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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Traitor Edition

>News
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2
Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821
OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5

additional info: https://aicg.miraheze.org/?action=history

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://jannyai.com
https://char-archive.evulid.cc

>Models
jailbreaks: https://aicg.miraheze.org/Jailbreaks?action=history
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg

>Botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
lore: https://aicg.miraheze.org/Chronicles?action=history
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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Never download a bot linked in this thread. Get bots from these sites or make your own:
https://chub.ai/search?sort=trending
https://chub.ai/search?sort=random
https://realm.risuai.net/
https://jannyai.com/
These people won't be able to weaponize the attention you give them against the thread, unlike the botmakers that you find here.
Hit them where it hurts by taking away the little pond/big fish effect they need.
Kill them with indifference.
Spit on their corpses.
They're parasites.
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slop
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>>106718323
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furina's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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smooth.
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Is it true this general is just a schizo shitting ground where one guy can trollbake and nobody stops him? Why? Isn't Desufag supposed to stop this?
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>>106718323
>>106718328
ANCHOR
>ANCHOR
ANCHOR
>ANCHOR
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>>106718398
>>>/vg/
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>>106718397
>and nobody stops him?
what can you do? bake on page 5 before he does? and then he bakes anyway, and then the catalog gets clogged with aicg threads
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>>106718449
>>106718449
>>106718449
Real thread.
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>>106718328
Those sites are fulled with uncurated low effort trash.
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>>106718365
This is borderline false marketing. Everyone knows that GLM4.5 takes a nosedive once you go beyond 8k context
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>>106718470
>fulled
hello sir!
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>>106718473
>This is borderline false marketing. Everyone knows that GLM4.5 takes a nosedive once you go beyond 8k context
spreading false infromation now claudefaggot
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>>106718446
You can just go back to /vg/? They have all the links you want in the OP.
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>>106718485
Well, this is provided that you can read well enough to catch the outrageous amount of repetition and dip on creativity that sneaks its way into all replies post-8k context. If you enjoy the model regardless, that is great for you.
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>>106718470
It doesn't matter. The quality comes from the model. There's no difference between "low effort trash" and whatever "high-quality" bot you're thinking of.
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>>106718473
uhm sweaty?
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>go to chub.ai
>filter by SFW
>see if theres any card with some interesting concept to chat with
>its all goonslop anyway
What a boring community
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>>106718516
unless you're looking for a gacha character and it's [Character] with gigantic mega futacock (sparkle)
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>>106718489
ZASED
>>>/vg/540611817
>>>/vg/540611817
>>>/vg/540611817
>>>/vg/540611817
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>>106718537
OH NONONONO DONT SEE THIS IMAGE CLAUDEFAGS
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We need a cultural reset. Cleanse all posters who used to be here and invite only newfags. All oldfags can go to /vg/.
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>>106718516
So why make bots at all? Just say {{char}} is gachaslut #1092 from gachagame #823 and the LLM will know it.
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>>106718537
ermmm... where's opus 3??? wasn't it like le epik SOVL llm or something like that??? did aicg lie to me????????
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>>106718537
Roleplaying is not longform creative writing though. Making an entire book not slop takes a lot more planning than making a nice response as {{char}}
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>>106718537
>llm-judged
worthless
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>>106718577
You make bots to give them bigger tits. It's just about preference. And those sites have everything you can think of. A bot being posted in 4chan doesn't make it high-quality, it's just the "little pond, big fish" crap except all those people are traitors.
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>>106718577
Because the bots are for personalizing your interpretation of that character so that you can get maximum personal enjoyment.
That's why there's so many "character but she has a big fat futa cock" or "character but she's a pedo and you're a shota" cards.
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>>106718323
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>>106718537
>benchmemes
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>>106718602
So the model shows the lowest degradation even at the harder task. Your point?
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>>106718679
My point is you should just look at the "slop" metric, which opus wins at.
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>>106718701
>>106718679
>>106718537
What even is slop meter?
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>>106718365
Hyp-
>that blogpost
Grim. Finetune of an instruct model? They couldn't even hide the mix-of slop in their images. And then there's the loss of sampler & lorebook features made up only with the "writer's toolbox" which seems to be no more sophisticated than Guided Generations. What a fucking letdown. And I had been just wondering if we'd ever see a nice base model finetune for storyfags.
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Didn't you get the memo?
We all moved to /vg/aicg/.
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>>106718365
does glm really have 28k tokens of memory or did they cripple it?
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>>106718739
I think it's just about repetitive words. It's explained somewhere in this guy's profile, or maybe in the about section of that site.
https://xcancel.com/sam_paech/status/1910346895110848553#m
>It calculates a value representing how many words in the test model's output match words that are over-represented in typical language model writing. We compute the list of "gpt slop" words by counting the frequency of words in a large dataset of generated stories
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>>106718786
>does glm really have 28k tokens of memory or did they cripple it?
ArliAI has GLM with 128k tokens of context
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>>106718800
besides trembles, flicker*, tilts, unravels and twitched (which I don't have a synonym for), I'm surprised I don't see these words as much in my rps
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>>106718739
How often it says isms. Less isms might also mean the model really understands the story so it doesn't need to fall back to the same words.
Degradation is probably how worse the story is at the end? Claude often makes really shitty long stories, with "the council" endlessly arguing about things and stuff, but that doesn't matter if you guide the story.
The score metric might be the best actually, but it's still llm judged.
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>>106718810
why did they cripple it? people already abusing their subscription quotas?
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>>106718841
>why did they cripple it? people already abusing their subscription quotas?
NO idea, when ArliAI

