>News & Rumors
RDNA 1/2 are losing active support
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: Not usually a significant improvement over a 7800X3D in gaming
-3060: Contrast pricing with 2070 (similar performance, 8gb) and 2080ti
-7700: Region dependent, at ~$250+ you'd likely better served elsewhere
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, buy only if $350 is the absolute max budget and you can't consider used
-9070: Only worth considering if cheaper than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op.

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Previous:
>>107078309

More than one thread with the /pcbg/ subject line on the catalog is not allowed. OP knowingly spammed a duplicate general because he is buttmad someone baked before him. His spam threads have been deleted by the Janitor before.
Real thread
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>>107084520
>>107084520

Might want to edit the part about the rdna 1 & 2 cards getting shot behind the barn now that amd has backpedaled
Remains to be seen how much support they will lose, if its just not getting access to fsr4 or whatever or if it goes further

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>>107084830
You will see nicotroon permabanned in your lifetime

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>>107084835
So the same as 20XX and 30XX cards not being allowed to use DLSS4 or Frame Gen (but somehow you can force the latter anyway)

>>107084859
I understand what you mean but i dont think the average user (myself included) would infer that from
>losing active support

>>107084871
i understand that (i have a 3060TI) i just meant it for clarity's sake. That the term might be correct but i dont think it conveys the situation to the layman

>>107084830
I'll stay here thx
next time don't make threads 30 posts before bump limit.

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>>107084906
Your cpu is a more than decent am4 cpu. That means it needs an am4 mobo and ram.
Am4 is a dead platform so most chips above yours (and there are not that many and they are not that much better) are mainly discontinued.
If you just want to improve your experience in say cyberpunk i would advice you to purchase a 1440p screen and aim for (a very easily obtained on your rig) 60fps @1440p with max settings.
If you are set on upgrading your computer you would need to get new mobo, ram, cpu, & accoutrements (cooler, psu, maybe case etc). Your 4080 would do well on the new rig, so would the hypothetical screen i advised you earlier in this post.
Let me know
Here have a Canadian rikishi Kototenzan Toshimitsu, his highest rank was makushita 43

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Best ATX motherboard and cooling fans and power supply for this case? Gonna be running a AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D and a 5090 on it.

>>107084830
fuck you pajeet shills, stop ruining this board to make shekels

>>107084990
i really like my Antec fans that came with my Antec Flux pro, they're pretty quiet and powerful. I have no idea outside of that, i've never not used a stock fan on a pc that came with it.

>>107084990
Kind of a wide net you're casting don't you think? No specific preference other than "the best?"

>>107084845
permabans don't work on 4chinz anymore since you can just switch IP address on your phone by toggling flight mode on and off

https://www.amd.com/en/blogs/2025/continued-support-for-every-radeon-gamer.html

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>107085078
>permabans don't work on 4chinz anymore
A rangeban does though.

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>>107085082
hardware unboxed look like clowns now

>>107084990
>700€ cpu
>3k gpu
>"best mobo fans and psu"

115€ case
Is this a troll anon? Are you gonna house 5k worth of tech on what is widely considered a good upper budget case?

>think about buying cpu on sale
>ddr5 prices are up 50% so now is bad time to buy cpu that requries new mobo and ram

kinda lame guys

>>107085082
Okay so what exactly is going to happen to rdna1/2 then?

>>107085090
they've removed almost all the rangebans because they reduce traffic too much
my phone is range banned from posting images, but I can bypass that by e-mail verification apparently
not that I'm ever going to do that

>>107085121
What it says there >>107084859
They will keep making game patches and shit but they wont tinker with the cards or work on new features and shit to keep them "stable"

>>107085120
ram prices will probably fluctuate down again, it's just because OpenAI bought 40 percent of all the ram in the market or something
ram is by far the part that fluctuate the most in price

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>>107084976
Case won't be a problem. Got a Phanteks Eclipse P600S, processor and GPU are both running AIO liquid coolers and I've got both radiators to fit with no major issue. EVGA 850W PSU.

Looking around, the 9900X is $560 on Newegg right now, and an Asus TUF B850 Plus mobo is $280. Don't really have a particular budget in mind...FUCK ME SIDEWAYS, when did RAM get this expensive? I paid like, a hundred bucks for G.Skill Ripjaw 16GB DDR4 in 2021, what in the flaming fuck is over $300 for 32GB DDR5?

>>107085082
This still doesn't say games will get day 1 support
This is maintenance mode with extra steps
They are unironically just making things worse and should just say RDNA1/2 will get the exact same drivers and support as RDNA3/4

>>107085121
nothing. its am4 all over again. amd saying they will pull support and internet rages and they are still making am4 cpus to this day now.

>>107085119
You know perfectly well the answer
All your post is clamoring the answer
If you are set on switching to whatever comes after the 9800x3d on the next generation AND you know that the 9800 isnt that much btter than the 7800 AND the 7800 is on sale....
You know the answer.

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why should i order 500 dollars worth of doodash over buying this?
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-9800X3D-16-Thread-Desktop-Processor/dp/B0DKFMSMYK/
as well as spend the money on doordash over getting the ram and motherboard i need for it
wouldn't it be much healthier for me to buy new computer parts?
for comparison my current setup is a 12700k with 64 gigs of DDR4 ram

>>107085151
Everyone knows that, AYYMDEAD is weasel words and damage control

>>107085165
12700x = 5800x
5800x is still good cpu at everything

>>107085165
if you aren't sitting on a 5090 plus an oled display I will call you retarded right now for this upgrade

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>>107085153
>two threads
FFS
anyway, yeah that is what I had decided (the 7800X3D), just seeing if I was missing anything obvious about the comparison between the two.

Tbh I really am thinking of saying fuck it all given the ram price increases, I want 64GB but shits gone pants on head retarded, its even spiked once again in the last couple weeks.

I am currently on a 5800X3D anyway, which is still pretty good all things considered, but definitely limiting my FPS a touch at 1440p.

>>107085197
>mfw have a 5090 and am eyeballing a 4k OLED

>>107085165
>>for comparison my current setup is a 12700k with 64 gigs of DDR4 ram
????
why are you upgrading anything now?
Just wait for Nova Lake/Zen6 those will actually be a worthwhile jump with 16 P-cores/12 core CCDs

Only worthwhile upgrade would be a GPU if yours is too old

>>107085197
my main fire display is an OLED
a 5090 is gonna need some saving up though and will likely be a 6090 in reality
>>107085195
so what should i spend the money on? really need good things other than blowing it on doordash
and no i wont fucking save it for nothing in particular
>>107085215
what is the wait on zen 6? i will not be buying another intel CPU
and my GPU is a 7900 xt cause when i bought it the XTX was all out of stock (when they launched)

Is Gimp an alright alternative to paint.net? I don't do any actual drawing or anything I just need a decent photo editor

>>107085235
It's garbage

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>>107085148
For gaming/media a 7600x / 9600x or 7800x3d are probably better choices
For mobo you can get just about any b650 that has the connections you need. However b850 models have newer tech and a few extra features (newer usb, slightly faster pcie, better wifi) so i would stick with those. The one you posted seems fine enough.
Ram suffered a pretty stronk price hike for the last month. Shit sucks.

