Do not trust Canadians.

Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
Just read TomsHardware and consult YouTube for primary sources
No new GPU/CPU models until Q2 2027+

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
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>GPU hierarchy 2026
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>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
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>Storage Reviews
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>Other helpful Links
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Monitor reviews: https://www.rtings.com/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

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>>108347595
newfag to pcgb, how am I doing here? As is tradition, I will not be listening to any advice btw

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>>108347732
just needing it to store and server data to my mac studio, going to get these rack mounted HDD bays

>>108347732
>>108347747
I'm a little sketch about the mobo, got some poor reviews but otherwise it's 2.5gbe and 6x SATA ports.. And could I downsize the PSU?

Are GPU prices going up or down?

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POODNA4 CONFIRMED ABANDONED ALL DRIVER SUPPORT

>>108348096
Is your dick going up or down?

>>108348096
downn't

>>108347732
>>108347747
>>108347759
please help me. im a good person

>>108348488
m8 first specify your usecase. why do you need the 4 2.5gbit ports? is this going to be a router too?

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So according to Jack Huynh from AMD, Next Gen FSR that is supported by the New Xbox Helix is Called FSR Diamond.

The post goes as :

“ Big moment for the future of gaming.

Thrilled to partner with @Xbox and @asha_shar on Project Helix, a multi-year deep co-engineering partnership driving next-gen performance, breakthrough graphics, and compatibility with your existing Xbox game library.

Powering the experience: super excited to unveil @AMD FSR Diamond, designed to be natively optimized for Project Helix and deeply integrated into the GDK:

• Built for next-gen neural rendering

• Next-gen ML-based upscaling

• New ML-based multi-frame generation

• Next-gen Ray Regeneration for RT & Path Tracing

Thank you @Microsoft and Xbox team for an epic engineering collaboration. 20+ years of innovation and we’re pushing it further than ever.

FSR Diamond opens up a new dimension of innovation. More to come.

>>108348096
memory prices arent going down this year and gpus use memory

>>108348169
hardware ray tracing
hardware upscaling
ray regen
path tracing
neural textures
Oh look it's all that stuff Nvidia developed and gamers tell me they hate so much

>>108348096
they were crazy a few weeks ago but ngl they look pretty stable here rn maybe a hundred over normal prices

>>108348596
>FSR Cuckstone obsolete already
>POODNA4 totally not getting all those hardware features since it has inferior garbage hardware, so much for muh fine wine meme

>>108348596
So they built it specifically for xbox hardware requirements? Thank fuck someone is actually forcing amd to get their shit together for once

>>108348596
AMD always do all this talking
Just release it!
Why make all these announcements and then half the stuff is missing when it finally launches months or even years later

>>108348630
No
nvidia created popular features
both console makers told amd "we want the popular nvidia features and you'll implement them or we buy another vendors soc"
amd then copied nvidia 5-8 years late

>>108348642
Doesn't disagree with what I said. If you read the language its not just some tech devs implement into games. Its hardware level stuff specifically for this next gen xbox console.

>>108348660
I dont see anything "custom" for anyone.
AMD does have the separate interests for sony and microsoft, so they cant take their investments or partnership research and transfer it over to enrich the competition but I assume the features are largely generic ml stuff.

>>108348671
I'm guessing this is all standard requirements for dx13 hence why they were forced to stop wasting time and actually get their shit together. RDNA 5 will be the biggest generational leap for radeon in their history by the sounds of it. And thanks to a fucking console. Shows how far they've fallen. Redstone is still broken btw.

>>108348581
>4 2.5gbit ports?
Ethernet ports? I don't think I do.

My use case is basically as a glorified external harddrive for my mac, storing a lot market data that I'll be transferring to and from the mac depending on what I'm working on. I don't think I need a router or switch because I'll only ever have two devices - the mac and this thing.

>Microsoft is launching Xbox Mode for Windows 11 PCs next month

Man that Steam Box scared the shit outta them they're getting this out while Valve are figuring out how to fucking buy some ram and ssds

>>108348581
oh, and also wanting it to host an ethereum node, which I think is pretty low compute requirement just needs a lot (~1-2TB) of NVMe

I spent a few days learning the ins and outs of overclocking and undervolting my cpu and dialing my settings in, only to learn from a random forum comment from years ago that I can just set up a turbo ratio and thermal limit and achieve similar results with more stability.

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AYYMDEADPOORFAGS, NOT LIKE THIS

>Installing drivers on PC after building and installing Windows
>Screen suddenly goes black
>Keyboard and mouse lights turn off
>Holding the power button doesn't shut off the PC, have to flip the PSU switch
>Problem persists after turning it back on
What the fuck is happening?

>>108348772
I always said RDNA4 is a stepping stone generation, basically a core feature test for these next gen console GPU architectures.

the extension that changes my filtered posts into "i am gay" is great

>>108348742
>set up a turbo ratio and thermal limit and achieve similar results with more stability.
Undervolted CPU will still run more power efficiently. Stability depends on how much you're committed to validating it.

>>108348887
i am gay

>>108348706
MS owns major publishers, including mobile games.
They treat the gaming division as a product testing lab for AI & cloud servers.

>>108348896
I don’t know how much is a lot to offset but I was down to -.015 volt on the p-cores (any less had no noticeable effect on temps) and games would crash, although it would pass stability tests. Setting my target temp with the highest stable p-core and e-core ratios without increasing voltage resulted in similar, if not better benchmarks and no crashing in game, but I’m still pretty bad.

Question: I already built a PC but the question is I have an AM5 board with a ryzen9 9950X3D for CPU and I bought 2 sticks of 48gib RAM but it supports only XMP and doesn't have EXPO - It's a corsair vengeance ram model. I did set XMP profile via UEFI. Does it affect my PCs performance in a negative light, because it using different overclocking technology which was made for intel boards or it doesn't? I do remember AMD CPU were using intel's XMP until they made their own overclocking technology.
Well, Games do run fine but I don't think I noticed any improvement in FPS performance also I do see the XMP overclocking speed which is 7000MT
In CPU-X it shows XMP's profile clock speed is enabled, which is 7000MT mhz. So I'm ok? Or ram overclocking is just a placebo, I don't notice any FPS improvement in gaming, I think. It's stable mostly. I did buy this ram before the ram apocalypse.

