>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch delayed. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Redstone announcement Dec. 10th
New Steam hardware

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.
RTX 5090: you don't need /g/'s advice if you're seriously considering to buy this card.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

If you don't the Noctua T-shirt, the Noctua hoodie, the Noctua screwdrivers and the Noctua desk mat, you don't belong on /pcbg/. Also AIOs are officially shit and overrated until Noctua release theirs at which point we'll be able to stop pretending.

>>107358530
>I'd avoid Ventus or similarly unremarkable, reference-grade cards.
I guess I'll have to look those up, since I'm seeing a lot of Dell OEM and Palit GameRock models and I am fairly certain those are references PCBs.

>>107358535
Nack tuah

>want to buy a 40 or 50 series card
>PSU doesn't have a 12Vhousefire connector
Wat do?

>>107358476
god just get a dual chamber case
why do boomers live like this

>>107358553
they come with adapters when you buy them

>>107358476
It's Just impossible anon, get an atx case

>>107358543
Reference cards are reference cards. A Ventus will be noisier and hotter than comparable alternatives but it is still a reference card and will perform as advertised.

>>107358535
>If you don't the Noctua T-shirt
Typical surface level Nocktard

>>107358543
Don’t listen to him, it’s almost never worth it to go above reference. Only get premium cards if you want the aesthetics or they are so heavily discounted that they cost the same as reference cards. The only meaningful thing non-reference cards give you is a quieter cooling solution.

>>107358568
what if I'm buying used

>>107358588
You'd have to ask the seller and double check but they generally ship them too

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>>107358535
I still want the Noctua Pulsar collab mouse with the fan in it.

>>107358587
I agree with this anon, premium cards are almost always a meme.

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850W or 1000W PSU for 9800X3D-RX9070XT?

>>107358617
850W is fine, but I like using my power supplies for as long as possible so I would go with at least a 1000W.

>>107358599
Is that like 40mm? Didn't know they make fan at this size

>>107358599
That's the most beautiful thang I've ever seen

>>107357796
1:30:00 stress test passed, I'm going to try lowering trc43 trdwr10 twrrd2 now
then I'll consider it pretty much done, will stress it 5+ hours
after that I could try somethint crazy like tcl 16

>>107358599
>>107358632
Did Playskool make it?

750W PSU enough for a 4080S? I originally specced this build for a Vega FE, I can add a second 750W PSU if needed.

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>>107358626
tier list for 1000w?

>>107358628
>Is that like 40mm?
Yeah it's this one
https://www.noctua.at/en/products/nf-a4x10-pwm

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I swear Germany is the worst country in the world. This ram situation is beyond scalping pure kikery.

>>107358617
850w is enough

>>107358659
Can you pretend to be a muslim migrant for a heavy discount?

>>107358655
HX1000i
RM1000x

If you have a smaller Dual Fan RTX 5060ti 16gb

What sort of monitor should you be aiming for?

>>107358659
What the fuck, that’s over 4x the price we are paying here.

>>107358659
now "they're" just takin advantage of europeans being total pushovers and yes men

>>107358675
Size of card and number of fans does not impact monitor decision.

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>>107358659
Well, dont by from such scam stores

>>107358692
so it has the same performance as a fullsize 3 fan 5060ti?

My 7900xtx is only aging better

>>107358711
Yeah

>>107358711
Not quite (boost clocks might not be held for as long) but not enough to warrant a monitor downgrade. The difference will be marginal at best.

>>107358717
Pretty scary that they were already calling it a legacy device and tried dropping it entirely before people rightfully ripped them a new asshole for it. I hope it works out for you, but I just don't trust AMD when it comes to GPUs.

>>107358572
>>107358587
>cost the same as reference cards
This is just coping. $50 extra for a 9070 XT Red Devil or a 5070 Ti Gaming Trio is worth it.
You're already past the point of getting value for money at these video card prices.

Reference cards are fine for the lower price points if you're willing to tune everything to reduce the fan noise.

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Why is m performance so shit? Its minecraft bedrock with the vibrant visual option running on a 6600xt. If I turn it off I get 165fps so 6600xt is at fault because it cant handle shaders

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>Paying $300 for an PSU

>>107358717
i have the 7900xt and i feel like amd or kind acting like jews in regards to us rdna 3 users

>>107358535
ngl, had me until the last part

>>107358553
buy a new 3.1 certified psu or burn up your psu side like eonontech bald guy on youtube did with this 5090
dead ass

>>107358587
I should have bought the 5090 dip..... I should have bought the ram.....
wait until 6090 release

>>107358634
daily reminder that benchmark in windows stable is not IF-stable
Audiocracklepops and usb dropouts send their regards

>>107358659
it's same everywhere
especially 6000c30 hynix kits are hyperblasted in the ass

>>107358746
1000w pcie3.1 on sale for 99 bux
you literally dont need more

>>107358746
worth it if you get almost inaudible coil whine from your system, a lot of it comes from a shitty or even mid spec psu.

>>107358744
What do you get for $50? Even the pre-overclocked ones are usually so modest, you can almost always achieve the same clocks on a reference card. For me, yeah it's worth it because I don't mind knowing I have a slightly more efficient cooler. But that's me, I know it's not really different in terms of performance, at least in a decently cooled mid tower case. What I truly recommend avoiding is shit like Strix, or Aorus. That is a total waste, unless you really don't mind paying for how they look.

Windows 11 sucks

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>>107358748
I warned you guys to stop at the GRE if you really needed an RDNA3 card.
Even advised people not to buy new motherboards until the early adopters were done being the unpaid beta testers.

>>107358662
>>107358672
How good is Corsair 1000W RM1000e its 50 bucks off

>>107358742
You're thinking of RDNA2. Complete different microarchitecture. This is gfx1100.
>>107358748
Its better than 9070xt on Linux it has all the RADV optimizations while RDNA4 lags behind.

