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Previous thread: >>107009810
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At what percentage of desktop user share is MS releasing Office on Linux? And don't say shit like hurr durr monopoly MS hates Linux because they clearly don't and support a ton of shit on Linux and contribute to development. They probably make more from Office than Winshit.
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Nice picture moron.
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News:
Kepler GPUs are now viable
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>>107021853
They expect you to be on Windows using Office using WSL for Linux stuff.
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>>107021853
Office365 in web browser?
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>>107021899
ewww
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>>107021853
It's already released and it's called Office 365. The offline MS Office is a legacy tool.
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>>107021831
>>107021868
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Man
you guys are obsessed with Statcounter
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hyprland noob here. How do I make the menu key function as the alt gr?
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>>107021831
>india, entrepreneurs
>bahamas, consumers
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>>107021675
exFAT doesn't have permissions, so you won't be in a situation where you can't just put shit on your storage because it's owned by another user on another OS. However, it's not very reliable, so generally used as temporary/portable storage for shit you already have a copy of somewhere else.

NTFS is usually fine, but Windows will most likely complain about it being corrupted when it detects that Linux has been writing into it. You might also have to find ways to make it writeable in Linux.

If you care about your data, best thing to do would be to store it in something like ZFS. You can try your luck with the Windows OpenZFS port, or use SMB/NFS like everyone else.
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>clean up some disk space
>notice that i have
>.local/share/umu
I have never installed umu or used it in my life. I only use Bottles and Steam and Bottles is a flatpak.
I thought Linux was supposed to be so efficient, I don't want random files polluting my filesystem.
Flatpaks were supposed to be so safe too.
Does Steam make this directory? Wouldn't make any sense because it has its own file structure.
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>>107022477
>Does Steam make this directory?
Yes, if a game requests it.
>Wouldn't make any sense because it has its own file structure.
It doesn't containerize your video games. Games can request access to any file and file path your user/account has access to. And a lot of games store their config files, save data, etc., in your home directory. If you don't want this to happen then use the Flatpak version of Steam.
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>>107021785
nta but im using ntfs-3g to access a shared drive and my pc hasnt exploded yet
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>>107022510
I did some tests and at least Bottles doesn't do anything.
Need to allocate more space to my home directory then. Don't play that many games but it's somewhat alarming that Steam is hogging so much space.
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>>107022568
Me too, but in just a few days I've experienced:
>booting into windows and having it complaing about corruption on my drive
>installing a python venv on linux, coming back the next day without even booting into windows in the meantime, and finding the symlinks broken with "unsupported reparse tag"
>lutris giving a big warning when attempting to install anything and directly stating "Games and programs installed on Windows drives *don't work*"
this stuff makes me nervous so I'd like to know if there are better alternatives.
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>>107022743
did you turn off fastboot in windows?
that's the thing that shreds your drives
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>>107022753
>did you turn off fastboot in windows?
yes it caused some problems leaving my drive read-only on linux so I turned it off, the things I mentioned happened later
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>>107022776
did you verify that you are using ntfs-3g?
it should say fuseblk instead of ntfs
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>>107021831
Is there software on Linux similar to jdownloader 2?
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>>107022862
jdownloader 2
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>>107022810
ntfs-3g is what it says in fstab at least
what command should I run to verify?
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>>107022885
you can just check with fastfetch
but mounting it as ntfs-3g in fstab is right
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>>107022904
yes that says fuseblk
thanks for the help so far, I guess I'll just carry on like this and let it motivate me to keep more regular backups
until the day I get rid of windows for good
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>>107021831
These threads move way too fast
>>107018191 (me)
>>107018214
I'm using one a usb Y spliter to connect both a mic and a pair of headphones. I also tried connecting my IEM (built-in mic) through usb-c, same problem. It seems to only affect recording.
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>I have had multiple instances of Windows wiping out entire Linux partitions and even a data-only partition just because [Windows] didn't recognize the format.
>I have lost so much data from unexpected events like doing a Windows update and having it wipe the dual boot files and then continuing on to overwriting partition data to wipe Linux completely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C44iCr6czAo&t=1127s
>If you accidentally go into Disk Management and decide to view a Linux partition, which it will not recognize, you might accidentally overwrite the entire partition and lose everything.
>At the very least, it should recognize a foreign partition and not allow a write, at least without a ton of warnings. But there's no warning. It just overwrites and your Linux partition, with all your data, is suddenly wiped out just because you decided to have Linux coexist with Windows [...].

Is this true?
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>>107023066
I've heard about Windows nuking Linux bootloaders but not the other stuff
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>>107023066
No. It will not do anything without user input. However it WILL prompt you to format unknown partitions and lost data is just a quick "yes" away. And it will destroy any foreign bootloader on the same drive as its own.
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>>107023066
EFI bootloaders have known issues, like it might share the ESP and you'll have to restore the bootloader, but not nuking entire data partitions.
>you might go into Disk Management and choose to nuke your Linux partition!
Oh no, it's retarded. Sounds like he just nuked the data partition itself and is blaming the computer for his own retardation.
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>>107023066
>I have lost so much data from unexpected events like doing a Windows update and having it wipe the dual boot files and then continuing on to overwriting partition data to wipe Linux completely.
I'm not sure about data partitions, but Windows did historically wipe other boot loaders after almost every update. But I remember them saying that this issue got fixed earlier this year.
>If you accidentally go into Disk Management and decide to view a Linux partition, which it will not recognize, you might accidentally overwrite the entire partition and lose everything.
Well yes, and if you point a gun at your dick you might accidentally lose it.
>At the very least, it should recognize a foreign partition and not allow a write
Absolutely not. The whole point of a disk management utility is to manage disks/partitions.
>at least without a ton of warnings
Sure, destructive operations should have both a warning and a confirmation. I have no idea if Windows does since I haven't used it in a decade. But I really don't believe they just allow you to do this without confirmation. At worst they're probably prompting you to format a disk to a supported fs, just like Android does if you plug in an SD card or USB storage which has an unsupported file system. But again, this would just be the user clicking "Format" rather than Windows doing it automatically.
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>I want to backup windows so I install aomei backupper, select system backup and it just works (tm)
>I want to backup macos so I connect an external SSD, point Time Machine at it and click 'back up now'
>I want to backup fedora so I have no fucking idea what the distinction between OS and user backups even is, why the fuck can't I just backup everything except folders I exclude
wtf
>if you have an nvidia gpu you should install drivers from rpm fusion repo
>do you want to enable rpm fusion repo? yes
>.... uh what now?
>get to `https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#About_this_Howto` but god only knows if I picked the right commands, no idea how to check whether the correct thing is installed or not
maybe I should have figured out backups before pasting random commands but holy fuck what is wrong with the tooling? it's just backup
idk man
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>>107023393
can you calm down and explain what exactly you're trying to do?
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>>107023520
>can you calm down
no
>explain what exactly you're trying to do?
no
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>>107021831
is there a new go-to openbox-type de? something dead simple and reliable and lightweight, but easily customizable for keybinds and navigable with keyboard alone?
I've been using openbox for the past 10+ years because it's simple and works, but it's been getting a little buggy (couple serious crashing issues the past couple years) and some of the associated tools seem to be more and more out of date, so I'm thinking about swapping off it when I migrate to a new laptop

also I never swapped from x to wayland and nothing ever broke, do I have to do that or is it a meme
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>>107023601
still working fine for me
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>>107023601
All the cool kids use Hyprland these days. However that is somewhat fancy.

Then there is labwc as a wayland alternative to openbox.
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What's so great about vim anyway?
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>>107023949
It both cures and causes autism, simultaneously.
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>>107023601
Labwc is Openbox for Wayland:
https://github.com/labwc/labwc

It's what XFCE's Wayland implementation is recommended to use at the moment.
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>>107022389
There's actually a decent Windows BtrFS driver the ReactOS guys use if you only need access from one particular Windows system.
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What's the best window tiling manager for Mint?
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Is there a program similar to ShareX in Linux?
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>>107023601
labwc mostly works like openbox but the theme engine doesn't support gradients in titlebars yet.
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>>107024377
https://github.com/KDE/spectacle
yeah
KDE ships with spectacle which is pretty much sharex
you can take screenshots/record, edit that screenshot on the fly and then upload it to imgur for example
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>>107023658
>>107024230
what's the wayland vs x tradeoff? looks like it's slightly faster and more secure, but doesn't allow x forwarding? and is it still buggy or has all that been worked out?
>>107024385
that's ok, I undecorate/hide titlebars 99% of the time anyway
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>>107024377
Depends. Want to region-record videos with sound? You are out of luck and you should code your own ffmpeg script then.
There is nothing that has as many features as shareX as far as I know, but spectacle is close I guess.
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>>107024434
X11 Forwarding works fine via XWayland, that retards that parrot that don't know what they're talking about.

