Cleaning up edition >UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helpedGuide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207/217, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUBudget: 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X, 14400FGaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X, 14600KWorkstation: 9950X3D, 9950X, 9900X, 265K>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Lian Li GA II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RSDual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.https://mobomaps.com/>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x64GB (high-end)Avoid non binary ram (24/48gb sticks). It's a scam! Try to install 2 sticks with maximum memory you need, go for 4 sticks only if you have to.>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used cardMidrange: 9060 XT 16GB, 5060 TI 16GB, 5070High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 TiPremium: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz IPS, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K:KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Prev: >>107549671
pissi cuckitini
Ah yes another split
>>107554927This one isn't malicious, OP didn't know someone else already made the next thread.
Bumperino
Why are HDDs becoming more expensive now too? Are data centers also hoarding them?
>>107554729RAM is fucked
KILL ALL AIBS WHO PUT ANGLED SATA/USB HEADERS ON THEIR MOTHERBOARDSKILL ALL AIBS WHO MADE GPUS 36CM LONG AND 3 SLOTS THICK
just received my RMA after requesting one due to my motherboard frying ALL 4 sticks of RAM post-BIOS updateno invoices, no packaging, not even US-based and yet they honored their limited lifetime warranty within 24 hourshuge up for Patriot, they got a lifetime customer now
How do I tell if a big GPU has an acceptable amount of sag? I have a free standing support with a short arm, which seems to be the perfect type since I have 3 floor fans and no space to mount the support directly underneath, but it is still not ideal. It is being held up by the motherboard side. There seems to be a very small perceptible sag on the outermost corner but it is pure eyeballing. Is that the "safe" corner to sag on or should I crank up that stand a little harder to try to pull that corner up?
>>107557640Never crank up the stand. Never pull the corner up. It's as bad as sag, sometimes even worse.Rotate the case so GPU is vertical and adjust the stand so there is neither gap nor pressure on GPU.
>>107557605Patriot is Trump's ram choice
When is Lisa Su going to fix Adrenaline?
>>107557605well, plus one for you, plus one for Patriot>and please do tell us which shitty fucking motherboard vendor gave you a BIOS update that fuxored your RAM?
Hope you all built your PC early this year already
>>107557640zero is an acceptable amount, the GPU should be perpendicular and parallel with the slot as it's chinkslave engineer intendeddo not listen to this >>107557722 idiot
>>107558323my illegal goods just arrived
>>107558337you'll never get laid showing that one off
>>107558323I boughted 3 weeks ago but Amazon hasn't shipped it :(
>>107558351my disqualification from wizardhood last year says otherwise
>>107558323Several years ago, even.
how should I go about getting all my old PCs software and files onto my new PC? do I just need to reinstall programs one by one and change any configs, get addons/plugins, etc matched and transfer over any files? is there any easier way ?
>>107558404you can clone the drive but then you'll be stuck in driver hell
>>107558373congrations, you done it>as a very old person i will dispense unsolicited advice to any an all of my beloved /pcbg/ on the topic>do not marry the wrong person even if it guarantees quality snu-snu>it will lead to much misery and quite possibly no /pcbg/ at allthank you for attending my TED talk
>>107558429yeah id like to avoid cloning if possible
>>107558404windows this is usually do-able if the old install isn't too old or too weird. it's always better to clone the disk than to risk trashing your existing data, there are free tools and all for it but IDK which is best (i use paid software for this), surely some anons will tell us.>>107558429unless you learn how to inject Windows drivers using DISM, which you can do to your existing install when it's running before you clone or offline to the cloned disk. if the install is really old though I prefer doing a clean install and debloat and all that crap.>doing it to the running system is easier before cloning and if you're batshit crazy you can just swap the drive over instead of cloning>disable BitLocker first (decrypt) then re-encrypt on the new system
>>107558503>and if you're batshit crazy you can just swap the drive over instead of cloningThat's what we just did at my workplace a few months ago, I got upgraded from an old piece of shit laptop with 4GB RAM to an old bastard laptop with 6GB RAM (slightly more usable) by just swapping the SSD from one to the other.Interestingly everything just fucked worked? Device manager shows a few devices as unknown, but everything I've tried works just fine. Only the bluetooth doesn't but that was a known issue with the laptop, so I brought my own usb bt adapter (tp link of course).I guess the dedicated GPU doesn't show up, but I don't need one for SSHing into Linux servers and SBC's and using CLI/TUI utilities on them.
>install riser and ssd yesterday>back paindid not realize whole rig was this heavy.
>>107558293>mx and duronaut are badbro what do you want him to use then? lm?
>>107558351Not now, but in six months he will be rolling in gold diggers.
>>107558534Why is it so heavy? I swear my brand new PC with modern case (glass panes) and components (850W PSU, dual tower cooler) was nowhere near this heavy.
>>107558534you need to get some real exercise, anon, take it from the old guy, if your back is weak when you are young you will suffer when you get older>pic related is around 31kg, was fun getting it in there because it is actually about 2mm to large to fit over the padding on the top and bottom of the arm>cannot wait for all my parts to get in so i can retire the old bastard
Did I do a good job?
>>107558538methink you quote the wrong anon, i told 3090anon to use MX-5 because it will do the job, be easy to install, last for years, and be easy to service should the need arise. the other anon started shilling dur-my-nuts because it's the only thing he's used and therefore must be the best thing evar.also another anon reminded 3090anon to replace his pads which is a top kek suggestion.
>>107558544best.possible.outcome
>>107558549>PSU 3.7>GPU 2.8>MOBO 1.4>AIO 1.9>SSD HDD Fans etcit added up.I think I also got inflammatory wrist too. Damn>>107558568Yeah I was on gym weekly but missed it for 3 months now.
>>107558587ye
>>107558616I forgot pic
>>107558587that depends. are you >>107558373? in which case, yes, certainly.
>>107558605>got inflammatory wristyeah we all know that wasn't from any /pcbg/ you've been doing, anon.
>>107558635
>>107558623no. you have failed horribly at photography.
>>107558646better?
This is getting out of hand this is a budget ssd I paid £105 (still overpriced) a couple weeks ago for this same shitHoly fuck it's £240 on Amazon now It really might be over for this general the prices are not worth the cost they are adding £500 minimum to basically every DIY build like this.
>>107558677just buy prebuilts, take the ssd, replace with hdd and sell them, will probably even make a profit
>>107558669yes. and yes it looks good, what did you use to spread it?>i use a clean single-edge razor blade or one of those fake plastic credit cards that show up in the mail
>adata su800 2tb out of stock everywhereWhy the fuck did I check to see if my dram sata ssds I regularly bought in years past are still on sale1tb is almost $150 now
>>107557605I got successful a RMA done from Acer when a power surge fried a monitor (water got into a cracked plug socket elsewhere in the room and it was on the same circuit). Was convinced they wouldn't honour it as it should have been clear it was a power surge to blame.
>>107558677>might be over fordoubt>the clientele may get thinned out, the /poors/, as always, are the ones who suffer
>>107558714I'm the one who was asking about the heat gun, put a line then heated it and just used my guitar pick
did i fuck up getting a 24" 2k monitor? i really like it, but a lot of stuff looks awful at 125% scaling and too tiny at 100%
>>107558677At the moment, prebuilts are the only option, you'll save £500+. Find someone with a costco account and get one of their prebuilts.
>>107558740shoulda gone 27
>>10755874027" is the sweetspot for 2K for a desk monitor.
>>107558740you fell for the ppi fags' propaganda and have to live with windows scaling...
