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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>107584865
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don't buy intel and their suicide cpus with estrogen cores
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>>107588684
That's not lost on me, and I would consider the 5090 for MSRP. I can't justify getting scalped to buy any of the current gimped cards though. Most I might do is find a cheap second hand 4070 or 3000-series card and just wait things out.
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I'm planning on getting a super flower, but why is the be quiet! psu almost $120 more for essentially the same power? I'm using the psu guide in the OP btw.
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>>107588702
I got a 7800x3d and it's nice but it idles at 50c which is a bit scary
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>Just opened ram up today after geting it in mail
>why the fuck is my mobo not workign with it
>notice pins are different
>decide to take heatsink off
>they fucking put ddr4 ram with ddr5 heatsinks and some weights inside

holy shit even newegg is fucked with ram.
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>>107588735
how are high idle temps scray?
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I guess I should build a cluster of rtx 6000's.
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>>107577748
the duality of man
>>107578151
>>107578282

nobody knows how bad things will really get
surely the 6090 release will be twice as sweet in the end right
I must believe there is redemption for a waitfag
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>>107588724
Super Flower is the in-house retail brand of a PSU OEM, so they can afford to sell their units at a lower price.
be Quiet hires OEMs like CWT or FSP to make their PSUs.
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Any small-ish cases that will take a full ATX mobo?
Was looking at the O11 air mini but that's been discontinued afaik
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>>107588724
Because jews and going overkill features for 1000W max setups so you pauly retardly high prices compared to competitions that are totally fine
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>>107588763
in which dimension?
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Where ia the HW review?
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>>107588747
cause if this pc dies I'm screwed cause I probably can't afford to fix it.
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>>107588778
??? why?
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>>107588778
it can't be less expensive then adding two of those on each side.
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Any recommendations for a fan for my 9950x? Was doing some work and temps were a constant 95c, spiking to 100c
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>>107588783
your mb is going to die sooner than your cpu. hope that helps.
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>>107588769
In every dimension preferably but some extra height is fine if the footprint is small.
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>>107588787
then there's the potential of some idiot plugging in both sides at once
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>>107588792
AyyEyeOh 360mm
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>64gb DDR5 is as much as an RTX 5080
>which is already expensive
thanks AI slop companies
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>>107588603
>>107588640
Sometimes I really have to wonder what are the exact specifics of AIO setups that produce complaints of pump noise. Are they or are they not using the pump at 100%? Did they mount the radiator below the pump?
For me and my FX360 perhaps it is possible that this model and individual unit just has outstanding world-class acoustics (virtually inaudible over fans even at 100%), but maybe most other complaints about AIOs comes entirely from User Errorâ„¢.
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>>107588735
x3d/AMDs idle at like 40-50, literally normal and they are built to run at 95c (tjmax) at all times

they are just warmer cause of the stacked cache, totally normal. also dont set your fan curve too high, my ak620 would go at 2000rpm with stock curve, at 50% it goes to like 1000 max and the temps are the same, but now it's very quiet.
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>>107588724
Super Flower is Taiwanese OEM, Be Quiet is German.
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>>107588785
Gimmick design for easier installation in niche case designs or if you just want to have easier cables acess
$180 mrssp for the 1K Watt model so not even that bad,bit more if you buy the version with usb headers hub.
Personally i like it having 5 pcie connectors, so many PSU have 2-3 and AMD GPU still come with 3x PCIe and the future looks like having less and less chance to buy Nvdia
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>>107588837
Well I guess that makes me feel better. Didn't realize those were normal idle temps
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>>107588809
i always liked the p300 from pahnteks since it was quite small and well made for a tower at 36l (o11 mini is at 43.09l) but they don't sell those anymore. there are not a lot of options apart from the SSUPD Meshroom S [V2]
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can you imagine how expensive a 6090 will be on:
>new 2nm node
>RAM costs a trillion dollars
>actual performance increase unlike the 5090 which is still ada node
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>>107588826
Keep crying. I am now shitposting from my brand new premium AM5 PC. The rape will continue.
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>>107588868
better start saving now to dab on the poorfags
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>>107588809
>>107588866
forgot about the Jonsbo D41 Mesh
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>>107588894
>2560x1440
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>>107588868
Don't care, still hyped for release. Praying it's worse than last time. Gonna need the asus bukcet of rog 2.0.
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>>107588859
?????? Where the fuck is the 24pin for the motherboard if you don't rotate the PSU?
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>>107588868
>>actual performance increase unlike the 5090 which is still ada node
people probably underestimated the perf jump in 4k with memory bandwidth and rt perf
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>>107588917
On the side
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>>107588932
>thick as fuck cable now doesn't let you close the side panel
>if you need to unplug a cable now you have to remove the motherboard 24pin first to acess the others
What a retarded design no one askes for
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>>107588787
The pins are protruding and can kill someone if they're bridged together
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>>107588961
>>107588787
i don't see the problem with that.
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>waiting for the new mid-cycle motherboard refresh releases
>announced at the end of Q3 '25
>still no news on when they're releasing only a nebulous "maybe Q1 '26"
I can't wait much longer. I already have everything else. I must builddddddddd.
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>>107588932
how do you bend the 24 min cable and close the case?
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>>107589030
*pin

idk wouldnt it be hard to run cables if the 24 pin is on the side?
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If I only plan to stay 1440p is the 5060Ti good enough?
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>>107589061
no
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>>107589030
https://youtu.be/k0mBZFN5vb8
The cables looks flexible enough
It's a gimmick PSU still but the Edge also was and it's very solid build quality so this one should be too
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>>107588785
gimmicky lian li electronics = questionable durability
i would avoid it until its at least a year old and doesnt have a ton of user reported issues
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>>107588868
12-14k a pop would be funny
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>>107588868
im hoping my 5090 will be worth at least 0.75 trillions by then to subsidize the cost of a new 6090
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>>107588686
what's it with zoomers and millenials keeping stickers on everything. even on their silly hats.
moronic.
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RAM is probably more valuable than gold at this point.
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Posting again for an potential answer.
>>107586268
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Im about to buy a used SSD with only 2TBW written.

Convince me not to, /v/bros
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>>107589183
good deal.
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>>107589136
>t. a guy without a sticker
if you have it use it and hats were made to be decorated anyway, if your hat is not a fancy hat what is the point of it? to cover the bald spot?
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>>107589203
Really ? Pic is seller pic
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>>107589183
>a used SSD
>buying
might as well shove a cactus up your ass or search for paypig abuse ethots, if you are into that then go for it
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Thoughts on the 5080 MSI 16G VENTUS 3X OC Model?
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>>107589216
2tb with only 2tb written?
yeah, it's @ >99.5% health.
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>Nvidia is reportedly planning to cut production of its GeForce RTX 50 series GPUs by up to 40% in 2026 due to memory shortages
$10000 gaming gpus inc
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Basically if i want a goos PSU according to HW i have to give monet to NZXT lol
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>>107589280
>reportedly
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>>107589304
rm850x 2019 version, zero issues

