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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super. Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 Series

>Product Notice

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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Should I get a 1200W Platinum or 1300W Gold?

>>107299088
1200W platinum

>>107299109
You'll have to accept paying 2-3x the standard price for ram. Otherwise aliexpress 7500f + cheap b650/b850 + 9060xt/5060ti/5070 should easily fit under 1250 usd even with ram inflation. If you choose to stay on DDR4 you can get a 14600x and a cheap z690 board.

>>107299051
5080 is equivalent (actually worse) to a 1070 core count wise by looking at the ratio between 5080 to 5090 (49%) and 1070 to 1080Ti (54%).

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Asking again if I should try to RMA. Hotspot delta doesn't really change under real loads and fans are quite loud

>>107299206
The 290X back in the day still work when they routinely reach 94C (temp, not hotspot) at load with jet engine fan speed and sound.
I'd say it's fine.

>>107299206
>power 317W
what'd you expect
radeons are always hot
shat that's not even hot you are only looking at the hotspot

>>107299206
>fans are quite loud
then switch to quiet bios

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Any of you autists bought an OLED monitor (or TV) at BestBuy? If so, do you recommend or have you used their Geek Squad supplemental warranty shit? I have seen positive things floating around given its cost and how its hilariously good burn in protection.

Trying to decide if it is worth it or not-- $169.99 for 4 years

>>107299280
it's already on quiet bios
>>107299275
most cards i've seen look better though, ~20c hotspot delta at lower fan speeds. maybe selection bias but idrk since why I'm asking

I have my eyes on a 5950x, but prices are fluctuating so fucking much. 600 bucks for a 5 year old CPU

>>107299088
Probs not.

>>107299347
5900xt is basically the same chip, just 100 Mhz slower.

>>107299347
It's probably going to get worse as people that are "stuck" on AM4 want to upgrade.

>>107299386
Not much of a difference then? Might as well

I am building a modest AM5 gaming PC and have everything except the GPU.

I have a 27" 1440p 144hz monitor. Can I get away with a 9060 XT or will I regret not getting the 9070 XT?

I want to play Hell Let Loose 2 when it comes out.

> Help choosing the right eGPU setup

I have a Panasonic Let’s Note FV4 with Thunderbolt 4, a 600W Enhance ENP-7660B Flex-ATX PSU, a PowerColor Red Devil RX 580, and I plan to upgrade later to a compact RTX 4060 LP.
I want a small, clean eGPU setup where the PSU and PCIe dock are in the same compact chassis and connect to my laptop through Thunderbolt 4.
I looked at the One Dock V2, but I don’t know if it can fit or power larger GPUs (like my 3080).
What eGPU dock / chassis do you recommend that supports Flex-ATX PSU mounting, works with TB4 and fits all size GPUs?

>>107299330
On an $800 TV, no. On a $1800 TV, yes.

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>>107299396
Anon that is a big difference. If you can afford even the 9070 (nevermind XT), get that.

>>107299396
>will I regret not getting the 9070 XT?
obviously

>>107299407
its 1200 lel

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7XT8Q

Any improvements/suggestions? Trying to get price below 7k but if its a little above is fine

>>107299396
16gb 9060 xt variant is a solid 1440p card.

>>107299441
>$7000
>Air cooler
Disgusting

>>107299419
God dammit...

OK, flip a coin

>>107299484
>OK, flip a coin
IKR, thats my exact fucking feeling on it at that price point LOL

the main reason i am interested is its an ASUS monitor and their CS has less than glowing reviews

>>107299441
You can get a GOOD 360mm AIO for less than that breeze boy thing.

>>107299393
Yep.
> https://www.pcguide.com/cpu/ryzen-9-5900xt-vs-ryzen-9-5950x/
Just make sure not to get a 5900x (non-t) by accident, those were 12-core chips. Naming scheme could have been better.

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>$0.0625 per GB
>the only ssds on pcpp with a better value are 4TB 2.5" chinesium drives that cost $200+ and will break within a year
So is there any disadvantage to keeping data on flash drives as a sort of swap with your main storage? I know you should plug them in once every few months to prevent data loss, but how long do they last in general. The few times I've needed a flash drive the past 10 years I've just bought a cheap $10 one, used it for its purpose, and then never used it again.

>>107299441
HDDs are for NAS and the like. You clearly can afford another SSD, which will serve you much better.

>>107299495
Consider other choices. There are 3rd party warranty companies other than Geek Squad, or you can check with your home/rental insurance and see if you can get riders for your electronics.

>be midrange king
>happily pay for affordable parts and enjoy your all rounded set up for gaming and productivity
>be pcbg cuck
>seething and crying itt while your fingers slam your mechanical keyboard and your chicken tendies get cold

>>107298956
1) Is AIO/water cooling a meme or worth it if I care about low noise volumes?
2) Is be quiet! that good for low noise? Like the PSU, cases, coolers and fans.
3) How many case fans do I need and what case do I get? Maximum cooling/low noise preferred, I am fine with large/ATX cases, no rgb shit please I want a clean/plain design.

>>107299580
I look like this and sound like this.

>>107299540
If you had a PC with a usb 4 slot (only common for laptops / mini-pc's like thunderbolt 3), you could use a nvme to usb 4 enclosure and it will run at around 3000MB/s instead of the 100MB/s of the usb 3 stick (actually, I don't know why that USB only goes to 100MB/s, that's the same speed of SD cards, it should be at least 600MB/s, since usb 3.0 is 5 Gbps (gigabits, 8 bits per byte), 5000/8 = 625MB/s)

>>107299330
the OLED i was looking at had a manufacture 3 year warranty for burn in, are companies good about honoring those?

I got a broken AM5 cpu/motherboard, the memory should be still fine.

should I just sell the memory at 2x the price? Or will it be something that'll only get more expensive, and I should splurge on a new AM5 setup so I can reuse it?

>>107299403
Well you could get a plain naked adapter (they should be cheaper anyways, tb4 isn't even that cheap, at $200 you could build a 12100f + ram + mobo PC with that, way too overpowered for a rx 580), and the adapter should have holes on it so that you can screw it into something so it doesn't tip over.
So, You could just go with a flat block of some heavy wood?
You could use a threaded insert to make holes to screw into.

Would sidegrading from h610 + 12400f + rx6700 to msi pro b760m-a + 12700k + 9060 xt be considered frivolous? Using same ddr4 ram ssds psu

>>107299601
In my experience, be quiet! are very good at what they do, but the answers to most of your questions will depend on your hardware and intended CPU load.
Ryzen 5 7600 under a gaming load may not rly benefit from an AiO, but Ryzen 9 9950x running an all-core load for hours on end is a different matter.

>>107299206
>asus prime
thats a feature of that model

>>107299072
got a deal of a used 14700kf for 235$ should i take it bros

I'm interested in the Jonsbo D41 for a small ATX (mATX size, with ATX board compatibility) and the screen seems really cool. Cool until I realize we probably have to drive it with an HDMI cable coming from our GPU, acting as an extra "screen" from your OS's perspective rather than it being its own isolated device with apps and such.

