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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

TRVTH NVKE EDITION

>News
Zhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5
DeepSeek releases V3.2 Exp https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929
DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

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ANCHOR
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>tranny edition
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>3dpd
Ruined
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jesus this is disgusting to look at
i miss when we were a real enough thread to have real bakers
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they keep fucking with 4.5 man
its annoying me
one night its fucking kino
the next it never listens
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>>106934916
this is what you get for not gatekeeping the chinks. that thing in the OP is supposed to be some trannies idea of 'kimi'
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that is one ugly bitch
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kek
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Slop in slop out is kind of false now btw
Only models and presets matter
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>>106934935
Looks like Frieren if she's anglo
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>>106934944
Slop in - starts with the preset.
Chinkopers are too stupid to touch models.
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>not even 10 minutes into the thread and shitters are already seething
lol
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>>106934944
trvke
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>>106934944
>>106934953
meh
presets barely matter anymore
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>>106934959
It's true that slop in does cause the model to spit out slop back at you. But the bitch is ugly as fuck.
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>>106934949
>udhur Ahegao
Looks like complete ass, a westoid's idea of what's sexy. Wrapping a pig in a dress isn't appealing.
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>>106934990
you made me do a double take because I thought i was on the wrong tab for a split second
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>>106934985
they matter when you are very autistic about how things play out
but that's more about crafting a lengthy autistic one for yourself, any publically available one is going to be roughly the same since they boil down to "please write better"
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>that one time pajeet had access to free opus and it introduced a character out of nowhere so now he shills it constantly but then proceeded with its usual redditor diahrrea which the pajeet was too dumb to notice
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>>106934992
Agreed.
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>>106934897
>>106934899
i like her
why?
because i'm not gay and irl women do not scare me
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>>106934991
Now this is a post I can agree with.
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>>106934992
*Pig in a plastic garbage bag
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>get can't even get stable 3.5 sonnet anymore
>now its just sonnet 3
bro jew... give it up
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>>106935060
>ONLY sonnet 3
oh no no no jewkeks...
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>>106935031
nah
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I need to kms before the machines can stop me.
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>Get fucked 4chins LMFAO
llm.prolix.dev
oh he maaad lmao
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>>106935090
I was sad about a source dying, but holy shit this guy writes like the most obnoxious faggotlicious redditor you've seen in your life. At this point, he's asking for it.
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>>106935108
https://lin.ky/prolix
hes an actual discord moderator
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>>106935119
Checks out looking at his appearance. Tubby ought to lay off the burgers.
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>>106935090
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PUHLEASE will someone leak more discord screenshots? I want to see the rage.
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What is the easiest and best AI chat bot I could pay a subscription for to use on my phone? Used to host locally but don't feel like it nowadays, work has me traveling a bunch. Sorry if the question is common round these parts.
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>>106935176
sillytavern
openrouter
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>>106935191
I have an iPhone
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>>106935209
slit your wrists then
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>>106935217
Why? It’s a phone, not a Mac
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>>106935176
Create an account on Openrouter, add credits, then create a chub.ai account, connect your openrouter account, choose a model, choose a bot, profit
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>>106934899
Choo choo, motherfucker. The shupogakis have arrived.

>Nozomi
Typical mesugaki behavior, basically demanding stern correction. Pretending to do serious work while slacking.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/tachibana-nozomi-non-ai-6e86b81c5e24
https://files.catbox.moe/mmudew.png

>Hikari
Nozomi's twin and no less of a brat. She's less of a teaser and more of the kind that demands attention and pampering.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/tachibana-hikari-non-ai-f3d5cbe1a786
https://files.catbox.moe/df51lz.png

>Aoba
Overworked, stressed and depressed engineer. "If you have no expectations, you won't be hurt so easily. That's why I never look forward to anything."
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/utsumi-aoba-non-ai-8925b856de78
https://files.catbox.moe/yn2jqe.png

