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These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.

>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

A /pcb/ for every use case and budget!
Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ

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Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!

Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.

Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta.

remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.

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end e-cores
end chiplets
bring back white man cpus
buy bartlett lake
thx

>>107816042
>buy bartlett lake
Ok, where?

>>107816003

thank you, op-san, i hope you stay and guard your post to defend it from the onslaught of non-truth that will surely come it's way.

also the suggestion "ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)" was in the last thread and seemed like a legit complaint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rwp0NuqDlw
PSA to dont kill your PC by making this noob mistake

CES came and went and now I have to decide between pulsar and oled and 5K

>>107816061
>RAM fans
>55C is enough heat to kill desktop DDR5

what an utter shitshow

>>107816074
wait for china (KTC) to come out with their 4th gen woled in america. the intro price will be like $350-400

>>107816074
5K is nothing, personally I would rather have OLED over Pulsar but obviously both would be better

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingnewsandleaks/comments/1q88b1u/grain_of_salt_steam_machine_price_leaked_1000_for/

>Rumor: Steam Machine Price possibly leaked from a Czech retailer: 512GB model: ~$950 USD, 2TB model: ~ $1,070 USD
It’s over steamfags, PlayStation is king

>>107816083
ya i'm trying to come up with a good solution that isn't some chinkshit tiny ram cooler in my build, want to wash air over the RAM and mobo both, suggestions welcome.

>>107816099
i would still buy one for the lulz

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>>107816074
For me, since my main productivity PC is a mac mini, the choice is easy. I've been waiting for a 5K gaming monitor for so many years.
That MSI one apparently has a built in KVM, literally the perfect monitor except for its gaudy gamer design.

>>107816104
120mm fan ontop of gpu or swap the top case fan to intake which will cool your ram at the expense of hotter everything else by a couple of degrees

>>107816116
>spending over a grand for something weaker than the ps5 and on par with the series s
You do you I guess..

>>107816122
>built in KVM
my dell has that and it's a shit software implementation, it's bloated.

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interdasting

>>107816083
It varies by stick. Hynix seems to be okay up to 60-65c. Samsung or extreme profile kits will probably shit itself at 55c.

>>107816139
I have an old NEC Multisync at work and it works flawlessly. There's two downstream USB ports and you just pick which input you want tied to which. Change the input and it automatically changes the USB hub over to the other PC. I've wanted one in my home monitor for a while, currently I use a really shitty external which requires unplugging and replugging all the time.

>>107816162
Nothing is going to shit itself in or below the mid-60s unless you're changing trefi out of spec

>>107816162
I'm just glad I listened to the ram autists here and got a pair with Hynix A-dies

>>107816083
DDR5 seems like such a disaster. I'm glad I stuck with DDR4 for my recent build (2022), even if was just because I was being cheap.

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>>107816099
I wasn’t going to buy one at anything over $500. The specs don’t justify it. Sure, ram shortages and blah blah blah, but regardless of all that, this is just not worth buying. It’ll be below whatever niche is

>>107816186
Quality control is everywhere with these ddr5 sticks. Some dont even have temp sensors or only track one zone while some other zone is getting hotspot cooked. It's like NVMEs where your memory cells may be fine but your pmic is getting fried.

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So what monitor should I buy for my 5080? Buy something now? Wait? QHD or 4k?

Gracemont being skylake IPC is the biggest scam tech influencers ever pushed. These fuckin things perform worse than Pentium 4 in some scenarios. I don't know why. Great for rendering though sure.

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>>107816198
Just like the old Steam Machines. Garbage specs, sky high prices, all so you can get a console sized PC, which is kind of cool, but only if you've got money to burn and at that point, why not build a tiny ITX system?

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>>107816123
thanks for the suggestions but here is what i'm up against. the rear fan is an intake (and way overpowered 3k RPM, thank fuck for fan curves), AIO is exhaust. I need to rig something else, don't actually need the rear air intake as it's an AP201 case so full mesh and lots of airflow. GPU and CPU have no heat issues and RAM is also OK but i'd like to wash the RAM with air.

I'm hesitating on buying a HAVN BF360.
I like its looks and I'm running a 4000d (original).
It is worht it or should I just buy a lancool 207/meshify 3?

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even china datacenters are seething

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>>107816227
isn't capitalism just the greatest fuckery of all time?

>>107816213
I just realized the GabeCube probably has a power supply as big as the PC itself. The bane of every so-called "mini" PC.

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Isn't this shortage fake? It feels fake.
Just make more. Focus on making more. That's it.

>>107816218
some cases just cannot be redeemed

>>107816213
Even then you could probably build a ddr4 build for around the same price or even cheaper if you have a grand to spend
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yk8bnp
I seriously cannot comprehend why they would make such a weak machine so expensive, they probably had all the parts before the shortage, so what gives?

>>107816218
This case is much too small for your build.

>>107816253
No, they're not making more. They're betting on the implosion of AI as they saw banks are not lending AI companies and data centers more money to fund their pipe dream.

>>107816223
can run the fans so slow and it's quiet as fuck
easiest case I've ever built in and built like a tank
It weighs a fuckton though and I just laugh at it being considered a mid tower, it's still pretty big
if you put it on top of your desk it might completely dominate it

>>107816218
How do you manage your cables? Mines looks a mess :/

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>>107816269
there must be a way. i looked at the Noctua pic related but they want 45 amerishekels for it, it looks to be too big, and the clones don't have magnet mounts on the bottom.