who is a SEA guy with mulitple gpus allows people to have 128k context, its weird novel ai chose 28k
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Does /vg/ use Claude Opus or at least Sonnet? I'm tired of the brown poorfags here shilling their shitty Chinese models.
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>>106718537
>this garbage benchmeme again
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>>106718841
>>106718866
They probably found it cheaper to host this way (fits into specific cheap nodes or something like that)
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>>106718921
they all use gemini
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>>106718921
Brown poors or white trannies anon, your choice.
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>>106718921
>waaahh why isn't anyone glazing my overpriced slop dispenser :(
India is that way, saar
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>claudetroons leaving /aicg/
great
can we finally discuss chatbots without them shoving their expensive garbage models down our throats?
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>>106719118
No.
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There's something about Claudefags that just doesn't sit right with me. If someone insults Claude, their first instinct is to call them a poorfag.

It implies they pay for chatbots.
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>>106719197
saar, we all pay for chatbots here, no illegal activities here
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Am I just losing it or did deepseek used to be better? I'm not talking about 3.1 being shit, but just regular V3 and R1 felt way better a few months ago.
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>>106719346
Deepchink was always a shit, cope option.
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>>106719346
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_degradation#Example
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Cligger seething
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>>106719346
they released terminus some weeks ago
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>>106719346
0324 is as good as it was on release
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>>106719446
Which mean it's shit.
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>>106719493
its alright, certainly no 4pus but its still solid
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>>106718323
Fuck Featherless and Arli and Soji, they drained me of my money.

But then!

I found out about the diamond logo provider (wont tell you about it cause fuck you locust), $8 for a sub with dipsy and kimi? KINOOOOOOOOO
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>>106719533
>paying for chink models
LMAO
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>>106719533
Is this about proxies again?
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>>106719533
We know about nano-gpt, cuckie.
No one here pay for chink models.
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>>106719533
>paying for chink models
perfectly fine, i think theyre worth it
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>>106719539
kys go back >>>/g/lmg

>>106719542
>Is this about proxies again?
legit one, not stolen key like those tranny ones you have to join their discord and show your cock or do a parkour level in TF2
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>>106719539
>i sure hope someone beats evil, horrible, capitalist america
>here are chinese models undercutting the greedy american hegemony
>LOL I'M NOT GONNA PAY FOR ANYTHING
when america wins again, it'll be your own fault
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>>106719554
DELETE YOUR FUCKING MESSAGE RIGHT NOW YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT, WE DONT NEED LOCUSTS SWIPING 100K TIMES A MINUTE AND SHITTING A GOOD SERVICE
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>>106719567
stupid fucking chud, use claude and chatpt
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locusts are all poor thirdies that can't pay $8 a month anyway, whats the issue
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>>106719607
I can pay $20 a month. What service is for me?
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>>106719614
if youre not a dailygooner then just pay for 3.7 with caching
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There's nothing useful in the OP anymore. Can we just have it be empty next bake? I don't care about the wikislop.
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Why did newmakies completely mog the cabal in the guild event?