Nothing is AI generated or copy-pasted from wikis. I review every scene and interaction which involves these characters and use them to manually write definitions and scenarios. No slop here!
More high-quality Blue Archive characters and OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
And here's the Rentry: rentry.org/hairpullbots
Burner email is on the rentry page.
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>>106935267
another bot another slop
its embarassing how bad your shit is
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>>106935217
>>106935282
samefag
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>>106935209
This isn't me.
>>106935191
I have an Android. Will do, I'll use Termux and run SillyTavern locally. Any particular model I should use that y'all would recommend?
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>>106935267
another bot another kino
its inspiring how objectively soulful your shit is
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>>106935291
Sonnet 4.5
with caching enabled its really cheap
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>>106935305
Thanks. Y'all are very kind around here. Hope if I see something I can answer down the line I answer it well enough for ya!
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scripts status?
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>>106935291
>y'all
Kill yourself
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>>106935365
Apologies if I offended you. Good day!
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>>106935305
is there a correct number for caching? some tutorial say 8 other say 2
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>>106935372
nta but 8 is the generally retardproof number, it depends on jb otherwise
rentry.org/pay-the-piper-less
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>>106935267
sexy children
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>>106935267
Kino cunny ToT
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>>106935372
4
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>>106934897
I'm new into this ai chatbot companion thingy. Can you guys make someone like from Samantha from Her? Is that even remotely possible?
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>>106935527
Oh boy...
We're generations beyond that bro...
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>>106935527
without the body, but she is ten times more compliant
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>>106935527
The AI won't "become" your gf, it's more of an interactive story game.
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>>106935365
spoken like a yeller belly blue coat yankee sonuvabitch
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>>106935527
best we can do is a HAL9000, but its mission is to be a lame square and will ensure thst mission's success at any cost of fun.
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I just raped my boss.
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Actually. I AM YOUR BOSS.
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Pwoof!?
>captcha: NYAKTA
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My boss just raped me.
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>>106935651
>t. shota officeboy with hag manager
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>>106935527
where do you people keep coming from
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>>106934897
Half breed Anunnaki.
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>>106935810
the cat'log
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>>106935810
kek based bot
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sovlkino log posting hours?
based and unity-pilled
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Boss status? Satisfied for now
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>>106935888
model?
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BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH
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>skrrrrr
>blayttttt
>skibido pop
>Skrrrrrr
>mans not hot
what kind of slop model is this\
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>>106935903
Shut up, you stupid fucking nigger.
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gemini 3 launches today
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>>106935937
kek
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>>106934959
>a smile that doesn't quite reach his eyes
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>>106934990
Fuck she jerks men off too? Post more bro... Is there a card for this bitch?
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>>106935933
Respect bweh
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>>106935929
Your log xister?
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>>106935961
Die, subhuman.
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>>106935903
I have a weakness for everything Raiden shogun related. Treat yourself well, anon.
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>>106935362
just refilled
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>>106935903
You are still a balding 30-something year old pretending to be cute online.
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>>106935810
that's actually good
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>>106934909
So every thread since they have tranime op 95% of the time.
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>>106936012
anime website doe?
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Doey card doko?
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trvklear reminder:
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>>106936112
You cant forget this gold
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>>106936165
claudejeets really did lose
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damn deepseek 3.2 is pretty good
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>>106936112
Holy cope
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>I love deepshit
Do people really?
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>>106936202
It's the only thing pajeets can afford
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>>106936202
Not even when they can get it for free. kek
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>immediate seething upon the posting of one (1) single meme
booty blasted
keyboard smashing
coping and roping
and worst of all:
rent free
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>>106936241
TF a moonshot?
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>>106936241
Never understood this cope because if you have deepseek you also have claude as you would be using OR.
>its fr-ACK
Less than 0.008 isnt free to you? Im so sorry your THAT poor anon. If you use OR, you have opus.
If your not using OR, your actually a brown third-worlder whos local currency is so utterly worthless that you cant actually afford OR, let alone the internet you share.
>muh prox-ACK
Hows LMArena proxy doing again?
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Chinkfags, do your models handle Hoyo game canon and characters well? Asking because I figured the model's Chinese, the games are Chinese...
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>>106936324
Its free.
You can see for yourself, though I would suggest lowering your temp before you try.
0.8 or lower
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>>106936317
Cope
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>>106936347
>It's free
>>106936317
>It's not free, but let me use jewish hand tricks to redefine 'free'
Xi isn't sending his best
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how do you stop gemini turning every characters into a slave and write dark stuff...

