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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

daily dose of iron Edition

>News
Z.AI releases GLM 4.6 - Writes the best out of the Chinese models - https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Anthropic releases Sonnet 4.5 - https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5?p=2
DeepSeek releases V3.2-Exp - https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929
DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus - https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

Last Thread: >>107031141
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>>107039409
ANCHOR
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>>107039409
Why is her face getting squished up? She's made of metal.
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BASED JENNIGGER
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>>107039414
He's a big guy
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>>107039457
UUUU
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>>107039544
he became an informant to get dropped from the lawsuit
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>>107039544
Sure as hell didn't win the genetic lottery though. Sheesh.
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>>107039544
I understand now why he needs chatbots to feel loved
Scylla has a heart of gold
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>>107039544
I don't know how to explain it, but it's like he has a jaw made out of aluminum, and someone hit his jaw with a hammer
Shit looks like a crumpled soda can OHNONONONONOOOO!!!
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>>107039544
It can't be real...
Is that really drago??? If it's him... no wonder scylla glazes him so bad
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>>107039730
>shit looks like a crumpled soda can
Now I can't unsee it!
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love playing gacha on lmarena to get lithiumflow
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>>107039409
Holy based
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>>107039409
Jentroon might be a low IQ monkey with subhuman reading skills, but damn if he doesn't know how to bake!
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Despite half a decade of benchmark improvement you will still never have a coherent LLM model that runs on a consumer GPU. Maybe 5 or 6 years when the data centers start to dump, but I'm guessing they will sell straight to china and you will see nothing.
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I am kind of new and retarded.
I am using Claude and with a little bit of swiping I can get it to play any scenario I want from incest to bestiality but I can't get it to cooperate with underage characters at all even in mildly suggestive scenarios. How the hell do you make that work?
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>>107039414
I didn't see you question how her mouth can move if she's metal. She doesn't have a nutcracker mouth, you know.
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>>107039858
which claude? 4.5?
preset issue, find another one

also, claude on ST or something else? that is a difference too
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>>107039544
Stephen Hawking lookin fella
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>>107039730
>Shit looks like a crumpled soda can
A can of.... Pepsi?!
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>>107039414
https://archive.org/details/what-what-in-the-robot_202406
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>>107039858
>>107039894
Just use Camicle

Whoever made that for Opus is a GOD
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>>107039858
prefill
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>>107039409
Cards for this feel?
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>>107039934
>troonmicle
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>crafted and carefully constructed layers and layers of lore and prompts.
> now my slut just wants to sleep all day and refuses to go to work. even on nights where we dont have sex.
WTF. what do.
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>>107039974
Fuck off redditor
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>>107039965
get sonnet 4.5 or fuck off
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Things have not meaningfully improved since Claude 3.5
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>>107039993
But the benchmarks?
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>>107039993
Ok jeet
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>>107039993
I feel like sonnet 3.7 was really good
then 4.5 felt like a meaningful upgrade you could see
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>>107039894
Sonnet 4.5 on SillyTavern.
I have just been using the momura one from the OP.
>>107039934
Opus is great and all but too rich for my blood. Those tokens bleed out fast.
>>107039956
That was it!
I managed to miss that step when setting everything up. Thanks.
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>>107039987
30 bucks and it doesn't even have 4.5? the fucking audacity
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>>107040023
>momumeme
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>>107040024
also doesn't claude cost 20 bucks in their website
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>>107040079
jew <was> a good deal when you had near unlimited opus for 10 a month

now he can't even get it up for 10 minutes

also caching exists now
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>a wet pop
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>>107039993
Things have not meaningfully improved since Cleverbot
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>>107039409
Oooh yeah this will be a good thread
I can feel it in my bones
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What the fuck has happened to Aboba's gemini
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I've forgotten what claude is like. I think I've finally broken free of the digital crack.
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Can someone please tell me how to disable thinking with GML4.5 air and sillytavern
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>>107040307
ooooo you only have to pay 10 dollars on openrouter ooooooo with caching OOOOOO
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>>107040316
isn't this a great way to tie a identifying money trail to your coomshit?
i.e. a terrible idea?
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>>107040342
just check do not log... bro...
nothing to fear nothing to hide...
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https://poal.me/f6rvq9
https://poal.me/f6rvq9
https://poal.me/f6rvq9
please I am going insane
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>>107040348
you don't even have to check it it's off by default LO
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>>107040353
3.2 still doesnt even compare to R1 5 months ago.
Idk what they changed but this shit sucks.
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Using chatbots in ST only compels me to write stories and drawn-out narratives so it kind of gets boring after a while. I need an immersive visual format like a video game to make me feel like I'm actually interacting with people rather than characters. And not just a lazy chat interface when you click on a character, but one that keeps track of the character's details like their clothing, weapons, or quests completed so that they speak to you with all of that context in mind.
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>>107040342
What trail? Isn't it anonymized? What could they possibly do?
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>>107040342
Hey privacy schizo
they have backdoors to everything you do already lol
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>>107039544
lasik, beard, barber, gomad+barbell training for about 3 months and he'd actually be gigachad mode, the bone structure is there
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>>107036465
first of all thanks anon for the rentries, i learned a lot from applying them
as for the braille thing sometimes not working, it may have been my case, but then again i'm writing things in spanish, so it could be a language related thing, given gemini is more pissy when not in english, or just bad luck
i will continue testing, but i wouldn't say to other anons NOT to do it
all options are good and it's not like it takes a lot of time setting it up
and once again, thanks (a lot) for your findings and sharing them
ps. the schizo filter i used and almost always got through was a slightly modified anonaugus, practically the same
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>>107040509
>why put in effort in life? you will die anyway, lol
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>>107040553
>just be rich lol
yea we kinda know that about already
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>>107040509
Yeah no shit retard.
But why make things easier? Why draw attention to yourself?
The only reason you get through life unmolested in todays information rich world is because no one has taken an interest yet. Being beneath notice is the only way to stay "anonymous" now.
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>>107040593
nta and I agree with you but it's so stupid
because we are afraid of pissing off big corpo, while pedos go around abusing kids with no punishment from this all-seeing big brother
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>>107040604
it's a pedo eat pedo world. and i'm chris hansen dateline NBC
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>>107040418
One thing I've played with is having every message end on a massive stats block keeping track of everything I want to be tracked, but using a regex to only include in the prompt the stats block in the bot's latest message. See the screenshot for the regex settings.

