>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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AMD vs Intel seems like a marketing trick. Why would media focus center so much scrutiny and standardization, testing, youtube reviews, etc. on the one PC component that rarely goes bad (outside of failures like 14900K) and never bottlenecks, instead of actual problematic PC components like PSU's (which can damage your whole system), SSD's which actually go bad (even nice ones like Samsung 980s) all the time due to write lifecycles, AIO brands which can fuck your PC by overheating from failed radiators, or GPU price to performance (a bit better than the rest)? RAM surely also has some room for media consensus on what's good and bad, who can say if G Skill 32 GB is going to last longer than TEAMGROUP?

>>106688801
I don't get it, why is everyone here obsessed with newest [thing] releases? My 1070 can run games in 4k without any problems. No, not just indie slop, stuff like Arma and other modern shooters. Hell, I finished cyberpunk on medium graphics, though that did lag slightly at times.
Starting to think every single benchmark site is a fucking scam or that my rig is blessed by gods when I see people debating GPU performance.

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>>106688849
>cpu never bottlenecks
>cpu does not matter it's only the shit that computes everything on your shitty pc

poors really get on here and say my PS4 tier hardware runs esports slop just fine

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>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved

>>106688860
because you're coping, lying and seething. Your gpu doesnt even get updates anymore, although considering the india-levels of current Njudea gpu drivers, maybe thats a good thing.

the entire point of this general is to discuss the latest products and theorycraft pc builds. If you're happy with your poverty-rig, then go make the "third world pc enthusiasts general" and talk about how happy you are with a 4core cpu.

I'm about to build my new PC this weekend, and so I've also got a question about overclocking/undervolting. Should I do it, and how? I know that for RAM I should enable EXPO in BIOS, to the speed on the box (6000mhz, 30cl). For CPU (9800x3D) there is some PBO stuff, right? And for GPU (5070ti), there is something through MSI afterburner? That's pretty much where my knowledge ends. How does it work with warranty?

>>106688879
Right, that's what I'm saying. Unless you're doing niche things like scientific simulations, GPU is your bottleneck, and it's recommended that it be your GPU when running heavy tasks.

genshin wong im not buying your green gpu

>>106688849
>who can say if G Skill 32 GB is going to last longer than TEAMGROUP?
your cpu/motherboard is more likely to burn out/degrade before your ram does
>SSD's which actually go bad
their failure rates are lower than HDDs, but this is a hard-to-quantify metric and any ssd with a dram cache is generally reliable
>AIO brands which can fuck your PC by overheating from failed radiators
thats retarded, also you should have a display panel somewhere on your rig showing temps if you use an AIO, many AIOs display this on the pump itself. This simply shouldnt happen.

The more ram the better, so long as it fits on 2x sticks.
>

This is such a stupid hobby, you guys are going to waste soo much time on made-up, arbitrary information, all the marketing terms, all the specs terms, all the made up syntax, commands and menus and other trivia that someone just made up. Fucking losers, go learn something real like math or physics

>>106688918
>your cpu/motherboard is more likely to burn out/degrade before your ram does
Wrong
>their failure rates are lower than HDDs, but this is a hard-to-quantify metric and any ssd with a dram cache is generally reliable
Who the fuck is running games on HDDs
>AIO
YES WHICH AIO WHICH ONE WHICH ONE WILL FAIL FIRST WHO CAN TELL

>>106688890
why are you projecting?
only thing I have to cope is not turning into a poorfag because I spend all the money on unnecessary garbage.
>Your gpu doesnt even get updates anymore
clearly they are unnecessary, probably just another marketing gimmick to get plebs to ""upgrade""

>>106688926
yet here you are shitposting

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Why didn't you buy AMD

>>106688860
buddy you are playing a game from 2018 designed to run on the absolute garbage 2013 console generation

>>106688962
Why didn't you buy more

>>106688860
Nigga arma is a very light game on GPUs, its mostly CPU/RAM and drive bound. To give an idea, i used to run it with a A10-7850K CPU, 8Gb 2133Mhz ddr3 and an RX 560 off a toshiba HDD and got 20-40 fps on 1080p low settings 2000 meter draw distance. Now i put in a 9600x and 32Gb 6000 cl36 (didnt go with cl30 due to retardation on my part) and still have the rx 560 and still run it off the HDD and im getting 80 FPS with very high settings, MSAA off, 1080p and 4500 meter draw distance. The RX 560 was equivalent to like, a gtx 950 in performance. Your ability to run arma at 4k is irrelevant because just about any entry to midrange GPU made in the last five years can do it

>>106688899
Depending on your mobo you might have PBO and X3D overdrive/boost/whatever-the-fuck. Your mobo manufacturer will probably have a PDF with documentation on what every setting in the BIOS doesin the mobo support page were the manual is, read it, you will learn some nice stuff

9070XT or 5070TI. Just fucking redpill me on one of them boys. Looking to make a purchase very shortly.

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>>106689104
do you trust left or right

>>106689104
Buy the 9070 XT if it's significantly cheaper and if you don't mind setting up FSR4 with Optiscaler.

>>106689104
Do you have $750
the 5070TI

>>106689104
If you only care about gaming then 9070xt is cheaper and has better driver support (nvidia dropped the ball this generation). If you want to generate sloppa and game then get the 5070ti. If you want to do productivity stuff (editing/blender) even a legacy GPU would be enough for 99% of use cases so it doesn't matter. If you want to do game dev then they are equivalent. If you are on linux/planning to go linux then 9070xt is boosted by AMD having really good open source linux drivers that a bunch of giga autists keep up to date at all times.

>>106688890
This

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>>106689104
Nvidia absolutely raped amd this gen

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>>106689104
Nvidia absolutely raped amd this gen
AMD still has no equivalent to the dlss featureset
5070ti is also just straight up faster
Why do you think amd market share is at rock bottom? Expect them to phase out desktop gay-deon gpus soon.

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Nvidia absolutely raped amd this gen. Just look at this... it's insane how much cuckage the radeon troons are having to endure...

>>106688888
>Calls others redditors
>pewdiepie approved
>>>/lgbt/
>>106688860
>arma
>trannypunk
>modern shooters
Like the other anon said, you're coping

exterminate all brandcucks

How much difference does SSD actually make? I'm building a workstation and does SN5000 make a difference vs NV3

>RTX 6060

>>106689376
No one reviews hardware that breaks, are you new?

