>>106767970
More like Microsoft cured Linux.
>Linux only started becoming relevant when gamers started getting into it
>The owner of the company behind SteamOS and Proton is a former Microsoft engineer
>The main maintainer of Bazzite is a former Microsoft engineer
>Microsoft started sabotaging themselves on purpose in order to push more people into using Linux
Linux would be NOTHING without Microsoft.

>>106768220
>if you commit suicide, you win

>>106768220
I'm just waiting for Microsoft to add a desktop to Azure Linux

lubie linux pozdrawiam Rafał

>>106768220
>started to become relevant when gamers...
source: steam survey
>steamos and proton
neither were major advancements in linux gaming. they're 99.9% community code that already existed

>>106768220
Take your meds. Now.

>>106768908
The major advancements are in the Kernel and Mesa drivers. Valve has invested so much in that and it's really payed off. They improved the performance for everyone.

>>106768919
i do appreciate what they've done, i just don't like people who suggest linux gaming did or would suck without them. things were going quite well before it, which is likely why they started using it (it being wine and dxvk).

>>106768938
It wouldn't have sucked but it wouldn't have been where it is today without them. Things like the ACO shader compiler brought a much needed performance boost to games. The LLVM shader compiler that was used before was not very good at all. None of this matters for NVIDIA users of course, but for AMD this was a big boost.

I am extremely confused by the arch wiki and other sources info about bluray support on Linux.

I wanted to start grabbing physical media because trying to keep a whole digital library of pirated content is a bit of a hassle. The way the wiki reads, if I buy a new disc, it can make all my old movies unwatchable by forcing the drive to update and revoke existing keys? There’s shit about flashing custom firmware but it’s unclear what exactly this does for me, like if I do it does everything “just work” after that?

I understand the keys database, but if something isn’t in the keys database, I’m a little confused what the next steps are. Is this something that can be cracked reasonably on a home pc?

I also own a HEN enabled ps3 with an “official” bluray drive, if that helps me do anything. I don’t mind jumping through hoops if that lets me get keys to share with others.

Normally for software I’d just fuck with it and if it breaks, try again, but since these drives start at 50 bucks for the cheapest Chinese shit, I’m a little more concerned about diving in. Makemkv seems to be a common recommendation, but their website seems broken and the pages that do work look like mid-2000s sketchware. I finally got the forum to load and there’s people selling pre-flashed drives with high mark ups, or they want to remote into my machine and flash it for me. The whole thing reeks of danger.

I do have windows available if that makes things less painful, but rebooting to windows to watch a movie is a pain. Not against it if it’s significantly easier or less prone to breaking, just would rather not.

>>106768938
You're severely underestimating the influence Valve has and the importance of actually funding developers. Compared to Valve CodeWeavers is very fucking tiny, only focused on WINE and nothing else, and they have absolutely no influence.
Keep in mind that Valve was also involved in calling Wayland developers indecisive retards, telling Ubuntu and Fedora maintainers to not be retarded and wait before dropping 32bit support, funding KDE development, etc.
Even if you argue that their improvements were minimal, they still were improvements. The last 10% of polish often matters a lot more than the first 90% of the actual product.

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I like linux mint but sometimes the small shit adds up. Linux mint's glibc is too outdated to use Anki directly, have to use some shit called flatpak? And don't get me started on trying to install a python package called slycot. It filtered me, it could not be done.

>>106769146
>telling Ubuntu and Fedora maintainers to not be retarded and wait before dropping 32bit support
Valve is actually the retards here. Apple already dropped it. Did you call out them too or did you do the needful and update Steam for macOS to no longer need 32-bit libraries?

There's absolutely zero need to make the client 32-bit only. Make it 64-bit, use Wow64 for Wine/Proton and run a container with a 32-bit runtime for old/legacy 32-bit only Linux games (you already have Pressure Vessel, this should be easy).

There's no need for them to drag their feet with 64-bit support.

does anyone tried to install foobar2000 with the neko rox theme on whichever linux distro.. preferably mint
im trying to escape windows.. i dont wanna go back..

>>106769205
Is deadbeef any good as an alternative to foobar2k?

>>106769193
Are you shitposting or completely misinformed?

The client is completely irrelevant. The main problem is that Linux doesn't have an equivalent of WOW64 to run 32bit software on 64bit systems. It only has multilib, which is exactly what Ubuntu and Fedora wanted to drop. Without multilib, you can say goodbye to over half of peoples' games.
It would be a shitshow if 32bit libraries were dropped before Proton 10 got released. At least with Proton 10 you can play the 32bit Windows version.

>>106769413
If you run a container for that then you don't need host multilib support. You only have issues if you drop the 32-bit support in the Linux kernel (like OpenSUSE did recently, but you can change that with a kernel parameter because they didn't drop it completely)

>>106769431
By container, I mean Valve's scout runtime or whatever it's called. There's no technical reason to keep the client 32-bit only.

>>106769450
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime

>>106769384
foobar2000 works perfectly fine on mint, no audio delays and glitches. just set up your wine correctly. i think am i close to making neko rox work on mint through wine and winetricks

>>106769431
>>106769450
>>106769454
Basically, the only thing stopping a container from working as far as I know is that Valve doesn't ship graphics drivers with their runtime (like Freedesktop.org does with their Flatpak runtime).

If they solve that then there is basically no need for host 32-bit libs anymore. As long as there is 32-bit support enabled in the kernel still then all of this crap can run contained in a container (or not at all since I imagine "half of people's libraries" are 64-bit only now anyway)

>>106767485
>>106767540
>>106767598
Help

>>106769484
Are you still trying to hibernate without logind? Use the old/deprecated pm-suspend utilities.

>>106769491
Nono
My question comes from a desire for knowledge.
I am wondering why it works because I don't quite understand how the behaviour around access control and such is achieved.

I only run seatd, I don't have elogind installed, which has me wondering why I can still just do loginctl (which came from dbus) to suspend. It made me wonder how those components interact with each other.

>>106769542
If you have loginctl then you do have logind (either elogind, or Systemd's logind)

>>106769581
>>106769542
If I had to guess you are using Seatd's logind plugin. It has support for using logind under the hood (seatd is basically an abstraction over different session managers)

>>106769581
>>106769592
Oh I see. You are right, I am being a bit retarded here, sorry.
Should go back to the manuals for a bit.
>>106769592
Could, in theory, a distro be set up in a way that seatd pulls in elogind as a dependency?

Any good resources for standing up k8s?
I dont even know what to host with it or do with it. I just want experience, but also want to get something somewhat practical.

>>106769431
Containers are unnecessary overhead

>>106769484
Seatd cant handle loginctl stuff.

>>106769708
>Worrying about unnecessary overhead when you're running 32-bit binaries
Any modern system could run that crap at a billion FPS anyway

>>106769680
Whats supposed to be the difference between kubernetes and regular podman?

>>106769726
Libraries for compatibility and a whole docker container are two different things

>>106769744
Steam already has a container runtime and it uses Pressure Vessel by default (it just doesn't contain everything and still uses your hosts graphics drivers). The cat is already out of the bag, it's a bit late to be worrying about this now.

>>106769166
what's wrong with flatpak?

>>106769758
Doubt its using up as much overhead as docker is

>>106769799
It's not Docker that's why. It's based off Bubblewrap which is what Flatpak uses. The overhead is negligible compared to the game itself anyway and all of the efficiencies of shared host libraries don't exist because nothing else on your system is using 32-bit libraries anyway. We're at the point where ever distro includes 32-bit multilib just for Steam.

>>106769789
Flatpak takes up 3x the disk space than a regular package.

I love Ubuntu so much, bros. I run one script to throw snaps in the dumpster and then it's all comfy. :)

>>106769789
do i have to run this fuckin' command everytime I open Anki?
I'll forget it!
flatpak run net.ankiweb.Anki

>>106769888
there should be a directory in either /var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin or ~/.local/share/flatpak/exports/bin that shorten the command to just net.ankiweb.Anki or you can either alias it or make your own shell wrapper

>>106769888
>do i have to run this fuckin' command everytime I open Anki?
no, there should be *.desktop entry installed with it

>>106769949
>alias it
o i forgot about this. good call.