Daily RDOA3 abandonware cope time

THE XTX IS GREAT

FSR3 IS GREAT

I USE 24GB VRAM ALL THE TIME

I DID NOT WASTE $1000

>>107358744
If you want to get a nicer looking card for $50, that’s fine, but it will only be 1-2% faster than reference and run a bit quieter. It’s a luxury.
But you should never say “avoid reference cards”. That’s stupid.

>>107358804
Why can't RDNA3 use FSR4? I really don't get it, even jewvidia lets RTX 2000 series cards use DLSS 4, they just can't do the frame-gen.

Nobody wants to acknowledge the 6600xt cant handle minecrafts new graphic option because AMD already dropped driver support for a 4 year old card

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>>107358813
When you're paying above $600 for a card, you should be expecting better than reference build quality and cooling performance.
Guys like you are the reason why MSI keeps shitting out awful $750 cards like the Ventus.

>>107358794
RMe is a lower class with 3 years less warranty
It aint bad per se but I would spend the extra 50 bucks for a 10 year warranty

>FSR3 IS GREAT
lol

over the course of buying am5 cuz of this stupid ram shit i just realized i'll essentially have two pcs at this point. is an am4 system with a 6600, 5700X, and 32GB ram worth flipping or should i use it as a secondary unit for who knows what for

>>107358822
you can with work arounds and the performance hit isn't even that big, amd just want people to buy there rdna 4 stock that they probably over produced so they will never officially allow fsr 4 on rdna 3.

>>107358692
>>107358723
>>107358741
so what monitor would pair well with rtx5060ti 16?

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>>107358476
is 545€ for a 9070xt a good price?

>>107358881
It's a good deal, that Prime card is fine.

>>107358881
for that particular model yea shit was pre-scalped back at launch

>>107358881
seems cheap they are usually considered at msrp around 600€

>spending 550 euros to play UE5 slop

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kek the ram i bought back in february for $379 costs over $800 now

glad i built my pc when i did... i can wait out this entire ai money burning bubble before my next build.

>>107358873
1080p 120Hz, 1440p if you're fine with relying on DLSS
anything else is up to you or your budget

>>107358836
bro i have for free retailer warranty for 5 years

>>107358553
Some higher-end PSU manufacturers sell their own 12V-2x6 cables that can connect to older PSUs.
You can also find third-party 12V-2x6 cables (not adapter) that are pin compatible with your PSU.
This is assuming you own a relatively high-end ATX 2.x PSU, some of these were overbuilt to the point of already meeting new ATX 3.x specs.

>>107358926
But you will have either 7 or 10 years warranty directly with corsair

>>107358873
any poverty tier IPS 166hz+ 1440p

>>107358908
my current 5700xt is absolut garbage fire trash and the drivers keep shitting themselves every other day
I genuinely feel like smashing it to pieces with a hammer as soon as I get the 9070

So, no real GPU deals today, I guess? I'm thinking I need to grab something sooner than later for any kind of build in the next few months. Got my ram and nvme... maybe I'll grab a mobo and CPU today. Didn't see any real CPU deals, either. Black Friday has kinda been a bust for the last 10 years.

>>107358936
in 5 years i can buy ROG THOR III LCD PSU if i need to

>>107358955
>months
GPU prices are going to skyrocket starting next week
Buy now or in 2027

Do I want to sidegrade my 6800 to 9060XT16 if I have a buyer for my old card?
What's the best AIB that's not retardedly overpriced?

>>107358955
>So, no real GPU deals today, I guess?
No, everyone knows they're only going to go up in price so they're in no rush to get rid of them.

>>107358972
xfx

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>>107358955
>He actually waited™ for Black Friday deals.

the cheapest ram kit i can get right now in Europe is the Patriot Viper Venom UDIMM 36CL DDR5-6000 Dual-Kit - 32 GB for about 280€
should I just go for it?

>>107358955
i cant even remember the last time there were holiday sales on things like graphics cards. I guess there's always new people who don't know better getting into the hobby.

>>107358980
i got 250 off 9800x3D and 9070 XT
trying to find good psu and fans from sale

>>107358972
thats close to a downgrade more than to a sidegrade unless you need something specific from the 9060xt that yours wont do

>>107358969
Sure, waste your money as much as you wish

>>107358981
>36cl, 6000 hmz
no

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>>107358980
Did I? I got the main inflationary monsters before the huge leap. $375 for both.

I don't need to build or even buy now. I have 2 PCs I use plus another ready to sell. I know GPUs are gonna go up next. I haven't even decided on what CPU to go with yet.

>>107358993
And holy schitt, what a bad time to get into the hobby.

>>107359003
nta but how would it be a downgrade? It looks like it's slightly better in just about every way, especially with ray tracing and upscaling.

do people really set -30 curve optimizer? mines isnt stable more than -10.

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>RGB is on sale not regulars
i heard RGB fans are harder to install. Is it just time to take the RGB pill?

>>107358972
XFX Swift ($360) or Mercury OC ($370) given current US prices.

>>107359007
so I should go for a 30cl one?

>>107359045
its hard to install in the sense that theres now a extra connector for the lights and argb connectors are the most cheap flimsy shit ever

im waiting

>>107359037
Silicon lottery. I have 2 @-30 stable and another that wasn't happy with -10.

>>107359045
Depends on what you get. There're nice Corsair systems that daisy chain all the fans, power and ARGB, with a single cable going back to the controller. Nice and tidy. But, not cheap.

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>>107359037
There's no point in making cross-comparisons for these undervolts.
Chips made on the same wafer have different power characteristics.
It could just mean your cores have a tighter & more power-efficient V/F curve out of the box.