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>>107816218
tight fit but you can make it work. put it behind the tubes and if you're worried of it falling ziptie it using your holes

>>107816282
I see thanks.
I have a small desk and no space on it anyway, so that won't be a problem

>>107816277
negro that is an mITX board floating in there.

Is the 5800x3d still in production?

>>107816238
Cronyism is fucked
You can't just give away money equivalent to the GDP of a small country to a single entity and not expect them to use it to 5d chess the world in some way

>>107816218
>all mesh, impossible to create any air flow
>no filters
>PSU mounted in line with the motherboard on the front??????
that is the worse case i've ever seen.

>>107816017
>Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027

If I can comfortably afford it should I just spent the $700-900 on 64GB ram for a new build?

Not doing this two months ago makes me sick but buy once cry once.

>>107816281
Banks don't matter govt boomers see cleverbot as an arms race and will print 10 trillion on a blank check to Sam Altman to try to keep us in it. The bubble wont pop for another 15 years.

Should you turn on Secure Boot in the BIOS? This is important right?

>>107816296
>ziptie it using your holes
not only does that sound painful but no. i am too autistic not to Properly Engineer a Solution. also systems integration work was part of my trade so again, no to zipties.

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>>107816302
Nope and they're going for $800 on ebay now

>>107816302
No, there are minor rumors it might go back in production
Don't count on it

>>107816310
>64
Unless you need it for your job 32gb will probably be fine for two years at least

>>107816302
only the spic 5500x3d.
Hope your microcenter still have 5600x3d or beg some x700/x800 owner for his used chip

>>107816319
certain anti cheats need it but if you dont play those games then leave it off

>>107816309
kek it runs cool and quiet, anon. pressurized internal airflows are not the only way to /build/. all components run comfortably within spec, but i won't try to OC my RAM until I know i have it bathed with some air.

>>107816319
you need it on to install winderz if thats your thing

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The Lancool 4 is just $130? wtf?
The Lancool 3 was 2x the price of the 216

I HATE MICROSOFT SO FUCKING MUCH

>>107816323
Did nobody tell these drooling x3d retards alder lake exists?

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>>107816295
with your cursed psu in front you would want a 90° fan shroud that re-directs the inlet air directly onto the mainboard and 3 fans to aid in dissipating that gpu exhaust

>>107816323
So the ones being advertised on eBay for $200 are deep fakes I take it?

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>Amazon third-party seller accidentally lists kits of 32GB of DDR5-6400 CL32 for $125 in mid-December
>place the order as fast as humanly possible
>estimated delivery late January
>delivered today
>boxes in pristine condition, sealed
I won.

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>>107816323
Yeah spending 800 dollars on a 5 yr old x3d chip is sane

>>107816322
im lazy so i'd just ziptie it and if you want even more airflow cut out the sidepanel

>>107816099
Yep. I mean for that price you can even build a more powerful PC yourself. For like $900 you can build a 5700X, 16gb ram, 5060ti 8gb and 2tb SSD build.

>>107816323
Am I dumb to keep my 5800X3D in my secondary PC instead of selling it? Its not my primary gaming rig, rarely used but I love the thing and don't need the money. Am I too jaded?

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>>107816367
Cases are pretty cheap these days.
There are some random outliers that charge like $500 for a case, but these are few and far between.

>>107816393
>>107816323
those $800 5800x3ds are bundle kits that include mobo, ram, stuff the person is obviously offloading from their build.

avg price for 5800x3d is $350-400

>>107816083
pretty sure my ddr5 sticks went >60°C during stress testing and produced no errors. and I tested them for hours

>>107816281
Good thing the US government is much easier to trick than the Irish who control the world's banks then huh?

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Your thoughts on the gamestop 2tb SSD? It's the cheapest NVME SSD I can find. Seems like a pretty decent gen 4 drive.

Should I go for it?

>>107816367
Cases are pretty cheap now. Even Fractal had to lower the Meshify 3 shitloads to drum up buyers. Only Hyte and Havn seem to be able to charge premium pricing now, and they don't make a lot of cases.

>>107816370
i thought about a shroud but - there are issues. One, the AIO plumbing is in the way. Two, the rear fan as an intake makes extra noise, though I could probably just use spacers for that. The GPU only exhausts at it's ass end on that side of things. And I have no need for bottom fans, the card blocks them anyway and it doesn't need any additional air. really >>107816296 is about what I need, i suppose i'll need to fab or buy up some brackets that attach to the standoffs or to the AIO fans and maybe use a 60mm fan.

>>107816444
It's more like $450-$500 now

What are your thoughts on normal SSD's? The old school plug and play ones?

>>107816426
You shouldn't sell hardware you love

>>107816458
if it still comes in the box sure thats kinda collectible. tray units are $350.

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>>107816454
>the card blocks them anyway
where does this retarded wisdom come from? your gpu has two inch space to the side wall and that is where the hot air exits.
Can you guess what happens without updraft? the fan short circuits and sucks the hot air back in

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>>107816408
>if you want even more airflow cut out the sidepanel

>>107816463
I mean right now it doesn't make sense to buy ones brand new. (a Sata drive tends to cost the same or more than comparable NVME) But they perform almost identically compared to the NVME ones in most games.