For example, quelanaenjoyer has released two (2) bots total, both got more downloads AND favorites than literally all of astroslop's bots (400 followers btw) in the past year. Is this really the best the cabal can offer?
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>>106719626
>There's nothing useful in the OP anymore. Can we just have it be empty next bake? I don't care about the wikislop.
I dont understand why we dont add providers to the list? like add featherless, arli, openrouter, and nano there, its incredibly dumb we dont have those yet in the OP
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>>106719621
I really don't want to use Claude anymore. I was using 4.0 and it tends to overdeliver on features and is a little bit dumb to be honest. It's also way too eager to sound pleasing and be a team player which is off putting.
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>>106719644
Claude, OpenAI, OpenRouter, Arli, Featherless, NanoGPT, ElectronHub, and NovelAI. Sounds like a complete list to me, right?
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>>106719660
>ElectronHub,
I think I would replace this one with Chutes not ironically, or even Soji from Chub
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>>106719660
>Claude, OpenAI,
everyone uses those in openrouter so redundant
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>>106719663
Chub and Chutes are both good, yeah. Electron's just in my mind because it got added to ST.
>>106719670
True.
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>>106719626
>I don't care about the wikislop.
Why? The wiki is the solution to all your problems.
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>>106719678
Nobody's using your egoproject, get over it.
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>>106719660

>Providers
OpenRouter - (LINK_HERE)
ArliAI - (LINK_HERE)
Featherless - (LINK_HERE)
NanoGPT - (LINK_HERE)
Chub (Soji, DS V3 Finetune) - (LINK_HERE)
NovelAI (GLM 4.5). - (LINK_HERE)
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>>106719653
oh then $20 will get you far with the chink models even if i do think 3.7 is better than any of them and is superior to 4nnet, youre not lasting long on $20 a month for 4pus
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>>106719688
I didn't make it. What's objectively wrong with a wiki? /aids/ has one, and they're thriving.
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https://rentry.org/neoAICGOP
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>>106719710
>Other bots
Fuck off.
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>>106719718
?
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>>106719710
Seems fine, but you are missing the anchor site url with bots
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>>106719702
>3.7 is superior to 4nnet
I see this posted a lot in the thread. What's the reasoning behind it? Honest question, at face value, aren't later models supposed to be better than earlier ones?
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>>106719726
It's linked to via the other bots link, saw no point in double linking it.
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you just know the ratlice leaker is the same person who keeps bringing him up. I genuinely wonder what he did to him
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>>106719733
>It's linked to via the other bots link, saw no point in double linking it.
Yeah, you are right, my bad, then it seems like a good change to the OP, finally good things coming out of this general
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>>106719725
>https://aicg.neocities.org/
That's a Trojan Horse. You don't belong here.
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>>106719754
>That's a Trojan Horse. You don't belong here.
are we still doing this whole schizo thing with neocities
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>>106719727
3.7 feels a bit more creative and varied than sonnet 4 and has better prose imo
>later better than earlier
youd be surprised how often that isnt the case
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>>106719764
I mean, look at the current OP. Schizonigger's been working overtime to try and promote his sloppy wiki nobody edits over existing shit.
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>>106719764
We are. You're not going to own a piece of the OP. Just go back to /vg/. You already have like 75% of the OP there.
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>>106719792
schizo are you okay? are you okay? are you okay schizo?
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>>106719727
3.7 sonnet was an upgrade to 3.5 sonnet. 3.5 sonnet had this issue where it just wouldn't write a lot. it wouldn't advance the scene by itself. it would stand stock still until you made something happen. 3.7 sonnet fixed that. characters were progressive. they'd move the story forward, and 3.7 sonnet wrote plenty. it was a genuine joy to use.

