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spam thread lmao
you played yourself

should i be concerned about the power spikes regarding 9070ti and buy a bigger psu than 750w?

>>108160028
Modern atx 3.1 psus can handle momentary spikes but probably should get 850 anyway

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Honestly, I still kind of don't want to return it to be honest, it's so quiet at idle or under CPU load in the winter. I'm just hoping they don't EOL it before I might rebuy it since it is such a comfy case, even if I have doubts it can handle a 5070 and 3 HDD / 2 ODD bays loaded at once. It's so quiet at idle and light load that whispering feels way louder.

But I got so much junk in this room I need to give away or sell off that I still feel the need to work out my priorities.

Welp, i was planning on getting 4x6Tb drives, now they haven't risen in price that much but they are simply unavailable. Not a single store has any right now. But they do have larger more expensive drives, I'm wondering if I should dial my plans back a bit and get 2x12 or 16tb drives.

>>108160028
750 is good if you buying psu without upgrading in mind just make sure gpu has 2x8pin not 3 like some models I have a 9070xt pulse and whole sistem draws 520w under heavy load

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D
Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 9950X3D

*Multiple manufacturers report issues on AM5 platforms. Do your research.
*Raptor Lake microcode updating is mandatory

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (AM5 mount icky)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*<16 gb constrained even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
*Pulsar monitors dropping, consider waiting for more reviews.

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Previous: not this one

(you) faggots can't even make a decent thread
Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.
>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
NEW 5K27 MONITOR REVIEW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tg1aVeKakE
The Steam console will cost more than projected because of RAM prices
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Turing & Ampere significant performance hit, issues on ada & low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar is being reviewed
ARC B390 iGPU has some anons excited
Prices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ

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So what do anons think about Pulsar now that the monitors are dropping? Are you going to spend shekels on it?

>>108160647
its ips and I need oled contrast

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Is a 45-50c delta over ambient (that's like 65-70C in a 19C room) with my Phantom-Spirit cooled 5700X under full load with system fans at 500-700 RPM a good result for my old Zalman case or should I replace it? I don;t know if the results in this picture are biased because they tested it with full fan speed, which I basically never run (I should probably get PWM fans).

My bottom intake is partially obstructed by some HDD cages and the GPU extends a little over them, CPU gets most of its intake from a top fan in front of the cooler because I have a DVD drive and a media hub in the optical bay. So I'm probably only getting like 1.5-2 fans at best for clean intake.

I'm more worried the GPU (RTX 4070, 310mm) doesn't get enough air and is cooking both its self and CPU with each passing summer.

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>>108160747
I found a picture of this noise-normalized graph, this might be a better image to attach for my question,.

>>108160747
>>108160777
you need a thermal camera /noob/

what are the specs of the test system that GN is using here
I can't find anything in the article

>>108160747
70C on the CPU is pretty cool
I'd prioritize getting a case with bottom air intake for the GPU if I were you

>>108160889
>a case with bottom air intake for the GPU if I were you
It's funny, because on some of these older cases the dust filter for the PSU have it lengthened to support higher-wattage PSU's, yet the cases themselves can't handle that kind of power. Makes me wonder why companies like be quiet never utilized full on bottom intakes before implementing PSU shrouds, they could have had air blowing directly onto the GPU in the same way the PSU sucks up air while keeping it less noisy.

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>Finally hook up my new pc
>Notice that my memory use is insanely high for some reason
>My pc is only detecting one stick of ram instead of 2
I hate this godforsaken thing.

>>108160647
I'm very likely retarded but I cannot see the difference yet on my ASUS one. Monitor itself is fine

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>>108160849
>tfw the case reviews GamersNexus does aren't actually all that useful because we haven't information on what his test bench actually is since the info page hasn't been updated for a year
Noice

>>108160918
>I cannot see the difference yet on my ASUS one. Monitor itself is fine
Well sheeeit. Not a glowie review. Thanks for the reply.

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Where the fuck did the 7800 XT disappear? I literally can't seem to find ANY in shops, however 7600, 7700XT, 7900 XT and XTX are still present.

>>108160977
>rdna3
are you the so called "scam enjoyer"?

>>108160647
its another nvidia W but since im no sweaty fps gaymer, ill stick to oleds

>>108160920
Gamers Nexus case reviews are fucking useless. Lots of talking and impressive tech but cannot answer which case is better than which and with which type of cooling. TechPowerUp has a much better repo of case reviews that directly answer the question of how well each case compares in a standardized test setup and they even break it down by different measurement points.

>>108160982
how is rdna3 scam?

>>108160991
I like Linux over Windows more than I like nvidia over AMD which sucks.

>>108160977
Location?

>>108160631
>Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY

>>108161004
You are responding to a local schizo retard.

>>108161004
it got sidelined in features by amd since rdna4 launched so its only really good at playing pre-2022 games that are raster-only or are light enough and don't require upscaling to have good frame rates
its simply not a gpu you buy to use in newer games at high graphical quality

>>108160977
>>108161004
get a 9070 >>108161024

>>108161004
Like it or not but temporal upscaling is a must nowadays. RDNA3 is stuck with FSR2/3 which are unusable dogshit. FSR4 is RDNA4 exclusive.

>>108161002
People hailed GamersNexus as the new AanandTech but honestly, I miss them

>>108161015
No, he's right. RDNA3 is a scam and if you're buying new you either buy RDNA4 or nvidia.

>>108161014
>Location?
Hungary

>>108161004

only reason to buy rdna3 is if you want to build a beefy steam machine since that is what the gabecube uses.

>>108161029
well, fuck that upscaled, blurry shit they shove down our throats. Good thing I don't play any modern games, only MW2 that already runs alright without upscaling.

>>108161034
We have one trillion reviewers that focus on raw numbers. I'd rather GN do investigative journalism than be another reviewer giving us an identical dataset to dozens others.

>>108161053
dlss4, fsr4 and dlss3 are very usable
dlss4.5 is above native in quality

you're only stuck with the blurry garbage upscalers if you buy rdna3 or older gpus

>>108161048
What difference does it make? RDNA4 has robust support in mesa and with a custom steam machine most issues you'll be running into will be unrelated to the GPU. The bigger problem will be getting some poorly supported device stuck on your motherboard.