I really don't understand why people think applying PTM is hard. This was far easier than any paste I've ever used.And yes I know it's not a real blue honeywell. Still works better than most pastes.
>>107558762>I know it's not a real blue honeywellqrd
>>107558762>ptm is easy to apply because I used a knockoff ptm ????
>no more 1TB nvme's around 50-60 euroit's so fucking over... we really will own nothing and be happy, at this point it might be cheaper to just get a cloud storage subscription than buy more drives
>>107558736whatever works to get a nice thin mostly-even coat, it's overkill because you can just put a blob or x or dots and the heatsink will smoosh it all into place>but the true patrician will do as you have, anon, top kek
>>107558591Not him but duronaght work well. The last tube of mx6 i used may have been old and didn't spread well. Other than that Noctua is decent.
>>107558768Real PTM7950 is bluish, chinks use blue film to hide gray knock-offs.>United State Of America>>107558777I've used both as well as other brands and there is no difference in application method.
>>107558804>mx6i had the same experience with MX6 that was fresh, was super sticky and blobby. i think it's just how it is.
>>107558358i went to microcenter on black friday and walked out with a 9100 pro 8tb for 750 in about half an hour op >>107558404i just used rsync op, the only thing i had to change was the fstab and a couple grub files on /boot
>>107558808Isn't it dangerous to use a fake one?
Price of shitty sd cards has increased. WTF?
>>10755874027" is for 1440p.But I'm looking at 27" for 4K myself even though it might be a huge mistake
>>107557367For storage and archiving, yes.
>>107558901>I'm looking at 27" for 4K myselfEnjoy fucking your eyes.
>>107558893Those use NAND too
>>107558323sure did anon, im very satisfied, i just hope none of my drives die.
>>107558915but the goal is to unfuck themI was told they have the best text clarity over everything else
>>107558323Micron also ended consumer SSD though, why are they only focusing on the ram bit Crucial made shittons of SSDs
>>107558901>>107558915ja what anon said, 32" for 4k is the way, else you will deal with scaling and it's issues
>>107558934Clarity means nothing, the text will be too small on the screen and it will be uncomfortable to read without scaling. If you genuinely want to unfuck myopia research into "reduced lens therapy".
4K laptops seem to deal with scaling okayish, a 27" 4K should be a lot better right? All the brands are shilling those more now.
is Gigabyte X870E Aorus Master X3D Ice a good motherboard?
>>107558993why would anyone get a 27" 4k when they can get 32"
>>107558997we got X3D motherboards now?
>>107559000It might be cheaper, and it has better ppi so it looks better.
>>107559007> it has better ppi so it looks better.theres massive diminishing returns there that you get to apple ppi schizo territory
>>107558997>https://x.com/unikoshardware/status/1995741002095804811I don't like that they put an LCD screen on it but other than that, there's nothing glaringly bad on the spec sheet, and they're supposedly releasing a redesigned bios interface soon that's actually pretty nice
>>107558901You can scale it to 150%, which is what I'm doing, but monies are better spent at higher refresh rate IMO.
>>107558997In an absolute sense yes but probably not from a value point of view.It has great VRM, postcode, 8-layer pcb, 5g + 10g ethernet, on-board power and reset buttons (although they are on the rear panel, I would prefer them somewhere near the postcode).
>>107558997Sure, it's good. Much better than non-X3D Master, which was somewhat disappointing for 2nd highest tier motherboard.>>107559002Yes, it's a Gigabyte refresh of their x870e line. They are quite good, they copied the option to disable USB4 for m2 lanes from MSI, so they don't have lane sharing with GPU. Other than that they have some special boosting mode for X3D CPUs, redone BIOS and some other things. They are probably best mobos for AM5 alongside MSI MAX line currently.
This guy >>107556224 needs to change his GPU AIO's radiator orientation, or the pump's going to deteriorate faster.Always someone with more money than sense who buys these components.
>>107559079Kek finally a legit call out for destructive aio orientationAnd wth this gives Asus GPU buyers a bad name
I bought a deepcool case like pic and the power button feels like ass. Is there a way to replace it for a better one? Is there even a store that sells power buttons or something?
>>107558993>4K laptops seem to deali have a 4k OLED HP Spectre X360 laptop (so, 13.5" screen) that Windows defaults to 300% scaling. i also have a 4k IPS Dell 32" that Windows defaults to 150% scaling.on the 32" at least i can still read apps that don't scale but it's not /comfy/ (i do wear glasses for reading).the 4k on the laptop is absolutely wasted money. Yes, it looks good, images look great, but for the stuff I use it for 90% of the time it's a waste (and OLED a battery hog). It is perfect for reviewing and retouching vacation photos while traveling because the color space and resolution is excellent for that but the native 4k is not needed on such a small screen for anything else and any tool i use that does not have scaling baked into it's gui (of which there are still plenty though it's getting better) will either be inscrutably small or look like disjointed shit.but this is all subjective - if your eyes like the way the PPI looks on a 27" for your use cases by all means enjoy one>we, however, reserve the right to scoff at your choices
>>107559024>more than 5 entries on screen at a timeASUS should take notes
>>107558503my old install of win10 is a dinosaur and has insane amounts of bloat and unorganized bullshit :(
>>107559218in that case a clean installation is the path to joyful enlightenment for you>plus you don't have to dick around with DISM to load a dozen things for a one-time-only migration.
>>107559198It also has the ability to save user xmp profiles to the SPD from that screenThat's the main reason I'm itching to get a gigabyte board, but too bad they put an LCD on the master that requires their bloatware to configure and that they got greedy and didn't put 10G networking on the Aorus Pro
This is why I save all my files into a NAS. I try to avoid installing anything and use portable versions instead. If I have to install something I save the installer to my NAS instead.Start doing this, you'll thank me later.
Guys my gf gave me 500 for christmas, what should I get?
>>107559301This D
>>107559057>>107559075is there something better in that price range? I despise the idea of onboard wifi
>>107559395just use ethernet
>>107559301you should buy her a $500 gift>should cover a single 8GB stick of RAM if you hurry up and buy it now
>>107559301A single stick of ddr4 memory
>>107559395Probably everything in that price range will have wifiyou can always disable in in bios, or just remove the card physically if you want to
do I just get a new one or is this salvageable?
>>107559467not an issue at all man just dust it out and replace any fans with broken bearings
>>107559467reminds me of my first prebuilt I ever bought. When I sent it back under warranty when the motherboard died the guy said he'd never seen as much dust on a computer as that before.
>>107559490>clean it up janny
>>107559395>something better in that price rangeI looked at the AM5 sheet and Master x3D is supposed to be 650$, perhaps MSI Ace MAX should be in that price range, maybe the new Colorful x870e VulcanAsus Hero is 50$ more expansive and I doubt it is betterGigabyte x870e Xtreme is 800$, but maybe if you can find cheaper it could be worth taking note of
>my PS/2 keyboard suddenly decides it just doesn't want to talk to my computer anymore the next time I hook it up to my systemfucking brilliant eh
>>107558171Is this post mustard gas? I honestly have a tough time trusting /g/ nowadays. The 2010s were dark times.
Can someone help me build a pc that will last at least 15 ish years?
>>107558304MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC which was IIRC their top-of-the-line B450, just checked the BIOS now and lo and fuckin behold
>>107559467i for one don't mind it at all but some folk might prefer if it was cleaned up a bit
>>107559589horey sheets
>>107559603apparently it now overvolts +0.07v no fucks given, my +12v readout is 14.9v too but I presume that's just a faulty sensor
>>107558143Never
>>107559637Sorry but I'm NTA but been out of the loop on PC building for a while. Voltage bad over 1.5v right?
