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I boughted an ASUS ap303 case online.
Intend to use it with a Noctua NH-D15G2 cooler, full suite of Noctua fans.
9800x3d, Sapphire Nitro 9070xt.

Seems like a match?
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I'm wondering right now how effective 2x120mm bottom intake only with 1 140mm exhaust would do in a silence focused build with solid pci covers, front intake and side mesh aside. Especially if the HDD area is partially sectioned off and dampened. Top would be closed off with the PSU moved up to make room for the extra 120mm on the bottom.
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>>108321736
Also the bottom and side fan mounts give me the option for some meme upwards airflow setup but I doubt those were ever proven effective.
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ATX case
Had the 9 standoff things pre-installed in the A positions for my board
Only one of them (the middle one) looked like a proper standoff (slightly taller with cylindrical) the rest were smaller or a bit different than the middle one. In the case box there were only about 2-3 extra standoffs like this included so I doubt they intend to put them in all 9.

Is this normal and everything is pre-installed properly to mount the motherboard in the case? I don't want to short the board if I should be putting in more standoffs.
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>>108322341
>buys top tier cpu
>gets shitty mobo
why bro, at least get an x670E ffs, dont you care about good m2 speeds?
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>>108322361
>>buys top tier cpu
>>gets shitty mobo
I cucked myself once like that. OC was unstable, rendering videos made my mobo and cpu so hot it froze. It kinda made me wary of smaller than atx mobos.

dont cheap out on the mobo
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Should I buy a Blu Ray drive for $165 with an extra 3 year protection plan included?
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>>108322633
If only for the peace of mind of having one, even if I do not have almost any BDs laying around that is. It is why I didn't buy an ASUS one when I probably should have.
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Display question.
I'm trying to make a switch to 1440p.
I found the model in sticky(KTC M27T6) for around $300 which is a miniled.
And I also stumbled upon Samsung Odyssey G5 S27FG500SUX which is a QD-OLED, the price is $400.
I don't mind spending the extra 100 if it's gonna be that much better,
I would like to get an advice for this.
TLDR
1440p
KTC M27T6 (miniLED) vs Samsung Odyssey G5 S27FG500SUX(QD-OLED)
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>>108322633
>$165 for obsolete meme tech
wtf? seriously wtf? it should cost 50, max.
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Should I buy 32GB 3200MHz DDR4 CL20 Laptop Memory Single Stick SODIMM RAM for $240 or is too costly?
I'm planning to buy on 12 month installments btw
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>>108322788
>$240
>12 months installments
if you can't afford to buy that without credit, you shouldn't buy it at all
t. actual first worlder
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>>108322639
I'd go with the KTC, less finicky than OLED.
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>>108321771
the middle one is there for assisting in the placement of the mainboard and in most cases not removable
just look at how many holes your mainboard has and use that many screws (probably minus one because of the middle standoff that doesn't require one)
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>>108322361
Wth? You don't need an x670e board for a 60-100w cpu
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>>108322788
>$240
>12 month credit
for what purpose? if you're having to put $240 on a 1 year credit you're not going to be able to afford actual components
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>>108322633
>>108322638
I'm considering buying a 5.25 inch blu-ray drive for my pc just so I can start burning things for archival purposes.
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Need some advice for a new monitor. I have the AOC Gaming CQ27G2U/BK 27" but it's giving me some issues, I have to turn it off and on until it works,
so I am looking for a new one since it's kind of old. The one in the sticky (KTC M27T6) costs 270€ and looks good, but I am very used to a curved monitor,
and I was wondering if there is one with similar characteristics, but curved. I don't mind going up to 400€.
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>>108322747
>>108322841
Production ended 2-3 years ago
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>>108322811
>>108322839
tell me if it's a good deal or bad deal, I can pay it all at once but I'd rather not
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>>108322924
It is what it is
The only thing I have to say is that buying single channel memory is dumb
Better to get a kit of 2x16gb instead, or double down and get 2x32gb
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I HATE PROPRIETARY HARD DRIVE CAGE RAILS
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What will I get less bottleneck with my 5900x? A 5070ti or a 9070xt?
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>>108322938
>or double down and get 2x32gb
I will
one at a time
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>>108322962
9070 xt
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>>108322976
then don't buy it given you're a poorfag, buying two single channels is dumb
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>>108322788
are you doing the adapter shenanigans? if yes then it's really finicky depending on your entire setup from the motherboard down to the power supply
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>>108322988
>buying two single channels is dumb
but I have two slots and I can install them one after another, no?
>>108323009
>are you doing the adapter shenanigans
no
everyone says it'll be okay for my laptop motherboard btw
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>>108323015
ok. it's expensive and if you can't afford it outright OR you don't really need it OR make money back from it (ie. via work from this laptop) then it's not a good investment considering the low resalability of laptop sodimm
but if you do buy it then it will last you the next few years and you can transplant it into a new laptop. monthly instalments on RAM isn't that crazy considering that this will be unavailable at the current price until 2030
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>>108322788
>32GB 3200MHz DDR4 CL20
>Laptop Memory Single Stick
>$240
??????????????????????????
wtf is happening out there?
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>>108323029
>>108323015
to give you perspective on how expensive this is, i can buy a single stick of 4gb 2666mhz ram used on ebay for $10USD
at high ram numbers you're getting totally fleeced, but it's consensual on your end if you're still considering it
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>>108321120
Fucking Iran war now I can't get my screen
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>>108322962
9070 xt, works great
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>>108323087
shouldnt have voted for the orange pedo and his zionist masters
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>>108323106
I'm from jewland
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>>108322886
>Production ended 2-3 years ago
Do you have any advice on what i should do with my empty 5.25 drive bays?
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>>108322962
1080p? 9070 XT, 5070 TI? just use super resolution to play at 4k even on your 1440p monitor and then use dlss 4.5 performance preset L, CPU matter less at that resolution
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>new nvidia driver has less CPU overhead
https://wccftech.com/user-reports-noticeable-performance-uplifts-with-the-latest-nvidia-hotfix-driver-595-76/

its over...
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>>108323106
>he thinks voting ""correctly"" will solve the problem
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>selling his 32gb ram for $95
what's the fucking catch?!

