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>Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwtit's over linux bros...
Is it just me or are this month's Newegg Doorbuster deals really shitty?
>>108221899>cheapAlso, probably because the brand dykron killed to serve slopcenters, so they're trying to offload all the stock.
>>108221901> pic in OPI still got that Lian Li case in silver but no longer use it.It's a horrible mess in a dusty environment and has abysmal airflow.I wonder what to do with it.
>Nicotroon is goneToday is a good day.
>>108222056It has good air flow I don't know what you're doing wrong. You can have 3x 120 in front but only 1x120 on back and sideI have it reversed as a negative pressure and intake for the backIt has worked for how low power that old DDR3 systems was until I replaced it
I keep trying to my pc parts on amazon but my debit card keeps getting declined. In fact, this happens for any online transaction. Even if it's a $1 game on steam. Card works in person though.And I'm too lazy to get my card fixed. Is this a sign from the universe? Do we live in a simulation? Is money not real?
>>108222340You need to call your bank retard
>finish build>turn it on>case and cpu fans spin at full power>motherboard flashes orange and yellow together>then white>then green>then nothing>case fans stop at this point>no display>try different displayport>video present>but gpu not detected in device manager>but i have no igpu in cpu?>fuck around with ddu and nvcleaninstall>gpu detected>but cpu fan still going full power while case fans refuse to move after boot sequenceWHY? I'M SUCH A FUCKING RETARD WHY DID I DO THIS
>>108222359AMD?
>>108222357im not doing that
looks like when i was 12 and at the local tech store
Are QD-OLED monitors worth the price premium? WOLEDs seem to be "good enough" but idk, use case is mix of programming and media/gaming.
i wish money wasnt real. every time i go to big box stores to look at tech i lose any motivation i had to even buy anything. it feels soulless having to "ask for permission" for someone to unlock something just for me to buy it. it's over.
>>108222359fan hub no powerfan not pluged indidn't do a clean installdidn't wait for windows update to auto install the nvidia drivercpu cooler in aio pump header
>>108221901Is there any fucking way of playing StarCraft brood war on Linux??
>>108222359Have you tried turning it on and off again?
>>108222402Yes, if Wine didn't work, by booting up a Windows VM.
>>108222359msi b650 pro s wifi, ryzen 5 7500f and rtx 4070 ti super. is it the 4070 ti super being weird? the adapter is 3 8 pins but my psu only has 2 real ones so i put the 2 real ones and 1 pigtail 1 in there. no way that's related to the current issue>>108222394but my bottom case fans spin. and the front fans spin when booting but stop in windows. also the cpu cooler is in cpu_fan1 so surely i did it right?>>108222420i did... this must be the usb header pin i broke off haunting me
>>108222446what the cpu temp in bios?
>>10822245439c
>>108222512https://youtu.be/-6BCZeETCv0
>>108222366Were you a meth addict when you were 12?
>>108222369QD-OLED have fringing issues.
>>108222536i fixed the cpu fan. and just changing and saving the fan curve slightly for the fan that wasn't spinning seemingly makes it spin now? sounds quiet now too wtf? you are a god, thank you
What's the max you would pay for a used 5800x3d or 5700x3d?I'm sticking with am4 for the next 5 years at least, so if possible I'd like to get one of these two CPUs
>>108222637Damn every single panel has some issues, what a pain. Maybe I'll stick to IPS given my use case then.
>>108221650Granted not for the HDD mounts per say but i put 6mm noise absorbing foam in my Fractal Torrent compact and it's practically quiet when running on idle (>25% fan speed for all case fans >20% on the NH-D15 fans). When just doing light tasks and or idling both the CPU and GPU are like between 30~40c (5800X+7900XT).
oh and more question, i would appreciate if someone could elucidate this for me: if my card came with a 3x8pin 12vhpwr adapter is it okay to put a daisy chained 8pin in there? my 750w gold psu only has 2 pcie power ports. i have 1 non daisy chained and then 2 8 pins from the daisy chained one to do 3 total.
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/lenovo-and-asus-handheld-owners-warned-as-ryzen-z1-extreme-driver-support-reportedly-ends-lack-of-official-updates-threatens-longevity-for-legion-go-go-s-and-rog-ally-x-devices-on-windows-11And they wonder why no one wants their GPUsI love their AM4/5 CPUs but holy shit just keep paying an intern to keep some shit up to date
>>108222056whats the case name
>think about upgrading my old 3600>none of the alternatives are worth it considering the performance/price gain>think about upgrading my 6700>newegg doesn't ship to my country
Windows 7 won't install NVIDIA drivers. The setup completes but it doesn't work. 660 Ti. How to fix bros? Only error I am getting
>>108223067>none of the alternatives are worth it considering the performance/price gainStart stealing.>newegg doesn't ship to my countryMove countries.
>>108222366costco looks like home depot. right next to the gaming pcs is where they sell the outdoor lights, bbq grills, and gardening shit.
>>108223086That's for the windows thread.>>108222740Yes only one daisy chains should be fineDouble check with YouTube I think this is a common issue with older 2.x ATX PSUs Just make sure all cables are snug in their ports
>>108223137yep, they're snug. everything runs fine. although i think i'm hearing coil whine? it's a really loud high pitched noise that disappears when my game hitches and the fps goes down to like 15 from 140 when something's loading. and if i altf4 it's immediately gone as well. kind of worrying
>>108222369No OLED is worth your precious shekels, no matter if QD or W or whatever, it's all just techslop so far and will rot away faster than you could hustle the shekels for a new one.There doesn't exist even ONE professional display using this slop.
>>108222698> Maybe I'll stick to IPS given my use case then.Yes, it's a mature tech and you don't have to fear any rot.
>>108222874See filename
>>108223247They were so sexy when they came out 20 years agoI still think the airflow is great since you can get mesh front fans btw I will take a pic when I get homeAnd the mesh at the top will help if you go positive pressure (unlike how I made it negative pressure system thus why it's so dusty)Also required some anti vibration foam so the sides don't resonant either
>HDD prices are also increasingI want to get at least a few TB for extra storage before everything spikes massively or is simply unavailable. Scan is almost completely out of stock already, but also only shows WD Blues. Where do UK anons typically go for parts, I haven't bought stuff in years.
How shit is w11 once you've got it fully set up and configured? I hear nothing but complaints about it but I'm sure its only a matter of time before games stop running on 10 like they did on 7 and I don't want to have to go through the hassle of upgrading to 11 years later if I could just bite the bullet on 11 when its freshly built unless its really really badand no I don't know how to use linux and am probably too dumb to learn desu
>>108223443the pipeline is moving to linux after w10 stops getting supported, but it won't until 2032 at least
>>108223443That's a >>>/g/fwtquestion sadlyI still don't like it but you gotta unfuck the taskbar, right click, updates and telemetry at minimum. Win11 is the only one that supports HDR more thoroughly if you care about monitors.
Damn you Newegg. Bring it back!
