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>>107761130>So what games are you playing with your expensive setup?Pic related for now.
What are your thoughts on the FLP02 case? Is it worth the hype? Is the airflow good?I kinda like the flip switch power button.
5070ti, 5080, 5090 MIA
>>107761366zoomers wanna pretend they have soul sooooo badthose pc cases were from my era, find your own shit fag
For me? It's cheating built into my monitor
I fomo'd and upgraded my entire pc. I feel sick to my stomach. I have not felt this level of fomo in years. Just said fuck it and bought a spare SSD too in case my current one decides to die sometime within the next 10 years.
>>107761374You can just say the case is too expensive for you, its an anonymous board nobody's going to know anyway.
>>107761409i have an o11d evo xl that costs twice as much as that shit case thoughever
>>107761404I love Pay2Win so much.
what is this sideways aussie posting in the op?
I built a new PC for her.
>>107761404lmao what the fuckvac bans to anyone using this monitor
How is this build?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TDKYpKMight swap the CPU choice to a 7700X (same price) or 9700X ($60 more) instead for better multitasking or experimenting with some AI code gen stuff.
>>107761448do yourself a favor and do not build in a micropenis case
>>107761404kek>>107761130elden ring... feel bamboozled sometimes>>107761366looks nothing like the prebuilts i grew up with thanks to the front grille and the power switch and keyhole definitely weren't a thing but they nailed the beige which is nice. looking at >>107761296 re: airflow i reckon it'd get a bit toasty since the side panel's completely closed off but nothing too severe. has support for 5.25" bays though, might consider one since i have some dvd drives laying around
>>107761448>7700X (same price)Are you sure you were looking at 7600X3D?It's only slightly cheaper than 7800X3D while being noticeably slower.
>>107761453Is it that bad to build in?Or for the temps? I can put in a 240 AIO instead
>>107761448I'd worry if the CPU cooler fits or not (check the allowed dimensions of your case), and if airflow is okay in that case design or not. Check some vids maybe. As for the CPU, could be cool to get a small upgrade for a little money if you'll make use of it, but you'll want to undervolt/etc a little regardless to keep temps down in the case, especially being on an air cooler instead of liquid cooling in a small chassis. Make sure your case allows ATX-size PSUs, maybe reconsider your cooler for an AIO, etc.
>>107761511pain in the ass to build in if you have normal sized hands + temps will be shit. if you are a small asian go for it
>>107761504>>107761442>>107761428>Upgrade AI - Gain access to a fully trainable AI model that you can train to fit your game-specific needs! These custom-trained AI models can then be uploaded to your monitor with a simple firmware update.
>>107761511Get a full tower. Believe me, your components will thank you later. Micro shit and itx kill the gpus
>>107761506Yeah, from microcenter.
It's really over isn't it?
>>107761540Then it's a good deal. I guess they aren't selling many since RAM craze.I would go for ATX case and mobo mostly for better IO.
>>107761563I should have bought an extra 5090 gigabyte. They were 2500 two weeks ago.
I upgraded from a ryzen 3600/RX 580 to a ryzen 5800XT/9070XT. Plays all my games at 1440p 144hz high settings so why should I buy AM5?I'm good with my ddr4 32gb 3600mhz ram that I bought years ago.I'm still sticking with AM4. You have mental illness if you fork the money over for ddr5My games literally just werk, oh no I get 170fps vs 200fps the horror. Maybe you might get a game like unoptimized dogshit like cyberpunk or ue5 sloppa that has edge cases where am5 gets 30%+ but its always the shit games. In the games I play I always get 1440p144fps+ high settings. So no I'm not buying am5.
>>107761504What's the two beige cables going to back near the PCI slots? More USB?
>>107761588Who are you talking to? Is he in the room with us now?
>>107761504gib pcpartpicker also I'm >>107761608does that case have special extra vertical PCI slots in case you want to mount vertical? Is that why there's a 2 cable mount and some other kind of peripheral card there? curious and very clean build
>Upgraded from 1070 / 3600 cpu to 9070 xt / 7800x3d build>My monitor doesn't support more than 60hz via hdmiat least my puter is fast
>>107761647not sure if win or fail
>>107761647Get a new monitor mein neger
>>107761647>My monitor doesn't support more than 60hz via hdmiSure about that? It might be the cable. Old cables have limited bandwidth.
>>107761588AM4 is a dead end platform with no support and limited options for upgrades going forward. AM5 is expected to be supported for a long time.
I have 2 of the same monitor. The vents on one of them smells like fried plantain when it's on. It's like a weird sweet smell. Should I be concerned? I've had it for about 4 months and it works fine. Only noticed the smell because I was up close.
>>1077616452 slot vert
>>107761647You still made the right move. Monitor prices aren't subject to getting inflated to high hell so there's no rush to upgrade.
>>107761688Damn that's sexy. If only it was a full tower (give me an extra 4x4+2w) I'd gladly swap over.
In 5 years, you will no longer have viable computers. Everything you do will be cloud based requiring subscriptions. You will be limited to using smart phones or tablets.This is what they have been wanting and what they are getting now.You voted for his.
>>107761736No and no. Fuck off retard.
>>107761736>>107761787
>>107761736I have never given any money to Nvidia.
>>107761736You keep spamming this same post over and over again. Any particular reason? Is there a specific reaction you're looking for?
>>107761685anyone
>>107761659I am. Though the shipping is 8-9 days for the one I want >>107761663Yes it's a GN246HL. 144hz is only supported with that shitty cable thing>>107761708yay :D
>>107761736>In 5 yearsWe won't be here. If you know, you know.
>>107761685Some insect nest might be inside and cooking. But, it might be a cap starting to let loose. Either open it up and look or RMA the thing.
>>107761869>that shitty cable thingExpand upon that, please
Is the estimated wattage on pcpartpicker reliable? I'm wondering if I can stick with my current psu for a little while longer
>>107761876https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4liNMvLm_ys
>>107761736I think a lot of stuff will go this way, but cloud gaming will literally never work. You can have the biggest datacenters, have full fibre lines connecting all the way to your house. The speed of light means that even if we build the most advanced internet infrastructure possible, input lag will always be jarring. Even milliseconds of lag make a game unplayable. The laws of physics mean that some systems should always be local.But will things like office software end up all becoming cloud based subscription niggerhell? Yes, probably. We are almost there anyway. And to fuck gamers over they don't even need cloud based gaming, the game will still be local but they will just change to a subscription model and ramp up DRM/always online bullshit. Even on Steam which people praise, you don't really own your games, you just lease them.
>>107761317>PNY RTX 50 series have crazy hotspots over a whopping 100C that you can't monitor via software because the temperature sensors were removed in the most problematic areasThey did it on purpose. It's straight up planned obsolescence. They want us to own nothing.
