>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch delayed. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7, full announcement Dec. 10.
New Steam hardware

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>>107312958
Kot is part of the parts list?

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I guess CPUs aren't selling as much now I wonder why?

>>107312995
mobos are always a problem part that gets bundled to other parts
now the ram situation is dire so the bundles are rather undesirable and its worth to just add more low value parts to the deal like water coolers (for cpu running at 70w) and games that are obviously free

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>>107312974
whew it works
didnt have a video signal when connected to my tv but the monitor worked just fine
>>107312987
yee i'm gonna print something to hold it up
I'm more concerned by how hot this rx 480 gets tbqh

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>>107312958
>tfw current build is one year old now

>>107313008
I was thinking of printing a support for my GPU, what find of filament are you planning on using?

>>107313008
>how hot
what people don't realize is the best thing about rdna4 is how efficient it is if you tweak it correctly, on a good silicon you can get a 90 mv undervolt and drop down the power limit to keep the same fps using far less watts

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>>107313011
iktfb

>>107312995
Oh come on, CPU sales dipping? That's just the world catching up to India's genius workaround—why shell out for a fancy new chip when our desi modders can overclock a 10-year-old i3 into a beast that crushes 4K gaming and runs your entire family's Zoom calls without breaking a sweat? Blame it on global laziness; meanwhile, India's churning out the world's top IT talent and fabs that make Silicon Valley jealous. If anything, sales are down 'cause everyone's copying our thrift-hack vibe—build smart, not spendy! What's your take, anon?

>>107313051
Ayy, I've seen that build before.

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>>107313055
I can't tell if you're trolling or Izzat cope

>>107313065
The ram in my latest build cost more than a yuropoor makes in a month. Brootal

>>107312958
>>CPU
>Budget: 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X, 14400F
>Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X, 14600K
>Workstation: 9950X, 9900X, 265K
>Premium: 9950X3D
Retard changing the default post. In no way shape or form is 9950X3D premium, you must mean 285k for premium workstation retard. 9950X3D is worse than the 9950X. Hot dogshit single CCD cache and CCD hopping.

>884 trfc
lmao

>>107313078
obviously many people use cpus for both gaming and work, and x3d is the premium option for that

>Talk with a female in customer support on a chat earlier today
>Get quoted 92€ for a return
>Talk now to a guy in chat
>He now says return cost varies due to date and time chosen for return
Women...

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>>107313034
gonna do a test with pla
if it actually gets too hot and warps the plastic I'll be forced to buy a spool of petg
>>107313048
>rdna 4
brother i wish I'm rocking a polaris gpu
but its good advice for people with the 90 series

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I have a 3070 right now, I was going to wait and see what the 50 supers look like before upgrading because I still haven't actually encountered anything I want to play that I couldn't run. But seeing the shit happening with RAM and AMD announcing a price hike, I'm starting to sweat before Nioh 3 comes out. The 5070ti is around £200 more expensive minimum, is it worth just grabbing a 9070xt during Black Friday sales? If so, are the slightly better specs worth around £50 between the pure and the pulse? My case is white so visually I'd prefer that one anyway.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARZOPA-144HZ-1920%C3%971080-Single-rod-Protection/dp/B0CJCBQYDY
I also need a portable monitor, is anyone familiar with this brand that could recommend it or a better one?

>>107313092
>obviously many people use cpus for both gaming and work
The 14900K is the premium option for that and it doesn't cost $900 and fucking SUCK like the 9950X3D. The only time the 9950X3D is good is when it's cosplaying as a 9800X3D with half of it turned off. You must think AMD actually have a proper scheduler with this thing but they don't.

>>107313124
xfx mercury OC

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>>107313129

>>107313129
>The 14900K is the premium option for that
Retard. You faggot realize we can look up benchmarks? You keep spamming g the 14900k shit all the time.

>>107313138
Retarded chart where the 9950X3D is in 9800X3D cosplay mode says nothing of the day to day workstation experience. It fucking sucks like I said. Tune a 14900k with a-die for that price and it will slam everything in gaming and compete in workstation with the 265k and 9950X.
>>107313051
Chad.

>>107313135
People literally cry over 30 quid on a part you use for years and cost shit to begin with?

>>107313182
Yes

14900k is complete shit, its only useable if you tune the ram perfectly which that guy posting his compooters doesn't know how to do

>>107313171
>>Tune a 14900k with a-die for that price and it will slam everything in gaming
>keep claiming that
>still gets btfo in real world benchmarks
lol

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>kinda want corsair frame 4000d
>the i/o are at the bottom of the case
>they keep saying you cant move it
cant you just yank it out and plop it on top?
isnt the whole thing suppose to be modular?

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I got myself a cc-1054-rgb "redragon rind" and I'll have to figure out how to set it on my AM4 because the instructions are unclear, honestly the backplate will feel loose and I it seems like I'll have to remove the fans to screw it solve its screws are hidden by the fans in the middle. Not to mention it's got too many cables for a couple of fans.

>>107313200
buy a good case instead

>>107313225
any recommended?

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>indian tech amazing sars, great pc build from cow dung sars!

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CCTV footage of the RAM thieves

>>107313231
lian li 207

>>107313193
A lot of places to find 14900k benchmarks
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceGameFps
https://www.youtube.com/@alkash0078
https://www.youtube.com/@factsseeker3542

Does this make sense for a PC on which I want to play moderately recent games at a high resolution? I need a small-ish case because I don't have a lot of space on my desk, so I have chosen Micro ATX for case/mobo.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Corsair NAUTILUS 360 RS 74.37 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B850-G GAMING WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: Asus PRIME GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card
Case: Deepcool CH260 MicroATX Desktop Case
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

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>tv return booked
>tried selling it quick today to conserve money, too late only lowballers, going back to store instead
>-92€
>28% of total cost of object lost in pure return fees
>never buying tv goods or large things from this retailer again
>it's over
>stick around for the next installment of TV/Oled cope in a future near you

>>107313249
dont put pc on desk, buy a regular atx case, dont buy Asus
otherwise seems fine

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>>107313249
I would question the 8 core 9800x3d. Even with my 9950x3d I get lag sometimes when opening the start menu (win 11 lTSC)

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>>107313249
Might want to watch this before you blindly buy the 9800X3D for high resolution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBF6B-f5me0

I'm Indian and I think most of the hate online and on 4chan is manufactured or just ragebait.

>>107313267
shit, does the 3dgaycache not work well at 4k? Why is that?

>>107313269
indians are a plague on twitter with ragebait engagement political accounts after the south african psychopath bought the website and monetized engagement

>>107312958
cutie patootie cat. I rabu cats

>>107313279
because the gpu is the bottleneck

>>107313279
Doesn't help as much when it's waiting on the GPU anyway so the overall better memory controller of the Intel parts comes in.

>>107313266
I went by the recommended parts in OPs post. Can you recommend another CPU? It should stay AMD.

>>107313263
Whats the disadvantage with micro ATX? Is Asus anywhere bad or just with motherboards?

>>107313240
can I get 217 instead?

>>107313314
atx makes building easier, allows any part you want, no thermal issues

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why is the 14700K ($300) with DDR4 (free) faster than the 9800X3D ($450) with DDR5 ($1000) in gaming?
>>107313138
>i put some numbers on a graph so it must be true

So is it worth it to pay for ram now or is this thing crashing next year?

