Tried installing xborders because it was supposed to be a workaround for i3 not having "proper" curved borders. I installed the requirements, even setting up a venv like some others on GitHub did even though the instructions don't say anything about that, only to be hit with this

[arch@archlinux xborder]$ ./xborders --help
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/arch/xborder/./xborders", line 14, in <module>
    gi.require_version("Gtk", "3.0")
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: module 'gi' has no attribute 'require_version'

The fact that xborders hasn't been updated in 2 years doesn't fill me with much hope either.

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>whoa, is that a terminal? that linux thing, you must be so smart

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>>107082392

>>107082392
>This space is intended for everyone, including absolute beginners.
Constructive criticism and I don't want to be "That Guy" and bring politics in it but can we replace "space" with thread? I feel like the word space gives off a political bias these days unless we are actually talking about the void that the earth sits in (Space).

>>107082392
bumping my question

Having an issue with deleting files on btrfs and the space not automatically being given back. And I'm permanently deleting in Yazi using the D command rather than d.

>>107082956
>btrfs
Self-inflicted.

>>107082927
Not even a political bias but some reference to zoomer brainrot.

>>107082980
Care to explain because I don't understand since Millennials have been using the word "safe space" and "space" for ages to flag their political alignment. Also this place is a thread, not a space.

Is there a directory search I can download to replace Thunar's shit search function?

>>107082956
are you deleting a unique file or a copy of a file?

>>107083400
A unique file. I looked it up and apparently it has something to do with snapper. I just cleared out all snapshots and it still hasn't given back my space so I assume it's something that happens on a lag.

Dumb question but when you hold the shift button as you boot up linux and it takes you to the normal and safety modes of those versions is that timeshift or is that native?

>>107083459
I don't know what you're saying, but with "versions" it sounds like timeshift.

>>107083443
Run a rebalance and install the maintenance scripts which will periodically do this for you.
https://github.com/kdave/btrfsmaintenance

>>107083512
What's the part that confuses you?

>>107084171
I've never heard of anything called a safety mode which has versions.

>>107084196
restart your computer, hold shift, select advanced options and you might see what I mean.

>>107084220
That's where I have timeshift snapshots if I remember correctly, but I don't remember any safety mode being there.

>>107084233
Mint came pre-installed with timeshift and I had a bunch of regular and recovery/safety mode snapshots so no idea. But its good to know that its actually timeshift

>>107084276
Well, actually I'm not sure. I looked at my grub config and for me there's a special menu for timeshift snapshots and advanced only really contains boot options for the fallback initramfs.

Maybe you should describe what you're seeing more accurately. Does Mint even use snapshots? I don't think Mint uses BTRFS.

>>107084302
I'm not on Mint anymore and I can answer this question by just saving and rebooting.

I love the fact when you get a save file dialog and begin typing it defaults to search. Who the fuck designed this? Why would I ever want to use search if I save a file from my web browser?

>>107084473
Which DE/fm?

>>107083982
Apparently I hadn't deleted snapshot 1. Got 8gb back.
Idk why I thought deleting snapshot 1 would break shit.

>>107082927
Only if you're a dumb faggot

>>107084713
Glad you could join us in the dumb faggot club!

>>107084473
You're just biased because of your previous experiences. If you were impartial and tried it with an open mind you'd see that it's much better this way.

Also I'm severely brain damaged.

>>107083459
Maybe that's your bootloader? Most distros keep multiple kernels (older ones) and allow to boot into them if you have issues with the newest one.

I have a thinkpad x230 with an i5 3320M. Can it handle a virtual machine with KVM?

>>107084641
Yeah, you can delete anything apart from snapshot 0 (your current snapshot).

Got a raspberry pi 2 model B v 1.1 from my uncle and I want to install gentoo linux on it for the heck of it, but on the download page I see the option to get a hardfp iso. I already run a gentoo system on my laptop so I'm pretty familiar with the os, but I can't tell whether I should use the hardfp-version iso or not.

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Well, there's one roadblock to installing from multiple CDs. I wonder if it would be any different on real hardware

>>107085054
whats a CD?

>>107085054
I haven't touched a real CD in 10 years but I have installed games like this from multiple iso files with cdemu

>>107084994
Read the Wiki:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

It's a bit of a disorganised mess because of all of the different Pi models but all the information is there.

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>>107085126
That actually gave me something of an idea. Though ripping ISOs and mounting those to the VM failed, what I ended up doing was putting them in a VISO and mounting THAT to the VM. I was able to successfully install it. Playing it, on the other hand...

>>107085418
are you trying to launch from desktop? Because if you are, don't. Launch from the exe in terminal it should output an error message if it fails and go from there.

>install gentoo on btrfs because think subvolumes are cool
>never use the snapshot feature because i don't honestly care
Feels like such a waste. Am I getting any benefit from BTRFS? I don't feel like taking snapshots because I don't honestly care and I can't even think of reasons why my system would break on upgrades.

>>107083459
That's GRUB, the bootloader. Standard functionality.

>>107085745
Nope, that's the only reason to use butterfingers fs.

>>107085745
You have checksums so you'll know if bitrot occurs. No other filesystem besides ZFS and Bcachefs does this.

>>107086058
Sweet.
>>107085840
That's what I thought but it does have plenty of other features, such as anon's mentioned checksums and also compression. I set compression to force and zstd:3 for all my subvolumes during installation.

>>107085418
Maybe it's graphics related? That VM doesn't have native 3D acceleration probably

>>107086117
I view filesystem compression as "neat, but what's the point?" because even the barest VPS nowadays is offering gigabytes worth of space.

>>107086219
It can actually improve performance in some cases if you can feed the CPU faster than you can read from disk.

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These are my BTRFS subvolumes btw. Anything else I should split into subvolume?

>>107085780
Then what's the point of timeshift if you can just reboot and older version?

>>107086058
>you'll know if bitrot occurs
*if/when you scrub or read the file
*and you can't do anything about it

What's the command to permenantly change the neofetch and is there a better ascii converter than jp2a?
I'm using pngs so should I be using pn2a? :^)
>>107086398
Bit rot is a meme and was banished years if not decades ago, modern storage can be preserved for at least 100 or 200 years before bit rot happens. That is 1 aspect of retro/old computers I don't miss.

>>107086398
You can restore the file from your backup if you have one. The fact that it tells you that something is wrong is still better than other filesystems.
>>107086410
It's not a meme though. Facebook has literally seen it in production caused by faulty hardware and without BTRFS they'd never have even known.

>>107086277
Some subdirs in my home are subvolumes like .mozilla so I can roll back home snapshots without resetting my firefox history etc.

>>107086436
That's a cool idea anon, I'll think about it.

>>107086419
>it tells you that something is wrong
Except there's no UI for it and if you miss the log, then backup the busted file and prune old backups... it's gone anyway. :^)

>>107086492
That's why you should check your log, and yes someone should really make a desktop notifier that warns of BTRFS errors. Why nobody at KDE or GNOME has thought to do that is beyond me.

>>107086419
>Facebook has literally seen it in production caused by faulty hardware and without BTRFS they'd never have even known.
Facebook is also hosted and saved on decades old servers and hardware that would be vulnerable to brain rot.

>>107086663
It was a hardware bug, not old hardware. Without BTRFS they'd never have even spotted it.

>>107082961
What filesystem should be used?

>>107086674
>It was a hardware bug
So then it wasn't bit rot...

>>107086692
Bitrot was end the result of the hardware bug.

>>107086699
... So then it wasn't bit rot... It was data loss... Due to a bug...

>>107084837
why wouldnt it?

>>107086708
What do you think bit rot is exactly? If your hardware's not storing data properly that's bit rot.

>>107086717
>If your hardware's not storing data properly that's bit rot.
That isn't bit rot... Jesus Christ we are fucked if this is the caliber of the next generation...

>>107086725
Of course it's bit rot. If it wrote the data back correctly but then due to a bug the data ended up corrupted then that's bit rot. It's no longer the original data you wrote to the storage medium in question. The data has rotted.