You can also use Waypipe if ever you have a need for network transparency via Wayland. It works quite well, much better than the shitty X11 Forwarding in my experience (you can actually run a remote instance of Firefox for example and not have it turn into a slideshow when scrolling. X11 Forwarding is a really shitty and inefficient remoting protocol)
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I installed Mint MATE for my mother on her dogshit, ancient laptop that can barely run Win10(takes about three minutes just to open the browser) hoping to surprise her a little. It works fine, but she needs Google Play Games to play her shitty little mobile game on it. I've looked and it seems my options are Waydroid and Anbox, except the latter has been deprecated since 2023 and the former requires Wayland, which as far as I'm aware has zero support on MATE and only initial support on Cinnamon. Is there any way I could get this shit to work? I don't really want to swap to another distro but I wouldn't mind doing it if it's the easiest way.
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>>107024377
Spectacle for me. You might have to configure some things to get it right but it's the closest anything has come. I wish the zoomed view showed a pixel grid but that's minor honestly.
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>>107024497
Try FydeOS, it's a ChromiumOS fork with Android app integration
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>>107024357
Anyone?
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>>107021873
can u elaborate? is nouveau finally better than proprietary?
https://www.phoronix.com/news/NVK-Kepler-Vulkan-1.2
is this what you're referring to ? or something more recent?
>>107024497
you can use weston
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>>107024627
wdym? there is nothing specific about mint
hyprland is all the rage now
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>>107024627
dwm if you wanna fuck
i3 if you want it to just werk with less setup
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>>107024643
It works better on the desktop but games are slower. Can't really test the proprietary driver because I could get the 470xx driver installed. Overall It's usable in mesa 25.2.5
just installed mesa 26 for further testing.
also reflowed my GTX 780 I can test that too
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>>107024668
i3 if you actually want to fuck
Dwm if you're a tinker trannie that wants his ass fucked
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Arch.
How does nvidia GPU work on wayland? Is it smooth? Can you gaym on wayland with nvidia gpu without headache?
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>>107024998
Depends on your gpu generation.
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>>107024998
i got a 4070 and some games have issues
darktide had weird frametime but idk if its because of the game or the drivers
bf4 had desynced audio for me and opening the ingame console made me spin like crazy and i got banned by punkbuster so i uninstalled
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is it true that Linux can't do adaptive brightness (winshit can)
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>>107025079
It's a RTX 3050. Should it have any other specification?
>>107025137
>darktide
That I've played before on win10 with this same 3050 and it runs smooth without weird framerates, as long as framegen and some other bullshit is disabled. Maybe it's the drivers?
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>>107024789
perverting the incredibly male concept of tinkering into some only mentally ill troons do (which is arguable anyway) is a really slippery slope. i don't think you know what you're doing.
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>>107025149
Not true at all
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>>107025174
3000 generation is basically best case scenario for linux I think
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>>107025197
Tinker troons are men, yes. Well done for noticing
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>>107025215
then why make the distinction, fucking retard. you're clearly trying to harm the idea of tinkering by associating it with troons. are you jewish perhaps
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>>107024377
Spectacle and Flameshot.

>>107024497
FydeOS. Alternatively, you could just use KDE Plasma as a DE to have Wayland. After some tweaking it can run on very weak hardware, but I'm not sure how performant Waydroid would be.

>>107025149
As in using the light sensor to adjust brightness automatically? That's supported just fine. I guess there could be some devices which use specific unsupported sensors, but from my experience it works fine.
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>>107025231
Tinkerers are these people with adblockers and shitty used Thinkpads. We're losing profits because of them.
Just buy a new PC with Windows 11. Buy a new phone every year. AND WATCH ZE ADS
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>linux mint
>right click 'start menu' and edit menu
>select item, edit desktop file
>can't save the changes because i'm not root
>try to copy the address but the file selector display buttons instead of full address
Who the hell thinks this is okay?
Yes I know I can do it in 5 different ways but at least implement an user interface what works. Linux is full of things like these, regardless of desktop environment.
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>>107025275
>As in using the light sensor to adjust brightness automatically? That's supported just fine. I guess there could be some devices which use specific unsupported sensors, but from my experience it works fine.
yeah. any idea of what program i would use to do this? i'm using arch + sway.
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>>107025300
>can't save the changes because i'm not root
This is probably a regression. I never needed root to do this on either Xfce or Cinnamon back when I used these 4 years ago.
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>>107022035
Windows will continue to dominate because people use what they're familiar with and don't think much about it unless Windows gets much worse and they're forced to change. People still go out of their way to use Chrome after Manifest V3.
>>107024357
Well obviously you'd use Hyprland or maybe Sway if that's still a thing, but if you want to keep the "Mint" experience there's Fancy Tiles if that fits.
https://github.com/BasGeertsema/fancytiles
>>107024998
I haven't had any issues. The few problems I had were mostly related to Hyprland and how aggressive it is in relation to Wine. All I had to do was graphics=wayland, vd=off, win11, renderer=vulkan in Wine settings which I see more of setting up than an issue. Otherwise it's perfect and much better than Shit11.
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>>107025314
>People still go out of their way to use Chrome after Manifest V3.
Most people don't use ad blockers or even extensions.
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>>107024496
so what, if anything, is the downside to swapping to wayland? I'm averse because everything works fine already, unless it really is a bugless drop-in replacement by this point
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>>107025391
Decide for yourself:
https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Known_Significant_Issues
And compare it to X11 issues:
https://community.kde.org/Plasma/X11_Known_Significant_Issues

Then consider which of these two is more acceptable. It clearly does have issues, but X11 not only has more issues but it's also abandonware (and has been for a few years now).
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I like MX Linux
Its super good in my opinion
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>>107021831
Thinking about moving to lubuntu, what do you guys think?
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>>107025724
From what?
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>>107025738
Linux Mint 21.3
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After using kde for a week i can confirm its crap
Main issues are
>cant search in the filepicker
>thumbnails in dolphin and filepicker dont seem to cache
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>>107025749
You'll probably be fine then.
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>>107025797
>>thumbnails in dolphin and filepicker dont seem to cache
That's a distro problem or permissions issue (is ~/.cache/thumbnails owned by root or otherwise doesn't have read/write permission for some reason?)
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>>107025799
Thoughts on Kubuntu or Xubuntu? I know that Xubuntu had a website hack and while that doesn't mean their OS is insecure or isn't compromised the fact that Xubuntu hasn't fixed their download button is somewhat concerning to me.
I'm basically looking for a lightweight Ubuntu distro for gaymen.
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>>107025892
>Kubuntu
KDE sucks ass on Kubuntu (speaking from experience). If you want KDE use Fedora or anything based on Fedora.
>the fact that Xubuntu hasn't fixed their download button is somewhat concerning to me.
The distro is exclusively pulling packages and updates from Ubuntu, afaik. There's nothing to worry about if you just torrent the iso.
>lightweight Ubuntu distro for gaymen
Any reason why it needs to be Ubuntu-based? Ubuntu and Debian aren't really known for being good for gaming since their packages are too outdated.
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>>107021831
I fucking hate ubuntu.
does anyone know how to run multiple chromium profiles with this snap bullshit? after using chrome from other repos for many years, I updated my server... and apt replaced chromium and firefox with the snap versions.
using the --user-data-dir flag gives me
>Failed to create a ProcessSingleton for your profile directory. This means that running multiple instances would start multiple browser processes rather than opening a new window in the existing process. Aborting now to avoid profile corruption.
alternatively, what's a sane
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>>107026053
>what's a sane
... and safe way to install firefox and chromium debs?
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>>107026052
>Ubuntu and Debian aren't really known for being good for gaming since their packages are too outdated.
I've heard the opposite and most gaming stuff for Linux always mentions Ubuntu, I'm not against trying Fedora but I'm not gonna jump into a new distro I know far less about than Ubuntu right now, hope you understand.
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>>107025818
Nope ~/.cache/thumbnails is working properly and has stuff in the folder but dolphin is still not caching them because they're not being instantly loaded
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>>107026052
>Ubuntu and Debian aren't really known for being good for gaming since their packages are too outdated.
It really just depends on what game you're trying to play. I have outdated packages and gaming works fine for me but i play older stuff and not fotm
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>>107026053
>>107026062
sudo apt install curl

sudo curl -fsSLo /usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg

sudo curl -fsSLo /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.sources https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.sources

sudo apt update

sudo apt install brave-browser
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>>107025892
Xubuntu is okay, but far from the best Xfce distro around. When I tried it a few days ago there was double indicator spaces with ayatana plus the normal xfce systray, and the whole thing seemed kind of tacked together.

