>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut>RAM*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in fluxDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & Rumors RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super. Nova Lake 2026 Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2" >Product Notice PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors) Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected. https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/ >PSU Reviews https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies https://www.lttlabs.com/ https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies For tier-list enjoyers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/ >Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews >Monitor Hunter https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/ >Omissions -9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production) -9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080 -9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070 -"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on. Pic: >>107125862 Previous: >>107122889
I'm phone posting and it won't let me delete my first attempt>News & RumorsRTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.Nova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2">Product NoticePNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Omissions-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performanceLeave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:>>107125862Previous:>>107122889
First for best waifu.
anyone got any good planning tools for making your battlestation? i don't mean the PC itself, more like is there anything that can let you compare desks to put it on
The 96GB RAM kit I got yesterday has already gone up $20.
Romanian anon here, just ordered all the parts for my 7700 + 9060 build, thank you /pcbg/ for helping me clear out some of the doubts I had
>>107130478How much did you pay for dat, anon ?I'm desperate at this point
Are there any monitors that exist with all of or nearly all of the following features:>Non-OLED>4k>31in or larger, ideally 34-36in>Supports hardware color calibration>has at least 95% DCIP3 and Adobe RGB Coverage, ideally with both over 97%>Supports VRR>Ideally 72, 90, or 120+hz, but I'm fine with 60hz as long as VRR works between 30 and 60fps>Is under 2000$ roughly, ideally under $1500 or even less>Ideally doesn't have terrible response timesOr giving up on hardware color calibration, if the Adobe RGB coverage is 99%-100%?The closest ones I've found are the Asus Proart PA32UCDM (perfect, aside from maybe the Adobe RGB coverage, but it's OLED and I worry about burn in), some of the Proart PA32UCX (only issue is they're 60hz and 5ms response time gray to gray, not sure what its VRR range is), the Samsung Odyssey G7/G70B S32BG70 (but it lacks hardware calibration, I assume) and the Gigabyte AORUS FV43U (which is nearly perfect, aside from no hardware calibration I assume and the fact it's fucking huge, 43in)>>107130446I have my computer on with static UI elements up for 16ish hours a day, I really wouldn't want to risk it, especially since the PA32UCDM costs $2000.>>107130478>>107130520I bought a 96gb kit a few months ago for 160$, very glad I did.
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>>107130511I hope you didn't get raped on the RAM prices. God speed desu
>>107130476Go to a furniture store and try them?
>>107130511do keep us posted with the build log desu
When will RAM prices return to normal?Most kits more than doubled in price recently.
Intel/Nvidia best combo
>>107130802prices usually have a downward trend during the (european) summer (jun-aug)
I will post Jayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOFN7kljlA8Because at least a big name youtuber is finally addressing the massive AIR COOLER GOOD ENOUGH problem
>>107130802ram usually spikes up in price due to chip shortages, but now ai fags want them en masse, so probably never until the bubble bursts
>>107130825not a single graph or data points in that 20 minute gay ass video
>>107130802I hope this helps.
Completed it on AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT, now playing the sequel, also still need to finish RoboCop Rogue City: Unfinished Buisness.
I connected some basic $15 speakers to this Creative Soundblaster I had laying around and I think it sounds better than integrated audio. Is that possible or am I having audiophile hallucinations?
>>107130586Got ram before an increase>>107130689I'll update you, I'm now waiting for parts to ship.
be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 750WLian Li LANCOOL 216Do I hit buy already? Been idling on this for 12 hoursI need help. I know I probably won't get it since 4chan is slow nowadays and there's an attention economy but it sucks that I cannot ever decide. Been two years I've spent with my parts in boxes because I couldn't decide on a case or a psu.
will i regret if i wait 1+ year to build a new pc? heard ram and ssds will get expensive
>>107131044Can't speak for the PSU but I have that case (in white) and it's pretty nice, though I hear there's a slightly newer 217 now.
>>107131054>though I hear there's a slightly newer 217 now.turns out it's just aesthetics with shittier cooling
Intel and Nvidia is best combo
>>107131044>Been two years I've spent with my parts in boxes because I couldn't decide on a case or a psu.holy shit you're retarded, order it already
>>107131044750w is a bit on the low-end nowadays in terms of wattage, but the model is good
>>107130511oh yeah we remember youkeep us posted
>>107131142>>107131139THE PUS IS LOCKED INi won't go back, my gpu and cooler for cpu is already one the lowest noise profile, my only issue is the case, do I hit order?Reviews says it's very noisy in full load but that it's noisy because it's overkill and that I should curve optimize it for most tasks, especially in my currency it's the best bang for the buck by like a million miles
>>107130478Literally any bin of Hynix ram is pure gold at this pointThe current market is just as fucked as when ddr5 just launched back in 2021/2022
>>107131174please help with the case I WANT TO ORDER THIS SHIT it's been 2 fucking years, my gpu is not even modern anymore, bought it replace it in 2 -3 years and now it's been 2 years.I just need an OK on the case of two - three quick alternatives for me to check if they are above this.
>>107130802The last ram shortage lasted well over a year and that was before AI grifters were on the scene. I'd expect the current one to last just as long as the minimum.
I want to drastically undervolt and power limit my GPU but don't want to do all the trial and error work from scratch, how can I see the stock (stable) voltage/frequency curve that's built into the VBIOS?
