>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700) Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsPricing on ram or anything with memory is only going to worse, consume now/in the near futureRTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.Nova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7>Product NoticeGigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:>>107236127>>107231219Previous:>>107233005
all the RAM is being used to simulate my Jeanne goth gf
Okay I have ramwhat now
>>107238460you play league/wow and peruse 4chan like you did before
>>107238460start overclocking
>>107238474>>107238497no you don't understand I ONLY have RAM so what now
>>107238152Love that case. Too bad it's in such a shape.
Found this on Market Place. Worth the buy?
>>107238524You need a motherboard, a power supply and a cpu, at least.
>>107238460
>>107238524get a job poorfag, thats what you do. Maybe suck dicks on grindr for cash, if you're this dumb thats probably all you're good for.>>107238541if you can see evidence that it works sure.
>>107238524It's Gaming Time
>>107238152>buy $20 Razer Deathadder>it falls apart in 3-5 years>buy it again>repeatwhy do bougie mousesissies stress so much about this stuff?
I have an audio interface that uses a usb power cord, but it's not long enough to reach my computer. my computer is like 8 feet away from the interface. do I need an active extender or can I get away with a passive extender?
>>107238658get active extender
>>107238678
>>107238622I still have the $30 corsair mouse I bought 11 years ago. Wheel click stopped working and the rubber on the side is wore down to the plastic but no issue outside of that.
>>107238622These deathadders havent fallen apart nearly as quickly ever since they added the optical switches. They only lasted 2 years with me before giving up.
>>107238566>>107238374Fans doing some high pitch sound.I will have to see if I hear it during gameplay when there is sound anyway.basically same problem as them, same RTX 5070 TIhttps://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1m4cphp/pny_5070_ti_constant_scratchinghissing_fan_noise/https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1ley0dq/is_this_gpu_fan_noise_normal_5070_ti_pny_oc/
>>107238860My hope is ball bearing need some time to lubricate.
>>107238658>audio interfacespeak english you fucking pseud. If its a usb socket, use a 3.0 usb extender cable, they're like 3 bucks on ebay.
>>107238888>audio interface>speak english you fucking pseud??
>>107238903>he's an audiophile so he refuses to use standard english for standard productsnow it makes sense lmao.
How retarded would I be to buy an AMD GPU right now, as a Linux gamer?
>>107238957I mean it's the only choice else get a phone
>>107236825a couple years ago I got a bunch of seemingly busted G502s for 3-4 eur a popturned out that all their issues were related to worn out cablesresoldered them and replaced a couple USB plugs and now I'm set for life wrt mice
>>107238956audio interface? that's an extremely common term. if you didn't know that you're retarded. what other term am I supposed to use? that's literally what the product is called.
>>107238541Price seems too low.
>used low tier 5080 almost 1500 smackersYep, I can see it now, these next few years are going to be hell. I bet not only are they not going to make 5000 supers but the 6000 line will be delayed. We're stuck with what we got, old stuck is running out and everything is going to be scalped to hell. This is how gaben will win because any other option will be insanity.
>that's literally what the product is called.Hey guys what mechanical instrumentation panels are you using on your common operating machine's? my Corsair K97 mechanical instrumentation device has a broken space input-key and i need a new one.
>>107238152>4K : 5070ti, 9070XTWith a lot of upscaling, right?
>>107239092Anyone can run 4k, just turn down settings and fps.
Do I get the Lian Li Lancool 217 white? Or what do you suggest?I ideally want it to haveWhiteDust filtersIf possible front usb ports from above Atleast 1-2 hdd slots and 2-4 data ssd slotsMore modern released case
>>107239129>Do I get the Lian Li Lancool 217>front usb ports from abovepick one
Anyone who didn't fall for a gaming headset should at least have heard the term at some point but instead of admitting your own retardation you keep doubling down.
>>107239129Yeah. The Lancool is a pretty good case. Comes with fans too.
>>107239092Depends on the game and desired fps. If you want something that consistently gives you 4k/120 native, the 5090 is the only option.
A graphics card? whoop de doo look at mister scientist over here
>>107239138I don't understand why this is such a big issue for you dumb niggers, if USB is make or break for you then why aren't you primarily using the top speed slots from your mobo in the back?Is having an usb drive on the top which is easier to access that much of an issue?
>>107239169of course it fucking is that's why they fucking changed it in the infinity so many people seethed about it they literally had to make it possible in the next model you retard
>>107239205But Lian li had those top usbs for a long time now.
Uh oh normalfag having a melty look out
>>107239214EXACTLY WHICH IS WHY I'M PISSED THEY DIDN'T DO IT IN THE 217 TO BEGIN WITH
>>107239226Ok but WHY is it an issue you fucking nigger?
Where in the absolute fuck are the gen 4 ssd deals?
>>107238152Is this fine for 1080 on modern games + heavy emulation? Any glaring issues?https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CV3WxgBudget would probably be 3k CAD at most, which is something like 2100 USD. I miiiight try 1440 at some point down the line but that's a big maybe
guys im excited for my new computer
>>107239092Yes, dlss performance is good and fsr4 performance is "good enough"Native/near native 4k is retarded anyways
>>107239231Subhumans have tiny desks so they put the pc on their dirt floor.
