>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
265k, 285k, and 9800X3d getting new oc'd variants soon
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other useful sites
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/
https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/

>WTF WHY ISN'T THE CPU/GPU LIST ALL AMD AND ALSO IT'S RETARDED AND TERRIBLE ANYWAYS!?!!!!
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>>107018600
You tell them sister!

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Personally I use AMD + AMD but Intel and Nvidia are fine too.

>>107018669
I love the nico futa doujins, you have good taste.

the C4 42"s were really low again a while ago all time low, like even cheaper than LG website + codes cheaper
as cheap as specific sales period on retail stores
now they are slightly higher
they are trying to move out all the units
wonder if they will dip to an even alltime lower aka below 688€

>>107018596
Damn shame she wasn't the leader of her group. It would've lasted longer.

>>107018601
>Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op
the premium section is still garbage and should be removed
there are no premium CPUs right now since the 9950X3D is prone to spontaneous combustion, the 285K has bad gaming performance and the 14900K has bad power consumption

>>107018601
why is there no mobo section

Seriously, take out the 14900K.
People who buy that kind of Intel CPU would buy and tune a 285K instead; it's burning cash either way.

>>107018832
>why is there no mobo section
Because this is a garbage troll thread

Do not use this joke piece of shit created super early. Stay in previous until bump limit then make the real next
>>107011604
>>107011604
>>107011604

>>107018849
this one also has no mobo section other than the asrock warning which is in this general

>>107018849
>'It's super early if someone else makes a new thread before the bump limit!'
Lmao. This is a healthy development. And I'm not OP.
(you) will run your own /amdpcbg/.

>>107018849
>>107018868
There's never been a mobo req because they are completely subjective and none really stand out above the others. The only thing that has to be said is to stay away from asrock for obvious reasons.

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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>107018832
not the OP but what would you put in the mobo section? depends too much on your personal needs and what platform you want to run for there to be some kind of universal recommendation
>>107018883
asrock is fine on AM4
idk how well they do on intel but probably fine there as well
(seems most intel buyers prefer to basedface over $600 rog boards instead of doing some research into what they actually need)

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So fucking salty I was tricked into buying a 5070 ti, DLSS image quality is terrible compared to FSR 4, JUST LOOK AT THIS FLICKERING WTF!!! I'm returning it and buying a 9070 XT fuck it IDC anymore

hello /pcbg/ my red cpu and yellow dram light on my MSI mobo kept flashing and wouldn't post, tried to replace ram, didn't work. replaced the mobo with asrock taichi lite x870e instead of msi x670e tomahawk and now my PC is extremely stable again. Was worried my 9950x3d fried itself, won't cheap out the motherboard again. Being unable to post is the most frustrating shit ever.

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>>107018948
close call
but the clock is ticking
at least you can get in on the class action lawsuit in 10 years

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>mfw my 5050 still has bad drivers and super overpriced for last gen 4060 performance (should be 150 dollar gpu)

'sup /pcbg/
Two quick questions:
Would you go with 3 intake + 2 exhaust fans or is 2 intake + 1 exhaust enough?
Total system power should be around 550 to 600W, Case is a bequiet 802.
My gut feeling says 'go for 3 + 2' but I'm not even sure if that will be enough.

The second question is probably a bit esoteric, but anyway: Do Ihave to wory about the somewhat special shape of teh IHS on teh 7000 series Ryzens? I mean, does thermal paste get stuck in the gaps on teh side? Is it better to get a low viscosity thermal paste? One of these plastic covers?
Or am I overthinking this and it literally doesn't matter?

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https://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-9070-xt-demolishes-rtx-5070-ti-in-call-of-duty-black-ops-7/
Nvidia xisters that's FUCKING IT, im gonna finally KILL MYSELF tonight. Every CoD release it's the same thing. Radeon is simply superior on one of the most played games in the world unless you pay $3000+ for a GPU meant for workstations that eventually melts anyway. My 5070 ti will NEVER be faster than a 9070 XT in the worlds most popular fps and I will NEVER be a woman, death is my only escape from this hell now.

>>107019012
>It's worse than the 7900 XTX
Damn

>>107018832
idk what do you think it would look like? I don't really know enough to make good suggestions on it

>>107018844
LGA 1700 bagholders that care only about games looking for an in socket upgrade is what I was mostly thinking
the 285k is still like an i5 or maybe gets close to an i7 in gaming usually isn't it though?
I have a 265k and I know early this year it was slower than both a 12600k and 13600k that I had at the time just roughly comparing them myself in ue5 games and cyberpunk

>>107018825
How do you think I should organize it then?

love nico

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>>107019084
You should be spamming your own thread to get it past the bump limit lmao.

Normalize putting your tower 10-15 feet away from the monitor.

>>107019060
>LGA 1700 bagholders that care only about games looking for an in socket upgrade is what I was mostly thinking
if you only care about games you get a 14600K
if you want more cores the 14700K is functionally equivalent at the default power limit for $150 less (and do you really want a 400W CPU?)
yes the 14900K says 6 GHz on the box but it barely hits that frequency anymore due to the new 1.55 VID limit
>I have a 265k
i was actually going to ask if there were any arrow lake users here lmao
cool
then feel free to keep it in there if you think it deserves to be in there
>How do you think I should organize it then?
just remove premium, it doesn't make sense
roll either the 7800X3D or 9800X3D into the gaming section
not both, this is for people who need the choice made for them
it seems you can get the 7800X3D for $100 less right now so i would recommend that one

recommending lga1700 but avoiding am4 because its "old" is mental illiness
either add both or remove them

>>107019188
OP is literally an intelaviv njudea shill what do you expect

>>107019188
alder/raptor lake are much faster than zen 3 so building on AM4 makes no sense in 2025
unless you already have a board of course, then it might be worth it

>>107018883
>completely subjective
I mean, you can simply state the model types like RAM instead of going by brand/specific model

>>107018916
>>107019060
if you want to go by model names

>MOBO
AM5/LGA1700

Budget: B650 / B660
Gaming: B850 / B760 or Z690
Premium X870 or X870E / Z790

LGA1851: B860 for Budget, Z890 for Gaming & Premium

Other anons should chime in (I really only know about AMD mobos) and fact check me but this feels right I think.

I'm not saying its essential per se, but its odd we have case fans but no mobo in general.

>>107019084
you should thank me if anything, I promise you're making yourself go insane spending all of your freetime trying to control a general on 4chan.
Go out and go do literally anything else for a couple weeks and see how you feel about it.


>>107019114
>if you want more cores the 14700K is functionally equivalent at the default power limit
I'll look into that, does look like they're pretty close at default
>feel free to keep it in there if you think it deserves to be in there
I feel like it does in the "workstation" section
>roll either the 7800X3D or 9800X3D into the gaming section
>not both
>7800X3D for $100 less right now
Yeah I guess that all makes sense

>>107019188
Isn't the high end on am4 expensive as shit now?

>>107019235
a 5700X3D costs as much as an AM5 board and CPU and DDR5 memory

>>107019235
x3d am4 became expensive because they are not being made anymore but 5950/5900xt are at great price

>>107019254
still worse than the 14600k that rapes them for cheaper

>>107019221
>you can simply state the model types like RAM instead of going by brand/specific model
the RAM section makes sense because it's recommending configurations with decent performance and the highest chance of compatibility
this is just a list of different chipsets
and it makes no sense anyway because B650/B850, B660/B760 and Z690/Z790 are basically the same thing
idk you can put that in there if you want i don't care
>>107019235
>I'll look into that, does look like they're pretty close at default
if the 14900K had more P-cores it would be a big deal
or if it was only $50 more it would be worth it
but $150 for 4 more E-cores and a higher stock turbo bin that barely works on the new microcode makes no sense to me

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>>107019254
>5950/5900xt are at great price
>$300
MAYBE if you have an AM4 board already
i guess it could make sense, in some universe
>>107019259
yep

>>107019060
>LGA 1700 bagholders that care only about games looking for an in socket upgrade is what I was mostly thinking
These people will know their options will be mostly limited to 14th-gen CPUs already.
Get rid of the 12100 and 13100, these should only be recommended for very specific build requests.
Put 7600/X or 7500F in the budget section since these are good values when deeply discounted.