>>106769450
>>106769454
No, it doesn't solve the issue. Current Linux runtimes still fail to load 32bit games unless you have multilib.

>>106769480
>the only thing stopping a container from working as far as I know is that Valve doesn't ship graphics drivers with their runtime
So we're in the agreement that Valve was correct into convincing Ubuntu and Fedora to not drop multilib.

>>106769708
Stop having autism. Even entire virtual machines only introduce around 1%-4% performance overhead at most.

>>106769833
Let's not pretend storage matters. A system exclusively running flatpaks will take up maybe 15GB-25GB more space than one which doesn't. It's been measured and discussed before. If you're really suffering this much by not having that extra space then you have much bigger problems which can at least be solved with a $3 USB drive.

>>106770130
>No, it doesn't solve the issue. Current Linux runtimes still fail to load 32bit games unless you have multilib.
>>106770130
>So we're in the agreement that Valve was correct into convincing Ubuntu and Fedora to not drop multilib.
They should fix their current runtime to not depend on host libs.

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>>106769581
>>106769592
>>106769714
nta but how would one begin to setup comfortable ways for basic Laptop suspend (think lid close for example) without (e)logind?
Outdated pm-suspend stuff the only option there?

>>106770154
>Outdated pm-suspend stuff the only option there?
Pretty much, yes. You can also just interact with the interface the kernel provides you:
https://docs.kernel.org/power/basic-pm-debugging.html

Use something like acpid to do that on an even like laptop lid closing.

>>106770130
>flatpaks will only take up double the space of one that doesnt
>this isnt an issue
>who cares about more writes, or systems stuck with smaller disk space
Like as you just said: stop having autism.
And its hilarious you think virtual machines only introduce around 1%-4% performance overhead.

>>106770154
If you're talking about a way to automate suspend when closing the lid you can use acpid
If you mean an alternative command for suspending and hibernation. There's a prog called zzz you might be able to use depending on your distro or you can write a script to echo the proper command to /sys/power/state

convince me to switch to void linux

>>106770209
Are you that bot that's always trying to stir up shit? Stop shitposting and spreading FUD.

>>106770269
>being called a bot and accused of spreading fud because a flatpak package takes up 3x the disk space compared to a normal package.
The fuck is wrong with you? take your meds.
Friendly thread btw.

>>106770209
nta but modern (over 10 years ago at this point) virtualization extensions in Intel and AMD processors are near native. you won't be able to tell a difference unless your numa nodes or processor pinning is hanky because you diy stupidly.

i want one of those physical hardware usb-c keys, is yubikey really worth it or can i just get something cheaper like a fido2? what features would i be missing on?
i'm looking for one that is usb-c (no dongle) works well with macos, ios and linux and has nfc

>>106770468
have you looked at nitrokeys?
Yubikey has started doing some very jewish things a few years ago.

>>106770258
why would you?
Want stability? use debian
Want newer software? use arch
Want more software? use arch with AUR or use flatpak with any distro
don't want systemd? there's devuan and artix, which are debian and arch but without systemd

The only use case I see for void linux is if you want something between arch and debian and without systemd as void linux is described as "Stable rolling release"
Also I'm not sure how good its package manager is but i sometimes hear people complain about the lack of software in its repositories, so make sure all the software you want to install is there (this can also be mitigated with the use of flatpak, assuming you are willing to use it)

>>106770344
>keeps shitting on people for having different opinions/preferences
>keeps shitting on distros except his pet favorites
>keeps denying reality by making claims that are either edge cases or completely irrelevant to the overwhelming majority of users
>keeps making false claims and selling them as facts, clearly showing he's a tech illiterate
>keeps spreading FUD
>but always tells people "friendly thread btw"

This >>106770388 is correct. By all benchmarks made in the past 10 years (both synthetic and running actual software/games), the performance difference between a VM and native is consistently under 4% especially in CPU and GPU related tasks.

>>106770491
>nitrokeys
i haven't, i know close to nothing about these things
what has yubico done wrong? i'm probably not getting one because they're stupidly expensive on amazon where i live lol, is the "trustkey" brand ok?

>>106770501
I haven't done any of this. You entered the thread and called people autistic and then spreaded actual FUD. Stop gaslighting.

>>106770509
> yubikey
Not open source. (tbf few are fully open source down to hardware, but others at least publish their firmware source code)
Dropped open source PGP for their own proprietary cryptolib.
Despite having a known vulnerability, they kept selling old stock with the vulnerable firmware on them. [1]
Now for the latter: the vulnerability itself wasn't a huge disaster, hard to exploit. It's the fact that a security sensitive company doesn't immediately scrap vulnerable devices and just keeps selling them is a red flag imo

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42110901

does replacing "stable" with "testing" in the debian sources.list still work to update a WSL2 Debian to testing (forky)?

>>106770509
forgot to add: sorry can't comment on the trustkey brand

>>106769123
After a bunch more reading I’ve decided that it’s easier to pirate movies than pay for them. Absolutely infuriating.

Suppose my next question is just how do y’all store large amounts of pirated content without worrying about data loss and drive failures. I assume HDDs are the go-to, they’re just not great for long term data storage. Not really a Linux specific question I guess unlike my original one so I’ll show myself the door if there’s no advice.

>>106770904
For seeding from home, NAS are popular. Or you could outsource it and rent a seedbox, then stream through Plex.
Or just get into Usenet and download things.
Or stream through stremio.

>>106770807
I assume it would, but first modernize your sources first by running 'apt modernize-sources' and then consult the debian wiki:
https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
Also don't forget to make backups with timeshift or any other similar utility before you upgrade.

i have done it. I have achieved nirvana.
I finished setting up nixos with impermanence and all the related crap, and now I delete the root partition and reinstall the system on every boot, and nothing not declared persists

>>106771089
thanks anon. it's a non-essential WSL2 install, but yeah I'll try that modernize sources thing, didn't even know that was a thing.

>>106771142
>and now I delete the root partition and reinstall the system on every boot, and nothing not declared persists
You're deleting the root partition every time you boot?

>>106771193
to be precise, every time I shutdown, but yes

>>106771198
That's a lot of pointless disk writes although something must be lingering around on disk for it to be able to rebuild the system in the first place.

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>>106770169
>>106770246
So with elogind once I install it, suspend just works™ for me. (systemd less distro)
If I understand that right I could for example write a script for acpid that does that too.

So that makes me wonder, what would need to be added to seatd to add that functionality? (regardless of whether they would ever do that or not)
Would it be hard? In the end these features and such are already part of the kernel and essentially just kind of like key presses that would need to be read and acted upon by some daemon running in the background?

>>106771277
To clarify: With just works I mean I install elogind, and it will just correctly suspend my laptop on lid close from there on.
Same functionality I mean when I talk about adding to seatd.

>>106771277
I dont think seatd is interested in adding that functionality since one of its original jobs was for wlroots based desktops to run without needing (e)logind

>>106771277
>>106771322
The Gentoo Wiki has a comprehensive example of using Acpid:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ACPI#Advanced_examples

It uses the hibernate-ram script from:
https://gitlab.com/nigelcunningham/Hibernate-Script

>>106771354
Yeah I am aware. As I said I was speaking hypothetically.
Basically in a "where does this functionality live" or how does one begin to write a proper daemon that does that alongside something minimal like seatd

>>106770258
I wouldn't recommend it

>>106771379
Like said before, acpid can be used for putting the laptop to sleep on lid detection.
You can re-create the root-less loginctl commands by just setting a nopass option for those commands with sudo
Suspend/Hibernate commands can be found in alternate commands like zzz although you've never mentioned which distro you're using so it may or may not be packaged.

>>106771357
Bruh that shit is ancient.

>>106771256
nix store is persistent.
nixos is just symlink witchcraft, so what I'm actually wiping and rewriting is just a bunch of symlinks to the store.
The point is to have a deterministic(ish) way of building the system, wiping root is just proving it

>>106765792
Yes, you can mount a Hetzner Storagebox, just enable the Samba sharing option.

NixOS chads, we won. troons lost.

>>106771639
great job on your childlike bickering victory on current cultural bullshit

What makes Nix better than Guix?