I much prefer MX Linux for Xfce. Linux Mint Xfce is okay too, I guess, but a bit outdated by now. Or just go Debian Stable Xfce.
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>on linux mint
>update
>turn computer off
>next day
>turn computer on
>black screen and doesn't boot
>"huh"
>manage to boot into safe mode
>type "sudo mount -o rw,remount /"
>"That drive doesn't exist."
>"Huh...."
>type "grub-install /dev/sda"
>installs
wtf is going on? I'm afraid to reboot this now but at least I rescued my data, gonna flash a ventoy iso as well just incase and try that way as well. If not I'll just upgrade I guess.
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>>107026148
>brave
thanks for the suggestion, but no, thanks
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>>107025429
>X server
>If the X server crashes, all apps are killed
wtf they fixed this in wayland? that's sick. I hate having to reset my browser and all after a crash
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>>107021831
Making the transition (huehuehue) from Windows. For the directories and files I currently have on NTFS should I copy to another file system? I have a few spare drives for this.
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>>107021853
Most probably when windows becomes a linux distro, literally.
They have consistently refused to release any of their software with linux support, the only shit they released is .net core and sql server and 100% because they're offering linux distros on azure, so they needed to release it or else they lose the little marketshare they could have in the server space.
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>>107026202
Uh, yeah if you want them...
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>>107026223
Well I know that NTFS can be read and written, but what about file permissions?
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>>107026238
No, No, No, back up. Are we talking about your HDD or are we talking about an external? When you uninstall windows you will lose ALL your data unless you back it up.
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>>107026238
I wouldn't worry about if your data is NTFS or FAT or w/e, linux can read both
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>>107026260
I know that. I'm talking about making a COPY of what I have. The data on the existing drives (already backed up elsewhere) will be left in place. The drives will be removed and placed in antistatic bags in my safe. If I copy what I have, what file system would be best for drives that will be used in the Linux build.
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>>107026103
>most gaming stuff for Linux always mentions Ubuntu
1) Many Linux native games (which is a minority of games) were historically targeting whatever the current Ubuntu LTS is as a platform. But if you're not running that specific version of Ubuntu you're sometimes screwed due to mismatched dependencies. Which means you'll have to just use Proton, which is generally better supported on Arch and Fedora because of newer libraries.
2) Steam Linux Runtime is based on Debian (which is comparable to Ubuntu). So Linux native games on Steam (if built and distributed correctly) are just built for Debian and advertised as "works on Linux" or "works on Ubuntu XY". When you launch these games they're launched inside a Debian container which provides all the necessary dependencies, no matter which distro you use.
Unless you're playing a specific subset of games, you're probably not going to run "truly native" games where your distro matters. So the only difference when it comes to compatibility and performance is how new your drivers and graphics libraries are. Which is why "outdated" distros (ie Debian, Ubuntu LTS, Mint) are overall less suitable for gaming.
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>>107026238
You can do file permissions on NTFS with NTFS3, but using NTFS on Linux is a very bad idea generally until a new driver is created that actually works reliably and has fsck support.
I don't know if fuseblk gives a shit about the permissions. I don't think it does.
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>>107026052
>KDE sucks ass on Kubuntu (speaking from experience). If you want KDE use Fedora or anything based on Fedora.
Slackware also used to be good at packaging KDE but they haven't cut a release in nine years.
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>>107026303
I had tinkered in the past with Linux. Whatever I had copied from an NTFS drive to FAT(?) created new execute permissions on just about every directory in it.
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>>107026296
>But if you're not running that specific version of Ubuntu you're sometimes screwed due to mismatched dependencies.
I actually had that problem with Grim Fandango on GoG and what's even weirder is that I managed to fix it by just going to the runtime of the linux version and running it and finding that for some reason, that works. The progress bar was fucked but everything else worked fine and as intended.
>Arch
I'm far too new (and far too busy currently) to even think about touching Arch right now.
>Which is why "outdated" distros (ie Debian, Ubuntu LTS, Mint) are overall less suitable for gaming.
Then Why Fedora over Debian then?
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>>107026296
>So the only difference when it comes to compatibility and performance is how new your drivers and graphics libraries are. Which is why "outdated" distros (ie Debian, Ubuntu LTS, Mint) are overall less suitable for gaming.
Mint and Ubuntu LTS get kernel, and mesa updates every 6 months. Maybe driver updates too? idk I don't use Novideo. Debian backports also updates the kernel and mesa frequently. Besides, that problem is easily bypassed by flatpak apps, who all use the newest mesa libraries as dependencies by default and don't care about what version your system library is.
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>>107026397
flatpaks are pretty heavy though and can sometimes burden your system unnecessarily to just run a game.
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>>107026416
>flatpaks are pretty heavy though and can sometimes burden your system unnecessarily to just run a game.
The overhead is minimal and a good tradeoff for otherwise suffering dependency hell. Disk space is also cheap.
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what should I actually be using for nightlight on swaywm? gammastep or redshift?
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>>107026202
>should I copy to another file system
Absolutely, backup, format and move everything back
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>>107026457
Sure, unless you are running a game with requirements that are a little higher than what you have, its probably very rare, but it might edge you out from having a smooth playing experience.
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>>107026481
How many times has this actually happened to you and with what games?
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>>107026499
Currently never, and like I said in the previous point, its probably very rare. Yes I know I'm being pedantic, flatpaks are great, but the problem is (or at least the problem that is devleoping) is people being being lazy and flatpaking everything which can potentially murder your efficiency.
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>>107023066
Looks like an ordinary retard farming views. None of the shit he says has ever happened to anyone.
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Is it possible to flash multiple Iso's to ventoy?
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>>107026615
never mind, dumb question...
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>>107026615
You don't flash isos to ventoy. It has a partition where you put isos.
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>>107026615
if you learned from it its not a dumb question
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>>107026528
>which can potentially murder your efficiency.
How and when? If libseccomp leads to efficiency issues, file a bug.
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>>107026637
Gotcha
>>107026645
It's dumb because I asked before I looked, but thanks for being nice at least.

Is there a way to run a .sh in superuser via clicking rather than having to do the pathing in terminal?
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am i doing this right? claude is saying i should set up these settings in .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<!-- Enable subpixel rendering -->
<match target="font">
<edit name="rgba" mode="assign">
<const>rgb</const>
</edit>
</match>

<!-- Enable hinting -->
<match target="font">
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>

<!-- Hinting style: slight is usually best -->
<match target="font">
<edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign">
<const>hintslight</const>
</edit>
</match>

<!-- Enable antialiasing -->
<match target="font">
<edit name="antialias" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>

<!-- LCD filter for subpixel rendering -->
<match target="font">
<edit name="lcdfilter" mode="assign">
<const>lcddefault</const>
</edit>
</match>
</fontconfig>


and then to do fc-cache -fv and it should give me font quality similar to winshit.
it still seems kinda off to me.

i also added this line to sway config

exec_always export FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="truetype:interpreter-version=40"


is this all wrong? claude gave a similar answer to what chatgpt already have.
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Hello, bros.
I'm a Linux noob trying lots of distros and learning my way around. After lots of testing I've chosen Fedora for my work laptop. My questions are:
Is there any advantage I'd get by using the atomic editions or should I just go for the regular ones?
Also, in your experience, which DE is better with Fedora, Gnome or KDE?
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>>107026727
>Is there a way to run a .sh in superuser via clicking rather than having to do the pathing in terminal?
figured it now, now to figure out how you add isos to ventoy
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>>107026785
1) The advantage is you have less chance of fucking it up. The disadvantage is that it is significantly less convenient to mess with it which makes for a pretty crippled way of using the system as a power user.
2) Opinion matter. I would never use Gnome but I'm sure someone likes it.
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>>107026785
>gnome
I can't talk about the efficiency but I hate it, its great if you are coming from Apple devices though.
>KDE
A lot of people complain about it but I have nothing but fond memories of it, but I haven't used it in like... 10 years though. You might want to check out KDE Plasma though, a lot of people seem to like that.
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>>107026303
ntfs-3g (fuse) does full Windows permission mapping and ntfs3 only works by kludging mount arguments
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>>107026803
So I get it's useful only if you're a basic bitch user, right? That might be my use case, since I only use my laptop for browsing and light office stuff.
>>107026807
I too have seen the "hate" towards KDE but in my experience it seems to work well enough. I guess I'll stick to it.

Thanks for the answers!
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Power? Never heard of that, what is it?
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>>107026960
What the best Macs ran on
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>>107026391
>Then Why Fedora over Debian then?
Fedora updates every 6 months and several Fedora-based distros like Bazzite and Nobara push mesa updates almost instantly.
>I'm far too new (and far too busy currently) to even think about touching Arch right now.
There are "easy to use" Arch distros like CachyOS and Manjaro.