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/1ro5i0v/usasc_h_ram_32gb_ddr5_6800mts_expo_cl34_white_w/
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>>108323225
Might be just a guy who has some dignity in this doggy-dog eat doggy-dog world.
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>>108323237
If you're selling stuff for below market value then you're just giving scalpers free money (unless you're selling to a dude you personally know)
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>>108323248
True. If the guy is legitimate then I hope he's going to trying and vet buyers. He's definitely going to get scammers.
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Almost to the finish line but of all things I can't get the GPU to seat. Its clearly lined up with the pcie slot, the latch on the right of the slot even closes when I push it in. But it very clearly doesn't feel all the way in, and I can't push it any further. The metal part that goes on the outside of the case is about 5mm or so higher than it needs to be to screw it in.
But I don't know what part of the GPU is getting stuck while trying to push it the rest of the way, or on what
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>>108322886
I thought lg still makes them?
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>>108321120
>MSI PRO B850M-A

good for 7800x3d / 9800x3d ?
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>>108323280
stupid question but is the tab on the backplate going in properly? that's usually what gets caught when I'm trying to seat a PCIe card
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>>108323326
I don't think so, I'm not really sure what its even supposed to do. None of the videos I watched even mentioned the backplate at all, and just emphasized lining up the pcie slot and pushing straight in so I don't know if there's a technique to try and get the backplate lined up first or what.

I did some googling after 20 or so minutes of trying and it said the tab/teeth part of that backplate are supposed to go between the motherboard and the case. I don't know if there's just not enough room (some things said loosen the mobo screws and slide it even just a mm or two to the right) or if I'm just not lining it up right.

There's also an awkward triangle thing affixed to my motherboard I'm worried might be catching on a nub in my gpu's top left corner but idk if that's it
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>>108323280
What case are you using?
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>>108323383
Corsair Frame 4000D
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150 grit sandpaper gets chewed up faster than Pirelli tires here. Stripping globally may not be feasible.
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>>108323390
Well you should have no problems getting a GPU aligned with a Corsair case, you need to send us a photo of the card being 5mm lower than the PCI-E slots, try to look at where the slot tab ends are going into the case, pic related.

As long as the tab of the card goes into that slot, and the card is in the pci-e slot, you should be safe to just screw the card in place, they do have a sag/wobble until you secure them in place.
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>>108323375
I've never thought too much about it either and I've ended up getting it jammed against something too
The tab is meant to go between the case and the motherboard, and there's supposed to be some slot in the case for that tab to fit in, so I guess that if the motherboard is too tight you can't get it in
Try taking one of the blank back plates and see if you can insert it by itself, that'll at least show you if you can or if it's getting stuck somewhere
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>have Meshify 3 case
>have a 280 AIO
>have thermal grizzly paste
>three front intake fans
>one exhaust fan next to the CPU
Is there anything else I can do to improve my thermal levels?
At 90% load my CPU sits around 80C.
At 100% load my GPU is around 58C.
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>>108323498
No
Do you expect your CPU to be safe to touch even at 100% boost or something?
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>>108323400
what are you even trying to achieve
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>>108323498
>At 90% load my CPU sits around 80C.
my fully custom watercooled build with a 480 front rad and 360 top rad has the CPU sitting at like 75c under heavy load, they just get hot
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>>108323536
>Do you expect your CPU to be safe to touch even at 100% boost or something?
Yes.
But more so, I want as little heat on the parts as possible so they last longer.
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Can someone answer quickly please, I can get a Legion Pro 5 with a RTX507, a R9 and 32G RAM. With a 1To SSD for 2K€.
Is it worth it? With a mouse and a headset. Everything completely brand new.
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>>108323498
First off, those are pretty good temps.

Regarding the CPU: What cpu do you have, what core frequencies, max wattage, and per-core voltages do you have set.
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>>108323498
Open loop and delided cpu.
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>>108323550
why would you want a laptop
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>>108323549
then you need to delid
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>>108323400
dont make the mistake i made of buying cheap chink sandpaper from amazon, they must use shitty glue because they lose all their grit after like 10 minutes of use compared to actual branded sandpaper
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>>108323550
Yes, 2,000 € for a Lenovo Legion Pro 5 (Gen 10, AMD version) with RTX 5070, Ryzen 9 (likely 9955HX or similar high-end like 8945HX/9955HX), 32 GB RAM, and 1 TB SSD is a solid deal right now—actually on the good-to-very-good side depending on the exact retailer and any current promotions.
From recent listings (mostly UK/EU pricing around early 2026):

- Similar configs (Ryzen 9 + RTX 5070 + 32 GB + 1 TB) are showing up around £1,900 (roughly 2,200–2,300 € depending on exchange/VAT), with some at £1,899–£2,099 (about 2,200–2,450 €).
- In euros, equivalent high-spec RTX 5070 laptops often start closer to 2,200–2,500 € at launch/MSRP, especially with Ryzen 9 and good screens (like 240 Hz or OLED options common on these).
- Lower configs (e.g., RTX 5060 versions) dip under €2,000, but the RTX 5070 + Ryzen 9 combo you're describing is premium-tier for the Pro 5 lineup and rarely hits exactly 2k € unless on sale or from a competitive shop.

This spec crushes modern gaming at high settings (1440p/ high refresh easily, great ray tracing/DLSS 4 support thanks to the 50-series), handles heavy productivity/creation work thanks to the Ryzen 9 + 32 GB RAM, and the Legion Pro 5 series has excellent build quality, cooling, keyboard, and upgradeability (easy RAM/SSD swaps).
If it's from a reputable seller (Lenovo direct, Amazon, MediaMarkt, Alternate, FNAC, etc.) with warranty and it's indeed the full-fat RTX 5070 (8 GB GDDR7, high TGP), go for it—it's competitive and not overpriced at 2k €. Prices for these 2025/2026 models are still settling after launch, so this could be a promo or regional pricing win.
If you share the exact model number or shop link, I can double-check if it's a steal or just average!
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make sure to report indians
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>>108323555
For work unfortunately
>>108323562
I need a human opinion but thanks.
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>>108323553
>What cpu do you have
9850X3D.

>what core frequencies, max wattage, and per-core voltages do you have set.
No clue. But I followed a guide to under clock it by a curve of -25.


>>108323554
>>108323558
>delided
This seems way, way too complex for me to do myself.
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>>108323571
a small price for your autistic fix
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>>108323584
You could buy a whole new PC for that price.
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>>108323435
>>108323450
I left it last night and came back to it this morning. I might have just been tired af before but that entire section of the back of the case is removable, so after taking it off it was a lot more clear where the GPU prongs went and I could install it a lot more easily before putting the backplate on

The GPU inputs still seem a little high on the opening but they're fully accessible, and everything with the screns and pcie lined up in a way that made sense to screw it in.