>>108348985
>-.015 volt on the p-cores
You mentioned overclock + undervolt, the overclock is preventing you from setting a larger undervolt.
The +100 or 200 MHz boost clock OC requires a lot of voltage to stabilize, these chips are already shipped way past the efficient V/F point.

>>108348871
Your mobo should have post leds or post code or post speaker to clue you in on whats happening. It's probably power related.

>>108347595
>2025 06: 32gb ddr4 is 45 bucks
>2026 01: 32gb ddr4 is 240 bucks
OK fuck Korean jews if I see a Korean that Asian insect will be roundhouse kicked into the concrete

>>108349032
The mobo has some pointless RGB lights and no speaker, but it does light up with a spinning CPU fan when it powers up.

>>108349065
List your full specs

>>108349024
>way past the efficient V/F point
What the vaginal/fecal point got to do with my megahertzes and shieet

>>108349075
Asus A520M TUF Gaming II, Ryzen 5600GT, Kingston DDR4 8Gb RAM (single stick, kinda old), Cooler Master G600 Gold, a WD Blue 4Tb and a Seagate 1Tb. I had this exact same problem with a different setup using the same RAM and HDDs.

>>108349120
Go ask your shit-eating whore of a mother.

>>108349147
Judging from how old everything is I assume it's the power supply.

>>108349024
maybe I was just getting greedy. I got my 265k set to 5.4 p-cores with all active and 4.8 e-cores with all active. I was aiming for around 80-85 degrees at heavy load with a single tower air cooler. I was already limiting max wattage and voltage and turbo ratio so this seemed like a different path to the same result

>>108349165
Whoa chill jam boy.

>>108348068
So if the next gen of AMD Console GPUs have RT support.
What does that mean for the 90XX cards?

>>108349195
The PSU was the first thing I swapped out, about two months ago, as I had this issue with the previous PSU as well (Corsair RMx 550). I even had my home's main checked. The only things left from my old build are the RAM stick and the case itself from like 2013. It's a little rusty.

>>108349223
No more sapport no more h1b1 visas saar village will go extinct

>>108347732
I don't think you should buy deez dings becuz they bad but you no listen and do the stupid which is gud.

>>108349232
Your Mobo has a speaker port right above the port you plug in your case power button and reset button. You buy a speaker for like a few dollars and plug into it and it tells you why it doesn't post. It's probably memory.

>>108349165
Indian Chad stole this beta's gf. Now I took his izzat

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But I paid $800 leaf bucks for my 9070 XT. I deserve FSR5.

>yfw you can't afford a pc and basically you are a saar now

>>108349223
PS5 has RT support bro

>>108349278
Sorry no sapport fsr 5 uses dedicated computing units. Pls buy new product

>even intel cards are getting new versions of XeSS
why can't AMD just not fuck over their consumers? do they actively hate having a real marketshare?

>>108349291
>PS5 has RT support bro
>ps2 level surface reflections now considered rt
Grim

>>108349306
Nobody using Intel gpus so who cares.

>>108349203
Check Overclock.net and other communities, not enough people with Arrow Lake CPUs to share meaningful tuning info to you.
Be mindful of the voltages, I'd keep it running under 1.35V.

>>108349330
The wattage mustn't stay stable to check concerns. I will see it now tring

>>108349330
Thank you, I’ll keep working on it and check those forums out.

the less you know about shit the happier you are
i used to have a 12g vram 3060 and i thought it was overkill for everything, now i need 48 vram MINIMUM and it's gonna be obsolete next year
you know what? fuck this shit, i'm selling my rig and going back to 4gb vram, simpler times

>>108349001
sfine don't worry about it
EXPO still sucks ass

>>108349260
Thanks, I'll take a look.

You don't have to worry about upscaler support if you never use the slop in the first place.

>>108349372
You can unity jeetcode just fine with a 4gb vram pc.

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Typical Nvidia shitter build. Spend a fortune on a GPU, rest of build sucks ass, nonstop troubleshooting issues. Basically bought a expensive brick.

>>108349416
Who the hell are you talking about?

>>108349422
The average reddit & 4chan build in 2026.

Nvidia should make standalone Tensor Cards, like Physx cards back in the day.
So then even the poorest AMDfag can buy an add-on to use modern technology.

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>>108349317
>Nobody using Intel gpus so who cares.
I am though

>>108349430
but according to reddit and 4chan everyone buys and builds AMD

>>108349430
That's an RTX 20 GPU, you dumbass.
Another generation where Radeon didn't shit anything out for the higher end.

>>108349440
Yeah and you're a nobody

>>108349416

>3060Ti
>Poverty-core CPU Cooler
>Fake Lian Li fans.
>Whatever the fuck that is above the GPU.
Implessive.
I'm gonna guess $1500 facebook marketplace second hand prebuilt.

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RE9
REQUIEM
PATH TRACING
NOTHING COMES CLOSE
IT IS OVER FOR RAY TRACING

>>108349469
RTX 2060 + Ryzen 3600.
ASUS makes Strix cards for mainstream GPUs because there's clearly a market for them.

>>108349306
AMD's gaming customers are Microsoft and Sony.
They don't give a fuck about PC gaming that's why at GDC today they only made announcements for the xbox and playstation.

>>108349470
>devs no longer care about raytracing because path tracing is the new super important slop
>path tracing looks like basic dynamic lighting from 10+ years ago
they are just selling us shit. lazy muh dedicated hardware disgusting slop and planned obsolence every couple years.
these are the dark times of technology.

>>108349622
Are you just upset because you can't use it?