also works with their 12vhpwr cables, 2 pcie -> new connector, no issue on a 4080.
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What I'm hearing is Donald Trump is going to give every unmarried man an Intel Arc C770.
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>>107589310
indeed, in reality they won't waste chips for anything but the absolute highest margin workstation cards and there won't be many of them to go around, a mere 40% cut doesn't look severe enough considering the situation.
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>OLED went down in price for a day and I thought about for too long and missed out again
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buy dont wait
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Is it normal to have to push mobos with IO shields against the case to get the standoffs to line up? They seem to be 1 or 2mm off if I just sit it in.
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>>107589419
use different height standoffs
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>>107589419
yes. especially if the back panel surrounding the ports is foamy.
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>>107589216
it should be fine since its from a later batch with the firmware degradation fix
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What is the best game to stress my CPU?
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>>107589548
you don't want that since this results in unstable frame rates and frame times. it's city skylines 2 btw.
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We all be building new PCs next year. This is all a hoax to make you buy old parts right now.
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>>107589304
I would buy a super flower atx 3.1 but i can't fucking find one in EU
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We'll never be building new PC ever again. This is your last chance to have your own hardware.
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>>107588686
Is the RX 9060 XT good if I also want it for slop and VR compared to the 5060 Ti?
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>>107589625
Nvidia is better at slop from what I've heard. Dunno about VR.
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We will build in 3 years paying 10-25% more.
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>>107589419
Yes, they're supposed to get jammed in there tight. Just don't use too much force.
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>>107589261
Come on. Someone talk me out of it. Can get free shipping and IDGAF about the warantee because I'm watercooling.
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Why does everything looks so slow even though my frames go above 60 and I know how smooth that looks, there must be something really wrong that I'm doing yet have no explanation for that...
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>>107589701
>1049.99
>not gigabyte
>on the day rumors say nvidia may cut supply 30-40% soon
>after nvidia shat on board partners by refusing to bundle vram for them
>after amd announced price hikes are coming in january
Shan't talk you out of it. Fuck your wallet.
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>have 64 gb of mem
>pc uses 30gb idle
>have 128 gb of mem
>pc uses 60 gb idle
what the fuck
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>>107589548
Low res Cyberpunk 2077 while driving
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>>107589701
why buy a 5080 when you can buy a 5090? prices will be double by end of 2026, might as well invest now
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>>107589701
nope, buy it if you can.
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I saw this yesterday, should I go back when they open and get it?
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>>107589752
this
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>>107589216
Just be careful there are too many fake Samsung nvmes
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Is it normal for my q-code display to keep changing constantly while the pc is working normally?
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>>107589752
Because the 5090 costs 2.5-3x as much if you can even find a decent one.
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Is an AM4 system going to pose any potential bottlenecking to a 5090?
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>>107589763
Well you have to say what it actually costs. Save $400 out of how much? Looks like a whole package including KB+M.

>9800x3d
>5070
Guaranteed ultra gouged prices for suckers
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>>107589763
I buy poop
also check the ram quality, pre-built always cut costs on psus, rams and storage
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>>107589763
>save $400 of off markup from building PC cost and useless peripherals
Depends, are you from Palestine? Then definitely worth it
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>>107589763
>save 400
doesn't tell me anything, what was the actual price?
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>>107589789
Your 2 digit readout on the motherboard? If its changing constantly its because its in CPU temp mode after successful post. Confused me the first time too until I realized what it was showing.
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>>107589807
>>107589806
>>107589797
fuck my bad, og price is 1899 so 1499 after the sale
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>>107589809
Thanks anon I was scared
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>>107589216
https://youtu.be/xb1wzeCCWaY?si=b4RXtYFCZihGaGkU

That's a fake samsung. I knew it. Original ones are made in Vietnam or Thailand
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>>107589813
buy one for me
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>>107589813
CPU and GPU alone costs $1.3k
Add to the list RAM, motherboard, PSU, case, cooling, keyboard and mouse...
That's a fucking deal!
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>>107589813
it can come with no ram and ssd and it would still be a deal
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>>107589849
it probably does come with no ram lol
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>>107589858
It says 32 gibibytes, what are you blind
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>>107589861
anon...
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>>107589861
i think he meant that someone is going to open the case and steal the ram
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>>107589763
https://www.costco.com/p/-/ibuypower-element-gaming-pc-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-12gb-windows-11-home-32gb-ram-2tb-ssd/4000384603
You could have taken 5 seconds and posted a link.
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>>107589813
yup, buy.
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But does yours have Ethereal Aurora?
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>>107589876
Now people from here will steal it from him, happy?
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>>107589883
why would that matter? you are using a water block right?
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>>107589792
PCI-e 4 chipset, top end am 4 CPU shouldn't experience a major bottleneck on 5090 but yes it can, you should check the bottleneck calculators before buying.
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>>107589895
Costco is members only. My local one has the same offer.
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>>107589063
Yes.
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>>107589912
Why aren't you buying one and reselling?
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>>107589902
>putting water in your electronics
no thanks
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>>107589919
sure hope you ain't using any vapor chambers then
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you may not like this but this is actually what peak performance looks like
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>>107589928
>asus
use a real board from supermicro or something
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anyone here using a threadripper?
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>>107589939
ye
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Waitfags btfo
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>>107589752
this
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>>107589935
i am not powering a server here
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>>107589956
did you buy it using nazi cash?
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>>107589928
>peak performance
>not a Threadripper board
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>>107588894
I am now shitposting from my brand new premium-ACK!
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yeston BTFO
https://youtube.com/shorts/JLFw_Bu2FAY
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>>107589967
x3d "burn" was only caused by a couple of asrock boards with a bad bios that had SOC voltage too high.
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>>107588894
x870e motherboard
>stock expo settings
Jesus Christ this is who is gloating at you.
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>>107589779
>>107589820
Didnt samsung already has an app to check if the SSD was genuine or not ?
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>>107589973
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>>107589969
I prefer the Yeston mermaid girl. The accessories on that one are nice though.
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>>107589983
i already said that msi is trash
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Crazy how people were conditioned to just accept 320, 350, 450, and finally 600W GPUs in the last 5 years after bitching about Fermi, Hawaii, and Vega. Hell even the 1080 Ti was seen as hot and hungry.
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>>107589983
>personally used 7800x3D on a b650 aorus elite ax
>now 9800x3D
>zero issue for over a year
it's fine.
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>>107589310
the market runs on zpsculation and vibes
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>>107589991
to me it's crazy some 5090s draw 800 watts. my 4080 at 70% power limit uses like 220 watts and the fans are at like 30% and inaudible basically.
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>>107589991
energy is cheaper
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>>107589991
don't forget the arson connector but sheeple will eat it all up
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>>107589969
>hellhound mascot
>not a succubus or cerberus like anime bitch
Yawn
That butt though....
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>>107589980
>Send 5 weeks tuning your ram manually for 5 more fps out of your cpu that already will never bottleneck your gpu at 1440p ever
I'll do buildzoid ez timings later maybe when I can be bothered but no kill yourself. I bought this board for the good VRM and heatsinks, not to be a retard sitting in his bios and running karhu ram test all day for no gain.
>>107589967
That was a redditor that literally jammed it into the socket. The ASSCock cases you can't even see anything on the socket or cpu
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Via BenchLife
>In addition to the news from Board Channels, several AIC partners and component suppliers have also mentioned to us that NVIDIA will be the first to adjust the supply of GeForce RTX 5070 Ti and GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB GDDR7.
So basicslly buy a 5060 Ti or 5070 Ti right now seems like the best value move among current gen? Because fuck dealing with 3090's power draw and triple slot shit.
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>>107590019
the vrm doesn't matter with a 9800x3d
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>>107589961
Yes, funded by the finest Reichsmarks
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>>107590005
3090 Ti had the best power delivery ironically
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Why does ryzen need to train memory every startup?
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>>107589990
i was replying to our favorite troon i don't care what you think
all motherboard manufacturers are the same btw, it's a taiwanese cartel
>>107589995
that's because you're not a fag so god doesn't think you deserve it
>>107590019
it's gonna explode bro
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>>107589998
>my 4080 at 70% power limit uses like 220 watts and the fans are at like 30% and inaudible basically.
Did you undervolt too? Also the heatsink difference must be crazy given my 2070 Ventus 3X is loud as balls at the mimimum 30% fan speed (1450 RPM)
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>>107588894
>Asus prime 9070xt
>Premium
What did she mean by this?
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>>107590043
Right? It isn't intel arc
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>>107589998
Yeah I have a 4090 and 5090 and I'm not sure what exactly they did but the latter uses a lot more juice. Maybe it's the memory bus width and gddr7 or maybe it's the vcore, who knows.
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>>107589820
>>107589779
FUCKING HELL I JUST DODGE A BULLET
THANK YOU ANONS I FUCKING LOVE YOU GOD FUCKING HELL IT WAS A FAKE DAMN
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>Poor people with 6th gen intel rigs hating on the anon with a new powerful rig to cope with their envy
Good for you those are nice specs nico bro. None of these fags will post their hwinfos I know it.
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>>107589216
how do you know where it was made
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>>107590066
you lick it
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>>107590067
go on
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>>107590064
Been saying this for a little while now, it's the same shit they've been pushing in India. Everyone will have a subscription-based terminal, and even if you have hardware at home, asshole tech companies will eventually require it for "security reasons".
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>>107590027
Moores law is dead my trusted prophet told me zen 7 is coming to AM5 and I believe him. I will upgrade to 12 core 11800x3d in 2027-2028
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>>107590064
i've already posted it several times before
nothing wrong with the rig, it's great, there's a problem with the owner
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>>107590064
cry more
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>>107590054
and this is one of many reasons why you don't buy "used" ssds
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>>107590069
If it tastes like dog, it's Vietnamese and real, and if it tastes like Thailand ladyboy, it's fake.
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>>107590098
the only pc part you can buy used is the case
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>>107590098
Im literally about to press the "buy" button before doing a last final check on this thread. Fucking hell.