>>107761736they already failed at cloud subs next they'll fail at AI subs. they will never try the cloud scam again.here's my ultimate AI can code fag truthnuke:>computer, make me a VNC client
>>107761905The Acer GN246HL gaming monitor has a native refresh rate of 144Hz but can only reach this refresh rate when connected with a DL-DVI connection
>>107761681What's dead is AM5 socket nobody is buying it LMAO.You're braindead if you pay $600 for ram so you can game at 1440p 180fps vs 220fps. I'll stick wth AM4, thanks.Theres no game that requires AM5 or even takes advantage of it besides ue5 and unoptimized SLOP which no one plays anyways.All the good games just werk and get 144fps+
>>107761685roaches are known to enter electronic devices
>>107761908Give yourself a MINIMUM 100w safety buffer above that number.
>>107761869>GN246HL>first google result>6.5/10 star rating
>>107761895i don't feel like stressing out over something that could be normal though. i've never heard anyone mention a fried plantain smell coming from electronics, so maybe it's just a normal thing from this monitor batch? i didn't buy both at the same timefried plantain kinda smells like bananas
>>107761795Kek Ai fighting against itself XD
>>107761930am5 was a fine upgrade if it meant you increase ram from 16gb ddr4 to 32gb ddr5 + got a new 8 core x3d cpubut now am4 continue to be good enough due to insane pricing
>>107761941also it's not particularly strong, you'd only notice it if you put your nose up to the vent and inhaled
>>107761939No way a monitor from 2014 has that kind of rating
>>107761681Nobody is buying AM5 mobos while a 16 gig DDR5 costs 200 usd + tax. Am4 is here to stay for at least 3-4 years more. Till the ram/ai situation sorts itself
>>107761966>Till the ram/ai situation sorts itself
>>107761930I'm glad you're happy with your current rig. Upgrading for the sake of upgrading is financial suicide. But you really seem upset over how other people spend their money. It is a sure sign of some sort of insecurity. You should probably focus on your own PC and spend less time worrying about someone else's AM5 (or Intel, or Apple) computer.
>>107761966That's why I bought a 5800XT $180 on sale, in most games is near performance of a 5800x3d at 1440p and that's good enough for me with my 9070xt. Also for editing and having a better desktop experience the extra cores are nice. Always liked 8 cores.I don't really care if AM5 gets 250fps vs 220. IM ALREADY GETTING 220 why the fuck do I need more?
$389 or 489 depending what region you live in.https://www.walmart.com/ip/MSI-GeForce-RTX-5070-12G-SHADOW-3X-OC-Graphics-Card-12GB-GDDR7-DPx3-HDMIx1-DLSS-4/15600752882
>>107762003Looks like some cope, under the assumption that everyone waited until now to build. You DO know that prices were lower up until 3 months ago... right?
Are you all pirating aida64 or is there another tool that shows the mem speed stuff for free since the trial version of aida hides some of it?
>>107761977Lol yeah I'm not optimistic about this situation either. Thankfully I have an 8 core ryzen 7 with an rtx 4080
>>107762040AM5 has always been a dead socket.AM5 has always been expensive. DDR5 was insanely expensive on launch and the 5800x3d was still the king since forever. AM4 was and still is king. 7800x3d released in mid 2023 and nobody could buy it for a while until early 2024.There was only 1.5 year window from where people had a chance to even get ddr5 and 7800x3d and build a new PC IF they had $1500 and many still held onto AM4 because PC gamers aren't just going to toss their PCs in a 2 year period span just because a new socket is out.Now RAM has killed AM5. People with 5800X3D are not upgrading for another 2-4 years, until RAM comes down. People who want to upgrade from a older ryzen like 3600 are going to go for a 5800XT new like I did because I'm not paying $500 for a used 5800X3D.And retards will pay $600 for ddr5 ram and $2500 for an AM5 PC just to get 40fps more (in some shitty unoptimized ue5 games)when they are already getting 144fps. Are we up to speed now?
>>107761296been a long time since I've seen noctua fans in a modern build
CES BEGINS TODAY AND I'M HYPE FOR ITFULLY KICKS OFF ON MONDAY
>>107762153I'm sorry you're so threatened by other people's builds.
So can I finally buy a QD-OLED that is good for text, the thing on my monitor for 90% of the time I'm using it?
5600x for $1625700x for $1925800x for $250I think $30 more for 8 core is better, but what do you guys think? Prices are in leaf dollars btw
>>107761876>Anon promises me sweet release Soon™>Nothing happensI'm not falling for it again.
my gpu temp is 66c and the hotspot temp is 99cdid the monkeys at xfx improperly mount the cooler?
>>1077622408 core
>>107762240since consoles are 8 core you should only buy 8 cores
>>107762232I can wait for the next revision of that subpixel layout, just like the Gen 3 refinement.Hopefully, the next one's making use of the MAX OLED manufacturing tech.
>>107762153How is AM5 dead?It might be dead for NEW builders going forward due to DDR5 pricing, but anyone who already bought into AM5 and already owns DDR5 will have easy upgrade paths with 10/11 series Ryzen.
>>107761517I'd be getting the version with the mesh side panel if that helps with the temps, will look into AIO options though I'd still prefer the air cooler for reliability.>>107761572Even at that price, not sure it'll be worth sacrificing 2 cores from the 7700x for the 7600x3d's cache.
>>107762245WTF that is too hot. If it's a brand new card rma it. If it's second hand change the thermal paste and pads. 99 is crazy
>>107762273Everyone who has ever owned a gaming PC has an AM4 PC if you built one pre 2020 covid. This ram shit is a hoax its just another covid like price gouge that happened suddenly within a month. It doesn't exist. It will resolve in 1 year max.What you said just means PC gaming is dead right now, until RAM prices normalize. Because $600 ram is just not acceptable to most people with brains.Just like I know i have a brain because I'm not paying $500 to jewbay 5800x3d sellers just so I can continue using my PC parts I bought in 2018. 5800XT is new and is $180 on sale. Good value.If you are a grandpa getting into PC gaming better fork up that $600 for ram old timer.For me doe I'm on am4 until am6 because am5 is a dead socket for 90% of PC gamers who didn't upgrade briefly within the last 2 years and why would people many still have a 5800X3D.Stems hardware showed 80% of games played were made in the past 8 years and most indie. Not new 2025-2024 games.
>>107762316its a 4 year old card. its been like this last couple years
>>107762357Repaste that shit
>>107762296>Even at that price, not sure it'll be worth sacrificing 2 cores from the 7700x for the 7600x3d's cache.For gaymes it's worth it for sure, for anything else 8core with higher frequency will be faster.
