>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

First for RTX 5070

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There's no such thing like: "I'm fully satisfied with my PC." You are always looking for something you could upgrade. There will be no stop, you will never be satisfied, there's gonna be always better hardware and you'll feel anger when said hardware performs better than your current one. PC building is suffering.

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>>106451403
>you'll feel anger
anon, I haven't felt anger in years
you cannot make me angry

Anything anons would do differently with this ultimate poorfag build (besides more expensive components)?
>AMD Ryzen 3 4100
>Gigabyte AMD A520M K
>2x8gb Lexar ARES 3600
>AMD RX 570 8gb

>>106451438
I'd just go bungee jumping with a rope around my neck then using that config.

>>106451438
buy a used steam deck and connect a monitor + kb/mouse to it through a dongle

>>106451474
Why's that?

>>106451492
Just kidding, if you don't have high standards it'll do the work.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/1lgzt4m/rightclicking_anything_anywhere_opens_amd/
>right clicking anywhere makes amd adrenalin open up
What the fuck are they doing over at amd? I had this issue for days until I had to look it up. Annoying as fuck

>>106451324
What is the temperature limit before damage occurs?

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>>106451639
The vrms overheat while the gpu is under load. The gpu and vram runs cool doe

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>>106451438
I have a similar-tier PC (i5 4440, 3x4GB DDR3, RX570) that I'm literally considering throwing away or giving up for free. Only the 570 8GB might be worth 50 euro or something, and I really can't be arsed trying to sell it.

/pcbg/ bwos can you suggest me a use case for that old bastard? Something with Linux? A server? NAS? Something even more schizo?

I've seen lots of suspicious Arctic fans around lately, mostly from China; How can i know i'm getting a real fan and not a fake? I can't buy it directly from Europe.

>>106451584
I've got an amd and never heard of this

Any reason to buy 9600x over 7600?(Prices are the same)
Are the temps gonna be much different with royal knight 120 cooler?
Like i was going for cpu+4060 asus evo because i only do 00s games anyway.
But rpc3 tier list got me confused, i thought 7600x-9600x-7600 is marginally same cpu?

https://old.reddit.com/r/rpcs3/comments/xsa09l/rpcs3_cpu_tier_list_updated_and_better_than_ever/

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>>106451324
is cyberpowerpc any good?
im too lazy to assemble my own parts, they seem like a good place with lots of good reviews
im picking the parts, they merely blob them together
anyone?

>>106451767
they are still considered to be in the same tier
9600x is probably slightly faster since it has some of the newer avx512 extensions not available in the 7600's avx512 implementation

>>106451799
Caught me, but I did them all.

>>106451799
You'll likely have to pay a very hefty lazy man tax to do that, if you absolutely must do a prebuilt, use pcpartpicker to make an equivalent build and see how much they are charging you for their building services

>>106451841
What about better chips or something like that?
Any info on this cooler contact on am5 socket? Would there be any gaps?

Should i buy separate 1TB nvm for windows only? What are the main benefits?

>>106451957
the benefit is you can reformat the drives separately

Gigabyte B850M AORUS ELITE WIFI6E ICE or MSI MAG B850M MORTAR WIFI? The cpu is 7500f, maybe in the future I'll put 7800x3d.

>>106451989
Whichever is cheaper and looks better to you. It’s a motherboard, if it has the IO you want, then get it unless you need some crazy good VRM for OC, which you fucking don’t.

>>106452002
Ah yes, the case is jonsbo z20, Gigabyte is cheaper but has only one 8pin for cpu, while msi has two 8 pin

>>106451957
this >>106451975
You don't have to hassle or worry about your data drive when reinstalling. I use three drives for two separate Windows installations and one for data.

>>106451888
that's kinda the point, they aren't.

>>106451918
just get whichever is cheaper, maybe paying not more than $20 more for the 9600x
an 8-core cpu will be better for rpcs3 but 9600x/7600 are fine if you have a strict budget
no idea about the royal knight 120

>>106452054
Unless you plan on overclocking a Ryzen 9, I wouldn’t care about having the supplemental 8-pin connector.

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>>106452123
Lmao, couldn't be further from the truth
Idle vs blender opendata bench
Heavier benchmark or workload will cause it to draw 50-100W more

9950x3d with pbo

>>106452180
Thanks for confirming my point?

>>106452089
nta but Cyberpower/IBuyPower are usually pretty low on the system integrator scale. They don't charge much because the assembly is done quickly and cheaply which naturally results in errors. Check out the Gamersnexus review videos to see if you can tolerate the level of craftsmanship.

My case fans revved up to 100% for a second or two and back down to normal whenever i was playing a video game or downloading one, after changing some of the settings its much better but i can still hear it happen a little bit. My question is if there is any danger in using a flat curve where for example they only ever go up to 60% under load?

>>106452371
try reducing it to 90% of current max rpm instead of being retarded

What's up with the PC consumer market?
There is 0 movement, prices are for the same components stay the same, even when new stuff is on the horizon.

Disgusting, especially the PSU and mainboard market.

>>106451657
Do you have cex in your country? They'll take the 570, cpu and ram off your hands and give you like $50 cash or $80 store credit.

>>106452400
what do you need to happen exactly?
things generally dont go down in price unless supply exceeds demand

>>106452400
Laptops have replaced low-mid range desktops, the price segment is dead.

>>106452371
Run flat curve until CPU hits 90C. The only times it will reach that is shader compilation and uncompressing pirated games.

>>106452400
Dram and SSD prices are going down since there's a oversupply plus that fear of dead chips from Nvidia/Windows.

>>106452268
Not very related, but there's some small system integrators here that sell full PCs for less than what it costs to buy the parts yourself. So I just buy it and rebuild to have the self-built experience and reuse my old quality PSU to replace the shitty $30 one they use.

>>106452371
Modern mobos have a feature to slow down the speed up/down of the fans.
On asus its called fan step up/down levels, so a short temperature spike wouldn't cause your fans to go into jet mode

>>106452435
Yeah if you're reasonably savvy with picking parts the small/local shops are often your best bet. The one near me would help part it out and charged a flat rate for assembly.

What are the quietest vertical mice that I can buy? I've become obsessed with silent builds lately and peripherals are one such thing that needs to be quieter. I hear the Logitech Lift might be but I haven't been able to test it.

>>106452471
logitech silent mouse or aliexpress special

I'm thinking about getting a new PC just to have a smaller footprint, am I retarded?

Thinking of getting a second monitor but I'm kind of unsure if I should be getting the exact same model to have matching colour tempts and whatnot or just getting something the same size and res but not necessarily the same specs (my current one is somewhat pricy)

>>106452652
Have your circumstances changed to where a smaller footprint is actually necessary? Like you've moved house or something?