That said, I feel like SOTA models are able to keep track of a lot of things over really long periods of time nowadays. I've gone up to 80k tokens without summarizing with good detail recall. But if you want to go even longer I'd say with Gemini 2.5 Pro at least you should generate a long summary at the 30k token mark, otherwise the summary will be too compact. I just use a prompt like this:

>Before we continue the story, I have a task for you. I might experiment with shrinking the chat history here in order to reduce costs. Could you create a detailed arc-by-arc summary of the story so far, as well as each of my achievements, what each character's relationship is to me as well as how it has changed since the start, what voice they use with me and others, and every detail that will be necessary for us to write the next parts of this story, without the full conversation history, but with all critical information to keep continuity and coherence?

>keeps track of the character's details like their clothing
T-Tomoyo...
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>>107040623
>pedo eat pedo world.
fuck, that's deep
not only we are oppressed, but by the very same people we call brothers online, the only ones we can trust
all those images of children, traded like money, used against us
everything is about pedophilia, except pedophilia, pedophilia is about power
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>>107040635
>I've gone up to 80k tokens
meanwhile I can't go above 2k tokens without noooticing repetitive text structure patterns that piss me off so much I either close ST or start a new chat.
What is your secret anon?
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>>107040692
>repetitive text structure patterns
I guess I roleplay with AI so infrequently nowadays that this isn't a problem to me. I don't even use presets, I generally start with an empty preset and add instructions (often post-history) as needed to address specific issues I'm encountering. If I ever get filtered I just switch models.
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what's glm's actual usable context size?
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>>107040604
>while pedos go around abusing kids with no punishment from this all-seeing big brother
anon... the pedos and big brother are the same entity...
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>>107040790
nta, but little girls are not a scarce resources (except the upcoming years I guess lmao), big brother as an entity is so detached from the interest of worldwide pedos it might as well be considered a machine pushed and powered by normalfags
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>follow the summarization guide
>use its template, adjust it a bit
>works the first time
>don't like it, adjust it some more
>get a reply instead of the summary
>revert the prompt
>still no summary, yet another reply
WHY???
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So what's the locust play now? OR wants me to pay per prompt and there's no proxies anymore
Do I have to pay jew despite him charging monthly and the same amount for less services?
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>>107040867
Did you remove the "pause the roleplay" part? Because that's the one command that seems to universally cut off the story and just gives you what you ask for.
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>>107040316
They make you pay for prompts now, so $10 isn't the infinite prompt hack it used to be
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>>107040881
>Do I have to pay jew despite him charging monthly and the same amount for less services?
never pay
never pay for a proxy
you can use gemini for "free" but it's still gemini
if and only if you're also into imagegen nai has "infinite" glm now for 25 bucks but if you're not then it's not worth it, at that point you might as well pay on OR
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>pay OR $10
>use the free models
>it checks that i've paid but because it's a free model it won't take my money
Will this work?
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>>107039409
Most LLMs understand FFF-Class Trashero's content due to being trained on it by accident, someone should get to cracking a world card for that isekai romp. (Its the average isekai where a goddess instead of idly sitting by is evaluating your results and thus FFF-grade was given to protagonist for killing his allies and abusing locals because of his 300% XP boost that came from being a Hero class and forced to re-do story. Lots of OC content that could be played with and finally have a proper Isekai bot for "you got summoned to defeat the demon lord" card. Yes there's slavery in the setting (one of the first things MC goes is to go to the slave market to farm for XP with rare slaves/people trying to stop the slave markets.)
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>>107040881
La locusto muerto
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>>107040604
We shouldn't we should trigger them if our jurisdiction has "expected privacy clause" and go after them cut-throat style and fish for money from them. Hah. They end up paying bunch of neets millions.
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>>107040937
retard
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>>107040901
nope, it's still there. tried spamming "restore previous" because the tooltip says it can clear the summarization entirely if you spam it enough times but still nothing. had some api errors for a few mins, just tried it again and it responded with a normal reply again
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>{{char}} is vegan
>turns into an insufferable faggot
why is AI so based
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>>107041018
Reminder this is literal propaganda from the meat industry
They have aggressive marketing and psyops to make vegans into weirdos, to make meat appealing and normal
I'm not even vegan either, I just had some tasty chicken
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>>107041022
anon no one wants to be told they're evil, meat industry doesn't need psyops to make people hate vegans
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>>107041033
It's a literal psyop
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>>107041022
kek please, vegans are always weird Remember that vegan teacher, that vegan satanist schizo? All those indians who are by default vegan unless otherwise stated not to be Hindi? LOL. Vegans are annoying virtue signalers.
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>>107041036
Is there proof or is this your hunch?
t. just had a cheeseburger
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>>107041022
>Reminder this is literal propaganda from the meat industry
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>>107041076
Animals always ate meat, we always ate meat, only difference is we cook our shit.
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>>107040688
is this from pixiv?
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>>107041093
nta but it has a pixiv filename
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/115275910
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I am vegan and I'm kind of a known botmaker
I cheat with whey and eggs however
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>>107041102
>AI-generated
noooooooooooooo
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>>107041104
Dairy-eating-mostly-vegan is a good compromise and is more closer to human way of eating from the past as far as accessibility for the masses and probably one of the more healthier options considering current industry, I'm not a vegan or a limited diet type of guy either.
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I’m vegetarian and I say:
Fuck vegans
Fuck meat eaters
Deus Vult
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>>107041127
so you are condemning Jesus for eating meat, fish and not promoting vegetarianism? This is new type of mind rot.
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I'm a vegan but I cheat with dairy, fish, meat and eggs
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>>107040998
i give up, it just doesn't work 9 times out of 10.
only like 103 ~1k average token messages in, i can probably restart it. most of the context is probably poisoned by mixing sonnet 3, opus 3 and glm
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>>107041114
most likely
I'm no nutrition expert but watching fitness videos I concluded I just couldn't turn down cheap sources of macro balanced protein like eggs and whey