>>107086733
Okay, you're trolling me, last (You). Really had me going there for a second.

test

>>107085418
Whatever you do it's always best to convert whatever .bin or alcohol120% format to .ISO. I have bunch of converters on Windows for retro games when needed (now backed up). Just installed games Mechwarrior 3 and 4 before I migrated to Linux.
Just run the converter via Wine.

>>107086717
Bit rot is when your drive is losing data to media degradation and it knows it's losing data. Because drives store parity data and they're supposed to know this. Hardware fuckups are when your drive tells you it's giving you the correct data and it's not.

I'm on Xubuntu how do I change my folder icon to a custom one or is that not a thing that is possible?

>>107086799
The distinction is irrelevant. Your machine can get hit with a cosmic ray and flip a zero to a one and that's bitrot too. It's doesn't matter whether the cause is physical, software related, or due to physics, the end-result is the same. You're data is fucked and without a filesystem that checksums you have no way of knowing unless you manually inspect every single file.

This why archivists keep CRC files, etc, but with a filesystem that has checksums built-in you have no need for these files because it's already an integral part of the filesystem.

>>107086663
>vulnerable to brain rot.

>>107086829
I didn't say the distinction is relevant to the case at hand, I'm just telling you exactly what bitrot is because you're fukn ignant.

>>107086862
The bit rot BTRFS detects is designed to detect failures the hardware can't. If the hardware thinks everything is fine BTRFS can still detect if it's lying.

>>107086191
Maybe. I hit a similar issue with getting Bionicle Heroes running, but that spat out a more generic error without a debug output.

Anybody got clip studio paint?
How well does it perform on winboat and/or wine?

I am a digital artist wannabe planning to switch to linux.

>>107086875
btrfs handles bit rot by having a raid facility. It has helpful log output for single copy bit rot, but there's principally no reason every filesystem can't instead of printing inode numbers. You don't need checksum accounting for that. You need checksum accounting when the drive is telling you bad data is correct.

>>107087158
It uses RAID to repair it but it still checksums all data and metadata (important: filesystems like XFS only checksums metadata and does not check the data at all).
You can also configure BTRFS to use a DUP profile even with a single drive but that mostly wastes space for no reason unless you're paranoid.

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>whine about gentoo desktop profile missing webp USE flag in /fglt/ few days ago
>upgrade my system now and notice gimp comes again from binhost because now it has webp USE in it
>check gentoo git repo and sure enough someone just fixed desktop profile USE flags adding webp and avif etc
I guess from now on I just whine about my problems here and then expect a fix to arrive in few days. Convenient.

>>107086710
Old hardware. I know the CPU will let me do it, but I don't know what kind of performance to expect.

I'm configuring my waybar config to adjust audio by scrolling up and down. Pulseaudio. On scroll it does:
>pactl set-sink-volue @DEFAULT_SINK@ +2%
Or -2%, on scroll down.
Problem is, that lets me go above 100%. I don't want to blow my speakers by trying to play audio at 10000% volume or even risk the chance of doing that by accident. Nor do I want to go deaf by doing the same with earplugs on. How can I limit the volume so it never goes above 100%?

>>107087223
>performance
your performance depends on what you are running and how you are running it
no to mention there are different types of "performance"
and if you measure performance in FPS-es or response time VM's arent hardware accelerated regardless

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>>107082392
I need your help /g/, I think I'm going insane. I have a cheapo microphone which I use sometimes, it's connected to my pc thanks to an usb y-splitter, I never had any problems with it until today, for some reason my system isn't detecting the mic at all, as if there was no mic connected. I know the mic itself works because I used literally the same setup (mic + y-splitter) on my phone with an otg adapter and it works perfectly fine. As for the input, it does work, I tested a pair of headphones with the same y-splitter, I can hear audio just fine. I'm using Artix Linux and Pipewire, and as I said before I never had any problems with my setup before. Any idea what could be the issue? and yes, I already tested multiple usb ports, pavucontrol shows nothing for "input" no matter what.

>>107087255
>pactl
dont you love potteringware
>>107087399
is it usb? what does lsusb say?

Test.

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I had a bad experience with XFCE on a Raspberry Pi 4 when I was a teenager about half a decade ago. No matter what, it wouldn't stop tearing and my dumbass couldn't figure out whatever "Compton" is supposed to be. And while I know it's kind of a meme on here at this point, does XFCE still tear like crazy nowadays? My current PC is about as safe as it can get; Intel CPU/iGPU that's pretty old, Intel everything really.

I want to go back to Linux from LTSC eventually and I really can't make my mind up on MATE or XFCE. Will probably just be running Debian.

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>Short version
After 20 years of Windows I'll try dual-booting Linux with the idea of maybe permanently switching when I get familiar enough. Any really broad advice you can give me, particularly about dual-booting?
>Long one
Part 1:
I assume that every time some Windows version gets to the end of the support there comes new wave of users trying Linux. This time I'll be one of them... or at least I'll try to. Anyway, I'm not a complete normie that spends in the browser 95% of the time at the PC, but on the other hand I'm not super hard core user and don't use that much proprietary Windows applications. I would say I'm closer to the latter one, but not that far from the middle.
As I said in the short version, after 20 years of using Windows I'm pretty used to it, and I've managed to fight against the bad sides of it to some extent and tame it to some extent. These days I have my daily routine that's not very complex per se, but setting everything up took some time. The thought of starting a new fighting process against Windows 11 is very repelling. If I'm gonna spend time on the new OS, might as well learn Linux. I don't wanna get into specific app and stuff, cause my post isn't about asking for help about the particular problem. I just wanna describe my situation and get some words of wisdom from some of you who went through similar process or witnessed someone else went through it in these threads or anywhere else, really.
I like choices. I like to make things behave and look how I want them to. For example, I liked the amount of options I could tinker with when I switched from Blue Clover to KurobaEx for the mobile app for 4chan. I like that I can disable anything and everything regarding shorts in ReVanced version of YT plus a dozen more smaller improvements. My job isn't in IT, but I attended a lot of IT and IT related classes in my University, so I'm not "afraid of terminal" or completely clueless about OS and how it works. Part 2 is coming in 60 seconds.

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>>107087456
Part 2:
I don't wanna dive head first into Linux immediately, cause I'm sure I won't be able to set everything up in such a short time that I manage to get my daily stuff done. That's why I like the idea of dual-booting: I can finish with the stuff I gotta do for the day in Windows, and then I can spend the rest of the day figuring and getting used to Linux. Or not, if I'm tired for the day and just wanna take it easy. The point is I don't have to hurry, I can prolong that to however many days/weeks/months I need and at some point I can decide if I should abandon Windows completely or whatever else.
I've ordered a new storage for the Linux install, but for better of worse it got stuck in shipping, so it will take a few more days to arrive. In the meantime I've installed Mint on the VM so I can explore it and have a hands on experience with the everything I'm learning from watching videos and reading guides online. Although I haven't done a whole lot, for now it's going okay. There was only one thing I got stuck on for a "long" time (a couple of hours), but I eventually managed to make it mostly the way I like it. I will try to go into the whole journey with an open mind and the thought that I don't need to make everything as close as it is right now on Windows. Maybe the things I like now are not the best ones; it's just that I'm used to them.
When all is said and done, is there any advice you would like to give me or source to point me to? In particular about dual-booting, it's dangers and if the advantages of using it compared to running Linux in VM exceed the disadvantages.

>>107082392
>>107087313

>>107087186
You didn't need checksums to detect bit rot. It's a read error.

>>107087131
It will probably work really well but if there are issues any it's most likely related to the lack of pressure sensitivity.
Photoshop compatibility is more tricky because Apple has paid Adobe to...