>>108223549use case for 64gb ddr5 with an 8 core cpu?
And there it is Nova Lake pushed to CES 2027
>>108221901I wish I knew people who build systems like this in real life.
>>108223607lol
>tfw didn't take advantage of the aliexpress sale to buy more accessories and knick-knacks for my HAF 932 Advanced project because I've been delayed for weeks before I could get to determining whether or not I could derivet and fully cleanse the fucking thingKill me.
>>108223623>the aliexpress salewas it like a black friday thing?
>>108223443>I don't know how to use linux and am probably too dumb to learn desuI'm not trying to insult you but you'd probably like windows 11 then, it's literally made for that customer. Actually if all you use the PC for is to pretty much just gaming then Windows 11 works a lot better than 10 at that.
>>108223602Posting to anger the poors.
Under ~20% load my CPU is getting up to 90CI have a 9850X3D, and an AIO cooler. Something is fucked here, right? This is literally a brand new computer.The only thing I can think of is that my thermal paste is bad, or I didn't screw down the AIO heartsink tight enough.
>>108223663What AIO? 120mm? 240mm? 360mm?Which model?
>>108223663Does the 9850X3D do well in bases. I have loads of stutters and fps drops in palworld.
>>108223672>Which model?ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 280
>>108223687Just pop the cooler off and make sure the paste spread evenly. That or just tighten it up.
>>108223629Spring sale, bigger discount than I actually thought because an average of 10% across the board is actually kind of significant when I add up how many little things I would need for this modding project.
>>108223663Feels like you didn't mount the AIO CPU mount correctly, fren. I remember you building the other day. I know you had to remount it once or twice due to the pump head.
>>108223683No idea. I haven't played anything with this new PC yet.And I don't think I want to until I figure out why the CPU is running so hot.
>>108223663way too hotnot installed properly
>>108223549Dude just get any other combo that is just as good, it won't have the Titanium but there are still 6000cl30 Corsairs (Vengeance, etc) that pop up
>>108223663turn that oven off and go remount your AIO cooker
>>108223697Can the pump head being on wrong really effect that much?If I try to turn the pump head around it feels like there is an insane amount of torque on the heatsink.
>>108223687$20 this is the meshify 3 noobie
>>108223663How tight did you screw it down?
>>108223701Why isnt the gpu unshroudedcome on now
>>108223663 >this is the average nu/g/ userDamn. This place is absolutely fucked
>>108223710yeah that doesn't matter if this is still on it
>>108223710Is your pump running? What rpm do you have it set to?
>>108223730I know for a fact that's not still on it.
are there any components that have a higher potential to be damaged during shipping and should be bought locally if possible?
>>108223710Read the manualEvenly screw both sides a little at a timeI have a feel you're mounted unevenly or you did not apply paste well or the likePlease watch a few videossince the Liquid Freezer III is so popular, consider watching a HowTo/Install video pleaseMonkey see monkey doDon't worry, we all fuck up, I am not not the exception
>>108223750According to Libra Hardware monitor it is, you can see it here >>108223663I am also 100% sure I plugged in the 4 volt pin that said "pump".
>>108223758Its basically 50-50 for me getting a case dented on arrivalbut thats also like the part least likely to be in stock locally
>>108223759>>108223730Well, I think I have a guess as why it's not cooling correctly. No clue how this happened. Because I distinctly remember tightening both screws when I mounted the AIO. And even did the method where you alternate back and forth which screw you tighten.
>>108223805its also upside down
>>108223270A huge case almost completely made from aluminum. Unimaginable luxury today.
>>108223805Damn. I'm not even sure what I'm looking at? Looks all types of fucked.
>>108223705Not as good of a deal.
>>108223237Another fucking IPS monitor here we go...
>>108223823And I actually own two1 of 2this shows that I can put two additional fans in front by using the official 5" adapter>>108222056not when you do this
>>108223805Anon you should have stuck with air coolers, AIOs might be too complicated for you.
>>108223823>>108223846other in storageSoon I'll Frankenstein my old build and put in new fans after dusting and ripping out the old one's DC fan controller bc the current active one has a dead leftmost controller probably shorted out due to static electricity years agothe LEDs are so bright that's why there's a post itI keep meaning to use hobby paint to paint over the LEDs as I don't feel comfortable soldering
>>108223819I'm not fixing that. The hose is too stiff.And it shouldn't make a difference is cooling.I rather have it upside down than the hoses having an insane amount of torque in them.>>108223824You're looking at the AIO heatsink on an angle because one of the screws isn't in correctly.
>>108223830Then wait forever, 2x told ya. Or go for the 96GB Vengeance. Theres zero reason to hold out for the Titanium versions.
>>108223863Forgot pic fuck
>>108223848I know you're trying to sound smart. But the same exact issue would and could have happened with an air cooler. It's literally just that the screw didn't thread correctly and fell out.
>>108223871It will come back.
>>108223848Air coolers don't necessarily have easier mounting mechanisms. I remember that I had problems with some. But my ALFreezers always got installed almost by themselves.
>tfw my 4080 super is starting to artifactCleaned drivers multiple times, tried different driver versions, DP cables, etc. Happens in cs2, ghost of tsushima, and also even in chrome. Either purple squares or rgb pixels flashing randomly. Underclocking doesn't help. But it doesn't do it all the time. Is my card dying? msi ventus oc whateverthefuck. Everything runs great otherwise.
>>108223892EOL
>>108223892Temps? Repaste?
>>108223881>>108223874The only air cooler I concede being unnecessarily complicated is the Hyper 212, specifically the older variants (212X, 212 Evo, etc), the 212 black is fine, sort of. But most air coolers on the market practically install themselves and are almost retard proof. I hate pic related like you wouldn't believe.
Yeah, that was the problem. Now at over 25% CPU load it's only getting up to 60C.Honestly no idea how that screw didn't get threaded correctly. I'm going to redo the thermal paste just to make sure. But these temps are way better.
>>108223909Max of 63 at full load. That was my fist thought. This cooler is c h o n k. I just upgraded my mobo and cpu a couple weeks ago, but it did it then too.
>>108223892Have you tried deleting all mentally ill frog shit images off your PC?Could help.
>>108223926Bios flash? Do you have a dual bios card? Hot spot?
>>108223934That's one of three that I have. The others basically sum up my life, which is why I don't want my video card to die. Does anyone have experience with MSIs RMA process? I can't be without one, and no spare card as I put my 1080ti in my gfs pc.
>>108223953Single bios as far as I know. I could try flashing it I guess, but I don't want to screw up the warranty. No thermal camera :( I was reading that the vram is what fails on these, so if it was overheating in one spot it would make sense. Stupid ass evga why did you have to stop making cards.I suppose I could just sell it and buy a 5080 lmao. stupid pricing though.
>>108223970You should have a junction/hotspot temp. Look at your memory temp. If your delta is high just repaste and try again. So you have no switch for a second bios?
>>108223981No switch unless it is very well hidden. I'll check out the temp thing, thank you.