Gaming and Premium CPU sections are jank. Just put the X3D chips as the first two recommendations for gaming CPUs; that's their official designation.
9950X3D is the premium CPU if you want to keep that tier.

You want to make that 2,000-character limit count.

i bought a liquid freezer III 240 and i don't know if it'll fit, top mounted, on my meshify C

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>>107019923
do 240s even outperform something like a peerless assassin?

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>>107020212
I meant 280.

Hey currently working on a new build and I have a question about powering pumps and fan curves and settings

I'm using a triple plug for my CPU cooler and it has the headseak fan header, the pump header and a VGA header. The heatstink fan is obviously plugged into the CPU_Fan header but is it a big deal if I plug the pump header into the CPU_Opt header instead of the pump header? I want to do this because the pump header is all the way at the bottom of my motherboard and I'm not sure it will even extend that far without an extender.

I've read that it could lead to inconsistent pump rates but couldn't I just set the power to a set rate no matter the temp? And if so what should I set it to in the bios?

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>>107019266
>>107019221
>because B650/B850, B660/B760 and Z690/Z790 are basically the same thing
NTA, but no they are not

>>107020267
I don't think it matters, in fact I opted not to use the pump header for mine because my bios had more limitations on the settings I could use for it which was annoying

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>>107020253
Nice, 140mm fan supremacy, but that's not gonna fit on the top.

9070 XT is the first AMD card where it doesn't feel like you're a second class citizen where nothing fucking works and you don't have half the features nvidia users do. It's really nice.
I hope they make a real flagship soon. With a 600mm^2 die they'd slot in nicely between a 5080 and 5090.

>>107020404
Z690 and Z790 are not the same but B650E and B850 are the exact same chips underneath.

>>107020488
I'm a retard and thought you were saying a b760 or h770 was basically the same as a z790. My bad

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We will live long enough to see /pcbg/ die for a while splintered into /amdpc/ and /nvidiapc/
Fate has judged us and found us wanting
Anyhow enjoy this video of rikishi goofing around before an exhibition

Microcenter has a bundle deal for the R5-7600X3D and motherboard for $330. Is that CPU solid? Getting the 7800X3D bundle is $140 more and the 9800X3D bundle is near $300 more. I intend to game AAA titles and MMOs at 1440p at highest frames I can get. I am willing to lower settings in anything I play to maintain >80fps

>>107020638
Seems pretty good, I'd probably pay the $20 more for the bundle with the b850 motherboard rather than the b650 though.

>>107020638
the 7800x3d is usually considered the best performance/cost am5 cpu and it would be my starting cpu for what you want if you can afford it
7600x3d is a discontinued chip, nothing worng with that it might even increase in value but makes it hard to assess what it should cost

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How much would you sell or pay for this pc?

>CPU = AMD Ryzen 5 5600 up to 4.4ghz
>GPU = Sapphire Radeon Nitro+ RX 5700 XT 8GB
>RAM =Corsair Ven LPX 16GB DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz
>MOBO = ASUS Prime B450M-A
>MEM = Samsung 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD
>PSU = Thermaltake 650W
>CASE = NZXT H510 Compact Mid-Tower

I want to sell this shit and get a thinkpad

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Just 2 months ago all discussion here was about Monitor display panel tech, resolution, and brands. What happened? PC hardware felt solved, yet now it's all shitflinging between Nvidifags and AMDfags.

>>107020683
its like one retard vs two other retards.

>>107020638
can you link the bundles? but what that anon said about the board is probably true too, if its 20$ to go from a similar 650 to an 850... might as well do it

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>>107018596
You know what the real scam is? It is technology. It hasn't progressed at all these last 10 years. You only release a new product if it is atleast a 100% better than the old one. Companies nowadays release products that are just 20% or 25% better on paper, lesser in reality. You are paying for minor increments (say 10-12%) for your flagships.
>but muh CUDA cores
FUCK CUDA CORES. FUCK TENSOR CORES. FUCK THE MEMORY. It is all bullshit. They are conning you with the same old tech. The newer models are even further jewed through the ((driver updates)). It is a huge conning operation to keep the market stable. The AI models they bitch about aren't doing jack other than creating hentai pictures for you to jerk off to, so SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Painting gold on shit doesn't make the shit gold. Everything is bullshit. Everything. The humans have reached their peak, now we go downhill.

>>107020682
No more than 400-450 euro. I looked up similar configurations on local marketplace and for 450 I see one with the same GPU, but 64GB RAM and 5700X.

>>107020705
i just want better rendered fat anime tiddies on my gachas anon

Rate please
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/brWfqH
Trying to get this list finalized for my trip to Microcenter tomorrow.

>>107020678
the 7600x3d from what I've gathered is a Microcenter exclusive CPU. Similar to the 5600X3D prior. Once they're gone, I won't be able to find it anywhere again for MSRP. I figure most games aren't fully utilizing 16 threads anyways and games still care about the internal cache and single core performance. The 7600x3d still has the near 100MB of cache. Literally just a 7800x3d minus 2 cores, 4 threads.

>>107020700
https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx

It appears that you can select a B850 motherboard now. I guess when I last looked at the bundle, they were trying to clear out their old B650E stock.

>>107020710
Oh thanks anon, I put it up on FB marketplace for exactly that lol 425 euro.

>>107020714
you dont need that aio and can get by with a 40$ phantom spirit

>>107020732
nta but i had a similar am4 and i gave it free to the dude that coaches my kid soccer league team cause they only had a laptop at the club house so i could have an excuse to upgrade. I thought it was worth maybe 350€ or so

>>107020736
>you dont need that aio and can get by with a 40$ phantom spirit
"get by" as in I'll barely be under throttle limit when doing CPU intensive stuff (I occasionally render small shit) or get by as in I won't thermal throttle, but I'll still drop out of boost clock?

>>107020705
This is why you only upgrade every 5+ years - to feel a real improvement. Upgrading from a GTX 1660S to an RTX 5070 was a night and day difference.
Meanwhile, upgrading from a 3070 to a 5070? Would probably feel pretty mediocre and a waste of money.

>>107020747
NTA but come on anon it's a 65W part, it's never drawing enough power to overheat and throttle with a proper dual tower air cooler like the phantom spirit or peerless assassin.

6700XT is starting to feel a bit tired for 1440p. Is a 9060XT a decent upgrade or do I have to get a 9070XT. I don't do low 3d resolution or fake frames.

>>107020759
man idk, I've had people recommend completely insufficient coolers for builds in the past just because it was considered the best budget cooler or best performance per dollar. I actually prefer air cooling because it's one less thing that can possibly fail (water pump) but I just don't want to go through the hassle of buying and building this system just to find out my CPU idles at 85C

>>107020767
>I don't do low 3d resolution or fake frames.
You need a 4090 or 5090 for 1080p60 for all your pixels and frames to be TRVTHNVKE.

>>107020747
I have a 9800X3D with a thermalright dual tower and it sits at 80C during "normal" stress testing, 90C during shader compile, qsort and other things that really torch the hotspot, and less than 60C when gaming in your average UE sloppa

>>107020770
the human eye can't see beyond 8-bit 800x600p @ 24HZ anyways. Everything else is placebo.