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>>107087399 (me)
>As for the input, it does work
*output. I made an ugly drawing to better illustrate what I'm talking about, I hope it makes sense.
>>107087425
The mic itself isn't usb, as I said it's connected to a y-splitter (picrel), which does show up
>Bus 003 Device 005: ID 0d8c:0014 C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter (Unitek Y-247A)

>>107087436
usually tearing has to do with drivers
with amd i believe its pretty much like 5 lines in udev config to turn o vsync or whatever which you can find at arch or gentoo wiki
i doubt you will experience tearing with intel but there are articles for intel as well
>>107087456
>Any really broad advice you can give me
obtain patience
learn how to read english
become one with scary white letters on black background
>I like choices. I like to make things behave and look how I want them to
tiling window managers most of the time support some basic scripting in their config files
they also have plugins and what not and so do non tiling managers

when it comes to actually serious stuff that isnt r/unixporn related as you can imagine every part of the system can be replaced or modified
and i mean EVERY part
its also trivial to add your own functionality with scripts
most FOSS programs either outright have their own support for scripting or work ok with them
>I don't wanna dive head first into Linux immediately
do manual arch installation (without script)
even if you arent intend on using arch, you can use VM
that well teach you absolute basics
>is there any advice you would like to give me or source to point me to?
arch and gentoo wiki
some of the best wiki's ive ever seen
>it's dangers and if the advantages of using it compared to running Linux in VM exceed the disadvantages
i wouldnt use microsoft products, i just dont trust that company on a technical and ideological level
but thats my shit

VM is good for learning, you can save states and stuff and its easy to start over
also you can simulate your "migration"
the only issue is its virtual hardware so it wont prepare you for hardware issues
and if you decide to use VM you wont have access to hardware related functionality of FOSS ecosystem (like smartctl or i2c for example or linux kernel having build in drivers for the most random shit like esp8266)
also your keyboard input is going through the host 1/2

>>107087456
>Any really broad advice you can give me, particularly about dual-booting?
instead of dual booting (which is painful and crappy), and if you want to move to linux soon, I recommend installing Mint or whatever distro you want to use in a VM and try finding replacements for all the programs you currently need. install them and get comfy with the new system, learn the differences and stuff.
also, before installing linux, check the compatilibity of your system. make sure to test it from live USBs or whatever.
after getting used to the VM, make a list of every program you've installed and install the real thing, but only after either making a backup of everything you have in your system or getting a new SSD to install linux. if you get another SSD, make sure to remove the Windows drive to avoid overwriting WIndows.

>>107087468
ok, I see you've already done some of the stuff I suggested, and I guess I already answered some of your questions. cool.

>>107087468
2/2 system which is windows if that bothers you at all
>>107087617
some fucky alsa/pipewire/pulseaudio settings?

Fedora is way more professional than Mint. That's all.

>>107087632
Mac just works.

I'm actually having doubts that this has anything to do with no 3D support in a VM

https://pastebin.com/aYD3M6pp

On the other hand, I saw a Vulkan-related error when starting the launcher. Not the game, the launcher!

is nixos fun to thinker to? I used to be an arch noob not long ago, but it turned out that using arch is actually quite easy

>>107087562
Not if it returns garbage data and you don't realise it's garbage it isn't

>>107087468
has same situation 6 months ago

long story short - NOBARA linux https://nobaraproject.org/download-nobara/

3 months without Windows

>>107087456
The other anon already mentioned the VM.
Other than that, since you like having things just the way you want them, you'll probably hit the DE wall at some point so know you're not limited to a prepackaged DE and can always join the tinker crowd and use a WM instead. They're (much) more of a pain to set up but can't be beat in how much they let you customise stuff.

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>>107087632
>>107087654
>it's a dac
Huh TIL I guess, for me it's just the "adapter to connect both a mic and a pair of headphones to another device" thingy. Terminology aside, I never had any issues with it in the past, and afaik I haven't changed anything related to audio in my system, unless Artix or Pipewire fucked up something without me knowing. Also, I tried connecting the thing through the usb-c port on my pc and that doesn't work either. So yeah, some weird shit is going on that only affects the mic.

>>107087222
XD

>>107087627
>when it comes to actually serious stuff that isnt r/unixporn related as you can imagine every part of the system can be replaced or modified
>and i mean EVERY part
Jesus fucking Christ... I've heard about ricing before, but didn't know it goes to this extent. I'm definitely not gonna go to that extents, but just seeing what possibilities are makes me excited.
>do manual arch installation (without script)
I'm a little bit scared of Arch. From my very limited time learning about Linux distros, I've got the impression that with Arch you're not learning how to use Linux distro, you're building it yourself from the ground up. I'm not sure if I'm up to that task, it might filter me before I get it down.
>i wouldnt use microsoft products, i just dont trust that company on a technical and ideological level
>VM is good for learning
>2/2 system which is windows if that bothers you at all
I understand your hate for Windows. Putting it simply, I'm just too much of a pussy to immediately go balls deep and nuke Windows completely. That's why I like the idea of having training wheels in the shape of using VM or dual-boot.
You praised VM to some extent and also explained me about it's limitations. Does that and the fact that you didn't mention dual-boot at all mean that you're much more for the idea of using VM instead of dual-booting?
Thanks for all the advice, I appreciate it!

>>107087629
>instead of dual booting (which is painful and crappy)
Even if it's on the separate drives? Also: yeah, a lot of stuff you mentioned I already started, but definitely thanks for all the tips and advice, I really appreciate it!
>>107087753
>you'll probably hit the DE wall at some point so know you're not limited to a prepackaged DE and can always join the tinker crowd and use a WM instead
That's the long term goal. For now I'll try to limit myself to just basic stuff and focus more about setting all the functionalities and the apps up and running. That's also why I'm afraid of Arch. Plus, I feel like that the faster I get it running and the more time I end up spending with any Linux distro, the greater chances are that I'm just gonna ditch Windows completely, instead of sticking to dual boot.
>>107087747
>3 months without Windows
X amount of time without Windows... I see posts like this a lot these days, cause I'm watching basic Linux videos, and it always looks so amusing to me. Like a drunkard being sober for some time or junkie being clean and rediscovering life. I understand that not all of the videos showing people happily transitioning are not true, some of them do go back for various reasons, but a lot of times it's for the reason that for me, personally, are not a problem. Usually it's gaming (I'm not gonna game much with integrated GPU kek) or Windows-only software. For the second problem there usually is a open source alternative, Wine, or if nothing else running Windows in VM.
Thanks for the recommendation, I appreciate it!

>>107087948
>Even if it's on the separate drives?
I mean, you can try it. eventually you'll get tired of having to reboot every fucking time you want to do something, of having to reinstall grub because Windows removed it for the 10000000000th time, or to fix whatever other problem you had.

>>107087956
I do have 2 more External drives with 2TB each that I pretty much never unplug from the front IO (used mainly for movies, shows and other documents). Could it help me bridge the gap between the two systems, if I can use them as some form of a "shared space" or is that just a recipe for disaster?

>>107087456
>After 20 years of Windows I'll try dual-booting Linux with the idea of maybe permanently switching when I get familiar enough. Any really broad advice you can give me, particularly about dual-booting?
Back up your shit before making major changes to any of your existing installations. If you fucked up the partitions or whatever, you're going to feel like killing yourself if you didn't have everything backed up. So just do it.
I'm personally not really a fan of ricing my desktop, or whatever. I prefer something that just looks/feels decent out of the box. But it sounds like you enjoy tinkering in general. If that's the case, you'd probably enjoy using Linux. Not because you HAVE to tinker on Linux, necessarily- but because it gives you the option to do so, far more than any other OS out there.
I also did the same thing you did, where I started with dual booting. Eventually I decided to switch to just using Linux, while running Windows in a VM (if needed).

>>107088004
Okay, ignore me, I can just simply access all the files on the Windows storage from the Linux.