>>108223990What exact card do you have?
>>108223892>Cleaned drivers multiple times, tried different driver versions, DP cables, etc. Happens in cs2, ghost of tsushima, and also even in chrome. Either purple squares or rgb pixels flashing randomly. Underclocking doesn't help. But it doesn't do it all the time. Is my card dying? msi ventus oc whateverthefuck. Everything runs great otherwiseTry resocketing the graphics card. My cousin's PC had the same issue until I found out the GPU was sagging and the pci copper plates weren't properly seated.
>>108221966just let me torrent this movie and subtitles anon..
>>108222369Yes absolutely and you're insane if you listen to the /pcbg/ poorfags on their $200 2018 1080p/1440p IPS/VA gaming garbage and buy an IPS panel in 2026
>>108223683To answer your question. No, I am not getting any stuttering in my base.Playing at 4k and my CPU is under 11% load and running at 45C to 55C.
>>108224020Maybe I should upgrade. You have a 9850x3D?
>>108224003MSI Gaming RTX 4080 Super 16G Ventus 3X OC>>108224008I did multiple times during new motherboard install, also I have a sag bracket.
My 3060Ti started artifacting and might be dying, gpu prices are fucked now. My choices now are between a 5060 and 9060XT 8gb. Which one should i get?The 16gb model of 9060xt is out of the question since it costs an additional $150, which is just retarded
>>108224030Yeah, I got it on one the Newegg Doorbuster deals days.From what I've read the 9800X3D can preform just as well as the 9850X3D.https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-7-9850x3d-pbo-overclock-testingSomething about the 9850X3D not being able to overclock as well or something.But I got the 9850X3D for cheaper than than 9800X3D, so I got that.
>>108223687Well, it's a cheap 280mm cooler and a CPU that notoriously runs pretty hot.Benchmarks put it like 15C hotter than the 9800X3D. Either way, it's kinda a non-issue if you're not thermal throttling.
>>108224079Is it really that bad? Gamer Nexus had as like the 5th or 6th best cooler, and all the ones over it were only 1 or 2 degrees cooler (but cost over 200$ more).
>>108224089I wouldn't put a lot of faith in Gamer Nexus benchmarks, desu.But, it's not a bad cooler or anything. It's just average. It's cheap, and that's pretty good.But the 9850X3D just runs kinda hot.
>>108224102Who's bench marks should I trust?
>>108224102What exactly is "PBO" and how do it turn it on?
>>108224064Nice. I may just wait for a decent deal.
Why do I like seeing the insides of PCs so much?
>>108224217Autism.I bet you like trains, too.
>>108223892>ventus
>>108224261I generally only buy asus/evga but they were all like a million dollars and I wanted a card. I even financed it.
Am I cooked chat? I'm probably the first person to check on this thermal paste in 25 yearsmotherboard wasnt turning on but i think it may actually be the CPU at fault in this case, even if the giant capacitors are still a red flag
never bought from newegg before but they're a pretty reputable site right? Not the types to try and slip refurbished or used products in as new and shit like that?GPU is the most costly piece I'm kind of paranoid to buy one online. I can save like 50 bucks but idk if its worth the risk
Best performing 140mm case exhoost fan for a noise dampened build? SW4 high speed? T30-140? P14 Pro? NF-A14 G2? Acoustics are paramount.
Thoughts on figures in cases/
Which works better with shit ass windows 10 AMD or Intel CPU? I don't want to use windows 11.
>>108224304The fuck is this, an old ass Sempron or Athlon XP? Fuck I didn't even remember Sempron was the label of entry level AMD stuff before Ahtlon got relegated to that position during the FX era.
>>108224315noctua anything>>108224330gay weeb shit>>108224336either
>>108224345Well I ask because e-cores are supposed to work better with W11.
>>108224304Ah, this photo brings me back...https://youtu.be/Xf0VuRG7MN4>20 years agoWTF????
i miss when GPUs had one fan and fit in the palm of my hand
>>108224342Athlon XPCapacitors are busted in almost all these old boards but i think in this case even the CPU is fuckedIs there any chance that a motherboard with bulging capacitors still works?
Got a 2tb WD Red Plus from Micro Center, the last one they had that wasn't 12tb. I want to hold onto it for when my current HDD dies, but I know you're supposed to use HDDs for a while to make sure it's on the "if it doesn't die from this in the first month/year, it'll last forever" curve. How long should I use it/what can I do to test it for those early-showing flaws?
>>108224428Solder on new capacitors, do not bother
>>108221901Riddle me this. My old PSU started to get a bit flakey under load with the GPU over clocked, especially when the 4070tis would hit some of those spikes at 400w for a split second.I have upgraded the PSU to one with a zero RM mode, and I did remove the rear case fans.Over all thermals seem to have improved on the vrm and the CPU by 4-5c despite not changing the cooler fan or redoing the heatsink. I find it hard to believe that nonrear fans flows better than dual 80mm fans at 2000rpm.Even my ram modules under load seem to run a degree or two cooler. I'm confused.
>>108224261>VentusI hate GPUs with no PCB stiffening
>6 sold, 6 available >add to cart>go pick out an enclosure to buy>come back>out of stockIt's ooverThis was probably the last 12tb ultrastar ever at this price
>>108224015>>108223237The duality of /g/
>>108222402you don't even need to be a 1337 hacker to game on Linux anymore. I play it on my Steam Deck [spoiler]remastered launcher, but I didn't buy the remaster, and docked ofc for kb&m[/spoiler].you just add to Steam, and then it just works. sometimes you have to manually set Proton.
>>108224015my black friday deal $120 ASUS VG248QE 1080p 144hz TN is the best display I've ever owned, and it still works over a decade later.never buying OLED.
"kek"
>>108224603go back to vee
>>108224681valve is doing all the work for them on linux too.
>>108224681Why do people buy AMD again?
>>108224700Because coping is addictive
what are these blue cables people with lots of hard drives use
>>108224762They are breakout cables that have 2 or 4 Sata/ SAS drives from a single SAS board connector on a HBA.
Hello sirs I have an old pc combo thats been lying around for a couple of years since I upgraded and im wondering what I can get for it in the current pc component climate. Specs are MSI z97 gaming 5 motherboard E3-1245 v3 (xeon version of the i7 4790 with slightly lower clocks)4x4Gb DDR3 corsair vengeance 1600mhz CL9 (I think its CL9)Hyper 212 evo cooler
>>108224457could be a learning experiencecan a regular soldering iron desolder the old ones
>>108223443I only use w11 for work and when family needs techsupport, it fucking sucks and I'm glad 10 drove me into Linux's loving embrace. Learn or die anon, Windows isn't getting better.
>>108224029Yes, they work. I posted pics a few threads ago. They work on the case, but they will not work on radiators.>>108183621This is the first one I went back a few threads to find. Im about to fold in for the night. Can post some pics maybe later.Im using the SAV4 so it has a flush front -bc these go right in front of a filter.