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>>107358634
doesnt post at tRC 43 or 46, settled with 56
doesn't post with tRDWR 10 and tWRRD 2
I'm settling on those timings for a while now, I'm tired boss
it's a lot of work for 1.4ns improvement on aida64 latency
now I'll stress it for a bit, then use the compooter, then stress overnight

>>107359049
[spoiler]depends if you have X3D and good mobo[/spoiler]
[spoiler]only poor people buy 36cl ram[/spoiler]

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>>107359051
>>107359092
Are Phanteks D30 140mm set worth it? I can literally try to find something else.

>>107359111
yes I will have a x3d. not sure about the mobo yet. thought about a gigabyte b850.

found another offer for the Team Group DIMM 32 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 16 GB) Dual-Kit for 300€.

its 30cl isnt it

my pc dims the lights in my room when i turn it on

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>>107359108
>>107359092
okay I see

>>107359122
if you go b850 crap then might as well go for shit ram
if you have good mobo use good ram
try to find cheap mobo,ram,x3d boxes

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>>107358476
Pleading at this point to see if anyone else is getting these kind of patterns on a 9800X3D. Just whatever game I play I get these insane 0.1% spikes

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>>107359128
i have electricity problems too
when it gets cold around this year people start turning on space heaters and the shitty wiring in my building starts increasing the voltage from the wall.

One time last year it got to 150 volts and the avr in my ups gave up and the unit declared the wall unfit to power anything and went to battery kek, fortunately 40 minutes later it dipped back into the avr threshold, i had like 17% battery left.

>>107359176
never had that happened to me. just happens when I turn it on

Is PCComponentes a good site? It has mixed reviews but they got the best GPU prices in Europe

Is the RTX 3060 12GB really an 8GB card?

>>107359146
why is the b850 bad? seems like a normal mid class mb

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>>107359168
Disable all GPU power monitoring sensors if you have an NVIDIA card, GPU power % sensor is CPU demanding.
The voltage readings can stay on.

>>107359213
then buy midrange ram

>>107359223
I don't think I have any monitoring software though. This is a fresh install

>>107359224
bro you have no choices right now. every fucking ram kit is just out of stock

buy the cheapest ram you can to boot the compooter and wait for the prices to drop, go to the testinggames youtube channel and watch the last video where he tests different ram speeds, it's not important (on x3d)

>>107359241
Could be a game engine issue then (shader comp, traversal stutter, etc).

>>107359252
not in my country.

>>107359241
Not even MSI Afterburner? If that's running and power monitoring is active, it can cause microstutters.

>>107359273
Nope
>>107359258
True, just seems to be happening on basically every game I play. I will conceed that I've looked at these charts non-stop since I got this 9800X3D

>>107358851
well now possibilities have opened up
time to get exploring

Asus ROG STRIX X870-F 350e (100 off)
or
MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK normal 370

>>107358881
I like primes ASUS are the only ones that bothered to dual bios their msrp cards

>>107359204
no

>>107359260
ok sir what about the GIGABYTE X870 A Elite then combined with the Team Group DIMM 32 GB DDR5-6000

>>107359309
I'd be looking at background processes like Discord or anything else that's active while you're gaming. From your chart, it's not random, but exactly every 6 seconds. Something is polling something at regular intervals and it's not the game.

Have we reached peak RAM prices, or do you expect it to go even higher?

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Are there are differences between these two listings for Corsair RM850x with different prices, both 2024 edition, both sold and shipped by Amazon?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DJ1JL3MK?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0FLFGG1CC?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

(Tried Grok, but it kept trying to compare the listing to the shift version of this PSU instead of the other listing)
I bought the B0DJ1JL3MK listing recently and now have to haggle with indian customer service or return and rebuy

>>107359361
We're probably about 1/3rd of the way up to peak pricing.

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>>107359217
imagine not building earlier this year or last year
lmao
kek even

>>107359361
Technically we have - but just because in the coming months RAM will go from having crazy prices to straight up unavailability.

>>107359128
Get a UPS

>>107359361
I haven't seen prices rise this week but I've seen a lot just run out of stock and not be restocked at all. In previous weeks they'd restock at higher prices but the previously cheaper kits are just going out of stock now. Only the retard expensive ones are left now.

>>107359354
If you are using X3D even the budget one just Aorus Elite X807E and get RAM that is CL30, 6000hmz if you are in fucked price range get RAM that is closest to that.
You can also try get MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK or MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK for 20 more.
Aorus Elite X870E > X870E Tomahawk > X870 Tomahawk

>>107359361
This is peak so far, it will definitely go up. There's still supply, it will get insane when there's almost no supply for consumers.

>>107359389
Wait until black Friday is over. Expect and fast spike in all dram and storage prices. I feel their strategy was to hold prices until the "sales" are over and then let the market do it's thing.

>>107358535
I have the Noctua fridge magnet, but I don't have enough points for the coffee tumbler yet

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>>107359168
>he fell for the $500 8-core meme
8 cores today is like 4 cores in 2020
get a 9950x3d, even an error lake i7 is better than these overhyped corelet "gayming" chips

>>107359425
Enjoy your core parking

>>107359425
>$500 8-core meme
I'll never understand it. Sure gaming, yes, fine. But $500 for 8 cores will never ever make sense to me. I doubt it even makes sense to AMD. Even they didn't know they'd sell so many.