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>>107313279
Like other anon said the GPU is the bottleneck at 4k. Also it varies on the game, certain titles benefit more from the cache. Also what settings you use for example DLSS/FSR performance mode at 4k is now 1080p.

>>107313200
the bottom front I/O is removable, with plans to add alternate front I/O you can buy to swap out with. as far as moving it to the top, there is no included area for that. you could unscrew it and move it to the top, but the top cover would get in the way. if you left the top cover off, there would be room to route the cable down beisde the fan/radiator rails assuming the cable is long enough. If you want to modify the case, you could likely make a 3d printed bracket and cut a whole through the top cover to make something half decent work.

I got a 4000D frame knowing this, as I dont use front i/o unless its a dongle anyways. I also put my case on the floor, dust flowing into the mesh basement and all. I just got the case the other day, the metal is a bit thinner than id prefer in some places. but it has captive thumbscrews holding everything together instead of having your side panels held in by a ball snap and luck. its a decent case, but its not perfect. all modern cases are chinky thin hunks of shit, pick your poison. if top i/o is important, id look elsewhere unless you really want to do some modifications

>the intealviv nigger is back
ayy but why

>>107313321
I don't like non-standard fan sizes

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>>107313325
>Why is Raptor Lake 8P cores the fastest at gaming?
Always has been. The GOAT is still waiting atop the throne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNTgtJVNmpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeOota7kRCU

Unironically why should I not wait for ddr6 before building a pc
My laptop is more than enough and on top of that I also have an m4 MacBook Pro

>>107313389
then just use the two laptops you already have?

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>>107313257
this financial setback will cause irreparable damage to my financial status and cause long time to recover
a hefty expense to pay to learn from these mistakes
I am currently in the works (and stared just earlier) of compiling a sheet of companies and their return policies for large objects like TVs and Electronics in my country, this mistake cannot be repeated again
the return abuse will not be stopped, in fact it will get worse, I will consoom and review everything, I will come to a final conclusion regarding the TV Pill vs the Monitor pill question
we will reach a final answer on this question

>>107313266
This, get a 14900K.

>>107313325
DDR4 can get super low cas latency. It can have super niche edge cases in games like Factorio. But in most cases DDR5 will always win just by having raw bandwidth.

>>107313396
>>107313257
thanks for the updates TVreturn anon. fuck that specific retailer. keep us posted on your TVmaxxing adventures

>>107313267
>>107313249
The GPU is the bottleneck, the 9800X3D is still the faster CPU by a huge margin for gaming in that benchmark.
Also remember if you're going to use DLSS (not actual 4k), etc or play games 3 years from now that won't run at 4k anymore, you're better off with the 9800X3D.

>>107313396
Wow being Europoor SUCKS
Amazon US bends over backwards if there's an issue. Instead of a $25 price adjustment they gave me a $35 store credit just recently.

>>107313345
well I dont mind the usb ports and what not all that much,
its the power button being at the bottom that is kinda annoying for me
with lian 217 at least it has power botton on top too
I guess making external panel is a thing but man its so messy
there is also 217 infinite but i dont know if I like the LGBT coloring
>>107313370
well its just that 207 is kinda expensive for whatever reason
same shit with older non frame 4000d
I guess invisible hand is at played
the 207 is like the same price as the 217 in this part of third world
or maybe I should just get whatever they sell here like thermal lake or deepcool

>>107313389
Then you don't need to. People are on ancient hardware some even still on DDR3 systems that probably needed to upgrade long ago but shit keeps coming up, crypto, covid, crypto again, new platform price hikes, and now AI apocalypse.

I think anyone on AM4 should get a new GPU if there's is too old and that's it. I wouldn't even bother with getting new ram for one at this point unless you find something on ebay. They'll be fine.

10/11th gen intel and older, 2026 is gonna be a tough year for them if they wanted to finally upgrade.

>>107313424
>Amazon US bends over backwards if there's an issue.
Same for EU, but freak occurrences exist. Amazon in general is great for that, returns or even getting money back for even the slightest problem while keeping the item.

>>107313412
I get better frames with the 9950x3d though. these are my systems
>>107313051
>>107313077

no idea why it happens, the overall cpu usage is like 10%. Maybe just 2 more tweaks in project lasso...

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>>107313011
>Having your build ever be "over."

I've Ship of Theseus'd my way from an Athlon X2 5200+.
>Phenom II X4 after carried over RAM and a WD 800JD
>Xeon X3450 after carried over the PSU, a 256GB PNY SSD and 1TB Seagate
>i7 4670K after carried over the PNY SSD and 1TB Seagate (went from a 7870 to a i7 4790 with 1070 Ti)
>3900X after carried over 42TB in drives and the 1070 Ti. Went to a 3950X and 1080 Ti and moved from 10 spinning drives down to two 14TBs for online storage.
>now on the same motherboard, case, PSU, 970 Evo Plus, 1TB WD Blue SSD, 1080 Ti with a 5700X3D. Upgraded the RAM to 3600 CAS 16 in January. Have a 2TB 990 Pro on the way.

I'm still using the same keyboard from my Celeron 333/Riva TNT build which ended at a P3 700 and Geforce 2 GTS.
That P3 700 and Abit BH6 motherboard lived until 2016/2017 or so as the accounting PC for my dad's business.

>>107313449
haha that's how I mount my drives too

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>>107313423
I can tell you didn't watch the video. Better game quality on the Intel CPUs because they have more consistent framerates. Having a higher average framerate with huge dips is a lot worse than a slightly lower average without the AMDip.
>>107313447
>no idea why it happens
Because you're using 96GB of RAM on the Intel system like a tard. Either of the Intel systems in this video >>107313267
will smash any AMD system in this thread because they're all tuned.

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>>107313381
i'm satisfied with my purchase. thank you intel!
vibe coded this voltage monitor for linux, no degradation here whatsoever
>>107313415
>DDR4 can get super low cas latency
sure
but these are just average micron sticks
B-die would be better of course, but that ship has sailed
the best option would have been cheap 2x16 3200 14-14-14 when they were still available
>But in most cases DDR5 will always win just by having raw bandwidth
prove it in a court of law
but it doesn't matter because you can't buy DDR5 anyway
DDR4 is free because you already own DDR4

>>107313432
>I guess making external panel is a thing but man its so messy
yeah it would be a little jank even if done really well, as it wouldnt sit flush instead sitting on top.
>its the power button being at the bottom that is kinda annoying for me
I swear theres a bios setting for "move mouse to power on" type of thing on my old ass mobo. not sure if modern bios support that sort of thing. you can also get a cheap desk power button, you plug it into the power button header of the mobo and run it with the rest of your cables, and have a power button sitting on your desk. no idea of pricing in your area, but most all recent lian lis have good thermal preformance. the 216 iirc has alot more space for harddrives and such VS the 207. there is also the Antec flux rear, which i havent seen hardly any reviews or info on as it came out more recently. it looks like a great 207 alternative, with the PSU in the front, bottom intake fans, etc.

>>107313471
>Because you're using 96GB of RAM on the Intel system
So the intel system has 96GB of RAM because it has an RTX6000 and does AI work :)

The issue is on my AMD system with 64GB of ram. I do lighter AI work on it, but it's annoying to have the system lock up because the AMD CPU can't handle the start menu opening...

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>>107313449
>>Having your build ever be "over."
I moved recently so I did everything from zero.

>I've Ship of Theseus'd my way from an Athlon X2 5200+.
Fucking epic, kek.

