>News & Rumors
Price rises for memory, storage, and GPUs expected to continue
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
OLED monitors with RGB-stripe subpixel layout are being released this year

>Omissions
OLED monitors: Buy a well-reviewed (owner feedback included) OLED at a discount; panels with true RGB subpixels will replace current offerings in the next 2~3 years.
Not worth paying full price for a WOLED or 3rd/4th gen QD-OLED.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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Will this hurt my case's airflow?

Premium: rtx pro 6000 Blackwell*

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AHH WHY DID I RUSH TO BUY A 12GB 5070 INSTEAD OF A 16GB 5060 TI OR 24GB 3090 AHH

>>108059489
not only that but also your chances with women

What mobo should I get for a Ryzen 5 5600GT? I'm eyeing A520Ms from MSI and Asus.

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>PC Figures
GPU: Noodle Stopper
<90mm base: Nendoroids, Deformed Figure, Mini Chara Stand
90-120mm base: Figma, Most Taito, Pop Up Parade (Non L/XL), Arylic Stand (<19cm height)
120-140mm base: FuRyu Prize, Pop Up Parade (L), 1/8 Scale
140mm+ base: Pop Up Parade (XL), 1/7+ Scale
AVOID Funko Pops, Beware of Bootlegs

>>108059545
A520 chipsets don't give you access to PBO overclocking options, but it doesn't make that much of a difference.

>>108059516
>3090
Didn't an anon say the non-ti 3090s are a tickling time bomb due to weak power delivery, destined to blow up if not already?

>>108059554
I was never really interested in OC. I'm hoping for a 10-year PC, I can't really replace parts every 3 years.

im schizo with my new oled glossy finnish monitor, do i just wipe it with a dry microfibre(glasses) cloth normally? i havent dared to clean it since i bought it 3 weeks ago

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dumb whore Su needs to shill more AI slop shit and shit on their customers!

>>108059566
Your monitor should have come with cleaning instructions in the papers. Distilled Water + Microfiber. Wipe side to side.

>>108059566
Ethanol + microfiber cloth is recommended for QD-OLED panels. Check the manufacturer's guidance.

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Of course I reply at the very end of the last thread, so here we go again...

>>108059597
>>108050842
>>108050536
How do I pull the wire out without detaching it from the pin/breaking it?

And what do you mean soldering is "botch"? Like its easy to botch? it's more complicated than it needs to be? It can't carry current for some reason? etc.


on an unrelated note, I'm getting real damn tired of selecting the picture with exactly 2 stars with 5 points. The other challenges are fine. I hate the stars for some reason.

Also I got an 8 pin female to 2x 8 pin male CPU power cable, and figure I can basically just use one of the male ends to plug into the GPU.

Another thing, the 6 pin cables I'm using dont have the bottom middle wire, so I'll actually plan on using 3 6-pin connectors (I would use 4 but one of them is already being used to power the mobo) and I'm assuming that as long as I connect 4 12V wires together even if it's only connected to 3 pins it probably won't be the end of the world, right?

Is the Deepcool FH-10 compatible somehow with the 3-speed fan controllers on cases? I can only hook up 3 DC fans in my case. I don't know if I can use a splitter or just route it to this fan hub to get more fans to control through the button somehow.

>>108059547
What a beautiful setup, what case is that?

AMD is getting massacred because they shown that they'll sell far less this year because of hardware inflation thanks to AI datacenters, but no one dares to attack the DRAM cartel behind it or the OpenAI scam.

>>108059571
AMD missed their timing, not enough customers want MI300 GPUs, the likes of OpenAI are waiting™ for the 400s.
Plus, NVIDIA plays hardball. If they catch you buying AMD, they’ll bump you down to the bottom of their waiting list.
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/former-amd-gpu-head-accuses-nvidia-of-being-a-gpu-cartel-in-response-to-reports-of-retaliatory-shipment-delays

>>108059679
It's this guy's >>108054830

>>108059687 (me)
the good news is that makes it much more likely that they'll make new AM4 X3D CPUs because it's a tangible demand that they are not addressing.

>>108059687
>no one dares to attack the DRAM cartel behind it
Because these guys make critical components for AMD & NVIDIA's most profitable products.
The higher DRAM costs will be passed on to some of the most profitable corporations in human history.

>or the OpenAI scam.
These guys are buying AMD & NVIDIA's most profitable products.

>>108059466
>Put on an AMDUnboxed video
>Guys trust me
>AMD is outselling Geforce guys
>Looks at the Steam Hardware survey
>RTX 5000 cards mog all AMD cards combined
What crack is he smoking? I feel like I'm watching someone tell me not to believe my lying eyes.
Baghdad Bob style guys Radeon is doing great! *BANG*

>>108059826
steam survey is a joke, it doesn't even show the 9070 xt but shows the 9070 who sells less than 10% of the xt model.

>>108059826
The 5090 out sold the 9070xt. And that's just for gaming not to metion the plethora of professional applications.

>>108059629
>How do I pull the wire out without detaching it from the pin/breaking it
You need a pin removal toolkit, it sleeves over the pin and allows you to pull it without breaking it.

Nvidia drivers are still dogshit

Is this AIO Pump noise unavoidable or is it common?

I got the same noise on my Corsair Nautilus 360 and it was annoying as fuck, switched to air but no w I miss having fans spinning less during heavy load

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bbgIMTo3BU

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When did GPU visual design peak?

>>108059916
sorry anon, you too fell for the reddit shills.
The pump noise is unavoidable but you can remove the meme vrm fan

>>108059940
Well good thing I didnt switch back to liquid then

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>>108059933
2004

>>108059933
looked like crap until Titan X
>>108059945
looked like crap until the 2000 series

>>108059571
Who in their right mind would buy AMD for AI shit anyway? Nvidia is far ahead of them in that game

The 7800X3D on AM4 will SAVE AMD.

>>108059933
8800 to 600

>>108059980
Release the 5950X3D already

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Shout out to Arctic for making their fans straight up impossible to thread with the screws they provided, holy fuck.