>>107020779
The human brain only has 768mb VRAM so you have to be considerate and not overstimulate it with 4K UHD graphics.
Anything above the graphical capabilities of early PS3/360 games (the last Straightmes before the industry started making only Gaymes) is wasted on human people who get forced to downsample the fancy eldritch graphics of UE5 titles to something a mortal brain can comprehend.

>>107020767
according to benchmarks the 9060XT is only about 25% faster, while the 9070 is 85% faster, and the 9070XT is a little over twice as fast. I'd get one of the 9070s. The non-XTs are available at MSRP now.

>>107020767
never buy amd

>>107020772
Looks like normal PB2 scaling. How are the clock speeds during stress tests? PPT/TDC/EDC utilisation?

>>107020747
get by as i dont imagine that cpu ever stressing over what that air cooler can provide
that said you might want an aio for other reasons

>>107020838
the autistic side of me wants an Arctic cooler to match my arctic case fans, but that's about it. I specifically chose that case because it's a windowless, RGB-less black box that I'm just going to stuff in the corner. I game 99% of the time with headphones so fan noise is whatever to me.

>>107020852
thats fine, i got an aio cause i wanted a small screen on it with the temps
i just wanted to point it cause its an easy 40$ to save, even more so when you seem committed to good temps already planning on the extra fans on the pcpp list when most people treat those as an after thought

What's a normal sitting distance for a 32 inch 1440p monitor? I want to decide if a 32 incher is viable for my desk or if my 27 incher is still ideal because I'd be sitting too close. I game at about "an arm's length" plus 10 cm or so. Closer when I'm doing stuff with text, slightly further away when I'm watching video content.

>>107020866
I'll get the air cooler and if it performs how I want, I'll set it and forget it. One less thing that can go wrong, most I have to do is take it apart and dust it once a month.

>>107020770
I hate western gamedev
>>107020803
Aight sounds like the 9060ti is a waste of money then. Didn't know they made a 9070, I'll look into that.
>>107020834
I prefer my GPU to process graphics, not proompt chatgpt

>>107020882
XT. I'm tired and I just had to fuck around with docp to turn memory contest restore back off because apparently RAM isn't getting faster either, it's just being overclocked.

>>107020705
> Companies nowadays release products that are just 20% or 25% better on paper, lesser in reality.
Right, Dell/Lenovo/HP/etc love having their new models feature newer hardware than last year's models, so hardware manufacturers kinda have to get with the program.

>>107020882
>Didn't know they made a 9070, I'll look into that.
when you look into the 9070 check the xt
In my country the 9070 is a bit steep in price so that the xt model is literally 39€ more expensive, which seems like a no brainer
maybe is more sensibly priced in your place

>>107020896
Thing is they kinda have to do that, because there's always someone ugprading from an ancient ThinkPad and wanting this year's new model, so there has to be a new model every year. Same with smartphones. PC components like CPUs and GPUs are actually unique in how generations are spaced more than 12 months apart, often a lot more.
Can you imagine if Apple didn't drop a new iPhone this september? Nvidia doesn't drop a new GPU generation every year, yet they're fine, because of customer expectation.

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Anything that you would change for a potential 1440p rig?

Should I hunt for a different GPU? The CPU was chosen only because of the sale and the fact that you can get a CPU cooler for 1 PLN.

My budget is around 5000 PLN (1400 USD)

>>107021046
Get 6000 MT RAM. Anything above or below can be detrimental to AM5 Ryzen performance. I'm not even sure if 6800 MT will boot at all on a 9600.
Also consider a 5070 or 9070/XT. Preferably Nvidia so you can use DLSS at 1440p, which looks really good.

>>107021046
are you sure that's 2 sticks of ram?
>>107021053
you can always manually set your ram to whatever speed you want

>>107021053
Thanks. I should have added that I prefer AMD cause I want to run Linux on the computer. I had OK experience running my 1070ti so far, but if the process could be even simpler, that would be nice.

>>107021073
Yeah, it should be 2. So a more "reputable brand of RAM but running at 6000Mhz would be preferable>

I was thinking of getting an HDD for backup of more important files and movie storage. What should I look out for beyond just disk space?

>>107021127
avoid SMR

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taking hdr screenshots is pretty weird with how image viewers handle it
normal image viewing tools dont even support it
im not sure if I need photoshop or something to resize a hdr image without the compression making it sdr or something

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>>107021099
>unning at 6000Mhz would be preferable>
Yes 2 sticks of 6000mhz 30CL ram would be preferable as in less headaches, as its the "sweet spot" between speed and stability
you could get a 750w psu safely if its noticeable cheaper (it wont but its worth mentioning)
Im not familiar with the motherboard but most local retailers dont carry a wide array of those so you might be limited there
The case comes with 2 fans according to amazon, i assume thats the 2 frontals and also includes the exhaust but make sure. Either way you probably want to buy a pack of 3 fans to set up on the top (or bottom) to help with the airflow, but that can be done later assuming you notice it running hot.
Good luck anon
Picrel is Tsuyujusa Kazuki, a half polish half japanese rikishi. The only polish rikishi to ever join the professional ranks of sumo, His highest rank was makushita 51

>>107021341
also the case seems to lack a frontal usb type C

>>107020683
>Just 2 months ago all discussion here was about Monitor display panel tech, resolution, and brands.
I solved the display question and left!

>PC hardware felt solved, yet now it's all shitflinging between Nvidifags and AMDfags.
literally is and that discussion is on hold until AMD competes, also a solved issue
why would it not be

>>107020705
>It hasn't progressed at all these last 10 years.
based schizo

>>107020871
yes but get 4k

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Thoughts? External 250GB SSD on a USB3.0-type port (5Gbit).

was thinking of buying a LG C4 tv as a monitor to replace my 4 monitors, 44", 48", 55", what size do you guys recommend?

>>107021556
some 32" oled monitor with no tv OS + some 27" on a monitor arm since having 2 monitors is more convenient for a lot of things

>>107021456
Main question is what are you using it for?
In isolation, 5Gb = 625MB so you're reasonably close to maxing out the bus on the sequential. It's maybe throttling somewhat or sharing bandwidth but honestly it's fine for a light-use external.
The random speeds are mediocre but, again, you wouldn't be using a small USB drive if you needed big IOPS.

>>107021341
I have an old case I can butcher for the fans, or maybe just reuse it. That one was chosen at random, apart from it having no side window.

Dziękuję, ありがとう

>>107021578
These speeds are fake, kinda, it runs out of cache in 16GB and starts writing at 40mb/s max. I use it like a flash drive, it looks like a flash drive, so it is a slightly fancier flash drive than most to me.
I wish I could use it for transfering games between my PC and my brother's, but it just takes ages to put anything on it bigger than 16GB, so I mostly use it for smaller files and offloading videos from my phone to it.
Maybe I should buy a Samsung T7 or something to get a proper external SSD experience.

>>107021598
That sounds normal. A 250GB drive doesn't have much room for SLC caching especially with 100GB of stuff already on it. If you do regularly transfer >>16GB of data you should look at 1TB minimum. IDK if that's worth it though; just how often do you transfer a whole game?

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what can i play with this bad boy /pcbg?

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>>107021556
just know it won't be the same with a single monitor vs multiple
I would say either 42" if you know you can't get fuck huge
or go straight to 55" it has higher brightness but also way bigger
55" is technically better spec wise, but 42" is more monitory
55" = 4x 27" 1080p's
42" = 4x 21" 1080p's
kinda

>>107021566
you can still have a monitor with a tv

>>107021702
GTA San Andreas
Half Life 2
CoD 1 and 2
NFS Most Wanted and Carbon
Basically most of the actually good straightmes. The only things it can't run are homosexual gaymes.