>>107762359i dont want to deal with 6 gorrilion tiny screws
>>107762350>Everyone who has ever owned a gaming PC has an AM4 PC if you built one pre 2020 covid.lol, now we know you're a troll. Pre-covid I had an 8700K with a 1080 ti. Was it the best? No idea. It worked for me. I didn't get lathered up over other people buying different parts.
So when will I be able to buy one of the new 2026 monitors like the Asus ROG one?
>>107762380If it announces at CES, definitely by June.
>>107762386Aw fuck that's a long time to wait.I thought march at worst. Let me in already.
>>107762372The more you wait the faster your card will cook itself. Anything over 80 degrees is thermal throttling level. Take a day off, use a weekend and take care of it. Or get ready to fork a lot of money for a new card
>>107762405It really depends on the technology. If it's a yearly, incremental upgrade, maybe a few weeks. If it's brand new display technology, you could be looking at Q4. But mid-year is typical.
How do the ram testers like karhu test all the ram when they run within the os and can only allocate like 90%? Does it actually cycle through what it tests or is there a chance I have bad sectors that will never be validated?If so, how do I get them tested?
>TCL CSOT demoes OLED displays with RGB subpixel layouts last year>Both Samsung & LG Display announce true RGB stripe OLED monitors at CES 2026How convenient. It's like these Korean companies withheld the less profitable tech until they absolutely had to release it.
What is the slimmest case that can fit a fullsize build? It can be tall and long, just needs to be less than 6" or so wide.
>>107762441Companies try to maximize profits? Say it ain't so, Joe!
>>107762451Check dimensions of cases on Amazon Nigger. We are not your slave. Or ask an ai
>>107762457People can usually quickly rec a manufacturer or something. Sliger used to make one that would work but not they only make cases for server racks.
>>107762475Nobody bothers to measure their pc case, are you poor? A 6 foot desk costs like 49 usd
If my 4090 were to bite the dust, what should I replace it with? I doubt anyone will still have 4090s new on the market for much longer, so a 5080 maybe?
>>107762498DO NOT GET SEPARATE RAM KITS. EVEN IF THEY ARE SAME BRAND, SAME MODEL, SAME FREQUENCY, THEIR INTERNAL CONTROLLERS ARE DIFFERENT AND THEY ARE NOT GUARANTEED TO WORK FLAWLESSLY TOGETHER. DDR4 WAS OKAY FOR MIX AND MATCH BUT DDR5 SHITS THE BED VERY HARD
>>107762498Are you pushing the 4090 to its limits? Sorry. Buy a 5090 before it goes up to $5000. If not, sure. Find an MSRP 5080. If you're nowhere near the ceiling of your 4090, 5070 ti.
>>107762498Don't be a defeatist, and keep the power cable secured on both sides.Undervolt the GPU to run at a maximum of 950mV, and it will improve the longevity of the card.
>>107762451Would this count for your purposes?
>>107762597FormD T1, 5.3" x 8.7" x 13.2"
>>107762539Too late, bought this shit in '23. It's set to run 6000MHZ across all of 'em. Lesson learned, though luckily not the hard way as I never enabled XMP until recently. I'm slightly less of a retard now.>>107762544I occasioanlly indulge in UE5 slop, the only other intensive things I've run would probably be Cyberpunk and Skyrim Nolvus modlist.>>107762552Never looked into undervolting. How does it even affect running shit as high as possible on a 32:9 monitor?
I decided to stop being lazy and repaste the die. It ran like this for 4 years... now my hotspot temps are 91c
>>107762680Much more tolerable, lower than R9 290X's typical temps.
>>107762425>>107762425RESPOND NOW
>>107762616Undervolting is all about the silicon lottery. Good engineering is all about building safety and performance margins into a design. Most CPUs and GPUs can be undervolted. This reduces the temps and allows it to boost higher for a longer time. And it's safe. If it's undervolted too far, it will simply crash. It will not damage the chip. So, even with no overclocking, an undervolt will run cooler and perform better. The trick is finding that sweet spot where it's stable. Try -20 and if it's stable, try -30. When you find where it's unstable, just back off 10.
my 4090 FE is getting to 81c on cyberpunk 2077 in 4k dlss qualityits overim doneim so fucking sad
>>107762801repaste it. half your die may not have thermal paste like >>107762680
>>107762801>5 year old game>3 year old hardwareIs this a new problem? Is the card new to you? How did this rear it's head so late in the game?
>>107762779Any particular software to use?>>107762801...mine always runs like that? Is that NOT normal?
>>107762845>Any particular software to use?MSI Afterburner. It's free. Lots of videos on the how-to's
>>107762824no i have it for like 2.5 years
>>107762854And it's been doing this the entire time?
>>107762613Looks interesting. After digging around it seems the form factor I need it best served by large HTPC cases. There are even E-ATX models at around 6.5" wide.
somethin tells me there's a new handheld review coming soon
>>107762801REPASTE
>>107761930>What's dead is AM5 socket nobody is buying it LMAO.This is absolute pure cope kek
>>107762861I wanted a case that could still fit flagship GPUs. HTPC cases seem a little small. Are you sure?
>>107762859no only nowi think it was much lower before
I want a second monitor, I was hoping to get another M32U but apparently it is sold out everywhere. What should I get that is similar?
>>107762887Pull the GPU and check for dust/filth in the fans and heat sinks. Clean accordingly. Next step, repaste as >>107762817said.
>>107762885Many of them will do that, they're just made it be thin. In any case this isn't for a gaming PC. I already have a build for that.
>>107762893Unless you're doing the left vertical, right horizontal thing, have you considered an ultrawide? You can have literally 2 monitors worth of real estate on 1 monitor. And, a 1440p ultrawide isn't horribly expensive.
>>107761645that was my build, it's got a ton of bullshit crammed into it
>>107762915thanks, Tyler
>>107762898>>107762870I will repaste it but not now, i will get to it eventually tho, the positive is that im mostly playing old games like battle for middle earth 1 and 2 and other lord of the rings gamesalso anons check out my build i did last year
>>107762915>dot matrix printoutwat
>>107762801is this with goytracing on or off, isnt that really taxing on the gpu?
>>107762915
>>107762938its rtx on psycho, no path tracing tho
>>107762927Dope, I miss my Legos but my mom gave them all to my cousins
>>107761647>hdmiwho the fuck uses this?
>>107762957Now that upgrades are out of reach for a while, you might want to restart your collection.
>>107762937i'm trying to restore a few of em for a museum and i also just kinda like them and they make comforting noises>>107761608yeah, i have 17 USB ports on this thing
>>107761296Soon, in the upcoming years, as old GPUs start to die and since Nvidia now only sells 8000$ AI cards, you no longer will be able to run these games above 480p on your 1000$ OLED screen.And it's happening, right now before your eyes at light speed.Check your local retailer for 5090 cards because for me: They're all GONE, All of them. Gone.You read it first.Good luck and stay safe.