>>107816485
now think if it had a nice hole without mesh so the fan can be unobstructed

Since AMD is discussing Zen3 Re-releases... Do you think they will be ballsy and release a 5950X3D? We never had 8X3D+8 on AM4 before, but is there a technical reason for it to not work? With all the experience gained with AM5 mixed CCDs, this would be an amazing release

>>107816485
show me the numbers with and without the side panel

>>107816493
So if I can get one for half the price of a NVME one I should?

>>107816497
they are 100% not devoting any resources to binning AM4

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>>107816481
the only air that matters in this case comes out of the hole circled in orange, upwards and behind the ram. have you never used a full mesh case before? it's a /poorfag/ 5070, not some thermal monster.

>>107816497
they're not gonna be making new chips to one up the 5800x3d. those old prebuilt only skus that didnt sell like 5800xt are gonna be thrown to consumers.

>>107816426
It's the goat AM4 chip, you should keep it unless you need to pay rent one month or something

>>107816511
sure

>>107816397
>4
You better use all those

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LMAO Wood on the motherboards now

has science gone too far

>>107816579
Yup time to slot my 5090 house fire machine into the wooden mb

>>107816531
i thought it was a two fan design
my point stands for those

>>107816083
I wonder how much concessions will have to be made for DDR6 so gaymers can have their overclocked RAM

Mind you RAM that is not OCed is stable to 95C atleast, yet XMP/EXPO kits are giving up at 60C.

ASUS Prime OC 5070 for $696 worth it over the Gigaybyte WindForce 3 OC for $682?

>>107816613
is this in leaf monopoly money

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>>107816571
One for personal, and 3 for a downpayment on a 6090.

>>107816471
>>107816554
I will not let it go, you are the voice of reason here. Thank you, wise men

>>107816623
No, converted from Polish gold. It is worth adding I am comfortable with deshrouding and zipping on fans.

>>107816605
They can make the TREFI totally dogshit by default like server ram.

>>107816603
so with the open mesh the air coming from the cooler on the top of the GPU as you mentioned does not get trapped to recirculate as you mentioned and anything that bubbles upwards is not washing over the ram.

>>107816579
Disappointed that the ProArt 5090 wasn't just a hollowed out block of wood with the GPU inside.

>>107816645
on a two fan card it totally would, thats just how fans work.
one either need a seperator, strong draft or a velocity stack

>>107816579
>>107816647
I actually like stuff like the Jonsbo N4, white with the walnut front just looks great in the living room. But these wooden accents on these mainboards just don't do it for me. Its highly dependent on the case to show it off properly

>>107816665
anon i think you missed the part >>107816322
where i mentioned i have some experience getting paid to do this sort of thing. whatever, /pcbg/ is as usual completely and utterly useless.

i do however appreciate your input.

>>107816579
are those little pleather pulls i see on there? what decadent faggotry, the fall of rome surely cannot be far behind.

>>107816712
oh god I did not even notice that. We've come a long way from straight blue LED fans as the highlight of any PC build

Any good recs for AM5 motherboards?

>>107816684
I think it can look good.
The problem is that it's basically impossible to get a consistent aesthetic across all the parts (unless the aesthetic is black with RGB lighting), so you're pretty limited with what you can do and tend to just be better off going for a windowless case. So you'll never see that Motherboard.

>>107816579
Wish I didn't have my x870e already bc id buy this , would pair well with my Noctua

>>107816712
That faux Greek Alphabet didn't help.

Typical RTX 5080 Owner
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/s/bMSISCRiwt

>>107816745
What are your requirements?
X670E/X870E if needing lots of NVME
650/850 if not and not needing wifi7
Buy 8xx if cheaper or same cost as 6xx
But you're semi future proofing with the 870 for zen 6 possibly

>>107816739
>straight blue LED
i had one of the old shuttle boxes when blue LEDs first became commercially viable, the HDD activity LED was blue and it was as bright as a goddam lighthouse bulb, that fucker would blind you if you looked at it. one of my friends had the same and actually grabbed some silver model paint and dabbed it on there nice and thin to attenuate the output, you should have seen his face when i added an inline resistor to mine.

>>107816367
Cable management looks like going to be a nightmare in that case

>>107816770
Just building a gaming rig. Only gonna be using a single 1tb ssd, maybe two at most. I've got a 5070ti and 32gb of ram

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>>107816798
ewwww glowie fishtank

>>107816784
I would have been just as impressed as your friend! Very efficient and smart solution! Took me until my 25 until I really understood the inner workings of many electronical devices used in my PC

>>107816817
electronics is fun. i want to make an homebrew ARGB usb controller thingie but have no time for such fun stuff.

>advice from an old man: study everything you can, you never know what you'll need to get a leg up in the world.

>>107816807
Are you wanting to future proof?
At this point it sounds like basically any gaming version of 850/870 if wanting future proof
Asus, gigabyte, MSI
Look up videos, pcpartpicker reviews to get familiar with features

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Does it make any sense to buy a cheap temporary mobo just to test the parts I already have in hand to make sure they work before the return window expires? Haven't decided on a motherboard yet but also waiting for MSI's 64MB board refreshes in case AMD decides to be a cunt about the 32MB vs. 64MB BIOS chips for Zen 6. Already bought RAM, CPU and a PSU and want to make sure none of them are DOA, but don't want to commit to the full build at this point.