>>106689376
single most noticeable computer upgrade you can make
SATA vs NVMe SSD is kinda not noticeable
PCIe generation differences are even less noticeable
things to look for are QLC vs TLC (you want TLC for better endurance) and DRAM-less vs DRAM (you want DRAM also for better endurance) - if the specs listed on the website don't tell you those two pieces of information, either do some research or ask ChatGPT to do it for you

>>106689376
If the work involves moving/copying/ingesting large files on a regular basis then a top-end SSD will speed that operation up. If not then it won't make much difference (though secondary concerns like durability are still present).

>does SN5000 make a difference vs NV3
Here you're comparing a TLC model to a QLC one so while the top line performance is broadly similar the NV3 is significantly less durable and significantly slower once SLC caching is exhausted. I wouldn't really recommend QLC for any boot drive but it could be fine for bulk storage or short-term backups.

>>106688899
>Should I do it
you shouldn't do it just because a techtuber told you to
they all make some stupid clickbait video telling you how easy it is so you copy their settings and your system crashes once every 10 minutes
enable EXPO and leave it at that
if you're genuinely interested then of course, go for it
>How does it work with warranty?
the manufacturer can't tell that you've overclocked (i think some threadsrippers blow an efuse when you enable OC mode, but no consumer platform does this AFAIK)
so if you don't tell them it doesn't affect your warranty

>>106689394
Now with 1 (one) CUDA core!

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>>106688888
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo (best budget choice now go and kys)
Me, only complain that Arc has high idle power consumption.
Nvidia invests into Intel, im worrying.

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>>106689260
>>Calls others redditors
>>pewdiepie approved
Pewds is not reddit u dumbfuck nviditroon

>>106688888
brand warring = buck broken faggot retard

>>106688950
Open your eyes its TSMC. Nvidia/AMD is just stickers.

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>>106689232
>>106689244
>>106689253
Kill yourself

>>106689549
AMDrones will really post their latest card getting killed by an even older AMD ewaste card and call it a victory

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>>106688801
>9700X
>MSI PRO B650M-P
Is this mobo good enough? I admittedly don't know what to look for when picking a mobo

>>106689587
>does it have enough usb for your usb
>does it have enough m.2 for your m.2
etc

>>106689608
What does this mean

>>106689633
numbers don't mean anything
they're just there to mess with your head

My current build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Dcg9C
What do you guys think I should change next?

>>106689653
>6400
were you planning on manually tweaking?

>>106689653
What country is this exactly? Why a 4070 super?

>>106689653
This is your current rig or one you plan to buy?
If you already have it, do nothing and come back to us in 2027 unless you want to upgrade your monitor.

>>106689653
That CPU is too powerful for GPU and will be underutilized
Get a 4K OLED

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>>106689544
>>106689576
>>106689608
>>106689658
Kill yourself

>>106689587
Just in case, check the price of 7700 or 7700X. In many regions those are considerably cheaper than 9700X for 5% performance difference.
If IO is good enough for you it's completely serviceable board, but depending on the price you could find better deals.
MSI PRO B650-A WIFI is the same price at least when I looked at pcpartpicker.

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I think all the reported black screens on all the current oled monitors and otherwise are related to VRR
more research will need to be done later

>>106689671
>>106689688
This is my current build that I have
>>106689678
Algeria, tech here is turbo aids to find and expensive, I had to eat pasta for the past 3 months.
I found a 4070 super for reasonably cheap. 4070s ti was like 30%ish more expensive.
>>106689691
I was just traumatized by how bad my last cpu was, an i5 9th gen. The worst is people around gaslighting me into thinking it's a good cpu. I'm never buying intel ever again ever.

>noooooo you don't understand i need the latest gpu to play nigger slop simulator 6 in simulated 4k!!!

>>106689725
>5080 matched by much cheaper 9070 XT and beaten 1fps by last gen even but lets just call that margin of error.
>5070 ti not doing great in this but still not far behind
5080 buyers even if they got it at msrp will go down as the biggest retards of this generation. Literally bought a scam renamed 4080 instead of waitfagging for supers or getting something else.

>>106689747
nice
I've already written off VRR as a whole on all monitors because I'm paranoid about anything vaguely correlated to eye strain and flicker

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>>106689725

>>106689729
> 7700 or 7700X
they cost 30yuro less. prob not worth the downgrade
>IO
I only ever plug ethernet and kb/mouse cables so that should be covered
>WIFI
I specifically looked for something without WIFI because I assume that's just gonna make it cost more. I use a cable connection so I don't care much about that

I am more concerned about possible bottlenecks or cpu incompatibilities. Don't want to return it in case I am not able to flash a new firmware for example

>>106689751
>I was just traumatized by how bad my last cpu was, an i5 9th gen.
How much would you save going to down to a 9600x? Not much point to a 9800x3d unless you have a 5090 at 1440p or are super into esports

>>106689767
just my hypothesis after using the G80SD these past weeks with vrr on, I mistakenly thought I could turn in off in another setting in windows but it did nothing, now it's actually off and not causing black screens

considering people have complained about this in all other monitors too it might be related to other things but idk

considering eye strain would it not be better to have less tearing for your eyes idk

they also say oled has a brightness dip that can trigger people because it's not 100% flicker free in reality, that has nothing compared to when vrr flicker and the brightness flickers non stop, that's extremely noticeable, more than tearing

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Oh boy, Qualcomm's going for the jugular.

>>106689813
It's half the price. too late now though I already pulled the trigger

>>106689839
well at least you're set for another gpu upgrade in the future...

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>>106689836
Same with iGPUs too. Wondering when they'll go an do a desktop class socketable machine. Could obsolete the need to build a new machine on the lower end. No wonder the 50 series is the lowest Nvidia goes now.

>>106689796
If the motherboard didn't get updated UEFI from the manufacturer you would need to use USB flashback function to get at least 7E27v19 UEFI according to MSI support page.
Otherwise motherboard would not boot.
You don't even need to install CPU inside the motherboard to flash UEFI on AM5.
You just need Fat32 or exFat USB stick with UEFI file on it.
But it might just work out of the box if it's later revision.

