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Are you winning anon's?

>>106466486
>Are you winning
34, still single

>>106466493
Same all the money, home and bullshit but no family. Why even live.

5 years in IT, should I pivot to another career that is more in demand while I still can?

>>106466486
Winning at what?

>>106466536
LEL IT is still in demand. There is not a job out there that is immune from outsourcing.

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How do I get into management? Serious question
Here's my stats
>26
>extremely good grade in economics/CS Frankenstein degree
>currently senior dev with a few more responsibilities but nothing you could call real management
>autistically good on an engineering level, and been doing senior level dev for almost 4 years now, total job experience is like 6 years
>outside of work some really tiny open source projects
That's about it
My current job is comfy and paying well, but it's not "retire before retirement age tier" and I'm getting the career ladder itch.
What do?

>>106466536
>should I pivot
you should outsource your core competencies, and near-shore some tangible assets or tertiary processes, or maybe both

>>106466590
MBA or bust anon.

>>106466643
In my country that degree is more valuable than a pure MBA anon

>>106466590
>What do?
does management pays better? I dont think so, but I might be wrong

>>106466590
have people skills

>>106466664
It obviously does
>>106466684
And then? This is such a non-answer

>>106466722
are you this one weird brown guy in the middle

>>106466718
>It obviously does
honest to god question, middle management is hell on earth, and these people, usually not IT based, are making money comparable to mid+/-senior positions. Also, a lot of IT guys are making uuuuge money just simply getting a higher position as a dev. There are some salary ranges available only to trusted employees.

>>106466813
Define middle management, I've yet to see a company where middle management earns less than basic senior devs unless you're talking about some star devs in meme fields like ML.
I DONT mean product owners, that's not management IMO

>>106466854
Just to clarify, for me middle management means everything team lead and above, or squad/department lead and below.
So basically people responsible for 5-30 people

>>106466900
>So basically people responsible for 30+ people
yeah those are making dosh, I have no idea how to get there or how to help you son. I suppose, get lucky with a small company that will be shooting up the stars, and you are one of the OG squad, basically glorified nepotism.

I don’t even write code anymore. It’s all just prompting and agentic workflows. I don’t give a fuck, I hate programming.

>>106466486
Hell yeah brother I'm mentally ill

>>106466972
>agentic
this is the dumbest new techbro phrase, possibly ever, it is even worse than "performant" and "compute units" combined

>>106466988
It's just a term anon relax
There's much worse shit in the AI space, namely the scaling hypothesis and singularity meme as well as "AI ethics" (lmao)

>>106466988
Except it’s an actual thing, retard.

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>>106466590
I'm also 26 and I'm queued up to be the team lead after the current guy. I hold an MBA and the idea was really only floated bc I took over management responsibilities like project tracking, delivered some mid-visibility projects, and generally care about the success of the team. But at my work its kinda startup like and I wouldn't expect this at your mid-large companies.

>>106466486
I'm employed, which is better than most genz in CS

>>106467062
>I'm also *bragging bragging bragging*
>but *humblebrag humblebrag*
What the fuck was the point of your post?

>>106467073
Le reddit brag meme. KYS faggot, this is a jobs thread not a grovel on the ground for pennies from people who actually work for a living.

>>106467079
You literally didn't even contribute anything to the discussion, nor did you ask any follow up question, so yes it's pure bragging

Should have listened to the artists. I’m laughing as you retards are made obsolete.

>>106467089
No honestly kill yourself, get in your car and find the nearest brick wall to run in. You poor fags shit up the thread about faggot shit all day.

>>106467073
replying to the other 26 year old in this thread, read nigga

>>106467122
Replying with wha retard
>yeah I'm also 26 but I'm about to join management heh look at me

>>106467135
stay bitter loser

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>>106467039
>>106467034
>top results for "agentic" are about ai sloppan
find me a use of the word "agentic" from before the year 2000 and i will believe you wrt it being a real word and not techbro babytalk

>>106467135
What's your TC? You sound salty as fuck on a jobs thread with people talking about jobs.

>>106467092
>He thinks "Artificial Intelligence" is why it's hard to find new jobs and not "Actually Indians"
We spoke about this in the other thread but it's all a cycle. When they finally take a hit to quality is when it turns around.

>>106467173
>TC
go back to teamblind, jeet

no one but mumbai refugees use that term

>>106467169
>kikekikego
holy JIDF

>>106467180
>he thinks quality matters
this, everyone, is pure cope. it doesn’t matter how genius of a coder you think you are. it’s time to sneed about it.

>>106467236
I DO NOT ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION, INDIAN

GO LOSE SOME MORE RAFALES TO PAKIS ABOUT IT

>>106466988
I agree. They should have a better word for the ability to take actions and/or make decisions

I'm dating an Indian woman who works in big tech. I'm Indian-American (born and raised in USA, American accent, don't smell like burning garbage). I've slowly been piecemealing information to her about how I believe Indians have ruined tech in America and she is actually quite receptive

>>106467278
Another one of the "actually, I'm one of the good ones".