Guess im gonna buy the new ones which is $100 more expensive instead. Fuck. I learn my lesson
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>>107590108
anon you could meet with him and threaten him for money
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>>107590064
Huh?
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i have never needed more than 1TB of storage
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>>107590211
i have.
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>>107590234
You're cute.
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i've officially been spooked into buying
i don't think this shit is going to get better in a year
anyway, here's the shopping list for my saturday trip to micro center

like, comment and subscribe
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>>107590247
i have a nas for that. no spinning rust in my system.
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hello, FBI? this one right here >>107590247
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>>107590260
Built from scratch or you bough a prebuilt NAS?
Been wanting to move my 400TB NAS to ZFS. Currently using OMV for it since at the time ZFS didn't have a way to add drives individually. Now that they did I don't really have an excuse not to use ZFS anymore.
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>>107590211
>had 1 tibibyte NVME SSD
>it was +90% full
>upgraded to 4 tibibytes of NVME SSD storage
>barely get to 1 tibibyte used
I don't get it
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>>107590299
build from a free office pc with ubuntu server. it's more of a game server that also has my zfs share on it i guess
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what do I do?
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just noticed that i can create a steam library on my smb share. i can play games from my nas lmao.
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>>107590317
Aaaaaaa. I don't really feel like moving my files. 400TB is a lot. I can let it run in the background but it'll take weeks to copy.
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>>107590350
zfs is great. i can tell you that but moving 400tb is going to take time.
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>>107590347
PS2 also supports Network Iso Streaming as well. It's faster to play your games through ethernet than disc drive or local HDD.
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>>107590358
It need an adapter though. Some models didn't come with it. Mine did so I'm able to do it.
I think the PS3 can also do it, not sure, but I just FTP into it instead.
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>>107590337
How this happened? What kind of cable is this?
I use one I got with seasonic PSU and it just works
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>>107590374
its the one that came with my corsair 850
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>>107590373
All PS2 slim models come with ethernet. Its the fat models that need a module. Also yes you can do the same thing on PS3.
https://consolemods.org/wiki/PS3:PS3netsrv
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>>107590337
what are your pc specs? how long have you had it before it burnt
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>>107590358
well the ps2 is just mounting a disk image file and sees the folders as is from a harddrive or a disk drive. with windows games its a bit more complex since windows games expect a certain path with a drive letter and have many folders and files in their folders that don't map well to an smb share. i remember it wasn't possible before. you had to create a iscsi share and couldn't use smb.
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>>107590393
only a week, 5090 aorus and intel i9-14900K not sure about the ram brand my friend gave it to me
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>>107590403
damn that sucks bro, try contacting gigabyte for a new gpu first. if they give you the run around then contact corsair for help in fixing both your psu and gpu. if gigabyte doesn't give you any trouble then contact corsair for a new psu replacement
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>>107590412
will try, thank you
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>>107590398
For PC games you can straight up local stream. Low Latency AV1 encode/decode is possible thanks to modern GPUs and new ARM devices.
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>>107590386
Is it 5090?
Were you overclocking?
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>>107590445
yeah aorus ice, and no all stock
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>>107590337
>>107590386
This is why power limits/undervolts are a must. Those transient spikes are deadly on these overkill GPUs. Can hit as high as more than 1000w on some models.
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>>107590459
Imagine if people's cars were blowing up for going down slopes lmao
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>>107590337
>>107590450
damn man.
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>>107590450
How you're running 5090 on a 850W PSU? What the hell
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>>107590467
Early Tesla Beta Testers
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>>107590386
I had thought the double ended 12vhpwr wouldn't give any trouble
Fwiw, the 12vhpwr is quite terrible in its current state since a slight change in how tightly it is fitted for that installation cycle can greatly affect how current is distributed.
I have an astral that measures per-pin current and use a 2x 8-pin to 12vhpwr corsair cable which on a random install, tend to vary anywhere from 4A to 13A of current in the worst and best pin while the cable is only rated for 9.2A and a perfect distrbution at 600W should be about 8.33A per cable which never happens. It takes like 5-30 minutes of reinserting the cable and moving it about to get it to an 7.6-8.5A (~10%) spread.
Unfortunately for the aorus master, you would need an external tool like the $200 thermalgrizzly wireview pro 2 to get the same per-pin current measurement of the astral so that you can prevent the cable from melting in future
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>>107590496
nta but why are you using that instead of 2x6?
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>>107590459
Nvdia only problem
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>>107590496
Why is your voltage so low?
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>>107590505
I'm on an older rm1000i PSU and didn't want to change it when I didn't have to. But seeing how much this cable vdroops (~0.300v) under 600w load, I'm thinking of getting a proper atx3.1 PSU soon, provided I find one that checks all the boxes
>>107590521
The current was low because the input voltage was high at the time. Add 0.3A to all pins' measurements when the voltage is at 12.05v instead of the 12.25v it was at the time of the screenshot.
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>>107590496
Boy am I glad I didn't get astral. Watching uneven current while anxiously feel the need to reinsert the cable in the GPU would drive me insane.
Out of view out of mind.
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>>107590535
what does atx 3.1 do again? i thought it had smaller pin holes or sumthin
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as
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Any chance for AMD to restart 5700X3D and 5800X3D production?
I literally can't find them under 300-350 bucks anymore.
If 3D is now at absurd prices, should I get a 5950X for 250 bucks? Or maybe I could just go with a cheaper 5800X that's still produced?
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>>107590542
The main differentiator is that it has a 12v-2x6 terminal on the PSU end, and atx3.1 requires the PSU to pass stricter transient loading tests which raises the minimum quality floor of PSUs compared to atx2.4 PSUs
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>>107590514
Rdna2 also had transient spike issues for their upper models. "Muh driver timeout" is the PSU not coping with the sudden power demand.
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>>107590459
Transients don't do shit for temps and heat. It's average power, resistance and current distribution that affects how hot these cables get.
A major issue is that this cable is engineered to work in ideal perfect conditions with no additional margin to account for external factors.
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there appears to be no practical benefit to running two pcs on one monitor here on my end but damn if it isn't the coolest thing ever
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>>107590557
Nope. they want you to buy AM5. 7800x & 9600x are just as fast if not faster.
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>>107590582
>main PC
>1 mini PC running windows that i do sketchy shit in
>1 linux where i do my testing
>all in one monitor controlled with a KVM
it's comfy
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>mfw 360w spikes on a shit 750 psu
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>>107590247
Very cute anon
But really, I should do something about my data hoarding disease. But then again, I'm convinced it's the right thing to do. The future looks more and more grim and every little warning sign from back then is becoming true. And worse than anticipated.
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>>107590539
The thing is that it doesn't have to be perfect. All you need to do is make sure none of the pins are slacking off with a terrible connection and overloading the better ones and the remaining pins will balance themselves out
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Still running an overclocked 6800XT on a 15yo 650W PSU. Watch me not giving a fuck.
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>>107590608
there is absolutely nothing wrong with data hoarding if you can afford it, in fact it would be weirder not to, especially so in the current world state
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>>107590337
>>107590403
>>107590421
>https://x.com/unikoshardware/status/2001609373177815125
>gigabyte 5090 aorus master ice
>asrock sl-1000gw
>pc built 7 months before