>>107131200When was that? I don't really remember.
>>107131212Around 2017 to 2019 My 2x16gb 3200cl16 kit cost me $380 back then
>>107131212It started in 2017
>>107131206In adrenalin settings panel or msi afterburner if you have a novideo
>>107131199well I guess I'll return to it bf 2026 lol
>>107130476ikea has a 3d room planner where you can place most of their catalogue
https://x.com/unikoshardware/status/1986674389300224279RTX 50 SUPER SERIES CANCELLED - NO 3GB MODULES DUE TO DRAM/VRAM SHORTAGECURRENT CARDS WILL HAVE THEIR PRICES JACKED UP VERY SOON JUST LIKE RAM IS NOWOkayI'm done waitingI'm building this month then fucking off this entire general for 10 yearsFUCK THE EARTH BUY NOWIF YOU NEED TO BUILD NOW DO IT NOW2026 IS GOING TO BE A FUCKING SHITSHOW
>>107131321GRIM
>>107131219>>107131220Now I remember dreaming about a Ryzen 1 or 2 build and seeing $250 for 16 gb ddr4
I'm not even kidding I do believe building a PC next year will be generally impossible from parts availability, hiked pricing and the new launches coming at the end of the year if they even have the capacity to make them, they're already saying they are facing shortages. This windows changeover is making shit worse too. Paying an extra $100 for ram may be the best situation for at least a year
>>107131321not like this waitbros...8gb chads win again
>>107131199I've ordered it.
>>107131321There are 3gb modules - they are just all 100% going to DC cards and none are going to consumer so no Super seriesNvidia has AI profits to care about not gaming that literally makes less money for nvidia than selling ethernet cables
Can the AI bubble just burst already bro
>>107131321lol4090 dont fail me now
i've been postponing buying a PC for years because graphics card prices were straight up robbery, now DDR prices shoots up 2.5x it's lowest value
>>107131354>selling ethernet cables200gbit and 400gbit switches*
>>107130825>the massive AIR COOLER GOOD ENOUGH problemWhat problem?>link>"words words words, misuse of "logarithmic""OK, that's nice. A thermalright peerless assassin mini gets exactly the same number of frames in every game as a 2x420mm custom loop while probably making less noise.If you need HEDT CPU performance, there are multiple TRX-50 tower coolers which you can even overclock with.Liquid cooling enables no meaningful extra capabilities over air cooling except physical density in datacenters.
>>107131222I have an AMD card (7900GRE) and I'm on Linux (but I don't remember ever seeing something like that in Ardenalin either). I can change some power states using LACT but the curve offered much more fine control. I do remember seeing it in Afterburner last time I had an Nvidia card (1070).
>>107131394It's AI causing a pinch in supply. The layoffs have already begun. Don't be a panican.
I ordered a 2*16 kit early that's declared "out of stock" on amazonI guess I'll be getting it early 2026 if I'm lucky
I have a nuc extreme element that gets pretty hot (i9 11900kb)do you guys think putting phone cooler on its backside would be a good idea?also are magnets still bad for pcs ?
>>107131512Doesn't seem like it'll work that well. I tried something like that before with my 3080's vram and it didn't make a lick of differenceWhat about strapping a tower air cooler onto the cpu die and foregoing the sff form factor?
im trying to figure out what monitor to buy. I looked at the doc list. just trying to get main monitor 27 inch 1440p not oled or any burn in types , was thinking the aoc one
>>107131206>how can I see the stock (stable) voltage/frequency curve that's built into the VBIOS?manufacturers never show you the voltage/frequency curve because people would complain about losing the silicon lottery and return their cards
>>107131592ah i see, damn>What about strapping a tower air cooler onto the cpu die and foregoing the sff form factor?I'd have to take out the gpu or use it with a riser cable outside of the case
>>107131615what doc list, friendly anon?
>>107131621If that were the case every card would have a different VBIOS and there would be zero overclocking headroom left. The stock curve is just what even the shittiest bin will run at without issue.
are storage prices good right now? or also fuckedi'm out of the loop
>>107131713the monitor hunter google doc list of monitors im thinking aoc q27g3xmn
Can I put a PCIe 5.0 x4 ssd into a PCIe 5.0 x4 slot?
>>107131747maybe
>>107131747yea but don't complain about mustard gas later
>>107131429I have a view like this in corectrl
>>107130401new rig running good
apparently there is a aoc g40 which is a upgraded version but then there is some panel lottery bullshit where you may or may not get some bugged dimming thing. baka, just want a monitor bro
>>107131849this is giving me ram prices ptsd
>>107131747No, because your PCI-E 5.0 x4 SSD is actually an M.2 NVMe interface. It's just electronically wired for PCI-E 5.0 x4 lanes of bandwidth.Your PCI-E 5.0 x4 SSD needs to go into an M.2 NVMe slot.You can purchase an adapter card to convert you PCI-E 5.0 x4 motherboard slot into a tray that can hold your PCI-E 5.0 x4 SSD and get full performance if the motherboard slot has x4 lanes of bandwidth but if you try plugging the M.2 drive into your PCI-E slot directly like slotting in a graphics card or something you're just going to break something becuse the pins aren't compatible.
>>107131730Nah those got fucked in September too. Not as badly as ram but they cost more than earlier this year. SSDs are still normal priced, for now. Samsung and Micron have both said NAND prices will also be going up and there's coming shortages too.