>>107087945
>with Arch you're not learning how to use Linux distro
no arch is "DIY" system
but the manual installation process will teach you all the basics of how and what and where to install and what is responsible for what
that would be enough for basic troubleshooting and what not and will give you some basic idea of how your system works
so what im advising is to not use arch but to just try and install it as a practice
>Putting it simply, I'm just too much of a pussy to immediately go balls deep and nuke Windows completely
what you are doing is the most reasonable aproach for someone without comsci education or selfeducation
i can do that because i have experience with computers but the rest of the population needs to do exactly what you are doing
>Does that and the fact that you didn't mention dual-boot at all mean that you're much more for the idea of using VM instead of dual-booting?
personal preference honestly
im mostly praising VM for learning how to do stuff, but for heavy or specialized use it sucks horse balls
just the fact that you need to passthrough your usb ports alone is very annoying

since you've bought separate storage its reasonable to use that for linux distro or other FOSS systems, at the very least just so you can have redundant operating system on your PC if your windows install gets bricked or compromised
just unmount this disk in windows partition program or whatever so that you dont accidentally click it and format it (since microsoft refuses to adopt modern standards that are literally used everywhere like ext4 filesystem for example)

>>107088032
and you can access the linux files from Windows, though that's a bit harder than accessing Windows files from LInux

>>107087436
>XFCE
I tried XFCE recently and it did have screen tearing, but I fixed it pretty quickly doing some X11 tweaking. You can follow the beginning of this guide for that (ignore the rest, it's unrelated), but keep in mind you'll need either Xlibre or the git version of X11. I use amd, so idk how's XFCE anywhere else, ymmv but it's worth a shot.
https://gist.github.com/guiodic/2bcc8f2f126d14b1f8a439f644fdc2c9
Other than that, I think it's a good enough desktop environment. I didn't use it as much as others so I don't have a strong opinion on it.
>MATE
I made a short post about it not too long ago
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106970632/#106984735
Personally I really liked it, it's basically gnome2 so if you like that sort of environment then you might like it, just keep in mind it may lack some modern features you can find in other DE. If you're okay with that then I think it's a solid option as well, just try either of them in a VM or spare pc and see how it goes.

Best distro to boot from an 8gb USB 2.0 drive and load into a laptop with 8GB of ram and a 9th gen intel i7? I'd like for all hardware to work out of the box if possible, it's got a 1050ti and an intel wireless card.
I just want to watch Youtube and shitpost, bonus points if it includes jewish DRM to watch netflix and HBO but not a deal breaker if it doesn't that's probably asking a lot in something that fits in 8gb of RAM these days.

>>107088021
>Back up your shit... just do it.
Will do, I'll make a backup image of the whole system.
>Eventually I decided to switch to just using Linux, while running Windows in a VM (if needed).
That's the plan for me as well, let's see how it goes.
Thanks!
>>107088066
>so what im advising is to not use arch but to just try and install it as a practice
Oh, I see. Just getting it installed properly is a feat in itself... that's not helping my fear of it...
Okay, jk, jk, I get what you mean. That sounds reasonable enough, I might try to do that.
>just unmount this disk in windows partition program or whatever so that you dont accidentally click it and format it
I'll keep this in mind, I haven't seen this yet. The only similar advice I remember is about unplugging the SSD with Windows on it before installing Linux, so I don't accidentally select the wrong storage to format and install Linux to.
Thanks again!
>>107088147
I'm not sure if I should trust Windows with that one, plus I assume it won't work if in Windows I unmount the Linux drive. Nevertheless, thanks for the info!

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>>107086410
>Bit rot is a meme
It's definitely real, people just don't see it because most filesystems don't have checksumming. Failing RAM and disks cause it. They can fail in such a way that the computer will keep working for years and you won't notice a thing until you open the corrupted file.

>>107088229
>The only similar advice I remember is about unplugging the SSD with Windows on it before installing Linux, so I don't accidentally select the wrong storage to format and install Linux to.
you will have to add windows to your linux distro bootloader afterwards if you do that if you want to be able to choose between systems in your bootloader menu
but then again, pressing F8 (or whatever is the key for boot menu in your BIOS) when you are booting your computer is less complicated (be that a bit more inconvenient)
>I'm not sure if I should trust Windows with that one
this is usually done with 3rd party software
and the only one that ive seen my colleagues use is kinda mid (though it does its job of reading the filesystem and thats all that we needed from it)

I'm running Fedora KDE off a USB stick right now as a trial.

What's this about third party repositories? Do you guys not just install software from the internet? Surely you don't just use dnf/apt for everything?

>>107088297
That's how Linux works. There's no general need to install things off random websites.

>>107088229
>>I'm not sure if I should trust Windows with that one
what >>107088291 said
>this is usually done with 3rd party software
you have multiple options, and all of them (I think) require especial 3rd party Windows drivers:
https://www.techgainer.com/how-to-mount-and-access-linux-partitions-ext4ext3ext2-in-windows-explorer-easily/
https://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/

>>107088297
Everything is on the AUR.
We got it all, even malware.

>>107088297
we use everything for everything
github, package manager, appimages, flatpaks, gnu ftp website, you name it

a big advantage of knowing how to read and understanding what you are doing is you dont need to be trained like a fucking dog by massive corporations to perform specific tasks which purpose and inner workings are beyond your comprehension
you can just do things to solve problems and be able to fix things if they go wrong

>>107088300
So if I know the specific software I want, how should I get it? For example, I've got a Proton Unlimited subscription, and I'd like to install both Pass and VPN. On Windows, I'd just download them with my browser. How do I figure out how to get them here? If I were to just use my browser, would it cause me problems later? What if I want something I can't get from an official source, like some MPEG codecs I don't have a license for?

>>107088350
not him but
you go on their official website/github page/their git page and you read nicely put instructions on how to install them and you follow these instructions
or if you suspect that your distribution has these programs you do

 sudo packagemanager searchflag  programname 

or you go on your distro's wiki and see if it has an article about your software and the exact package name you need
or you go to your distro's website with package index and searth the program there
or you just literally try to type in program name with the package manager command
or you go on google and search "distroname programname"
or you ask chatgpt
or you go on flatpak website and search here
or you go on an appimage website and search here

>>107088350
I try to use my distro's repo if I can. If it isn't there then github and flatpak in that order.

>>107088297
Every release of every Linux distro is a different OS with a different ABI. If you want to download libraries for any program to use, like codecs, they have to be built for the distro release you're using. Thus 3rd party repos. On Fedora the only one most people need is rpmfusion.

>>107088425
i dont think its entirely true
releases have different versions of kernel and libraries yes, but the dependency hell is more complex then just "different number so no work no more"
thats not exactly how it works

New to Linux. Went with Mint. I have most of what I was using while on w10. Pinta is pretty good alternative to Paint.Net although the replace tool doesn't work the same way. Overall, I like Linux Mint so far and don't think I'll return to Windows.

My only real issue is I can't wake the pc up properly after suspension. The monitor stays dark or doesn't switch back on and usually the keyboard is also off.
I've found several threads on the Linux Mint forum, some answers looked promising but none worked out, even the hacky ones. I also tried asking AI.
I also tried adding a keyboard shortcut to switch the monitor back on(xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode 1920x1080) but I don't think the keyboard is on(I input the password, press enter, then my shortcut keys).
Does anyone know what issue I'm running into? I'm using propitiatory gpu drivers. 960. 4k monitor but it's set to 1k. Log in screen remains in 4k until I log in. I did fix that issue before but when I reverted to a previous Timeshift I lost it.

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It turns out it is possible to get Picom to work with mate-terminal in WindowMaker, but only in new windows. Now the question is, how do I get Picom to start automatically?

>>107088460
It's a gross-oversimplification because programming languages make it more difficult than it ought to be. C is quite simple but go and lookup all the different rules for maintaining ABI with C++ and its name mangling and all the many things that will inadvertently cause it to break by accident.

>>107088604
You need to set the resolution in Xorg.conf

>>107088763
there should be an autostart file somewhere

>>107088879
Yeah, I found a collection of Autostart "Scripts" that can be enabled or disabled. Guess I'll have to make one for Picom

yt-dlp requires a full-blown JavaScript runtime now:
https://github.com/yt-dlp/ejs/

Great job, YouTube.

>>107088914
https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/issues/14404

>>107088914
>>107088920
Man it would be nice if Google tried as hard as they did with changing the UI and shit for no reason and instead made downloading/watching videos easier. Though at least with this shit all you need is deno.exe in the same folder where yt-dlp.exe is (along with ffmpeg.exe) and it'll work fine.