>>107026785
>which DE is better with Fedora, Gnome or KDE?
KDE is better than GNOME when it comes to overall features. I find GNOME unusable without adding a bunch of extensions to it. But many users prefer GNOME over other DEs. It's simple, familiar to people who primarily use mobile devices rather than Windows, and it has nice touchpad gestures for laptops. Meanwhile KDE provides a more "traditional UI" and a better and more feature rich software suite (in my opinion).
>any advantage I'd get by using the atomic editions
Atomic editions are less likely to have issues in the long run since the update system is made to be stable. So they're really, really difficult to break.
Doing any system modifications yourself is not done directly but rather through a couple of provided tools which make it easy to keep track of your modifications and revert them (but this likely won't matter to you).
Another benefit would be the fact that you can easily switch from Kinoite to Silverblue without reinstalling the OS, by just running "sudo rpm-ostree rebase". So you can try out if you prefer KDE or GNOME without losing data or anything.

>>107026893
>So I get it's useful only if you're a basic bitch user, right?
Not really. It's also useful for people who like to tinker because tinkering is less dangerous. It's just that oldschool people dislike having to go through a separate command to apply system-level modifications instead of just directly editing config files and such. It's kind of like having a proper system management tool vs just editing raw system files.
>"hate" towards KDE
This mainly comes from the pre-2020 era when KDE was buggy and unstable.
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>>107026759
don't bother, I tried to do the same as you are doing right now but these settings are not enough to make the fonts look good.

Those options are now baked into most distros, at least it was with KDE (CachyOS) directly in the options so you are losing your time, and as I said it is not enough, there must be some other tweaks but I don't think there are any configs available for it.

Anyway godspeed and it you find anything please post your results because I can't use linux because of the terrible font rendering, it gives me headaches.
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>>107026980
It's called M5
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>>107026988
Thanks a lot for the info.
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>>107027012
well this is depressing then. i'm sure some anon knows more about this. if the options are there in some distros then logically they could exist for all distros (i.e. theft).
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>>107026988
>There are "easy to use" Arch distros like CachyOS and Manjaro.
Maybe for you but not for me.
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>>107027105
I don't know man, I found Manjaro a lot easier to use than Ubuntu and Mint a few years ago. I never even opened the terminal on it compared to Ubuntu and Mint where I'd need it every now and then.
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>>107026759
Try this
https://blog.aktsbot.in/no-more-blurry-fonts.html
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>>107027143
Maybe I'll try it then, I don't know.
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>>107027186
thanks anon. not sure if it helped or if I'm missing something. should it affect how the browser renders? i'm on firefox and idk if it just automatically inherits this stuff somehow or not.
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>>107026104
Then you either have the setting to not cache large files turned on, or you're using a network share (you can turn on caching for that but it's off by default), or there's something wrong with your distro.
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>>107027317
It should affect everything and make fonts a bit thicker, especially on dark backgrounds. You have to log out and back in
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I've been toying around with Mint in a VM for about two weeks now, and I'm just about ready to install it on bare metal. Before I do that, I have a couple of questions
1. I'm a gaymer like most people, and I get most of my vidya from Steam. Will this be a problem in Mint? For context, I have an NVIDIA 3060 ti and zero experience with tinkering with graphic settings
2. I got a small amount of personal files (~40 GB worth) that i want to transfer to Mint. What's the best way to do that? My currently installed OS is windows 11 so i'm guessing I can't just partition them into a shared folder like that one anon was talking about a few threads back. Should I just store them with the rest of the system when I back it up, or get a separate flash-drive for them?
3. This is probably going to sound like a really stupid question, but would the changes I make in the VM affect the ISO image itself? I'm just wondering if I'm going to have to customize the OS all over again.
4. What's the best DE to use on Mint? I've only used Cinnamon so far since it's the default. Would Xfce or Mate be downgrade or upgrade by comparison? I'm not really worried about resource usage if that effects anything since I've got a pretty decent computer.
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>>107025298
I feel so seen!
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>>107027447
Hi, I'm currently on Mint but soon I won't be.
>1. I'm a gaymer like most people, and I get most of my vidya from Steam. Will this be a problem in Mint? For context, I have an NVIDIA 3060 ti and zero experience with tinkering with graphic settings
Nope, you can run Proton or if you want to run the Windows version, you can do so through wine pretty well. There are also native linux versions as well. As for the graphics settings you shouldn't need to touch them, most Linux Oses these days will detect what you have and install the appropriate drivers and if it doesn't, NVIDIA does now support linux and release drivers to download if you need too (you shouldn't, but it's good to know just in case).
>2. I got a small amount of personal files (~40 GB worth) that i want to transfer to Mint. What's the best way to do that? My currently installed OS is windows 11 so i'm guessing I can't just partition them into a shared folder like that one anon was talking about a few threads back. Should I just store them with the rest of the system when I back it up, or get a separate flash-drive for them?
You could put them on the cloud but if that's a concern for privacy, yeah just buy a usb or external drive and prot them over before you install Mint. When Mint installs it will wipe everything on it the drive so there is now "port information over to Linux" button, and if there ever is one you shouldn't trust it anyway.
>3. This is probably going to sound like a really stupid question, but would the changes I make in the VM affect the ISO image itself? I'm just wondering if I'm going to have to customize the OS all over again.
No, you can copy and reuse ISOs. Think of the ISO as a virtual disc in a disc drive. When video games came on discs you never saved your game to the disc but to the computer. Exact same thing with ISOs, its read to start the boot sequence and start the system but after that it is only ever read for information on it.
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Help! I have a percentege in my desktop users!
>>107025231
Kek.
I love you bro, no homo! You got brains. Don't let the butthurt retards distract you.
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>>107027447
>1. I'm a gaymer
I know plenty of people who had issues with gaming on Mint due to how far behind it is with updates. If you're a gaymer you should go for Bazzite or Nobara. Not only are they more set up for gaming, but they also have a better choice of desktop environments (mainly KDE, which blows Cinnamon out of the water)
>2. I got a small amount of personal files
If you don't have external storage, then make a partition in one of your internal drives and just move those files there. Then make sure it's not marked for deletion when you start installing Linux. But if you want to be safe it's better to just buy a USB drive, a 64 GB one is maybe $5-$7.
>would the changes I make in the VM affect the ISO image itself?
No, it's read only. If you want to preserve your VM system you can use something like clonezilla to get a snapshot of your VM disk and flash it back onto your internal storage, but I have no idea if it will load your drivers correctly in that case. So it's best to just do it all over again.
>4. What's the best DE to use on Mint?
Cinnamon is better than Xfce and MATE.
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>>107027447
>4. What's the best DE to use on Mint? I've only used Cinnamon so far since it's the default. Would Xfce or Mate be downgrade or upgrade by comparison? I'm not really worried about resource usage if that effects anything since I've got a pretty decent computer.
If you aren't worried about efficiency, Cinnamon is the winner, mon. Especially if you want to rice the DE or at least customize it to make it look "pretty". Before you install to bare metal, if you are curious, you should download the Mate and Xfce versions and give them a quick messing around with. DEs generally come down to taste and while there are more efficient and lightweight DEs, those people are either on old hardware or are trying to make their computer as efficient as possible to host local AI or to do a very specific purpose.
>tl;dr: DEs come down to taste and what you are used too, don't be afraid to try new ones, there isn't much of a reason to use one outside of "efficiency" or "looks pretty" so its highly subjective if you don't have a specific use case in mind.
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>>107027447
>3. This is probably going to sound like a really stupid question, but would the changes I make in the VM affect the ISO image itself? I'm just wondering if I'm going to have to customize the OS all over again.
You can just convert the VM's disk to a raw image format and write that to your drive, and expand the partition(s) later with a live tool like gparted. Linux isn't locked to a motherboard like Windows is, and will dynamically pick up all of your hardware at boot time. The one thing you lose over a fresh install with this is it won't automatically install Nvidia drivers for you.
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>>107027447
Pretty much everything is just werks level on proton nowadays, and if you do have issues proton db is pretty well managed, far better than the old wine results site, and will have reports for everything but obscure indie shit, which tends to be primitive enough to fall deep into the former category. The main blocking point for linux gaming today is devs not enabling anti-cheat in new and popular multiplayer shooters.

Also, if you're happy with your configuration you can probably just copy your home folder onto your new install to retain it. Depending on exactly what you changed there may be odds and ends you'll have to track down outside it. When I started I tended to prefer starting with a clean home folder on reinstall save some basic files because I would end up having broken shit in it from trying stuff though. Still do, depending.