>>108349657
He's you just upset because he can't use it

https://old.reddit.com/r/radeon/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1rr4723/amd_reveals_fsr_diamond_for_nextgen_xbox_but_is/

LEDDIT IS FUCKING FURIOUS AND SEETHING AFTER REALIZING THEIR POODNA4 GPUS IS PRETTY MUCH ABANDONED, LOLMAO

>>108349657
>Are you just upset because you can't use it?
thats such a jam boy reaction.

>>108349622
Basic dynamic lighting doesn't include global illumination and reflections.

>>108349706
I remember telling somebody on /v/ yesterday they were gonna look like a moron when AMD announces tech that the current 90XX can't use in <2 years.
I didn't realise I meant <2 days.

>>108349711
You absolutely do not understand a fucking thing about lighting systems in real-time rendering if you think we could do this shit 10 years ago.

>>108349717
>global illumination and reflections.
ding-ding-ding
those things are not new either. for a fact they so old you could fuck them legally.

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I give up, I'm going back to video game consoles and tablets

>>108349748
Path tracing is a method of doing them in higher fidelity than ray tracing and screenspace methods, in real time. Not to mention the reflections and light bounces are real, not reliant on tricks.

>>108349747
>muh real time jam boy training
>muh caste system and lightning system saar
the juice doesnt justify the squeeze.
graphics are stagnating so extremely hard its not even funny.

>>108349778
shut up jensen and no, they are not real.

>>108349787
So you're just splitting hairs and sour grapes-ing because you can't afford hardware to run it.

>>108349807
if games were fun and engaging not just retarded slop for brownoids then maybe I could feel a slight jelaousy.

flatscreen is boring. muh pathpigtracing will be rotated out and retired in 5 years or less. the only legit reason to own a modern gpu is to generate nudes of the girls you know. you acting like a total jeet.

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>>108348772
>nicotroon in shambles
Imagine taking advice from a 21yo canadian jeet
lmao
My first build is older than that faggot.
I told that retard that amd will cut rdoa4 off.
UDOA will finally have proper matrix cores but 9 years after nvidia lmao.

>>108349783
Okay, so go back to playing games that are 10+ years old.

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>>108349847
5 years ago I built a top tier pc just to shitpost on the internet on a 4k display. dont underestimate my power.

>>108349886
Apparently not top-tier if you're here bitching about not being able to run PT.

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surely the bad PR will make them reconsider this purported lack of FSR 5 support on current gen products

>>108349470
>You need path tracing for basic self shadows
Owari da

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>>108349910
you worry a lot about my pc do you worry about the penis I fuck your mom with you maderchod fuck?

Soon I will manifest a 5090pc and I will still not touch pt or goygames but I will generate fake ai videos of you and your dad passionately making out behind a shed then I will upload those videos on your social media and basically ruin your whole life, impact generational aura damage on your bloodline and make your permanently izzat disabled.

you bitchfuck

>>108349913
Hopefully it will work just as well this time around!

>>108349944
Okay.
I hope you have fun with it and stop bitching.

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>they bought the amd

>>108349706
>https://wccftech.com/project-helix-dev-kits-out-2027-xbox-gdc-2026/

Well dev kit confirmed to come out on 2027 means that console did get delayed to 2028, kinda retarded to confirm that RDNA4 is in maintenance mode one year after you release it though, they could have just shut up about it but i guess they really want to use that DRAM for Ryzen PRO and Radeon PRO workstation cards

>>108349433
They do, but not for you. Well, they make nothing for you now, but anyway what do you think the hyperscalers are buying for their AI slop factories?

Which is going to have better noise dampening, the Pure Base 600 or the Dark Base 900? Those fancy side vents look like they might leak noise.

>>108349469
They spent all their money on that 3060 Ti when it was $750

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>>108348596
Anyone else thinks that maybe the PS6 is really getting delayed to 2029 like the rumours said which meant AMD lost the ametyhst partnership? kinda crazy that all the sony ceo came out and said the ps5 was on its midlife cycle and sony is now exiting the pc gaming market for their ports or games too https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/mustafa-mahmoud/ps5-is-only-mid-way-through-its-lifecycle-claims-sony-cfo/

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>nivida cuts sapport
do nothing
>amd cuts sapport
*angry chimp noises*

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>>108349955
It has never been more over

>>108350020
there was a big fuss about physx
and nvidia even brought partial support back
try again

>>108350020
njudea supported the 1xxx series (10 years old) until this year
amd refuses to support a single generation previous

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>>108350020
Honestly you are seeing it in the wrong way, Helix dev kits dont come until 2027 and PS6 has not been announced which means you are looking at AMD not having anything to hold it legs in terms of GPU marketshare until 2028, Console market was the one thing forcing devs to catter to them but PC its outgrowing the console market massively and this is only gonna get worse until 2028, the result is that nvidia will basically have every single dev under the sun on a chokehold until 2028

>>108350025
its literally called FSR DIAMOND
I got a feeling this is going to be soooo damn good and groundbreaking its gonna be the industry standard for the next 10 years

>>108349470
FF7 Rebirth desperately needed this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQIHpqWRN9s

Nvidia is heavily investing in neural rendering to enable the next gen of GeForce despite being attacked by low IQ retard faggots that don't know shit saying they're abandoning gaming, the same retards that attack Nvidia back in 2018 for investing in ray tracing and tensor cores

>>108350037
so this is what we do now? making up bullshit?
>>108350026
>partial sapport
>>108350050
>nvidia will basically have every single dev under the sun on a chokehold until 2028
so business as usual.

honestly I was really expecting great amd apus and new performance king consoles to finally escape the stagnation. ram prices were cheap, ssds fast, cpus strong. everything was in such a great trajectory until sam altman jewed everyone,

>>108349952
Nobody actually uses path tracing you turd

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>>108350083
>the same retards that attack Nvidia back in 2018 for investing in ray tracing and tensor cores
>nvidia is a pos since 2018 and computer graphics improved nothing
must be just a coincidence....