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>>106689751
>i5 9th gen
That is very bad. Gen 10 through 13 had something to write home about but there's no reason to get Intel unless you find a rare deal on something. Still there is no reason to spend 430$ if you aren't going out with a monitor/other components to match it's potential. Depends what you're doing 3dv cache makes the chip a bit hotter, good if you're gaymaning I guess.

>>106689834
I see

>>106689897
When benchmarking with aida64 and cinebench the hottest I've seen it go was 75
Interestingly, minecraft was the actual hottest I've seen it go at 83 with distant horizon.
Bannerlord and dragon's dogma 2 which are very heavy on cpu stay at around 65. That's fine by me

any wired mice you guys would recommend?
im currently in the market for one since my last mouse just started double clicking (logicuck g203) and I fucking hate wireless mice
preferably something that wont double click, from what I've learned it needs to have optical switches?

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Should I keep this? I'm guessing there's a lot of stock dumping due to the supers releasing.

>>106689960
I'd keep it unless during your return window you find one cheaper used.

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Are you guys interested in Alienware's thinnest model after the giant Area-51m announced at CES 2019 and its Legend industrial design that also expertly walks the line between the sleek simplicity of Razer's Blade 15 and the flashiness of Acer's Predator Triton 900 or Asus' monster Mothership?

Shills used to be subtle

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For those interested I'm seeing several 1440p@240Hz QD-OLEDs for ~$370 shipped on Ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/376408660602?LH_BIN=1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/257122280452?LH_BIN=1
They have 1 or 2 scratches on the outer coating but you can remove it with the damp paper towel method have a pristine screen when all is said and done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pubgeMSAtno

>>106689959
>any wired mice you guys would recommend?
only makes sense if you are going for 4k or 8k polling like that endgame mouse or some shit like that
>double clicking (logicuck g203)
>>106689959
>I fucking hate wireless mice
why
>it needs to have optical switches
no just not omrons, unless they fixed it now a days, but I would avoid
I've used mechanical switches for ages now without problem but the g203 started doubleclicking under a year yes

I'd go wireless if I were u but ok

>>106689453
>>106689467
Thanks, after looking into it I have decided to go with WD Blue since it fits my use case better, it seems like DRAM SSDs are all but extinct.

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Blessed Micro center. Picked up a Gigabyte 5090 Gaming OC for $1999.99 as a bundle with some POS $60 CPU.

Now to see if it has the seeping thermal gel shit and to decide if I want to keep it.

>>106690035
No they didn't
This thread was nice calm and helpful for a while but it seems the deranged shills are back and nobody can be arsed to report them any more

>>106690082
they're still a thing (I bought an SN850X a few months ago), but yeah, there's a pattern at the moment where manufacturers are replacing DRAM with cache more systematically than before

>>106690082
Check prices for the SN7100, their TBW endurance rating matches the SN850X's (1200TB for 2TB models).
A storage drive is something you can carry over to the next PC build.

>>106690152
I see a 20 dollar price difference would you recommend it?

>>106690184
I would get the SN7100, 2TB SN5000's rated endurance is 900 TBW.
https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/internal-drives/wd-blue-nvme-ssd/data-sheet-wd-blue-sn5000-nvme-ssd.pdf
https://documents.sandisk.com/content/dam/asset-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/internal-drives/wd-black-ssd/data-sheet-wd-black-sn7100-nvme-ssd.pdf

Kingston NV3 has the lowest rated endurance (640TB for 2TB model).
https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/SNV3S_us.pdf

>>106690248
>Kingston NV3 has the lowest rated endurance (640TB for 2TB model).
and to think the industry wants to push past QLC into PLC.

>>106689036
Mobo is msi tomahawk x870e. I found the BIOS user guide, but it goes a bit too in-depth and I end up confused. That x3D boost option is for 16 core processors from what I've heard, and game boost is some predefined OC profile that seems to be too aggressive.
>>106689482
Well, techtubers are part of the reason why I consider giving it a try, but the image I got is that rather than just copying their settings, it's more like checking where you fell on the sillicon lottery by doing small changes and checking stability and performance until you hit the limit and then rolling back a bit. (And also why those aren't the defaults, since the settings are based on that particular device not just the model.)
Since it would be my first time trying it, I don't think I want to go into too advanced manual adjustments, just some simple stuff.
Good to know about the warranty.
Thanks.

>>106689933
Benchmarks depend on what cooling and other components are used. 360mm AIO will do better than the dual fan. with that GPU it will stay cool all the time Id still be getting like a 7900xtx at that price if ray tracing doesn't bother you

>>106690124
>Now to see if it has the seeping thermal gel shit and to decide if I want to keep it.
microshitter wageslave here
unlikely, we haven't seen any new gigabyte thermalpad issues on new card stock

Should I upgrade from a 3060 TI 8gb to 5060 TI 16gb?

I'm a poorfag yes.

>>106690367
depends on what you're using it for

>>106690367
If only for gayming nope.
~30% more performance isn't worth it.

>>106690393
I guess I'll just keep saving

>>106690367
not worth

>>106690367
just don't buy GPUs period, it's not worth it

>>106690367
If you care about rt performance or framegen sure
Otherwise a 5070 would probably be the minimum for a good jump.

Anyone have a recommendation for a good standing desk? I'm 6'2". My current desk is 70 inches x 36, but I suspect thats way too big for a standing desk (or rather might cost even more for such a thing). I'm willing to go smaller, though that means I"ll have to sacrifice one of my three monitors I bet.

>>106690362
Based, good to know.

I figure I cant beat the price for one of the better models at actual 5090 MSRP. Been scouting them out for nearly 2 months now.

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Brand new pc and everything boots fine into windows and I get display with the placeholder microsoft driver. But the second I install any nvidia driver for my 5070 ti doesn't matter what version this is what fucking happens and I have to switch to the igpu to DDU and make this shit stop. Am I cooked? What can I do?

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>https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-tridentz-rgb-series-16gb-ddr4-3600-cas-latency-cl16-desktop-memory-black/p/N82E16820232491
is ts bussin or nah fr? i9-10900k rime z490-v
what does CAS Latency mean and does it matter?