>Remote
>Location Remote
...
>This is a cross-team role, primarily reporting into the Data Analytics Manager, with a dotted line to the Development Team Lead.
>Because of this, you will be expected to work a hybrid model, attending our Suffolk Head Office based in Claydon, 4 times a month / once a week.
F O
U F
C F
K !!

Lying shit stains!


Seriously, every job I see listed as remote is actually hybrid when you look through the job description.
Why do they do this?
Why do they waste my time with jobs I don't want?
Why do they waste their own time wading through CVs from people that are out of bounds?

>>106467260
pipe down, queer

>>106467278
shitted nigga

>>106466590
>How do I get into management?
Don't be autistic

>>106467265
"agentic" is not a word but "agent-based" would be a valid if ultimately useless phrase. really what makes "agentic" so egregious is that EVERYTHING is an agent. just saying that there is an agent involved is meaningless; if there was no agent, there would be no workflow. if anything, you are admitting that you, the coooooder are not an agent and do not have any influence on any process.

just call it what it is, "AI(-based) workflow". it's just a weasel word to get out of getting laughed at for leaning on AI slop, except also a self-own since it basically means "I outsourced it and didn't do anything myself" taken more literally

>>106467278
shes just a higher caste who (rightfully) views the lower ones as slaves. shes still gonna scam you and everyone around you regardless

>>106467278
Also dating an Indian woman, but I'm the techfag. We have discussed the growing resentment of the American workforce to Indian offshoring particularly in the tech field. Its hilarious because she has family in the US that are forced to utilize offshore workers and they say they hate working with them because they can't get shit done and are lazy.

>>106467336
>rightfully
The absolute state of his general

>>106467336
I'm an asshole so whenever I hear the word "agentic" I MAKE people explain to me exactly what the agentic portion of this LLM pipeline is. Is it the ability to call tools if you have the LLM return JSON? Is it the ability for the LLM to chain together multiple calls until it completes a task?

Make the fags who use the word "agentic" make it very clear.

>shes just a higher caste who (rightfully) views the lower ones as slaves. shes still gonna scam you and everyone around you regardless

I actually did explain to her how Indian culture is basically just a big line of people shitting upstream from another (scamming) and she couldn't stop laughing.

>>106467345
>Its hilarious because she has family in the US that are forced to utilize offshore workers and they say they hate working with them because they can't get shit done and are lazy.
Dude, my dad is an Indian immigrant who came to the USA in the early 90s. I remember growing up, the times I would hear my dad yelling the loudest was when he would be on the phone arguing with some Indian retard. He told me about how dealing with Indians is the worst part of his job - again, this is from my dad, an Indian immigrant.

>>106467385
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THIS GENERAL

>>106467385
RIP flush yourself now

>>106467336
>>106467372
You retards are getting hung up on a word. I am not spoonfeeding you, but consider that a human not having influence on the process is the point.

>>106467427
You're not spoonfeeding anyone anything you fucking moron. It is an undeniable fact that the word "agent" is aggressively misused and is basically a marketing buzzword

>>106467438
What word would you use instead smartass
>hard mode: has to be as concise as agentic

>>106467359
all indians are slaves

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>>106467391

>>106467427
again
>just saying that there is an agent involved is meaningless; if there was no agent, there would be no workflow.
all workflows are inherently "agentic" in that they have agents, human or other. and "agentic" isnt even a fucking word

>>106467450
>slop

holy krishna, the absolute state of this general. It really is all just shit stained browns accusing others of being Indian.

YOU ARE ALL INDIAN NOT ME I AM INDIAN-AMERICAN SAAAAAR ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER SaAAAAAAAAAR

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I've yet to meet an indian coworker that wasnt ass at their job, even indian managers
>"sar you must solve this problem with an ansible playbook that an on-call monkey runs when something breaks"
>tell him its a network engineering issue that can be fixed with proper routing and load balancing
>"our team must redeem more problems so we look good just ignore what you think is right and send ansible playbook"

>bought ergonomic mesh chair
>it's uncomfortable
bros...
should've bought a lazy boy instead

I want all non-Whites (this includes jews) out of this general NOW

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क्या वास्तव में इस सामान्य में कुछ भी चर्चा की जाती है या यह सिर्फ स्किज़ो पोस्टिंग है

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>>106467600
आगे बढ़ने से पहले अपना कुल मुआवज़ा पोस्ट करें महोदय

>>106467596
Go herman miller or secret lab if your a fat fuck. No other brand is even comparable.

>>106467625
मेरा सालाना पैकेज उनहत्तर लाख है।

>>106467625
is this Agentic?

>>106467625
What was he even trying to do?
How do you pull that thing up?
Glad he wasn't squished.

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>>106467497
They're still buttblasted about their failed moon launch - know its bad when they have a melty like this.

>>106467743
Wait did India really have a failed moon launch?

>>106466507
at this point why not just find a golddigger who will at least carry your seed?
just make sure to DNA test

If you make less than 200k you aren't going to make it.