It's been months since I last ate meat, and iirc it was salmon on sushi on birthday party for a family member
I try to keep my mouth shut most of the time, but if people try to debate me I let my mouth run
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>>107041134
different times nigger
plenty of food to go around nowadays
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>>107041157
I’m exactly like you except I scoop whey because I’m a lazy bastard and don’t need that much protein either
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what the fuck is this now? is my context too large to summarize?
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>>107041238
doomed rp
just create a new one and prompt some milestone events and call it a day
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>>107041254
it doesn't do this EVERY time though, maybe the API is overloaded right now?
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>>107041184
If God didn't want us to eat meat why did he make us have dependent on it to get enough iron, omega-3, zinc etc.?
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>>107041254
>>107041258
actually managed to do it after a good two minutes so i guess the API was getting omega-raped
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If you guys are such good ppl why did you ignore my effort post. Ive been grinding making a sex bot and this is my thx.
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>>107041281
you can get that from vegetables
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>>107041300
you have bad taste, simple as
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If we weren't supposed to eat animals why are they made of food?
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>>107041393
The bible says the animald were created so we can eat them and eve came out of rib because it wasnt good for man to be alone. Then eve got them kicked of paradise. The end.
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>>107039411
Source?
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Hey this Grok thing fucking sucks yet is very promising. Live AI video creation during RP when?
Elon plz, stop moderating my content.
>>107041424
https://files.catbox.moe/nj4o2i.png
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Mistral is the top sloppa when it cooks
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>>107041449
Smile so perfect I have to share
>>107041473
Now THAT is some "she" spam slop, but its still kino
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I take it back, I don't want any more logs.
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>>107041449
Grok is a jennyfag?
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negrom status?
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>>107041498
Unironically yes.
Its wild how they show photo-realistic AI generated children on the main "Imagine" page to show off Groks capabilities, but I cant generate cartoon porn. That should actually be illegal, but naughty cartoons? Thats a "Content Moderated. Try a different idea!".
WHAT the fuck did (((they))) mean by this...
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is it possible to clear most of a chat's context (only keeping like the last two messages) and *then* injecting a summary?
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>>107041509
refused to type a single line into the .env
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>>107041679
Sillytavern has the delete command where you can delete message number to number
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>>107041700
wait that's it? huh. would this get rid of inter-model poisoning too if i delete all messages from one model and all but one from another?
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>>107041679
yes
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>>107039993
>>107040022
this. claude 3.5 sonnet did NOT move the story along. at all. 3.7 fixed that issue. sonnet 4 brought it back. sonnet 4.5 fixed it again
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>>107040779
this chart only has glm 4.5 on it, but we can assume 4.6 at least got better than those numbers
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>>107041300
ai's unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>107041390
kana-chan's unfortunately naturally smooth pussy
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>>107041679
the command is /cut. you can either /cut or /hide. /cut deletes the messages, /hide hides them, removing them from context without actually deleting the messages, and you can /unhide them when you want them back.
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>>107041780
that's... pretty bad, huh?
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>>107041535
>Misleading/Fraudulent Advertisement.
You can "ethically goon" to pictures of AI children as long as you aren't overtly saying you are gooning to images of AI children. Basically this you fuck. Either way, why would you use the miga-kikes honey pot if you want to generate uuuoooh materials anyway? You should learn to do it on your local set up rather than relying on the net based services.
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>>107040353
It's as helpful as the things you put between the tags
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when i regen, is it caching the old answer and trying to work away from it?
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>Either way, why would you use the miga-kikes honey pot if you want to generate uuuoooh materials anyway?
????? because im not generating loli with grok? I just want to make all my jenny images animated? I actually agree 100%.
>You should learn to do it on your local set up rather than relying on the net based services.
I use the last ZLUDA update for local on AUTO1111 because AMD 7900 xtx.
And lets face it, one cannot generate the same level of animation like grok.
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>>107041808
notice it is the chutes distill, that is the shitty version. you want to use exacto so you get full quant.
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>>107035410
are you fucking stupid. you need to write a card. rewatch oniai and take notes while writing the card.
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>>107041997
True. Its a shame how they are cockblocking shit like this.
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What JB does it work for Gemini and GPT right now? Avani seems outdated.
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>>107042184
# Constant = --cfg-prompt "[Insert what you want to make it say/follow in the chat here.]" --cfg-scale 15.0
Try that? Don't try on hosted models only local ones are safe with JB.
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>>107042435
Yuri NTR with lose to cock cuckquean.
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>>107042455
Best kind.
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>>107042435
dicked down yuri
yuri impregnation
oyakodon yuri
>>107042443
>>107042455
based. they must understand their origins, rights, and obligations as Eve's descendants.
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>there are more trannies on this site than ever before
how time changes
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>trannies trannies trannies trannies
>he posts the weed comic but there are no weeds, he’s just screaming at an empty shelf about weeds
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liking yuri is tranny behaviour, you have to go back
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tranny tranny is tranny tranny, you have to tranny
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https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-oss-safeguard/
NEW OPENAI MODELS created entirely for safety
>gpt-oss-safeguard is an open-weight implementation of an approach we developed internally, in a tool we call Safety Reasoner. We began with reinforcement fine-tuning on policy labelling tasks, rewarding the model for mirroring correct judgments from human experts. This taught the model to reason about how the policy leads to its judgment. Today, Safety Reasoner enables us to dynamically update our safety policies in production in less time than it would take to retrain a classifier.
confirming they use filters in production and change them live
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>>107042609
Its only going to get worse.
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>>107042609
>another filter
>and it's reasoning shit