>>107559395>I despise the idea of onboard wifiPretty much every board has built-in wifi now, except maybe some really cheap ones. You can just... not use it though. The Aorus Master X3D does have onboard wifi by the way. I'm actually not sure why you mentioned that.If you are a multimillionaire who just wants to buy the best stuff without thinking too much then the Aorus Master X3D is probably fine but if money actually means something to you, you might want to think about what you actually need from a motherboard.
>>107559660>DDR4 standard spec is 1.2v>XMP/EXPO is 1.35-1.4v>harder/quad-channel OC is 1.45-1.48v>1.5+v is no-go outside extreme situations
>>1075596601.5V is enough to fry any cpu on the market
So I have 4080 and 7800x3d with 32gb of t create RAM.Why are you keep talking about non binary RAM, like 48gb as an upgrade?
>>10755978048gb is more vram than 32gb and allows more local llms to run
Mom just paid off my credit cards debt, I'm free now
>>10755978048 gb is a scamhttps://youtu.be/a4PKeC02HnA
>>107559804but now your mom has debt
>>107559804Why do you have debt
>>107559824in usa probably because he paid rent within 15km of a city centerelsewhere its 90% gambling related
>>107559569>2010s were dark timeskek. did moot even have curlies yet in 2010?although we did end up talking about farts in the last thread the post is mine and the settings work in W10 and W11, the technical info is not mine, i gleaned this infos some years ago working at huge globohomo corp doing systems integration work, these settings were trickled down from server ops.you can google it all, it's out there.Windows defaults to generic low common denominator values for the L2/L3 caching, in the example I have large cache numbers because devbox is an old dual 18-core Xeon E5-2697 v4 box with fat L3 caches. The tweak to disable kernel paging is very much still valid but the system cache - i dunno, have not measured with modern m.2 NVME, will do that once I get all my parts (will be PCIe5 M.2 as opposed to my current PCIe 3 antiques). Was definitely relevant with SATA SSD devices.know that if you disable the pagefile completely (i do on my workstation with 128gb) you will only get a barebones kernel dump if you do manage to trigger a fault, so you get only basic infos for analysis.the recommended minimum RAM for doing the system cache and kernel paging tweaks is 2GB but if you are running with that little RAM you are on a headless Windows 2000 server and not doing very much with it.none of this will give huge gains in most scenarios if you actually have lots of RAM, it's for the tweaker/tuner who knows their use case and can measure for any improvement.>anyway it's easy enough to revert - you are making backup of the regkeys before you start fat-fingering them, right?
>>107559824Because I bought a burrito once
My tuf gaming b550m plus micro atx motherboard currently has a ryzen 5 3600 and I got a ryzen 9 5900xt to future proof it on the cpu side since I don't want to buy new mobo+ddr5 ram. Did I fuck up on my choice of cooler? I don't trust liquid cooling nor do I overclock. I just want an aircooler that will fit properly in my lian li case (don't know the model) and cool down the CPU properly.
>>107556230Did I fuck up lads? idkI guess I will double down on waitfagging coping now I will just be a laptop waitfagit's all over
>>107560036I think you have to adjust your pbo settings, the heatsink looks a little underwhelming for a 12 core
when will an actually good GPU that doesn't cost a liver drop again
>>10756006616 core 32 thread
I gotta replace these sata SSDs they are just too slow
decided to put up my old am4 rig for sale on facebook and idk if i actually wanna go thru with it... bulk of the money i earned from my first job went to the thing
see you boys in ddr6, it's over
>>107560036>outlet inside casebut why
>>107560069not soonNvidia is selling all their stuff to china again, and that means they use whatever tsmc capacity they get to make ai chips that sell for insanely high marginsdatacenters are limited by ram situation but they want to keep building ai servers for a while, nothing lasts forever but I dont see the signs that its about to end sooncheap gpus require excess (tsmc) chip production capacity so companies fill those slots with making gpus that dont cost a premium
>sees today's ssd pricesgoddammitI shoulda bought more drives a month ago
>>107560125it's a reflection kek that got me too
>>107560125nigga you blind or trolling?
>>107560129I guess I'll just die without ever being able to upgrade
>>107560145or just buy 5070, 5070 ti, 9070 xt now
>>107559893I remember fucking with those settings a decade ago. I'm asking because I have parts on the way for a new build. The new build will be 2x32 and I will also have a 2TB MLC SSD SATA that I do not raped by constant writes - will also have 2x 4TB NVME PciE4 for scratch. My old build had a 160GB MLC Intel that shows only 8% degradation despite being my main C for the last decade. I want to squeeze the life out of my SATA MLCs for the next 20 years while using NVME as my bitches if you get what I mean. Especially with the current NAND situation.Thanks anon, I appreciate your knowledge and help.
>>107560152Too poor for that
>>107560162well, scour used gpu retailers for 3080 minimum, pref 4070+ type gpus
>>107560162klarnapoverty is not an excuse any morenobody buys anything outright with all these 0% interest deals on now if anything it'll save you money
>>107558795Check Acer predator, last time I bought it was 89.99 on Amazon. Gen 4, 7000 mo/s
>>107560135>Buy motherboard with 4 m.2 slots>SSDs double in priceOh well.
I should have spent $25-30 more and gotten that 32GB DDR4 kit instead of cheaping out on the 16GB one last year
>>107560069In two weeks tm (no really maybe in 2028/2029)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cqtCspR8H8Masturb8The mobo is for future proofing and since I bought the RAM first before current prices + giving me 3 NVME slots before the 4th (_2) reduces my GPU to x8 (avoiding). I don't game nearly as much as I used to so I thought this would give me a quiet and flexible build for the next 8 years. That and my current case has no CPU back plate access so I can finally not have to fuck with removing the entire mobo anymore too potentially.
>>107560233I feel you, I saved $20 by getting a B450 and ended up buying a B550 board later
>>107560256why are you pay 300% extra for features you dont need>flexibilitymeans nothing
>>107560256>$5000 PC>5070TiOk, this goes to my kek folder.
Just saw the new Kenginton expert trackball is out. Looks like an actual upgrade instead of going backwards like products tend to do. I'm glad they didn't go with the slim design. The wireless Kenginton expert trackball (not slim) is fucking great.also I've been thinking of trying out the Magic Trackpad on windows? anyone know how well it works?
>>107560256>$5k build with a midrange 1080p video cardWhat do you plan to use it for?
I think I'm just gonna do what a lot of anons do and just buy a PC piece by piece everytime there's a very good deal
>>107560155>have parts on the way for a new buildkek, ditto>will be 2x32ditto again>2TB MLC SSD SATA>2x 4TB NVME PciE4 for scratchwot? you would use the slower drive for the OS?>anon is quite possible slightly retarded>its all disposable tech as we are well aware>the speed of the M.2 NVMe will be something you can sense in daily driving>nevertheless the settings will minimize disk writes and do work on 64gb of RAM, i have tested this and plan to use them in my upcoming 64gb build with an 9950X3D
>>107560256This guy is trolling
>>107560222>have motherboard with 4 m.2 slots>fill them >buy more m.2 drives even though I can't use themBoughted 2 more 2TB drives today for $124 a piece. I'm beginning to think therapy should be the next on the buyboughted list.