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>>106467743
>>106467763
>Wiki: The Vikram lander attempted a lunar landing on 6 September 2019; the lander crashed due to a software error
thats what they get for relying on indian software engineers

>>106467763
yeah but i thought that was months ago. it was lulzy because they tried to hide it with a bunch of 3d renders/ai slop videos before every other news agency got wind of a rocket fucking exploding at like 200 feet

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>>106467813
This but unironically. Even 500k is just barely above poverty.

>>106467847
Yes, if your house is less than 900k, are you really middle class?

>>106467820
nvm i was thinking of a more recent one
https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/indian-rocket-launch-fails-earth-observation-satellite-lost

>>106467861
If your house is that cheap just go homeless. There's no difference.

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>>106466493
gonna be foreveralone unless you make some drastic changes

>>106467256
>He says while complaining about the ever diminishing quality of once quality brands
The big players can only fuck up so much before somebody smaller comes around and does things in ways that customers want.
See HP.

>>106467260
You're actually right. In fact all use of the word "agentic" prior to 2000 was in feminist research papers. Really makes you think.
Side note: I hate that Google is trying to retroactively change the past Internet so even if I look for results from the past I get materials that are clearly newly published.

>>106467972
HP fucked around so bad that people realized "Hey Dell wasn't that bad of a company now that we have reviewed our warranty returns"

>>106468046
link em, i wanna know the context to see what they intend that non-word to mean

>>106467517
I am one of the good ones sir!

>>106467304
4 times a month isn't that bad. Cry more bitch nigga

>>106467625
use case?

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>>106467847
>Three vacations a year
>BMW Drive guy series
>Toyota Land Yacht
>Average

Is it normal to combine netadmin and sysadmin together? Absolutely bombed an interview for a combo today and it's got me depressed as fuck. Answered the net admin questions flawlessly but then they threw in a bunch of acronyms and sys admin shit and I flopped. Maybe answered 5 of their questions correctly out of 15.

>>106468159
anything less is poorfaggotry

>>106468159
gotta keep up with the jonses

>>106468159
I haven't even taken 1 vacation in like 6 years
Though next year my parents want us all to take a family trip together, so I get to look forward to spending a week with four people who never liked me, even when I was a kid

>>106468279
The best f you to family who mistreat is to just not respond bro. Just don't go, lmao.

>>106468089
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10573877/

>>106468317
>clearly just "like an agent"/"having agency"
>probably used(made-up) because saying something like "forceful" or "powerful"
boring but thank you regardless. and thinking about it myself i guess there isnt really a good easy to recall adjective for having agency. agentic is still a stupid word tho

wfh -> 3 day hybrid
no name -> meta
140k tc -> 265k
white manager -> jeet

I already signed but was I right?

>>106468305
They didn't mistreat me, they just didn't like me.
Also, they're starting the vacation trip in the city where I live...

>>106468410
Literally same thing.

>>106468421
Well it's my own fault, I was an unlikable kid. I'm actually thinking of using some of the yearly bonus from my SWE job to help pay for the vacation for everyone.

>>106467649
This. Either two of this only matters

>>106468135
Lmao

>>106468135
It is when I live nowhere near their office, so won't be selected even if I did want to travel because they'll prefer a local candidate.

why is the USA visa system retarded?

h1b
>yeah you've got a job offer at the top tech company in the world but fuck you, you'll need to wait 6+ months through a h1b lottery

eb-2
>yeah, you're making $200k/y but are you working in cybersecurity, AI or healthcare? no? fuck you

Is the only real option to work for a USA company and get a transfer after a year?

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the more you don't give a shit about your job, the more you should be good at it

why didnt any of you tell me trump died

Some stupid corporate event/business event. Asking for your favorite song to play.
Suggest me some bangers
>NWA Straight outta Compton

>>106469084
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwnRX9M96RrCblaUXcR74xNMvXC38h7wY&si=wBCN0A0g5kDSbVb6

Thank me later

>>106468959
The only option is fuck off we're full.

>>106469084
only one option
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4StAFB4eqU

>>106469084
Anything works as long as its not sexual. People are less prudish with music than they are with your outfit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnZV7lbYpNw&list=PLRvM2fAdMqrvUYcOZb-BmdurasrOEpGmM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOmX6HmGp0U&list=PLC310CFE6BA0A6281

>>106469084
"the greatest royalty-free banger" according to a youtuber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWMSvX4Q218

>>106468981
I hate that companies view it as a huge negative for not liking or wanting the product you're working on. All the products that I gave zero shits about have been my best works purely because I had zero bias.

should i go to school for this career

>>106469329
Its the only option. Also fuck off were full like your mom :P

>>106466722
>so what we are some kind of suicide squad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPQPdYttl7U

>>106469329
I didn't, lmao. I make 100k+ and my degree isn't even related to IT.

>>106469329
Absolutely not.
Get some real-world experience through an internship or work freelance, put it on a resume then work call center and transfer into a dev/cyber role.

Or join the military for a clearance and then get a guaranteed job when you get out.

>>106469522
Getting a developer internship is like joining the NBA.