>>107089032
There's no deno packaged for Musl libc on Gentoo though, which is annoying, but apparently it can run with bun or nodejs too so I'm trying with net-libs/nodejs. It's weird that Gentoo maintainers would push a -bin package. Hopefully they get deno packaged properly. Alpine and Arch have it.

>>107089032
>.exe
where do you think you are?

When I play games on Steam I get weird crunchy audio every once in a while. It will be going normally and then it will be a *CHHNNK* sound randomly. Is anyone familiar with this issue? How fix?

>>107089121
hw?

>>107089127
Like everything? Or just specific parts? It's Linux mint. I have a 7800x3d and a 1660 ti ventus.

>>107089132
that's enough.
are you running your ram overclocked? you can try going back to default to rule out infinity fabric.

>>107089144
Unless it's overclocked by default then no.

Could it be the fact that I didn't do a BIOS update when I built the pc?

>>107089149
You should probably update the bios however it's unlikely to fix your issue.

>>107089121
Are you using a monitor DAC or just your motherboard's Realtek chip?

Newfag Bazzite zoomer here, can someone explain the differences between Flatpak, Appimage, Snap and all that stuff (and why do so many exist)? Can (any of) these fuck up my install? Can they be backed up? Do they install in sane locations or is it up to the dev?

>>107089186
Flatpak and Snap are basically containerized/sandboxed versions of typical Linux binaries, as in everything that the binary needs is included in this container format. You change their config via ~/.var (for Flatpak) and ~/.snap (for Snap).
AppImage is basically like an .exe file in Windows. Similar to Flatpak/Snap but isn't containerized. You can use tools like AppImageLauncher to integrate them into typical program menus.

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>>107089186
>(and why do so many exist)?

>>107089203
Beat me to it.

>>107089167
Just whatever is on the motherboard like I always have, but I never had this issue on windows,

>>107089186
Canonical needed a containerised package format for their now-dead phone project (Ubuntu Touch) so Snaps (previously click packages) were born.

Some Freedesktop developers were independently working on their own format but for desktops only and so Flatpak (previously XDG App) was born.

Some other developers thought Microsoft's method of making everyone go to a website to download an executable is the pinnacle of software distribution but also thought Apple's .app format was a good idea and so came up with their own SquashFS based format that's also an executable.

And that's why we have multiple different standards, different people solving the same problem for their own needs in different ways.

>>107088860
What do you mean? The resolution is working when I'm logged in.

>>107089345
For it to persist properly. Your login manager doesn't use those same scripts as your desktop session.

You could also just duplicate the xrandr command in whatever scripts your login manager happens to source.

>>107087635
Fedora just approved AI-assisted coding. I suppose it's "more professional" in that it's taking a page from Microsoft.

>>107089353
I tried doing something like that earlier today:
1. sudo nano /usr/local/bin/lightdm-resolution.sh

2. xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode 1920x1080

3. sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/lightdm-resolution.sh
4. A few more steps to save it and what not.
Ended up with the log in screen being black, had to load a back up.

>>107089463
Try:

xrandr --auto

does that also cause a black screen? I'm not really sure why your script would cause that.

>>107089470
Won't that auto to 4k?
When I use a short cut to xrandr --output HDMI-0 --auto as a shortcut it set it to 4k.

>>107089479
Yes, just do it to see if it runs properly without crashing. Maybe it doesn't like setting the output to 1080p for some reason, or perhaps you're hitting a driver bug.

>>107089487
Alright, I'll try. Last time I did:
4.sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
5.[Seat:*]
display-setup-script=/usr/local/bin/lightdm-resolution.sh
Then restarted and I could no longer log in.

>>107088220
Aurora

>>107089186
>Do they install in sane locations or is it up to the dev?
Appimage doesn't install anywhere. It's a self-contained program. The appimage itself is effectively like a portable .exe file on Windows, you just double click it to run it. I think Bazzite has some Appimage installer/updater tool (Gear Lever?) which lets you "install" appimages (move them all in the same location and pin them to your start menu).
Flatpak install location depends on how it's set up. On Bazzite I believe they give you the option of "system" and "user" install, which will determine where it's installed. You can create custom install locations if you want, but install locations don't share their dependencies so it would take up more space unless all your flatpaks are installed in the same location.

>Can they be backed up?
If you're asking about the actual software itself, yes. Appimage is the "backup" since it's a self-contained program. Flatpaks can be backed up manually, but if they rely on a specific set of flatpak dependencies you have to also back those up.
If you're asking about user data, also yes. Flatpak data is easy to back up since it's literally there in your home directory in a hidden folder (.var/app). Each application has it's own data folder which you can just copy between devices. As for Appimages, these would entirely depend on how the developer set it up. Usually the data will be somewhere in your home directory, likely in a hidden folder.

>Snaps
Snaps are Ubuntu's Flatpak equivalent which is less popular. They're irrelevant to you since you're on Bazzite. What's going to be more relevant is your Distrobox GUI which will let you install packages from other distros. For example, if some app is only distributed as a .deb or .rpm.

>>107089487
Yeah, it was black. When I rebooted it was a lit black screen with a typing cursor in the top right corner that didn't print anything when I typed. Booted from the flashdrive again to restore and earlier Timeshift.

>>107089441
You don't know what you talking about.
Final responsibility for human. Not ai.
Tell us what distro denied ai-help by policy?!
None.
Take your pills

>>107089781
Nobody will deny AI assisted code because it's impossible to know if code was written or assisted by AI. Not to mention it's a slippery slope which, when taken to it's logical extreme, would also block code suggestions, auto-correct and code snippets/templates which were all there before AI.

>>107089441
An AI is just a significantly more "intelligent" word suggestion or auto-correct engine, so it's ultimately a tool. Only unemployed children who get their news from dramatubers would think using AI is problematic.

>>107085745
btrfs for docker and lxd has a big advantage, they make use of subvolumes so everything is a lot more efficient.

>>107089199
>>107089225
>>107089691
Thanks for the answers, frens. So, to clarify, backing up my home folder (including the hidden files) should cover everything? I'm asking this specifically because I've used Debian before and some of the stuff I installed went in various nested places like /etc/ or /var/ and it was really shitty to keep track of.
Also, is it safe to assume some devs release their software in some of these formats without checking if it actually works? I've had stuff, for example, not run correctly in Flatpak form because of missing permissions, but it was fine as an AppImage.

>>107089914
Your home is where all your user-centric config is stored within dotfile folders like .config. When it comes to Flatpaks working it's usually best if the flatpak was created by the actual devs and not a rando.

>>107086389
Older version of the kernel, not the data.

Mint would be my favorite distro if it had a Wayland DE.
Because I have 2 monitors and like playing games X11 simply doesn't work well.

What are the most well supported and popular distros that ship vanilla packages from upstream?

>open librecalc
>loads
>doesn't open
Thanks ubuntu...

Fedora or Tumbleweed which is more reliable?

>>107090380
feedweed

>>107090214
sudo apt install labwc

>>107090399
and alacritty too sorry

>>107090289
Arch

>>107090489
Not Arch

>>107090380
Fedora, they're more selective of what they update. I guess TW Slowroll might be similar in practice.

>decided to try to migrate my dev psql in vm to alma from debian
>install psql from their repos
>services don't autostart, pointless for psql but sometimes can be very nice
>psql placed it's confs in /var rather than /etc, weird but fine
>fast-forward to today
>service failed to start
>check logs
>can't create socket in /run/postgresql because directory doesn't fucking exist
>double check debian
>directory exists, owned by psql, probably auto created on boot
>change it to /tmp for now in alma
How the fuck is this considered server distro? Fucking PSQL just broke after first reboot and required manual intervention.

>>107090334
figured it out, mismatch between user profile and the what libre thought the user profile was, which is weird that libre even checks user desu.

>>107090668
Try rocky.

Why won't wine exes launch when I double click them in xubuntu?