all of the problems in 3.5 sonnet? are back in 4 sonnet. no progression, it writes less, 4 sonnet's benchmark scores are even worse than 3.7 sonnet's benchmark scores. and yet, the filter on 4 sonnet is also stronger. it's a downgrade across the board
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>>106719792
Are you actually going to accomplish anything on behalf of this general or are you just gonna keep saying that everything needs to go to /vg/? Because I'd rather we have a useful OP over coddling your feelings.
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>>106719792
Fuck off back to >>>/mlp/
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>>106719764
>we
Come on. This schizobake to encroach onto the normal template, the other falseflag bake to call every poster who follows the real op a /vg/troon. Is he so afraid of desu because we are desu and he's all alone, samefagging his empty life away?
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>>106719855
>Come on. This schizobake to encroach onto the normal template, the other falseflag bake to call every poster who follows the real op a /vg/troon. Is he so afraid of desu because we are desu and he's all alone, samefagging his empty life away?
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>>106719855
I don't care about desu, I just think schizonigger is a faggot who needs to fuck off back to /mlp/.
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>>106718323
>>106718328
Deliciously smooth Furina pussy...
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>>106719817
>. no progression, it writes less, 4 sonnet's benchmark scores are even worse than 3.7 sonnet's benchmark scores. and yet, the filter on 4 sonnet is also stronger.
Unironically a preset issue. The only issue I've had with 4net is that it's stiffer than 3.7.
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>>106719709
^ I'm still waiting for an objective answer to this.
Why are we pretending that the wiki isn't owned by the desu mafia? It literally says "desu desu desu", "boku", with accounts called "EvilCabalist" and "DesufagOfficial".
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>>106719921
Yeah, as if Desufag isn't your meme.
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AHEM

FUCK CLAUDE FAGS, FUCK WIKI FAGS, FUCK BOTMAKIES TOO
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deliciously hairy furina pussy...
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>>106719934
It's smooth, idiot.
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>>106719926
Is "desu" supposed to be my meme too?
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jahoda's is hairy too. and columbina's
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>>106719958
nope.
smoothchads own you.
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AICG TAKEOVER EXPOSED
https://rentry.org/aicg-takeover-proof
>https://rentry.org/aicg-takeover-proof
https://rentry.org/aicg-takeover-proof
>https://rentry.org/aicg-takeover-proof
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I am not crazy! I know DESU FAG OWNS THE OP!
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>>106719996
This, but the wiki.
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Is it that time again already?
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oh wait, so thats why we havent gotten an anchor in many threads?

cause some stupid faggot thinks the anchor is from /vg/ trying to take over the /g/ general?
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>>106720027
yes. it's schizo o'clock. and he will bake early to preempt any normal thread
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>>106719889
That wasn't literal but he's afraid of every kind of genuine community even when it's nominal. Like how "cabal" wasn't generic enough and now he's "at war" with all botmakers. He needs to fuck off but chag doesn't deserve to suffer him either.
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>>106720026
looks like
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>>106719817
So it sucks at creative writing? Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but isn't Claude in general more of a coding model? At least, I remember it beating coding benchmarks back when 3.5 or 3.7 came out.
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so why not just stop using threads without anchors and modified OPs
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>>106718365
>untuned after all this time
fuck sakes, couldn't they have just picked kimi2 at this point
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I don't understand. What's the issue with having a more up-to-date OP?
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>>106720027
We don't want to have an anchor because botmakers betrayed the thread by making the split. If they want to abandon the thread, they shouldn't be able to still profit from it with the anchor. We should stop pretending that a bot posted in 4chan is any different from a bot posted anywhere else. They should compete with the rest of the bot ecosystem since they abandoned us.
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>>106720092
People just click the first link they see in the catalog without checking the previous thread.
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>>106720092
You can always go to /vg/ if you like botmakers that much.
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>>106720100
>kimi2
KImi seems more creative and unsloppy than GLM so I dont get it either