>>106469252
Based

>>106468382
probably because the hybrid means you already live in a HOCL area and the increased TC helps you save? but be prepared for more BS

Average day at the help desk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV9knEXcGlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AHJldlzBiY

>team meeting again tomorrow
sighhh maybe they'll realize im a fraud this one and fire me finally

>>106466813
i think that guy might be john titor

>>106466722
the woman on the left

here's a nice little cartoon for my tech bros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idCFV0KF4uo

>>106469927
Britain if real.

>>106469927
100$ to buy a year a time. Yep I am buying multiple decades a month and living forever.

learn a trade

Compiler engineers are over paid. Tell me i am wrong.

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>>106470043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCqcYC0kwDs

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What even is business casual? What the fuck do I wear to my first day at work? Picrel is how I usually dress.

>>106470100
Don't wear shorts, dont wear graphic tee's, dont wear flip flops.

>>106470100
You're almost there, just wear a lighter less tacky variety of flannel shirt and a white tshirt underneath, and you're doing business casual

ive ascended past the "apply for jobs and never hear back" phase of my career to the "have recruiters reach out to me, do an interview, and get rejected" phase

>>106470221
Don't worry, you can still go back to the ghosting phase.

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>This hybrid role combines deep technical expertise with client-facing consulting, split approximately 70% onsite delivery and 30% presales support.
Just LinkedIn things.

>>106470100
slacks. you can get away with jeans. wear a white T under a casual collared shirt with long sleeves, you can roll them up. by collared shirt I dont mean polos

>>106469927
in my youth I routinely quit jobs just for fun to enjoy some of my time. It was a different job market. Now I'm old, doing nothing wfh, all this so the number on my account can go up but I don't really need it anyway. It is all FOMO and psyops beamed directly into my neuralink that I need more money. In fact, I think I'm at a point I can't even disconnect anymore. Doing nothing for a couple of days and existential dread starts crawling in. Pathetic really.

This is a hypothetical. Your team hires a front-end expert and he doesn't know how to install node packages. What would your opinion be of such individual and those who hired him.

I want to get out of consulting but I can only find consulting jobs
There's not even a filter to avoid these shit stains

>>106471440
Can you give the job to me instead? I've been making front-end projects with Node/Vite/React for a while now

>>106471440
Isn't that just `npm add`?

>>106471440
based retards/html purists gaming the system instead of acting like tryhard nerds. Why do you even care?

>>106471777
>why do you care that your colleague is completely incompetent and whoever is in charge of hiring at your company is making the company a much worse place to work

>>106471440
Uh oh, someone's not being a team player! Sure, the new engineer can't actually write code but why does that matter when he can spend hours talking to your manager about their favourite sport?

This actually happened to me and it took over a year for both of them to be fired, leaving a legacy of complete dogshit behind them.

>>106469252
for me, it's how the seniors and boomers making you having to Commit for the Mission™. I'm just trying to get stuff done but they nitpick every single thing from the way I'd behave, act, and dress.

>>106471440
just help him anon it wont hurt you

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
I AM NOT GOOD WITH PEOPLE
I CANNOT EVEN MAINTAIN A PRESENTABLE ONLINE PROFILE
MY GITHUB IS FULLY PRIVATE BECAUSE I AM SCARED TO MAKE PUBLIC MY WORK
I WRITE BLOG POSTS FOR MYSELF AND I KEEP THEM PRIVATE
FUCK THIS SHIT
I HATE PEOPLE

>>106472058
Made that mistake once, won't happen twice. If you know you know.

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>>106471905
I know /pol/ over-uses the term "clown world" but I think it applies to what you described

>>106471799
I do hiring as well and try to get the retards over the line. The less competent the people are, the better my skills are valued. Get on my level.

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>CEO sends an invite at 7pm yesterday for an all-hands meeting at 12:30pm today

Either we're getting bought or laid off!

More Oracle and Salesforce layoff due to AI... You bros ok?

>>106472082
clean your github, make it semi-presentable, force yourself to do it

>>106472429
When is the bleeding going to stop?? Tech has been hammered for years, I thought this shit went in cycles...
I'm nervous, a massive project I was supposed to be put on is now in limbo. Execs still haven't signed off on budget :(

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>>106472465
When interest rates decrease. Which means either when Trump kicks the bucket or when he replaces J Pow with some unqualified reality show contestant sycophant

>>106472082
I make my work public and nobody gave a shit anyway.
Dont hate other people anon, they dont really care.

>>106472417
If it's 7pm that's likely an acquisition being finalized late at night. Congrats. Hopefully you get some equity.

>>106472581
Maybe. I'm not worried about a layoff because the typical pattern with layoff in the past was to get the invite to the all hands at 10am for a meeting at 10:30am, and find that half the staff was fired at 9am.

>Hopefully you get some equity

I have 5000 options (half vested) at $1 each, so maybe I'd get a decent bonus but this isn't the kind of company to be selling at $20/share

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>>106472607
Let us know what it turns out to be. Or properly migrate to /utwg/. Whichever.

How do I find startups ? Would be better if I could meet in-person.