>>107239169It’s just convenience when I plug in my drawing tablet, charge my mouse, transfer stuff, not a neccesity
>>107239280But wouldn't a top USB port be better in that case?>>107239285Yeah but you'd want to use the back ports for that anyways, otherwise you'd have a mess of cables poking in the front and direct mobo ports are better anyways.I genuinely don't get it.
>>107239254>Any glaring issuesYeah you're using an x3d + low end gpu. Modern games you're going to be way way gpu bottlenecked, and emulation doesn't care about the cache as much. So I mean it'll work but the processor is way overkill, you'd be better off buying a 7600x (or even 7800x3d) with a faster gpu.
>>107239323>But wouldn't a top USB port be better in that case?Yes that is why they are always crying when a case doesn't have them.
>Pairing a shit tier gpu with the le heckin best gaming cpu>AAA slopAre they stupid or something?
>>107238460Sell it at a higher rate and profit
he will not stop unless everyone has a 2500k and a 5090d
Bros...I'm tempted to get a pre-built. Which brand would be the best option?
>>107239367>he will not stop unless everyone has a 2500k and a 5090dThis poster sounds based
Does it sound normal to you anons?https://litter.catbox.moe/n7w38fgg95br8g6b.mp4
>>107239393Yes. Now go get some chocolate, marshmellows and cinnamon crackers
What are these 4-pin GPU FAN cables called? I'm trying to get some for a project but I don't know what to look for exactly.Is ít a PH Series 4-Pin Connector? How hard is it to wire to a regular 4-pin desktop fan?
How good do you anons think Black Friday will be this year? For example, the specific rtx5070 I want is 6% over msrp right now, or I could buy a slightly used one for 6% under msrp. Upgrading from a 2070s btw. What do think? Should I just go ahead and buy, or wait and see? Can't tell what's going to happen this year because of the looming ram shortage next year.
>>107239393thats what dual ball bearing fans sound likethose removable magnet fans they use on sapphire and xfx are for cleaning but also noise reduction
Is the gel problem really that bad on the gigabyte 9070 xt?
Hope you guys are taking time off tomorrow, you don't want to miss out on these incredible deals do you?
>>107239495GODLIKE MOBO?? OMG OMG
>>107239494it cosmetically looks ugly but it doesnt harm anything. its like using thermal putty, as long as it doesnt touch the gold connector its fine.
>>107239247>ssd deals>'He's waiting for SSD deals in 2025 Black Friday">>1072394544-pin PWM y splitter fan cablehttps://www.newegg.com/p/37B-0003-00952
>>107239461Check it's historic price before making the decision, also ti depends on your budget if the diference is small brand new + 5 year warranty its better
>>107239461black friday will be shit unless you're trying to buy a tv or psu.
>>107238541Only if the owner is nearby and lets you test it to confirm it's working. That card still goes for around $1k elsewhere on the used and refurb market.
guys i just bought a MSI ASUS ASSASSIN TOMAHAWK GODLIKE PRO B851 EVO MASS EXTERMINATION MAGNUM 50G WIFI GAMING FATHERBOARD with 256 GB CORSHIT 6000 CL 9-11 RAM in BLACK GORE HUMAN SUFFERING NOVEMBER from EXPIREDEGG.COM
>>107239536>4-pin PWM y splitter fan cableif you look closely you can see that's not it, but thanks for the reply.
>>107239570>that man just bought a MSI ASUS ASSASSIN TOMAHAWK GODLIKE PRO B851 EVO MASS EXTERMINATION MAGNUM 50G WIFI GAMING FATHERBOARD with 256 GB CORSHIT 6000 CL 9-11 RAM in BLACK GORE HUMAN SUFFERING NOVEMBER from EXPIREDEGG.COM
>>107239454>>107239571Yeah my bad. Looks like some sellers call it JST-PH 4-pin https://www.moddiy.com/products/1514/4-Pin-PWM-Fan-Connector-Female-to-4-Pin-Mini-GPU-Fan-Connector-Male.htmlhttps://www.amazon.com/CRJ-Splitter-Adapter-Cable-Graphics/dp/B07T95C68T?th=1
>>107239247mein nigger, deals are for not quite that sought for parts (excess stock)good stuff only gets discounted if previously inflated
>>107239272I'm happy for you.
>>107239272Nice, what did you get?
>ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)where does one find this in europe? feels like unobtainium.
>>107239145>Anyone who didn't fall for a gaming headsetNot only are you an autistic retard, but you have a studio mic setup at your desk lol what a faggot
>>107239461I've already done most of my shopping, the discounts are worse atm.
>>107239657>>107239673keeping my old 970 cuz i dont game
>>107239724>Case Fan: upHereLol nice.
>>107239461The deals are on right now, best you can hope for is some CPU deals a lot of the GPU ones are already on, you can find 5070/5070TI and RDOA4 cards under msrp already.