I made you a mock up list, i dont know how reliable are those vendors in canada, feel free to se it all to amazon. All the pieces are made with parametric filters for the cheapest compatible part that has been decently reviewed. Also included a 2tb nvme since we haven't talked about it, feel free to ditch it if you are happy with your storage.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2Vnb74

I set the 9600x which is a fairly budget but effective gaming chip. Consider a 7800x3d (+about double the price) if you want a better gaming chip.

This is the only other Canadian rikishi Homarenishiki Yasokichi his highest rank was sandame 46

>>107085229
Zen 6 Medusa Ryzen launches early 2027 on AM5 chipset

>the nigger made some anon buy a 5060 over a 9060
>some other anon almost got baited into buying 7800x3d over the 9800x3d
and (you) keep on feeding him and letting him create threads or be in charge of the op
>>107085082
it was pretty clear from the start, sadly the nigger also spammed this shit every thread too

>>107085283
>some other anon almost got baited into buying 7800x3d over the 9800x3d
Every anon should be "baited" on buying a 7800x3d over the 9800x3d
Fuck you kindly.

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>>107085253
One might say I'm alright on hard drives. I scavenge the fucking things like a vulture. Albeit the one showing there as K: is semi-dead. The super-full ones are Windows file history and backup.

7800x3d is hot, locked and inferior to the 9800X3D in every way even down to the architecture there's good reason its price is crashing now

>>107085259
that's more than a year away what should i spend the money on until then?

>>107085322
family and friends

>>107085330
that exactly who im trying tio avoid getting my money if i save it one of those leeches will find a way to get it

If AMD was gonna cause controversy with their newest driver the least they could have done was release a stable one, but I ended up having to roll it back because the overlay would just make games crash out if I tried to open it

>>107085207
>I am currently on a 5800X3D anyway
In my country those sell second hand for the price of a new 7800x3d, maybe a bit higher
t. 5600x user that tried to buy a 5800x3d

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>buy Sony headphones for low latency high quaity bluetooth audio on my PC
>they only support AAC and LDAC, no aptX
is wireless audio on Windows just impossible without getting homosexual 2.4GHz dongle gaying headphones that suck for actually listening to music?
sure, these sound great, but the delay is there when listening for it...

>>107085404
You can try the HD 630s when those come out

>>107085411
>500 dollars
I'd rather hang myself on an aux cable, thanks.

>>107085207
>two threads
>FFS
the other thread was a shill trying to hijack the OP
behavior like that should really be dissuaded, it's a pain in the ass

>>107084990
>>107085068
Yeah, what are some of the best options? I hear some motherboards are frying components. As long as it doesn't have any rgb stuff on it. What fans/power supplies are good enough for the 9950x3d and a 5090 and what motherbaords are trusted?

>>107085229
>so what should i spend the money on? really need good things other than blowing it on doordash
invest your money for your retirement you retard
this is why you're poor and are never gonna make it
don't fucking waste money

>>107085235
just pirate photoshop like any normal human bean
I still use cc15 and it's almost enough for all of my needs
I write almost because I also use IOPaint for generative fill, and I refuse to pay for photoshop to get generative fill

>>107085404
>wireless

Retards never learn

>>107085498
Maybe I want to get up from my chair and walk around the room without having to take my headphones off? Close/open my window without putting my call on hold or pausing whatever I'm watching? etc.
Only retards still use dirty buds and dollar store headsets with cables in 2016+9.

>>107085493
>ust pirate photoshop
no thank you, i like my pc without malware

>>107085531
what you don't like pirating programs then using a key generator that has music that sounds like the dude playing the synth in Dude Where's My Car

>>107085550
i just listen to the keygen music on youtube

>>107085550
I miss those days honestly
piracy these days have no soul
I especially miss the crack demos on amiga games
they had an own charm

>>107085529
There is correct equipment for every use case. If you're sitting in front of the computer, you might as well use wired headphones since they provide best sound quality and they dont need charging.

If you're fucking around the house or excercising, get some secondary wireless headphones.

>>107085702
>If you're sitting in front of the computer, you might as well use wired headphones
Yeah might as well get a chair with legs instead of wheels because 99% of the time you're not rolling around, right?

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>>107084799
when you fell for it and boughted radeon

>>107085283
>some other anon almost got baited into buying 7800x3d over the 9800x3d
Which you should unless you've already maxed out everything else.
>>107085751
Based

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Most people don't have a 4090 or 5090 btw
https://wccftech.com/best/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-vs-7800x3d-for-gaming/

Recommending the 7800X3D over the 9800X3D is fine when the price gap justifies it.
You can spend that $110 buying more storage or something.

>>107085229
>really need good things other than blowing it on doordash
>and no i wont fucking save it for nothing in particular
for the american only goyslop or hardware exists, nothing inbetween
based

>>107085404
that was my understanding from reading about headphones might aswell take the gamerpill if that is your usecase
gamers won

>>107085813
>gpu limit therefor cpu bad
>wccftech
>average fps benchmark in the year of our lord 2025

>>107085962
>>gpu limit therefor cpu bad
Most games are GPU bound, and the 7800X3D is more than capable of handling CPU-bound titles.
Those CPU-bound games are actually user-skill bound (PEBKAC) most of the time.

>>107085229
buy XRP

X3D buyers are spoiled brats who never played games back in the 2000s when 20-30 FPS at 800x600 was the norm and 60 FPS at 1280x1024 was a luxury.

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>Have about £2.4K to spend on a PC.
>Want a 9800X3D and 5080
>Ram prices go up.
>Build a PC now has my build at 2.5K

I still can't decide on a case
the 217 would have been perfect if it had proper top IO

>>107086080
5080 isnt usually the value choice

>>107086053

Remembering shit like this is exactly why I splurged on an x3d this time around. First Rig was some ungodly 800Mhz cpu in 2001 with Geforce 2MX 200 with bad drivers that killed t&l support in games that needed it and cause tons of artifacting. That rig played Unreal tournament at 1024x768. At what fps? I had no fucking idea. All I know is that it felt fucking good to get some top hardware this time around after runnung budget builds all my life.