>>108350009
Sony is AMD's larger gaming customer than Microsoft, both of these companies are using an SoC with Zen 6 + RDNA5/UDNA1 GPU.
These gaming chips were always noted to be "semi-custom" products, not fully customized, costlier chips.
They might request slightly different binning and NPUs.

The FSR Diamond announcement is just a marketing name, it looks bad on Microsoft and Sony if Xbox is piggybacking off of Project Amethyst.
They might have slightly different FSR training models since Sony PlayStation has an in-house QA team for PSSR's model.
I'm guessing Microsoft's Xbox SoC will have more NPUs for Copilot+ or some other AI assistant crap.
There won't be much difference to the silicon specs that matter for gaming, Sony PlayStation will influence the system requirements anyway.

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>>108350085
>so business as usual.
Not really, before this year console was still a bigger market than PC gaming, its been only a few months and we are starting to see how fast every single dev under the sun is now releasing path tracing game and even Capcom abandoned AMD, basically you have to keep in mind that there is a cross period generation in which outside of microsoft literally sponsoring every single release on 2028 under the sun to launch with full FSR diamond support you'll see games only starting to fully adopt this on 2029 because of how dev cycles happen (most 2028 games are on the polish phase on 2027 when the sdk is launching)

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>>108350083
everyone laugh at this retarded goyslave, jesus christ lmao. Even an Njudean fanboy would cringe at this point kek.

>>108350092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC98WaHzd4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNd4ZxUze3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG14pEaL-U0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2txz4nHM5KU

FUCK OFF RETARD FAGGOT

>>108350099
Sony already said delaying the PS6 would cost them more money than launching it. I'm not sure how that woks out unless the ecexs have all placed huge polymarket bets on the PS6 launch date

>>108350120
That was MLID saying bullshit, so far the official stance on sony is that the ps5 cycle is on its mid cycle and AMD has not announced anything

>>108350009
>Anyone else thinks that maybe the PS6 is really getting delayed to 2029 like the rumours said
I dont know a single person that owns a ps5.
Expecting a new playstation in 2026 felt rushed as fuck but console generations always cuck pc so I cant say I wasnt excited.

I also wanna see the rdna 5 apus.

>>108350097
>>108350111
https://github.com/GPUOpen-Drivers/AMD-Gfx-Drivers/issues/93#issuecomment-4012656074

Stay mad faggot, your Poodeon garbage is abandonware with no drivers

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>>108350050
>result is that nvidia will basically have every single dev under the sun on a chokehold until 2028
The money is still in consoles, except for some PC-centric multiplayer games.
That's why you see all these AAA slop release without proper NVIDIA optimizations.

Game devs with the resources to ship additional RTX eye candy will continue to partner with NVIDIA.
Consoles will still set the baseline visuals, gameplay features, & performance.

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how likely are good (indie) games to use this newfangled path tracing thing?

>>108350128
the issue is not expecting it to launch on 2026 but when the devs get the SDK because of how dev cycles work, basically if devs dont get thje ps6 sdk on 2027 it means that 2029 launch (the trusted leakerr date when the delay got leaked) its real and you'll see AMD lose all grip they have with devs

All I can say for sure is gamedevs will never shadow map ever again

>>108350092
I do.
Shit looks good.

>>108350138
Not really https://www.tweaktown.com/news/109431/gaming-to-make-record-breaking-dollars197-billion-in-2025-pc-revenue-almost-ties-console/index.html

Console are on its last legs, its over for amd

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27 or 32 inches monitor? Is 32 even viable for a normal desk or too big?

>>108350120
>Sony already said delaying the PS6 would cost them more money than launching it
The release date is immaterial to us. AMD didn't lose any Sony partnership.
Sony & AMD are practically pals for life because the PS4 SoC orders kept AMD on life support while AMD was developing Ryzen & Epyc CPUs.

It's too costly for Sony PlayStation to look at other chip designers, the AMD production workflow is institutionalized at this point.
Intel fan fiction writers are forgetting backward compat hardware is a big deal to gamers.

>>108350138
I don't know, it doesn't seem like people under 25 are playing on console all that much these days besides the switch

>>108350158
They aren't AMD copers are losing their grip with reallitry because kepler said their 9070 XT is abandonware

>>108350150
one would assume pc revenue is spread over significantly more titles, thus being less profitable for any particular company

>>108350154
Get a piece of cardboard and cut it to size

>>108350160
its not abandonware its just not going to sapport the new trademarked fsr diamond technology.

this is the cuda moment of amd. watch them cook.

>>108350139
I have that exact same MSI 1070. It was a tank and held up for years without issue.

>>108350150
New AAA games sell more copies on consoles, the PC revenues are padded by the likes of MTX.
Steam's top revenue generator list at the end of the year shows everything you need to know about this.
There's a reason why Sony's decided it's not worth porting their first party titles to the PC.

>>108350166
Believe it or not its the opposite, Console is way more top heavy with only sportfags games, call of duty and normalfag EA games making most of the revenue, capcom said that now they make way more from PC sales than console ones

>>108350154
>>108350178
shart on floor, get a stick, draw both display size. sit inside, feel them out a lil and then pick whichever size fits you.

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>sapport

ESLs or "pretending to be retarded", please both fuck off.

>>108350182
>Since FY21, Capcom’s digital PC game sales share has increased from 26.6% to 54.4%. In contrast, digital Console game sales share declined from 50.3% to 35.7%.
No they arent https://overclock3d.net/news/software/pc-now-accounts-for-54-4-of-capcom-game-sales/#:~:text=PC%20now%20accounts%20for%2054.4,skip%20the%20PC%20platform%20entirely.

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AMD finally finished losing, we have two years of total nvidia domination, retards that boughted the 9070 XT will be remember for decades

>>108350182
>There's a reason why Sony's decided it's not worth porting their first party titles to the PC.
Which has coincided with Microsoft saying the next console will play PC games.
They need to look at the bigger issue which was the quality of their sequels. All their sequels sold worse than their original launch titles on both playstation and PC. The argument doesn't wash, if people are just waiting for the PC port, why is the PC port still selling less. I guarantee if Ghost of Yotei launched on PC it would have sold less than Ghost of Tsushima did on PC and sold less than Yotei did on the PS5.