>>107816865
>make any sense
no, unless you just like spending your shekels on e-waste

>>107816865
Iktf but you gotta commit to a mobo
I do wish I could've gotten that gigabyte mobo above with wood but oh well

>>107816849
My first soldering project was a guitar effect pedal, self made tubescreamer. It worked, but it wasn't really reliable at first. I keep fixing stuff for ages, I think its a timeless hobby if you find the right niche. But I also already feel old in my late 30s. Been here since around 2007 though lul

>>107816003
>-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems
That's retarded though

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>>107816017
720p upscaling is now the way to go for 1440p gaming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mALAUIbSaA

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>>107816914

>>107816849
>but have no time for such fun stuff.
It could be simpler than you think. Most microcontroller dev kits start you out with Hello World (USB-UART) and blinky (LED) code examples.

>>107816914
Ignore the nicotranny

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>GPU releases are being to be pushed up to 3 years between releases
>This only increases the value of buying a **90-series on release as you will have the best perf guaranteed for 3 solid years (AMD does not compete)
>one more year to save up your shekels + the sustained value/increase value of **90 series
>the more you buy the more you save increases even more
>90 series is the best gpu to buy
save up your shekels, you got 18 months left until 6090 release, and you must buy on release to extract max value for the next 3 years after that, if you don't buy on release you will have no gpu for 3 more years

What size is the average pc part cable? 16-18 awg?
Why not just go for 12?

>>107816914
it's possible that amdanon is the one who started the thread. as always, never believe anything you read on 4chan.

>>107816030
Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.

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After having 4 of my decent RAM orders cancelled I just sniped 64GB of 5600Mhz CL40 RAM for 300 eurobucks. How badly screwed am I if I pair it with a 7800x3d or 9800x3d?

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>>107816930
anyone can post a random thing with no context, anon

>we all know what the truths are

>>107816972
X3D barely cares about RAM speed. I paired my 7600X3D with 2x16 Gbyte 4800Mhz because I got them stupidly cheap

>>107816972
you can use 4800mhz ram and be within top tweaked ram in most user cases*
>300 eurobux
64gb 6000c30 costs 900€ so I guess you did ok

the jews of pcbg talked me out of sniping 4800mhz 64gb for 230€ and now it got removed from being ordered, it's over

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>>107816999
>pcbg talked me out of
you fool, you should know better than to listen to us.

>>107816914
nice catch, anon, we appreciate the due diligence. i shall append it to the amdshillanon FAQ.

>>107816994
>>107816999
Thanks now all I have to do is pray so my order doesn't get cancelled. AGAIN.

I managed to find a 2TB 990 Pro for $120 and now that prices are double and rising weekly it feels like I got the last chopper out of Saigon

Threads moving slow
What do we think of the case section of the op?

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

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The HDD in my uncle's computer is dying so I have to buy a new storage drive to replace it, but what's going on with HDD and SSD prices I thought it was only the RAM that's absurdly high???
The graphs of everything look like this and a 1TB HDD is barely any cheaper than a 1TB SATA SSD...

>>107817249
The O11 Air Mini is discontinued and Deep Cool got sanctioned

>>107816865
god, I hate the return culture. buy it or leave it

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>>107817152
pov the total and utter embodiment and manifestation of tfw you didn't buy bought the ram in 2025 (spoiler ahead)
https://youtu.be/NMks2lzAaPE?t=354

>>107817279
It's gonna get a way worse with "demand based" pricing

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>>107816632
>No, converted from Polish gold.
Mamy naprawde przejebane z tymi cenami.

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Noctua D15S
Or
Noctua D15 G2?

9800X3D, ram is 44m height. Can't tell if I will be able to offset or not due to GPU on my mobo.

I care about noise. I don't want AIO. Thoughts?

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>>107816914
>>>107816003 (OP)
>>-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems
>That's retarded though

Hey /pcbg/ lets discuss this, we all know the 12VHPWR is a shit design for high current scenarios.

>we know that nvidia has this problem with it's higher current draw cards
>we know that amd has this problem with it's higher current draw cards
>we know that nvidia has about 92% market share
>we know that amd has around 7% market share
>we know that intel has around 1% market share but none of their weak-assed cards have gone up in flames yet

So if lets say, 10 nvidia cards had 12VHPWR go up in smoke, and 3 amd cards had 12VHPWR go up in smoke - the failure rate of amd cards with the problem is proportionally higher based on the market share overall, is this a correct hypothesis?

Have there been any reports of this happening on the midrange competitor to the 9070XT, the 5070ti, which is not a high-current draw card?

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>>107817394
>I don't want AIO.
POV live ex noctua user in pic related swapping to 360 aio

>>107816323
I have a new and unboxed 5800X3D, if I were to sell, would I get a lot of shekels?

>>107817411
>Have there been any reports of this happening on the midrange competitor to the 9070XT, the 5070ti, which is not a high-current draw card?
yes also are you assuming this has not happened to the 9070 xt using this connector? also has

>>107817433
did you read the post, anon? it's in there.

