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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D
Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 9950X3D

*Multiple manufacturers report issues on AM5 platforms. New BIOS dropped.
*Raptor Lake microcode updating is mandatory

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (AM5 mount icky)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*<16 gb constrained even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 9070xt, 5070ti
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
*Pulsar monitors dropping, consider waiting for more reviews.

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.
>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
Intel XeSS 3 now out for Arc B- and A- series
5K27 MONITOR REVIEW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tg1aVeKakE
Steam console delayed, price raised because of RAM prices
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
DLSS presets M and L for ultra-performance with DLSS 4.5. Turing & Ampere significant performance hit, issues on ada & low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar is being reviewed
Prices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
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Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!

Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.

remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.

Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems", griefing /g/ by creating and self deleting the thread after a short while, deleting the OP img, shilling native vs upscaling, etc.
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gayming is gay
grow up you trannies
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>>108174881
would I get "discarded" if I say the word "nakadishi" [sic]
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update your bios please I beg of you
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>>108174881
>black gpu on all white build
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>>108174937
>update your bios
Specifically - why? Defend your thesis or you are a larping post-flooding shitposter.
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>>108174946
>black gpu on all white build
The whole thing looks like ass to me
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>>108174937
being this adamant about it is sus
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>>108174950
>>108174978
Enhanced system performance and stability.
In a age where system performance is going down and stability is whack.
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so true
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>>108174937
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someone explain why AI datacenters want HDD so much? why wouldn't they rather SSD?
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Any suggestions for USA buyers on where to buy good stock of CMR/helium drives? I heard Toshiba MG is a good reference.
Yes I'm asking again.

Also it appears the news is making others panic but off Amazon and Newegg.
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>>108175019
>others
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>>108175009
SSDs lose data when they're not powered on for a while. HDDs forever hold that data as long as the drive doesn't die.
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>>108175025
I had 2-3 diff models and capacities saved in my Amazon "save for later" say they went out of stock in the last 24 hours / no availability. Funny huh?
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>>108175009
They need capacity more than speed
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>>108174992
Verified garbage post babbling out generic terms.

>>108175006
kek

>>108175009
Never actually been in a real DC, huh? Cost per byte drives datacenters to use massive amounts of spinning rust. There are SSD based use cases as well.

>>108175036
>They need capacity more than speed
You answer is mostly technically correct, so it's mostly the best kind of correct.
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>>108174937
mod your BIOS to unlock secret, hidden pathways
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>let me just spend $2000 on a PC to play indie video games!

How do you crazies rationalize this?

PC gaming really is dead and is for insane psychopathic rich chuds who dont really understand how the world works.
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>>108175067
What do you suggest instead?
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>>108175067
>How do you crazies rationalize this?
By not being /poor/, faggot. Why don't you try some on-topic ranting over in >>>/v/.

>Oh right they don't like you there either.
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is we getting celestial
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>>108175067
>let me just spend $6000 on a 1 week vacation to a trinidad shithole

this is what normies do
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>>108175093
Why should I work when musk is worth 850 billion or some only fans whore makes $3000 a month showing her asshole or some retard youtuber gets $2000 a month for making retarded videos.

Working just means you're a sucker, even if I dont have a good gaming PC I still have my dignity.
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>>108175098
this year a nothingburger for pc hardware. wait for next year. the only tech to get excited about now are monitors.
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>>108175122
>the only tech to get excited about now are monitors.
What are the some of monitors you are wishing you could sample at home, anon?
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>>108175122
If everything else is dead, will this be the year of upgrading only the monitors?
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>>108175009
Fucktons of data + backup of same data + backup of backup of same data + cold backup of same data. Not to mention that besides training data, there are fucktons of virtual machines for the compute itself, each with it's own drive (local ssd for high iops), and all of that needs several layers of backups.
Plus fucktons of storage for future fucktons of data which is gonna be generated (which they will steal from you without permission), and fucktons of backups for that shit too.
And don't forget about versioning because same shit is stored 10 times in 10 different versions in 9000 different geographical locations just because. And CDN is there too.
As for HDD vs SSD. Each storage type has it's use case. SSD for high iops, HHDs for backups + warm + cold storage + any workload which doesn't need SSD iops. $/GiB for HDDs is also unreachable for SSDs.
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>>108175122
Could be. I'm in the Celestial waiting room. I don't like the 9700. 32gb is nice, but it's slow ram, and that hurts.
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128gb ddr5, 2tb portable ssd, B550MB, and a 5070ti. The combo of my dreams.
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>>108175132
I'm a huge QD shill. I want the RGB stripe panels.

>>108175144
Upgrading your sound system is also an option.
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>>108175168
>128gb ram
I wish I could afford this...
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>>108175168
Wow, surprising the 5070 ti costs twice as much as the 5070 regular version.
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>>108175168
I would've bought this if I didn't already build a month ago.
At least I have 64GB.
I would dump $800 on a 96GB kit with half decent timings if I could resell my 64 for $500.
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>>108175244
waiting to buy old stuff that datacenters can't use.

once drives reach a certain age, they don't want them.

additionally, some hardware is junk status due to its worthlessness post-ai.
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>>108175168
I got 98GB of RAM, and it's overkill, so I don't know what you'd do with 128GB of it.
It's not like it's not nice to have, but I wouldn't have bought 98GB at the current prices.
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>>108175168
>$1000 for a WINDFORCE GPU
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>>108175271
>I don't know what you'd do with 128GB of it.
you've never used an llm in your life.
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>>108175067
By having jobs? I make that much a day giving anesthesia.
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>>108175300
You're absolutely right!
I have never used an LLM (Large Language model) in my life.
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>>108175009
>Datacenter is just a bunch of servers
>Servers need everything servers need
>Servers need everything a regular computer needs and then some
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>>108175168
Nearly pulled the trigger on a similiar system for a workstation, but cheaped out and got a 32 gb mini pc instead from the fear that the workstation will become a 2k facebook machine, jokes on me because thats how much an actual facebook machine costs now.
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>>108175067
I bought a 3300€ pc several months ago(4500€ if you count LG 55" G5 oled which I use as a monitor) and have yet to play a single game, furthest I got is installing Cyberpunk and running few benchmarks
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>>108175067
PC gaming is an extremely cheap hobby.
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>>108174881
What's the best CPU/GPU combo for emulation? I wanna be able to run stuff like rpcs3/dolphin/cemu/yuzu maxed out
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>>108174881
Why even have case fans if it's entirely open air?
imagine dust
who does this shit
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>>108175413
Retarded weebs.
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>>108175406
9800X3D
GPU is largely irrelevant as long as it supports Vulkan 1.4 which all of them do
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So is it really true that fsr4 has been demolished by dlss 4.5?
I'd feel bad about it except it's not really possible to find a 5070ti anywhere anymore except for like 1200.
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RX 9070XT or RTX 5070 for VR?
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>>108175413
Where do you see case fans?
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>>108175529
None of the games I play even have DLSS or FSR.
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>>108175535
4090, I guess.
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>Michelin Star AI Chef
Did you get hired by Papa John's to make their new pan pizza?

https://nypost.com/2026/02/17/lifestyle/papa-johns-is-aiming-to-get-a-michelin-star-for-its-pizza/
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I work at a small manufacturer where though its outside my main role here, I help the IT guy frequently and they eventually want me to take his place. Is it reasonable to hoard all our optiplex desktops / dell latitudes / precision workstations as they get cycled out every 5-6 years? We literally just throw them in a big e-waste bin and it gets collected by a company once a year, we don't pay them anything and I don't know what they do with them. Lots of working shit though.