Does everything here look good for a first boot?
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>>108323550
Best advice I can give is look at the original msrp of it. If it's at least several hundred off the currency then it's probably an okay deal. But if you're not sure if you should blow the money on it I probably wouldn't. You have to consider what games you plan to play on it as well.
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>>108323584
>>108323554
>>108323558
Are there any reliable services that will do the delid process for you?
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>>108323563
found one
>>108323618
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>>108323623
I would never trust an Indian to touch my CPU.
I want an AMERCIAN to do it.
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>>108322829
>not filling all your nvme slots with top speed nvme drives + 2nd gpu slot
what the fuck are you doing? why are you here? do you even AI? gently fuck off back to gaia to discuss with the kids playing games, thanks
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>>108323550
Laptop CPU’s and gpu’s are power limited to reduce overheating but still require loud fans. The specs are tempting but it shouldn’t be compared to a desktop. Think of the cpu and gpu and as “junior” versions of the desktop components. Do not compare a laptop to a desktop, you’ll just be disappointed. It should be fine for 1080p gaming though.
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https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-red-pro-wd260kfgx-26tb-enterprise-nas-hard-drives-7200-rpm/p/N82E16822234582?Item=9SIA2W0KGS5465

Should I?
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>>108322924
>i don't have to pay interest
>but i would prefer to
what the actual fuck
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>>108322788
I got 128GB for that money a few months ago looooooooooooooooooooool
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Before I start to try and do this "delid" nonsense, is it even worth it?
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>>108323803
Not really. 80c is what CPU run at now days. Sometimes you cant even run a regular cooler with a delid due to different height.
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>>108323600
yolo'd it, got a post
thanks bros
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>>108323821
What if I'm aiming for not just the CPU to last longer, but for the fans to be quieter?

>Sometimes you cant even run a regular cooler with a delid due to different height.
I thought you glue the lid back on after you apply the liquid metal?
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>>108323862
Just buy a quieter fan in the first place
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>>108323862
Ok I thought you wanted to run the bare die.
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>>108323127
card readers?
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>>108323127
you can buy a usb hub or >>108323879
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>>108323870
Ideally you'd do both, no?

>>108323873
Is bare die how people do it for even more cooling?
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>>108323916
The quieter fan will do all the work. Having lower temps won't make it quieter as long as it doesn't hit TJMAX.
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>>108323560
>they lose all their grit after like 10 minutes of use
Seems to be the case with whatever the hell this sandpaper from Leroy Merlin I used today that was laying around compared to the sandpaper from yesterday that was made here, despite both being 150 grit the black one wore out almost immediately. I'll buy the next batch myself next time.

More sisyphus work for the weekend.
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>>108323916
Yea it's the most efficient way. Just like a GPU does.
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>>108323546
Matte sanding on all non-mesh surfaces, stripping on meshes. I would just cut the mesh but not yet. Gets rid of any remaining odors and will be ready to prime soon.
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>>108323938
I used 3M sandpaper and it was night and day, could sand an entire wood project I was working on before needing to change it
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>>108323939
The rabbit hole goes really deep, huh?
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>>108323946
wire wheel that shit
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>>108323975
or heck, get a csd and 10$ angle grinder
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yeah, I'm thinking I'm gonna wait
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>>108323686
It's not even that I want a gaming laptop, it's for work (which is mostly coding stuff) but I'm a gamedev and do some 3D work as my hobbies so I was thinking of getting something like this. Also in case I wanted to play some games, etc.
I already have a desktop PC that does the job. But since it's been a long time since I checked what came out in the laptop world, I wanted to know if I was getting a good price.
>>108323601
I checked it it's around 2k only for the laptop but the offer includes pic related.
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>>108323949
I'll look if we have any available here if I run out of these Dexter/Norton sheets.
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>>108322639
First rule of oled club, never buy miniled
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>>108323127
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=5.25+bay+accessories
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Perfection.
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>>108322361
the cpu is only top tier in performance and not in power draw.
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>>108323715
No you didn't. I got 64GB DDR5 for that.
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>>108322361
the mobo market is one big scam. most people dont need more than b650e.
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>you want a 5090?
>get a new PSU
>get a wireview pro 2
>get a RAM fan
>get a heat detection PSU
>get an AIO liquid cooler for your CPU

isn't that a lot?
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>>108324130
>finally commit to modding the old cigarette raped chassis
>listing for a mint dark base 900 goes up for a hundred bucks
FUCK ME
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Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved
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>>108324314
Can you redo this list but add in OS?
I need the list to contain every version of Linux as well.
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Is there, by any chance, some model of Logitech wireless mouse THAT DOES NOT SLEEP?
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What are you all doing with your cpu that necessitates an AIO instead of a single tower, single fan air cooler?
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>>108324314
>radeon
LMAO'd
thanks for the laugh
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>>108324368
ffmpeg encoding webmemes
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>>108324368
5090 turning the case into an oven
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it's really not a good time to buy used components, every thing is a scam rn
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>>108324543
dont worry, you can still buy amd gpus for cheap
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>>108324543
I did my part and sold some relatively fairly priced RAM kits I had laying around.
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>>108324238
you dont need both a wireview pro and a current detecting psu really, one or the other is enough, and no one has made a modern RAM fan in the current year despite DDR5 running hot as fuck
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>>108324314
>Radeon

Yeah who cares about DLSS and frame gen and ray tracing
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>>108324725
Genuinely who cares?
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>>108324729
I don't know but the whole concept of buying your own PC and people saying "lol you made the wrong decision" is stupid as fuck.

Let people just have fun.
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>>108324729
90 percent of the PC market apparently.
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>>108324833
90% buy prebuilds tho
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>>108324737
literally every interest and hobby is like this
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>>108321120
Is there any application where amd gpus have better performances than nVidia ones?
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I have a retarded question anons. Right now I'm using a Ryzen 5700G for everything because I don't have time for gaming. I have a RX 7600 I don't use because I think it would be a waste of electricity right now... But I have read here before that I can install the GPU and connect my monitor to the APU and I will be able to use the GPU when needed. How does that work, do I need to do something to make it work or it's an automatic thing?
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>>108324725
FSR 4.1 > DLSS 4.5
FSR ML FG > DLSS FG
FSR Ray Regeneration > DLSS Ray Reconstruction
FSR Radiance Caching > RTX Neural Radiance Cache
Crimson Desert > RE9 Requiem
Nvidiot cope below
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>>108324844
Are you implying there are no AMD prebuilts?
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>>108324946
VRAM and Raster>everything else. Figure out who won that battle.
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>>108324961
>Raster
7900 XTX on Linux is faster than 5090 on windows at that and is more than 2k cheaper
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>>108324946
LLMs + Diffusion with nvidia > anything on jeeteon
SADLY
I had my hope on arc but the cards fucking SUCK.
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>>108323033
You vill use zhe cloud terminal
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>>108323400
Man, maybe invest in a sand blaster booth or something.
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>>108324945
The RX 7600 is probably the most efficient GPU that exists, it would only use something like 3-6W in idle. Also your 5700G uses 10-20W less than any non-G Ryzen due to the monolithic chip (the chiplet interconnects use a data serializer on both ends and this eats shit ton of power to run, they fixed it with Strix Halo and it's getting ported to Zen 6).