>>108222359why bother with fireplace fan as you can whole pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XjOeFkvN7A>core 2 quad videos are back on the 'logah yes recession indicator #8,477,385
>RAM prices starting to fallWaitsisters, we wonned. DoomSISSIES lost.
>>108224971well I dont see how thats sustained as the ram makes literally went to make AI memory at the expense of the ddr5 consumer memorytheres going to be a perpetual lack of supply for years
how do i go upon searching for low-power GPUs to use inside a prebuilt?im asking before i check the PSU wattage but i know it has no PCIEi just need something to handle Video/H264/AV1 rather than the weak iGPU on an intel
>>1082249935070 is pretty energy efficient
>oled monitors actually have worse motion blur than 360 hz TN Panels with good strobing>TN Panels are fucking dogshit>IPS Panels even with good dimming zones still have horrible haloing and bad black levels>Tandem OLED has a HORRIBLE panel lottery with respect to banding, dirty screen effect>4th gen QD-OLED still has horrible fringing medium pixel densities solely because microsoft is fucking lazy. They also have purple blacks if you're not in a goon cave>they'll also scratch permanently if you look at them wrong>5th gen QD-OLED has "rgb stripe" tech and better screen hardness incoming but the only monitor in the pipeline right now is an ultrawide>ALL OLEDS HAVE HORIBLE VRR FLICKERFUCK MONITORS FUCK OLED FUCK IPS FUCKING HELLThere are no good monitors. Mediatek sucks ass
>>108225034I dont see the point of listing potential flawsyou have a budget, you have a use case and theres the best available monitor you can buyno need to cry
>>108224993for a GPU that is solely powered by the 75w budget of the PCIe slot, you can look at something like the Intel Arc A310 or the Sparkle ELF Arc A380. There's also a 6GB RTX 3050 that exists that doesn't require extra power. The Arc 310 can handle AV1. The Arc 310 specifically is one of the best GPUs for media use currently on the market especially given its power use.
>>108225044my use case is I want a monitor with OLED's color depth that >doesn't have VRR flicker>has better motion tracking than an esports 1080p panel from 2022>doesn't dim to nothing during bright scenes>won't burn in after doing office work on it all daythere are a fuck ton of flaws with OLED, to the point that Pulsar is a viable alternative despite being attached to "inferior" panels. I like the way it looks, I want it to be better. In a lot of ways, it feels like the middle days of plasma adoption except it'll likely succeed instead of being beaten to shit by awful LCD tech.
>>108225089yeah so half of your requirements ask for non-oled featuresthere is ips minileds that have modern ips pixel response timespulsar is perfectly reasonable option since the clarity advantage is realalso if you need perfect blacks for movies or gaming you can buy an oled nothing stops you from owning 2 monitors
>>108224924>>108223638>>108223456I guess its less an issue with not being able to learn linux, realistically I could probably figure it out.It just sounds like a bother. I have some friends that use linux and the amount of horseshit they seem to deal with because X game doesn't run on linux and they have to constantly reboot from different drives depending on what game we're playing, or dealing with crashes and other nonsense.If linux was truly 100% supported for gaming I'd probably have tried to get into it already (and honestly I probably will before long)
>>108224993you're going to want something like a 5050 for this.but you should also consider replacing the PSU and just buying a decent budget GPU like a 60 class from either vendor. in my only prebuilt the PSU was the only thing to fail. they tend to be among the cheapest components of the system from what I researched.
>>108225034pulsar solves motion blur on vrr if that's something you care about.I just wish TN wasn't a 1080p esports branded panel.
>>108225146the only thing you can't play on Linux is some games that have anti-cheats that don't let you, like Riot's games.but thankfully Valve has the originals (CS and DotA), and they are supported natively on Linux.
>>108225089>has better motion tracking than an esports 1080p panel from 2022TN panels from 2010 have better motion clarity than modern IPS.
>>108225196Come on now, I remember those screens and they were all dogshit garbage compared to my current IPS display.
>>108225213I went back to 1080p TN from 4k IPS.IPS is burry all the time and is either too dark or too bright and looks like shit 90% of the time.TN only looks like shit when I look at it from not my chair.they're both 144hz 1ms.
Are AIOs a meme or was I just unlucky?I got Silent Loop 3, and considering just the volume it certainly is silent.But the pump makes this weak, yes, silent, yet ever-present, and to me, annoying hum, which I could always hear in the background when browsing or watching videos etc. Yes, even when setting the pump to like 30% only.Maybe I'm just sensitive to whatever frequency the hum was.Anyway, swiched to a Noctua air cooler and nothing bothers me.
>>108225563You just have tinnitus.
>>108225590Unfortunately no. I used Fan Control to check the fans etc. and confirmed its was pump. And that the hum disappears when I turn off the PC.
>>108225563I cant get into water cooling for this reason. I cant stand the impeller noise when new, and after a few years when you start getting air infiltration and gurgling, it just drives me insane
>>108225563Is this true? I've been wanting to swap out my nhd15 for an aio, but I have sound autism.
>>108225636they shouldn't make noise
>>108225630Silent Loop 3 has a screw on the radiator which you can unscrew and top it off. They give you a small extra bottle of the coolant for it. This was a plus for the AIO, but the sound did me in.>>108225636Im interested in others experiences, but for me yes. I couldnt stand the pump sound.Switched to NH-D15 G2 specifically and I'm happy.
Can you still undervolt with B850? What can't you do with it that X870 can that is relevant?
What was your first time using SSDs like?
>>108225656My C14S has been solid though, tossed a gentle typhoon on it, and its been fantastic for my r9 5900XT. It might cost as much as a cheap water cooler, but Ill take it every time.
>>108225667What like a 32mb thumb drive or the 128gb laptop ssd?
>>108225667Pretty good. I bought a 120gb on sale for either $100 or somewhat above. This was when they were creeping into the consumer market and HDDs were still the norm., and when you expected to wait a few minutes to boot into Windows. With the SSD, it booted up much faster.
>>108225681At this point I'm a Noctua guy. Had some of their fans in a previous PC and was happy too.Appearently they'll release AIOs later this year. I wonder if they'll manage to make the pump itself silent, but I'm not gonna bother finding out.
>>108225667I just remember the first time I built a PC my friend was helping me since I didn't know anything. So I put my OS on a 256MB sata SSD and it was hardcore to someone who didn't even know what an SSD was. It had moving parts and had to be bolted down to the case. Then they were commonplace on my build after that, and I got a couple 1TB sata SSDs for that buildAnd now after living under a pc building rock for almost a decade and working on a new one, sata is apparently obsolete caveman technology and nvme is the new sex
>>108225667win10 install media was old and fujitsu-siemens pixxabox downloaded whole new system is like entry level kingston sata-ssd
>>108225706so funny thing, I hate their fans. The NF9, NF9x14, NF12x14, NF12x25, NF14 all have a high pitched electrical whine at 40% pwm OR over 8V. Tried em multiple times and cannot stand them - I just give away their fans when I use their heatsinks. Us arctic F9C0, Nidec GT2150 PWM, or Arctic P14Max instead as applicable for size. Despite the minor whirring from the ball bearings I find them much more pleasant.