What's the catch?
Is it a software hacky usability nightmare or does it come with some extra device to control it for basic apps without needing to use your PC's GPU output?

If it's gotta eat a GPU output I guess maybe it would be neat for a little virtualization box with the host running off the front screen using your iGPU, while passing through a dedicated GPU to guest systems for use with real monitors.

Anyone have the D41 and any experiences to share?
Seems cool, but potentially awkward to use or kind of niche. Also only being 1280x800 is kind of cramped, and I don't know what the quality/colors/viewing angles/contrast are like. If it sucks in that regard it's probably not even going to be cool to display art on.

>>107299677
>are companies good about honoring those?
Its hard to know how well they do, you cant seem to find much about it really. I would assume so but I can just imagine paying out of pocket for warranty shipping, etc.
>>107299544
>Consider other choices
I mean maybe, the main convenience of the best buy shit is they can just exchange it for a new one or a gift card, something a non-retailer associated warranty provider can't do

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This might sound dumb but what are extra PCI slots on a motherboard good for nowadays?

I don't see any talk about dual GPU setups anymore. Also, in over 10 yeras I have used these slots once, to install a wifi network adapter. However now most motherboards come with wifi by default, so what they even good for anymore?

>>107299803
Could be degraded, raptor lake had issues before the updates

>>107299866
>Sound cards
Everyone above room temp IQ uses an external USB device now to escape EMI/shielding flaws and noise.
>Graphics cards
Dual-GPU is still valid, just different.
People have been buying Intel's ARC cards for compute/rendering slaves, not for SLI Gaming memes.
>Networking
Yeah, onboard NICs are usually good enough and Wi-Fi usually isn't even wanted on your motherboard but they insist on shoving that into boards and upping the price, so it's rare you might need to use a PCI-E Wi-Fi card.
Having multiple dedicated separate network interfaces is still valid, though it is kind of niche.
>Storage
With M.2 slots and a few SATA ports people usually don't need more, but if they do, now with most boards only having 4 SATA (thanks intel/AMD for cucking us, all top chipsets should have MANDATED 8-ports or 2xSFF 4-in-1 SAS by now) some people need to install PCI-E SATA cards to use more HDDs.
Intel and AMD struck a deal with the enterprise companies to ensure old HBAs will forever have a place on the used market instead of obsoleting them. It's a shame.

>>107299866
I think most people building a gaming PC wont have much use for them. you could add extra nvme storage or a network card as you said. outside of that, it would be a niche usecase sort of thing

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why are people so autistic about always wanting the brand new graphics cards
you were already enjoying your games with your current configuration, i dont understand people who habitually sell their card and get the new one every cycle

>>107299916
How bad is the airflow for the upper card if there's a dual card setup? Simply out of curiosity.

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>>107299441
>tippity top tier budget
>cheap out on the CPU cooler and storage anyway

>>107299866
NICs like 10g or for fiber, storage expansion, CXL memory expansion, I/O like USB, capture cards.

>>107299936
There's hundreds of different GPUs, and motherboards. is it a blower? axial?

Go measure the gap.

>>107299932
>why are people so autistic about always wanting the brand new graphics cards

autistic to even ask this question. why do people lease new cars every other year? why do women buy 500 pairs of shoes? they want it.

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How importatnt are qvl lists? The RAM I want doesn't appear on any qvl, is it a huge gamble to get it?

>>107299999
nice get

qvl doesn't matter since 6000cl30 2x32gb is always one of two types of hynix dies that's very well supported across all motherboards

>>107299999
It's much more important for the faster RAM, 6000mhz isn't crazy so you're probably going to be fine.

>>107299973
people get new car leases because it helps game their credit score and people who collect shoes actually use the ones they already have

>>107299999
>save 240
>429
I hate current timeline

>>107299396
I'm on 1440p and the 9070 non-XT has been doing well for me. Do I wish I had an XT instead? Sure. But it still blows the socks off my old 6700XT.

>>107300164
ram is sold out until the end of 2026 so it can get a lot worse
>inb4 same kit costs $1200 in 6 months

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wish i had got more at the time, this was in June

>>107299936
Oh it can be awful.
High airflow cases, spacing cards out (E-ATX), liquid cooling, or doing lifted side mounts with risers can help mitigate that though.

The old SLI meme setup was never optimal and doing the same with compute is no different. Airflow and cooling must be accounted for, not ignored.

>we will get to experience 64gb of ddr5-600 ram become more expensive than a 5090
what a fascinating timeline to finally drop this gaming hobby and finally becoming a boat owner

>>107300281
wtf doms are a massive ripoff... you coulda gotten 2x32gb 6000cl30 for a couple bucks more

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the final solution to the thermal question is having the cpu and gpu on daughterboards with their own separate enclosures and cooling systems, connected to a central board that has the ram and storage and controllers on it
the “everything attached to a central motherboard” is an outdated concept

>>107299999
>>107300281
Why does memory need rgb?

>>107300350
i just sorted high-low and picked what fit the need at the time
>>107300358
why not?

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>>107298956
>GPU price get inflated because of crypto
>crypto craze stops
>GPU prices drop but just a little
>Ram prices get inflated because of AI
How likely the cycle will repeat and ram price will never normalize because customers paid for the premium price when there was no other choices?

>>107300465
Does anybody have the meme of the 750Ti wearing pantsu saying "what are we gonna do on the motherboard?"

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>>107300503
green line must ALWAYS go up or heckin chine wins
we must sacrifice EVERYTHING to prevent that from happening

The solution
retvrn to DDR4

>>107300557
WE MUST BURN THE DOLLAR TO THE DIRT TO MAKE AI CHATBOT PROfITABLE

Best aio in the meshify3 for a 9950x3d in terms of performance/quiet?

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>I bought RAM the last time a brand new DDR5 32GB kit will ever cost sub-100 euro

Why can't AMD compete with 4090 yet

with the ram prices all fucked up should i just sit on my AM4/DDR4 PC and make marginal upgrades around it or should i buy some DDR5 ram now before it gets worse and have a proper go at things when i get the time and money to buy for building a new rig? i'm still rocking a R5 1600/GTX 1060 3GB setup but its definitely starting to show its age now

>>107300542
Marvellous, thank you Anon

>>107300646
They'll compete with the 6090 next gen

if chips are supply constrained right now wouldnt gpu prices moon again eventually

>>107300715
Yeh

>>107300715
its just a squeeze, memory prices will go back down (eventually)

>>107300665
pfft, your poverty-rig is a joke, and you will not upgrade it until it completely dies, and you will seethe when you have to overpay for ram.

There was a clear and obvious moment in time for guys like you to upgrade to a decent rig, and it was early this year. You failed because of your poverty/jewish procrastination. Cope.

>>107300730
every market report im reading saying there will be no additional supply till at least 2027, who knows how much higher this could go

Built my new PC today. Gotta reinstall windows though, fans are going full speed for no fucking reason.

