>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous: >>107810624
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Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!
Monitor section should recommend QD OLeds
Thanks opieI love my personal computer
>>107813232Im waiting for my new build to arrive next week. Was a jew and chose 9070xt to save money over a bit pricier 5070ti. Maybe my choice isnt so bad after all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c04NqYHFAfcINTEL WON
>>107813256https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/Req1Zuzilo2iQQJbhVBOMw/Gullible
>>107813232Let me guess, you bought a gigabyte >>107813256It's either an AMD shill or a retard. I had to reinstall Windows three times due to my amd graphics card. Now I went with Nvidia and I'll never look back
Ryzen 7 9800X3DRTX 5070 Ti32GB RAM 6000MHzGood for amateur/hobby 3D Rendering + Gayming for the next decade?
>>107813270>>107813185
uh oh nicotroon melty
>>107813299just get a 4tb nvme drive>silent>fast>lasts forever>$400
Cheapest used 3090 in my area is now $750, retail 5070 is $690, WHY COULDN'T THEY PUT 24GB ON THE 5070?! I NEEDED THAT VRAM!
>>107813265cpu and gpu are serviceable16gb is agony1tb is tuff toogood luck anonoverall 4.5/10
>>107813214and opie loves /pcbg/, fren
>>107813324shhh, just >>107813185 ignore them and /pcbg/ on, brothers
I wonder if it was yet again my brand of luck that pushed me to not be able to upgrade my GPU until the 50 series came out. Now that I have actually upgraded I get to use model M without issues, whereas if I was able to upgrade beforehand I'd be grim and sad for years while waiting for a "good" time to upgrade.
>>107813385Enjoying the shimmering?
I have a 9060 XT 16G because I'm a poorfag. It's honest, at least.
>>107813372depends on your needs. for gaymen i've yet to even break the 20gb barrier on 32gb and im not sure what tasks i'll end up doing in the future that'd require more
>>107813176this is the 3rd thread on the catalog now LOLman the hardware tech moguls really need more sales huh? whole ram crisis killed the industry?maybe you guys shoulda been spending less money on astroturfing this website
>tfw forgot I had a $30 rebate for starters with my retailers mobile app and that those codes expireFUCKI was going to use that on a CPU cooler
>>107813413we're building so many computers so quickly that we'll need at least 6 threads on the catalog to be satisfied
>>107813465as the world and economy gets worseit becomes more important to build a pc to escape it all...
>>107813326What does vram do
>>107813486True escapism is portableGet a DECK.
The monitor market is pissing me off. I want something like the KTC M27P6 but guess what, I need 32 inches so that I can also work on this thing and they don't fucking exist.
>>107813497you lost, troon
>>107813497that is absolutely trashtalking shitpost, negro. i shit on them all.>we don't discriminate here at /pcbg/.
>>107813527lmao so mad you can't even necropost properly
>>107813527>posted 15 oct 2025uh, yeah, sure
>>107813238There are absolutely no guarantees with that kind of kit, I wouldn't run it overclocked without extensive stability testing. That being said, if you have good case airflow (or don't mind ghetto-ing a fan directly over your memory), even mediocre kits can achieve decent results if you pump voltage into them.>heavy GPU bottleneckIn that case don't bother unless you get bad 0.1% lows.
>>107813527you're either trolling or don't know how to troubleshoot, that rambling problem description means you don't have the needed hardware /skills/.
>>107813534he's running through airplane mode ip's fast soon his entire village will lose access to 4chin for a week.
>>107813555And cyberpunk
>>107813535>pump voltage into themand come back when you fry your ram, we love to hear about it.>bad 0.1% lowsle meme
>>107813555nicotroon still ban evading and acting like a gigantic faggot
>No new GPUs until 2028Comfy.
>>107813535I had 4800cl40 microns beforethey scaled pretty badly with voltagesbest I could do was 5200cl38 or so
Guys I bought a prebuilt but it has a WD Green SN3000The AI told me this is terrible. What’s so bad about it?Do I actually need to replace it? If so what should I buy. I tdont think I’ll need more than 1 TB I mostly just use it to browse 4chan and watch YouTube. Thanks.
>>107813562For the life of me, I can't see the issue. Where is it?
>>107813577how about nyo
>>107813562OK, I noticed a little flickering in those shadows, close to Panam, in the grass. Is that it?
>>107813583Yes. And new DLSS 4.5 makes it even worse apparently
>>107813577no one cares troon lmao we can tell you're literally just replying to and "exposing" yourself all the timeno one is organically engaging with your bait anymore, must be sad
I saw Thermaltake had cool looking AIO's and fans coming out, anyone know if they had an eta? cause the youtube video I watched didnt show or say any dates
>>107813571meanwhile, micron on DDR4
>>107813589Oh, I see. Well, at least it seems easily fixable because if AMD can do it, then Nvidia probably can too, and much better.
>>107813567>>107813577yes but your threads have a habit of attracting much more wrath from the many, anon, don't you think?you have become meme, your exploits will be told of by bards for many years to come, the anon who successfully trashed amds reputation. >if, on the other hand, you're actually trolling for nvidia, good job.>also i still think it's a thing with us, c'mon, just admit it.
>>107813565With proper cooling even 1.6V won't "fry" anything. It might be unstable or it might degrade (I don't do over 1.5V for daily use) but even then, abusing memory warranty is easy.
>>107813575some anon told me its the cheapest ssd in the market and that its absolute shit. Thats what you get with prebuilts they cheap out on some parts. I think Samsungs are decent, I chose 990 pro tb for my build
>>107813654i just like to shitpost warnings for /noobs/, anon. i also void my warranty with OC as soon as i have stability tested my new /pcbg/. it's worth the effort to squeeze the last % if you know how.
>>107813679maybe not worth it going into a hardware shortage though. im undervolting everything.
Damn, it feels like barely anyone is building new PCs.We used to get multiple pcpartpicker builds in each bread. Now it's only spam.
>>107813575>What’s so bad about itdram-less budget SSD expected in a prebuilt.>>107813670>990 promuch better>>107813689larping chickenshit nonoverclocking faggot>>107813697most of the ones posted lately were spam anyway. never believe anything you read on 4chan is the golden rule. seek the truth and you will find it.
>>107813697I'm going to build one for the first time soon.
>>107813697I built mine (pic rel) but Im waiting for it to arrive sometime next week.
>>107813724People who OC nowadays dont really care about their PC
The dram gouging really killed pc building We're gonna have to rebrand the thread to prebuilt computer buying general soon until those also get unaffordable
>>107813753>really killed pc buildingGod I wishreally would be something if the Taiwanese PC industry killed itself over greed
>>107813753but even for some who come to pcbg, a prebuilt is the right answer. its better than buying a bunch of stuff without knowing how it goes together.
>>107813764negro this is /pcbg/, fuck off with your trashposting.
Really really mad I didn't buy a 4tb nvme a year agoShould I get a 2tb picrel for under 200€ now or are things not looking as grim for storage?