>>108059980
>ddr4 prices are up 500%

people are shit out of luck unless they already own ram, ssd, gpu
the cpus are basically an afterthought

https://youtu.be/Lv8tJoiApd8?t=524
Nvidia unironically and eternally wonned.

It turns out that games were running RT denoisers in their own engine's implementations before handing it off to DLSS, and that's what was causing all the extra noise and bubbling from using the latest presets L and M. Turning off these denoisers allows DLSS to do the job by itself and it is far superior to the original. Games are holding back the power of DLSS now by pure innocent mistake.

>High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Fix this again. FIX IT. Remove the one that doesn't belong!

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>>108060056
Fuck this, I'm on the verge of giving up. I cannot drive these screws any further without damaging the screws or the case by virtue of slipping, they can't bite straight in the first place. Wtf is this Arctic?

>>108059516
5070 is more powerful than 16GB 5060 TI
you did nothing wrong anon

>>108060083
Bought 64GB last year to play around with RVC AI training. No regrets.

>>108060099
sissies should stick to prebuilds

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>>108060132
forgot pic

9070XT Hellhound or Pulse?

>>108060132
I literally applied so much force that I stripped the screw and the screwdriver, this has literally never been an issue until I bought this Arctic fan.

>>108060197
pulse, but xfx is better

>>108060099
Take it out, secure it against a table and pre-drill it as straight down as possible. If its too tight far beyond having just enough for the screw threads to bite into then you just have to widen the hole, that is the only thing you can do.

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>>108060198
i have a meshify c so i want an gpu under 335mm in length and with only two 8 pin ideally. i would also be open to deshroud the gpu.

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>>108060225
I might just grab a power drill or use nuts and standoff screws like these from the Zalman. These used to be so much nicer to work with.

>>108060206
>>108060231
also
>>108060198
arctic screws are dogshit. idk what their problem is. the bequiet fan screws are much better. the screws they send are so fucking soft.

>>108060231
Cool P1S.

>>108060243
Screws? To me it seems like the plastic is WAY harder than on the bequiet or spc or cooler or whatever fans I have used so far.

>>108060289
the plastic is not the problem. there is something wrong with the screws. they are too soft or have the wrong pattern or smth. they just slip so fucking easy and you destroy them. normal fan screws went right in without slipping.

>>108060243
>idk what their problem is
>chink fans ship with chinesium screws
truly a mystery

>>108060289
anon i just tried it with one of my humming 5 pack
it went straight in without effort, dont know what to tell you

>>108060088
The game engine's sharpening passes are also fucking with these new DLSS models.
Even PlayStation console gamers were complaining about Horizon: Forbidden West's oversharpened visuals.
DLSS has no internal sharpening pass since 2.x

>>108059933
8800 for sure
it's the first time a gpu looked truly like a powerful piece of tech instead of a pcb with a weird plastic toy on top of it

>>108059933
Titan V
>>108059945
Vega Frontier

I've had an idea. Since all beefy GPUs these days have at LEAST 2 slot cooling solutions, let's stop being cowards and make them 2 slot cards. Like *literally* plug into 2 different PCIe slots at once. At the absolute minimum, you get more stability, and probably another 75 watts of power supply.

Now I know that PCIe doesn't work like that but maybe with some custom software/firmware on the card you might be able to increase bandwidth. Said software will probably be "there's no way in hell this is actually gonna work" but it actually does tier, and almost certainly will end up being one of those "really cool ideas in theory but it never really catches on and gets deprecated eventually" like SLI.

As an alternative to that outcome, rather than try to use it to increase bandwidth to your beefy GPU, why not put a second, much lower power GPU on the card and have that one use the second PCIe connector (could even make it not use a full 16 lanes for better mechanical compatibility) You could use that small GPU to handle physX or all the other various background things that your dedicated GPU does to free up the primary just a little bit more, or even just have it as a second compute device for whatever.

>inb4 thats gonna be so expensive because you're gonna have to have a second GPU die and all the vram to go with it and even weak GPUs and vram on the bleeding edge are expensive!
I have a solution for that too! Make the secondary GPU on an older fab/design process. Hell, you can literally just start making the same GPUs you made in 2012-2015 on the same fabs and then bolt them onto your much more modern card. It will run older and less demanding shit just fine still.

As an added bonus, you can use some of the single slot cooling solution space for your weak GPU as extra cooling for your main GPU. Just add a heat pipe or two that run under the bottom of the card and into a heatsink behind the weak GPU's existing one.

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>>108060314
>>108060300
OK, it WAS the scews being sogshit, WTF? I used the screws from my old SPC fans and they bored through EZ no problem.

Arctic screw on the left, SPC on the right. Left just fucking crumbles and strips like nothing like if it waa Chinesium more than the actual Chinesium.

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>>108059571
Can they finally release some AM4 with DD4 memory controllers like a 7800x3d or restart production for 5800x3d , it would be a killer product

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what's the /pcbg/ meta right now? are refurbished prebuilts worth the discount? or should I only build & drive to microcenter for a bundle?

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>screwdriver slip scratch ruining the perfect pure sex paintjob
FUUUUCK
I'm turning into Kurt Busch by the minute

Should I try to get my bank account fixed to where I can make online transactions again?

It might sound stupid but it's forced me to get very innovative with what I can buy as my debit card still seems to work in-person. Should I go buy a Walmart prebuilt PC in person? I heard they actually are decent value sometimes and u can just swap out the bad components.

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>>108060088
The most insane thing is the denoiser being straight up several times better than in-game lumen one, not only disabling it increases FPS but it means that the anon that said that nvidia was working on combining both DLSS with denoiser so RR would not tank fps was right, basically i went to test some UE5 games with special K and not only the shimmering and boiling is gone but i gained over 10-15 fps on average from the denoiser being turned off, now the only thing that annoys me is not only did Alex did not show that turning off the denoising increased performance but for some reason decided to test on a 3070

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Wait a minute. Are those extended warranties offered by credit cards legit? Like if my GPU broke a few months after the manufacturer's warranty expires, the credit card company will reimburse my dead GPU?