>>107762955>Actual floppy driveBased.
>>107762974Many do. It's not 2003 anymore. HDMI 2.2 can do 4K @ 240hz uncompressed.
Is waiting in hopes this blows over a good idea or do I need to be panic-buying right now?
>>107762974Me because GPUs don't have DVI anymore
>>107763008CONSOOM
>>107762986Without new cards, there will be no new demanding games, it is not a problem. Devs will target onboard video or their companies will die.
>>107762386>check the pulsar monitor>it may actually release in the following monthsOh neat but DP1.4 only? really?
>>107762974there is no reason to use dp over hdmi anymore
>>107763008definitely and unironically panic buy if you intend to upgrade your pc within the next two years
>>107762986Just buy a 5090 with some stuff bolted around it. Sell the rest and keep the card. Or keep it all. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FK9JJTSK
>>107763008Can you wait till 2028/2029? Then don't buy. Do you have a bit of disposable income and need a new gpu? Buy, worst case you can sell it for same price next year
>>107763019They will all target phones instead.
>>107763031Whatever, if there are no cards there will be no games for them.
im still having GPU problems after repasting. normally it draws 120-140 watts but randomly it will drop down to 100 or 70 watts and my fps goes in the gutterthe usage remains at 98% and hotspot temp is at 90 when this occures
>>107763022There's a bundle for $992 on Newegg right now, B650 + 9800X3D + 32GB Corsair memorySeem fair? 32 GB kinda sucks.
>>107763044post hwinfo screenshot during load
>>107763045What do you need more than 32 for
>>107763031Based my ancient PC runs bluestacks just fine
>>107763044Psu or mobo capacitor issue sounds like. What's your psu?
>>107763052I play a video game called "DCS Combat Simulator" and it's made by Russians who can barely code, so it routinely slurps up 30 GB of memory just caching the map. (it puts the WHOLE MAP into RAM)
>>107763045>32 GB kinda sucksPerfectly enough.If you are going to upgrade now is your last chance. Like actually and unironically.
>>107763039They will suggest you to subscribe to cloud gaming so you will own no hardware, no games and will be happy.
>>107763064its a 750w seasonic focus>>107763050
>>107763044You might be hitting current limits. Even if it's thermally stable, if it nears the current limit, it will reduce performance. And, of course, the watts will drop.
Okay let me pitch a different question, My computer is old, maybe 5 years out of date. It's a DDR4 board, an Asus Z170-A. What is the best hardware I can get for this motherboard? Google suggests that I can expect a 7th gen Intel to work. What do you think?
>>107763069Got it, I'll bite the bullet.
>>107763078see:>>107763083Called it. Undervolt it and your problems will be resolved. And, it will run cooler. ~OR~ if it's overclocked... reset to stock
so if taiwan gets invaded by china this year (im not joking) we will all be fucked?
>>107763133if that happens, computers will be the least of your worries
>>107763133Trump will probably abandon Taiwan because Intel bribed him to do that. The best thing that can happen to Intel would be Taiwan getting invaded since all of a sudden Intel's 10nm+++++ node is the only option.
>>107762995>>107763013>>107763021My GPU has 0 hdmi slots, again who the fuck uses hdmi, retards
>>107763023Man, they stopped selling prebuild as well, I'm telling you, over here, and it's not the middle of AFRICA, but the middle of Europe, it's all gone.
>>107763180what model and make of GPU?
>>107763133What... PC parts will become incredibly expensive, and no one will be able to build? That ship sailed 3 months ago.>>107763149I agree.>>107763152Intel uses TSMC to make chips. Back to /pol/ with you.
>>107763180sounds like a skill issue to me
>>107763089i7 7700K is the best. But even that isn't that good nowadays and they are incredibly overpriced since it's the best CPU you can get for that mobo. On ebay one of those costs 80 bucks. You'd be better off buying for 40 bucks an i3 10100 and a new H470M motherboard for 60 bucks.
>>107763184Sucks man. I could get that prebuilt this Friday.
>>107763188They only use for Arrow Lake and their GPU's. But Arrow Lake sells like shit and Raptor Lake still has better sales right now than Arrow Lake and that uses Intel 10nm node.
The first PC I ever built has just been collecting dust in a corner and taking up space, but I can't bring myself to let it go.
>>107763205Nova lake will be made by TSMC
>>107763107its stock. ill drop the voltage from 1150 to 1075 and see what happens
>>107763201The remaining cards a selling for 3500euros.And it's just the start.
>>107761406Who knows how bad it will get. Shit might be fucked for a long time. At worst, you paid a bit more, who the fuck cares. GPU's have been overpriced for like 6 years now.
>>107763180I do, for one. 5k2k monitor with KVM switching. One DP port, one HDMI Both 120hz@ full resolution. I'm sorry the rest of the world isn't conforming to your opinions.
Alright I'm repasting my Dell 3090 GPU since the mem temps are high and they are known to have a design flaw where there isn't thermal paste around the chip so the memory around them don't have best contact. Putting paste in that area like pic rel lowers mem temps by 10 degrees.I'm thinking of using PTM7950 for the die and putting Duronaut around it. Is it a bad idea?
>>107763231Yeah, it's a mess. It's why I look for prebuilts made before the current crisis. Get what you want, sell the rest and end up paying a normal price.
>>107762986I should have bought that waterblock 5090 for 2600 euros. It was 400 cheaper than the aircooled cards where I lived and was almost MSRP when you took into account VAT.
Would I notice a difference in color richness and reproduction on older emulated games after going to OLED? It's weird for me to imagine these old engines were coding for colors monitors/TVs couldn't even reproduce at the time.
>>107763264I would imagine devs work on reference 100% sRGB monitors since they have no control over what the unwashed masses have. So, yes. You should notice an improvement.
>>107763188>What... PC parts will become incredibly expensive, and no one will be able to build? That ship sailed 3 months ago.That ship will sink together with Taiwan, the few computers available will be used by governments.
>>107761448Did you really need ASUS ? find other 5070ti brand
>>107762616>Never looked into undervolting. How does it even affect running shit as high as possible on a 32:9 monitor?Processors are overvolted at stock settings to guarantee stability. It's costly & time-consuming for factories to validate more precise V/F tables for individual chips.You use programs like MSI Afterburner to find a more power-efficient and stable V/F table for your GPU.4090s are requesting 1.05~1.1V at stock settings, undervolting with some overclocking can help the GPU retain the stock level of performance while drawing less voltage & power overall.I would suggest a +150MHz GPU core OC and setting a core voltage limit of 950mV to retain the performance you paid for (while running stable).Download and run Unigine Heaven or Valley (either is fine), run it on Windows, and adjust the GPU's V/F curve like the video below.You are adjusting the V/F while the GPU is under load to ensure the curve you are modifying applies at 3D rendering loads. Afterburner can be wonky if you tune the V/F curve without any GPU load.https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cardshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpW9yXHvOUhttps://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md#undervolting
>>107763201Here's your prebuilt bro."Rupture" means "gone"
I had no luck with my IDE to Sata adapters. But I got an IDE to USB adapter that works. FINALLY! My Sleeper PC will have working beige optical drive from 2001 and a supedisk LS120 drive.