>>106690983
You have a week before a Japanese girl crawls out of it and kills you

>>106690811
>though that means I"ll have to sacrifice one of my three monitors I bet.
Get a triple mount, problem solved. What size are they?

>>106691019
One is vertical at 28 . The primary middle one is 32. And the third horizontal is 23.

>>106691001
$159 for 16 GB is not bussin
if you're gonna get B-die buy it used

>>106690367
If you're gonna buy that RAM
get the 2x16GB set for 60 dollars cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jxH8TW/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtzrc

>>106690983
That's the NVIDIA homosexual filter. It does that when it detects a gay user.

>>106688888

based pentas do we have anime character for ryzen arc schizo

>>106689725
post yours

>>106690983
update the BIOS if you haven't already

My desktop has a i9900k and even though it's pretty good there are like 5 new generations of cpus that have come out since then. Is it worth getting a new cpu and motherboard with ddr5 ram for my next build? I could probably get older parts for cheaper. I really just need something that's reliable and power efficient.

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>>106691105
Yoshida chan is schizo enough to think she is an angel. So an intel amd system would be the fallen angels pc of choice for sure.

>>106691207
*Yoshiko screw u baka autocorrect.

>>106690811
If you don't have infinite money just get a flexispot. If you have infinite money deskhause.

>>106690983
rma
Never seen that happen with a dead card but that's the only thing I can think of
>>106691163
Prices are low enough that for lga 1700 you might as well do ddr5. Second hand ddr5 boards are cheaper than ddr4.
1851 + am5 are ddr5 only
AM4 and whatever intels socket was aren't worth buying anymore

>>106690983
You have to give someone else the gpu within a week or you will die.

>>106691244
I dont have infinite money cause Im not jewish, but I do make a lot of money.

>>106691041
Hmm, might be a bit harder to found mounts given one is a 32" but should be doable depending on the weight

>>106691253
Then just get the nice 4 leg flexispot. Do you like the desk part of your current desk? You could just order the frame and attach it to your current desk. If not depending on the desk material you can get one almost as big as the one you have now.
https://www.flexispot.com/flexispot-4-leg-standing-desk-e7plus

>>106691066
killing myself meant to send this one
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-tridentz-rgb-series-32gb-ddr4-3600-cas-latency-cl16-desktop-memory-black/p/N82E16820232906

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>>106691284
I got one of those big wooden office desks that look kinda like this. Pretty hefty.

>>106691305
Might be worth saving, could you use a desk somewhere else in the house? If not are you handy enough to take off the bottom part?

>>106691317
I did put it together myself. I have no issue removing stuff, but yeah I would rather move it elsewhere.

Deciding between the Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 XT and the ASUS TUF Gaming 5070TI. Really tough to choose.

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>>106691359
If u support njudea in 2025 u are helping destroy gaming and need to kys. Really as simple as that.

>>106691359
Get the cheaper one if you're happy with either, guessing this isn't US prices.

>>106691379
i wish lisa su was my mommy
in all meanings of the word

>>106691359
The 5070ti is probably better for 1440 and 4k gaming, or RT if thats your thing, otherwise get the cheaper of the two. The nitro+ is not worth the extra price for a 9070 xt-- you're better off getting a cheaper more generic version

I sold my GTX 1070 8GB but I forgot to uninstall the drivers before selling. Will my PC have issues when I put my RTX 3060 12GB in?

>>106691422
It should be fine, especially if you kept the drivers updated.

>>106691422
Probably not from Nvidia -> Nvidia, it's usually a problem if you switch sides

i am a burger
where can i get a herman miller aeron used for cheap and not get scammed?

>LCDs last foreve- ACK!
https://youtu.be/Chcwz5LYiHs

>>106691379
Really as simple as this:
nico nico ni

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>>106691013
>>106691252
Kek
>>106691103
Shut up bitch
>>106691124
Forgot to say but I updated the motherboard to the latest via the flashback thingy on the back before I ever even put the gpu in.
>>106691251
>rma
I could but I'm still in the return period even so I think I'll just do that instead and get my money back. I paid 800$ so 50 over msrp for this piece of shit and now that I've been burnt I think I will get a 9070 XT instead since I see them drop sometimes for 650 only in my country.

>>106691379
It's not my job to support an inferior product

>>106691379
maybe people would buy them if they weren't trash products for gooks and indians.

>>106691461
I run at 15% brightness, don't think LEDs burning out will be an issue.

Bought a Lancool 217, hopefully I will never need to buy a case again.

>>106690432
you're a dumb retarded reddit nigger

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>>106691379
I would never buy nvidia but surely you understand that anons here don't matter
in fact, nvidia doesn't need reddit's support either, and will still make enough money to rule the world no matter what we do at this point

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Can anyone help me troubleshoot what's wrong with this old PC? It powers on but the monitor just says to "Check input or cables." I tried the same monitor and cables on another PC and they all work.

Ignore the GPU, I've got the monitor plugged into the HDMI port in the mobo for integrated graphics. The PSU has only three pigtails-- mobo, cpu and gpu.

>>106691779
as long as they have a monopoly on shit like supersampling and frame generation support in games then nothing will change

>>106691747
Great choice, hope it works out for you that's the one I'm aiming for if something better doesn't come along in the next few years.

>>106691800
at this point the issue is probably at the integrated gpu?

>>106691800
have you tried using the ports on the GPU or alternatively taking out the GPU and then using the motherboard port?

About to retire my 4790k, should I repurpose it into a media server or give it away to a friend?

>>106691896
sure

>>106691800
the mobo's display out often doesn't work unless there's no GPU plugged in

>>106691858
That was the problem. Plugged it back into the GPU and got the boot screen, thanks.
I feel like a total retard since I'm sure that's the first configuration I tried, maybe I had a different cable though, since I know I had a bad HDMI cable kicking around for a while.

Thinking about just falling for the prebuilt meme to replace my tower that's going on 8 years old. Either that or having MicroCenter build one for me, but I don't know if that'd be more cost effective than just buying a prebuilt from them.

>>106691911
>>106691875
Thanks guys, I'll keep that in mind too, I've got like three of these old/possibly broken PCs I've been trying to get going.