>>106472082
sounds like you're just afraid of getting judged harshly. just make your shit public, people will be far nicer than you expect. i have a blog with some mediocre posts that probably are at the level of an inventive 14 year old, wrote it mostly for future me and never even linked it anywhere, and recently someone cold emailed me with a question about one of my posts. before that i didn't even know that anyone was reading my shit. felt pretty good

>>106472631
wellfound (formerly angellist) is a job board for startups

i've been doing research on ergonomics, and i reached the conclusion that my desk is too high (29.5 inches)

> coworker is given macbook
> macbook "disappears"
> says she left it in her car and it was stolen
what happened to the macbook /twg/?

>>106473162
it was stolen

>>106473025
Get keychron m6
And asus falcate

>>106473162
MacBook was left in her car and it was stolen.

We had an explicit policy where you were not allowed to leave work laptops in cars.

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>be wfh chad
>company has an irl meet
>pay for me to fly out to one of their offices
>company pays for me to stay in a 4-star hotel
>open bar tab
>i run it up like $120 every single night
>leave every death by powerpoint meeting 20 min into it
>noped the fuck out of afternoon outings to fool around with a grindr femboy
>two nights in a row

>>106467169
Weather simulations.

>>106467278
I hate these types of post they litter this site now
>uhh I’m [insert hated minority group] but here’s the twist - I’m actually secretly BASED, bet you didn’t see that one coming
>Whooooaaaaa…
Kill yourself you fucking Reddit faggot moron

Is there a bigger humiliation ritual than performance self assessment?
>rate myself 10/10 in every category
>manager rated me 0/10 in every category
>forces his pip into my ass during performance review meeting

>>106473596
That will teach you to make a mockery of the sacred self assessment.

When working remote for a country where people make way more than in yours what kind of salary are you expected to ask for?
I live in Spain and got an offer from a Swiss company. Pretty sure a cleaning lady makes more than me there.

>>106473343
Extremely based.
Last time I had to fly for a stupid convention I made myself some cheap sandwiches the three days I spent there, grabbed some restaurant tickets from strangers and passed them as mine then spent the money in booze and hookers.

>>106473025
I hope we are talking about pair research.

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>interview with FAGMAN
>get through phone screen
>get through full loop
>get rejected
>talk to others also interviewing
>they tell me they're talking to direct team members for the role
>I never got that
>everyone I talked to was from different high visibility teams
I think I went through a potential unicorn interview. I never had a chance.

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>>106466467
my job has completely become pasting shit into copilot while I browse 4chan or instagram

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>>106472417
Update:

they held a fucking all hands to tell us that 2 sales bros got fired wtf

Also I got 5000 more useless stock options, bringing me up to 10,000 sheets to wipe my ass with

I'm at a company event at the moment.
Everyone is getting drunk. Making jokes and laughing, having stupid talks and stuff.
I'm here drinking and thinking how I will delete myself eventually and how I don't see any point in anything.
I wish I was normie. Maybe not.
I don't understand how normal people operate.

This is an unironic post.

>>106474472
Why does that warrant an all-hands?

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>>106474653
At least you're drinking. Being at company parties is even worse if you're a straight edge.

>>106474653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cDfVlGOoHM

Are you all ready for the real squeeze, anons?
we just got told that next year there will be no hiring at our company because they think investing that money on AI subscriptions to "enhance the velocity" of the current employees is a better choice.
I think it's time to take out some paid courses on the company dime and dust off my CV

>>106474676
I usually get drunk alone. I never drink with other people around.

>>106474472
Hope they're set at a dirt cheap strike price to make it worth your while.

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>Create a new slack channel almost daily
>Invite everyone
>Posts some lame group interaction you’re meant to participate in
>It’s the only message in the channel
>Nobody participates
>Hasn't gotten the message after months that she’s irritating everyone

Another channel for the graveyard! Building culture through everyone telling each other 10 wacky Star Wars facts they know. These niggas cannot be real.

>>106474653
https://youtu.be/x6LovY_DdEE

Any of you other guys worked as IT support but switched to development?
How do you find IT Managers treat you?
I always get a vibe of resentment off them, like I'm a pariah or maybe more accurately an apostate.

Or maybe that's just IT Managers in general, even when I was in IT the average manager usually seemed to be full of themselves and some form of latent psychopath.

>>106472642
post your blog, will take a look. Hopefully it is not ai slop

>>106473324
>explicit policy not to get robbed
OK

>>106473162
stolen by the worker indirectly to pay for contraband (her BLVCK BVLL husband(female) pawned it for bootleg Nintendo Switch accessories)

I have a two week gap in my resume. Is it possible to get a tech job ever again?

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>>106474925
If you have a 2 hour gap you might as well sell your body to the army or on the streets.

>>106474950
It's so over... Can I at least become an officer? I have two PhDs and started my own drone company in 1997.

>>106474972
no, being smart in the army is a detriment

>>106475003
Then how do you become Officer? You need a degree according to their website.

>>106475043
>need a degree
yes
>be smart
no

>>106474972
2 PhD's consider being a researcher for the military, lockheed martin being the premier in the field.