>>107763302If you're in France there are some with rtx 4060 for around 900 euros. But even then I would rather build myself e around a mobo and cpu combo
>>107762986Pretty sure high spec games capable of maxing out even the most premium hardware will simply go extinct. The gaymes industry will have to keep their shit lightweight and cater to a low-spec crowd as a means of survival. Stagnation can have upsides.
>>107763197Thank you friend.
>>107763019Games will be streaming only.
How is this for a Prebuilt?https://www.newegg.com/skytech-gaming-desktop-pcs-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-32gb-ddr5-2-tb-nvme-ssd-ssd-st-prism4-1796-b-al-black/p/3D5-000Z-002F0?Item=3D5-000Z-002F0The individual pieces vastly outpace this sale price.
>>107763310>IDE to USB adapterholy shitI never thought of that. I have an old HD-DVD drive I've been trying to contraption up as an external drive. I just want to watch 2001 and Bladerunner and compare to my 4k blu-rays. And not spend any real money. That might work. Thanks, anon.
>>107763347buy it
>>107763347buy now ask questions later
gpu isnt any cooler undervolting. went as low as i could go before it started crashing. hopefully it doesnt randomly drop its power draw though
>>107763310>>107763365Why not an amazon JMB363 based PCIe to IDE adapter?
>>107763381The card could be boosting higher because there's more power headroom to do so.
>>107763365Biggest issue with that is that it needs external power. Some IDE to USB adapters come with an external molex power brick. But in my case I'm routing it internally to a USB header so I'm using my PSU's molex.Just keep this in mind since optical drives will need external power.
>>107763347It's because of fire sale deals like that, I am sitting on my build to sell when those prebuilts dry up.Buy it. Tell your friends.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zZ9fKq
>>107763347I don't know anymore. 5080 systems were going for 1700 two weeks ago. 265/32gb ddr5/1tb nvme.
>>107763382Out of PCIE slots. I have 6 NVME drives. I actually do have one of those adapters but never installed it. I read that using those makes boots take forever. Is it true?
>>107763396Yep. Understood. But that adapter will go a long way to making this retarded project work.
>>107763382BTW where did you get a beige BD drive? Or did you paint that?
>>107763405Oh, so I really should just impulse buy it because it's the last chance I get at a really major deal like this? Or are you saying I should clone the build on your list that looks to be about the same specs at a better price?>>107763410I wish I was around for it. Unfortunately I was away and missed some killer Prebuilts being sold around Christmas.
>>107763296It was the one available at MSRP when I got it.
>>107763428Buy the build you posted. My build would now take $2500 to re-buy.
>>107763413Though if I could find this adapter it could work...... and I would have an extra PCIE X1 slot. Sure my Intel 670P's speed is basically going to be 1/4th of what it currently is. But it's one of my lower priority drives and PCIE 3.0 X1 is still faster than sata. And I could add two more NVME drives so I could have 8 NVME drives.
>>107763436Thanks
>>107763413Obligatory "it works on my machine" warning but this is the first I'd heard of it being an issue and I haven't had any issues. It's driving both the LS-120 and the DVD-RAM drive no problem.>>107763425Yahoo! auctions Japan via Buyee. It's a LG model BH38N, beige from the factory. I saw some ebay listings shipping from CA for like $150 or something stupid and found a few on there in the $20-25$ range.
>>107762871>j-j-just throw away your PC for meme frames when I already get 144fps+ in every game!No, AM4 is king. I'm riding this until am6, And then I will build a new PC for 4K OLED.Its not worth it for am5.
Lancool 217 or HAVN BF360? Which one filter dust the most?
>>107763453Meanwhile, most people here built on AM5 at least a year ago. Too bad you're poor. Better luck in 2026.
>>107763472I don't need to spend $2000 and throw away my already functional PC to get the same gaming experience doeMy 9070XT plays every good game at 1440p144fps+ doe on am4.
>>107763487Heh, you're a goofy little fella. I like you.
>>107763449I just read that some cheap extra Sata PCIE cards could make boots take like 10 minutes or something. But never about a JMB363 cards.But right now I can either install the JMB363 and plug my 2001 Pioneer slot loading DVD-Rom drive and LS120 reader to the PCIE slots. Or I can instead just plug them to one of my extra USB 2.0 headers and keep my Kioxia 2tb drive that's plugged to a PCIE X1 to NVME adapter. I think the USB method works just fine for me.
>>107763487Yeah, no kidding. I'm still rocking my 7700K/1650. It plays CS2 just fine if I keep the settings reasonable. I don't need to play anything else.
>>107763487>at 1440pThat's not 4k
>>107763472I am convinced people like you aren't "rich" You think you are. Which checks with what you really are: Morons.
Chink RAM when?
>>107763531No one here claimed to be "rich". But I guess wealth is a relative term depending on your income history and locale.
RTX 5070 - ~550€RX9070XT - 630€RTX 5070Ti - ~800€RTX 5080 ~ 1100€I assume the common sense thing with that pricing structure would be the 9070XT?
>>107763531This is what those """"Rich"""" Larper actually does.
>>107763539yeah, if you don't care about Nvidia specific features it's the best value. Sucks that it's already 30€ more than it would have been two weeks ago.
>>107763553>Klarna
I got AM5 2x32 GB RAM for ~$200 around 2 years ago. It's so nice to feel like a boomer who got his.
>>107763515Yeah that works. I just went the PCIe route because I have an unhealthy obsession with using all my expansion bay slots. Can you use both drives on the same cable with the USB adapter? I haven't seen those.
>>107763539See how it performs in the games you play. But, I'd say it's a good card. Not the best at ray tracing, but it's still solid.
>>107763515Alternatively I could install the JMB363. Then I could buy one of those USB to NVME enclosures and put the Kioxia drive there and plug that enclosure to my motherboards rear USB C 20gps port. Then double side tape the enclosure to the rear of my PC or something. It would be faster than the PCIE 3.0 X1 it's currently attached to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE0CVDDhgksgod i need a girlfriend
>>107763553No idea what Klarna is, but when Best Buy or Amazon offers 0% financing, I always take it. As long as you're responsible, always take low/no interest when offered. Let your money work for you in the meantime.