>>107357796
>enabling geardown mode doesnt allow for uneven tcl so it went to 18
that's fine, because CL 18 at 1T is equivalent to CL 17 at 2T, there's an extra cycle of latency with 2T
>after that I could try somethint crazy like tcl 16
you need more voltage for that, guaranteed
hynix doesn't do tight primaries
>>107358761
>daily reminder that benchmark in windows stable is not IF-stable
>Audiocracklepops and usb dropouts send their regards
i feel like you have some personal experience with this
but yes, it is, if you use the right benchmark
y-cruncher VT3, OCCT CPU+RAM, etc
any WHEA error is a fail
>>107359110
>settled with 56
sensible
>doesn't post with tRDWR 10 and tWRRD 2
good thing your board can recover from those kinds of errors lmao
i had to reset CMOS on my old board if secondaries or tertiaries were off
>it's a lot of work for 1.4ns improvement on aida64 latency
i feel like you should be getting lower latency with those timings
low-to-mid 60s at least
run OCCT CPU+RAM for an hour and see if it survives, IF could genuinely be unstable
also watch for any WHEA errors in hwinfo (it's at the bottom of the list)

>>107359367
No real difference.
One is marked for North America sales (CP-9020270-NA ), the other appears to be for the broader Americas (CP-9020270-NA/AM).
The NA/AM model might have an extra power plug for the Americas (220V?).

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>>107359441
that was fixed during zen 3 chud

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Yes/No?
https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-275upd-e14-27-144hz-uhd-288hz-fhd-ips-metallic-black/p/N82E16824475509

>>107359477
Supposedly have mediocre/bad factory calibration wrt image quality.
Not bad if you're willing to tweak the image settings on your own.

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>>107359458
>i had to reset CMOS
I have to reset the CMOS every time it doesn't post, it's not fun
I'm watching for windows errors

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>>107359477
You get what you pay for, basically.

>>107359464
Bizarre, thanks. I gotta have them match the price drop since I bought at $129

>>107359514
>I have to reset the CMOS every time it doesn't post, it's not fun
never mind then, AM4 things i guess
>I'm watching for windows errors
good but you're not necessarily gonna get them during a memtest
OCCT CPU+RAM (the combined test) hammers the infinity fabric much harder

>>107359514
That's why I tell people the Clear CMOS button is the more valuable board feature for overclockers than muh 7-segment debug LED.
You're going to clear the CMOS whatever the debug display tells you most of the time.

>>107359532
if I get infinity fabric instability what can I do to fix it? I feel chops here and there while the memtest is running

>>107359518
I don't think Amazon provides price adjustments; you'll most likely need to start a return and buy the discounted one.

>>107359546
higher VSOC, higher VDDG IOD, higher or lower VDDG CCD
any of them could help
or lower your memory speed to 3666
>I feel chops here and there while the memtest is running
that's normal
but it's not normal if you're getting stutters while idle on the desktop

>>107359468
Get this anon... actually claiming the 9950x3d doesn't have core parking issues. Either blissfully or willfully ignorant, or a legit AMD PR employee.

>>107359570
>idle on the desktop
it's only when the memtest is running luckily
I'll download and run occt after I'm done with this test, I hate running it tho, it's the only thing that saturates this cpu cooler, it gets my cpu to 75c

Luv me Noctuas. Shrimple as.

>9070 xt costs $300 less than 5070 ti
Both are decent models and I wanted to try nvidia this time after using amd for a long time especially with amd dropping fsr3 support so fast but these prices are making it really hard to justify getting the 5070 ti.
How is 9070 xt for VR and older games? I'm still somewhat leaning towards the 5070 ti since it's supposedly better for those.

Which monitor should I go with?

MSI MAG 272QP
MSI MAG 273QP
GIGABYTE MO27Q2 SA1
LG 27GX704A-B

>>107359566
That's a shame if so, what a waste for everyone involved

>>107359601
They're a lifestyle brand at this point.

>>107358761
>usb dropouts
Hadn't heard of this. Interestingly, today my keyboard was not recognized when I booted my PC. I had to replug it.
Is it over for me, bros?

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>>107359647
Amazon have all the data to know they make more money maintaining this firm pricing policy.
Not enough people are willing to return earlier orders to get the product at a lower discount.

>>107359642
The cheapest QD-OLED out of those choices.
None of those if you're in the US.

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>>107359449
>Even they didn't know they'd sell so many
that's a bluff, i think they know

>>107359665
Your PC has a long laundry list of things to fire up on boot. Occasionally, something slips through the cracks. Don't worry unless it becomes a regular issue.

But, USB ports can and do go bad over time.

>>107359609
I don't think the 9070 XT would be that bad @ VR.
PSVR is running on AMD APUs.
I'd get the 9070 XT at that price difference.

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>MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK
or
>Asus ROG STRIX X870-F
or
>Asus ROG STRIX X870E-E

>>107359750
its all the same

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>>107358553
you remain a vramlet anon

>>107359762
tomahawk is cheapest, why does the X870E line suck so hard yet x3d rocks so hard

>>107359750
If you're asking, you don't need the costlier ones.
Get the cheapest of the three, guessing it's the Tomahawk.
Strix-E is the best option of the three.

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>>107359571
it's workable, and a shitty 9800X3D is worse. That shitty 8 core CPU lags in WINDOWS

i wanted to get nzxt c1000 atx 3.1 but does it have the extra protection features that are found in high end power supplies or are those a meme anyway?
i'm retarded so i can't comprehend or interpret the protection data in the linked site.
electricity is shitty where i live.

waiting for the actual black friday paid off. got a 9060xt 16gb for 40 bucks less than what it was yesterday

>>107359797
the 9070 xt taichi was at same price of the steel legend low end model I bought earlier in the week, I should've waited, but it's fine, I'll tell myself at least I don't have to deal with the 12vhpwr connector and be happy

>>107359726
They didn't. They sold out immediately and there was like a 3 month lead time before they finally started manufacturing in decent quantities while zen5% rotted on shelves.