>>106452652
isnt that the purpose of a phone or laptop?

>>106452659
Batch variation means even the same model won't have the exact same output. You'd need to match them with a colourimeter in which case matching models would make things easier but wouldn't be necessary.

damn its crazy how i gained 2k points in timespy cpu benchmark just by changing ram timings and doing curve optimizer

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>>106451324
Haha nvidio.

Completed it on Intel Arc.
Oblivion always was a bad game.

>>106452661
Not yet but will be and I still have an R5 tower under my desk.

>>106452670
Thinking about laptop too honestly.. all I do is work and LrC, some gaming from time to time.
If I give up gaming only LrC is my concern. Processing does take a while and it's somewhat laggy on my laptop.
Different laptop most likely no option because it's from work.

>>106452698
>FPS:26
>1080p
>likely using upscaling too
sad, just play the original. you get 8k 120fps on same rig.

>>106452400
In case of mobos, it's just because of MSI/Asus/Gigabyte "monopoly", at least in the west
they can do whatever they want and if you don't like it, the only thing you can do is to select another taiwanese jew, which does the same
We can hope that Sapphire boards will be available worldwide like the rumours say, and that Maxsun and Jginyue will keep making more boards, and also start doing the higher tier chipsets and more premium/advanced boards in general, instead of only basic stuff

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>>106452698
>1080p
>26 fps
checks out

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>>106452717
Yes, i completed original. Had ATI Radeon HD 3600 hhah.
>>106452745
>>106452758
Firstly i thought thats cpu bottleneck where a lot guards fight, but all screenshots has 26 fps. Must be reshade slowing down the game when taking screenshot.
It runs very bad around ~40 at medium. Xess Quality. Also stutters.

>>106452701
LrC?

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did I get some refurbished GPU? The outside box had 0 seals in it. These days even the shittiest electronics come with at least some tape seal on the box. At least the bag is properly sealed

Is the 5060ti 16gb a significant enough upgrade from the 2070 super?
I'm playing on 1440p. Cpu is 5700x3d with 32gb ram on a 650w psu.

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>>106452851
im pretty sure that's standard for gigabyte gpus. they don't even seal the 4090/5090s let alone the far cheaper 9060xt

>>106452864
Might as well waitfag for the 5070S.

>>106452851
nice feet

>>106452864
It's a little under the usual "2x upgrade threshold" but you could justify it if you particularly want RT or framegen. Otherwise I'd say save up for a 5070 (Super).

>>106452743
The motherboard cartel is artificial
There is something that prevents companies inside the mainland of China to really get good supply to make high end motherboards.
It's likely US sanctions in regards to high end computing where Z or X chipsets would be a part of that.

There are TONs of companies that otherwise have the full capability for ATX mobos, even high end ones, but no chipsets or even really permission from Intel/AMD.

These companies will literally make anything else from mini-PCs, mini-itx boards with current gen mobile chips or just straight up 10+ layer EATX boards with recycled server chipsets.
Whatever the real issue is, it's not a lack of capability

>>106451324
Just as I wrote in previous threads. VRM's temperature was extremely high.

>>106452940
the general theme with this generation of gpus is that they autistically cool the core to 50c but leave no cooling for memory or vrm.

>>106452940
But 4080 super owner said VRM temps dont matter and that Nvidia approved it

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>>106452972
Dude, my 3070ti has the same design and the same issue, couldn't handle even 200 watts of load. Well, it had before I installed full-cover water-block on it. Now it holds 300 watts.

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>>106452268
NTA but Gamersnexus reviews prebuilts, that anon is asking for a self-built assembled by a third party.

>>106452972
>>106452987
The issue is that PNY is using nvidia's reference board design and nvidia's reference boards tend to suck most of the time with few exceptions (1080ti)

>>106452982
>But 4080 super owner said VRM temps dont matter and that Nvidia approved it
It only happened to two PNY cards, but make a mountain out of a molehill.
Practically every reference tier 5090 would've caught on fire from blown capacitors if I were wrong.

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It's not even conclusive that inadequate cooling was the cause of those two capacitors blowing up.

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>>106452987
loving the dollar signs on the chokes

>>106452994
some of these third party nvidia cards look really cheap once you look at their pcb

>>106453017
Shut the fuck, shill. Higher temperature - higher resistance - more higher temperature - boom!

>>106453026
Only happened to PNY, two cases, two separate models.
Shut the fuck up retard. Let me know when this is happening to every GeForce partner's reference PCBs.

>>106452988
Yeah I was speaking more to the quality of assembly which is routinely mediocre (nothing dangerous though; just sloppy). I doubt Cyberpower uses different teams for user-selected and full prebuilt systems.

Looking for a 1080p VA monitor. No one really talks about them so i dont know whats good or not. I have found one so far.
>Samsung Odyssey G3 S24DG300
>BUDGET
100-200 dollars/euros
>COUNTRY
Sweden

>>106453037
Fucking dumb gorilla mongoloid. It doesn't cancel anything I wrote.

>>106453024
most of them are cheap junk. the only good ones i see are the overpriced gpus like the suprim, astral and aorus master. you really get what you pay for with regards to vrm quality

>>106453024
>some of these third party nvidia cards look really cheap once you look at their pcb
Because they are. Nfartia uses the cheapest components they can find.

>>106453050
You're making a blanket assumption that the reference design is flawed when the damage is limited to two RTX 50 cards (different tiers of cards) assembled by the same manufacturer.
You are retarded.

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>>106453069
don't forget the 5090 solid that burned for 10 seconds too

Going to need that rumored 9950 x3d2 soonish, AMD.

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>>106453069
Dumb gorilla mongoloid, I didn't ask your shitty inferior opinion on things you don't understand. Get lost.

>>106453069
You're more upset that this looks bad than the fact people got cards that blew up.
Most pathetic /pcbg/ poster

>>106453073
>A single Zotac card
>Problem hasn't been reproduced
Yes, let's all start freaking out because a single Zotac 5090 crapped out.

>>106453083
Zotac only uses reference pcbs

>>106453083
People make a big deal out of every card because it's such a pain in the ass to get an RMA from the companies you love so much.
You won't ever acknowledge that tho

>>106453078
>>106453076
PNY and Zotac are responsible for their shitty assembly, which appears to be limited to three total reports in about 8 months.
Let me know when this is a widespread issue. Then we can start pointing fingers at the reference requirements.