>>107762845>Is that NOT normalIt's fine, most people here are retarded
>>107763566Oh I know the obsession with using all expansion bays. That's why I have used all my M.2 and PCIE bays expect for one X4 that's under my GPU (can't use that unless I get a single slot GPU)As for the adapter it's a nope as far as I know. But I'll just have two USB adapters and I'll get two usb ports to plug into from the USB header.
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gv-n507tgaming-oc-16gd-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814932768Good upgrade goal? Or should I shell out for the 5080ti?
>>107763251>I'm thinking of using PTM7950 for the die and putting Duronaut around it. Is it a bad idea?Seems fine. Get the Thermal Grizzly PhaseSheet or source PTM from Linus' store if you want a legit phase change TIM.
>>107763609There is no 5080 ti
>>107763405Double checked this prebuilt >>107763347Tiny MicroATX no-name board with no-name TForce RAM in it. Zero extra slots. But I'm thinking I could upgrade the motherboard to a full-sized.
>>107763560Thanks. Need RAM too, so compared to that I'm more than happy with a 5% price rise.>>107763567It's just a random mix and one of the games I'm interested in won't be out for quite some time. Just need something new as my old PC completely died.
i cant wait for china to level taiwan to the groundi will be in this general and react to the chaosso much fun
>>107763595They do a credit check which means some rando company grabs your personal banking info and decides whether to give you the offer or not.
>>107763553Yes? That's retail price at launch, when you got it.Your point being?
>>107763526Most of gaming on the high end is bottlenecked because of GPU. Yea having a new platform and CPU is nice but even its eehhhh.Maybe when am6 comes around and 9080XTX with the newest am6 cpu comes out in 4-5 years I'll consider dropping $1800 with hopefully a $500 4K OLED monitor.I'm currently using a 1440p 24" I bought for $120. It has 112% sRGB that's all I need.
HMMMMMMM
>>107763609>5080ti?
>>107763609Not a bad model given current pricing.5080 Ti/Super will be much more expensive if it's announced later this week.A lot of people will be trying to scalp it if it's announced and has 24GB VRAM.
>>107763613Apologies, I'm fucking stupid. I'll take the 5070ti.
>>107763607Link the adapter? In an ideal world you should be able to have both on the same cable and either use the cable select jumper or manually set master/slave drive jumpers.
>>107763622Here's my standard ram crisis advice- search local used gaming PCs on Marketplace or whatever. Normies haven't grasped the current situation yet and you could score something like a 7800x3d/4080 rig for less than $1000.
>>107763624Heres the thing: The #1 thing China doesn't want to do is level it to the ground. Because they want the chip production for themselves. This could only benefit the consumer because it means the big players get absolutely fucked, the ones that are jacking the price up now.
>>1077636242 more drills
>>107763630>Retard cant read
>>107763631That's stupid. Just play at 720p in a few years. Moron.
>>107763607Also, if you get a riser like https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DG4R3YXN you can install it before you install the GPU and relocate the card.
>>107763635That's what I suspect, I've never been on the cutting edge, I just don't want to be absolutely fucked in the coming year or two.
>>107763638It's one of these ones. It worked when the drive was set to master at least.https://www.ebay.com/itm/186945223886?_skw=ide+to+usb&itmmeta=01KE5DT3QPB9ZH85HZG8DZD2MM&hash=item2b86cdbcce:g:6V0AAeSwyJxnqzE5&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA4FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dTSOWi%2FculNHAPnOlrSkltNIiwTWjzJIXOhcm4n06lAWR8wqbZOvzT593n0PPdg%2FnpdsbEy6yCamfMbJ93EybeQnKCqOieF9Nays0foCgWPTuNq%2FhwYonUySprias%2BshUQM%2BS6V5z3SW9u5lq0nH%2BELv5qPLbjFyN7S09h5WJpy9mNxZIp1nUtngN%2BQkQAqob1CwRr%2FzqLJEbMN0lh3XjLP6VRX9ui0cyByLhU8PFD5HSnf%2FlRJgNU0aN3GLSDt%2Bnz0GgSLIswt6Vx37eYPBe1%7Ctkp%3ABFBMgrzorfFm
I sated my obsession with using all expansion bays by going ITX and getting a budget ITX board. Less is more.
>>107763658PROTIP: When posting any link, the question mark and everything after it can be deleted.
>>107763642Good advice
>>107763657I'll try to scalp the all-black 5080 Super FE 24GB if it's announced @ CES 2026.
>>107763642Thanks. I'm already looking, but sadly most people seem to have realized that. Not that there was ever much of a used market here.I'm considering just going for DDR4 and waiting things out, but the 5800X3D is sadly unobtanium for reasonable prices here.
>>107763696Go LGA 1700 if you go for DDR4. They are even starting production of new DDR4 boards for that platform.
Current benchmark for a 9800x3d and 9070xt system at stock clocks in Cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p with every setting incl. path tracing on superduperhigh. Playable but not ideal. do anons think with overclocking I can get this up to 60FPS? I do not think so.
>>107763302>vertical mounted Astralwhy would you do that
If they announce RTX 5070 TI SUPER 24gb just days after i buy RTX 5070 TI 16gb im gonna commit massacre
>>107763589same energy
>>107763656Issue with that is that I don't have any PCIE bracket slot to put that in. Only one that is free is above the gpu since my case doesn't have a vertical mount.I guess I could use a riser for the JMB363 and just double side tape it to the bottom of the case since I'm never going to use ESATA.
>>107763589STOP SIMPING FOR RETARDED WOMEN WHO FAKE THEIR INTERESTS. WOMEN CAN NEVER BE INTERESTING
>>107763723AIBs weren't briefed on the RTX 50 Super specs late last year.https://www.techpowerup.com/342778/nvidias-partners-reportedly-lack-final-geforce-rtx-50-series-super-specificationsIt also doesn't make much sense to sell 5070 Ti Super 24GBs when memory supplies are constrained.
>>107763715>pathtracing>9070 xtYeah no.
>>107763704Oh, thanks, I completely forgot about Intel lolFrom a quick glance the 14700KF with DDR4 3600 CL16 seems to be the best option there?
>>107763715>try to update my gpu driver with amd adrenalin>screen goes black and stays black fug
>>107763715WTF amd really cannot build a gpu to save their lives. Same rig with an Nvidia equivalent card would give you 10-15 fps more minimum
I caved and bought the 9060xt 16gb. Now tell me all the reasons why it was a stupid decision to make me feel bad, and then why it was a good purchase to make me feel good
How bad of an idea is it to build a PC after drinking a whole bottle of wine?
>>107763723Supers are not coming till Q3 2026. Maybe even later. Ps Nvidia will not supply the vram to the card manufacturers
>>10776375914600K is a really strong CPU. Problem is, 14th gen Intels are getting scarce. I grabbed one for $164 a few months ago, but you're lucky to find one for $230 now.