>16pin cable used, melted on both sides

>it seemed the user also did a lot of ai stuff other than gaming, according to his profile.
larper
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Recently got a new PC used some parts from my old PC I do not have a job and so am on an extremely tight budget so these were all bought on sale and are not the best I could have got I just wanted a more modern platform I have been stuck on a Z170A and i7 7700k since like 2016/17.

Please rate and recommend upgrades I am going to get an i5 or i7 at some point and I would love 32GB RAM but it is very expensive.

I love the speed of the SSD it is amazing and although the i3 is very low end (I got it for like 60 GBP) it has sorted the bottleneck I was having with my GPU.

ASRock B760M-HDV/M.2 - Mobo
16.0GiB Kingston DDR5 RGB - RAM
Intel® Core™ i3-14100F - CPU
NVIDIA GeForce RTXâ„¢ 4060 - GPU
Predator SSD GM7 1TB - NVME SSD
PNY CS1311 480GB SSD - Extra Sata SSD
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2 - PSU
MSI MAG FORGE 100R - Case
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>>107590630
I haven't touched my connector in 8 months + I've power limited 5090 and overclocked.
Feels safe.
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Thanks for the advice over the last week or two. Went on and ordered the 5080. Have Ram and one 8TB nvme. Gonna keep an eye out for another cheap nvme and see how part prices develop over the next month or two to get a 9800x3d, MB, dark power 14 PSU, and watercooling parts.
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>>107590743
Why do you need 8TB NVMe?
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>>107590743
How much did you pay for 5080?
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>>107590764
For Porn
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>>107590784
Oh, so you're just wasting money. Carry on.
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>>107590666
>its okay for it to blow up if you do stuff other than gaming
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>>107590764
The PC I'm retiring has aorund 7TB of games on it discounting roms (which will be kept on a SATA still), and I'll be buying many other new games once I finish the build. Anyway I got it cheap from a relative who bought it for video work but didn't need it.

>>107590768
I ordered this one:
>>107589701
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>>107590810
Are your playing all those games at once or something?
I use a 2TB NVMe and my games folder is around 100TB in my NAS. I just cpy the game files over if I want to play it.
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>>107588686
Alright lads. I need a 7800x3d upgrade to go with my gpu. Going from a i7 10700. Budget is around £800. Absolutely pissed atbrhe prices but im old hardware and was going to wait till February, but thinkjng it will be worse by then. Prob be the last time i ever upgrade.
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>>107590873
Shouldn't even consider an upgrade to a ddr5 platform unless you can source 32gb of ddr5 for less than 200-300 euro.
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>>107590843
I do jump around a lot but more than anything I prefer to avoid reinstallation/rewriting as much as possible especially on SSDs. My old PC has a 14YO kingston svp100 SSD as the C drive which still works perfectly because I was always careful to minimize rewriting on it.
Call it unnecessary but with the future so uncertain I'll bite the bullet on getting more storage now and babying it.
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>>107590743
congratulations anon, you are set for the next 5+ years, enjoy your new shit and mega comfy status of the guy who bought before RAMaggedon and NANDpocalypse
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>>107590892
>I prefer to avoid reinstallation/rewriting as much as possible especially on SSDs
Oh, okay. You're just retarded then.
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>>107590918
Yeah, nah. More storage = happier bees.
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>>107590887
£299 is the price for 2x16gb corsair vengeance 6000mt. I have £800
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>>107590953
I probably have more storage than you. I'm just not retarded and worrying about 'rewriting on SSDs'.
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cant build new comp until late jan early feb, am i cooked for good /g/?
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>>107590764
more storage > less storage, reason is irrelevant
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>>107590973
Nigga, if you aren't treating every component like you'll never be able to replace it again you need to get your head in the game. It's fucking cooked out here.
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>>107590961
If it's the last upgrade you're planning you could wait for the 9850x3d in early 2026. Else wise the remaining £500 after buying ram should get you a 7800x3d + decent b850 + maybe even an air cooler. Whatever you decide by whatever ram you can NOW.
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>>107590976
you are cooked
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>>107590976
Buy GPU now, if you are building on DDR5 and haven't bought a cheap kit you are already cooked. if you are making a ddr4 shitbox you are most likely cooked.
The correct play is to use buy now pay later 0% service today and then just pay it over the next year or whatever period you get. It will literally save you 500-2k+ if you are planning to build in the next 3 years.
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>>107590979
Yeah, but why an NVMe? Do you even need the fast speed? If you just want raw storage then you can buy 48TB of HDD space for the same price as an 8TB NVMe.
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>>107590992
If i get this will my samsung 970nvme ssd be ok for a short while till i recover and able to afford one?
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>>107591021
>>107590992
Also i have an arctic liquid freezer 2 240 and apparently it can be used for am5 cpu so wouldnt need a cooler. Thought id getbthe cheap one till i can get a better one in the future.
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>>107591021
m.2 slots are backwards compatible, the 970 will run at its pcie 3 speeds no problem. I'd get a better cooler like a peerless assassin or phantom spirit 120 though.
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>>107591002
maybe he doesn't want an HDD, maybe he wants 8tb of NVMe? purely for "its cool smol stick" reason? also until very recently you could get 8tb of NVMe 100$ cheaper than 8tb of sata SSD of equal top end quality.
Personally I agree and I'd go for HDD spam as well but that is me and you. regardless of preferences, type, form factor or even price
more storage > less storage, always.
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>>107591032
Ah nvm just use that aio then, no problems, use the money saved on cooling for an atx sized motherboard and you're set.
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Q27G40XMN for $250 or AW2725D for $550? I'm worried about burn in and text clarity for OLED.
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>>107591002
I have HDDs already, but I use those to hoard movies and backup shit. If I can get big NVMEs well below MSRP and I can avoid offloading games to my HDDs and avoid unnecessary re-installs/writes it's just a win-win right now. Big HDDs are going up in price anyway because data centers are buying them up also, so it's not like I can just count of grabbing tons of those in the future anyway.
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OLED vs Mini-LED vs IPS for a not-too-bright room, mixed usage?
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>>107590995
i have no money right now and am between jobs. Its over I guess...
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Is 5060ti 16gb good for 1440p?