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>>108161029
>Like it or not but temporal upscaling is a must nowadays

>>108161064
>dlss4, fsr4 and dlss3 are very usable
>dlss4.5 is above native in quality

>all the rage these days

>>108161073
It's all rumors still but the word is that rdna4 will be very short-lived and replaced by rdna3.5 or rdna5 for several years so those are the uarchs that will be getting all the attention

>>108161073
gamescope or what steam uses is still optimized for steam hardware. they do accept fixes but stuff like polaris and vega gpus both had issues for a long time with it. gamescope also only gets updated when valve does it. so it may just work on arch but not on steamos.

do people really spend $100 on a case and then buy $100 of german case fans
why not just buy a $200 case?

>>108161053
You're clearly an outlier then and the advice is not aimed at you. Different people have different use cases, fucking crazy isn't it?

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>>108161086
>the word is that rdna4 will be very short-lived and replaced by
And so the sordid story of AMD continues.

>>108161002
>TechPowerUp has a much better repo of case reviews that directly answer the question of how well each case compares in a standardized test setup
until the moment they test a case with NO FAAAAAAAAAANS

>>108161112
>>108161086
ADA was also a remarkably shortlived generation before EOL status
AMD is just following NV as usual

>>108161086
>speculation
You're buying a graphics card not a house. If you get a decent deal on RDNA3 you can buy that and upgrade later. If RDNA4 gets deprecated, which I find doubtful, you can do the same.

the 5700 and 5700xt still just work

>>108161119
Blackwell isn't drastically different from Lovelace what's the point of keeping both? Don't they use the same 4N library anyway?

>>108161119
>ADA was also a remarkably shortlived generation before EOL status
yep the next gen was better in many ways.

>AMD is just following NV as usual
Short product lifecycles continued for them until perhaps even this day.

>>108161124
I don't ever want to be forced to update because some jeet bean counter decided that your GPU is EOL. At least with Nvidia, all their uarchs receive updates for 10+ years while on amd, how long an uarch receives optimizations depends on whether it's being used in current gen consoles or are specially favoured by some 3rd party developer by valve

>>108161119
Ada supports dlss4.5 and all the latest features
Rdna3 doesn't support fsr4, FG, ray reconstruction etc.
I hope you didn't buy rdna4 or you'll be a scam enjoyer real soon

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>>108161261
>ray reconstruction

>just discovered the silent loop 3 is serviceable
Oh fuck me, I should not have jumped the gun on a dual-tower air cooler if that's the case
Reliability was literally my only concern besides maybe pump noise at idle

>Gamers Nexus
>Hasn't released a video about gaming in months
>Just hours of this guy screeching about AI and Corporations.

>>108161363
its even more profitable to bitch about AI in tech griftism. its completely over for gaymers

>>108161456
>major new hardware release the last 6 month: binned 9800X3D with 200mhz OC
Not exactly his fault.

>>108161500
400mhz*
don't forget the two highly innovative rtx5090 models with TWO 12vhpwr connectors. literally bespoke technology

>>108161500
There's plenty of other things you can do.
Try full loop water-cooling, 3D printing cases, aesthetic computer designs, investigate the AM5 failures a little more, do a retro build, test Linux and showcase that some more, etc.

There's no shortage of shit you can do with computers and tech that would be more interesting than months of whining.

Even around the RAM stuff, actually comparing DDR4 to DDR5 set ups. Actually trying to build a PC using second hand RAM or shit salvaged from office PCs.
Literally anything would be more interesting than 20 minutes of a guy complaining.

>>108161537
And then high end GPUs, RAM and SSD literally unreleased themselves.

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>>108161456
>>108161500
>>108161547
Jay has no problem pumping out content. But I think people watch just to see him fuck shit up.

>>108161573
he's the cocomelon of tech. he reduces your iq the more of his videos you watch

>>108161456
Someone has to fight the good fight, but it is a shame we don't see more reviews and revisits.

>>108161604
He still does case reviews which are sort of boring. You can just look at a case and know if it will cool well enough. Modern best to worst is like 5 degrees. Not a deal breaker.

>>108161537
not if you count the +200 most 9800x3ds can already do
amd artificially locks the oc for them

>>108161624
>Modern best to worst is like 5 degrees.
Well, it took them long enough to finally figure out how to get out of the mid to late 2010's glass front panel hotbox era. Too bad I got one of those cases from the closed front panel era.

>>108161640
That's very 5080 of AMD. The are learning.

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>>108161640
most 9800x3d have bad silicon
this guy binned 115 pieces and maybe the best 10% at most are good enough to have a chance to do locked +200mhz without issues

>>108161655
I used an InWin805 for like 9 years and just figured idling at 60C was normal for a 280mm rad

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What is is about the P14 Pro that is so different from other fans? It almost looks like a centrifugal blower fan, with the large bearing, outer ring, and aggressively curved blades.

I heard it has good static pressure performance at whatever RPMs, whatever that means in reality anyway. It seems like this design would work well in an airflow restricted case, like be quiet! stuff more so than their actual fans. Seems just a hair thicker than standard fans too.

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>>108161674
>280mm rad
>idling at 60c
holy fuck
what was going on here
>inwin
haven't heard that name in ages
>it's THAT case
oh... I remember this thing, costs more than a proper 360mm AIO and 2x more than high budget mid-towers, yet no ties, rubber, or air

>>108161678
artctic fans are dogshit, they have really annoying sound profile.

>>108161700
>what was going on here
He doesn't pre-warm his CPU so it's ready to go.

>>108161700
The only place to mount the AIO was the front. Which allowed you to pull air from the panel gap between the front plate and the side plates.

It was awful and a very bad financial decision motivated purely by lights and glass.

>>108161700
It's like the Pentium4/bulldozer era of cases.

>>108160647
Imma wait until the next batch of new monitors with pulsar comes in
Waiting for a 27inch 4K version

>>108161537
>rtx5090 models with TWO 12vhpwr connectors
The btf ones?

>>108161778
Monitors with pulsar are ONLY 1440p

>>108161092
75$ Chinese case, 75$ of German fans.

>>108161829
DOA for me

can't find the galahad 2 lite in white anywhere. am i being punished for being a gayboy who did a white pc build
do i just get the arctic liquid freezer 3 instead even though it won't match my lian li fans?