>>106771750
i'm sorry you cut your dick off and are having second thoughts. my condolences

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Bros... I just learned that Xue is female...

>>106771902
Oh thank God. I was being very insecure about being attracted to Xue. Now I have nothing to be ashamed of.

>anon why do you have so many pictures of penguins? it's weird.

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>>106767970
the fuck is this I HATE RUST

>>106764170
>>106765441
>Linux kernel <= 6.11
>Opensuse Leap. Kernel 6.12
Trolling on 4chan, in October 2025, in /fglt/ of all boards and threads ; or not familiar with "<=" ?

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*breaks for no fucking reason*
Fuck this piece of shit. Stuck at 480p with no internet connection after restart.

Is there any potential performance to be gained by using a different scaling driver other than intel_pstate, or am I just better off leaving that and any governor settings alone?

>>106768220
Why do Windows fanboys always get so booty blasted at the irrelevant OS that nobody uses?

>>106773013
I wouldn't touch it unless idle is too hot

>>106773013
The intel_pstate driver is the one specifically built for the hardware that takes advantage of its pstates (the clue is in the name). There's no point using the generic driver.

>>106771535
Indeed. Everyone just uses elogind nowadays because why make your life harder for no measurable reason.

I'm in the process of configuring Reflector. Is there a recommended amount of mirrors to use?

>>106767970
A few threads back someone suggested tumbleweed and I doubted you, but now I am converted. I think rolling-release with snapshot-rollback support is a fantastic idea. I'm comfy.

>>106773420
Whatever the default number is. It's not going to use them all anyway since pacman will try the first and won't use any of the others unless that top ranked one fails.

Kind of a bummer that you can't keep BTRFS snapshots of /boot if it's in its own partition

I have a few questions friends:

Whats the best way to name my folders? I have been going for 00_xyz, 01_xyz, 02_xyz and so on. Is there a standard to do this? or is some method better than others?

How do I fully automate arandr, xrandr commands? I do not use a screen at home but I have 2 monitors in my office. Is there a more elegant way to handle this other than executing the xrandr command on startup (if the screens are connected it will work, if not I will just have my laptop screen)?

How do you guys handle video/music naming/metadata? I used yt-dlp to download some of the dj mixes that I listen to from youtube. However, even with the metadata command from yt-dlp, they are all over the place and inconsistent. How do I handle them all in 1 go?

Also another question is that I regularly update the playlist of dj mixes that I have on youtube, how do I make sure that I only download the stuff that I did not download previously? Only thing I can think of is to save the links on some file and then disregard them when I am downloading with yt-dlp?

I want pointers to make KDE look more like i3wm. Simple boxes with colored outlines (in my case, blue). I already figured out how to style Konsole's main window, with blue "default" text and a blurred background. Now it's just a matter of making everything else have that look for consistency

>Download Baldurs Gate 2 ISO
>try install
>finally figure out how to install inLutris
>error there's no executable
what?
>been looking through the files and no excutable was created
why?, how do fix this?

want to check it out if I like it enough to by it on steam

>>106773992
>ISO
If it's a repack or something you can generally extract the ISO and run the installer through Lutris but it's safer to just get it from gog-games to

just discovered gnuplot, truly a great piece of software. i just integrated it into my shortest path algorithm testing program so it can highlight paths.

>>106773992
The exe should be inside the wine prefix that lutris used. Then just edit the entry to point at it.

>>106774417
>The exe should be inside the wine prefix that lutris used. Then
Its not, there's no . exe anywhere,but the game does install correctly

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AAAHHH i cant choose for new laptop to test, someone just pick for me

>>106774997
Why not just use Ventoy and load both of the ISOs off one disk

>>106773755
>How do you guys handle video/music naming/metadata? I used yt-dlp to download some of the dj mixes that I listen to from youtube. However, even with the metadata command from yt-dlp, they are all over the place and inconsistent. How do I handle them all in 1 go?
You edit it manually with:
https://kid3.kde.org/

The tool did exactly what you told it to. It can't know the metadata is "all over the place", it just put the metadata from YouTube in the tags.

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>>106775016
>Ventoy
already, but dunno which one to test first, want to at least run them baremetal for a week and need to test winapps and/or winboat

>>106775026
Do you prefer Arch package manager or Fedora package manager?

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>>106775070
no preference. just care about virtualization? for this specific scenario. guess fedora since that has less babysitting and breakage? this laptop is not for personal use, is for another person, family member that will just run microsoft office and browser.

>>106775026
Well one is Arch based, the other is Fedora based. Cachy is like Endeavour but it also included its own kernel tweaks. Nobara is basically a hard Fedora fork focused on gaming and content creating.

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just got ebussy'd for the first time
>hjkl doesn't work in gnome's new pdf reader
>the feature did exist but was removed because the dev thinks that annotation shortcuts are more important than keyboard navigation

Is anyone else getting build failures compiling Qemu with GTK support on Gentoo? I mostly use the SDL backend anyway so disabled the USE flag for now but it'd still be nice to have.

>>106775660

../ui/gtk-egl.c: In function ‘gd_egl_init’:                                                                                                                                       
../ui/gtk-egl.c:54:5: error: unknown type name ‘Window’; did you mean ‘AtkWindow’?                                                                                                
   54 |     Window x11_window = gdk_x11_window_get_xid(gdk_window);                                                                                                               
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../ui/gtk-egl.c:54:25: error: implicit declaration of function ‘gdk_x11_window_get_xid’; did you mean ‘gdk_window_get_width’? [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]                                              

>>106775313
tbf even in vim those keys are retarded. can't imagine why gnome supported them in the first place

>>106775313
So are they going to use h, j, k and l for shortcuts? Their explanation doesn't make any sense.

>>106775671
They're all on your right hand in the centre of the keyboard. It actually makes a lot of sense.

>>106775677
i know the justification, but I can move my hand, and arrow keys always work whereas hjlk depends on mode.

>>106775677
ijkl would be easier to use than hjkl

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fuck it. i'm going to turn auto updates on my ubuntu server. i don't care anymore. it's a glorified nas. i never ssh into it or do any updates.

>>106767970
I have arch running on desktop. Basically, the desktop was sitting in my closet for maybe 6 months and I never updated it because I was too busy to set it back up, only using an Ubuntu laptop in the mean time. After all these months I finally booted it back up, but noticed it doesn't fully update because some depedencies conflict or whatever.... it's been so long I don't know what's what. Am I better off just saving my /home folder and switching to Fedora?? serious question. I want something more stable. I'm past the tinkering stage and really just need something reliable and that's not hanging on by a thread. My Arch system now only boots into a tty... idk what happened to gdm. Can't find out how to enter into Cinnamon like I used to... such a headache... Fedora looks promising tho ngl. I'm used to Gnome anyways, after using Ubuntu for a while... Currently in the process of backing up my /home folder just in case I do make the switch. Arch hasn't completely nuked itself just yet.

>>106775730
If you rest your right hand on the keyboard without looking it will naturally go to jkl so you only have to move your finger across from j to h if you need to move left which is rare because most of the time you're scrolling up/down

>>106775738
Fedora is okay
I don't like that their partition scheme doesn't work with snapshots, so you need other backup methods like Pika backup

>>106775801
but which one was up and which one was down again? Ah screw this, I'll just use thw arrows (which also work in insert mode). And this repeats over and over and I'll never get used to homerow.

>>106775815
Left
Down
Up
Right

Or you can, you know, just press the key and figure it out straight away. When you do it enough it becomes muscle memory.

>>106775827
or I just use the arrows which is faster since I don't have to probe the direction there.

>>106775827
It also helps that Vim-keys are sort of an unofficial convention in a lot of software too, so when you see it once and start to see it again in more and more different software then it becomes second nature.

>>106775839
Develop muscle memory and you won't have to "probe" it every time, or maybe see a doctor about your poor memory.

>no systemd
>install gnome anyway
>wallpaper
>can't tile, stretch, zoom, scale, or crop
>feature removed
>MFW no face, feature removed. no usecase.

Truly peak software efficiency, very minimal and pragmatic. No nonsense just works philosophy, no need to tinker.