>>107359781
X870E Nova would still have best price but the question is will ASRock rape my CPU. Like i can throw the extra 200 for STRIX-E

>>107359665
>Hadn't heard of this
some amd boards manufacturers put on so bad usb controllers the shit can't run 8000mhz polling
a history of drop outs before that due to whatever reason? known
idk
strange things happen

>>107359642
I don't know why 1440p is so close to 4k 240hz ones, kinda cooked to me

>>107359458
>i feel like you have some personal experience with this
not on am4 or am5 so idk
just regurgitant whatever I have seen repeatedly reported from am4 to am5 now

also, only my 9070 xt steel legend gets here, I'll be done with the mem overclocking and I'll try to undervolt it as much as possible at -30% PL, posting progress, doesn't take long since it's messing around with 2 knobs

>>107359571
It's a cope and we all know it
He'll turn around and admit the 9950x3d was pretty shitty for having glued dies when he gets his hands on a 1ccx 12-core zen6 x3d

>>107359792
C1000 has all the necessary protection features that are in other high-end PSUs.

5900XT anyone?

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>miss buying the 5090 dip
>it went from (Since we compare relatively to the sanest price-performance-gpus available) costing 3x 9070 XT's to now 4x 9070 XT
>miss the dip and you pay for an entire graphics card added on top
>justification disappearing more and more
>ram went up multiples of that even more

>>107359839
Strix-E is only $370 in the US, not that bad of a price considering the ASUS ROG tax ($100 more than the Nova).

>>107359865
make sure to check gpu-z and report what vram manufacturer did you get

>>107359925
hoping for samsung, but I'll be fine with hynix as well, I do know that cards needs to be repasted and pads changed once the warranty runs out

>>107359903
I was out of the market until I got this news and even then I was elsewhere for weeks, I hate not having eyes on this shit 24/7/365

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>>107358476
Ok anons, so I've had this PC (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y9cszP) for over a decade now (mostly, the case, the cooler and the PSU are a bit more recent, when I thought I'd upgrade but eventually didn't). Then I upgraded the GPU to RTX 3060 12GB some time ago, because the old one was really shit at running CoomerDiffusion. And then it turned out that doesn't have enough VRAM for some things I wanted to try recently, so I went full hog and bought this fucking fatass (picrel). Which can do a lot more, but still needs to offload some shit to CPU or cache models in RAM or whatever. And since I can't stuff more than 32GB RAM in this old clanker, I went and updated the rest.

So here is what I will have now: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TKX7fd. Anything particularly retarded I have done? Yes, could've gone with more RAM, but not at those prices.

>>107359789
>That shitty 8 core CPU lags in WINDOWS
Does it? I never noticed any lag compared to my 13900k system.

>>107359903
At least both items are still in stock
Once they're gone because of supply issues you'll be regretting not buying any of them while they were readily available

Is a used RTX 4090 really worth the price of 3-4 4080's/5070 Ti's?

>>107359903
i never considered buying it because it's a fundamentally flawed piece of hardware drawing an unsafe amount of current through a connector to run.

5080 pretty much draws as much as im comfortable seeing 12vhpwr pull.

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>>107359904
Strix-E is 520 here
Nova is 390
X870E Tohamawk 370
Taichi Lite 460 and basic Taichi is 550
I think Nova is slightly better than Tomahawk and Strix-E is the best of them all. I would get Nova prob but i'm so afraid of ASRock bios killnig my CPU.

>>107359961
Lol no
They're priced high because of their ability to support up to 48gb vram for AI slop

Considering this for a build and flip deal. I have the ram and NVMe already and have a line on a cheaper CPU, so actual cost- about $1400 with cable extensions and stuff.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rZRtwY

I have a similar system ready to go and it's solid. This will have more storage and better ram. I'm thinking I can make a reasonable profit, just from the ram and storage alone.

Thoughts?

>Have a rx 6400 low profile
>bought a new larger case and an rx 6600
>performance should double over the lp card

yay

>>107359964
Pussies smell so gross, they probably taste even worse.

>>107359986
They shouldn't smell, you've only been around gross women that don't wash it.

What kind of questions should I ask when buying used GPUs?

>>107359964
Get the Tomahawk. Consider dropping down to a B850 board if you don't need the features of the X870E.

>>107359997
Women are retarded and think their vagina is "self-cleaning" or some bullshit like that.

>>107359963
It's dumb cuz it'd have been pretty safe if they came with two of those connectors as proven by the matrix 5090 which runs the 12vhpwr at only 400W while using the GC-HPWR simultaneously.
Heck, Gigabytes 5090 boards physically have a second connector slot on board that's not installed because Nvidia probably didn't allow aibs to install two 12vhpwrs (with the minor exception of 5090D hof XOC edition had two but they were very low volume limited editions and later 5090D hofs only had 1 of those installed)

>>107359986
It's like a woman's house. When it's new, everything looks fresh. The lawn and the bushes are neatly trimmed, open the front door and everything is fresh and has a clean smell. Go around back and it's still all tidy and clean.

She gets older and the lawn and bushes are neglected and unkempt. Open the front door and there's a smell. God forbid you go out back because it's dirty with piles of garbage.

>>107360008
I need X870E features and willing to do 500 for it, but i'm thinking which is worth it. Guessing Tomahawk winning i just need to think if i wanna pay extra for Strix-E.

>>107359950
9800x3d is one of the fastest cpus on the planet but its possible to get lemons as in their imc is unstable and you get the infamous "amdip" when running oc'd ram.