>>107086094
Isn't the 5070ti almost the same anyway

>>107086113
tuned 5070ti is almost a stock 5080 while being much cheaper

Always buy the strongest CPU/GPU you can afford
if you can afford that 9800X3D now, there is no reason to buy the 7800X3D

BUT if you need put that extra $100 into a stronger GPU then buy the 7800X3D

>>107086145
This only applies to GPU, otherwise you get redditcore builds with a 9800X3D and a 9060XT instead of 9600X and 5070 Ti for the same price.

>>107086080
DDR5-6000 RAM I had in my list is now only £30 cheaper than DDR5-8000 OC RAM

>>107085989
cope followed by more cope followed by just do magic and your cpu bottlenecks will be solved by magic not the shit engines

>>107086080
just earn more money, simple as
universal solution works on most things, have you tried it

>>107086112
2001 I had a p3 500mhz
pure sovl

>>107086113
they're both literally the same gb203 chip.
its 6800xt vs 6900xt all over again

>>107086166
no need to bring up ancient legacy cards

>>107086080
>9800x3d
>5080
>But +100# is the breaking point

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>>107086159
>cope followed by more cope followed
Just no. Some of the best Counter Strike players are using Intel CPUs btw.

>>107086258
can I get an explanation of the importance of frame rates of 190

>>107086258
don't the best Counter-Strike players play at like 480 stretched out on the lowest settings possible

>>107086222
It's not the breaking point. It just slides it from "This month" to "Next month".
Which is annoying.

only 5080 worth buying is the asus x noctua 5080 or the hatsune miku 5080

>>107086258
>posting ultra jank engine with patch updates that change everything every day conducted by a normie outlet
>just do magic
I don't even know what your point is anymore

>>107086292
lower latency and frame rate is tied to motion clarity on sample and hold display dog shit

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>>107086258
just 700€ premium for a green pink paint job

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>>107086342
The point is that the 7800X3D is still great at handling a variety of games, whether they're more CPU or GPU demanding.
If you want the newer X3D chip, no one here's going to stop you from buying what you want.
But if someone asks whether a 7800X3D is still good enough, the answer is yes.

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>>107086399
the amd 8 cores are kinda shit at multicore loads so thats lame

>>107086411
If you need multicore go dual ccd and deal with those headaches

can I get a system under $1100 to run bf6 at 1440p? I dont want an amd gpu

I have a 9800X3D undervolted and a 5070 Ti overclocked, is there any point in going for an undervolt on the GPU as well? It's very quiet already (ASUS TUF).

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>>107086639
theres are "overkill" benches so you prob run it with medium
5070 is better than 5060 ti and costs <600$ but theres the optional frame gen x4

problem is 32gb ddr5 ram is expensive rn and you lose 50$ buy now rather than a month ago

you could save money buying 7800x3d with no warrant from aliexpress?

>>107086686
If the video card is running quietly, I'd keep the maximum stable OC.
Undervolt it if you prefer more power efficiency.

>>107086639
Posted a build in >>107086678
Here's a bit more trimmed-down list. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7BMjn
You need to buy an individual memory module of the same specs because they're about $20~30 cheaper than buying a 2x 16GB set..
I don't recommend buying the 5060 Ti 8GB. It's either the 5060 8GB or the 5060 Ti 16GB.

>>107086639
5060ti and a 9600x.
You can do that at $1100 if you're not splurging on random things.

>>107086801
It just sucks to recommend a $300 8GB card in 2025 but here we are.
NVIDIA should release a 2060 Super 12GB but those 3GB GDDR7 chips can be sold for higher margins in higher tier Super cards.

>>107086686
of course there is
you bought the hardware
push ittttttt find out what it can doooo how much it can takeeeeee
what? you bought this shit just for video games? I don't believe you.

>>107086426
That's why I'm waiting for the 12-core 10800x3d
I'd be happy if it's just as fast as a 13900k/7950x in multicore

Look at this way; the performance of RDNA 1 & 2 going forwards will be readily evident in the benchmarks. Just wait for the next few big game releases to see what happens to these 6000 series and older cards.

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current ddr4 ram I got cost <60€

Maybe /pcbg/ might know what's up or have some idea of what I could use to crossreference the issue.

>9800x3d
>5090 Aorus Master
>Dominator DRAM clock speed 6400
>Samsung 9100 Pro
>Taichi Mobo

Yes, I know about the CPU burning. I bought the board and CPU before the issue was known. I'm not ditching it because I cba, and I can easily replace both.

My problem is with recording video through GeForce Experience. When I got the GPU (shortly after launch through the Newegg ticket system), I noticed that when I recorded my Desktop using GeForce experience pic related is what it looked like. Constantly flickering between this and normal looking footage, just all sorts of fucked colors trying to give me a seizure. However, not on the display, not when streaming footage, and every test that could be done I did (to try and get the GPU to melt before the return period). It passed with flying colors on everything, still hasn't had a single BSOD to this day. Every 3DMark results (didn't matter which test) came back above the median, I never pushed the OC to anything retarded. I just pushed it enough to see if under prolonged stress, it'd melt, and it didn't. Furmark was fine, too.

Games all run great, rendering videos using the GPU works great, everything is good except for when I try to record anything using GeForce Experience. I reported this when I got the card and was told it was the drivers by a number of other 5090 owners. After a few months and some updates, it went away. I didn't think of it again because I stopped gaming/recording until this (couldn't game because of work). A few days ago I needed to record something in a game to show a friend, and the same problem emerged in the recorded footage within the game (still recorded using GeForce).

Is there another GPU based recording software I could use to check if the issue can be replicated there? Is it another bad driver update? Is it the GPU? Is it just GeForce Experience?

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>>107088144
Forgot pic related.

>>107088144
try using nvidia app recording instead

>>107088154
A E S T H E T I C

>>107088162
I'll give that a shot, but you've succeeded making me hate Nvidia more.
>Shadow Play replaced by Experience
>Experience seemingly replaced by this but not?

Pick a lane, Nvidia, Christ.