>>108060429
Why does your bank prevent online transactions? If it's because you were the victim of fraud then sure. If it's because you blew all your money on Genshin Impacts and your parents put a block on it then no.

>>108060458
money isnt even real but most ppl literally dont get that

>>108060464
Does that fix your relationship with your bank?

Fuckin' tired of tainting every new thing I enjoyed getting with a giant scratch by my screwdriver slipping. Maybe I need to buy a safer screwdriver, or I'm developing Parkinson's and this isn't just retard strength.

>>108060485
i mean i could get it fixed im just too lazy. i hate banks

>>108060496
Definitely don't get it fixed then.

>>108060423
Whichever makes more financial sense for you.
Don't bother building a new PC if you can't find any bundle deals for RAM.
Carry over your existing storage drives if you need to.

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Pulsar status?

First rule of online opinion, everyone is retarded, you can't trust no ones opinion

Always test things yourself

Online opinions are useless

Havent bought a GPU in a while, did AMD change their naming convention?
For example, I have an AMD 6600XT, but now they have a 9060. I thought Nvidia followed the naming i.e. RTX3060 and 4060

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>>108060554
Eye tracking across screen or fixed eye tracking or broken monitor
is the leddit schizo right or wrong
did he disprove Pulsar

>>108060554
theres objective motions clarity tests done with a blur busters test + tracking camera that indeed show pulsar has higher motion clarity

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got banned on reddit. so i am now back. hello everyone.

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>>108060587
The schizo might have a broken monitor, too retarded to turn it on, or something else
plus he refers to eye tracking motion clarity not entire screen
which, kinda seems retarded also

>>108060596
i frequently get banned from 4chan for 1 week durations. sometimes permanent, but the ip resets so i get to come back anyway.

my reddit accounts get banned within days because im a controversial entity.

i get banned from discord servers within the hour usually because i just say what i want and hyperliberals/millennials just cant tolerate that kind of wild card. its the truth. if you are a chaos entity you are not welcome anywhere.

i am muted on all of my runescape accounts, people frequently ignore me.

at the end of the day its obvious what i really am

i am the fabric of reality itself.

>>108060601
I can imagine a 240hz oled being really good at motion clarity + other qualities like perfect blacks makes it look more appealing than an ips

but pulsar on off test should definitely show a difference regardless of the game

>>108060616
This anon is beyond Mossad's ability to control.

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>>108060616
i just speak or write my mind and get banned or muted. perma mute in cs2 on all my smurf accounts.

>>108060616
have you tried not having a mental illnesss

>frog poster
>openly admitting to be a reddit poster
You kids are so pathetic.

>>108060643
cry about it. they have better convos in the few places that allow for it.

go back

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>>108060396
This is a super rough idea of what I mean.

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>>108060627
>I can imagine a 240hz oled being really good at motion clarity
it's not crazy, can still be clearer, 240hz is only 4ms persistence blur (tried it)

people A-B tested 500hz oled and pulsar and went with pulsar, now people are turning on the Pulsar
many dividing opinions

the pulsar question continues

i wish i woke up and all technology was free....maybe one day.

i wish i woke up and israel was a nuclear wasteland....maybe one day.

>>108060794
Funniest thing about this post is also him reviewing pulsar strobing without not even having the monitor

i wish i woke up and was a nuclear wasteland....maybe one day.

>>108060794
I really don't understand why anybody needs more than 60fps with ~1920x1080 pixel density. Like I enjoy having a slightly taller display so I can understand aspect ratio changes, but ultra high res displays just look the same for the most part. I can MAYBE understand playing stuff at 90fps, So really why go above 120 hz or MAYBE 180 hz?

>>108060836
esports games are meant to be played in 120+ fps, triple a games are meant to be played at 60

>>108060836
you put a monitor in front of you and its just what it is, you get used to it
then if you put a lower res monitor next to it then you notice it looks bad
same with hz, play cs2 for 100h at 500hz and go to 240hz and you'd be able to tell shit sucks, it feels wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO84Y6AweS4

INTEL WON

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>108060868
wtf i love fake frames now

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>>108059536
nonsense, I show all the girls I take home my figures, and they think they're cute.

>>108060848
>esports games are meant to be played in 120+ fps
but why? we really can't perceive anything faster than 60-90 I thought?

>>108060859
doesn't monitor refresh rate (hz) just set the upper limit on how many frames your monitor can actually display per second? Like if you can render 300 fps but you only have a 60 hz monitor, you can only actually meaningfully utilize 60fps of your 300 right? So then in order to tell the difference between 240 and 500 hz, you'd have to be able to render something on the same order of ~240+ to 500 fps right? Or is there some separate advantage for refresh rate alone?

no company will win for probably 20 years when they finally realize all of the products they have delivered the consoomer are e-waste dogshit.

i'd personally argue we're in one of the worst states for technology ever currently. slop handhelds like the deck, steam machine here to provide more e-waste. gaming laptops that melt themselves in a year. $3,000 gpus.

best thing you can do is keep what u got until that shit breaks cause idk why people keep feeding into all this trash.

>>108060893
60 to 120 is a huge jump and clearly perceptible, 120 to 240 I didn't feel any difference

>>108060888
>they think they're cute
girls with dicks don't count. those aren't girls.

>>108060893
>Or is there some separate advantage for refresh rate alone?
You can push high hz in esports titles and then 50xx gpu frame gen has 6x more now which adds smoothess that youd only see on a high hz monitor

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Please do not talk to me or my wife's son ever again.

>>108060910
I don't even know a single femboy. There is a twink at one of my sports club, but he's just normal gay (like all twinks kek)

>>108060836
I messed with a high refresh monitor at the store, a 180hz IPS, and I kept going back and forth between 60, 120, 144, 165, and 180, and it kept getting better. 180 looks really great, even compared to 120.

>>108060888
why are you using piss to cool the components?

>>108060929
gamer girl (boy) piss

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>>108060929
good thermals ofc

is there any performance difference between good thermal paste and a brand PTM sheet?