>>107813747Nice. How much was it?
>>107813799since its only going to get worse for the next 12 months+, now is a good as time to buy as it was months ago
>>107813792PC building is better dead than the bastard it is now.
>>107813816Yeah, im very excited, it will be my first proper PC. 2600 euros. Bought it mainly because of the price rise hype, something like now or never lol
I would say that the price of components today is really a value when you consider what you are getting for the money.
>>107813870It's similar to what I have in mind for my own. I'm still contemplating getting a 5070ti, though. And then adjust to that accordingly.
i expect a small renaissance in pc building for the diehard of us when share of households with a pc drops to single digits. Hardware will only be aimed at enthusiasts instead of the lowest common denominator of consoomer.
>>107813954That's really awesome I'd love to go back to no ports and no optimization on pc
>>107813954kek next everyone will buy tiny chinkshit boxes and only some will stupidly glue external GPUs to them with docks, the discrete GPU market will become even more enshittified
>>107813979you're the lowest denominator consoomer in this scenariodw you wont be missed
Anyone buying an IPS monitor and not getting PULSAR is doing dummy shit PULSAR and OLED are the only worthwhile monitors to buy now
>>107813995wake me when we have a 4k fald pulsar monitor
How bad of a bottleneck would a 4790k be to a 2080 Ti? I checked out some bottleneck sites but they all say something completely different
>>107813995which monitors have that pulsar meme
for once I wish I lived in the US
>>107814026It bottlenecked my 3060
>>107814026>checked out some bottleneck sitespost links or you're trollposting.
>>107814036those ssds prob been sitting there for two years
>>107814036walmart is so weird why do they sell this stuff if they have no idea what any of it is even worth or is it just the manager of the store has zero clue and wants to make shelf space
>>107814057
>>107814026don't use a bottleneck calculator they're all rubbishdepends on the game, the resolution, the settings, etc. There's no definitive answer.Generally speaking that's a mismatched combo but it depends, like anything.
>>107814036no you don't, it sucks here. all /pcbg/ components are either out of stock or priced out of reach for the average /consoomer/. there was probably a mad max style battle for that ram, picture a bunch of typical borgaricans on mobility scooters bashing into each other.
>>107814057it's probably an absolutely ancient 4tb wd black hdd on giga nigga clearance, not an ssd. Possibly returned as well.
>>107814055that's an okay tradeoff considering ssds dont go bad on shelves>>107814057i see even crazier deals from microcenter and amazon return warehouses on r*dditlike, who in their right mind would list 12900Ks for $200 in 2023 and $900 open box 4090s??
>>107814066>>107814057those look like clearance sales. probably a underperforming walmart.
>>107814053https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0AH12n/core-i7-4790k/geforce-rtx-2080-ti/https://www.willitbottleneck.com/https://bottleneckcheck.com/Just whatever came up first when I looked up "4790k 280ti bottleneck" I don't know this stuff that's why I'm asking.
The monitor I want doesnt come out till summer... will this be a good monitor to hold me over till then?
>>107814084shitposts to flood the thread
>>107814068fair nuff, thanks anon
>>107814057Walmart is working like retail has pre covid>product isn't selling>product needs to be replaced with new stock>product gets discounted to SELLReally says alot when people are so astonished by pre covid retail practices.Almost talking as if you WANT all retailers to play price games.
Ever since I got a high end rig I only truly enjoyed Cyberpunk on itEverything else that's good could be played on a medium rigMy $3500 Dota station...
>>107814095it's shite, why waste the money when you could buy games with it?
>>107814057>>107814066damn i'd nab those asap
>>107814075well the US does get pretty nice SKUs that I dont get down in my shitholelow volume stuff like msi's unify-x, gigabyte's tachyon, certain kits of OC ram etc.
Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta.remain vigilant, /pcbg/>>107813185
>>107813947Im sure 5070ti is the better choice. Im just not a heavy gamer/editer and even 9070xt will be a huge upgrade for me, so I just thought I ll save that extra 200 €
>>107814103Players Voice of 2025 demands a beefy rig
>>107814104my current monitor is REALLY bad. I am going to eventually get a 2nd vertical monitor when I get my main monitor that releases in summer, so I was thinking I could just buy the 2nd monitor right now
>>107814114so then what tech do you get that ameritards don't?
>>107814139just do it faggot. buy it and have fun and come back and post with it.
I love my dad. Back during Covid, when we were getting Covid bucks, I wanted to build a new PC so bad. My dad convinced me to use the money to buy stocks in the company’s. I bought $2000 worth of Nvidia stock and now it is worth $200k.Imagine if I had wasted that money on an RTX 3090ti?
>>107814147off brand nvidia gpus like inno3d, colorful, galax, shitbox cases with no dust filters, only the most basic ram kits like 3200cl16, 3600cl18, 6000cl36 and all pc components having a 60% markup over US msrptake your pick
>>107814139>save that extra 200 €to spend it on what? What's 200 € really gonna buy
>>107814171Galaxy used to make the best nvidia cards. Shame how they've fallen.>ram 60% markuplmaotry like 500%
>>107814171sheeeit sorry to her all that, anon. too bad importing tech stuff is expensive everywhere.
>>107814171Well I am an American living in SEA and the markup is from import tariffs. I can still buy from Amazon in the US but then they slap the tariffs on my import. Sometimes it is worth it since you can’t find things here like Arc GPUs and AMD Threadrippers. I am sure it is the same there. Normally it is just cheaper to buy from the local PC parts dealer for the same items compared to Amazon (with tariffs) of the local seller has it in stock
>>107814144Wuwa is honestly mediocre on average (been playing it since 1.1) and it's not that power hungry if you turn off RT
>>107814189>What's 200 € really gonna buySome nice Ukrainian pussy
keep it up amd, every time my pc freezes up and I get a driver timeout popup the more you're pushing me toward nvidia.
>>107814189Well, ive always been a bit of a jew and tight with money, so even 200 is a lot to me. Anyway, a 5 % improvement wont make me cancel my order
>>107814234post your /build/ specs, OS, and driver version.
>>107814205why lie? it brings all machines to its knees even without RT using the real UE4 configs.
>>1078142457900xtwin11latest driver
>>107814234bad ramof course its bad because amd is shit at ram
Is this 5090 melting cable shit just people being retarded or should I genuinely be worried?
>>107814205it's beefy for my rig and dickhttps://x.com/geoffkeighley/status/2009452329528119466
>>107814251build specs incl. mobo/cpu/ram/SSD/hdd retard
>>107814234Used to get that every startup with my R9 380For a spell the startup procedure literally included wating for the driver to crash and recover before doing anything. It was eventually fixed with a driver.
>>107814139>I just thoughtYou're fine. I hope you have fun with it. What's the first game you're going to play on it?
>>107814257the cable is simply very poorly engineered, designed with a 1.1x safety factor, uses the wrong gauge wires by any standards an actual electrical engineer would follow. Even the connector tolerances are poorly done. It's bad. Power limit/undervolt and you will /probably/ be fine but no guarantees.
