I like RHEL.

mint is nice

>>106727264
Based. I'm more of a SUSE kinda girl but I respect your choice.

>>106727255
>KaOS
what the hell is this, this is the first time I hear about this distro.

>>106727311
Successor to Chakra

>>106727277
You are nice

Why are people saying to wait until Zorin OS 18? What does it bring to the table compared to 17?

Been having an issue with Pop_OS Cosmic (alpha and beta) where I'll get a random crash, then on hard reboot I have a giant white screen that covers the entire login screen and desktop. In addition workspaces will not show a preview window (and this was an issue before the crash). I've looked up possible solutions to both of these problems with the only thing I could find being that xwayland is causing it. It could very well be because I have this installed on a Macbook Pro Retina because I don't have these issues at all on my primary desktop.

>>106727702
Why would anyone use Zorin?

>>106727733
Report the bug to system 76

>>106727283
Are you single?

>>106727702
Primarily the fact that Zorin 17 is still based on Ubuntu 22 LTS, so you're getting packages which are over 3 years old at this point. In "Linux time" this is equivalent to still using a Windows 7 system which hasn't been updated in a decade.

>>106727763
Some people think it looks nice. It's also more familiar to newcomers coming from Windows, compared to something like Mint (Cinnamon looks archaic) and Ubuntu (layout is considered too different).

>Debian (Ubuntu)
>Fedora (RHEL)
>openSUSE (SLE)
>Arch (SteamOS)
>Gentoo (ChromeOS)
Are there any other distros that are being used meaningfully by bigger real world projects?

i love systemd so much.

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I want to choke this motherfucker to death.

>>106727976
I’ve used Fedora and Debian as much as I’ve used Windows Enterprise/NT at various jobs.
Fedora ran a few arcades and Debian ran 90’s/00’s era retail hardware
Hell, I see modified versions at hospital terminals

>>106728004
>rpm
>fedora
>gnome
>systemd
>selinux
>pipewire
>firewalld
>btrfs
>zram
>luks
>wayland
>flatpak
>firefox
>duckduckgo
>cloudflare
>wine
>proton
Yep, it's peak computing time. This is the best that linux has ever been.

>>106728067
Replace Firefox with Librewolf and DuckDuckGo with Brave Search and we have an agreement.

I am going to run firefox on openbsd as a way to compartimentalize facebook away from my main install
using profiles was a good idea however i realized it could lead to mixups which'd be bad

>>106728203
Case of use for Librewolf? I usually just get the arkenfox js for Firefox and feel like it's 90% as good in terms of privacy but doesn't break any sites and has faster updates and less of an attack surface possibility as it's directly from Mozilla

>>106728211
>however i realized it could lead to mixups
Use different themes for each profile.

>>106728042
Why? He sounds very reasonable here, even suggesting that sandboxing with Landlock and AppArmor would be welcome.

Somebody just has to do the work. Libapparmor exists so I see no reason why it couldn't use. Canonical can go and sponsor a developer to do it.

>>106728226
I'm too lazy to fuck around with custom scripts and configs.

>>106728211
Why don't you just install their official addon for this?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-container/

>>106728067
>>flatpak
>>firefox
>>duckduckgo
>>cloudflare
>>wine
>>proton
>>selinux
>>firewalld
>>btrfs
>>rpm
>>fedora
>>gnome

all trash. don't reply to my comment again

>>106728545
Clasen and E-Bussy are the two big tards driving gnome into the ground. It's always my way or the highway with them. Here again, this asshole tells people to stop using a library that has been relied upon for years by major free software projects (such as firefox) if they don't agree with the retarded way it now defaults to loading image files.

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I used to use mint on my laptop for a couple years when I was in highschool but now that windows 10 support is dying I'm considering putting linux on my main desktop and just virtualizing windows when I need to do something that specifically requires it (office for college courses, some games having gay intrusive anti-cheats that are incompatible with troonix, etc.). Anyway which one should I go for, mint or debian?

>>106729013
If you're already familiar with Mint, just go with Mint. But Bazzite is the new distro for beginners and casual users so it might be a better option.

>>106728818
There are no alternatives, all the active devs have accepted that these are the solutions and the future of linux. Keep up or get left behind

>>106729111
>don't reply to my comment again

>>106728785
addons make you fingerprintable
then again you're already fingerprintable just by using both firefox and linux

>>106727951
Just get Flatseal to manage Flatpak permissions.

>>106726261
Red Hat on 4chan?
>>106728067
Well, it's mostly Red Hat choosing direction, most of others just follow slowly (if at all).

>>106729111
>Keep up or get left be-ACK

If you had to pick one LTS distro which would you pick? I know of Debian LTS, Ubuntu LTS, Linux Mint Deb and Ubu based, openSUSE Leap, Slackware. Which one is best maintained and least likely to cause me any trouble? I just want to have my PC not change for years, have a good filesystem that won't corrupt my files on power outage or from updates, and mostly use it to watch movies, read ebooks, journal my real life shit in libreoffice and notepad and maybe sometimes play a game or two from gog using lutris.

>>106729234
You can do that, but it's still annoying as fuck and completely arcane since nothing is ever explained to the user.
>Drag-drop not working by default in almost any messaging or browser application. You need to somehow know that the application requires you to go to system settings or flatseal to manually give it access to a path or "access all user files" permission.
>VSCode/Codium has to be tinkered with to get a proper terminal and shell completion. And needs to be tinkered with to get access to your system libraries and running processes for debugging.
>Some editing software (mostly image editing) defaults to saving files into temporary flatpak paths (under some conditions). If you don't realize this and close the program, your file gets deleted and all your work is lost.
>Mumble freezes when using push to talk by default unless you disable the X11 windowing permission. Why? Who the fuck knows.

Flatpak is only good as a universal packaging format. All the sandboxing bullshit is retarded and should just be automatically disabled. Or rather, every permission should just be automatically enabled.
>inb4 but muh sandbox security
All flatpak apps have access to the flatpak binary. All of them can arbitrarily give themselves any permissions they want without user input, since they can just execute flatpak commands. That's exactly how Flatseal works.

>>106729415
Ubuntu and Debian are the most widely used distros professionally, so I'd go with Ubuntu LTS. While both are supported for 5 years, the last couple of years of Debian LTS are always handled by a handful of volunteers. Meanwhile Ubuntu offers up to 10 years of support for paid users (at least for servers), so they have to ensure their LTS base system works.

>>106729415
I have been using Debian for years now, although I have switched to Debian unstable recently because I now crave the newer software. That said I think I would agree with >>106729534 that Ubuntu is a better option for you because you don't need to mess with debian sources to install the non-free software and firmware which is one of the main hurdles for newbies installing Debian for the first time.
>good filesystem that won't corrupt my files on power outage or from updates
This isn't a distro-specific thing. All Linux distros I know (and including the ones you listed) use EXT4 or EXT3 as the default filesystem. I'm not knowledgeable in this subject but it seems there are certain options you can enable in the file system to make it more resistant to power outages:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/86647/make-system-robust-against-unexpected-power-loss
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=66651
>watch movies, read ebooks, journal my real life shit in libreoffice and notepad and maybe sometimes play a game or two from gog using lutris.
This isn't distro-specific either, you can do that on any distro nowadays with flatpaks.

I'm not super into linux but I tried opensuse tumbleweed, wtf is the point exactly? Why do I have to do bullshit commands to install codecs to watch a regular .mp4 or .mkv? (I can't even just zypper install codec, you need to enable some kind of other repo and download them from there). This shit feels like arch where you have to do everything yourself but it still comes preloaded with random shit. Can someone give me a barebones list of linux distros worth using? I just want safety, privacy and no stupid edrama or political shit associated with the project

>>106729795
>Why do I have to do bullshit commands to install codecs to watch a regular .mp4 or .mkv?
Because you're installing a meme distro almost nobody uses outside of regulated office drones in european companies.
>Can someone give me a barebones list of linux distros worth using?
Aurora, Bazzite, CachyOS, Mint, Ubuntu.

>>106729795
>>106729795
>I'm not super into linux but I tried opensuse tumbleweed, wtf is the point exactly?
To have an always up to date rolling release system with automatic snapshots.