>>107359964
white hapa factory

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>>107359945
valuing looking at the market non stop or just earning more money, some times it's just a waste of time
larger waste of time I'm not even decided if I should buy
now that the apocalypse has started I am thinking I should have
but we have survived more cope periods, the 6090 build will be even better anyway r-right

>>107359952
nah I am too poor, it was extremely hard to justify before on the edge, now we are getting even further away, stop making more and more sense
plus mental hang ups on price history makes me unable to buy things at a higher cost, if they never dipped It would have not been normalized showing they can go lower
now you will always feel like you got scammed

>>107359963
everyone has their own personal cope methodologies...
BUT running a lower tier card makes sense in some regards but still
idk
will the 6090 draw less considering node shrink? do they fix connector? do they double down? the 7090 will be a housefire again I guess?
time will tell

>>107349575
It turned out to be a faulty connection between RAM and motherboard. When I jammed it in real hard the problem was fixed. Thanks for help regardless.

>>107360026
>X870E
You can get good X870E boards for $250, why are you paying $500?

>>107360002
Has it been taken apart and repasted? Does it come with the original packaging? Do you still have the receipt? Has it been overclocked? Is it from a smoker household? Has it been mined with?

>>107360043
X870E Aorus Elite or Tomahawk. Should i gamble with ASrock Nova?

>>107360038
I hope they pull off another 4090 with the 6090. Near double the performance of the previous 90 and no more than 400W

>>107360061
Asrock is still burning up CPUs.

>>107360061
>X870E Aorus Elite
Which country are you in? The X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7 is $250 in the US. Don't go with Asrock.

What's the max I should pay for a 4080 or 5070 Ti?

>>107360002
ask them to run superposition 1080p extreme. if they cant its either defective or fake.

>>107360073
during heat waves in a small room my old 300w or whatever desktop made it unbearable I was dying
can not imagine 600w gpu+300w cpu in same instance in contained room even with a window
that would be like running a server farm and dying from heat exhaustion
large room + ac
(as a eurocuck)

>>107360088
$800

>>107359879
thanks

>>107360073
>>107360097
they're gonna have to put an artificial power limit on them just to not cook the nvme underneath

>>107359978
6600 is still an amazing card, enjoy

>>107360082
>>107360077
Aorus Elite would be 70 buck cheaper than Tomahawk.

>>107360088
no more than a 9070xt and the cheapest right now is $579.

>>107360140
Fake

>>107360166
https://www.microcenter.com/product/689903/powercolor-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-reaper-triple-fan-16gb-gddr6-pcie-50-graphics-card

>>107358476
I'm trying to upgrade my RAM one last time just in time for DDR4 to get retired and the prices to spike into the stratosphere. My mobo manufacturer's website has a blatant typo for one specific RAM kit variant. This RAM kit is the only variant available on amazon. Do I trust that it was a typo? Do I seriously blow 600 dollars on RAM?

just your bihourly reminder that waitfags have been GAPED + RAPED

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Leakers just said that DXR 1.2 and Shader Model 6.9 are ready, new SDK is coming out soon as should nvidia driver branch 590, expect some big announcements between this week until 14th december depending on what the fuck do AMD announces on the 10th for redstone. I expect a lot of radeon copers to start having buying regret though

Wanted to buy a inno3d 5070 Ti for 780€, but I read it has loud fans, now a black friday offer for the Gigabyte Windforce one popped up (799 euro), should I get it?

>>107360218
they can subscribe to an AI chatbot service in lieu of playing video games

>>107360230
Get the Inno3D and undervolt it.

very tempted to replace my 3090 with a 5090 just in case the prices double by the end of the month

>>107360244
That won't fix the issue of the fans running at 1400rpm at 30% minimum. Everyone on the internet says it's really noticeable noise.

What the fuck is the difference between these two PSUs?

https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-RM850x-Ready-Modular-Supply/dp/B0FLFGG1CC

https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-RM850x-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/B0DJ1JL3MK

They look exactly the same why is one $15 cheaper

>>107360286
low noise

>>107360308
They both have the same picture that says 140mm low-Nosie fan though

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>>107360286
Just get the cheaper one and stop worrying.
As explained before, the hardware is the same; the NA/AM might include an additional power plug for Central/South American countries.
This is the Amazon product section to read when you want to compare the differences.

>>107360230
Nevermind I missed the offer
Fuck this shit

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optiscaler is like putting on sharingan. you see everything clearly now.

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-5500-amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt-4gb-16gb-memory-1tb-pcie-4-0-ssd-black/J3L7GQWGC6/sku/6617073

Should I?

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>get ghosted by a 4080 seller because he decided to ask me before answering any of my questions whether or not in person pickup or package delivery and i said i was going to ask whether delivery was possible, replied saying i require too much even though I hadn't said I can't pick up in person
FFS
This is why I hate buying used

QUICK BEFORE THE JEWISH TRICKERY HITS MY SHITHOLE COUNTRY

64GB (2x32 4800mhz) vs 48GB (2x24 6000mhz) vs 96GB (4x24 6400mhz)?

>>107358476
so, realistically speaking, how bad would it be if i purchase ddr4 ram now and wait for ddr6 to drop, allowing ddr5 prices to drop back down?

I needa get an older relative a pc
they mainly watch videos and check emails and whatnot
they don't want to spend a lot on it but I'm not sure how low I should go with the pc specs for them.

I'm guessing I just get some recent cpu with integrated graphics and skip a gpu?
I hear ram prices are fucked right now so I guess stick to DDR4?

>>107360511
2x24 6000mhz 48gb is what you should get. Getting more than 2 sticks to run is ass.

my monitor turns black for a second when i turn off the lights using the electric switch that the socket that the electrical extender power cord is connected to.
socket+switch -> extender -> PC + monitor
when i switch off the loghts with switch, the monitor turns black for a second.
i read online that cheap HDMI cables do this so i bought an expensive display port -> hdmi cable but i still have the same issue.

>>107360182
>microcenter
Fuck off

>>107360548
Get that person a discounted prebuilt PC or laptop.

>>107360467
>Should I?