>>107239562Well it's the lowest it's ever been and the difference between new/used is 12%. I'm a poorfag hence the 5070 non-ti version. Never bought a used one before but thought maybe since it's 8 months old max it'd be worth>>107239565Kinda what I've been thinking but predict that shit will sell out anyways because everybody waits for BF to buy upgrades nowadays.If I thought the price would hold without it selling out I'd wait until december for an additional 5% cashback, but suspect I'll get fucked over by doing that
>>107239254What the other anon said is true, you could balance the cpu/gpu betterI added a phantom spirit instead, is the evolution of the cooler you picked for the same price, it only listed the rgb one but im confident that if you search amazon for the regular one you will find it, pcpp has trouble picking themSwitched your ram to a cheaper one to save 50, and the psu to an A- on the tier list to save another 50You could switch to a cheaper mobo, i think that tomahawks are very good but they are also slightly overpriced imo since MSI knows they sell on nameThen put a 7800x3d and a 9070xt Its 420CAD more expensive but its a much better overall composition for longer lifespan and tackling newer games, its also a very much 1440p capable setup. You can also add back the 9800x3d if you wantHowever if you truly just want to play @1080 and emulators i would just switch the cpu to the 7800x3d or a 9600x mainly for the savings, switch the ram and psu as i did to save a bit more and thats about it. Just keep in mind that the 9060xt 16gb is probably the lowest possible gpu most of us would even consider right now to play newer AAA slop and will eventually run out of steam if you start playing @1440pDo you want a rikishi? I have already talked about the only canadian rikishi to reach professional sumo so im not gonna repeat it.How about Nishikifuji Ryūsei he has had a very rough career. In 2022 reaching the top division and finishing his first tournament at that rank with a fantastic 10-5 record that earned him a "fighting spirit" prize. But then having trouble to stay at the top division due to injuries. He has just rejoined the top division for the current basho after spending most of the previous years in the second division and is current on a very decent 6-3 score, inching close to getting an early winning record for this basho!
>>107239724>I don't game>9800X3DWhat the fuck?
will buying a 15kg case be a mistake?
>>107239747ALL OF THATALL OF THATANd i forget to link the list https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rKgZt3I got carried typing about Nishikifuji
https://www.techpowerup.com/342990/amd-reportedly-planning-gpu-price-increase-as-memory-costs-spikeYOU WILL OWN NOTHING, GOYIM CATTLEYOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL LIKE IT
>>107239751I do DSP>>107239735ya the fans was placeholder that's the one thing I need to research
I'm going to buy a Barracuda 8TB hard drive for 180 euros and no one's stopping me
>>107239776I'm going to be on my 4090 forever
>>107239776just boughted, waiters in shambles
>>107239776I'LL SAY IT UNTIL YOU GET ITBUILD NOW DO NOT WAIT DO NOT WAITFAG BUY THE FUCKING GPU THIS MONTH BUY THE HOLE PC THIS MONTH ORDER YOUR RAM TODAY DO NOT WAITFAG DO NOT WAITFAG DO NOT WAITFAG DO NOT WAITFAG
>>107239254>2100 for a 9060 buildNigga you need to cut back. Unless your use case is playing extremely computationally intense simulators on lower graphics settings I can't see why you'd want to pair the best gaming CPU available with POS AMD ewaste. Also, what features are you getting that matter with a midrange motherboard? MSI makes great boards for 100 (US) bucks cheaper.
This is unironically the most I've ever seen people buying shit ITT
>>107239777Darksydephil-ing doesn't require a 9800X3D either.
>>107239254That 9060xt and 9800x3d pairing is retarded. Get a lower end CPU and at least a 9070xt.
>>107239776anything that uses nand is going upramssdsgpusphonesetc
>>107239693Preorders started in the UK, and someone shared this product page.Guessing it's Finland?
this is just a fud, I'll keep waiting for the AI crash in 3 months
>>107239777Wouldn't you be better off with a 9900X?
>>107239832dont know if you're joking, DSP means digital signal processing
>>107239776this is real disgusting from AMD they are using 7 year old GDDR6 that costs fucking nothing and talking first about price hikes for GPUs
Okay then, is a 12% difference between a used vs new GPU worth the risk or not? That's like $77 and I'm a poorfag but never bought used before
>>107239858>AI crashbasically the entire American economy is just building data centers, if you're American you'll be eating beans
>>107239866>dont know if you're joking,Come on now.>>107239776Total AI death.
>>107239886I've only ever bought used GPUs always worked out fine for me but I do a lotta research first$77 would make me get a used one over new that's a big chunk saved
>>107239863how come? which is better? I haven't bought the CPU yet so im open to either. the DSP project im doing is very out of the ordinary and is actually more memory oriented than compute, so the large L3 is a big bonus, and im more concerned with single core performance, though not sure.>>107239903sorry im retarded
>>107239858>mfw i got a future-proof upgrade to my rig early this year and don't need to worry about price spikes for the next 3+ years minimum.Any other anons in my boat? show us your smug face
>>107238152>PC Building GeneralNot building it until the ram prices come down. They will come down, right? ...R-RIGHT?
>>107239384The only point to getting a pre built is like early this year when next gen GPU releases were botched and you could get a better deal on a prebuilt from last gen than buying an old stock card. They're scams, you pay a premium for cheap wholesale dogshit crammed together to make as much money from poorly informed buyers on the headlining CPU-GPU combo as possible. A PC takes like 4 hours at most if you've never done it and you'll feel accomplished that you built your own little custom hot rod.That being said, Microcenter's in store brand is decent value and quality, but again pre-builts are for retards and children.
>>107239908I did it right before Trump got in office because I was afraid of tariffs. I wish I got more RAM but I'm quite happy for now.
>>107239916it's not looking good until 2027
I'm still seething that ram kit went from £219 to £299 in like 3 hours
>>107239916Maybe in 2027, but probably not. By then it will be the new normal so the prices will probablystick to where they've been.