>>107814257it's>just people being retarded
Do you think it's time we do an OP audit and have new part suggestions?I haven't seen a single build posted in the past couple of months that actually uses the parts in the OP.
>>107814247No it doesn't, without RT my 4090 shits on it with the power of a thousand sunsAnd the performance is also very, very uneven between areas. Don't remember seeing a gap this big between in any game.Still a mediocre game anyway
>he fell for the rdna 3 meme
>>107814275Crysis and the adventures of bayou Billy
>>107814260>Chinese ass censor coat Yeaaah no thanks I'll pass on the HSR design
>>107814270>R9 380thank you for the blogpost about ancient history
>>107814286>Don't remember seeing a gap this big between in any game.you should see stellaris early vs lateor path of exile campaign vs juicy mapsseveral of orders of magnitude difference in performance can be observed.but... this is mostly cpu.
>>107814302Ancient history is why you have the present.People confused about the Nvidia monopoly ignore history.
I have a fan in the front of my case that is dying and sporadically maxes out so I want to replace it. How are the Arctic P12 Pro fans? Mainly just want them to be quiet and last awhile. Open to a different brand just not wanting to spend a lot.
>>107814275Probably american truck simulator lol. Waiting when CP2077 will be on sale on steam. I have finished it before on series S but not the dlc. I ll take it slow
>>107814327Arctic has been the best value to performance I have ever owned. However, your description of the fan speed issue sounds more like a power or controller issue. Usually when fans are “going out” they rattle, squeak, then slow down or stop.
I have a Ryzen 2700X and RX 5700 gpu on an Asrock B450 Pro4 mobo. These are pretty old by most people's standards, is there a point in upgrading any individual components or do I just do a completely new build?
>>107814317kek anon i've got decades of tech experience, i know the history well. nvidia got to where they are through the fine arts of evil licensing agreements and technical know-how. i would not be surprised if they shat out their /consoomer/ branding to some spin-off the moment they decided they just didn't need the hassle of maintaining it.
>>107814350This one does completely stop sometimes is why I think it's dying. Maybe I'll try a different header and see if there's any change.
>>107814368just buy a new one anyway, it never hurts to have a spare. CONSOOM.
>>107814359must not be very good experience then
>>107814389you wish you had my life, anon
>2022>buy 3060 ti for 2789 pln>2026>buy 5070 for the same amount>anything below that is literally a negligible upliftcool, 4 years of waiting really reaps a good reward huh
>>107814356How many thousands of dollars do you have to spend? It is a worse time to upgrade now than it was in 2020-2022. Best time to upgrade was 2022-2024. That window closed. There is really nothing worth playing that you can’t already handle. Don’t fall for FOMO. Once Elon, Mark Z, Sandeep Nutella, and the rest of the AI Jews (plus Taiwan) lose to China, things will stabilize
>>107814356zen 3 and 9060 ought to do the trick unless you're that willing to bend over for am5
>>107814395I dont envy someone who cant figure the concept of fool me once...
>>107814327I replaced all my case fans with P12 Pros and every time I boot up my system I get a jump scare because those fans are loud as fug at max RPM.At around 750RPM they are not bad, tho I had one fail on me after 3 months, sample size 6.They are still cheap fans after all.
>>107814418wat? which? name it.
>>107814436i bought all noctua so i just dont werry about fans failing
Surely next week the 5090's price will hit 5k right... Last week and the week before that were when it was supposed to happen...
I WON
>>107814456me too :)
>>1078144416€ for a fan vs 30€.Like I said you get what you pay for.
>>107814436kek i have one Noctua NF-F12 iPPC 3000 as an intake fan which goes to 3k RPM when i cold power on
>>107814449link.the.text. you lazy hmong.
>>107814475> 6€ for a fan vs 30€.they are both still chinkfans though
>>107814456>Bought 2 8TB WDs for 580 eachI won!
Hello anons, anyone here with a 9060 XT 16GB?I was wondering if it’s worth upgrading my main monitor from 1080p to 1440p for this card, especially for gaming. I won’t be upgrading my GPU in the near future, and I thought a good min/max upgrade would be a better monitor.I don’t mind upscalers as long as they don’t ruin my image quality.
what game do people recommend to test a new gpu that isnt a meme like cyberpunk or ue5
>>107814449ok so could say insteadASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
>>107813176pics of my new sn8100 8tb and older sn850x 8tb the sn8100 has an additional ddr4 ram chip on the backside for some reasonexcuse the blurriness since it was taken in a dark room and the lenses of my phone's camera sucks
>>107814530would be fine, anon, sensible upgrade
>>107813176Any good socketable alternatives to the N100? (low power draw while idle, high efficiency, igpu, etc
>>107814530Anon… anything XX60… but it Nvidia, Intel, or AMD… is always a 1080p GPU
>>107814543Why 8TB isn't that shit like 1k$ now?
>>107814557probably better to ask over in /hsg/, those freaks love low-power boards over there
>>107814543Looks rather like they replaced the conventional power converter (???) with a single chip solution.
>>107814530FSR4 upscaling looks a lot better than the previous versions, so you are good there. Whats your CPU? 1440p should be no issue, especially with upscaling. Even older CPUs should be able to handle this cardAlso, depending on your budget for the monitor, it might make sense to wait for the new models being available. Lots of announcements at CES
>>107814532You'll want to engines rather than games, for source engine you should test portal with rtx or cs2, for the frostbite engine from Dice then test battlefield 6 redsec, for ID software engine either the new doom or indiana jones, cryengine you have KCD2, Decima Horizon forbiden west, RE-engine the pragmata demo Those are basically the latest release on each engine, You also get the latest verison of pathtracing implementations on both indiana jones and doom the dark ages and get to test vulkan too,
>>107814575its not a sensible purchase for sure, i just prefer having large ssds for convenience, and because there's not many m.2.s on my boardi've been eyeing the sn8100 8tb for a while now but decided to buy now in case it gets any pricier
>>107814532Alan Woke, WuKang, Skyrim RTX,
>>107814557Not that low, but I was able to get my 5700G around 11 Watts idle using a Deskmini. Any N100 mini PC will beat it but the power scaling for the Ryzen is insane!
I'm wanting to get a VCR-style look for my next HTPC build and want for the case to have a clock on it like in picrelated, which will most likely mean using the 5.25" bay for it. Is there already some display I can get for doing this, or will I need to make some custom thing out of a disassembled clock and a 3D-printed chassis?
>Sorry there is a delay with your parcelI'm getting a box of rocks aren't I
>>107814597>Whats your CPU?I have a ryzen 7 5700x>depending on your budget for the monitor, it might make sense to wait for the new models being availableYeah, I’m not in a hurry per se, but my budget is around $300
we're going back to the pre 2000 days where a basic computer cost like 5k aren't we>?