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>>108350208
>Capcom
They don't speak for the entire industry.
There's a reason why Take2 and Rockstar are fine with releasing GTA6 on the consoles first.
There's a reason why game devs have been making more console-friendly UI designs.
No FIFA, no Madden on that 2025 best-selling Steam chart either.

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>its over for PC
>actually its over for consoles
>nah its generally over for everything
so which one?

How absolutely retarded and mentally disabled am I to consider buying a second hand regular PS5 JUST so I can play GTA 6 at launch?
My PC can definitely handle GTA 6 when it inevitably comes to PC, the RTX 5070 and all, but I don't want to be a total cuck and have to wait 1-2 more years just to play the most hyped up game release since GTA 5...

>>108350230
No consoles until 2028, and RDNA4 has been abandoned, a certain canadian is gonna get an aneyurism when he stops shitposting in /v/ now we just have the usual german retard that trade a 4070 for a 9070 xt

>>108350234
just wait, play other things

>>108350234
I bought a PS4 to play bloodborne and it was the worst tech decision that I've ever made

>>108350218
>retards that boughted the 9070 XT will be remember for decades
you call them retards. we call them heroes. without their sapport amd would be bankrupt by now.

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>>108350230
The death of consoles are overblown, people in /pcbg/ would overstate it.
The PS5's doing just fine matching the pace of the PS4's sale at worst.
That's quite good considering the shower of shit they've released this entire generation.
It took Spider Man 2 to fully decouple from cross generation first party titles as well.
I'm not counting Ratchet and Clank because that game's not a system seller.

>>108350251
Now compare that to the install base on PC that it has been growing and you realize how over is for AMD

>>108350229
>>108350229
>No FIFA, no Madden on that 2025 best-selling Steam chart either.
Exactly, consoles are carried by sports sims and call of duty most people with a PS5 buy it so just to play that game.

>>108350257
>compare that to the install base on PC
Most of the gaming PCs in the Steam Survey are inferior to the Series S and the base PS5.
Let's see how many gaming PCs can run GTA6 or Witcher 4.

>>108350244
that's the plan, but being the terminally online retard I am I'd have to delete twitter from my phone and stop using youtube, 4chan and r*ddit on my PC to avoid being blasted with GTA 6 content from all sides when it comes out
otherwise I'll just succumb to FOMO
I didn't succumb to PS3 FOMO for GTA 5 back in the day, because I was 13-14 and couldn't make financial decisions on my own. I finally played it when it came out on PC, but by then I wasn't necessarily hyped out of my ass for it, it was just another 2015 AAA game.

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>>108350248
Don't worry you can just rent it next time. Playstation understands where things are heading for at least

>>108350271
Speaking of Witcher 4 they were just with Nvidia at GDC this week speaking about how the entire game is Path traced

>>108350285
You were not supposed to point that out

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Game devs aren't going to de-prioritize or abandon consoles for a very long time, there's too much money to be made.
Diablo 4's gameplay is so shit because everything is neutered to run on the PS4 @ 30 FPS with FSR1 enabled.
Blizzard made that decision because it helps them make a shit ton of money.

For that Capcom sales guy, I bet they generate more MTX revenues on console players.

>>108350271
>Most of the gaming PCs in the Steam Survey are inferior to the Series S and the base PS5.
nigga the base PS5 is about Ryzen 5 3600 and RX 6700 territory, it only runs games because console fags are okay with 720p upscaled to 1440p and 30 FPS "quality" mode with some settings lower than the "low" preset of the PC port

>>108350285
CD Projekt will have a base setting for consoles with light RT that they can run, these guys ported Cyberpunk to the Switch 2.
They want to maximize their income, they're not 4Chan shitters emotionally charged when it comes to gaming consoles.

>>108350295
And the vast majority of PCs captured on the Steam Survey fail too meet those hardware specs.

>No need to upgrade for another 2 years
>I can save money for next BFGpu
Comfy.

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>he boughted AMD
>now he has to cope pretending consoles aren't doa

>>108350300
I think you forget how shit CP77 was at launch.
Witcher 4 will use UE5 to generate the most man-faced iteration of Ciri yet. It'll have Hardware RT, but likely use Lumen for non-RT cards. And Lumen runs like shit and is CPU bound.

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I consume because I support the economy. Simple as.

wow this place is garbage like videocardz dot com

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>>108350302
Taking into account support for DLSS4.5, most of the top GPUs on the survey chart succeed in matching or beating the RX 6700 in performance.

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>>108350311
saar please buy a 9070 xt saar

>>108350308
I own an NVIDIA GPU you dumb nigger, brand wars are beneath me.
Consoles will always be relevant, console hardware set the baseline for gameplay design.
PCs ports can look better and run faster, but the gameplay follows the same rules set that are bounded by console hardware's limitations.

If you play Diablo 4 on the PC, you're not getting denser mobs or more interesting boss mechanics compared to the poorfags playing it on the PS4.

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whats the big deal about the lack of fsr sapport? who cares? 16gb vram is already obsolete. basically everything this generation has to offer is shit, except the 5090.

our only option is waiting so be patient.

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I'm still waiting for it to restock.

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>>108350291
That says they made $150m from MTX but with $1 Billion made lifetime that's only a fraction of what they are making from selling copies and expansions, I can't find anything saying its sold more copies on console than on PC

And how many of these console players are just using gamepass which is how a lot these publishers are claiming millions of players for the most part.

>>108350309
>I think you forget how shit CP77 was at launch.
Doesn't matter, it's a UE5 game at the end of the day, and they'll find the settings to make it run @ 30 FPS on the Series S.

>>108350323
And all those check mark don't add up to a majority of PC gamers captured on the Steam Hardware Survey.