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>>108060581
>>108060554
I cant believe Pulsar has unironically schizos making reddit accounts to shit on them to cope with their purchase

>>108060982
negligible, but ptm doesn't need to be repasted ever
does anyone have an aliexpress store that sells genuine honeywell ptm 7950 btw?

>>108060601
Apparently he is an OLED schizo that has an unhealthy amount of posts shilling QLED as the 2nd coming of god

>>108060836
60fps on a desktop is worse than in game like dark souls
60fps looks and FEELs horrendous
all depends though

>>108060893
put a high refresh monitor next to a 60hz and slide the windows and you can see the 60hz being one light year behind in motion

>>108060988
>guy can't tell if pulsar is on or off says it's no difference
>guy gives his input and review whilst not owning or even trying the monitor
GOOD MORNING I HATE PEOPLE

>>108060999
qled? lcd?

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OLED monitor owners should know that the endgame panels are still under development.
The ones currently available are in the "good enough for me" tier, like LCDs.

>>108060995
> ptm doesn't need to be repasted ever
Neither does Thermal Grizzly's Duronaut thermal paste. Not in your or your hardware's lifetime i.e.

MicroRGB IPS is the future, NOT gonna buy OLED for a pc monitor until the burn in is 100% fixed, all my hardware lasts 10+ years, not buying the decaying self-killing OLED panel ever.

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Rate my countries GPU's market boys.
If it isn't on the table it might as well not exist, most AMD gpus are similarly priced so I didn't bother to include them since they are rares(somehow) and aren't cheaper like in the states. I do wish Intel's would be here.

Honestly I don't want to spend more than $650 MSRP but here most good gpus get almost +30% price increase. I really fucking hate it. The used market is worse with fags selling 8g at $650, I do not know why for used shit/prolly mined but I guess "I know what I got" is an universal mentality.

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>>108061114
clearly you should get an RTX 6000

>>108061061
and the waiting continues

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>>108061061
once true RGB drops it will still be a cope because the brightness has been nerfed and the cope will continue
and so on

>>108061103
>lcd last forever fallacy meme
we have been over this meme several times

>>108061035

what do you mean dark souls is capped to 60 fps even in the demaster

>>108060896
Absolutely true, everything has to be a constant stream of garbage you buy every year. Everything is focused on growth. It's unsustainable.

>>108061135
yea i used it as an example of being bearable
60fps is even worse on desktop and mouse because you interact
idk
also gets enhanced the larger screen size you go I believe, more hz is needed in larger

>>108061118
There is only 5000 ADA at $4100

>>108060896
>gaming laptops that melt themselves in a year
mine has been running fine for 2+ years easy

>best thing you can do is keep what u got until that shit breaks
thats what I did from my desktop that was old windows and barely had support for modern programs
i didnt evne have a high refresh screen or a ssd
also like 12x'd my VRAM going to mobile gpu from a dgpu too and other things
light years faster
that what happens when you wait 12 years to buy a new pc I guess

Jensen..... p-please rel- *COUGH COUGH* RELEASE THE 50 SUPERS!

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>>108061184
>rtx 5070ti super bin
>vram raised to 12gb

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I want to get a case like this to transfer my old build into since I have a lot of hard drives but only want to spend $100ish. Needs to fit ATX and have space for at least 6 3.5" drives.
What should I be looking for

>>108059933
Fans in Gpu must be the most autistic shit ever
I miss when computing wasn't an edgy, pretentious macguffin
PC died in 2005

>>108061227
zhenloong on aliexpress

Recommend me a front bay drive holder that I can turn on and off so I can "dual boot" by just turning my main SSD off and turning my second hard drive on with switches on the front before I turn the pc on
I think that would be fun and I like the idea of it but idk if they even make anything like that nowadays lmao

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>>108059916
Don't have the pump run at 100% PWM ~2,800 rpm! It's unnecessary.
You can safely throttle it to ~2,000-2,100 rpm. picrel
Also throttle the VRM fan or adjust the fan curve to the CPU usage. "CPU2" in picrel.
My ALF3 420 AIO is near inaudible when the 9950X3D is idle with picrel rpm of all fans and pump.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Xe3P-LPG-Nova-Lake-P

"NVL-P is a new Intel platform that comes with the following IPs:

- Xe3p_LPG graphics;
- Xe3p_LPM media;
- Xe3p_LPD display.

INTEL WON

AYYMDEAD STUCK ON POODNA 3.5

Need help /g/, no bullshit or I'm heading back to boomer forums

1. Are vertical risers still the best for long term longevity of GPUs? My case has vertical slots, I just need to buy a PCB right angle adapter and cable.

2. How do I do PBO with negative CO? 9800X3D + MSI 870E. I'm open to reading multiple guides. I want to firmly control and prevent any issues for my CPU but also aim to get lower terms.

My air cooler is getting me 40C at idle at 40% fan speed which is basically silent - did I do well for my first AMD build?

I can post pics of you want to be bribed. I just need to put on my sides of my case and do a quick memtest later this week. My work is slammed.

>>108061255
Not even sure that it ever ships. To date Nova Lake is nothing but vaporware.

Has anyone built a PC with laptop components before? How did that turn out?

>>108061279
those questions are easily answered on google

>>108060099
Ask a man to do it for you.

>>108060083
You can still get a fast 4TB SSD for just €360.

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>GeekSquad Refurbished Samsung 990 EVO Plus for $225
That's a decent deal, yeah? It's not a Pro, but surely it's not all that bad?

>>108061337
Forgot to mention
>4TB

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>looking at mATX cases
>assume they're smaller than my ATX case
>check measurements
>they're larger

>>108061303
I want first hand examples and
>trusting AI to overclock
Are you kidding?

>>108061114
I'm in France, a country that will gladly sacrifice itself on the altar of Globohomo but where every citizen will fuck his next in kin for a few more shekels. It's the same bullshit here with people trying to sell used 4070 for more than a brand new 5070 etc. It's ridiculous and I wish there was a laughing emoji on these websites so we could all leave them a message that they somehow miss by not concluding any sell... just as the other 20 sellers before them.