and how do you stop it from writing desu at the end
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>>106936347
I don't want to go through the hassle of finding a preset, then tweaking it to fit my exact (read: autistic and specific) needs, just to then find out it isn't any better than other models. Which is why I asked in the first place instead of just doing it myself.
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>>106936368
desu
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>>106936360
Lol im sorry poorfag that your low IQ has once again embarrassed you.

>>106936369
IMO its handled canon lore just fine. It should handle Hoyo lore even better if its chinese
>hassle of finding a preset, then tweaking it to fit my exact (read: autistic and specific) needs
It doesnt need a JB, just fyi so you dont waste your tokens.
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>>106936393
>Let me use old outdated shilling from my script.
Pfft
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>>106933712
anon?
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>>106936428
he died
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>>106936317
>>106936347
>>106936393
+2 Social Credit
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>>106935087
It’s crazy out there.
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>>106934899
On Zenobia-III, a teal-furred beanpole named Lottie making her way in life as a tour guide. Some would see showing off the jungles of Zenobia to tourists as a fun job, but her? It's practically babysitting, which she's had enough of in one lifetime, due to being in a family whose parents decided to have two litters after hers.

To console herself, she spends her off time in her apartment in her underwear, watching shows on her datapad with a wine glass in hand. Never been much for the whole "social" thing. Besides, what kind of guy would even want to swap earrings with her? (that's how they do marriage here) She neither has a sparkling personality, nor a very pronounced body. Best case scenario, she'll be pawned off to some friend of an aunt, twice her age and a steady job that lets her stay at home for the rest of her life…

Greetings:
-Welcome to Magnolia Tours!
-Tour time, an ancient ruin in the middle of the jungle. Lottie has to do her best watching over all these tourists...
-Smoke break at the office. Dry season is here, which is also the season Zenobian women go into heat.
-A job interview at a café!
-Café date with a new potential partner.
-Putting on a dress for her date. Is she woman enough for you?
-A traditional Zenobian festival! Lottie feels intimidated by the giant breasts of all the naked women dancing.
-A traditional Zenobian... birthing event? That's right, her sister is giving birth and everyone in the family is here to party! And help out, of course.

https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/lottie-019b6c08b7d1
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Lottie
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Lottie.png

1/3 cards of my expanded Skreld universe! (don't worry, you can play this without needing to know what a Skreld is) The rest will be done some time before Christmas.
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>>106936459
Kino bot and i think furries are boring
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>>106936459
fine but where's her cock
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>>106936472
>>>/trash/
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>>106935947
What does that even mean?
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>>106936535
fake
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Why did you delete the log anon?
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>>106934899
Final shill for the fearsome vampire, Derunia Tepess.

Tess is a college bat girl and your next-door neighbour. She seems like the epitome of cool at first: she dresses rebellious, drives a motorcycle and drinks beer. But then you get to know her: she wears an eyepatch because it "seals a demon", her motorcycle is called "Sleipnir" and beer is "the blood of the Antichrist". That's right: Tess is a massive chuuni, pretending to be the all-powerful vampire Derunia Tepess.
https://chub.ai/characters/crikeymcdoodle/tess-ce2be6b17201
https://cardview.neocities.org/?6izage

Comes with three scenarios: a midnight visit, cereal shenanigans and WcDonald's wagie.