>>107131936return the 5080 and buy a 4090/5090
>>107132012I'd love to, but god damn it's literally more than twice the price of the 5080.
>>107131615https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#A=2,5&C=0&D=160000,600000&F=685800000&P=2&r=256001440Does that help at all?27" IPS 166hz+ 1440pSelect your country then order by price and start checking those in your budget.
>>107131936>850 EVOit's crazy are those drives are still alive. My Dad's still using his kek
How big of a difference does an AIO liquid cooler makes vs a regular CPU fan? I'm planning a build with a 7600X and either a 9060xt 16gb or a 4070 depending on black friday deals and availability.
>>107132048thermalright got your back for 40€ for that chip
>>107132048You do not need an AIO for that. You can just use the cooler it comes with or get something better looking and more performant for $30. An AIO would solely be for aesthetics
>>107132048You can still find a 4070? Everything besides 4060s seems to disappeared like it never existed here
>>107132069Brainfart, I meant a 5070. I'm still looking at benchmarks and deciding which is better for me because I plan to play at 1080p 60hz (I don't need more)>>107132051>>107132055Thanks anon, I'll just go for a regular fan then.
>>107132087>I plan to play at 1080p 60hz (I don't need more)cast your shackles away anon, its 20261440p is right there, the card you would get, either of them is a 1440p cardIts time to let go
>>107131719VF only loosely depends on vbios. Vbios merely sets the +25mhz offset of oc cards on top of the native vf curve that's different across every piece of silicon
>>107130401What's a good miniled I can buy in Europe?
>>107132137>good miniledno such thingnot enough dimming zones
>>107132046Still going good
>>107132184Ordered two teras flash cards still look like I scammed someone shit don't work but the ai loves the extra space
>>107132184No reason to fix what isn't broken.
>>107132214Even my HDD from 2008 or so is still going strong. I'm lucky when it comes to disks
>>107130825Good stuff showing again why ITX is useless and TDP is a lie
>>107130802>When will RAM prices return to normal?Open AI is buying DRAM wafers direct from the source. The wafers. Not even split into chips yet. About 90% of the wafer becomes chips. That are buying 10% waste. That's how fucked and choked supply is. You guys really have to understand the insanity going on.
Should I just give up on getting a PC now Should I just fomo in on these ram priceshttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CTHXMYL8?psc=1This was 1$41 last night and now it's $181 for 2 16GBI don't have a PC really I'm still picking out parts
>>107132415If you give up now you'll be giving up for a least this time next year. If you can do a whole year on what you've got I'd hold out until at least Zen6/Nova Lake.
>>107132415it's 40 bucks nigga that's like 2 pizzas
Lads. My newly built pc wont start at all. The psu fan spins a bit when i press the psu power button. Same with the cpu fan. But nothing else works. Not even the power button attached to the mobo. Tried reinstalling all parts but nothing happens. Mobo brackets ok. Any clues? File size too large for upload here. https://i.imgur.com/y7zSDGe.jpeg
>>107132458
Whats the consensus for people who are looking to upgrade their gpu? If the 5080 super is around the corner is that likely to be a better price for performance than getting a regular 5080 after the super releases?
>>107132465Are you sure those are the correct slots? Basically every board out there will tell you to run dual sticks in A2/B2 and you have them in the A1/B1 slots
>>107132475>5080 super is around the corneryeah about that...>>107131321
>>107132425What if I only buy 1 16gb now? Ram works with one stick right? I know there's a performance hit or something but I don't know how much Will it really not be lower than this for a year? I might not even need 32GB. If prices are back to normal in a few months I could get 3 more 16gb for the same price as 1 now
>>107132465You are using wrong DIMM slots for sure you can even see it on the silkscreen. So start with that.
>>107132458see >>107132494>>107132477with that oversight you should really check all your connections again
>>107132487oh... okayMy second question then, whats a general good price drop percentage for gpus? They rarely seem to be reduced by much but then im not looking for them all year.
>>107132488RAM will still work even if you've got 16GB of it. 16GB is pretty low these days. I don't think it's low enough to be a massive issue, but if the choice is between 16GB and 0GB, 16 is the better option.
>>107131048Sort of. Depends on how shitty your current PC is. 1+ year is a long time to go without a decent computer.
>>107131321FUCK. BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY
>>107132477Yeah i did that before. I tried this config but that aint working either
wtf i just saw that gta6 got delayed i saw it yesterday on 4chan but i thought it was a memeit's actually true
>>107132563wrong board
>RTX 5000 SUPER CANCELLEDGET FUCKED WAITFAGS
>>107131431But the layoffs mean AI is working...
So after 6000/30CL what are the go to ram speeds for am5?Im not that worried about the price i dont mind paying extra, shit is what it is, but there is literal shortages and i dont want to wait.So 6200 or 6400 36 CL?
>>107132627Not cancelled just more expensive
>>107132415the dollar will crash before 2030you better buy some physical gold
This doesn't make sense thoIf the world needs more ram open more ram factories? Its that easy
>>107132458Did you plug in the 8-pin cpu power cable? In the top left corner.