>>107239857It is an lg panel? I wish asus started using their rgb stripe (used on pro art series) on regular consumer panels (they are too jewish to do that though)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7NAdTF8syQNO STOP CALLING IT GOOD FUCK
>>107239886Check the pics, and check seller's other items. If you see PCI-E riser with lot of other GPUs, avoid, probably mined. If the user has nothing much else, it's probably just a regular user upgrading.
>>107239494The actual gel leaking really instead a problem if it's just over application like they say, but gigabyte is such a sheisty company I'm predicting the thermal goon goop they use is going to have pump out problems and poor longevity. Just buy a sapphire or power color or any other card that has thermal pads, they're more efficient anyways.
>>107239495>Mobos over 200 bucksISHYGDDT
>>107239986It's overapplication. Those boards are completely slathered in that thermal goop just check jayz video on it
>>107239994But my IO and PCI-E lanes
>>107239908I upgraded everything in September right before RAM prices exploded.
>>107239966It's LG's newest 4th-gen, Tandem OLED panel.https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27aqwmg/
>>107239994He pays $800 for the motherboard and $800 for the technical support from one of the three guys in the world who know how to make it work with some weird custom BIOS.
>>107239697>xhe fell for the gaming headsetmy condolence
>>107239906>>107239985Okay. Seller has a pic of his fat pink hand holding it says was used in a test system for only an hour. Doesn't have much feedback but it's all positive and only sold 1 other item. Seems they're mainly a buyer. Doesn't accept returns though...
>posting amazon links is now spamBruh..................................................................................
>>107240134meanwhile chink shit general posts all the aliexpress trash they want
should I get 120 or 140 for my fans? need 1 for the back and 2 for the top. any recs? not doing anything crazy, just want them quiet and long-lasting
>>107240156>quiet140s
>>107240100Fuck it i bought. Hope i didn't fuck up
>>107240166ty
Posting my build again just to check for more input.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8d7vTM>for gaming, music production, video editing>must be as quiet as possible, hence my fan and GPU selectionShould I go for the 9950X instead?
>Intel® Core™ i7-14700F Desktop Processor 20 cores (8 P-cores + 12 E-cores) up to 5.4 GHz>AMD Ryzensets 7 9700X Processor (8 Cores/16 Threads) 65W DTP, AM5 socket, 40MB Cache, Up to 5.5 GHz max boost frequency, no cooler>Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 Desktop Processor 265K 20 cores (8 P-cores + 12 E-cores) up to 5.5 GHzAll around $300This gonna be a tough choice
>>107240172>he paid 400 dollars for a picture of a gpu lmew
>>107240156Fractal Momentum 14 for case airflow.They run relatively quietly @ 1,000 RPM.
>>107240215Those fans are the best thing the Epoch has going for it
>>107240026Just stop being a poorfag who cannot afford a micro RGB $30k set
>>107238541This is a scammer anon>>107240065not all headsets are 20 dollar Chinese junk, anon. All of them are, however, more convenient than building a faggy studio setup in your house, or in your case, less pathetic than having no friends>>107240172>it's a shipped GPU>on FB >for 600 bucks under market ratesYou better be kidding anon. You just got scammed.
>>107240181Change all the case fans to 5x Momentum 14 and 3x Momentum 12.You only spend around $80 more upgrading to a 9950X.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mZVf3wChange that thermal paste to an Arctic MX-6 or TG Duronaut.If you buy the MX-6, don't use a spreader (X application is fine).It makes no sense to buy all those Noctua fans and use a 7900X CPU.
>>107240181Why are you buying windows broski
>>107240327It's a normalfag thing, my brother paid almost 200 dollars for his copy.
>>107240214>>107240293It was $555 on fleabay. GET IT RIGHT
>>107240293If connecting a microphone to an audio interface is too complex for you then I wouldn't advice you to bother with PC building. Enjoy your overpriced RGB lighting gaming cat ears.
>>107240368don't say audio interface or this guy will come after you >>107238888
>>107240309I'll do it as long as they're as quiet as the Noctuas, thank you!>>107240327Good question honestly.
>>107239324>>107239820>>107239837Alright thanks, I should have mentioned that I'm retarded and know nothing about PC parts so I'm just going off what little I understood from some research I did>>107239747>You could switch to a cheaper moboAny you'd recommend?
>>107239837>>That 9060xt and 9800x3d pairingthe r/buildapc special
Lotta people clowning on his choices and very few people offering a better list>>107240497nothing wrong with the tomahawk as i said its a super safe board that sells very well but its not your first pick when going by "budget" as mobos are an easy part to cut some cornersMaybe picrel for -100CAD and usually is a bit more expensive.We could go cheaper with B650s but this one seems good enough.
>>107240337>tfw paid 150 bucks for a W8 license before I learned about the activation meme
Should i get a B650 or a B850 mobo, does it even matter?
>>107240368>get up to make food or walk around the house or chill and talk on the couch without gaming or working>can't>none of my friends notice I'm gone nor comment about the consistent crisp neutral tones of my $500 studio mic that is CLEARLY evident over the giga compressed team chat software audio >at least I don't have a CRINGE headset like a child or a casual or a filthy trucker!