In all honesty though, maybe I'm starting to see why windows hasn't changed the wallpaper menu since windows 95.
and I'm saying that as a huge windows hater.

>>106775858
because it was perfect from the start

>>106775858
Meanwhile on KDE:
>We've got slideshows
>We've got scaling, centring, cropping and tiling
>We've got day and night wallpapers
>We've got animated wallpapers
>We've got Wallpaper Engine
>Just want a static colour? No problem.

>>106772971
Is your /boot or / full?
Do this and reboot:

sudo apt autoremove
sudo apt install -f
sudo update-initramfs -u

>>106775806
What do you recommend then, if I'm switching from arch to something more stable? I'm looking for something more refreshing... not the same Linux mint, Ubuntu, Debian variety... I was also thinking RedHat, but doesn't that cost money?

>>106775999
Also, I just finished backing up all my important files, I may sit on this arch installation, maybe even try to patch it, until it does completely fall apart. I just need to keep my backups updated with any new files I add to my current install of arch

>>106775999
OpenSUSE has variants from bleeding edge (Tumbleweed) to stable edge (Slowroll) to stable (Leap).
Also there's PCLinuxOS, OpenMandriva, Mageia and Slackware.

>>106775884
Also you have code execution in /usr when you install a sddm theme! Which is kinda based if you wanna get pwned.

>>106774192
>>106774417
went to PB and got the GOG release, installed with win 7 thingy and it runs now perfectly, so yeah I guess ill look for GOG now before buying on steam, thanks

>>106776033
Anything that can write to /usr can already pwn your system. Also, Sddm is not a KDE project. They have their own display manager they've been working on to replace it.

>>106770904
buy manufacturer recertified enterprise drives, sounds sketch BUT they always have only like 3-5k power-on hours and i've been using them for years without issue. 48tb raid5 array with 32tb usable and 600mb/s read/write, was less than $500.

to back up blurays buy an asus sata blu-ray drive on amazon, they can be flashed with custom firmware and used with makeMKV to losslessly save movies to an mkv with all sound-tracks and subtitles, as well as special features. quality is way higher than pirate re-encodes (but each 4k bluray takes like 80-100gb of disk space)

>>106775858
Just Install systemd, artixtard. It's not gonna hurt you.

>>106776042
nigger there's no point, I already can get gnome running.
besides, I don't know how to use systemd, and it's functions are too cumbersome for my purposes.

Not on Artix either, arch is shit.

what's the lightest distro I could get for a very, very old laptop, a SONY VAIO, I think it only had 2gb ram, basically It just needs to be able to do word stuff (libre office) and normie browsing for a older sibling

>>106776039
So why doesn't KDE disable the global theme installer window then but just keeps a warning sign above it?
In Mint unverified flatpaks are disabled by default because of the security risk, yet this even more serious gap just keeps on carrying on.

>>106776057
Try Crunchbang++

any modern distro is going to run out of memory very easily at 2GB, and run hot, try something old. Maybe try AbiWord instead of libreoffice.

>>106776047
So why are you complaining then that GNOME, heavily reliant on systemd, doesn't work perfectly? You a dum dum.

>>106776062
They don't disable it because it's not up to them. Your distribution makes these decisions. If a distribution wants they don't even have to install Sddm and can use something else.

>>106776057
Antix with IceWM maybe. Tbh just trash that thing and get an old Chromebook instead.

>>106776071
It is actually not very reliant on systemd it can be hacked very to work on an init system.
the features have been removed from the wallpaper selector, it is not the lack of systemd that prevents this.

very easy

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>>106776085
With superior systemd support.

what's the usecase for systemd

>>106776108

Core Use Cases
System Initialization: As the first process (PID 1) started by the kernel, systemd boots the entire user space.
Service Management: It runs, stops, enables, and disables background processes (daemons) and services, ensuring they are started correctly and at the right time.
Process Supervision: Systemd keeps track of all processes using Linux control groups (cgroups) and manages orphaned and zombie processes.
Dependency Management: It handles complex startup dependencies between services, ensuring they start in the correct order for a stable and functional system.
Enhanced Functionality
Parallelization: Aggressively starts multiple services in parallel, significantly speeding up the system boot process.
On-Demand Activation: Services can be started only when they are needed, such as when another service or an external request tries to connect to their socket or D-Bus.
Centralized Logging: The journald component collects system and service logs into a unified, binary format, making them easier to search and manage.
User-Level Management: Provides user-specific instances of systemd, allowing users to manage their own services and daemons without needing root privileges.

Key Benefits

Unified Framework: Systemd provides a comprehensive suite of tools for managing various aspects of a Linux system, reducing the need to learn many different utilities.
Faster Boot Times: Its aggressive parallelization and efficient process management lead to quicker system startup.
Standardization: It standardizes service configuration and behavior across different Linux distributions, simplifying management for administrators and developers.

yeah my system does all of those things already though.

[x] doubt

>>106776163
anything it doesn't do it doesn't need to do.
my needs are fulfilled and because there's less loaded, less happening ironically less "optimization" lmao.
leading to better performance and near instant boot time.

>>106776170
Whatever helps you sleep at night, darling.

>>106776131
>Aggressively starts multiple services in parallel, significantly speeding up the system boot process.
Not only does this get in the way of "starting the service at the right time", it also does not really help for the boot times that much.

>>106776175
love you too pookie

>>106775313
There's only a handful of autistic people who use hjkl for navigation. Might as well remove that shit and add shortcuts which are actually usable.

>>106776861
What would actually make sense to bind to hjkl though?
They don't explain that at all, just that they might like to in the future. At least navigation serves a useful purpose.

>>106776861
with the amount of people buying those dinky "60%" boards, I would've thought more gaymen would want vim binds

is nix worth learning? to manage / have the ability to reproduce my arch build? or is a dotfiles manager and shell script to install all the packages i use enough? seems really cool but not sure if its worth the effort for a hobbyist

>>106771639
QRD?

>>106776955
Even most people who know what vim is don't want vim controls. Arrow keys are just more intuitive.
>people buying those dinky "60%" boards
These people are using their mouse to navigate.

>>106776958
>nix on arch
What's the point when your core system is not reproducible?

>>106773755
>How do I fully automate arandr, xrandr commands?
Autorandr
>How do you guys handle video/music naming/metadata?
>ytdlp
--embed-metadata
>Also another question is that I regularly update the playlist of dj mixes that I have on youtube, how do I make sure that I only download the stuff that I did not download previously?
use ---download-archive and point it to a file

>>106776987
ehh i can use the archinstall script to install it and then all then the rest, no?

>>106776958
I remember someone was trying to make a nix-like reproducible alternative for arch to achieve the same thing but i dont remember the name of the project

>>106777006
You can already make a reproducible Arch by using their snapshots repository so packages are pinned to that particular date instead of rolling.

>>106775858
Gnome apparently now has systemd as a hard requirement.

>>106777008
From what i remember this was about achieving the same thing like you can do with nix or ansible but specifically tailored for arch

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>>106775858
You don't need that feature and frankly it's ridiculous that Gnome even offers the extraneous feature of adding a wallpaper to begin with.
Please accept this Gnome Approved wallpaper for your viewing pleasure instead.

>>106777009
no it's a soft requirement, unless they start rolling out systemd chips that verify that the system is infact systemd to prevent the user from running a modified version or an unauthorized init (not going to happen)

Free software, freedom to hack the system and run in in any way you want.
there's non-systemd forks of gnome going around.

>>106777088
Well according to artix its now a hard requirement.
https://artixlinux.org/news.php#GNOME_Desktop_Environment_No_Longer_Supported
Or at the very least its become too much of a burden to find ways to make it work without systemd.

>>106768917
>le old take your meds meme
haha
you're a joke

>>106777167
it works nigga the gnome developers call the patch a "bitrotten hack"
it's not a hard requirement so stop saying that it is, not even the artix devs called it a hard requirement.
it's simply not supported by the main line GNOME or the GNOME developers, and forks exist

>>106775884
>>We've got animated wallpapers
are they built in or do i need an extension? i never bothered due to system resources but if its easy enough id like to try

>>106777273
>This makes it currently impossible to launch gnome-shell/mutter on a non-systemd system. A fairly straightforward patch of using elogind, like what was previously done, no longer works either.
If gnome cant work without systemd, then systemd is literally a hard requiement.