You need a degree to be an officer so consider doing that for either Navy, Space Force, or Airforce. The Marines and Army suck ass unless you want to be an Infantry officer in which case you are the golden goose. Don't get DUI's, dont fuck other peoples wives and don't do drugs then you can rise in the ranks rather quickly.

>he was alive in 1997
not even giveing you a (You) you geriatric fuck

>>106475078
>lockheed martin being the premier
Their stock price dropped though.

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>>106475078
>>106475188
locksneed martin

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>>106468159
>>106468279
Like days of vacation? I got almost 70 days left atm. HR literally force&pay for at least 2 week holidays.

>>106473162
Did she file a police report? If no, then that's on her and a legit reason to be fired. Unless she can show broken window or anything.

For IT, that means using your remote deactivation tool as soon as she makes a formal report approved by her manager.
Then data loss prevention and data security should be assessed and executed. That includes deactivation of her credentials on IT level, and the rest is to be handled by data teams and security.

I caanot type in bed.

How do you get a social CS job like in a call center for with just an AS fresh out of college?

>>106475418
apply, hell desk jobs are abundant (for now lol). Probably the best way to get into an actual good company, get some insurance, and get internally hired for something not retarded.

>>106474972
>I have two PhDs
put the fries in the bag lil nigga

>>106474972
>PhDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VthZEN93loQ&ab_channel=ShaundeGamer

How much of a gap becomes too much ? Should I worry about money running out first ?

>>106475418
Helpdesk will take anyone with a pulse that can speak english and not shit themselves over the phone under pressure in my experience.

>>106475587
any more than one day and your fucked you dont have plausible deniability anymore

>>106475587
1 day of not working is lost money, so it pretty much nukes your cv.
>>106475627
this

I knew I shouldn't have taken the weekend off. Guess I should just enroll for welfare now...

Hi Anon!

>>106475738
???

>>106475587
Should be no gaps.

That said, on resumes people usually state start/end months, not down to the exact day. So like
>Job 1: Apr 2020 - Sep 2025
>Job 2: Sep 2025 - Present
Even if you got laid off today, as long as you get hired in September you can still make it look just fine. Hell I'd even say you can go one more month. If one job ends "Sep" and the next job starts "Oct", that'll still basically look like no gaps.

Is this gap shit just a meme or is it an american thing? there is no way it's this big of a fucking deal. anyone you can always lie.

>>106476492
It never works out that way in real life lol, so yeah just lie like you got fired/left and hired the same month every time.

>>106470702
>>106470200
>wearing a white t-shirt under your collared shirt
are you a fucking mormon?

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>>106473806
Please respond

>>106476579
dumb thirdie, companies will always pay local wages
t. work for a us corp in europe and do not make 1m/year

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>our company hired an R&D manager
>allegedly an expert in the field, not some MBA cocksucker
*a month later*
>uses chatgpt for basic stuff like making slides (they still suck)
>cannot draft a basic spec sheet template without someone else doing 99% of the work (he gets the credit though)
>bumbles like a retard during meetings
>is paid more than our best engineers
Is being a useless retard a requirement to become a manager? That shit happens for the 3rd time in my career.

>>106476663
>Is being a useless retard a requirement to become a manager?
obviously

>>106476506
I doubt it actually matters unless your gap is massive. If you take 2–3 months between jobs, you can just say that you got a large severance and decided to take a break.

employers actually caring if someone takes some time off for themselves. god forbid. I hate this fucking modern slavery

>>106468959
I hope you are denied the ability to work here for the rest of your life

>>106468959
you should just kys instead

>>106468959
$200k wouldn't be enough for me to consider living in the US. Maybe $500k/year would do it.

>>106474697
>getting dust on a CV
NGMI. Casually let your superiors know you keep it updated too.

>>106472528
It’s funny to me that people suddenly start believing the fed knows what they’re doing because Trump bad

>>106468959
lmao, get-em ranjeesh.

so is it normal to hate my job? Like do you hate your jobs too. Regardless of the pay

>>106476610
I doubt my previous employer (headquartered in Europe) paid our American developers proper US SWE wages. At least I hope so, the Americans we got were generally really fucking useless.

Once one of them dropped a production database before going to bed. And as I was pulling my hair out in an emergency Google Meet call, his team lead said something like "Yeah, we've actually gone over not doing this exact thing he just did with him previously."

>>106476774
I liked my job for many years. At some point it changed and now I'm unemployed.

>>106476767
Only retarded people think that "muh president" gives a single fuck if you commit crimes anymore when it comes to clearance. It really doesn't matter.

>>106476774
I actually like my job. I hate the colleagues, especially retarded. And the boss because that nigga is the 1%.

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Things are so desperate that I'm considering applying for a three days per week in office position.

Hopefully they have parking spaces or I'm fucking out.

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>>106476757
>europoors seething about america again

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>>106476723
>slavery
???????????????
You can quit. At. Any. Time.
McDonald's is right. there. if you'd rather.

High paying jobs are competitive, that's why they're high-paying jobs. So yes, you are being compared to all the other applicants on every metric. Including whether you had to "take time off for myself because I'm a snowflake that might flake out any day". A red flag is a red flag, deal with it.