>>106720106
>I don't understand. What's the issue with having a more up-to-date OP?
Its just a war from a schizo against neocities, add the provider list you made to the next OP
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>>106720107
>>106720115
officially thirty seconds apart hours
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>>106720107
>>106720115
Why do you hate botmakers so much? its unhealthy at this point, you think every botmaker betrayed /g/?
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It's the same guy who spams CP sometimes, there was some posted in the previous thread when it was finally time to switch over from the shitty schizo version
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>>106720089
claude with claude 3 opus / claude 3.7 sonnet was more of a well rounded model. it could code yes, but it was also good at creative writing. starting with the 4 family, it started moving away from creative writing and going all in on coooooding at the expense of every other facet of the model.
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>>106720134
>Why do you hate botmakers so much? its unhealthy at this point, you think every botmaker betrayed /g/?
They did. They abandoned us. All to make a thread to talk about themselves.
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If you want to use aicgOP, the providers list could probably also just replace the Models list. Nobody's clicking on links to the docs.
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>>106720171
>Nobody's clicking on links to the docs
Now that is an entirely reasonable point. On the other hand the only good providers are OpenRouter and Featherless, other choices are crap.
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>>106720202
Featherless is crap too. Padded DeepSeek price with a billion 0.5B models. Might as well just link all the crap providers since linking only OpenRouter looks stupid. ArliAI and NanoGPT aren't that bad, anyway.
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>>106720134
name a single botmaker that has not posted on /vg/
names can be easily pressured into compliance
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The better test is naming a botmakie who hasn't made a femboy
That's where the pressure is really applied
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>>106720234
Better question: Who cares? If they want to keep gossipslop out of this thread and only post bots here, good.
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I'm waiting for the push-back against the idea that botmakers abandoned us for the split. Because if that idea is accepted, then it seems reasonable to me to stop giving them a space.
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Autism. Pure and simple.
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>>106720245
you do? I post on wathever thread I like, the other one has lesbians
disgusting
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The anchor isn't even just for bots, it's for new shit in general. I see this as a plain and simple sabotage of the general for no reason other than some guy's theory that everyone who has ever made a chatbot is evil.
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>>106718323
I pretty much look like this
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>>106720311
There's still an anchor, it just has a warning against botmakers. The people that abandoned you.
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>>106720326
That's not an anchor.
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>>106720326
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>106720323
your pussy is pretty much delightfully hairy
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>/g/aicg gets shit on constantly with schizoidal behavior
>/vg/aicg benefits
Hmmm...
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>>106720334
>anchor.jpg
It is.
I also wanted to say that botmakers are starved for attention, they want to be friends with other botmakers, etc. So they're going to be pulled into the existing botmaking circles. They're going to be told to post in /vg/, they are going to be brainwashed about this thread being about proxies, shitposting, or whatever. They're always bad mouthing this side. So opening your arms to botmakers just means that you're going to be stabbed eventually. They won't be able to hurt you if you never let them in.
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>>106720202
>Featherless
>GOOD

AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THE ONLY GOOD ONES ARE OPENROUTER AND NANO
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Vote for the new OP here desu:
https://poal.me/60eifn
https://poal.me/60eifn
https://poal.me/60eifn
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>>106720405
voted desu
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how do we kick the schizo and get botmakers back
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>>106720390
There's literally no problem with them making their own tranny clique if they want. Freedom of association nigga. Whatever you think of the OP being controlled by the dark side, removing the anchor is just spite
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>>106720431
Why would they come back when they already have a thread? It's time to let go.
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>>106720214
>>106720403
Okay, okay, no counterarguments from me. I only played with Featherless a little when it got R1 and went back to abusing my Kluster keys for free.
If Nano really doesn't check for how many IPs are using a single account and this is true
>we do not have *any* limit except for the 60k swipes a month
then it sounds too good to be true since it can be shared and they include the fucking image models. Probably the price is gonna skyrocket after a couple months, as per the usual.
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>>106720431
You could always turn the /vg/ thread into a more unbearable hellhole than this one at its worst.
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>>106720456
>then it sounds too good to be true since it can be shared and they include the fucking image models. Probably the price is gonna skyrocket after a couple months, as per the usual.
Probably, I think MIlan (founder) did say about scaling to $10-$12 in the future
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>>106720431
I would vomit if we get gossipniggers back
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>>106720440
I would feel more comfortable without putting the other cheek while they slap my face. Botmakers are just bound to be hostile to the thread. It doesn't seem hard to just open the other thread if you miss them.
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Sex with Furina
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>>106720390
>we
>they
>we
>they
Who are "we" exactly, are you some kind of cabal envoy or perhaps the king of /aicg/? I also want to be sure I can differentiate an attention-starved botmaker from other botmakers, what are the rules to determine who "they" are? I also want to know who else tells botmakers to post on /vg/ because I only see you doing that. I also want to know what on-topic non-meta posts are yours because so far you've been making this thread about proxies, shitposting, and whatever. Also stop badmouthing the normal op and anchor. I also recommend you to leave because every enjoyer of the chatbotting hobby is a botmaker and that makes everyone but you a botmaker, so you're the single person that eventually is going to get stabbed and hurt.
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>OP is getting fixed
>Anons are contributing to fix the general
>Anons hate the schizo nigger

WE ARE BACK BABY, WE ARE FUCKING BACK
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>>106719614

murrican get crewcut once a month for that?
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>>106718398
Cute boy who loves you delivery!

Papi Whistlethorn is...well, he's a great big chicken. Physically and metaphorically, a perpetually anxious chicken harpy that would probably jump at his own shadow. But those who look past that find a loyal homebody whose biggest love language is fussing over the people he cares about. He'd love to have a family of his own one day, but most people are kinda put off by his cowardly nature...

Six greetings:

1. Market day! He's selling his eggs.
2. Baby? Lost baby? Baby for Papi? Papi's baby?
3. There's a spider blocking the way to the attic and spiders are SCARY.
4. Blind date.
5. Making you breakfast (using his own eggs)!
6. Eggs! Fertilized eggs he's having with you!

Prank him, flirt with him, tell him scary stories. I dunno.

https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/papi-d21d6c3888e7
https://files.catbox.moe/w34cpd.png
https://planewalker.neocities.org/

>OTHER STUFF
- I updated Zeke and Adonis, two of my oldest bots, because they sorely needed it.
- New log on my Neocities. Kimi is neat but it has these bursts of pure retardation that I don't know how to deal with besides to keep swiping.
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>>106720516
and its all thanks to sizefags
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I still generally like (some) botmakies.
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>>106718398
>>540611830
Update to Ashley: intro images, a bit of cleaning up in her definitions and a whole new intro! Ashley had to go on a business trip to Japan, and she got to bring someone along. Naturally, she chose you. With the work done, it's now time for a week of vacation, starting off with a ryokan with onsen.
https://chub.ai/characters/crikeymcdoodle/ashley-99e899b3
https://files.catbox.moe/v73e1t.png

Fun fact:After making Tiche (who we'll get around to eventually), I wanted to make a proper BE bot with a mechanic that would cause growth to occur naturally while also returning to the original size. I ended up with sweat, but some other ideas I had were ocean tides, moon phases and menstrual cycles.