>>107088202
I dont even know how you manage to install GE over Nvidia app with how it was deprecated

>>107084871
they’re allowed to use DLSS4 though, NVIDIA explicitly enabled support

>>107086145
>Always buy the strongest CPU/GPU you can afford
what a retarded suggestion
make a budget and try to stick to it
in general I always buy the second cheapest option
the cheapest is usually utter crap, but the second cheapest is usually good enough
and just upgrade often
then you always also have spare parts in case something fails

>>107086292
>can I get an explanation of the importance of frame rates of 190
there's a sucker born every minute

>>107086872
if I couldn't afford a 5060 ti 16 gb I'd probably go for a second hand 3060 12 gb
I'd stay away from any 8 gb card now honestly

>fat retardant from gamers nexus makes a video about amd
>mentions NVIDIA less than a minute into the video and goes off on unhinged rant
Literally mind broken

>>107088144
Try OBS Studio Replay Buffer.
You can set it to store instant replay on the system memory, which will reduce drive wear.
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-turned-obs-shadowplay-replacement/

>>107088162
Just recorded 15 minutes, same problem. I also, just to check it wasn't some weird encoding problem with the source file, reencoded the footage using Handbrake and it's still bugged.

Like I said though, the actual gameplay has no problems whatsoever. Everything is fine performance wise, visuals, etc. Just for whatever reason when I am do a recording, it does this. And to clarify: I did reinstall (clean) the drivers before this recent recording to be 100% certain.

>>107088390
I will give this a shot, thanks.

>>107088390
I followed the guide in that article, and I set the encoder to Nvidia's (which, I am almost certain forces it to use the GPU to do the legwork, and not the CPU). And... the footage came out right. Whatever the problem is seems be with Nvidia's actually recording software. Assuming, of course, that OBS is actually recording through the GPU. And I am going to assume it is because I am imagining this same problem would manifest when I encode a video using Handbrake or Adobe and it uses the GPU.

Fucking Nvidia.

>>107088484
probably you somehow using GeForce experience that has been discontinued for a year

>>107088632
I uninstalled it and used Nvidia App, so no.

>>107088632
I have a rx6600
Am i fucked with amd abandoning it? What actually changes for an average user?

I ordered an expensive cpu from aliexpress with no warranty at the time when ddr5 ram is in its 5 year peak price

yay.

Evidently my 1660 ti is not good enough for KCD2, at least not good enough to get non-choppy frame rates.

Any recommendations on mid range GPUs? I'm still on 1080p but I'd like to upgrade to 1440 soon. Preferably a AMD card because Linux.

Where's the udna 1 or rdna5 ? Did amd just give up after assfucking rdna 1-3

>>107089128
might be your cpu. Older CPU's are very choppy on KCD1, and they didnt fix any of the bugs from the first one.

>>107089185
No it's a newer one, a 7800x3d.

>>107089128
Mid range AMD would be the 9060xt 16gb. Or maybe that's considered low-end now? What really matters is how much you want to spend I think. The 9070 and 9070xt are fine too, although the 9070xt isn't great value in the US because the 5070ti is better and close in price. Outside the US the 5070ti tends to be much more expensive so the 9070xt is comparatively better.

good morning bros
luv' my 5070
'ate AMD
simple ass

>>107089251
Yeah $400 is right about my price range. That can do 1440p right?

>>107089266
You'll need to use FSR for 1440p and FSR upscaling looks like ass compared to DLSS. I mean, it could work if you're not picky, but it's not ideal, while DLAA/DLSS and FG are pure tech voodoo magic.

>>107089150
Rdna4 isn't even 1 year old bro

>>107084799
Microcenter let me buy 5 GPUs today, had to call in an override for each one past the first GPU, 4 Radeon AI Pro 32GB and 1 9070xt lol, "who approved this?" "I don't know, they called it in, it's approved, just give him the cards." Apparently, an online reservation error; It should've been locked to 1 per household like Newegg was. I feel lucky. They all sold out too quickly on Newegg, and I didnt want 4 different model designs and brands simply because of 1 per household bs. Buying 4 matching workstation cards when you're shelling out 5k feels like a bare minimum, so I don't feel bad at all. Excited to run GLM-AIR-4.5 once the Threadripper Pro+Quad 9700 build comes together.

>>107086872
money is what it is
i personally would under no circumstance buy that card, and try to scrape the 140 towards the 5060TI 16gb, or just try to find a used card
On that budget 140 is a lot, but buying an 8gb card wit hte idea of playing games at 1440p will backfire on you real hard real soon

>>107089280
What kind of card would I need for 1440p gaming with no upscaling?

>>107089266
roughly the 9060xt 16gb is 380-500 the 9070 is 550- 650 and the 9070xt is 650-750 model depending

>>107089360
>60fps card is nearly $900

FUCK

>>107089367
Here's one where they tested the 9060xt and 5060ti
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9060-xt-pulse-oc/22.html

>>107089388
That doesn't seem too bad. The 7700xt is in my price range.

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Reposting so its not shit

This is what techpowerup has to say
Thats with no upscaling
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/kingdom-come-deliverance-ii-performance-benchmark/5.html
They didnt test the 9060 9070/xt but that work as a reference. You can go to the full article to also see a bnchmark with upscaling.
Loved KCD2, but probably liked the first one better

>>107089404
Check the one the other anon posted too, they used a 9060xt there and got a couple extra frames over the 7700xt and its newer tech
I personally have a 9070xt and its incredible if you can find the extra 200

>>107089413
Would you say the 9070 is more future proof than the 60? I can afford it, I work full time and live with my parents, I just feel bad spending money on stuff that I don't "need".

>>107089339
Depends on the game. For honestly most games a 9070 or 5070 would be enough. Including older UE5 sloppa like Robocop.
For the latest and greatest sloppiest slop? Anything below 4090 tier is just straight cope for native resolution gaming at reasonably cranked settings. Hell in some games a 4090/5090 is required to hit native 1080p60 (FULL EYCH DEE by the way) at Ultra/Epic settings, not even 1440p or 4K.
This got a bit ranty, so, TLDR most games 5070 is enough, other games not even God can save you. DLSS/FSR are your friends.

>>107089434
There is no more future proofing anon, we live and die at the whims of Hensen
But obviously is a stronger card. At the time i didnt even consider the base 9070 cause the price was fairly expensive in my country only like 50€ cheaper than the xt model so i just picked the xt.
Im sure it will be fine for a long while to play shit at 1440p
That said KCD2 is not the most demanding game out there, game looked good but ran pretty decently on lower hardware. You might not be able to get those 60fps @1440p (on ultra) on newer titles. No worries as long as you don mind playing on high or whatever

>>107089447
Well seeing as I'm playing on low right now (medium is choppy) I'd say I'm fine with high. I actually rarely ever play new games, but I bought 2 newer games just this year (KCD2 and Elden Ring).