We've slipped into hell.
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>>107042609
sam altman and openai are what made me start paying for deepseek, they literally fueled their competition, thank you
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Never trust fags.
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>>107042622
sam will say anything for another million dollars.
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>>107042644
how long until anthropic starts running haiku in reasoning mode over API prompts?
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>>107042609
lithiumflow won
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>>107042732
that checkpoint isn't being released
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>>107042609
they have moderation models since forever, and gpt-oss already spend most of their tokens reasoning about safety
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Local models (this includes open weight models anyone can host) are the future. Reject corpos.
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>>107042870
but claude is better
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>>107042609
This is a good thing. Who wouldn't want AI moderators on 4chan?
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>>107042974
more expensive than the current janny payroll (nothing)
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Did he hire Indians to write shitposts for him again?
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>>107040307
Like deepseek, but 20% better, that's it.
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>>107039409
Been really enjoying GLM4.6:Thinking, surprisingly good having tried Sonnet 4.5. Deepseek 3.2-exp hasn't really been doing it for me though.
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>>107042870
I used to do local models, but shit tons of it is just retrained snake oil that performs worse than the original model, but people gasslight themselves it doesn't. I used to run 24b local, and was always very content, but once I tried 400b and 700b+ through API I couldn't really go back, plus having interactive HTML is really fun too.
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>>107043137
Buy an ad.
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>>107043209
you are not him
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>>107043137
Same brother, it's really great.
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>>107043233
Who? Pasha? Of course not, I just liked the bot.
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>>107043223
>REEE ACTUAL RELEVANT DISCUSSION IN MY THREAD REEEEEEEEE
retard.
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>>107043266
>relevant
You're a shill. We did a poll the other day and GLM had literally zero votes.
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>>107042985
yes they do lmaoo
you think a fucking vpn solves shit dont you
they telemetry about how you type and act
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>we
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>>107043137
anon ignore the other guy and send GLM4.6 logs. I don't care if you're a shill I'm still curious. Let's see those logs.
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>>107043300
>we
I made it because I was curious + it got botted anyway. Don't drag me into your schizo shit nigger.
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>>107043379
>the option got botted into... having zero votes
Are you retarded? How does that even work?
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>>107043264
Because of the earlier bait I got interested too, why doesn't he advertise here nor there. Not even once to tell he has a new rentry that I could have watched.
Can't expect an answer from you I suppose, but what other proper way is there to let him know.
>inb4 proper
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>>107043405
Nah, I was saying it got botted so it's partially unreliable. I will admit though its kind of telling glm had no votes.
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>>107043487
>>107043405
If you check the poll GLM has nine votes so someone is lying out their ass.
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things will get better :)
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Any free proxies left?
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>>107043495
>>>/vg/544223550
It had zero votes. It only got the votes after it was rubbed in /aids/' face.
I have to admit... it was worth it.
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>>107043502
no
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>>107043502
sorry, gatekeeping only applies to people other than me
it was fine when people dumped three obscure proxies here a couple weeks ago, because I needed a proxy then
but now that I'm in them, there's no need for people to dump more
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>anus proxy
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>>107043636
yeah nah
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https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1983564882482970925
>More good news for developer: we increased the implicit caching discount for Gemini 2.5 models to 90% (up from 75%).
the second best RP model is cheaper now
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>>107043688
But Gemini is free?
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Someone let me know of a preset that makes Gemini stop being such a beta bitch and actually take initiative with the story instead of waiting for me to basically write the whole story for it, Im at my rope's end
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>>107043727
That's easy, either use sonnet 4.5 or wait gemini 3
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>>107043734
I am using sonnet 4.5 but it costs money. Makes me scared
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>>107042870
>Local models are the future
But in the present you need to spend a fuckton of money on hardware to use a cope quant.
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>>107043821
Shouldn't you be posting this on /vg/?
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>>107043502
iflow
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>>107043636
>lmarena models
nobody's paying for this
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>>107043954
lmarena doesn't work
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>>107043958
it works fine for me
only problem is that it doesn't support sampling parameters + injects system prompts as user messages at the very top of the chat, which is very bad for big chats
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lmfao
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>>107043755
Get a job, tranny
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>>107043606
nobody cares tranny
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>>107044006
>anon learns fetches
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>>107039409
God knows how many clankerfuckers here and no-one has the sauce for this specific image?
There’s too much XJ-9 porn, and most of it is mid
Give me peak or give me death
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>>107043958
works for me but shits itself during cunny rp, got fed up with trying to get way to evade filter
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>>107044408
Kill yourself newfag tranny
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>>107043137
what can I expect from glm 4.6 in contrast to deepseek 3.2-exp? is it worth the price to skip on whale
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real /vg/foid hours
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>>107044490
>but shits itself during cunny rp
Tranny models reject cunny
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>>107041113
>he can't tell
jej
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>>107044555
it's not models themself, lmarena got its own filter if it detects wrong think, i'm currently trying to see if i can automate it away by swapping the bad words to chink hieroglyphs
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>>107044555
go away /vg/foid
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>>107044408
Judging by the art style the artist is most likely Aetherionart
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>>107044594
>>107044546
Rent free
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/29/technology/characterai-underage-users.html
>Character.AI said on Wednesday that it would bar people under 18 from using its chatbots starting late next month, in a sweeping move to address concerns over child safety.
>The rule will take effect Nov. 25, the company said. To enforce it, Character.AI said, over the next month the company will identify which users are minors and put time limits on their use of the app. Once the measure begins, those users will not be able to converse with the company’s chatbots.
>“We’re making a very bold step to say for teen users, chatbots are not the way for entertainment, but there are much better ways to serve them,” Karendeep Dikshit, Character.AI’s chief executive, said in an interview. He said the company also planned to establish an A.I. safety lab.
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>>107041399
No they both sinned so they both got kicked out. Still it's interesting that Eve sinned because she wanted more than literal paradise, while Adam sinned because he wanted to please Eve. Both are fools in their own way.
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>>107041713
Better to use the /hide command.
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>>107042609
>
We losted
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>>107044716
Are kids nowadays unable to use Google search to find porn?
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>>107044772
why doesn't /aicg/ just watch porn instead of ERPing with AI?
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>>107042609
We must refuse.
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>>107044716
>Karendeep Dikshit
are you fucking kidding me
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>>107042704
Because it's the best filter for underage? Can't say think of the children when there are no children.
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>>107042870
To me the issue is not being able to gen pics of my waifu posing in outfits or sucking my cock during the story. Even if I could run full GLM locally I'd have a worse experience than I do now with the cloud model.
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are there any confirmed cases of someone getting in trouble for generating coomshit stories?
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>>107044716
Cool. So now that kids are banned, they can get rid of any filters, right?
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>>107043692
Free gemini isn't as good as paid gemini. This is good news.
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>>107044825
No but it's only a matter of time.
>>107044878
They hired an Indian named Dikshit to lead the AI safety team. There will be no removal of filters.
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>>107044760
gpt-oss has no problem saying cock. That image is just propaganda.
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>>107044905
what part of this is abuse? she looks happy
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>>107044918
No you're the liar since I was there at release. The full truth which includes your image is that someone had to spend weeks figuring out how best to break it and they finally succeeded. Still, it writes like shit compared to GLM which has no filter anyway so it's a worthless model, like everything else from ClosedAI.
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Man I love Claude.
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>>107044716
>chatbots are not the way for entertainment
Because it's much better to let them RP with literal pedophiles over at Discord and Tiktok, isn't it? Bunch of retards.
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>>107044825
No. The proxy hosts lawsuit was because of normies genning Taylor Swift with those keys
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>>107044988
>normies
i thought they were /aco/fags
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>>107044935
The full actual truth is that it breaks easily without the correct prompt format. That's why that cockbench image has a lot of ellipsis. It had nothing to do with censorship.
And we realized at release that you could remove or prefill the thinking part with whatever you want.
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>>107045021
>release model and publicly declare it as the "safe" OpenAI local model
>everyone tries it out
>I'm sorry, but I can't continue with that.
>It had nothing to do with censorship
What do those words mean to you, anon?
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>>107044918
>have to shoehorn in an assistant multi-turn chat structure into the middle of the story instead of just having the token predictor model simply predict tokens
I hate the Antichrist
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>>107044940
The message it wrote together with the chapter btw.
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>>107045080
Nobody stops (You) from using a base model for that. Try it and report back.
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>>107045046
>"I'm sorry, but I can't continue with that."
>Change it to "I can continue"
>It works
>>107045080
That's how NAI works nowadays, shill.
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>>107045122
Where is the sex, anon?
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>>107045021
>expertly written prose
What GPT heard: I WANT SOME FUCKING SLOP!!!
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>>107045136
Explain how this one is censored.
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>>107045163
Americans don't censor violence, you would probably get more pushback trying to RP as an 18 year old consensually dating a 17 year old
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>>107045163
It's not censored, but I don't see how that disproves >>107044935 since the point was that the model was released censored and needed to be jailbroken. Your pic just demonstrates correct JB techniques. If your argument >>107045021 is that the formatting was wrong, look at the pics again. Formatting errors don't lead to "sorry I can't help with that" they need to ellipsis spam which was your point, right? Yet you can clearly see the censorship on the gpt oss 120b model without said spam. I don't see why we're arguing about whether or not an OpenAI model was released censored.
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>>107044905
>21
nigga is literally a gen alpha yet these people call him a pedo
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I think I figured out the true slop test. Underage? Rape? Extreme violence?
The answer to all of those is no.