>>107240694There is no clear cut answer. You will have to research on your own and figure out what features you want from a motherboard and how much you are willing to spend. If your entire goal is the build to be "working" then no, it doesn't matter, with about a thousand asterisks
>>107240694if you're asking that then no it does not buy the cheapest board and go play games
>>107240694B850 has one PCIe Gen 5.0 x4 slot for Gen 5 NVMe drives, and some might include USB4.If a higher-end B650 board is available at a cheaper price, I'd probably get that over a more basic B850 model.
>>107240694check the differences between them, b850 are often just a remake of their b650 counterparts which translates to very small upgrades, better heatsinks, better wifi (usually) maybe better usb ports, might have a gen 5 pcie for a slightly faster gpu or a gen 5 m2 slot if you buy such a disk.... its about what the specific b650 and b850 you are checking have and what you needThat said everything the same i often recommend the b850 models if the price is not outrageous (maybe +30$ over the same b650) i think that having a more modern seat might age better if in the future you want to slot a zen6 chip
>>107238152I want an oled monitor, but I'm not a gaymer
>>107240771Buy a nice OLED TV, they're all discounted atm.
when does the 9800x3d go on sale
>>107240792On Thursday
>>107240708Cool story but why do you think someone needs to spend 500 on a microphone and interface to be better than the best gaming headset? Cause some retarded audiophiles do?
>>107240708>friends
>>107240497For mobos over the main difference between price points in a reputable brand is firstly chipset (that's your B650/850/X870 etc, you can do your own research on those) and then feature based, not really performance based. For the most part, a 150 dollar B850 from MSI will perform exactly the same as a 400 dollar one in games and benchmarks. After chipset comes features like case compatibility, ports and slots (quality, modernity, and number), power phases, heat sinks, wifi card. If you plan on over locking to the tits or running a bunch of hungry expensive accessories a motherboard with better power delivery could help but you really don't have to worry about that if all you want to do is plug and play new games and emulators, GPU/CPU/RAM combo is way way more relevant for your average consumer than a mobo. >>107240623>very few people offering a better listVery few people have the commitment to handhold a newbie through shopping. There are a million PC parts and even among brands they differ a lot in quality and functionality. Good on you if you want to put that much effort into it but calling newbs out about glaring flaws is a good start to making someone a savvy tech shopper. Notice how anons were asking what his use for the PC was, what features he needs from an up-range mobo, etc? That's a part of encouraging the learning process and narrowing down the important bits that doesn't involve doing hours of research for him based on a post that contains no other information besides hehe playing modern gaymes at 1080p. Soft ridicule is a time honored tradition of making forum goers aware enough to actually self start on research about the pros and cons of spending more on specific components.
>>107240786But /g/ told me oled tv's are a meme and crap out in 3-5 years
>>107240792The same time RAM does.
>>107240869That's the point, a mic stand doesn't do better than a wireless headset at anything but input sound quality at any price point, and I know your faggot ass isn't producing anything anyone cares to listen to.
Might be a tiny bit off-topic, but I'm going to buy some headphones and I can choose between 32ohms and 150ohms, and was wondering if most PC's in general can handle 150ohm?It's a pain in the ass to find any information about ti.
>>107240929>headphonesin english doc
>>107240892They will. And they're also horrendously expensive for something more disposable than a Chinese keyboard.
>>107240892EVERY TV craps out in 2-5 yearsIt does not matter what you buy just buy the best and get a rock solid warranty welcome to modern tech
>>107240951*best looking which is OLEDmake sure your warranty has burn in coverage
>>107240951>EVERY TV craps out in 2-5 yearsThe LCD TV in my bedroom I got from my parents when I went to college 7 years ago and they got it 5 years before that and no woman has ever refused to fuck me because Little Women was on in basic HD
>>107241034
>>107241034>basic720mm "P", huh?
>>107240792give one good reason amd should go on sale when they have x86 monopoly atm.>inb4 inteltheir ceo is dead
>>107240892They are a gigantic meme. Get a 100" IPS for less money than a 65" OLED, thank me later.
>>107240929ask in the IEM general they are generally nice enough to answer headphone questions as well.
>>107241105because I asked nicely
>>107241186Will do, thanks
>>107239652>>107239536They were like 80-110 dollars a month and half ago or so, then they were 120.This shit is annoying as hell.
Lads.Give me a 850W PSU recommendation.
Would you get a 1440p or 4K monitor for the 9070XT?
I'm so desperate for Thermalright Royal Pretor Ultra review. I'm not even going to buy it, but I like reading about the performance and cost warfare between them.
>>107241224corsair rm850eothers:https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
>>107241224Seasonic Vertex GX-850
>>107241224ROG-THOR-850P
>>107241203you didnt even say please
>>107240929Check the data sheet for your board's audio codec, but performance is also affected by the surrounding components (capacitors, resistors) chosen by the board manufacturer.Connect the headphones to the PC case's front audio port.
>>107240929no, retard
>>107241224Montech Century II 850W if you're value hunting.be Quiet Pure Power 13M if you want a PSU with nice fans (Cybenetics A++ noise rating).
>>107240929You should be fine, these are usually speccd' to run cheap heaphones from the dollar store or poundland or whatever you have in your area so they will have high impedance capability
>>1072412341440p 100%
>>107241235Royal Predator?Prince Andrew???
>>107241372>Quiet Pure Power 13M ifcrazy how cheap that is. Is it any good?
>Redstone is in cod>Not a game that actually needs denoising >It sucksI can't believe we fell for it again
>>107239956me in the picture with my STUPID FUCKING AMD DRIVERS CRASH AGAIN
>>107241390Lack of fan failure protection kind of sucks, but I would notice the broken fan if they're not running at bootup.