>>107560332that was a good idea before the ramocalypseif you buy a mobo and cpu now and wait for cheap ram that pc will never turn on
>>107560411You should build yourself another PC then :^)The more storage you have the faster you run out of space, paradoxical but true.I also think any SSD under 4TB is a waste of slot.
>>107560412It's gonna be alright bro, something is gonna happen and suddenly ram will be cheap again for some magical reason, I just gotta believe
>paid $270 for 48GB 6000CL36 Did I fuck up /pcbg/? Gonna be used with a 7800X3D.
>>107558323AAAAAAAAAAA
>>107560461nah anon youve got more than the average 32gb on a CPU with cache that will make up for the slightly worse ram, you did good bud
>>107560461I've seen worse purchases; it's about $120~150 extra compared to the good old days (which won't come back).Not a complete disaster considering the overall build cost.
>>107560452>I also think any SSD under 4TB is a waste of slot.Agreed. Except Hynix never ended up making a 4TB version of the drive I wanted.Feels bad man.
>>107560452>I also think any SSD under 4TB is a waste of slot.It's fine to keep one or two low-capacity NVMe drives for the OS, especially if you're a memory overclocker who can end up corrupting the OS.
>>107558171>doesn't do anythingwhat even is the point?
>>107560256id get a time machine and get a single 9100 pro 8tb at 750 instead of 3 drives, get arctic fans instead of noctua, get a cheaper power supply i got a leadex iii 1300w or something for probably a third of the price of your psu and it will do what you need
What happened to the arc B580? I remember all the tech jewtubers were shilling it like crazy, but now no one ever talks about it
>>107560604Because people still prefer to buy NVIDIA or AMD cards if they can afford it.
>>107560555Sure but for that you can simply use SATA SSD for that.
Alr what sata drive should I get before they become unobtainium. I have 6 nvme drives already so no more room for more of those. But I do have 2 free sata ports in my mb (2 of those ports were taken by my 2 optical drives). So recommend me some model because in 4 years only new sata drives for sale will be some aliexpress drives.
>>107560632870 EVO or MX500.
>>107560604compelling budget card, but then you learn it needs ReBAR support and has higher CPU overhead than AMD/Nvidia cards, so it's bad at it's literal one niche - a drop-in upgrade to an older PCyou might want to use it to modernize an older PC with an i7-6700k and GTX 1070 or something, but it might perform worse than the 1070 with such an old CPU and no ReBAR support
What's the maximum you would spend for 32gb of ddr5 right now
>>107560367I have money that I'm not using because everything else is paid for at the moment.Half that shit is panic buying and not being able to stay on /g/ for hours a day to keep up with being a smart buyer.When I saw RAM go north of $500 I bought them and then worked backwards.Also I only need a 5070 Ti because I only have 1080p monitors, getting older and I only play various games.Also, with my storage setup (using 2x6TB WD Blacks for storage i.e. music and movies that will not be constantly moved or edited) will I be noticing that much of an apparent difference in OS between the NVME and MLC SATA? I focused on features reliability and getting 8 years or more out of this setup since I probably won't care about more grafrix. I cared more about noise since Im all messed up and I don't like the idea of AIO, the last one I had I had to replace due to pump failing and it scared the shit out of me when it hit max thermals one night. I like to set and forget.>>107560569Shift is one of the quietest on the market per charts, and other comparable stats to like the FSP Hydro 1000w. I paid extra for the side ports and Corsairs warranty -- they treated me well in the past for warranty.I don't care I overpaid $1k. I can always fix the GPU situation later if I change my mind and I'm getting old enough with fuck you money while having all my other shit paid off. If I'm not on 1440p it doesn't matter yet, maybe I'll revisit my GPU+monitors in 2 years once things calm down.In the meantime I gotta go be a normie more due to a recent injury and also other factors. Done because this post turned into a blog. Gotta get back to work too and call back some stupid clients.
>>107560713I got mine for 125€ but if I had none and I had to get some for my pc I dont even know how to do the calculation. maybe I would bite the bullet and spend 250€ because I literally cant see any positive signs rnits tragic for a lot of poors right now
>>107560713180€ more than that and ur cucked
>>107560648MX500 hasn't been sold for a while and 870 evo has been overpriced where I live. Man I'm kicking myself for not jumping to that 100€ unopened WD Red SA500 2tb I saw for sale late october.
>2000€ windforce 5090 (183€ below msrp)>99€ 6400c32 2x32 64gb ddr5>99€ 2tb 990 Pro>183€ 4tb kc3000>99€ something like 1000w msi pcie5 atx3.1 psu>99€ some bitchass case? >140-180€ some mobo on sale too?>70€ or something for a 360mm aio>430€ 9800x3d didn't buy the dip of anything, it's over
>>107560311>>107560386I also bought the RAM/SSDs at literally 1/2 or less the price a month ago.I'm lazy and never updated prices for that link. Im fairly sure it's 1K cheaper or more for everything after discounts using various vendors.
>>107560803That ram is very cheap, so is the gpu-
so the general consensus here is that prices are going to keep going up (gpu, ram, ssd) so I might as well bite the bullet now now because if I continue to wait, it will be a lot more painful?
>>107560933if you need a component the price wont go down next 6 months and the conclusion from that is pretty obvious
>>107560734>will I be noticing that much of an apparent difference in OS between the NVME and MLC SATANVME will whip the SATA drives ass every which way from Sunday for any sustained read or write operations so boot and shutdown will be faster, installing things will be faster, load times for /gaymes/ will be faster, "productivity" e.g. loading up your exquisitely detailed Excel fursuit collection tracking spreadsheet gets a boost - all of it.it's newer tech after all, designed to be the next thing after SATA bottlenecked SSDs.
I've been wanting the FLP01 for some time but I would have to trash my current case, replace the cpu fan, lose either my dvd drive or my card scanner drive and pay the 130€ fee which doesn't make it seem very worth itwhat do you think ?
>>107560963Prices already increases by $150 + since I bought the NVME a month ago.Should I quick grab a third NVME since my mobo can handle it? I can always use that SSD as the boot drive for a planned NAS in the future - where I will be taking my time instead of panic buying.
>>107560604Got one fore €215 on black friday. Works fine on Ubuntu. Don´t have high demands, came from a 1650super, so it's a nice upgrade for me. Plays Witcher 3 on ultra at 75fps.
>>107561083well, if you have the cash and it's "disposable" i say do it, you will see benefit.
>>107560678>6700kThat piece of shit would heavily bottleneck every modern card out there so this is a very bad example.
>>107561129Thanks. Realized I got a laptop I can upgrade with that SSD anyway.
>>107561144With 4c8t and DDR4, it's not actually that bad in theory. Seems like it would be usable with something like the B580 for 1440p60 gaming, if not for the aforementioned issues.Probably better paired with like an RTX 3060 12GB on Windows or an RX 7600 on Linux than ever bothering with Arc.
Any recommendations for a <$500 monitor (27", 1440p) suitable for both productivity and gaming (don't need a second screen for desktop applications just to avoid burn in) and that you preferably wouldn't have to go through months' worth of RMAs for to get a usable sample because it's going to be a christmas present? I'm aware I'm probably asking for the impossible here with how garbage monitor tech is but it's worth a shot
>>107558323>Hope you all built your PC early this year alreadyI built my PC in 2018 and I haven't felt a need to upgrade yet.
someone once said here to sell older builds at 30% off for a guaranteed sale yet i've been getting nothing but lowballers for the last 4 hours still
>>107561169When was the last time you used a skylake 4c cpu? Even a 3060 would be bottlenecked by it and you will have issues in many games, the 8 threads won't save it anymore.