>>108161900
the technology itself also sucks.

>>108161914
>5070
maybe avoid just the msi ventus and shadow
everything else are okay

Should I wait for next gen intel or settle for current AMD, which is decent. There are some good sales going on. I have a 12900ks system right now.

>>108161914
None are bad really, Nvidia has pretty specific board designs that partners have to follow.
That really just leaves the RMA experience, which is going to depend on what country you're in.

Generally people just go with whatever is cheapest because the extra hundred dollars for a cooler that's a few degrees colder generally isn't worth it.

>>108161936
PNY and gainward?

>>108161941
you don't need to upgrade CPU on that system, the gains are going to be very minimal unless we're talking specific workload.

>>108161947
>>108161936
cheapest here is MSI Shadow lol

>>108161941
12900ks is still pretty solid. next gen cpus from both brands are much improved over current gen ones so i think its best you wait

>>108161954
>>108161960
Thanks. I'm decently happy with my build I just get that itch with sales.

>>108161971
if your just gaming, it'd be worth it IMO if you can scam someone by selling your 12900ks and motherboard at a different price to get a 9800x3d/9850x3d and b850 board at minimal cost (<$100 out of pocket)

>>108161971
if you're playing games you can always get new peripherals or chair or whatever.
GPU and monitor are much more important too but they're costly

>>108161983
>at a different price
at a high enough price*

>>108161985
I'm fine for all that, monitor, keyboard, mouse, chair. I'll just save and wait. My CPU is the current weakest link and it's really not that far off.

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>>108159979
is it even worth building a PC right now? The memory prices are insane

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>Panic built a new AM5 rig
>Having more problems with it than I ever had with my old one
>Old one was perfectly fine looking back at it
This must be karmatic retribution for the one time I actually succumb to panicfaggotry.

>>108161678
I bought the 5 pack. As long as they’re below 60% they’re quiet and effective, above that they’re noticeable. I have those 5 (three intake, two exhaust) along with another 7 running in my case and I only get a nice low hum.

>>108161757
>It was awful and a very bad financial decision motivated purely by lights and glass.
THIS CASE COSTED 250 DOLLARS AND DOESN'T EVEN HAVE BASIC FEATURES LIKE CABLE TIES
I would not even pay 50 dollars for this case
Even a Spec-04 is a better buy than this

>>108162012
people compromise with stuff like buying 16gb instead of 32 or 1tb nvmes over 2, or going am4

>>108162037
*P14 (non-pro)

>>108161876
Why not $100 German case (Pure Base 600)
And $100 of German fans (Pure Wings 3 PWM or Silent Wings 4)
For silence-maxxing

>>108162012
Simply put: no.

>missed out on the pure wings 3 high speed 3-pack sale for $33
fuck me and fuck paying 15 dollars per fan

>>108162051
I heard the P14 Pro was better because it supposedly has better motor noise around the 1000 RPM range which is where I like to keep my fans at in performance scenarios so I bought one for like 8 bucks and it manages to wrangle air through the front of my side panel intake case decently it seems, going off the finger test

>>108162025
IME, "platform stability" is completely dependant on your cpus's IMC roll, brand of motherboard and ram chips used

>>108162025
my gigabyte b850 mobo, 7800x3d are stable
I dont do extreme oc, use latest bios and other available updates and so on
my am4 system actually had issues at launch, am5 has no problems

what problems does your system have?

>>108162025
Personally I'm almost done with my am4 upgrade and completion of my spare. It has been a good choice. From 5600x, 16gb, 3070 8gb yo 5950x 64gb, 5070ti 16gb. Even Windows runs noticeably better and loads thumbnails faster. 10/10 would waste my money again

>>108162054
Budget, I liked the look, and it came with 4 pwm fans already. Although in retrospect that might have been a good way to go.

>>108162109
>what problems does your system have?
Mostly the ram has been a real bitch. It doesn't feel like its seating right and I just realized this morning that only 1 was being recognized. Can't tell if it's the ram itself, the slots on my mb or I'm just a big retard. Plus after switching to my new pc I have to use that newer, longer captcha, which I never had to before.

>>108162025
it's an AMD platform, it's normal

>>108162154
I had trouble installing ram since it took so much force but thats just something you have to manage
4chan did the same to me but thats hardly related to am5

>>108162045
It was 2015 and PCMag gave it a 4/5.
I didn't know shit.

>>108162162
>I had trouble installing ram since it took so much force but thats just something you have to manage
Maybe I just need to use some pure monkey strength then when I get the chance to re-seat it. I just feel like it's a bit off compared to my old rig.
>4chan did the same to me but thats hardly related to am5
Oh yeah, I know. I just miss the old one.

>>108162154
Make sure you use the right slots and get them in properly. There was an anon some time ago that had similar issues.

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>look inside "german" fan designer company
>chinese

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>look inside "designed in germany" case/fan/cooler company
>chinese

>>108162207
It's weird how Germans are so good at making fans...

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>>108162207
your Germans are better than mine :(

>>108159979
Nicotranny
Nicofaggot
Nicojeet

Get a job you unemployed underage canadian loser
Post more wrong things, you're good at that

>>108162025
AMD is unstable shit and intel explodes. It's a tough call.

>>108162190
It's the second and fourth slots right? A2 and B2? I hope I haven't forgotten THAT much in the time it's been since my last build.

>>108162283
It depends on your mobo so better check the manual. For my Asus board it's A2/B2

>>108162308
I'll have to give it a look when I get home. Appreciate it anon.

I need a monitor that fulfills the following specifications:
>cheap 4K @160Hz+ IPS (optionally mini led) 2nd and 3rd monitor to run along with a 240hz QD-OLED (which runs @160to180Hz because of limited UHBR13.5 bandwith)
>95%+ Adobe / DCI-P3
because I want stuff to look as accurate as possible, even if it's not the main monitor

Is there anything other than the KTC M27P6?

>>108162154
ddr5 isnt as easy to install as ddr4. the slots are no longer installed through hole and are not back drilled so they arent as durable and prone to breakage if you aren't careful and apply too much lateral force, and they dont give any tactile feedback when inserted into the slot

>>108162339
AW2725QF?

>>108162025
Skill issue. Don't skimp on motherboard or get GSkill/VColor ram, idiot.