>>108350331
Keep coping german retard, its obvious its you

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>hmmm its time for me to buy a new display let me check rtings.com real fast

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>>108350343
They're still supporting last gen consoles for that game because these PS4/ Xbox One gamers are a profitable customer base.
You guys don't realize how much influence these consoles have on PC gaming.

>>108350345
And 30fps on PS5, PS6... Probably even PC.

>>108350321
hey it's either this or the 125th macbook neovagina thread

>>108350345
>don't add up to a majority
add them up yourself and you'll see it's above 60% of all PCs surveyed in the last month

>>108350368
At the end of the day, these guys are playing the same missions and see the same endings.
Console gamers are fine playing games at that setting, 120 FPS gameplay option is a relatively new feature in console gaming.

I am happy with my 9070xt dunno why should I care about something that may or may not come in 2027 q3 or whatever.

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>>108350336
>16gb vram is already obsolete
surely you must be exaggerating
16gb should do 4k just fine for a few more years, yes?

>>108350154
>>108350178
I just walked into my local bestbuy etc and looked at their 32 inch monitors on display

btw, they had an ultrawide, and they are fucking stupid

>>108350380
Console players dont get mods and its kinda essential to mod CDProjekt games. It's like how PC players of Skyrim get the unofficial patch that fixes everything while consoles are stuck with all the bugs Bethesda left.

>>108350375
>last month
You meant he obviously fucked up survey that claims there's nearly 10% of 5070 owners across all Steam Survey participants?
Nice strawman.

>>108350345
>>And all those check mark don't add up to a majority of PC gamers captured on the Steam Hardware Survey.
Yes it does, 57.82%

>>108350397
The vast majority of console gamers will be happy just to finish the game without save corruptions and constant crashes.

>>108350395
>16gb should do 4k just fine for a few more years, y-yes?!? saar!
uh-oh whos gonna tell him...

>>108350407
Except Skyrim on PS3 had save corruptions and constant crashes.

>>108350401
According to the month that claims the 5070 user base suddenly spiked up from less than 3% to nearly 10% in a single month.
Try again.

You know that is over when the retard that traded his 4070 for a 9070 XT is now trying toi pretend consoles are relevant

>>108350411
Except we're talking about the PS5 and the Series S.
Look at you bringing up ancient history, and two other guys having to add up the Steam Survey's busted month.
Desperation.
All this seething won't change the fact that game consoles set the baseline gameplay rules that PC ports have to follow, as well as the target hardware specs.

>>108350401
he talks about the reddit trans community hardware survey with 33% of participants owning a 5070/ti gpu

>>108350395
16GB VRAM is why the 5080 will never be a logical purchase even at MSRP

>>108350422
sounds like he made a great deal

>>108350118
Great demo! Nobody uses path tracing.

>>108350432
sounds like you are retarded

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>leave /pcbg/ for two months
>come back
>it's somehow even worse than before
Impressive.

>>108350414
No, the numbers seem fine to me, same thing happened last chinese new year too.

>>108350424
he says this as capcom abandons consoles lmao

>>108350434
compare their performance data and report back. even better idea: ask ai about it and there is your answer. the xt is a way better card.

>>108350424
I thought were talking about launches not decades old ports.

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>>108350438
you seen nothing yet, jam boy.

>>108350441
I'm rather more interested in the hardware base of the 11 remaining months of the year. You can overstate the importance of anomaly on your own time.

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SAAAARS SAAAAARS HOW MUCH MORE WAITING????? HOW MANY MORE DAYS SAAAARS?

>>108350446
thats the fun part, when you compare dlss vs fsr it was barely an upgrade but now that Kepler confirmed that FSR diamond is RDNA 5 exclusive we are only a year away until DLSS 5 makes the 4070 a better card, now imagine when you add all the pathtracing titles we'll get now that the new gen consoles have been delayed in which AMD cant even turn on pathtracing and you get probably the bigger waste of $600 you have ever seen

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>>108350451
Witcher 4 will launch for current gen consoles. Muh path tracing & mega geometry are optional eye candy.
The gameplay will be bound by the limits set by console hardware, like every cross-platform game releases.
You guys got it the other way around. Console has the bigger impact.

Like this nigger >>108350445 doesn't realize Monster Hunter Wilds or RE9 would have more advanced gameplay features if they weren't bound by the console hardware specs.

>>108350456
The numbers remain the same, the majority of PC gamers have the hardware for it. You looked at that image, decided it was false, got proven wrong and then decided you didn't like the data. Consoles quite frankly mean little to anything being discussed in this thread.

>>108350460
>this mid tier gpu is going to be better than that slightly above mid tier gpu in like a year

>>108350470
MH wilds is a AMD sponsored title anon, now compare that to after AMD got abandoned and RE requiem got partner with nvidia, but you'll keep seething and coping

>>108350474
Hey thats the fastest GPU AMD can produce

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>buy $1500 PC
>only use it to play gacha games and generate AI slop

>>108350392
Yeah, 9070XT is fine, if you want to upgrade often to get a consistent midrange experience.

>>108350470
>Monster Hunter Wilds or RE9 would have more advanced gameplay features if they weren't bound by the console hardware specs.

Come on now.

Monster Hunter didn't evolve at all when it went from PSP to Wii U or PS4 to PC.

Stop talking out of your ass.

>9060xt £350
>see the 5060ti is £420 only £70 more for dlss, rt, fg etc
>5070 founders edition £500
Apple tier kikery

>>108350471
>The numbers remain the same,
No, they don't. The share of the cards you've check marked is under 35% on January 26.

>Consoles quite frankly mean little to anything being discussed in this thread.
Only retards like you think like this, console literally dictate the gameplay limitations of every cross-platform title.
PC ports don't get smarter enemies, destructible envrionments, more interactive limb damage, etc. if the consoles can't run it.
Literally every major game you play on the PC is has their gameplay & design rules bound by the console's hardware limitations.

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Name 10 worthy games that is not older than 5 years.

Go on, I am waiting.