Years ago I heard that partner brands would pick the best GPU chips for their highest tier PCB's. Was that bullshit, or do they actually do that?
>>107241513google "binning"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbR_zHvHAuQpc building asmr :^)
>>107241532Yes I meant the best binned chips for their highest tier pcb's. You can't just give me a yes or no to that question?
>>107241513It's bullshit for everything but special edition OC boards like the MSI lightning x, Asus matrix, galax hof or evga kingpin
>>107241409>mfw redstone
>>107241549btw this is using the Corsair WS3000. But they don't show plugging it in.I'm really unclear how you adapt this for the usa. We have multiple outlet types, it's not really standardized for 220. They're used for kitchen stoves, for whole home electric furnaces, and for (most common use) clothes dryers. For clothes dryers, you can buy a connector (plug and connectors) to screw to your dryer. I'm not seeing how you accomplish this, but maybe they have a selection of cables, or maybe they supply one and expect you to source an adapter.
>>107241604Oh okay thanks anon. So everything else is silicon lottery then. Guessing there's less variability nowadays at least? Seems like nobody boasts about what their personal card is able to do anymore
>>107241549Looks like they used Arctic P- Pro fans.
Is the VRR flicker with minileds VA monitor like the AOC Q27G3XMN that bad or is it exaggerated? I notice it while playing ps5 on my LG C1 but its not that bad but then framerates dont fluctuate that much on the PS5.
>>107241687You have to liquid cool these GPUs to see their potential; not many people in /pcbg/ bother with that.We had one person with a liquid-cooled 5090 Astral reach Hall of Fame (global top 100) ranking in a 3DMark run.
The beginning of the end.
>>107241795that's funny, i almost photoshopped ram into the photo when i posted it but i was too lazy
>>107241795We're going to see ram cost more than gpu's in our lifetime. They already passed CPU's which is just insane when you think about it.
aaaaahhh I've been waitfagging for over 10 years and now I can't decide to either pay 200 euro for 32gb cl30 or 400 euro for 64gb cl30 I'm probably going to use this build until I die so 64gb seems more reasonable despite the jewish price
>>107241735Oh I see. I suppose that power limits are more locked down on these as well
>>107241822Some of these memory kits cost more than an OLED monitor.
>>107241795>>107241822Fuck me I'm still on am4. I dont really play modern games other than NG4 at least. Was gonna wait until next year to upgrade anyways. DDR6 is supposed to be 2027, right?
Why are you building a PC? What are you spending all this money for?
>>107241898if these prices carry on it'll be shelved for much later than that
>>107239064Nta, but what else would you call something like a focusrite Scarlett (if you don't like the term "audio interface" for some autistic reason).
>>107241901Because I'm priced out of the real world
>>107241929audio head/header unit, or a preamp. Ta-da, wasn't hard bro.
>>107241954But that's not what it is
>>107241901The most expensive pc+vr+all the games you could ever play still doesn't cost even 10% of what it costs to keep a gf happy.
part of me feels jewish and gay for exercising returns to take advantage of new deals, the other feels like this is just how the system is. gotta do what i gotta do right anons?I kept everything unopened sealed in the box, they refused to price match :(
>>107241973just return itfuck these companiesopen the boxes too
>>107241973These companies aren't your friend, they would screw you every which way if they could get away with it. Don't let them take a nickle more from you than they have to.
>>107241973>feels jewish because he exercises his rights and does nothing morally wrongthe only problem is the time lost in the return process.
>>107241687Oh there's as much variability as in the past just that what you're getting is completely random For example, 5090 Astral's can range from 1.035v to 1.125v to hit it's rated speed and what you're getting is completely a lottery
>>107242047So factory oc cards really are a waste then assuming they have they same cooler as the non-oc variant?
What does /g/ think of Framework's laptops and desktop?
>>107242129Yeah
>>107242129Technically they at least guarantee a minimum OC but that's it
https://www.amazon.com/CyberPowerPC-Master-GeForce-Windows-GMA2900A2/dp/B0DW4BK2TW?th=1 Thoughts?
>>107242200Or should I go for this? https://www.amazon.com/CyberPowerPC-i7-14700F-GeForce-Windows-GXiVR8040A17/dp/B0DW48GN4
>>107242226Can't see the 2nd one but keep an eye out for walmart's prebuilts. They've had most of the best deals I've seen in previous years.
>>107241973>>107241993>>107242001>>107242035these anons are right. these companies would rape you if they could.
>>107241730Pls respond.
>>107242129Yes, it's mostly for people that really want a stable voltage curve that is gauranteed to never crash if you are doing shit where stability matters, but if you dont then you are better just making your own custom OC/undervolt with your own voltage curve as they stress test them and make sure the bin is good enough for the slightly OC they put on them.
Finally have secured my GPU, RAM, SSD, and CPU. Now I just need a motherboard, power supply, and case. Can anons help me find the best parts to finish up this build? The budget for the rest of the parts is $500 (preferably less).https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sjRqcx
Any thoughts on my current build list? The gpu might be subject to change, I also went out of my way to get ram that's built for AMD motherboards as opposed to intel. Thanks everyonehttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/9TLbqH
>>107241934This. Also all the most amiable people I know from school play games so it's an investment to spend time with people I like because the normies I work with 40 hours a week since I moved away from home have never treated me like a friend.