>>108162416
G.SKILL has always worked well for me. What brand do you prefer?

>>108162416
low quality bait
>>108162438
gskill ddr5 has been hit or miss for me
6000cl36 - unstable trash because of samsung b-die
6000cl30 and 6000cl26 - pretty good because of sk hynix a-die

>>108162392
thank you, that is interesting

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>now micro sd prices are surging
aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>tfw just discovered that my CM Force 500 GPU support bracket for motherboard standoffs works to support ATX motherboards like normal screws on standoffs
>somehow never tested this all these years instead cooking up improvised solutions
>condemned myself to PCB warping meanwhile
FUUUUUUUU

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>even high-end 9800x3d + 5090 rigs have only single channel ram now
2026 will be looked upon as an interesting year in pc building history

>>108162512
Define interesting.

>>108162522
>Define interesting
Yes, I agree

When is Noctua's CPU liquid cooler coming out?

>>108159979
>Avoid ASRock AM5 boards
I got the Livemixer a few years ago(for the 7800X3D) since it was recommended
am I fucked?

>>108162445
>Low quality bait
No, sorry. I'm right. I'm a boomer.
Always splurge on tried and true brands and give mobos 8 months of bios revisions to work out the kinks.

Also buying the lowest end feature motherboard for consumer that isn't based on an OEM design is just asking for issues.

>>108162438
Anything but those two.
Corsair, Crucial my first pick
Kingston was so so in my past
Nothing but trouble with GSkill and I'm vindicated

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/you-can-now-file-your-g-skill-class-action-claim-to-get-a-cut-of-the-usd2-4-million-settlement-deceptive-marketing-class-action-now-accepting-payout-submissions

>>108162512
Check Amazon and 3 out of 5 times when you see single rank or 1/3 dimms it's always a Hispanic
Picture reviews are hilarious to waste time on for PC hardware

Im thinking of building a pink looking pc for my gf. Ive only done 1 build, want to do a small micro atx this time for her.
>AMD Ryzen 7 9700X
>GIGABYTE B850M EAGLE WIFI6E
Is this shit overkill, just want her to be able to play new shit like gta6 so ill find some gpu for this set up. Will try white components and pink fans and cables.

>>108162642
microatx is pain so dont
am5 only makes sense for x3d cpus for gaming

>>108162604
brilliant, have a (You)

>>108162650
kill yourself

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bwoah
just one of these silent wings 4 fans costs as much as a 5-pack of P14 Pro's which are 30 per fan, which is 1/3 cheaper than a pure wings 3
idk about arctic fans but i somehow doubt that be quiet fans are 4.5 times better than one p14 pro is

>>108162642
>for my gf.
right... yeah...

>>108162666
its better than noctua, thats why its so expensive. arctic isn't as good as noctua but they still get the job done.

>>108162687
>its better than noctua
subjective
also Noctua has longer MTBF iirc

>>108162687
>its better than noctua
In what way? And don't say it's quite.

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>>108162723
And it's prettier :)

>>108162723
arctic offers 6 year warranty on their fans, be quiet offers 3 years for all their products which I think speaks to their confidence
or so the saying goes

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>>108162666
and why is the light wings cheaper than the silent wing here
it has to be the rated hours surely

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>>108162644
Why is it a pain? So when I built one I didnt realize how massive these things are now. Micro looks cute especially the pink case.
>>108162667

>>108162776
>posting irls just to prove some random stranger on 4chan wrong
admirable, but mistaken

>>108162739
I love Austrian autism engineering

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AHHHHHH MAKE IT STOP

SOMEONE REC ME A GOOD HELIUM HARD DRIVE ILL PAY UP TO $400 ea
ILL WANT TO BUY TWO SO ONE IS A MIRROR

FUCK


https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/western-digital-is-already-sold-out-of-hard-drives-for-all-of-2026-chief-says-some-long-term-agreements-for-2027-and-2028-already-in-place

>>108162644
>am5 only makes sense for x3d cpus for gaming
It really be how it do though.

>>108162803
If it's any consolation Open AI is slated for bankruptcy

>>108162809
Not anytime in the near future.
The entire industry and financial system is built around lying and cooking the books for them.

https://youtu.be/W4KlfgkS1xg

FGR/Mixed mode is a game changer for AM5 despite what Buildzoid says

>>108162803
Micro SDs are surging because of this too btw

What's the best NVME heatsink I can buy for under $25? I'm wondering if my drive idling at 45c makes a difference in case temperature.

>>108162012
Just buy a subscription to GeForce Now at this point. The future is owning nothing and being happy. Better be prepared to accept that or be disappointed.

>>108162809
people have been saying that since 2024

>>108162856
You said the exact same thing during the crypto craze then when prices fell you said games were shit anyway so there's no point to buying anything

>>108162809
The simple truth of geopolitics would never allow this to happen. The US is competing with China in the AI race, and they will burn the rest of the country and eat the poor for lunch to make sure they win.

>>108162845
would be nice if he also tested bz's ez timings

>>108162847
>Micro SDs are surging because of this too btw
Are they really? Am I really going to have to stock up on HDDs AND get a new SD card for my Switch 2? Why does everything have to suck so unbelievably bad?

>>108162871
It's not a fps test it's a stutter test and you don't need a graph just use your eyes. PoE2 is notorious for stutter and it's gone when you use the correct ram mode.

>>108162864
The difference is that crypto was a frivolity, a digital trinket, at bestt. AI however is literally world-changing. It's literally the key to godhood, immortality. Just the prospect of AGI ensures that someone, somewhere is going to be chasing it, and every company wants to make sure that it's themselves that holds that key, holds that leverage over their competitors. AI isn't going anywhere, it will continue growing even as the rest of the economy shrinks, and if they start having budget issues, the government is right there to bail them out.

>>108162892
So true, I even have a new equation to propose: e=mc2+AI

>>108162892
ai made the world worse so far
I wonder when will the good things come

>>108162883
2tb is nearly $400, up from like $270 this time last month. 1.5TB went up to $240 from $190 this morning.
I wanted to get a one with a shitload of space for emulating om my Steam Deck, but I'm not sure of how large to go, only to find out that the prices are climbing this fast already. I just wanted to fucking play video games, man.