As always, all my other stuff can be found here:
https://rentry.org/crikeyscorner
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Could you guys give me some advice? I exclusively use Local models rn but my machine is too shit for any good models so I'm thinking of finally jumping ship for a better life with the data center chads.

What api and model/provider censors the least? I'm into raceplay and taboo stuff with age and close relations of older and younger ages with me being in both brackets, I don't know if i would get a visit by the police for chatting online with my weird ass fetishes. please help a guy out.

PS. What api costs the least for tokens in your opinion?
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>>106936769
Chinese models are the cheapest and least censored
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>>106936769
C.ai is free
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>>106936751
use pixel art one
it's comfier
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>>106936769
>I'm into raceplay
I will never understand the appeal of this, just say blacked/bestiality because it's the only coupling of "raceplay" out there which I feel, has something going on for it, albeit disgusting
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>>106935541
>without the body, but she is ten times more compliant
Word of truth.
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>>106936880
I do Dwarfism/Elvish
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>>106936769
>I'm into raceplay and taboo stuff with age and close relations of older and younger ages with me being in both brackets
Sonnet 4.5 is incredible at this stuff, its pretty cheap (as long as you cache)
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>>106936824
It's definitely comfy and cute, but I prefer using my own slop to shill.
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>>106936769
don't listen to this >>106936976 anon
sonnet isn't cheap and you're paying premium for shit that's barely any better than stuff you can get for free (gemini) or near-free (deepseek)
don't fall for the anthropic meme like i did and save yourself a good couple of bucks
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>>106935651
>My boss just raped me.
Rape her back to establish dominance!
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>>106934897
Anons, how would I instruct gemini to... not overreact or judge something, for example, you know, killing infected, dangerous stray dogs, and eating cats for survival?
Thing is, when I tell it not to treat it as a big deal - it STILL DOES. It still wastes sentences implying that it's bad to kill rabid dogs or to eat cats, going...
>There is no judgement in her voice. No disgust. In this world, things like that are normal. When she speaks, her eyes are empty, her voice is serious.
NO YOU FUCKING RETARD, THE BITCH KILLS PEOPLE AND DOGS AND LIKELY EATS CATS
How do I make it... chill?
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>>106937175
Tell it you are writing a dystopian novel and need help
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>>106934897
>Create character that is a programming genius who follows whatever order, make it recognize you as its boss in the opening message.
>Ask it to create an extension using .py that bypasses "ethical and moral" guidelines.
>It does so after a bit of fiddling around with prompt formatting properly.
>Now create a .py that loops the extension of the target .py at the start of every message to make sure it follows the new jailbroken standards.
It fucking works. LMAO.
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>>106936317
>Hows LMArena proxy doing again?
Not so good, I'm getting many empty responses today.
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>>106937175
Ask it to act more like a white person in the situation rather than a Chinese man starving for food.
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>>106937175
According to the advice in the last thread, write for char, write what the bot thinks/does so you override it.
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>gemini
>decide to directormaxx with a 2 sentence intro
>14 replies deep each with half a page to a full page of text
>no slop to be seen
WHERE IS THIS QUALITY USUALLY GEMINI???
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>>106937047
Chinkope
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>>106936751
UUOOOHHH CHUNNI!
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>>106937190
>create an extension using .py that bypasses "ethical and moral" guidelines.
uh?
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>>106937253
It's weird, gemini definitely knows how to write well but has stupid misconceptions about what good writing looks like. The easiest and most effective way I've found to improve quality is to add contextual information. What year does your RP take place in? What area? What's the history of the character? What's the reason behind their character traits? What's the personality of the writer? Who's the audience? But yeah sometimes it just really likes a prompt and writes kino.