>>107021456
Sequential speeds seem about right, I think USB 3.0 has like a 20% translation overhead. (3.1 has only like 5%, much better.)
>>107021598
> fake, kinda, it runs out of cache
Right, smol TLC/QLC drives can get pretty slow after exhausting their SLC cache.
If it was an NVMe drive, even just with PCIe 3.0, you might still get hundreds of MB/s at that point - not so much with SATA.
> t7
Nice drive, still very happy with it.

The price of everything went up.
Fuck it.
I'm no longer building a PC.
I refuse to cooperate.

>>107021756
You need a 9800X3D for that, all of those games added ray-tracing

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>>107021757
It's a cool little drive for 30 euro. Supports USB 3.2 Gen 2 but neither my home PC (B650 mobo) or my work laptop (ProBook 4740s) support anything faster than 5Gbit.

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its nice that my 5y old gpu still hangs on thanks to the power of AI
transformer model works alright, cnn has only like 9 more average fps

I'd prob get more min fps if I bought a 9800x3d but that upgrades gonna cost about 700€ so maybe later.

Is the MSI e16m a good 4k alternative? They don't sell ktc monitors here

>>107021849
>more min fps
>it's 100+ already only 7 fps off average
you don't need more

>>107021909
outside of benchmark theres parts where the fps will dip 100%, you know its open world with dynamics stuff that requires extreme cpu spikes so its def something Id want eventually

>>107021761
Firstly stop being poor. The future is very Jewish, safeguard/futureproof your ass with money. Secondly you should build a PC, it is not the how that matters, it is the "why"?

If you are running 3-D hentai on AI models, then it is worth it.
If you are doing it just for playing woke triple A slop games where a women protagonist tells you how strong and independent they can be, then it is not worth it.

>>107021924
As an un-enjoyer of jews, it's kind of fucked up how my only allies in antisemitism are troons and fags.

>>107021756
holy BASED

>>107021977
It's only troons most fags are jewish

>>107022047
jews are mere blind servants of the demiurge

>>107021761
>He didn't pull the trigger before price hike
NGMI

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>>107018596
Does RAM speed matter on AM4 for AI? Considering going for 3600 CL16 over 3200 CL16, but I'm not sure if performance will be any different. If workloads take just a couple more seconds on the slower ram, then I can deal with it. Workloads being I2V (offloading to RAM), Stable Diffusion, and 3D animation (not AI but worth learning)
Will be paired to a Ryzen 5700X3D and 5060TI 16gb.

>>107022178
Won't have any difference on Stable Diffusion iterations per second. Maybe a tiny difference in load times, but that's more of a storage bottleneck I would assume. IT/s are entirely GPU dependent.
Don't know about the other usecases.

>>107022178
>still trying to minmax ram on am4 on x3d in 2025
>still unaware about unstable IF due to you pushing your mhz rams
enjoy your crackling audio and stuttershit and lag and pointless endeavours

>>107021186
the updated windows photo app can display hdr photos. you just need hdr on in windows first. viewing hdr in a browser is when it gets iffy.

>>107022218
3600 is the vanilla speed, hardly minmaxxing

>>107022237
literally not you are pushing the limits of what it can do
and as such it might not be 100% stable and you think just because your system boots and runs it's stable
but as I said, enjoy your unstable IF and crackling audio and other shit as a result of it as I said

>DRAM and HDD shortage right as I want to upgrade
Fuck off OpenAI

>>107022228
if I take photos, open jxr screenshot thats in hdr and click on the 3 dots and resize image using photos app theres no jxr output
you can use png, but then bandiview says the png output doesnt have hdr data

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>>107022274
No that would be 3733/3800. You may not remember but 3600 was a very popular speed back in AM4's heyday. Most Zen2+ CPUs can run it without issue. Still, you're right to say that minmaxing AM4 in 2025 is stupid.

>>107022274
Works on my machine

>>107021046
I remember the days when 5000 PLN could get you a lot more value for your money, I got my PC from 2015 from ESC. Motherboards and cases are so stupidly expensive now.

What's your logic behind buying a new Fractal case anyway especially one like that? Why not go with something used or a SilentiumPC case? Granted I still make use of drive bays.

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guys, I want to confess my sins. I've had monitors capable of 10-bit color (8-bit + dithering) for a long time, but only now have I realized you have to manually set the monitors to 10 bit color in the nvidia control panel to output 10 bit color.
Granted, i've never watched or gamed using hdr on my monitors so I never looked into it before.

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i have like 2k euro (slovakia)
and i want to build a pc for ai purpose llm /stabledifusion
is it better to build a pc with rtx 3090 used
or like prebuilt mini pc?
guide me sir

My computer tends to run for 6-9 hours a day and my electricity bills are getting expensive, I'd like to build a fully-featured desktop that has the lowest idle/desktop wattage possible while still delivering mid-range performance from about 6 years ago. What are my options?

Budget is around 900 euro, no particular on the GPU since I'm thinking of getting a workstation card.

>>107022353
I dont think thats gonna be impactful
games are today transitioning to 10bit colors for hdr implementations
youtube videos arent 10bit unles they're hdr I guess

>>107022358
Stable diffusion prob doesnt use that much vram compared to how large language predictors can get and you'd be fine buying some 5070 ti super with 24gb vram that releases Q1
3090 has shit energy efficiency in comparison

>>107022362
a mini PC with a Ryzen AI APU

>>107022358
what about prebuilt mini ai pc?

>>107022362
That's just the modern era. I pay more in fucking fees and surcharges and other bullshit than actual electricity usage at this point. I use maybe 65$ in actual electricity on a high month yet my bill is always 130 or more. JEWS ARE JEWING ME

>>107018825
>9950X3D
Doesn't affect the 9950 from what I understood? Maybe I'm wrong

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RTX 5050 GODS DEMOLISH GTX 1080 Ti

>>107022336
people were too ignorant to see potential problems
seems like pointless headaches regardless

>>107022342
*snap crackle pops*
*usb drops out*
nothin personel

>>107022550
I saw a youtube short meme about this months ago

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>>107022550
GTX? That still exists? Ain't no way

>>107022336
I'm running my ram at 3733 with straight 16 timings, and tuned subs. Passed a 12 hour memory test but I do crash occasionally and I suspect the memory might be the cause... Not gonna dial it back though. CPU is a 3600x, if I had a 5000 series I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem.

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Anyways back to this monitor
https://tv.mythomson.com/Thomson-Gaming-Monitor-27-QHD/M27QG5Y14
people in amazons review page says this has ghosting, but seen as how shit amazons page is, they literally group up several models on the same page and have a unified review page, so I'm not totally sure if it refers to this monitor
as a EvroGod I cannot literally comprehend how amazon even blew up as a company with such a shit site, literally worst thing I have ever laid my eyes upon

why this monitor? it's the cheapest in region by alot
how much ghosting can it have? it's a basic bitch 180hz IPS 120% SRGB, but I cannot find what panel the monitor uses and what other monitors might have it already

Buildzoid timings are a meme

>>107022550
I was on YouTube and Reddit when the 50-series and the AMD 9000-series were coming out, and there were a bunch of people claiming to be 1080 Ti owners that have FINALLY found the GPU they want to upgrade to - the 9070 XT.
Seems really fucking weird to me. What would make the 9070 XT particularly appealing to a 1080 Ti owner? Were they all paid by AMD to say the same thing or am I missing something?

>>107022598
They cannot afford a 5090 and are angry about it

>>107022565
Maybe so but then they did it anyway, en masse, and didn't experience those problems. It's dumb today - if you want max perf. just buy AM5 - but pretending you need a golden sample to run 3600 is equally dumb.