I have like 10 so far and early last year I even sold a couple because I was getting too many. Should I continue to hoard these for an inevitable total loss/destruction of home computing hardware in the coming years?
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>>108175614
unless you plan on selling the parts its just taking up space
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>>108175614
Sell what you can
If you can't keep the memory and NVME and toss the rest
Reformat and give to friends?
make one an HTPC streaming

that's what I did for a few

At least the small NVME you can throw in an enclosure and make them super super thumb drives
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>>108175549
Surprsingly me too. I wish warhammer 3 had FSR though. Can that optiscale thing I hear about work for it?
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>>108175392
Same, I finished my build last month and it's just an expensive way to watch netflix. I have a shitton of AAAs that I haven't even played a single game on this yet and I bought a shitton last black friday
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>>108175362
>got a 32 gb mini pc
What absolute faggotry is this to announce your heathen ways in /pcbg/. get-->out

>>108175413
>Why even have case fans if it's entirely open air?
Air still must be moved across the AIO for it to work, retard.

>imagine dust
Cheetle everywhere after a couple of years if the anon doesn't have OCD. Added maintenance, how disgusting.

>who does this shit
Looks like a /g/ mod approved build spec to me, anon.

>>108175529
>demolished
IDK about demolished. All the normies seem to be raving about perceived IQ, even amdfags have come to the same conclusion. Use case - maybe for this luddite:

>>108175549
>None of the games I play even have DLSS or FSR.

it doesn't matter, but what about (you)? Do you need the latest in enhanced boob-jiggling physics for your local /fap/ sessions? Just follow what the market tells you is /working/ for anons like you.

>>108174883
>Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.
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>>108175663
>an expensive way to watch netflix.
Netflix won't even give you 4k on PC so you really would have been better off with a TV.
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>>108175682
based fellow boomer poster
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>>108175663
Your AIO is upside-down.
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>>108175614
>I work
A wild wagie appears.

>Is it reasonable to hoard all our optiplex desktops / dell latitudes / precision workstations as they get cycled out every 5-6 years?
No.

>We literally just throw them in a big e-waste bin and
It's digital trash and why aren't you faggots offering them to charities as working Linux computers?

Hey this sounds like a task for (you), wageanon, go do some /pcbg/ for the /poor/.
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>Think I'm slick getting a 6tb WD Red drive for 60 bucks right after the announcement from WD
>Manufacture date is 2019 too, pretty good for the selection they had left
>Friend is like "bro 2019 is when they switched to SMR"
>Check
>It's SMR
How fucked am I?
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>>108175749
>How fucked am I?
6tb the for $60 - which would not get you a happy ending in most places - seems like a good deal. Just go ahead and throw your futanari collection on it, anon, you'll be fine.
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>>108175749
Do you honestly care about the speed of your mass storage device? The answer is always too slow for vidya and work now.
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>>108175749
if you're not using the drive for anything more than storage and reading most of the time, it's fine. SMR is worse when you want it to be doing some serious work loads for prolonged periods.
>WD announcement
Was there another one? I know about the CMR vs SMR debacle. I Google and visit WD's main site of every new drive I'm even considering buying these days.
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Since people are discussing CMR SMR.... yes, what are your thoughts about Toshiba MG helium drives? Anyone with warranty experience? I only have experience with WD blacks (same type I've been buying for 14 years) but obviously they're overpriced for my limited use now that I have SSD. What is a good CMR helium for warm (once a day read access and ~500mb write) and cold (once a week) backup?
Any diet hand suggestions?
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>>108175830
>diet
first*
hate this goddamn phone I should've gotten the bigger version for my NBA sized Michael Jordan hands
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>>108175801
This one. The AI datacenters are going to start chewing through years of HDD supply now, too.
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I bought an open box 77" LG C5 4K TV for $1600 new. Works fine, all accessories included, just the person ended up getting a different TV and returning this one. I'm looking to build a dedicated gaming PC for couch gaming. I play everything and am more than willing to utilize all the various Nvidia technologies to make 4K easier to play. Is the RTX 5090 the only 4K capable GPU these days? I would entertain the 9070XT or even an older 7900XTX for more VRAM, but it seems AMD's versions of the scaling technologies is either worse overall, or just not adopted by games
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>>108175849
If you can afford the 5090, get it. Otherwise pick a 4k card from the OP.

>>108174881
>>GPU
...
>4k : 9070xt, 5070ti
>-Native/High-end: 5090

If you want DLSS the choices are pretty clear. Some anons want to claim a 5070 (non-ti) can do 4k with DLSS 4.5 but - I have a 5070 and would not say that.
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>>108175849
The 5090 is there for people who want to run shitass unoptimized AAA slop at native 4k. It's overkill for everything else.
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>>108175880
I am waiting for a card that can run scenes without needing any aa.

I run games with aa off where possible. That's the real game. If you turn on enhancements, the image is actually degraded.
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>>108175830
my only experience with Toshiba drives were 2 of their N300 NAS 4TB HDD's. They both died within 3 months of each other and since then I only buy WD or Seagate.
>helium
pretty much any HDD over a certain capacity will be helium solely because of how many platters are involved these days. As for good CMR drives
>WD Red Pro
For some reason the Pro WD Reds are sometimes cheaper than the WD Red Plus even though the Pro is better with longer warranty. Maybe just demand
>WD Gold
Datacenter hard drive. Meant for super heavy writes and constant access/usage. Known for being louder during operation and more power hungry, however are built to be robust. Depending on sales, sometimes same price or slightly more (like $20) than a comparable Red Pro
>Seagate Ironwolf Pro
Solid overall NAS drive. I think the only difference is the Pro models have warranty
>Seagate EXOS
Similar to WD Gold, same sort of thing. Usually expensive all the time.
>>108175846
doesn't suprise me. This time line sucks so much dick. I'm tempted to just fill out my 8 bay synology NAS with 8x WD Red Pro 26TB models, buy 8 more of the same HDDs for swaps when drives die, then waiting out the bubble.
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>>108175849
Not big enough. My 4 year old broke my 85 inch TV so I bought a 98". After 4 months it feels small and now I want a 115-120. Sitting 13 feet away
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Damn I actually want to buy this one.
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>>108175913
I want the money lol give me the money, I'll send you some. mud. back.
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>>108175880
>The 5090 is
The undisputed marketplace performance king in the /consoomer/ arena, shillanon, we all know there is literally no card from any other vendor close to it's sheer mad power. If you want even more power, Nvidia will sell you an RTX Pro.