>>107817411
>>we know that amd has this problem with it's higher current draw cards

why would you ver reply to a frognigger

>>107817447

>>107816030
>and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing

>>107817422
They sell for more than a 7800x3d still

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/TothBrush/saved/NhQLwP this is everything I currently have for my main PC setup. It's all just stuff I currently own. The XG270HU 27" 1440p IPS monitor is damaged and the other monitor I have is fairly low quality (qhd, ips, 100hz) but it works when I need it to.

I'm looking to upgrade the monitor and hopefully get an x3d chip.
For 200-400 usd can anyone recommend a good monitor to upgrade to? I need something with good color quality/contrast for doing zbrush, houdini fx, 3d modeling stuff in maya and texturing work in substance painter. I want either a mini-led or oled and also preferably a high refresh rate too for gaming.

Any other upgrade advice you can recommend? I also want a big fat 8TB hdd for 4k videos and a 2tb nvme ssd for projects but it's not critical atm

>>107817422
sell it to me!!! I need to upgrade from my 5700x to a 5800x3d for vrchat performance.

>>107817418
Fuck off monitor schizo.

>>107817394
>I care about noise
Get a NH-P1

>>107816605
>concessions
dedicated cooling, potentially a heatsink for each stick

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-dlss-4-5-test-on-rtx-50-40-30-and-20-series-shows-12-performance-loss-on-ampere-turing-series

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so whats stopping AMD from bringing the DDR4 memory controller version of zen 4, as far as i know they got the low end of the Ryzen 7000 series to have working prototypes before ditching them for the DDR5 only memory controller

>my $230 96gb of DDR5 sticks still haven't been shipped
It's been over 2 weeks.

those ram and gpu and aios when screens look so fuggin retarded

>>107817535
with*

>>107817269
lol you thought prices would go down

WHY WOULD PRICES EVER GO DOWN

SSD - UP
HDD - UP
RAM - UP
CPU - UP
GPU - UP
CASES - UP

>>107817269
People warned that the dram crsis was going to effect SSD prices. Instead of making NAND flash they are making HBM.

HDD prices are also rising because SSD prices are rising.

>>107817535
u havin' a stroke, m8?

>>107817394
>ram is 44m height

I'm just going to put a 120mm fan on the front for my hugeass GSkill ram with the razor blades on top

>>107817562
it may be the memeshillanon, it tends to panic when anons post stuff like >>107817411

>>107816003
>Gaming: 14600K
>-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems
I see this OP is still keeping up its tradition of bad advice

so guys when is the 50 super series out

What's the point of a 5k monitor? You can't even game on it at 4k

So my mobo came with a little bracket to put a tiny fan near my ram. Does that actually help? I don't really have space for much else but it does not feel like it blows a lot of air

>>107817665
If you're overclocking maybe

>>107817627
2 hijacked ops mixed into one
those retards think they hold the truth
he still has no answer as to why lg1700 is still on the op yet am4 is ignored, mind you i would only recommend up to 12th gen but seems like im satan for suggesting such thing

>>107817627
discuss the actual thing tho >>107817411

>>107817634
kek it just gets a new IP and comes back.
>your only weapons are the truth and >>107816030

>>107816223
Why do you want a new case? Just because of looks?

>>107817665
post pics of it or you're just spamming

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>>107817683

>>107817673
>he still has no answer as to
who is this "he" you are referring to?

>>107817719
what motherboard is that?

>>107817728
Asus z890

>>107816003
Buying a 50 series nvidia gpu is absolute mark tier behaviour and should be treated as such

>>107817673
>he still has no answer as to why lg1700 is still on the op yet am4 is ignored
Because am4 is still more expensive while being slower than the alternative on lga 1700
14600k is kind of a hold out from when pricing was better, though if someone was trying to build around ddr4 there's not really many (or any) consistently better options

>mind you i would only recommend up to 12th gen
13/14600k were never really bad with burning up like the i7/i9s, but even those the issue is fixed now.
14600k is going to be faster than a 12900k in video gaymes, and everything else they're not that far off.

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>>107817665
>>107817683
>>107817719
>>107817728
cat got your tongue, anon, or did i break your larp?

>>107817466
I will continue delivering high quality informative replies that contain actual information that will find out after purchase thank you very much
your post contained 0 value btw

Are you ok anon?

>>107817673
>>107817721
anon you do know that any random schizos can (and do) create the threads? even you can make one and call it /pcbg/ or whatever and open a discussion so long as it follows the site rules.

>>107817848
the ones giving >us the traffic itt are no more than 2 anons
just because they removed the ip count it doesnt mean im retarded like them or that i cant see shit

>>107814403
>How is this not just as cringe as fanboying for valve or nvidia (many of them are fanboying for valve too though)
I feel like Valve is the least evil of any gaming corporation around though.
If you're going to buy something that just werks and is as botnet-free as you can get, Index is going to be it.