>Why do I have to do bullshit commands to install codecs to watch a regular .mp4 or .mkv?
Packman is a third party repo due to legal reasons. Don't blame Opensuse or Fedora which does the same, blame US patent laws.
Besides, you don't need packman. Keep your system clean, install all the proprietary bullshit via flatpak.
>(I can't even just zypper install codec, you need to enable some kind of other repo and download them from there). This shit feels like arch where you have to do everything yourself but it still comes preloaded with random shit. Can someone give me a barebones list of linux distros worth using? I just want safety, privacy and no stupid edrama or political shit associated with the project
If entering two commands ($ sudo zypper install opi && opi codecs) is already too hard for you, stay with Mint.

>>106729995
How do you install a codec via "flatpak"? I thought flatpak was just for applications

>>106730033
Codecs come bundled with flatpaks automatically. Just Install mpv or VLC or whatever and play any file you want.

>people shilling cachyOS for gaming
>try it
>hyprland is the only WM i can comfortably use
>it's riced beyond retardation, integrated with fish (non-posix)
>its conf file is retarded and breaks my install like 3 times when i try to copy my own hyprland config file over
>get steam installed
>have the fastest kernel
>none of my fucking games are launching because they all need d3d11 GPU
>i'm on a 5th gen intel thinkpad
>try to use protonup-qt because it has dxvk
>it no longer has dxvk on it... great
>cachyOS wiki is just thousands of lines of jargon
>there are literally hundreds of wine and proton packages and i have a headache just thinking about trying to read any of them
Fuck this distro. Thanks for reading my TED talk.

Time for a mac mini? Or a mini PC? At least a dual boot with W11 would skip the proton retardation all together

How do you add a WINE application to the Menu in Linux Mint?

Normally I would just create a Desktop Launcher, then for the command add: wine [path to application], then a popup will ask me if I want to add it to the menu (And I can also create it in the menu directly with Edit Menu), and that should be it. But it doesn't work.
I've also tried env WINEPREFIX="/home/user/.wine" wine '/path/to/your/application.exe' but that doesn't work either. I try to double click the desktop launcher and nothing happens.

However, if I navigate directly to the application (WebMConverter.exe) and double click that, it works (opens up in wine too without any special commmands). But for some reason, I can't get it to work with a desktop launcher. I just want to make a shortcut instead of having to navigate to it or make a link (which just auto-navigates to the exe, but I want to launch the exe directly, not just go to its location).

>>106730129
Maybe PikaOS is better? It's the same silly ricer stuff but with Debian base.

>>106730201
Is it plug and play? CachyOS is shilled as the ultimate gaming distro straight out of the box but it didn't work for me.

I'll have a look on youtube now to see if it's worth bothering with.

is there a better man page program?
shits like reading a newspaper after a few hours. some color or hyperlinks to related pages would be nice.

>>106730129
you know you can change the shell, right?

chsh

i don't use cachy for anything other than testing machines, just because it works on everything, but it takes 4 minutes to de rice it.

edit your configs for hyprland on a machine that works. tiling wm's are gay when nothing works.

>>106730214
Just install arch man, if you don't want to deal with the manual installation (you should) use the install script. Derivatives are a meme

>>106730558

>>106729415
i'd go for Ubuntu LTS or RHEL (i prefer RHEL) the rest don't really matter

as for the filesystem, look into ZFSbootmenu, or if Ubuntu still does ZFS root out of the box, go with that

Reading about systemd. Are there useful services worth having?

>>106730999
Anything packages you pull will come with their unit files. You may have to enable them if not done by default.

A good starter project is setting up a timer and a service file that runs a shell script. E.g tar some files and move them to a remote disk.
Don't get overwhelmed by all the parameters, just start with a simple oneshot type.

>>106731065
*By "them" I mean the service. Some packers enable by default which is bad practice imo. Others leave the preset disabled.

>>106731065
>A good starter project is setting up a timer and a service file that runs a shell script. E.g tar some files and move them to a remote disk.
Oh I'm not interested in writing my own service, but seeing as how you mentioned it, it does sound very interesting.

On a somewhat unrelated note, do I need to explicitly enable fstrim.service or will running

systemctl enable fstrim.timer

take care of all of that for me?

>>106731118
Timers run regardless. The service is what needs to be activated.

Systemctl status fstrim.service

>>106731135
Thanks.

>>106731135
Oh you can also run a status on that timer, it will tell you the location, should be in etc/systemd/system If you open the timer file you can modify the period of the runtime, it's fairly self explanatory.

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>>106730432
The default pager is usually less, you can colour it. See the Arch wiki page on it, it's pretty good.

>>106730129
>Time for a mac mini
how would mac mini make the gaming situation better? i have one and its only good for like web browser games which linux handles just as fine

This thread is so retarded

>>106731938
Maybe, but we're new to linux retards anyway.

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Been trying for the last two hours to change my image preview. It looks tiny and doesn't play .gif or webbums in the preview panel. Any ideas what I could do? Settings don't change anything substantial. Mostly just on/off.

Ideally, I want my image preview to show moving .gif and webbums in a large preview panel so I know what I'm posting or looking at. As it is, it's miniscule for ants and nothing in the settings help.

>>106731984
>gtk filepicker
You're cooked bud
Open the file manager and drag and drop

Is there a KDE global theme that doesn't suck shit? I've been using Amy Dark for ages but every time I look into other themes it's one of 2 categories:
1. macOS clone
2. Babby's first theme
Is this the best that KDE has to offer?

>>106732146
switch to https://store.kde.org/p/1229134

>>106732317
wow it's another fucking macOS clone

>>106732321
https://store.kde.org/p/2136378

>>106732321
it was more of a gnome clone than a macos clone. looks nothing like maxos

>>106732321
https://store.kde.org/p/2153628

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Hello /fglt/ can you help an anon out with his thesis by answering the form below? It's about about peeps making the jump to linux, like me a month ago (:

> https://forms.gle/3g1YbLe8WsqEu8xJ6

Idk why this was the first place I thought I'd ask of all places desu, but I'll make sure to share the study with you all once it's done ^^

>>106729415
>If you had to pick one LTS distro which would you pick?
I wouldn't because they only make more work in the long run for desktop. Gun to my head I'd take Ubuntu because RHEL desktop is crazy paired down and I'd end up wasting even more time digging up 3rd party repos for tons of basic stuff.
>Which one is best maintained and least likely to cause me any trouble?
They're all equally unlikely to cause trouble because they don't change. In fact your biggest point of trouble will be that they don't change. Ubuntu has an advantage in that they make it easy to step off the LTS track without wrecking your install.
>a good filesystem that won't corrupt my files on power outage or from updates
That's all of them because these distros don't change kernels. If it works when you installed it, it's going to keep doing that.

>>106732452
EPEL honestly covers like 90% of packages for a desktop.

>>106728858
Firefox doesn't use gdk pixbuf, they do all of their own image decoding. Firefox does indirectly use GTK but they should stop doing that, or at the very least offer a Qt front-end as an alternative but their GUI stack is really ugly, they have their Wayland code balls deep with their GTK code and abuse GTK in ways which lead to Wayland bugs. It really wasn't designed for embedding in a browser the way they do. Chrome's GTK and Qt front-ends are implemented much more cleanly.

there is no "aha" moment. if there's an aha moment it's the first second you boot it up and actually see boot messages from your init system. it doesn't hide from you.

>>106729415
I would pick Debian if I had to.
Why:
>Community distribution (even though it's often sponsored by many big enterprises that use it)
>Shorter support periods (10 years of LTS support is a trap. You don't want your desktop that out-of-date)
>Newer packages than Ubuntu LTS depending on when you install it (Debian 13 just released and the next Ubuntu LTS won't be until next year)
>Migration path off of stable and onto testing or Sid if you get bored with stale software

>>106732428
I cba doing a full survey without some kind of payment involved, but I swapped to Linux because I finally tired of upgrading to the next edition of Windows only to lose features, deal with more spyware bullshit and spend months modding it to get it to work the way I want it to.

>>106732459
Yeah but the remaining 10% are some dirty whores.

>>106729415
debian and leap
kind of depends on which package manager you prefer. if that doesn't help you decide i've also noticed opensuse users tend toward kde while debian users tend toward GNOME, but i doubt that matters for servers, which is the whole point of stable/lts distros. if you don't use yast (it has a text mode) then go with debian. then again, maybe the most import thing is which one has the packages you need. do you tend to use .deb or .rpm?