>>107300715
i think they will go up for the current generation but not that much then what i imagine happening is nvidia and amd committing to remove the low end gpus other than for laptops
No more 5050 5060 etc

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>>107300565
watch an AIO review. Also unless you got a Meshify 3 XL you can't use a 360 AIO on top.

>>107300730
pic rel, you're coping bad here sonny, lmaooo

>you can buy those bundled sleeved thin blue SATA cables for SATA to SATA, it doesn't have to be for SAS-SATA
Wow, I wish I knew this sooner. I've been using the normal cables for years and always fucking hated the way they looked, felt, bent, everything.
This is a game changer.

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>>107300665
i mean a 5600x second hand is 85€ right now in my country (probably can find it cheaper) that and a new gen gpu you can then move to the am5 rig whenever (if at all) you buy it seems smarter imo.
I wouldnt spend money on ddr5 ram right now just to sit on it, if you ever get enough money to fully move to AM5 then you bite the bullet and if ram has gone worse you accept it, because spending whatever in 32gb of ram right now for them to sit in a drawer until you get another thousand bucks for the rest seems silly.
You buy a used cpu for cheap which will be a massive improvement over the 1600 and a 5060TI and you can truck for a while. Then if you can afford an am5 rig you just transfer the card. Whats your ram?

Hi Anons
I have a Define R5. If I wanted to buy an AIO loop for it, what's the best one that's good performance and not gaudy?
I'd prefer quiet if not outright silent. I've got a Ryzen 5600 right now.

>>107300768
Just get a Fuma 2 and open the side of the case.

>PC has increased in price from $3000 -> $5000 since September
what the actual fuck is going on with the market? Thank god I decided to get 64GB and a 5090

best software to control ARGB?
I have a gigabyte mobo.

>>107300782
The Windows 11 native feature Dynamic Lighting works pretty well for me.

>>107300665
You have plenty of an upgrade path above you now on the same platform. A 5700/5800/5700X3D would be a huge upgrade.
There's really no reason you shouldn't snag a 1080 Ti now.

>>107300782
openrgb
signalrgb

>>107300795
>>107300806
are the argb settings saved in bios or is it only on software level?
like do you need to be on desktop with the software open for it to work?

>>107300358
it's a zoomer / gen alpha thing, components must have RGB otherwise it's shit + you need windowed case, so everyone can see how cool you are.

>>107300773
we have officially reached the point where apple isnt overpriced in comparison to PCs
they were smart to go into making their own silicon

>>107300744
I have the phantom spirit right now and it's working well. I can mount a 280mm on the top of the meshify3 but I don't know if it's worth the upgrade and can't find a decent comparison between the two

>>107300772
No

>>107300841
software level. they don't need to be opened after the rgb has been set (which persists until a reboot) assuming you're using static colors and pulsing/changing rgb patterns

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>>107300846
remember going to my richfag friends house as a kid around 16 or so years ago and his dad had custom watercooled, blue rgb pc in a glass case
shit blew my mind, looking back it was pretty anachronistic

>>107300891
and not* pulsing/changing rgb patterns

I missed a deal on a QD-OLED, feels bad. any suggestions for a solid IPS panel?

>>107300915
any 150-250 bucks 1440p 27 inch 180Hz+ IPS

>>107300915
you are like a little baby

Is ram ever going to stabilize or drop in price?
Good lord I got 2x16 for like 50$ and now it's 150$+

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>>107300932

what's the best 360mm AIO that's not retardedly expensive?

>>107300975
have always heard good things about the liquid freezer iii. 360mm black no rgb version is like $89 rn

Are these AiO water coolers really better than air coolers? I have a kinda big top flow cooler, which cools the mobo and component too, CPU temps are also good, what's the deal with these AiO ones?

>>107301002
nah, only for 12 or 16 cores, or intel cpus, 8 cores can use air coolers just fine, even overclocked

>>107300985
for some bizarre reason it's over $200 in Canada
cucked again

>>107301002
they are a bit of a meme IMO. they can be quieter than air, and they should help ambient temps inside the case as the heat is being moved from the CPU out of exhaust fans more directly. GPU, VRM, RAM, chipset, etc temps may be better on an AIO. They usually cool the CPU by around 10c better than an air cooler.
all that said, AIOs are not user serviceable. the pump will die one day, likely with no warning, and you will have to just throw the whole thing away. its wasteful and gay in that way. with an air cooler you get a heads up as the fan bearing shits the bed and starts making noise, and have plenty of time to order a cheap replacement fan.

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Should I upgrade my SSD before prices of those skyrocket too?
I have a 1TB 970 EVO Plus but my board is Gen4.

>>107301024
check for benchmarks online for AIOs, have it pulled up as you browse PCpartpicker and compare price to performance

>>107300896
It absolutely wasn't, custom loops, LEDs and clear panels have been the building blocks of vanity gaming PCs for ages. What changed is that LED and clear panels became extremely common at all price points and AIOs dropped in price to scratch that watercooling itch.
Something anachronistic would have been all-black/all-white PCBs or a fishtank case.

AHHHH
My case is being delivered TOMORROW instead of tuesday
I can finally start (●'◡'●)

>>107301252
grats anon, mine was supposed to arrive yesterday but is now delayed until the 26th :(

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>>107301252
>>107301279
another week at least for my motherboard but all the other parts are here

Do someone uses a 22'' high ppi monitor as their secondary?
Im searching for a secondary monitor to use for reading and all I can see is 24'' 2k

>>107301333
i have 3x 1080p monitors, even when im locked in sitting up right im still 22inches or so away from the screen. ive never seen a pixel on any of these monitors and have good eyesight/dont wear glasses. ppi is a meme, or for people pressing their nose against their monitors

is it true that vapor chamber design for gpus are bad if the gpu is vertically mounted?

>>107299263
Can confirm, ran my R9 290X for a few years before realizing it was thermal throttling at 94c all day everyday kek. Still worked no problem until I upgraded last year

>>107301381
vertically mounting the GPU will usually result in higher temps. not sure if thats the cooler design, or because the intake fan is right next to the side panel usually. id avoid doing it on the 50 series gigabyte cards as they have been reported to leak their thermal compound. and wouldnt do that on a card using liquid metal.

>>107301381
Not all vapor chambers are built equal. Same with vrms or fans or "silicon lottery". There are silent revisions and potential defects.

9800x3d at 467 euros in my shit hole...

Should i?

>>107301349
Maybe you are right, Im just seeing a large difference between my old 27'' 2k vs a 27'' 4k. I have a 10+ year old 22'' 1080 that I use as a secondary and I think I'll still use that one. I've tried putting the 27'' vertical but then I have to loop way up to see everything

>>107298956
Why Monitor speakers so fucking expensive ? Anyone know Edifier ?

>>107301467
all computer parts are just going get more expensive as time goes on so go for it.

>>107301480
the more suckers a hobby has the higher the prices are

>>107301480
edifiers aren't monitors. they're just cheap chinkshit brand making shit speakers which i guess are still better than logitech/creative computer speakers.