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>>107089458
Good taste anon. May i recommend Wuchang? probably the 2nd best ̷r̷o̷l̷l̷s̷l̷o̷p̷ souls like not from From (behind Lies of P)
Anyhow you can always use FSR as needed, your cards are already being built in the assumption you will use frame gen and upscaling, that shit aint going away.
Since i have been glazing kcd, here, have a Czech rikishi. Takanoyama Shuntarō, his highest rank was an impressive maegashira 12! despite having trouble gaining weight all his career.

>>107089498
I actually didn't care for Elden Ring, but Dark Souls kicked ass and i played that for the first time this year too. I'll check out that game.

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>$2500 budget. USA
Getting pic related from cyberpowerpc
I'm a lazy retard and don't want to build it myself.
r8 the parts. I can't seem to add internal Samsung 870 EVOs but I'll get two 4TBs for it.
Hoping my retard-ass picked decent parts for:
>Twitch streaming modern vidya 1080p60
>Video editing and lots of files
>Also open many tabs for browsing porn

>>107089710
scam

I am trashing 5 of my company's old (still somewhat new) routers. Is pressing the factory reset button on each of them enough or is there anything leftover like when you "delete" something on a HDD or other storage entity that you leave it only open for overwriting?

is the SN850X still the best nvme for linux?

>>107089900
SN8100 gen5 compared to the sn850x being gen 4

But considering the price and the difference in realistic workloads, yes sn850x is still the best

>>107089710
>cyberpower
The fuck, these niggas makes PCs?

>>107089941
cyberpower is not cyberpowerpc

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>>107085751
I have RX 9070 XT, running gentoo linux and I'm happy with the GPU. What's the problem?

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>>107089973

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Will there be any other differences between the 5080 and 5080 Super besides the VRAM increase? Any knowers?

>>107090003
They're raising tdp to 400W so it's probably factory OC'd and runs 5-10% faster

>>107090019
>probably factory OC'd and runs 5-10% faster
Sounds nice, thanks. Guessing 60 series won't be out until 2027

>>107090049
Rubin is supposedly being pulled in for an early launch but if so we'll probably only see the 6090 coming earlier in late 2026 with the rest coming in 2027

Is there a video or a guide with a checklist somewhere with all the things to do after building the pc?
Like bios configs, ram profiles, undervolting, stability tests and so on

>>107090075
there's always something new to /wait/ for, it's designed that way to FOMO you into coonsooming on a regular basis
really scummy and jewish IMO but what can you do, we still keep purchasing the goods and services because we want to break the monotony of daily life by indulging in some gaymes or AI sloppa generation

>>107090075
Won't be getting a 6090 so I guess I'll wait for 5080 Super then

>imagine buying amd gpus
I can see the road to 1%

Do I unconvince my friend to buy a 650 euro PC with a 5600, 32GB RAM and an RTX 5050? The issue is that if he doesn't buy it, he's gonna buy an M4 Mac Mini, which is honestly way worse, but he's getting scammed either way and I don't want to see that.
His thought process is that he'd have to jump all the way to a 2000 euro PC with a 5070 Ti for it to be worth going above a 5050, because the 5060 also has 8GB, the 5060 Ti is too underpowered for 16GB, the 5070 only has 12GB, so the next step after the 5050 is the 5070 Ti with everything in between being filler.

>>107090211
Those are fundamentally different machines so your friend needs to make a decision as to what he actually wants. That is to say, does he want a gaming PC or not?

>>107089710
i would advise against it
that seems just out of the blue very overpriced
gonna make a pcpp list on usa just to compare
i mean wtf 600w psu
Even if you dont want to build it pick your parts with the help of anons in here and just pay some local store 100$ to build it and you will be better than that

>>107090276
>pay some local store 100$ to build it
i didn't know that was an option. thanks anon.
>i mean wtf 600w psu
I wouldn't be here if I knew what I was doing

>>107089710
>>107090286
Ey thats me i made a mockup list copying whats in that prebuilt
Picked a different case as i couldnt find their specific one, im assuming they just slapped their logo in some chink shit.
Couldnt even find a 600w so i put a 750w and i would bet their 5060ti model is worse than the one i picked
It came to 1650$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kXf3rM

Now if you want i can make you a list for about 2k that will be better than the one in that prebuilt and you can use the saved money to well pay for getting it built (you would have to research stores for that) and pay for that extra storage you wanted.

Is there ever going to be a competitor to high end nvidia ever again?

>>107090315
>Ey thats me i made a mockup list copying whats in that prebuilt
Thank god you're here to help a nigga out.
>Now if you want i can make you a list for about 2k
Sure might as well see more options.

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it got worse
so bad they aren't even taking orders any more

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>>107090335
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tDz2XR
>Same cpu
>Similar mobo
>Better (and more) ram for video editing 64gb would be overkill for gaming but might as well
>Better nvme for system
>Better gpu (from 5060TI to 5070TI)
>Better and bigger PSU
The case i picked is usually well liked in this thread but feel free to go with one that you like better aesthetically, might want to check in here before.

That came to 2070" everything from amazon, although some of the stuff is not in stock so if you wanted it all now probably would need to make some substitutions or use other merchants beyond amazon, im not in the usa so can't vouch for any but people seem to like newegg.
You then would need to add the 4tb disks you wanted, they are about 220$ each so after the disks it comes to roughly the same 2500$ from your prebuilt (i dont know if you included the disks in the 2500$ of the prebuilt) for a substantially better pc, if you didnt include the disks on that 2500$ you mentioned earlier then it blows it out of the water with 450$ to spare, if they were included is similarly priced but better. It can probably be slimmed a bit if needed.
You would need to sort the building of the machine tho. Again you should check local stores that might offer those services.

Let me know if i can offer any further help.
Maybe some anons can critique the list too

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>>107090333
One day will AMD's GPU divison stop being retarded.. one day

>>107090333
there's supposed to be a xx90 competitor with udna next gen ((if)) they don't can it due to wafer allocation

>>107090417
fug
glad i got my 2x32gb 6000cl26s before this

>>107090442
Appreciate it, anon. I'm leaning towards the cheaper build you posted for now + the 4tb disks.
>The case
looks fine, idgaf really i'll forget about it in a day. The rainbow is cringe but i could probably turn that off

So I'm thinking of buying a second monitor just for gaming, which is why I would opt for OLED, since I wouldn't be working on that monitor.
However, the price of a 1440p OLED monitor is equivalent to that of a 4K IPS monitor.
What do you think? I know that the OLED image is better, but the advantages of 4K over 1440p are also considerable.
Now I don't know what to do. What makes more sense? Does anyone have any opinions?