>>106730432
Use tealdeer

Anyone have a good Cli Tool list for beginners? I like Taskwarrior and I'm about to try a Spotify client.

>>106729415
I'd say Ubuntu is shite this days so and this I'd avoid everything based on it too. If you're skilled enough to set up Debian than no point in LMDE either. openSUSE and Slackware has a problem with not so many users (which DOES matter to stability). So I'd go for Debian or maybe Alma for that.

>>106733241
for me if I *had* to pick an LTS distro for desktop usage I'd pick Alma followed by Debian.
For servers, Alma is a no-brainer desu.

Linux Mint devs, if you're reading this, please add that cool translucent blur effect you did to the login screen also to the panel and the menu. Would be cool to have that effect on all the windows too but we can save that for a later update (Maybe after you add full stable Wayland support). Thanks in advance, and keep up the good work.

>>106733140
https://github.com/agarrharr/awesome-cli-apps

For me the final endgame of linux is arch+XFCE. There's literally no better combo. It's agnostic, it just werks and its bloat free without any autism, just standard, lightweight FHS compliant systemd standard linux.

The default DE's are upstream and they don't ship ANYTHING except whatever the distro DE devs shipped, completely VANILLA which I LIKE. I want it as plain as vanilla icecream, I want zero changes.

Stable release distros are obsolete when things like timeshift exist anyways.

Pacman is one of the fastest and best package managers in all of linux.

cachyos default config has this

# Help people new to Arch
alias please='sudo'

>>106733470
Cute

>>106733286
Why? Only because of long support?

>>106733439
For me it's LMDE

Does it make sense to add a game's installer .exe/.msi as a Non-steam game, run it with Proton in steam, then add the installed game's .exe into Steam to play? Is that the standard way to install GOG/pirated games?

>>106733519
I just open Cartridges and then install game from exe

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Linux is in a rock in a hard place. Most normies wanting to switch to linux need the latest nvidia drivers but most distros like mint don't offer them.

But on the other hand arch DOES offer them but you're stuck with stupid riced shit like bazzite which is immutable KDE discover garbage or cachyOS which DOES come with its own package manager GUI but its customized to hell and is really strange that they would go all out on theming rather than just making it a simple vanilla KDE distro.
In linux its not a good thing to customize your distro for the user that isn't tasteful, and pic related is not fucking tasteful. Even mints new UI changes to a bluish gray theme is controversial and a departure from the linux philosophy.

>>106733661
No it isn't. Some people like to tinker tranny around and decorate their operating system starting from scratch. Other people enjoy ready made operating systems and choose what fits them best. Both are valid choices.

>>106733661
This is why Fedora is the best Linux distro for normies. It offers the latest nvidia drivers.

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>>106731984
You've been... gnometardstruck!

>>106729795

they totally are not m$ germany wing division and av codecs are not german uni sex ed study

>>106732459
Flatpak pretty much covers the rest. I've heard about a DEB to RPM converter, but never tried it. I can understand wanting maximum software compatibility, in which case you'll probably want a .deb distro.

One major reason I went with Alma/RHEL is it has a 3 year release cycle compared to DEB distros and (presumably) like the original poster I am particularly autistic about having my computer not change for as long as possible.

>>106733740
Until your bootsplash gets garbled because the updater doesn't wait for the nvidia dkms modules to finish building. You'll be stuck for a few minutes on a broken bootscreen and think your shit's fucked and go back to Windows

>>106733740
only if you get vid codecs via rpmfusion
>>106733661
using archinstall is easy. ricing isn't hard, just change the font, colors, and icons

How do I make Nautilus open automatically when I plug in a usb drive?

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I've got a Kinesis Freestyle 2 For Mac, and the shortcut keys are being detected as a Shift modifier. How do I configure it to work on Linux? Currently using Fedora KDE if that matters.

>>106733661
I am so confused how Bazzite is riced garbage when it ships just KDE Dark on first launch

>>106733913
rpmfusion is mandatory anyway
>>106733704
That's why Debian is the best distro. It's possible to simply install in next next install fashion, you have option for advanced configuration with expert install, you have manual install with debootstrap. You have stable release that is pretty much LTS, you have rolling with sid. You have pretty much every major DE and can install literally any yourself. And you have them in pretty much perfectly clean state. You don't depend on some corpos like redhaggots and you can do pretty much whatever you want with distro. And you're not a test dummy for new shiny thingy.

>>106733439
>it's agnostic
No, fuck off. I want a Christian operating system.

>>106733439
>XFCE
Completely beholden to GTK, it's not agnostic.

>>106733519
>Is that the standard way to install GOG/pirated games?
I just use Bottles for this. There's no "standard way".

>>106733661
>bazzite which is immutable
This doesn't mean what you think it means, and it's not a flaw like you were mislead to believe.
>cachyOS which DOES come with its own package manager GUI but its customized to hell
If a distro is customized to be better than whatever a default is, then this is irrelevant. And if one distro is the only thing you'll use, then its customizations ARE the default/vanilla to you.
>mints new UI changes to a bluish gray theme is controversial and a departure from the linux philosophy.
What are you even talking about? Nobody actually cares and most people liked the change.
You're sperging out over nothing.

>>106734237
That anon clearly has no idea what he's talking about.

>>106734183
I dont know about your kb, but i used input-remapper before, when i needed to rebind mouse side buttons that KDE couldn't pick up. It's in repo, try it.

>>106729415
If you are savvy enough for it then FreeBSD is the perfect fit for you because it's stable and has the best file system in the world (ZFS) and you can do most of the stuff you mentioned (except maybe gaming, I'm not sure about that because I never used FreeBSD myself)

>>106730432

curl cheat.sh

>>106734540
FreeBSD supposedly has Linux emulation so you could try to game on it but I doubt it'd be a very good experience and the emulation is also incomplete so you're not going to get things like the recent ntsync changes.

>>106733910
You learn that that's completely normal if you're a poor soul that's forced to use NVIDIA. Also expect Secure Boot to be a pain.

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>wonder why /dev/sda is running out of space
>check my homedir
>18 GiB of core dumps

>>106734749

$ ulimit -c
0

Change the limits.

>>106734800
Thank you, fren. I was mostly just surprised at how many crashes I'd apparently endured over less than half a year.

>>106734830
Yeah, ideally you should fix the crashes but that's not always easy or obvious.

You can also change the location of core dumps like for example:

kernel.core_pattern = /tmp/cores/core_%e-%s.%p

That's useful if you want them to persist temporarily, although then you can end up with core dumps filling up /tmp too so I keep core dumps turned off unless I explicitly want to debug something.

>>106731984
You can try installing either xdg-desktop-portal-gnome or xdg-desktop-portal-kde and forcing it to be the default filepicker

>>106729658
>I have switched to Debian unstable recently because I now crave the newer software.
You might as well just use arch instead of debian sid.

>>106734540
Freebsd has a linux emulation layer for steam and has native support for wine.
Wine works fine and someone wrote a bash script for it to create some kind of similar experience to lutris called mizumatari
Never used steam on freebsd so i have no idea if it works properly or not. Might be easier to just use wine steam instead of using linux emulated steam so that you can still have native wine working.

>>106730129
This is why everyone's happy using mint and when they want to try something better they just jump straight to arch instead of cachy or whatever other meme arch-based distro
> 5th gen intel thinkpad
That's haswell right? Intel gpus dont get proper vulkan support untill Skylake.

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>>106727255
KrashDE user here!
Does anyone have any problems with their computer freezing when the highlighted option in picrel is enabled?
It says "Press mouse wheel and move the mouse to scroll" and it's a pretty cool option because my mouse wheel is broken

>>106727255
I blew away my Debian firewall/gateway whatever and replaced it with OPNSense. too early to say if it's better or worse.

>>106735303
I was using ipfire as my gateway for a long time until one day i decided to switch to opnsense

>>106735303
There's no Cake MQ on FreeBSD so worse

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>>106735252
Works for me, but my UI is different.

>>106735568
Maybe it's an OS issue, then
Are you on Debian by chance?

>>106735722
Arch.