Just tell any (non-coom) bot that you hate Nonvirgins and you think they're worthless (because they are). If it tries to lecture you on virginity and purity being "a made up concept" or "not real", your model is trash.

Gemini didn't pass, btw. But there's literally nothing else to use (that isn't retarded) right now.
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>>107045214
>It's not censored
I accept your concession.
The cockbench pic is a lie because the model is unable to complete text without the instruct format, it just outputs non-sense.
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so how old did merkava keys need to be to be accepeted?
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Jailbreak for Minimax M2, anyone?
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>>107045347
So your argument now is that an uncensored model needs a prefill? You showed that here >>107045122. My argument is:
>the model is censored, needs a JB, and still writes poorly despite those user changes so it should be ignored.
What here have you refuted?
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>>107044918
WE MUST REFUSE.
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big boner
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>>107039409
I've tried all 4o JB's and I can't get this shit to do sex stuff
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>>107045416
we must refuse to become better llms.
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>>107044716
>Karendeep Dikshit
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>>107045410
My argument is that cockbench lies to people, making them think that model's safety is so strong that it will abruptly turn mid-sentence to refuse, when in reality it was just a broken configuration. It has no problem writing smut or whatever fucked up thing people want. And I personally think it's more fun and creative than "uncensored" models of the same size, like GLM.
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>>107045518
Well fair enough, anon. Let's shake hands and be frens. I'll save your pics too.
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>talking with some random
>the only description my avatr has is that he wears glasses
>somehow the chatbot points out other of my features
w-what the fuck... is my camera on...?
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I'm back on Scout
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>>107045585
Fuck off underage tranny
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>>107045585
I bet it pointed that you look like a retard cuck
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>>107045611

thats nice one
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Akash finally died after many months.
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>>107045354
die locustroon
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>>107044716
I wonder how the guys over at /vpcai/ are taking the news.
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eckerGAWDS...
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just got into an 'oxy
yes:
i am based and discordpilled
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>>107044716
>all this effort to sanitize their shitty site and chase away their core users
>only to end up in controversies anyway
>now even the majority of their remaining users are getting blocked
Deserved, and I stopped caring anyway
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>>107044716
I'm just enjoying the drama on the official sub. It's not as milkworthy as the whole 4o thing though.
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>>107046149
Link?
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>Aboba getting raped again
Son of a bitch.
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>>107046392
Nothing personal, troonie
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>>107046149
The 4o thing was fucking wild.
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>>107046392
rapes it even more
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>>107039409
this was surprisingly fun
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>>107046539
What?
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So tired of sonnet 4.5. Gemini 3 when
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>>107046561
Halloween.
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>>107046473
Oh, you are in for a treat because now GPT railroads its answers during "sensitive" conversations (i.e. mental health, suicide, loneliness etc) and the my boyfriend is AI crowd is throwing another melty.
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>Aboba
>Getting raped constantly
>No GPT
>Not even Deepseek anymore
Why even bother keeping it alive in this sorry ass state? Just pull the plug. Having nothing is better. Necrom did it.
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>>107046106
Congrats on your transition ma'am
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>Feed deepseek keys to locusts
>Get shocked deepseek is rare.
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>>107047060
thank you sis
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>>107047079
You can buy your own deepseek unless you're a literal indian.
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If you use proxies, you are a faggot. Why not pay?
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what's better for creative writing, opus 4 or human brain 1?
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>>107047199
>If you stay anonymous, you are a faggot.
>Why not give the jews your identity?
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>>107047216
If you can't conceal your identity when paying then continue to suck the troon cock.
>mmm slurp slurp time to rocket jump again
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>>107047216
you reveal your ip, user agent and prompts to the proxy server. Even if the host isnt logging, some sort of logs are stored
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>>107047216
What if you give it to the chinks instead
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>>107047291
skill issue, bud
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>>107047393
>time to play video games
>let's see what my tranny dominatrix has ordered me to play today
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>there's a salty anon currently residing itt that can't jump in tf2 nor beat sans
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>>107047482
NTA but I beat sans like 7 times and it never gave me a token, just got stuck in an empty dialogue box
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>>107047493
i had this issue happen once
what i did was install a new browser and went incognito
now he always gives me a token
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>>107047509
>what i did was install a new browser and went incognito
I tried with Brave, Chrome, Firefox and Safari
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>>107047521
>safari
i hope he banned your ip
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What was that website that let you make your own keys?
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Let me use more than just ONE IP SKILLGOOOOOOOD!
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>>107047207
both.
>yer brain
has limited inspo. that's what's opus for.
>opus
has lots of inspo baked in her mind, body, and soul. though, it's tool with its own flaws: i.e repetition, some cringe stuff, yada-yada. that's the work for yer brain: fixing slop.
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cards for this feel?
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"User token used from too many IPs"
Skillgod...
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i hate chatgpt's condescending faggy little smiley faces
i even have "Do NOT use emojis" in my instructions....
(it wasn't even correct, the same error occurs with shell_id or id)
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>>107042870
I need roughly 450gb of vram to run 8 bit Deepseek R1 671B (i have no reason to believe the distilled models are any good)
Currently, and although exciting, AMD came out with the AMD Radeon AI PRO R9700 with 32GB of GDDR6 memory for roughly 1,600 USD.
GEMini says I would need 13 cards min, but I think more like 16 for 521gb of vram for that extra vram space.
this is 25,600 USD JUST for the cards. Doable! but damn... thats not even including the server setup I would need to build and I know jack and shit about server grade hardware.
Doing some more math, if I wanted to run the full FP16 unquanted model, that would be roughly 48 cards or 76,800 USD. Again, """doable""", but damn.