>>108225563They're not silent but at some point this idea got passed around as an accepted truth. Everybody's setup and hearing is different so it's hard to quantify.
>>108225667It was a revelation.Around 2015 I switched from a seagate 5900RPM drive to a 240GB Kingston Fury sata driveWas like $90 at the time which seemed like a deal.Still have it and it's in my router as boot media. 52k hours and going
I hate noise, what psu/case/cooler/fans should I get? Here is what I am looking at rn:>Shadow base 800 case>420mm quiet loop 3 aio>5x silent wings 140mm pwm>dark power 14 psu
>>108225792*420mm silent loop 3 aiomy bad im retarded
>>108225667While I had a few salvage laptops that had lite-on SSD's, from the factory they were really crappy and slow, often not any better than their hard drive counter parts.When I finally upgraded my personal laptop to a SSD when the MX100 released, it was pretty amazing. I was really worried about drive longevity, but it worked as a primary boot drive for years, and is still alive and kicking.
>>108225760You tried G2s?I was already fine with the original NF A12x25s and am fine with all G2s now, but G2s are supposed to be more "pleasant sounding". >>108225792>>108225796Talk about timing >>108225563
>>108225079thankswill have to check eBay and other markets as the 3050 is $150-200 used which is absolutely silly>>108225168eh I just need literally something a step above iGPU so I can upscale reasonably on a HDTV it's an HP prebuilt I got for free from work and barely has any use on it though it might've been left on for a year on idle... The NVME was a WD black 510(?) that only has 8TBW I'm going to use it as a ddl/ streaming PC -- spent $35 for a wireless Logitech HTPC kbm and 15ft HDMI cablejust need the GPU and swapping out a fan for a quieter Noctua and it's a great free HTPC until I build a NAS once HDD get back in stock, I'm pissed the AI bullshit now is affecting HDD once I was ready to finally build one, guess I'll just save up for next yearI just hope all the good pirate websites don't go down until I build the NAS
>>108225803Nope. I'm not paying 44 dollars for a 14cm fan when a 9 dollar arctic fan matches it within a few DB for the same performance, or in the case of the 12x25... I'm not paying double the price of a nidec GT for the exact same performance.
>>108225792>Shadow base 800 caseBASED
>>108225819Fair.
I really need to make a compilation of people eating their words about Arctic fans like that anon did about Thermalright heatsinks lollmaoenjoy your pitch above 55%
>>108225667it made windows 7 even faster. went all ssd shortly after that.
>>108225844better than the noctua's coil whine above 40% to my ear *shrugs* Different noises and pitches are more irritating to some people than others.
>finally started ordering>building soonanxious, but also excited
>9850x3d and 32gb ram bundle from newegg(650)>gigabyte aorus b850 mobo from amazon(160-190)Thoughts?
>>108225890seems normalI got the aorus mobo and I dislike how up the top pcie slot is which leaves little room for cpu cooler or your fingers when you try to hit the gpu removal lever
>>108225844What are you even talking about?
>>108225900That does seem annoying but none of these boards can be perfect. You like it otherwise I take?Wait, does that make it hard to use one of those supporters for the GPU?
>>108225922> You like it otherwise I take?eh, theres this heatsink for 3 nvme and Id honestly prefer if you could access them individually. It was annoying to slot back in during installationthe windows software utility seems to work as expectedtheres a bios thing where they list voltages with like 6 zeroes and it confused me
2tb Kingston KC3000 are still like 250 bux + or -. how is that bad?
>>108225931No other issues with it at least?
>>108225970its kinda lame the wifi module isnt an antenna directly sticking out from the mobo and its this separate thing that sits on the floor
>>108225980Sounds like you're very dissatisfied with this board.
>>108225844>implying I set them above 35%
I guess I did ask "no other issues".
>Get all of the bare minimum components to boot up my new build>Buying an entire setup so I need a desk>Have skipped waiting for an SSD and just going to throw my old gen 3 or whatever ssd in for the time beingI should just be waiting, I already waited this long buying the GPU jan 31st, but knowing I could literally boot up right now is tempting, i should wait for my new desk first though.
>>108225991I rec flexispot standing desksgood for herniated disks on your back
Is usb-c dp mode fine or should I avoid it if I want to be able to use display port on the iGPU for whatever reason?
>>108225999Yeah they're actually what I am looking at, but I want to put a desktonic walnut top on a flexispot frame.I could theoretically just drill in some manual height adjustable legs to a custom wood top too, it seems fairly straightforward
>>108226006its fine if you have a good cable
>>108226006my monitor has a built in KVM, and it supports USB-C display, but I think it occupies the same lanes as one of the DP ports, anyways.it's very convenient, when I want to dock my Steam Deck I just plug it into the USB-C, and it does power video audio and peripherals all in a single cable. and it has a regular USB cable that runs to my desktop so the peripherals can go to it.but I think USB-C is more a feature for mobile devices, like laptops.
>>108221967They are pretty lame. Bring back the $400 9850x3d! I will be keeping an eye on that seagate external for some extra cold storage space though.
>>108226104Will a usb-c to dp work just fine with any regular dp port?>>108226114>my monitor has a built in KVMWhich one? Mine does too, but I don't remember if it does usb-c dp alt mode. I've also just been looking to get a new one.>but I think USB-C is more a feature for mobile devices, like laptops.I can see this, but I just wanted to be able to use dp over hdmi if I have to use the iGPU for any reason. The mobo I'm looking at has the usb-c with dp alt mode instead of just regular dp.
>>108226129acer xv282k but I think they've done a refresh since I bought it.I do not recommend this monitor. I hate everything other than the convenience of docking the Steam Deck. but maybe you're not an esports gamer and you would enjoy it.
Is MSi and Gigabyte really the only "safe" options right now for motherboards?
>>108226172there is a less than normal failure rate of AMD CPUs if that's what you're worried about.
>>108226172they're all safe.
>>108226180>>108226186>t. assrock pr reps
How shit is this? AMD Ryzen 7 8700F NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 32GB ddr5. Don't care about 4k or 1440p memes, so would the 5060 be decent?
>>108226227The 8700F is a laptop cpu. I don't know much about the 5060, I'm not into nvidia
>>108226172If you can stomach the higher price of Asus that's what is probably the best since they historically have the best quality bios and they learned their lesson early with burnt 7800x3d cpus.
>>108226243Is the cpu "overheating and dying after one year of use" bad?
>>108221907>my 6800XT is not even listed anymoreooftime to upgrade my gpu
I've just ordered pic related what am I in for
>>108226172There is also Sapphire, Colorful, Biostar, Maxsun, Jginyue, and few other smaller ones.