>>108061409
1 yes
2 in the bios

>>108060099
I am your savior
https://www.noctua.at/en/products/na-sav4
https://www.noctua.at/en/products/na-sav3

>>108061427
Alright - TRYX a good riser brand if anyone has experience? Going with that and mounting my 5070 Ti

Also yes I know the bios I just don't wanna PBO wrong and fry my mobo and chip. Guess I'm going back to boomer forums like [H] and Overclock since this place is full of useless schizos and browns

I love my 5090 and OLED.

>>108061448
tryx is a good brand in general

>>108061459
how much hertz?

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>>108061490
Great. Going to bite the bullet.

Guess I will try the general again later tonight so the Europeans can help me with my ineptitude at PBO


I guess I will post my PC that is currently in progress, the case front/top/sides aren't on
No bully
I have a temporary GPU $5 anti sag while I contemplated the riser
Also the brown things are silicone mounts, much better than screws, best $20 I spent, they make fans not hum or vibrate the case

>>108061547
watch a video on the pbo settings for your motherboard bios

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i did some further experimentation on my gpu overclock and it turns out the curve and ram overclock i blindly eyeballed three weeks ago is the absolute max i can get stable
what are the odds

>>108061547
>they make fans not hum or vibrate the case
noctuas dont have inbalance in the first place
you should turn the top center fan as inlet

how do i stop fomoing into buying a 5080 for $1400 on installments,

hello /g/. this is my current build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VJGJ7w

i'm interested in getting an arc b580 to use as my primary gpu so i can then use my r9 390 to run lossless scaling off of. few questions then:
1) would that give any performance uplift?
2) if so, would my current psu provide enough power for a b580 on top of all the other components?
3) if not, how high should the wattage of a psu be in this case?

any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks for reading!

>>108061664
stop watching jewtube hardware propaganda and you'll realize you don't need new hardware

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>>108061604
If I make center inlet that will be 5 intake fans
Possibly making another intake in shroud area after I remove 1 HDD cage
I'm keeping the other cage for 1x HDD (10tb)

Currently the exhaust is back and top middle and left

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>>108060896
>best thing you can do is keep what u got until that shit breaks cause idk why people keep feeding into all this trash.
be glad this is even an option. You were spending like $1500 in 90's money to get a pc that became e-waste 2 years later. For reference $1500 in 90's money is a fucking LOT more than you'd spend now even on a fully decked out 5090 pc that will stay usable in computing performance for nearly a decade.

Things are actually so good right now, and people are too spoiled by pc building during ZIRP (circa 2009-2020) to realize it.

People are just too damn young. Things will get a lot "worse" than they are right now, and still be way better than it used to be during the ghz race.

>>108061682
>that will be 5 intake fans
who cares, why do people think this needs to be 1:1? Even if the intake fans overpressurize the case by some miracle (it cant happen, too many holes), all that would do is increase the discharge fans volumetric flow per revolution.
But with it direcly above your cpu fan it sucks up cold air not yet drawn through a fin stack

pulsar basically means you are going to get 4x clarity for no performance cost, so isn't it literally the best possible upgrade you could make?

>>108061704
Wise logic. I'll have to buy another inlet spacer but thanks anon, I'll just do it.

I'll report back if it drops CPU idle temps further, I appreciate your input.

>>108061717
>does nothing for video playback
>does nothing for color
>does nothing for contrast
best upgrade ever

you dont get it. you NEED a monitor thats more expensive than $150

t. sincerely got a $120 180hz 1440p monitor at best buy because it has a scratch u cant even notice unless u actually search for it. monitor retails for like $250. ez clap

>bought 2TB nvme several months ago
>1TB nvme is now more expensive than it
this shit is so fucked

>>108061732
aren't they coming out with miniLED pulsars in a year

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Fucking finally... after a long day of back breaking labor I can put behind 7+ years of hell and actually be proud of a system I have put together. I fucking kneel to the mechanical design of these be quiet! cases for handling my storage autism and granting me actual cable management.

God, I'm so fucking happy right now I don't even care if it will be a hotbox. An actual cleanly cable managed computer with this many SATA devices, and it is the one that has no window, lmao.

Also, very charitable of them to have a built in anti-GPU sag bonus to the PCIE bracket design. The tooling on this case is fucking excellent, the thumbscrew solutions are great, the side panel goes on with no issues, straps work great and I don't have to permanently zip tie every cable, and the space actually bears in mind full ATX support, this is the roomiest mid tower I've ever owned. It actually made me enjoy building again, makes the system actually look fresh, just by upgrading the cooler and the case. It's almost perfect for me.

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>install rocm and pytorch on WSL
>run a model on my 9070 XT
>it actually works despite all the .to("cuda") calls in the script

never used liquid cooling before, how worth it is it?
does it require maintenance or changing/cleaning the liquid ever? and how much better is it to fan cooling

>>108061666
forgot to mention that i don't remember the exact ssd and hdd in this build. one's a 500 gb ssd and the other is a 2tb hdd, if i'm not mistaken. cpu cooler is just intel's stock cooler the i7 4790k came with, which is set to its turbo clock speed.

>>108061804
whats the cooler?

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>>108061826
>how worth it is it?
I assume you mean custom loop. It's worth it only if you need one of two things, super quiet sound, or better OC.
>does it require maintenance or changing/cleaning the liquid ever?
If you build it right not really, but most people flush it once a year or two.
>and how much better is it to fan cooling
Lots, mostly in noise, but if you're not OC'ing you really don't need it.
I can cool my AMD housefire CPU and 5090 with fans you cannot hear.

https://www.reuters.com/business/intel-ceo-says-company-will-make-gpus-has-hired-lead-executive-2026-02-03/

INTEL SAVING YOU FROM AYYMDEAD DEFECTIVE BY DESIGN CPUS & GPUS

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>>108059933

>>108061869
looks like a TR Phantom Spirit 120

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I should toast this completed build by finally using my stockpile of stickers that I wanted to use for my system in 2015-2019 but never applied. I'm thinking using the G.Skill, Seasonic Focus, the NVIDIA GTX wide since they are technically accurate, and some of the silver stickers to match the case front. Or the old Sempron sticker for the memes. Been saving that one for a special occasion.