Deciding between 1080 or 1440p monitor. I'm stuck with a 5060ti for 2 years probably
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>>107591142
well if your new job can cover the extra you will have to shill out its not that bad, painful but oh well
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>>107591078
>Big HDDs are going up in price anyway because data centers are buying them up also
I can tell you already don't know fucking shit about the subject. lmao
Data centers don't use HDDs anymore. Every single one of them moved to SSDs, or a SAS hybrid. No company is buying regular SATA HDDs.
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>>107590557
It's over, if you didn't buy X3D you are done for now. And be careful of scams, there are many fake 5700/5800X3D listings nowadays where I live.
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>64GB DDR5 kit i bought for 240 euro just hit 930 euro
holy fucking shit it's never been more over for waitfags
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>>107591195
>holy fucking shit it's never been more over for waitfags
I've been "waitfagging" since 2018 and I'm doing just fine, I can go another 5 years at least without an upgrade easy
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>>107591131
OLED is still the best
MiniLED is cope
IPS is budget
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>>107591195
there is still no shortage on the consumer segment, this is literally a prelude
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>>107591180
>No company is buying regular SATA HDDs.
I cant imagine being this confidently wrong. HDDs are still the vast majority of storage and they are sata. SAS has a very specific use case needed to bother with.

t. Anon who did data security for Google
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>>107591216
>OLED is still the best
Text clarity and burn in aren't an issue anymore?
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>>107591195
I dont get it. How can waitfags lose if they havent spend anything and dont plan to do that anytime soon
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>>107591239
Holy fuck, you are so wrong. lmao
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>>107591180
Maybe actually go read literally any recent article on the subject. Data centers are currently buying massive amounts of HDDs for bulk data storage.
Will you next assert data centers gobbling HBM has no effect on DDR availability or something simillarly goofy?
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>>107591250
avoid Quantum Dot if you care about text clarity
CRT has burn in too but people never complained because they used their brain when using a computer
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>>107591180
>tmw you think your 50tb of storage in mom's basement counts for a datacentre
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>gigabyte X870E aorus elite
The picture is from the manual and the actual connectors.
As far as I can tell, it does not state whether I need to plug in both of these (or which one). But, I assume, since they both have the foolproof square/beveled connector pattern, they are both exclusively for CPU.
Using a second one is for overclocking, right? I can just choose either 4x2 connector slot and leave the other unplugged?
I do not really intend to overclock the CPU.

https://youtu.be/_cs6s-UFqGA?t=750
This is a different version of the same motherboard, so slightly different, but he connects 4x2 + 4x1.
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>>107591263
I guess those two years of shredding hundreds of sata HDDs a day where just imaginary
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>>107591180
wrooong lol lmao omega wrong, fucking clueless levels of wrong, absolutely unaware.
Most and by that I mean 99.98% of global HDD production is directly consumed by the gaping sata holes of the datacenters swarm and then going straight into the shredder without ever experiencing consumer touch
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>>107591279
No current am5 cpu needs the 2nd plug so yeah just leave 1 unplugged.
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>>107591274
So get something like the Asus XG27AQDMG?
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>>107590337
>8 pins = 150W
>12 tiny pins = 600W
sure, nvidia
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>>107591131
>>107591216
OLED is only the best in terms of visual quality. in terms of longevity it gets annihilated by IPS. OLED will degrade over the years, losing both brightness and vibrance as well as experiencing burn in if you're using static imagery (such as a windows taskbar for example). IPS doesn't degrade other than the LED's maybe losing some peak brightness over many years of use but nothing like OLED.

>>107591250
they definitely are. OLED will always degrade, lose brightness and gets burn in. it is inherent to the technology. you gain superior quality and perfect blacks vs IPS, but you lose longevity. my parents bought a high-end OLED from LG some years ago (TV) and when i ran a screen test this year the entire center had significantly faded (oval pattern, spreading out) and there was burn in of TV logo's in the corners (not too bad actually, the brightness fading in the center of the screen was much worse). meanwhile my IPS monitor from that same era hasn't changed one bit, which is obvious if you know how they work.
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>>107591159
5060ti should be fine for 1440p60

For 1440p120+ you probably will want a 5070+
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>>107591279
There's no harm plugging in both if your psu has the cables for it. It helps keep the cable running cooler and reduce voltage droop if you have both installed
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>>107591159
Even if you stick with 1080p consider a 4k monitor with 1080p mode if you can spring for it.
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>>107591311
4 trillion dollar company btw
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sometimes when I get drunk as fuck and order random shit off of amazon. occasionally I don't even realize that the packages are mine for a long time, since my GF is a total wacko when it comes to online shopping, and despite having like 8x the amount of clothing I have she keeps buying new shit in large quantities -- I learned to ignore random shit lying around
anyway, I apparently bought 4x 64GB ddr5 in august which I discovered yesterday. I don't even know what I wanted to do with those since I have two desktops and a high end laptop, none of which needs more ram

tldr see you in the french riviera, poorfags
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In the market for a new rig. In an effort to not sit on my hands any longer and start piecing this out, should I buy these four "Deals" before they get more expensive? Budget 2500-3k for full rig.
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>>107591365
>anyway, I apparently bought 4x 64GB ddr5 in august which I discovered yesterday
damn wtf, you can retire now
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>>107591313
So if I'm not in a bright enough room to offset IPS' inherent issues there are literally 0 good options?
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>>107591038
>>107591052
I just bought the mATx board as i wanted an air cooler cause my gou is expensive and don't want to be paranoid of leaks. Should be here tomorrow otlr saturday. Very happy man now.
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OH FUCK ITS ABOUT TO BURST
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>>107591365
damn that is like 3-5k+ and who knows how much if you wait till peak shortage
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>>107591131
>oled
meme, remains to be seen whether fapple figures something out with muh tandel oled but for now it's not a long-haul option
>IPS
>mini-led
they're okay but blacks suck. there's some decent miniled panels coming out right now and soon, I'd probably get one of those
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It occurs to me. Are AI datacenters using magnetic tape ala IBM 3592? I know the cloud hyperscalers are using it, but I dunno how much storage volatility factors in for AI companies.
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>>107591449
tapes are for backups because they're inherently meant for sequential reading. ai sloppers prefer HDD for capacity and SSD for speed, there is -some- tape usage but it's way less compared to hdd/ssd
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>>107591250
>text clarity
I can see text pretty clearly on my 4k 27" 240Hz asus pg27ucdm oled monitor.
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>>107591449
buy more HDD to shred more HDD is the current AI policy, I am not joking.
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>>107591368
there were some bundles in this and previous threads, you should look into them.
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>>107589991
>and finally 600W GPUs
that would be 800w *
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>>107591171
thats what im hoping for. honestly, Im just gonna upgrade my current setup it'll be "cheaper" the dream of the ultimate PC dies i guess, i wont be able to afford the 5K it'll cost in 6 months to build a power PC.