>>107817669
So not really OC but the ram is a pretty fast kit, so it probably counts, so I guess it's probably useful, just hard to run at high rpm due to noise

>build pc
>no cpu whine
>boot up today
>cpu whine nonstop, loudest when gaming

What could’ve changed? I haven’t done anything to my PC in settings or updated anything.
Even idling brings slight coil whine when I open menus or browse the internet, and it’s loudest when I game (any game)

>>107817992
if its coming from the cpu (motherboard) instead of the gpu then theres nothing you can do except swap it

>>107817678
My 4090 is really big and is probably starving for air.
It runs at ~70C most of the time when pulling >300W and my case fan compensate by running at a very high rpm.
I also have a 250€ gift card from my job that is expiring in February, so I thought why not buy a new case.
I originally used a 2060 when I bought the 4000d

>>107817992
room temperature could push it into whinemode in edge cases, more cooling and bigger PSU are the cheapest options that could but are not guaranteed to fix it.

>>107817992
>Even idling brings slight coil whine
Are you sure it's EM based and not mechanical?
Could be that a bearing in the fan has just worn slightly and is rubbing.

Third world poorfag here, is it possible to play semi-modern games on ddr3?
I think the only game from last year I’d want to play is baldur’s gate, other than that I’ll mostly playing tf2, cs:go and maybe fortnite

>>107818045
I got the 4000d myself, keep us (me) posted if you notice any temp differences with your new case

>>107816223
I don't recommend the Meshify 3 for a system with a 4090, unless you have a Founders Edition card; it's a fairly compact case.

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Found this pic on my old phone. Fry's Electronics black friday 2016

>>107818182
>1.3k for 16gb ram rig
would you look at that, prices are about the same

>>107818141
>is it possible to play semi-modern games on ddr3?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR9ntN-c7nM

>>107818141
yeah sure why not, a 6700 or something is still mostly usable

>>107818182
kek set a reminder to come back and post this again for black friday this year

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which of these is best? It's for creative work and maybe light gaming but mostly zbrush houdini maya and substance painter

>>107818272
>MiniLED

should i cuck myself and downgrade my ram from 64 gigs of DD4 to 32 gigs of DDR5? my 12700k is starting to seem long in the tooth and windows is now delaying when i hit shut down by 30 seconds to a minute before it even starts

OK boys more waiting. No more praying for RAM prices to fall. I'm doing it. I'm taking the dick deep in my guts of the price gouging cunts running this shit show. I'm sick and tired of this pre-built Dell with 4th gen i5. I want to play gaymes with my friends

What is a recommended speed and CL for DDR4?

redpill me on why framegen is bad

>>107818141
BG3 might have been optimized since I played it, but the third act is really CPU heavy. Still, might be playable by third world standards

>>107818038
seems likely
just odd that yesterday everything was fine and now it’s back and louder

>>107818126
yeah i’ve been testing it
this CPU/mobo had this whine whenever I stress tested it but never while gaming or idling
now it’s as loud equally as if I’m stress testing it

previously the option for acoustic mitigation worked in bios for a long time but now it seems it doesn’t

>>107818272
Cooler Master Tempest miniLEDs are notoriously trash.
You probably want to use a calibrated IPS monitor for color-critical work.
VA panels have viewing angle issues

>>107818342
3200 CL 16 if you don't know your CPU can handle 3600 CL 18

>>107818342
3200MT/s CL16 or 3600MT/s CL18

I need a 24GB GPU...

>>107818368
my current monitor is a KTC H27T27 which is an IPS monitor. It looks really bad but it was dirt cheap and I couldn't find any better deal on a 27" QHD. Is there anything specific you can recommend that is higher quality for <400 usd?

>>107817340
Indeed. I could have boughted a 3090 Strix or 4070 Ti Super for that same price if I had been quicker.

>>107818389
The ASUS XG27ACG is probably the best budget 1440p IPS monitor atm.
It's a variant of the well-reviewed XG27ACS with a bit more glossy panel finish with an external power brick.
Still discounted to $200 on Newegg.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tFG2FT/asus-rog-strix-xg27acg-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-90lm0a70-b013b0

You'll still have to calibrate it with a colorimeter if you're planning to use it professionally.

Wtf do I buy as a GPU support bracket? Can't I reuse this rail with a platform that screws into the motherboard standoffs since I have an EATX case?

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Would you recommend a new 5060ti 16gb or an used 4070? How much will those 4gb difference be a problem in the future?

>>107818463
depends. If you're playing VRchat get the most vram you can find. if you're playing normal games then just get the fastest gpu you can regardless of vram as long as it's >8gb

>>107818389
Check if this QD-OLED monitor is in stock (if you have a Costco membership).
https://www.costco.com/p/-/msi-265-wqhd-qd-oled-240hz-amd-freesync-premium-pro-gaming-monitor/4000411993

>>107818489
fuck it why not. I'll drive over to costco right now and check it out. Is OLED really worth it? I'm really worried about burn-in but I also heard a rumor that modern oleds don't have that problem "at all anymore"

I always thought I'd hate glossy monitors but this CES...I dunno I'm being tempted

they look so good

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THE PRO ART 5090

The 5090s this year all look so good

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>>107818460
#2 pencil

>>107818522
why does that gpu have a prolapse

>>107818515
Can I buy it?

>>107818499
Yeah, OLED's definitely worth it. They still burn in but not as quickly anymore.