>>107020767
I did 6700XT>9070 at 1440p.
Random comparison: Dirt Rally 2.0 benchmark on ultra goes from ~130 to ~220 with my 5900X.

>>107022727
FPS that is.

>>107022424
Doubt, I feel the need for an ATX form factor desktop with IO that I can upgrade or swap.

>>107022921
You can't have your cake AND eat it. A miniPC with the Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 "Strix Halo" APU (word salad, I know) will perform similarly to an average mobile 4060 or a gimped low-TDP mobile 4070.
The whole APU has a TDP of 120W. A low end desktop GPU like the 4060 also has a TDP of around 120W, and that's the GPU alone. Not accounting for a 65W CPU and more.

>>107022727
i have a friend with a 6800xt that is thinking on upgrading i should keep poisoning his ear with posts like yours so he gives me his 6800

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>>107022962
That's a lot of power in such an envelope, wtf. Is it a monolithic chip? I was thinking of doing something like a T-series intel chip for low idle wattage and an RTX A4000 or something.

Is the 9950x3d really worth 200 dollars more than the 9800?

>>107023091
if you're doing multcore workloads for your employement, sure

>>107023103
I'm just gaymin but I heard it's pretty bad for multitasking like if you want to tab out and have youtube and other things going at the same time you'll get stuttering and such.

>>107023115
its not better at gaming except for like battlefield 6 or something
theres 16 core variant with dual x3d coming Q1 which might perform best in select games that utilize multicore

What's the current day equivalent of a Morpheus II cooler mod? I want my GPU to shut the fuck up.

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Nvidia xisters is it finally time for us to end our sad pathetic lives and join the 41%? Outer Worlds 2 another UE5 GeForce sponsored game just came out and the Radeon cards are all faster than our competing Nvidia equivalents even though we are supposed to have an advantage in Unreal Engine. 9070 XT is faster than FUCKING $1000 5080 IN THIS GAME FOR FUCK SAKE!!!!!
I don't want to live anymore it hurts my neovagina too much...

>>107021702
Söyo

I've used three Nvidia GPUs. Never again. AMD CPU + AMD GPU or go buy a fucking phone or nothing.

I used a GPU once, now I have aids. Integrated graphics is the only way.

>>107023091
For video encoding, yes. I got a used one for $530.
Although it's still disappointingly slow so if you need more power threadripper is the way to go.

>>107023266
Meds, now

>>107023464
Honestly GPU's are an outdated technology that needs to be retired. There is no reason you shouldn't be able to have everything done by the CPU.

so what happen with amd meme stone its already november

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>Bought 5070 ti cuz Im a compfag cs2 nigger and fell for the reflex meme
>Get constant stutters and crashes no matter which driver version and even with reinstalled windows
>Days of troubleshooting and no fix
>Switch to 9070 XT
>Locked 240hz and the frametime graph is literally a straight line
Well that was a week of hell but at least it's over now lmao

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>>107023266

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>107023585
>Posting his fake russian site again
Kill yourself

>>107023583
No you go away, make an alternative /AMDG/ or something

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>>107020770
this but unironically, nicotroon is too poor to afford anything besides a 1080p monitor, you can tell because he NEVER post benchmark above that resolution

Behold the might 9070 XT the 4k card doing less than 40 fps with FSR balance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_XLZOCpsuU

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>mfw my 5070ti still has bad drivers and crashing on every new game that comes out for a month straight until the AI coding the GeForce drivers manages to fix it.

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>>107023627
>Unplayable even with 50% resolution scaling
I love UE5 bros!

>>107023667
No one is playing that pozzed shit so it doesn't really matter.

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>mfw my 5070 still has bad drivers and running out of vram on every new game at 1440p

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>>107023670
how else could nicotroon cope about buying RDOA4 that is confirmed to age like dogshit.

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>Me when I'm amd-schizo and I wake up to see that the op still isn't all team-red

>>107023693
Honestly can't blame him, I would be pondering murder suicide if that happened to me.

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Just heatgun reflowed this piece of shit now I'm bullying it with nouveau+nvk

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>mfw my $1000 5080 still has bad drivers and the $600 dollar 9070 XT is faster than it with a 5 minute easy OC

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>>107023732

Right now, sold by amazon, in my country you can get a 9070xt 5€ cheaper than the cheapest 9070
Usually hovers at 650 (the cheapest 9070xt) and is now 599.
Im seriously considering it even when i dont really need the upgrade

>>107023715
Based
>>107023163
Unfortunately I don't really think there's anything but water blocks and nig rigging something up yourself at this point.
But good news is that there's not really any super bad cards anymore.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aV7NE15RSnY
Crazy that turning on raytracing on Wuthering Waves is still causing crashes for ShartForce but spoofing as an nvidia card on 9070 XT to run it is perfectly stable and works great.

>>107023670
True, but nearly every open world UE5 game runs like that if it uses Lumen, VSMs and Nanite.

>>107023755
>there's not really any super bad cards anymore.
My 3060 Ti Ventus 3X disagrees

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so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of playing wuchang fallen feathers when my connector melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore.

Looking into adding a 2tb nvme to my setup.
Samsung 990 EVO Plus ($140) or WD_BLACK 2TB SN8100 ($220)? I noticed the latter has greater speeds but I've yet to ever encounter a bottleneck due to my current nvme.

>>107023765
I can confirm this is real
Wuthering Waves consistently crashes on me after an hour and a half of playing. Umamusume: Pretty Derby has weird rendering glitches and artifacts. Zenless Zone Zero and Blue Archive are the worst, they straight up don't work and crash a minute after I start them. I've tried DDU, taking out the card and reseating it, fresh windows install, everything. My 5070 ti is literally incapable of rendering Gacha games so I'm switching to a 9070 XT as soon it gets here in the mail this week. Hopefully I can sell the 5070 ti for most of my money back on FB marketplace. Worst GPU I've ever owned because I had RDNA 1 and at least they actually fixed the driver issues eventually with that one.

>>107023868
If you have to ask you don't need gen 5, get the cheaper one.

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I hope whatever nvidia shits out next will actually push path tracing perf
who needs more raster perf? No one when dlss is a thing. Just dedicate more cores for rays and bounding volume hierarchy math or whatever

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Thots on sapphire mobos? Could be new value king after assrock dropped the ball hard.

Is there any insanely cheap fine enough HDR 4k monitors out there that I can use just to test if I really care about 4k or not. I already have a 1440 monitor but I'm just curious what 4k is like

>>107024383
KTC M27P6 I guess

>>107024383
go to a computer store and just look at their display pcs, there should be a 4k monitor there. Or even your local tech store.

guys I don't even think pc gaming is worth it anymore

build a $2,000 pc just to install the next 200 gb cod slop lol....

every game is 100gb+

I have 6mb/s internet lol. lmao even.

>>107024505
since you live in some rural area you could get starlink

>>107024383
The cheapest 4k HDR monitors are in the $700 region so no. If you ditch HDR you can get it a lot cheaper but I don't really see the point of buying something cheap because the things you might like - contrast, response, refresh, etc. - aren't found on cheap monitors. You could maybe go to a store and use a display model or buy from a retailer with a generous returns policy.

buy 5070 ti or wait for 5070 ti super(is it coming soon?)?
im on a 2070

>>107024528
yeah no.

I LIKE MY SLOW COMFY INTERNET.