>>108175892
you should definitely just keep /wait/fagging on that one
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>>108175712
it works better upside down.

>>108175685
I don't even have 4k monitors, the thought of mounting it myself is killing me.
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Do you get any benefit buying a 240hz monitor when your frames max out at around 120 fps?
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Is there any reason to not get a Founders Edition RTX 5080? Friend of mine is a upper crust manager on the up and up for Best Buy and told me they have a couple RTX 5000 cards coming into stock. Told me he can get me an RTX 5080 FE for MSRP ($1000, I'll flip him an additional $100 for helping me out). By problems I mean overheating, throttling, hot spots and memory thermal run away, etc. I don't care about super giga boost clocks, just want dependability. I have the money for an RTX 5090 but I refuse to pay near scalper prices of $3500 for one. Fuck this shit
>>108175910
Lol yeah there was a part of me that wanted to get something insane, but I just don't have the room. I'd have to rearrange my entire living room and I really like my layout. I'm not 13' away though thankfully. Probably half that.
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>>108175947
No assuming the 120HZ and 240HZ monitor are the exact same in every other way. If the 120HZ monitor has worse response time (5ms vs 1ms for instance), or no VRR (freesync/Gsync), TN or cheap IPS vs actually good IPS and OLED/QLED, etc. But purely on a HZ basis? No difference. If your system is only capable of giving you 120-ish fps, you'll only use 120HZ.
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>>108175949
5080 is likely more dependable than most other AIB models because they don't juice the core.
VRM is also decent compared to an "MSRP" AIB card.
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Even BenQ has gone OLED....BenQ...these people said miniLED was the future
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>>108175475
Guess it's time to upgrade from my beloved 5800x3d
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>>108175934
I just go ahead. I really don't see reviews for aa off people. Obviously the rtx 6000 is the best, but who's going to show how good it is with no aa? (or ai junk)
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>>108175475
>9800X3D
it sure has taken over all of gaming. Meanwhile the 9900 sounds like a great mixed use cpu.
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>>108176095
>I really don't see reviews for aa off people
Create and publish some.
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Waiting on some retailer to list pg32ucdm3 they just did, 560€ more than a ucdmr on sale
Asus also dropping a lower tier 240hz refresh of the same, totally useless to have so many different models of the same shit it's crazy
Better wait for a deal this might be the best panel yet
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>>108175903
Absolutely based. Thank you anon

Now I hope AI bursts soon. I panic bought another WD black but I need one massive one for cold storage and another maybe to use as off-site storage.

Why couldn't they just be content with RAM and SSDs...
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>>108176196
If we power through this timeline just a little longer we'll have on demand video generation of multiple minutes. Just endure.
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>>108176221
Nah consumer PCs are not going to be alright for awhile

corpos will buy out all the dies then sell you a subscription service
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>>108176023
I'm surprised they didn't go Pulsar

Isn't Dyac and high refresh TN their entire brand
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>>108176196
if you have the money and can even find them, Seagate currently holds the largest consumer mechanical HDD capacity at 36TB. They're anywhere from $800 to $1000 each though. 26TB is the largest model you can get from the WD Red Pro line and they're like $450-ish. Remember to buy enough drives to have 2 full sets of your data. Even if both your copies are hot as opposed to 1 hot 1 cold, backups are important

Take it from someone who lost 56TB of data before
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>>108175947
Lower input lag still
Less tearing if uncapped even if same fps?? I think
Yes there are benefits higher hz even lower fps
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>>108176280
>Take it from someone who lost 56TB of data before
kek. Did you look into having the data recovered?
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>>108175067
Nigga I've been using the same CPU+Motherboard+RAM combo from almost 9 years ago. Yes the upfront spending might be a little high but a desktop PC for games can last for so much time it's irrelevant.
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>>108175949
Yeah, decent deal. You're not going to get a cheaper 5080.
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>>108175067
>PC gaming really is dead and is for insane psychopathic rich chuds who dont really understand how the world works.
pc gaming is unironically the cheapest hobby to max out on the highest tier gear
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>>108176257
Thats zowie , gaming cs division of benq
They are working on OLED monitors too
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>>108176315
the price would have been astronomical for what amounted to rips of my own personal collection. I own a massive physical media library. CDs, DVDs, Blu-ray, 4K blu-ray, VHS, cassette, making .iso backups of PC games I own, etc. I could easily just make yet another set of data from all the physical media I own, but it takes for fucking ever. I was stupid and had hard drives in RAID with no actual backups AND I was stupid enough to use the motherboard's on board RAID capabilities. When the board started to die, I lost access to the array and even when I managed to find a similar motherboard with same chipset, the data was corrupted. Even worse was the array was a hodge podge of different brands and HDD types. Different Cache sizes, etc. I was young, stupid, and arrogant. Surely an HDD or RAID problem could never happen to me!

I learned a harsh lesson
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>>108176280
>>108175903
I'm about to pull the trigger on WD RED Pro as all Golds are sold out from Amazon/Newegg direct and I don't trust 3rd party vendors

I don't have an extra $3k to drop on a NAS that I haven't learned about yet (unraid) or bought an enclosure or where to put it
The one drive at least will be my off-site backup that encompasses ALL my SSDs+1HDD (18tb) so I don't lose any partial data -- I got another 10+8 for weekly backups that I will use until they shit the bed too and just pay thru the nose if it dies too

but holy fuck I hate these companies. Regardless of politics now I think everyone on both sides of the politik aisle are starting to loathe these techbros companies that are leveraging their stocks towards borrowing debt that lets them borrow more for their short term debt. It's all money laundering again like COVID
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when will last year's high end monitor prices drop
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>>108176388
At what point is it just cheaper to pay for google cloud or something?
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>>108176393
You kinda missed it during Xmas. That was their clearance sale.
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>>108176393
Sorry, we bought out all the chips from those, too. :^) the prices will actually go up
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>>108176405
lmao are you an idiot
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>>108176323
>a desktop PC for games can last for so much time it's irrelevant

The problem with consumer grade is that the lifecycle is short. (you) were expected to consoom. Now that /pcbg/ is infested with poorfaggots no one is building shit.