I don't know how you can set up the thing you mentioned, but with how fast PCIe is, it would be trivial for the card to send completed frames through the PCIe channel into the iGPU framebuffer that's inside main memory.
Keep in mind that the dGPU would be still idling most of the time when you do this, but like I said, the RX7600 uses bugger all power in idle. It has very few VRMs and only 2 RAM chips.
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>>108321120
Is it valid to deliver in person rtx 6000 pro plus a bunch of other electronics to france from another low vat country, how does the custom like it?
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>>108324988
Don't about rdna 3 carda you're gonna set off that njeetia shill who spams the same 3 images and copy-pasta that they are "defective" everytime they are mentioned
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>>108324973
>LLMs + Diffusion
subhuman detected; opinion discarded.
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Crimson Desert runs better on 7900XTX & 9070XT than 5080 & 5070ti.
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>>108325017
>muh gayming
grow up kid
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>>108323106
Fucking sandniggers
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>>108324988
thanks anon, I still don't now how to do the iGP-dGpu switch thing but I learned a lot from this post. I knew GPUs don't consume that much electricity when doing light tasks, but I'm just very poor and I don't want to use the GPU for browsing and watching videos because I fear wearing it down when I only game a couple days per month.
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>>108325018
No it doesn't.
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>>108325021
>>108323106
Better deal with them now, rather than deal with the entrenched ones later
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>>108325036
Crimson Desert Runs With 60FPS on an AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX at Native 4K/Ultra Settings With Ray Tracing

Nvidia crashes
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>>108324561
Cute
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>MFW I'll get enjoy Crimson Desert GOTY with the best performance and visual quality on my 9070 XT and 9800x3d PC thanks to the AMD sponsorship and amazing FSR Redstone feature set
>Meanwhile nvidiots will be crying on the steam forum because no DLSS or ray reconstruction
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>>108324955
Far far less popular
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>>108324969
Wish I'd understand how to use Linux
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>>108324969
Wow I'm sold where do I buy one of these 7900 XTX. I've looked in a bunch of garbage cans where everybody threw them, but have had no luck so far.
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No Radeon GPU Is Ugly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83p69JhDnwU
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>>108324148
it was 50% off because I gave a head to the guy.

my 5070ti was 350 + 60minutes of bottom

my 2tb nvme ssd was basically free as it cost me only a few months of findom fetish play

dunno why people saying computers are unaffordable.
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>>108324238
>>get a wireview pro 2
>>get a heat detection PSU
>>108324629
>one or the other is enough
excuse me but wut the fuck?
Im planning to get a 5090, especially if it gets a good 500 cheaper. current prices are my limit, it get more expensive and I cant justify it

but wtf you guys talking about? do you really need those things? I got an platinum 1600w psu, but old 8pins. I really dont wanna replace my psu
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>>108325274
You don't "need" it the same way you dont need insurance, but when it melts you're left holding the mess
The problem isn't the power supply it's the power cable
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>>108325274
if you buy a high end gpu you have to baby it or it will bite you hard with instability or heat.
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>>108321120
>Save money buy Gen 4 SSD
tell me like the best budget gen 4 ssd to get
is it ssd or nvme ?
live in shithole called romania
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>>108325002
Pointing out real & obvious hardware defect doesn't make me a shill.
/pcbg/ isn't a place to validate your purchase. It's a place to help people make better purchasing decisions like avoiding buggy trash like RDNA3 GPUs.

>>108324945
Sell that buggy RX 7600, make it someone else's problem, the hardware bugs are real >>108271523
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>>108325301
no one even sells SATA SSD any more
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What's the best way to quickly set up a duel boot with windows 10?

I need to update my ASUS monitor, but the updater always crashes on Windows 11. Everyone says Windows 10 works, though.

I can't just set up a virtual machine on windows 10, can I?
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>108325318
OK dlss schizo. We all know it's you >108325318 Spamming the same shit over and over like you have for 10 years straight still, rdna is just your new mentally ill brains obsession instead of schizo spam about dlss. Everyone filter this poorfag jeet still using all sata ssd's in 2026. It will increase the thread quality for you greatly
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>>108325355
I'm not the DLSS guy, moron.
I told people to wait for RDNA4 or to stop at the GRE.
I'm not a brand warring retard like both of you sad faggots.

It's okay to tell people to avoid buying buggy abortions like RDNA3.
Laptop manufacturers transitioned to RDNA 3.5 GPUs for their higher end products for a reason.
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>Don't talk about real RX 7000 problems! That's brand shilling!
Kek'd.
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>Obsession with radeon gpus
>Same exact posting style spamming the same repetitive images and talking points over and over in every thread
>It's not me guys look at these posts from other people I pulled from the archive
You're mentally ill and retarded dlss bro.
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>>108325408
There is no obsession, it's okay to shit on an obvious abortion like RDNA3.

>Same exact posting style
No we don't, but continue to obsess over that guy.

>You're mentally ill
I'm not the DLSS guy, I've recommened the 9060 XT 16 GB & 9070 XT far more often than the 5070 Ti last year.
There's no point in telling people to spend more on something they're not sure of buying.
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It's funny how this nicotroon used to tell people to skip RDNA3 and buy the 9070 XT.
It's brand warring if someone else says the same thing.
Talk about being insecure about the Radeon brand.
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>108325438
>Image proving he isn't dlss schizo uses the exact same shitty ms paint style he used
Kek
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>>108325354
create another partition and install windows to that partition. you can do it in the windows iso installer.
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>>108325457
>ms paint style
Because it's the most low-effort way to edit images and share them on 4Chan.
Thousands of people on 4Chan take screenshots using the snippet tool and edit them on MS Paint.
You're not very smart, kys.
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>>108325454
>Anyone that calls me out is my mortal enemy the nico troon
Every post you just confirm it's you dlss schizo. Too bad this is a containment general for the mentally ill posters of /g/ so you and your amdrone counterpart will never be rangebanned like you deserve to be

For any newfag reading this do not trust this thread 90% of the posts are this mentally ill dlss nigger and the nicotroon just shilling. Go to the pcpartpicker forums and use YouTube if you want genuine advice
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>>108325466
Is it easy to undo that?
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dlss schizo told people to buy a 3080 10gb over a 6800xt 16gb lol
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>>108325487
You can delete the partition in the same installer if you want to get rid of it.
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>>108325354
In case you have multiple monitors unplug the ones you don't want to update and try again.
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>>108325483
The DLSS guy never recommended any RX 7000 or Radeon cards in general, I have.
It's okay to call out terrible products like RDNA3 cards the abortions they are.
AMD Radeon literally stopped adding new features to RX 7000 cards because it has a trash heap for a GPU architecture.