I guess I will stick with my laptop and runescape lol

>>107024547
well the super is maybe 3 months out and will cost more?
wait if you need the extra vram

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>>107024383
is 4k good? yes
is 4k overrated on smaller display? can be maybe
is 4k+ overrated on larger display? no and lesser so because you actually see everything even more now
if you get a large enough tv and sit close enough you enter the realm of 5090 + superresolution at 5-12k instead because you realize 4k is not enough
small 2d elements in windows will look alot better and cleaner though. in 3d games on small screen it's kinda less important

BUT should you get a larger 4k display anyway? yes unless you are poor

there is no reason to get lower other than budgetmaxxing or really needing higher refresh rate

>>107024505
>I have 6mb/s internet lol. lmao even.
anything less than 1Gbps is pain downloading shit. 100Mbps is fucking brutal downloading slop on
(good morning I hate the old people I were renting from before)

>>107024505
>I don't even think pc gaming is worth it anymore
a low end build runs laps around ps5 pro aka the most powerful console currently in terms of picture quality and frame rate
more like a console is not worth it
but if you are saying gaming in general yeah maybe not

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>mfw my 5090 still has bad drivers and missing ROPs

>>107024748
>cycling through the same images and replies every thread
what level of mental illness is this?

>>107024756
russian troll factories dont mind people realizing that its disingenous spam, they still achieve their end goal of making online discussion a frustrating and less useful experience to the english speaking world

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GeForce sisters how do I respond without sounding mad when Nico Poster tells me that we're still not capable of playing the only game worth getting a new pc for, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered?
It's playable on the current gen midrange Radeon cards (9070 and 9070 XT) because of Smart Access Memory, but we don't have that nor a working rebar to brute force higher 1% lows.
How do I cope???

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>>107024787

>>107024787
>still mad about shitposters that don't even post here anymore (they were all basically copying you and just changing nvidia to amd anyways)
lol, mind raped.
You can force rebar with inspector. Also the insane 1% lows on nvidia in ue5 is basically a Daniel Owen exclusive thing, there's something wrong with his setup. Probably something he did in afterburner monitoring.
>>107024779
Pretty sure amd guy is American he's just insanely autistic

>>107024881
>1% lows on nvidia in ue5 is basically a Daniel Owen exclusive thing, there's something wrong with his setup. Probably something he did in afterburner monitoring.
Daniel has the exact same setup for testing both GeForce and Radeon cards so if something is causing an issue for the Nvidia cards but not AMD that is still a negative for the nvidia gpu because that means it is less stable with software that radeon can run perfectly fine. But more likely nothing is wrong with his setup and you're neovagina is just dilating because he has benchmarks that make njudea look bad.

>>107024795
what triggers me most about these screenshots is that the retard could not be poor enough to turn on higher bandwidth video and screenshot 240p

>>107024779
I'm going with severe autism

>>107024929
even the bald canadian along with techyes and many other say that 5000 series is unstable and pozzed so
still, buy 5090 or cope

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Why does this case cost like 8 times more than it should, same with the FLP02? I think I might just be better off repainting a used case instead.

>>107024974
meme case. not a real product. made for youtube videos.

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>>107024953
>what triggers me most about these screenshots is that the retard could not be poor enough to turn on higher bandwidth video and screenshot 240p
They are screenshots from my phone that is why they look bad bro. My PC screenshots are all 1440p

>>107024996
don't tell me you are so tech illiterate you can't change resolution on yt app

>>107024974
>man this case is too expensive!
then don't buy it. I just checked that model on australian websites and it was priced more or less on par with other higher-end cases.

>>107024996
>They are screenshots from my phone that is why they look bad bro
get back to work troon
estrogen production is down 10%

>>107025081
What exactly about this or those cases is "high-end" exactly? Last time I checked it doesn't look like a Phanteks Enthoo Pro or that legendary fancy silver box from 2005 by someone I forgot.

>>107025101
im being generous with my words, because the anon is from a poorfag euro country and i didn't want to hurt his feelings. The case is honestly kinda cheap, at least at the retailers im looking at.

www.pccasegear.com/products/71408/silverstone-flp01-retro-inspired-htpc-chasis

>>107024996
Rate my edits to the op :

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9600/X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12/13100(~$65), 12400, 12600K
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 14700K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*Raptor Lake launched with issues that could cause rapid degradation, exercise caution if buying second-hand. Make sure microcode is updated


>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090
*FutureProofing: In general a better featureset has been winning out over vram and to an extent raw performance in the long term

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>107025162
Kill yourself

>>107025162
very heterosexual

>>107025162
As a gamer/hobby productivity software user intel seems kinda silly. Their platforms are dead end, amd am5 has upgrade options so your intel budget options is saying "next time you want a better cpu you'll buy a new mobo platform :D"
I dont want estrogen cores to touch my desktop.
Intel CAN price their cpus to be cost effective, while losing money so its a bit eh.
x3d isnt good at productivity apps, its for mixed use gaming and productivity.

Asrock fixed their bios so who cares at this point.

For gpus I'd remove all intel and amd options. You dont get anything out of buying 8gb amd over 5060, intel isnt competitive really. 5070 is best value, 5070 ti is best value for higher end
"native" doesnt exist. Your 4k path traced games are going to be around 100 fps with 5090 with dlss.

>recommending 8x gpus
so this is why you banevade

>>107025361
>For gpus I'd remove all intel and amd options.
Actual shill just kill yourself. Alternatives must be given. In my country 9070 XT is 200 euro cheaper than 5070 ti and 9070 is 100 euro cheaper than 5070.

>>107025407
how do you factor in wild country specific price fluctuation in the OP recommendations
>if you live in serbia def buy amd

>>107025428
That is why you just put all current gen options that are avaliable so everyone knows what to look at wherever they and live and then decides based on their local pricing you fucking shill

>>107025361
>Their platforms are dead end, amd am5 has upgrade options so your intel budget options is saying "next time you want a better cpu you'll buy a new mobo platform :D"
budget buyers don't upgrade every generation
or well i'm sure some of them do but that's retarded
>I dont want estrogen cores to touch my desktop
no one cares what you want personally, E-cores are great
>Intel CAN price their cpus to be cost effective
they are cost effective right now
>x3d isnt good at productivity apps
yes they are, there's nothing better than a 9950X3D, and that's reflected in the price

retarded redditor, do some research yourself instead of parroting what your favorite techtuber told you this week

>>107025407
alternatives don't need to be given if they don't exist
but the 9060/9070 XT is worth considering so they should stay in

>>107025162
Take out the 14700K and 12/13100 ffs.
The OP is meant for noobs, 14700K needs manual tuning because it is too power inefficient with the newest BIOS settings.
Recommend the 12100/13100 when a poorfag asks for the cheapest modern chip, this shit is relevant to maybe one person out of 30 threads.
If you need to provide all those long explanations and caveats in the OP, the recommendations are bad.

>>107025460
Part of am4 and am5 success is the support length
you buy 2600x, then 4 years later you upgrade to 5700x3d. And same applies to am5 where people may go 7600 - > 10800x3d or something

why would estrogen cores be great in space where energy isnt constrained. you can just use the space for real cores like amd
Intels cost effectiveness came after steep price cuts to match amd, and you still have the platform being bad for upgrading thing going on.
x3d is PRIMARILY for gaming. If you dont game then its not cost effective