>>107818543
SOON

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/proart/proart-rtx5090-o32g/

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>>107818528
That's the hellstone

>>107818499
If you're okay with buying a replacement in 5~7 years, it's a decent purchase.
Burn-in is unavoidable, but your habits can change how quickly it happens.
I recommend you avoid setting brightness higher than 70~80 if you're worried about burn-in; high brightness accelerates it.
That monitor shouldn't need the brightness to be set higher than 40 for 150ish nits brightness for its sRGB profile.

My QD-OLED monitor's accumulated over 3,000 hours of usage (used for work too), and there are no signs of image retention.
You can raise the brightness level a tad higher in a few years if the difference ever becomes noticeable.

>2 year old high-mid range PC refused to boot a couple of times in the last few days but eventually did
>today it shut down on its own and won't boot at all
>motherboard RGB is on and a small red light on the GPU as well
>tried resetting CMOS, not it
>tried moving to a different power outlet, not it
>tried draining the power, not it
>tried taking out the GPU, not it
>tried the paperclip test with the PSU, spins a bit and then stops
>tried putting a confirmed working PSU in, not it
>tried the paperclip test with the confirmed working PSU, spins a bit and then stops as well
>tried starting it by touching a screwdriver over the power pins on the mobo, nothing

Any ideas? Could it be the Vmin Shift Instability? It's a 13th gen Intel CPU that I thought I patched but was never sure if I did it correctly

>>107818554
>devil
That card is evil, get rid of it and get yourself a 5070 TI you blasphemer

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NEXT GEN QD-OLED IS HERE

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>>107818569
>It's a 13th gen Intel CPU

So you guys buying into the big tech conspiracy to deprive users of technology, or leaning more towards this is a blip caused by market force that will eventually correct when supply improves?

>>107818577
>for those who dare
What in the ESL?

>>107818569
Which specific 13th-gen CPU? 13900K is the most vulnerable, much less likely (but still possible) on 13600K.
If you can't even boot to BIOS to downclock the CPU, start an RMA with Intel and get a replacement.
Use the board's CPU-less BIOS update feature (if it has one) to make sure the BIOS has the latest CPU microcode installed. (12F).

>>107818604
What that attitude you'll never join the Republic Of Gamers and go In Search Of Incredible

>>107818601
Not a conspiracy, but OpenAI helped accelerate that transition.

>>107818604
>he doesn't dare
never gonna make it (ngmi)

>>107818515
its really not hard to make a good looking gpu
a solid piece of plastic would be an improvement over most designs

>$250 for a new 2tb SSD
fucking grim. Guess I'll stick with my outdated shit

>>107818499
>I'll drive over to costco right now and check it out
It says Online Only deal, so gl...
I'd call the store before you make the trip.

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>>107818645
i didn't even notice lmfao

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Recommend me a small (25L or less) case that's all mesh, for mATX + ATX PSU. I'm trying to pick from the following in order of preference, since my original choice (Sama IM01 Pro) got discontinued:

Jonsbo D32
Jonsbo Z20
Lian Li A3
Asus AP201
SSUPD Meshroom D + Extender
Jonsbo C6 Max

>>107818463
I would recommend the 5060 ti over a 4070 based on the extneded warranty and the fp4 support, just look at what happen to the 3080 with dlss 4.5 now that it uses fp8, well when dlss moves to fp4 that will be the 4070 while youir 5060 ti will be laughing

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>>107818577
finally i can bing bing wahoo in hdr

Steam Machine price leaking at $900 for 500GB it's never been more over

>>107818709
The GPU spec is disrespectful for a 2026 launch product to begin with; it's not even about the VRAM capacity.
Valve was hoping they could leverage FSR4 support for RX 7600 tier GPUs.

>>107818709
what if it comes bundled with the orange box 2

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>>107818692
DAN B4 MATX COMING

Is Inno3d a good gpu brand? Never heard of it until now.

>>107818442
Try to get a 5070Ti or a cope 5060Ti 16GB instead.

is 70c under load good gpu temps

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>>107818807
these are the limits radeon start throttling so anything under is "working as intended"

>>107818779
Cheapest 5070 Ti that I ever saw going for was 2900 before going up, new 5070 Ti's at 3500-3700 usually so +1000 on average relative to the 5070 which is usually 2700 PLN. The 5060 Ti meanwhile is usually 2100. Decisions decisions for 3dfagging alright.

>>107818743
Seeing these large ass PSUs in these little cases cases unironically trigger me
YOU SAVE MORE SPACE AND HAVE A BETTER AIRFLOW IN THEM WITH AN SFX!!

>>107818814
what about a 9060xt/9070?
best price/perf around the globe (to me at least) seem to be 5070 and 9060xt

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I don't know how Jay does this shit man...

>>107818762
They are good their main market is the asian one though, but now they are expanding into europe

Why do 0 RPM fan modes even exist? My Gigabyte 5070Ti fans don't spin at idle even when the switch is on performance mode.

>>107818913
Do you want them spinning at idle? Because on nvidia that'll mean spinning at 30% minimum at all times

>>107818913
why have the fans spin if the temps don't require it? It's excess wear and tear on the fan bearings etc that don't need to happen

fans are meant to spin

>>107818927
fans are meant to spin at 100%

>>107818927
do you also hold your car at 5k RPM when you're sitting at red lights or stop signs?