>>108350500
it gets worse
>5060 Ti has 16GB VRAM
>the objective upgrade in performance has only 12GB
>the next step up is almost 50% more expensive for 16GB again

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>AMD lost so hard the usual retards are now pretending to be consoletards

>>108350500
jokes on you the AMD is better and framegen looks like ass. suck my MSAA

>>108350500
and it works. people will pay more to get the iphone optimized app over the android unoptimized app.

>>108350511
Says the retard who doesn't understand how the console's hardware specs literally determines the gameplay scope & limitations of every single cross-platform title.

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>>108350500
why dont you buy the one with the most performance and vram? :)

>>108350521
Anon game develop in 4 to 6 year cycle, go look how much bigger the console revenue was 4 to 6 year ago (when the current games entered production) Basically as we move on with how top heavy consoler revenue is, every game dev is abandoning console (its already happening) by 2029 most games will have entered production around 2025 which when PC catched up and outpaced console overall revenue, but you know that and you know AMD lost

>>108350521
dont talk such rot thats not how it works.

>>108350532
All game devs are porting their titles to the Switch 2 if it's technically feasible. That's the reality.

>>108350536
porting ≠ developing
You lost

>>108350533
It's called gameplay parity nigger.
Not a coincidence the golden age of PC gaming had plenty of PC exclusives.

>>108350533
He knows he is wrong, he just coping hard because he got memed into buying a 9070 xt

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>>108350511
I say AMD won and I say this as a Dragon Platform builder.

>>108350540
They'll design their games with Switch 2 ports in mind when it makes sense. It's too much money to pass on.
The other versions, including PC, will look better and run faster. Core gameplay design will be restricted to what the Switch 2 can handle.

>>108350545
>gameplay parity nigger
Pari wut? That's not even a real word and don't use slurs you wouldnt use irl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGmk4QChD4

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>>108350564

>>108350547
Why don't you show me these PC ports where you get to interact with more advanced enemy scripts and other meaningful gameplay changes?
Malenia in Elden Ring has the same exact moveset whether you fight her in a $5000 PC or a PS4 (soon Switch 2).

>>108350570
see >>108350532

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>>108350559
It's been a thing, retard. You just don't think about it because you prioritize the superficial features.

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>>108350574
There's going to be another set of cross-generation cycle until the next gen consoles build enough install base to drop the PS5 era hardware.
Expect this to last until 2030 or beyond.
PS5 gamers didn't get smarter enemies or a different gameplay experience when they were playing GOWRagnarok or Horizon:FW.

>>108350592
Devs no longer care about consoles anon

AMD is pioneering next gen technologies not Nvidia.
AMD is pushing Vulkan and next gen DirectX for consoles and PC while Nvidia is sniffing "neural AI" pixie dust.

>>108350602
No, nigger. There's no true PC-exclusive AAA titles anymore.
Because game devs continue to care about consoles.

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>>108350564
>>108350568
What's worse, Mini LED haloing or OLED cleaning?

>>108350610
Anon you keep screaming while pretending that PC revenue did not catch up and keeps growing while console declines, or how capcom abandoned AMD. or how steam hardware survey proved you wrong, or how devs cycles do last 4 to 6 years, or how dev kits for console are send years prior to release because of how SDK works, for the switch 2 devs got them 2 years before launch so we are looking at 2028/2029 for new gen consoles while they are dying out

>>108350508
Roboquest
Kunitsu-Gami
Armored Core 6
Sea of Stars
Signalis
Lorelei and the Laser Eyes
Stray
Neon White
Lies of P

there's also a bunch of other games I like that are just alright like Sand Land, Daemon X Machina Titanic Scion, 9 Years of Shadows, etc
for AAA or almost-AAA stuff Clair Obscur is not bad, Elden Ring is good, Doom Dark Ages was a lot more fun than what people made it out to be

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ALL HANDS ON DECK
DIVE DIVE DIVE
PRICES ARE GOING DOWN, I REPEAT PRICES ARE GOING DOWN

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When are the gooks going to come out with an itx sized 5070?
I want to build a 4Litre VR rig, but picrel remains the best card that fits, but it was impossible to find even when it was new, and now its an antique..

this redditniggers entire persona is amd bad, every single post, every single thread

>>108350627
I have $600 of DDR4 sitting in ziplock bag somewhere I should sell it

>>108350630
it exists, check the colorful one https://www.techpowerup.com/review/colorful-geforce-rtx-5070-mini-oc/

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>>108350618
>or how capcom abandoned AMD
Except the RE Engine continues to perform better on Radeon cards until Capcom finds the time to better optimize it.

>how steam hardware survey proved you wrong
Sub 35% in January 2026 doesn't prove me wrong, you're treating the Chinese New Year anomaly as the norm when the figures were corrected afterward.
Consoles will continue to dictate what kinds of cross-platform games you're able to play.

>>108350650
too long, its 180mm.
I want to build in a velka 3 or Sktc A07, max gpu length is ~170mm, the size of an itx board.

>>108350458
booba

>>108350664
it fits in velka3 im pretty sure i saw a couple builds on reddit, only problem is you can only get this off ebay for the price of a 5070ti. https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/1r3lrgz/velka_3_5070_oc_mini/

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>amd this
>amd that
>amd boo
>amd hoo

>>108350689
oh shiet, nice.
ty anon.

I liked how the zephyr looked better, aesthetically, but i guess it doesnt matter much when the case isnt transtapent.

>>108347595
lmfao goofy ahh mcdonalds pc case aint no way

>>108350721
pumpkin hill ahh case

>>108350652
>2024/2027
anon thats a prediction its not based on real data

>>108350740
And not a single game developer is abandoning console ports in the near future (most likely never given current hardware prices).
I'll know when consoles are in trouble when PC ports get their exclusive set of game design / gameplay rule sets.