>>107301480
I got cheap edifier
they died because a capacitor blew

get some slightly better brand, something like lsr305

>>107301480
i assume you mean studio monitors? they are very reasonably priced nowdays anon.. you can get a pair for like $100 and be set. no reason to buy shitty computer speakers these days

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>Using 55" VA as a trial if 55" is viable for a pc monitor
should I downsize to a 42" C5 or go full anti cope and buy a S95F/G5 55" ?
now that I got some more space to screen 55" seems even more viable, but still so high
going down down to 42" might be worse, 55" panels are better
send help

>>107301549
55 inches as a computer monitor is an insanity

>>107301549
>55" is viable for a pc monitor
anon i use a 24", thinking of getting a 27". I cant imagine using a fuckin 55" TV as a monitor, are you couchmaxxing on the otherside of the room or something ?

>>107301489
Done, tomorrow i'll have the first part of my build.

>>107301562
i hope you are aware of the state of RAM and priced that into your budget. otherwise, grats on the 9800x3d anon. that CPU should last you quite some time

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>>107301561
you can use a tv floor stand and set the desk where you need for optimal viewing angles

>>107301549
How far away from the scrreen are you sitting? OLEDs have debilitating text quality on account of their non-RGB layouts which is exacerbated by poor PPI. So if you are okay with a VA-based TV at that size, doesn't mean an equivalent OLED would look as nice for sharpness.

>>107299396
I'm on the 9070XT. Slapped it into my old machine running a 3700X + 16GB ddr4. I am playing UE5 slop almost maxed out, but lowered slightly to help with the crazy bottleneck. 1440p. Amazing upgrade cannot wait to finish.
Only ragert is I bought a sapphire brand 34 days ago and Microcenter has a different brand 9070XT for $150 cheaper now... Just outside the window and id only save $75 on a return than to open box 15%. Oh well, you win some you lose some (God I won for years on the 2070super)

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>>107301589
because you own a 55" tv that you use as a pc monitor

>>107301587
hunting for a 5700x3d or any other x3d would be a game changer for you

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>>107301604

>>107301567
yeah i know the problem of ram, idk whether to buy now or buy other parts in the meantime.

>>107301659
prices have been increasing steadily, IMO waiting will only bring higher prices

>>107301549
Unless you really can't control your ambient lighting at all, the matte coating on the S95F creates a haze that destroys the lushness and clarity of OLED.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/samsung-s95f-oled-vs-lg-g5-oled/88596/88601#test_6
I'd either go with the G5 or better yet the S90F which remains glossy and doesn't suffer color volume collapse like WOLEDs do and is a more uniform panel.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-g5-oled-vs-samsung-s90f-oled/88601/92237
The C5 is a non-Tandem WOLED which is not competitive with QD-OLED and I wouldn't consider it. If you are are willing to go that route, a 27/32" OLED monitor would at least give you more sharpness with higher PPI.

>>107301639
kek

what are the best options for 5070Tis?

if I don't get at least 10% discount on the 9070 xt on my country I'll just keep using my gtx 1070 until rdna5 comes out in 2 years, sick of waiting for prices to come down

>>107301735
There is no rdna5. It will be udna

>>107301743
>nomenclature
whatever

So, what do you guys do with your old parts.
I've got some stuff that falls into an awkward ballpark of being too old to sell, but too functional to scrap and don't need to build any spare computers for anything.

>>107301761
I made a nas with my old pc

>>107301669
there is to much difference between 32gb ddr5 6000 cl30 vs cl36 ? only find cl36 available in my shithole

>>107301761
home server
pfsense router
tailscale subnets
headless rdp

any advice on temperature soft that isn't hwmonitor? I can't download it for some reason
I need to monitor new nvme a little, put it under motherboard heattsink, runs a bit hot at 45C' idle for my taste according to w11 monitor
sn850x

>>107301868
hwinfo64 or crystaldiskinfo

Why do people waste money on shitty dramless SSD's? I always make sure every SSD I buy has dram.

>>107301894
right hwinfo worked, dunno why I couldn't get hwmonitor

>>107301903
not that relevant for consumer use anymore, fast got too fast

>>107301724
PNY from walmart for $699 was what I picked up

>>107301903
Many dramless are HMB now. So they use your actual dram inside your system.

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>>107301680
>Unless you really can't control your ambient lighting at all, the matte coating on the S95F creates a haze that destroys the lushness and clarity of OLED.
in bright environments yes, I am using 55" glossy(?) rn and I can see my window reflections in the screen for first time (32" never saw it before due to being smol)

>I'd either go with the G5 or better yet the S90F which remains glossy and doesn't suffer color volume collapse like WOLEDs do and is a more uniform panel.
S90 only comes in 65" for qd and get brutally brightnessmogged to death by S95 using a 65" on a desk, 55" is my limit and even if that
G5 is glossy and fine yes but still a WOLED at the end of the day + diagonal scan lines due to dithering

>The C5 is a non-Tandem WOLED which is not competitive with QD-OLED
yes worst of all options but It's a 42" which is the main point

>a 27/32" OLED monitor would at least give you more sharpness with higher PPI.
ppi is a meme and only makes it harder to see detail in 4k res and gets even further brightnessmogged by even a C5 42"

>>107301583
close and I even saw the fringing on 32" 4k qdoled, but idk

>>107301573
yeah I have considered rollable floorstandmaxxing, might pick one up later if I truly commit to this

>>107301561
I used a 60cm desk and it was way too close, now I am using a 74cm desk and it's already more doable, add even more space and it will be easy, and tv eats up 17cm depth
the main thing is height is maybe killing me, that's why I consider either commitmaxxing to 55" for panelquality or getting a C5 42" as a cope
my main screen before this is a 15.6" laptop btw, also tried 32" btw

>>107301554
people use 77" and 83" though
the point of going 55 is just because they are way brighter and Samsung does not make smaller TVs
now you have monitors sure but they are insanely crippled too

im considering a 1440p QD-OLED and would like some input.
for context I use my PC for all sorts of things besides gaming/movies, including static content.I use an auto-hidden task bar, can cycle desktop backgrounds or just be black, ambient lighting in the room is low but not pitch black, could use other monitors for non gaming/media if I absolutely had to but would prefer to be able to do everything on the OLED, ive never used VRR.
Im worried about burn in, flickering (my current TN has no PWM on backlight), visible lines/banding/other artifacts. The entire reason Im considering an OLED is picture quality vs IPS, I dont want it to have any sort of issues. Id also like to not get burn in (obviously). Do you think the OLED would be a good choice over an IPS?

>>107301997
>a 1440p QD-OLED and would like some input.
get a tandem WOLED from gigabyte for $500ish
tandem is superior for now

>>107302016
dont WOLED have banding issues ?

>>107302037
not that I heard of, check reviews from tftcnetral, hwmonitors and ratings for cross reference

>>107301743
udna's internal codename is still rdna5
checkmate

>>107302037
At low brightness maybe but at HDR brightness it's not a issue

Is Noctua NH-U12A enough for 9950X3D?