>saving my shekels
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>>108176405
Well, the idea is that your data is private if you host it locally. Even if it's just anime and shit, Google is liable to just rip it all away and ban you on a whim for being copyrighted content. Also, up to a certain point, it's absolutely cheaper. A 6 TB drive that's anywhere from 70-120 bucks will last you 5-15 years. Even at minumum, when compared to Google's 5 tb at 24.99 a month, the local storage is orders of magnitude cheaper. The drive pays for itself after 3 months of non-failure.
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>>108176457
>24.99 a month for 5 tb
Jeeesus fucking Christ. No wonder they want to make everything a subscription.
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>>108176388
it's never enough for a modern company to make a solid product, price it at a price that makes them competitive and still nets them a good profit. All companies need infinite growth at massive margins or the company is shit.
>>108176405
it will always be cheaper up front but it really depends on how much storage you need. 1TB of cloud storage is usually around $100 a year. a 26TB HDD is $450-ish. So 4.5 years, you'll have the cost of a single 26TB HDD. However you control absolutely nothing about the backup. You're at the whim of whatever cloud service you choose and praying their shit is always on point. If something fucks up and they lose or corrupt your data, there is no recourse. And this is just for 1TB. Larger solutions like 10TB for instance cost in the neighborhood of $60+ per month. Nothing wrong with cloud storage for cheap offsite of stuff that's small but important to you. I keep an AES-256 bit encrpyted container in a 15GB Google Drive folder (free) that contains family photos and the like. Stuff that if my entire house burnt down, I can never get back but using cloud storage regularly gets wildly expensive.
>>108176439
>lifecycle is short
Who says that has to be the case? Going from the RTX 5090 to the RTX 6090 to get access to DLSS 4.7.2 to get another 15 blurry fps (+60 unplayable fps with frame gen 1.8!!) means fuck all. I upgrade once every 2 to 3 years and that's only because I can, not because I have to. If someone's PC is still serving their needs, why upgrade for no reason?
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>>108175067
Projecting retard, nobody buys $2000 computers for indie games.
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>>108175849
The bad
>If you're american you should should have boughted the s90d/f instead
>B series literally have the same or better non dimming game mode as C series, also no dithering
>This years C6 77 and 83 will actually have the tandem panels from the g5
>This is the same cost as the b4 77 here, close to b5 77 new
Could be worse
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>>108176393
Sales come and go they already dropped
Far from cheap though
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>>108176488
oh I'm sure there are better panels and whatnot for the price, but I knew the C5 was a solid panel and figured I'd just jump on it. I can return it for another 3 weeks if I hate it
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>>108176471
>if someone's PC is still serving their needs, why upgrade for no reason?
yep i >>108176439 am in agreeance with ya there, anon. My old system sits nearby in deep sleep after 10 years of service. I just can't bring myself to shut the thing off because it would mean it was time to strip it.
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>>108176511
Just decide if you want to spend another $1600 for a 5080 or double that for a 5090
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>>108176467
when cloud storage as your primary storage becomes normalized, I would bet every single thing I hold dear in this world that prices for every cloud service would sky rocket. All cloud service providers would work within an ologopoly. On top of that you'd be paying for the privilege of also having all governements/agencies free access to all your data at all times.
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>>108176527
friend of mine will help me in getting an RTX 5080 FE for $1000. I'll give him $100 for helping me out, so $1100 for a new FE 5080. He unfortunately can't get his hands on a 5090 for MSRP otherwise I'd get it.
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>>108176023
Honestly feels good to see yet another Taiwanese company bend the knee.
People dont realize how much they stagnated monitors.
Once the Koreans actually started paying attention you suddenly got IPS and VA monitors that weren't complete garbage for motion (LG ultragear and samshit g9). Now you have OLED which has completely fucked the pricing for high end monitors. (Used to pay almost 3k for a 4k 120hz screen)
China has now taken over LCDs almost completely and have never been at more rock bottom pricing.
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OLEDs have a cult following. Or paid shills. I can't tell.
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I got one of those cases with a solid side panel and set all the RGB bullshit to black and on-device so I don't have to ever touch it again
why does it cost more shit without lights?
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>>108176546
OLED unironiclly dropped LCD pricing
Yet yall are still mad.
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>>108176546
The best thing OLED did was kill the VA garbage meme
IPS copers should just accept they are mid tier max now and will never be high end ever again
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>>108176547
demand. The norm used to be hardware with no RGB or LED cancer and you paid extra for it. Then everyone started wanting it so the companies responded with every product now offering RGB or shit of some kind. It's not just lights, it's design too. Overly complicated cooler designs, motherboard heatsinks, GPU coolers, fan designs, etc. Don't even get me started on the extra money spent on boxes to make them feel "premium". I would happily get a product with
>plain grey/black rectangular shroud on GPU
>plain heatsinks on motherboards
>No RGB or dumb shit edgy design
>PCB color can be hot pink or shit brown, idc, so long as the performance is top priority
>box is a plain brown box with the companies name and/or logo
etc if it meant the hardware was cheaper by a signifigant amount.

For reference, I have actual legit server hardware that meets this exact description. My server motherboard is considered "budget" and cost me $330 new.
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one tb is cheaper than i thought lmfao this is whad u all are bitching for
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>>108176571

I'm just noticing things, anons.
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>>108176603
displytechfaggots slapfighting is just another day here, anon.
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>>108176591
Why are these people representing themselves as female anime characters?
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one tb of >>>>>>>ram>>108176591 #
is cheaper than i thought lmfao this is whad u all are bitching for
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I'm tired of bikeshedding. It's been months of analysis paralysis. I'm going to bed and tomorrow I'm gonna wake up and buy everything else I want for the next 5 years and be done with it. Fuck newer stuff and fuck the money. I gotta live now.
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>>108176603
I've been noticing things too and OLED objectively has been the best thing to happen to the market, even if you vow to never buy an OLED you are experiencing the lowest prices ever on LCDs.
LG/Samsuckit has gone the volume route and targeted just over a $1k asking price for a high end OLED.
This means for LCDs there is a pretty strict price ceiling when there wasn't one before.
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>>108176622
heres how to get one tb of ram for under two thousand dollars for a hacker dev like yoj
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uhhh wat the fak, this seems like a good deal. I recently ordered a asus tuf 5070ti from amazon that is unopened and still has a march 1 return window. I'm on 32gb of ram and was looking at upgrading ram as I do 3D/cad work but felt it wasn't a good time to buy. should I return the card to get this combo deal? 128gb ram + 5070ti at this price and market sound really good to me unless this gigabyte card is absolutely terrible
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>>108176546
>t. poorfag
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>>108176891
I have a 4k OLED monitor, my dear anon friend.
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>>108176511
It's basic bitch woled though
Should have boughted qd-oled for gaymen
Especially if In USA since the s90df isn't pozzed there in large sizes
But this year Samsung is fixing the s95h one connect box aids but the matte remains so it won't fuck up with PC use as hard
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>>108176904
No, I do
You're a poorfag noticing
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>>108175271
if you invoke cuda compilations some programs code is retarded and cuda is retarded so your system ram will by default, very quickly, hit around 40 gigabytes and over.

to be safe with amazing cuda (by amazing nvidia corporation that also program amazing nvidia drivers for amazing nvidia gpus) and cuda-based code you should have around 100+ gigabytes of ram.

in case you mess with any of that.
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I have a 2070 Super and a Ryzen 7 3700X, playing my games on 1080p.
Since I have 32GB of RAM already, is it a good idea to get something like a 9060XT 16GB while I can still afford one? I just want to keep this thing usable for the next 5 years or so.
I know the CPU might be a bit slow, but I'll figure out a way to get a 5700X or something later.
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What's stopping me buying an IPS panel that is like 6-7 years old?