>>107132716Yep. Tough cable to aim but its there
>>1071326336000 CL30 was the go to because you could reliably achieve those settings on 2 DIMM systems and those came with hynix a die for good OC potential. Going higher than that will switch to 1:2 divider mode for UCLK/MCLK by default. This will cause performance decrease.1:1 mode for higher RAM frequency than 3000MHz is just silicon lottery. If you care about min-maxing you should still manually set subtimings.Changing CL alone doesn't do much in terms of real life performance so don't bother with finding kit with the lowest CL if you are going to simply use XMP.
Anyone use Powerspec PCs? They're pre-builts from Microcenter using regular non custom parts. Was considering just buy something that's plug and play instead of bothering to build. They also have another build that's identical to this but with a 5070Ti for $200 cheaper
>>107130401ATX is too big!!!mATX is too big too!!!!mini Bros!! where are we in the Op?the op pic scares meee
What is the best air cooler under $100 that'll cool 250 Watts
>>107132790Arctic 360mm Freezer Pro III. Like $90
What motherboard am I supposed to get there's no info whatsoever on this in the op other than to not get asrock
>>107132807but whatever is the cheapest option that fits your use case that isn't ASrock.
>>107132692its all made in korea/taiwan.
>>107132807Decide what PBO settings you want to run and then find a VRM that will provide the current without overheating
>>107132812qrd on asrock mobo?
>>107132826any half way decent motherboard should be able to provide PBO settings without overheating unless you're sticking a 9800X3D inside like an A series motherboard with no VRM cooling at all >>107132838Their motherboards started killing CPUs especially the 3D chipset CPUs. Some were saying it was due to various BIOS settings and ASrock responded with like 7 different BIOS "fixes" by now and they're still randomly cooking people's shit.
>>107132737run the parts through pcpp and decide if the markup is worth it?do you have a link to the offer?
>>107132807cheapest b850 that has a bunch of positive reviews and has enough connectors for your shit99% of the time thats all of them so againcheapest one with a bunch of positive reviews
why are colors so dim and washed out on radeon?
>>107132886you mean nvidia they have worse color space
>>107132898radeon just has a much worse color gamut and they're very dim, HDR sucks on radeon tooproven time and time again with accurate tests
>>107132910yeah, artistic professionals like graphic designers all use NVIDIA because of radeon's borked colors
I can confirm, both my gaming pcs only output in grayscale
>>107132812>>107132868I guess this gigabyte then for 149
I got logged out of my graphics driver and I can't log back in until my parents come home
Eyey /pcbg/ anon here that bought 5060ti 16gb maybe few thread ago or so it was just installed and i will try some games to see how they play and thats all and thanks.Just tried Ark as benchmark (yeah i know the size but i dont play that much of modern games) and MAN at everything maxed + toggling some long distance high quality LODs it was ~60fps and without that long distance shit it is 100+Also regarding the monitor it dosent matter what kind of adapter im going to use ? Or does it matter since i have some cheap ones.
>>107132277>You guys really have to understand the insanity going on.Meh I'm a patient man. Give it long enough and the demand will pass and we will be left with massive oversupply and dirt cheap prices. It's a pain in the ass each time you build a PC you get fucked on at least one component.
>>107132737>Was considering just buy something that's plug and play instead of bothering to build.Enjoy having tooth paste as thermal paste.
>>107132997You forgot to enable xmp
>>107133018Not only that but he also has either 8+16GB or 3x8GB.
Okay I'll get the ID Cooling Frozn A720Was looking at a dark rock but this looks like a good saving and performance
>>107133018Yeah >>107133037My pc only had 2 ram slots so i took out 1x8 and put in a 1x16
>>107132910>>107132925nah nvidia colors are worse
>>107133018>>107133037Thats coolAnything you can tell from mine other than im a fat virgin failure (and poor)
>>107133101Looks good. If you ever get bored you can overclock your ram.
>>107132509$50 off MSRP is the best you can expect These days, GPUs are a steal if they're even at msrp
>>107132633The problem with CL36 is that you're mostly likely to stumble upon Samsung p/b-die which has a much higher likelihood of instability than 6000cl30 Hynix kits
>>107133101I had very similar setup in 2020.
>>107133221b-die....
>>107133221Look at Mr moneybags over here
>>107133236Yea, but this board didn't like 4DIMMs at all. So I could not OC them any further.>>107133248Bruh, but I'm poor failure as well. Let me have at least some toys.
>>107133221Im riding this until it catches fire, might end up buying a 5060TI at some point, not the biggest computing increase over the 3060TI (some anons talked about a 33% or so) but also access to frame gen and dlss4 and whateverAs long as it plays vidya, youtube, and porn.... i have no complains
Msi b650 tomahawk for 175 eur or msi b850 gaming plus wifi for 215?Are the newer chipset and the pcie 5 lane for the gpu worth the difference?Also can I expect some kind of discount on mobos during black friday?
>>1071332923060Ti was the last good xx60 card. Shame we can't have nice things anymore. IMO not worth upgrading to 5060Ti unless you really need more VRAM and you know you are going to use FG all the time.
>>107133332>IMO not worth upgrading to 5060Ti unless you really need more VRAM and you know you are going to use FG all the time.Not a matter of worth, i misspokeIm using this until it literally either catches fire or can't launch the next game i might want to play at at least medium/high 1080p 60fpsIf that were to happen tomorrow i would just pick a 5060TI cause is what i can bite atm, didnt mean that im actively looking for a 5060ti right nowI appreciate the advice
>>107133195Is there a site that has MSRP prices? I'm looking at the AORUS MASTER ICE because theres a $400 (dollarydoos) off listing but I have no idea how to gauge the value.