>>107302095
no, get water or BIG air.

>>107302016
>>107302045
>>107302068
The sales price of this QD-OLED is the main reason im considering it. its like double the price of a decent IPS already, I dont think im willing to spend any more to get a WOLED. just trying to decide between a QD-OLED for $399, or just go for an IPS with the same resolution/refresh for like $200

>>107302120
>its like double the price of a decent IPS already
eh, I'd say decent IPS starts at $800

>>107300736
That assumes this bullshit stays going
Of course they are never going to mention the possibility of the bubble bursting.

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>Seasonic Focus GX 850W V4 ATX 3.1
Seeing pic related on the psu doc after purchasing it got me a bit worried and I can get Corsair RM850X ATX 3.1 for the same price, should I bother with sending the Seasnoic back? It'll be used with a 5070 ti and 9800x3d.

>>107302136
>That assumes this bullshit stays going
it will, chatgpt trash probably going down, but more practical things will keep going, real AI work isn't advertised but needs as much hardware or more

>>107302156
It's autism and bikeshedding
Not actually relevant for general use.

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What are the best white 9070xt that I can get?

>>107302156
what is the rating on the tier list of the two? any notes for the corsair? Im ngl i spent alot of time over thinking PSUs because of the notes in the tier list making me worried about even A rated PSUs...the wording I think can be a bit harsh imo

>>107302172
mercury oc

>>107302160
People are slowly becoming aware that the capex and operational costs are outweighing revenues. Even "traditional" bug tech ventures are burning cash from things that are actually profitable.
When you require some pie in the sky thinking to justify current spending, it's not a good sign.

>>107302182
is worth if I get the magnetic version?

>>107302167
Sure but it's the only PSU that has "stupidly high" in the notes
>>107302176
Seasonic A-
Corsair A+ no special notes

>>107302228
no

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Hey, so, here's the thing anons, I know absolute fuck-all about PC Building. But the thing is, I just found out my craptop, which so far was working well enough, cannot run EU5. I *really* want to play EU5.

How do I get started on learning how the hell to "build" a computer? I need to assemble it myself because i'm a third worlder and they'll just steal the parts and replace it with old ones.

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>>107299973
HBA and NIC

>>107302246
Ooops wrong response
>>107299973
Meant for
>>107299866

>>107302229
Inrush current is literally one of the most irrelevant metrics
It pretty much defines how hard your lights flicker when the PSU comes on.
Your corded vacuum is probably worse.

ITS THE END OF PC AS WE KNOW IT
ITS THE END OF COMPUTE AS WE KNOW IT

they need to start making good horizontal cases again, or cases that can be used horizontally and have an exhaust 200mm on top like mine does, pretty pissed that I can only get a 330mm gpu and most 9070xts are bigger than that

>>107302246
>good goy asus nic

>>107302288
This shit got a huge gap between the chip and the heatspreader pugged in with some shitty thermal pad (probably 3mm) and runs so hot

welp I did it. pulled the trigger on the QD-OLED. 1440p 280hz for $320, i couldnt resist

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>>107302325
You figure for the $30-40 they upcharge for that thing it would atleast have decent cooling.

>>107302229
I think honestly anon both will be fine. seasonic is a super solid OEM that makes PSUs for other companies and is well regarded. both have a good overall rating, you could check cybernetics and other places if you want but I would probably pick which ever is cheaper. If the prices are very close together, get the one you feel most safe with

>>107302448
either way it worked out of the box and it doesn't throttle

bro i wish my pc wasnt so dogshit. i bought like a $2000 gaming laptop yes u heard that right

it has a mobile rtx 4090 gpu, an intel core ultra 9 185h 2500mhz 16 core cpu, and 32gb of some ddr5 ram.

this thing literally cant run shit anymore. i actually got good performance out of it at first, but my theory is that i have essentially nuked the laptop from excessive heat, so now it can only play games that have zero demand at all. heck it even stutters playing minecraft lmao. it's over.

https://www.rtings.com/laptop/reviews/asus/rog-zephyrus-g16-2024-gu605

that's the laptop, but with the 4090 and stuff like i said.

>>107302240
It is honestly not that hard anon, when you actually put it together just take your time and be careful. once the CPU is in the socket, theres not alot you can fuck up.
I would watch some YT videos about "how to build a computer" to get the basics of what the main parts of the computer are, and how they interact. You will quickly get an idea of all the main components and how they interact from that alone. Picking out the parts has gotten alot easier, PCpartpicker is super helpful for putting together a build. You could even ask around to get someone to put together a PCpartpicker build list for you. you can share the pcpartpicker build link to get input/advice from other anons here, or elsewhere. That site should also check to make sure all the parts are compatible with each other as well.

good luck anon and have fun

>>107302445
That's a very good deal.

so guys how much is your ram today vs what you paid when you bought it?

>>107302508
>i actually got good performance out of it at first,
Same thing happened to my Legion 5 with an RTX 4060 and a Ryzen 7 7840HS, good performance at first, but now it struggles and reaches very high temperatures quickly

>>107302508
>$3500 MSRP
>Soldered RAM
Dude lol. Have you tried updating your bios and reinstalling Windows to rule out it's not a software issue?

>>107302524
$99 in January, $327 today

>>107302524
I paid $80 for 32Gb of 5600 CL38 in 2022. How much is it now? $500?

>>107302240
It's effectively lego at a point.
You buy the parts. They go into their designated slots and get connected with their designated cables. And that's kinda it.

Most designs are completely toolless these days, and the most you have to do is unscrew 2-3 metal plates to fit your GPU.

It's super simple.

If you're looking for something to play EU5 you basically just want:
Processor - 9800X3D or 7800X3D
Memory - 32GB or 64GB depending how much you feel like spending.
Motherboard - Something that's AM5 and not too expensive.
Power supply - Again, nothing fancy, as long as it's from a reputable company, it'll work.
Graphics Card - You can go for literally any Midrange GPU. You could even go low-end if you just want to play EU5.
Storage Drive - A cheap 2TB NVME from Samsung, Crucial, Western Digital or whoever will be fine.
Case - Something modern, but you can't really go too far wrong.
CPU - Cooler. Thermaltake stuff is like 30 and just works.


And honestly that's kinda just it. A lot of people here, such as myself, are hyper autists who care about getting a PC that looks a certain way, or every last frame they can get from a video game, or a particularly good deal, or whatever.
But, if you just don't care about that and want to play a video game, it's dead easy.

Go to PcPartpicker, start adding parts and it'll tell you what's compatible with what. And if you're really unsure you can just link the list here and we'll make fun of you until it's right.
Then look up a build guide on youtube, and after like 20 minutes you've got everything you need to know.

>>107302445
>for $320
cheap, well done, put your old monitor side by side and behold the GLOW when you get it,

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>>107302524
barely changed because I bought them during another price hike

>>107302524
95 euro vs last known price 175 euro and currently unavailable
cheapest 2x16gb kits right now locally are about 200-210 euro

>>107302445
Great deal, good job. What model is it? I want to get my brother an OLED.

