>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand*Prices have increased for LGA 1700 processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being releasedNova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"AMD Redstone announced, RDNA4 exclusive, [YouTube] Introducing AMD FSR "Redstone" - ML-Enhanced Performance and Immersion (embed) [Embed]Micron consumer memory and storage (Crucial) is no more>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:>>107599478>>107599881Previous:>>107593838
Do I need to upgrade GPU NOW, if I was thinking of upgrading in the next 6-9 months? Are GPU prices going to shit the bed as well starting next year?
Should I switch to an aio or does this look fine?
>>107601346>9800x3d removed cuz "muh value"The best gaming cpu should be in the OP just like 5090 is in the OP even though it's a luxury item>9060 XT 16GB and 9070 absent for no reasonJust blatant nvidia shilling kill yourself
stupid waitfags
>oh husbant you lied to me. you told me rtx 4090 has no driver issues.
If you have a microcenter nearby, check their RAM available.I snagged a 2x24GB 7600MHz CL36 kit for $360 (2x16GB CL36 kits were $340+). And the only reason the 2x24GB kit was that cheap is because no one buys 7600Mhz RAM (too slow for Intel, too fast for AMD). But you can manually adjust the frequency/timings for 6000Mhz CL30, even though they're selling 2x24GB CL30 kits for $500+.I grabbed the last one in stock at my store, but I saw online their other locations still had stock.
so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
>>107601393calm your tits, its an old version of the OP and nobody actually reads these things
>>107601403anything labeled as gaming memory is usually hynix and thats the most best ic.
>>107601399first thought>she's going to stab him to death and he's going to bleed the fuck out on the floorsecond thought>wtf why doesn't he fucking beat the shit out of her?
Can i use a single 12V-2x6+2 cable for my 9070 xt which needs 2x8 pin?be quiet is dogshit and it only came with this and a pigtail onePSU is be quiet Pure Power 13 M btw
>>107601346Stop putting the RTX 5070 TI in the 4K tier. It's a GPU meant to crush most tasks in 1440p, not muh 4K. If you have the money for a 4k monitor with high refresh rates, you're going to have to shell out a lot more money for a good graphics card or you will be disappointed. A 9950X3D is a decent compromise between a workstation CPU and one that does non-workstation tasks, but it's not a workstation CPU, that would be something like a threadripper or ${INTEL_EQUIVALENT}.
>>107601404Is this an epic linux meme? Never had any issue on windows
>>107601437just build a nvidia pc
>>107601393>The best gaming cpu should be in the OPthe 9950X3D is there>>107601431crucial labels their "pro" DDR5 as gaming and overclocking memory, both of which are blatant liesyou need to look at all the timings, no other way to find out if a kit is guaranteed hynix or not
>>107601442its a copypasta to spread nvidia FUD and derail the thread into an nvidia vs amd flamewar
I'm at a loss. 5090 Astral for damn near four grand and the drivers just won't fucking work. Every game I open works for a few minutes then just a blackscreen. Help me pls.
>>1076013939950x3d is the best one, fuck you gaymer
>>1076014395070ti and 9070xt are 4k in the sense that you're going to be turning on DLSS4\FSR4 quality mode (1440p) on a 4k display
>>107601346I'm retarded, where do I start when it comes to learning about building a pc? I tried watching youtube vids, but those niggas keep giving me ads about how a certain part is so great. So I'm not confident in their advice not being biased.
>>107601464buy a prebuilttake it apartbuild it againtake the ram outreturn it without ramsell rambuy the parts missing other than ram>????profit
>>107601451At 7600mhz on 24GB DIMMs it basically has to be Hynix M-die (2nd Gen).
Love how the OP says to leave suggestions for how to improve the thread but the ignorant dickhead that bakes the thread actually doesn't give a shit and just ignores and won't change anything like putting the 9800x3d or 9060 xt 16gb back in the OP because he'd rather push his biases and opinions on everyone then just listing the current options
>>107601464If you're a visual learner there's a billion youtube videos to pick from.If you're a text learner then read the manuals that come with your parts or ask chatgpt.