Personally I never looked back after switching from a DE to a standalone WM early on but that's a different discussion
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>>107027745
>Personally I never looked back after switching from a DE to a standalone WM early on but that's a different discussion
nta but explain the difference, I thought all DEs have WMs and you could never have a WM alone.
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>>107027803
>I thought all DEs have WMs
They do.
>and you could never have a WM alone.
Quite the opposite, X Windows was WM only for like 20 years. The difference is on a DE you have some other tool that orchestrates the whole session of which the WM (or Wayland compositor) is a part, whereas with a standalone WM it's typically invoked directly and has to spawn whatever other helper tools you need. The reason people use custom WMs is that they typically want LESS stuff running than a full DE. I switched from GNOME to Hyprland and even with a stupidly riced out Quickshell config I'm using less CPU and RAM and I'm not suffering from random input lag pileups like I did with GNOME's Wayland session.
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>>107026960
IBM
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>>107025197
I believe the distinction is "tinkering" for productive purposes and tinkering for purely superficial reasons similar to how men playing dress-up.
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>>107028269
So a man fitting a lawnmower engine into an old Honda because that's his way of having fun would be playing dress up and is also a confirmed tranny?
Having fun is a superficial reason, not at all productive.
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redpill me on immutable distros
do they serve any purpose beyond being good on retard boxes?
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So since moving to Linux I've noticed a problem with my mouse if I right click to open the context menu and then quickly drag the mouse pointer over one of the context menu options then it'll do a double click and select that option.

I never had this problem on Windows and I've tried 3 different mice that all have the same problem. It happens in chromium based browsers, Firefox and Dolphin so it's not isolated.

It only ever happens if I drag the mouse pointer quick enough over the context menu, if I don't immediately drag it over the option then it never double clicks. I has to be very fast. If I do it fast enough then it's always reproducible.

Any idea what could be causing this and what I could do to troubleshoot?
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>>107028407
Theoretically easier to debug because the system is more predictably set up
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>>107028407
The ones built around bootc (bootable Docker containers) are pretty cool. Distro maintainers start with a container image (right now usually Fedora or CentOS Stream), layer in a few RPMs or other unpackaged files, and then set up a build system so that it spits out prebaked container images. The goal is for any package manager failures or update problems to just result in a server side image build failure so whatever you can pull and reboot into you can trust. Updates happen in the background by default but it's just a systemd timer (cronjob) you can turn off as needed, and it never *forces* a reboot.

This is a giant pain in the ass if you spend a lot of time installing and uninstalling OS packages but if you can move your stuff into containers (e.g. podman, toolbox) or Flatpaks or just live in the browser all the time then it becomes a good way to make sure your desktop/laptop always works. I've been running immutable distros for about five years now.

BootC based immutable distros also make it easy to run custom images, which I'm doing now, because everything is just a container build so it's trivial to set up build/push jobs with GitHub Actions or whatever CI runner. For example I'm running a custom image in this screenshot. It's Hyprland, Quickshell, Emacs, and some other native tools added on top of Bluefin, which is a bootc based immutable version of Fedora Workstation with a few tweaks.
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>>107028621
There's nothing stopping you from using a normal distro and installing everything in podman, toolbox. Continuous background updates are pretty much the only unique feature, but you could also just use Gentoo where the whole distro is a big git repo, or I guess have your own package mirror that keeps all the versions for something like Fedora.
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>>107028651
>Continuous background updates are pretty much the only unique feature, but you could also just use Gentoo where the whole distro is a big git repo
It's like an evolved form of a Gentoo binhost where you can customize the shit out of your distro without having to do all the compilation and package management clientside.
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>>107028557
Okay after googling I managed to find out why it happens. Apparently on KDE/Qt (Linux?) releasing right-click causes it to do a left-click, so because I managed to move the mouse pointer above the context menu before releasing right-click it caused a left-click. There has been an open bug report on Qt's bug tracker for years about this but they don't seem interested in solving it.

Is there any way to disable the left-click when releasing the right-click mouse button?
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>>107028671
>but they don't seem interested in solving it.
>
>Is there any way to disable the left-click when releasing the right-click mouse button?
Fix the bug.
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>>107027581
>>107027626
>>107027632
>>107027705
>>107027745
Thanks for the advice anons, have pic rel as thanks.
One question for the anon who recommended bazzite; does it handle other functions well enough (i.e. office-junk, browsing the internet, etc)? I use my computer for a lot of things, so if a distro is only good for games, it's probably isn't for me.
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>>107028785
Nobody stops you from using whatever software you want on it. It's just a normal distro.
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>>107028832
all right, thanks
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>>107028772
So I found that you can fix it in Firefox by making the context menu appear on mouseup rather than mousedown (the same way left-click works), this is apparently how Windows handles it and why this problem doesn't exist there. I couldn't find a way to do this in Brave/chromium or in Dolphin though.

I don't care about whether the context menu appears on mousedown or mouseup but I do care about the fact that releasing right-click causes it to do an unnecessary double click. I seriously don't get how this isn't driving people insane, are people waiting half a second before moving down the mouse after right-clicking? Am I the only one moving the mouse down immediately?
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Does any common program use F12 as a shortcut for something by default?
Guake is mapped to it by default, I really like it and want to emulate the behaviour with the special workspace on hyprland but I'm worried about randomly fucking up some other software that uses that key. I don't really want to map it Super + F12 cause I wanna be able to bring it up with one hand. On windows I never used that key so I don't really know and I spent too little time with guake to know from using it.
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>>107028840
Check this out, you can just specify "give me an image that boots into a regular desktop and not Steam" when downloading Bazzite.
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>>107028865
I have literally never experienced this problem in Firefox on Wayland.
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>>107028899
>Bazzite marries Cloud technology,
Stopped reading there.
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>>107028912
It just means they build it from containers with a CI/CD pipeline. There's no forced cloud account integration like W11.

see >>107028621
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>>107028883
I mean can't you just use it until you have a problem and change it. I usually get around keybind conflicts I have by making the windows key a modifier to what I already have set if I have conflicts. I can't think of anything that uses it but using the windows key as a modifier would resolve any conflicts you might run into.
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For some reason duckstation isn't working for me anymore/crashing.
I tried updating but Discover doesn't find anything, for few months now, is it dead?
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>>107028927
It's a notebook so I only have one super key and it's on the left, meaning I can't use super + F12 with one hand. I probably will end up finding a conflict, if any, by just using it but I'm asking anyway. What if someone saves me some minor effort?
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>>107028936
If you're using Arch, the dev added something to it that makes it not work on Arch. If not, well who knows, Maybe he added something that makes it not work on something else too.
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>>107028954
that's how mine is too. I have an fn lock and have mine set to f11 which is prtscrn
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>>107028992
>the dev added something to it that makes it not work on Arch
What?
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>>107029003
It has a feature that breaks it on Arch specifically.
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>>107029003
>>107028936
>>107028992
>>107029016
just roll back a version
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>>107029003
He threw a giant tantrum about Linux package managers and changed the license.

https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/commit/30df16cc767297c544e1311a3de4d10da30fe00c
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>>107029034
>https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/commit/30df16cc767297c544e1311a3de4d10da30fe00c
lmfao there is no way
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>>107028910
So Firefox seems a bit weird, it's not always reproducible for some reason. I tried googling some random word and it only worked on half the links. Hold down right-click over the link, move the mouse pointer over "open link in new tab" and then let go of the right-click, it does a left-click when you let it go. On Brave it always does this, on Firefox it does it sometimes. Like the first 4 links it didn't work but then it worked on the next 4 links.
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>>107029034
But isn't it open source? What's stopping people from deleting those 8 lines and running it on arch anyway?
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>>107029051
>But isn't it open source?
Not really. It's CC No Derivatives so forks are technically illegal.
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>>107029042
>>107029034
>>107029051
i'd expect someone to remove those lines and add it to the aur again. can't you add diffs during compile time in arch pkgbuilds?
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>>107029058
>licence shit
Alright, it might be illegal, but you could still do it without issues.
It's an emulator, let's not pretend people only use it with legally acquired games.
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>>107029034
>and changed the license.
Apparently from GPL 3, which means a) anyone can fork up to the version before he changed it and ignore his shit, and b) he's in violation of the GPL if he's taken ANY contributions while it was GPL-licensed and the contributors did not sign away copyright to him.
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>>107029114
>b) he's in violation of the GPL if he's taken ANY contributions while it was GPL-licensed and the contributors did not sign away copyright to him.
I didn't see a CLA so yeah this is still GPL3 software and he fucked up.
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My AMD GPU has died, and I am debating replacing it with an Nvidia or another AMD GPU.
How's current Linux support for Nvidia graphics drivers?
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>>107029188
Still not as good as AMD support, but running AI will generally be a lot easier on Nvidia.
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>>107029188
There are Linux Drivers on NVIDIA's website but you should double check their drivers, the generics before purchasing.
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>>107029192
>>107029209
Alright thanks guys.
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Here's a clip of what actually happens. If I move the cursor above the context menu (open link in new tab) before I lift my finger off the right-click mouse button then it'll "double click" and do a left-click on it. In the last part of the clip I moved the cursor after I lifted my finger from the right-click mouse button and therefore it's not "double clicking"
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>>107028918
The marketing for Bazzite has never been great apart from "gaming distro".