So the whole time all of this anti-OLED talk was just because of price? As soon as they hit $300-$400 everyone is buying one now?

>>107302615
>So the whole time all of this anti-OLED talk was just because of price?
Yeah, poorfags are the loudest crybaby faggots. OLED is amazing.

>>107302615
petty much, I regret getting it last year, should've waited for tandem.

>KTC M27T6 (miniLED), 4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

Are these monitors actually good? I see it posted in the OP that's why I ask.
I want an OLED but honestly I cannot make sure that I can take care of it all the time and I do not want the pressure of having to make sure things are always alright so I'm opting out of getting one.
So I'm looking for a good price for a 27" (maybe 240hz) monitor that's actually good. But there are so many that are still expensive really for me. Thing is when I tried looking for the KTC monitors I cannot even see where it's being sold and I'm from Asia already.

>>107302523
>>107302584
>>107302600
thanks anons! i had to jewmaxx on something to cope with how much I paid for ram

>What model is it? I want to get my brother an OLED.

MAG 271QP QD-OLED X28
newegg has them for $440 with a $40 off coupon, then you can then get 20% cashback if you accept the paylater offer on paypal. MAKE SURE you go on paypals site, accept the pay later 20% cashback offer and confirm its saved before making any purchases. when you check out from newegg, select the paypal pay later option. interest free but might have a soft credit check

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>$234 a month to pay off your RAM
LMAO I've paid less a month for cars

>>107302655
They seemingly get good reviews. Mine arrives Wednesday.

It's the same panel MSI and AO are using for their well-reviewed monitors, so how bad can it be, I guess.

>>107302508
Repaste it and it should perform like new again
Even better if you use ptm7950 since that material has really good durability and performance

>>107302524
$630 dollaroos back then $1400 dollaroos today

>>107302655
MSI 27" x24 model is the cheapest, but anon >>107302656 snatched x28 for $320
so look at MSI for cheap deals, I have old E2 model from 2024, pretty happy with it, probably spent like 700h posting here on it, no burn in after 3300h in a year.

>>107302524
32gb 6000cl30, bought it for $230 on the 10th, its now $472

wont the RAM price bullshit affect all memory, GPUs, SSDs, etc?

>>107302688
The E2 and x24 both sold for less than $400 recently, but sold out.. I imagine the x28 will too. they all seem like really great monitors for these prices.
>probably spent like 700h posting here on it, no burn in after 3300h in a year
thats very reassuring anon! this will be my first OLED and ive been worried about burn in, whatre you doing to help prevent it ?

>>107302716
yes, HDDs as well as datacenters are zorping those up. I would expect all storage, GPUs, phones, anything that uses memory to increase

>>107302524
November 5th
Corsair 98GB DDR5 6000MHz CL36 : £260
Today:
Corsair 98GB DDR5 6000MHz CL36 : £897

>>107302716
Yes, buy everything you need now.

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>>107302716

everything is fucked friendo

>>107302716
those will be affected months down the line once old ram supply contracts expire so buy now while prices are still low

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>>107302524
I paid like 250 for 2x32 cl30 6000. it's now $900.

insanity.

>>107302723
>whatre you doing to help prevent it ?
not using HDR, dark theme, brightness at 120cd/m2(around 25) because I like it that way
I don't like HDR, OLED makes it not that cool because SDR contrast is through the roof as is. but people swear by OLED HDR, matter of taste.

>>107302753
I'm gonna be stoked once i can trade my spare set of 64gb ram for an rtx5080

>>107302764
and I only got 64gb cause some AI image gen stuff uses a shitload of memory even if you have 16gb vram or more. who knew RAM would skyrocket like this later.

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>>107302524
>G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000
>May 05 2022 $359.99
>Currently only $279.99
No one knows my pain.

>>107302777
lol

>>107302772
832x1216 SDXL-based models + 2x HiresFix upscaling only use about 8.2GB VRAM on my system.

>>107302524
2x32gb 6000 cl30
$440 a few days ago
$580 today
I'll be keeping it unopened for now just in case some Christmas miracle happens and everything returns to normal.

>>107302762
yeah the SDR contrast seems so good to begin with Ill likely just keep HDR off aswell. currently im on a TN panel thats 350 nits and I have the brightness set to 57%, do you think i could get a similar britness on the new OLED without pushing it too far ?

>>107302806
>350 nits and I have the brightness set to 57%, do you think i could get a similar britness on the new OLED without pushing it too far ?
can be whatever, you can get 200 easily, it should be around that because TNs were all over the palce with specs
my guess you run it around 150 for years and just got used to it

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Since black week is starting and all and I'm wanting to do big upgrades.
Starting with monitor itself.
Compared to 10 years ago when I got my 1440p IPS monitor, things.. have changed for PC monitors a lot.

I don't even know what I want other than GOOD monitor at 31-32 inch size class, 4K resolution, superb color quality and minimum 120hz.
Does anything fit in the market?

And the black herring, how do people with OLED monitors behave? Best panel sure but if I were to get one, won't Windows taskbar itself burn-in quite fast into it? Stuff like that ponders me a lot.

>>107301903
The dram only helps on small writes. Doesn't improve reads. So no improvement on load times or saving large files.

>>107302793
I was doing some stuff in comfyui with wan 2.2 (image to video), can use a lot of RAM so I got 64 to be safe. 32 is plenty though

Hye guys, there is to much difference between 32gb ddr5 6000 cl30 vs cl36 ? only find cl36 available in my shithole

>>107302962
>32 is plenty though
I hope so I really wanted to get 64GB but costs way too much now

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>>107302973
https://www.techspot.com/review/2635-ryzen-7950x3d-memory-scaling/

x3d cpus are less sensitive

the ai bubble pop will bless us with dirt cheap used server parts inshallah

>>107302973
Not a lot of difference in performance

>>107303020
>>107303005

ok thanks for the information, tomorrow i will go for 32GB 2x16GB DDR5 6000MHz CL36 for a 9800X3D

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>>107302524
bought it in November 2022 for 95 and now its 145

why doesnt intel try to copy x3D chips? they perform super fast, are very efficient, and the cache is a big part of that. or are they not capable of making a similar design?

>>107303041
different architecture that wouldnt benefit from l3 cache as much

>>107303041
they will in their next gen

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>>107302962
>image to video
Yeah that would do it. I only do text2img and img2img. If I want to animate an image, as a joke, I just use Grok.

>>107303041
Chips take 4 years to design and produce. Novalake launching in late 2026 to early 2027 will have a large L3 cache to compete with x3d

>>107303063
i2v is fine with 32gb system, 16gb vram though, wan 2.2 can run with even less if you use a smaller quant model (q8 works with those specs, maybe less)

>>107303041
Broadwell had some chips with big L4 cache.

>>107303041
This shit ain't easy to work out. Intel plabns to add large BLLC caches to Nova Lake but there's no stacking there.

>>107303087
arent intel supposed to have a 2nm node like tsmc? but the thing is, why use intel foundry when tsmc is way better?