>>106453097
>RMA from the companies
I don't love NVIDIA, PNY, or Zotac.
If NVIDIA's board reference design has flaws, why were these cases limited to PNY & Zotac?
Everyone knows the 12V-2x6 connector isn't safe enough because it's melting across a variety of cards at a much larger scale.
Including Radeon 9070 XTs.

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>>106453098
You have a point. The next few months will be interesting to experience, if igor is right

>>106453090
MSI Ventus and Gigabyte Windforce also use reference-grade PCBs.
No reports of their RTX 50 cards crapping out.
But let's just make blanket statements saying the reference design is bad because two board vendors fucked up for a total of three reported cases (with no product recalls).

>>106453111
>I don't love NVIDIA, PNY, or Zotac
You sure do alot to make it out like there should be no worries or questions and we all should just continue to buy.
This "correct the record" shit just makes you look like a shill

>>106453114
RTX 50 cards have already been out for about 7~8 months.
If the reference designs are inadequately cooling the board components, there'd be far higher failure rates for the 5090s running near 600W.

>>106453120
The reference design is clearly bad if its hotspotting at 107C. However another issue is that PNY doesn't have a conductive metal backplate and thermal pads to keep that area in check

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I swear God, trannies from Nfartia knew about this problem. But still they didn't design a gap between capacitors and mosfets. It is obviously a planned obsolescence.

>>106453129
That finding is only true for the pny rtx5070 though

>>106453125
>and we all should just continue to buy.
I didn't tell anyone to buy PNY cards since that issue was reported, Zotac cards are overpriced to begin wth.

>This "correct the record" shit
>'Just let the general be a brand warring shitfest'

>>106453136
Where's the MSI Ventus, Gigabyte Windforce, Zotac Solid 5070 reference cards that are dealing with blown capacitor issues?

>>106453136
It is true for every card with shitty coolers like pny has. Heat from vrm doesn't dissipate at all.

>>106453149
Why of all things, are you defending nvidia's reference board design? Are you a literal nvidia reference board fanboy?

>>106453139
You downplaying it is telling people to buy.
If you dont want people to buy PNY or Zotac then say it's an issue and dont buy until they correct the 100C+ components.
I know it really hurts to say that because the scared Nvidia thermal design guidelines but to downplay it is advocating going backwards and won't get you any favors here.

>>106453160
This is about sharing accurate information, not about taking sides.
If the capacitors in a 5070 are blowing up across all AIB cards, then there are obviously issues with the reference design.
The problem is limited to two PNY and 1 Zotac card atm.

It's very easy to realize the 12V-2x6 connector isn't safe enough because they're melting across all NVIDIA & some Radeon cards.

>>106453172
>until they correct the 100C+ components.
You need to prove that's the root cause of capacitors blowing up on those 2 PNY cards.
You don't think some of the Ventus 5070's capacitors aren't running at those temperatures?

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Just look at this contact spot of vrm... It is not connected to heat-pipes AT ALL.
Chinks are at it again.

>>106453184
>>106453201
You are making a lot of assumptions in your comments. The article in the OP has a lot more context that points to it being a PNY issue. The use of specific capacitors, lack of cooling and silence after being contacted are all important to consider.

>>106451657
>NAS
could work for a light nas, sure
enter the selfhost autism, anon

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>>106453135
>didn't design a gap between capacitors and mosfets.
That's the standard way of setting up the VRM.

>>106451324
in germany. whats the cheapest build that can compare with the UM890? preferably id like some no-RGB small form factor office surplus thing that i can just slot extra RAM and a GPU into. but if thats no longer meta then ill build it myself.

just needs to be small-ish, no rgb, ddr 5 capable, and an onboard gpu so i dont have to run the GPU to shitpost or watch animu

https://www.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-um890-pro
here the specs of what i want to match with as little money as possible:
AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS
AMD Radeon 780M

>>106453210
You're assuming Igor's analysis identified the root cause, but this issue is limited to two PNY cards and a Zotac.
Funny how it only affected 0.00001% of RTX 50 cards manufactured if it's the reference board & cooling requirements are underspecced.

>>106453215
You literally posted opposite thing lol. Don't you see a gap in your picture? Induction coil plays his role and made of copper wire which withstands high temperatures unlike capacitors.

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>>106453204
damn thats wild

>>106453228
I mean sure, if you consider 107C power planes to be common and normal. As with all heat related damage, the bulk of the failures will start happening after a long while. Maybe within a couple months before warranty expires in this case.

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>>106453231
It's the same fucking layout you retard.

>>106453247
Where are all the dead 3080/Ti and 3090 from even worse PCB cooling? These had thinner heatsinks and smaller fans.

>>106453257
Do you have proof that they have similarly hot power planes?

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>>106453260
>Draws more power
>Has a more restrictive PCB area
Let's see all these dead RTX 30 cards.

>>106453248
Are you fucking blind or mentally disabled, dumb mongoloid gorilla?

>>106453272
Power plane hotspotting is not about total power drawn. its about high resistance from improperly sized copper interconnects within the PCB. you can avoid hotspotting if you use thicker, wider traces in the PCB.
You are assuming high powered gpus always have crazy hot power planes which isn't the case.

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>>106453272
>>106453248
>>106453215
>>106453024
its crazy that these chips of sand can render this

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>>106453280
It's the same VRM layout you shithead.
Educate yourself.

>>106453296
thats not how asses jiggle

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Fucking mongoloid, take your god damned medication.

>>106453294
>improperly sized copper interconnects within the PCB
Yet it's affected only three cards and two board manufacturers.

>>106453307
like you'd know lmaoooo

>>106453312
Back to that again? Lmao. Keep your eyes peeled for the next 2 years then

>>106453309
There's actually a bigger gap between the capacitor & mosfets on the Ventus PCB.
Stop being retarded.

>>106453317
>Back to that again?
Back to the facts, not the speculation you're pandering.

>Keep your eyes peeled for the next 2 years then
Don't have to wait that long, RTX 40 PCBs are also running just fine.
Do you think PNY or anyone else made drastic changes to the 5070 & 4070/Super board design?

>>106453334
I remember when rtx4000 gpus didn't have popcorning capacitors, yes

>>106453348
PNY's using the same capacitor for the 5070/Ti as they did for the 4070/Ti/Super.
No need to wait.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pny-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-verto-oc/images/front.jpg

>>106453215
I still dont get why we has this big amount of phases. Its terrible innefective design. GPU should supplied differently. By big massive mosfets BMM! And few big capacitors.