If this hurts your feelings, too bad. I told you all to wait for RDNA4 if GeForce cards weren't an option.
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>>108324987
>invest in a sand blaster
I already did.
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>>108324971
I bought a corona xbox 360 in 2024 for $50 while in america but haven't done anything with it because I forgot to get an EU PSU
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>>108324833
90 percent of the pc market doesn't know what those things are.
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>>108325623
And most of them are content with what they're seeing.
We're at a point where people are turning on DLSS + Reflex on competitive shooters like BF6 and Arc Raiders.
Deadlock's default settings enables FSR3 btw.
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>>108325594
Cute.
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>Posting shill slides made by nvidia marketing
Dead general. Only Indians posting here for 1 rupee per post now
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>>108325660
>'You're not allowed to cite first party data'
The only brand warring shithead here is (you).
All of these GPU manufacturers want their gaming customers to use upscaling and FG, and game devs are enabling them on default.
And I've told you this before, you can fuck off if you don't like this place.
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>>108325623
80 percent of NVIDIA owners use DLSS.
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>>108325642
DLSS reduces latency. So it makes sense.
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I'm watching that Jay video where he's testing his four 5090s and he said the best most stable power and results he got was when he took his astral off the main test rig PSU and gave it its own dedicated PSU. Are we going to get to the point where dual PSUs are normal in builds with a PSU dedicated for the GPU only? I don't think we're there quite yet but I feel like it's coming pretty soon. Like what if the 6090 launches with 1000W and dual 12V-2x6 as default? It doesn't sound crazy to me and rather than having 1 2000W or 3000W PSU running everything it may make a lot more sense for builds to give the GPU its own PSU. Or will we never get there? I dunno, the low end is being abandoned quickly, as is all power concerns.
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This child thinks NVIDIA has any incentive to falsify gaming user data when they're in a dominant market position to begin with.
NVIDIA would've added "90% use (Multi) Frame Generation" if they wanted to publish fake feature adoption information.
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Nvidia DLSS beat Native "AKA TAA Blurshit" Rendering in every game

AMD Fucking Shit Renderer 4 (FSR4) LOST to Native "AKA TAA Blurshit" Rendering in every game
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What's a good or normal idle/light-load CPU temp?
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>>108325710
AMD or Intel
Because AMD = Intel + 20C
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>>108325710
Depends on the chip, Ryzen CPUs generally have higher idle temps because the interconnect between the compute chiplet(s) and the I/O Die is always active.
Around 40~50°C idle for Ryzen CPUs isn't unusual, especially if air cooled.
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>>108325710
Maybe if you actually posted a coherent context we'd be able to help.
Post your CPU okay?
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>>108325697
Surely the easiest option at that point is just to build a PSU into a GPU and have you plug a power cord directly into it. Then you wouldn't have to worry about wires at all.
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>first party data
>hardware bugs
im 100% convinced there are neurons on the foreskin because hes clearly missing half of them
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Hi, frens.
I was this anon that was having issues at startup unless my PC warmed up, crashing multiple times before being okay for days. >>108187136
Yesterday, it appears I fixed the issue.
I set the PCIe gen to 4 instead of Auto in BIOS and everything appears to boot up smoothly now.

Anyone know if this is a sign of a bigger problem?
I have a 5080, but my motherboard is AM4, so it can't use PCIe gen 5 anyways.
Searches seem to mention that the PSU cables might be providing gen 4 power instead of gen 5 to the GPU. Not sure what that means, if anything, for my system.
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>>108325710
AMD's thermals are shit. And expect like High-30s to low 40s on a good set up. But probably closer to 50 for most people.
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My 5070 ti just had a driver timeout on RE9 Requiem again so done with this shit
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>>108325704

No surprise that DLSS quality beats TAA.

But if the game supports DLSS it should also support DLAA.
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>>108325736
*Yawns loudly in your face*
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i see its that time of the day again
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>>108325736
You think that's bad?
My 9070XT caught fire yesterday. Fucking Nvidia cables.
And my 9800X3D got burnt too. Why is my MSI board running Asrock BIOS?
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>>108325729
Keep your conspiracy schizo shit to yourself.
It's a hardware bug if RDNA3 card owners have to downclock their GPU boosts to prevent it from crashing.
Nearly four years worth of drivers couldn't fix it.
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>>108325725
>>108325722
>>108325719
Sorry
7800x3d - Air cooled (phantom spirit 120 SE)
Having it on for around 90 minutes while I got all my drivers and software installed on it seemed to be hovering around low to mid 40's
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>>108325746
Yeah, that's about as good as it gets with AMD.
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My 5090 cable just melted again and I had to ship it out for another RMA so done with this shit
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>>108325746
>it seemed to be hovering around low to mid 40's
Normal for air cooled Ryzen CPU temps.
7800X3D will run a bit warmer because the VCache on top of the compute chiplet increase thermal resistance.
It's why there's technically no OCing support for this CPU.
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>>108325760
Bro, that's nothing.
I tried playing a game with my 9070XT, and the game is newer than 2022 so it got less than 60fps with any modern settings on.
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>>108325746
>low to mid 40's
sounds about ryzen
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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
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>>108325683
And they don't even know it.
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>>108325775
>>108325769
>>108325758
Thanks. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't me fucking up the cooler installation or not using enough thermal paste or anything
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>>108325789
Bro, I'm so fucking done with AMD, I bought a RX 7600 XT when it released on January 24, 2024, and it's already EoL and not getting Redstone 4.
What the fuck??? It's a 2-year-old card? I'm buying a 1080TI.
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Nicotroon's parents must've had a rough life to neglect this thing like a feral animal.
Sad they couldn't afford that abortion.
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why does he need to remind everyone that dlssnigger is gone and that everything he doesnt like its niconiggers fault? makes you think doesnt it
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>>108325818
>it's already EoL and not getting Redstone 4.
I know this is a shitpost, but I told people this was likely to happen with RDNA 3 cards.
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>>108325851
It's obviously him. Why the fuck would the dlss schizo quit the thread after a decade just because someone posted an image calling him a pedo.
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>>108325851
>>108325864
Two dumbasses don't make a right conclusion.
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I just got my bonus and was gonna use it to upgrade my PC this year before all the hardware price shit went down from AI.
Just give it to me straight, are prices ever coming back down or am I fucked and just bite the bullet and upgrade anyway? I can wait another year or two, but if it is going to stay high even after AI demand cools off because consumers are used to the new shitty prices, or AI demand doesn’t cool off (or gets worse), I’ll just take the cock in my ass and build now anyway.
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>>108325876
>are prices ever coming back down
Not to the all time lows, 2023~ mid 2025 was the best time to build a DDR5 PC.