>>107763759Where do you live? In USA for example the 14700KF is more expensive than the 14700K fas of now.
>>107763773What could go wrong.
>>107763770It was a good decision if you needed one within the next 2 years.
>>107763773>hand slipped>screwdriver knocks off a couple of capacitors on the mobo/gpu>sell parts as-is on ebay at a loss like picrel
>>107763770What was your gpu before? If it's anything newer than a 8 gig gddr6 then you didn't need, unless you play every single latest AAA unreal engine 5 slop
Since i've consolidated my HDDs down i've opened up a SATA port I hadn't had available in 8+ years, so I decided to dust off my Bluray writer and hook it back up.Still had stock firmware on there so I threw the Libredrive MK firmware on there to make it as open as possible.
>>107763770Solid 1440p GPU. And a good value. Feel good.
>>107763770>16gbThats the reason. 24gb is the minimum standard these days
>>107763798Fucking moron. I'm sure he didn't even have a proper screw driver with the long neck special for mobo mounting
>>107763773You clearly aren't drunk enough, otherwise you wouldn't ask.
>>107763798Very well I shall drink another bottle of wine instead.
>>107763812lol... trolling rage bait
>>107761296holy reddit
>>107761366>>107761374They want to be millennials so bad kek
Hello /pcbg/, is this an okay deal? I mainly plan to emulate games up to PS3 and play some newish games.Country: germany, Budged: 2000 €Thanks in advance.
>>107763787>>107763790Eastern Europe out in the sticks. I'm looking at i5 14400F - ~180€i5 14600KF - ~200€i5 14600K - ~220€i7 14700F - ~300€i7 14700KF ~ ~320€Now that I looked at it a bit the i5 14600K seems like the best option. Is an AiO necessary or can I just stick with a good aircooler?
>>107763854Forgot the pic.
>>107763854
>>107763825If your GPU cant generate AI Videos its not a real GPU. Simple as that
Which one?
>>107763798i had my pc setup outside of the case to test for a couple days but one day i tripped over the gpu and it bent the pcie pins on the motherboard, just bent didn't break thoughluckily it turned out that it was actually in the wrong slot for the gpu anyway, was in the bottom slot not the top
>>107763759Depends on your budget. I'm using US prices here since I'm not sure where you live.I'd say best two options right now are either the i5 12600KF for $170 or i9 12900KF for $280. Those two CPU's don't have the stability issues of the 13th and 14th gen. But on pure gaming the $265 14600KF does beat the 12900KF by a little bit at launch (it was 4.5% faster) but I suspect they are basically same speed now due to Intel's fix for the instability slowing those CPU's down by couple percent. But the 12900KF obviously also has better non gaming performance as well.And as you can see at least from this tomshardware review both the 12900kf and 14600k beat the 5800X3D at 1080p. As for ram yeah go for 3600mhz. It's the best price to performance since beyond 3600mhz DDR4 is expensive as hell (even though something like DDR4 4133mhz does beat a lot of the DDR5)
>>107763770rdna is dead and AMD will drop support ultra fast
>>107763861What about 12th gen prices there? Look at 12600k, 12700k and 12900k (and the kf versions off course)
>>107763876i'm generating from my shed you bloody benchod bitch bloody
Hi guys, I haven't built a pc in quite some years, but I want to have access to a personal workstation at home again. However, there's two caveats:1. Because I haven't built one in years I feel like I'm quite a bit out of the loop2. I originally wanted to build a PC later this year because I just bought a house and was waiting until all the renovations were done so I could purchase components with a more flexible budget (and honestly because I want to buy as little new stuff as possible until I move)The current situation with the rapidly increasing prices has lead me to consider building a PC right now, but the aforementioned caveats lead me to be both quite unsure about what I should get and have reduced the amount of money I can (responsibly) spend on a PC.What I need is something that can handle light simulation in possibly complex scenes (such as in 3D programs like Blender) well. I'm not a gamer and have zero interest in things like AI frames in games or anything like that, which from what I understand is a selling point for the RTX 50 series. I understand that a 5090 would be the "obvious" choice, but fuck that thing is really expensive. What are the expectations for near future announcements?Country: The NetherlandsBudget: €3000 (I'm not dead set on that budget, but I would prefer to not spend much more than that. Open to different perspectives, though!)
>>107763871No. That's a terrible deal. You're too late for buying an AM5 rig. And that gpu is not worth that much money, you're getting shafted by the new year prices. Ps ps3 emulation is still crappy and is unrelated to gpu, the emulation layer is not developed enough like ps2 or switch
>>107763903what?
>>107763854>>107763871How much extra would you have to pay for 9070 / XT?Because that would improve the performance in new games significantly.
>>107763922You're too late. Wait 2-3 years or try to find am AM5 pre-built within your budget with a good card. It is not worth building your own pc now, since the October 2025 ram prices went crazy
>>107763902>>107763911Thanks, I wasn't aware they weren't that much worse.i5 12600KF - ~155€i7 12700KF - ~230€i9 12900KF - ~285€Just going for the KF honestly seems tempting here. The performance hit seems negligible and it's ideally gonna be an interim solution anyways.
>>107763861As for the cooler. Make sure you use the intel power limit settings. But I'd say a beefy aircooler like a Peerless Assasin should be enough for a 14600K. Though obviously a 240mm or bigger AIO gives better results.What's AIO pricing in your country? Here in Finland you can get a 240mm AIO for like 58 euros which is only 16 euros more than a Peerless Assassin.
>>107763633both are 5 layer tandememe's (better color than the older gens) but the pg32ucdm3 has the brightness increase tooI won't be buying any because qdoled eye rape
>>107763955I mean KF versions perform the same they just don't have an IGPU.I'd say for pure gaming performance I'd say go for either the i5 12600kf or the i5 14600kf. Or spend the extra for the 14700kf.
>>107763715No. Path tracing is a bit much.
Hey can anyone help me with a memory problem
>>107763992grandpa...
>>107763861>didn't buy 14600k when they were 150€ on sale with 70€ BF6 included150-70=80€if you were in the us you could have gotten double game bundle and a free 14600ktoday I will remind them
>>107763773Wine is weak. Whiskey is here it's at.
>>107763992senior moment
>>107763565I could still have preordered 64gb for 250$ here, 6000c30 is 900$ here btwbut pcbg tell me nobody want 4800mhz ramnot like it mattersmaybe I should have buyed and wait for shipment
>>107763957The Peerless Assassin is 30€ here. A Thermalright Frozen Edge goes for 50€, but I never trusted AiOs. That's probably just boomer mentality from 15 years ago though, when their pumps were loud (and then killed themselves) and the radiators gunked up quickly.>>107763988I think I'll just go with the 12600KF, 150 bucks is hard to beat. Is there anything special I need to keep in mind for mainboards like the ASRock boards for AM5 X3D CPUs?Also a friend is willing to give me half his memory as he only plays old shit, so I got really lucky there it seems, even DDR4 prices here have doubled.