>>107090668
it's not exactly the distro's fault it has different conventions and you're finding out the hard way.

>>107090776
?
it's the same

>>107090804
Is the wine service that handles this running?

>>107090824
Shouldn't it boot on double click? It works when I left-click wine launcher and wine launcher is set as default.

What's an actual nice font?
all the fonts I tried so far are cancer for the eyes

if I use xcfe do I have to use Thunar or can I use Nautilus?

>>107090864
You can use whatever you want with any DE pretty much but it might not look like the other software

>>107090856
I'm partial to IBM Plex Sans Condensed.

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>>107090851
Ok I think I know what's going on here. Wine normally sets up an association with systemd-binfmt. I think it's safe to assume Xubuntu does not have the wine file for binfmt installed alongside wine. Either that or you haven't started the systemd-binfmt.service service or haven't restarted since installing wine. Could be that too.

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>>107090978
thanks

>>107090804
chmod +x filename.exe

Tried CachyOS yesterday.
It's the same shit as with every other fork: way too much shit pre-installed (seriously, they install nano, micro, vi, some other editor, and vim, but NOT neovim, which is the only one I need), the GUI installer doesn't allow you to change shit and CLI-installer is broken. Their Hyprland config is very opinionated and doesn't use the Hyrpland best practices either.
Still, I like their optimizations, so I added their repos to my Arch install.

>>107090995
>>107090824
What's the difference compared to running them by calling wine? I never had to do any of this on my machine.

>>107091037
Double clicking your exe is more convenient, that's literally the only difference.

>>107091042
Isn't that possible to do by a .desktop file? I feel like there's something I'm not understanding here

>>107091035
>Still, I like their optimizations, so I added their repos to my Arch install.
1% has been added to your unreal world benchmark

>>107091067
I mean, 1% is better than 0%.
If they give me Gentoo optimisations without me having to compile shit, I'm here for it.
Too bad my home PC and server are Zen3, though.

>>107091057
I don't really know all the limitations or downsides of a desktop file since I don't use them, but even if it worked exactly the same which I am pretty sure wouldn't be the case with a .desktop file, it's infinitely easier to just use the binfmt thing for which wine has support.

Any recommendations of themes that can use matugen colors and look the same in GTK3/4 and qt5/6ct?

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>>107090995
>I think it's safe to assume Xubuntu does not have the wine file for binfmt installed alongside wine. Either that or you haven't started the systemd-binfmt.service service or haven't restarted since installing wine.
I've restarted since wine installed and I have systemd-bintmt.service, now if its actually working? I have no idea how to read this.

>>107091501 (Me)
Weirdly enough, I have 1 game that is double click executable but for some reason the other game isn't. Hmmm.

>>107088460
Like other Anon said it's an oversimplification, but new users should act as though it's the case because it's smarter than making a frankendebian.

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What's the current year preferred single player Quake application? vkQuake?

I'm getting an rpgmaker error for audio/se in wine, would download the japanese font packs help? I'm trying to figure out if I'm actually missing a file or if maybe one of the 4 songs that were incoded improperly are the problem.

>>107091608
vkQuake and Ironwail, those two are the current best.
Ironwail is basically the most optimized OpenGL port while vkQuake is still the best Vulkan experience.

>>107091608
Sell me on it.
I started playing when Q3: Arena was a thing and still play Quake3e from time to time, but online is dead.

>>107091501
There's a package called something like wine-binfnt on Debian and Ubuntu. You got that installed? At least it was in the repos when I searched.

>>107091580
Also this >>107091024
Inconsistent behaviour might be that.

>>107091677
>wine-binfnt
I mean https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=wine-binfmt

>>107091677
>>107091687
How do I check?

>>107091630
Installing Noto JCK fonts is always a good idea on any distro.

>>107090856
Ubuntu

>>107091645
Right. Any point in using OpenGL over Vulkan?
>>107091667
There's no relation to Quake 3 Arena. Case you want to play it you need to pirate PAK0.PAK and PAK1.PAK files.

>>107089914
>backing up my home folder (including the hidden files) should cover everything?
It would carry over your user data and settings. And it would also carry over your appimages. It would not carry over your system-wide config files or system-wide installed packages, including system-wide installed Flatpaks. If you want your installed flatpaks to carry over (as in, the actual program and not just your user data) you need to installed them at a user level. Last time I checked Bazzite allowed a choice between "system" and "user" installs, but I'm not sure if that's still the case.

>stuff I installed went in various nested places like /etc/ or /var/ and it was really shitty to keep track of.
I'm not sure if it's relevant where packages are installed as long as your data/configs are all in your home directory.

>Also, is it safe to assume some devs release their software in some of these formats without checking if it actually works? I've had stuff, for example, not run correctly in Flatpak form because of missing permissions, but it was fine as an AppImage.
The people who package Flatpaks generally test if things work, but they make an assumption that you know that Flatpak permissions exist. For example, your messaging apps will often only be able to access your Pictures and Videos by default (as that's decided by packagers/devs) so it's up to you to manually give it access to other file paths if you want to drag-drop images.
There isn't anything wrong with this, in fact that's how it's done on Android/iOS. The only difference is that a Flatpak will not prompt you to give it permissions when permissions are blocked. It will just fail without telling you why. If this is a pain point for you, you can just use your system settings or Flatseal to enable all permissions for every single app. This will remove all the "annoying" security guardrails and turn Flatpak into just a package manager.

>>107091735
I don't see that in winetricks

>>107091789
Vulkan is the newer renderer but OpenGL still works fine. Get both Ironwail and vkQuake and play with both of them, see which one you like the feel of best.

>>107091726
Use the package manager of your distro however it's meant to be used? I'm on Arch and I never used a distro that isn't Arch, I don't really know how to use apt.

>>107088763
Does adding

picom &

to your

.xinitrc

work?

>>107091677
I tried chmod +x and it didn't change, now that makes me think what's the difference between terminal emulator and xcfe terminal

>>107091931
The xfce terminal is a terminal emulator. For XFCE, predictably enough.

>>107091945
Then what is the terminal emulator for? Terminal? Why add "emulator" at the end?

>>107091971
Now you're getting into computing history, buddy. If you want to know what a real terminal is, google "computer terminal" and read the shit that you find.

>>107091971
They should call it a terminal VM because nobody ever made a physical terminal with 24-bit sixels and all the other crazy shit 'emulators' do now.

>>107091999
make an amsr computer history video form ne to fall asleep too.

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>>107091971
A terminal emulator emulates this thing

>>107092257
Okay, but why not just call it a Terminal now? Why does emulation have to be part of it if we aren't on work stations anymore?

>>107091608
For me it's ChadQuake. Looks perfectly accurate to the original software mode rendering plus scaling options, which is all I wanted. Every other sourceport I tried had something wrong with it visually, intentionally or otherwise.

>>107090808
If RHEL family doesn't allow that then why valkey crates /run/valkey just fine? I refuse to believe psql packagers messed up especially knowing that Debian works fine.

>>107092422
The same reason they call it a Super Nintendo emulator even though they haven't been making Super Nintendo about as long. You still program it with opcodes for some machine that no longer exists rather than host native API calls.

>>107090668
Run your web shit stack in Docker for easy rollbacks when shit goes wrong.

>>107093149
I don't care about it breaking, but seeing such shit makes me question whether Alma is really enterprise distro.

>>107093178
This kind of thing happens on every distro all the time. You're really not supposed to update your database except for security upgrades and even then you better schedule an entire day off to make sure it works right.

Is there a Distro that is designed to be used in a VM setting in order to cheat on exams?

I'm aware that I can enable a Linux vm to look legit in the eyes of the browser software, just wondering if there is any distro that streamlines the process.

If there are any guides on the matter that you can recommend I'd also love to read them.

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>>107089044
I've confirmed it works with Nodejs instead of Deno, at least the tests pass. Here's my Gentoo based Dockerfile for making a lightweight yt-dlp container. I have become a bit addicted to making custom Gentoo based images for things.