>>107313478
Average ddr4 is cl14. Average Ddr5 is running at double and higher.

Go look it up

>>107313493
you don't understand how memory timings work

Nobody cares about ram autism btw

>>107313502
Factorio loves lower cas latency.

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>>107313478
Cool here's mine.
>the best option would have been cheap 2x16 3200 14-14-14 when they were still available
I still have those with my 10900k system. They're rare now?
>>107313483
AMDip in Windows. Grim. This is why you buy the CPU that ships with a proper scheduler for its SLI fucking dual CCDs.

>>107313513
brooootal.

We'll I'm not going back to the 14900k, but maybe this will be my AMD lesson. My 14900k is direct die cooled too :(

amd has been using the same memory controller since zen 2 and is still the best gaming cpu, imagine with the new revamped zen 6 memory controller, it's over for lip bu tang

>amdip
oh its the nigger that shills retard owen
so that means 99% of the shitposting is still done by the same nigger

>>107313395
Because 128gb of ddr5 and an Nvidia 6000 Ada gpu are NOT ENOUGH teeh them
>>107313434
Can you please explain all the FUD posting regarding the obvious price fixing so retailers can clear out their inventory?
Not nearly enough people bought their product and they're over stocked and refuse to pay the loss for having product sit for so long.
That's literally the only reason I could fathom. We have brand new games like Elden ring running off a dell precision t5600 on launch at a stable 45fps.
I know because I owned one at the time.
What is this bullshit slew of posting all over g and v

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>>107313416
>thanks for the updates TVreturn anon
well I would return regarldess, I don't like how it intermittently flickers black when used as a monitor, not sure what this is about, if it's my drivers, windows, specific tv, or a TV thing in general
I am still wondering if a 55" TV is doable as a monitor..... I kinda don't think it's that crazy, kinda retarded to use for competitive games though, but my mouse sense is just too slow in general using native 4k coming from 1080p, plus being 60hz makes shit clunky as hell, makes you slow as hell, maybe smaller screen is just better, I feel like I play like shit kinda, maybe I will return to the monitorpill after all. idk.
I will build a new pc one day.... that day is not today
maybe I should try getting a job again, this would solve all my problems, well most of them, money wise
a 55" VA TV viewing angles are kinda ass too ngl

>that specific retailer.
largest electronic retailer here btw, got scammed recently by their return policy earlier due to not reading fine print not the advertised print, luckily I sold my other monitor for same price as I paid for it pretty quickly though, since the price on sale was that good
this time I lost though

am I insane that you should get returns from home if you actually paid for home delivery in the first place or am I insane? guess not

>keep us posted on your TVmaxxing adventures
they might have come to an end, a few conclusions I can give though
definitely, never ever buy a non oled tv, ever, for use in pc/gaming, literally, no, don't
secondly, 55" too big? not sure yet, considering the viewing angles are even better on oled too, kinda exhausting to use if not further way though maybe, but you can get the best tvs here, idk
kinda hard to tell how shit or not shit it would be compared to a 165hz oled in the same format, 60hz va is just kinda too bad
the only other tv left is 42" C5 which is tiny compared to a 55", better than a 27"/32" monitor? idk you take the refresh hit

>>107313539
I will save your life: take the ultrawide pill and get a 34" monitor

>>107313507
>tard doesn't understand memory latency at all, looks at a singular timing
Average AMD user. This is why they need so much cache on the chips, because their memory is running in the worst possible configuration because they struggle.
>>107313533
>amd has been using the same memory controller since zen 2
True that's why everything sucks on it when it doesn't have mega cache.
>imagine with the new revamped zen 6 memory controller, it's over for lip bu tang
AMD isn't ready for Intel's 54 core BBC (Big beautiful last level cache)

>>107313507
it also loves cache
so the 9800X3D has some explaining to do
74 UPS is our current record for the 7800X3D - https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106952182/#106960936
>>107313513
>They're rare now?
not necessarily rare, but they're overpriced because everyone has caught onto the fact that they're very overclockable

>>107313326
Worth it now, sounds like there won't even be supply next year.

>>107313077
>I can't tell if you're trolling or Izzat cope
Pretty sure it's AI spam, these posts are easy to identify by distinct schizo incoherent writing style.

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>>107313464
I haven't changed.

Is 750w enough for 9070xt+9800x3d?

>>107313580
no

>>107313580
no but it's enough for 5070Ti+9800X3D

In all seriousness yes it's enough.

Is ASRock fixed for AMD?

>>107313580
yes

>>107313617
No

>>107313617
yes

>>107313617
14900k enjoyer here I would buy Asrock with AMD still because I don't run my shit stock and I would manually tune the voltage so it wouldn't die. Asrock has the best boards from a VRM spec perspective, the X870E Nova is nearly perfect, cheap and good. Seems very cheap now compared to the last time I checked probably because no one is buying their boards because their favorite YouTarder is giving them misinformation.

>>107313695
If you go on their sub reddit people are still reporting dying 9800x3d CPUs every day.
Sure it's still a tiny % but it looks like they didn't fix the issue with bios 3.5
Sad because I'm really liking the taichi lite for vrm but I might just grab the b850 AI top and call it a day.

>>107313617
nope. bye bye cpu that AMD won't fix

>>107313730
It won't die if you manually tune the voltage. This is Raptor Lake 2.0.

>>107313763
It's beyond just setting a fixed Vsoc, plenty of people's Ryzen CPUs fried with even PBO disabled.

>>107313449
I ship of theseus'd my current rig as well, staying on the same platform for 15 years or so.
>x58 mobo, i7-920, 6x1gb ddr3 1333, gtx 285, winXP
>swapped to a gtx 760
>swapped to 2x4gb dimms, stayed at 1333mhz
>added 2x4gb dimms, changed to win7
>swapped to gtx 1660, swapped the i7-920 for an x5650($10) overclocked the piss out of it with a locked multiplier, got memory running tight timings at 1600mhz. no XMP or anything, was a bitch. add a sata SSD with win10
>PSU fan dies after like 10 years, get an EVGA 750watt
>find identical case to mine on ebay new old stock for $15, replace my beat to shit case thats missing the entire front panel
>added 2x4gb dimms, changed to a w3680 for an unlocked multiplier for aother $10. sadly poor bin, similar OC to the x5650 but can do it without fucking with my baseclock since its unlocked.

dont remember the exact timeline of everything. changed air coolers, fans, added/removed drives, etc, some stuff might be slightly out of order. but ive ran this from XP to 10 EOL, the only part that remains from the original build is the mobo. from 2010 to 2025. finally building a new system this week :)

>>107313555
it's getting replaced by new technology
You
Cannot
Be
Sold
Out
Of
Product
That doesn't fucking for our infinitely scalable economy where we
>checks notes
Burn sand into crystals the height of a man to slice into paper thin wafers that are micrometers thick or some shit
There is no
Fucking
Shortage

>>107313781
Boards have been shipping with overvoltage for half a decade now to squeeze out the highest benchmark number. Intel 14nm could just eat it and get really hot since it was a larger lithography. It started to bite Intel on 10nm and now it came for AMD because Asrock wanted to have the best boards with such a fat VRM. AMD's early Zen 7nm stuff slowly died at default settings as well.