>I fucked and just bite the bullet and upgrade anyway? I can wait another year or two
It's complete speculation at this point, the ongoing war might cause enough destabilization to the economy and reduce AI investments.
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>>108325864
>posted an image calling him a pedo
proving he is*
i dont remember what it was exactly but he was happily telling everyone how nice underb& pussy was, something like that
(((suddenly))) the threads became calm for a month or two when he was gone and then he came back reminding everyone that it was totally not him
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>>108325889
Write your DLSS pedo fan fiction somewhere else.
>'If you talk shit about RDNA3, you are the DLSS guy!'
Mad.
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>>108325876
Depends what you mean by "down".
Are GPUs ever going back to $500 for the top end?
No.
Is RAM going back to being dirt cheap?
Probably not any time soon. But maybe eventually.

I would honestly just build now, or wait a couple months.
Look for a good bundle deal of RAM + CPU + MOBO at Newegg or microcenter. You'll end up paying a couple hundred more for less RAM than you wanted, and maybe a bit more for a GPU. But, it's been this way for months and it's not getting suddenly better.
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>its not me, im just that much of a retard like him
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>>108325915
Telling people to avoid genuinely buggy products is what people in /pcbg/ is supposed to do.
Watch the Steam Machine's custom RX 7600 ship with lower clock speeds to prevent the hardware crashes.
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>>108325888
>>108325914
I guess by “down” I mean like prices from a few months ago. I feel like right now RAM at least is at or close to an all time high.
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>>108325934
I just can't stop being right.
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>>108325876
>building
Bro prebuilds are now cheaper. Think of it as a complete bundle package now. If you're building from scratch it's a no brainer. Do you have specs or use case in mind, a budget, or just want a good value? There's a nice prebuild at costco right now for $2300. If you want to go cheaper than you can spend more on a storage memory or a nice monitor. Tell us where you're at and we can give some advice. Place should be called prebuild general now haha.
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>>108325934
i know youre retarded enough to not realize it yourself but youre also calling valve retarded for using (((bugged))) hardware
plus somehow youre ignoring the low footprint format they are using for that box
just stuck to image spam and ban evasion or someday you will forget to breath
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>6 gorillon human beans are wrong for buying red hardware
>1 gigaretard is right and the rest of the universe is wrong
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>>108325958
>calling valve retarded for using (((bugged))) hardware
They down clocked the chip to 2450MHz, that's the maximum.
That's nearly 200 MHz safety margin vs. a reference grade RX 7600 8 GB.

Valve knows what they're doing.
They're sourcing dirt cheap GPUs no one else wants and capping their performance to prevent the crashes.
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>>108323289
LG ended production a year ago
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>>108325876
if you believe all the shit about
>DRAM sold out for next year
then it seems hard to believe that prices are going to come down for another 2 years, but then OpenAI also seems like they're starting to struggle now and investors are no longer pumping money into everything AI now that they've realised making funny AI cat videos don't generate profits in even short term
it honestly depends on how shit your current machine is and what you want to do. My current rig can still run most games at 60FPS but I'm dumping my bonus into all the PC parts so I can get it up to 4k. Just bought a 9950x3d and was about to buy a motherboard until it went out of fucking stock
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>>108325942
You're in a lose-lose situation, you'll have to decide for yourself.
I would check out some memory or storage bundle deals, or just buy a prebuilt PC.
Build whatever you want if money isn't much of an issue.
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>>108325274
The 5090 is the cheapest-built flagship gpu ever released, it's basically the 4090 problems but severely worsened
you can only buy it if
>you get a wireview pro 2
>live in a cold area or have a/c
>have an AIO liquid cooling for your CPU
>really good air flow otherwise your DDR5 is going to die

it went from outrageous to hilarious, honestly
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>>108326133
The vast majority of the 5090s in the field are air cooled models, the power connectors aren't melting at a concerning rate.
You are blowing things out of proportion.
Where is all these 4090 catastrophe reports when plenty of AIB models can draw over 500W?
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>>108326169
The 4090 didn't lead a company to realize that designing a device to fix the dogshit cable would be a profitable venture
Thermalgrizzly is literally earning money thanks to nvidia being retards
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>>108322633
OK but do you actually NEED a Blu Ray drive in your PC? So what if production ended, you have like one BD disc in your house and were never going to buy more to burn or rip.
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I can see why everyone hates these 12V 2x6 connectors for GPUS, holy fuck. I literally peeled a piece of skin off my thumb from how hard I had to push to get it into the PSU without any of the connector color showing.
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>>108325746
What is your room temperature? 25° C?
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>>108326190
>didn't lead a company to realize that designing a device to fix
WireView series of products existed before the 5090, retard. It was made for the 4090s that can draw up to 600W of power.
WireView Pro 2 doesn't fix the current balancing, it's a glorified reporting & shut down tool.
I used the 4090 as a reference because it's been in the field longer than the 5090, so there should be more reports of it melting by now.
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>>108326169
>the power connectors aren't melting at a concerning rate
...But they are melting
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>>108326196
You could just buy an external usb Blu-ray. I have a real nice internal one in storage that I only used three times. I bought it in 2015.
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>>108325722
>idle temps because the interconnect between the compute chiplet(s) and the I/O Die is always active.
Which is why Ryzen chips also guzzle idle power no better than Bulldozer, 20-50w
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>>108326202
pray you didn't unseat any of the cables because that's also enough to cause a meltdown...
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>>108326223
>You could just buy an external usb Blu-ray.
Like the one literally posted that ended production and is $160 now for remaining stock?
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>>108326215
They're melting on 9070 XTs too, retards will be retards.
If you're not comfortable with the sub 1% risk of melting, you don't have to buy it.
No one's forcing you to buy a 5090 or a card with these connectors.
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>>108326237
There's always a used PS3. Those are dirt cheap and it will play any Bluray movie except the 4k HDR ones.
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I'm just waiting for God Emperor Xi to save the RAM market.
At this point, fuck the gooks and fuck the japs.
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>>108326210
The pro 1 is literally irrelevant compared to the pro 2 because the pro 2 is DESIGNED for the 12v cable because it has per pin monitoring which is where the issue lies, retard
the 5090 pushes that dogshit cable to its very limit (while turning you case into a volcano if it's air cooled)
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>>108326237
Chill dude.
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>>108326258
This doesn't make the Pro 2 primarily designed for the 5090.
>the 5090 pushes that dogshit cable to its very limit
A 4090 FE could draw the maximum rated 600W per 12VHPWR connector without any hardware/software modifications.
The concerns existed with the 4090.
Where's all the melted 4090 FEs? GN had to deliberately cause their test sample's power connector to melt.
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Are there other cases with this weirdo rotated psu mounting location?