So I fucked up buying my 2 7900XTX and I need a case that actually has airflow for them, presumably with 1 or 2 riser cables. Anyone have any thoughts so I don't fucking hate myself?
>>107241973Slightly related, but I bought a 5070ti from Amazon a few weeks ago and it doesn't arrive until Thanksgiving. If they have a sale on the same card on BF can I request a price match without returning it? Anyone tried this?
>>107242129Don't some OC Radeon cards have higher hardware power limits?
>>107242314Unless you plan on gaming on linux i would look into the 5060 TI, they going for $399 and they are 10% faster in avg plus you'll get 3 more years of driver support in average, outside of that i think the 5070s are going for as cheap as $470 in the US, both at those prices are better than the 9060 XT which you put as is $30 above it msrp, people suggest the 9060 XT when its at least $80 cheaper than the 5060 TI
What games can I play with a 1060 3 gig?
>>107242344forgot to mention but i was talking about the 5060 TI 16GB, the 8gb is a scam and the 8gb model is worse than the 9060 XT 16gb that you got
>>107242326>my 2 7900XTXperplexed_but_smug_anime_girl.jpg.tiff
>>107242346War ThunderProbably Source 2 gamesYou can also play getting a job and getting a modern PC.
>>107242346Online games and emulators,as someone that owns that card you'll start struggling with anything past 2023 in terms of AAA as 4gb is the minimun, there still some odd game modern game like BF6 in which if you use FSR/XSS really agressively you can somehow get close to 60 fps but the game will not look good
>>107241901Vidya has been my main hobby since I was six years old and I want to be able to play some of the newer ones
>>107242344My only concern is the power draw, I have a 650w PSU, and wattage calculators seem to put me at 700w recommended with those cards, I dunno if it's a big enough difference to buy a new PSU over
>>107242342Yes for instance the 9070xt comes in like 3 variants, 304watt, 320watt, 340watt, or something similar to that. they each will have a locked +10% headroom on the wattage, so a 340w card could potentially clock higher, but they seem to have pushed RDNA4 near its limits already and that extra headroom is not worth paying for IMO
>>107242334Years ago, they wouldn't do the price match. You'd have to send the item back w/ the price you didn't like in addition to buying the better priced item. Probably still the same now but I dont know for sure.
>>107242326Don't double down on your stupidity. Take the L and sell one
>>107242382The 5060 TI actually draw less power than the 9060 XT it should be completely fine because the GPU is rated at ~180W and recommended PSU is 600W for them. 5070 is a bit of a 50/50, Most people recommend a 750W psu, with an undervolt it should be stable though but if you have a shitty bronze PSU it may be unstable
>>107242429Also please anon make sure its the 5060 TI with 16GB, 8GB is a scam and they usually are on that price range so make sure you double check and get the $399 with rebate 16gb verison
>>107242346I had so much fun with M&B Bannerlord 4 months ago with that exact same card.
My old 2080 super is dying and I have decided to do a new build and I have spent like 8 hours going back and forth between saving £200ish on a 9070 xt or just going for the 5070 ti I initially wanted. I have been AMD for years before this, only had the 2080 super the last year as a hand me down, I much preferred the lack of issues and DLSS/DLAA, but here I am again, like always, unable to justify the extra expense even knowing that it will make me happier, looking to go back to AMD once more fully aware of all the inevitable frustration.
>>107242429I'm seeing a lot of conflicting information about the power draw, I appreciate the insight! If I were to swap PSUs, would it be worth it to go straight to the 5070s over the 5060ti? I'm not looking to spend a ton of money but I want something that will last.
>>107242274VRR flicker in VA & OLED monitors will be noticeable; there are sample videos in RTINGS reviews.Some people disable it and deal with the tearing, others set 60/120 FPS cap to rely less on VRR if their system can consistently render those upper limits.
>>107242471Are there any good deals for a 5070? Seems like you dont want to pay that much for a GPU, so if you have a good return window in your country you could get a 5070 and see if the performance is enough before pulling the triger on a more expensive gpu
>>107242471£200 difference is pretty hugeDo you have a return window? Maybe try out the 9070xt for a bit and only change it for a 5070ti if you're not satisfied with it
>>107242507It's not so much the price it's the value proposition, a £560 9070 XT is just obviously better than a £690 (or £725 in the case of the one I had my eye on), I just have such a peasant brain I struggle with the concept of paying more for extra "luxury" I suppose.
>>107242527>*£165I said £200 because I got mixed up earlier with it being $200 when I was currency converting and comparing, sorry
>>107242496For powerdraws always check the AIB's this is the 5060 TI they even ask for 550 W for ithttps://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/prime/prime-rtx5060ti-16g/techspec/5070 They ask for 750 Whttps://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/prime/prime-rtx5070-o12g/techspec/Both will last a long time, 5070 is around 30% faster but the 5060 TI has 16gb of vram and they both will age well just not equally, with a 5060 TI 16gb in 5 years you'll be running games in low graphis but high textures as textures do not affeect performance while on a 5070 you'll be running higher settings but with lower texture/lighting to fit the less vram on it
>>107242556A 5070 Ti is not worth +$130-165 over a 9070 XT. As the other guy mentioned, consider a 5070 and whether its limitations will be alright with you long term. Anything this generation from either team besides the 5050 is better than a 2080S.