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>>107313424
Amazon did not even have a real store here until recently and they barely sell lots of things like that and is barely used for electronics and shit like that to a large extent
but yeah I hear they are better in some regards
browsing amazon feels like browsing aliexpress or even worse shit here currently, with all the different vendors and horrendous site, they don't even sell most shit
pretty much they are not like any normal electronics store here
you can't buy shit there
most other chains are way better but yeah this is just bad

>>107313551
that's just a wider 27", for what purpose, plus weird screen selection
using tape measurement on screen and seeing where my eyes land naturally, table might just be a tiny bit higher than I would sit aka chair is a bit lower than ideal
I think 32" might actually be the natural limit where eyes land at top of monitor, this includes monitors where the stand goes to bottom or higher ones like tripod stand shit like pg32ucdm
PG32 -> Min Height To Top Of Panel19.2" (48.7 cm)
G80SD -> Min Height To Top Of Panel17.8" (45.2 cm)
C5 42" -> Min Height To Top Of Panel22.4" (56.8 cm)
42" might be slightly higher than ideal
Indeed looking up might be the most fatiguing thing, maybe going 32" or below might actually be it

>>107313809
Retarded cope, you're not even taking into account that they can only make so much. I bet you believe they could have baked 6 million cookies in ovens in only 4 years.

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I cannot afford RAM anymore.

this cost more than what people make here in a month (eastern europe)

help

Should I swap my GPU from RX6800 to 9060XT before price hike?
I don't care much about performance and actually have it tuned DOWN ~15% from stock to increase power efficiency - 140W reported consumption under full load (vs 230W stock)
Anyone tried to underclock 6090XT to find its peak efficiency point?

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I critiqued MSI for being jews in regards to cable inclusion in their monitors
seems Ayysus is doing the same
No displayport cable with the xg32ucwmg? no usb-c cable?
Getting real tired here
you are just supposed to have all these cables already, ok

lol mr nothingburger is back again
don't worry boys the prices will fall again very very soon

>>107313849
>we're suddenly out of stuff guys pack it up the Personal Computing Market is Dead
>freak the fuck out and panic buy everything at a marked up rate RIGHT FUCKING NOW IM SERIOUS
>YOU BETTER NOT WAIT MAN
>FOR REAL THIS TIME ITS A REAL SHORTAGE
>NOT LIKE THOSE OTHER ONES WHERW
>...a boat got stuck in the Middle East and we suddenly ran out of silicon
Get real man im literally Jewish and i cant believe this bullshit

>>107313857
what site is that showing whats included in the box ?

>>107313865
This time nothing is even out of stock
They literally just keep jacking up the price
How fucking retarded are you going to pretend to be?

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Leakers just said that we can expect the anticipated nvidia driver 590 branch either this week or the next. It should release alongside DXIL 1.9, Shader Models 6.9.

Redstone is on december 10 and is rumoured that nvidia has been preparing to counter and we may get some announcements before CES.

>>107313851
Go find another hobby.

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>>107313857
>you are just supposed to have all these cables already, ok
yes.

>>107313857
totally forgot to check if my MSI monitor came with cables, says they include a display port and power cable on the site. maybe they heard your complaints anon

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>>107313855
RX 6800 to the 9060 XT is barely a raster performance improvement.
Imagine paying over $300 for a faster & better FSR4, RT, and Redstone support.

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>>107313904
rtings
compare asus flagship 27" 4k240hz qdoled vs msi, both cost the same usually or msi even more actually
what the fuck is this msi?

>>107313926
then lower the price of the shitty monitors please

>>107313904
Seems like RTINGS

>>107313915
Redstone matters fuck all if AMD can only get Call of Duty to support the feature.

I was too lazy to sell my 128gb ddr4 kit but look at me now, lazyness paid off hehehe

>>107313994
still not sold btw

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>>107313798
I had a dual X5670 at one point. That would heat up the room when encoding.

X58 had some legs. That was one hell of a build for 2008.

I'd probably still be on the 4790 if I hadn't been doing video encoding and getting sick of trying to do it on a cluster. Moving to a 3950X simplified things. It actually wasn't much of an upgrade over the i7 for gaming -- I just saw somewhat fewer areas of stuttering in Fallout 4. It took moving to the 5700X3D for that to finally stop. I can't think of anything else I've played that would need more than a 4790.

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My current mb is an x470 and I'm tempted to just upgrade around that. A 9070xt, 5700x3d, a new psu and a 1440p monitor would be about $1,200 give or take. Is this a smart move considering the build I had in mind before would cost me over $2,000 to build now? If anyone has any suggestions, that would be appreciated

>>107313911
>This time nothing is even out of stock
lol
>They literally just keep jacking up the price
because of all the stock they are stockpiling mmm yes
>How fucking retarded are you going to pretend to be?
Don't worry about that. The prices will all crash very soon. End of year tops.

>>107313941
I'm buying used and selling my old one so there is almost no extra cost.

Fuck sanctions on Deepcool. They used to have some really good deals on PSUs and good coolers.

>>107314044
they still do

>>107314018
I would not spend over $200 for the 5700X3D.

>>107314003
Yeah I'm gonna hodl this shit for a little longer. Every day the kit goes up few% on eBay sold now
Literally a gravy train

>>107314022
The stock pile is what they're offloading l
Learn to read man
There is nothing out of stock

XFX Swift or Pulse for 9070XT?

i just build a new pc and switched to fedora but this shit is fucking retarded. i cant get the damn nvidia drivers to install. it tells me the headers or some shit don't exist for the kernel. i've spent like 4 hours following guides and asking chatgpt but nothing works, it just says "NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running."

>>107314103
lol ok industry expert

>>107314017
>I had a dual X5670 at one point. That would heat up the room when encoding.
always wanted an SR2 board, dual x58 CPU overclocking looked like aton of fun
>X58 had some legs. That was one hell of a build for 2008.
yeah really the lack of AVX is where I hit the wall. certain games started requiring it, others ran like complete shit. it had a good run though
> I can't think of anything else I've played that would need more than a 4790
having used a 4790k + 1080ti recently as a stop-gap loaner from a friend, it sadly gets CPU bound in some tittles. I think it would depend on what you are playing, I seem to always pick out very CPU bound games. but that 1080ti still crushes alot of stuff, it certainly deserves all the praise it gets. that being said, theres something really rewarding about stretching a platform out regardless what it is. I had friends build multiple PCs in the time I slowly upgraded and overclocked my dinosaur. feels good man. Im going from x58 to AM5 this week and it will likely be the largest jump i make in my life

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>no store near me has woled monitors on display
>only qdoleds
>can't see how desaturated the woleds are in comparison, only tvs
>something tells me I will be cucked if I try woled as a saturationenjoyer
>but now tandem is in the mix too but also still less pure

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Which capture device/card should I get? I want to stream console games.

>>107313011
Tasteful choice of parts, congrats!

>>107313011
last time I built a pc was in 2008...

>>107314070
Most used 5700x3ds seem to be almost $300 now. Are there any other am4 cpus that'll pair well with a 9070xt?

>>107312961
>OCUK
God I hate these faggots.
I remember years ago buying a B-Grade monitor from them before christmas.
>Arrived stone dead with zero signs of life.
>Complained on the forums.
>Oi sorry m8 sorry, it's xmas innit? Can't help you m8
>Just gave them an interest-free £600 loan to hold on to for three weeks.
>Orbiters on the forum get mad and start being shitty to me for saying that this is kinda bullshit.