Decent price, but a 4gb GPU won't do much on games newer than 10 years old.

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>see ssd on black friday sale for £60 yesterday
>eh I'll get it tomorrow
>see price today: £85
>FUCK
>okay, there was still that 2TB on sale for £112 yesterday I'll get that
>go to website: sold out
>FUCK
>wait another store also had it for like £112 I'm sure
>go to its website: it's £150 now and sold out
>FUCK
>panic pcpartpicker same model 2tb drive
>see 1 store still has it in stock for £114 the rest are all around £150
>buy it ASAP

Fuck me I'm done. Just 1 day of waitfagging almost screwed me

>>107360562
>4 sticks is bad
Could you explain your bullshit
Otherwise why do motherboards hace 4 slota

>>107359797
how much did it cost?
the 8gb version is 415$ in my thirdie shithole

>>107360605
AMD's memory controller is ass and cannot run 4 sticks at stable speeds without them being slow as shit

>DDR4 memory is miles cheaper
How bad of a mistake would be to make a DDR4 build now?
If I wanted to upgrade I could just sell the mobo and ram later down the line when its cheaper.

>>107360613
NTA
Does that matter for AM4 vs AM5?

>>107360622
If you're going for an X3D chip, you'll lose any savings from going DDR4.

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>>107360605
>>Otherwise why do motherboards hace 4 slota

Those slots are not for ram silly
those are extra slots are for fake ram kits that light up pretty

>>107360613
So how would 4 sticks at 6400mhz compare to 2 sticks at 4800mhz?

>>107360636
Might go for the i5-14600k

>>107360586
best buy should be able to pricematch.

>>107360622
14600K + MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 = $330
(i'm gonna keep shilling the 14600K and you can't stop me)
>>107360634
4 sticks is fine on AM4
>>107360640
2 sticks at 6400 is faster

>>107360622
>>DDR4 memory is miles cheaper
Hey, how do I get your time machine?

>>107360052
>yap yap yap
"too long didn't read all that nerd >>107360092shit, you buying or not"
Is the response your average lazy bum will give to that kind of KGB interrogation. You expose yourself as a nosy autist. Sellers will go out of your way to ignore you.

>>107360649
>Ask (X) question
>Answers (Y)
I hate this place.

>>107360660
Your question was wrong

>>107360640
>>107360649
>>107360660
i misread your post
but you're misunderstanding the issue
4 sticks at 6400 probably won't work

>>107360588
that would probably save some trouble.
I guess I'll just dig around amazon, newegg, or best buy or something for prebuilts.

i boughted the pc i'll be playing gta6 on

>>107360193
No seriously, the only issue is that the memory kit is a different color from the ones listed on the mobo's website. Am I overthinking it right now? Am I getting chills at the thought of paying so much for DDR4 or that this might be the cheapest I can get it and the last time I can buy it new?

>>107360639
You know, I wonder why they haven't made ram with an LCD style number display. Four of those is enough to display a readable 2 digit, maybe 3 digit if the software handles the split.

>>107360600
I say this time and time again, storage is something you shouldn’t waitfag on.
Normies also want to upgrade their storage, it’s not just a gamer or even a DIY builder thing.

>>107360622
At this point, if you can get a good deal on DDR4, it's a valid option. My 2nd PC has a 5700x3d, 32gb od DDR4 3200, and my old 3080 ti. It's rock solid and is perfectly fine for 1440p.

Look for any port in a storm.

>>107360679
the QVL is irrelevant but you also shouldn't pay $600 for DDR4
or DDR5, really
or DDR6 or DDR7 or DDR8
just buy some used sticks

>>107360677
So... a PS5? No PC release scheduled.

>>107360677
Maybe on all low settings, GTA VI isn't coming to PC until 2028 at the earliest, I'm guess it will be 2029.

>>107360703
T-there's nothing used either...

I need a 2 or 4TB nvme ssd, should I get one today or wait until Cyber Monday? Are there even any good deals left for these now? Are brands like "KingSpec" actually decent or shit? On a budget so trying to get the cheapest one possible.

>>107360708
Shit that probably explains why Sony had all that ram in stock. They were expecting GTA6 this year too and probably had shittons of PS5s ready to move for it. No wonder they're all on $100 discounts now they need to clear the stock out again.

>>107360729
Buy a month ago. Barring that, buy now. Inventory will deplete fast. IF it's not already gone.

>>107360729
All the good deals popped up and ended yesterday. I don't know why.

>>107360729
see >>107360600
wait if you dare
maybe 4TB ones will be safer but 1tb and 2tb are going fast I speak from horrible experience

>>107360721
there should be
i searched on ebay for 3 seconds and found a 2x16 ballistix 3200C16 kit for $120 with free international shipping
(but you have to watch out for fakes of course)

>>107360739
the other guy's right normies buy storage too. People use these drives for PS5s laptops everything they go quick

>>107360756
Naw we're talking about 32*4 3600C18 kits

>>107360770
just combine two kits
and overclock
you can't use "plug and play" as an excuse for paying $600 for DDR4

>>107360779
>just combine two kits
I'd still be paying 600 because 64 gb is roughly 300 these days and the availability of 32 gb ram sticks is grim in general

I'm thinking of making a SFF media storage PC with an Ivy Bridge CPU. Besides eBay, are there any reputable sites for used parts?

>>107360813
just buy it then, if you need someone else to tell you it's a good idea
idk i don't need that much memory

>>107360834
I hoard tabs like crazy and routinely max out 64 gbs
Speaking of which thanks, I saw there was a used version for 300 on eBay :)
muh rgb won't get much use, sadly, missed my chance a year ago

>>107360876
of 128, that is

>>107360505
Saying you want it delivered is code for "I'm a Russian or Indian scammer."
I would have ghosted you too

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Is this any good?