>>107818913
you're causing more dust buildup when you don't use zero rpm. you also paid for the gigantic heatsink, you better use it. phones dont need a fan to watch youtube so why do you need 3 of them?

>>107818918
>Because on nvidia that'll mean spinning at 30% minimum at all times
I thought this was a problem with models like MSI Fentus only?

>0 rpm fan mode
doea this not cook vrms/memory chips

>>107818955
Nvidia mandates a 30% minimum fan speed on ALL of their newer GPUs
Once out of 0rpm mode that's the lowest the fans will spin

>>107818453
>colorimeter
Know any decent ones for non professionals that won't break the bank? I know I will be buying new monitors over the next year but I already spent a huge chunk of personal expenses on a new mattress, PC, storage and fridge this last year.

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>>107818955
If you try to alter the default fan curve, there's a safety feature baked into NVIDIA's vBIOS that forces a 30% minimum fan RPM.
You can thank MSI for all these GeForce restrictions; they decided to tard out a long time ago, and NVIDIA's started to enforce stricter GPU operating parameters.

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>>107818935
Yeah, I set the line lock and rip a fat burn out at every one.

>>107818965
you can check your hotspots but no it should be fine. The big heatsink on your card plus airflow from your case fans should be enough to keep them from cooking themselves when not under load. I had an RTX 2080Ti with the zero RPM mode and I used that card hard at the very ragged bleeding edge of it's overclock stability, overvolted memory etc, and it didn't have a single problem.

>>107818743
Think I'd rather go for an M2 or M3 for a more bougie look.

>>107818814
Go for AMD then.

>>107818743
>early Q2
damn, hurry up lian li

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>>107818860

>>107818984
These aren't exactly cheap, unfortunately.
The most economical way is to rent a decent colorimeter if you live in a metropolitan area.
https://www.sharegrid.com/

Datacolor has an official eBay refurbished shop.
https://www.ebay.com/str/datacolorcertifiedrefurbished

Calibrite's newer models can handle brighter HDR monitors like OLEDs, but these aren't cheap.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Shop-by-Brand-Calibrite/ci/4/phd/7472/N/4294255798

It's best to buy these during holiday sales.

>>107818965
36-46c is still safe

>>107818986
>overvolting
nostalgic those were the days

>>107818860
>>107819039
What did this retarded nigger do now?

>>107819073
killed a 2nd 5090

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>want to build pc
>already have all the pc I need

>trusting 600w of power in 12 pins
8x4 = 24 is better

>>107819087
>PC does everything I need
>Everything
>really everything

BUT IT'S NOT A 5090

I WANT THE 5090

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Guys I....I have to buy 128gb of ddr5

>>107818463
I would agree with the other anon and say 5060 Ti 16 GB between the two, but the real decision is between the 5060 Ti and the 5070. If you have the budget for the 5070, the 5070.

>>107818463
>Would you recommend a new 5060ti 16gb or an used 4070?
new 5060ti
50 series DLSS features are simply way better

>>107819095
>I have to buy
>I have to
>have to
If you absolutely need 128GB for work, the income generated by the PC will cover the expense.

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>>107817069
Imagine wasting your time trying to "snipe" too good to be true deals then waiting for them to not go through while prices continue going up. Nigga bite the bullet already buy a legit kit. This is turdie behavior.

>>107819089
Number of pins is an irrelevant metric. The issue is they chose the wrong gauge wire because they prioritized aesthetics over functionality.

>>107818740
I'm not even sure FSR 4 works on Linux

>>107819092
imagine just how much better your life would be if you had a 5090

>>107818927
If you really think about it, they are spinning, just at 0 RPM

>checked my parts stash
>only have ddr4 32 gb of ram
bros can i still be a gaymer?

>>107819095
it can't be helped then, do it now before it doubles again

>>107819198
>gayms
yup, 32g is more than enough

Sorry /g/ but that e-waste is the only non cucked(price wise since re-selling is law) option around here.

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POP

what can I do with my old 1050 ti? Keep it in a box?

>>107819357
Keep it as a diagnosis card if your main PC's card ever shits the bed.

>>107819198
>>107819223
>32g
For gayming I’d say (anecdotal) 48g is better middle ground

>>107819045
Thanks for sharegrid, I live near Denver and my sister lives downtown

When I buy new monitors I'll go visit her and rent one for the weekend
Cheers

>>107819139
As soon as I build my new PC next week and double check configuration/case layout I'm buying a cablemod cable for this exact purpose
2x PCIe from PSU to 1x 12v-2x6pin GPU

then again I doubt I will need it (5070Ti) but it will come in handy in case my next GPU has dual 12v-2x6pin so I can use both PCIe and the dedicated 12v-2x6pin outputs on my 1000w

Make it early to avoid that amdtard spammer, sorry
>>107819593
>>107819593
>>107819593

>>107818740
Why not run NVIDIA? FSR4 sucks ass.

>>107819616
Because NVIDIA’s 4060 tier chips won’t be cheap.
The Switch 2’s NVIDIA GPU is weaker than a 3050.
And NVIDIA’s notorious bullies to gaming partners.

>>107816243
It has internal psu retard

>>107818576
encouraging clicking onto the thread and seeing people saying to buy the card i already decided on months ago

>>107818695
>bing bing wahoo in hdr
Did you upscale the Mario/Peach tape?