They really ought to do something about that when they have people thinking you can't get rid of Steam and it has cloud bullshit like Windows (not true).
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>>107029320
If I understand correctly, that's a feature. You can right click and select an option without releasing the right click and then when you do release it then it will click on it. It avoids the need to left click on something.

It can be a weird interaction sometimes and trigger when it's not supposed to.
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If I need to replace an AMD GPU with a 1080ti for steam, do I need to uninstall steam completely or just replace vulkan-radeon and install nvidia-utils etc?
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what does the replace partition option in the linux installer do? wipe everything aside from /home?
im installing meme distros on my laptop cause i dont really use it for anything else
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>>107029427
Literally just install the NVIDIA driver and the system will probably use it. You can clean up the AMD packages you don't need if you want but it's not a requirement.
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>>107029451
Depends on the installer but if interpreted literally then it will delete the partition you're replacing and re-create it and then install into that.
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>>107029413
Yes, but the problem is that I will often move my cursor above the context menu before my finger even comes off the right click. We're talking about milliseconds here, it's way too sensitive and needs some delay in my opinion because it's driving me insane.

Do you know of a way to solve my problem? Firefox allows me to make the context menu appear on mouseup rather than mousedown but I need a solution for Brave and Dolphin where it's particularly annoying. Ideally an option to disable the feature of clicking on mouseup but just disabling right clicking on a context menu to do a left click would work too.
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>>107028671
Yep, it's a Qt ""feature"". Mouse handling on Qt is generally weird. Another Qt-ism is that the scroll wheel will accidentally change values in dropdown menus.
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>>107028671
>>107029743
Firefox and Chrome use GTK, not Qt.
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>>107029743
>>107029808
I booted up my laptop running Mint Cinnamon and it had the exact same problem with firefox, brave and the file manager. So maybe not a qt thing but a Linux problem?
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$ rm -rf folder/ thing

>Why is this taking so long
>mfw
I SHOULD HAVE TESTED MY BACKUPS
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>>107029901
Time to rsync from your last hourly btrfs snapshot, right anon?
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>>107029970
Time to rsync from my second backup hard drive where for space reasons I didn't keep most of the folder I just deleted.
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>someone was complaining about this issue 13 years ago
It's honestly baffling how this isn't affecting and annoying the vast majority of Linux users. Like do people seriously right click and then not move the mouse until after they've let go of the right mouse button? I reflexively move the mouse to the right (because that's where the cursor needs to be to interact with the context menu) before I even let go of the right mouse button.

I guess I have to consciously make sure I wait a few milliseconds so my finger can release the right mouse button before I move the mouse from now on.
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>>107029994
That's.... how it's always behaved, even on Windows IIRC.
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>>107030023
Context menu appears on mouseup, not mousedown. So you must release the right click before the context menu shows up, therefore it's never a problem on Windows.
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>>107030030
>Context menu appears on mouseup, not mousedown.
That depends on the app. And mousedown allows you to hold the button until you know what you want to pick.

Just get used to it.
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>>107030087
>Just get used to it.
Crazy that you can't move your mouse until after you've let go of the right click mouse button on Linux. How does anyone not reflexively move the mouse? That seems like the normal intuitive movement rather than holding the mouse still until your finger has left the right click, no?
>you to hold the button until you know what you want to pick.
I'm fine with the mechanic, but there should be a delay so you can't just accidentally click by moving the mouse before your finger has left the button.

Firefox has an option to disable this functionality so it's possible to do it.
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>>107030122
>so you can't just accidentally click by moving the mouse before your finger has left the button.
If there is a click, then there is a mouseup, so you DID lift the finger.
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Whats the best window managers out there? Want to try seeing if i prefer it over a typical desktop environment
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>>107030265
Are you in it for functionality / efficiency ? Try i3wm. Do you like ricing ? Try hyprland. Don't like tiling? I guess kde
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>>107030283
xfce or mate
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>>107030122
>How does anyone not reflexively move the mouse?
I wasn't even aware of this until this conversation. It's not a real problem.
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>>107030301
Isn't kde pretty good nowadays ?
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>>107030147
Yes? It's the mouseup from right clicking to bring up the context menu in the first place, see my clip here >>107029320
. Delay was the wrong word, there should be a few milliseconds of grace period where if the mouseup happens then it doesn't register the click
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>>107030321
That would be inconsistent with how left click works on window menu bars.
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>>107030311
>better file managers
>better bloat
>better settings
>less bloated
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>>107026202
it's better to move away from ntfs for permanent usage. linux supports ntfs well enough for one-off tasks, such as data recovery/backups, imaging, etc. things you'll use it once or twice before putting it back in a windows machine.
main reason is that linux doesn't have a chkdsk equivalent, if for any reason the ntfs volume becomes uncleanly dismounted (crash, power cut, physical removal while mounted if external, etc), then you will need to run chkdsk in windows (incl. a VM) to mount it read-write again safely. it's also just not as fast as using native filesystems, and lacks support for linux file attributes
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>>107030308
This is the craziest part, I don't understand how people aren't going crazy with the accidental click. I don't see how people don't move the mouse until after their finger has left the right mouse button. Are only boomers using linux where they wait a few milliseconds after right clicking before moving the mouse all the time?

Also I've seen like 10 posts complaining about it online so some people are having an issue with this.
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>>107026323
it's normal an expected for directories to have the execute bit set in linux. try removing execute from a folder, you won't be able to open it anymore
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>>107026797
run the ventoy program, it will ask for a drive to use, select your drive and hit install. it'll warn you but this will erase the drive.
once it's done, there will be two partitions on the drive, a small one with ventoy in it (don't touch it), and a large one where you put your iso's. you just copy the iso's as-is into that partition. that's all. now you can boot to that drive and pick the iso you want to boot
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>>107030329
If you say so, I just want an option to disable it but it doesn't seem like it'll happen except for Firefox.
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>>107030378
>>107026797
also, you don't need to install ventoy each time you add an iso, you can just drag over new ones at any time. don't even need the ventoy program installed anymore.
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>>107030349
>if for any reason the ntfs volume becomes uncleanly dismounted (crash, power cut, physical removal while mounted if external, etc), then you will need to run chkdsk in windows
False. ntfs-3g supports journal replay. You only need chkdsk for actual filesystem errors. Which should be practically never unless there's something wrong with your hardware.
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>>107030353
I don't misclick despite moving the mouse, dunno what to tell you.
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>>107028912
That's just for building the OS. Using "the cloud" (even self hosted) to build software has effectively been a standard for a decade now and makes development and maintenance infinitely easier and higher quality. Any project that is built using Docker, Podman or Distrobox would, by their definition, be using the cloud.

>>107029390
Well it's specifically a gaming distro. They have Aurora and Bluefin as the "normal" distros. The main difference is just a couple of pre-installed applications (which can be installed with ujust) and the version of mesa where Bazzite uses the latest one.
Anyone who does play video games would be better off on Bazzite as a day-to-day OS. But anyone who doesn't can just install Aurora or Bluefin.
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>>107030283
Isnt sway the successor of i3wm? What do you think of that one?
i guess im in it more for efficiency and stability. I was considering awesome, qtiles or sway since they are available options in the arch installer
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>>107030494
>makes development and maintenance infinitely easier and higher quality.
lol is that why everything fucking sucks now?
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>>107030556
No, everything sucks because shareholders want cheap labor and useless features. Controlled and reproducible dev environments are as important as version control. Imagine how much software would suck without both.
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>>107030494
containers are not "the cloud", that's damn bullshit
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>>107030479
You don't move the mouse quick enough then, I don't always either but enough times for it to be very annoying.
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>>107030494
>Any project that is built using Docker, Podman or Distrobox would, by their definition, be using the cloud.
what the fuck am i reading
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>>107030591
>>107030620
Docker is considered a tool that enables "cloud computing". It's not just by them but by the dev community at large. Still, advertising their distros as such is terrible marketing since it means absolutely nothing to the end user aside from privacy respecting ones being "anti-cloud". It seems like even their gaming distro is being advertised to developers and system administrators rather than average people.
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>>107030507
Sway is the most stable, least ricey of those options. And yes it's basically just i3wm reimplemented as a Wayland compositor.
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>>107030652
>Docker is considered a tool that enables "cloud computing".
that doesn't mean anything it does is "cloud"
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>>107030556
No it's the only reason anything ever ships at all anymore with how jeeted up most companies are.
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>>107030659
Any reason why sway would be better/worse than awesome or qtile? Reading online it seems awesome and qtile uses slightly less resources than sway, not sure how much that matters
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Sorry, but I already updated this year. Next updates will be in 2027 when Trixie becomes Forky.
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>>107030726
Awesome is a core WM configured with a giant pile of Lua spaghetti that completely changes syntax every few years. Sway uses more resources than Awesome PID for PID because Sway also includes the functionality of the display server and compositor, so you'd need to track the Awesome binary, the X binary, and picom or whatever. Sway hasn't changed config formats once.
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>>107027447
>1. I'm a gaymer...
gaming on mint is ass. go with cachy os (including the cachy gaming meta package, it's an easy one line install)
maybe bazzite is good idk
you can be a chad and run arch omarchy with a cachos kernal and gaming package to get the best of both worlds (i like the omarchy desktop environment). again it's not too hard, just get grok or some ai to walk you through installation.
omarchy uses a hyperland tiling manager (how windows come up on the screen). it takes some getting used to but it is superior to the normal tiling manages (mint cinnamon, kde, windows, etc)
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>>107030888
>Omarchy mentioned
Attention: this poster is a retard. Disregard any and all advice from them.
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>>107030923\
>omarchy retarded
why?
i dont want to spend hours fucking around with configs when a tasteful setup is ready to go pre-installed