>>1071326336200 cl30 or 6000 cl28
>>107133310Why is your b850 gaming plus so expensive?It's 150€ in my slavic shithole.Also B850 and B650 are the same chipset.PCI-E 5.0 for GPU is nothingburger.
>>107131321I continue to feel better about buying a 4090 in 2022.
>>107133355Sure, I upgraded monitor to 1440p144Hz when I bought my 3060Ti so I cannot go back to enjoying 1080p60.High refresh just feels so nice.
>>107132677lol like I have either
>>107133413Yeah i should get a 1440p screen, the card can probably play most of the not so demanding shit at 1440p since im not super worried about high ultra settings
>>107132989Why are you even signing in? That hasn't been required in a long time.
>>107133357https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&page=1
>>107132989>please sign in for driver wiver bullshitlol fuck nvidiaamd gpu here i comethey also have better colors
>>107133398>>107133310I think I figured out why your price is so different, MSI has 3 boards with nearly identical names.
>>107133440looks like the current discount was also being offered as early as September so maybe they aren't budging, whats the chance that Cyber monday/black friday or the Christmas sales drop the price to a new minimum price?
how come both 120 and 144 Hz became standards?
>>107133398Here on pcpp the cheapest atx b850 is 160, there is the gaming plus wifi6e at 174 and the gaming plus wifi at 215, maybe you are watching the first modelShits get high in price fast and I don't know why
>>107132201What did he mean by this?
>>107133532yes they are usual refresh rates but standard no
>>107133532Because the common video format for film is 24p, 120 and 144Hz are multiples of 24p.120/240/360 etc. are multiples of 24, 30, & 60Hz
>>107131321AHAHAHAHAH WAITFAGS ETERNALLY BTFOdI would genuinely give a couple shots to every fellow 5090 certified anon in here with the savings
>>107133475Just don't sign in, it's only used for rewards.
>>107133686It's the principalI don't want to do driver rigmarole with Nvidia
>>107133727AMD's drivers have Twitch integration, that's way more fucked up than a rewards program.
>>107132985Yea the gaming x is pretty decent. Hardware Unboxed did 2 videos on pretty much every B850 motherboard which you might find useful.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLMTT7-rfeMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFqd7lnXlIk
>>107133434>>107133686Don't feed the Radeon troll, he was posting an image of GeForce Experience.Bringing up retired apps in 2025, that's what Retardeons do.
>>107130802when supply increases due to greater productionor when "ai bubble bursts" which is anywhere from a few years to a few decades away
>horrendously outdated Ryzen 7 3700X (he's doing his best)>upgrading meaningfully means new mobo, RAM, CPU and cooler at minimum.starting to see why black people just steal things.
>>107132277massacre all aicuckskill sam altman
>>107130910game was shit then and it's shit now
>>107133846I had a 3700x and I just upgraded to a 5700x3d for $180. 50% higher performance at least.
>>107133846>oh my god I have to spend $250 I'm going to be a fucking niggerKill yourself
>>107133860bit rude man
>>107133874So is stealing tbqhf
>>107133855>tfw got mine before everything went to hellbetween that and >>107131321 waitcucks offically got murdered today
>>107133846just buy used 5700x3d/5800x3d
>>107133855Where did you get yours?
>>107133892Amazon last December
>>107133883yeah you right. I will be a better, whiter, person going forward.
>>107132997>>107133292its a great card, specially if you OC as blackwell cards have the best OC headroom from any RTX generation, you'll see 10% uplift across games quite easily with a moderate OC, 1500 to the memory and 300-350 to the clock, retards who shit on the card dont understand how expensive light is and how having almost 3080/4070 performance when you undervolt/oc while only using 140-150W depending on your sillicon lottery is really good.
>>107133914how expensive power is*
>>1071338555700X is faster and cheaper.
>>107134037So get you one of those, I’ve been happy with my upgrade for nearly a year, personally.
>>107133896I would have thought that 5700/5800x3d wouldnt appear in amazon way earlier than thatIn my country the 5800x3d goes for like 280€ 2nd hand
>>107133939depends whether you need computer for veekend project or run 247 for twenty years
My 8320E did 4.44 GHz at 1.3V with 2570 HT/NB and 1872 ram. Then it refused to boot again because of stupid gigabyte bios bugs. Switched it out for an 8350 that I haven't played with on this board yet.
>>107134079I’mNot exactly sure what you’re trying to say but they were a lot less expensive last year and available for under $200 around Black Friday iirc.
I wasted this morning's 3DMark cold run by leaving the NVIDIA App Overlay on.
waiting for the ai bubble burst before 2026its going to happen right?