>>107814557Any lower end intel CPU (although even a 14900k can idle low )Avoid extreme gaymer baords as their VRMs are inefficient at low loads.PSUs are going to be the most hit and miss thing with idle draw as 80 plus doesn't measure under 10% loadshttps://mattgadient.com/7-watts-idle-on-intel-12th-13th-gen-the-foundation-for-building-a-low-power-server-nas/
>>107814640cut a hole in a silverstone htpc case and put one of those smsl dacs in there
golden cove is eternal.bask in the glory of the final monolithic x86 desktop cpu architecture...>>107814673Yeah except it won't become unusable e-waste within 18 months and 5k today dollars is worth like 700 dollars back then. Shit is cheap as fuck and lasts forever compared to how bad things used to be... no reason to complain unless pcs start costing 20-30k+.
>>107814673that would be nice. all the poorfags could scurry back to their consoles
>>107814640Maybe you can remove the front panel from a VCR and find a case with similar dimensions? There are quite a few home theater PC cases with 5.25" bays on the market, so modifying one of these + buying a display seems to be the easiest option though>>107814660perfectly fine CPU, very well matched for that card. With that budget OLED is pretty much out of the question, so I would look for some deals on older models. Seen 1440p 165Hz displays for 175 bucks, so you might find a deal on a last gen top panel
>>107814685bartlett lake 12P doko
>>107814673we made fun of people who bought overpriced alienwares and now they are compelling deals
>>107814673That's why you buy a 5090 right now and secure your future while the peasants are forced to use Jensen's Geforce Now for their rationed monthly gaming time with his permission.
>>107813486Ha ha stupid cat got addicted to cigarettes, what an idiot!
>>107814687What do you reasonable expect to gain from prices continually going up?Honest question
>>107814715peace of mind
>>107814694i am highly considering replacing my 14900k for that thing when/if it drops. e-cores are nice to have...sometimes... but the true final monolithic+homogeneous architecture cpu with nice predictable performance (unlike e-cores which vary between ripping tasks apart and being completely pathetic) and low latency has a lot of appeal.
So now that the jury is out about 4.5, isn't it irresponsible to still be recommending AMD GPUs in the OP?
>>107814530Reference chart provided>>107814418Not the OP, but a monitor is something you can use for multiple PC builds.It's better to list something better that may not be available until a month or two in the US, given the expected ownership period.Like that cheap AOC QD-OLED monitor has a more limited HDR color gamut & volume compared to competitors' monitors.https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/agon-pro-ag276qzd2#test_1550>Recommend some other QD-OLED monitor thenCES 2026 just announced a new QD-OLED with better subpixel structure or the same Gen 3 panel with an improved black & hardness coating.If people want to buy a QD-OLED now, they already missed the best discount periods and might as well find something on sale & well reviewed, which isn't simple to consistently recommend.
>Jensen was asked if the 5090 raster performance will ever be beaten>he simply replied that the future is AI scalingit's over, we are finished, done, cooked, finito
>>107814704thats a hard no from me given the amd track record for long term driver support vs. needing to stretch the shekels on a vidyacard>facts suck don't they?
>>107814658Check the weight difference between transit points.
>>107814731there's no K sku though so you'll have to give up overclocking
>>107814733
>>107813954I recently pulled out my old stuff that I would have thrown out if I hadn’t been too lazy to look up the ewaste laws. I have 64gb ddr3 ram an fx8300 an fx8350 and an r9 390 and a 1080 that i will sell or maybe just give away to a pathetic endearing nerd child in a couple months if the desperation trajectory continues at the current rate
>>107814756i gave up overclocking years ago when there were no more significant gains to be had. As long as bartlett lake can be power unlocked so it's not throttlefucking itself under moderate workloads and can maintain a solid 5.5ghz+ all-core boost, that's plenty imo.I don't know if it will be power unlockable, but I've been able to do that with previous generations of "locked" SKU's on Z series motherboards so it should be possible. If it's actually capped at 125w for some reason it's going to be a piece of shit...>>107814712she's cute though still.
>>107814733>irresponsibleno. a GPU for every use case and budget.
>>107814733Always has been, at least since the launch of the RTX 20 series. I will be the first to recommend Radeon when it offers reasonable pricing for its products. $30 off the 5060 Ti 16 GB's price for a 9600 XT 16 GB for example is not anything close to a reasonable price. There is very little reason to generally recommend Radeon GPUs, as they only make sense in edge cases.
Best 5070 partner models at the low end? Gigabyte's Windforce three fan model seems to be the cheapest one at $685.
LANCOOL 4What an odd PSU placement
>>10781453016GB and 1440p is fine. 9060XT can drive 4k easy. 9000 series has gigantic bandwith
>>107814819>$685At that point jump to a 5070 Ti. They can easily be found for $750 MSRP and are actually a good buy, unlike the 5070.
does radeon have anything like geforce's neural shader tech in the works?that looks like it'll be the next thing where you eke some extra performance out of existing hardware with relatively low performance cost
>>107814530You can run 1440p in demanding games as long as you can use FSR 4, which often means fiddling with optiscaler. The monitor is the thing you look at all day, so it's a good upgrade. I would recommend the AOC Q27G3XMN or one of the variants
>>107814835it might be in the works but they haven't said anything yet
>>107814827any pics of the side behind the motherboard? or is that a custom psu?
>>107814797>Always has beeni have to disagree. what i think is the normal cycle is that amd comes out with driver updoots that make the card work well enough to be a value proposition sometime after the release of their cards. it's not like nvidia doesn't go through the same cycle but they always seem to be a step ahead with hardware and drivers.the market is always shifting so it could be that one day amd comes up the winrar, bless 'em if they do.meanwhile intel has snuck up underneath them with arc and at the same time has fellated a load of money out of nvidia. this must make the amd shirts a little golden-parachute-antsy.
>>107814733It has always been the case, but at least this gen there was a legit reason to recommend the 9060 XT 16gb when it was $100 cheaper than the 5060 ti 16gb especially if you happen to be stuck with a pci-express 3.0 board and old as shit CPU on a 1920 display and had actually 0 money to upgrade anything else, For the other RDNA 4 cards the only valid arguiment would be if you actually MUST game on linux.
>>1078148329600 XT is an Ultra Performance 4K cardMaybe easy, but not high quality. 5060 Ti is a lot better as an entry 4K card because of the relatively high quality of DLSS when upscaling from low resolutions.
>>107814819is there anything close to msrp, you can always fix bad temps with a proper undervolt and custom fan curve unless you live in a humid place and dont have AC on the summer or something
>>107814835AMD are barely figuring out ray tracing and path tracing they are years and years away from neural shaders, neural materials or mega geometry
>>107814768FSR4 is worse overall than the DLSS 4.0 G1 transformer model; FSR4 is barely better than DLSS3 CNN models.NVIDIA card owners can choose between G1 or G2 models on a per-game basis and have the superior upscaler either way.Not a surprise Cyberpunk can't handle DLSS 4.0 or 4.5, considering the devs abandoned their proprietary engine development & upgrades.