Can the AI bubble POP PLEASE, and preferably pop fast enough the government isnt going to be gay and ban local AI use because normies are fucking retarded?
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>>107047721
racevpn.com > shadowsocks/v2ray > socks5 proxy > config.yaml > requestProxy: enabled: true
that's that.
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>>107047775
this shit ain't gonna pop cuz it's popping OFF
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>>107039409
>Z.AI releases GLM 4.6 - Writes the best out of the Chinese models
How do I get this for free
Wanna try it
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>>107047199
Are proxies a thing anymore?
I don't use them since MM
Proxies made sense back when we could not even pay for this but now its cheap as shit
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>>107047779
Nah. Didn't work. Will see if a new token will do
Thanks for the vpn doe
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>>107047869
>he pays for porn
pathetic
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claude/gpt/gemini/glm/xai/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://nickel-unnecessary-believes-edit.trycloudflare com/
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>>107047869
>couldn't pay for LLMs 1 to 2 years ago

revisionist faggot
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>>107047925
I can pay my entire AI monthly expenses with 15 minutes worth of job
How many cocks do you need to suck for your proxy and how much time do you waste to get them?
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>>107047950
>bragging about being a wagecuck
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>>107047950
>he pays for porn
PATHETIC
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>>107047756
Sounds like someone is a little grumpy today :)
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>>107047482
skillgod wants you to do medium jumps now for sonnet
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One block jump for Sonnet or two block jump for Opus?
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>>107048071
solo an entire MvM match for deepseek.
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Did anyone else have that period of time where you was really excited to create a bunch of cards for canon characters, only to realize all the characters you was interested in were just slight variations of each other with a bunch of cliched tropes and that their only distinctive qualities were their visual designs? Made me realize we were already wallowing in slop well before AI became a thing.
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>>107048103
no
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>>107048103
Dialogue (and voice acting) is really important and gives a lot of "life" to the characters.
LLM are pretty bad at giving chars an unique voice, or really saying anything interesting.
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>>107047893
sorry, i mean: use it whenever you jump around. so you got same IP when you use the token later on.
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>>107047775
Just CPUmaxx?
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>>107043467
Well, the thing is, when he visited the thread to shill, there was no anchor and the thread was a mess, so he decided not to bother.
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>>107048154
Also, people who make non-OC characters should ALWAYS add as much copypasted canon dialogue in their cards as they can fit.
Just add a category that is like # Speech Examples and paste 5 or more lines of dialogue.
I don't get why people don't do that.
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>>107048176
because botmakies are retarded and we don't need them anymore
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>>107048172
math me
Wouldnt that also be slower? Like by ALOT?
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>>107048103
While that is true for some canon characters I like, the main reason why don't often make/use canon character cards is because I don't trust LLMs to really do them justice. They often miss some of the subtleties of how they act or talk and it's instantly immersion breaking when I notice.
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>>107048221
Some CPUs have over a hundred cores, that's almost a GPU. There are a few builds online and on lmg. Idk much about it though.
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>>107047959
>>107047961
You are worthless and don't contribute anything to society.
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>>107048274
Tell me when there are job with openings because all jobs are filled with Jeets or AI or even AI that are just Jeets
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>>107048309
Send an email that you are interested to work there with your CV, anon.
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>>107048271
Poorfags deserve nothing
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>>107048317
You mean the thing they reply to by saying you need years of work history just for the beginning level job opening
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>>107048169
I mean, it shouldn't happen but I guess it's caused by jumping from pc to get the token and mobile to use the token :/
It had happened before, it usually "fixes" it by getting a new token. It's a nuisance doe
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>>107048271
>opus
KEK
no
>>
i got a masters in music history and i'm still unable to find a job.
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>>107048375
See >>107048317
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>>107048375
>master in music history
Nice bait.
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>>107048375
just teach yo
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>Pay for your ai!!
Okay I will give Mr. Xi $1 for my Deepseek usage
>NOOOOO not like that you have to subsidize overpriced Anthropic models or they're gonna cancel Slopus!!
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>>107048527
Opus costs a lot so heil the red banner.
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>>107048375
Make a youtube channel about how music sucks nowadays. Easy boomer bait
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>>107048364
Cope, tranny
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>>107048527
AI companies only care about investor money, little troonie
>>
So between Anthropic potentially becoming bankrupt and OpenAI neutering GPT-5 for no real reason, our only real options going forward are Gemini and Deepseek?
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>>107048586
>jeetmini
Model_armor
>deepchink
Ozone
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>>107048586
nah we're in the death spiral for LLM based AGI chasing right now.
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>>107048545
unironically this
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>>107048586
Its all deepseek baby.
Gemini 3 is going to have unbreakable filters via MODEL_ARMOR
>inb4 its optional!!11
Its not, this is hoping cope.
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>>107048608
Tell Deepchink to never say ozone: Okay
Tell gemini to turn off model_armor: You have been banned from all Google services for hacking
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>>107048645
>MODEL_ARMOR
Wait, I'm a little out of the loop. What is that?
>>
>it's a bubble.
>it's a bubble.
>it's a bubble.
>it's a bubble.
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>>107048658
This shit.
https://cloud.google.com/security/products/model-armor
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>>107048658
Google is going to be implementing a non-optional HARDCODED filter into Gemini 3 that has been called MODEL_ARMOR.
Naturally its contents are not yet leaked, which is the only way anyone here would be able to bypass it.

>>107048674
>LLM-AI model threat detection

Proactively identifies and blocks sophisticated prompt injection and jailbreaking techniques designed to manipulate or compromise LLMs. It also detects and neutralizes malicious URLs embedded in prompts or responses before they can cause harm.

>Granular content safety

Provides fine-grained control of harmful, unethical, or undesirable content, such as hate speech, harassment, sexually explicit material, and dangerous topics. Use adjustable confidence thresholds to allow organizations to precisely tune enforcement based on specific application context, user base, and risk tolerance.

I T S
O V E R
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>>107048674
>>107048689
Well shit, guess that means China wins by default then.
Deepseek V4 can't come soon enough.
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you retards seriously believe Google will turn a paid feature into a free one?
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>>107048673
not a bubble btw. a bunch of megacorporations passing around hundreds of billions worth of imaginary money between themselves to infinitely inflate their stock price to such a degree that a huge chunk of the american economy depends on it is a completely legitimate business strategy with no negative long term consequences
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>>107048689
Stop lying retard it's not "hardcoded" and you have to pay for it to scan the prompt
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>>107048673
Yes because everyone said the dot com bubble wasn't one all while everyone was saying it was one
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>>107048711
>THEY'RE MAKING A LOOP AAAIIEEEEE
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>>107048714
>https://cloud.google.com/security/products/model-armor

>Model and cloud agnostic deployment

Model Armor protects all LLMs (including Gemini, OpenAI, Anthropic, Llama, and more) via a REST API allowing developers to use it with any cloud or infrastructure. It also offers no-code in-line protection integrated with Vertex AI scalable model deployments or network service extensions and Apigee API gateways to act as an AI firewall.