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Day 6 (I think right) FAFO'ing with G80SD updates

>Come home turn on G80SD and get disconnect (together with sound muting after 11-12 minutes of on time)
>black screening meme of the G80SD deffo a real thing

>As I have come to the conclusion pixel fringing is definitely the issue with focusing eyes on qdoled panel

>WOLED might have a easier on the eyes subpixel structure (Tfw I should have gotten the C4 42" cheap after all) or the LG 32"
>Might cope and go back to LCD after all

any more questions before it's all over? I got like 40 more days left on my return window but I feel like I'm about done after less than a week already

tldr It's over, LG WOLED and/or LCD won on the desktop, Samsung lost, wait for 400ppi panels to solve pixelfringing I guess

>>106453400
More phase is good, it puts less stress on each power stage.

>>106453402
>wait for 400ppi panels to solve pixelfringing I guess
You can wait for OLED monitors with a plain RGB subpixel layout.
TCL CSOT's been demoing it in trade shows & LG Display's working on it.

>>106453452
that will be a no brainer buy
what is strange is I used the oled amoled screens on phones when they first came out and the ppi was genuinely atrocious dog shit and look a million times worst, but even though you could see the pixelation and that it looked like shit, it never gave this "out of focus" feel that qdoled gives
either my eyes were prestine back then and now I have aged or it's something else

>>106453383
Missing the point on purpose? Not a single one of them popped over 3 years.

Retard-level question because I haven't built a PC since like 2011:
Let's say I buy this card https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gCBG3C/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-pg-24go that has no usb-c ports.
Let's say I have a monitor with a built-in usb-c hub and a motherboard with usb-c, if I plug the monitor into the motherboard's usb-c port, will the GPU still be able to drive that monitor?

>>106453484
So the reference design is fine. It's using the same rated capacitors as the one that popped on the single 5070.
Far more likely to be caused by a single dud capacitor that wasn't picked up during QC.

>>106453402
I wonder why the triangle sub pixels is such a problem, or woleds style
like, why would rgb strip be somehow better, why doesnt that have color fringing?

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>>106453491
Yeah the 4070ti super reference pcb is fine
The pny 5070's clearly isn't
>Far more likely to be caused by a single dud capacitor that wasn't picked up during QC.
Two capacitors you mean

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ram and ssd prices went up across the board

>>106452833
Lightroom Classic

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>>106453546
The caps have the same specs.
The reference specs are fine. Whatever capacitor PNY sourced for the 5070 had QC issues.

>>106453490
Depends on what exactly that USB-C is doing. If it's actually just a hub - for data/peripherals - then it'll work fine. If the monitor uses USB-C for video then obviously the card won't be able to drive it (without hacks). It could, of course, function as both video and hub with software control i.e. USB for data plus DP/HDMI for video. Should all be in the monitor's manual.

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>>106453581
4070ti super pcb isn't even the same as the 5070. You're doing some false equivalence bs on a basket weaving forum to explain away two very odd happenings that never happen outside of the capacitor plague (caps exploding and/or flying off)
>same specs
And tell me what the caps are installed onto?

>>106453594
Gotcha, was mostly hoping to be able to drive the monitor + peripherals with one cable, same as what works on a laptop.

>>106453602
You're the retard who's assuming NVIDIA and their board partners would waste money drastically changing the reference PCB design instead of continuing with a settled design for cards that draw less than 300W of power.
Some XOCers were even implanting a 4090 GPU to a 3090 Ti board to get more power draw out of the 8pin connectors.

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Was the 1TB Samsung 980 I got for 50 euro back in August 2023 an insane once-in-a-lifetime deal or what? It's so much more expensive now despite being superseded by the 990 series.

>>106453574
Thanks. I guess if you have an older system you could convert to SFF on the "cheap" with a used ITX board and a case that'll let you reuse your PSU+card. I still don't think it'd be a great idea unless you're moving in to a real shoebox. An R5 isn't /that/ big of a case so you can probably find a way to fit it in without spending $200 on a conversion. Of course if the PC is as old as the case (2013?) then you might be due an upgrade anyway. In which case, sure, just build a new SFF rig.

>>106453651
no one should buy 1tb drives and 2tb ones arent much above 120€ these days unless you want premium brands
So you maybe saved like 20€ one sale and still remember that years later which is kinda pathetic

>>106453630
Use your eyes >>106453546 >>106453602
The vram, memory vrms and voltage controller aren't even in the same location. This is just the components that are on the surface, you have no idea how they have moved the traces within the PCB itself.
>Some XOCers were even implanting a 4090 GPU to a 3090 Ti board to get more power draw out of the 8pin connectors.
Irrelevant to the discussion at hand at best, another bad faith false equivalence at worst.

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>>106453676
>false equivalence
You're the shithead concluding the board design is flawed from an issue that is isolated to two AIBs.
Keep waiting for something that will never happen, just like the "inadequately cooled" VRAM (which runs hotter on current Radeon cards).

>>106453696
Hey at least I'm not the guy defending nvidia's reference PCB within even knowing what a power plane is
>financials
Don't care

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>>106453723
Are you also waiting for 7900 XT & 6800 XT capacitors to all pop off?
Follow your own advice regarding your false equivalence bullshit.

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>>106453607
Check the mobo manual. It might still be possible but needs configuration (and Thunderbolt support). IMO such a setup is more trouble than it's worth on the desktop but I understand some might need it.

>>106453673
it was ~120 euro for the 1TB at launch, then I got it at 50, and now it's up to sort of 90-100 in my cuntry

>>106453753
just go to amazon de and you have plenty 120€ 2tb options
surely you're not limited to only local stores

>>106453768
>amazon de
damn they actually do free deliveries to my shithole, that's kinda crazy

>>106453723
>>financials
>Don't care
It shows the scale of how many GPUs NVIDIA shipped in a single quarter; there would be far more reference-grade RTX 50 cards with blown capacitors if it were a design/specification issue.

>knowing what a power plane is
Clearly doesn't mean much when you're jumping to conclusions over an isolated incident.

>>106453779
to be fair even temu has free deliveries for orders over 25€ while most of their junk is low margin plastic trash

>>106453734
I have an nvidia rtx5000 card nigga
>>106453783
I think you're subscribing a little too much to the normalcy bias

>>106453794
I know about chinkware sites, of course, I just ordered 3 USB cables from Aliexpress for 10 euro and free shipping. I assumed Amazon.de would be DAS DELIVERIE IST KAPUTT or whatever and charge me like 20 bucks to deliver to this god forsaken wasteland.

>>106453823
given how much you hate your homeland Im guessing its romania

>>106453831
Even worse, Bulgaria. I've been to Romania on a short trip to Bucharest and it's so much better over there it's unreal (except the roads around the Danube those are somehow worse than ours).
Either way thanks for bringing the Amazon situation to my attention.

>>106453813
>I have an nvidia rtx5000 card nigga
Doesn't excuse your retarded "false equivalency" that a video card's inadequate reference design is the root cause of capacitor damage.