Should I just go with LGA 1200 for my intel media server build since LGA 1700 had issues?

>>106691965
lga1700 with 12th gen cpu should be fine

>>106688849
RAM brand doesn't matter it's all the same dies

>>106689725
I'd feel like a retard buying anything weaker than a 4090

>troonsisters tell me I HAVE to buy AMD
>check the benchmarks
>only NVIDIA on top in every game
If AMD wanted my money they'd make the best card

>>106692085
You can just get a 1080ti refurbished for cheap and it plays everything lol

Anon from earlier, still undecided. Buying a graphics card tonight, either 5070TI or 9070XT. Any owners here? What are the current drivers like?

>>106692164
plays everything 6 years ago maybe

>>106692164
>getting a card worse than a 5050
are pascal bagholders this buck broken?

>>106692172
only buy PooMD if they're over $100 cheaper

>>106692194
It's $180 USD difference between the two but I don't really care about the price, more about the quality of the drivers and support. Nvidia is obviously more popular, but the 9070 XT looks good to me as well

>>106692230
NVIDIA will be supported for longer, AMD always drops driver support early

>>106692236
Went with the 5070Ti, thanks.

>>106692230
I'm in the same boat but it's $100 difference for me.

>>106692164
I got a Zotac 2080ti I got like 4-5 years ago from a VR business that went bankrupt. It plays whatever I want on 1440p, until it stops doing this I will hold onto it...

>>106691965
It's only raptor lake that had issues, which are fixed now. And realistically it was mostly the i9s before the microcode updates.
>>106692230
Well you sure as fuck don't want AMD then.
On top of that RDNA 1, 2, and 3 (lol) have aged insanely bad compared to their NVIDIA counterparts.
>but muh fsr4 leak
Not comparable to dlss still, also too heavy to be used outside of flagship cards.

>>106692152
What I don't get is why AMD owners think we care about them at all. Like, bro, make a GPU better than a 4090 and then we can talk. it's not even a race.

>>106692269
Turing was so fucking based. Insane how well the lineup with 8gb+ has aged, forget the poorfag cope 1080ti.

>>106692273
they're still buck broken from when the first 4090 benchmarks released

>AyyMD releasing 4 core ryzen 3 5100
let that stupid fucking socket die already

>>106692273
3090/4090 I've read tend to die more often.

>>106692290
3090 yes because ampere had shit power delivery but 4090 no

and costs more monie.

yes the card that is 80% faster costs more

Buying a 9070 over a 5070 or a 9070xt over a 5070ti/5080 (overall worst high end card that I can remember btw) is like buying a 5700 over a 2070. You're going to fucking regret it so hard, while we nvidia kings laugh at you and stomp on your baby sized testicles.

>>106692318
there's a reason only amd has a buyers remorse emotional support group on Reddit

Is going from a 3070 to a 5070ti a decent enough jump? I mainly play stuff at 1440p and it's starting to feel like the 3070 isn't enough anymore on some games

>>106692330
sure

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>>106692273
>We don't care about gayymd radeon bag holders at all!! fuck ayymd!!!
>like a dozen spam shitposts crying about radeon by the same two or three niggers all in a row unprompted
yeah sure

>>106692330
it's a 90%~ increase in performance

do you still need to log into the 'nvidia experience' thing?

>>106692356
you dont need to log in to the new nvidia app

>nicotroon accusing anyone else of spamming

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>>106692370
no spamming at all lately from me. im employed now even and have work in the morning so u can keep crying in here im gonna go get ready for bed sweetie.

if you were employed you'd be enjoying NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 on a 4K OLED not poorjeet coping

>>106692431
it makes me extremely disappointed in myself that i even for a moment considering actually doing this.

Where are the tierlists for mice and keyboards? I need to replace mine but I'm definitely not gonna follow gaytube or plebbit advice.

>>106692441
It's an amazing experience

>>106692452
i believe you

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>>106692385
>im employed now even
fucking lol, this is the average radeon shill btw.

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>>106692441
>>106692458
Do not get shilled. 1440p oled and 9070 xt gets you 90 percent of the way there. The literal thousands you save will be able to be spent on things that can more noticeably improve your quality of life everyday. Such as hundreds of cases of beer and whiskey bottles.

>>106692474
i dont drink anymore :(

>>106692431
I'm from what you could call "old money" and use a 5070 + only va monitors :)

>>106692450
Nothing wrong with those places, most of them are much better at giving you info for such things.
But the default choice for keyboards if you don't know anything is Keychron. There's also cheaper options on amazon from chink brands. Some are decent. Mice are much more personal, check out rocketjumpninja and boardzy on youtube to help you figure out what kind of mouse is good for you. Also eloshapes.com

Ordered all my parts, thanks to the anons who've helped me over the last few days. Excited for the build! :D

>>106692450
I don't know of a tier list, but in general I've noticed that it's super cheap to get genuinely good mechanical keyboards now. Just buy some chink thing for $50 and call it a day.
Been using the same mouse for 12 years now I think so I can't give any tips on that (it's a corsair harpoon)

>>106692486
>VA
foul

my 6 year old G502 is double clicking like a motherfucker now. RIP little buddy. anyways anyone have mouse recommendations?
>roughly 8 inch length by 4 1/4 inch width hand but with skinny feminine fingers
>claw grip
>mainly browsing the internet, FL studio, and playing MOBAs, first person shooters casually
>never had an issue with the G502 in terms of shape and comfort (probably cuz i've been using it for 6 years)
>never really used the extra buttons on my current mouse or felt like i needed more
currently looking at the razer deathadder v3 pro, viper v3 pro, asus keris II ace

>>106692590
op1 we or the wired 8k version

Best value nvme ssd?

>b850 mobo, 9800x3d
>have 2x16gb ram
>get same kit as original (cl30, 6000)
>boots at 3600
>fails to boot at 6000
>force it to profile2 5600 with 40/40/40/40 timings
>locks in bios
>freezes in windows too
>try 1.35 instead of 1.2v
>still locks up
Damn, really will have to just buy a brand new 2x32gb kit then huh.

>>106692762
you need to play with your memory controller. it's gonna need more juice

>>106688901
You know your entire computer is a "scientific simulation" right? all the 1s and 0s go through the cpu.