>>107814895i thought they had something not unlike mega geometry in the works
>>107814895mmmmaybe, i read today they are hiring lots of ai folk, but maybe thats for the datacenter side where they have experienced gains
Why didn't GN go to CES? Now I have to wait for Computex for any in depth coverage
>>107814859DLSS invalidated any few % driver improvements that AMD cards used to get. 2070 Super is still relevant, while the 5700 XT is useless for modern games. Same thing happened with the 6700 XT vs 3060 Ti and 7800 XT vs 4070
>>107814911i cant see any scenario where amd would put those ai hires in radeon over instinct
>>107814819Just spend the bit extra and get a 5070ti of any make anon, you'll thank yourself in the long run
>>107814915yep it's like a pattern that repeats
>>107814914>indepth coverage on a convention floorlol
>>107814915>DLSS invalidated any few % driver improvements that AMD cards used to getnever really thought about it like that
>>107814915>5700 XT>6700 XT>7800 XT All bad purchases just how it goes with AMD
>>107814911They're making good progress with next-gen MI400 series GPUs.But it's almost impossible to catch up to NVIDIA's lead in 16K training data, that's partly why AMD is cooperating with Sony to develop their upscaler (and AMD doesn't want to pay all this expense on their own).
>>107814956meh who cares what anons buy as long as they know what they are buying, they're not your shekels
>>107814914The people at GN probably asked their sources to check for big gaming hardware announcements at the convention and decided it wasn't worth the expense.Those guys don't accept sponsored business trips.
>>107814859The issue with amd is their high end product always age badly, I'm not gonna start rambling about the past, look at the 5070 in specific this card was dogged on launch its been 1 year, and now look at it do cyber punk path tracing maxed at 4k with ultra performance dlss 4.5 and getting over 90 fpshttps://youtu.be/S4OkjAFU11U?si=hFqKQvoZmJQcyvN5&t=1655Obviously we are just at the start and this may not matter until more games with pathtracing come out and DLSS UP get better but this what usually happens to amyd cost for performance offerings that look good in raster since DLSS become a thing, now obviously who knows maybe FSR will also make UP good and it will run on RDNA4 but thats basicalyl what happen to previous cost performance flagships like the 5700 XT, 6700 XT, 7800XT, now for the budget options like the 9060 XT you were never really buying that card for pathtracing or 4k anyway and you truly needed the extra difference for maybe completing the build so its in that extreme budget when Aymd actually make a little bit more sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ydfKE1dffo190 FPS ON INTEL iGPUAYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
>>107814966>AMD doesn't want to pay all this expense on their ownthat is an excellent point, they are the underdog in the GPU and CPU markets, though the CPU side is doing better than the GPU side.
>>107814989idk anon they have yet to release their promised new laptop stuff, lets see what those look like when the benchmarks come out.
>>107814903Funnily enough that has nothing to do with the model, it has to do with Ray Reconstruction the denoiser not having a dlss 4.5 preset, so what you are seeing is that preset M and L with no denoising vs preset E which is the ray reconstruction preset
AMD 9800X3D or Intel 285k? Gaming and general use. Same price. 5080 card. I would like the more reliable CPU.
>made my choice>have to sit out for 18months+ waiting for 6090 (and ram pices) because I didnt take the 5090 pill in time and build at the bottom>my life is passing by at an alarming rate and I never have anything enjoyable to pass the time>how much of my life would not have been ray traced
>>107815016>the more reliable CPU285K
>>107814989AMD's laptop SoCs have been easy targets; even Intel started to take shots at AMD's ancient RDNA3 silicon.AMD's been feeding trash iGPUs for too long, and NVIDIA's planning to grab a slice of that underserved market with Intel.
>>107815016X3D is better at gaming, 285k productivity shit. Unless you do a lot of CPU heavy work get the X3D
>>107815024raytracing looks at best equal to pre-baked lightning and usually worse at a massive performance penalty just to enable devs to be lazy shitheads. I hate it. Raster was best.>Look at this wet slab of concrete, a perfect mirror! Just like real life Wow raytracing is so fancy!!!Piss if im honest. Never playing a game newer than 2020 or so.
>>107815010>so what you are seeing is thatIf people post WEBMs out of context, the rest of us are going to work with the incomplete information that we're given.Thanks for confirming it's a Radeon cope either way.
>>107815016on cookie cutter ram setups? intel will be annihilated in comparison this is how it looks running 8600mhz fully tuned ram with the latest intel in comparisonkeep in mind it will be beyond worse with shit tier ram
>>107815030Wait, it's really burning out? >>107815049Is it much better for gaming or just some min maxing frames type of stuff? I rather take a hit in the frame department and not burn my house down. Same reason I didn't get a 5090 even though I could.
>>107815054>Never playing a game newer than 2020 or soyer a fukken LUDDITE, anon, gods help you for it
>>107815070Bartlett lake 12p on gigatuned ram is going to leave 9800x3d and error lake in the dust with sub-50ns memory latency....
>>107815072It's noticeably better for gaming
>>107815054What I want to see more of ray tracing is in fantasy games with giant ice/crystal caves where it would actually matter, but nowadays devs are too lazy to have any artistic vision.
>uses the ASrock image for the 20th time Spam faggot needs to remember microcode and oxidation faggotry over the last 3 years. That's why I swapped for CPUs.
>>107813615it makes no sense how they came from that to thiseven with samsung, their ddr5 b-die had similar characteristics to their outgoing ddr4 b-die like some voltage scaling and temperature sensitivity
>>107815070I have some basic bitch 64GB, 6000mhz ram. I don't plan on getting anything else anytime soon as it costs like a whole new PC.>>107815084Is it safe though?
>>107815088i swapped because using raptorlake feels like getting punched in the face whenever i see it chewing through 150-210W in games. all for slightly less performance than the 7800x3d which pulls like 40W in games
>>107815081go to bed Jewfus
>>107815081>Bartlett lakeNever ever.
>>107815059the shillposter lurks in the fetid waters of the /pcbg/ cesspool, a slimy brown post-late night taco run turd bobing in the filth of it, watching the post count, waiting for the opportunity to claim jump the thread once again.what are your wagers, anon? will the shillposter "win" once more? will some shizoid rando once again pluck /pcbg/ back towards the bastions of a neutral but flawed copypastad OP?so many keks.
>>107815092>I have some basic bitch 64GB, 6000mhz ram. I don't plan on getting anything else anytime soon as it costs like a whole new PC.expect even worse perfromance
AYYMDEADPOORFAGS STATUS?
>>107815081>5.5ghzIts over. Intel has lost its one advantage -- clockspeed. By the time it's released, even amd's X3D will clock higher at 5.6ghz out of the box
I bought a server for server stuff. It has 2x Xeon e5-2470v2 CPUs. They're Ivy bridge old shit but the server has 128GB of RAM and I want to add a good GPU (Nvidia for CUDA stuff) but don't want to get something new because I'm locked to PCIe 3.0. What's the best PCIe 3.0 card I can get? That or a PCIe 4.0 card with actual x16 lanes on the card so I don't bottleneck too hard.