>amazon warehouse resale motherboard arrived
>was told it was missing a SATA cable and there were marks to the top and side of the item
>box was taped shut but still in shape, no dents just looks scraped up
>board looks completely fine and new
>missing literally all accessories even the ASUS wifi dongle

I'm not sure what to think.

>>108059516
The gap between the 5060ti and 5070 is significant. The 4gb of extra vram is warping people's perceptions.

>>108061732
Nothing needs to be done for any of that though.

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20260204PD210/market-dram-nand-cxmt-ddr4.html

>China's memory makers abandon low-price strategy: DRAM, NAND near Korean levels

GET FUCKED FAGGOTS

>>108061507
165hz.

>>108061910
>Intel's GPU effort targets data centers, competing with Nvidia
lmao
consoomers are cattle, not customers

>>108061991
This is a good thing since it allows them to expand faster, not just feeding the middle men.

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>>108061991
>trusting changs ever

im at the point that i just play runescape. it can run on anything so why bother playing anything else

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Ladies, the real pulsar review dropped
Finna watch

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>>108059629
>Is there a pre-made adapter for going from PCIe to 8pin CPU cables
>PCIe to 8pin CPU cables
Literally just googled that part

Guys, I'm changing my case to a one without ODD space, but I want to keep using mine as an external one. Can any "USB to SATA" cable works?
Cant post links cos 4kek think is spam. The name of the cable is "Unitek USB 3.0 to IDE and SATA Converter External Hard Drive Adapter Kit for Universal 2.5/3.5 HDD/SSD Hard Drive Disk, One Touch Backup Function, Included 12V/2A Power Adapter" as an example

>>108062029
Some of us want to play battlefield 6 at 4k resolution with 60 fps though

>>108062064
good thing i dont i guess

desu when i go to stores and see fancy pcs i just think its very soulless. i never needed more.

>balding chasers
shitty low quality content

>>108062086
What do you mean by "soulless"?

>>108062034
its over
pulsissies olst

>>108062112
idk bro i just think the world economic system is soulless

>>108062086
You still own a house, buy food, spend money on clothes, holidays, cars and all other things that are equally not necessary for life, and yet i'm not here trying to stop you spending money on them

why do you have to make it a point to say what I like is soulless when I let you do whatever you want?

>>108062055
Please help

>>108062122
Yeah, that's probably why you're jealous of smarter people than you.

>>108062130
i dont own a house.

i do buy food.

i dont spend money on clothes anymore besides shoes sometimes

i dont go on "holidays"

i dont have a car

>>108062156
i believe i am god and that other "people" are me

>>108060868
So how come desktop GPUs are pulling 600W of power to do the same multi frame gen shit this thing is doing but it's only pulling 30W? Are we being bamboozled, fellow desktopfags?

>>108062182
Yeah, just so you know on your deathbed i won't give a fuck you're dying.

>>108062163
You should have a car, it's extremely useful

>>108062034
>>108062121
So it seems the jew man prefers OLED and still says it superior and basic bitch lcd can't compete even

Interesting points
>Strobing does not give eyestrain like old strobing methobs but still fucked up eyes after gaymen sessions but recovered
>Msi model strobing turning off every start with the monitor (old aids annoyance with any strobed monitor that is not like zowie where it randomly turns off and you have to enable the shit in garbage menuss- would drive me insane and would just not use)
>OLED still better even same hz fps
>Costs more than OLEd or same
>OLED with vsync not gsync is faster than lcd with gsync
So yeah idk it seems over
I should have boughted a tv
Maybe a monitor

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>>108062196
There is one current gen GPU that pulls 600W and it doesn't need framegen.

>>108062182
People are allowed to spend money on things that make them happy.

Just because you don't think it's right doesn't mean you can stop them.

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>doesn't need frame gen

I want to water cool my newish build. I now have the money to piss away on what I am aware will lead to minimal but likely no perceivable performance increase, and I want to do so purely for the hobby and aesthetics of the new rig.

What brands for watercooling shit are okay these days? Last I heard was to stay away from EK and Corsair for whatever reasons, but other than that I don't know where to look.

>>108062209
>Strobing does not give eyestrain like old strobing methobs but still fucked up eyes after gaymen sessions but recovered
Who would have guessed, even 3 phase fluorescent lights that strobe a workshop at 300hz (360 for burger bros) will fuck your eyesight temporarily, this has been experienced for decades
>Costs more than OLEd or same
goysync tax is nothing new

>>108062249
other people dont exist

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>>108062262
home depot

>>108062259
You only need 24fps for the cinematic feel.

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>>108062055
is the question retarded or you guys just dont know?

>>108062262
Read the OP dumbass

>>108062240
>and it doesn't need framegen.
why does it have it then smartass? frame gen is specifically meant for when you already have a high enough framerate above 60fps to get closer to high refresh rate displays native refresh rate, it really wasn't meant for poorfags to triple their fps from 20 to 60 even though that's what it's mainly being used for

>>108062055
Yes but two things
1. The controller adapter is shit will lead to shit transfer so you get what you pay for
2. USB 3.1 is faster so make sure to use USB-C natively on your mobo or just get shitty yields

>>108062265
The pg27aqn cost A LOT more in eu due to the module
The new pulsars have cheap mediatek slop
There isn't much module cost

Its over tho

>>108062268
What if those people said the same thing about you?

>>108062259
Those are clown benchmark settings. No gay rays or traces for me - off. Simple ultra settings and 2k. Raw dog power, no fake frames or any bullshit. Call me conservative if you want

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finally bought my new pc
how does this look

>>108062372
9070 xt is enough for that job.