>>108226294better amd graphics than series X even
>>108226301I dont know what series X is, I always was an intel and nvidia fanboy but i upgraded from a 6700k to a 9900x and im amazedI still use a RTX2080 kek it was good enough for 4k 60hz i';ve used it for 6 years almost but some games it struggles with ultra so now i've upgraded to this 9070xt, i hope it arrives today
>>108226306kinda rare for a guy with premium nvidia gpu to go to amd next
>>108226172asus only seemed like an outlier in failures because they sell more boardsstatistics is hard for people to understand
>>108226315>2080>premium
How important is it to update bios on a newly built PCI'm afraid of losing power even if its a 1/1000 chance
>>108226325700$ msrp
>>108226325circa 2018 yes
>>108226330It's essential
>>108226330yeah you should updatejust use the mobo brand specific windows tools that does it for you
>>108226330the chances of something going wrong because you didn't update the bios are much higher than something going wrong because you did update the bios
>>108226330Get a UPS. Also that's what bios flashback is for which I'm pretty sure all these motherboards have now.
>>108226293>meanwhile I'm still rocking my gtx1060
>>108226315Yeah I made the switch because its better value >>108226325>>108226331>>108226336I think I got mine in 2019 but yeah it was almost 700it still holds up amazingly well for 4k @60hz well over 6 years later, but yeah I gotta turn down graphic settings a lot so it's time for upgradeIts a big boy 16gb ram and 3x8pin much better than a more expensive 12gb nvidia card with the weird house fire connector
>newegg has the 9850x3d tomahawk x870 bundle again>said I was gonna jump on it>still hesitating
>>108226158Not an esport player but I'll still avoid it.
>>108226356I thought the 12gb card was the only reasonably priced nvidia oneId say the housefire connector is much cleaner looking than 8pin let alone 3
PCs are just loud in general. How the fuck can my sensitive man ears cope with coil whine?
>>108226366Brother, same. What don't you like about it? Price or parts? Or are you like me and hesitating because there have been better bundles recently and you're worried about missing them if they come back?
>>108226415>Id say the housefire connector is much cleaner looking than 8pin let alone 3disagree, its looking thin, fragile3x8pin is much nicer, of course i already bought the 3x8pin sleeved extensions a while ago (pic is not mine but from pc part picker but mine will also look like this)
3x8pin sleeved cables are superior over the fucking nvidia housefire connector it's for real man, strong, thick, juicy
>>108226478>What don't you like about it?Wouldn't say I dislike it, just hesitant on the board. Seems like people have issues with it, but then again I can't find people who don't have an issue with any other board. And you have to choose between the back usb-c ports and an nvme slot. Price seems decent enough, could be cheaper.>better bundlesThere have been some pretty good bundles I have missed out on, but I'm kinda capped at $1k anyway. Some of those good bundles I've seen were well above $1k. Though if those bundles that came with 128gb of RAM came with a 9900x3d or 9950x3d I would have just done it regardless. I really don't get why 99% of all the Newegg bundles are all focused on the 9850x3d. I know it's the new hotness, but surely there's demand for the other CPUs as well. They must have gotten the 9850x3d at a pretty good price and the markup is higher than the rest of the line.I might have jumped on this one as well, >>108223549 , but I missed it. This and some of the others I've seen I felt like were either accidents or just really needing to get sales numbers up at the first of the month and now that they got them they're just giving more mundane bundles. If you can hold out longer you might see what March holds, but I have a perfect timing window to build later this week so I don't really want to miss it.
>>108225667It really did feel like the future going from an HDD boot drive to a SATA.
>>108226294A pretty good graphics card. I have one and it works perfectly fine, especially for the price I paid.
With the current GPU prices, should I sell my 3060 Ti and try to survive on my old RX 470? 4GB of VRAM is gonna hurt, especially at 1440p but I mainly play older games.
>>108226645Yeah it was 600 a while ago, but recently they were 760 almost.. But now they had discount for 669 so I bit the bullet and just went with it figured I wasn't gonna see 600 ever againI got lucky with my ram though, I bought it last year for 130 and now its more than 500
>>108226653Unless you really need an extra $200, I'd say just keep the 3060.>>108226667>I bought it last year for 130 and now its more than 500That is lucky. Wish I didn't take so long to finish my AM5 build so I could've gotten 64gb of ram before it cost an arm and a leg.
>>108226711Yeah i guess I should consider myself lucky. I could have gotten my 9070xt for 600 but 669 is the next best thing, really shouldn't complain especially if I got my ram for 130 and not for 500+ kek
>>108223892Did you find out the cause of the artifacting, and were you able to fix it?My 3060ti is also artifacting
>>108224700reddit gold and stockholm syndrome
What's the best place to sell parts I bought but no longer want? Is this Jawa place any good? I would like to use FB marketplace, but then I'd have to make an account and then deal with retards trying to undercut me. I wouldn't have to worry about reporting it on my taxes at least.
>ram at 6400MHz 32-39-39-102>ram at 6000MHz 36-38-38-80The latter is actually better, right? Given the timings.
>>108226861my guess latter be 9% slower but does not matter look what MHz processor spec say
>>108226903So MHz matters the most when it comes to ram specs?
>>108226172doesnt asus have like 50-70% marketshare in the mobo space
>>108226911there are physical dimensions for each memory type
>>108226861>>108226911the first kit is better because the relative latency is lower
>>108226959>>108226962Ok makes sense. Thanks.
>>108226920anon please look mindfactory stats msi strong in krautland
>>108226978i mean, they're the biggest jew sympathizers
>have asus tuf 650e-e mobo>been thinking of getting msi mag tomahawk x870Is there really any reason why I shouldn't? I mostly want the extra ports and all.
>>108226978What kind of retard still buys from Mindfactory
>>108226810Haven't personally made any trades there yet, but I've recently started browsing r/hardwareswap, and it seems like a good place to find potential buyers.
>>108226172You don't hear about intel cpus dying on assrocked mobos. It's AMD selling all the trash silicon that didn't make the cut for epyc. The beancounters and tranny su decided that it's cheper to RMA their trash than admiting fault like intel and offering cash refund and extended warranty on top of bad press. You have to consider that AMD is a multibillion garage startup and can't afford such things.
>>108225881Good luck, bro!
>>108227001most trades are done below market price and you get downvoted if you try asking for a fair price as a seller
>>108226172considering that ASUS have thoroughly earned the number 1 spot in my tech corp blacklist, yeah.On another note. As a overkill-PSU advocate and proud, this was an interesting video, do EVGA still make PSU's? i don't see any of their products on my usual countries pc stores/websites anymore.Which is a shame as they have one of the best reputations in the pc industry...https://youtu.be/Dy_kg_CH53E?si=BL8JLgDNSdjBk_5G
Is this monitor alright for 80 euro brand new?>25'' ASRock Challenger CL25FFB, 1920x1080, IPS, 144 HzI want to upgrade my lil bro from a shitty 60 Hz TN monitor to something decent.His PC has a 1660S (gifted him my old PC), but even that GPU is handicapped by an ugly 60Hz screen in the types of games he wants to play.I'll try to get a decent deal on a 3060 12GB or 5060 8GB this summer for his birthday, but that's not here nor now.