I currently have 12gb of DDR3 RAM spread over 2 of 4 slots. Is there any particular reason I shouldn't grab 2 more of whatever sticks I already have installed and install them in the other 2 slots? Do they need to be the exact same thing or can they be any DDR3? I'm not looking to play cutting edge games, just maybe squeeze more performance out of what my old PC can already do.
>>107561192>Do they need to be the exact same thingye you'll crash otherwise, at least from my testing back when i still had my fm2+ board
>>107561192Just get 2 more whatever sticks and set them all to 1600 in the BIOS. Worked for me on an i5 4440 and B85 mobo.One stick is Hynix 1600, one is Kingston 1600, the other two are Samsung 1333, and all run just fine at 1600MT CL11. All I had to do was go to the BIOS in the overclocking tab and select 1600 from a dropdown list. No manual voltage/timing/multiplier tweaking requred.
What's the best 3.5" drives nowadays for just storage that isn't being written all the time? I.e. music, TV shows, etc.Last I bought 3.5 before COVID it was WD Blacks.
I call this The 35yo Speccyboomer Special
give me a "I want to buy a new pc for genning wan2.2. video, z-image and using llms because I'm a gooner so I know I need a 5090 but I also don't want to feel like a degenerate by blowing too much money on it"-build
>>107561230noctua seems to be doing a business strategy where they know the competition is offering way better value for money so they increased the prices even more to cash in on some loonies who buy their stuff on irrational basis
>>107561192this is 100% dependent on the motherboard, you have to try it. The best case scenario is that the board can run all of the RAM at the speed/timings of the slowest stick and be stable, the worst case is that it will crash/be unstable. The in-between state could be that it runs them all and is stable but does this at some weird low speed/timings.If you're worried it will corrupt your boot drive prep a memtest86 USB boot and make that your first boot after installing the RAM, you were going to test it anyway, right?>you *were* going to test it anyway, right, anon?
>>107561225WD Ultrastar - they are very expensive and loudWD Gold - they are expensive and loudSeagate Exos - they are expensive and loudToshiba MG - they are less expensive and very loudWD Red Pro - they are less expensive and not so loudRed Pro should be fine for 24/7 service with low writes for your needsWD Black is still around but is capped to 12 TB and are gaming focused, though many don't game on HDDs at all now. The other drives I listed I'm speaking from a 20TB+ perspective.
>>107561327Think maybe use 1x black 8tb for music / tv storage and use a 8tb WD red for backup mirror?I got a eSATA dock that lets me hook up drives externallyI know this isn't ideal but the NAS will be done later this year as I am bogged down with other things to do first around the home for time triage
>>107558534>using aislop instead of an actual scale>getting back pain form barely 30 poundsA pussy and a retard.>>107560678It's still a solid upgrade card. No shit a brand new card isn't going to work amazingly if the rest of the build is still ancient. Use your brain, man. No card is going to work well with Skylake besides ones released during and prior to the era of Skylake. Budget builds still exist without reusing decade old ewaste and pretending it's viable.>>107560604It's a good budget card that hovers relatively near MSRP, but it's still a dGPU brand that's in its infancy with some kinks to work out. It still hasn't had a B770/B780 big brother card released either. GPU news has been kind of dead for a long while anyway.
>>107561265>you were going to test it anyway, right?Yes, definitely.
I need your help /g/. I've been upgrading my computer and had to replace just about every single part. Now that everything is put together, none of the USB ports on the motherboard seems to be working. The lights on it glow and the CPU fans flow so there's clearly power running through it, do you guys think the mobo is defunct?I'm asking if there's literally anything I could do to fix this because I really don't want to go through the hassle of having to return it. The mobo is an Asus ROG STRIX B850-F if that helps.
>>107561359whatever's cheapest in the short term
>>107561055I personally have never put the same build in more than one case. if you were building a new setup Id say treat yourself to some retro fun. if you just really want it, could always replace the card reader with a USB one and go for it.
>>107561257they offer the best products in their respective segments and charge a premium for it, that's just standard business practicethey're not even that bad anyway, there's plenty of rgb trash that people still eat up at similar prices despite worse performance, acoustics, longevity, and customer support
>>107561610"best" doesnt actually mean a difference a human being can detect in regular use
>>107554729JFC guys i looked up prices recently its fucking jover. In 2024 i boughtI7 13700k for 340, its not 510I bought 32gb of dd5 7000mhz for 140, its 407Rip consumer PC market.
>>107561484i see. >very good then. do it and report your findings back to the class.
>>107561499power it off, remove power completely, unplug any USB stuff from the motherboard headers, check for bent pins on the USB-C and USB-3 headers >USB-C header, those little fuckers are a bitch if you so much as look at them funny.
>1pm mountain>thread slows to a crawlAll the shitposters and jealous fags are euros. Go figure.
>>107561697i'mma head in to Redmond to get some weed>all y'all keep the lights on for me
>>107561697I shitpost here during work hours (EU) to pass the time at my desk.
RAM and SSD prices will never go back to normal.Prices will eventually stop climbing but given that the prices for these things have jumped up so much and people bought it at those prices companies will think those prices are the norm. It's never going to go back down to $200-$300 for a 64GB RAM kit anymore, or a $120 for a 1TB NVMe.And when they eventually make something faster companies will think that since it's faster and newer it should be more expensive than the old one.PC building is honestly dead to the regular consumers. Best bet is to buy used in 2028.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/hkc-m10-ultra-announced-with-the-worlds-first-rgb-mini-led-backlight>4,788 independent light control zonesOh look some noname chink company went and put in rgb minileds in a monitor while tv makers are unironically selling tvs with the tech for >30k €almost like controlling few thousand light zones is kinda trivial for modern processors and doesnt cost a lot of money
>>107561533yeah I've been considering that, though having a permanent sd card reader is super comfymaybe I'll look into sleeper pc making if I find an appropriate case irl
>>107561821You can achieve better results by using an open source program and LED strips.
>>107561499RAM training can take quite a while on DDR5. So first, I'd try and go doing something else for 15 minutes or whatever while it's training. If that didn't help,> STRIX B850-FCheck the diagnostic Q-LEDs on the top right of the mobo. There's 4 of them. What colors are lit up, if any?
>>107560734a 1300w psu is running at 0db in your rig nigger lover
Prices will never go down. It would be the same as video cards. New normal.
are wireless mouses any good soon to be 2026
>>107561884They are good but pointless
>>107561884Never understood wireless mouse and keyboard. I'm already in front of my PC, with a ton of USB ports. Might as well plug them in and not deal with latency and battery.But yeah, they're good now. You can barely tell that wireless has latency and battery lasts quite a bit.
>>107561916Another happy customer
>>107561940I guess people praise ips for color accuracy but theres a lot of variable when it comes to source materialmaybe its better when you watch genuine hdr content on the ktc and have the hdr mode setup correctly in monitor and in windows and the program displaying the content
>>107561930The only real use case I've found for a wireless mouse is to have it on my bedside table so I can operate VLC/YouTube/etc. without getting out of bed.
>>107561878Like a half a century of RAM history disagrees. We've seen this before, quite a few times, most recently around 2018.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hVfPUTqZnRw
>>107561930i was thinking of getting one to pair with my laptop just so i can quickly put it wherever and not have to think about the cable. dunno if it's worth the cost increase.