The ASUS ROG Swift PG279QE

>27 inch
>1440p
>IPS
>G-SYNC
>144hz/165hz

Is 4k really all that better? I am on 1080p so I have no idea how much of a resource hog 4k is,
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was out for a bit. was Celestial released?
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>>108176916
No, you don't. I do.
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>>108176654
>months of analysis paralysis
Perfectly timed to buy at the very peak. Good job.
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>>108176654
>analysis paralysis
Been there, done that, I hate suffering from this so much it's unreal.
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>>108174881
what is happening with 7zip? is it just people downloading from the wrong site or a vulnerability?
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>>108177043
wrong site
7zip dot com is not the real site and distributes a malware version
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>>108177064
there aren't a bunch of pop ups on the official site, is there?also, do i just go to the org site Wikipedia links?
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>>108177064
https://www.7-zip.org/
is this correct? it's what google turns up.
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>>108176929
Either that or a 5070. Personally I'd get the cpu first if you're sticking to 1080p.
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>>108177192
buy a gpu. the best you can manage.

You never regret buying a gpu. Never sell your gpu.
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>>108177192
5070 are double the price of the 9060XT 16GB where I live.
I can probably afford to get both the CPU and the GPU if I sell my 2070S.
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>>108176987
Nothing really, I've been using a 27" 1440 IPS monitor for 8 years now
if you want a bigger screen size you'd have to go to 4k or above though, 1440 at 32" has a low PPI and looks terrible
>I have no idea how much of a resource hog 4k is
it's pretty hard to drive in games for marginal improvements in graphics
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rk6Mph

Find one single flaw. Even TikTok couldn't find one
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>>108177252
I didn't know, sorry. They're about the same in my country so I just assumed. I'd do it personally if selling isn't too much of a pain.
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>>108177269
>random as fuck brand ram
>msi PSU
>asus 5070 ti

id say if youre going MSI for PSU, go MSI for the motherboard and graphics card as well, why trust that brand with your psu/mobo/gpu if you can't trust them for the other 2 components

>t. i have asus strix psu/mobo and gpu
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>>108177269
buying it in 2026
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>>108177304
there's no need to match brands. i have an assrock am5 board, seasonic psu and asus 5090 astral and they work fine
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>>108177304
Pray tell, what synergy is there in having the same brand PSU, motherboard, and GPU?
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>>108177293
No worries, I just checked when you mentioned the 5070 and I wasn't expecting that price gap either. AMD is just unpopular here.
Shouldn't be that difficult to sell the 2070S since people are still looking to build PCs for cheap.
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>Asus PSU
please don't
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>>108177332
>>Asus PSU
>please don't
no such thing as an "asus" psu. they all buy their designs from someone more competent.
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>>108177311
Prices are all going up for at least the next 2 years. Better to get it now than 2028
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>>108177064
certified pc guys install 7zip with chocolatey
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>>108177269
>gay aio
>gay psu
>gay case
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>>108177350
winget is better.
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>>108177319
>>108177318

>hmm i'll trust this brand with my PSU
>oh but fuck no they aren't building my motherboard or gpu

do you not see how stupid you sound
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>>108177369
msi only makes good psus unlike asus
asus started off making mobos and gpus
simple as
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>>108177377
B-b-but the synergy!
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>>108177369
brands are mostly the same in terms of reliability
if you get a better deal on one part theres no reason not to use it rather than follow your retarded brand loyalty policy
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>>108177359
also gay ram.
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>>108177359
>>gay
>>gay
>>gay

>>108177395
>gay

Thank you, anons, for coming out to us today.

>>108177383
>brands are mostly the same in terms of reliability
Except Zotac. Fuck those guys.
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>>108177395
>>108177359
Gay stuff is cheap and it hides under my desk anyway
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>bought corsair psu
>tfw can't make the rest of the computer because they don't make motherboards or gpus
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I'm upgrading my network instead of my PC
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>>108177383
you pay more for a brands reputation, support and warranty.
I've had corsair memory fail and they sent me new sticks. was fairly painless
I've had a car chew through my fan wires, and MSI replaced the exact part for a nominal price, and it wasn't easy explaining that it's the front fan with daisy chain connectors, but they got it right, and we're quick to.
that's all brands come down to.

also, anyone know why my ipv6 address can post on 4chan but if I disable ipv6 or use my other subnet that has ipv6 disabled I can't post due to my IP being flagged as spam?
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>>108177423
hey at least you got some rgb ram and rgb aio to go along with that psu
think of the superflower psu bros
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>>108177430
>car
cat
what happens when you're forced to phone post over ipv6
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>>108177415
when you're a cheater, you know you didn't win.

It's all fake than American fast food.
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>>108177430
>if I disable ipv6 or use my other subnet that has ipv6 disabled I can't post due to my IP being flagged as spam?
Got your IP banned, huh? Maybe nicotroon is your neighbor or something.
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>>108177430
>I've had a car chew
The hell are you driving?