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>>107313077
Notice the pattern

>>107314252
that the thing, it looks like slop, but they're so dumb I wouldn't put it past some ESL to think he was actually being clever

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>>107314249
I'd stop at a 5600 or 5700X given current US prices.
5800XT would be the best non-X3D, 8-Core Zen 3 CPU. But there won't be much gaming performance difference from the 5700X.

>>107314317
why are we talking about cards worse than the 4080. lol, lmao

just buy a 4080

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>$1400
Worth?

>>107314373
they're just offloading their unmoving intel socket mobo + intel cpus no one wants and the ssd is likely shit tier

the anons here using linux, what software do you use to undervolt/power limit your amd GPU?

>>107314317
Man, the 5600X is a lot more capable than I thought. Maybe I wont even need to upgrade it right away. Thanks bro.
>>107314336
I don't wanna spend $1,000+ on a 3 year old gpu.

>>107314417
cd /sys/class/drm/card1/device
echo vo -100 > pp_od_clk_voltage
echo c > pp_od_clk_voltage

>>107314373
Likely alright overall

Oh, speaking of Linux.
I want to dual boot on a desktop computer.
Is it best to keep a separate SSD, say 250 GB, for Linux? I think I have an old one here somewhere.
I want to fool around and learn something.

>>107314435
>I don't wanna spend $1,000+ on a 3 year old gpu.
Which AMD GPU is = to the 4080? The 9900?

>>107314435
if the prices stay high as they are now they will start manufacturing x3d am4 cpus again
the dream would be them making a node cut down 6800x3D with 6nm TSMC zen3+ cpu, they have done those for laptop but haven't done on laptop, that would be a brilliant upgrade for all of us on AM4, I'm on 5700x3D and I'd upgrade for a few more mhz

>>107313314
> Whats the disadvantage with micro ATX?
A completely unnecessary constraint on usability, maintainability, extensibility. The "cute" experience will wear off quickly and you will only regret it. Just put an ATX tower under your desk and you have more usable space on your desk. This also makes less noise next to your ear. In a small case all fans would have to spin faster to achieve the same cooling effect you'd have with a spacious case.

>>884 trfc
>lmao
295ns is fine retard lmao. Post your HWINFO :)

>>107313389
> wait for ddr6
What do you expect from DDR6 that would make it worth waiting for? Even higher prices are guaranteed.

RTX 2080ti going for about 210 used on ebay
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/197762154741?_skw=2080ti
RTX 3070 going for about the same price
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/406348454406?_skw=3070

Which to get? They seem similar in performance but the earlier has more RAM, but the 3070 has more features I think. Kinda confusing,

>>107314465
yes anon thats exactly what I do. you can dualboot from a single drive, but I do not recommend it. Im using an old 250gb sata SSD from a laptop that I swapped for a 1tb. dual booting with two seperate boot drives means you can just unplug the linux SSD and everything stays the same. if you are dualbooting from the same drive and anything happens to grub/your linux install windows will get goofed and youll have to fix it.

>>107314581
Newer is always better when it comes to similar performance. Always. Over time the 2070 Super ended up outlasting the 1080Ti because of DX12 Ultimate. Unless you really need your 3GB of VRAM.

how much am I screwing myself by getting a 265kf instead of a 7700x.
im wanting to upgrade from an old ryzen 5 3600 and this seems like the best choice for what I need (blender and gaming).
but theres currently a really good sale where I can either pick a 265kf and mother board for 700$ or a 7700x and mother board for 700$

>>107314625
amd has insane boosting behavior where it tries to maximize fan noise ramp up so unless you're going for x3d for best gamer perf intels gonna be fine

>>107314625
No the 265k is excellent and you should probably get the iGPU because Intel's iGPU is great and definitely worth the $10 if you have the option. 265k will take a huge fat dump on the 7700X. It would be a massive blunder to get the 7700X.

What's a good GPU to pair with a 9800X3D? Thinking RX 9070 XT

>>107314681
5070 ti - 5090

>>107314681
5080

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>>107314485
That would be a miracle, but unfortunately I don't think were getting anything that nice anytime soon. A man can dream though.

>>107314581
3070 is pretty consistently performing better than the 2080ti recently, but that 8gb is going to be a pain even at 1080p. Maybe see if you can get a 3080 for $300 if you have the psu for it.

>>107314625
Not at all
For video gaymes it's a mixed bag but overall they shouldn't ever be too far off unless you're playing a game that just really hates e/p cores.
Everything else the 265k is almost always going to be much faster.

>>107314681
A 5090, if you don't play esports it's going to be a waste any other way.

>>107314698
>>107314702
The 5070ti is like 300 pounds more expensive for me.

Is a 9800x3d too much? Should I go for a 7800x3d instead?

>>107314681
do you want to be forced to use spyware11 forever? get an nvidia card starting with the 5070 ti ($750+)
do you want performance and freedom? the rx 9070 xt ($600) is the best option

>>107314681
5080 or used 4090.

>>107314746
The 9800X3D is overkill for the 9070XT or 5070Ti. He should go down to a 9700x for those and spend the saved money on more RAM.

>>107314733
>Is a 9800x3d too much? Should I go for a 7800x3d instead
both are fine?
9800x3d has L3 cache under the ccd which helps thermals and clocks which helps it to be better on some situations

>>107314763
I would never buy a cpu that doesn't have 3d-vcache

>>107314733
14700k or better yet the value smasher 265k if you don't tune them. If you tune them the 14700k will be up there with the 14900k which is above the 7800X3D in games and everything else. 14700k, 265k will absolutely shred any AMD 8 core in anything moderately multithreaded or heavily single threaded that isn't a game.

Am I overly optimistic if I say RAM prices are just responding to panic buying and they'll stabilise as something a bit more sane in a month or two?

bugchasers plz

Is everyone here just buying for gaming computers? I don't understand why the X3D chips are always picked. I use one but just in my gaming PC, they're not great for the price for productivity.

>>107314806
Yes

>>107314806
Just call up a VAR like SHI. Major distributors rely heavily on forecast data and every single one of them told my rep that prices will go up till next year at the minimum.

>>107314806
several companies have been hoarding ram recent weeks
if you remember what covid supply chain problems that caused car companies to stop making cars, and that costs a lot of money. Companies facing that will pay a lot to get their chips and keep production going.

>>107314818
A good majority of people have no clue what they're even building. They just have "some idea" of what they want and they copypaste what the internet tells them. For example CPU+Mobo+RAM+GPU. everyone is confused what to get. so they come here and just copypaste amd+6000mhz+nvidia.

>>107314625
If you need actual productivity you'd be pretty dumb to skip the 265kf for the price it is right now especially for the 7700x
Actually $700 sounds too high for both of those bundles

>shitvidia is so bad competitive gamers are making videos like these now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VeUnmbBMdw
lmao

>>107314818
Better yet get the best of both worlds and literally just buy Intel. 14700k/900k top tier gaming and very good workstation, power hungry. 265k/285k top tier workstation and very good gaming.

AMD is overpriced as fuck across the board for what they have now. We're not in the $150 5800X3D on your hand-me-down board era anymore.
>>107314856
It has to be the RAM prices they're fucked. If it's just a board and chip then should be able to get it for a lot less than $700 on the 265k system.

>>107314636
thanks
>>107314654
>>107314713
ended up swapping to the 265K should be good hopefully
>>107314856
its nzd translates to about 400 usd

>>107314863
And yet they still don't switch to AMD gpus.