As always, all my other stuff can be found here:
https://rentry.org/crikeyscorner
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>>106720532
but they rigged the event and killed Genoo?
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>>106720553
and nothing of value was lost
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>>106718323
maarge why is there 'p in the OP?
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>>106720512
>Who are "we" exactly
We, the people in this thread that didn't leave for /vg/ to talk about botmakers.
>I also want to know who else tells botmakers to post on /vg/
Clearly other botmakers, that's how it ended up as a botmaker thread. The intention was to be more than that, like a literal replacement of this thread.
>I also want to know what on-topic non-meta posts are yours
I made this post: >>106718800
One of the most informative posts in this thread.
>Also stop badmouthing the normal op and anchor.
I think the mechanic of having to ask aicg.neocities or aicgOP for permission, with these people hanging in /vg/, seems pretty evil. Also, I don't respect botmakies, they abandoned us. I also think partyintheanchorhold was evil for marking bots as belonging to a board if they were posted first there. And having that shoved in our faces in the OP. Fuck you for that too.
>I also recommend you to leave because every enjoyer of the chatbotting hobby is a botmaker
No, I don't think so. Botmakers think the hobby is about them. I think they don't matter.
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>>106720553
What event? Who is Genoo?
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>>106720613
a card exchange from a year ago
sizefag botmaker
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>>106720518
I'm Brazilian.
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>>106720611
>I also think partyintheanchorhold was evil for marking bots as belonging to a board if they were posted first there.
Retard-kun, each board has its own post numbers. Yours is >>106720611
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I don't get it. What are we arguing about? The original discussion was just to put some extra links in the OP. Did we get sidetracked?
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>we
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>>106718398
You love mean girls, right? Those bitchy popular bullies that know they're better than everyone else? There's always that Queen Bee that sits atop the school and looks down on everyone else. Well, this isn't about her. This is about Trina Winters, the ditzy, airheaded minion. You know, the clumsy one who's always mishearing and messing up the leader's plans.

https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/trina-winters-gyaru-goth-mean-girl-734452765d4c

Decided to do a pretty regular girl this time, just because I had this idea stewing. But backlog's growing all the time. Whole thing started with just a design then the bully background came kinda late in the game since I was getting kind of bored with just doing romance cards.
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slow day in discord, huh? play some vidya instead babe
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>>106720717
>>106720542
>>106720525
Schizo?
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Ten bucks says the schizo is a failed botmakie who didn't get popular and is assmad about it
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>>106720706
That was a fake discussion to insert a Trojan Horse.
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>botmakie
go back.
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Logmakies are likely the next group to betray us. I would be wary of them.
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>>106720770
>t. irrelevant schizo seething that GODjo left his mark
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it's okay schizmakie I think you're special, even if those /vg/ meanies don't <3
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>>106720795
Clearly the true enemy is bot users. Lurking in the shadows, waiting to enact their vile plans. We must strike first.
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Don't give any (you)s to postmakies. They're just doing posting for attention.
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>>106720826
Don't trust non-(you)makies! They just want attention by not replying directly to people! Stay vigilant.
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>>106720553
I thought genoo had a come to Jesus moment and that was why he nuked his shit
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peeling furina's shorts off and smelling them while she squirms
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ryona with Furina
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>>106721016
I would fucking kill you.
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>>106721023
...isn't that the goal of ryona
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>>106721027
NO
ryona is NOT snuff or guro
get it RIGHT
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cunnilingus on furina as she squeezes her thighs against my head, trapping me in place
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Furina love and kisses and sex.
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thick thighs mean strong legs
yeah, she can definitely endure several years of domestic abuse
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Furyona
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>>106720611
Weird, I'm a person in this thread and didn't leave but somehow I don't think what you say "we" do. This can't be the real meaning, what's up with that?
How can you know what happens on /vg/ unless you go there? I think you're the traitor.
>Clearly other botmakers
Clearly not because I never see them mentioning the split. But you have been talking about it non-stop ever since you noticed the second template in the op rentry. When was that, a year ago? You're constantly bringing up /vg/ for a year already, by that logic this makes you the worst enemy of this thread.
But actually I made this post: >>106718800 It was one of the most informative posts in this thread. Why would you claim you posted that when it was I who posted that?

Where does it says someone has to ask aicg.neocities or aicgOP for permission?
What's bad about these people hanging on /vg/ when they took it onto themselves to keep up with /aicg/ and there's /aicg/ on /vg/?
>botmakies
Of course, no one respects botmakies, only trannies call themselves that way. Why do you use that word, by the way, are you also a tranny by any chance?
But if that was an accidental mistake and you meant to say "botmakers", then what obligations did they have before you that allow you to say they have abandoned you? They certainly didn't abandon me, I see some right here in this thread, with me.
>bots as belonging to a board
But you said all botmakers left to /vg/, then how could it be the bots were posted on two boards at the same time to be wrongfully marked? This doesn't track.
>Botmakers think
Somehow you think you know what other people think but at the same time you think your thinking has more value than thinking of somebody else, of multiple people even? I don't understand.
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I'm not reading that.
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we hate botmakers here
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Ok so I think I finally figured out how Sillytavern works.
But the google API I used doesn't give NSFW responses.
Which is a problem because I was trying to shove a carrot up Seraphina's butt, and it won't let me.
Any advice?
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we hate chub here