>also, anyone know why my ipv6 address can post on 4chan but if I disable ipv6 or use my other subnet that has ipv6 disabled I can't post due to my IP being flagged as spam?
Pretty sure IPv4 is shared amongst the ISP's customers, and 4chan probably just ranged banned those IPs. IPv6 is more unique.
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>>108177430
I've got the same shit, someone is likely harvesting your IP range since ipv4 IPs are limited and being spread thin. I got harvested by 'ick on 'eck guy, I'm constantly dealing with extremely long captcha sets and "you got banned for [picture of that guy with his dick out"/rangeban shit. It sucks, just stick to IPv6.
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>>108177422
>Gay stuff is cheap
i knew that women are expensive but this goes too far
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>>108177436
kek
>tfw my last psu was adata
I really had nothing then...
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>>108177457
Wait what? How? Are you perhaps neighbours with 'ick on 'eck?
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>>108177453
nah, never been banned. it's not the banned warning either, it's bot related.
>>108177454
it's not cg-nat, unless my ISP changed that in the last 2 weeks... AT&T did buy my fiber internet from lumen recently...
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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3NFmP6/dell-alienware-aw2725df-267-2560-x-1440-360-hz-monitor-aw2725df
Should I just buy this or keep waiting? The only panel currently with the latest Samsung 5th gen qd oled tech is the stupid ultrawide one that msi uses. Apparently Samsung has said they will bring it to different panel types later this year
https://www.techradar.com/pro/samsung-unveils-new-premium-oled-monitor-technology-but-will-tandem-oled-really-make-all-the-difference
And they even mentioned some specific ones like 5k27 but nothing about a normal 1440p 27 which is all I want. The main reason im so hesitant to just buy this Alienware is these older 3rd gen panels have a really fragile coating and get scratches easily, people get micro scratches doing everything properly even with distilled water and a microfiber cloth
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>>108177480
>alienware
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>never been banned
virgin detected
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>>108177304
I lost five neurons reading this
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In the future, telling a woman you own a pc will be enough for her to propose to you.
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>>108177480
I got the alienware and the coating is actually not that fragile. you just have to polish it correctly when it gets dusty or dirty and they include instructions how to do so which most people fail to read. I use water + the wipe it includes and it still looks brand new.
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>>108177377
>msi only makes good psus unlike asus

asus make good PSUs
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>>108177090
Yes
The site that looks created during an older time and less "professional" is the real one.
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>>108177569
and bad ones
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>>108177480
the wife's cat that chewed through my fan cables also scratched my monitors
you can't tell there's a scratch.
also if you're reading this i requested a new IP from my ISP and it worked.
also fuck cats
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>>108175067
No one does that, gaming is a thing you do on the side. So it's cheaper to add 200$ and buy a better card than buying a console and buying separate games.
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>>108175067
I play indie games

but then some shit like helldivers 2 comes out and i want to play on max settings
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>>108175067
$2k every 3 years is not a lot of money in first world countries
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>>108177599
not a lot when you generally need a PC anyway
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>>108177580
>fuck cats
based
>>108177604
I bought a home and the basement, garage and under one cabinet had kid graffiti
single leftist moms create monsters, no joke
also ignorant older leftist renters don't give a shit about mail polish either
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>>108177627
>mail
nail
I hate my phone so much

also, anyone ever use the Amazon "monthly payments" option?
any traps? I can pay in full I just want to make sure the product I buy isn't a lemon (my first >8TB NAS hard drive)
I'm going to sleep on my purchase and hope some asshole doesn't buy the remainder Amazon stock
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>>108177604
QDOLED bros...
https://streamable.com/qp20tm
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>ASUS giving away clair obscur 33 if you bought a motherboard from them in december
>ASUS now giving away resident evil 9 if you buy anything from them now

bought my shit in the last week of january so i get fuck all
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>>108177665
clair sucks ass one of the worst games i played of 2025.
resident evil 9 is unfortunate.
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>>108177665
clair obscur looks like ass wipe. people like that shouldn't make games.
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>>108177639
>any traps?
On what exactly? It's just "pay this amount minimum in six months" type of deal. You don't get penalized for paying it off earlier.
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What's considered a good IPS?
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>>108177685
Neat. Yeah I remember something I had in the past that penalized early payments. Now I rarely have that situation but I took a beating from being a new homeowner and additional health expenses last year so I maximize my deductions on every paycheck for my 401k Roth, HSA, and personal brokerage and just save a sliver now for personal stuff. I blew my small savings of that last year on my PC in early December since everyone here was yelling to buy now or suffer. I'm glad I did. Should've bought more during Black Friday but oh well, hindsight is 20/20.

Guess I'll do the silly payment thing and see what happens with Amazon.
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>>108177707
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/acer-nitro-xv275k-27-4k-uhd-miniled-320hz-1ms-freesync-premium-gaming-monitor-with-hdr1000-usb-type-c-displayport-hdmi-black/JJ8V8HXZ5Q
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With how the game codes work these days, do you need the exact product you bought to redeem it or do you just need a qualifying product?
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>>108177716
if the cost is the same they're just doing it to get people to buy more. it allows more people to buy a product they otherwise can't afford, so it increases sales. if the price is more overall then it's fucking retarded
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>>108177721
See
>>108163019
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>>108177721
Just a qualifying product. You download some app, put in the code, it scans your PC, then it asks to link your steam info and the game gets added to your account.
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>>108177716
Pretty much only big loans like mortgages will do that. I think some car loans will but my last one didn't and I heard it's dying out as most customers prefer a loan without such a restriction. They do that because that's where their profits are coming from, so they try to dissuade you from paying it off early.
Amazon's store card is basically just a credit card. They're already making money from you buying from them. If you end up paying interest then that's just a bonus for them. And the issuer, which I think is Synchrony, probably get profits from the processing fees.
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>>108177736
Okay that's what I thought based on the wording.

>>108177728
It sounds like you could sell the code to someone who might have bought a qualifying AMD product before the promotion. You'll probably need to give them a small discount for it or they'll just get it from Steam if they're going to pay the same price.
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>>108177745
Makes sense. Good post.
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>>108177745
Actually let me reword that. Amazon gets the money from the bank via the credit card, so they obviously don't care. The bank is going to get your payments, since you're basically borrowing from them. But again they get money from processing fees, with the interest being the bonus if it comes to that. And then you may be incentivized to keep using the card, which makes them more profits that way. I'm sure most people end up paying interest at some point. Basically just a different business model.
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https://www.techspot.com/review/3015-amd-radeon-9070-xt-roundup/