>>108227032i thought he was testing small (in size) not small (in watts) psus
>>108227045well, if you watch the video, thats not the case, although the vast majority of 650w psu's are hardly large now are they?
>>108226993pls respond
>>108226993seems like a waste of money unless you need that specific board for something that your current one doesn't do
>>108224261Fentus
>>108225667>Get 512gb sad>boot times go from like 1 and a half minutes to 10 seconds logged inBlew my mind
>>108224954>tfw my laptop is weaker than a c2d
>>108223892very likely one of your vram chips have gone badits fixable if you send it to a 3rd party repair shop, if its out of warranty
>>108227089thanks
In hindsight, buying a 2TB SSD for $250 in December wasn't such a bad idea.
>>108227124>its fixable if you send it to a 3rd party repair shop, if its out of warrantyOne has to wonder if they will run out of memory chips now
>>108227182>Bought a 2tb nvme for $170.>Thought it was ridiculous but I needed an ssd for games since my only other ssd was my boot drive.Boy am I glad I didn't hesitate like I normally do. Honestly wish I had gone for a 4tb one instead, but oh well. Hopefully this one will last me until prices come down to a relatively sane level.
>>108227203>>108227182anon who bought a 4TB Samsung 990pro gen4 m.2 here. It was worth every fucking penny and i have like 60+ games on steam installed on it no problem.If you didn't build your dream rig when you had the money, between ~december 2024 and ~march2025, you're a fucking retard imo. Waitcucks btfo for all time.
>>108226993youre used to emy latest is mATX and its too smallcurrymans say get h series i like b x is fully loaded
>>108227218how I sleep knowing the PC I built for 1.4k euro last August now costs 2k+++ euro even though he CPU and GPU are the same price or maginally (20-30 euro) lower.
>>108227182same story for me with ram, dropped about 300$ for 96GB last year in january, was kicking myself because i felt i spent too much money into this pc , but that same ram now is selling for 1100$
>>108227218As a europoor, I at best could get a 2TB SATA SSD that might not have even had any DRAM by that point for all I know. Yet I still didn't buy despite knowing all my 500GB SSDs are from 2019 at the most recent.
>>108227273DRAMless 2TB SSD was like $180, DRAMful was $280ish I think. I really fucked up in hindsight not getting an SSD because I was worried about cost-benefit.
>>108227249literally no one are going to pay you 5,2k€ monthly for working with it or am i mistaken
>>108227273but anon in sata ssd there is no speed advantage in bigger drives after 512GB
>>108227295idk what you mean by that, it's my personal rig for gayming and casual AI sloppa
>>108226294The worst sku of a fairly mediocre GPU.Great if you got it for less than $600.Unfortunately ASUS prime is the combination of shitty business practices and cheap manufacturing.
>>108227317NVME drives were even more expensive by that point
>>108226249Personally Asus is the last brand I would buy a motherboard from because of how hard they push Armoury Crate. It is in its very BIOS and once you install Windows it's going to start popping up "Dear customer, sir, please do redeem Armoury Crate installation".Since I use Linux such knocks on my door would stay unanswered and I won't see the pop ups, but the bloatware still remains there. I heard you can disable the pop ups in the BIOS, but even if it won't bother me I couldn't live with the knowledge that my hardware is bloated, the feel of impurity of my system won't let me use it normally.
>>108227388>>108227345I have Asus B850F and never had problemsMy previous GPU was also Asus and was greatAsus is a high tier brand up there with Gigabyte and MSI
>Good morning, I regret to inform you that the product you ordered was the last one we had in stock, and it turned out to be damaged, so it is not eligible for shipment. A new product will be sent to the address provided after it is delivered from the supplier within 2-5 days as a new order number. We will keep you informed about the status of your order in subsequent emails. I sincerely apologize for this situation.You know what, I'll take this as a sign saying I should work on my case before buying new fans. Or maybe this is warning me about the quality control of Silent Wings 4 fans, at least the high-speed ones.You know what I'm really hoping for right now? That there won't be a supply shortage German-designed fans somehow.
>>108227388There is a flag in bios for either armory crate or driver hub depending on what your motherboard has. Something like driver hub nearly every brand implemented at this point from what I remember.
>>108227407>NF-A20's now unavailable and out of stock when I could have already bought 3 for 160 eachARE YOU KIDDING ME? First the aliexpress sale and shit, now this? WHY do I constantly have to weigh "BUY NOW, THE MORE YOU BUY THE MORE YOU SAVE, AND HURRY UP!" before I know if I'll actually need something? This is horseshit.
>>108227447>That picdamn, been years since I last saw gaming fansthey still popular now?
>>108225667I don't remember it being anything special but this was windows vista or 7 probablyBut when I bought an old desktop and thought "meh I don't need an ssd the hdd in here will be fine". Boy was that a mistake. That shit took like 80 minutes to install windows 10. And it was dogshit slow everywhere. I went and bought an ssd that same day lol.
>>108227444So I heard, but unless it says "Delete the bloatware and never download it again" I'm not interested.
>>108227538It's not downloaded automatically. At least I got a popup that asks if I wanted too and only with the flag being on.
What is the best adjustable GPU support stand I can get off Aliexpress?
>>108227393ASUS are a certified scumbag corp with dogshit, predatory warranty systems and don't support some of their most expensive products with local repairs. Some of their products are great, but pray to god you never have a defective product from them.And for the love of god, never ever ever EVER buy their gamer phones or handhelds.youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY?si=CAlWEfz_fq9suMzD
>>108227444the driver bloatware from gigabyte and MSI is nowhere near as toxic and hard to purge from your system as ASUS's malware.>MSI: MSI centre = bloatware>Gigabyte: Gigabyte control centre = bloatware>Asus: Armory Crate = malwareyou will never convince me otherwise.
>>108227670their laptops and motherboards and graphics cards are fine
>>1082276253D print one (jk)it's not rocket science so just get a cheap one that looks solid and is big enough. Personally I'd trust the ones like pic related more than the ones with a head that screws up and down, I have a feeling that the latter would lower over time unless they have a locking mechanism
Could I install a pc case fan in my kitchen and bathroom vents so they suck air into the chimney?
>>108227689Armory Crate and Driver Hub are two different things. My Asus x870e board only tries to install driver hub if not disabled in the BIOS. Idk if they only ship armory crate with some budget shit but given that they bloated it to like 3gb at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they don't ship it at all anymore.
>>108227746my z490 and z790 asus boards com with armoury crate. maybe only the newest stuff has driver hub?