>>107815139The Blue team has taken second place
>>107815145you make me wish i had an llm that could parse that into a blue board rated picture
>>107815092>>I have some basic bitch 64GB, 6000mhz ram.Timings?get the AMDIf it was SK Hynix A-die you could OC that ram, ARL needs fast ram because if its designThe 9800X3D may explode on an asrock board and still comes with the usual ryzen shenanigans but can't be beat in gamingwell until the 9850X3D
>>107815160it's such a rushed and poorly constructed sentence i feel the need to delete it.
>>107815151>What's the best PCIe 3.0 card I can get?GTX 10 or RTX 20 series cards, 1080 Ti or 2080 Ti, unless you're shopping for Quadros.Quadro cards should have better reliability.>That or a PCIe 4.0 card with actual x16 lanes on the cardRTX 30 cards (except for 3050) have 4.0 x16 lanes.RTX 40 cards (except for 4060 & 4060 Ti) have 4.0 x16 lanes.TechPowerUp's GPU database helps you find these cards.https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/?f=pcielanes_x16~pcie_Gen%203_H~mfgr_NVIDIA~year
>>107815191>Quadro cardsmay be more reliable but they suck for /gayming/, the drivers are not optimized at all for that.>t.have owned Quadros
>>107815146unlocked power it'll probably sit at 5.7 all-core under full load just like the 14900k does, based on the max turbo boost cited. Nothing to complain about there. Comparing clocks cross-architecture is faggots, especially with shitlets throwing dog latency and bandwidth limits into the mix.
>>107815191Looking at used cards I can get on eBay, I can get RTX 3060's, 3060Tis, 2080Ti, etc but for any card worth a fuck quality wise, they're all like $350. For $429 I can get a brand new 16GB 5060Ti. I know it only utilizes 8 lanes of PCIe 5.0 and as such it would only be using 8 lanes of PCIe 3.0. In a real world scenario, how much would I be holding the card back? I.e. Would I get more performance out of a power hungry 2080Ti vs a 5060Ti using less lanes?
>>107815151Older PCIe versions don't limit newer cards most of the time. You can pretty much get what you want, you're obviously not in the market for a 5090
I regret my 7900xt purchase :/
>>107815223>how much would I be holding the card back?Not at all due to your CPU holding it back way more. Ivy Bridge? DDR3? In 2026? Even with 128GB that PC is e-waste.
>>107815232You were warned about AMDRDNA3 was treated especially poorly by them
>>107815239
>>107815236yeah I got it for cheap cheap because I'm doing editing and VM work. Originally it was only going to be used for those things but I figure if I can just toss a GPU in there and make it a passable gaming build for 1440p 75fps gaming, then great. That and help with rendering.
>>107815223Performance loss is probably minimal given 5090's data.You also need to consider OS compatibility for the newer cards. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-pci-express-scaling/
>>107815236ivy bridge server crap on quad channel ddr3 will probably perform similarly to zen 1 on ddr4 in gaymes.Which is to say Not Great. I can't remember the last time someone in this thread, even poorfaggots on ancient hardware, claimed to be using a Ryzen 5 1600 or 7 1800 etc.
>>107815223
>>107815232Told you to stop at the 7800 XT or the 7900 GRE if you absolutely needed a Radeon card.>I bought it before those cards came outDiscounted 6900/XT may have been the better buy at that time.
>>107815267>consider OS compatibilityi wonder when the respective card vendors will jump on the "windoze 11 is required" bandwagon, the faggots at dell already pozzed my monitor software, won't run on 10 or any IoT build (10 or 11).
>>107815267>>107815279yeah he is not getting these relative performance numbers on a piece of shit xeon from 14 years ago.
>>107815232The rug pull was pretty brutal, desu.
>>107815267>>107815279OK cool,thanks. I think I am just going to get the 16GB 5060Ti for $430>>107815268I found a random video of a dude playing Warzone 1 at 1080p with the Xeon e5-2470v2 and like a GTX 1060 6GB and he was getting 65+ Fps on mixed settings. I'm only trying to play shit like some Apex Legends, Elden Ring, some Resident Evil titles
>>107815223PCIe lanes don't matter much. Back in the day they used to be very important for SLI performance (you wanted a mobo with 2 proper x16 slots) but right now with single-GPU systems they're not super important as long as you don't drop to like 1 or 2 lanes or some such.
>>107815287He would not get the 100% even if it had pcie 5.0 to begin with since it bottlenecks back a 5060 ti.
>>1078152155.7 seems like wishful thinking when that one intel twitter leaker said 5.5ghz all-core
>>107815232And I regret my 9060 XT 16GB. Instead I shouldn't have purchased SHITThese companies are fucking with consumers for shits and giggles
>>107815286I remember you from the fwt why are you even installing monitor software
>>107815306even the techpowerup article for 14900k said they got 5.5ghz- after it released. Mine does steady 5.7 unlocked on auto multiplier. Leaker is probably wrong. I am going off the 6.0 and my intution though, maybe it is 5.5. Either way it'll outperform 14900k at 5.7 just due to the far smaller ring.
>>107815316>These companies are fucking with consumers forshekels, anon, never forget what it's all about
>>107815289It's hilarious reading all the 7900 XTX buyers getting a 4090, 5080, or 5090 afterwards.These posts are so easy to find, two on the front page of /r/nvidia.You know that generation was shit when even the mentally ill Nicotroon knew better to wait™ for RDNA4 cards.
>>107815325the ring should be roughly the same since all they did was change out the four e-core ring stops for four p-core ring stops
>>107815330>7900xtx to 5080>going backwards in vramdamn...ts tuff...
>>107815322>why are you even installing monitor softwarebecause without it I have to twiddle a joystick on the back of the monitor like a FILTHY HEATHEN to change settings. also because i like to see what it does, i uninstalled the one for my last monitor to save on RAM after a while, i'll probably do the same with this one.
It's the same guy mad as hell that he got called out that he owns a 4070 and spams the thread with schizo images
did I miss something? why are so many people ditching AMD GPUs? I was actually eyeing up a 9060 XT. Should I be looking at a 5060Ti instead?
any updates on the dlss schizo? did he get any new hardware recently? is he still on a 12gb 4070 and am4(not even x3d)?
>>107815351>>107815348>>107815353
>>107815341>without it I have to twiddle a joystickI understand that. Damned if you do...I'm still torn if I should move to Win11 Pro and do a massive debloat.... I really don't wanna get off IoT... but your posts fearmongered me on fwt
>>107815348nah we've got our amdanon as the meme du jour
Nvidia is still a nogo with their dogshit drivers on Windows 11 and Linux whats the point of being faster or better quality if you cant even finish a competetive match or your render crashes
>>107815351Just buy whatever's right for you.It's fine to get the 9060 XT if you're happy with what it offers.