Just found out about this DeepCool CH600 case, but can't buy it in the US.
Lian Li 207 was the first case I saw like this, but I don't like the way the front looks.
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>>108326287
Not a case but I just bought a Corsair Shift which just puts the PSU cables on the side of the PSU. I'm sick of dealing with spaghetti cables and also destroying my fingers pulling the plugs out
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>>108326238
>burned blue-tipped adapter cables
I don't have mine laying around, but they're talking about this wacky thing.
I think every instance of these Sapphire cards having problems, it was with this adapter.
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>>108323686
Not him but I ordered an used HP Omen with GTX 1080Ti with some Intel I5 CPU for fairly cheap.
Beats my current laptop over few times at least, so I should be fine playing a bit newer games and maybe light Blender usage.
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>>108326280
A 4090 will always have a significantly lower power draw than a 5090 in the same conditions. It's a low risk for both but it's still significantly higher on a 5090. Not to mention it is extremely likely that many people poorly seated their 4090 cable because the problem wasn't as widely known at it is today, the user errors are less likely to happen for 5090s so that makes every melted cable case even more worrying.

The 4090's connector was bad but it's the kind of mistake that happens once in a generation and is usually fixed by the following one. The fact that the 5000 are doubling down on it is absolutely ludicrous.
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>>108326314
There's been no recall or product notice for that specific adapter.
There are thousands of people whose 9070 XT Nitro+ are fine with that power adapter.
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>>108326324
Actually, I'm even considering trying to underclock/volt it a bit for stability and longevity purposes.
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>>108326243
It will not rip or burn anything so it is useless.
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>>108326326
>The fact that the 5000 are doubling down on it is absolutely ludicrous.
Because the issue is overblown. You find new reports of people's Zen 5 X3D chips dying these days.
All this fearmongering helped people spread better awareness on how to install and maintain these cards.

Cablemod also filed a product recall for their adapters after fewer than 300 RMAs.
The power connectors are less risky than their garbage.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2024/GPU-Angled-Adapters-Recalled-Due-to-Fire-and-Burn-Hazards-Manufactured-by-CableMod

Just don't buy these GPUs if you don't like the power connector, it's that simple.
Watch AMD Radeon use these power connectors for RDNA5 cards.
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>>108326314
my 4090 has been plugged to this for two years now
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>>108326357
A CFW PS3 can rip discs but it can't burn. But bluray burning is incredibly niche.
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So strange how all these AIBs are willing to take the risk of continuing to sell muh housefire, must have WireView Pro 2 5090s.
They literally cannot get enough of these GPUs and VRAMs to meet the market demand.
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>>108326364
Powercolor is never using 12vhpwr. They will sooner add a 4th pcie plug like the old R9 cards.
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>>108326304
Right now I have a dual chamber case. It's kind of chunky, and there are a few other minor complaints.
But having fans directly beneath the graphics card has been good for temps.

That alternative psu location seems like the best of both worlds, but it's uncommon.
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>>108326364
NVIDIA should have let their partners change the connector and specs. That's my only issue with the situation. If the cables and connectors are within a 600w spec, who cares how they implement. It literally cant be worse.
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>>108326421
They're likely to go out of business given the current VRAM market.
AMD needs to pay more for those GDDR6 chip orders vs. NVIDIA's GDDR7 contracts.
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>>108326435
TUL is one of the biggest companies in china and have been making hardware before you were born
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>>108326433
>NVIDIA should have let their partners change the connector and specs.
The last time NVIDIA gave their board partners some leeway, MSI's done some dumb shit.
MSI also decided to abandon Radeon GPU production make more GeForce GPUs with these "housefire", "must have WireView" connectors.
The situation is overblown. Buy something else if it's beyond your risk tolerance.
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>>108326441
So you're saying TUL doesn't need PowerColor when it's not generating any profit (or not enough profits).
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>>108326462
>So you're saying
No.
>They're likely to go out of business
No.
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>>108326468
The market speaks for itself.
RTX 50 prices keep rising because there's a decent amount of Radeon card owners deciding they don't want it to be the last dGPU they'll ever own.
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>>108326456
I'm solely talking about power delivery specks not do whatever you want to the core. For example run whatever connector, or enable whatever type of protection you want as long as it fits the 600w specs minimal.
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>>108326435
>memory companies being driven out of business by supply fuckery
Time is a flat circle.
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>9070 £530
>9070 xt £590
ehhh
is it really worth the upsell? playing 1440p
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>>108322633
Great either LG WH14NS40 or LG WH16NS40 and cheap powered data to USB connector for it instead. Then you can read and burn UHD for cheaper.
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>>108326509
>is it really worth the upsell?
Given this could end up being the last GPU you'll ever own, yes. VRAM prices hasn't peaked yet.
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>>108326527
fair point
fuck this gay earth
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so now that the dust has settled and the 9070xt has already overtaken the 5070ti, which version do I buy?

does brand matter that much, or do I just buy the cheapest model?
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>>108326557
5090.
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>>108326557
from what I've read sapphire, xfx, and powercolor are mainstay AMD partners
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>>108326573
Sapphire is who I bought from the last time I bought AMD, but my last Nvidia card was from Zotac (relatively lesser tier) and it's work flawlessly for 5+ years