This is my base-image I use an SDK:
https://pastebin.com/raw/tb4PjLiu

docker build --build-context binpkgs="$XDG_CACHE_HOME/gentoo-dockerfiles-binpkgs" -f Dockerfile.gentoo-base -t local/stage3:musl --progress=plain .

It has zlib-ng[compat] instead of Zlib, Wget2 used by default to fetch distfiles instead of Wget and Go, Rust and Nodejs included as well as Git, Gentoolkit and smart-live-rebuild.

And my image for building yt-dlp with this SDK:
https://pastebin.com/raw/SHng1kkk

docker build --build-context binpkgs="$XDG_CACHE_HOME/gentoo-dockerfiles-binpkgs" -f Dockerfile.gentoo-yt-dlp -t local/yt-dlp:musl --progress=plain .

>>107093178
CentOS is technically still an option if you want RHEL-like.
https://www.centos.org/download/

>>107093566
Just noticed it wasn't stripping node_modules properly from INSTALL_MASK so I fixed that and it's down to 407 MB now. You won't get that on Debian if you install yt-dlp, Python, Nodejs and Ffmpeg.

I have 2x2TB NVMe and I have Gentoo install with BTRFS on one of them. I then just created an empty BTRFS partition for the other drive and mount it as a /mnt/data subvolume. Should I have instead added the drive to the existing BTRFS system? Is there any benefit in expanding the existing system instead of having a separate data drive?

>>107094018
Also, noticed I have static *.a libs which I don't need from Musl libc. I wish Dive would have caught that. 374 MB is probably as light as it gets for something with big dependencies on Node, Python and Ffmpeg.

>>107094340
Unless you want a mirror for redundancy there's no benefit to adding it to the existing setup.

>>107094694
>>107094340
Basically you would need at least 3x2TB drives or more for it to be worthwhile adding it to the existing drive and converting it to a RAID 1 or whatever.

What you're doing now is fine for data / bulk storage.

>>107093589
rhel-like would be rocky linux

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>>107087399
>>107087617
>>107087792
Me again, I managed to "fix" it. I still don't know what caused the problem, all I know is Pipewire/Wireplumber was being retarded and didn't want to accept input from my adapter/mic, so I ended up writing a wireplumber script which calls a shell script that executes a command that fixes the problem. It's hacky but it works, pavucontrol and other programs do recognize my mic now. God I hate Linux sometimes.

>>107094721
redhat shills hate it when you talk about rocky

>>107094981
Because it's RHEL for free. The same reason they hate Oracle Linux which is also still technically an option if you really hate yourself.

I'm lonely and sad what's a Linux OS for this feel?

>>107091971
a terminal emulator emulates a terminal which in turn emulates a teletype.

>>107095148
Qubes or Tails

>>107095148
Anti-X so you can go to meets and join a fat malgendered polycule

>>107088021
don't dualboot from one drive.
get a second one for linux and boot from there.

>>107095148
Debian so you can go to the annual Debian foundation meetup and be friends with the fat mystery meats

While my PC is still sadly chained to Windows, my laptop doesn't have to be hence I am looking into buying a Tuxedo laptop with Ubuntu.
Anyone have any opinions on their quality/service etc?

>>107095214
They're quite overpriced.

>have bad ram and don’t realize it for awhile
>try to update to new debian
>bricks because bad ram
>can’t fix it
>switch to windows for the time being to take a break from Linux
>get into a privacy schizo kick again and want to go back to Linux
Someone talk me out of wading back into this miry hellpit

>>107094694
>>107094720
Figured as much, cheers.

People give GNOME a lot of shit but I have to admit that it's actually pretty decent for OEMs. I wish you could just install KDE distros for people and let them set up their own stuff.

>>107095214
Just buy distro certified hardware from Dell, HP, Lenovo, ... They all have some.

>>107095437
GNOME is only hated by tinkertrannies or people who haven't used it more than 15 minutes.

I have a HP shittop which came with Winshit10. It has/had an ambient brightness control which worked pretty nicely in Win10 - but doesn't automatically work in Arch/sway. Anyone know how I get it working?

>>107084852
ah okay, learning all of this is overwhelming lol

>>107095284
Stop being poor and buy new RAM. Enough to boot a Linux system should be cheap, though gaymin will be more rigorous.

>>107095491
It doesn't even have basic functionality like a system tray without third-extensions.

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>>107082392
Help me decide between Kubuntu and Fedora KDE anons. I'll be doing mostly video editing with Kdenlive, so I thought I might as well use the whole KDE desktop (though I'm open to use another desktop environment/distro flavor). I already got some experience with Arch, but I'm looking for something stable (as in stuff doesn't break, so no more "mom cancel all my meetings, pacman broke my xorg conf again"), good software support and preferably works ootb or needs minimal tinkering. Is wayland good now? I'll be doing screen recording and last time I checked there was some issues with OBS, I'm using ayymd btw. I don't need shilling for other distros, just help deciding between these two, the pros and cons for each one since I have no experience with either of them.

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>>107095437
>>107095491

>>107095722
Kubuntu, I loaded up Fedora KDE onto ventoy and it just didn't work. I don't know why, I don't know if its because my USB wasn't the correct memory format for the iso but I was too lazy to troubleshoot it, same thing with Temple OS and Debian, I couldn't get them to work for w/e

Is there any magical reason why Fedora 43 / XFCE4 turns off my screen when it's supposed to display screensaver? I have disabled every power saving feature from the settings.

>>107095560
retards that use linux for the first time should stick to Desktop Environments

>>107095894
What about retards who use linux for the second or 3rd time?

>>107095966
they should still use a DE, tbqh. I've been troonix user for 3 years and i still use a DE. i don't like to tinker too much

>>107095676
>installing an extension is difficult

>>107095722
>but I'm looking for something stable (as in stuff doesn't break
Aurora or Fedora Kinoite

>>107095966
Everyone should use a DE

>>107095894
ah fuck you nigger
i asked a legit question in the thread meant for noobs like me
fuck off

>>107096181
sorry bud but you asked an easily googable question that has lots of results. not many like to play tech support

>>107096181
Sorry bud, but that's part of the linux experience. Maybe stick to windows ;)

Coming from Windows. Thought I'd try Fedora. Literally the second application I installed, using their official instructions, kept crashing seconds after starting.

Mint seems to work. I like the idea of Fedora more, but I guess I have to opt for stability if the world isn't going to take anything but Windows seriously.

How feasible would it be to use Mint most of the time, but keep a Windows VM for when I need compatibility, and a Fedora VM for when I need bleeding edge?

>>107096545
>Literally the second application I installed, using their official instructions, kept crashing seconds after starting.
>Mint seems to work
This is the dumbest reason to distro hop. 'just reinstall lol' is not a viable way to troubleshoot application issues.
>How feasible would it be to use Mint most of the time, but keep a Windows VM
Depends on your hardware and how much you need GPU in Windows.

just finished setting up VGA pass through on my trusty Debian workstation. It's been more than 5 years since I did this. Let's see how long I last

>>107096545
what do you need "bleeding edge" for? Most people can work with hardware and software from 10+years ago and they wouldnt notice the difference.
If mint works why use anything else? And yes you can use a vm for windows, what would be the problem here?

>>107096580
>This is the dumbest reason to distro hop.
I don't see how. My understanding is that the purpose of package-manager-centric installation model is so that you can get things working more easily, because you don't need to resolve dependencies yourself.

The first distro I tried, I picked for modernity. The second application I installed on it didn't work. I spent two hours trying to make it work. It entirely defeated the purpose of the package manager on just the second application. Even ignoring the things I knew were Windows-only, I was starting with only a 50% success rate.

Mint's purported advantage is things "just working" due to stability. It was the second distro I tried, because of the specific problem I had with the first. It solved that problem. Where's the fault in that logic?

>>107096045
It is when it breaks every other version of GNOME and potential causes instability. Core features should be part of GNOME. You should never expect someone to have to go and install some random extension or Tweaks app for core functionality.

>>107096745
He's saying you should have fixed the instability instead of caving to Baby's first distro.