>>107360889
Wtf are you talking about? Ah yes, how dare I ask if I can pay for a courier to deliver the item in question that's hours away by a car I don't have.

so if i buy a non-x3d cpu and ddr4 ram now (still relatively cheap here), and once zen6 drops i upgrade the cpu, what are the chances that ddr5 ram prices will have come down by then?

>>107360889
NTA but where I’m from the seller insisting on personal pickup means "I’m gonna kidnap you and sell your organs".

>>107360941
very unlikely, ram is the next bitcoin

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Is about $76 USD for 16GB of DDR5 a good price or is this the new inflated prices?

>>107360940
Go use ebay or find people with the delivery option explicitly flagged you mongrel, you can't have my gpu ivan.
>>107360941
High, ddr5 is never hitting the lows ever again though.

>>107360969
Why the fuck would you ever want 16gb

>>107360973
>Go use ebay
We don't do that in Germany.

>>107360979
It's what I have now, works fine and those are 1x16 so I can just get another one if I need to.

>>107360973
The buyer is literally the one taking the risk by paying first for delivery. How does this make sense regardless of your country?

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>5950x
>3060ti
>64GB

Looking for 32 inch monitor recommendations. I mainly play cs2 and fps games, I recall anons here were very keen on upgrading monitors before GPUs, any suggestions /g/bros?

>>107360969
>$76 USD 1 stick 16GB ddr5
It's the new inflated price 32GB matched kits used to cost that much

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That's it, I boughtened
Was it a mistake?

>>107361022
thanks

>>107355697
>>return fee
>what third world shithole do you live in that such a thing would even exist
Europanistan
Return shipping

If I'm at 1080p should I bother getting a 9070xt or just do a 9060xt?

>>107358506
>24GB VRAM for 5070 TI
>18GB VRAM for 5070 Super
That ain't happening anymore I fear

>as i was browsing this thread a seller run out of stock for the 2x16gb 6000 cl30 ram sticks for under 400
>now next cheapest seller is amazon at 440

should i buy from a guy that is 2 hours away but sells the kit for 300?
i despise buying from scalpers
when will this nightmare end

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Finally settled for my X870E

Winner was Strix-E

Would have gone ASrock for Taichi if not for Murderboards

>>107361201
Gonna get worse because it'll reach a point where the stores have no stock and the scalpers have all of it. Some places aren't even selling ram separately any more

are intel 13 and 14 gen cpus safe now?
I remember hearing they slowly broke down before.

How many of you have an OLED just for gaming?
I'm afraid of burn in because I also do normal things in my computer in addition to gaming, and I don't have desk space for two monitors

https://www.amazon.com/3840x2160-DisplayPort-100x100mm-Compatible-Adjustable/dp/B0FB7QRCS8
Is this worth buying if I'm just gonna use it as a secondary web browsing montior?

>>107361262
They are safe if you update bios to current version.
If they are used on earlier bios versions they are prone to have permanent damage, I would not buy them used.

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Do i go 32GB or 64GB RAM?
Do i go 6000hertz or 8000hertz RAM? t. >>107361222

>>107361201
Yeah the guy on ebay I found had one stock left and I instantly FOMO'd in

>>107361363
Do you genuinely see yourself needing 64gb in the next 2/3 years?
8000mhz is probably a waste on am5

>>107361426
MH:Wilds is good example of RAM hog game. Like it has 32GB RAM for Ultra but it seems liek it still not enough. Hard to say. Also what about 32GB-8000 CL38? Or 6000 CL30?

>>107361275
>I'm afraid of burn in
Stick with IPS/LCD if you're worried and don't use it in a dark room; it's that simple.
US pricing for QD-OLED monitors isn't that bad to try one out for 5~7 years ($380 1440p, $650/750 32" 4K).

>>107361194
9060 XT 16gb will crush 1080p

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>>107359514
testmem5 1:30:00 pass
cpu + ram occt 1:00:00 pass
occt memory 1:00:00 pass
I'll save the settings in the bios now and I'm basically done
I could try 1.13 vsoc 3800mhz or tcl 16 or trcdrd 21 or trp 19 but I'm spent, maybe in the future I'll try again

>>107358689
It's a 3rd gen WOLED. 4th gen 1440p WOLED monitors are already available. Not available here. +400€ price tag on preorders. I would have to wait to get one so why would I get one when I can wait to get a 4th gen?

>>107361275
People exaggerate how good oled is while ignoring the faults so if you're genuinely worried about burn in and can't get a secondary/work screen just don't use it.

>>107361363
If you have a 9800x3d and are willing to tinker with it, 8000mhz running in 2:1 mode would be probably be better in gaming. Anything better than that is not guaranteed. Otherwise just get cl30/6000 or cl32/6400.

>>107361530
I figured but I also buy graphics cards like once a decade so I was thinking maybe it'd be worth futureproofing to an extent.

>>107361262
Yeah, as mentioned, update the bios to the latest patch and you're good. I recently did a 14600K build and am about to do another. Excellent mixed use CPU and the mobos are solid and inexpensive.

>>107361561
With GDDR memory about to be the next hyper-inflation item, and both AMD and Nvidia indicating they're going to slow or stop lower to mid end cards, I would buy now.

>>107358599
can you even buy this?

>>107361457
Better idea for you : Forget the better ram, get a 9950x3d instead

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>>107358746
are you some kind of poor?

>>107359948
Nothing is all that retarded, I guess. Does it work fine for what you need?

>>107360609
346 euros. 3 fan model as well, 2 fans are even cheaper but not by a lot

>>107361531
FYI, don't use OCCT & HWInfo at the same time. It's adding unnecessary load on the CPU.
OCCT has a built-in HWInfo monitoring license.