that being said, the cheapest 9070xt is like $950 and the most expensive is $1100, so I may as well get the best version
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>>108326573
XFX used to do NVIDIA cards before they got the boot
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>>108320636
I decided to deshroud my RAM (99% IPA bath for ~3 hours, dried with compressed air and a fan), based on SPD readings it did improve the temperature by about ~7C at max (57C to 50C max in stress tests), but this could just be because the PMIC is no longer distributing heat to the rest of the ICs/sensor like >>108320998 mentioned. I also setup a better FanControl profile to adjust case intakes based on CPU+RAM/GPU+RAM since I noticed the highest temps when CPU wasn't loaded and intake fans weren't running as fast, but RAM was still under load. I ordered pic related, going to see if attaching heatsinks to the ICs helps further, my RAM is dual sided so the 10mm ones are going to be too large for the DRAM modules, I think 5mm will fit but it will be tight. Aliexpress also sells some decent looking heatsinks made for RAM that might be good, hard to tell with how shit the OEM ones are, but you'd think a big ass block of copper with some fins would be better than a few small heatsinks on each IC.
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>>108325876
The scalping prices will probably stabilize, but prices won't go down at this point. Every single market is getting hit hard by inflation and the dumbest people you can fathom are working hard to continue tanking the reserve currency.
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If I install Windows 10 onto a partition in my main drive will it wipe all the data on the drive that's not partitioned for windows 10?
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>>108326815
Windows requires an additional recovery partition (less than 1GB) and an EFI System Partition (100 MB).
Existing data shouldn't be at risk if the drive has enough unallocated space for those partitions (Windows, Recovery, & System partitions).
I'd recommend at least 100~150GB unallocated space, depending on how many apps and files you're going to install & store in the Windows drive.
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>>108326557
>>108326588
Get a powercolor hellhound reva edition.
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>>108321120
Alright, so I've repasted a GTX1080 because it was running hot. But in doing so, while removing the cooler, one of the thermal pads from the mosfets got damaged. What happened was a piece of it was dried out and stayed stuck on the mosfet while the rest stayed stuck on the cooler. I've since reassembled it, the idea being that the chunks will reallign and along with the general squishiness of the pads they are going to spread.

It's running like a dream now, but how fucked is that particular mosfet?
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>>108326874
Who knows? If the temperatures improved, there should be enough mounting pressure for all the components.
Undervolt + OC it to reduce the card's power draw if you're concerned.
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>>108326874
You should have changed the pads out if it was that old. That or buy a tub of putty to replace the random torn pad.
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>>108326895
You're 100% right but this is the third time I repaste this exact card and the other two times the pads were in excellent condition so I thought my good fortune would continue. I didn't have pads on hand and I do need to use the card, so...

>>108326894
Was hoping to hear "eh it's gonna be fine' or something though now I'm thinking I have to replace the pads sometime in the near future. Or the card itself lmao.
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Is 78-80c for a laptop CPU high?
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>>108327117
No. Laptops basically operate hot and thermal throttle.
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>>108327117
That's expected for laptops, the chips can go up to 90~100°C and thermally throttle performance.
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BROS?!

https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/asus-says-memory-shortage-should-start-to-normalize-by-2027-but-nobody-wants-to-be-the-first-one-to-lower-prices
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>>108327424
Wow maybe just one more year!
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I see a lot of people selling bricked GPUs for parts. Do people actually buy this shit? What can you even do with that card?
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>>108327514
Some take a gamble to see if it's a relatively straightforward fix (VRM component or VRAM replacement).
If the GPU chip is advertised to be dead, professional GPU repairers buy them to use as donor boards or harvest the working parts (if some components are difficult to source).
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>>108327117
AMD will keep rocking until 110c. the 95c limit is conservative.
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>>108327547
Do you like killing your silicon years earlier than it would have otherwise died?
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>>108327514
They often list the pics. Sometimes you don't see underneath but you know its unsalvageage when the PCIE connector is gone. It's gonna need a donor board and that costs as much as you what you paid for.
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>>108327556
Operating at up to 110C Junction Temperature during typical gaming usage is expected and within spec, stated AMD. If you can't trust the guys who made the thing then don't buy.
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>>108327577
You're retarded

Opearting AT TJmax is not expected or normal.

Can it do it? Yes. But it's sure as fuck not "expected" for extended usage.

TJMax is meant for momentary bursts, not extended operations.

Running your chip regularly at/near TJMax is just asking to kill your silicon in a few years compared to 8-12+ years otherwise.
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What's the best place to find good deals on used pc parts?
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>>108327589
>But it's sure as fuck not "expected" for extended usage.
It is literally fine for extended usage. There's nothing indicating the contrary.
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>>108327577
This is what AMD's outsourced Indian customer service reps said about their reference RX 7900 XTX with defective vapor chambers.
https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/how-many-amd-rx-7900-xtxs-are-defective/
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>>108327604
TJMax has NEVER been a metric for extended usage.

You're literally retarded and taking a paper spec for the maximum safe operating temp and applying it as if that's an expected normal operating temp.

Sorry, but that has NEVER been the case with silicon and we KNOW for decades of evidence, excessive heat, and excessive voltage WILL reduce the silicone life span.
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>>108327665
I don't know why you're stanning so hard for a company that's reducing video card shipments at a faster rate than NVIDIA.
AMD doesn't care about expanding Radeon's market share. AMD doesn't care about helping gamers get more affordable video cards.
Their GDDR6 VRAM BOM costs more than NVIDIA's GDDR7 supply contracts, that's a horrible bargaining position.

Lisa Su said they're looking forward to expanding higher margin enterprise customers during this memory shortage.
None of these guys are your friend.
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There are a few ok deals on PSUs that are lacking a pcie 8 pin I need, the draw I'm expecting is not tremendous, can I use some sort of splitter without terrible results?
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>>108327702
List the PSUs you're considering, some newer PSUs like be Quiet supplies enough 8-pin PCIe cables through the 12V-2x6 interface.
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>>108327716
Oh like the MSI MPG A850GS, does not appear to have the cables you describe, but I'm open to anything just don't want to bump my price point up to like 200 bucks
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>>108327424
>we don’t want the entire market as every consumer picks our product because of the price point
If this isn’t proof of price-hiking colluding cabals I don’t know what is
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>>108327748
>MSI MPG A850GS
The official spec sheet for this PSU notes it provides 3x PCIe 8pin cables (6+2). That's enough to power a 450W video card.
You probably don't need more for the GPU.
https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A850GS-PCIE5/Specification
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>>108327770
Sorry I should have been clearer, I want to power 3 GPUs (varying e waste) and still need one cable for the psu
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>>108327817
You'll have to buy older 1000W or higher PSU for this specific use case (ATX 2.x instead of ATX 3.x & PCIe 5.x).
The new PSUs with 12V-2x6 power connectors expect people to use that cable for the GPU, and provide two or three 8-pin options for video cards that don't use it.
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Ignore the nicotranny OP of the other thread
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>>108327847
Dang, that was my fear, but I guess that's the plan thanks anon
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Looks like I can get a 4 months old Astral 5090 for €2800, handed to me in person
Is that a decent deal?
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>>108328395
kinda mid since its used and you need to manage the risk with being able to rma it with receipts and shit
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>>108328395
I'd say it's good, could be better than brand new because most defective electronics fail during the first weeks of use
at least you know you're getting a working batch, provided you saw the card running



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