Is there absolutely any market for doing short term gigs for cash? I'm bored as fuck in my day job. We're basically getting merged and all feature dev stopped. I'm basically just watching Anime. I want to build up a bit of fun money.

Fiverr is a no go. That shit is filled with jeets.

>>106477653
AI annotation

>>106477872
AI annotation? Tell me more.

>>106476610
Literal skill issue, lrn2negotiate and lrn2english?

>>106477294
200k/yr in america is literally not even enough to live on

>>106477570
Neo liberal boomer. Kys

It’s not about any one job it’s about lack of rights for the working class. Kys

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A lot of the women at my job have those Labubu things attached to their backpacks... If I get one too, will that make more popular with the ladies around the office?

>>106478769
No, they'll know you're gay

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>>106478612
>"""""""""""lack of rights""""""""""""'
You can quit AT ANY TIME. Nobody is forced to take a job they don't want.

If you feel that you deserve more for your skills, then you are free to ask for your exact demands until you find someone who agrees with you. It's a free market.

I agree with regulations for safety. But everything else is completely fair game for the EMPLOYER to dictate. You don't have to agree, you don't have to take the job, you can ask for more compensation, it's up to you. But the EMPLOYER is the one creating jobs, taking on entrepreneurial risk, and contributing to society, not the employee.

Don't like it? Go start a business of your own. Good luck

>>106478769
No. If you find one with Cardcaptor or Chobits trinkets on her backpack, she's a keeper.

>>106478786
At some point you need to realise that the free market is an idealization and that people really are forced into certain jobs by concrete facts like hunger and shelter, supporting family, physical location, and workplace drama, etc etc.

>I agree with regulations for safety. But everything else is completely fair game[...]
Just extend the concept of safety to something like bare essentials for staying alive, better yet, the essentials for citizens to maintain their dignity

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>>106478769
i've been meaing to ask. are stanley cups for females only or do males drink from them too?

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>>106478769
>I'm probably the youngest person on my level, but regardless of that the company is 45+ on average
I wonder what would make me popular with anyone.

But no, unless you like these creepy things, don't wear them.

>>106478776
But I'm not gay...
>>106478814
I haven't seen or even thought about Chobits in like 20 years...
>>106478892
Idk. Some guy at my office has one, but I've never seen him use it. It just collects dust on his desk. I use a knockoff brand and it works fine...

>>106478769
if you wanna be popular with the ladies, just be yourself

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>>106478942
now you are and now you remember how precious Chi is

Hello sir! Good day! Kindly do the needful and provide me a referral.

Not even the Lalabu guy got trolled enough. Dead thread, indians won.

Utwg is also dead, past its limit.

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>>106479166
maybe the real trolling was the frens we made along the way

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>>106479174
I like to think that my own getting a job is proof that the job market is completely irrational and is beyond discussion

>>106476757
I think by now everyone should realize that we pay insanely low taxes Even in our high col and higher tax areas, 200k is still pretty darn good.

>>106476745
>>106468959
This but I hope you're denied entry of any kind for life

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beseeching the god of destruction (submitting an application to Kel-Tec to work on incredibly complicated meme guns inexplicably popular with minorities)

>>106479337
If I'm going to have to reload using a stripper clip, it's going to be a Red9

>>106479361
I looked it up and holy shit Luger still "supports" the C96 and still sells parts for them and stocks a few refurbs at a time

>>106479361
when I reload my AR15 I pop the entire upper receiver off by the rear takedown pin and slam clips into the still-inserted magazine

>>106479337
>reloading pistol with rifle rounds from a clip
do americans fucking really

wfh chads, I'm rotting away my 20's and I have no idea how to get out of this asocial mindspace

I went to japan and was a digital nomad for 1 month and that was even worse - I only spoke to 2 single moms that whole time. One was a 60ish dolt who did that Japanese "eeEEHHH???" to everything and it was embarrassing. She hid her daughter from me too. The other mom was a 34ish hipster who literally never slept and almost got us in a few car accidents. At the end of this trip I lost my voice from not using it.

I go to the gym and for walks and make some small talk with the indians I see there. The other white dudes are zoned out in a daze and aren't really approachable - plus I'm like 6 years older than most of them

I've been working from home for 3 years now - thanks for being amusing all the time. This is my only form of socializing.

I drank too much and feel nauseous. Thank god for WFH

>>106478892
I have a Stanley thermos I bought in 2017 but it's useless now because people will get the wrong idea

>>106479466
Why not just put stickers on it to cover the logos

I, ironically, have a giant General Dynamics one on my Bubba bottle

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>>106479296
And it's still not appealing enough to live in the US.

>>106479361
americans really out here having to learn how to dash cancel clip reloads insisting their country isnt a shithole. smdh americans dont even have detachable magazines, what a cucked country

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I went to fake-work today and it actually felt really good! I thought I was gonna be all salty about having my time wasted by doing paperwork and responding to month-old emails at a unit that has had no tactical or strategic relevance ever, but seeing people was nice and I made the horrid mistake of signing up for a bunch of secondary duties in my mirth, and felt nothing bad about being told I might have to actually work in the coming year on getting the juniors trained and ready to do whatever it is we're supposedly doing. Getting a real job was an incredible morale boost to take to my fake job!