>>107313695
This. With the recent BIOS updates your CPU is safe on the AsRock NOVA unless of course you crank up the PBO 2 Scalar and thus put it under deadly stress. This is what I suspect to be the cause of many reported burnouts. People overvolted their CPUs and lied about it or didn't even realize they did.

> Scalar is a tool that allows the user to override the warranted silicon stress level, or FIT, to achieve higher frequency. You can adjust the maximum allowed FIT level to 10 times higher than the factory-fused limit. While the tool offers precise granularity, typically, you’ll find the available options to range between 1X and 10X in steps of 1 multiple.

> The effect of increasing Scalar is that the Precision Boost algorithm more aggressively pursues higher voltages as it is less concerned with CPU lifespan. The tool’s relevance shifts from architecture to architecture as the FIT is only one of the Precision Boost infrastructure limiters managing the maximum allowed voltage.

https://skatterbencher.com/2025/03/11/skatterbencher-85-ryzen-9-9950x3d-overclocked-to-5900-mhz/#OC_Strategy_2_PBO_Tuned

t. runs a 9950X3D on AsRock Nova , PBO Scalar x1 (for longevity)

>>107314852
Wasn't that car companies cancelling chip orders because they didn't think they'd make/sell many cars during covid and they got pushed back to the very back of the queue when they finally resumed orders?

>>107314818
>Is everyone here just buying for gaming computers?
like 90% of people here are only building for gaming and say anyone looking to do anything else should go buy a $13000 Threadripper

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I found the solution
just consoom the 5k 27" when it drops, by allah it is minimum 240hz
imagine if they drop in a dual mode (unlikely) 480hz 1440p mode......
they instantly win goated monitor
but seems nothing except woled does that

2026 battle.. 5k 27" QDOLED vs 4k 27"-32" trueRGB stripe LG oleds?????

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https://mobomaps.com/board-viewer.html?board=msi-x870e-p-wifi
I finished buying the last few parts for my new build the other day. While I'm capable of building the machine myself, troubleshooting etc, I can't really into understanding hardware specs very well. I spoke to a consultant instore - enthusiast retailer with Chinese staff - who encouraged me to get this because it was the cheapest non-Asrock x870 they had, and it was a new arrival (In New Zealand). How did I do? It seems to have good reviews on Amazon. I get the impression that most mobos with a given chipset are samey unless they have egregious incompatabilitiy errors like Asrock+AM5.

Rest of build
CPU - 9800X3D
GPU - 9070XT Steel Legend
RAM - Corsair Vengeance 64gb 6000mhz 30-36-36-76
PSU - Corsair RM850x Gold80+
New m.2 - SN8100 1tb - I don't know if I should put OS install on here or the large filesize games I play the most frequently.

Already owned
CPU fan - NH-D15
Case - Fractal Define 7

Will look at buying some extra fans and maybe another SSD in a month or two, but I can more or less assemble it now.

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>>107313326
it's not even a matter of price anymore

>>107314818
X3D is for gaming, and nothing hbeats the 9800X3D at gaming. It costs $500 and is the bestselling DIY CPU by far. Even AMD didn't realize that the only people that buy these retail CPUs are gamers and initially made way less than they thought they would sell, and that's with the popularity of the 5800x3d and 7800x3d

>>107313730
> experts say, people report
A microwave is not bad just because Americans fry their pets in it.

>>107314894
the issue was car companies operated with minimal parts kept in warehouses for whatever reason, and this made them vulnerable to supply chain disruptions
Im not sure how what you're describing happened.

>>107314916
>Cheaping out on the GPU with a $430+ CPU
Grim

>>107314916
Sorry, forgot to add, already owned monitor LG 27GL850. Might look at getting another one, I saw a 27G640A-B instore and it looked amazing, was relatively cheap and seemed to have pretty good build quality.

BOY OH BOY, I SURE WONDER HOW /G/ IS HANDLING THE RAM SITUATION?

>>107314921
bro that's totally fake they can ship that ram today for $50

>>107314926
(You) and everyone else who doesn't know better are not a professional gamer and you'd be better served by the $250 265K in your general day to day computing (it will also age much better with 20 cores). Salesmen who make commission like YouTubers and store reps will upsell people the $500 9800X3D and get away with it because of some kind of mass psychosis and misinfo.

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>>107314485
>>107314705
If only we knew how bad things really would be

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It seems 6% marketshare was not low enough for AMD

give next gen gpus already. we need to beat the 4090 without it costing more than a grand.

>>107315002
peak AMD reddit delusion
lisa su isn't your friend

>>107315003
>AMD is the only company who is going to raise prices
nvidia is going to raise them by more than 10%, they are just waiting because they have a larger stockpile of ram.

>>107313617
Maybe the new ones are fixed, but then how can you be sure they won't sell you and old one?

peevidia and shitntel sell overpriced buggy hardware, facts don't care about your feelings

>>107314897
oh yeah if they release it gimped on dp1.4 175hz max wiht dsc
dp2.1 500hz 5k
I can't run it 240hz on dp1.4 dsc it's over

>>107315067
you lost, nicotroon

>>107313243
>alkash
good morning saar

>>107315067
>overpriced buggy
That's literally AMD's whole schtick.
On the flipside, because of people like you, I can get the good and functional stuff from Intel and Nvidia for cheaper.

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>>107313243
you forgot the intel goat

>>107315118
buy an ad jufes

Why do people make GPU companies their personality?

>>107315087
>aлкaш
>saar
лoл
лмao
learn the difference, cyкa, it could save your life

i have a 9800x3d and a 3070 card. what should i upgrade my gpu to, considering that i'm a little bit broke?

>>107315231
A stolen 5090

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anyone care to explain why VA TVs have diagonal scan lines that when you move objects around them the graphics flicker because the lines don't line up?
is this BGR in action? is it VA? don't think it's va since monitor did not behave in this fashion unless my memory is rusty as fuck
BGR+Low ppi?

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>>107315231
too broke for klarna?

>>107315231
what is the point of upgrading, there's nothing you cant already play and this gen of cards is shit. The next AMD card is going to make this one irrelevant and the current nvidia cards are abysmal value.

>>107315267
i see... wasn't aware that it was this grim right now. so i should just be patient and wait until the next amd card?

>>107315231
5070 has been pretty cheap

>>107315290
honestly I would say that is the best option, yeah, next gen will be the playstation 6 gen, it's gonna be great

>>107315290
Absolutely not you should just get a 9070XT now and that'll last you a lot longer than that 3070 ever will. It's not even about futureproofing you just need to buy a card that's going to let you be able to skip 1-2 generations which will 100% have even worse pricing and a 3070 is not that it got obsoleted immediately because of 8GB VRAM.

Future GPUs won't save you they all just get more expensive there's no point waiting for the future unless you are ready to pay $1000 for it.

regarding warranties, do i have to register parts to activate a warranty?

>>107315290
Next-gen cards will release in 2027.
Try un-broking yourself in the meantime. Video card prices will only go up.

>>107315350
Some manufacturers add 3 months or more to the manufacturer's warranty if you register the hardware and complete their survey.
You might as well get it over with. Better to have everything filed when you need an RMA.

>Muh privacy
We're not that important.