>I think you're subscribing a little too much to the normalcy bias
The three affected cards are worth less than $5,000 combined, which is less than 0.0001% of NVIDIA's gaming revenue for the past quarter.

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>>106453848
economy is doing great
low unemployment
easy access to black sea for holiday trips
moderate climate

most would be happy to live there

>>106453863
None of what you're saying makes sense now
Are you chatgpt?

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>>106453871
Anon, I just started my first post-Uni (masters degree btw) job and I earn 750 euro a month as a software engineer in a Fire Alarm production company. If that's not a sign of a pathetic economy idk what is.

>>106453885
> 1st job
> 750 eurobux
I assume it's post-tax? If your costs of living aren't high, that's a perfectly fine salary for your first job.

>>106453920
>post-tax
Mostly, I get 100 of those as a food-only debit card, but come on, we all eat at least 100 euro of food per month.
>living expenses
I pay 100 bucks to my family for letting me squat in the same room I've been in since 2012, covers the electricity, water, any family dinners I eat with them, etc. otherwise I can spend whatever I want on fuel, diesel, phone bill (10 euro a month kek), electronics...
It's not strictly speaking bad, it's just sub-par when looking at Le West and their fat stacks of cash, especially 'Murica.

>>106453920
East europe is still suffering from soviet union and history of authoritarian communism

I guess theres no generational wealth sloshing around and since the older generations are so poor it impacts peoples mental state, like they have to support the impoverished elderly while if they lived in usa they would be rich boomers who support their children and grandchildren.

>>106453402
WOLED has worse text fringing

>>106452101
I'm not a strict budget per say i just don't want to do water cooling.
Will 7700\x boost emulation? I thought they care more about single core.
Will i be able to cool it with rk120?

>>106453952
>>106453885
damn thats crazy, I barely earn 650 usd a month (converted from my currency and post taxes) as a cleaning services supervisor (government job that my dad passed down to me through a goverment program). I literally only work on weekends for 3 hours at most and have insurance and a savings account. I also live with my parents but I pay electricity, water and internet which is 40 bucks a month, gas and groceries are covered by them cause they are saints like that. I also dont even need a car, my workplace is a 15 min walk.
The fact that a third world loser like me makes almost the same money as a masters degree graduate from europe, with more benefits and more opportunities to save money is beyond fucked, your economy is shit or software engineering is a complete meme.

>>106454121
dude, communism, lmao

>>106454121
Honestly, I'm still on a 6 month trial period, and my pay might jump up afterwards. I expect around a 20-30% increase when I get hired as a proper worker.
It's a way better standard of living than I had during my 5 years as a student who refuses to work and study at the same time kek. I survived on the cheapest food I could find, lived in cockroach infested dorms, and walked 30 min (2.5km) to university to not spend 1 euro on a bus ticket.

>>106451324
meme. Pny 5070 is probably one of the best selling version of any gpu, wake me up when 6 gorillion have failed.

>>106453402
Thanks for posting, I half followed from the beginning

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>>106453651
>Was the 1TB Samsung 980 I got for 50 euro back in August 2023 an insane once-in-a-lifetime deal or what?
Pretty much, those prices won't come back.
https://www.techpowerup.com/308423/phison-boss-wary-of-nand-industry-weaknesses

>>106454188
its barely better than dell gpu

>>106454325
Dell gpus were pny (I think)
Most of the dell gpus are also decent too.
>>106451324
>>106451646
Would the Epic X 5070 potentially be the same or it just the regular pny models(so a 2 and a 3 fan + oc of both)?

Never trust bald people telling you tech stuff.

>>106453654
From 2017 actually but upgraded multiple times (God bless AM4):
>5700X3D
>32GB
>4070S
Performance-wise I'm satisfied but the case is big and evel has a dvd drive lol...
Also want to switch screens from 2x27" 1440p to a single (ultra)wide curved 34-38" 1440p/4k screen.
I think it's easier to sell my system as is and build something small from scratch than taking everything apart, switching some components and then selling off the rest for scraps.

>>106453314
your mom throws it back like a champ (;

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>>106453517
>I wonder why the triangle sub pixels is such a problem
it creates a "3D"/color vibration/chromatic aberration like effect on all objects, it's pretty strange
>or woleds style
woled have a more regular rectangle like subpixels stacked in a row like regular rgb even if they have an added white subpixel, the fringing caused is another type
>like, why would rgb strip be somehow better, why doesnt that have color fringing?
it has red fringing on left side and blue on right side if you can call it that, idk, but it looks normal
due to how windows handles it

>>106453964
some people say it's easier on eyes than qdoled, can't confirm I have not used one enough to tell
I can't imagine it being worse than qdoled at this point

>>106454288
I also tried the glossy philips evnia 32m2n8900 late last year but I have schizo rambled enough about firmware on that part
I think the matte coating lowers the perceived fringing a bit which is quite noticeable which rtings also support which I def notice but it's still not good, the difference is glossy qdoled will sear your eyes due it being extremely pronounced, matte will kind of make it slightly more tolerable
either that or different panel processing

>>106454361
PNY didn't make a dual-fan 5070.
The board is probably the same as the base MSRP model.
The Epic X is just an ARGB variant of the reference card.
https://www.pny.com/geforce-rtx-5070-models?sku=VCG507012TFXPB1

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>>106453309
kek, that AMD troons never learn do they?

Tell me again which AMD card out performs the LAST generation Nvidia card?

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>>106451324
anyone here use mini-pcs? how do they perform in your opinion regarding productivity? going to buy these for my parents if I don't have to upgrade every couple of years

>>106454421
Well, I can't complain about yours either. Posted this from your mom's bed ;))))

>>106454454
I had 3 NUCs, they are basically notebook hardware and can be quite quick for general use. I just loved how you can put them on a VESA monitor and just pretend you have an AIO PC.

>>106451767
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/6199vs5172/AMD-Ryzen-5-9600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-7600

14% single thread IPC difference.
10% multi thread difference
more L1 cache

>>106454173
>might
I hope you dont get fucked by HR
I also started this job just this January, and my salary will increase in the next 2 years. Best of luck to you euroanon

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>QDOLED cooks eyes
>Yep, I guess it's time to buy a LG 45GX950A-B

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>>106454434
Why would they include a higher boost clock if they didn't change anything other than the gay lighting?

>>106454422
NTA but is there any decent choices that are not OLED? If the monitor fails at text reproduction, which is it's primary function, even if ever so slightly, then it's useless to me.