>>107815351>Should I be looking at a 5060Ti instead?correct you will probably be abandoned by next year if you buy radeon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lNW6U1KRjc&t=152sVP at AMD basically accidentally letting slip here that you're fucked if you buy RDNA4, same as RDNA3
>>107815330and you'll see a lot of 9070xt owners upgrade to 6070ti's and 6080s next gen to enjoy neural rendering and dlss5's 3rd gen transformer model and 10x mfgintel can't dethrone amd's incompetent ass soon enough to become the 2nd largest gpu maker
i will not be satisfied until 0% of the pixels on my screen were generated natively. Jensen please bring me the horizon.
I'm really hoping SteamOS starts really getting popular with the release of the Gabecube. I don't want to leave Windows 10 for Windows 11 and a proper gaming Linux install would be nice
>>107815362>>107815122>we're on to you, you know. maybe no one will bother this time and you can "win"
>>107813176>didn't look up modern processors for years>thought we are stuck at shitty ~2.5 GHZ multicore CPUs>look up>high-tier CPUs are close to 5GHZ without "boost" thingWhat the fuckAnd I hear that it STILL can be not enough these days.
>>107815390Frequency hasn't really meant anything since roughly 2004-2006. Jesus, welcome back from your coma.
>>107815390Genuinely a software issue.
>>107815390we had shitty 3.6ghz hexa cores 15 years agocpus got giga clocked to 5.5-6ghz in 2022-2023 with the latest tsmc 5nm and intel 10nm ESF++ process nodes
>>107815382Nvidia GPUs aged like milk on both Windows and Linux
>>107815390and rumor has it that tsmc's 2nm used in zen6 later this year will push clocks to the mid 6ghz to 7ghz though I'm doubtful about that
>>107815351I have a 9060 XT and I'm telling you: if there's any chance that you might do something else besides gaming, forget that card and go team green
>>107815407That chart shows the performance state when Nixxes & Insomniac were out of their depth wrt PC port optimizations.Right is what happens when the same devs get their shit together.
>>107815419what specifically displeases you about the non-gayming aspects of the device, anon?
the destructive urge to earlybake just to deny the dalit the chance to make a thread...
>>107815444noooo, where is the fun in that?
>looking up parts for past few months making a parts list in my head>getting ready to start buying the parts>be in home town visiting parents>they live near a best buy that actually has some parts in stock, figure I'll go pick up some stuff I had my eye on (SSD, keyboard, mouse, monitor)>walking around FUCKING BEST BUY and come across the Alienware section>admiring how much power is in the system (9950X3D, 5090, 64GB RAM)>maybe some day>parents ask if that's something that's good because they don't know what they're looking at>tell them yeah one of the most expensive but really strong>we leave, I go home>come visit 2 weeks later>parents bought me the fucking thing>"anon we even had one of their guys from the nerd gang or whatever make sure it's 100% ready to go for you!">even got me an OLED monitor>looking up prices, they just decided to drop almost $10k just because>"well you looked like you really wanted it and money isn't really an issue"I now have an Alienware PC and the salesman got my parents for everything warranty and extra program. They even got had for a paid copy of Eset and MS office
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-xe3p-nova-lake-integrated-graphics-reportedly-20-25-faster-than-panther-lakesINTEL INNOVATING AND BRINGING PERFORMANCE WHILE AYYMDEAD GIVES YOU REGURGITATED REHEATED POODNA3.5 SLOP
>>107815396Been using the same laptop for years and I didn't touch newest games>>107815402I think so as well, especially with everyone using Unreal Engine with not a lick of optimization skill>>107815416oh shit
>>107815466you do know that the truth does not have to be shitposted like it came out of the shills cloaca, right? chill, anon, we like your facts here.
>>107815461You have great parents anonPost some pics of your new pc too
>>107815461Are your parents looking to adopt more children (I am a full-grown adult)?
>>107815461you must be 18 to post here. your /pcbg/ is fail, because you didn't assemble it with your greasy, tendie-stained fingers.>nice compooter tho
>>107815396frequency is how intel stayed competitive against zen2 with a 5 year old architectureit is also the reason why gtx1000 and rtx4000 was so powerful
>>107815466>Intel dominated in the late 90s/early 2000s>AMD dominated in the mid 2000s>Intel dominated in the early 2010s>AMD dominated in the late 2010s/early 2020sIts time for the narrative to flip again. Tale as old as time. Expect innovation from AMD again sometime in the mid 2030s.
>>107815497/pcbg/ is also the Prebuilt Computers Buying General these days
>>107815507*yawn* booooring.
>>107815522trust me, im much more bored at the ''frequency doesnt matter'' disinformation crowd than you are of me
>>107815507eh. i5-10400f didn't need frequency to soundly beat zen 2, just the 500 series ram oc unlock. They were still playing catch-up then. Where amd really shone was in value when you could get roughly i7-8700 performance for just $150. They threw that away starting with Zen 3 by doubling prices, and it's only gotten worse as the indian jews are now gouging $500 for 8 cores in 2026.
>>107815487I'll post a pic in the battle station thread if that's still a thing when everything is all set up>great parents yeah they're awesome. I think they may be feeling a little guilty though too. Little sister went to med school and they paid out of pocket for her and college is crazy expensive ofc. Dad even sold his project car for her. I became a welder after highschool, got into a union job, then started traveling for pipeline welding. They spent like 1/16th on me what they did her lmao.>>107815491>I am a full-grown adultsame here which is why I was so surprised. As for adoption, I think my dad is enjoying being finally kid free in the house.>>107815497I was gonna be I swear. My last build was built by me. I wasn't expecting any of this shit.
>>107815530only benchmarks are the Truth
>>107815533>think my dad is enjoying being finally kid freekid-free dad here, wrinkly free-range sex happens.>you will never look at the couch the same way again
>>107815533you're lucky that dell got their act together in 2023 and actually puts out good gaming pcs now. even their custom designed graphics card is good
>>107815549yeah he was telling me about that without getting too deep into detail>"it's a good thing your mom got her tubes tied and we can't have another because woowee boy, we be going at it like we're back in highschool"Thanks dad I guess, pass me a beer
>>107815461Thank them and then use this as a learning experience to keep a lid on your power level. Love your parents while they're still around. They mean well.
>>107815568with how they flippantly spend they prob wont leave much of an inheritance tho lol
>>107815356>fwtif it was me, yes i boughted a full retail license (cheatmode: wifey gets employee discount), and i debloated it, mostly because /fwt/ told me not to.
>>107815568I cannot wait to play Ironman old school runescape using runelite launcher on HIGH settings. Hopefully this new system can handle it.
>>107815577Knowing how liberals spend and our future taxes, it's better to use the money now or ask them to start donating to a Roth IRA instead for you will be ideal. >>107815578Teach me your ways/any tips for doing a Pro debloat instead of E IoT.I have no love for OneDrive, that shit is going away asap.