What im really worried about is personal power PCs dieing.
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>>107591570
>melts your motherboard, gpu and psu
Psssh… Nothin Personnel… Kid…
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>>107589061
You want at least 5070 base. 5060ti if all you play is older I guess
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>>107591349
>4k monitor
Why do people insist on 4k

It's gonna look tiny on anything less than 32 inches

Most streaming use 1080p standard so all your videos will look terrible

You won't be able to run AAA games over 30fps even with a 5090

etc.
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>>107591571
it won't but we will have apocalyptic levels of prices for 2 years and shitty prices for 5 years.
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>>107591606
1440p is king. Best of both worlds
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Yes, I'll just wait. The best part is I can even afford to wait. Fuck you Gayvidya and GayMD, not like you're giving me anything different anyway.
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>>107591606
>>107591619
everyone is using DLSS4/FSR4. quality mode at 4k is 1440p so you get the performance of it but better quality than a native 1440p display.
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>>107591625
Your FPS is still going to tank

Also framegen is a meme. Having those extra frames is pointless when your game feels like floaty trash.
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>>107591621
>uses snakeoil to cope
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>>107591606
>Why do people insist on 4k
better quality???? duh
and considering TVs have the best displays you need more res for higher sizes
considering most monitors the only premium option being oleds you need even more res to avoid the downsides
applefags were right, applefags won, retina ppi is the way, 5k 27" 6k 32" minimum for oleds
unless they ofcourse get the true RGB subpixels going

>Most streaming use 1080p standard so all your videos will look terrible
goyslopper detected
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>>107591625
>quality mode at 4k is 1440p
isn't this kinda retarded cause the scaling from 1440p to 4k is a decimal number? I tried DLAA on 1440p and while it looks better here and there than some other crappy AA implementations I couldn't stand the smearing that rarely occured.
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>>107591606
>Why do people insist on 4k
my shitty macbook renders fonts that look like total garbage on non-retina screens and I'm a cuck who has to deal with it since muh battery life
it's actually amazing how fapple has a dedicated hdmi output so you can connect to every display made in the last 15 years but text on 95% of them looks like shit
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>>107591596
matrix drops the wattage per connector to 4090 levels and is much safer than any other 5090
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>>107591652
your fps tanks running native because all the work is done on your shader units instead. with DLSS4/FSR4 the work is offloaded to the tensor cores/ai accelerators freeing the cuda cores\stream processors for 3d work.

reflex+gsync & antilag2+freesync negates the latency penalty.

>>107591656
the output resolution is still 4k which looks better than 1440p.
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>>107591508
Thanks, I just looked over the past 3 threads and googled a few of the bundle offerings but couldn't find any concrete sales that haven't already ended.
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it's not very often you get detailed good quality burn in reports

https://youtu.be/lwQ1oCHt5NA

>detailed use case and hours used
>13600 hours use case from stimmer/speedrooner on LG C2 tv over 3 years 5 months
>8,5~h a day
>kinda burned in line due to him keeping a window there in gray test patterns
>not noticable in normal content still
>how long time until it becomes unusable/annoying in regular content?
(pic not relate)
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>>107591570
Wish I have waited and buyed this instead... I will never have matrix GPU it's fucking over
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>>107591730
>1000 units
It's literally unobtainable anyway
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>>107591696
Who the fuck is this mongoloid?
Just check monitors unboxed. He's running burn in series on oled monitors for 21 months now.
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>>107591696
>Hidden Windows taskbar
Yeah, worthless then as far as I'm concerned. His game's window top bar did show burning, so I don,'t even want to know what it does with the taskbar.
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>>107591742
What's the point of making PC hardware if it's hard limited anyway?
Kinda the antithesis of the market no?
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Hello a while ago i asked for monitor recs and now soon ish (like in january) i will get a new one so are there any cool ones for like 150euros and less ?
Last time recs were: (i know there is site in op but i want to hear what (you) think)
LS27DG500EUXEN,Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQL3A,LG 27GS75Q-B and Dell Alienware AW2725DM
Pic related are PC specs (regions are Germany,Serbia and Hungary)
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>>107591570
I'm a bit pissed that they released like three months after I build the BTF components but my Astral works just fine as well
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>>107591767
probalby because nvidia doesnt want asus to produce a defacto 5090ti in high quantities and upstage the eventual 5090ti/titan blackwell if nvidia ever decides to launch one
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Who will be first to make a kilowatt consumer GPU?
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>>107591696
>it's not very often you get detailed good quality burn in reports
His report is basically the same as every other report out there and mathces my own experience.
>kinda burned in line due to him keeping a window there in gray test patterns
Just stop putting a window there and in a couple months the line goes away. C2 burn-in masking can take a while on minor loclaized burn-in if you don't actively try to trigger it (by causing more burn-in, not just by running background checks manually).
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Trying to find a monitor for video / photo editing and some gaming. decided on getting a budget mini-led, but it's a hard choice to decide between the XIaomi g27 pro, AOC Q27G3XMN/BK, and KTC M27T6.
Leaning more towards the KTC but I wonder if IPS mini-leds are 'better' than HVA in my case. Also, the only way I can purchase the ktc is through aliexpress, which I have no experience with, but the price and ratings look really tempting. Poland btw
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>>107591742
>watch american yt'er boast about he got one of two samples avaiable in entire north america
>look at local eu retailer in tiny country
>10+ in stock
burgers claim they are so rich but get no supply
eu poorfags are the only one that can afford 5000€ gpu
brutal!

>>107591750
>Who the fuck is this mongoloid?
a random guy with good input
>Just check monitors unboxed
they are referenced in the video, completely different monitor and different tech
>He's running burn in series on oled monitors for 21 months now.
and that shit is burning in faster than the woled teevee
you are acting like you have to choose
your goyslop mind cannot handle other sources than mainstream techtubers
HUB are msi dicksuckers and refuse to acknowledge critical flaws in the products and monitors and do not call out retardation
literal dicksuckers
if anything I value non mainstream techtube dicksuckers subjective usage opinions than techtubers that just regurgitate a paid fucking ad and do basic bitch testing, I can check rtings for that
FIGHT THE GOYSLOP MIND

>>107591764
faint burn in that is undetectable in regular use still
if anything dead pixels will be more of a problem in 5 years than burn in

>>107591777
kind of a nothingburger and just cost more though so
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does a 4th gen OLED really last that much longer or should I get a 3rd gen one?
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>>107591806
NVIDIA
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>>107591840
>literally shows flaws
>NOOOOO! THEY REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT!
What the fuck is wrong with you
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new bread?
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>>107591874
im on a timer sry
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>>107591855
27" 4k qdoleds have 5 layers instead of 3 and will last longer but they also look better
so yes you should buy them over 32" counterparts

>>107591867
not referring to burn in and that is not the worst thing about oled monitors at all
and no I am not gonna elaborate any further to spoonfeed you
keep sucking techtuber cock
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>2TB 549 PLN CX400's out of stock
FUCK
WHY DID I HESITATE
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>>107591935
What you're on about? Videos about oled burn in and how bad it gets literally show oled burn in and how bad it gets. That's the entire point of those videos you imbecile.
I don't give a shit about their other channels or videos. But there's literally nothing wrong with videos showing oled burn in.
How the fuck you're so obsessed that you get triggered so much? Mentally ill retard holy shit.
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I know I got cucked by the RAM, but I think this is about as good a deal as I could get today.
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>>107591965
you missed the point, just disregard and suck the techtuber cock
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>>107591692
>the output resolution is still 4k which looks better than 1440p.
Because of fake signal. The one real case from high-fps, competitive gaming, is a bad place to have fake visual data.
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>>107591980
Give at least 1 reason what is wrong with burn in videos? They do what they're supposed to do.
You're literally obsessed with some faggots that you can't think clearly once you see them mentioned.
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How bad are miniLED VA viewing angles for productivity?
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>>107591838
>Trying to find a monitor for video / photo editing and some gaming. decided on getting a budget mini-led, but it's a hard choice to decide between the XIaomi g27 pro, AOC Q27G3XMN/BK, and KTC M27T6.
>Leaning more towards the KTC but I wonder if IPS mini-leds are 'better' than HVA in my case. Also, the only way I can purchase the ktc is through aliexpress, which I have no experience with, but the price and ratings look really tempting. Poland btw
Ordering off Ali is fine (I've done it several times) and the KTC would be my choice as well of the VA based options if you went that route. For Mini-LED IPS vs Mini-LED VA, it basically comes down to whether you value contrast most at the cost of narrower viewing angles and some black smearing aka inverse ghosting in gaming. Personally, I don't think the tradeoff is worth it in your case since you have a mix of use cases and IPS is a better all-purpose display tech. IPS does have panel glow but the Mini-LED local dimming compensates for it to a large degree but still has more blooming than a VA panel will (see webm).