>>107131321ok /pcbg/ is time for a truth nuke, the ram shortage means consoles will be either extremely expensive or delayed which means games will continue to target the ps5 pro for the next 4 years which means that if you are happy with your current performance and not on something like an RDNA2 card there is no reason to upgrade. having said that now its time to be honest about the 5000 series.If you need a new card the 50 series is neither, "overpriced" or slow , most of them are clocked slower which explains the massive OC headroom not seen since GTX cards in the mid 2010s. >5090 30% uplift only 32VRAM card >5080/5070 TIcomfortably a tier above 4080 super after you OC them, not quite 4090 tier though>50704070 ti super performance after you OC it but $200 cheaper, in some games its 10-15% faster than 4070 super/4070 TI super and the sweet spot for high refresh 1440p gaming with DLSS>5060 TI 16GB a little below the normal 4070 outside of path tracing after you OC it, it still a 4070 with 16gb vram and more power efficiency, you can run heavily modded skyrim and shit like that with 8k textures or if you do maya or anything that requires 16gb and cant afford a 5070 TI then this is your choice, is around 25-30% slower than a 5070 but its still good enough until the next console happens because the ps5 pro is slower than this so it will hit comfortably 60 fps or above in 1440p with high settings for the next 4 years. if you want native high refresh rate and only do gaming maybe look into the 5070 if they are similarly priced.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LfGnYdFeedback plz
>>107134107its also country dependant if you are a neet that plays games more than 8 hours a day and live on a country with expensive power bills this will definetly help specially on summer, having to use AC to cool a room in which your gpu power draw is above 350W is a nightmare , i had space heater in the past the issue is that retards dont understand that what cooling solutions do is transfer those 350 W watts of heat to the case and then the case transfer it to your room.
What PSU would you recommend for a 9950X3D and 5070 Ti, with the option to upgrade to a more powerful GPU in the future?I’m looking at the Corsair RM1000x ATX 3.1 and NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1, both seem solid based on the best PSU guide. However, I really don’t like the fan stop feature on the Corsair. I’d prefer the fan to spin at all times like on my current Seasonic 850W. Since I want to keep my current PC intact, I can’t reuse that PSU.Any suggestions? Also large PSUs (200mm+) won’t fit. EU market
>>107134267there is a button on the back of the psu that turns the fan to always on
>>107134267hx1200iAlso why dont you like the zero rpm mode, it just stops the fan when its cool and not under load
For a white build, is there a manufacturer who really takes it seriously? I want it to be really, really huwhite.
>>107134204I'm just seeing what I can build now and if a 5070 or 5070TI would be worth it. I was holding out for 18GB 5070 but now I just don't fucking now.
>>107134334If you really care about the shade of white, best of luck to you. You’ll be lucky if half your parts are some warm shade like eggshell and the other half with be cool. White parts are such a crapshoot.
>>107134334you'll never be able to fully white match it especially when brands will throw on silver for absolutely no reason
>>1071304784 din 32gb ddr3 kits doubled this week. $60?? Fuckers
>>107134334you maybe want intel b luna gpu
>>107134366>>107134406Sigh. A white closed case it is, then.
>>107134168sorry im esl as fucki meant that i thought they were discontinued so long ago that they wouldnt even be any left in amazon or anywhere other than the 2nd hand market by that date (december of 2024) im obviously overestimating when they were discontinued and whn the supply ran out
>>107134285>there is a button on the back of the psu that turns the fan to always onOn the Corsair there’s a knob, but its functionality isn’t clear. Corsair doesn’t state that it turns off the fan stop feature, instead they say it lets you adjust the fan speed up or down, which is pretty stupid compared to a simple button that just enables or disables fan stop mode.>>107134292>hx1200iDo you think it will fit in the Corsair 5000T without having to remove the HDD bays? I’ve watched a few reviews, but they always take the HDD bay out>Also why dont you like the zero rpm mode, it just stops the fan when its cool and not under loadIt’s better for electronic components to stay cool all the time. Fan stop just strains the fan and adds unnecessary heat cycles, since at certain load levels it will constantly turn on and off
>>107134481>Corsair 5000TIt says that its compatible with all shift PSU, but you could always ask corsair supportThese are components that come with 10 year warranty and can easily last 5-10 years more
I think I'm gonna get a Walmart gaming PC on Black Friday. They have gaming PCs at Walmart now.
THE DEALS HAVE BEGUN! THE DEAL IS MSRP
>Bought the new Hyte case>Ordered fans to go with it>Got PCI-E risers insteadI fucking hate this company, never again.
it's insane how so many companies in this are shit at selling and shipping their own products
>>107134645Some 9070xt have been at msrp on my country for a month or so, bottom tier models sure but they are thereMeanwhile the fucking cheapest 5070TI is 175€ more expensive than the cheapest 9070xtFuck you Hensen
Should I get a nvme now or wait for black friday?
>>107134720that's the price for not falling for an AMD gpu again
>>107134727they've been cheap throughout the year
>>107134720Spend the extra money to have driver support, unless you plan on selling the AMD card within the next year or so.
>>107134727doesn't matter
>>107134771>nvidia>good driversonions, last unproblematic nvidia driver was released more than an year ago
>>107134781Oh god the radeon shill is back. Go back to defending RDNA 1 and 2 getting fucking dropped already, retard.
>amd bad>no>wtf thats shillingoh looks like he woke upenjoy the thread i guess
>>107134798not that anon but you dont have to make shit up, nvidia drivers been fine since april, we have hard numbers that blackwell have sold around 20m gpus and nearly 10% of the steam playerbase use system with them integrated, if the drivers were still bad do you even realize how much noise would it be around it.
what's with the novideo shills
amd is garbage that supports hardware for 4 years
>>107134822i didnt even say anything about the green brand, i was talking about cpus earlier itt
>>107134787but they arent?!?