>>107025507
>Part of am4 and am5 success is the support length
yes, that's the narrative AMD created and it was a very successful bet for them
>you buy 2600x, then 4 years later you upgrade to 5700x3d
i had a 1700X on a B350
then i upgraded to a 5800X, but i also bought a new B550 because that old B350 sucked ass
could i technically have used the 5800X on the old B350? sure, if i waited for BIOS updates
did i want to live with the terrible I/O, reduced memory speed and cheap VRMs? no
i've fallen for this trap before, just get something good now instead of worrying about how the platform will hold up in 5 years
budget buyers are gonna cheap out on the mobo and RAM
and you either cope with that decision for the lifetime of the platform or you end up spending as much as someone who switched platforms every upgrade anyway
>why would estrogen cores be great in space where energy isnt constrained. you can just use the space for real cores like amd
E-cores are space efficient, not energy efficient
you always have to compromise in some way with more than 8 cores on current platforms
AMD separates the cores into two 8+8 CCDs connected over a slow bus
intel only gives you 8 real cores and adds a bunch of extra tiny cores that are only active in MT workloads
>Intels cost effectiveness came after steep price cuts to match amd
yeah that's why they're a good choice now
but redditors still feel like they have to repay AMD for giving them cheap zen 2 CPUs that are already obsolete
>x3d is PRIMARILY for gaming. If you dont game then its not cost effective
if you're buying a 9950X3D you don't care about "cost effectiveness"
it's a halo product and that's fine

>>107025396
I don't even understand what this means
>>107025439
Well that wouldn't fit + it wouldn't be at all coherent anyways, might as well just give links to Wikipedia
>>107025464
>12/13100
The i3 is based and stays in
>caveats
The asrock and microcode things seem pretty important

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I have 2 screens, a main evnia 4k 240hz and a benq 1080p 60fps vertical, and a 4080s.
I have absolutely no problems with them, but once in a blue moon, after I run the monitor for a long time, like 8 hours, i turn of the pc, and when i come back and load into windows, my qdoled is all covered in pic related - rgb noise, but my vertical monitor is 100% fine and working. Restarting monitor fixes it, so does restarting PC. Sometimes the whole monitor is covered, sometimes just half or and its in chunks. My theory is that the monitor is simply getting disturbed from a routine pixel refresh, because im running into a good amount of bugs as the vertical and landscape setup of my monitors, alongside with vastly different hz settings fucks with a lot of programs.

I suspect either:
>loose cable
>new driver issues
>old firmware of monitor acting up and fucking up when disturbed from routine pixel refresh

Because of the other monitor working 100% fine, there is no way this could be caused by gpu, correct? If there was anything wrong with the gpu, it would 100% affect both screens at once. And once again this only happens when the monitor has been off for under 30 minutes after a long session of being up, never on a cold start, never mid session of work/gaming, never after restarting. No artefacts or any glitches any other time either.

>>107025616
8x pcie lanes, of course you wont understand
>based
based on what

>>107025657
Based on the fall of the roman empire.

>>107025616
>The asrock and microcode things seem pretty important
ASRock is obviously relevant for AM5 builders.
Your description for the Intel BIOS is too long, shorten it.
i3 is just a marketing name, you don’t recommend 4 core CPUs to new PC builders in 2025.
People with sub $500 budget are better off buying a discounted laptop.

OP isn’t about putting stuff you like, you recommended parts people would realistically consider in their new PC.
This is PC Building General, not PC Upgrade General.
The priority should be recommending parts that are good for a new PC.

>>107025687
>The priority should be recommending parts that are good for a new PC.
That makes sense to me, (nta) ppl will also ask about upgrading and will be helped all the same but the OP should be about making new builds on different tiers of budgets

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>buy bottom left mid range qdoled because you want the value
>it's supposed to look like upper left in brightness output but it's limited from factory down to basic bitch woled levels and constrained levels to not compete
>forced to go top left
>get matte coating forced if you don't wanna do the peel and lose your warranty
>get one connect box forced and will get tizen tier drop outs most likely
>it's either glossy mid range in one single size model since no one else ships in qdoled or just buy the toppest end
>no one else except Samsung makes viable oled tvs
>still the superior tech but only other option is LG woleds
>you get diagonal dithering and worse uniformity still but atleast it won't drop out most likely
it's over

>>107025649
sounds like it's just not handshaking and it lost connection
the pixel refresh mode should be just rotating full screen R/G/B colors, not scrambled noise like that
but idk

When do Black Friday sales start

>>107018596
Why has the 9900X? Is it just due to its current bad value or does it have any issues?

Do watercooling shops like titanrig/modmypcs/ppcs do black friday sales? I'm ready to pull the trigger but saving a few shekels is always appreciated.

What's the most modern 4:3 desktop monitor that I can still buy? I don't like the idea of running some 40W shitbox from 2005.

If not, 16:10 monitors would be nice. Preferably something with low input lag, good colors, and at least 350 maximum brightness. Good for workstation tasks. I just prefer having more vertical space.

>>107025787
Very specific niche, best for a budget workstation because it has two six core chiplets.
It runs most games like a slightly better 9600X because one chiplet is parked due to latency issues.

>>107025787
Intel cut prices recently so Core Ultra chips fill the "budget workstation" niche better. It's marginal though; if the price swings the other way in your country or you use AVX512 feel free to pick the R9.

>>107025687
>People with sub $500 budget are better off buying a discounted laptop.
What if they want to play video games on pc too though? Like a 12100 + Turing or something is still totally usable today, would imagine someone in that position would be happy with it. As far as I know a laptop in that price range would maybe be a 3050 and a low power 4 core
And the i3 + used boards being so cheap has made any other ultra-poorfag option totally irrelevant.
>PC Building General, not PC Upgrade General
Fair enough

>>107025865
Would the 9900X be a good processor for a Linux-only work machine? Or should I still consider the 265K even though I'd be pairing it with an AMD card? Does SAM give any advantages for desktop usage?
>>107025896
265K is 90€ cheaper than the 9900X in my country, but Intel mobo and faster RAM sticks are generally more expenisve so the total platfrom cost is about the same (maybe the Intel one is slightly more expensive). I don't even know what AVX512 is.

>>107025861
The LG 28MQ780-B might be worth a look if you really want vertical space. It's only 60Hz though and no VRR etc. so definitely a "work only" panel. Still, 16:18 aspect is very tempting.

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Holy fuck I hate fedex so much it's unreal. Every other delivery service can easily find my apartment but not them they send my shit to some random fucking place. Then I have to pull teeth to talk to someone about it and of course it's a fucking poo I can barely understand. Spent 5 minutes giving him my email because he couldn't understand half the letters and I had to spell it out military style 3 times for him. I hate this brown shitty world so much.

>>107025900
The fact that you need to make up these hypotheticals show how bullshit your i3 recommendation is.
When those destitute people show up, give them a personalized build instead of wasting character space for people who rarely visit this thread.

Most people who’s asking for budget PC builds can at least afford a 12400F.
And put the fucking 7500F and 7600X in the budget CPU.

>>107025940
I got a ups box to get around carrier confusion, they even sign for packages.

>>107025929
9900X is fine for a work only build.
SAM is just AMD’s branding name for the resizable BAR PCIe standard.
Hardware Canucka ran some CPU + GPU benchmarks recently, a 9070 XT or 9060 XT paired with Intel CPUs kept up with their competing Ryzen CPUs with ResizableBAR enabled.

need some advice. Should I get the the 245kf over the 9600x for a primarily gaming focused pc? Grabbing the 5070 ti but there are no decent am5 mobo's under $150 so I figured I'd go with a asus prime b860m-k

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I'm not happy with my monitor having an annoyingly angular gaymer look to it, I want to repaint it white but also want to replace the stand since it supposedly is VESA compatible.

Any suggestions on what the cheapest VESA 100x100 mounts are these days?

>>107025929
>I don't even know what AVX512 is
You probably want to find out. Reason being that they're within 5% of each other under most circumstances but Zen5 has access to 512b AVX512 instructions which can mean a >20% perf. boost. That's enough of a swing to decide the matter alone. To be fair full-width AVX is not common on desktop apps but does see some use in more professional software. As always, check benchmarks for the programs you actually intend to use.

>>107023585
>RT
>DLSS
consider the rope

>>107026003
9600X will provide better out of the box gaming performance.
245 will need manual tuning to catch up, but your Oc options are limited with that B860 board.