>>107815597>Pro debloatfor me it's a mix of stuff i know plus Winhance, thats what works for me, but there are other tools. Test them all in a dev build, make notes, then do a clean install with your notes.
nvidia driver fix status?
>>107815380until linux gets good nvidia support its going nowhere
>>107815631the support would be AMD on Linux, as per usual. But the Gabecube using custom AMD CPU/GPU hardware would mean mainstream and profit driven development and upkeep for AMD drivers/software.
>>107815631Intel also said they don't currently care about gaming on Linux
>>107815629fix for what or just shillposting?
>>107815629Grok, bring up the screenshot of a 6 month old video showing nvidia drivers bad again.
>>107815167>The 9800X3D may explode on an asrock board and still comes with the usual ryzen shenanigans but can't be beat in gamingThis worries me. As for timings I'm not that savvy to know this shit. It's just some shitty Micron 64GB, 6000Mhz DDR5. I'm not that spoiled for choice in this economy and shortages. I should've built last year...>>107815135Yeah but does it really matter? I have to be honest... I don't trust AMD. I had one of their CPU's like 4 years ago and it was a nightmare.
>>107815647i doubt they would shift the needle even if they were to go all in on linux driver support
>>107815658>I had one of their CPU's like 4 years ago and it was a nightmare.probably a skills issue.
>>107815677>i doubti disagree. if any one of the big players went full tilt into linux support it could make a big difference in just a few years time.
>>107815380The GabeCube will be over $900, it’ll be DoA for normiesRetards should’ve subsidized the console over the deck…
>>107815723i'm budgeting to get one for the lulz, will give as a gift to my wife, she told me she wants to /gayme/ and we don't have a console
>>107815688Maybe but I had constant driver problems, sometimes heating problems and it wasn't a good experience. It was the third PC I've built but as I've said I'm not too good with this stuff.
>>107815658quick search about 9800x3D gives just one loud case being talked over and over and its not even proven that processor itself is to blame. Why spread rumors
>>107815731another garbage post>we see you, anon
>>107815723For 900$ it will be fine but if they want to succeed it needs to be 800$-700$.
>>107815750If the 9800X3D is so great why all the corpos are putting the 285k into their end game gaming rigs?
>>107815761>why all the corposevil backdoor licensing and contractual agreements, e.g, channel stuffing, the time honored tradition of screwing your competition by flooding the markets
>>107815761Corporate contracts are all about partner relationships, supply volume and bulk discounts and not so much about product performance
>>107815761Some people are more comfortable with owning and tweaking Intel CPUs, -X3Ds provide better gaming performance.Whether that performance advantage is worth it at higher resolutions is another matter.
>>107815648>>107815649shit is broken on windows everyone tells you to revert back to 566.36 which is from LAST YEAR
>>107815788You're a poor Indian with a discounted ASRock 7900 XTX, stay in your lane.
SteamOS can be installed on many existing systems already, I repurposed an old AM4 board for it. With ITX you can even make it quite small, even with a dGPU. But I guess normies don't have extra computer laying around
>>107815804no bully.>>107813185>>107813377>>107814138
>nicotroon spammingIf you want to see who uses Intel Ultra vs AMD X3D go see latest builds on PcPartPickerX3D and thread ripper builds with Nvidia GPUs are the peanut butter and jelly on that website recently Just don't have loyaltyAlso this is coming from someone was Intel only until recently Ryzen 9 due to the microcode incident
>>107815810i have a bunch but would want a proper amd build, for which i have no spares
>>107815822>someone was Intel only until recently Ryzen 9 due to the microcode incidentditto
>>107815440Not that wasn't aware, but ml-software is vastly under-cooked and software support for 3D rendering etc is just not there yet. I don't use it, so just saying.
>build PC>everything great>suddenly internet drops from 1GB to 10MB>can't fix it>everything worked perfectly on my old PC>out of desperation get a new cable>problem fixedHoly shit what a fucking relief. No idea why my old cable worked perfectly in my old PC but refused to work on the new PC.
Are Zotacs GPUs shit? People used to avoid them or is the situation so dire now that people overlook it so long as they can have one good gpu?
>>107815876Zotac is alright. Recommend vertical mounting because they put the bottom memory chips too close to the pcie connector.
>>107815876Zotac is bottom of the barrel always but if you can get one cheaper that the others are this point go for it
welp, because the shillposter claim-jumping the thread we again now have a new thread that has surpassed the old one. what an asshole.
>>107815876Get what you can if the price is close to MSRP. You have 2 years of warranty and any card can crap out. I got a Gigabyte Windforce dead straight out of a box anda MSI GTX970 work for 11+ years without issue. Never tried Zotac but now is not the time to be picky if you are building.
>>107815876They're just an easy target; none of their card models clearly stand out in a good way.One of their RTX 5090 caught fire while running BF6, but Igo's Lab thinks the PCB was damaged while in transit.>The original poster, york4517, says the machine was a store-bought NZXT prebuilt. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/zotac-rtx-5090-reportedly-catches-fire-during-battlefield-6-sessionhttps://www.igorslab.de/en/zotac-rtx-5090-device-on-fire-while-playing-battlefield-6-severe-damage-to-gpu-and-mainboard/
>>107815905grok explain what this post means
>>107815804wtf are you on crack anonhttps://www.google.com/search?q=nvidia+566.36+reddit+ol+reliable+site:www.reddit.com&sca_esv=1307f981479751f5&sxsrf=ANbL-n6bE_9szgk4CCDoVNHqdJasv4tILA:1767982397749&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjKyKXWh_-RAxWFtYQIHQt3GrgQrQIoAnoECBsQAw&biw=2048&bih=1003&dpr=1.25&aic=0
>>107815804Cope.
>>107815915know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.so this person likes to make a new /pcbg/ thread and post a biased OP and then shit on anything that isn't their favorite brand, and they have the habit of starting the new thread early so they can "win" control of it.Thus: >>107813185
>>107815952Stay in Reddit PCMR.>>107815962Projection.
yeah im gonna go shower and go shopping this thread has degenerated beyond the point of no return.Hope when i get back the next thread is better.HF with your PCs anons.
>>107816003>>107816003>>107816003>>107816003>>107816003
>>107815995>Hope when i get back the next thread is betterdoubt>don't forget to wash where the sun don't shine
back to only two threads now. good grief.
Hey right now the cheapest 2tb NVME SSD that I can find is the Gamestop NVME SSD 2tb with heatsink for Playstation 5. It's currently $170.Seems like decently fast gen 4 drive. Should I go for it?
>>107816407you should post in the new thread, this one is dead.>>107816005
>>107815658>Yeah but does it really matter? I have to be honest... I don't trust AMD. I had one of their CPU's like 4 years ago and it was a nightmare.do you want substantially worse fps in games? then yesif no then noeven a tuned 14900k is bettermaybe next gen intel is betterit performs subtnatially worse with them max optimal tune that you wont run sogunna run like shit stock