>>107134781>onions, last unproblematic nvidia driver was released more than an year agoNo issues on my 4090 or 5070Ti PC. You're just lying.
>>107134852>goyim, legacy support is just as good as regular supportFuck off, rabbi.
I want to build an ITX PC that takes up as little space as possible, being able to use an RTX 5070 Ti SFF and a utra 7 or Ryzen 7 9000, which part do you recommend?>muh, space, heatI know, I plan to use Undervolting
>>107134136the 8350 needs 60mV more at the same settings
Just realized that the new GPU coming means I need a new monitor since new ones don't support DVI anymore and HDMI1 doesn't go above 60hz kinda defeating the purpose of a 120hz monitor with a better GPU.
>>107134873just set a custom resolution with the same timings as the dvi resolutionworks for me
>>107134873i always mention the monitor when people talk here about updating a new gpu on an older system
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>>107134866fractal terra case looks nicespecific gpu doesnt matter as long as it fits the case and you avoid thickest coolers since the case limits the cpu height depending on the gpu size
Would it be wise to wait for black friday? Im trying to build a pc and as of now i can buy everything for 1k which is within my budget
>>107134943yes. get a Walmart gaming pc on Black Friday. that's what I am doing.
>>107134891will depend on the resolution since you're still stuck with the single link limitation
>>107134943the stuff you want wont have any meaningful discount on black fridaydo you think they are discounting popular mobos cpus and ramkits?they will put shit like fan hubs on sale and shitty monitors
You can apparently get an NH-D15 G2 LBC for 130 eurobucks (as I informed the keythttps://www.amazon.nl/dp/B0D5B5B821What sort of Dutch satanic ritual is this
>>107135038
>>107134860>legacy support
>>107135049You can find local sellers that will still have it near that price (as I just did)
>>107135030Thanks for confirming my suspicions
It's NovemberWhy haven't the CPUs lowered in price
>>107135115They did
>>107135115there was some extremely cheap warrantless tray cpus on aliexpress
>>107131431When is it gonna stop
>>107135207It's not
by 2027 the only way to have a consumer pc to consume anime tiddies will be moving to Taiwan and start working on a ram factory
>>107132277Does this mean prices will keep going up in the next 5-10 years?
>>107135331It means welcome to the new normal.
>>107135331Elon Musk is about to become the world's first trillionaire. When Sam Altman becomes the 2nd the prices will drop.
>>107135207Why would you want it to stop?
>>107135420was the plandemic not enough for you
i think im gonna get a Walmart gaming pc on black friday
>>107135456Go for it this is the third time you said it
installed Roblox launcherinstalled riot gamesinstalled osu!installed plarium playinstalled google play games pcinstalled runescapeinstalled steaminstalled battle.netinstalled epic gamesinstalled ea launcherinstalled uplayinstalled gog galaxyinstalled xbox didn't install discord.yep, I think it's gaming time!
>>107135546I am
>>107132746Hey! My case made the OP!Big case in use. It's so nice working in one of these compared to newer small cases.
God I love this thing. How could I live without that scroll wheel for so long?
>>107135763>sixty hertz
I thought I could build but the idea of paying £200 for 32GB of ram when I know it was literally £100 just a few weeks ago is making me seethe like crazy
>>107135757B850 Aorus Elite AX, MSI Tomahawk, or ASUS TUF are usually overkill for most gamers.Grats on the price match, that's near an all-time low price.
>>107135757depends on which flavor of shit you like the most desu>>107131321PERPETUUM BUCKBREAKILE>captcha: MGGTR
AHAHAHSUPER/TI rehashes of the 50 series have been cancelled because of low 3gb gddr7 chips supply.the absolute state of nvidia.
>>107135867It'll launch 5090 showed us nvidia isn't above "launching" a card with no stock
>>107135772*spins*
>Lancool 217 infinity puts IO on the topfuck yes >it's a glass abomination with fans embedded inside the front glasswhat the fuck why
>>107135905glass case*shatters*kek
>>107135905Take the Meshify 3/XL pill. But they're no longer discounted.
>>107135923sometimes i really hate lian li
>>107135882I wonder if the 6090 release will be even worse since 2nm is so expensive and still has so much production waste.
>>107135973Not to mention Apple has basically bought all of it already
>>107135867>he thinks is only nvidiadram and ssd prices have skyrocket, i expect new gen consoles to suffer the same fat
>>107135905Put it on the desk you fag. The world must know about your gaming street cred.
>>107135867>the absolute state of nvidiaDon't act like AMD will get more favorable GDDR7 supply contracts in the future, that's the reason why their Radeon cards are still using GDDR6.AMD can't even get memory IC manufacturers to design custom chips like GDDR6X because Radeon GPUs aren't popular enough to justify the entire operation.
>>107135054They are still on the maintenance branch, which is the polaris and vega branch and we all know the radeon 7 was matching the 6600xt before they were moved unto that branch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkPPejQXFNo
>>107136005>maintenance branchthat was a german mistranslation it is the Special RDNA1/2 Optimized branch using years of knowledge and techniques gained from their years of service and millions of units sold
why doesn't TSMC just charge double the price?it's not like there is any competition.
>>107135800Soon you'll be saying that about the times you could have gotten them for £200
>>107136017no german mistranslation, that branch is literally the vegas/polaris branch, amd has literally ONLY 2 branches with the combined branch being a 1 GB's
>>107136019There's a point where TSMC customers will just switch to Samsung if the math doesn't add up.Or they'll delay new product releases until Samsung and Intel can make similar chips.