>>10776386114600k guy here- I posted this earlier. And as I said, it's like $1000 more now. But it's extremely balanced between the CPU and GPU. Games very well. As for AIO, there are inexpensive options like I used. There's no need for fancy RGB and LCD screens. But disclaimer- I ALWAYS go overkill on cooling because I'm paranoid.
>>107764048oops: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zZ9fKq
>currently: 3060Should I take the plunge and get a 5060/70 now? I'm assuming it's only going to get worse for the mid range.
>>107764034Not really. Only thing is if you want overclock and such get a Z board. But honestly it clocks pretty hard already so you can cheap out and get a B board. Only thing I would do is avoid is the H610 boards since those boards don't have the best power delivery for a K series CPU and their ram speeds cap at 3200mhz.So look for a Z690 or a Z790 board with DDR4 support. Or a B660 or B760 if you don't care about overcloking. The 12600KF also will be able to be cooled down by a Peerless Assasin pretty well. No need for an AIO with that.
>>107764060Best value in that range is the 5060 ti 16gb. Forget any 8gb variant. 5070 will certainly perform better, but you're gonna pay.
>>1077640262x32 GB 6000CL30 is what I have. For $212. If it makes you feel better, I'm just trying to cope about still running on a geforce 1070.
Reminder it's your last chance to buy a 5090 at a normal price bros
>>107764098I will never give Nvidia my money.
>>107764098It's too late. I see nothing under 3k.
I don't think I should upgrade my 3080ti to a 5070tibut I'm feeling some extreme FOMO because the prices could shoot up hard this yearhow likely is it that AMD is gonna show something better than the 9070 at CES?
>RTX 5070 ti Super 24gb>RTX 5080 ti 32gbWaitfags won. Vramlet RTX 5070/5080 lost ahahahahahahaha
I saw Jensen speak on some interview about how great AI is todayI wanted to rip his head off
>>107764075I'm aware of the options - 5060Ti 16GB was my target anyway - I'm more concerned about future pricing, how much worse it's going to get price-wise.
>>107764125>>RTX 5070 ti Super 24gb>>RTX 5080 ti 32gbthese would both be extremely wanted by AIfagsyou're not gonna get these at reasonable pricesthey will also not give the 5080 as much vram as the 5090
>>107764118Dont man. High chance Nvidia gonna announce new card on CES. I purchased 5070ti and i regret it because of 16gb of vram. Im gonna immediately sell the card at reduced price for easy sell
>>107764125Wow $20 of vram chips for the low price of $1600.
>>107764150>High chance Nvidia gonna announce new card on CES.lol
>>107764150Don;t sell till you have something better in hand. The 4090 guys got butt raped selling early for the 5090. Used 4090s were going for 1k early 50 series launch.
>>107764138Also:>starts-with-a-V not required.Okay.>No valid starts-with-a-CWhat.Also also:>The system thinks your post is spam.What.
>>107764098>normal price$1300 over MSRP is normal?
>>107764162They will 100%.What we dont know is the price of those cards>>107764173The card is still on shipping and CES like in less 48 hours. I have time to sell the card
>>107764193>>They will 100%.LOL
>>107764116You're gonna need to, if you want a decent GPU>>107764117>>107764181It's already up? Wasn't it supposed to be in february?
>>107764125Yeah, sure pal. And the Sugar Plumb Express will hand-deliver one to you for $600 and $700 respectively.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6ISJm2O4jw
>>107764064Thanks a lot for spoonfeeding, it's been a while since I've done this so I've got a lot of catching up to do.
>>107764204What they gonna announce at CES then ??? Each yearly CES they always announce new GPU
>don't mind paying $800 for an SSD>unwilling to pay more than $400 for a monitor
>>107764214It will all be AI slop and robots. But, I expect another 50-series card announced. Like a 4gb RTX 5030.
>>107763453>AM4 is King>I will build a new PC for 4K OLED>AM6keep coping retard
>>107764205NO! AMD will deliver...they have to...
>>107764235NVIDIA didnt make very low end cards anymore since RTX
>>107764232>don't mind paying $500 for an HDD>>>unwilling to pay more than $400 for a monitor
>>107764125Kek if you're ready to pay over 499 usd for 5060 super and 699 usd for 5070 super
>>107764257>>107764257>>107764257
>>107764247>didn't so farThese are trying times.
bros... pre built PC's with anything better than a 5060 cost like cars in my country...
>>107764279Buy used. Look far and wide. Normies haven't fully grasped the current situation.
>>107764279Too late for gaming pcs now. Try to find a used Am4 rig and change it's gpu. It will come to cheaper
>>107764077that was like the normal price for a brief periodif it makes you feel any better i missed 2x32 6400c32 for 100€ also>>107764098based fearmongering>>107764125>ai special presentation>>107764232a display should cost between 1000-3500$ anything less and you are getting dog shit poo poo
>>107764279I'd consider getting a skill and moving the fuck out
>>107764290Naw I wouldn't have went for that - I read that any speeds higher than 6000cl30 was unstable at the time.
>>107764309>Naw I wouldn't have went for that - I read that any speeds higher than 6000cl30 was unstable at the time.you just change time speed down to 6000
>>107764290>a display should cost between 1000-3500$I got my neo g9 57 (best ultrawide monitor in the world) for less than thatand lg c2 (one of the best 42 tv oled) cost like half of 1K
>>107764333So 6000cl32? Would that have been optimal?
>>107764349a C 42" is like 1k$ in eu on half price salescloser to 2k$ prior tobut yeah I should have realstiically said up to 7k considering TV sizes coss>>107764352it's the same ram you could tune down the timings consiering you lower the speedit would be hynix ram anywayso yeah should have boughtscalpers trying to sell those kits they bought now for 900$ dont think its gonna work
>>107764349Anons said I needed to spend as much money on my monitor as my GPU, so I bought a LG G5.
>>107764125>RTX 5080 ti 32gb>Would go for 2-3kYeah, what's the point?
>>107764930The point is you might as well buy a $3200 3090 Asstral. The raping has begun.
>>107764125someone SS this post so we can laugh at him after Njudea fucks over their paypigs at CES for the millionth time.Not sure how they'll screw over the goyim this time exactly, but it'll happen, and i'll be here to laugh at you bottom feeding goyslaves.
>>107764125>24gb of VRAM being given to peasants in a post AI worldAHAHAHAHAHA
>>107763180What do you have? DVI? Are you just a cheeky cunt with an accelerator?