is this site trustworthy?
mercury has good benchmarks here but on a different site its the loudest graphics card
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>>108177843
xfx fan curve is just retarded. if you change the fan curve they are quiet. also they go from the junction temp instead of edge temp. so your gpu can sit at 55 or 60°C but your fans are going to be at 60% cus junction temp is 81° or smth.
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>>108177843
I mean, if you're buying a 9070XT, it's kinda pointless to buy a "Good" one, you should just get a 5070Ti or 5080 instead.
The whole value of the 9070XT is that it's cheap.
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>>108177843
I've heard people say it's loud, and others say it runs quite. I have the Mercury myself, but I need everything else so I can't really tell you if my experience is loud or quiet.
If you're looking to buy a 9070xt, just get whatever you like the look of the best and is reasonably priced. I only mostly got the Mercury because I got it from some discount site for $650. Though XFX may not honor their typical warranty on it.
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>>108177843
the one that boosts the highest is the best card and they all have triple pins or 12vhpwr.
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>don't live near microcenter
>newegg only bundles the 9850x3d
suffering
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What's the chance Newegg will do another doorbuster weekend sale? I haven't really been keeping up with them and saw the one last weekend. Is this a weekly thing or just random?
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> a 5070Ti or 5080
The 5080 is a terrible deal. It should have at least 20GB of VRAM to even justify it's existence.
The 5070Ti was a very good deal for under 800 bucks...
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>>108177665
Why don't you torrent? Are you a moralfag?
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>>108177569
> asus make good PSUs
You sure they don't have them made and just stick their logo on them?
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>>108176987
> Is 4k really all that better?
If you get a good 32" display and if you have a 90-class GPU to run it, yes. The step from 1440p to 2160p is costly.
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>>108178395
>32" 4k
Lmao, nice ppi dork
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Why shouldn't I get this?
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>>108178354
I dont trust pirated stuff + its not good to turn off anti malware protection just to play a game like a poorfag. Also I only buy and play stuff I want to support
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>>108178341
What games use more than 16GB of VRAM?
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>>108177665
>bought 9800x3d microcock bundle last month so get fucked on crimson desert code
>bought a 9070xt the day before they announced it but it wasn't from an official vendor so still no code
I know this feeling.
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>>108177665
When I bought my GPU, MSI just gave me $80 of steam credit and told me to buy whatever the fuck I wanted.
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>>108177318
Nice, I just bought the cheap good shit too.
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>>108178442
Thats a shit load of RAM.
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>waiting for the last part to arrive and then its building time
>filled by an overwhelming sense of nervousness and fear that I will fuck something up
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>>108177304
I don't think I'd get another ASUS PSU after they told me no replacements for their highly advertised intelligent voltage sensing cable. They also blocked Germany for now so I couldn't even access BIOS or versions updates right now
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>>108178575
That just makes it better.
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>>108178592
That combo dropped about 12 hours ago. I'm surprised it's still available.
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>>108178442
ram price hasnt increased this past month and is going down son
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>>108178602
It's already close to $2000, even closer depending if you live in a state that charges sales tax even online.

>>108178685
Has it?
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>>108177843
get a hellhound. it's one of the cheaper models with a non retarded fan curve. got dual bios. no lgbt lights. six heat pipes.
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>>108178463
>Bought the 9800x3d bundle last month as well
>Not only did I miss out on the free game, but they also made a bundle with the same MB and ram with a 9850x3d for $50 less than what I had paid
It's not fair.
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>>108174881
>High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
Why no Silent Wings 4 on this list?
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Got myself a half price M27UA 4k 160hz monitor...

I have a Titan Xp. I'm hoping to play a few games on lower resolution, but what are the chances I can run things like say Sekiro, Elden Ring, AC6, on 4k60?
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>>108178929
Oh you bought the 9800x3d when it was bumped up to $749.99? I got it just before they did that. That's definitely fucked up. I tried emailing them about giving me a code but it was a no go. Maybe you can try yourself and see what they say.
I made an effort to get it because I thought "all this shit is going to disappear once everyone gets their tax return back". Apparently I was wrong and my impatience is unrewarded.
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>>108178442
Is this actually a good price? I feel like it's fucked just due to inflated prices. Sure it's good for this current fucked up market, but is it really good in general?
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>>108179002
No I paid the $800 for it since I got the bundle with the MSI x870. Almost immediately after they made that bundle $730 and added the 9850x3d bundle for $750. I got literally raped by Microcenter in a filthy alley.
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>>108179031
>got the bundle with the MSI x870
I should have done that but oh well. But yeah shit sucks, man.
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>>108174881
Does 7-zip make you sign up for an account or do you just download the installer and go? I keep seeing posts about passwords.
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How likely are monitor prices to remain unaffected by the current ongoings and continue to get cheaper in your opinion?
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>>108179318
Posts where? Either way if you're not getting the installer from 7-zip DOT org don't touch it.
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>>108174881
what's a good low profile cpu cooler? doesn't need to cool a jet engine, just a basic 5600. I'm looking to quiet my pc a little.
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>>108179026
If you divide it up in December prices the ram cost $350. So it's not bad for today's standards.
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>>108179437
BQ Rock LP
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INTEL WON OVER 300 FPS

AYYMDEAD LOST
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>>108179464
have Xess
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>>108179444
I went ahead and did some lazy math, mostly looking up the prices for the ram and the "free" nvme you get with it. Regarding their prices when they were they're cheapest last summer, plus the price of the 9850x3d and the mobo, it seemed to line up decently well. A little more expensive, but then if you add the "free" game and air duster, it's pretty close.
Almost considering buying it.
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>>108179472
If I needed more RAM I'd already have bought it. I don't even utilize all of my fast 32gb and have 64gb new in the box just in case. 128gb is shit ton.
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>>108179488
That's pretty much why I haven't done it just yet. If it was 64gb, and cheaper of course, sure. While the price seems fair, I don't know what the hell I'd do with 128gb. Maybe I could just put in one stick and keep the other around in case the first breaks?
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>>108177252
>>5070 are double the price of the 9060XT 16GB where I live.
for good reason it's double better
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>>108177604
Shit kids still care about x-men last x-men cartoon I remember was x-men evolution
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>>108179504
Na, two sticks of fast ram is the way to go. As long as you don't run out fast is what you want.
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>>108179533
>x-men evolution
Still the best Rogue.
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>>108179540
I'm kinda of on board with "unused ram is wasted ram". I'd like some head room, but unless I plan to open 300 tabs in a chromium browser, I don't think I'd ever see 128gb of ram used. Maybe I could run a VM with it.
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>>108177665
capcom have been giving away RE9 with shitloads of stuff, MSI monitors, ASUS crap, I think every 50 series purchase now comes with RE9 too
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>>108179570
LLM and AI faggotry is the only use. I don't even think 4k video editing would soak up that much.
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these guts charts are so funny lol
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>>108179588
In which case wouldn't you want a xx90 series for that? Really finding it hard to justify all that. Could maybe just sell it for the price the ram would have cost last summer.
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People that bought a 5090 for MSRP last year could sell it for double now
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>>108179464
What does this mean for amd? Can we use this?
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Any reason I shouldn't upgrade from B650 to B850?
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>>108179650
what if B950 comes out later this year
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>>108179320
As long as China continues to also make them and undercut competitors
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>>108179320
>waitfags STILL haven't learnt their fucking lesson yet
no anon, don't buy, just wait and enjoy your poverty rig and its poor visuals and performance, you'll get the last laugh this time! surely.
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>>108179726
theres still market realities that affect things differently
samsung invested billions into qd oled manufacturing, its cheaper than woleds and yields are high
monitors dont rely on expensive components from leading edge tsmc fabs
even if jews wanted to make qd oleds expensive theyd have to buy out samsung to do it, or have LG quit their monitor business
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>>108179464
9070 xt is more than twice as fast as b580 in raw perfomance, that means with only 2X FG 9070 XT will have more frames than b580 using 4X FG and half of them will be real unlike pootel with only a 4th.
AMD still wins retarded craptel jeet
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>>108179570
>>108179540
dumb takes. Any kind of computer usage slowly accumulates cached and useless data that sits on the ram, running out of ram makes random programs, games and apps unstable as the time-lag of clearing cached data from your ram to free up space for usage is annoying. Unless you like restarting your pc a couple of times a day when you're having a long session.
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>>108179753
And you think this justifies 128gb of ram because...?
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>>108179753
try using a better operating system
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>>108174881
I have the same case, but my build is gayer
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>>108179863
do you have a fetish for making your own life difficult
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is assembling the motherboard on its own box the safest way to do it?
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>>108179874
Yes you place cpu and nvme in before anything else