I'm using pipewire, and it used to just werk between my main laptop speakers, my headphones and my bluetooth earphones.
However I recently got a dock which happens to have an audio output, which I will never use. But now it messed up all my shit. I had to do

pactl set-default-sink <the speaker sink device>

to get sound on my speakers after plugging in my dock, but then my headphones had no sound after plugging them in, so I had to do the same to set the headphones sink, and then it kinda worked, but then I plugged and unplugged the dock and it was out of order again.

Is there a way to configure a sink priority list somewhere in pipewire, so I can set it to headphones/bluetooth > speakers > USB dock audio and never have the priorities change or get messed up, since I'll never actually need the dock audio?

>>106734540
You don't have to use FreeBSD to use ZFS. And you probably shouldn't.

>>106735108
Well, it is what it is, I'm far too comfortable with Debian to switch to arch now.

>>106731984
Please see >>106727551

>>106735952
Open pavucontrol and tick/untick the checkmark to disable it. I think it should remember that.

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>>106735952
That's what I do.
>Super+(number) for Files
>start typing name of folder and press enter
>drag it into quick reply
This skips having to click on the files button to open the file picker in exchange for pressing a hotkey, searching is the same either way, and then a swipe instead of double clicking the file. Honestly not a big deal.

>>106736093
FreeBSD has first-class support for ZFS while zfs on linux is cucked by DKMS

>>106735252
>>106735568
Works for me as well, KDE 6.4.4
Weird as fuck option though to be honest

>>106735722
Oof. If you're on Debian and you're not on Sid, then you'll have to live with this bug for the next 2 years. They do a complete dependency freeze and don't update Plasma at all. Small bug fixes don't get backported unless they're critical.

>>106736424
Dumb question but is pavucontrol a daemon or just a GUI for the config? I don't have it installed
and I haven't needed it yet for anything. If it's just a config editor then I'll figure it out (either just install then uninstall it if I'm lazy, or I'll dig for the correct way to do it manually), if it's a daemon then I'm gonna reeee

Anyone using an immutable distro?
Need help getting stable diffusion/comfyUI running with GPU acceleration.

I can't get it to work.
It works if I set it to only use CPU, but even if I give the browser complete system access it still can not use the GPU and trigger the image generation

Just Flatpak moments

>>106729883
>Shizzite
Don't recommend iPod distros to new users, you will inevitably confuse them
>>106729795
Just install CachyOS and join the Discord for help

>>106736892
GUI for PulseAudio Volume control

>>106736819
>FreeBSD has first-class support for ZFS-on-Linux
Moron.

>>106737321
ZFS-on-linux is just the name of the project and merged with FreeBSD OpenZFS.

>>106736819
If you have a legitimate use case for ZFS you're running LTS kernels anyway so it's irrelevant.

>>106736895
I am, but I'm not using AI stuff.
>flatpak
What's your output of this:

flatpak info --show-permissions insert.package.name.here

Flatpak should definitely have the option of GPU acceleration, considering I have it in games, web browser, image editors, etc.

>>106736914
>recommends a distro where the first thing you have to do is join a shitcord so people will help you with inevitable problems
>tells others to not recommend a distro which just works
stop shitposting and gatekeeping

LMDE - it's Debian with cherry on top!

>>106738082
I HATE cherries

>>106737595
Who said you had to join the Discord? Why make up shit? It's there for convenience, as is their Wiki and the forum.
Is that the entire argument? "Has Discord server so must be shit"?
Meanwhile you are recommending literal iPod Linux that has half the system locked away on a read-only partition. It's only going to confuse the fuck out of new users.
>just works
Until it doesn't.
>stop gatekeeping
Next time you recommend Shizzite to someone, explain to them how it gatekeeps their own system from them because it assumes that the user is stupid. Do it before they install it.

>>106737495
You shoudlnt have to be forced to use lts kernels just to be able to run ZFS on linux.

>>106738201
>Who said you had to join the Discord? Why make up shit?
I'm making fun of you because immediately mentioning a help forum implies the user would probably be stuck without knowing how to use an OS.
>just works
>Until it doesn't.
ok, so just like cachyos bazzite has a discord where people can ask questions. so how is it different?
>how it gatekeeps their own system
this is how I know you're an idiot who is just parroting false information gathered from other idiots. if you have root permissions you can do whatever you want with the system just like you would on any other OS.
this is like saying cachyos gatekeeps the system because you need to use pacman to modify it. retard take.
>iPod Linux that has half the system locked away on a read-only partition. It's only going to confuse the fuck out of new users.
you're completely delusional if you think people are confused by mobile operating systems at all. if anything they're much easier to use. the only difference is that bazzite gives you root permissions by default, while you have to fight for this on android and you have to void warranty on iOS. you can't be serious if you're saying that an arch-based distro is easier to use than android. also your comparisons don't make any sense, kys.

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>>106736145
Thanks, I'm about to try it now. Hope I don't brick system 32 in the process and fuck everything.

>>106733774
>You've been... gnometardstruck!
Had KDE Plasma last year and while I loved it, it just didn't "work". With all the problems I have using Mint, KDE was worse, despite it being one sexy, stylish and highly functional OS.

>>106738663
What problems did you have with KDE?

>>106738684
I found out it stands for "Kool Desktop Environment", which is not kool at all and is, in fact, kringe.

Anyone here use NILFS2? If so, what has the experience been like, particularly in regards to rolling back to a snapshot? And would you recommend it over btrfs for a machine that can lose power and be brought back up at any time (running off an SSD of course)?

>>106738684
>What problems did you have with KDE?
Online games didn't work, single player games needed fuckery to get going, video players were wonky and that's pretty much it. But movies, tv and video games is 90% of what makes a computer good. Don't need a $1800 4chan posting machine. All I ask, is to be able to watch a movie on the big screen, while I play Marvel rivals on the side, as I download 3terabytes of japanese porn.

>>106738663
>system 32
anon... Linux doesn't have that...

>>106738340
>I'm making fun of you because immediately mentioning a help forum implies the user would probably be stuck without knowing how to use an OS.
It doesn't imply that, as I said, it's for convenience. Also that sentence doesn't make grammatical sense.
>ok, so just like cachyos bazzite has a discord where people can ask questions. so how is it different?
Your non-standard configuration will lead to problems and in many cases makes things more complex than they need to be. Hence why Arch philosophy follows the KISS design principle.
For instance, you need a whole set of helper scripts (that hopefully never break) to install various pieces of software in containers, because they would be stupendously difficult to install and update the regular way.
So now your users better understand containerization and how to manage it. Oops, is that your DaVinci Resolve container running out of space when you try to update?
You get the point. And all this, simply because people vastly exaggerate the frequency and ease of accidentally deleting critical files or otherwise breaking your system.
>if you have root permissions you can do whatever you want with the system just like you would on any other OS
Yet you need to jump through hoops and maneuver unnecessary complexities, for no reason other than that the designers of your OS assumed that you are probably fucking retarded.
That's great if you admit it and want to minimize your administrative responsibilities on your PC. But it needs to be actually said when you recommend the fucking distro to people.
>this is like saying cachyos gatekeeps the system because you need to use pacman to modify it. retard take.
l o l
Distros with package managers are just as locked down as immutable distros guys! Literally no difference!

>>106738340
>confused by mobile operating systems
People don't get confused by mobile operating systems.
The problem is that Bazzite isn't one. However, it adopts just enough of their design principles to make things more complex and convoluted than they need to be. That's what confuses people, especially given the fact that the vast majority of the ecosystem's software is *not made for immutable distros or with them in mind*.
And again, I am not talking about the root permissions. Root permissions don't matter much if your filesystem is read only.
Also stop riding my dick already and then kill yourself..