>>107136019If it gets too expensive then companies move elsewhere.There is competition from Samsung and even if they may be only 80% of TSMC performance, the relative cost difference when TSMC charges too much means companies might eventually tune their architectures for Samsung.
>>107136017bullshit
>>107136019Trump would declare war on them
I'm currently running a 2700x and a 2080 super, with 2x16GB of RAM. Would it make sense to upgrade to a 5700x or 5800x as my last upgrade before building an AM5 rig in a couple years?My primary use case is light gaming with a 4k monitor at 60hz, stuff like cyberpunk i run with DLSS.I also am getting into CAD for 3d printing and would like something a bit more powerful for rendering.
>>107136060>>107136037good luck getting the capacity which TSMC has from fucking Samsung lmao
>>107135882Californian privilege
>>107129835they buy dead pcbs and just swap it I am guessing>>107129711>my monitor already died after 2 years, so now im looking for a new one. i dont want oled because of burn in, whats the best one to get?another LCDs last forever victim
is a wooting 60he v2 worth 255€?do I buy the module and all the stuff lads
Any rumors on availability of the Intel B60 yet?
>>107136308Wooting is worth it if you need it. If you just want to play around with hall effect switches, there are cheapo Chinese options for that now.
>>107136308Are you under 15000 in CS2?
>>107129711most likely bad caps take the back panel off and replace them my monitor has tried to die on me like that beforeNOT IN THIS LIFE JEWBERG
Got this OLED on sale (never had an oled screen before that wasnt a phone). I did read that oled monitors aren't as bright as IPS/VA ones, so a bit worried the screen might be too dim but we'll see. At this price it was hard to pass up but hopefully wont need to return it. Also any suggestions on how HDR stuff works in games?
>>107136308Some people claim they are expensive compared to competitors but I never checked. I got myself a 80HE and it's the best keyboard I've ever had honestly but by far the most expensive as well.
>>107136597>OLED monitors finally affordable>Building a PC becomes totally unaffordable the gods see fit to kiss my cheek while they fuck me in the ass
>DDR5 is becoming stupid expensive>only built my rig with 32 GBIs it possible to get another pair of 16 GB sticks of the same type (G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo), throw them in and have 64 GB total?CPU/Mobo is 7900X and MSI B650M Mortar Wifi.
>>107136597Why can't I ever find as good of a deal for OLED monitors in Euroland?
>>107136597>Also any suggestions on how HDR stuff works in games?Basically, learn how to use RenoDX.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBMbyWuFd5chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLBZUCY4lJkhttps://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/heres-why-you-should-only-enable-hdr-mode-on-your-pc-when-you-are-viewing-hdr-content
>>107136671It's Europe. We are fucked. It's that simple.
>get a relatively good ram deal on amazon>We will email you when we have an estimated delivery date.>adjacent models have estimated dates between late december to late januaryhope my other components are comfy in their boxes
>>107136669Depends, if it doesn't work you might have to reduce the timings. 100% sure you are not going to be overclocking 4 sticks of RAM though.
>order aio I always wanted 13 hours ago.>they stealth announced an updated version 11 hours ago.omfg... should I just go with the old version or wait 2 weeks until the new version releases?I really don't want to be a waitfag but this timing man...
>>107136691I will Just Wait™ for a glossy 4k 32" 4th gen WOLED then.I hope those will cost less than 1000€.
>>107136644Yeah seriously. I got ram in september (64gb ddr5 6000 cl30 for 220), that ram is now like 550 bucks.>>107136671Been to europe twice, prices for tech always shock me there, sorry man.>>107136690Thank you will take a look!
>>107136730I'd personally get the new one but be warned that it might get revised over the time and may have initial release issues.
>>107136610>>107136610>>107136610
>>107136337I don't want dodgy software and they are all ansi layouts also, which brings me to the question any anons use ISO layout but use ANSI keyboards? considering ergonomics and modabilityworth buying ansi if you are are on an iso layout anyway? idk>>107136454haven't played cs since the early 2000s, rest assured I am the goat
>>107136730i'd be too lazy to give a shit it's bad enough dealing with my awful delivery companies already
>>107136703I might give it a miss then, I don't strictly need 64 GB and hopefully the AI bubble will burst soon and all the surplus shit will drop RAM prices...
>>107136671you have to wait for flash deals and specific dealsbest deal I ever saw yet was s81sf for 500€ and g80sd for 600€cheapest the 27" 4k panel has ever been is in the xg27ucdm for 860€ mostly hovering at 950€ which as you can see is like twice the pricecheapest I ever saw the 32" panel alsobut, I kid you not when I say that software and monitor implementation is the most important things now in these oledsor you will suffer eternally with shitty pixel refresh and jumping pixelsso you CAN'T even buy the shittiest cheap stuff which is usually AOC and shit, because they are pure garbage alsoI'd rather use and LCD than get cucked like that again>>107136756the truegloss old panel 32" is 1300€ how will the new tandem memes be any lessthey will be more for sure
>>107136671>>107136690https://www.guru3d.com/story/aoc-q27g4sdr-360hz-qd-oled-monitor-with-hdr-for-under/AOC to the rescue.