>>106690068
>>106692597
isnt 8k polling rate and absolute meme that doesn't even work properly?
I've also been looking at mice, why is wireless the main option now? I've had nothing but issues in the last couple of years with wireless
fucking jews circumcised keyboards and now they got mice too

>>106692930
8khz polling is a meme if the game engine can’t handle it usually, minecraft being one of them. otherwise it’s just a millisecond diff in shooting earlier granted you have the reaction time to play with. i have the op1 8k myself and limited it to 2khz polling to get rid of stutters and i like the ability to drag click on it.

>>106692762
if it makes you feel any better, my x870e board just werks

>>106692762
yes you should. i dont get why boards still ship with 2 dimms per channel or 4 slots when they dont work well most of the time. it should only be an option for specific workstation boards for the handful of people that needs 192/256gb ram on am5/lga1851

>>106692699
lexar nm790

Best ergonomic gaming mice?

my 7900xtx vram is shitting the bed its a 2yr pulse+
is it worth getting faster ram maybe doing a 48gb mod? Anyone done something similar?

>>106693151
logitech b100
>>106693157
not enough vram capacity or it's too slow?

>>106693157
I thought there's no higher spec than 20gbps gddr6? Just replace it with the same amount. 48gb would require a modded PCB with clamshell memory support which I doubt exists outside of the workstation W7900

>>106693017
I agree It can be usable, but why pay for 8k polling just to set it back?
I actually wanted the 4k version but it was no longer available
Hopefully it isnt like keyboards in which most manufacturers dont even have a full size option and mice manufacturers keep making wired mice

>>106693263
simply because it’s all in software anyways, so why should it matter? the mouse is light as hell anyways so arm fatigue shouldn’t be as bad compared to a ~104g mouse from almost a decade ago. m

>>106693179
blast

What are your biggest PC purchase regrets?

>>106693168
for gaming/vr 4k-8k

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Why does the OP content keep changing every thread?

>>106693304
>Gigabyte gaming OC 1080ti
>Hot and loud, also no dlss and poor dx12 support
>Asus z690 apex
>Botched channel A that's maxes out at 6200mhz (common issue)
>Gskill 6000 cl36 2x16gb ram
>Samsung b die unstable garbage. Not even stable at jedec
>Asus rtx4090 gaming OC
>Insane coil whine

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>>106693304
Wishing I had saved and bought the Corsair 1000D instead of the Phanteks Mini Luxe XL. At the time it was fine but graphics cards heatsinks have gotten Xboxhueg now and trying to find one that will fit without hitting the SFX power supply is proving challenging. Idgaf about length, the drive bays are removable.

>TFW can't help but like gimmicky bullshit like pic related.

>>106693304
>What are your biggest PC purchase regrets?
Bought a more expensive 5070ti and have felt bad about it the entire time. I didn't pay any scalper prices or anything, but I could have bought an msrp 5080 if I waited. I've wasted more money on things I've used less, but for some reason I still feel bad about it even though that was around when it launched.

>>106693336
theres an amd schizo that takes over the op every now and then, hes been more subtle on the op in recent weeks
if you need to know the difference
the 5070ti is also considered in the high range 4k, iirc its because the money you spend for a 5080 given the difference in performance isnt worth it
for cpu, the intel part that is missing is
>Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 12600KF budget, 14600K midrange)
now that I look at it the cases have some of them missing and the cooler has the phantom spirit which is worse than the peerless assassin V3
even the fucking ram is incomplete since it doesn't have the Intel suggestions
only ssd and case fans were left unmolested by the schizo

>>106693374
5070ti isnt that ba-
>boughteded at launch
>missed msrp 5080
ok, I see you pain
maybe fafo with overclocking it just so the cope isnt as bad

>>106693304
Bought a 750w power supply instead of 850w in 2022, because now I'm cucked out of the possibility of upgrading to rtx 3080ti/4080 because njudea is a faggot rat company whi can't do power delivery right

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>>106693403
Yep, tuning it was one of the first things I did to cope haha. Did get quite a bit more out of it. I'll be paying to use someone's bot to pick up a 6090 and selling this when there's a shortage again though, so nbd.

>>106693395
Oh the love live guy? I thought he was gone by now

So the last OP is the non-schizo one then?

>>106693478
pretty much yeah

>AMD ROCm 6.4.4 Brings PyTorch Support On Windows
Is anything going to change?

I'll never be putting a 12V cable in my system. It's rancid dogshit. I'll just keep using my 7900XTX until I die. If a standard isn't good it has to be terminated even if it hurts the feelings of spergful engineers that know less than a first year trainee electrician.

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>>106693395
>the cooler has the phantom spirit which is worse than the peerless assassin V3
You don't know what you're talking about. Phantom Spirit has 7 heatpipes while the Assassin only has 6. Thanks for showing my OP is superior since I actually have pc knowledge unlike you plebs from r/nvidia.

>>106693543
anon almost all of your cables are 12v

>>106693609
Maki!

>>106693304
Poorfagging a 1660 back then and if I remember right I boughted it at a time when the Super was available. Whatever my financial situation was back then, should have coughed up a little more for the Super instead.

Got a replacement case once for the above machine that was no-name brand. It had an acrylic front panel with a mediocre grate slit on one side of the front and a hole at the bottom. Problem with this bad-airflow case is that it was about 1cm from being a no-airflow case, that's how close the solid acrylic was to the frame of a standard 120 fan. And no, the I/O's wiring and website's images made it clear that the fans were meant to be mounted to the front of the mounting bracket rather than its rear, not that it would have helped the case breathe very much. Had to pop off the acrylic and fabricate my own mesh front and drilled additional holes in the plastic to make it functional, but after all that effort it became very functional. Did I even regret getting to play with DIYing a case?

>>106693613
goddamn jews
makes no sense when laptops have been using 19v forever

>>106689959
I recently bought the endgame gear xm2 8k. It has the best latency according to rtings tests and mechanical switches. The 8k polling feature is nice to have but some games choke on it so I use 1k polling.

>>106693732
Most games cannot use 8k and it can introduce DPC latency.

