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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for LGA 1700 processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no more
Nvidia reducing production of 50 series gpus next year (https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-plans-heavy-cuts-to-gpu-supply-in-early-2026/)

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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>>107593838
>Building your own PC
Tinkertranny thread.
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>>107593838
>RGBs
Imagine the smell
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My be quiet 13M PSU came dented a board is visibly bent inside (ZERO damage on the box btw so most likely not a shipping issue)
What's the difference vetween RMe and RMx Cosair PSU's? Im sending this pile of shit back asap
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>>107593963
RMx is the better psu technically
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well the 850e I had sounded awful and the 850x I replaced it with is silent
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R8 the poorfag build I have in mind:
>Optiplex 9010 MT as base
>500W PSU
>RX 480 8GB
>16 GB RAM that comes with the Optiplex
The CPU in the Optiplex is an i5-3570, but it looks like I can swap it out with a Xeon E3-1280 v2 I have on hand; the sockets are the same, I think.

The only concerns I have are whether the GPU will fit, both in the case (not considering removing the drive bracket), and on account of the motherboard's layout (the RAM slots end up making contact with the GPU backplate in some builds I've seen).
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>>107594172
I should mention that I've already got the PSU and GPU (I'm the retard from one of the previous threads who didn't bother checking if the GPU would fit my mb).

I'm interested in that particular model of Optiplex for its Libreboot compatibility.

Although the Xeon is (presumably) compatible with the Optiplex mb, I don't know if the CPU fan it comes with will accommodate it, since in the PC I've got it in at the moment, it's got a heatsink and fan directing air towards it with a plastic cover. There might be issues with overheating.
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>>107594172
Most rx 480s should fit but you are going to be pretty close to the drive cage
Cooling requirements of sandy bridge isn't crazy or anything, just about anything will do it.
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Waitfags lost
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>>107594348
They've been losing non stop for like ever
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Upgraded an old pc from a DDR3 8gb 4core AMD to a used 10th i5 6core + 32gb ram.
Now I'm eyeing a 3060 12gb because all other cards are shit 8gb overpriced bs.

If I get a good deal on the 3060 mi total for the base (mb cpu ram gpu) upgrade will be under $400.

Does /g/ aprove?
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>>107594318
It's a reference model; picrel.
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>>107594421
That low end the 8gb vs 12gb isn't going to be that big of a deal, you're better off just lowering texture or shadow settings or something in the 3 games that can rape 8gb at 1080p, and then going too far into the future none of the gpus at the price point are necessarily "future-proofed" at all
If you have the psu for it consider a 2080ti or a 3070.
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>>107594427
>>107594172
Max length for a gpu without removing the drive bracket is like 165mm
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>>107594427
https://www.reddit.com/r/lowendgaming/comments/gyer2p/optiplex_7010_mt_max_video_card_length/
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>>107594475
The VRAM is mostly for light AI sloppa, since I play mostly older games that have no problem at all with a 3060.

My first option was a used 1070 for about $80-100 but there's no good deals at that price. And the card itself its too old for my usecase.

Then I bumped the budget to $200-250 that could get me either a 3060 12gb or a 8gb 3070

Also eyed the 5060 8gb but again, VRAM, and the price new is $380, at that point I'm no longer doing a budget upgrade. Not to mention the pcie 5.0 8x of the 5060 would have to fit in a pcie 3.0 16x
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>>107594547
It's ~240mm; I'll have to remove the bracket. I was hoping for easy drive installation.

I should've gone with an RX 580 8GB instead. I got it relatively cheap, so I guess I can't complain. Mine doesn't have an analog output unfortunately.
>>107594556
All Optiplexes have the same dimensions? There's a 9020 in my area as well, which is libreboot compatible too, so I think I'll go with that instead, barring complications with libreboot not found on the other model.
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>>107594579
maybe try looking at a 7800xt instead? they do AI aswell, on an open source platform, but Linux OS is recommended, so only for the true time-wasters.
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>>107593963

maybe it is pretensioned to minimize wibrations
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>>107595777
That's a $600+ card anon. I'm not trying to build a high end up to date pc, i'm keeping a 2010s pc alive by upgrading it to 2020s
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>>107595851
Way back when the 10 series cards released I was a broke teen and desperately wanted to upgrade my PC. I found a for parts EVGA GTX 780 Ti for $15 at a flea market. I decided to try my luck and mailed it into EVGA to try and warranty the card. I thought for sure they’d send it back unfixed because I didn’t have proof of purchase and it was several years old at that point.