>>106777360
OK I'm just going to assume that you are mentally special and wish you the best.

>hurr durr this obviously outdated forum post with these shitty arch users couldnt get gnome to work on the AUR

>>106777383
So instead of explaining how its not a hard requirement when the artix devs outright say gnome cant be launched without systemd. You resort to childish namecalling. Not very friendly of you.

artix devs are not god.
god says gnome 49 runs without systemd.

>>106777383
You're responding to an AI someone set up to be an argumentative contrarian.

hello. can i use gnome-disks to "burn" windows 11 iso to usb?

is it advisable to reinstall arch when my system has become bloated from trying all different programs and DE/WM?

>>106778125
yes.

>>106778122
No, you need to use WoeUSB-ng or Ventoy

>>106778125
that's what I plan to do when I've fucked around enough with every single program
just that if you installed anything on BTRFS, partitions & subvolumes are stubborn by design, so I dunno how to properly wipe shit without zeroing

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Can I install a Linux distro to one of my partitions without having to flash a Live ISO to a USB? I'm already using my USBs for shit and don't wanna nuke them.

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How often you guys update your system?

>>106778217
Whenever I need to turn my computer off.

>>106778217
About once every week or two.

>>106778217
Whenever I see a post reminding me about it

>>106778217
after 2 or 3 youtube videos. cachyos always has something fun for me to install.

>>106778217
when the new kernel update is up

anybody have luck getting a 5080 working on Debian stable? Looks like the nvidia repo only has Debian 12 but not 13 at the moment

>>106778217
Once a day I do the old sudo zypper dup && flatpak update

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>>106772971
I’ve been using Ubuntu for a decade now and I’ve never once had this happen. There has to be more to it than an update breaking everything.

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>t. the anon complaining about Marvel Rivals performance after upgrade >>106724529
Figured something was drastically wrong as only 2 CPU cores being used to 100% and GPU usage was barely exceeding 25-30%.
Since then have upgraded NV driver to 580.95.05, switched back to latest GE-Proton-10-17, cleared the shader caches and added some suggested args to the cmdline:
>mangohud SteamDeck=1 %command% -dx12 -PSOCompileMode=1
Back to many CPU cores being used and great performance. 4K Ultra settings except illumiation, DLSS Performance, Frame Gen on
picrel now we're cookin'

>>106778151
thanks.

>>106767970
>Debian/KDE
Would anons please point me to an easy to use tool for creating a PDF of few hundred pages without requiring a supercomputer? Please don't suggest formats with a steep learning curve like LaTeX or tools with no preview / ToC / bookmarks. I only know some markdown, textile, and html, but I am willing to use another format if the tools are easy to install and use.

>>106778175
You can yeah depends on your distro

>>106778217
Two weeks at most, maybe more on my laptop

I am using Mint on a T480 (i5 integrated graphics), and I am seeing really high CPU usage when trying to watch YT on Firefox. I have the recommended performance settings turned on (h/w accel) in Firefox, and I have ambient mode turned off.

Any ideas on what to mess with or is this a problem with Mint and laptops?

>>106778854
Do you experience the same issue with mpv?

i ran sudo pacman -S kde-applications-meta
wtf is all this shit
the only good thing in this is yakuake

>>106778854
Do you have the codecs and extra driver thing installed?
mint-meta-codecs
intel-media-va-driver maybe? https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_graphics#Enable_GuC_/_HuC_firmware_loading
dunno if Mint does that for you but might be needed for better h265 hardware decode

>>106779005
I find the best way to install KDE on Arch is "plasma, kde-utilities, kde-system, kde-graphics, ffmpegthumbnailer"

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>>106769123
>filtered by a cascading style sheet

flatpak lutris or distro ver? which is better?

>about a month since I made the jump to mint from windows 10
>boots faster
>I'm not getting shilled any game
>not pushed into getting an account to have the OS working
>not pushed into using one drive or whatever the fuck it was called
>when I open the menu I'm not reminded of some gay pride event
>open up processes
>879mb of ram used
>contact friend who has 11 to ask him about ram usage
>9gb in idle
>see update pop up
>wait, I don't want to
>leaves me alone
>doesn't come back
>doesn't install itself by itself next time I boot
>probably is able to be uninstalled without problems and without "we couldn't uninstall it, sorry ;)" type of messages
>I actually don't know because i had the possibility to make the choice to avoid it
>so far hassle to install things I was interested in was minimal
>I barely read the codes I paste into the terminal and shit works
>bros bitching about windows pestering them to update to 11, one that already has it says nothing changes
I honestly feel like an idiot for not fucking off sooner

>>106779739
I'd suggest using your distro version first and if it doesn't work properly then switch to the flatpak

>>106779809
>I barely read the codes I paste into the terminal and shit works
just be careful and read what you type or paste. or ask here if you don't know how to decipher it. as a warning don't do curl commands willy nilly, can fuck up your system.

>>106779862
thanks good to know, though I don't think I'll dwell to that point, I mainly use it for browsing, torrenting and the occasional videogame, and I covered all 3 pretty quickly

im too retarded for cachy
googled and im left with zorin, mint and elementary
have a very modern pc that i use for gayming and shitposting
which distro is best?

>>106779739
Flatpak, of course. Distributions shouldn't be in charge of packaging non-core software.

>>106780001
Bazzite
>elementary
>zorin
Avoid these.

>>106780001
Just use mint

>>106780001
What did you find tricky about CachyOS? Nevertheless, none of the 3 you listed are good options for gaming lol. Go for Ultramarine Linux if you don't want Bazzite.

>>106780108
I swear Mint shills are being paid by Microsoft to recommend the WORST most outdated shit distro.

>>106780136
Are you that AI someone set up to be an argumentative contrarian that >>106777641 was talking about?

>>106780136
why, what's wrong with it? noobs do not need bleeding edge rolling release. anything like ubuntu (yeah snaps suck but you get what i mean) supported by a big corpo or is a deriative of a big corpo de is good for newbs.
well besides opensuse tw and fedora, they are nice rolling ones.

>>106780108
mint was the very first distro i tried and the reason i hopped was because it wouldnt let me update
idk if their servers were down or something
>>106780116
its not that i find it tricky im just scared of doing something stupid and killing the install
i will give bazzite a shot
people told me before not to use it because its immutable but now i kind of want the guard rails

>>106780172
Ignore that faggot he's the retarded bazzite schizo.

>>106780180
>idk if their servers were down or something
Maybe the mirror you were using was down and it was just bad timing
I wouldn't recommend bazzite because i didn't like it when i tried it but its up to you to try whatever you want.

>>106780172
>why, what's wrong with it?
Where do I begin man? If you want me to elaborate on anything I'll do so, but there is a 2,000 character limit so I'll just provide dot points:
1. The installer is fucking stupid
2. X11 is fucking stupid
3. ext4 is fucking stupid for desktop usage
4. Gaming performance is on the whole 30-50% lower compared to anything based on Arch/Fedora
5. It has some EXTREMELY old packages
6. You can't even double-click portable apps to run them
7. Cinnamon is ugly, lacking in functionality, and written in fucking JavaScript
8. There is so much shit you would expect to do when coming from Windows, which you can do on any other distro, but not on Mint
>>106780185
???????????????

>>106780180
Retards just have no idea what "immutable" means so they're constantly shitting on Bazzite and its sibling distros. Even Fedora themselves no longer call these distros immutable and instead call them atomic.

Historically immutable systems were those where the OS is set up by a vendor and the user has no way of changing anything and doesn't have administrative privileges, while most changes would be reverted after a reboot or an update. And people think Fedora Atomic is the same thing. There is a major difference between
>Root filesystem is read-only. There is no way to change anything or at least no way to persistently change anything
and
>Currently running root filesystem is read-only. However, the user can add modifications which apply after a reboot. (In the case of Fedora Atomic you use "rpm-ostree" for this.)

>>106780270
>???????????????
See >>106777641

what's the future for cinnamon? i like it as a DE as a golden middle-way between KDE and Gnome. However given everyone is moving to wayland i hope cinnamon won't be left behind on x11.