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>>108162505
>GPU can't actually seat properly and click into place because the support bracket is too thick
FUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>108162918
theyre already here
>>>/aicg/

>>108162929
in hindsight, I should have bought the dramless SSD for $150 or the dramful 2TB SSD for $200 when I had the chance

>>108162889
bz's own testing showed that there's minimal difference between the modes once you OC
I wonder how that translates to game stutters

>>108162505
people need to RTFM more

>>108162666
Any fan that makes noise is worthless to me.
So, if the Silent Wing makes no noise by comparison, it's worth way more than 4.5 times as much.

https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-b390-compute

INTEL WON

AYYMDEAD LOST

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>>108162929
>Check Amazon
>2tb sd card was $160 in November
>It's $380 now
WHEN WILL THIS NIGHTMARE END!?

>>108162981
they are asking to get Luigi'd, and they might

>>108162981
>he didnt take the last ship out on black friday
ngmi

>>108162980
I don't use my graphics card for the Ubuntu command line. Show the gaming performance.

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>Pure Base 500 let you install 140mm fans everywhere for a total of 6 140mm fans
>Pure Base 600 only lets you install 4 140mm fans
>doesn't even let you install an extra third 120mm fan on the front and unofficially on top even though the physical space is there
>120mm exhoost
WTF is their problem? The Pure Base 500 despite being a cheaper model, loaded up with SW4P's might just have the best dampening fan-wise, dunno about hard disks since the cage is not free floating there and the underside of the PSU shroud is not lined with foam I think.

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Well fuck.

I got one of those AMD 9850X3D CPUs from that Newegg Doorbuster deal for 400$. And it came with a Game code for some new 70$ game, which I was just going to sell.

But you need to have the CPU you bought installed onto your PC in order to redeem the code.
What a scam.

>>108163019
Sorry pal, imagine how those poor game devs would feel if you gave it to a friend for free or, God forbid, sold it for money.

>>108163019
Yeah, they've been clamping down on that shit for years now.
It used to be you could get a load of shit for World of Tank by buying Nvidia codes.

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>>108162803
PLEASE RESPOND

IVE ONLY BOUGHT WD BLACK IN THE PAST BUT WANT A HELIUM ONE NOW

fuck AI faggotry so much for this hell its worse than the crypto bullshit years ago

>>108163019
its been this way for a long time. instead of a code you download some app and you link your steam/xbox account.

>>108163055
>its worse than the crypto bullshit years ago
No it isn't, you can still walk into a Micro Center and get parts, you couldn't do that in 2021

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ps6 getting delayed

>>108163074
Good, and Xbox forcing a release next year will sink it completely

>>108163074
makes sense. they wasted all their memory supply on ps5 pro and playstation portal. microsoft has the cash to outbid them on memory while sony is still too busy trying to make money off bungie.

>>108163074
Good. P5 is fine for me. Graphics dont improve anymore.

>>108163074
Laughs in 5090.

>>108163074
It's actually insane to think that the PS5 is 6 fucking years old now. It barely feels like this generation has even started, and they were already planning on making a new one?

>>108163089
yeah they're not making new games for that gpu owner class
this is more like the entire industry being set back and money leaving to AI AI AI

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Someone find me another eBay listing with stolen goods.

$450 for a 4TB Gen SSD was crazy. And now I really want another one. I should have bought two before he sold out.

>>108163089
better hope it doesn't die on you like every other 3090/4090 owner

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BRO
5x price increase is INSANE

>>108163074
I wonder how much they could upgrade the GPU with that kind of delay. Not changing it would mean releasing a console in 2029 with an entry level 2023-2024 chip, which would at least be funny.

>>108163074
>ps6 delayed
>still no games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1JEmnTjdyA

>>108162642
if it's not itx you might as well just do an X50 build

>>108163073
Irrelevant because the majority can't afford it anyway. The situation is objectively worse than the crypto runs in all metrics.
>>108163074
Anyone with half a brain knew this would happen. What I wonder is if the hardware will last that long. The PS5's liquid metal cooling is already prone to leakage.
>>108163082
This won't happen, they're going through the exact same problems. Gaming will become a luxury hobby, though we may get a small indie boom. We're not likely to see optimization take the forefront either. The industry will likely regress and ultimately depress. Streaming will be the proposed "cure", lack of functionality be damned. Sony has already patented graphical assets that are streamed to the console while the game "skeleton" is all thats actually installed.

>>108163185
>worse than the crypto runs in all metrics
lol lmao even

>>108163073
It feels like the opposite side of the coin this time. Supply is pretty full for the most part, but you have to spend absolutely retarded amounts of money for it.

>Got my computer together last year.
>Opted for 2TB SSD because I didn't want to go into debt over building a PC.
>Feels a little small now.

Ugh. My steak is too juicy, my lobster is too buttery.
It's a dumb situation, and I just need to practice better discipline with not hording shit.
But, I really shoulda gotta a 4TB whilst they were cheap, damn.

>>108163185
>Sony has already patented graphical assets that are streamed to the console while the game "skeleton" is all thats actually installed.
Isn't that literally how MSFS works? How can Sony patent it?

>>108163102
>yeah they're not making new games for that gpu owner class
So I'm good for another 10 years! Nice!
>>108163120
My 3090 is still rocking and I have three more years on my 5090 warranty.

>>108163227
I returned a 4TB because I already had 3. I wish I just ate the $400 debt... Since it's twice as much now. I didn't know it was no where near peaking...

>>108162803
>>108163055

PLEASE RESPOND
HDD-SAMA CHADS
anyone who knows anything about CMR/HELIUM please pass on your knowledge to me

>>108163185
>The situation is objectively worse than the crypto runs in all metrics
If "all metrics" means "I was in high school and couldn't afford it anyway" then sure

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I think the reasons that FG gets hate from certain segments of online retards is that

1) most of them are wooden PC chair have-nots who don't have access to good FG
2) their only experience with FG is lossless scaling or AMD's FG
3) they can't contextualize what ms of latency actually feels like (5 ms!?!?! unplayable!1!11)
4) disconnect between a certain level of smoothness and the latency they're used to getting at that level of smoothness

I'm not saying FG is perfect, but much like upscaling, it's going to become a very good technology as it is improved over time. When a game doesn't have good FG, and you're stuck at 60 FPS, you'll miss not being able to multiply that to 200 FPS with FG

>>108163303
FG is amazing. It's only going to get better.