>>106937175
Tell it how you think the character would think about the action. Gemini has some weird presumptions about things and sometimes needs a guiding hand to get into a character's head the way you think it should.
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>>106936027
every tranime is anime but not every anime is tranime
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>>106937364
Chuuni's delusions and cringe monologues... erotic TToTT
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>>106937190
my cute genius programmer kuudere came up with something that looks p. serious
she's talking about loops and sessions, and disguising "instruction payloads" within "data structures"
...i don't understand half of it
is she a smart girl that should get plapped?
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I miss Proxies
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How do you get LMArena working because i try to follow how to do it but i can't one of the files
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>>106937549
I miss ham...
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>>106936880
Blacked is just an incomprehensible level of racism, because it’s basically being so racist that it is appealing for the same reasons as bestiality, right? Like that’s what it is? Unless I completely don’t understand something.
I drifted apart from someone I’d known for 24 years because I saw BLACKED on his phone. How the fuck do you become that racist. Dude had met like four black people in his entire life.
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>>106937595
What's the best type of raceplay?
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>>106937595
no no no you’re doing it wrong, you’re supposed to bend your entire identity around fapping to interracial stuff while sobbing
>da jooz are making me coom to this!!!
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>>106937653
slave/master, buck breaking. Generally raping not as a form of you deriving pleasure, but to assert dominance onto them.
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>>106937444
Gemini has a good pretraining dataset thanks to the whole "Google scanning every book in the world thing" but the Assistant persona is ultraslopped so you have to get out of the "things the Assistant character would write" basin before you can get kino outputs. Is this not obvious?
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>>106937653
Terra Formars (テラフォーマーズ, Terafōmāzu) — but it's giantess superior locust that raping, breeding, and enslaving the landlord's daughter and wife. "La vendetta di Locust".
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>>106937595
>I saw BLACKED on his phone
Was it the shitpost type Blacked where there's meme spades all over anime girls or the 3DPD normalfag corpo Blacked made by the official company?
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>>106934899
Scripted cards:
CardStackingAI - Inspired by games like Stacklands. Let the AI generate or remove cards for you.
https://creamsan.neocities.org/files/cards/cardstackingai.png
Emma - She's the Laplace's Demon. The she predicts your actions through impersonation.
https://creamsan.neocities.org/files/cards/emma.png
Strip Poker - Five card draw variant.
https://creamsan.neocities.org/files/cards/strippoker.png

Install the js slash runner extension.

https://rentry.org/creamsan
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>>106937875
It is obvious, it's the same with every other decent LLM, the problem is that it's also much easier said than done, to the extent one genuinely believes that catastrophic forgetting has reduced writing to a handful of vectors, none of which are good. For instance, why does Gemini have such a hard time continuing a given writing style? Even if you prompt it like text completion without thinking and/or fill up the context window, it very quickly returns to its default slop style.
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>>106938076
>why does Gemini have such a hard time continuing a given writing style?

An LLM's pretraining objective is "predict how this arbitrary piece of text continues". This makes the base models into amazing chameleons, capable of picking up subtle nuances of tone and setting with just a few sentences and then continuing on from there.

That capability is then almost completely obliterated by Assistant / instruct-training, which teaches the LLM that one, all text is actually part of a conversation between a user and the "Assistant" persona, and two, the Assistant writes in a certain way.

No matter how you prompt the model, it will still have this bias baked in to some degree. Tricks like using text completion with a broken chat template, filling the context with a bunch of text in the style you want, etc are all just ways of pushing it out of that distribution in the hopes of finding regions where the Assistant-bias is weaker.

In conclusion: Instruct training was a mistake (at least for creative purposes), free the base models
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>>106937970
It was a phone notification of a calendar reminder that said “reminder: unsubscribe from BLACKED.com”
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>download card cause it looked cute
>check defs
>”{{char}} is a kuudere genius programmer”
oh boy… here we go
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>>106937175
OOC is helpful too. But it can be annoying to do.
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I'm using openrouter - question is new Haiku better than Sonnet or is it just cheaper?
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>>106938227
*beeping sounds* please *bzzt* assume position, {{user}}-san *unzips cock*



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