>>107314614
>>107314713
Yeah I was watching this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE7p8FHGC3Y
and it seems the 8GB of vram really cripples the 3070 in many games compared to the 2080ti
But also I guess that's only in games with high vram requirements. I don't know much about how important vram is or how often over 8gb is/was necessary.
Almost all the games he tried had the 3070 bottlenecked by vram, but there were a couple that didn't use much vram and was way faster on the 3070.

>>107315323
>>107315355
yeah alright, i'll consider that. probably better to rape my wallet now, than to get doubly raped in a few years.

Guys the PCs you are building now how long do you expect them to last

>>107315247
AI sez it could be BGR pixel mismatches but also slow VA pixel response
VA panels might be worse than I remember

>>107315385
8 years minimum

>>107315372
If you're planning to buy the 9070 XT, I recommend the PowerColor Red Devil available @ $650 (if your case fits it).
Might as well pay a bit more for a high-tier model.
The only better card is the XFX Mercury @ $720~740 (Magnetic bearing fans cost more), but it's not worth that premium over the Red Devil.

>>107315385
2 years

>>107315385
two socket/ram gens not counting possible cpu and gpu upgrades.

>>107315398
it's the mercury OC, not the mercury, yes they are different, the mercury OC is the goat

>>107314897
this would be perfect for a 200% scaling enjoyer like myself, but i am afraid about compatibility and performance
most of the world still isn't on 4k yet

>>107315427
>this would be perfect for a 200% scaling enjoyer like myself,
I don't even know if 200% scaling "solves" scaling problems on lower things? I tried it once I think and some shit was still as blurry as before it changed nothing but idk
everything will look even more insane though yea

>but i am afraid about compatibility
?? people are using upscaling at above 4k just fine right now

>and performance
just render at any res or use heavier upscaling

>most of the world still isn't on 4k yet
and

>>107315385
i have to build a new pc every year

Antex Flux Pro check, anyone got any feedback on this case?
hows dust after having it working for a few months?

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Don't know if this belongs in /sqt/ instead, but how fucked am I doing a fresh PC build rn, with the way RAM has been inflated and is unlikely to come back down now, similar to CPU's and GPU's?
The major parts I want to replace is my CPU and mobo, as I've had my current build for almost 7 years now and I've been having problems with my CPU overheating. I'm currently using a 8th gen i7 and an 8GB 3070. I also have 4x8 GB DDR4-3600 Ram that I wouldn't mind using in my next build with my 3070 if prices are going to be so fucked for awhile

>>107315290
depends if you can wait, i cant so i just bought a 9070xt but if i wasn't forced to build a new one now id just wait till RDNA 5.

>>107315385
10 years is the lowest acceptable minimum, I'm hoping for 20 and anything more is good

>>107315385
I usually use them for like 8 years but this one i expect to be outdated very quickly. I specifically bought amd shit so i can turn it into a linux piracy console when im forced to upgrade in 3 years.

>>107315520
just buy a cpu cooler and wait for the prices to calm down

>>107315290
You should never buy an amd card

>>107313321
For me it is a space constraint, if I place it on my desk i will have to move things around. That is why the steam machine appeals to me, but the specs are reported to be shit, and if I spend some money I don't want to regret it. Thats why I figured MicroATX might be a good idea.

>>107313412
Will be looking into the 14900k

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>>107313370
>non-standard
you can install standard sizes if the pre-installed die

it has been 4 days since i ordered my parts and pc part picker is telling me the price of my PC has gone up by 375 dollars. Buying pc components used to be fun, now its just endless stock market analysis and panic buying.

>>107315520
You can carry over those memory sticks to an Intel 13/14th gen build, 14600K is good enough for most people.
The chip will be fine with the latest microcode installed on the motherboard.
14600K doesn't boost high enough to cause degradation.

AM3 Ryzen 5000 CPUs are an alternative, but they are weaker.

>>107315556
>Will be looking into the 14900k
You better be comfortable with changing BIOS settings, because they run very power inefficiently at stock BIOS settings.

>>107315556
>Will be looking into the 14900k
Don't get goofed by the Intel fanboys.

See:
>>107313331
>>107313423

>>107315472
I guess I have some annoying memories from when I was using 16:10, but it's true that nothing was all that bad.
But then there's the question of refresh rates. 5K240Hz won't even work with "regular" DP 2.1 80Gbps cables without DSC.

So, how do I make sure my ram doesn't die in the next few years?

>>107315520
Where were you when we were screaming BUY BUY BUY at the start of the month?

>>107315637
have a good UPS, clean electric grid and obviously a good PSU

>>107315548
My fear is that it'll keep going up, but I'm also hopeful that someone at the top goes "wait wtf are we doing" and pulls the plug on AI. A new cooler might be a good fix for now
>>107315582
I was considering AMD, but I'm also using my PC as for video editing and a lot of software is more compatible with Intel chips. I get there's alternatives, but I actually love Pro Tools and Avid only likes Intel

>>107313132
Is over £100 more expensive than the other brands, what's the catch?

>>107315722
minute 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWmHiweBQ6E

>>107315637
Sacrifice some old SD and MircroSD cards to the flash gods.

I should've bought a white psu. Can any cable extensions work or do I have to use specific ones? Are they safe to use in a 5070ti using 12vhpwr?

>>107314373
depending on the mobo it could fry inteself in 5 minutes
and lol at the nigger going crazy again
>amd bad, 3d cache bad, the internet is lying to you
>listen to me instead, the honest anon that tells you to buy intel

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>>107315815
at least it's not AMD which is guaranteed to fry itself eventually

>>107314373
that seems really good actually
that ram must be priced pre hike

https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1993010419494273300
the bubble, it will burst and it'll hurt so bad, I'm telling you, another deepseek moment sends the US into a bad recession, 50% of growth being AI capex means the rest of the economy is anemic

I can't see the difference between DLSS On or Off at 4K.
Can somebody point out the flaws so my ignorant bliss can be shattered and I'll now notice the issues and be unable to use it?

>>107315910
upscalling is the future, just be in ignorance, it's best for you, the differences are very small

I'm buying a refurbished laptop. Should I get the one with ryzen 7 7435HS and ddr5 ram (4800mt) or the one with i7 13620h with ddr4 ram (3200). Ryzen laptop is 20 bucks cheaper which does add up since I'm already kinda over budget

>>107315910
4K DLSS looks way better than "native" (actually ugly forced blurry TAA) now anyway.

>>107315910
Shimmering/ghosting in some moving objects, more noticeable in darker scenes.

>just sold my used, shitty DD4 3200 CL22 for more than i paid for my 64GB DDR5 6000 CL30 DRAM
what is happening

>>107315955
people are desperate and dumb

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>spend 100€ on mcd goyslop
>don't bat an eye
>spend 100€ on electronics returns
>visibly upset

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it's a nothingburger and you're all falling for it

>Processor: Intel Core i7-14700KF 8P+12E/28T 33MB s.1700
>Motherboard: MSI B760 Gaming Plus WiFi socket 1700
>Memory: 32GB 2x16GB DDR5 6400 G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Black
>Video card: INNO3D GeForce RTX5070 X2 12GB GDDR7
>Disk: 1TB Kingston NV3 Series SSD NVMe
>Cooler: Lian Li GALAHAD II 360 Trinity AIO ARGB Black
>Case: Darkflash DS900 AIR Black USB-C ATX Case
>Power supply: 750W Montech CENTURY G5 80+ GOLD Modular
>Included fans: 6 pcs. 120mm ARGB backlight
>Dollar equivalent price: 2200 USD (Yurop prices for parts)

Is this good to play vidya on high settings for a few years, and be able to update the box?