>>106479674
>complaining that stakeholders aren't squeezing you more efficiently
I never understood this mindset.

the zoomer at work didn't know what the eyedropper tool was

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>>106479762
At my job in the navy, I am a low-tier IT monkey and a mid-tier radioman, and at my other job, I'm a low-tier IT monkey but for an incredibly complicated piece of equipment where half of it is pieces of helicopters. These are interesting and cool things and somehow I've finally gained a modicum of respect from those around me, even if it's just for skill and a little dampened by my other lunacy.

The scariest thing in my life right now is that I might have actually fucking won, and I'm not used to that. I'm sure as the training year goes on and I get more acquainted with my other job I'll have more complaints, but if my strongest complaint is "I get paid to be told NOT to touch this thing I find very interesting quite as hard as I'd like" that's a good problem to have.

>>106479813
>my chief says I did a good job because he doesn't want me to kill myself after working 14 hour days for weeks
lol

>>106479804
Because nobody calls it eyedropper retard, it's a Color picker

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>>106479831
Technically speaking, today was an 8 hour day for one guy followed by a 4 hour day for someone else. And one was for the navy, one was for the air force. The Army can go fuck itself after all.

>>106479863
For me, it's Typhlosion.

I wanna understand the job description I am going to attain soon.
I thought I was an it specialist in Systemintegration, but the sticker for a newbie that got introduced as a system engineer.

I am situated in Germany, if that helps.
Just want to wrap my head around why a glorified sysadmin with scripting and coding experience is and what my future chances and career options might be.

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>>106479857
Oof.

>>106479857
well he didn't know color picker either, he was amazed at the technology

>>106479937
Do you have an engineering degree?

>>106480422
Neither of us do.
Hence why I am so confused.
Though I am aiming for one, maybe first study on my free time. There is enough information where to get started.

>>106480468
No engineering degree = not an engineer.

Hope that helps!

>>106479937
What do you coworkers or team members do, then? Maybe that'd explain more.

>>106480475
Thanks.

>>106480630
Well, we do several things, but in core that'd be this:
1 st level support
Helpdesk operations
Automation and legacy system maintenance
Device and user lifecycle management
Network and firewall maintenance, configuration
Risk management and weakness analysis
We are also currently doing a migration to the cloud, one of my projects is dealing with creating an intermediary step until the rest of the company is ready to move.

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>>106476506
Not a meme. Eurotard here, Was talking with senior manager in my company (large multinational based in western EU) and said the single biggest red flag for a résumé in the industry are career breaks, more than 2-3 months. Both him and the HR agency they use share this opinion. He's also personally critical of "sabbaticals" etc.
I fucking hate this mentality as well, I think it's retarded, but it is what it is.

>>106480948
Well, I had the same problem for another reason. A lot of setback, still constantly working, despite being a job I would pull my teeth out of now that I think about it.
They got impressed that I am such a cattle.

>>106480948
As someone who has some gaps in-between jobs I'd love to hear the reasoning for that.
Between coasting and hoping you'll find something else and quitting and then actively looking something better without losing any energy in a job you no longer care about I will always chose the latter if I can afford it.

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The job market is stupid, pic related just for a junior position

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>>106466467
>28
>consulting programmer
>1 month of programming
>11 months of tickets and mails and nothing else
What a life, i feel my brain turning into mush as i write this, if i get fired i'll end up at a fucking mcdonald i can feel it

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>>106480877
That's a pretty much description of the most basic generic role IT in any small company.
System integration may be an euphemism in that case, that you can take an advantage of - it can mean anything in your cv.

>>106479450
we told you to use bumble in japan anon
why didn't you listen?

>>106468159
Poor choices lead to you having little money to save.

>>106468159
That is average in America. Sorry you're poor!

>>106477570
>>106478786
>you can quit at any time
And if you don't have a perfect excuse or already have a job offer lined up, the recruiter may as well think you got fired for raping and murdering your coworkers (not necessarily in that order) and you're fucked.

>>106479296
>we pay extremely low taxes
I set a manual $150 witholding from my every paycheck on top of the other taxes and still get told I owe money every tax day. Fuck you and your "our taxes are low". If taxes were any higher most people wouldn't be able to afford RENTING APARTMENTS. We'd be living in the streets and parks, and I don't want to hear any trust fund kid Dave Ramsey bullshit about how we under the same circumstances would totally for real own entire houses if we BEANS AND RICE WHILE LIVING IN A BOX FOR 40 YEARS following the advice of some rich faggot born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

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Switching from Java services to Kotlin/Go seems like make-work. Change my mind.

>>106483746
from a technical pov it is even worse, modern java is a much better platform all things considered (performance, support, features including even LLMs are better@java I wager)
the pool of java devs are much bigger than kotlin/go. OTOH java is the most jeetified language, so in the white male case it might worth the trade off, but keep in mind working in a niche subpar stack might affect long term employability. Also not dealing with @sprong@ is a blessing.