>>106454468
can these mini-pc's handle multiple trading apps like thinkorswim on potentially 3 monitors at 4k? I think my mom will be fine with a normal one... or just a tablet lol

>>106454454
I had one for a few weeks just for Plex but moved to a proper desktop

pros
>cheap as fuck
>relatively good performance
>low power usage

cons
>still slow

personally I'd just buy an older Dell/HP/Lenovo mini pc. you can get old i5 8500 Optiplex pcs for sub $100. install some remote access software and it'll be great. you can theoretically get a higher end mini pc which will have good performance, but at that point you're kinda defeating the purpose of a cheap pc

>>106454484
I mean any high ppi lcd?
27" 4k 160hz ips is cheap now

>>106454486
not sure what that is, but 3x4k would be a bit too much on the iGPU. I think 1x4k is no problem, but notebook CPUs aren't that tough as desktop CPUs.

>>106454510
Let me rephrase: >34" curved. Standard 27" there's tons of options, of course.

>>106454454

I admin around 100 of these or more. A lot of them still run an 8th gen i3 and they are still entirely fine for what your parents would use, mainly web browsing, youtube, emails and office. Avoid Gigabyte BRIX since they seem to break so often, but the Intel/ASUS made NUC's are great little things that seem to run forever.

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>>106451324
Took forever to troubleshoot the perc card. Had to throw it in legacy roms or legacy boot. Then, it would boot into windows without turning all legacy features off. But I now have a triple tesla p40 with a fan mod from 3 gtx 1070s and 256gb of ddr4 ram and twin xeon 5 something somethings v3s. With an attached 60tb raid 5 MD1200. Its honestly supper quite to the point I may add a second since I have three and can't seem to sell them.

>>106454413
Were it me I'd just deal with the big case until it's time for an upgrade. Buy a little stand and put it under the desk or something.

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>>106454535
>I admin around 100 of these or more.
holy shit I know you!

>>106454541
what the fuck is this machine aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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>>106454482
NVIDIA's official boost clock specs are conservatively set.
Base MSRP 5070 coolers are enough to sustain above 2700MHz boost clock @ stock settings.
Official boost spec for the 5070 FE is 2512 MHz for reference.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-founders-edition/44.html

>>106454526
lg used to make ultra wide ips like that
I have no idea outside of gaymen monitors
I don't really look at ultrawides either
you can also go samsung dual 4k ultrawide but it's probably buggy and shit in various ways
samsung products are always buggy it seem

tldr idk

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Yeah, I think I'll pull the trigger and get an X3D chip, because I have nothing better to spend my fucking money on.

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>>106451324
homies, I need your'a help. I need to buy a second monitor and I want it to be my main
these characteristics sorted by most relevant first
- minimal/no burn-in
- 4k
- excelent colors, contrast, brightness and dark levels
- aspect ratio to be very huge as to allow me 2 programming editors, aka I want it to be with good weight AND height

What do I have to spend to make this real? Use cases are programming first (thus the aspect ratio) and watching blueray pirated movies second
Ideally I'd spend treefiddy€, but I'm willing to spend 700€, hard to spend more than that I'd feel I'm being robbed

I'm looking at 21:9/32:9 monitors, 175hz or more, and there's not a single IPS anymore???
I have an ultrawide 200hz IPS monitor, but they just don't make these anymore.
What the fuck

>>106454603
*good width and height

>>106454595
What job do you have that forces you to spend money? What's your current CPU?

>>106454454
I have a thinkcenter nuc and that can run solid works wo crashing. I guess your parents will be fine with a second hand one

>>106454621
I'm the IT guy. I do IT stuff n' sheet. Currently I have a 7600X, but I can sell it for full price and looking for alternatives / upgrades.

>>106454656
What games do you play? Does it get very hot?

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High End GPUs are a scam. 5080 is the biggest example.

>>106454656
Somehow I knew it'd be related to IT. I should also get into IT.

>>106454663
BF4, BF5, Warzone.
I run it at -20 and the TDP is 65W locked, doesn't really reach 70C that way.
>>106454674
It's not fun, but pays ok.

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>>106454595
>I have nothing better to spend my fucking money on.
cocaine and hookers

>>106454582
>used to
seems so, emphasis on past tense..
>samsung products are always buggy it seem
kek true, i rather blind buy xiaomi than samshit, at least that stuff is cheap

>>106454733
>cocaine and hookers
>cocaine
that's not even evil, plain retarded, you better have an income 2 or 3 times 5k$ a month (considering the price of cocaine to be 60$ per gram) or the cocaine will eat you a live and will easily and quickly make you homeless
>hookers
meh, they better be real hookers, I'm not even attracted to hookers because I can clearly see that they despise me and my hard earned money

>>106454550
Maybe I really do this and hold out until AM6 since I'll move then again anyway...

>>106454595
I don't have anything else to spend money on over but I've been looking at the 7800x3d sitting on my table still in its packaging, replacing my 7600 that im going to trade in for $110, and the 240mm aio that came with it that I can sell for an additional $50. I'm wondering if I shouldn't just keep my 7600 because I built this PC with budget in mind. But I'm helping a coworker build a PC and seeing his 7800x3d made me compulsivity get one too

>>106454121
what country though?

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>>106454768
you passed the test, you will remain in God's light, go ahead and consoom 9800X3D

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bros I think my GPU is using my SSD as a heatsink and frying it alive... the GPU itself is at ~55C (non-demanding game) and yet the SSD is reaching into the 80's in temps
Samsung Magician only reports the lower of these two temps for some reason. Should I worry?

>selected for Steam hardware survey this month
I'm just another statistics...

>>106454876
that wasn't even me, but I'll let my homie know
>>106454733

>>106454958
* my homie know
>>106454595

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>>106454565
It's a lion, and you look like a small dog to it. Shhh.

>>106454949
where is the physical SSD? next to a hot component? you can move it around your rig wherever you want you know?

>>106454949
Enable ASPM in your BIOS and OS

DLSS 4 is so damn good man. I used to play cod on console in the 120hz mode and while it looked fine, even dlss 4 ultra performance on a 4k TV looks better than whatever upscaling the consoles use. And I'm getting 40+ more fps.

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>>106454970
red is the SSD; green GPU, blue CPU cooler

>>106451438
Nearly any one of AMD's modern apu models will outperform that 570. So you should be able to find a minipc for under $300 that will do better than that config.

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Never thought there would be such a disparity still between fans.

>>106453735
Gotcha. The main reason I want it is because I want to use my existing setup (monitor + kb + mouse) with my work laptop and my soon-to-be-built workstation, and ideally just swap one usb-c cable like I do with my personal laptop.

Seems that Thunderbolt passthrough for the gpu may need an extra card like this
https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/accessories/thunderboltex-5/
or some motherboards may support it built-in.