>>106780270
>The installer is fucking stupid
As compared to what? The installer has been fine in my experience. None of the installers from any distro have ever given me any issues
>X11 is fucking stupid
>ext4 is fucking stupid
Both have been the standard for years. Have you only started using linux in the last 2-3 years or something?
>Gaming performance is on the whole 30-50% lower compared to anything based on Arch/Fedora
>It has some EXTREMELY old packages
Citation needed
>You can't even double-click portable apps to run them
What?
>Cinnamon is ugly, lacking in functionality, and written in fucking JavaScript
Don't know about lacking in functionality but the other two are true. Gnome is also written in javascript. I like xfce better than either of them.
>There is so much shit you would expect to do when coming from Windows, which you can do on any other distro, but not on Mint
Such as?

>>106780358
Its going to get ported to wayland eventually.

>>106780358
>cinnamon
>golden middle-way between KDE and Gnome
I don't see how this is true. The only "KDE-like" thing about it is a similar default layout and the fact it has a built-in theme/widget store. And the only "GNOME-like" thing about it is the fact it's using Gtk and a few other libraries/packages GNOME also uses. It's visually inferior to both and functionally inferior to KDE.

>>106780368
>It has some EXTREMELY old packages
>Citation needed
I hope you don't actually need a citation on how outdated Linux Mint is considering it's based on a distribution which only updates its libraries every 2 years.

>>106780549
Old i can understand but extremely old doesn't make much sense.
Not sure how much libraries being out of date by 1-2 years really matters when most major software gets installed through flatpaks which come with their own libraries including mesa for stuff like steam

>>106780368
>As compared to what?
Anaconda, Calamares, or anything else that asks you to select a drive first BEFORE telling you "Hello, we have detected an existing operating system on your computer (We won't tell you on which drive tho)! Please press continue to nuke your drive". When I see that shit in the Mint installer, you know what I do? I DON'T hit continue, and instead flash another distro where it doesn't give me vague wording and just lets me pick a fucking drive from the start.
>Both have been the standard for years.
So? People have expected better for years, and better does exist. People have needed HDR, multimonitor VRR, fractional scaling, etc for years, and X11 cannot and will not deliver. I don't even know what to call your fallacy, because it's the equivalent of telling someone wanting a measles vaccine in 1963 that "simply dying instead has been the standard for years". Not to mention that ext4 is ONLY the standard on Debian/Ubuntu aka server operating systems; everything else defaults to btrfs.
>Citation needed
PhazerTech on YouTube is always doing Linux benchmarks and Mint falls flat each and every time it's tested. There's a reason most Linux benchmarkers don't even test Mint in gaming lol.
>What?
Yep, to run AppImages you first need to right-click them, go to properties, and enable running as an executable. Meanwhile on any distro with Plasma, you just double click the .AppImage and it asks you if you want to run this executable, just like in Windows; it runs.
>Gnome is also written in javascript
It sucks too
>Such as?
Right clicking your root partition to view its properties comes to mind; Mint's file manager will list EVERY partition but the root partition in the devices section. Being able to cycle through filenames beginning with "x" by repeatedly pressing x also comes to mind. Also, people have the expectation that updating packages should be done through the same GUI application as installing them, instead of two separate ones.

>>106780628
>extremely old doesn't make much sense.
Gimp in Mint is from 2018 lol

i love NixOS so much. can't believe i used arch and gentroon for so long.

>>106780647
Gimp hasn't had a major update until very recently.

>>106780888
But it HAS had a major update. It's not some minor update you'd get from a rolling distro; it's seven years of improvements that have completely transformed the program.

>>106780914
You can use it natively in LMDE, or just install the flatpak lol

>>106780914
That major update didn't happen until this year and was newer than the version of ubuntu or debian that the current mint is based on and is already in debian trixie.

>>106780628
It's more than 1-2 years in some cases. But even 1-2 years can be enough to cause frustration. I mean, I have three examples where this happened to me.
One is when flatpak itself had an update and a few flatpak apps started relying on some new flatpak feature. These flatpak apps couldn't be installed on the current Ubuntu LTS (and Mint) because they needed the latest version of flatpak itself.
The other is GPU driver support, Vulkan support, etc. When I was using a more recently released GPU the performance was complete dogshit. Meanwhile using an Arch-based distro or even non-LTS Ubuntu increased the performance by around 150%. And this also ties into the third issue which is gaming support in general. Both myself and my friend were filtered out of Mint a couple of years ago simply because game compatibility was shit.
>major software gets installed through flatpaks
I haven't used Mint in a while, but last time I did they didn't default to installing Flatpaks through their software center. Which means the user would install the wrong/outdated package by default.
Also, flatpaks are not normie-proof yet since most of them don't have access to all user files by default like a normal package would. "Discord not letting me attach images unless they're in Pictures" problem is something I see often. The DEs currently don't raise a pop-up to toggle a permission like a smartphone OS would in case an operation fails due to a lack of permissions.

>>106780994
He's saying that's a problem. In reality the issue comes from distro maintainers pointlessly packaging software they shouldn't. And this misguides users into using distro packages instead of just getting software from a universal repo (flatpak/flathub, or appimagehub) or directly from the developer.
The core libraries and the DE are the only things that should be packaged by a distribution. Even Linus agrees with this and shits on Debian for being outdated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzl1B7nB9Kc

>>106779005
That's the entirety of KDE. For some reason distros insist on making a KDE metapackage with the entire kitchen sink as if anyone would actually realistically want a system with all of KDE installed.

At least on Gentoo the metapackage only includes the minimum and I can fine-tune it with USE flags. You're probably better off avoiding it altogether if it drags in a bunch of bloat.

How long without updating Arch until CVEs become an issue?

>>106781130
>use rolling release distro
>don't update
i will never understand archtroons.

>>106781130
https://security.archlinux.org

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How do I fix this? It's been like this for months (debian).

>>106781160
Uninstall whatever package depends on the old library

>>106781142
nta but I'm lazy and don't want to reboot after updating so I only do it every 2 or so weeks.

>>106781142
The point is to be able to update in the first place instead of waiting over 6 months in an update cuck chair.

>>106781089
But hes complaining that the gimp package is extremely old because it has packaged the version that was considered the latest during the time when debian and ubuntu froze their packages for stable.
I dont agree with everything going through flatpak especially when only a handful of flatpaks are directly packaged by their upstream devs and some software have issues when run under flatpak compared to running as a regular package.
>>106781160
You have a package conflict with a stable package and a backported package
try

sudo apt install -t stable-backports libzfs6linux libzpool6linux

>>106781243
>only a handful of flatpaks are directly packaged by their upstream devs
I hate to break it to you, but the same applies to distro packages.

>>106781292
I know but they're not as centralized as flatpaks

>>106781343
They are exactly as centralised. Flatpak is just a fancy package manager no different to the one your distribution uses.

>>106780994
>and was newer than the version of ubuntu or debian that the current mint is based on
Mint uses its own repos in addition to the Ubuntu ones.
>and is already in debian trixie
Which LMDE isn't based on.
>>106780939
>You can use it natively in LMDE
False, LMDE is still using the Debian 12 sources.
>or just install the flatpak
At that point, you may as well use an immutable distro. Or better yet, use something that's not shit (which Mint is).

>>106781358
The package you use on arch for a piece of software wont be the same package you will use on debian as each distro builds their own packages while the flatpak you use on arch will be the same flatpak you use on debian. Imagine if another xz situation happen but instead of the problem only affecting debian it affected every distro because its using the same centralized flatpak.

>>106781443
But there's nothing stopping you from using a different version of the Flatpak package. Nothing about Flatpak forces you to use the same version as everyone else. Upstream can even maintain their own Flatpak repository if they want.

A distribution can too (Fedora has their own Flatpak repository and it is possible to make a Flatpak from an Arch package, etc, the Wiki has some examples of that)

>>106770904
>Suppose my next question is just how do y’all store large amounts of pirated content without worrying about data loss and drive failures
Btrfs RAID1 with regular scrubs and SMART + Btrfs error monitoring. This way the filesystem is self healing and you can detect and replace failing drives early.