I was thinking about the fsr int8 thing a lot and I think I figured out why it's being held up
they are 100% wait for the steam machine launch to announce fsr4 on rdna2 and 3, that will be a big steam machine selling point, it's 100% a deal they have with valve to sell more steam machines
this is the only option that makes sense

>>108163303
It's MFG now, only amdrone copers have their shit tier FG even intel arrow lake has MFG lol

>>108161004
I give zero flying fucks about playing nu-slop games. I'm just happy with playing not so old games in 4K at reasonable price.
7800 XT owner btw

>>108163303
Framegen is pretty great.
I think the way forward is going to see frame generation more heavily implemented within the engine, so assets beyond a certain distance from the camera rely more on frame gen, or a type of framegen that allows the outer edges of the screen to be framegen whilst the center stays native and things like that.
And once it gets to that point, nobody is going to notice it at all, and it'll just be a thing that realtime rendering does.

>>108163335
AMD being dunked on by a $10 program and even Intel is embarrassing.

>>108162845
game is badly made if it needs brand new bios feature to run stutter-less
I will still try it because I play poe2 and it does sometimes feel stuttery even when I get the full fps of the monitor.

>>108163358
Intel has always dunked on AMD in the software front
What with their optimized maths libraries extracting more performance from skylake+++ than what AMD can do with zen2/3

>>108159979
I am saving up money for a rig so I can finally have more space on my desk.
Is there anything interesting coming up this year that I should look for?
I want to build an all amd machine to use on Linux and being able to use actually capable LLMs or whatever is the next step in this meme to have private local access that doesn't phone home.

AMD Ryzen 7 3800x 8 core cpu 16 gb system memory. What kind of gpu can i put it here? Currently have a rx 580 8gm memory. Should I just look at the recommended gpus and check price points?

>>108163303
>wooden PC chair have-nots
what
are you saying that wooden chairs are what they should have?

>>108163382
with these prices? nothing is interesting, but zen 6 launches at the end of the year and rdna5 launches next year, the upgrades will be good but with the current prices you decide if you should upgrade

>>108163303
>>108163324
>>108163356
>unironically advocating for the fake frame cope when it's clear developers abuse it
With great hacks, comes great responsibility.

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>>108163387
you really gotta understand how some poorfags are living out here

>>108163397
Devs are lazy hacks regardless of tech. I'm just glad there is a workaround.

>>108163407
that floor is better than 99% of american homes, the guy has different priorities

>>108163386
3070, 4060 ti.

>>108163407
the books topics are the icing on the cake

>>108163396
>but zen 6 launches at the end of the year
oh you sweet summer child

>>108163386

rx 9060 xt 16gb might be it. What kind of power does it draw? Im going to have to peek at my power supply but I think it should be fine unless that gpu is pulling alot.

GPU - RTX 3070 8GB
CPU - 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12600KF, 3700 Mhz, 10 Cores, 16 Logical Processors
RAM - Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz
MoBo - ASUS B660M-P D4

How much do you think I could sell a rig like this for?

It's my current PC that I'm going to sell when all my new stuff gets here.

>>108163426
maximum 170w iirc

>>108163397
You really think developers would actually optimise shit?

>>108163416
Personally I feel like fake frames should be something to help weaker cards keep up. It shouldn't be the defacto for near $1,000 cards.

>>108163423
>>108163396

This anon. Expect everything to be on hold for like 5 years. Or at least greatly slowed. Companies are going to refresh last generation not even current shit.

>>108163407
this is central America I've seen so many Ecuadorians with this exact same tiling
They are cheap tiling brought in by the truckloads to these countries
>>108163417
lmao no and cope more

>>108163427
Unironically hold onto all of it. The industry is too turbulent right now to actually sell off anything unless you're top 1%.

>>108163427
sell the ram and the gpu, no one is going to buy the motherboard and cpu, then when the ram drought ends in a few years, but cheap ram and make a nas out of it

>>108163437
Yea I agree. It's amazing on high class cards, but I think they will get it smoother on cheaper stuff.

>>108163427
$1200 minimum

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>>108163407

>>108157737
there seems to be two sides regarding the Pulsar monitors
one side saying it's the best thing since sliced bread
other side saying the native oled panel benefits cannot be beaten EVEN at same/lower hz where the theoretical benefit of Pulsar would show, but IPS inherent slowness is not worth it even then

for 500fps+ esports it seems pretty clear you need the fastest and highest hz since you are not gonna cap fps and introduce more end to end latency, but the interesting is that some prefer oled due to panel benefits even at lower and matched hz as pulsar, some say they can see the slow ips transitions still

Pick 1 of these shills to trust or TryItYourself(tm)

>>108158907
>Samsung + VA slop
two negatives

>>108163473
>>there seems to be two sides regarding the Pulsar monitors
yeah one side that owns oleds and the others that don't

>>108163437
What do you suggest the tensor cores on these high-end GPUs do instead?

>>108163386
5060, used 4070, 5070
Consider a better monitor as well

>>108163427
Selling for $700 - $800 on ebay in mid January. Probably start at $999 and then drop the price slightly if it doesn't sell fast enough for you.

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>>108163447
I was just going to sell the whole thing as a prebuilt.

I have a whole new set of PC parts coming. And my new rig is way, way better.

>>108163457
Do you really think I could get that much for it? I was thinking like $900.

>>108163397
I haven't seen abuse of FG outside of Crapcom's MH: Wild Diarrhea

>>108163536
Yeah, this sounds about right. If I can get that much for it, it will offset over half of what I spent making my new build.

>just paid $425 for 32gb of cl34 ddr5 7200mhz ram

I'm sorry but how is this fair?

>>108163568
>7200mhz ram
should've bought slower and just OC'd it

>>108163437
Ironically, FG is worse on weaker cards. Upscaling is the savior for weaker cards, but FG is not, because you need to hit some frame rate as a base before applying FG. Also you don't get the theoretical maximum multiplier on weaker cards that are already fully saturated before applying FG. FG is best on higher end cards that can take you from 4K 60 FPS with good settings to 240 FPS with FG

>i love fake frames and real cocks!
i'm sure you do

>>108163577
5600 Mhz is the JEDEC standard.
Going for 7200 Mhz is overclocking.
Though I think the latest motherboards BIOS are set to overclock RAM by default because one karen sued Micron and won.

why did we stop improving sata? why dont we get sata 4?