>>107601464here's a classic guidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>>107601490Fuck you and your cheap ass parts, go big or go home, this isn't poor pc building general
>>107601464>but those niggas keep giving me ads about how a certain part is so great. So I'm not confident in their advice not being biasedlmao yeah not very hard to figure outcrazy how many people in this thread don't realize all techtuber videos are ads>>107601486yeah i knowbut don't look at the label as a source of truthif they can get away with shady shit they will>>107601490nicotroon melty
>>107601508>nicotroon melty>Everyone that's mad I won't be unbiased and list all the current gen options is this other no life troll im having a blood feud withFuck off. This thread isn't your kindergarten playground battles. It's for helping people build pcs. List all the options in a unbiased manner or don't bake the thread. No one cares that you think the 9800x3d is overpriced.
>>107601529No I will continue baking breads without editing themSeethe more, you entitled shit poster
>>107601529you can find all options by going to pcpartpicker and selecting "choose a CPU" or "choose a GPU"i don't think people have trouble finding out what parts they can buy, they have trouble finding out what parts they should buy
>>107601490Nobody actually reads the OP lol.
>>107601351>Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.>>107601547>No I will continue baking breads without editing themOK so you're just troll a ruining the thread then. Thank you for admitting it
>>107601547To be fair, you're the entitled one, it's "your" thread and you're the one with the ego that won't let this stupid "fued" you've been having end. I don't know how you can with a straight face try and claim it's SOMEONE else's ego that's the problem.
>>107601580we can tell you're just samefagging lol you're not as sneaky as you think troon
3090 or 5070 Ti for $150 more
>>1076015905070ti. 16gb is enough for a few years, its 30% faster and it uses 100W less>>107601586I don't think you know what "entitled" means
>>107601463I guess then it makes sense.
>>107601603... Do you?You think you're entitled because you made the thread.
>These models are not ATX 3.x and are not compatible with native 12VHPWR or 12V-2×6 cables.Is it over for me or can I still use their adapter with a 2019 Seasonic Focus PSU?
>>107601618...what? I don't expect anything of anyone posting in this thread unlike that anon who expects the OP to constantly update the OP and then get mad when his suggestions are being ignored. And I'm the entitled one? huh.
>>107601631Exactly, you think you're entitled to not update the OP because you've got some weird fetish fued going on.It's egotistical and trying to claim someone ELSE has an ego because they want you to keep the OP up to date with relevant information is just you gas lighting to prevent anyone from making the obvious conclusion, that you're an egotistical entitled cunt who thinks he "owns" the OP post because he's a terminally online autistic retard.
>>107601657Complete projection at worst or strawman at best. I don't own this OP nor claim to do so. Unless you think every OP is made by one person, lol
What's a good AM4 cpu (not the currently overpriced X3D aftermarket chip preferably, shit's like 400 dollars) to upgrade from a gen 1 8-core Ryzen, was gonna do a full upgrade to AM5 next year but with all the jewish AI shit happening decided to just hedge/buy some time, got a 5060ti 16gb on sale to upgrade my 1060, and thinking about what other patchwork upgrades I can do instead that will last 2-3 more years.
>>107601674used 5800X or new 5800XT, whichever is available at your price point
thank nvidia for giving you universal high income in the next decade
>>107601346>>-Native/High-end: 5090lol buy a 5090 to play 15 year old games at "native"no don't use ray tracingno don't use path tracingno don't use Frame GenerationSpend $2000 to play WoW and DotaI don't believe anyone in here is not using DLSS/DLAA the second they put on any modern slop
>>107601674If you want to cheap out, the 8-core 5700x is good. 5800x and 5800xt are higher binned versions of this chip and are also okay if they don't cost you too much more. Otherwise, the 16-core 5900xt is also a pretty nice option if you change your mind and want to stay am4 for a long time
>>107601671LolLmao evenYou're the same faggot that refuses to use or acknowledge other threads and will make your own even if another pcbg thread is up and claim you didn't know because you filtered that person, despite the fact you can't filter an anonymous poster linking to a new thread, you'd have seen the new thread linked, seen it (or have it get filtered, but only after you had seen it), and THEN you decided to make your own thread to "compete" because you're just such a well adjusted terminally online retard.Whatever cope helps you from eating a bullet another day I guess.