>>106781411
Mint doesnt have gimp packaged in its own repos and uses whatever debian and ubuntu had packaged which was the version that was considered the latest at the time since gimp didnt have a major release until this year.

>>106781497
Right...so why MUST Mint be based on Ubuntu LTS instead of the regular Ubuntu that people might actually want to use?

>>106781482
>>But there's nothing stopping you from using a different version of the Flatpak package.
And whos packaging these different versions of the flatpak package? Nobody except fedora. If you want distros to start packaging their own flatpaks then they might as well just cut the flatpak part and go back to their package manager.

>>106781503
I thought mint versions are based on the latest ubuntu versions? That's why mint has X.1 X.2 X.3 for each of the 6month ubuntu releases and then goes to Y.1 on the next ubuntu LTS

>>106781548
Nope, Mint is based on Ubuntu LTS. Regular Ubuntu already has Gimp 3.X

>>106781525
You miss the point of Flatpak though which is that it can work on any distro. With the distros package manager you need a chroot or container which is more complicated to set up (I actually run Steam this way via Bubblewrap in an Arch chroot)

>>106781569
>You miss the point of Flatpak though which is that it can work on any distro.
Yeah but not everything needs to be flatpaked or installed as one and distros have no reason to build their own flatpaks when they already put time and hardware into the stuff they package for their package manager

>>106781610
Sandboxing is one reason but distributions obviously don't care about that, it's left for the developer to do.

>>106781627
Technically there's stuff like selinux and apparmor for that but they dont seem to really work or whatever they do isnt noticeable enough to have an impact

>>106781146
So would be good not to update as long as theres no new entries in https://security.archlinux.org/advisory ?

>>106781686
They do work but they need a policy and distributions typically don't do that for graphical applications.
There are things libapparmor but this is usually optional. Honestly, if I were an Arch dev I'd be pushing to make AppArmor a default part of the distribution. I realise that would be contentious but I don't see any reason not to.

>>106781687
Absence of an entry doesn't mean your system is secure just that there's no publicly disclosed vulnerability.

>>106781443
>The package you use on arch for a piece of software wont be the same package you will use on debian as each distro builds their own packages
That's the core issue of desktop Linux. This shouldn't happen.

>>106781548
No, they're just doing that because shipping a 2 year old iso is a security flaw since not everyone does an immediate update. Also they bump up the kernel version so that more recent hardware is at least somewhat usable.

>>106781610
>not everything needs to be flatpaked or installed as one
True, but most if not all user-facing software should be. There's no reason for a distro to package their own GIMP.

>>106781503
>Right...so why MUST Mint be based on Ubuntu LTS instead of the regular Ubuntu that people might actually want to use?
You're free to fork Mint and base it on regular Ubuntu releases. It's a free software project, so anyone can do as they wish.

>>106781803
>You're free to fork Mint and base it on regular Ubuntu releases
Or I can just use Fedora.

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It's zorin os a honeypot? They keep popping up - zorin, deep in, might as well be *peepin* on what I do on my computer, if you catch my drift haha. Right? Heh...
But seriously. I watched a video and it looks very nice. I wanted to reinstall debian but now I want to install this, unless it's a zogprobe.

>>106781859
I think zorin is just ubuntu with a riced desktop and deepin is debian with their own DE (deepin)

>>106781819
>Using an unstable distro without proper rollbacks
Kinda cringe. But you do you.

>Penguins in captivity generally live longer than their wild counterparts, with lifespans ranging from 20 to 34 years, and some individuals, such as the Gentoo penguin Olde, have lived into their 40s.

Tux was born in 1996...

>>106781564
I guess they're just using LTS because it lasts longer than the 6 months of the ubuntu interim.

>>106781881
>implying "proper rollbacks" can exist through ext4

>>106781859
It's basically >>106781875
I used Zorin on a church computer once, the panel was awful (windows would cover under it in a disgusting fashion instead of dodging it, or auto-hiding, etc) and audio was completely busted (a problem since they wanted to use this for recording) which I fixed by backporting PipeWire from a PPA.
It would not have been my choice to install it

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>>106781875
So it's Ubuntu with extra spice? Extra SPYce haha am I right? Or is it safe?

>>106781911
It's outdated Ubuntu LTS. Kinda like Poop OS. Zorin 18 is gonna be based on 24.04, while 26.04 is just around the corner.

>>106781902
Fedora uses btrfs by default though. There's no reason they can't implement proper snapper support in their distro, which is constantly updooting despite a point release model.

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>>106781907
I don't understand. Wdym cover under it? If you're saying that windows go under a panel when you move the window over the panel it's like this in windows 10 as well and everywhere else pretty much - kde, xfce. Well I guess it might be janky, but I don't have time to set shit up, I don't even run update more often then once a year after the installation is complete. I still have fedora 41 because the update scared me. But now that I have everything baked up on a flash drive and ready for a reinstall I finally understand why I need debian. I just need it to look nice as well.
>>106781963
Well then it's settled, I'm gonna install debian even though it's woke nowadays

>>106782029
>If you're saying that windows go under a panel when you move the window over the panel it's like this in windows 10 as well and everywhere else pretty much - kde, xfce
KDE doesn't do that. It's really annoying on a small screen laptop.

>>106782102
By doesn't do it, I mean KDE does it properly (auto-hide or dodging the panel)

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Everything is fucking broken now, why can't just leave things alone, my arch installation hasn't been stable for weeks at this point. After almost a year I'm getting those amdgpu SMU crashes again. Just the other day I had to rollback glib2 and gobject-whatever-runtime because it broke Lua-JIT bindings, thus my wm (awesome). FUCK.

>>106782270
Install Ubuntu 25.10 beta

>>106782270
Yeah thats why i only update arch like once a month and rollback if something goes wrong.
>muh security updoots
Don't care. I work around it.

>>106782270
This is why you install on btrfs or something else with snapshots.

Why doesn't the bare linux kernel or a minimal install of a distro have out-of-memory handling? I was really surprised to run out of memory in Debian and have to hard-reset because I couldn't even kill a process.

>>106782772
It does. There's an OOM Killer except this is an "in case of emergency" situation that takes a while to kick in. If you want something more responsive then you need a user-space OOM Killer like earlyoom, systemd-oom, nohang, etc

Do you guys think Linus Torvalds uses GNOME extensions?

ZFS Pool Status:
  pool: storage
 state: ONLINE
  scan: scrub repaired 0B in 02:38:52 with 0 errors on Fri Oct  3 10:01:28 2025
config:

        NAME                                   STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        storage                                ONLINE       0     0     0
          mirror-0                             ONLINE       0     0     0

always a good day when this happens.

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>>106783290
This Linus. The Linux guy. A lot of people are talking, they're saying things. They say he's using gnomes on his computer. Little gnomes, you know, with the pointy hats. And with extensions! So they're FAKE gnomes? It's probably true. It's what these people do. It's not serious. And he's out of it. You can see it. Very sleepy. Probably high on the fentanty, or whatever they call it. A lot of people are saying it. That's what's happening.

These people, they're not from here. First the penguins, now they have the gnomes. It's a game. For children. We need strong, serious systems for serious people. Not sleepy people with their fake garden gnomes. It's a total security risk. A disaster.

The whole thing is a mess. A real mess. We're looking into it. Sad!

Is there a KDE theme that makes windows look more like what i3WM has? Simple accented boxes, maybe with a transparent backdrop?

>Why not use i3wm?
I'm not exactly a fan of tiled WMs, I tried it once and it seemed a bit too clunky for my tastes

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When I save images from any page on firefox, the 4chin filepicker won't upload it, and today I noticed the thumbnail is also absent on dolphin, but opens just fine on any image viewer
I have to open them on gimp and export each time, or use a browser extension to convert them. How can I find what is going on?