>>106738201
>>106738928
>>106738949
>explain to them how it gatekeeps their own system from them
False. You can do whatever you want just like you would on any other distro.
>they would be stupendously difficult to install and update the regular way.
You can install software like you would on any distro without using containers, by just using rpm-ostree. Just because it has a few extra characters, doesn't mean it's any different from "apt" or "dnf".
>Yet you need to jump through hoops and maneuver unnecessary complexities
If you think it's "stupidly difficult" or "complex" to layer a change on top of your system, then you should NOT be fucking around with your system at all.
>Root permissions don't matter much if your filesystem is read only.
What exactly do you need to change in your filesystem that can't just be done with rpm-ostree? Or by adding overrides in places which Fedora Atomic leaves user-writable specifically to override system stuff? You can literally change anything that 99.9% of users would ever need or want to change. You're speaking of edge cases which affect a tiny minority.
>for no reason other than that the designers of your OS assumed that you are probably fucking retarded.
No, immutability is a sought after feature that's used in many areas of software development. Having an immutable system means you can reliably know and persist its state.
>Distros with package managers are just as locked down as immutable distros guys! Literally no difference!
Immutability doesn't lock you down in any way. Unless, as mentioned, you don't have root/rpm-ostree permissions.
>Next time you recommend Shizzite to someone,
Next time you shit on accessible distros please explain to others that you're a tinkertranny who doesn't understand anything.
I assume you're the same person who was shitting on systemd when it was being standardized? Well, I hope you won't commit suicide next decade when immutable operating systems become a standard.

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i've been running picom this whole time to solve tearing without realizing that there's a "tearfree" xorg setting that you can just turn on

i hope this helps out someone else who doesn't use picom for effects. don't be retarded like me

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>install new debian 13 and latest lutris version along with it
>cool imma install this fun game i always play on lutris which ive done for years and its always worked
>all proton runners except "debian 10.0 repack-whatever" which never works
>not a single normal wine runner or the lutris wine runner from 2022 that used to work flawlessly
>install the game with proton runner
>"steam_app_default not responding"
>looked everywhere on the web and all i can find is some "dude install umu" which i did and nothing works
Ok. How do i go from here? Anyone else stumbled upon this retarded issue?

>>106729883
>>106736914
Let's just stop arguing and agree that Bazzite is shite for "hackers" who are still in 3rd grade.

Pure Kinoite/Silver blue is objectively better than using some repack for gaymers. Like some Windows from torrents, ew.

That's not to forget that the entire ostree agenda exists with the premise that your dnf <action> will break something (which it won't unless you're completely retarded like to the point where you consider Buzzite). No point in limiting yourself in flexibility and forcing yourself to install shitton of flatpaks cuz y'know containers are cool and shit. Not for the newbie. Entire CoW agenda exists for servers where you'll always want as many plan Bs as possible and not meant to be applied to filesystems and ESPECIALLY system updates on desktop. Redhatards might tell you otherwise but one shall see through their fake reasoning.

>>106739536
did they remove wine version management or not? just because they aren't making it easy doesn't mean it's impossible to select a different version

>>106739536
Download one of these https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/wine-ge-custom/releases and extract it to ~/.local/share/lutris/runners/wine/

>>106739692
yeah, flatpaks take up too much space
it's a pain finding their configuration files in weird directories
it sucks when the printer driver/video game/conference software i need is only .deb/.rpm and ostree doesn't like that
it sucks needing to reboot to update
fuck "immutable"
and fuck btrfs. it's too hard to recover. it's too slow (refer to benchmarks). i prefer arch on ext4 every time

>>106739692
>Pure Kinoite/Silver blue is objectively better
By what metric? Certainly not out of the box usability. I moved from Kinoite to UBlue distros *because* they're objectively better.

>>106739713
I don't know yet
>>106739751
This is the first thing I did and it didn't work, nothing showed up in the menu

im tired of "cloud native immutable kubernetes containerized" corporate soulless cancer

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>>106739147
Stop wasting my time, get AIDS, get cancer and promptly kill yourself you retarded faggot nigger

>>106739882 here
I managed I think i found a solution. You can apparently download it if go to to preferences > runners > wine
Literally did not know this existed.

>>106739927
2nd update on lutris issue: I forgot to make a wine folder within runner folder when i was putting my runners in there but its solved now.

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>try gnome
>press a key on file manager
>recursively search for all files
>no option to disable this

this is fucking retarted

>>106738265
Use case?

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>>106740023
use case for a normal search function?

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>>106739784
Skill issue. You probably couldn't even get Steam on Windows. Last time I checked on Kinoite I just installed some apps as flatpaks and fucked toolbox to get dev env. Unless they intentionally made it harder, you definitely were doing something wrong.
>>106739883
Same. They can't control major distros so they pour shitton of money to make "innovative" shit that people gonna consume, move away from "too oldfashioned" distros that were truly free to their progressive slop and boom, Fedora has AI built right into your taskbar, so convenient and easy to use. And the worst part is: it'll be too late.

>>106739759
>and fuck btrfs. it's too hard to recover
Translation: I don't want to hear about my hardware errors. I want a filesystem that quietly sails through them and wipes up the shitstains with fsck.

Is it worth going through the trouble of including the nvidia drivers module in my initramfs and creating a hook for it, or is installing the necessary packages enough?

>>106740242
>not wasting your time tinkering with a system is skill issue
Ok, kid. When, or if, you get a job and a life you'll hopefully change your mind.

>>106740445
Every system needs setup for your use case. You didn't pass that barrier. Too hard for you baka. Kinoite and Silver blue wereade for wide audience yet you act like it's nixos.

>>106740476
>Every system needs setup for your use case
Just installing an app isn't "setup"

>>106727929
yes, and I'm a trans btw.

>>106740386
I used to do it to have a high res tty but nowadays it just works without the nvidia module in the initramfs

>>106735389
I am on a high latency satellite connection and found both cake and cake-autorate to be worse than fq_codel

>>106740242
okay,
systemd is fine
jews are fine (though i disavow israel/intel/CIA)
>inb4 schizos get mad at me
linus is fine
just chill out and smoke some weed, schizo. you'll see Hitler in Heaven or something just calm down
>>106740652
can i suck your brown cock?
>>106740383
it's more like, the combination of compression and the way it stores multiple versions of the same file make it overcomplicated. even a small amount of corruption makes it unrecoverable. and, unlike other file systems, what it writes to the actual disk typically looks like nonsense, not files. ext4 all the way. i'd use xfs if it were more easily resizable

>>106740510
That's what you do in immutable fedoras tho? Install dee rpms and few flatpaks? If you're a dev you'll need proper devenv but I don't think shizzite makes that simpler.

>>106741065
It's them who are nazis tho. Think about Flatpak. Think about rpms. Think about immutability. One distro image, one package format, one way to get apps.

Damn I miss Terry. He could just send some shit to CIA from his OG Ubuntu with Unity while streaming from a van. Software got much worse since he passed away. I'm happy he didn't see this bullshit.

>>106741116
>OG Ubuntu with Unity
sucked. i used that shit too. it was mid but comfy. but that unity search? janky. snaps? also gross. ubuntu sucks. use openbsd if you're really off your meds
also, if rpms are so bad, wouldn't debs be bad, too? if you love source code so much, use gentoo. or maybe arch. unpacking .pkg.tar.zst should be easy enough

>>106736819
>zfs on linux is cucked by DKMS
Not if you're using RHEL/Alma/Rocky. The kmods are prebuilt.

>>106733910
It builds the dkms modules on install and blocks rebooting until they're built. What are you even talking about?

I did a dist-upgrade on Xubuntu and now folder shortcuts on the desktop are saying "Could not find fallback FileManager application", when I've only ever used Thunar.
Search results are useless and the AI summary is word salad.

>>106741250
What does

xdg-mime query default inode/directory

say? it should spit out your file manager, in my case it says

nemo.desktop

because nemo is my default file manager. I don't know what thunar's shortcut is named i will assume it's called

thunar.desktop

(replace this with whatever your thunar shortcut is actually called), in that case you need to set folders to open with thunar by default using

xdg-mime default thunar.desktop inode/directory

>>106741323 (me)
You should also check if thunar does have actually have a shortcut first and what it's called

ls -lah /usr/share/applications | grep -i thunar

>>106741323
It said
>xfce4-file-manager.desktop
The last command fixed it, thanks anon!

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>>106741355
You're welcome

Does Fedora KDE's Discover store not reflect the stuff I can use dnf to install? I can install a certain dependency with dnf but if I use the Discover program it won't be there.

>>106741532
sounds like yet another reason to never use GUI package managers. they're for new converts who need their hand held for a bit.

>>106741532
Discover only provides KDE-specific stuff and flatpak.