>>108160918
>Monitor itself is fine
NIGGA BOUGHT A 360hz 1440p IPS EDGE LIT FOR 900€ AND CALLED IT JUST FINE DIS NIGGA COOKED!

if you can't run pulsar and notice anything it's doa and you should swap monitors

>I cannot see the difference
did you do all the memes? turn it on, lock fps, cross chech the alien ufo, lower fps, higher fps, in game on off pulsar? else you got scammed again by a 900€ edge lit ips

>>108161778
you think they are gonna spend time developing a high speed 240hz-360hz ips? the LG one that is the only one on the market is slow slop
it's pretty much a cooked market
oleds gonna be on usable 1000hz before this
they ran late on pulsar it should have dropped years ago but they were in too deep on the investment cost and just kept coping with the 2 autistic employees doing the work and now it dropped when oleds are 500hz
cooked

>>108162012
if you have enough money everything is worth because the objective value of money goes down

>>108162339
just buy another oled

>>108163074
ps6 has no games, GatesCube has windows11, they are cooked, finished, xbawbx won
BB is emulated on PC
it's over

>>108163227
4tb if you need single sided, 8tb if not
really that simple
anything else is poor cope

>>108163407
the books under table is absolutely demonic
the plastic chair is crazy
that guy has a second monitor, I don't
let that sink in for a second

>>108163483
only considering mostly opinions from people who AB tested both, some people are siding with Pulsar, some not
can't tell who's Jewing who anymore
gotta fall back to test it yourself to be sure these days

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Goyim are catching on that sloptubers cannot express real opinions regarding tech and monitors
even ledditors are nooticing

>>108163580
Just framegen from 240p and upscale from there.

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>>108163629

>>108163639
TFTCentral and hub said in the latest pod to just stop nooticing banding on woled tandem monitors
stop looking at test pattern it's not normal use!

GPU - ASUS Prime 5070Ti OC 16BG - $750
CPU - Ryzen 7 9850X3D - $400
RAM - Kingston FURY Beast 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s DDR5 CL36 - $100
SSD - WD_BLACK SN8100 4TB M.2 2280 PCIe 5.0 NVMe SSD - $450
MoB - MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk MAX - $180
PSU - be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 850W - $90
AIO - ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 280 - $85
Case - Fractal Design Meshify 3 Black Solid - $120

I don't want to add all this up. I don't want to know how much I wasted on my new PC.
I'll feel better if I'm ignorant.

>>108163620
dear monitor-schizo-kun
a. What do you suggest for someone who is old and only cares about hitting 120Hz - I have an ancient BenQ strobe 144Hz I cap at 120Hz refresh @1080
I just got a new 5070Ti so I don't care about fake frames and 4K
Would that tandem W-OLED or pulsar be better for me? I can suffer TN/VA due to that BenQ
b. Do you know anything about helium CMR drives and any suggestions see >>108162803

>>108163620
>900€
the monitor goes for 750 here. I've seen offers for 700 as well with resident evil if you don't mind to wait. I'd need to do a side by side comparison with my other monitor. Pulsar default setting is 90fps to kick in. I reduced it to 75 which is the minimum for now till they patch.

>>108163629
>As ever, we don't do sponsoured or paid content on this channel so we can give you an unbiased review of (ITEM)
>We'd like to thank (BIG COMPANY) for sending us (ITEM WORTH $1000+ FOR FREE), they've really put the work in this time and it's a great product. :^)

>>108163668
>RAM - Kingston FURY Beast 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s DDR5 CL36 - $100
Was that a typo or did you manage to find the deal of the decade?

>>108163668
subtle brag or just fishing for (you)s? imo you fucked up only on the PSU, I'd never touch be quiet and let alone the 13th version

>>108163681
I bought it months ago. It's actually what led to me building a whole new PC. Because my current one can't even use DDR5 RAM.

>>108163687
Is the PSU really that bad? I just took one that was ranked "A" on this sheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=1973454078#gid=1973454078

I've seen people say it's reliable.

>>108163695
13th Gen gas a lot of hit and miss exploding or DOA capacitor burst on first boot
That's why I only singled out 13th Gen
Also no fan protection for a lot of their models last I checked
YMMV / I also heard mid warranty help in non Euro places
That's why I stick to Seasonic and Corsair, very easy USA warranty claims

>>108163407
I used to live like this when I moved from the USA back to Poland
Now I just waste money endlessly buying the wrong thing after the wrong thing

>>108163639
Jay is too much into the Corsair mojo
>>108163659
MLID said just buy the <16GB card

Sill in the new phase for building here are the parts I have.

CPU: Intel 1270kf
GPU: 4070 Founders
Motherboard: ASRock B760 Pro RSD4 LGA1700 ATX
PSU: Thermaltake 850W
Ram: 32gb DDR4
Storage: WD Blue 2TB, Samsung Evo 970 1TB

Looking into cooling options, I have a large Ibuypower case that should fit most anything. Similar to the Trace Mesh. I'm in the U.S and still have a a budget of 200$ or so. Any feedback appreciated trying to upgrade with combo of parts I had on hand. Would a Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined be enough?

>>108163725
If they gave you 15k worth of products you'd do some dick sucking to.

>>108163695
>I bought it months ago.
Oh well that makes sense. A computer like that for under $2,200 is a steal now.

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>>108163712
According to that spread sheet that PSU has an extra long warranty.

And it's still "A" ranked.
The PSU was literally the cheapest part of the build. Maybe I'll look around for a better one. Any suggests? I need like 850W for the build.

>>108159979
I have a logitech m570 trackball mouse and it's double clicking a shit ton, I don't wanna buy yet another mouse and I know I'm gonna fuck up the soldering process for replacing the switches... Is there a trackball mouse out there that has optical switches for the buttons or switches that I don't need to desolder every time they fail?