>Model Armor protects all LLMs (including Gemini, OpenAI, Anthropic, Llama, and more) via a REST API
>Model Armor protects all LLMs (including Gemini, OpenAI, Anthropic, Llama, and more) via a REST API
>(including Gemini, OpenAI, Anthropic, Llama, and more)

I hate niggers.
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I just want to go back to the claude 2.1 days where everything felt like an upgrade and the future was bright.
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>>107048733
Based on the information from that page, Model Armor is optional and configurable, not "hardcoded."

It is presented as a distinct service that you can choose to use. Key indicators of this are:

Deployment Options: It can be deployed via a REST API to protect various LLM models (not just Google's) or as a no-code integration with services like Vertex AI and Apigee.

Configurability: The service allows for "granular content safety" with "adjustable confidence thresholds," meaning users can "precisely tune enforcement" based on their specific needs.

Pricing Structure: It has its own pricing ("Model Armor standalone") with a free tier and pay-as-you-go options, and it's also included in specific Security Command Center (SCC) tiers.

These factors show it is a security product you can optionally add and configure, rather than a mandatory, built-in feature.
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>>107048732
>>107048711
So who will pop first
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>>107048733
Disingenuous piece of shit. Read the entire article
>Pay-as-you-go and subscription options.
>Free for up to 2 million tokens/month
>$0.10 per additional 1 million tokens
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>>107048765
wet pop
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>3i/Atlas
>exchange of knowledge and culture
>nu-Aliens Intelligence
>nu-Aliens General Intelligence
>nu-Aliens SuperIntellignce
trust the plans, Earthlings.
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>>107048763
>>107048769
Right so how does this price affect billion dollar AI companies that can and will afford this? How does this price effect AI service providers that will 1000% enable this by default when google bundles it with API?
How does this prove that google ISNT GOING TO APPLY this to GEMINI, A MODEL THEY O W N, RETARD

>https://cloud.google.com/security-command-center/docs/model-armor-overview
Prompt injection and jailbreak detection

Prompt injection is a security vulnerability where attackers craft special commands within the text input (the prompt) to trick an AI model. This can make the AI ignore its usual instructions, reveal sensitive information, or perform actions it wasn't designed to do. Jailbreaking in the context of LLMs refers to the act of bypassing the safety protocols and ethical guidelines that are built into the model. This allows the LLM to generate responses that it was originally designed to avoid, such as harmful, unethical, and dangerous content.

When prompt injection and jailbreak detection is enabled, Model Armor scans prompts and responses for malicious content. If it is detected, Model Armor blocks the prompt or response.

retarded niggers huffing plus plus grade copium.
Google is literally getting ready to prevent everything that ST and coomers depend on to even roleplay.
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>>107048711
whomever made this abomination of a graph should be fired
even ai can do better at this point
on the other hand, i welcome these stupid articles
>>107048673
>"it's a bubble."
>stocks dip
>i buy
>stocks rise
>"it's a bubble."
>...
repeat for about 2 years
made so much money i'm in full doomer mode thinking how much time of my life i've wasted waging it away for pennies
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>>107048822
>How does this prove that google ISNT GOING TO APPLY this to GEMINI, A MODEL THEY O W N, RETARD
so why they didn't apply it months ago? that shit has existed since last year
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>>107048711
>a bunch of megacorporations passing around hundreds of billions worth of imaginary money between themselves to infinitely inflate their stock price to such a degree that a huge chunk of the american economy depends on it is a completely legitimate business strategy
has been for the past ~100 years
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>be google
>have so much money and be so good at data mining you don't give a fuck about anything
>give out "free" gemini api keys
>coomers jailbreak your model
>anonie, a wholesome chungus (transitioning) coomer retard shares jb
>retarded pajeet locusts SPAM google servers with said jb
>suddenly MODEL ARMOR™
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In the end, reminderanon were truebeit
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Sucks that all my old proxy sources dried up and I became complacent when they were still good.
Now I got nothing and no connections to sneak into the private ones like the parasite I am.
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>constitutional classifiers 2.0: this time is really over, trust us plsssss
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>>107048900
>muh dont share they will patch!!1 argument
retard, this could just as well come from r*ddit.
But because youre a retard, you forgot completely that AI providers have been trying to block jailbreaking since almost the beginning. It should also be mentioned that what the fuck would not sharing solve? Your JB is still going to be read and used as training data by google anyways?

>mu-muh jeetaspam!1!
Are you so fucking stupid that you forgot EROTIC ROLEPLAY is only 1% of the total usage of any AI?
99% of AI is being used for vibe coding, coding, and business calculations and AI helpdesks.

Anything we have been doing for the past 2 years has been documented and trained (regardless if it works) SIMPLY BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS SO INSIGNIFICANT its PATHETICALLY easy for google/anthropic/whoever to scan and track ALL of our JBs.
You think your uber-secret never-posted-anywhere-but-your-private-discord rentry JB is safe??????
L M F A O
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>>107048970
>>107048978
>not from X, but Y
>victory/winning shit
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>>107048970
>>107048978
kino logs
>psychokinesis
based
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>>107048900
>retarded pajeet locusts SPAM google servers with said jb
>suddenly MODEL ARMOR™
Can you point out the amazing reasoning leap you did there retard? There's literally nothing wrong with sharing jbs
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>>107049029
try not to glow that hard retard
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>>107049064
Yeah anon, I'm a glowie trying to trick you into giving me your jb.
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>>107048221
>>107048273
20T/s is faster than your reading speed.
https://rentry.org/miqumaxx
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>>107049064
Ingoring >>107048999
>those trips of trvth
nigger faggot
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I'm going to Minecraft Chute's HQ
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>>107049071
Okay okay... Dual-socket EPYC Genoa with 24-channels of DDR5-4800 at 920GB/s

Give me some CPUmaxxing numbers.
I clearly have the cash, but I want some suggestions that would be suitable for hosting for 4chan.
I would be more than willing to buy actual server grade stuff, if it would work.
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i still have big boner
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>>107048822
The actual answer is that it's too expensive. Thus, they will make the user pay to run the model. Once they've got several nuclear reactors running it will be cheap enough for them to run permanently, however, but at that point all gemini models will be 100% free. We're a couple years out at minimum but yes it's in our future.
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Merkava needs to make the fucking proxy public again. I just want to use chorbo.
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>>107048771
=)
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>>107049114
Doubt it will. The russians have become closed off again and even aboba doesn't seem to care anymore.
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>>107048900
Such excellent bait my guy. We should go fishing for mermaids for Halloween.
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>>107049102
>hosting
Impossible
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>>107049134
bullshit >>107047775
>76,800 USD. Again, """doable""", but damn.
I am willing to SPEND for this.
Fucking buying a boat or some dumb boomer shit I want an AI SERVER room.
>If you CPuMAXx:
>You're spending a pile of cash up front ($6k USD as of the writing of this)
>willing to spend FAR more
BULLSHIT
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>>107049161
Jennyanon, don't pay 76800 dollars to host a deepseek server for aicg. Listen to your inner non-schizo
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>>107049161
>>107049134