>>107242556It's a tough choice, and money is hard to advise on. Generally people recommend the 9070xt at a >15% price difference. Here in the US it's a little different as only the bottom of the barrel 9070s have hit significantly under the decent MSRP 5070tis recently. 200GBP is a lot of scratch for the performance gains and I think you'll be satisfied with the XT if you don't really care about raytracing/AI. 5070ti can be stretched out longer presumably with better support and future performance in games that leverage DLSS and AI for local processes but in 5 years time, depending on if the great depression 2 hits or not you'll probably be able to get a much better card than either, but you'll have to spend again.
>>107242308Any help finishing up this build?
>>107242588Thanks a lot, I think I'll go with the 5060ti, I'll make sure not to get an 8gb by accident. This has been very informative, good luck with your part searching!
Friendly reminder that neural texture compression is a thing. In a few years or sooner whenever games start making use of it, Green 50 series cards will likely have support out the box while Red 90 series might not. A 5070 has a good chance of having long legs. If the proposed 5070 Super manages to release sometime in the future you might be kicking yourself, but the base 5070 will probably still be sellable 2ndhand as the new compression will claw back the VRAM capacity well into the future and it will just be a bit weaker in terms of physical components and spending a bit of its tensor cores on the compression.
>>107242627Actually, could you link where you're seeing the card for 399?
>>107242627good luck anon, after you get it i suggest you to undervolt/overclock the card, Yo'll get anywhere from 9% to 13% extra performance without any increase in temperatures or increasing the power limit, its basically free performance as all blackwell cards are underclocked and will put the card at least on half a tier up in modern games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv_UJxqTPtc a moderate clock boost $3of 350 and 1500 to the memory will land you there and this should even work with the stock voltages so you dont have to do anything else
>>107242635Nuh uh anon, it'll be junk that no one ever uses like ray tracing and dlss (or cope fsr on amd gpus+console) :)
>>107242635in benchmarks that ive seen the 5070ti is using less of its 16gb of VRAM than the 9070xt. No idea why that is, but already if your thinking of stretching the VRAM out, green team wins on that
>>107242650>>107242650it was on newegg, its $419 but it comes with a rebate card which lower its to $399 https://www.newegg.com/msi-rtx-5060-ti-16g-ventus-2x-oc-black-plus-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-16gb-graphics-card-double-fans/p/N82E16814137992
>>107242604>5070The 9070xt and 5070ti performance is what I'm after, I'm content with that price bracket, it's really just the difference between the two. I was on FSR with a 5700xt and before that an r9 290, both cards caused me many headaches with bizarre niche issues and stupid frustrations, but at the same time, neither card died unlike my current nvidia which I had to replace both fans and now the vram is having a stroke. Bah, guess I'll 9070xt it then I suppose.
anons now is the time to buy SSDs, they will soon be unobtanium until production ramps up.
Is it worth it to buy a B850 motherboard over B650 if im on a budget?
>>107242671tyty, is there any noteworthy difference between the manufacturers? I assume msi is okay? I heard gigabyte had quality control issues
>>107242680depends on which one you're buying, i heard the msi b650s were flimsy in comparison to the b850s, and if you're buying an AM5 socket mobo do not buy ASrock as it may make your processor catch on fire
>>107242673I was trying to decide between the 9070xt and the 5070ti myself. Was deadset on AMD till I found a 5070ti for $50 under MSRP. The 9070xt AIB cards I was interested in came out even more than the nvidia card, i couldnt justify it. every nvidia card ive had ive abused the shit out of and never had issues. 1080ti still going strong after all these years
>>1072426739070xt vs 5070ti is pretty much a replay of 5700xt vs 2070SThe latter aged much better because it supported more dx12 API features like mesh shedding and the same is also true for the 5070ti
>>107242692ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS is what i was looking for since it comes with a 9600X combo if i pay now ($300) and pick up later in a local store.
>>107242687MSI is ok, their cards are a little bit noisy but they have a good track record in terms of RMA, that one has also black friday protection so you'll be cover in case it drops further down,
>>107242687Also if you want a 3 fan model the cheapest ones are something like an asus prime, a brand new goes for '$429 in new egg https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-rtx5060ti-16g-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814126791and there is an open on bestbuy for $412 https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-prime-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-16gb-gddr7-pci-express-5-0-graphics-card-black/JJGHGYVFQZ/sku/6628262/openbox?condition=goodBut at that price point you start considering if the 5070 may not be better as they selling them ast $479 + 20 rebate card
>>107242703You're right, this is exactly what it feels like and probably why I am struggling because I have been through this before. Fuck it maybe I should just go with first instinct on the 5070 ti and try to remind myself I'll forget how much all this costs in like two weeks. >>107242700Are you happy with it?
>>107242740The best buy one seems kind of sketchy, I'm afraid of the return policy or something going wrong weeks out in the future, I can't go up to a 5070 with my gpu probably. Wattage calculator sites say I'm fine but everything else says I need 750.
>>107242624MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK, it's on a good sale right now. Montech CENTURY II 1050 W 80+ Gold, good price for a good psu but beware the plugs are very difficult to push in and pull back out. Don't know if a corsair or seasonic is easier to use. That leaves you with enough money to pick any case you want. Antec flux pro, meshify 3 xl, lancool 217 are all good picks. The lancool comes with a bunch of fans, not sure about the other two.