>>108062379
what does 195% gaming mean

>>108062395
>he doesn't game at at least 200%

>>108062379
your desktop numbers are looking pretty weak
gotta pump up those numbers man

>>108062395
you can almost play 2 games at once

>>108062262
>EK
Overpriced, only popular because of name and aesthetics
>Corsair
Same thing but less insane
>alphacool
Has everything but not the best at everything, most likely to have a waterblock for your GPU.
>bitspower
Also sells everything but tends to be higher priced, praised for having the most solid rotary fittings
>hwlabs
Some of the better radiatiors
>heatkiller
Best blocks for CPU and GPU

I genuinely believe the prices will take a dive in 2 or 3 months, the AI bubble is making everyone way too worried in the market, drumpf administration is literally committing suicide in every possible way it can, crypto is already dying despite the US president doing everything he can to keep it alive, there's a bear market incoming and it'll kill AI the bubble

buying an m4 mac mini to run osrs bots on.

ill make back the money in a month. ez clap.

>>108061279
>no bullshit or I'm heading back to boomer forums
faggot

>1. Are vertical risers still the best for long term longevity of GPUs? My case has vertical slots, I just need to buy a PCB right angle adapter and cable.
Make sure to buy a good quality riser, like Linkup.

>2. How do I do PBO with negative CO? 9800X3D + MSI 870E. I'm open to reading multiple guides. I want to firmly control and prevent any issues for my CPU but also aim to get lower terms.
lots of guides, this ain't tech support.

>My air cooler is getting me 40C at idle at 40% fan speed which is basically silent - did I do well for my first AMD build?
Yep thats purdy good

>I can post pics of you want to be bribed.
post unfinished pics you troon

>>108062259
> Path tracing enabled
The GeForces are RTX not PTX cards.

>>108062308
>shit transfer
But is just for running CDs
>USB 3.1 is faster so make sure to use USB-C natively
got it

>>108061923
That looks rather gay.

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>>108062514
They'll be PTX cars when DLSS 5.0 RR gets released and you can run those games at 480p

5090 will be worthless in 2027 when the pathtracing mania begins

>>108061682
> fans largely blocked by the frame they are mounted on
This hurts so much in the eyes of a German engineer. Who designs this crap?

>>108062491
I was thinking about doing that but as a media server/ streaming device

>>108062543
I hope so. Can't wait to get my hands on a PTX 6090 for just €3,990 MSRP.

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>>108062549
If anything the 5090 is only future proof gpu if we ever get pathtracing mania unless DLSS and neural textures save us

>>108062554
>frame a centimeter away from blade tip
>as a german engineer
bet a nu grad

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Why all the giant PCs?

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>>108062594

>>108062594
>70c idle

>>108062587
whats the site

>>108062603
a large amount of dead air inside the case doesn't result in your component running cooler. hot air just has to get away from your components. that's all that is needed.

>>108062594
>>108062602
I dont want my PC to melt and by noisy

I just bought a 9600X. Is it worth returning it for a a 9850X3D, or is the gain trivial?

>>108062603
>>108062618
>smaller case somehow means higher temps
Leave it to /g/ to be the most technologically inept board.

>>108062616
you can't do that with those tiny miniitx cases because you can't even mount enough fans in it
>>108062626
shut up

>>108062630
doesn't really matter if your gpu blast it's hot air directly out of the case like in the picture that anon shared with us.

>>108062630
>shut up
How about we step outside and you say that to my face, punk?

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>>108062499
I'm a boomer my man
I'm going with this TRYX PCIe 5 riser for my Fractal case
https://a.co/d/09Z1JPTt
Linkup reviews have a lot of "starts to disconnect after 2 months" issues, probably not right AWG wire or qa?

I guess I'll YouTube the PBO since no one has any good guides to post I just wanna negative/-CO for cooler temps
This is my first AMD build I was an Intel fag my entire life

Also already posted some pics here's another
Wish my RAM didn't have RGB but it was the last 6000cl30 at 600 USD in early December before everything shot 800+

>>108062639
those fans blow air in, towards the gpu heatsink

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>>108062639
Yeah, basically
>bottom fan hoovers up fresh air into the case
>GPU fan blows out one side of the case
>CPU and PSU fans blow out the other side

I haven't had any heating issue so far playing 4K shit.

>>108062554
>This hurts so much in the eyes of a German engineer. Who designs this crap?
Fractal - German engineering
Is this a on purpose self own?

I can't find any huge cases nowadays that don't have gay side glass windows AND aren't thin pieces of shit

I wish I bought a better Lian Li case in early 2010s when they were still making thick aluminum cases with mesh

>>108062652
that gpu is going to blow it's hot air down and up out of the case >>108062602
intake is from the side >>108062659

>>108062626
>>smaller case somehow means higher temps
What it ultimately comes down to is how the case is arranged. But some smaller cases are absolutely miserable heat traps.

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>>108062671
>smaller cases are absolutely miserable heat traps.
>enter

lianli makes a matx case that fits 3 fans on top, 3 bottom 1 rear and 2 on the side, that's a small case I would approve

>>108062679
it's not small. volume is the same as a midi tower. it's not fucking small. meshify c and p300 are small and are atx.

>>108062684
*smaller
>>108062679
like what do all those fans do exactly? they remove the hot air from the case. so you might as well shorten the path and remove them. let the gpu do it directly.

>>108061704
You want to avoid an overwhelmingly positive pressure because it impact your airflow and the air inside of the case have enough time to warm up before being cleared out. You're supposed to aim for a slightly positive airflow so the air comes and goes chasing heat instead of building some.

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>>108062684
>not small

>>108062696
if it's not under 20l it's not small.

>>108062665
> Fractal - German engineering
Swedish engineering. We don't do that in Germany!

>>108062677
I said some, Anon. I've seen cases so bad for thermals that the RAM cooked itself. Good job on that one, Alienware.

>>108062690
>fans do exactly
they guide the cool air to the components and the hot air from the components outwards

>>108062696
>the panels are thin pot steel and the front panel only has ventilation on the fake wood version

>>108062711
yeah but the gpu can just suck in the air by itself and blast it out. no fans needed. less fans. less noise. less turbulence.