I will look into it more, thanks!

>>106454854
latin america, that's all im willing to dox

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>>106455127
>>106453735
It seems that https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mFFmP6/asus-proart-x870e-creator-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-proart-x870e-creator-wifi has displayport in, so that should be able to route it to USB C.

>>106455116
if you are gonna a spend 30+ bucks for 1 fan they might as well be noctua

>>106455145
>dox
that sounds retarded as fuck

I'd guess brazil but 40 bucks for water, energy, and internet doesn't seem normal, maybe 70 bucks, and if you were in brazil working for the government you wouldn't worry about "doxing" on a 4chan post

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>>106454603
>>106454614
ping

>https://www.sonnetstore.com/collections/thunderbolt-docks/products/echo-11-thunderbolt-4-dock
219€ new, 100€ used. Thunderbolt 4
>https://eu.ugreen.com/products/revodok-max-2131-thunderbolt-5-docking-station-8k60hz-140w
299€ new, N/A used. Thunderbolt 5
>https://eu.ugreen.com/products/copy-of-weekly-sale-product-9-in-1-usb-c-docking-station
120€ new, 50€ used. No Thunderbolt

Considering my gf is Apple only and we share hardware, what would you pick?
Is Thunderbolt required? Will it cause issues with my AMD laptop?

>>106454733
I'd spend it on anime girl hookers though, but they are not real... :(

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>>106455303
>but they are not real
wrong
>animegao kigurumi
just googled it, chances are there are some high end versions of this
regardless, I'd go for the gf/fuckbuddy route, aka psyops a woman into being your fuckmate, and slowly twist and turn her into fulfilling your irl fetishes with anime, if the mask is too weird, you can go the cosplay route

>>106454733
>hookers
this isnt the 90s anymore
you go on Twitter and get an escort that is at minimum std free or hire a pornstar from a verified website

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>>106455381
>animegao kigurumi

>>106455381
>>106455303
>we need to go deeper
I see I see how it goes, you basically pay a top-tier 3d modeler into making one model of your favourite waifu's head, it must be designed to wear different wigs to adjust for hair variations
that 3d model 3d printed, has integrated servo/robot eyes that reflect the roastie's movements and gestures, expressions, micro expressions, blinking and all kind of awe, fear, horniness, extasi eye expressions
the mouth area should be more mechanic or even use the real mouth

I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole, but it's your fetish

>>106455381
>cosplay route
Women that love you will dress up as anything for you.
>t. fucked my girlfriend in a maid outfit and her actual school girl outfit

>>106455453
you lucky basterd, have scored one with maid outfit as well, shit's cash

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>>106455453
this is 100% correct. Just be Chad (to her) is law.

Also temps on the mini case are holding okay.

>>106455453
t. anon who lies on the internet

>>106454993
thats an m.2 not an ssd. Also did you install the heatsync on it or not? did your mobo come with one? did you remove the plastic cover on the heatsync if there is one before installing it?

They do tend to get hot at times during heavy workflows btw.

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>>106455677
>thats an m.2 not an ssd

>>106455687
baito desu

>>106455687
dont fucking abuse semantics with me anon. m.2 is the common vernacular for a stick ssd, and SSD is the common vernacular for the external sata flash memory drive.

>>106455721
Not even him. SSD is a solid state drive vs a hard drive. M2 is a form factor of SSD.

>>106454949
>>106454993
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/990-evo-reporting-90c-temps.329517/

>>106455677
>heatsinc
no
>come with one
no idea
>installing it
It was assembled for me on custom order. I picked and bought the parts and had the store assemble them for me.
>>106455746
Samsung Magician is NOT reporting the high temps though, just HWMonitor. Magician gives me the lower of the 2 numbers, which caps out at 80C during a stress test I did, and tells me the drive is perfectly healthy and in normal temps. SURELY Magician knows better than third party slopware?

I was convinced to get a miniLED until I went to my grandma. She loves to watch TV and bought a new 4k OLED. I was blown away by the quality.... Now I'm not so sure anymore

>>106455765
>Samsung Magician is NOT reporting the high temps though
Samsung is reporting one of the temperature probes on the drive. HWiNFO reports all three. It's probably the controller, as stated in the TPU forum link. Try using a heatsink, or if you have one make sure it's fully in contact with the chips on the drive.

>>106455794
I can't open the PC or the warranty is void. Guess I'll live with it...

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>>106455721
retard

New AMD drivers doko?

>>106455808
U wot m8

>>106455765
>Samsung Magician is NOT reporting the high temps though,
Modern SSDs have multiple temp sensors, what's going to be reported is the "composite" temp on any software that can read drive temps.
The composite temp could be anything, it could be an average of all temp sensors, or just a specific one or it could be based on an algorithm where each sensor is weighted.

Hwinfo can read all of them and the hottest is usually the controller, could also be the PMIC.
I wouldn't necessarily worry about it.

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>>106454614
ping II, bls h4lp

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>>106455808
Call the store and set up an appointment to install an M.2 heatsink for the drive, it should take less than 5 minutes.

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>>106455841
I'm not sending my whole ass PC over courier to the other side of the country for a heatsink. If the SSD breaks I'll just send it then for warranty.
Keep in mind an average consumer wouldn't have even noticed this. Hell, I didn't know storage could get hot until recently. I assumed only processing units (CPU, GPU, chipset, etc.) could get hot.

>>106455816
>driver
9950x3d2 doko

>>106455860
Hey dipshit, if electricity goes through it it gets hot.

>>106455834
typically people buy 32" 4k ips gaming monitors for programming, but they dont have the contrast you wish for. They'll have gray blacks.

Then oled monitors will burn in.
I guess that leaves VA monitors. Check out samsung neo g7. It has minileds so you can even use it for watching hdr movies.

>>106451639
General rule of thumb if you don't know the specification for the chip in question, is to keep it under 75 degrees C. Yes some can tolerate more heat but 75 C is a good common denominator.

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>>106451767
hell no
there's never a reason to buy a non-x3d 9000 GPU

Zen5% was the worst selling launch in AMD until 9800X3D for good reason.

>>106455912
>dont buy a gpu
>why?
>its not popular enough

uhhhh

>>106453557
prove it

>>106452745
I had a 7900GS and thought I got more than 22 fps. I even played at 1680x1050, not 1280x1024.
It was a Core 2 Duo 2.13GHz with 2GB DDR2 @ 667MHz.

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>>106455898
bless you anon, a million thanks

>>106455765
>>heatsinc
>no
>>come with one
>no idea
there's your problem, figure this out. Take a photo, you can probably source an aftermarket heatsync if you really dont actually have one on the m.2.