disregard >>107030923 he is just a /g/ contrarian
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>>107030994
You can't even spell kernel.
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>>107030994
Here's an analysis of how insecure Omarchy is
https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/a-word-on-omarchy/

TL;DR
>Poorly written bash scripts as main system feature
>Installing packages via piping curl and sh
>Insecure packaging methods, even for a security shit show like Arch
>15GB of disk space used for a tiling wm setup
>Dev puts in his own paid bloatware apps
Idk... It's your computer after all. But i wouldn't ever use or recommend this distro to anyone. There are better systems out there with better security practices.
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>>107030888
>gaming on mint is ass
It is, but clearly not ass enough. It's still the most popular distro on the Steam Hardware Survey right behind Arch.
>CachyOS
Not really a beginner distro.
>Omarchy
A complete, useless meme distro. If you want a hyprland config, just get one rather than installing a slop distro which will become abandonware in a couple of years.
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>>107030265
dwm
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>>107031039
>https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/a-word-on-omarchy/
this is the most petty, nitpicky critique of a distro I have ever read
>whaa the chromium browser has NO externsions!?
>whaa " the project even has its own merch that people can spend money on" !!!
>whaaa the 1.8G post-install update “took over an hour for me”
i know the writer of that article is jewish and I think at least 2/3 of these posters are jewish >>107030923 >>107031039 >>107031050
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>>107030859
And what about qtile? Yay or gay?
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yo how do I backups on fedora?
I've read that snapper + btrfs assistant is a good choice for OS backup, then vorta for user files etc. That about right?
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>>107031432
Depends what you want to backup. If you want everything to another drive and that drive is also BTRFS then you can just use btrfs send/receive to send a clone of your filesystem to the other drive. If you have snapshots then it can do it incrementally.
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>>107026759
>>107027099
on which distro are you trying this on? If it is recent then those options you showed are probably already in, what you(we) need are some unavailable fine tuning of the renderer. Not sure if the problem is that the renderer does not expose those or if it never was compiled with those in the first place.
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>>107030888
>but it is superior to the normal tiling manages
in what way
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Do we have a shell command to change UI scale of KDE? I'm using Sunshine for remote gaming but using the desktop on a tablet is frustrating without 150% scale.
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>"huh, using linux is so much easier nowadays as before"
>try to do anything but just browse the web
>"nvm lol"
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>>107031672
>remote gaming
But why?
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>>107031662
its just a faster and easier way to view windows and hyperland feels less bloated than something like kde
going back to normal way windows stack feels clunky in comparison
however using configs will frustrate beginners
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>>107031718
Autism. My measly ass declines to buy a handheld console just to play games when i have too much time to spare but away from my machine.
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Why can I use Lutris to install a game launcher, download a game from it and it just werks (including installing dependencies and even some anticheat botnet), but fucking Adobe Reader doesn't work? Is it specifically made to fuck with Linux (totally-not-)emulation? And no, I cannot use an alternative or an older version, blame the tax jews in my country.
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>>107031763
Just use a VM. The performance impact of virtual machines is 5% at most, outside of the obviously higher memory and storage consumption.
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>>107031136
Cry harder, chud.
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>>107031672
Maybe with qdbus
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I love OpenBSD so fucking much.
If only I knew how to use it.
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>>107029320
I actually had the same problem on mint, check your mouse drivers.
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I pulled a bunch of disks from a server which was probably in RAID. When I plug them in, there's nothing. Nothing in /dev/, nothing in dmesg, nothing in kernel logs, the disks don't even spin up. But if I put them back in the server, they spin up and doesn't report any errors. WTF is going on here? Server is some kind of NAS. I don't care about the data, I just want the disks.
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>>107031967
Might be a different power standard. Some external HDDs are like that and need an adapter or a compatible PSU
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>>107031967
sounds like you could be running into the 3.3v sata power enable signal issue.
basically, in older sata standards, the 3.3v line wasn't used for anything, but later revisions (from 2016) changed one of the 3.3v pins to be a disable signal, similar to what SAS has. if you have a power supply that predates this change, it may be putting 3.3v on that line, effectively disabling the drive
there's a number of ways to fix this, but the key is to prevent 3.3v from getting to the drive, be it a cut 3.3v cable, an adapter that doesn't have 3.3v connectivity, putting something over the 3.3v traces, etc.
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>>107031918
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, the leather club is two blocks down.
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i've a question
my company uses ubuntu core for some IOT devices.
Ideally we use the cheapest SBC out there for our use case, which is probably an orange pi r1 plus lts.
this board isn't supported by ubuntu core's kernel/gadget snaps, so we'd have to board-enable it.
Could i just hijack Armbian's image build script/system to make it produce my snaps instead?
I'm kind of amazed nobody's done this before, though i guess canonical hates community supported kernels.
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>>107031967
>>107032024
even just putting a bit of thin tape on the third power pin will do the job
if you put it back in a nas, you should probably undo any change you make, as it may be used for staggered spin-up
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>>107032068
Just cut the 3.3v wire, it's been removed from the SATA standard for years and only some old 2.5" HDDs used it.
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>>107032024
This could be it. Server SATA power cable only has 4 leads. Will try this.
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>btrfs
>delete file
>file isn't deleted because some random file from 8 months ago still references it
???????
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>>107032258
based btrfs reflinks deduplicating your data
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>>107024593
>>107024643
>>107025275
Ended up using FydeOS and it works. Thanks for the help.
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>>107031683
That's literally your average person tho, Linux is such the perfect normieOS its unreal, its just you cant go to best buy and buy linux computers so the normies dont even know it exists
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Just installed mint on my t480
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>>107032405
mint is a good match for dumpster dived hardware from 15 years ago
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>>107032431
If you read why Lubuntu is changing their design goals, that just shows the evolution and versatility of Linux these days, so much so that the OS that was designated for "old hardware" had come out ans shift design goals because of how well many OSes run on older hardware now.
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>>107029320
I have all sorts of clicking issues in Mint. My mouse is mechanically flawless but in Mint I might click something and it doesn't register. But sometimes it'll double click and in Librewolf I might accidentally grab an image. Same thing with back/forward buttons.
This could be due to a bug in imwheel.
I would not be using imwheel BUT IT SEEMS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ADJUST MOUSE WHEEL SENSITIVITY IN 2025 IF YOU ARE USING XORG.

Linux as a kernel is okay but everything surrounding it is amateur shit. Had more streamlined and better experience in 2008 with Xfce than now 17 years later.
I'm genuinely surprised about the regression.
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>>107032485
To add: mouse is one of these things what should just work out of the box. Even Xerox understood this in early 1980s but not these linux trannies.
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>>107032485
mint is a noob trap
install fedora or something like that instead and watch 90% of the weird hardware issues melt away
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I want to get a single sha-256 of a follder and it's contents, and compare it to another folder and it's contents.

The idea is that I want to check if both folders have exactly the same content.

In wondows I can simply use 7zip and right click->sha256 in a folder and done.

How do you do this in Linux?
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>>107032541
>In wondows I can simply use 7zip and right click->sha256 in a folder and done.
What's stopping you from doing this on Linux? Just zip both folders and right click -> properties -> checkums. Or if you're not on Plasma, then you can just run "sha256sum filename" in your terminal.
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>>107032512
You know this is how it works on Linux, macOS and many Windows apps right?
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>>107032559
>Or if you're not on Plasma, then you can
install Plasma
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>>107032559
It's not a single file, it's a folder. I'm right clicking the folder, properties, and there is no checksum value.