>>107302508
My shittier one runs fine, If it's throttling or stuttering in game it's because your cooling is clogged with dust 1000%
Unless you fucked it up beyond belief
I haven't even opened up mine just cleaned outside and it fixes things up every time
Like 3 years old now or more

>>107302927
OLED saved large format gaming from va panels and to some extent ips

>I don't even know what I want other than GOOD monitor at 31-32 inch size class, 4K resolution, superb color quality and minimum 120hz.
>Does anything fit in the market?
Xg32ucwmg woled
Pg32ucdm(z/r) for qdoled
Pg32ucdp for matte slop (the lg 32 will be cheaper with same panel)

>And the black herring, how do people with OLED monitors behave? Best panel sure but if I were to get one, won't Windows taskbar itself burn-in quite fast into it? Stuff like that ponders me a lot.
Count on 3 years worst case scenario

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>lets see how many dollarydoos RAM is at
Who here #gotinearly?

>>107302927
ive had my taskbar set to auto-hide since like windows XP. back then it made alot of sense to save on screen space. newer OLEDs can detect static content like logos, HUD elements in games,etc and reduce the vibrancy of them to help with burn in.

my plan for my new OLED is to keep my taskbar on autohide, have my wallpaper set to change out every few hours, I dont use desktop icons for anything so ill just yeet all of those, let the monitor do its pixel dance thingy to help image retention, keep brightness kinda low, sparingly use HDR probably will use it for movies n stuff sometimes, if im shitposting for along time ill hit F11 in my browser to turn on the auto hide for that shit up top, use my other 2 monitors for really long static content when needed, have a screen saver/let the monitor turn itself off when not in use. I think with all that ill atleast get past the 3 year warranty for burn in.

you dont need more than 32gb ram, you're being lied to
>but, muh spyware11 uses 20gb!!!
your problem
>I'm stuck on nvidia, I can't use loonix!!!
your problem
buying anything above 32gb in todays conditions means you're a sucker

>>107303041
It's tsmc tech, no? fat ameriburger engineers don't know how to do it

>>107303108
they are far behind, 7800x3D was already way better then AMD figured out how to move the cache to make it even cooler, but either chip is incredibly efficient.

it's crazy how the fastest gaming CPU is using like, 60 watts or so during a game. Intel is 200+.

What was that recent amd card that was competing with the 50 series again?
I need a backup option in case my 4080 super sides on me, just scouting out ahead of time

>>107303119
9070xt, on par with a 5070ti

>>107303087
>2D cache
You just know that shit will cost them 0.5ghz clockspeeds or increase L3 latency greatly

>>107303118
7800x3d and zen4 got a massive boost with the 24H2 Ryzen scheduling fixes

>>107303129
Gotcha, 700 europoors seems a bit steep for a downgrade, but I guess thats what Ill have to live with if this thing gives up the ghost

I'm on a ddr3 era build and was hoping to upgrade but the ram stuff is too much. I'll wait for ddr6

>>107303104
>Corsair
Name checks out

Going from a 9900k to a 9800x3d, if I'm into local AI memes should I just bite the bullet and get 64gb of ddr5? Sitting on a 3080ti right now, might get a 5080 later.

>>107303153
that too, a windows update made it even faster. it's so fast/efficient, amazing part: and CPUs were kinda boring for a while till x3D stuff launched.

Is it normal for AIO pump speeds to fluctuate a little bit? I locked it at 80% but when I monitor it, it's constantly going between 3100 and 3200rpm.
Is everything ok?

>>107303157
it should be good anon, ive been running green team cards overclocked to fuck and back for many many years with no issues ever. as long as it doesnt get physically damaged by not being supported well, it should be fine

>>107303168
I remember the 7800x3d barely beating the 13900k when it just came out
Then the 13900k got slower with mitigations while the 7800x3d only got faster that it now cleanly beats the i9 by 10% on average. It's amd fine wine in action

When are they going to fix HDR on Linux? I'm tired of jeetdows 11

Do you guys care much for silicon lottery?

I imagine these days it's kinda pointless. Chips that bin well end up in higher skews and ones that bin poorly can be downgraded to a lower-tier product entirely with parts disabled.

But, I do still hold out hope I'll buy a GPU and it'll be super overclockable or something.

I've never had above 60 class before it's gonna be so weird when the time comes to upgrade from this 9070 XT

And cost so much

>>107303166
with modern ddr 5 prices you might as well invest the money into a 5090 and have faster time with vram

If you are considering an AMD 9000 series GPU because you have been influenced by Reddit, Twitter or a wealthy tech YouTuber, it’s worth understanding AMD’s track record. While their GPUs are often great at beating cherry-picked benchmarks, they normally fall short in real-world gaming performance. Every year, an army of influencers target first-time buyers declaring AMD a godsend for PC gamers. Every year a small percentage of users get duped. Since almost all PC gamers use Steam, the February 2025 Steam statistics are relevant: AMD’s combined market share for discrete 5000/6000/7000 series GPUs is 3%. Meanwhile, Nvidia’s 4060 alone has 9% market share. This reality starkly contrasts with influencer hype. The reason is simple: influencers rarely play games and gamers rarely buy AMD GPUs. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, black screens, excessive noise and a limited feature set. It’s notable that AMD’s GPUs have not historically had these problems in consoles because, unlike PCs, consoles operate in a closed environment which is less dependent on robust drivers. Using influencers for hardware performance data is less effective than using foxes to babysit chickens.

>>107303234
Thank you UserBenchmark schizo.

>>107303218
>skews
uh oh

>>107299330
Does it cover single dead pixels? I would do it if so

>>107303218
i personally dont
dont like worrying about stuff i have no control over

>>107299601
For a normal user it is not worth it
More fans and lower rpm is the best move, get a case with 10 140mm fans and run them at low rpm with static pressure.
Just buy a huge ass air cooler and a low tdp processor like a 9600x
Buy a psu with silent/fanless mode rated at like 500w overhead to your needs
Watch out for gpu coil whine because if you have no fan noise you will be hearing it

>>107303101
>>107303105
Thank you for your suggestions and input guide, I'll look into those now.

>>107303288
not everyone has the space for, or wants, a table sized pc case

>>107303257
Oh, it's SKUs...

All I got left is case
I need one that'll make me feel like a god

>>107303333
corsair 7000d

>>107303333
B0CKX8WXRG

>>107303322
You know, I could have really embarrassed you there so I hope you are thankful. You thankful, huh? You wanna show me how thankful you? Eh?

>>107303333
fractal design 7 xl

>>107303234
Thank you, just bought the 9070 XT

>>107303438
>he bought mid tier and is bragging about it.

>>107303393
You can hit me up on F-list if you really want, I guess.

>>107303234
9070 XT is kino and the 9060 is just the same but half. it's a monster on linux.

>>107303175
my Lian Li hydroshift does the same.
So I guess it's normal.