>>107561884ones with low latency receivers are goodbluetooth is still shit
>>107561884I didn't want a wireless mouse but the options for mice with optical buttons and optical encoder are rather limited so I bought one that can be both wired and wireless. My plan was it to use it wired but after trying wireless I don't see a reason not to use it cause no cable drag is really comfortable. Wired with mouse bungee only when the battery runs out like every here and there.
>have 2FA on all my accounts so not a password breach>failing LG OLED TV gets picked up for "disposal" >few months later>someone purchased a movie from my "LG TV" w/ my Amazon accountnice, cool to see that they're selling that junk on the side like faggots
>memory """""""training"""""""what is actually happening here no not meme "training" why is amd taking 10 minutes to boot up and looking at ram like it doesn't know wtf it even is
>>107562059could be bug for some manufacturers for some bios versionI havent had issues with memory training on my gigabyte mobo
>>107561865English, speak it. Also, questionable literacy.
>>107562059idk lol
i just bought a samsung 990pro 2tb for 180euros in my shithole before it gets worse
how do computers even work at all
I'm trying to talk myself out of dropping $800 on a 5070ti.I have a 4070 I got for a good price two years ago, and it serves me fine for 1440p, but I'm planning on getting a 4kOLED within the next year. This would 100% just be a futureproof buy to avoid the GPU price hikes that are coming, and probably never going down after. Should I go for it, or just wait
>>107561899Wired mice are kinda awkward. Wouldn't use one again unless necessary. Wired keyboards are ok, I guess.
>>107562102if you dont find the process of selling the 4070 too troublesome maybe its fine
>>107561940There's usually a catch if the product price is too good to be true.And you'll always have plenty of retards who enable HDR all the time.
>>107562102Post your use case and what exactly you are upgrading for
>>107562096That drive was £120 here during black friday but amazon did some dirty trick saying they'd only ship it in february at the earliest. It costs £180 now and now they can ship it tomorrow.
>>107562120yeah, that another thing i don't know what i'd do with the current card.>>107562124i literally told you dumbfuck
>>107561989>>107561990>>107562112any recommendations for good wireless mice? might pick one up for the holiday season.
>>107562126i know, but here in spain other stores have it around 220 or 230, so 180 was a no brain for it for me and my budget
>>107562054Why would you ever hook a TV to the internet?
>>1075621354070s can play games on 4k fine.
>>107562136I got myself in May a Lamzu Paro Aurora cause of the optical encoder and switches. It hasn't developed any wheel jumping or double clicking yet but compared to other mice I've also used it much less. My hope is that it's long lasting but in theory the battery is another possible point of failure. It's a bit pricey but at least for now I can recommend it. The box comes with two pair of skates but you have to apply them yourself just as warning.
>>107562182Is it for big hands? I'm 6'4". Not that anon.
>>107561686None of the pins look bent or damaged. I'm also plugging in my mouse and keyboard on the backside directly in to the mobo. >>107561850DRAM, and it's glowing orange. I googled it and on the ASUS support website it says >indicates no Memory or Memory faultyI'm looking at what they're supposed to look like when properly attached and I don't think I've done it correctly. But there's so much resistance when I push them down and I'm scared to break them. I don't even want to know how much 64gb of DDR5 ram is going to cost me.
>>107562189I think in your units I should be a bit taller than 6'1"? It's smaller than some of my previous ROCCAT mice. It's also an ergonomic mouse not everyone seems to like this.
>>1075621024k is a meme, still. Even the 4090 and 5090 struggle with it without sacrifices like using DLSS or lowering settings. Don't fall for the meme.
>>107562266People have had access to dlss for 5 years nowyou cant stop pretending someone is spending 1k € on an nvidia gpu to avoid using one of its key selling points
>>107562266You think a 4070 is running much at 1440p ultra without DLSS?
>>107562212Two or four sticks? If you only have two did you check the motherboard manual which are the primary slots and and are you using them?
>>107562334nigga we get posts /here/ every day about retards asking if a 5070Ti or 5080 is worth it for native 4K
Currently going back and forth with a guy on eBay (uk btw but converting to USD)Is $380 a decent price for a 3080fe ? For reference, the 5070 is about $650 new (and thats on the cheaper end...)Planning just to throw it in a pc I saw with a 5700x, 6gb 1060 (which I'll probably use as a secondary GPU for lossless scaling or sell) and a 800w power supply for some reason. The mobo is shit (pcie 3) but I can probably take my chances on eBay again for a b550. Gonna sell my gaming laptop and buy a cheap one with actually decent battery life...
Need a cooler for 9800x3d and was thinking of phantom spirit se/evo but earlier threads scared me with rattling issues. Don't trust AIOs.
>>107562135>i literally told you dumbfuckNo, you said vague shit about futureproofing. Tell me whatever you can't do with your current card that you would be able to do on a 5070Ti.
>>107562424and the answer is yes because you can use dlss transformer model from 1080p to upscale to 4k
>>107562468Yeah exactly, they ask for NATIVE FOUR KAY but the solution is to use DLSS, which they don't want to do. Insert some luddite shit about hating AI and such here, etc.
>>107562437Depends on RAM clearance and case. Got those already? Use pcpartpicker for compat and or CharGPT can also double check... Sometimes.
>>107562434Used 30 series might have been from a mining rig. So...is it cheap, yeah. Just know the risk that comes with buying a used 30 series card.
>>107562489I've heard the thermal pads and paste are the things to change if its used. I'm comfortable doing that, but is there anything else to worry about?
>>107562481I dont think native 4k is a thing for modern AAA but sure, someone can be ignorant enough to not be aware of how ubiquitous upscalers are and maybe they havent upgraded their pc for a decade idk
>>1075623762x32gb. In slot A2 and B2 like the manual said. I'm pretty sure they're not all the way in but I'm scared of fucking it up. I broke a wine glass I was polishing last week.
which 9070 xt brand
>>107562520they all perform the same so check out charts relating to cooler perfomance and noise levels
>>107562501Not really. If they show you that it works then I would be comfortable in buying it.
>>107562514Push harder, retard. You can clearly see the clip not in position. You can still see the fucking metal connectors on the ram.
>>107562212> there's so much resistance when I push them down and I'm scared to break themRight, that's exactly what installing DRAM tends to feel like, until you get used to it. First time, I was so afraid, I eventually ended up fetching my dad and have him install them for me. Maybe this can help> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KiBKGFnn0sk
>>107562514>https://www.kingston.com/de/memory/gaming/kingston-fury-beast-ddr5-memoryChecking the video on Kingstons site as the other anon pointed already out it looks like they aren't properly seated.
>>107562514Push in harder, and push near the edges. If anything, YouTube someone else putting in DDR5 RAM. I know it can be intimidating so I'll spare any personal attacks like the other anon. Practice makes perfect. your RAM maker may have even a 30 second YouTube video to show you. Monkey see, monkey do. I am a visual learner as well so you're not alone with the anxiety.
I installed ddr5 into a board recently and it really does ask for insane pressureIt feels bad and like its enough force to break the mobo if doing it in the wrong part
>>107562525which pic should i focus more on?
>>107562334DLSS isn't native. Upscaling 720p to 4k isn't 4k.
>>107558323Freindly reminder this is all because of the ‘non-profit’ know as openai.
>>107562659GPU temp, GPU boost clock, and fan RPM.
>>107562659the gpu temp is somewhat irrelevant since theres variables in the gpus configs. Some run higher clocks and some have fans going slower causing less noise.I think some gpu reviewers make the gpus run at exact same clocks to make comparing coolers easierthe video had these to rec overall so check the pricing locally, these gpus are not the worst in any category and so on
>>107562659Memory tempHotspot tempVRM tempGpu tempFan speed/noisein that orderAlso, from what I've seen, Powercolor and Asus are maybe less likely to have coil whine.
>MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus>RTX 5060 ti 16GB gaming oc>AMD Ryzen 7 5800x>2x 8gb T force Vulcan Z ddr4 ram >Corsair RM750e>Samsung 990 Evo plus 1TB SSD>H5 Flow caseDid I do good for just under $1300? Would have been nice to go for the Ryzen 7 7800x3d but that and having to use DDR5 ram would have been too much money for me unfortunately.
>>107561327> Toshiba MG> very loudNo, not the helium filled larger capacity drives. The smaller ones without are. Of any brand btw.I got a very silent 20TB, only audible when active and it doesn't make annoying kind of noise.I switched off "indexing" to prevent the OS from unnecessarily touching it and installed it with noise decoupling rubber plugs so it doesn't abuse the whole case as a soundbox. And it's blistering fast for a HDD. The fasted I ever had.
>>107562825You could get a cheaper case like the AIR 903 from the op, and get a cpu cooler with that money. Also, for gaymen, the 5700x performs the same as the 5800x, and maybe try to look around for a second hand 32gb ddr4 3600 cl16 or 3200 cl4 kit, should be about the same as the retail price for that 16gb kit.
>>107562850>noise decoupling rubber plugsCan you link what you bought? I'm curious. I'm moving to a new case (Fractal) from a Lian Li which I had used rubber washers on all the mounting screws.
>>107562825And the gaming oc is the niggabyte card with the tiny pcie connector, right? If you can, get the gaming oc max or whatever it's called. It has the full connector and was the same price for me.
>>107562159To watch programs you can't receive via SAT?
I want to buy something to raise my pc off the ground cause this new pc has intake fans on the bottom and it's gonna start sucking up all the dog hair on the floor. The PC probably weights more than 60lb so anyone have any recommendations? My desk only has room for 1 monitor so that isn't an option.
>>107562266And even the 6090 will struggle to produce 1488 FPS in 4k native. A forever meme was born with 4k for all those who can't afford it.
>>107562624> insane pressureInserted in wrong angle?Note helped the braces to move with your other hand?The braces often make for a large part of the resistance.
Is this Mini Itx build going to over heat?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x3sn3w
>>107562879Forgot to put in I also bought the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE as my CPU cooler>>107562891>tiny pcie connector,Qrd? Is that something I should worry about? I did a quick look on Amazon but I'm not seeing it yet.
>>107563044>Is that something I should worry about?It's held in only by friction and doesn't sit securely in the pcie slot. Probably doesn't matter too much since it's a small card and the screws should be enough, but still.
>>107562437>Don't trust AIOs.Steve from Gamers Nexus recommends the ID-Cooling A720 Black for optimal price/performance (with the catch that, given its size, you'll need to take RAM compatibility into consideration) or the Sudokoo SK 700V for its unique mechanical design and, by nature of its single-fan build, its almost guaranteed RAM compatibility. The A720 hovers around $70 and the SK700V was $70 during holiday sales but is now back to $90. If you opt for the SK700V variant without the digital display, it's currently going for ~$70.
>>107559152probably, ask grok or something, but you should have just bought a better case.
>play game>raytracing>max settings, native resolution>runs at 70-ish FPS>game runs smooth>get to the part after the elevator pic rel>GPU driver crashHow often does AMD drivers crash using raytracing on a 6800XT? Otherwise this game without RT (and majority of the games I've played) never crashed. I pretty much have a good system with good cooling and my PSU is above what the 6800XT is asking. This shit makes me not want to try out RT.
>>107559467clean it, and invest in bloody dust filters, attach them to the intake ducts/vents of your pc and watch this shit no longer happen, so long as you clean your pc every few months that is.https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/352877725584
>>107563294It's a demoAlso that game crashes every time you use AMD's redstone ML frame generation. It won't even launch.
>>107562514
>>107563382Why is it so big
>>107563294How is Pragmata so far? Been meaning to try out the demo
>>107563394
>>107563396It's like Dead Space Bioshock in terms of gameplay feel because you're essentially a big babysitter for the child android. Combat is a mix of a hacking mini-game and shooting--you hack the robots for big damage and it exposes their internals, then switch to a gun for big damage. Hack-shoot-dodge-hack-shoot.If you're using KB/M, hold ALT to swap between aiming and hacking.
>>107563396If you're a graphics slut it's made me hype for when they'll get into city environments they've been teasing.
>>107562611>it can be intimidatingsame with putting a GPU intoa brand new PCIe slot, that "crrrrk" it makes before the "click" gives me the feeling of Impending Doom.
I don't care about waitfaggingBut I'm gonna be mad if for whatever reason I happen to die when prices become low or soon after acquiring a gaming PC
i got a 1440p 16:9 27" for my new build and its kinda too big. i've only had 13" macbook and 15" lenovo's until now and it seems so big i can only focus on small windows... i've had it for 2 weeks not and i'd thought i could get used to it but i haven't. i litterally wanna just use my macbook for anything thats not resource intensive and I need my tower to use its this bad. will i get used to it eventually and give it some time or trade it in?
>>107563846just get used to it
>>107554729is msi the only good mb for am5???>1 x16 pcie >2 m.2 at x4 cpu
>>107554729God i feel so lucky I got my rtx 3060 12 gb gddr6 for 150 usd just two months ago. Already the rtx 5060 I got for 299 shot up to 319 and the moment stocks dry up it's gonna increase even more. I am ready to make some money baybeee
>>107563846kek, got a 32" monitor at work a long time ago, same feeling, overwhelming>now i think anything smaller is too small, am on my 2nd 32" at home
>>107559297You can just use laptop hdds as external storage with a sata to USB cable... That's how I got 14 tb (I have two 5 tbs)
>>107563846You'll be fine. I went from 1080p 24'' monitor to 4k 48'' tv, and it turned out very well.
>>107559075did gigabyte only do the disable usb4 for pro x3d board is it the other x870e boards like the X870E AORUS ICE
>>107560411Keep the nvmes. If they are Gen 4 you're gonna be a very rich man when Amazon stocks dry up ;)
Coming from 3070 should I upgrade to 5070 or 9070 xt? I play at 1440p.
>>107563895SATA to USB is slow as fuck and unreliable.Recently went up from 250TB of storage to 500TB of raw storage. I'm set for a year before it fills up again.
>>107560452Fuck off learn how to manage your storage. Use external hard disks for cold storage and you will never run out of shitt. Spent 15 years with 1 tb sata ssd for os and games, rest went to 14 tb external hdd in total
>>107561182Hold on a bit. The market is gonna shoot up in price when the pre-built stocks dry up and buyers see 2-3k usd for a mid-range gayming pc. Do not lower more than 5/10% max
>>107561630Where have you been living bro? In a cave?
>>107563914>SATA to USB is slow as fuck and unreliable.Only the 20 year old MSD bridges.UASP is indistinguishable from native.
>>107563790You're gonna wait a long time... Like at least till 2029-2030 till prices settle.
How to make sure my DDR5 2x16gb 6000 ram stay healthy as long as possible?Deactivate the AMD EXPO and run it slower?
>>107563914Cold storage. You know what that means? You store stuff and leave them there. Use the biggest nvme for your os and stuff you access every day I don't care but don't you have documents you keep? Or a tv show you finished years ago? Keep them in external hdd and only access when you need them again
>DDR5 2x8gb heH a few weeks ago this was a bad price to pay for 32GB
>>107563919Sorry I hurt your feelings.