>>107025929
>Does SAM give any advantages for desktop usage?
SAM is literally just a marketing name for resizable BAR
it doesn't even exist as a concept on linux
it's just called resizable BAR because that's what it actually is when you don't have the marketing department breathing down your neck
>>107025950
>And put the fucking 7500F and 7600X in the budget CPU
do we really need four AM5 6-cores in the OP
7500F is cool i guess
>>107026003
>Should I get the the 245kf over the 9600x for a primarily gaming focused pc?
no, you should get a 14600K

>>107026003
It would be fine to do but if you consider a Prime -K to be "decent" then there are plenty of AM5 boards under $150.

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Cases like this?

My new PC keeps restarting at random, already replaced PSU, RAM and GPU but the motherboard has a Yellow led on, what's more likely a faulty CPU or a faulty motherboard? The motherboard is a msi mag b850m mortar wifi with a ryzen 7500f

guys pls buy amd so nvidia gets cheaper

>>107026072
If it's the debug LED you mean go find out what component it's referencing. They should be labelled.

>>107026077
I agree, buy more Radeon cards.
So I can get better GeForce cards.

How do I into NAS?

>>107026015
>As always, check benchmarks for the programs you actually intend to use.
The only programs I use for work are Google Chrome and most Google Workspace apps. I don't know if a 9900X would be overkill for these tasks and if a 9700X would be enough (this is the other CPU I'm considering) but ideally I'm looking for a beefy CPU which could last me for multiple years and I wouldn't mind spening more for the 9900X if it quickened all the operations I daily do.

>>107025861
4k oled + custom resolution to suit your autism
but it wont be 350nits
any 4k display + custom res

DDR5-8000 32GB is now only $30 more expensive than DDR5-6000 32GB

>>107026004
I got two Invision MX200 three weeks ago and they're alright so far.

>>107026125
>I don't know if a 9900X would be overkill for these tasks
lol yes it would be
the 9700X would give the same performance
but i understand wanting the browser to go fast, some of these sites are bloated as hell
>>107026135
that's because it's the same product
hynix DDR5 doesn't clock wall until well beyond the capabilities of most motherboards and IMCs

>>107026125
9700X is good enough for those web apps. And you get an 8 core chiplet.

>>107026125
Shit man you'd probably be fine with a 9600(X) or weaker. "Workstation", as a term, usually means more heavy number crunching and such; less so spreadsheets and emails. Feel free to get the 9700(X), or equivalent Intel, if you want to be safe but really don't sweat it.

>>107026086
In theory it's the led for the ram but i already replaced It with three different brands and tried all the slots but It keeps lighting up, at this point I think it's the motherboard, i tried asking here since i've never bought a msi product before so i don't know if they are good quality, thanks anyway

>>107025950
>And put the fucking 7500F and 7600X in the budget CPU.
Pricing seems fucked at least in the United States

>>107026186
Is it lighting up during POST? If so leave it on for 10 minutes for training. If it's crashing from the desktop, then lighting up, it's probably the board but could be a faulty CPU.

>>107026171
>>107026179
>>107026180
>but i understand wanting the browser to go fast, some of these sites are bloated as hell
The main question is: "Would a 9900X make my browsing experience faster than the 9700X?"Also I forgot to tell that I daily browse folders containting 5k images and videos with thumbnails every day and I use a lot of online AI generators.

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Controversial opinion, contrast is overrated
Color saturation and motion clarity is more important
Low contrast is almost easier on your eyes
IPS might have won after all

t. currently running windows calibration with the slider set all the way so gamma is cranked so screen is brighter because my screen is too dim without and I lose shadow detail and I prefer to see shit

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Anybody got a spare win11 key cuz i built my rig without one. Help a niggette out

>>107026212
Oh I remember you from the last thread. As I recall the heaviest thing you do is occasional image editing so the 9700X (or 245k) should be more than enough. Getting a 12/16-core would be more of a luxury; generating thumbnails in 0.05 seconds vs. 0.1. Luxury is fine, especially if your boss is paying for it, but the minmax would be a lower-end chip.

>>107026231
https://massgrave.dev/

>>107026201
It lights up during post but crash at random intervals from the desktop even if i'm not doing anything, unfortunately i don't have another am5 CPU at hand so i'll try returning the motherboard

>>107026249
Ok thank you friend. And yep, it's me. Compared to a i5 6500, which is the CPU I'm using now, how faster would a 9700X be in those tasks?

>>107026252
How reliable is it? Will it be unsafe on the long run if win11 can't update?

>>107026266
Alright. Here's some things I'd try first, or while your RMA ticket is processing:
>Clear CMOS (hope you did this already but I'll say it anyway)
>Run without EXPO
>Try 1 stick at a time
>Update BIOS
You should also reseat your components just on the off-chance something is loose. If the CPU is badly mounted, eg. from uneven cooler pressure, it can ruin signal integrity to the RAM.

>>107026286
If you use the hardware ID option, MS severs will know your PC has been activated and won’t nag you after a OS clean install.

>>107026326
Guh I'm too new to tech I know I'll fuck something up. Shoulda dated that eastern european programmer

>>107026267
Hard to say really since AFAIK nobody benches thumbnail generation but the 9700X is anywhere from 50% to 500% faster (1T to nT). I imagine generation is well-threaded since each image can be analyzed independently. The GPU should also help for video files.

5090s are dropping even more in price 2000€ lowest now even cheaper than the fe

>>107026419
I have one and I'm proud of it

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>>107026505
Alternative /amdg/

Spamming is against the rules
This is the real thread. And it is not amdg since there is two vendors recommended in the gpu section
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>>107026544
>Spamming is against the rules
Speak for yourself, faggot.
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Hey /pcbg/, I just wanted to say thank you for your help during these past couple of months. Today my 140mm fans arrived so I finally started building my first PC and I've been spending the afternoon building it. I'm now on the arduous process of cable management and plugging everything in the right slots of the motherboard and PSU, but I should be done soon.

It surely isn't the best thing ever, but I'm very happy with it. So again, thank you for your help.

>>107026868
I think I was one of the people that helped you. That's very sweet enjoy your pc anon :)

What is the fastest flash drive you can get?

>>107026954
If you want speed you need to get an external ssd poopie head not a flash drive

>>107026868
well hurry up hurry up hurry up hurry up hurry up hurry up build it build it build it build it build it build it build it build it build it build it build it

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hey pcbg, wanted your opinions on this. i have the antec flux pro and a 420mm lf3 and i wanted to mount it on the front with tubes down, but saw that there is no space, so instead of mounting it with tubes up i decided to put it on top. the configuration that i think is best is pic related, with the rad fans in pull config and case fans in front and rear as exhaust; the gpu has its on intake on the bottom.
cant do any tests because im still missing the cpu from the build, but do you think putting the rad in front or configuring the top rad fans as exhaust instead of pull might be better?

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>>107026868
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>>107027006
It's nicotroon necroing old posts.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105522465/#105522947

>>107027019
Necrotroon, go fuck yourself.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103254965/#103255923

>>107027019
Make front intake as well or your cpu temps will be dogshit

>>107026224
>motion clarity
Except oled has that with 0.1ms basically instant response times tard

>>107027028
Nicofag's necroing old posts to bump this thread and distract people away from the one someone else made.

>>107027036
Worse contrast also makes images appear hazy.

>>107026252
>Was wasting money on those shitty key sites each time for all the pc flips I've been doing
Thank you SO much

just report him for spam

>>107026535
this is the actual thread btw, since someone is trying to bury posts for some reason

>>107027053
Oled has the best contrast to ur actually braindead

Migrate
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>>107027063
You're the braindead retard who didn't realize I was talking about the downside IPS.