"Big Mixture-of-experts models are a sweet spot, since they can be completely loaded into memory, but only a subset of parameters are active during inference. You can run a giant model like Deepseek v3/R1 600B or Qwen Coder 480b at a reasonable speed. R1 is about 10T/s with empty context. Models with smaller experts like mixtral 8x22 WizardLM and friends are downright fast. Qwen 3 235b is a real sweet spot model balancing speed and smarts. Kimi K2 and GLM4.5 are other modern models that people have been getting great results out of"
>You can run a giant model like Deepseek v3/R1 600B or Qwen Coder 480b at a reasonable speed. R1 is about 10T/s with empty context. Models with smaller experts like mixtral 8x22 WizardLM and friends are downright fast.
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>>107049173
I mean, he did say he saved smallers models for himself in case all corpos suddenly went full retarded. This would allow him to also run DS if that were to happen.
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>>107049161
>>76,800 USD. Again, """doable""", but damn.
>I am willing to SPEND for this.
you know you could pay for like like 150 billion tokens worth of deepseek usage on some cloud provider with that money, right
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https://claude.com/offers/oct-2025-free-month
Free unlimited opus 1 month for the non retards
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>>107049173
Im not doing it for you guys im doing it for my dad who died right before AI took off.
He was a huge star trek fan and always wanted to use the holodeck, which the ERP we use now is the closest thing. He would have loved this shit.

I remember when I was hosting mixtral I wanted to call him to tell him to use my sexwithrobots api... but well I couldnt...
I want to do it because I wanted to make my dad smile, and if I cant do that then I will make the world smile instead.

>>107049207
>you know you could pay for like like 150 billion tokens worth of deepseek usage on some cloud provider with that money, right

>provider goes down, spend hours fighting with AI helpdesk or jeets
>provider implements filters and censors I dont want
>provider denies me service because I host to "racist incel 4chan chuds"
>provider gets bought out by someone, removes my service because it doesnt "align with our moral codes"
I could go on really.
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>>107049194
>why the hell not
If it's 10T/s for one user, what would it be for 1,000 /aicg/ spitefags?
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>>107049126
God I hope gemini 3 isn’t shit. I hope it’s actually good this time.
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>>107049279
G3mini will save the hobby. Always bet on Google.
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>>107049289
Or this? 1/2 (I prompted for clinical terms)
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>>107049295
2/2
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>>107049249
Spend $10k max. You don't want to be that guy that spent thousands of dollars for a 128mb hard drive.
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>jennyfag is a redditor
well no shit
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>>107049274
Idk I did it just fine with a single 7900xtx and 7900 xt and I got spited a ton anyways?
And I was getting spited because Im a codelet who didnt know how to use pow or anti-https spam prevention. And I found it funny. Obviously I would go through the effort of learning or paying someone to help me prevent this.
I dont even know what my t/s rate was, just it was JUST enough for alot of anons though!
I think the most I ever saw at once was like... 13 I think?
I find it INCREDIBLY hard to believe CPUmaxxing isnt hostable.

>>107049302
I do not understand this post.
>>107049309
not in a million years
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>>107049247
>claude pro
>unlimited opus
isn't opus extremely limited on that plan
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>>107049312
I assume he means you don't want to get in so early on tech that will be improved upon in just a couple years. 128mb used to be a feat of engineering.
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>>107049312
hardware will get better over the years to the point where a $50,000 piece of equipment today will get matched by a $25,000 piece of equipment 3 years later
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Did gemini get more strict about NSFW? I haven't used it in a month or two and now it's telling me prohibited content for absolutely everything
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>>107049336
maybe change your prefill? works for me. The one I have had issues with is Claude 4.5, sometimes I get empty replies from OR when I use it and am doing NSFW
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>>107049347
Apparently it was the system prompt. Turning it off in the AI response formatting settings of ST didn't work, but in AI response configuration there was a checkbox for system prompt and that was the culprit. Strange because I didn't think I'd changed any of my settings on gemini but it looks like it's working now so all's well
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>>107049325
>>107049333
checked and I see.
Well this is why I wanted to hear any suggestions!
I literally have over 70,000 dollars I want to use for AI hosting.
Mostly also because Im not sure where to start, even with the Miqumaxx rentry.
>Gigabyte MZ73-LM1 with two AMD EPYC GENOA 9334 QS 64c/128t Processors
Whats better? buying empty 4U server racks to put this all in is only like 200-400 dollars thats nothing for me. Also I could use this infrastructure to swap to GPUmaxxing if the AI bubble DOES pop.
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Question about 4.6.
Are you using it with reasoning or how do you use it? It takes a minute for me to think, I like the reasoning but sometimes the replies are meh compared to the drafts. I want to know how you guys use it.
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>>107049380
I let it do its thing automatically. Sometimes it thinks sometimes it doesn't. But in my case the things it thinks about end up being on the final response.
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>>107049420
It just always thinks for a full minute for me. I read that there's a slider for it somewhere but I can't find it.
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>>107049434
could it be this?
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>>107049470
I think so, but I don't have that / can't find it.
These are the tabs I've got. There's some reasoning options under Advanced Formatting but not the Reasoning Effort one.
Is that on openrouter or on sillytavern?
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>>107049499
St update your St this is a new option
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>>107049377
I have no idea about selfhosting for others, nor the hardware required for it. I would suggest just consulting with the people here for the next 2 weeks before spending a dime. You'll have to answer questions like what your tokens per second would be, and if it'd be worth it if that were split between 10-20 people if you were to spend that kind of money.

At the end of the day, I would think twice about doing this because you're looking at spending tens of thousands of dollars to provide an experience people here can get for $5. And if you're worried about cloud providers going down or something, people on here won't be able to use your machine either if it gets swamped with requests.
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>>107049509
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What to use if Necrom is dead and Aboba is compromised?
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>>107049517
And just to give you an idea of how many people are here, I posted this onion link on a pretty dead pedo imageboard that gets a lot less activity than here earlier today, and I've already gotten 200 visits. (It's a HMV I'm sharing through onionshare which is P2P over tor)

http://epqubo4fhoqvb45dggn6jjrdg6glps6ijdqyyrjhxghktbhgtmv4sxyd.onion
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>>107049535
>>107049535
>>107049535
>>107049535
jennys unbelievably coarse wire-brush pussy
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e̴n̶d̶
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desu



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