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>>108062711
or just do picrel

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>out on 2 week work trip
>decide to splurge a bit since I'm ahead
>upgraded from some curved dell 1440p TN monitors (2) to some 1440p OLED MSI monitors (2)
>research online says the difference is "mind blowing"
>get home from trip today and monitors are waiting for me
>get monitors set up with propet color and ICC profiles (TFT)
>it's time to game
>hardly notice a difference except colors look a bit better

Well there's $1300 gone, I guess I could return them but it's not even worth the effort.

>>108061804
How many drives?
I'm THIS close to build a NAS in an O11D Evo with 4 hdds.

debit card got frozen when i tried to buy a mac mini. guess money isn't real after all.

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>>108062734

>>108062724
>>108062711
The goal of case fans is to create a pressure difference between the outside and inside of the case, forcing ambient air into it. The internal fans then blow that air onto the coolers for the CPU and GPU. If you don't have any case fans the inside of the case will start heating up, making it harder to cool your stuff.

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>>108062754
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>>108062741
>he fell for the consoomerist memes
the big difference will be in watching content, if you're a hermit living in a pod without a television that you can just have be an oled instead. When you're actually playing a game or working or shitposting you aren't noticing or caring about the colors so it's a total waste of money.

>>108062762
So the entire "case" is basically just sitting around in open ambient air? Yeah why even have fans is a good question.

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>>108062778

>>108062741
everything is a psyop to make you spend more money that you need, the economy runs on propaganda and marketing, the only upgrade you ever should make when it comes to pc monitors is taking the ultrawide pill so you can see more of the screen when you play dota 2, warcraft 3 and other competitive games and you use that to win more games and laugh at the kids that are losing

>>108062783
Yeah see that makes actual sense and you absolutely need case fans for that. Ideally the botton fans blow into the case and the top fans blow out of the case. This helps hot air escape out the top. Without fans that case would turn toasty real quick.

>>108062741
You literally fell for a meme. desktop software isn't designed for HDR. It's made explicitly for movies and shows that support it. It's not for video games or applications.

Is the 5600T a dual CCD scam or is it single CCD?

Are there any cases with good preinstalled 140+mm fans? (and as a bonus, can fit a 360mm radiator up top?)

I've literally bought and returned two cases so far because the preinstalled fans were dogshit.

Currently looking at the Fractal cases that include their Momentum fans which are supposed to be very good, and the HAVN BF 360 Flow although I have read posts complaining that the big 180mm fans make a bad humming noise, it's also fucking $230 in my country.

Also considering the Lancool 217 but I've also read complaints about the 170mm fans making bad noises.

I just want a nice and quiet case that I won't have to spend an additional $100 for fans that aren't ewaste.

>>108062907
single

>>108061227
>6-core
>dual CCD
what

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>>108061227
what the hell, this case is fucking awesome. i'd use this for my main rig and just scrap my NAS at that point.

Please tell me it's ATX...

>>108062707
Fug
At least I have Noctua (Austrian) fans

>>108062750
>How many drives?
Not as many as I would like, long GPU made connecting the SATA power cables a very difficult puzzle as usual since I couldn't just pine them up on one cable like on classic chassis. Thankfully there is room so it isn't Newey-tier packaging. Unfortunately I stuck a 2.5" HDD instead of an SSD in the uppermost cage, luckily 2.5" SSDs can be forgiving so you can just stash them anywhere unscrewed though it isnt elegant which still annoys me. 5 drives for now ignoring NVME, 2 ODDs.

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>27" 1440p 120hz (supports up to 180hz but I probably don't need it)
>27" or 32" 4K 60hz?
Which one?
Coming from 15.6" 1080p 60hz, and I'm too poor for 4K 120hz.

The first PCIE slot being taken up by the first M.2 slot by many mobos nowadays actually pisses me off so fucking much because it breaks compatibility with so many cases by pushing PCIE E1 down one slot.

>>108062995
That is an HP but there are also Dell ones, I don't really know much about them, they are desktop servers. I heard the Dell is a lot more proprietary than the HP but haven't looked more into it than just trying to find one locally.

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We're never going to be able to buy PCs again huh?

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>>108063115
Google is investing 1 market cap of Disney (~$185B) into AI infrastructure.

Say goodbye to RAM in 2028.

>>108063124
they'll try to make the entire internet pay to use to profit on that

>>108062969
I hear rumors some six core Zen 3 parts were dual CCD

Ryzen 5 5600GT or Ryzen 7 5700G?

>>108062644
>boomer
Ja me too. Retired now. Tech was very, very good to me.

Does that case have a meme glass panel? Lots of tiny dicks sticking out...

>>108063115
>>108063124
When this shit collapses they're going to argue that tax payers have to bail them out. Kill them.

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>>108062707
>engineering. We don't do that in Germany
kek

>>108062754
f you don't have any case fans the inside of the case will start heating up, making it harder to cool your stuff.
Not if you go full mesh, like the Asus AP201

>>108062778
You need airflow across the mobo, RAM, and VRM.

>>108062594
>Want to change a part for cleaning
>Have to disassemble the entire thing
I already don't tolerate coolers and GPUs that go over the RAM sticks and CMOS battery.

>>108062594
Versatility, upgradability, easier build, easier access for maintenance, better cooling.

>>108062620
Yes. Night and Day. Slow 6-core vs fast 8-core.

>>108062741
> Well there's $1300 gone,
You should have bought a 32" 4k for that many $hekels.

>>108063155
No glass side that's why I bought it
Define 7 XL
I am pissed though that one top screw at the top of the case used to mount radiators when I removed it is slightly stripped.
I'm going to guilt trip their support to send me a new case or just the main chassis or I'll put a 1 star review on Newegg

Also, the "dicks" are all those Noctua silicone mounts, the PC is whisper quiet, zero humming due to the silicone preventing sympathetic vibration into the chassis

I technically can "cut" them but that means I'll have to toss them once I take them out
I'm waiting to cut until everything is polished
Then again no one is going to see the inside, that's the point....

>>108062741
The MSI doesn't have a glossy coating?