What even was the app? Which instructions did you use and with what version of Fedora and what hardware and software?

>>107096955
iirc this is why ublue used to add the extensions as RPMs, so they'd track GNOME and not break

>>107096986
It's basically the only way to maintain it properly I imagine (as long as you make sure that the RPM tracks GNOME properly so it's a dependency conflict to update GNOME without the extension also being updated).

I think GNOME used to disable all extensions after an update anyway though (not a great UX since you notice immediately all the missing features and functionality but at least it won't crash).

>>107096979
I probably could have fixed the instability if I stuck with it, but I'm not willing to do that for every other application I have, every time I update.

For what it's worth, it was Proton VPN, on Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop. Officially, they only support GNOME, but it's common knowledge that their GNOME stuff is compatible with KDE.

They do officially support Fedora, so I followed those instructions. No dice. From what I read, it seems everyone is having this issue on the current version of the kernel. I saw some suggestions that a flatpak might work, which I tried. Nope. For shits and giggles, I tried just using the Windows version with wine, which of course didn't work. They have a CLI version, so I tried that next. It hasn't updated in 4 years, so their endpoint rejected it.

I'm aware that I could just configure all my VPN settings in the system settings instead of using the official GUI, but again, this is the very second application I installed. I'm not willing to deal with this for every other application on every update, if another distro doesn't need to.

>>107097104
>Proton VPN
Don't let your VPN provider configure your network. That's just fuckwitted behavior.

>>107095205
Worst advice ever.

>>107095722
Try both.
I recommend Kubuntu but you really should form your own opinion based on experience.

>>107097157
exactly
you get another ssd
then you get two identical multi terabyte drives
then you put OS on ssd
then you put home folder on raid on hard drives
and THATS how you install linux based operating system

>>107097156
You're not listening. This is why I didn't say which app it was the first time: because it doesn't matter which app it was. The fact of the matter is that the second thing I tried to install didn't work on an officially-supported distro. I don't need that particular application, but if this is what Fedora is like, why should I stick with it?

Bear in mind, I have not actually switched from Windows yet. I'm trying a few distros to see which one I want. I'm not saying I need to uproot all my shit and put it on Mint because I've run into one tiny inconvenience on Fedora, I'm saying one trial run immediately ran into problems and one didn't. Why is it you're so insistent I need to switch to Fedora instead of Mint?

>>107095838
>>107097178
I think I'll go with Kubuntu. Is there really any real differences between the regular and LTS versions? I saw discussion about uutils and I don't want unstable stuff right now, otherwise I'd just keep using Arch. Anything else I need to know?

are there any fucking laptops that doesnt struggle with linux support?

>>107097286
never owned a single one that does

>>107097104
Third-party VPN apps are notorious for breaking and doing dodgy things with your operating system.

The ideal user-friendly way for retards to do a VPN would probably be to have something like we have for Online Accounts where you select your provider, login, oAUTH black magic happens and you get your VPN configured using first-party tools and no dodgy clients.

>>107097286
ThinkPad, Dell, HP, etc. Anything that's not some RGB gamer crap that needs a hardware specific driver for its custom keyboard and stupidly high DPI trackpad.

>>107097286
>>107097306
as in none of my laptops ever struggled
no matter how old or new

>>107088604
I was using the recommended drivers(535) instead of the latest(580). Everything is working fine now, just need to set the log in screen resolution to match the user and I'll be pretty happy.

>>107097286
Linux certified ones. Every company worth buying from has a few.

>>107097277
Just stay on Windows. You're too insecure about your own ineptitude for effective problem solving.

>>107097600
I'll not be taking advice from someone who's more interested in feeling superior than the actual usefulness of software, thanks.

>>107097285
regular will be less stable than LTS and you'll be changing over more often than LTS.

>>107086277

you are telling me btrfs with snapshots and noatime is good

Right, give me some ideas for a XFCE4 docker. Currently I'm using Plank-reloaded and it's a-okay but somewhat finicky plus it lacks applets.

>>107088220

puppylinux

Going to try and play WoW MoP Classic on CachyOS because I'm massively retarded faggot. Is performance actually better than Windows? I'm using Proton through Steam.

>>107092257

is it terminal emulator anymore if you connect terminal emulator computer with serial cable

>>107097720
Not them, but I use noatime but turn on relatime for my /home.

/dev/nvme1n1p2 / btrfs rw,noatime,compress-force=zstd:6,ssd,space_cache,subvolid=256,subvol=/@ 0 0
/dev/nvme1n1p2 on /home type btrfs (rw,relatime,compress-force=zstd:6,ssd,space_cache,subvolid=678,subvol=/@/home)

I like having access times for my home folder. I also have scripts that rely on atime for cleaning up cache files in ~/.cache that have not been accessed recently.

>>107097814
No, then it's a serial console which won't have proper interactivity and will shit at you if you try to use a bunch of ANSI escape codes, etc.

So...how am I supposed to rename files in GWorkspace?

>>107098016
rename files? Why would you want to do that?

How do I into rootless X? Does SLiM-fork support it or do I have to switch display managers?

>>107098028
>>107098016
Renaming is bloat. If you don't know what you are doing stop using Linux in the first place.

>>107098068
>filename is jovbnbvhgb_v1231
>want to rename it to input.whatever
>this is bloat
ogey

Fresh Loondook dropped and he's completely gazzing the rust troons HAIL LOONDOOK HAIL OUR PEOPLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_KqX3ZlJs

>>107098215
Complete over-reaction. What will happen is the GCC-Rs people will get the compiler in good enough shape to compile whatever Apt needs and that will be that.

Is a Raspberry Pi worth it for practicing if you're new to Linux?

New thread >>107098379

>>107098358
If you have some fun projects or automation stuff, etc, you'd like to build then sure. As a desktop it's not very useful though because the Broadcom GPU in it is pretty shitty.

>>107098358
yes, you can do a lot of fun shit with them

>>107098358
I mean sure, it expects to have Raspberry Pi Linux installed to it (A Debian spin) and lets you use it like you would any Debian system.

>>107087223
Depends on your use case. It's enough for kernel development but I would try to run Windows 11 on it.

>>107097874
Is relatime still much slower than noatime or does it not matter anymore?

>>107098644
It's negligible. Almost every distro defaults to relatime. I just disable it apart from /home because I don't need access times anywhere else but do actually have a use for them in /home

>>107086219
Even if the compression ratio is pretty low (especially with many videos/pictures and fewer text) 10-20% extra storage for free is pretty neat. Also, the right compression can improve performance (although I think anon's zstd=6 is too much).

>>107086219
If you boot from a SATA or MMC it can be a substantial performance improvement because program binaries aren't stored compressed by most distros.

>>107097547
Now I can't open games and the pc freezes when I do. Far out!

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the fuck do i do if some packages fail to download?
i already ranked my mirrors but it didnt help
do i just wait it out?

>>107099082
What is this package manager? If it's Pacman you do pacman -Syu package_name

memes

>>107097874
>>107098670
relatime is the kernel default, you don't need to "turn on" anything

>>107099125
does it have to be the exact package name? cause i just ran sudo pacman -Syu nodejs and its doing a full system upgrade instead

>>107099147
That is correct behaviour. Partial updates are not supported on Arch and your install is out of date, that's why you can't install the outdated version of the package. The alternative would be manually installing all the outdated packages from archive on your outdated install.

>>107099169
>install is out of date
i think this was the issue
can install the dependencies now after the full upgrade
thanks for da help
gonna update for frequently now

>>107089754
You should be able to just Ctrl+Alt+F2 to go to a new tty for troubleshooting without rebooting btw

>>107099137
When you use BTRFS if you set noatime on the root then other subvolumes inherit that, that's what I meant by "turning on relatime". If I don't mount it with relatime explicitly then it inherits the noatime used to mount the root subvolume.

>>107093231
idk, arch?
https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/arch-boxes/-/packages
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/QEMU#Pre-made_virtual_machine_images

>>107098358
You could just buy a new SSD for that price