>>107090585
Do you play with the lights on or off?
>lights on
4K IPS
>lights off gooncave
1440p OLED

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>>107090547
The first one i posted was the same components of the prebuilt if you want something around that price let me touch it a bit

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P26Y3w

This is a list similar to the prebuilt but better, including both 4tb 870s comes to 1858$ only using amazon.
You might want to consider an extra 32gb of ram (+150$) or going from the 5060TI to a 5070 (+85$) or to a 5070TI (+300$)

Let me know

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>SATA SSDs in 2025
What's the usecase?

>>107090640
i assume he wants to save a lot of video, maybe from gameplaysince he mentioning streaming and video editing

>>107090645
NVME drives are similarly priced and much faster, right?

>>107090653
I just picked those because the anon mentioned them by name on his first post
> I can't seem to add internal Samsung 870 EVOs but I'll get two 4TBs for it.

>>107090633
Looks cool, i'll sit on it.
>an extra 32gb of ram
a total of 64gb? What sort of things can 64gb do that 32gb can't? If it's huge, I would probably get this over the other extras.

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>>107090333
5080 already loses to last gen AMD

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>>107090666
For gaming absolutely nothing (right now) for editing depends how heavy your work is on that. Having more ram is what allows you to have more shit opened and ready so to speak. If your hard drives are the cabinet files the ram determines how many folders you can move from the cabinet to the desk at once and back. Forgive the analogy. Also i personally would 100% check on getting the 5070 over the 5060TI its less than 100$ difference and its a better card

Also another anon mentioned that getting 2 nvme 4tb hard drives instead of the sata should cost you about the same and they should be faster.

>>107090666
>Looks cool, i'll sit on it.
Feel free to repost the list later today in the next thread or as often as you want, get other anons to critique and help

Do you want a rikishi? How about the late Akebono Taro the 64th yokozuna of the sport, born in Hawaii

>>107090653
Not all boards have multiple NVMe ports. Most boards have at least 4 SATA ports, at least the ATX ones.

>>107090712
I have the cheapest poorfag-tier AM5 matx B650M board I got for 80 euro open box and it has 2 nvme slots. It doesn't even have 10gbit USB, but has that.

>>107090666
i just realized i forgot the mobo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZnN3rM

This is the same list but including the motherboard, it has 4 nvme ports in case you want to switch the sata evos for 4tb nvme

>>107090708
>for editing depends how heavy your work is on that.
I'm thinking I don't do very intensive stuff while editing. Then I'll probably go for the 5070 then.
>2 nvme 4tb hard drives instead of the sata should cost you about the same
That sounds good to go for, okay. From my searches I thought nvme just added $200 to w/e equivalent sata
>>107090731
cheers

>>107090739
>That sounds good to go for, okay. From my searches I thought nvme just added $200 to w/e equivalent sata
You can find 4tb nvme for about the same price you are paying for the 870s. Might be a bit lower on the totem pole of brands and models tho but still faster than the sata

At any rate now its just waiting to bait some anons that might now what they are doing on critiquin the list and helping.
Cheers

choosing mobos is made so much harder with hte redundant chipsets and refreshes
you have virtually identical mobos, with tiny chipset differences
you have same brands releasing dozen mobos for the same cpu
you have dozen manufacturers
intel chipsets differ from amd with 1 number
instead of having some "matx" "atx" microatx" type format scheme they add random "m" letter at the end of the name to indicate the form factor

Id really want to know what amd is thinking with these fucking chipsets

I keep a bottom tier am5 build on pcpp
Made with parametric filters for the cheapest pieces so i can see some prices at a glance on a single list
It just went up 40€ and the ram that has been patriot viper for the last weeks its now some weird ass brand
In fact those patriot viper went from 99€ mid september to 178€ right now, almost double.
ThAInk you

>>107090768
Choosing a mobo is always going to be "hard" because it's so personal. You don't need the same connectivity as Bill, who needs a lot more than Jack, but way less than Lilith and so on. In some sense you should count yourself lucky these days because it used to be a lot harder (775) . Now basically every board over $100 can do just about everything the average consumer might want; you only have to skim the spec sheet for one or two features. Frankly it's a sign of that feature convergence that people are getting twisted over bandwidth sharing on a SIXTY FOUR GB/s slot which is like 4x more than any client application can saturate.

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I want to build a mid-end PC, can I use the case from this pre-built from 2014(?) as base to keep the fans and power unit and only replace the motherboard/cpu/gpu or have the sizes of components changed too much since?

>>107088325
He unironically thought that he had some sway on the PC market and nvidia will bent the knee to him lmao.
AMD Unboxed Steve is also farming amd fanbois clicks but at least he wasn't that delusional.
GN Steve is obviously on the spectrum.
>watching jewtubers
I won't ever give these fags a click.

>>107090831
you can definitely fit midrange components, especially SFF ready like a dual fan 5070 or similar
the temps will be shit because no airflow though
but you definitely need a new PSU, this one is 400W and like you said 10-ish years old, so I wouldn't trust it at all, get the cheapest 750W 80+ Gold rated one

>>107090768
How is picking motherboard difficult when they are all the same? This is illusion of choice.
In the end you will buy the most expensive motherboard you can afford anyway.

>>107090672
damn i thought 5070ti was better than 7900xtx

as nobody fails for his bait he has to resort to replying to himself
very sad

>>107090831
I would throw the case away, you can cannibalize the fans if you want (i did on my old case's from that era to my current case) but you can't use that power supply and a new case will mean better airflow and easier way building it as newer cases will skip all those bays for the hard drives and optic drives.

>>107090768
amd has no confidence and keeps copying intel/nvidia naming schemes because they are aware they're playing in those companies' market

>>107090831
modern cases are so cheap and so much easier to build in and keep clean why bother unless you plan to fill that with hard drives or you still need the ODD

I keep an old bastard PC around for the DVD-RW drive so I can burn CDs for my old bastard car stereo because BT-to-FM converters have insanely shit audio quality

>>107090992
I still use discs a lot so that was part of why

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>>107090928
RTX 5080 just sucks man

>>107091046
That's fair I think the only other modern case with support for them is the Fractal Pop Air/Mini Air series
Well there's also the Silverstone FLP02 but that's a $200+ meme case

>>107091142
its the best xx70 card nvidia has released

PCs just cost way too much nowadays, man. Even if I try, as a thought experiment, to configure the minimum PC to play 2025 games at 1080p60, it still comes to over a grand.
Might as well grab a used and abused PS5 for 300 bucks and buy game discs second hand.

>>107091169
enjoy your 756p

>>107091179
you joke but I already play at like, what, 960p on my 5070? IIRC that's about the internal resolution of DLSS Quality at 1440p

I just can't imagine PC players ever going back to consoles.