I'm using Linux mint.
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>>107032610
>It's not a single file, it's a folder
zip eet
if two resulting zips are the same then the contents are the same
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>>107032541
diff
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>>107032646
I did diff and it stucked thinking for a long time. This is not practical.

I wanted to simply check the hash in both folders and if they are the same, they have the same folder.

Is this seriously impossible to do in Linux mint by default?
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>>107032599
Not everyone wants to use the best desktop environment.

>>107032610
>I'm right clicking the folder
I thought you wanted to zip it first and then compare the two zip files. If not, just use "diff folder1/ folder2/"

>>107032664
>Is this seriously impossible to do in Linux mint by default?
It's also clearly impossible to do on any OS by default, since you need to install 7zip for this feature. 7zip exists for Linux. If you think it will be faster than diff then feel free to install it.
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>>107032682
Why are you passive aggressive?

>>107032664
>Sha256sum myfolder
>>Output:is a directory
I know, I know it is a directory. Just give me the hash, fuck.
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You can't do anything in Linux without a gorillion command lines, this OS is a fucking meme.
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>>107032701
>Why are you passive aggressive?
The fuck are you talking about? Stop being a snowflake.
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>>107032530
First of all I'm not a noob and second seems like you don't really understand. Retards like you always think that changing a distro is an answer. Seems like YOU are the fucking noob who cannot edit some config files.
Xorg does not have mouse wheel sensitivity setting, it's just a click. This will not change if I change distribution.
Bigger problem is that why, after 25 years no one hasn't done anything about this in the first place? I'm pretty sure I am not alone who is annoyed by the lack of mouse wheel sensitivity option outside of using imwheel.
Wayland does, and I used Hyprland for a while but it had its own issues and by default it was also using more memory which I don't like. If it takes more than Windows 11's baseline ~ 2.5 GB or so - it's shit.
Always liked Xorg and don't see why should I change
.
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>>107032701
Use rhash:
rhash --sha256 --simple -o hashes.sha256 -r YourShit/

Then to check:
rhash -c hashes.sha256


If you use relative paths when creating you can use the same file to check the other directory.
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>>107032664
Why can't you just do "7z h -scrcSHA256 /folder"?

I mean if you're using 7zip on Windows there's no reason you should avoid it like the plague on Linux..
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>>107030378
>>107030388
I figured it out yesterday and forgot to say that I did, now I'm trying to figure out why ventoy doesn't open when I reboot, I guess I can just change it in the BIOS but I thought ventoy took priority over the system OS when booting.
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>>107032885
Another fag here told me to not use 7zip because mint already has an extraction resource, but he failed to mention the extra tools 7zip gives you like hashes.
>>107032873
Do I have to download anything ? I would rather not download anything at all but it is crazy that you can't get the Sha256 of a folder with a simple command.
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>>107032954
it's up to how your bios is configured
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>>107032843
He just really likes Fedora and wants to shill it, its unhelpful and kinda ridged in his thinking but I admire and appreciate the passion.
The most annoying thing is that there are people who say "majority of the distributions Linux has are useless and no one uses them" but then doesn't take the much easier route of then saying what Linux distros aren't useless.
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>>107032664
>I did diff and it stucked thinking for a long time.
It's faster than sha256sum. Did you read the manual or did you just type diff folder1 folder2 and try to generate text deltas for movie files like a retard?
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>>107032885
I was just wondering what was the standard way of comparing folders and checking hashes on Linux.

Diff doesn't seem practical for big folders.
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>>107033061
There is no standard way of doing anything on Linux.
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>>107032731
What's wrong with using the command line?
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>>107033061
There's only three scenarios which come to mind where you'd have multiple folders with the "same" content which need comparing:

Scenario one: You're creating backups. In which case your backup tool (ie "Syncthing", "Borg", etc.) would handle de-duplication and synchronization for you. Alternatively you could just use a RAID setup if you just need redundancy.

Scenario two: You're manually "versioning" some kind of a workspace. This is something you should do with a single folder and "git" or "svn", then sync your repository across multiple devices if you need redundancy/backups. Alternatively you could use Btrfs snapshots or Timeshift if they're applicable for your use case.

Scenario three: You're fetching some 3rd party data which isn't versioned correctly and you want to know if there's any changes. If you just want to see if there's a change, just archive both folders and compare the resulting hash sum. If you want to see which files are different, you'll have to either use "diff" or do a recursive hash sum of all files.

>>107033083
There's no "standard" way of doing most things in any operating system.
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>>107028865
You keep saying "left click" but there is none triggered, what happens is that you press the right button, the menu opens, you highlight the desired entry, and release the button to activate it.
This saves you an unnecessary extra click, since there is no point in opening the contextual menu unless you intend to use one of its items, so releasing the button over the desired entry is unambiguous.
The problem is that there is no minimum wait and minimum travel between button press and button release. Adding these is all that's needed, the rest works perfectly fine.
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Been running into this problem a lot where games where videos just render like this. Is there any way to fix it or am I stuck with it?
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>>107033401
youre missing a winetricks package but I don't remember which
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>>107033240
nta bur for me when I right click I don't need to hold it and the menu stays open until I mouse in and mouse out of it.
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>>107033401
Missing codecs, is this on proton-ge?
>>107033439
Maybe quartz
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i'm jumping into nixos without testing it on a vm
how screwed am i?
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>>107033471
Whatever the default Proton that comes with Steam.
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dead os
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I've been doing this a long time and this is the first time I've run into this. Is it vendor specific? These are all WD drives from a packed Dell blade from 2015.

>>107032024
(Update) It was this

>>107032068
This was the fix. Although I had to tape all three first pins instead of just the third.
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>>107033526
Use experimental or import the latest ge
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>>107033818
>This was the fix. Although I had to tape all three first pins instead of just the third.
no harm in it, they were probably bridged on the hdd
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>>107033828
>>107033818
also no, it's not vendor-specific, it was added to the sata spec in 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA?useskin=vector#SATA_revision_3.3
most people won't run into it unexpectedly as it requires a hdd that is new enough to support this, supports this, and you use it with a power supply not new enough to support it, so a kind of specific scenario
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>>107032541
You mean like this
a="$(find /var/lib/docker/volumes/etc_letsencrypt/_data/live -type f -exec cat {} \; </dev/null 2>/dev/null | xxhsum | awk '{print $1}')"
# I renew my servers SSL certs in the certbot/dns-cloudflare Docker container
# docker run ...
b="$(find /var/lib/docker/volumes/etc_letsencrypt/_data/live -type f -exec cat {} \; </dev/null 2>/dev/null | xxhsum | awk '{print $1}')"

if ! [ "$a" = "$b" ]; then
# I reload my custom Nginx docker image here since the certs were updated
docker exec -i nginx /bin/busybox env PART=nginx-reload /entrypoint.sh
fi


Very easy thing to do.
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>>107033858
(psu both not new enough AND supplies 3.3v, for that matter)
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>>107033861
I am using xxhsum instead of sha256sum here but you could just as easily use any hash function you want. The principle is the same, concatenate every file in the directory and take a hash of that concatenation.
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Should I use an MBR or GPT partition scheme for burning my ISO with Rufus to a USB flash drive? Does it even matter, regardless if I'm installing on UEFI or BIOS hardware?
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>>107021873
Does this mean I can stick my Quadro K4000 in for my Mint installation?
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>>107033861
Anything more than 2 commands is shit
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>>107030859
>that completely changes syntax every few years.
it hasn't for a while, it's probably a dead end development wise. But sure, I'm glad I left that lua hell behind.
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>>107021831
I get this shit every time I turn on my PC (Using Kubuntu 24.04). Checking "Don't ask again" does nothing, it still keeps happening, sometimes it pops up again right after closing it. I removed all addresses from Kmail and Thunderbird, didn't fix it, I uninstalled them, didn't fix it. What do?
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>>107034745
Do you still have Akonadi stuff installed? Maybe that's responsible for it.
Failing this, check the autostart list in System Settings for unexpected entries.
Expand that message window and post the full title, I can look it up and identify the program or library that contains it.
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>>107034388
How would you do it then?
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>>107030265
fvwm
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>>107034110
i don't think it matters. when i use gnome disk utility to "restore image" (basically the same thing you're doing), sometimes the image defaults to MBR, sometimes to GPT. i don't think it would complain if you were to force it one way or the other, unless the installer only supports one method.
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>>107030265
I don't know about best but my favorite are icewm and openbox, fvwm is cool but I couldn't get into it
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>>107021831
h
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>>107035474
it was fucking adblock? really niggers?
anyway, someone make another thread
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New thread >>107035500
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>>107035474
h
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>>107027412
do you know anything about the
truetype:interpreter-version=40

option for FREETYPE_PROPERTIES?
would this make any difference?



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