never forget what he did by banning loli

>>106721262
>Any advice?
You need a good preset/jailbreak + prefill to bypass google nsfw filter
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>>106721262
why would you want to do something like that.
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>>106721262
You need to read this guide:

https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings#presets-prompts-and-jailbreaks
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>>106721299
buy an ad
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>>106721267
>You need a good preset/jailbreak + prefill
Alright I went to read more on it but the link on the OP for jailbreaks I assume takes me to a blank wiki page. Any other guide about that somewhere?
>>106721268
>why would you want to do something like that.
You mean you don't try to shove things up a woman's butt as soon as you meet her?
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>>106721315
https://rentry.org/jb-listing
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>>106721315
There's also this about Gemini's filters. I think it's still relevant.
https://rentry.org/gemini_filters
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On a similar note, the presets of people like Nemo/Marinara/Celia/LucidSomething, with thousands of options, are good for like, 10 messages, then it becomes chaos and they use a shit ton of tokens for the preset
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>>106721315
>You mean you don't try to shove things up a woman's butt as soon as you meet her?
was it consensual.
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>>106721315
did you enable billing before genning an api key?
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>>106721354
>On a similar note, the presets of people like Nemo/Marinara/Celia/LucidSomething, with thousands of options, are good for like, 10 messages, then it becomes chaos and they use a shit ton of tokens for the preset
You are AnonBot, you will play an endless immersive NSFW roleplay with {{user}}, do not talk for {{user}}, or assuming his actions. Remember to always show off your armpits to him and every other NPC


thats it, all the prompt you need
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>>106721354
>Nemo
If nothing else, the whole nemonet concept is pretty neat.
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>>106721323
>>106721342
I will check it. Still new to all this stuff but just trying to get my dick wet.
>>106721364
What do you think anon?
>>106721365
Don't think I did, why?
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>>106721376
>Remember to always show off your armpits to him and every other NPC
>every other NPC
whore
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>>106721376
>
 Remember to always show off your armpits to him and every other NPC
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>>106721262
This Anon hates botmakers so much he will only ERP with Seraphina.
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>>106721386
>Don't
apparently google removed the permission to generate keys from accounts without billing, guess it was a lie?
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>>106721427
I'm not really trying to make a bot or anything like that, just trying to shove something from chub into sillytavern like I was recommended to do.
Is this not the right general for that by any chance?
>>106721436
Granted, I got my key from them several months ago and it apparently still works. So who knows really, maybe they did do that.
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>>106721454
>I'm not really trying to make a bot or anything like that, just trying to shove something from chub into sillytavern like I was recommended to do.
>Is this not the right general for that by any chance?
DONT LISTEN TO THE RETARDED SCHIZO
HE HATES BOTMAKERS BECAUSE..NOBODY KNOWS ACTUALLY WHY
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>>106721454
>several months
nevermind then
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>>106721436
NTA but pretty sure it's one of the A/B testing things they do sometimes.
On one of my burners, I was indeed prompted to hand over my billing details. While on another, I could generate as many keys as I wanted without issue.
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>>106721262
Ok I think I get it, I need the API key which I have now and these presets. I'm clicking through the rentry and there's a bunch but its not clear which one of them are for NSFW stuff and which ones are just generic better writing models I think.
Do any of you have any suggestion for me to pick? Which one do you guys use?
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So has anyone gotten bonked for being too saucy on openrouter or chutes? Do they permaban you/blacklist your card or what?
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>>106721594
openrouter don't care, they are happy for you to buy as many nfsw cunny gens as your debit card can handle
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>>106721594
this get asked on a regular basis, there are 0 (zero) known instances of people being banned from openrouter for the content of their prompts. if they did ban people, they wouldn't be the go-to source for paid claude



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