>>107560632>>107560764bruh, SCRAMBLE. You got 3 options for a decent SSD now, 2 are about to be gone. You got Kingston, Samsung, and Crucial. Figure it out. Kingston are solid for budget options. Teamgroup are another option, but the one time i tried their SSD's (their ram is fine), it died on me in 3 months and i lost all the data. Samsung first, then Crucial, then Kingston in priority, and HURRY.>mfw i just checked the exact model of ram i bought in January this year>its exactly 5x the price i paid.
>>107564140>16gigsi just checked my current ram usage (64gig master race ddr5), i have a few tabs open in both opera and firefox. I'm passively using 12gigs of memory right now on Winblows 11, 4gigs cached memory. You better be using linux poorfag.
>>107564117if it doesn't break in the first few weeks it won't break in ten years. ram modules aren't really complex like gpus, psus and motherboards with hot running capasitors that can blow up (which actually have a life time at a certain tempreture). >>107564179windows starts using more ram if you have more ram. my threardripper system with 256gb runs like at like 14gb at idle.
>>107564189Maybe modern ramI remember from the early 2000s, the first thing that breaks apart in my PC was always the ram, causing instability. You could check it with mem test.
>>107564208i literally just did a bunch of memory testing and shit, it had defaulted to the bare minimum after the shitty motherboard (it was a refurb model, i wasn't given a chance to get a refund and buy something else when i was shipped a DOA mobo) forgot my memory settings again.6000mhz, CL36, 64gigs gskill ripjaws neo rbg.
>>107564113That's fine, sounds like a nice time lapse to save a decent amount of money
>>107564208rambus ddram maybe which ran very hot.if the modules themselfes or the componennts don't have a design defect ram becomes like the second most robus component in a pc after maybe the cpu.
>>107563913I guess base 9070 is also an option. 9070 XT seems to have huge power requirements
>>107564120I only use cold storage for my backup. Because:1. You can't verify data integrity2. Connectors are only rated for a certain amount of plugging in/out.Go use cold storage for one big drive. But once you start getting to 50TB or more then it becomes impractical.
Who the fuck has more than 10TB of storage anyways?Stop LARPING as a data center.
>>107564189>system with 256gb runs like at like 14gbanon my 128 gb shitbox boots and idles at 8GB, you must have a lot of stuff loaded.
>>107564323i don't.
>>107564318My porn and movies are serious business. also you fail to comprehend that OCD and autism come hand-in-hand
>>107564318I have like 20TB and I consider it pretty small compared to some people I know. Anyone with a NAS probably has 100TB+
>>107563394Asians have small hands like that.
>>107564328intredasting. i have tuned it a bit, turned of not needed services and whatnot but also no pagefile, no paging of the kernel, large system cache, L2/L3 cache tuning (all of which consooms a bit more ram)
>>107564345porn is on the internet now. They'll censor anything and everything before they take away porn
>>107563358>Also that game crashes every time you use AMD's redstone ML frame generation. It won't even launch.But muh wait for Redstone bros!
>>107560713$400
nah, you people are joking about having 100s ot TB for porn.its all in the internet anyways
>>107564700Nothing personnel kid
>>107564700Do not delete your favorite porn.Your future self will thank you.Hot chicks in 2025 have plenty of other ways to make money than hardcore porn.The pool of great porn actresses is getting smaller.
>>107564740>>Hot chicks in 2025 have plenty of other ways to make money than hardcore porn.that part there aren't even any real sluts anymore, just whores chasing a bag
>>107564740>3D pornshiggy diggy
>>107564782One of my favourite stories on ao3 got deleted too... I should backup some of the others but I'm too lazy.
G.Skill Flare X5 6000MHz 34-44-44-96vs. Corsair Vengeance 6400MHz 30-36-36-76
>>107564796How? Do they even delete shit there?I've seen some extreme pedo stories there.
>>107564845I don't know if the admins delete things but authors delete their own shit all the time.
>>107564845usually author deciding to nuke everything
are there any X870E motherboards that can handle two 5090s?
>>107560859yeah those are the dips I didn't buy during the peak lows
>>107564832are those 128gb kits?last kit is better but you don't need me to tell you that
>>107564980I was told that g.skill has better quality hynix chips
When Newegg shoved your GPU in a box of the same dimensions 6 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bagShould be fine but I document everything until I get all my parts and start the build on a Saturday
>>1075649916000 34 does not look like a guarantee hynixI think they need to be 6400c32 or 6000c30 like the last kitbut you can always check lists for first kit what is the product number thingy
>>107564999I was at a retailer and people were returning a tv with a cracked screenI told them niggas to always record unboxingsthe retailcucks ask how do they transport it, how did they unbox it and so on and so forthyeah if you don't wanna get cucked, record unboxingalthought that looks too minor to care
>>107565005What about CMH64GX5M2B6000Z30
>>107564999Fun fact, the ones making the product (in your case MSI) are the ones responsible for proper packaging of the item It's their job to make sure the item inside (GPU) is properly packaged. It is not the vendor's job to do so. The vendor's job is to only protect the OUTSIDE box.I used to work in a shipping warehouse. We ship all kinds of items with minimal packaging all the time.
Tell me gentleman, Is it worth building a pc atm or at least buying everything minus ram? I've been using the same pc for the past 10 years (minus the 2tb SSD I got after my HDD started to fail). I've never had a drive to upgrade since I was never interested in any of the more demanding games that came out, and my steam deck held me over for some of the mid range games. Now that ai is becoming a concern, is it smart to upgrade now before things get worse or just wait?
>>1075649916000cl34-44-44 is a bin that's probably exclusively micron rev. D while 6400 cl30-36-36 is high binned Hynix a-die
>>107565019Average/crap bin Hynix a-die
>>107565030>I've never had a drive to upgrade since I was never interested in any of the more demanding games that came out, and my steam deck held me over for some of the mid range gamesYou answered your own question.>Now that ai is becoming a concern, is it smart to upgrade now before things get worse or just wait?Don't upgrade for the sake of upgrading. Upgrade for a good reason.
we are backI looked around and due to cheap ram finds and other parts put together a 5090 + 9800x3d build can still land on 3600€ due to finding cheaper ram and cheaper 5090s stillthis is the last chance, after this it's all over
>>107565030> everything minus ramWhat's the point? A non-operational PC to look at as the prices continue to rise well into 2027?
>>107565030another waitcuck bites the dust kek
If your RAM ever seems to be taking forever, did you remember to turn it off and on again?
Would a 9950x3d be meaningfully more future proof for gaming than a 9800x3d, or does the 2 CCD design always hamstring it even in a future where games could use the threads?
>>107565164p r o c e s s l a s s orocesslasso
Is the 5080 FE on nvidia's site for 1k worth it?
>>107565251>is>nvidia>worth itno
>>107565256>>107565256>>107565256>>107565251I don't think so, but GPU pricing will only get worse next year.
>>107565251Just as long as you know that the 5080 is just that in name only and is really a 5070 in spec and performance
if you're slowly building a PC, and I really mean slowly, might take years, hunting for deals, is getting a mobo with pci express 5 the most future proof component right now along with a PSU with a nice amount of wattage? im asking this because new GPU models release every year, some are trash, well nowadays a lot seem to be trash or super expensive, so maybe it's better to buy the GPU for last?
>>107565328that is stupid
>>107565328Your warranty starts ticking down the moment you buy a part so that's a really bad idea