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I wrote a big question here yesterday but one thing I didn't get much response on was the state of drivers.
I'll focus this down a bit in an attempt to get a better sample size.

As of around now in the last month, how has the Nvidia driver situation improved since the start of the year for 50 series cards?
Are there still frequent bugs and instability?
How impactful are they in your experience if any ranging from say, momentary issue of variable frequency that resolves itself to requiring full system restarts and tinkering to resolve?

The more anecdotal reports from actual 50 owners the better and are appreciated.

>>107091221
Nvidia drivers still suck ass. It's worse than AMD on Windows and Linux. The two major OS on the planet.

>>107091221
I've had my 5070 PC for over 2 months now and haven't had a single driver-related issue. The ONLY thing I can think of is Xformers not working because the version I have is incompatible with Blackwell, but that doesn't seem directly related to Nvidia's software.
Don't listen to the other faggot he's an AMD shill.

>>107091221
https://files.catbox.moe/h517uk.webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA

>>107091241
>>107091221
I had lots of driver issues with my 5070ti and sold it for a 9070xt. all the issues magically went away on Arch & Windows 11.

>>107091221
Do not buy NVIDIA/Intel if you care about your PC being stable.

>>107091221
You will not get an answer to this question here lmao

>haha Nvidia bad am I right lads? upvotes to the left wholesome AMD keanu chungus elon musk

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>>107091221
Nvidia has more outdated drivers than AMD.

>>107091221
the only driver issue i had with my 5090 since launch was with clair obscur expedition 33 crashing when trying to play it after a wake from sleep. and nvidia fixed it with the latest driver

9800X3D and RTX 5070
9800X3D and 9060XT

>>107091266
I got at least a few!
Wish we still had IP count though so I knew how many people are actually present here throughout the day.

>>107091221
half the issues are literally caused by windows or terrible ssd firmware

>>107091221
zero issues on my 5090, the lying shill retard makes himself very obvious by always saying “windows and Linux” and often lying about muh radv 40% better (it’s actually slower than windows drivers)

>>107091280
>he buyed boughted 7900xtx
OH NONONO AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Enjoy getting the RDOA1/2 treatment when UDOA launches.

>>107091332
>>107091284
>>107091241
I sold my 5080 because it wouldn't stop dxgi crashing

>>107091343
ok nicotroon

>>107091309
you buy amd CPU + amd GPU. simple as MMO set bonus.

anything else is niche retard spec build.

>>107091347
Nvidia is only if you want driver issues on your system in 2025 & soon 2026.

>>107091348
no more avatarposting nicotroon? Have you run out of IPs now?

>>107091309
5070 absolutely smokes the 9060XT in performance, it’s not even close
>>107091348
buying AMD for worse performance is retarded

>>107091348
>niche retard spec build.
SOVL
i shall now by intel arc

>>107091350
my 5090 nigger rapes your dogshit 9070XT and with more stable drivers while you are Indian

>>107091353
>>107091354
>>107091362
Ste(AMD)eck and consoles are all AMD for a reason. It's where all the optimization is heading towards compute focused architectures such as Valve's RADV.

Nvidia is only for unstablediffusionslop that crashes daily like buttcoin mining killed your 3090 gddr6x.

>>107091356
your niche retard spec has good encoder/decoder but terrible drivers

>>107091373
radv slower than windows drivers
AMD loses in performance, efficiency, vram, features, cost per frame, availability
DRIVERS is worse but you have retreated into TRANNY COPE

>>107091373
>AMD for a reason
the reason is that amd is the lowest bidder

radv is faster than nvidias windows drivers
Nvidia loses in performance, efficiency, vram, features, cost per frame, availability when it comes to gaming in 2025.
NVIDIA DRIVERS are worse but you have to be retarded to even consider it

>>107091376
>AyyMD UE4 macrostutters still not fixed

>>107091383
9070xt is better on linux than any 5000 series card

I found a 5:4 Dell monitor from 2015 the other day in a thrift store, kinda tempted to pick it up. At the same time, it makes me wish they 4:3 and 5:4 screens with 1200p resolutions and 240Hz refresh rates.

me wanting better 1% lows with a cpu upgrade from 5600x turned out being almost 600€

sigh

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>>107091388
Nvidia still havent fixed their drivers

radv is 25% slower than nvidia on windows

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9070XT is slower on linux than windows

>>107091414
Which kernel, which version of mesa

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Even plebbitors can see what amd did to radeon.

>>107091418
goalposts shifted
RADV is slower than windows driver
radeon has inferior rasterisation performance to geforce

>>107091420
its true... desktop radeon always gets the scraps...

>>107091396
>>107091414
modern todays date nvidia is slower and buggier than amd on windows 11 or linux

nvidia literally has outdated drivers
>>107091280

>>107091429
performance testing proves radv is slower than windows

>>107091434
Which kernel, which version of mesa
not todays date

>>107091434
modern todays date nvidia is STILL slower and buggier than amd on windows 11 or linux........................................................................

linux gaming > windows
especially when i want to play at sub 60fps on a 7" handheld screen instead of on an actual PC

>>107091436
you've been shilling "radv 50% faster" for years now you are looking to shift the goalposts because actual performance testing has humiliated you, you are transgender

https://files.catbox.moe/h517uk.webm

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>>107091429
amd is slower than last gen amd while nvidia is only getting better over time
>outdated
doesnt matter when its stable

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>>107091447
>>107091450
nvidia is slower than radv today.
also nvidia windows driver bugs out.

>>107091440
5090 beats 9070XT by 75% on average
>>107091458
radv makes radeon's performance disadvantage bigger

>>107091221
Nvidia drivers are still buggy mess unfortunately.

>>107091462
Not with these Nvidia drivers.

>>107091458
>t. running unstable ram overclock
happens a lot

>>107091394
Consider selling your old parts, you will get ~250€ or more back if you find the right buyer.
I upgraded my 5600 system only because 7800X3D+X670E+32GB6000CL30 was rather cheap, 600€ in total as well.
Certain games still stutter, you can't brute force shitty software.