Is there really no hope of even trying to play late 2000s-mid 2010s games when Vulkan support is incomplete

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>Have an old laptop that ran like molasses in Windows 10.
>MS pissing me off with Win11 ads
>Nose dive into Linux with Endeavor
>EndeavorOS KDE ran nice but took forever to load
>Start over with LXQT
>Everything is fast
>Able to run HoloCure and PSO:BB with no issue
>RAM utilization is only 15% with nothing open.
Is this what it’s like to hold dominion over your computer?

>>106740023
GNOMED

>>106741925
Those were my jam. What are you trying to run?
>>106741948
>Is this what it’s like to hold dominion over your computer?
Yes. Patrician choice with LXQT.

>>106741981
It’s about 10 year old laptop. The minimal resources of EndeavorOS and LXQT really helps it. It feels brand new. I can’t believe it could play HoloCure fine.
PSOBB loaded slow in Windows. In Linux, it’s fast like a 20 year old game should load.

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i want to make small little tiling pngs like picrel for my desktop, programmatically. how do i achieve this? just plain ol' C? something like ffmpeg?

>>106742585
what?

Absolute fucking linix n00b here. Still learning my way around the terminal and setting it up. I've set up a theme with FastCat, fucked around with my font, but I'm wanting to get more in depth with making it look cool. Anyone know how I can give the terminal a glowing look? I saw a screenshot a while back where someone had even made their terminal look like it was a CRT style screen while their desktop did not. I really want to cyberpunk up my setup to help hold my interest in learning more about the CLI. If not specifically what I'm asking about, I'd like to try and learn to do something similar.

>>106742789
learn bash if you want to hold your interest. plenty of tutorials on youtube to get your feet wet then you can dive into the documentation.

>>106742789
Maybe it was cool-retro-term? Also seconding Bash, it's a huge help when working with Linux.

>>106738894
None of that sounds like a KDE issue. KDE won't break your games, for example.

>>106740934
Maybe purple Cake will be better there? I don't have a high latency satellite connection to test but it's supposed to be a better alternative to cake-autorate:
https://github.com/wine-group/purple

>>106742814
Yeah I'm slowly learning how to edit bash using the Nano editor. It's very strange using an in-terminal text editor when I'm used to using notepad files.
My goal right now is to learn how to make everything look how I want it to and understand the file system in-terminal, and then have a configuration ready to go when I upgrade my system. The laptop I have it installed on now only has a 400 gig hard drive, and modern games fill that in no time at all so I'm looking to upgrade the RAM and snag a 1TB or 2TB SSD.
>>106742877
I'll have to look that up, thank you.

>>106742602
i want to make small little tiling pngs like picrel (>>106742585) for my desktop, programmatically. how do i achieve this? just plain ol' C? something like ffmpeg?

>>106741065
>even a small amount of corruption
Why are you having any corruption? Do you not test before deployment? Do you not have ECC? The entire point of the filesystem is you don't randomly lose stuff.

I've been cross-checking the nvidia driver installation process outlined in the arch wiki to make sure I don't fuck up my own installation. Why are virtually all tutorials recommending I make modifications to my GRUB configuration file after I install the nvidia-open driver package? DRM mode will be enabled automatically with the nvidia-utils package, but even if I don't have that installed, since what we're modifying is module nvidia_drm, we need to use modprobe to get the job done. The GRUB config file passes arguments to the kernel itself. Am I getting this stuff right?

>>106743429
i pulled this out of my install notes for arch. it's for systemd-boot but the kernel options should be the same

modprobe nvidia NVreg_preserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1
#enable sleep/suspend services

#mkinitcpio.conf
MODULES=(nvidia nvidia_modeset nvidia_uvm nvidia_drm)
HOOKS=(base udev autodetect microcode modconf kms keyboard keymap consolefont block filesystems fsck

#LOADER
title Arch
linux /vmlinuz-linux
initrd /initramfs-linux.img  
options root=PARTUUID=*** rw nvidia_drm.modeset=1 nvidia-drm.fbdev=1

>>106727976
Alpine for Docker etc
seen a SLURM cluster of Calculate once

Upgrade to Kernel 6.14 or just stick with 6.8 for now? I heard 6.14 is better for newer hardware but with if I have a nVidia GeForce GTX 10-series card? Does it matter?

>>106743567
Old NVIDIA hardware isn't getting any better. It's completely abandoned by NVIDIA now so you have to use Nouveau without proper re-clocking support because NVIDIA refuses to release firmware for older hardware.

>>106743583
Or you use the legacy proprietary driver with an older kernel which I guess is what you're doing but don't expect it to be any good and it won't get proper Wayland support, etc, either.

>>106743567
10 series is supported by the 580 series drivers, which is the final release they'll have. If you're using a kmod like a normal person and not the .run file provided by nvidia, you'll be able to build it on any non-weirdo distro for years.

>>106743583
>>106743596
I see, thanks.

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>>106743640
Yeah, think I'm on the 580 series driver (don't know why the 550 is 'recommended'). Is Mint a non-weirdo distro? Might have to look into this kmod thing, first time I've heard of it.

>>106743673
afaik if you use the GUI method for installing the driver, it'll build a kmod. Not 100% certain as I'm using Fedora.

>>106743596
It will stop building one day if the kernel makes internal changes. NVIDIA will fix their latest drivers but might not backport fixes for the legacy driver.

>>106743719
Meant to tag: >>106743640

Although when it does break somebody will probably come up with a clever workaround / patch for it.

>>106743731
the legacy 340 drivers for 200 series cards still build on modern kernels, so I don't think it'll be an issue any time soon.

>>106743741
Probably not any time soon but as soon as the kernel does change something then it will be an issue.

>>106736855
>Works for me as well, KDE 6.4.4
>Weird as fuck option though to be honest
What kind of rock have you been living under? This is called auto-scrolling and has been around on windoze forever. It's a necessity at this point with all the javaschript bloat on websites with virtual scrolling and whatnot.

>>106739536
"Founder of @lutris." - a troon

surprise motherfucker

>>106739536
I tried umu recently but it's awful, not only insists it to open the game on the other monitor, keyboard and mouse are not working at all for the game. I'm back to directly running the wine from a ge-proton.

>>106739536
Use the flatpak? Also use cartridges, Lutris is abandonware

>>106743777
>This is called auto-scrolling
It's not. This particular feature freezes the mouse cursor in place and scrolling happens only when you move the mouse up or down.

What video editor is simple and easy to use? For example, I want to make tutorial video with text on top and some background music. Which one can I learn in 15 minutes to do all that?

I noticed something weird with the GIMP AppImages. The ARM version can be run outright, and pinning it to your taskbar works as expected (tested on a Raspberry Pi). But the x86 version extracts its contents to a temporary folder, and deletes said temp folder whenever closed. So not only is it constantly writing 200~MiB to disk whenever you launch it, you also can't even pin it to your taskbar since the temporary executable will be gone. Is there a way to package x86 GIMP into an AppImage that just runs outright, like any other executable?

>>106744827
Kdenlive

>>106741231
>and blocks rebooting until they're built
It literally doesn't. dracut runs before akmods finishes building the kernel module which of course leads to an initramfs without the module. You have to manually rerun dracut again after akmods is done.
See https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/how-to-make-dracut-automatically-add-nvidia-drivers-so-during-boot-i-have-both-my-monitors-working/109776

>>106741250
>Ubuntu just works guys, it's updates don't break the OS and require users to fuck around in the CLI
Funny. Where's the anti-bazzite schizo now.

>>106743777
It's been on Linux since forever too. It's just disabled by default because Linux uses the middle click to paste the last text you've selected. You can enable it in the Firefox settings.

>>106743205
I remember some guy made something similar by feeding /dev/urandom to ImageMagick to produce background with random tiles (https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106608151/#106610018)
You might wanna look for ImageMagick tutorials if that's what you want to do

>>106739147
> doesn't mean it's any different from "apt" or "dnf".
You know that rpm-ostree is ridiculously slow and takes like a hundred times longer to install anything using it?
You're not some larping faggot who doesn't actually use the distros you shill, right?

>>106740383
And how are you going to hear about those hardware errors? Nobody is going to check their dmesg for errors on a regular basis especially not new users.