>>106693609
the cfm is worse on the spirit you retard
the extra heatpipe does fuck all when the fans it has are worse even by slight margin to the pa se v3
I would've agreed with you if it was the evo
and Maki is a whore

>>106693304
Buying a TN monitor in 2018. Fucking awful decision. I eventually settled on OLED's in 2020 and have been good ever since.

>>106693915
so put different fans on it?

Clean your mouse pads, it's dead simple.

>get dish soap (I use dawn)
>lather it on a soft sponge
>completely wet mousepad
>scrub it down for a good 5 minutes
>wash off and throw in dryer for 10-15 minutes

I thought mine was beyond saving but it looks brand new now.

>>106693939
I don't use a mouse pad.

>>106693921
let me guess gayman 144hz?

i buyed tn gayman lg gl600 back in 18

>>106693543
i don't think AMD forces manufacturers to use a flawed design for 12VHPWR (with no current balancing)
but sapphire and asrock still managed to fuck it up lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HjnByG7AXY

>>106693945
*clunk* *clunk* *thonk* *clunkkck* *thonk*

>>106694014
I run my mouse on 7500DPI. I barely move my wrist, mostly just slight finger/palm shifts.

>>106693931
>buy a cooler
>throw away half of it

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So I plan on saving up to upgrade my Rx 6600xt to an rtx card for blender renders and animations, but the cards I've been researching are all confusing on what's the best price to performance wise.

I'm looking to save around $500-600, and the majority of them have been around the same price, so if anyone can help recommend which one I should buy I'd appreciate it

>>106694236
im not seeing the problem. its probably because iv had the same set of noctua industrials for 12 years so maybe im out of touch.

>>106694374
might as well buy a noctua cooler in that case
also how's the industrials' noise outside of max speed

>>106690367
I second this >>106690540, 5070 is the minimum worthwhile upgrade

>>106694401
i run them at 400rpm most of the time and they are just barely audible. my curves max put at 1300rpm and thats edging close to annoying.

>>106694027
I use 800 at some moderate measure of Windows sensitivity, I cannot imagine exactly how wild 7500 would be.

>>106694613
I move my cursor vertically mostly by bending/extending my thumb. Getting from top to the bottom of the screen is bending the thumb from full extension to around 90 degrees, maybe a bit under. Horizontally, moving the cursor across two screens requires moving the mouse about 2cm.

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>>106693915
>Doubles down on being wrong
>Calls the pure little red angel a whore
Just fucking kys faggot

>>106694757
I just remembered I brainfarted and it's 1800. Even so I don't move it much either. To be 4x doesnt even seem like it would match up with thumb movement, unless windows sens is minimum and accel off.

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>>106694923
Mouse acceleration is disabled, sensitivity at medium.

>>106692474

isnt text awful on OLED compared to IPS?

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Is now a good time to buy a 7800x3d and 9070 XT combo or should I wait?

>>106695015
how cheap

>>106695015
7800x3d yes
9070xt maybe

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>>106695015
when in doubt, wait some more

>>106695028
630€ for the gpu and 350€ for the 7800x3d.

>>106695036
thanks

>>106695043
I have been waiting since 2016 (I love my gtx1080)

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>>106688950
I did buy AMD though

>>106695015
I bought 7800X3D + X670E mobo for 480€ last week.
9800X3D is only slightly faster and not worth it unless you are sleeping on cash.
I think those aren't getting much more cheaper than that, GPU situation is more complicated.
FSR is finally usable so 9070XT should last you a while.
Depending how much extra is 5070Ti for you, it's also valid option.

>>106695095
I just watched the hardwareunboxed q&a video where they talked about the super cards and it made me think that maybe i should wait and see, same with black friday coming up. which mobo did you go for?

>>106695117
do you need more than 16gb vram?

>>106689763
>renamed 3080
FTFY

>>106695117
I bought MSI X670E Gaming Plus Wifi, it was as cheap as B850 boards.
I wanted 4x m.2 and a lot of USB A mostly.
PCI-E 5.0 is just a bonus.
If you are going to wait for nV refresh expect higher prices and little performance gain.

When is the next Ryzen series coming out?
Or should I buy a 9700X instead?

The PSU in my 10 year old PC seems to be dying, what do I need to look at to replace it, just the wattage and the rating or have there been any major hardware changes in the meantime that would cause incompatibility with new PSUs that I need to look out for

>>106695161
No release date for Zen6.
So next year is the most likely.
Check the price of 7700 or 7700X, I grabbed 7700 for my friend for 180€ last week so those are significantly cheaper than 9700X. 7800X3D are also only ~50€ more expensive than those Zen5 8 cores.

>>106695178
Only the wattage. Connectors haven't changed in 10 years, only 12V-2X6 was added but PSUs still come with 6+2 PCIe cables.

>>106695161
Q2 2026 for mobile and non-3d zen6
Maybe a quarter later for X3D zen6

>>106695178
Get one that advertises atx3.1 support for the new 12vhpwr connector used on newer Nvidia GPUs and also make sure it has enough connectors for the 8-pin pcie plug used on older GPUs if you have one

What's a good cpu cooler under 138mm? Preferably on that doesn't block ram slots and/or has the fan facing upward like the stock cooler.

>>106695518
peerless assassin mini (135mm)
double check your measurements though

do you guys (in the EU mainly) buy tray or box cpus? the one i'm looking at is currently 40€ less

>>106695638
Whatever is cheaper, usually tray.
I get 3 year warranty anyway.

>>106695518
Tower is always better than blowdown and they make single and double towers short enough for your case. Peerless Assassin 120 Mini should fit, if you want more headroom you can go for the Peerless Assassin 90 instead (smaller fan but it's fully covered by the fin stack).
If budget isn't a concern, Noctua have their own 92mm options that are marginally better but twice as expensive.

>>106695638
box

>>106695675
What is the noctua on called?

>>106695752
NH-D9L and NH-U9S. U9S is the better rated one even though it's single tower.

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which one do I buy...
the numbers above are the price in yuro
the first one looks like a great deal, but
>170W
isn't that a housefire mode?
also are the scores accurate?

>>106695837
Do you do more gaming or productivity?

>>106695837

aircooled be 9 7900 obviously

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>>106695846
I'm upgrading mostly for gaming. I'm currently using this bad boy and it works great for doing my job.