Ddr5 ram however im not sure. It takes a lot of force to get it in.
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>>108179753
I've never run or of RAM and I only have 32gb. Photoshop open and a bunch of tabs all day no issue. Games I saw usage go to 20ish once.
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>>108179874
i dunno about safest but it is the easiest
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>>108179894
I found DDR5 easier to put in than DDR4. Then again it depends on the make and model of the board.
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>V-COLOR Manta XSky DDR5 32GB 6400MHz CL32
>Crucial Pro Overclocking 32GB DDR5-6000 CL36
So assume for whatever reason I have these two sets of RAM. Which one would be worthy of keeping? The other would be sold. Unless they both work together, then maybe I could run them both and hope for the best.
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>>108179894
>It takes a lot of force to get in
maaan I'm gonna fucking snap something during assembly...
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>>108179951
well its more like you might not insert it fully and then the pc doesnt boot
so if you have a situation where the ram doesnt want to go in you can try screw the mobo into the case first and it'll give you a solid surface to push against
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>>108179919
Maybe I was just unlucky but I had an absolute bitch of a time getting my DDR5 sticks into my motherboard. I could barely tell when they were in and I kept getting errors because they weren't seated right. DDR4 had such a satisfying sound and feel when putting it in.
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Now I'm scared of when I build my pc.
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>>108179988
It's really not as scary as it seems. Just take your time and don't plug any case fans into the pump plug. Took me ages to learn to not do that.
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>>108179988
>>108179951
The scariest part for me was attaching the heatsink, FUCK those things. I completely underestimated how much force you had to use to push it low enough to where you could begin screwing it into the motherboard, and how much the motherboard felt like it was bending or flexing as it was screwed in.
I'm tempted to go with an AIO on my new build just so I don't have to relive that
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>>108179950
Vcolor if it can run stable just because of specs.
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>>108179726
But I have no reason to upgrade from my BenQ PD2700Q and AOC 24G2ZE/BK.
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>>108180014
Oh this would be my fourth or fifth time. But I suddenly get nervous when things just don't pop in and need a little push to get in. Hopefully the ddr5 ram isn't really that bad.
Oh wait I've never done LGA before. I'm still not sure if I need to get one of those fancy brackets or not.

>>108180031
I don't remember installing the heatsink being so bad, but it has been a while.
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>>108180031
I think for sure I cracked the mb installing mine. RAM was the hardest part of assembly for me, couldn't get them to seat for the life of me. might have been me being a first timer and being worried of breaking something, so I used the velvet gloves
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>>108180031
It depends on the cooler. Decent ones have screws long enough to make it easy.
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it's so fucking over bros....
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>>108180239
Oof.
Try not to take it too hard. You can switch next gen.
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>>108180239
Pull your pants down.
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>>108180035
>if it can run stable
Are you saying I have to test it out first?
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>>108180239
time to install linux to take full advantage of amd's power
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>>108180264
>linux
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>>108180250
there will be no next gen
>>108180251
not yet. it's still daytime here.
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>>108180292
>not yet. it's still daytime here.
Excuses.
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>>108175067
Actually I spent $2000 to run benchmarks
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>>108179988
>>108180031
>>108180058
The heatsink scared me but ended up going just okay
But what scares me the most now was three failed attempts at putting my GPU into my PCIe

MSI has a new "locking" mechanism I didn't understand so I hope I didn't scratch my PCIE contacts for GPU or motherboard as I finally realized you need to have the slot in "locked" position for it to drop in and mount
What a stupid fucking logic I bet I wasn't the only one
I don't think I cracked my card but after some other anon posted their ASUS "quick release" scratches I'm scared, I'm going to unmount it this weekend and take zoom in pics to make sure it's okay

That and the GPU completely blocks my SATA and I need to add one more cable... fuck
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>>108180239
Then why did you get it?
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>>108180433
because the one from xfx was too loud and i didn't want to set the fan curve on every os that i might run on this pc.
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>>108180170
nobody ever talks about screw-length when reviewing coolers so thats a useless qualifying statement.

>>108180459
my biggest gripe with AMD, aside from not supporting older gpus with FSR (i don't care that much because im a natural raster sperg and i don't like upscaling, but its still an objective negative) is that after every driver update, you have to reapply your oc, fan and frame rate target control settings, and some updates change how those settings work so you have to make a new profile.

I gave up any actual OC and just stick to adjusting fan curves (turning off zero rpm mode everytime) but its still annoying. Oh well, i only deal with it every 2 months so whatever, worth it to not be a goyslave to Njudea.
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>>108180358
>>108180358
>>108180358

50% effort you tranime hmong but the rest of the class is failing.
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reminder linux driver updates always guarantee better performance unlike amd windows drivers that never improve anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3pFLK7aIoc
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>>108181117
i am currently on linux and haven't even booted into windows for a long time. on my 5700xt it kept my settings but i never oc'd the card. i just disable hdcp, animations, ads, notifications and other bs. that stuff stays off during driver updates.
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Instead of buying expensive fans, I could buy spare CRTs.
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>>108179726
hey, there was no need to call me out like that...

on a related note, id love to upgrade my 2019 poverty rig (ryzen 2700, rx590) for a more up to date poverty rig.
im looking at ryzen 5600 and keep the same mobo (B450 tomahawk max) and i can't decide on a good poverty GPU to go along with it. Intel Arc B580 12gb seems poverty enough, but i'd love to balance it well with the cpu. im open to any suggestions, bros.
Even the suggestion to WAIT until the CPU/GPU prices are back to where they were 3 fucking months ago...
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
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>>108180239
what seems to be the problem
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>>108181320
nobody cares about your primitive gimmick tech. Nobody misses CRTs except coping boomers.
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>>108182133
>what seems to be the problem

>>108182152
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>>108182133
the problem is, the goyim are waking up! Oy vey, why wont you buy Njudean gpus goy!
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>>108182231
>Nobody misses CRTs except coping boomers
Boomer here. Do not miss CRTs. Retrofags GTFO.



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