Also you can see head-to-head benchmark comparisons of the AOC Q27G3XMN/BK vs. Xiaomi g27 Pro here:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/xiaomi-g-pro-27i-vs-aoc-q27g3xmn/71604/41611

One thing I might recommend is if you can spring for a 27" 4K panel it would really improve your editing experience with the extra digital real estate for Content + Window/GUI management and overall sharpness with a higher pixel density for the same physical area.
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I must applaud MSI for at least having the decency to make the FentUS 3X shroud easy to take apart without voiding the warrranty and WOW that is a sad bloody heatsink for a dual slot 150-200W card. This could have easily been a single slot GPU.

WHY THE FUCK DID I NOT DESHROUD THIS 4 YEARS SOONER AND ZIP TIES SOME BETTER FANS?!? OR BETTER YET RETURNED IT???
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>>107591978
The cheapest I can see that RAM anywhere else is $550+, so I'd say that's a solid deal in today's fucked up RAM market.
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>>107592086
whats wrong w/ it
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>>107592090
>>107591978
Forgot pic

They WERE like $200-250 not more than 2-3 months ago, but still a good deal for today.
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>>107591978
Eh, not too bad
Look up buildzoid's 24gbit m-die 6000cl30 timings and you're good to go
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>>107592004
>Give at least 1 reason what is wrong with burn in videos?
how did you land on this conclusion when I posted one in the first place

>You're literally obsessed with some faggots
they are literally testing a different tech all together (qdoled monitor vs woled tv)

plus yes they are faggots they are paid and sponsored by companies which they cannot discuss and intentionally withhold negative information about product, they are faggots and not an authority on anything
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>>107592102
The fans suck ans are loud as balls, limited to 30% minimum speed even though the cooler is literally capped by the heatsink. It makes no sense to run the 90mm fans at 1450 RPM, the two 100mm fans on the 2X were probably quieter. At the same time if this was the cooler from my 290X it would have probably been almost passive.
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>>107592071
Not that anon but my use case is more or less the same, any recommendations for 27" mixed usage displays below around $400 or so? I guess IPS would be my only real option there? On a 4070 so 4K is probably out of the question
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>>107592111
Yeah I planned to do 6000Mhz 28-36-36-30 at 1.35V. But i'll research more and see what others are doing first.
>>107592105
>>107592090
Thanks, yeah the RAM looked like a good price considering they had 2x16GB kits that cost just as much or more.
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>>107592118
All you did was bitching about them being paid shills.
Burn in videos do exactly what they're supposed to. If you want to check how bad burn in gets on oleds after certain amount of time it's good source. Prove me wrong.
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I have choice paralysis over cooler and psu...
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>>107592130
You'd need to get very lucky for 1.35v to work. Expect 1.4-1.45v for cl28 though you can even go up to 1.5-1.6v if you have a fan blowing at the ram
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>>107592156
Cooler: cheaper is better
PSU: Cybenetics
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>>107592157
Well it's a high airflow (relatively) case (Corsair 750D Airflow) with 5x 140mm Noctua fans, so I could maybe push 1.5V just due to the airflow, but we'll find out.

I'm not building until tomorrow anyway as I'm waiting on the NH-D15 to show up.
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is it the fate of all $2000+ dollar rigs to end up as enterprise-grade youtube machines
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>>107589820
They're made in Korea too anon
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>>107592220
For me it's fortnite and gacha games.
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>>107592220
I've been playing PSO.
The 5080 handles it very well.
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>GPU heatsink sits so low I literally could have attached full height 120mm fans and it wouldn't have gone past 2.2 slote
Are you fucking KIDDING ME, this is so insulting. Why the fuck didn't I think about spending an afternoon to check deshrouding this piece of shit years sooner when it would have probably made things so much quieter and helped my sanity? It literally lines up perfectly with 120mm fans, save for the end of the heatsink.

Now I just need to order a fan splitter and figure out the impossible task of removing the jtec connectors from the PCB...
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>>107592198
its not quite the same. having a dedicated fan blowing at the ram reduces temps by 10C over simply having case fans blow air around it
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>>107592295
you could probably sandwich a 80mm fan in there and it'd span the full length of the card and look much cleaner
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>>107592328
It would probably have to be two 60mm fans in a grid at the end.
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>>107591368
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pBFysp

Roast me bros... should I do it? This still puts me in my budget.
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>>107592355
looks good
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>>107592319
looks like I should be able to do 6000MT 30-36-36-30 1.4V without too much difficulty and without needing direct airflow for cooling.
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>>107592355
How are you getting the ram so cheap? Is the crisis over?
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>>107592125
>Not that anon but my use case is more or less the same, any recommendations for 27" mixed usage displays below around $400 or so? I guess IPS would be my only real option there? On a 4070 so 4K is probably out of the question
I'd still recommend a 4K model as you can always use 1440p DLSS or turn down in-game settings if FPS is a bit low. Since a monitor typically carries with your system through many years of upgrade cycles you don't want it to be your bottleneck vs. the PC's guts. Currently the KTC M27P6 (4K MiniLED-IPS) for $425 is unbeatable for value:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VHQwrH/ktc-m27p6-270-3840-x-2160-160-hz-monitor-m27p6
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-m27p6-review/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JranOxeRXHc

If you still want a 1440p monitor with MiniLED-IPS there are slim pickings:
https://www.displayninja.com/mini-led-monitor-list/
Of those options with a decent LED count @ 27" (>1000 zones) your best bet is probably the Xiaomi G Pro 27i @ $368:
https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Mini-LED-2560x1440-Freesync-Adjustable/dp/B0DBYPQY8F
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/xiaomi/g-pro-27i
Though you also might just shelve the MiniLED @ 1440p and get a normal 1440p Budget Fast-IPS like ASRock PG27QFT1B which is currently sitting at $137:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LfzXsY/asrock-pg27qft1b-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-pg27qft1b
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>>107589820
Made in Korea
From Amazon, returned heatsink versions when they sent the wrong ones
Buy/ship Amazon only
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>>107592220
>no ecc
not enterprise grade
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>>107592489
ayyymd has unregistered ecc
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Wife not a fan of the PC room with the kids, she says she feels alone…

All of the kids and me come stay in that room for recreation…

She gonna make me get rid of it isn’t she…
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>>107592542
add another pc in the room for her to play on
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>>107592542
Look bro, I don't want to armchair psychiatrist you but are you sure you and the kids go there for fun, or to escape your wife? Move the PC in the living room then. If the wife says no, or you stop having fun because you're not in a room away from your wife then it's the wife that's the problem.
You should be sharing your house with your wife. If she has say in the majority if the rooms then is it really sharing a house or you living with her?
Good luck bro, this is why I don't want to get married, ever.
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>>107592542
pop another one into her or you are in trouble
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you guys kept telling me to wait and it just kept getting worse and worse
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>>107592617
:D
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I can get a brand new RTX 4080 (not Super) for $700. Is this a good deal and will I have problems with a i5-12400 and 32GB of DDR4 at 4K?
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>>107592617
bullshit, this thread was shouting at everyone to buy since summer and aseptically so since october
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If my GPUs firmware or bios limits my fan speed to a 30% minimum, is that usually a fixed RPM number or the percentage of any fan I plug into the PCB? For instance, if I plug in some 1200 RPM PWM fans instead, will they run at a lower RPM than say, MSI's stock torx fans?
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>>107592622
Is it an FE? If it's really new then it's a good price. If it's an FE model then it's still lower than the average price.
If it was me and I need the upgrade I would get it.
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>>107592650
>or the percentage of any fan
This.
Doesn't matter if it's a 140mm fan or am 80mm fan. It will be 30%.
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>>107592605
Can’t move the pc to the living room because all the wiring is done in this room, she likes the sofa cause it comfy and i’ve explained to her about the home networking issue but it goes through her head.