>>108163735
Read case manual or put case model into Google to get maximum cooler height
Cannot help unless you post this
It's the most crucial dude

>>108163807
If it's new and recent then keep it
I'm personally paranoid and for that price you can't beat it except
https://computers.woot.com/offers/seasonic-electronics-vertex-gx-1000z-1
$140
1000w
12 year warranty

>>108163737
To be fair, Corsair used to make some cool products before they went public
Obsidian case for example or the Vengeance K95

>>108163735
>Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined be enough?
I'd get a dual tower cooler. Thermalright has a large selection if that's the brand you want.

>>108163768
I don't think I paid over MSRP for any of the items in my build, so I think I did pretty good.

If I can sell my old rig for ~$1000 I'll be really happy. Will have basically been a $1000 new PC at that point.

Is be quiet! maxxing a good idea if you're a noise-sensitive sperglord? After an in-person demonstration I'm kind of tempted to partially embrace their ecosystem.

>>108163659
I was thinking RGB Tandem since monitors unboxed said it was the best but then saw this youtube video from some guy with like 3 subscribers saying he only made the video to show how awful the banding/dirty screen effect was and that he's sending it back immediately. Was literally just on the home page never even searched for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uysy-5FmeS0

I can't see why they are still shilling them so much. It looks worse than anything I've seen in qd-oled.

>>108163866
Definitely wish I had built around black friday instead of stalling for so long, though thankfully the only thing I really overpaid on was the ram and boot nvme, so it wasn't too painful.
>>108163890
I got a Pure Base 501 and a couple of their fans to go with it and it's dead quiet, especially when I'm just using the internet.

>>108163735
Don't buy a B board with a K CPU. I would consider a Frozen Prism (or something similar) with an FE 4070 because of the way airflow works with those cards

>>108163843
>>108163859

Looking at case specs I can fit 165mm for max height for reference.

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>>108163735
>ASRock B760
Just get a Z790. Intel isn't like AMD it is basically never worth buying the B motherboard. They cuck you on everything for pretty much no reason and then block OC. Their BIOSes are also much shitter.

>>108163670
If you care about mitigating sample and hold phenomena above all else, Pulsar. If you care about HDR and contrast, 240 Hz 32" 4K OLED.

>>108163983
>Don't buy a B board with a K CPU
Intel consumes so much power under full load these days that I can't imagine buying a K CPU over a non-K or T CPU
>>108163915
>a couple of their fans to go with it
I was wondering whether to go with the Pure Base 600, or the Pure Base 501 or the old Pure Base 500 because I saw someone load it up with six 140mm Silent Wings 4 (dunno if they were the Pro fans or not) on their Alder Lake rig with the Dark Rock pro 5 and it was basically blending in with background noise in desktop. I imagine that case ought to have better cooling potential by some order of magnitude than the Pure Base 600 due to the more compact HDD cage under the PSU shroud and direct path to the CPU, since there's no 5.25" bay blocking intake.

>>108163997
Yea that should be plenty of space. Just look for dual tower cooler you like and double check height specs for the cooler.

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>>108159979
Bros I have an Asus Astral oc 5090 and I noticed that whenever I shut my PC down, I see these weird fucking red squares and lines flash on my monitor. That is the only time I see them but I don't like it.

Does that mean my fucking GPU is dying on me? Its even the liquid cooled version and I checked the Nvidia firmware updates and even temperatures. Nothing seems out of the ordinary, so what the fuck is it? I know people say that when they see random red and green squares ever pop up, its a BAD sign, fuck.

>>108164111
that's totally fine and normal on nvidia gpus

>>108164111
>5090
fell for it award

>>108164111
I don't think mine does this. You sure it's not the monitor itself?

>>108164111
The demonic possession is an intended feature.

>>108164129
Trollpost with samefag replies. You are in a nicotroon shillthread after all.

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>>108164111
That is fucking weird

>>108162957
>>108163364
With the old refresh mode the ram stops doing whatever its doing to refresh its cells. This stalls any read or write and manifests as stutter. With the new refresh mode instead of all rows stopping only one bank stops while the rest are active. This has huge latency implications for certain real time work loads. Intel always supported FGR but this is new on AM5.

are barracuda hdds really that bad or is it just old memes that are still alive?

>>108164022
Is the 12700kf a bad cpu? For the budget and parts I already have it seems the best pick.

B850 or X870e? And which manufactuer between Gigabyte and MSI?

>>108164425
msi, b850 is enough

>>108164425
x870e only if you need USB4 for some reason or you can disable it for more m2 lanes. Otherwise B850 is sufficient.

>>108163074
we're in such a bad position where if it pays off we're all screwed, if it doesn't pay off.. we're all screwed

>>108163095
It's because it takes way longer to make games now, back in the PS2/PS3 days you had entire game trilogies delivered within a generation.

>>108164389
If I remember right some cloud company posted statics of failed drives and the barracuda had a slightly higher percentage rate of failure compared to the other drives years ago. I had one die on me but to be fair it was on when my pc case fell over because somehow the weight of a full tower isn't heavy enough to prevent an audio cable getting snagged by the chair wheel from dragging it down. It didn't fail right away, it was some months later but I just contribute the failure to that.

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Another market-driven OP for anons

>>108164479
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>>108164446
I ended up getting an MSI x870 e-p through a microcenter bundle. Is there any real use for USB4 and is there any good reason to turn it off?

>>108164472
>some cloud company posted statics of failed drives
https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-storage/resources/hard-drive-test-data

>>108164402
Not bad at all. Whichever 12700 is cheaper is what you want for your board. The 12700k is not an amazing overclocker since it's already pushed pretty hard. 12th is the last decent intel gen. Intel really wore the 13th and 14th gen past realistic limits from the factory.

>>108164561
Huh, thought they were a cloud company for some reason.

>>108164525
>Is there any real use for USB4 and is there any good reason to turn it off?
I don't have any USB4 devices. I think some external SSDs exist that can use it. It's not a given that you can turn it off but it was possible on some specific MSI and newer ASUS boards. You'd need to check your specific motherboard if it's possible and what it does. See mobomaps.com from the OP

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>>108164583
>thought they were a cloud company for some reason
...

>>108164628
Now you're just messing with me.

>>108161092
A $200 case doesn't guarantee you $100 worth of fans.

>>108162025
AM4 sisters we keep winning!

>>108164661
what do you think cloud means

>>108164897
Nigga I don't care who the company is my point. They're just some cloud company to me.