Guys I might be cucked
Might pay 1/5th of total cost of tv just for a return because it's not free
Same retailer that scammed me earlier on monitor returns so I had to sell it privately
Countrys largest electronic retailer btw
Returns are literally one of the most important aspects
One negative aspect of taking the tv pill if you can't even get free home returns
Brutal!
Well, maybe 70€ but ridiculous

>>107302777
I bought a flarex 32gb kit for 99 dollars early this year

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I don't really give a shit about the height controller but other than that is 230 yurodollars too much for a 2m long desk?

>>107303537
Just charge back and never shop there again.

>>107303218
have never cared enough to bin my own stuff, but I appreciate when something clocks well. I ended up with 2 of the same GPU this year, one needs to be returned. I considered checking them both to see which is clocking higher/undervolting better but i already marked it as unopened for the return.

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I want a ultra wide OLED and picrelated seems to good to be true. Is there any good option for an ultrawides that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? What are the good brands besides Samsung and LG?

>>107303218
i really appreciate chips that undervolt well so i can turn the fans down, but i'd be fine with any chip as long as it runs well at stock clocks.

For anyone with an interested in Intel LGA 1700, NewEgg has the 14600K on sale for $175. It's been hovering around $210, so that's a decent deal. I got mine in September for $164 on Amazon, but it was back up in a couple days.

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Is this a good motherboard?

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-b850-tomahawk-max-wifi-atx-motherboard-amd-b850-am5/p/N82E16813144697

I have a 5090, want to get a 9800x3d or 9950x3d, also reserved a gen 5 nvme.

>>107303693
well its the one everyone buys

>>107303622
I know nothing about Innocn, but that seems like a hell of a deal. Especially for OLED. I can't imagine anything close from Samsung or LG. Maybe look at Dell? They're generally more productivity-oriented, but pushing out pixels is pushing out pixels. I'm happy with my Dell 40" ultrawide 5k2k.

>>107303693
Probably the most popular MSI board for AM5.

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>>107303702
>>107303716
Are people buying it cause it's a good board?
I got linked to a site with circuit board diagrams yesterday and it seems like it has a lot of slots without too much lane sharing.

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I was gonna get the PA140 but GN said there's crazy sample variance issues with it literally having 2 degree differences between models, insane.

Anyone have the FROZN A720? How does it sound?

>>107299916
>Everyone above room temp IQ uses an external USB device now to escape EMI/shielding flaws and noise.
I needed a sound card just to get my 5.1 speakers working again, but Jesus it's really bad with the constant leakage from the GPU compared to onboard. For headphones I'd definitely try external next time.

we really have to hope for a mess in the markets next week, sam altman going to jail, something that will fix the black fraud prices

>>107303729
It's a good board. Lanes are important, especially for multiple NVMe drives not interfering with the GPU. But other facts to consider are VRM power and cooling, USB ports, ethernet speed, wifi, etc.

If you want extra punch, the X870e boards are the best.

>>107303773
How would you even check for motherboard cooling?

>>107302659
Buy it.
No, seriously, buy it. Do the world a favor. Buy it.
Free returns until Jan 31st, put that to use.

>>107303576
I did not use credit card, but I guess that's an option
but I might break rules
regardless, I forgot to check return policies on all major companies we have here
last time I checked but I forgot to read the fine print and could not return within time
they do a home delivery but refuse to use the same service for returns without paying?
brutal!

>>107303762
The AI bubble is paralleling the dotcom bubble. That crashed hard. But the fundamental structure (the internet) remained and grew. AI isn't going away, but there will be a hard ceiling reached that will attenuate the explosive growth. Sad news, that won't happen in the next 6 months. Even if OpenAI and Palantir dropped 50% tomorrow, you're not going to get cheap DDR5 for at least 6 months. The orders are in and the AI data centers get it all. You get the table scraps.

I am 100% certain of this. Beyond 6 months, we could see swings up or down. I am also certain everything inside a PC will continue this insane price increase trend. Sales here and there, but the lines will keep going up.

>>107303808
>I am also certain everything inside a PC will continue this insane price increase trend.
I feel the same way even if the bubble does burst

>>107303796
Legwork. Look for board reviews from a variety. Gamers Nexus, PCBuilderChannel, Paul'sHardware are some YT channels. TomsHardware site has a lot of info.

Also, you can see, on good boards, which has better VRM cooling, but beware of cheapy boards that try to look like they have better cooling than exists.

>>107302659
That ram was $330, 90 days ago.

>>107303819
There's only one sure-fire way to bring all prices down, and no one wants to talk about it. A severe economic recession. We all saw it in Q1, 2020 with the Coof. But, that was artificial and doesn't really parallel an organic, real-world recession. Those take far longer for recovery. And, in the meantime, while you get to see $100 32gb DDR5, a quarter of the population loses their jobs.

>>107303884
I just still can't believe GPUs cost what they cost now. Half my build went to just the GPU and the entire thing costs less than a 5090. Even with AI the uses of consumer GPUs hasn't fundamentally changed for 30 years.

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I'm just going to tell amazon I didn't receive the ram I ordered

>>107303838
I looked up a long review on techpowerup and their stated downsides was that there was no USB 4 and the gen 5 nvme cooling was relatively worse.

What do people even use USB4 for anyways?

>>107303945
they're might be getting wise to that shit by now. One guy said he yanked the heatspreaders off the ram he ordered glued it to some ddr3 sticks and sent it back and got refunded

>>107303945
>>107303971
RAM shortage got white men resorting to niggerdly techniques

>>107303945
They're more strict about it now. Once they find out they'll suspend the account
You missed the golden era of just being able to nonstop scam amazon out of free shit.

>>107303959
Probably multiple monitors off onboard graphics? Maybe fast fast external storage.

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how do american retailers handle large size returns? TV/appliances?
I got free returns on a 32" monitor before sure but I needed to fucking carry it a fucking mile to nearest return place last time and also when I got it, next time I took home delivery as I would assume since if it's home delivery they would get it home in return too due to paying more but fuck do I know maybe they don't offer that
now I got a TV and gonna get cucked on the returns on that even tho they deliver home they returns are not free
worse is even if the monitor does not come with a fucking carrying handle (32" did not)
literally if you gonna carry this shit the biggest sizes to get ever is a fucking 27"
the return niggas really expect you to fucking walk back a giant monitor to nearest delivery
god DAMN I hate retailers and their delivery shenanigans
makes me not wanna consoom anymore or just buy easily throwable shit
I can't returnmaxx anymore

>>107303945
Giga_Nigger.jpg

>>107304069
>next time I took home delivery as I would assume since if it's home delivery they would get it home in return too due to paying more but fuck do I know
Oh yeah now I remember I was gonna get a return sheet that time to and was forced to bring it to a collection center again even though I got home delivery last time, but I ended up being cucked by return window and had to sell it privately again so not collection at home again

buying displays larger than 32" is a nightmare unless you collection spot is right beside you, atleast if you gonna return

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If i am to repaste my gpu and only repaste (not replacing pads)
I just buy a good regular ass thermal paste right? i mean there is not a different kind one for gpus or is there?

>>107303837
>>107303837
>>107303837