>>106695837
What are you going to use the CPU for?
7xxxX SKUs have stupid default TDP you should set it manually.
Those scores are worth nothing.

>>106695880
9800x3D is the best gaming processor right now, but it's only slightly better (single digit percentages usually) than the 7800x3D which is typically far cheaper.

>>106695925
I've heard that the X3D CPUs are the best too, but the benchmarks and the numbers bait me every time. Idk who to believe...

I can get 9800X3D for 510€
7800X3D for 382€

>>106695957
Look up 7800X3D tray prices, those should be around 300€.
Benchmarks never show the full story, you can also buy cheap RAM with X3D because it barely makes any difference.

>>106695957
it's the "best" only in synthetic benchmarks where the GPU isn't stressed at all. in real life gaming there's like 1fps difference. some simulation autism games might be exception.

>>106694985
you almost dont notice how bad it is after a few weeks of using it

>>106693304
5700XT Mech OC that I bought in March 2020. It was such a piece of shit that would overheat, stutter and crash in games constantly. Glad I sold it and bought my 3070 at launch in October of that same year, but in the meantime I had to rely on my aging 1660.

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Is timetec ddr4 any good? Looking to get 128 gigs for my am4 server so it doesn't need to be blazing fast gaymur memory, it just has to be cheap and not dogshit.

>>106693609
>>106694903
The new fans can push the same amount of air at lower RPMs.
You won't notice whatever minor thermal improvement of the extra heatpipe, but you will notice the improved operating noise of the new fans.

>>106693931
You buy Thermalright because it's a budget-friendly option; buying replacement fans defeats the purpose of getting a Thermalright cooler.

>>106696049
As long as it has the specs you need, should be fine.

>>106695973
>it's the "best" only in synthetic benchmarks where the GPU isn't stressed at all. in real life gaming there's like 1fps difference. some simulation autism games might be exception.
Imagine posting this and feeling smug about being flat out wrong

>>106696137
yeah its ok to say it isn't worth the extra cost, but to deny it being significantly better just reeks of cope

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How are my PC specs for gaming in 2025/2026?

>>106688801
i was planning to buy a 2 tb nvme ssd next year or during christmas
is the "ssd/dram prices are going to increase by 30% soon" thing real and should i consoom now instead? or is it perhaps just some jew fomo shit and nothing ever happens?

>>106696406
You shouldn't waitfag too long with SSDs, this is a popular component for normies & non-gamers.

>>106696443
>You shouldn't waitfag too long with SSDs
don't they normally go down in price over time?
if I don't strictly need one now, why wouldn't I wait another year when it's going to be cheaper?
the 60€ 500 gb crucial mx500 I got 4 years ago only costed half as much just a year later
I understand prices aren't getting halved yearly now but still I don't see your logic

>>106696469
NTA, looking at prices of KC3000 where I'm from, they were cheaper last year than rn.

>>106696405

has anything came after cyber punk 77 should be okay good

>>106696126
DDR4 and 32gb per dimm is all I really need. My biggest concern is it being unreliable shit that could cause random problems or even worse data corruption during operations.

>>106696469
>the 60€ 500 gb crucial mx500 I got 4 years ago only costed half as much just a year later
Because you're citing an extraordinary period where NAND manufacturers were selling oversupplied chips at a loss.

>>106696577
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>>106696469
Crucial is owned by Micron FYI.

>>106696405
>1600
How did you miss a $140 5700X3D ?

>>106696542
>I understand prices aren't getting halved yearly now but still I don't see your logic
>>106696615
...i know that, it's literally written inside their logo, I have working eyes.
I'm not planning on buying a crucial ssd and have no idea how this is relevant to this discussion, the stuff you're citing literally says it's something that would affect the entire market, and is from early 2023, ssds have still gotten cheaper since then.

>>106696681
he can still hop on the 90$ 5700x bandwagon
or 70$ 5600x too
sure not as good as an x3d but already 10x better than a 1600 and someone that hasn't upgraded since then problably doesn't care about that extra 20% performance either
he should also consider enabling xmp

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>>106697110
>ssds have still gotten cheaper since then.
No, they haven't. Those all-time lows are not coming back.

>>106697163
i'm clearly talking about average prices rather than "the all time low of 2 years ago that barely lasted 3 months", how many times do I have to repeat this concept?
the graph you're showing literally proves my point, this particular samsung ssd has gotten on average like 15-20% cheaper compared to september of last year, and even more compared to march/may of last year
again, i fail to see what your fucking point is.

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>>106697252
>i'm clearly talking about average prices
You mentioned the MX500 price being halved from 60€ in >>106696469 , that's near all-time low pricing, and it's not coming back.

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>>106697252
>this particular samsung ssd has gotten on average like 15-20% cheaper compared to september of last year
It was costlier last year. Amazon's price isn't tracked in PCPartPicker, but their competitors price-matching history gives you accurate information.

>>106697294
holy fucking shit
have you tried maybe, reading the rest of that post?
I already repeated this in >>106697110
i'll write it in all caps to help you in case you are just completely fucking blind:
I UNDERSTAND PRICES AREN'T GETTING HALVED YEARLY NOW BUT STILL I DON'T SEE YOUR LOGIC
"ssds are still getting cheaper" doesn't mean they have to get a 50% discount every year for that to be true jesus fucking christ

>>106697336
>It was costlier last year.
exactly, so it has gotten cheaper.
> Amazon's price isn't tracked in PCPartPicker, but their competitors price-matching history gives you accurate information.
the graph you're showing still shows every ssd is trending downwards so once again no idea what you're trying to say here.

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>>106697378
It's a +/- $10 price difference on average over the past year.
Buy one if there's a $20 discount from the average.

>>106692930
>that doesn't even work properly
if you have a shit platform with bad usb ports that can't handle 8k polling yep

>>106693017
>i have the op1 8k myself and limited it to 2khz polling to get rid of stutters
poozen mobos were notorious for having so shit usb that people were blaming the x3d cpus when on intel it worked
turns out it's the usb after all

>>106694985
buy 4k

>>106692450
keyboarding wooting
mouse whatever floats your boat

simple as

>>106692431
unironically right 4k oleds are cheap compared to the 5090 thou