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>>107091465
It's the Nvidia drivers still not fixed today

>>107091221
radeon drivers are still a buggy mess unfortunately, and they never get fixed because radeon abandons driver support after just a year or two

>>107091474
why crop out the date showing that its more than 6 months old

>>107091489
because it's nicotroon

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>>107091480
>>107091489
>>107091465
nope its the nvidia driver problems

nicotroon is spamming the thread with garbage so he can highjack the OP, you can tell because he names all his files

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Nvidia drivers are just not good today.

okay so avoid nvidia got it

>>107091508
he also claims he "doesn't care that much" but will spam every thread he doesn't get to make with cancer because he has terminal nvidia derangement syndrome, a very sad creature

Imagine being a nicotroon. Imagine shilling for a pajeet company because you were too slow to get a 5070ti on sale and have to cope with radeon garbage

it was nice while he was banned
may he get a permaban

Thread had 60 replies in the 40 minutes it took me to have lunch.
I would wager my kid's college funds that 60% of those were from the same person

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It is really unfortunate that all it takes is one rogue anon (and his antis giving attention) to shit any thread up, I'm grateful for any real responses I got to my question but this has quickly devolved into futility.

>>107091529
bro I went to another tab for 10 minutes to actually do work and then went to take a piss and came back to 36 unreads
clearly a schizo anon is having an episode and needs medical help

Any anon happens to have a 57/800x3d on a drawer because they upgraded from am4 and kept it just in case to maybe sell it but selling tech is such a hassle so it sits there and maybe they want to send it to me so that i can upgrade my shitty am4?
Boy that would be swell
FUCK AMD FOR DISCONTINUING THOSE CHIPS MAKING THEM EXPENSIVE AS FUCK
Thank you thank you

>>107091558
i would since you asked so nicely but unfortunately i was an intard back then

>>107091529
most of it is nicotroon, yes
>>107091551
doesn't matter if people give him attention, he's going to spam until the thread hits bumplimit so he can hijack the OP anyway

>>107091558
best I can offer is an athlon 64 x2

How do I plug a graphics card into the bottom slot when the front I/O connectors are in the way? I bought these chink ass right-angle adapters but they're so insanely loose they just fall right off, and even if I affixed them somehow I doubt there'd be a good connection. They don't fit in the usb header anyway. Total waste
https://www.moddiy.com/products/Motherboard-Front-Panel-Header-Dupont-10-Pin-2.54mm-Angled-Connector.html

>>107091575
>>107091579
i appreciate you both anons, i was just having a moment
Its just that it would fit my current rig so well and let me forget about components for a while but they are like 280€ 2nd hand

>>107091578
It's more that antis are often filling threads up with off-topic complaining about disruptive posters by paying too much attention to them than them being fueled by it.
It seems this behavior (hijackers and antis both) is also a problem on other boards than the ones I normally use, disappointing.

pc cases seem like a (small, cheap, pretty) pick two scenario

the fractal minipop silent I have is "cheap" an pretty, but it's still too big.

I know it doesn't matter, the guts are more important, but my OCD hates this

>>107086080
Just get a payment plan for certain parts like the gpu if 100 dollars is a the sticking point.

>>107084835
They had better fucking give RDNA2 FSR4 at this point, I’ve legitimately never been actually upset about any PC hardware story except for this one because AMD is just so fucking retarded, it’s unreal. I guess these fuckers are just going to shoot themselves in the foot every time they make some decent progress towards being competitive. Stop going the opposite direction, AMD. Don’t give less support, put RDNA2 on at least equal footing with Turing.

>>107092088
>just put luxury purchases you can’t afford on credit bro
American detected

Why isn't the 9950X3D the king gaming CPU?
With 128MB L3 cache, I would expect it to out perform the 9800X3D. For dual-CCD fuckery, assume you just disable the non-X3D cores in the BIOS and only use the 8 cores on one CCD. With 128MB cache vs the 9800X3D's 96MB.

Is this not a better chip all around?
Why does the 9800X3D not also have 128MB cache and only 96MB? Binning?

>>107092383
Retard-kun.
128MB is total L3 cache on 9950X3D, this includes X3D and normal L3.
CCD in Zen5 has 32MB of L3 cache, you can do the math.

thoughts on hyte x50?

>>107092454
>hyte x50
feels gimmicky but steve made a long ass video about it, go watch it and you tell us

>>107091710
Mods posted and he basically argues with himself whenver the thread is close to bump limit so he can hijack the OP and shill AMD garbage, you can check the archives and see that this never happen whenver he gets a vacation

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I thought I'd just dig my old thinkpad (with i7 and radeon rx gpu) from my closet and start using it, but the fucker won't turn on. I let it charge the batter for 1 hour but it only blinks the power and capslock leds when I press power button, nothing else it just keeps blinking them. What do?

>>107092425
Oh, alright.
I don't know why I was thinking the 128MB was anything othter than 96+32 split.

I'm building a computer with a Ryzen 7 7700, which one of these 2 motherboards would be better? (they're at almost the same price)
-MSI PRO B650-S WIFI
-GIGABYTE B650 EAGLE

>>107092587
B850 come on man.

>>107092338
there are things called principles which govern spending, not just bank balances

>>107092587
Both are rather low end boards but.
Just ask yourself this
>Do I care about Wi-Fi?
>Do I care about 2.5G LAN?
>Do I care about having more than 2 m.2?
>Do I care about having more USB3.0 over USB2.0 ports?
Because those are main differences between those boards.

>>107092647
>going into debt to make money
vs
>going into debt to play video games
One of these is acceptable and the other is fucking retarded.

>>107092699
we are no longer living in the same dimension

i saw 8 euro fans and 60 euro fans
so what differences fans have?

>>107092729
Noise, ammount of air pushed per unit of time, life expectancy, warranty, design features, brand whoring..

Is it worth getting a 1440p monitor for Ryzen 5 5600 + RTX 3060 assuming I barely play any of the modern AAA titles and willing to turn on dlss if framerates do get uncomfortable?
I still have a pretty sizeable backlog of gaymes from 2010's and looking at benchmarks some even some games from early 2020's show pretty solid performance

>>107092729
Anything above the like $5 thermalright fans is for the mentally ill.

>>107092793
>>107092763
Any protips? Which the best of low noise, good air push and lifetime? no RGB needed.

Does /g/ prefer miniLED or OLED ?

>>107092797
Arctic p12- costs five quid and werks.

ok so avoid nvidia got it

>>107092800
I have AOC miniled and its great. If they somehow improve OLED issues with burn in in the future I would be willing to spend more for superior image quality. Until then, miniled it is.

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>>107092800
>27"
oled
>32"
oled
>42"
oled
>55"
oled
>65"
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>77"
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>83"
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>98"
miniled

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>>107092764
if you are currently on 1080 @60hz jumping to a low end 1440p 166+hz will be a huge change
even for just being in the desktop and doing menial shit

>>107092764
it's worth buying 4k too
pc use is not only gaming at native res at native refresh rate

plz recommend me a mouse, my g502 lightspeed croaked and im uncertain whether to buy logi again €120 budget