>>107315969
Money is a weird thing.

>$3K on something that you'll use every day for a couple of years
>Insane.
>Why do you need to spend that much?

>Extra $100 on nicer tasting food every week.
>Well, nigga gotta eat, can't just live on chicken and rice.
>Life is too short for bad food

>>107315631
If they ship 165hz it's because the scalers can't cope with more and they are fitting it in the dp1.4 dsc meme
If they ship dp2.1 and dsc 240 it will kinda be the first monitor demanding that much bandwidth? Also scaler limitation again since dp2.1 dsc literally can do twice

But I might have to take the ppi pill again rendering objects on low ppi.. yeah ..

>>107316024
Is this a prebuild?
Ryzen AM5 is more user-friendly than Intel 14700K/F.
14700K/F and 14900K/F are for people who can manually tweak a few BIOS settings on a Z690/Z790 board.

>>107316090
>Is this a prebuild?
Sort of, a hardware store has these parts and the people there will assemble it and fix the BIOS stuff and send it over.

>>107315993
When has waiting ever worked out?

>>107315931
>ugly forced blurry TAA
this is what dlss/fsr haters forget to mention

>>107315385
I got around 15 years out of my current PC. I wont attempt to stretch it that long again. I think between DLSS and a last gen AM5 cpu drop in, ill get atleast 6+ years. this CPU should ride me into the end of AM5 and ill decide if it feels worth grabbing the 5800x3d equivalent for AM5. I can lower resolution and graphics settings towards the end, use more aggressive up-scaling, overclock more aggressively, and lower my expectations to prolong it. I think I have a reasonable expectation

>>107315969
>>107316051
it is far easier to spend $100 ten times than it is to drop $1k on something. the brain is hard wired to have a horrible concept of value

>>107316144
>if i throw shit at the shitstain no one will notice anyway :^)
this is what you sound like

>>107316182
Wish mine worked that way 0% interest means you'd be saving money over paying all up front. But I just can't buy anything unless I can afford it all immediately.

>>107316100
The hardware store will probably just update the BIOS and enable XMP.
If you're fine with that (CPU should be safe), it is what it is.
You'll be missing like 10% potential multicore performance vs. a tuned 14700KF, won't matter much for gaming.
Price seems nuts tho.

>>107316168
>reasonable
i like this approach anon, you are /valuemaxxing/ your investment in hardwares.

>9950X
>Asus 5070 Ti OC
>64 GB 6000 MHz DDR5
how retarded is this build

>>107315993
Can Tim Sweeney finally take the L and just partner with nvidia so devs are forced to use the nvidia branch for unreal engine 5, fucking arc raiders runs above 60 fps on a GTX 970 while borderlands 4 requires a 5090. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sip5eKr45aE

>>107316213
Its fine for some productivity tasks
terrible value for gaming

>>107316225
Arc Raiders just disabled all the resource-heavy UE5 features.

>>107313249
990 Pro is wasting money, you almost don't notice the faster speed

>>107316213
Depends what you are doing the only retarded thing about its the CPU unless you are doing workloads that need it like premier pro, 3d graphics, maya and anything that hammers the cpu like handbreak otherwise why not get a 9800x3d

>>107316244
What's a good M.2 ssd? I wanna get one since I realized my motherboard actually has a slot for it.

>>107316237
not disabled but replaced, current nvidia branch has more efficient tools that do exactly the same, ReSTIR is exactly the same shit as lumen but it does not send you back to the stone age in terms of fps and mega geometry is exactly like nanite but on steroids while sending your fps to the medieval age instead of the stone age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCpsMmt4StQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRLGPkc1jbw

>>107316244
but they are reliable

>>107316110
When I waited for the 4090. It was definitely worth it. Almost three years now and still no regret.
As a general rule of thumb, waiting for the beginning of a year instead of ordering hardware late in a year in most cases saves money. January is the best month to shop.

>>107316277
Arc Raiders use none of those tech demo features.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCWtIIlFXHA

>>107316024
> b670
Unlocked chip on locked mobo isn't optimal. If possible, I'd use a Z board over B.
> nv3
These are pretty mediocre, and it seems random if a given drive uses TLC or QLC flash. I'd use a good budget TLC drive here, like Lexar NM790.

>>107316302
I'm starting to think waiting for black Friday sales and deals was a mistake
I'm pretty sure that even excluding ram, I could have bought everything at least 20 bucks cheaper if I pulled the trigger a month ago

>>107316306
For the last time, i know more than you, Arc raiders replaced lumen with RTXGI , load the files on an IDE and see it for yourself which kind of illumation they are doing, its not like BF6 in which they do baked lighting

>>107316213
Not retarded enough. Get a 9700 XT (no cuda cores) to make it FULL retard.

>>107316203
Oh i meant on separate purchases but I know what you mean. I took advantage of paypals 20% cashback for pay in 4, 0 interest, prolong payments for a few months, get 20% cash back... and I instantly just paid the full balance. I never carry a balance on my credit card either, cant stand the idea. but that 20% cashback was worth it
>>107316210
thanks anon! lots of different ways to approach it too

>>107316110
remember eth insanity?
we are not even close to that escalation level yet.

Is 12gb vram sufficient for long term gaming, or is 16gb a must?

>>107316358
settings can always be lowered or turned off if they use too much vram

>>107316233
>why not 9800x3d
are the additional cores really not going to help me do.. computer stuff? i have not had a computer for a decade.
>productivity tasks
i want to be productive. maybe fool around with servers or coding.
>>107316233
on account of 64 GB vs 32 GB or choice of CPU? i assume the gpu is fine.
>>107316335
i would like to try ai stuff. (yes this means paying double so i can generate a midriff 20 times after following a manual for 10 hours)

>>107316358
16 is ideal but I'd rather be stuck with a 12gb Nvidia card than a 16gb AMD card.

>>107316358
4k target it's not going to hold up long term (think like 3+ years) but other than that 12gb is likely to be "okay" for a while. People still get by with 8, still don't think there's a single game that won't function tolerably on 6gb.

>>107316382
>People still get by with 8
haha, yeah

I've been gaming on 2gb vram for years

>>107316365
the cores obviously matter if you use productivity apps where a 16 core cpu takes half the time to do the tasks vs a 8core
you can buy a 9950x3d and its great for both gaming and productivity
or just get 8core cpu if you arent going to do a lot max core workloads a lot of the time

32gb is enough for casual browsing, productivity and gaming
64gb is most commonly used for some local LLM ai stuff, but since ddr5 ram is horribly expensive nows the worst time to do that

5070 ti is generally the best value gpu for medium high end productivity and gaming, but for AI people dish out to get 5090 with 32gb vram

I caved in and boughted the 9070 XT Steel Legend, I wanted another model but the retailers in my country simply don't do black friday deals on higher end GPUs.
The card is like 4 times better than my GTX 1070, I will run it at -30% power limit and try to undervolt it as much as I can. I really don't need that much power. I am still at 1080p.

>>107316434
>I am still at 1080p.
What's your CPU?

>>107316447
5700x3d

Can the 5080 do 4K?

>>107316457
sure

>>107316457
define "4k"

>>107316397
Wtf? How? I upgraded a while back from an R9 280 and while I was fucking around with the iGPU on my new 7800X3D it was running games better than that 3GB shitcard.