>>107601674are you one of those "gaymer gals" who will spend 9 thousand bucks on a rainbow-colored RGB GAMING CARD but won't spend 400 on the central processing unit for their computer.
it's over for sata SSDs2tb su650 out of stock now at 579 pln after the cx400 went out of stock at 549 plnWHY THE FUCK AM I STILL NOT BUYING
I am from Asia, and we are taught to always cool our pcs with warm water, especially when its hot well. I heard that in the US/Europe, people use ice water even in winter or when its cold. Is this actually true? Doesn't your pc freeze?
>>107601697That's not even me. See, you're literally creating an "enemy" within your own mind and projecting it onto others. Pretty schizophrenic behavior desu
>>107601706i live in the UK where it's neither too hot or too cold 99% of the time, so I don't even think about damaging cold or freezing liquids.
>>107601706we have an invention called air conditioning. you put your pc under the vent in your room.
>>107601706are you from a parallel asia or something? first i've heard of that
>>107601714nta but proof you do that in your house?
>The Crucial MX500 2TB (CT2000MX500SSD1) SSD has experienced significant price drops since its 2018 launch, ranging from a high of nearly \(\$500\) to lows around \(\$100-\$120\) in recent years. >Recent 2024 pricing has trended upward, often between \(\$150\) and \(\$210\), as the line has been discontinued.>Price History Highlights (USD)Lowest Price Ever: Approximately \(\$105-\$119\) (seen during major sales events in 2023).Highest Price: \(\approx \$499.99\) (at launch in January 2018).Typical 2024 Range: \(\$144-\$209\).Current Trend: Increasing due to the product being phased out.Key Data Points2024 Trends: The 90-day average price in late 2024 was around \(\$169\), with prices showing increased volatility.Third-Party Sales: Third-party sellers on Amazon have listed it as low as \(\$90.95\) (used) and \(\$105.65\) (new).>The drive was discontinued in late 2024,, with the company moving away from SATA in favor of faster NVMe options, which may impact future pricing.2024 was already too late for waitfags if they wantes cheap storage. If you want a 2TB SATA SSD with DRAM cache you can buy the Sandisk WD Blue at 200-250 dollars now.
>>107601464read a lot. ask questions like: what is a motherboard? what is SDRAM? how do people put RAM into computer? etc. and after a couple months you'll be prepared to build your own machine (assuming zero computer knowledge).
>>107601707It's very obviously you. You even didn't link to the actual last thread because again, you're a terminally online autistic retard with some weird fued.>>106442798>>107593443>>107593861>>107593936>I didn't see it because I have his posts filtered now It's so incredibly obvious that I'd be embarrassed, but you clearly have no shame since you're trying to deflect and pretend it wasn't actually you.
>>107601720this is extreme example but same principle. hot air goes up, cold air come in.
>>107601728I guess its schizo hour nowCarry on, schizo
>>107601726WD SN850X is okay too.$220 for 2TB/2GB DRAM$370 for 4TB/2GB DRAM
>>107601727oh to add to this. DO NOT neglect power. so many people skip learning about the basics of supplying power to parts and they fuck something up. it's not scary, you don't need to be an electrician do understand the very basics
>>107601731uhhh what the fuck?? where are the pipes going? is there a pump inside there? what about coagulation?
>>107601732>you're a schizo, I'm just the guy who has to go out of his way to perpetuate wrong information in the /pcbg/ OP because of some weird fued I've made up in my mind, and now I have to pretend that it wasn't me so other anons don't point out how retarded and schizo I am.As I said, whatever cope keeps you from blowing your brains out I guessI can't imagine that being my life though, lmao.
>>107601744Careful now, you're straying so far out from the real world that it'd soon be impossible to speak to you
fresh
>>107601750Shutup, I'm a professional irl, making 3 digits, and I'm still in my early 20s, meanwhile you are a fat bald bastard who can't even understand
>>107601756>fresh win10 in current yearanon...