>>108227738sure but the grease would fuck 'em up eventually
>>108227752Might be I don't know when they did the cut. Despite driver hub being barebone and much less offensive than armory crate it was in the news last year as well as Asus fucked up some security checks though the bug was never abused. I also remember it suggesting things that weren't for my exact hardware. I uninstalled it and turned it off in the bios and it hasn't bothered me ever since. I only got to remember that the BIOS is reset on update but since I uninstalled it already once it doesn't seem to ask anymore
>>108227746Armoury crate was shipped with basically every b550 and x570 board including the 600 dollar pro art creator boards, essentially hiding the option to install it deeply in the efi UI. Unless you knew to look for it, it would keep reinstalling silently on every reboot on windows 10 installed in EFI mode. Newer motherboards have changed this behaviour because of the backlash for essentially shipping malware.That said if you tick the option off in the bios it won't ever prompt you again, and it's one of the few settings that will survive a bios flash and won't nag you again just because you updated.
>>108225667I remember upgrading my laptop (a T420 which i still own), brothers desktop, and my old desktop to 240gig Kingston SSD's circa 2015. While at first cautious about long term reliability the performance was quite noticeable, and the drive in that T420 is still going strong.
>>108227691>Some of their products are great, but pray to god you never have a defective product from them.you're a fucking retard to even say that and fail to address this exact sentence. A tech company with a dogshit, predatory warranty system like ASUS, is a BAD COMPANY, and you're a moron if you know this and buy from them anyway, and you're a piece of shit, retarded shill, if you advocate for their products when you know this.Stop posting here, you're as bad an influence as the blatant brandwar shills.
>>108225667>samsung 120gb, 120 dollars, 2012>still runs in my brother's pcPretty good.
>8GB isn't enough>12GB isn't enough>vast majority of steam users have 8GB or less>steam box is launching with only 8GB itselfhow important actually is VRAM?
>>108228395Windows is trash.8GB is also enough. techtubers are out of touch.
>>108228395if you want to play on anything past 1080poverty monitors, and you want to be able to just buy and play something in the next 4+ years and have it run okay, instead of crying on 5+ different forums and this general, its important to get at least 16gigs yes.Are you a nigger who is incapable of future planning? then get a steam box, then buy a whole new pc in 3+ years when a must-play game comes out like the good goyim retard you are. Are you a white man with a functioning brain? then get a proper gpu.
>>108228395Very important for photorealistic AAAslop with loads of never-reused high fidelity assets and an army of Indian contractors who can't budget memory to save their lives. Not so important for good video games.
>>108228395vram seems to be entirely dependent on texture resolution, if you play in 1080p 8gb is enough. If you play on 1440p you can get by with 8, but you will notice the struggling on higher end games and they will max out your vram usage.
>>108228395>>108228439to elaborate further.a friend with a 1060-3GB can't launch some games, but my Steam Deck can with 8GB total system RAM. it also delivers a playable experience, as a 15W mobile device.
>>108228395Vast majority of Steam users are at 1080p as far as I remember and play Counter Strike/Dota/PUBG at minimal settings, 8GB might be okay for them.
>>108228439bitter, poor turd worlder.>>108228442pic rel
>>108227388this is on all motherboards now. you just need to go in the BIOS and disable settings.don't tell me you build a PC but hate tinkering with settings?
>>108226397my biggest grievance is that 4k shouldn't be on monitors this small. so I guess I'm a bit of a heretic.
>>108228395VRAM is important only because the pajeets making new games have never even heard of the word "optimization", so new games with 1/10 of the graphical fidelty and details of RDR2 end up somehow eating up 3-4x the resources. Thankfully these games are almost always worthless slop so you can kinda ignore the issue for now
>>108228480I ain't readin' all that shit.you're an enthusiast coping about wasting money to have more pixels in your cyberpunk raytracing goon session instead of just watching an onlyfans leak.
>>108228448>>108228497as somebody going through a computer science degree currently, they teach a lot of c++ and they tell you that worrying about optimization is a legacy feature that has been deprecated because hardware today is so powerful that you don't need to worry about it. so the portions on memory management are very minimal.
>>108228483My Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 doesn't have any of this crap, Asrock probably didn't develop ArmouryCrate-like bloatware in the first place. Other manufacturers that have something like Driver Hub can possibly push additional bloatware when you install drivers, but I believe you can install only drivers and uncheck the rest without any problem. And only Asus has bloat in BIOS, pushing ArmouryCrate from there.
>>108228498>m-my piece of shit 2060 and my 60hz, 1080poverty monitor delivers a perfectly fine gaming experience!>what you mean i can't play palworld or any UE5 games? all UE5 games are automatically bad, thats what my bitterness tells me!
>>108228395depends on your goals
>>1082285478GB total system RAM can run the game.
>>108228505I can't wait for the bloating of software to outpace the improvement of hardware
>>108228577I think we're already there. all the talk about datacenters and the lack of power available, people are going to start optimizing to save power.
>>108228577we reached that a long time ago especially with all the electron junk everywhere
>>108228505Yeah that stuff needs to be self-taught if you don't go into specific fields like embedded software or systems programming. Modern college is all about providing corporate donors with the kind of workers they want and most tech companies want cheap software rather than good software.
Should I under volt and overclock my new 5070Ti?Are there any draw backs at all to doing this?From what I've read it makes it run cooler and get better FPS.
>>108228395If you don't know it yet you probably don't need to worry anyway.
You could have an rtx 5090 or 5 minutes of first base with Kona-chan. Choose wisely.
>>108228686if you wantdrawbacks are time consumed and lower stability
>prebuilts are significantly cheaper than diy stillIt's never been more over.
>>108228708Judy is ugly as fuck.
>>108228708this is what people are spending $9,000 for?
>>108228698>lower stabilityWhat exactly does that mean. I'm kind of retarded.Basically there's a chance it will blue screen your PC and you have to reboot? Is that all?
>>108228740>I'm kind of retardeddon't undervolt then, jus tweak settings in your nvidia app.
>>108228740blue screens, game crashes, graphical artifacting
>>108228765And that's caused by the GPU not getting enough power due to the undervolt, right? So basically you just need to find the right balance.
>>108228737No people build $9000 machines to buy it on steam sale then never touch it to continue doomscrolling
>>108228708>Built myself a solid rig>Find out that Microcenter was selling something way better for only around $500 more. Maybe I should've just been a cuck and bought a prebuilt.
>>108228729disagree>>108228737yeah>>108228772nah i just go back to playing the classics
>>108227670Before they started their "ROG" branding and went full pretentious piece of arrogant shit they were down to Earth just made qt hardware. It's a shame. Just recently I had to buy MSI again just because I shied away from that annoying "ROG" image.
New bread since no one bakingIgnore the previous link I messed upNo good pics on my phone except my PC I was building last month sorry>>108228961>>108228961
>>108226998they got the cheapest prices and let you return your gpu no questions asked for like two months.
>>108229054> they got the cheapest pricesNope. That was before they got into trouble with their finances. They are now at least as expensive as others. Their SSDs and HDDs are even significantly cheaper elsewhere.
>>108229172didn't know that. still they are first or second usually even if it is not by much.
>>108228737WHAT ARE YOU POOR?
>>108223663It's fucked. That's what happens when you buy AMD.