Plus she has stated the kids and I are too loud she can’t watch her shows before we had the room, so I don’t get the winning choice here.
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>>107592654
It is an FE, yes. I'd be upgrading from a 3070 which really isn't cutting it, even with DLSS.
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just sold a kit of ram to the most salaryman looking man i've ever seen in my life
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>>107592673
>I'd be upgrading from a 3070
You plan on selling that 3070? They're around $200 So in reality you're only spending $500 for the 4080. I would honestly get it. Used 4080s are $750. FE is apparently $850 so I was wrong there.
If you can afford it, get it. It's a really good price.
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>ram got too hot and pc crashed
Remember to add that ram fan folks!
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>>107592736
That happened to me too, I just lowered the overclock and voltage
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>>107592736
Or just don't have shitty little hot boxes you guys buy

That's why I buy fucking full towers
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>>107592800
proof?
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>>107588686
so i was thinking about finally buying a gpu before the market implodes again. i play on 1080p, maybe i could think about later upgrading to 1440p but that's a big maybe
anyways, my options now are
asus prime or sapphire pulse rx 9070 for 600€
windforce or ventus 2x rtx 5070 for about 600€
gygabyte radeon or asus prime or sapphire pulse rx 9070 xt for about 700-720€
what would you suggest? best bang for buck should be the 9070 (not xt) but at the same time I worry not getting nvidia dlss could fuck me over as globogayming seems to be always sucking nvidias cock, sometimes not releasing fsr like expedition 33 not releasing fsr4
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>>107593005
Get 3 fans if you care about noise and thermals
Look up to hardware or pcpower charts for temp and noise comparisons for brand
Use ChatGPT or fine print for warranty lengths
Then quickly buy asap and don't let it sit - use it asap to check for coil whine or problems so you can exchange or RMA within window
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>>107593047
tomhardware*
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>OLED doesn't burn in anymore
>OLED lasts 3-5 years
Who do I trust?
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>>107593105
your wallet and not the wallet shark (jew)
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the nvidia gpu cutback rumor has caused me to panic buy
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>>107593105
OLEDs do burn in, but monitors now have ways to prevent it. Every 4-8 hours, they just need to run a "cleanup" process that takes just 30 minutes.
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>buy a 5090
>nvidia decides to stop making GPU's
Sorry guys looks like I was the last one
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>>107593123
does that really eliminate burn in?
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>>107593177
it just rapes all your other pixels to compensate. remindes of old crts that took a little to fully work. those monitors need a little time to shut down properly.
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>>107593177
Yes. It shifts the pixels and basically does the opposite of whatever they were displaying in order to undo the damage. Just run it after every gaming session and you'll be fine.
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>>107593118
This. Need to buy TODAY, because it's the last chance of a getting a GPU under $1000 for the next 10-20 years.
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>>107593105
You have to make sure the one you get has a clean process that shifts the pixels, and another process that will as stated earlier takes 30 minutes to reset it. Old OLEDs without the feature do burn in badly
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>>107593118
I bought a GPU about a week ago and now it has a several hundred dollar price increase
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Just boughted a 9070 XT and a 2TB nvme (you should too, the ssd I mean).
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what the FUCK is this shimmering and flickering in modern games if I don't use DLSS/DLAA about? What the fuck is that what is causing it.
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>>107593238
like with most things you can thank nvidia and lazy devs for that. enjoy your slop.
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>>107593238
It's a lack of TAA. You need it in most modern games because they built their entire lighting engine around it. If you disable it, the visuals become sharper, but you get shimmering/flickering. DLSS/DLAA are a better form of TAA. Use them in any game that forces TAA on to minimize TAA's blurriness.
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>>107593238
Because modern engines are build around temporal aa to hide a bunch or artifacts
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one last /pcbg/ QA check before i pull the trigger
total price is $2,074 w/ tax due to a micro center bundle
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>>107593238
All games are built around nvidia now, and are inheritly unoptomized
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>>107593283
217 case is Designed for work with RS not Edge PSuS
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>>107593194
wait it damages all pixels equally so the burn in doesn't show up as a visible shape?
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>>107593105
>>OLED doesn't burn in anymore
no one unless retarded says this
>>OLED lasts 3-5 years
most monitors have a 3 year warranty
LG G tv panels have a 5 year panel warranty
use/abuse panel swap/insurance policies to extend your burn in autism if you intend to destroy panels inherently

combine with stop being poor for maximum satisfaction

if you buy lcd, you buy pre-shit panels that are shit and continue to enshittify as they go on
you will fall fate of the lcd lasts forever-meme and your lcd panel will die prematurely or have a fuck up due you thinking you will get 15 years run time on that garbage
minileds don't last longer as they run panel hot as fuck and will be prone to getting destroyed too along with all the inherent shit problems they already have
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What the fuck

Why has nobody told me this ever

Is this true? 1440p is screwing me over worse than 1080p or even 4K would?
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>>107593308
Yes.
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>>107593177
>>107593201
>does the opposite of whatever they were displaying in order to undo the damage
Nope. You can't un-fuck the pixels that are already fucked.
What you can do is measure electrical resistance of each pixel one by one because it changes with burn-in, and dim the good pixels to match the bad ones.
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>>107593335
no refunds
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>>107593335
1440p is a garbage stepping stone resolution and nobody should ever use it.
1080p for low end. 4K for high end. That's it, ignore everything else.
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>>107593335
1440p has 2 paths
>povertymaxxing
27" 180hz IPS
>claritymaxxing
480-540hz 27" 1440p oled
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>>107593304
no RS in stock, guess i'll get corsair RM
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>>107593348
>>107593353
But they sell this to gamers specifically everyone says 1440p is sweet spot now you and the fucking AI are saying it's worst of both worlds

Oh my god I fucking hate computers so goddamn much
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>>107593375
sweetspot is such a gay fucking concept
native res is a meme
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>>107593335
Because it's not a clean division
Anyone with a brain has been saying this for a fucking decade
It's either 1080 or 4K bro
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>>107593375
1440p was always cope for people who couldn't run 4K.
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>>107593383
fuck off jen-hsun
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maybe I should have bought the last cheap 32gb 6000c30 kit from amazon after all
too low to be truly comfy, but more costs even more
the price of summers 64gb kits will forever haunt my nightmares
there will be no peace until ddr6 comes back
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>>107593398
Bring me back
Reminds me of my internship in the 00s at Hitachi GST
We need to go back
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>>107593434
>>107593434
>>107593434
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>>107593168
How are you going to get it replaced when the 12pin burns?
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>>107593341
that's smart
but oleds are already kinda dim, how much brightness do they lose per year from this?
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>>107593572
About 80-100 nits, which is why it's toast in 5 years.
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>>107593593
so a 300 nits screen lasts like 2 years?
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>>107591368
>msi psu
that's like lol
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>>107591690
yet I can't buy one, curious
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>>107593593
>>107593622
It will clip HDR peaks first and those are ~1000 nits
Typical home desktop is 120 nits
Basement dwellers often lower it to 80 nits
So it's closer to 10 years until if affects SDR desktop brightness
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>>107593670
that sounds good
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>>107593670
Oh but also if you only use it at low brightness it will degrade less, that 80-100 nits estimate is for living room TVs
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>>107593238
Lack of TAA. DLSS is required.
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>>107593838
>>107593838
>>107593838
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>>107593861
>>107593434
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>>107593880
I didn't see it because I have his posts filtered now



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