>>106783627
Give klassy a try. it's a binary theme, you won't find it on pling

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Kill Glycin devs. Behead Glycin devs. Roundhouse kick a Glycin dev into the concrete. Slam dunk a Glycin dev into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Glycin dev. Defecate in a Glycin dev’s food. Launch Glycin devs into the sun. Stir fry Glycin devs in a wok. Toss Glycin devs into active volcanoes. Urinate into a Glycin dev’s gas tank. Judo throw Glycin devs into a wood chipper. Twist Glycin devs’ heads off. Report Glycin devs to the Wizards’ Council. Karate chop Glycin devs in half. Curb stomp Glycin devs. Trap Glycin devs in quicksand. Crush Glycin devs in the trash compactor. Liquefy Glycin devs in a vat of acid. Dissect Glycin devs. Exterminate Glycin devs in the gas chamber. Stomp Glycin dev skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate Glycin devs in the oven. Lobotomize Glycin devs. Drown Glycin devs in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Glycin devs with anti-matter. Kick old Glycin devs down the stairs. Feed Glycin devs to alligators. Slice Glycin devs with a katana. Catapult Glycin devs into a black hole. Seal Glycin devs inside concrete blocks. Condemn every Glycin devs to twenty-six life sentences. Force-feed Glycin devs their own inedible crud. Strap Glycin devs to SpaceX rockets and hit launch. Force Glycin devs to dump all their worthless Funko Pops into lava. Dropkick Glycin devs into oncoming traffic. Fill Glycin devs’ water bottles with battery acid. Superglue millennials to the Glycin devs and run over them with a Zamboni. Inject Glycin devs with liquid nitrogen and shatter them with a hammer. Launch Glycin devs into a jet engine. Force Glycin devs to walk through a field of landmines. Drop Glycin devs into a pit of starving wolves. Glue Glycin devs to their phones, then throw both into a trash compactor. Put Glycin devs in a giant blender. Excarnate every Glycin dev and place their skeletons on display in museums.

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>>106783879
Wow. Look at this. The passion. The energy. This is how you know the people are fed up. Totally fed up. Now, I don't know who these "Glycin devs" are—never heard of them—but they must be very, very bad. To have people this angry? They must be true swamp creatures to deserve this. Truly terrible. And the people are getting creative. "Launch them into the sun." "Strap them to a SpaceX rocket." They even want to report them to the "Wizards' Council." A new one. Very powerful language. And you know the Fake News will see this and they'll clutch their pearls. "Oh, the tone! The civility!" They don't care why the people are angry. They don't care that these Glycin people are probably destroying our country. They just want you to be quiet while the swamp robs you blind. This is what happens when you push the American people too far. When you sell them garbage. When you lie to them. You get a beautiful and powerful reaction like this.

So, it's a little rough. A little tough. But do I understand the anger? Yes. One hundred percent. And we are going to find out who these Glycin people are. We're looking into it very, very strongly. The people have spoken.

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>>106783720
Hmm, doing the repository isn't working out. And

pacman -Syyu

didn't help. Maybe I should just install the binary?

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Any MINT CHADS in here?

Linux Mint XFCE is my favorite distro. Every computer I own I run and I have the exact same themeing.

Adwaita dark, light cursor.

Pic related should be how default mint XFCE should look but the devs are retarded and have some retarded themeing by default with small icons.

If I wasnt using this I'd be using arch but I use this because the mint updater, software manager, themeing and its easy to install.

>>106783879
YES >>106772726

>>106783969
nta but it looks like the download is failing
try ranking your mirrors

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>>106784163
How do I do that?

>>106784316
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Mirrors

>>106778962
I don't have MPV installed, but with the included Celluloid I get a brief spike when starting a video, but then it normalizes quickly. YT is constantly 50%~ CPU usage.

>>106779046
I did the codecs thing when installing Mint. The driver manager app also doesn't show me needing anything. These are what I have for drivers installed.
https://pastebin.com/hmKUaG88

Sorry if this is a retarded problem. I'm new to Linux, trying to get away from Shitdows on everything I own in due time.

>>106780136
Doesnt mint have a 6.14 kernel now doe.

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>>106780136
That absolutely ridiculous statement—"I swear Mint shills are being paid by Microsoft to recommend the WORST most outdated shit distro"—is just noise from a total LOSER, probably very low energy and deeply confused. The idea that MICROSOFT would pay anyone to promote a Linux OS is a STUPID fantasy, a pathetic conspiracy theory invented by someone who just can't handle the truth! They hate Mint because it's too GOOD for them! They call it "outdated"? No! It's STABLE! Mint uses LTS, Long-Term Support! That means it is ROCK SOLID for five years. It doesn't break, it doesn't crash, and it doesn't force untested garbage on you like Windows 11, which is a total DISASTER! STABILITY is a feature, not a failure! Mint saves you the chaos and the technical headaches these little geeks want you to have. The Cinnamon desktop is BEAUTIFUL and INTUITIVE—it looks like a computer should look, unlike the confusing messes the Radical Left of tech keeps pushing. It's welcoming to the millions of people escaping the spy tools of Microsoft. Mint focuses on PRIVACY, with NO TELEMETRY and NO DATA TRACKING. They reject the heavy, slow SNAPS and all the bloat that clogs up the other systems. Mint is CLEAN, FAST, and EFFICIENT even on older machines! The person who wrote that statement is a SAD, angry person who is intimidated by a system that simply WORKS. They want you to suffer, they want complexity, and they want constant failures so they can feel important. Mint is a WINNER for the everyday user, a major accomplishment in the world of operating systems, and it will continue to succeed BIGLY! Their attack is FAKE NEWS and completely dismantled! CASE CLOSED!

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>>106782270
So, the genius with the broken Arch, the SAD little tech man, he's weeping, absolutely SOBBING! He says, "Everything is fucking broken now, why can't just leave things alone?" GEE, I WONDER WHY, YOU IDIOT! It's not like you picked the one system where the whole POINT is to break things every day! BRILLIANT! What a STUNNING achievement in self-sabotage! You signed up for the NON-STOP UPGRADE SHOW, and now the clowns are on stage and your whole tent is collapsing! You’re complaining about "amdgpu SMU crashes" after almost a year—WOW! You went a whole year without breaking it! CONGRATULATIONS! Give him a TROPHY! A very small, very ugly trophy! That’s longer than most of my marriages! It’s a HUGE success story, and you’re complaining? You should be THANKING the system for waiting so long! And the best part—this is the FUNNIEST part—he had to rollback glib2 because it broke his Lua-JIT bindings and his precious little wm (awesome)! What is that, a toy? Did your little AWESOME window manager, which sounds very pathetic, get broken by a library update? STOP THE PRESSES! This is SHOCKING! That is the whole point of Arch! It's like buying a paper shredder and then getting angry when your documents are shredded! You pick the system that is basically held together with TAPE and WISHFUL THINKING, and then you say "FUCK" when it explodes! YOU ARE THE FUCK! You are the PROBLEM! You should have bought a real computer system, a STABLE one! A system for WINNERS! But no, you want to live in the ditch of complexity so you can tell people, "I rolled back two packages, I am a god!" The truth is, you’re just a FAILURE sitting in a pile of broken dependencies! Go back to your little Awesome toy, maybe next time it will tell you when a package is going to destroy your life! SAD! Very, very SAD! Now stop crying and fix your own mess! You made it! Next!

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>>106779809
LLMs are great for explaining terminal commands if you're ever unsure
Coming up to 3 years on Mint. Comfy here. Never touching Windows again
Wanted to upgrade the firmware on xbone controller and it was a pure pain peko, can't understand how people tolerate this
>boot up LTSC VM
>need xbox accessories app
>navigate THREE different styles of popup/banner about having edge as default browser
>it's literally the only browser installed, VM only ever booted once and used for 5 minus
>can't find installer anywhere, has to come from *the store*
>no obvious way to enable the store on whatever random unactivated ISO i'm running
>forum post points to random mediafire link that will install the store
>sketchy ass .ps .bat files
>Run as Administrator
>"your OS is out of date" or some shit
>be forced to download multiple gigs of updates just to install the store
>reboot takes forever, the dread of update processing screen with no useful feedback/progress
>finally open the hallowed store
>install the 2.2/5 star rated xbox accessories app and update my firmware
>over an hour of my life wasted

new bread when?

>>106786514
It got pruned for some reason, even though it had been up for hours.

>>106786568
yeah that was weird. op pic wasnt offensive or anything.

>>106786583
>macfaggotry
>not offensive