To my surprise they replaced the card and sent it back to me. I was an EVGA fanboy ever since. Really sad they exited the GPU scene. I’ve got my EVGA 3090 going strong, I plan on keeping it until it dies.
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The amount of people who don't seem to realize this is it, the last chance to buy cheaper pc parts, is staggering.
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>>107595923
the truth is normies don't actually care about anything and just pretend to have emotions
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>>107593838
sir, is there a reason for splitting the general? you didn't even link to the correct previous thread. if there's no reason, I'll simply assume that you shill for the brands in OP
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what is an open loop?
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$100 for 2tb sata ssd? Yes or nah?
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Best manufacturer for 5070 ti?
I've read that gigabyte aero has\had thermal grease leaking and unbalanced fan issues. I'll be buying online so I can't afford this lottery
pny capacitors were literally blowing up proven by igors lab
Currently looking at MSI Gaming Trio OC or ASUS TUF (Europe so I'll be dropping 850-900 on each, so price doesn't really matter)
both have coil whine but apparently MSI whines even during browsing. Would appreciate any advice.
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>>107596035
Nicos threads don't show up with my filters, so they don't exist to me
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>>107596166
evga
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>>107596166
All of them have issues if you're looking that deep. You have the option for a refund or rma if somethings up, use it and stop worrying about it.
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>>107596067
expensive meme
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>>107596035
>you shill for the brands in OP
Shilling for all of them at the same time?
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>>107596194
I don't have a time machine, should've mentioned
>>107596212
How does one stop worrying about CW noise when you're trying to read some article or do finances? Seems like a cuck's deal paying $1000 for that privilege.
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>>107596232
>CW noise
If you're that autistic about noise you need to just put it in a drawer or closet or something.
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>>107594421
>aprove
err, sure, for 400 bones you will get a nice bump

>also for your pic related i am so old that all of these - including the OG Motorola phone - have been in the grasp of my grubby tendie-greased fingers at some point
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It's over. This is our last thread.

https://www.club386.com/motherboard-sales-reportedly-collapsing-amid-rising-dram-prices/

>According to a report by Gazlog, the likes of Asus, Gigabyte, and MSI are reporting a decrease in motherboard sales in the region of 40-50% compared to the same period in 2024. Considering we’re in the run-up to the holidays, with events like Black Friday typically driving up consumer purchasing, it’s safe to presume this drop represents a substantial number of units.
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>>107596185
didn't stop you from linking to this thread in the previous thread
>>107596231
maybe only some of them. idgaf
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>be me
>be a poorfag
>builds an AM4 setup a year ago
>market starts shitting itself 4 months later
I will use my 5700X3D until it melts.
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>>107595917
Heh, a little scummy but you made it out. Limited assets always makes you resourceful.

>>107595923
We are in the panic price peak IMO. I don't think the situation is as catastrophic as they want it to look

>>107596302
Time flies...
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>>107596250
worthless reply honestly
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>>107596166
Coil whine appears to be dice roll as well, but I don't think its as prevalent as the message boards make it seem. Selection bias or whatever. For current gen, Gigabyte is the only AIB partner that I know of with actual problems like you mentioned. I Didn't know about PNY.
I've been told they all have bad customer service but my one experience trying to RMA a GPU was with MSI. I was getting some fan rattle at/near full PWM with my 4080 Ventus. Maybe within 24 hours of submitting a ticket, they sent me instructions to send it in for RMA. During that time I switched it from vertical to standard PCIE mount and hoped that would be easier on the bearings. It worked out, and I never sent my card in. So I'm not sure how smooth the RMA process would've gone, and I suppose maybe MSI uses cheap bearings in their "entry" level SKUs? That's all the info I can give.
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Anyone have Lian Li PSU? Are they reliable?I have the Lancool 207 case so I'm thinking about buying their L shape PSU instead of a RMx850 for easier cable management
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>>107596166
I have the 5080 Aorus and have no problems with the thermal shit leaking out, card is mounted horizontally. I don't know if they even put it on the 5070 models. The temps are great but i have no idea if this shit will last (mines only half a year old). you get 4 year warranty if you register the card online so there's that at least. not sure if anyone else does this, ASUS and MSI maybe but you'd have to check.
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>>107597147
most PSU's are not made by the brand that's selling them. a lot of corsair PSU's are made by Super Flower Computer Inc. for example. they just slap their own brand on it. the only PSU company that actually makes their own shit is seasonic.
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>>107597192
Yeah i know, checked the spredsheet and it's listed as A tier so I'm buying it
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can someone rec the smallest cheap case a 2080 can fit into?
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>>107597384
MONTECH AIR 903 MAX
Used to be in the OP
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>>107597158
It's Reddit FUD. The thermal goo works well and keeps vram temps low
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>>107597447
>80€
jesus.
thanks anyway.
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Get your 5090 before the end. It will be the last plug and play GPU that will be supported
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>>107597511
What if I already have one. Should I buy another for backup!
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Who makes really good pump-reservoir combos for watercooling?
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>>107597599
I have lots of Alpha Cool stuff and they seem to have good quality.
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Has anyone actually bought very good gpu "untested" on an auction and it actually worked?
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>>107597795
if its ebay its money back guaranteed if it doesnt work if it isnt listed as not working.
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>>107597805
what about yahoo
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>>107597833
they should be able to help but if that fails thats what chargebacks are for
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>>107593838
u could have at least rotated my image...
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>>107597863
can you try to get your money back even if they tell on the description they won't accept returns even if it isn't operational or missing parts?



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