Its entirely possible the lazy pajeet who assembled your poverty rig didn't bother to remove the plastic cover, in which case you got alot of careful cleaning ahead of you.

>>106455917
>gpu
illiterate zoomzoom go bother someone else don't @ me again

>>106455912
>there's never a reason to buy a non-x3d 9000 GPU
The X3D cache only matters in limited circumstances. It isn't worth the massive markup for 90% of the people that buy it.

>>106455940
why do you feel you're qualified to inform other people what pc parts they oughta buy

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>>106455962
this guy is literally userbenchmark
>this cpu has hugely higher marketshare so it gets more points

christ.

Zen5% flopped lmao

>>106455962
techtuber propaganda works

>>106455962
And only a few percent of those would notice if they had a 9700X swapped into their system.

>>106455976
maybe you should work on your literacy before commenting anon. Its a pie-chart of sales distribution, use your eyes.

>>106455984
I blame Njudea and AMD equally, both of them have jacked up the prices of gpus to absurd levels, which is causing the entire gaming pc industry to be hamstrung by high entry-costs and dogshit entry-level gpus.

I pray Intel-avivs next gpu generation is more competitive on both perf and price.

Explain why the 9800X3D sells 9:1 the rest of zen5 combined

>>106455984
>Intel: $ 24.35
>AMD: $ 162.63

>>106453307
I did see one ass jiggle like that before. It was this 50+ year old male pornstar from facialabuse.com and ghettogaggers.com. It was pretty gross ngl

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>>106455995
its based on 1 shops data for january 2025
its not global sales, its not lifetime sales in that shop, its not accurate now since prices have dropped for the unpopular parts, other x3d cpus were more performant, people were on am4 etc.

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>>106455995
marketing

>>106455995
the price-performance was way beyond the other ones in the range, it came out early, and the gains were insane. People bought it to future-proof their rigs.

>>106455995
"world's fastest gaming CPU" is a strong marketing title

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>>106451324
So which is it? Would I get the 5070 or the 4070? Am I retarded?

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>>106456051
>the price-performance was way beyond the other ones in the range
You're right. It's really expensive for what you get.
>the gains were insane
About 12% uplift from the 9700X at 1080p isn't bad. But you pay a lot for the privilege. And the lead all but disappears once you're at 4K.

>>106456073
5070 can be significantly faster than a 4070, most common comparison would be the 4070 super, could also be compared to the 3090, 3090ti, or 4070ti depending on game.
In general there's not much reason to buy 4000 series unless you find a local deal.

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>>106455898
>>106454603
>>106454614
I've found some interesting shit
https://www.amazon.es/s?k=monitor&i=computers&rh=n%3A667049031%2Cp_36%3A15000-100000%2Cp_n_g-101015533976111%3A100623689031%2Cp_n_g-1001663142111%3A27390524031%2Cp_123%3A195698%257C46655%257C46658%2Cp_n_g-1004220642091%3A13051396031%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A15144009031%2Cp_n_g-101015537898111%3A100630776031&s=price-desc-rank&dc&__mk_es_ES=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=26UW7HSCQTT3V&qid=1756759777&rnid=100630725031&sprefix=monitor%2Caps%2C99&ref=sr_st_price-desc-rank&ds=v1%3AY2QK6YIsUeoBytuWfprn7xnvNHSr53hzHzvLzhPUOgM

any knower want to help further? I'm setting 50cm height as a must, which is what I want, everything else is a plus

>>106456136
Why does it say 5070 and 4070? Is it a typo? I want the 5070, but I don't want to buy it if it's not really a 5070

show me your pc's incredible airflow system. I want to be awed by your masterful application of bernoullis principal

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where the fuck are they
these are not coming are they
the tandem meme is the current meme

>>106456225
Im not sure what you try to link but that just shows monitor search results

>>106456245
yes, that's the idea, monitors that are 4k and 50cm or more of height

>>106456228
Is it a random company in Shenzhen listing something on Amazon? Do they have any reviews? Is the price too good to be true?

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>>106456261
>>106456245
https://www.amazon.es/Philips-32M2N8900-Pulgadas-3840x2160-concentrador/dp/B0DBLXQQTM?__mk_es_ES=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=26UW7HSCQTT3V&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.hg76IooM1TEt9DazSwO6LCMEL6sB4kaWsgW7fo1AiulMOTclKziKE8PRh0KAw5ETprXozsDdMt-peMY6twWJLZPIysKCNId4gc0oLeto68QCHFvp6-tcpkcmsWqA_MHHET1CbEYykl2LM4cfCiHFVuB9AC70EAprp7muN62ZurNKgu57ni2inoP4cdj_PlABNMhtyQ8YW_6gU7-6lExrSJq7TOt8xtBIoUSQK7QSvsg.aBfF-YGL1R5jLtjZv8VnwFUuqzTRQIvG5nbWiB8naW8&dib_tag=se&keywords=monitor&qid=1756759789&refinements=p_36%3A15000-100000%2Cp_n_g-101015533976111%3A100623689031%2Cp_n_g-1001663142111%3A27390524031%2Cp_123%3A195698%7C46655%7C46658%2Cp_n_g-1004220642091%3A13051396031%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A15144009031%2Cp_n_g-101015537898111%3A100630776031&rnid=100630725031&s=computers&sprefix=monitor%2Caps%2C99&sr=1-4&th=1
eyeing this one

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>>106456244
>3.5 GB (4 GB)

almost 6 years and 500 dollar PC still can't beat a PS5

>>106456261
right, I usually dont use amazon filters ever because they're such utter garbage. I figure out what monitor I want and then check if its cheap on amazon

>>106456268
Oled? its fine for content consumption but do you want it for programming? Burn in and such

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>>106456102
>You're right. It's really expensive for what you get.
im sorry you're poor and mad about it, being a 9950X3D owner myself, the rest of the 9000X3D range was far more expensive and so it was the easy choice.
Stop being mad at the best performing chip on the market not being peanuts so your brown hands can afford to hold it.

>>106456277
markets changed

everyone spends $500 on a CPU now lol

and they love it too

>>106456268
I bought it last year, refer to >>106454422

tdlr it's firmware buckbroke me

>>106456290
I don't want burn-in, definitely don't want that, I'm going to see if I see a VA monitor, whatever that is lels

>cost per frame
literally nobody buys hardware based on this I don't even know why these charts exists
Not a single person here knows what the cost per frame of their setup is and never will

>>106456316
burn in is the bottom of the list of issues, first you are tackling the insane fringing, then you are tackling the buggy osd and pixel refreshes that will force restarts