>>106741925
In my experience whatever wine uses for dx9, dx10 and dx11 should work fine for older games instead of having to rely on dxvk

TUX PAINT BABEY YEAH

>>106741925
wine's built in wined3d translated d3d to opengl. last i checked up to d3d9, but i've heard people say it can do 10 or 11 these days. i've been using dxvk since it came out so i'm not sure. only time i've recently used wined3d was on a laptop from 2008, so that isn't even d3d11 capable so couldn't test that

>>106741925
You can load up an older distro release with gallium nine if your GPU supports that, or use the default wined3d if you can deal with how slow it is.

>>106734697
Arch doesn't have that problem being described with Nvidia so it's fedora specific.

>>106745408
You're not supposed to use it often enough for it to matter.

>>106741925
https://github.com/pythonlover02/Proton-Sarek

>>106745543
Oh right just like dnf and apt never using it often enough no different to them at all.

>>106745594
Exactly. All your software should be primarily sourced from Flathub. apt is something you would only use when updating.

Luv me LMDE
Simple as

>>106745541
It does if you don't embed the module in your initramfs.

Redshift completely fucks up my laptop screen (running xorg). Redshifting works but it's additive rather than absolute, e.g. setting it to 4000K lowers the temperature by 1500 or so and then running the same command to set it to 4000 again lowers the temperature by that much again, eventually the screen is super red.
Blueshifting back up makes the screen less red but it does this, not by bringing blue back up, but by actually bringing red down. The result is that the screen eventually gets normal colours but is immensely dim.

What the fuck is up with that? Is there a way I can fix my gamma manually after that happens, without restarting X? Any better way to get a redshifted screen in the evenings (that doesn't involve installing the entirety of KDE and/or GNOME)?

>>106745695
Use Cinnamon, it has a custom night light app that doesn't rely on redshift

>>106745642
>All your software should be primarily sourced from Flathub
At this point you're less a retard installing Fedora's flatpak repos on top of Debian so you're not running 30 different system libraries at the same time.

>>106745720
I should have said, that doens't involve installing the entirety of a DE I'm not using.
Can I install just the cinnamon night light "app" without using the entire DE? What's its name?

Flathub? No, thanks I prefer stacked women with massive milkers.

>>106745695
You're probably spawning multiple redshift processes instead of altering one. I haven't used it or X11 in years, but the easiest solution would be for you to kill the previous redshift process when you create a new one. How you do this entirely depends on how you're running redshift.
Also, doesn't every DE have a system tray GUI for it? I was using it on Xfce half a decade ago.

>>106745734
>thicchub.org domain is available for $10/year
Someone should create a Flathub competitor, there opportunity is right here.

>>106745751
You mean bustyhub right

>>106745817
That works too. bustyhub.org could be the frontend store, while thicchub.org could be the backend api.

>>106745736
I was using one-shot mode to test.
I guess it's possible one-shot mode is fucked, but the thing is at minimum bringing the screen back to normal should have worked without just killing my gamma completely and making everything ultra dim.
If I can't find anything maybe I'll try running it for an evening out as a last ditch attempt, maybe it actually works properly only in daemon mode, as unlikely as it sounds.

>doesn't ever DE have a system tray GUI
So I've heard but none that I use. I just want a standalone utility that works reeee. I'm not changing my entire desktop just to get night light, if I really can't find anything I'll just have to live without it.

>>106745828
Year of the linux desktop achieved instantly

>>106745685
Then that's done automatically or it's not even necessary. Both my screens come on during boot and display Plymouth although the AMD one is up slightly faster.

>>106727255
any downsides for dual-booting from the same SSD?

>>106745837
Looks like it hasn't been updated in 7 years and there's over 200 open issues on github.
https://github.com/jonls/redshift

I'm not sure if there's a fork or alternative. But yeah, I've only ever used the daemon mode and it was fine from my experience.

>>106745859
None aside from the usual inconveniences of dual-booting

>>106745872
I have tried gammastep too, which is allegedly an updated fork, to no success.
I guess I'll try daemon mode over one night then.

>>106745874
>aside from the usual inconveniences of dual-booting
such as?
the last time I tried linux was in... idk, like 10 years ago
but with windows being as is I'm willing to at least check it out (again)

>>106745421
>filesystem locks itself read-only
>well shit i better ask chatgpt what to do

>>106745895
>such as?
Having to reboot to change OS
Having to partition the disk and allocate space for each OS, requiring enough free space in the first place and then having a chunk of space dedicated to each that is less convenient to use from the other
Windows potentially being able to fuck up the bootloader (I've never had it happen to me but I've heard a bunch about this over the years, no idea if it still does it today)

>>106745642
>Its ok for rpm-ostree to be slow as shit and 100 times slower than apt or dnf because everything should be sourced from flatpak
Holy COPE
You're a fucking tech illiterate retard

>>106746049
>friendly ganoo linux thread
Sister, your low testosterone level anger is out of control, you need to get a test boost NOW.

>>106742585
You can use feh to set your background with

feh --bg-tile /path/to/your/image.png

.

Is SELinux worthwhile for desktop?

>>106746081
You could make a pseud argument for literally every single security thing being pointless, as just like in real life there doesn't exist a safe or door that can't be broken into some way, the logic is to make it as hard as possible for invaders so that they don't even bother or make it more difficult for them and save you from the less sophisticated attacks. But objectively it's a good security layer just LUKS full disk encryption or secure boot is.

>>106746061
Nothing very friendly about claiming rpm-ostree is no different from apt or dnf.

>>106746081
If you use Fedora there's no reason to turn it off. Very rarely if ever does it get in the way. No other desktop distro has SELinux worth mentioning. It's not something you can just turn on and benefit from. Someone has to put the time in to make policy for individual services.

>>106746134
trve, it's better

>>106746081
>>106746103
I'm pretty sure AppArmor is probably better for simple desktop uses. SELinux is notoriously ballache inducing unless you have nothing better to do than tinker with your ACL rules.
You can make equally pseud arguments that every single security measure reducing the risk of attacks, just as in real life you can always install a stronger door and more locks. But if you take this ad absurdum you end up with an airgapped PC in a locked vault room.

For daily use, a balance between security and usability is necessary, and SELinux is very ballbusting and not at all usable on desktop. Unless it comes built-in and preconfigured as per >>106746145. AppArmor is supposed to be a lot easier and might be worth it if you really want to improve your security.

>>106746169
I'd say the only actually good version of SELinux is in Fedora.

>>106746149
Better at being a hundred times slower

>>106746169
It's about striking a balance of security and convenience that doesn't get too much into annoying you during workflow. I don't have any issues with Silverblue's preconfigured SELinux policies, if once in a blue moon (only happened to me once) it causes me issues I fix it pretty easily. I only used AppArmor on Ubuntu LTS and from what I've seen it's much weaker than SELinux so obviously it'll be less annoying depending on what you do, but it'll also be a much weaker security defense.

>>106746145
Isn't Fedora not confining user apps?

>>106746197
Correct, they don't. It's more for servers really. They apply some basic policy but that's it. If you care about SELinux then you'd want to install the policy development tools and harden it a bit yourself.

I hate the complexity of SELinux though, AppArmor is much easier to develop for.

>>106746081
Better to have it than not. It's an additional layer of defense.
The only time it got ever into my way was when trying to play steam games from the steam flatpak on Opensuse, because it doesn't pull selinux-policy-targeted-gaming automatically that way.

hello
how do i get foobar2000 NekoRox Theme to work on linux mint?

>>106746197
It's pretty minimal. They have some restrictions for Firefox, Chrome, and a some common desktop services.

>>106746194
Yes of course it's a balance, and if it's preconfigured then it's nice. But my point is that if it's not, then it's almost certainly not worth doing it yourself, on the balance of things.
AppArmor is indeed weaker but it's also feasible to actually configure yourself. So if you're on a distro without premade MAC, and your choices are leaving it as-is, setting up selinux or setting up apparmor, then selinux is almost always far too much work; this leaves apparmor or nothing as the realistic choices, and apparmor is definitely better than nothing.

Also I've never used fedora myself but if >>106746357 is correct then even fedora doesn't really provide much selinux configuration. So you don't even have those mythical "pre-configured selinux distros" at all at this point. Well, except Android.