>>107601750My guy, I'm a passerby. I've only been in these threads for 3 days as I'm upgrading my computer this weekend, and I can already tell you're the same person.
>$222 for 2TB SSD>$390 for 4TB SSDIs it even worth buying at this point when I bought 14TB HDDs new for $215 two or three years ago? That's just GPU or new CPU territory.
>>107601743its extreme example dont ask too much questions.the point is airflow. air comes into your room from your ac vents. if you want your pc to breathe put it near.
>>107601762win11 sux dik i only hope the kid i sold my pc to realizes that soon
>Samsung OLED G81SFplease, for the love of god, is this a good monitor that will last longer than a year from fucking oled burnin? or is there a better one?i just want a monitor that looks nice goddamni cannot stand backlights anymorei am getting older and my eyes hurt
>>107601351Based pic choice OPFor anyone wondering whether it’s worth getting a 5090 over a 5070 Ti, yes it very much is. The 5070 Ti manages to deliver only okayish FPS right now, but it’s already close to its limits. With just one more graphics update (or something similar), you’ll likely be forced to turn settings down or rely on DLSS. Considering the rumors that Nvidia is cutting back on consumer GPU production, upgrading later might not even be an option. On top of that, the 5090 could end up being the last GPU to fully support Windows 10
>107601796
>>107601796its true because5070ti = 5060ti5080 = 5070
>>107601794They're the same OS, W11 just has more updates for WDDM and similar under the hood shit.For modern gaming on modern platforms W11 is the obvious choice.
>>107601819yea and for everything else it just straight up blows i already have to put up with the damn thing 40/hr a week im not taking her home w/ me
Good game to test my new rog atral >>107601796 other than cyberpunk?
>>107601819>>They're the same OSlolit's got got the worst UX by far anyone that can stand using it only bothers to load up their computer to open steam and play games It's total trash and will only get worse as it shoves more AI shit inCopilot is retarded and defective and they want the whole OS to be built around it https://youtu.be/akIjZYPi1nQ?t=808
>>107601829NetHack in Alacritty.CDDA in Kitty.Spider and Web in TTY2
>>107601463Seeing how you need to do that with modern 4k games even with a 5800, I think the above anon is right. Look how shit it is in monster hunter wilds
Nice LARP >>107601829I mostly play War Thunder, Minecraft, and WoT, and I also use some uncensored models in LM Studio. It works fine for that.
>>107601886wilds is a outlier. re engine should be pic related.
>>107601796no shit 5090 is better its pulling 550-650w compared to 250w.
>>107601346i need help /g/ !i have calculated my current PC power draw at 100% and it's 560W (monitor included) so i was wondering, what UPS should i take to protect my PC ? my old one died so i need a new one ASAP but i will upgrade to an RTX 6070 Ti when it will be released (maybe in 2 years).considering my RTX 3070 eats 240W (it's an OC version) and the RTX 5070 Ti eats 300W (i'm guessing some OC's version take 20W more), that's at least a future power draw of 640W minimum.so what UPS wattage should i take ? is 700W too little ?
Thanks to the anon who told me to get a 5060ti at MSRP and overclock it. Got a stable 15% performance increase with some overclocking&undervolting, and it runs very cool.
>>107601957arent they measured in VA? like 3000VA meaning anywhere from 1500W (simulated sine wave) to 3000W (sine wave) or something
I just checked how much money I spent on useless shit (and need shit) because I moved and had to pay furniture and debts and shitI'm -3k€ from my savingsI literally could have built a pc instead of being a retardevery time I take out emergency money to pay for shit I also always say to mysellf I will have to compensate by saving and taking that shit out again, but I never did, the fucking expenses just keep piling upI'm so fucking sick of povertymaxxingget me OUT now AAAAAAAH HELP
>>107601957APC SY400K500DR-PD
>>107602115remember that communism doughnut work, the free market will fix it and sucking off rich people is based. hope that helps
should I panic buy an RTX 5070TI upgrading from a 4070scared of another shortage next year, I'm happy with my performance right now but I don't want to be unable to get a GPU if I'm not happy with it a couple years from now.