>>106744827
This: >>106744903
And I barely use it, but I can find a tutorial for whatever I need to do pretty easily. Once you get the hang of it, it's pretty simple and straight forward. Only thing easier is probably Windows Movie Maker, but the tools are very limited (not to mention they discontinued it years ago; it doesn't even come installed on windows anymore, and its no longer available through official means).

>>106746425
>NekoRox
Use case for nya themes? https://old.reddit.com/user/Peryneri

>>106746723
wtf is this link?

>>106746757
some russian nonnie from here that posts about indians all day

>>106734402
TempleOS

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>>106738894
>as I download 3terabytes of japanese porn
JAV? Are they subtitled? Any good NTR-themed stuff?

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>>106746813
>ntr-themed
gemmy

>>106746134
>something is slower
>therefore it's different
I spotted the mouth-breather.
Also, it's slower because it's keeping your system immutable. Which is superior if you don't want to get fucked by a random update because your package manager didn't clean up after itself like here >>106741250

>>106746192
Tell me when apt and rpm implement a way to conveniently list and undo changes.

>>106746861
>Tell me when apt and rpm implement a way to conveniently list and undo changes.
No idea about Apt, but RPM is an archive format, you probably meant Dnf which has built-in support for rollbacks:
https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/10/html/managing_software_with_the_dnf_tool/handling-package-management-history

>>106738894
>>106746813
kill yourself normienigger

>>106746983
>dnf history undo <transaction_ID>
That's pretty nice actually. Jesus fuck why are people constantly shilling Debian-based distros when Fedora is clearly the best one?

>>106747051
Debian is a mental illness, unironically.

>>106746861
>its not different, its just slower, more useless, and doesnt do the same thing as apt or dnf! m-mouthbreather!
You really are tech iliterate
>ell me when apt and rpm implement a way to conveniently list and undo changes.
That's not a package managers job, use snapshots and backups.

>>106747051
Fedora does dumb things like forcing wget2 and the whole rpmfusion problem. Also a lot of normalfag proprietary stuff still provides a .deb but no rpm like signal and spotify. can't remember if chrome has an rpm or not since i dont use chrome.

>>106746861
>>106747051
>>106747243
While debian doesn't have this feature by default you can get it with nala, it's a front-end for apt.
It's actually one of the first things I install on debian and use instead of apt, it even has the same syntax as dnf:
>nala history undo <transaction_ID>
Furthermore, nala, unlike apt, can actually do parallel downloads which actually noticeably increased my download speed quite a lot. I suggest everyone who is using apt to use nala instead.

>>106748053
Is nala faster than apt or does nala also use dpkg under the hood?
Did nala have something to do with the output of apt now looking different compared to before?

>>106747977
>can't even comprehend immutability or state machines
>calls others tech illiterate
commit sudoku

>>106747977
>manage the system state with a 3rd party utility
>or
>manage the system state with the thing that actually changes it
If you think the first option is correct, you're retarded.

>>106748095
It's only faster when downloading, otherwise it's the same speed as apt as far as I can tell. It's a front-end for apt meaning it uses apt under the hood which of course in turn uses dpkg under the hood.
>Did nala have something to do with the output of apt now looking different compared to before?
nala isn't installed by default on debian, you need to install it with 'apt install nala'. Despite the changes in the output of apt, it still looks horrible and I would prefer nala's neatly organized tables instead.

>>106748112
>doesnt even know about the ext4 5% default reserved space
>doesnt know about mint and ubuntu having an easy one click update button
>thinks rpm-ostree is equal to dnf and apt despite rpm-ostree being hundred times slower to install a single package
>who knows what else you've been wrong about
You're tech illiterate
>>106748121
>using different tools for different jobs
>or
>one bloated tool trying to do multiple jobs but doing all of them badly
The first option is correct and you are tech illiterate.

>>106748144
> It's a front-end for apt meaning it uses apt under the hood which of course in turn uses dpkg under the hood.
That's unfortunate i hope one day dpkg will get some performance upgrades but it might not be possible.
I know nala is a different package i was just curious if those recent apt changes had anything to do with nala

>debian shits itself on 8tb ssd
>works fine on 2tb one
I just...

>>106741161
Idk how old Ubuntu sucked. Before snaps that is.
>if rpms are so bad
They aren't bad. But those nazis push it to be the one and only format. Currently they fail so they switched tactics to push "universal" shit like flatpak with rpms being only used for the core system.

>>106748523
flatpak is actually universal. Its security model doesn't assume certain MAC rules and you can use any distro as a base. snap introduces pathlogical dependencies on Ubuntu and Canonical.

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>>106748523
Canonical was always a meme company trying to push their weird standards but ultimately giving up on them or half-baking them.
>Idk how old Ubuntu sucked
Ubuntu always sucked. It's just that other distributions sucked even more so it was one of the best options until around 2020.
>Before snaps that is
The last controversy before snaps was automatically baking Amazon search results into whatever you type in their application search menu.

Canonical completely gave up on anything that's not server-related last decade and Ubuntu Desktop has been suffering ever since. Arguably it is becoming less relevant as a desktop compared to its forks and even distributions that would be considered meme or niche in the past. There were a few images shared here on how their market share on Steam has fallen off year by year over the past 10 years.
>inb4 who cares about gamers
Still a relevant statistic and probably the only good one we have for home users and new users.

I personally welcome any competition. Even if it is Fedora distributions which push Flatpaks or atomic systems and "Arch made simple" distributions like Cachy and Endeavour. At least there is more good options now instead of a decade ago when your only "stable and beginner distro" was either Ubuntu, one of its flavors, "Ubuntu but green" or "Ubuntu but blue".

Is running firefox through flatpak more or less secure than using bubblewrap?

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>>106749514
Flatpak uses bubblewrap, doesn't it? So it should be the same.

>>106749535
>image

re: >>106749133
Here's the Steam stats mentioned.

New >>106749651

>>106749535
The firefox sandbox gets disabled under flatpak while still works under bubblewrap

>>106749781
I assume that would depend on what privileges you run it with, no? If you drop all of the same capabilities that Flatpak would then I imagine it won't be able to run the sandbox as it requires a certain set of privileges to do so.
This is why it's unfair to point out that Flatpak "breaks" sandboxes, no, it doesn't "break" them. It's just reducing the set of privileges available to it so that it can't do the privileged actions required to run the sandbox. It shouldn't mean that the app is any more or less secure.

>>106749781
The browser sandbox relies on mechanisms which flatpak finds insecure and blocks by default, with some being disabled completely. Bubblewrap is more flexible and allows you to give the application permissions it needs for the sandboxing.
If you want the same protection from bubblewrap as flatpak provides, you'll have to break the browser sandbox.

>>106749514
In general, bwrap can be made more secure (but you'll also lose browser sandboxing).
Flatpak is just bubblewrap + package manager + standardized runtime environment, all in a convenient and user friendly package.

You don't need more than AppImages

>>106750118
AppImages are shit because they have no built-in update mechanism. It's like going back to Windows where you have to manually go to the website and download the new .exe file.

>>106750141
Gear Lever handles this for you. And there is an AppImage app store already which does the same.
But sure, ideally current package managers would default to getting an appimage for you and adding it into your PATH.

>>106750141
appimages do have a built-in update mechanism when a .zsync file is provided you just need an external program to handle the updating

>>106750495
>you just need an external program
So it's not built-in then. Your format is shit if you have no official package manager and sandbox runtime.

Needing to use third-party tools automatically invalidates it.

>>106750831
>Needing to use third-party tools automatically invalidates it.
>hurr durr format works differently therefore it's invalid
No, the whole point of Appimage is that you don't need a package manager or runtime to use it. But if you want the experience of a package manager, then AppImageLauncher exists. Crying about it being a 3rd party tool is like crying about apt being a 3rd party tool compared to getting a package directly from source.

>>106750909
>The point of the format is to be shit by default
Does it do anything right?
>No official package manager
>Requires insecure and deprecated libfuse2
>No runtimes / resource sharing so every AppImage has to bundle everything even if you have multiple AppImages that use the same libraries (takes up more disk space)
>No sandboxing
>No desktop integration without a third-party daemon

>>106751010
>easy to use
>easy to archive
>reasonable cross-distro support