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>bought a couple of used 3090's 2 years ago to try out SLI
>get curious and check prices, they are double what I paid for now

things are that grim for PC hardware huh

>>108350769
Anon you dont make sense, you are just spouting nonsens and quote an unironically economic forecastr made for retarded boomers that play the stock market, at some point you realize that what i have been telling you for the past year is real and RDNA4 is garbage and consoles are dead

>>108350781
the last heterosexual green gpu

Can anyone do me a favor and post an image to help me test the color banding of my monitor?

I am having awful color banding issues, and I can't seem to find a good test image on google. Even if I did, can't tell.

I just need a simple gradient black to white image. But that for some reason is insanely hard to find.

I used to have a RTX 3060, and now with my RTX 5070Ti the color banding is awful.

>>108350781
It's only because of those 24GB.
A 3080Ti offers almost the same performance but goes for less than half of that.
Everyone just wants to get rich with AI shit.

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>>108350787
>and consoles are dead
Retarded claim to make in this market.
Especially since the PC gaming growth figures are padded by the Chinese & Roblox-playing children and predators.

>>108350818
I mean, I have a 3090 for stable diffusion, but I don't use it to make money, I have it perfectly setup for generating all my deepest darkest fetishes

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>Consoles are dead
Retards dont truly believe this do they? Consoles will never die and pc ports will always suffer because of this.

>>108350831
My bad, I underestimated the buying power of boners.

>>108350781
ah, a humble brag post

>>108350836
how could you

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>>108349259
I don't know where else the FUCK to get help!!! FUCK!!!!!!!

I just want a FUCKING COMPUTER!!!!!!! AND NOT A MILLION THINGS I WRONGLY ORDER ON AMAZON ILL ENVER RETURN!!!!

>>108347732
i couldnt have done better myself
go ahead with the purchase imo

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>>108350511
i bought. then in response my cousin bought himself a 5080. I also bought my brother a 5060 ti. me and my bro both came from a 5700xt
amd bros its so over, what happened.

>>108351445
>then in response my cousin bought himself a 5080
wut? does he get off on one-upping you or what

>>108351445
welp. guess you have to buy a blackwell 6000 now.

>>108351189
ok, I accept that somethings are cheap and will I guess look forward to the failure as a chance to upgrade. such is life.

>>108351582
>>108351491
he upgraded from a 2060?? idk ill have to ask him. he also upgraded his cpu to a 9800x3d. ig he wants to ignore upgrades for a while.

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>>108351626

IF YOU HAVE A FORMAL SPEC

why can't you just do a perfect regression over the bits and developer the exact program?

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I have a 4070, is it safe to update yet?

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its not as bad as i thought. i *could* still replace the whole thing if a freak accident destroyed every component. maybe a new case and psu would be nice. i wouldnt go with industrials again either they are wayyy too loud.
>>108350846

>>108350831
>tfw didn't get a used 3090 while cheap so now I can't do this
Very dark times...

>>108350781
what's grim about it? that gamers can't afford professional computers to play their games?

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>>108350508
I don't need 10 games.

>>108350592
I think the PS6 having such larger quantities of RAM and having such a focus on ray/path tracing, as well as Sony saying they're not going to port their games to PC anymore, indicates that they're going to drop PS5 sooner than PS4. the only reason they keep making games on PS4 is because more people own PS4 than PS5.

>>108350500
>ray tracing on anything but a 90 class novidio gpu
lol!

>>108350460
>FSR diamond is RDNA 5 exclusive
sauce me up.

>>108350424
but xbox is leaving the console market. their next "console" is a PC.

>>108351919
A 1 word xitter reply
That's the standard of proof for nviditroons

>>108350395
I think one of the reasons Sony isn't going to port games to PC is because only 90 class owners will be able to run them since they're all going to be built with path tracing going forward.

>>108351928
That's the standard of doom for amdrones

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I don't even think Linux can save this thing. it's launching too late, and the hardware is too weak. people won't accept it because it's not handheld like the Steam Deck.

>>108351928
ok, where's the tweet so I can cope, seethe, and dilate your mom's pussy with my cock?

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if (You) were going to buy the cheapest card because you're upgrading from a 1060-3GB, would (You) settle for the 5050 or buy a 60 class?
primary game is Dota 2, so dogshit cards are fine, and once every 30 years they try a different game.

>>108351949
I'll buy one regardless, along with the controller and VR headset. And I just built a 9800x3d with a 5070ti pc.

>>108351949
Valve is wasting resources making this GCN clone when they should just make more Sneed decks, that shit is sold out everywhere.

Am I suppose to use A-XMP or EXPO for the memory?

>>108352033
I would've paid money for the steam deck but in a mini-PC form factor. 200W Steam Machine with performance that low is kind of ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........

>>108352047
EXPO for Ryzen CPUs, A-XMP should be treated as a fallback option.

I need your help.
$1500 limit
at most slightly $50 over budget
what should I get? Ram on its own cost like $500 for 32gb.

>>108352089
Got it, thanks!

>>108350234
extremely. GTA6 will 100% be released on the ps6 and will run like dogshit on ps5. It'll be cyberpunk 2047 all over again.

>>108350291
im still mad i paid money for that slop, i didn't waste anymore on mtx, but that AAAA goyslop pricing for a mid game was offensive. 1 billion lifetime revenue is also them breaking even i bet, especially cuz they gonna run their own servers worldwide, that game was in development for how many years ?

>>108352047
my fancy ram wouldn't boot with EXPO even though it said it was compatible on the product sheet, so i'd just go with XMP if you're having any trouble. I was able to enable the windows 11 memory protection stuff just fine.

>>108352108
Depends where you live. If you're in the US, then try to go to a microcenter to get one of their bundles of cpu, mobo, and ram. Usually you get a decent pair of ram in the bundle for "free". Newegg use to have some good deals as well, but lately they've been pretty lackluster.

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>HDD from the early 2010s is finally starting to show signs of failure after 81000 power-on hours

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>>108352021
I'll buy one too, with Klarna of course.

>>108348726
alright so since you're getting a 4U frame, do you really need a small board? where are you even putting the pc? in a 2U server case? what about airflow?

>>108349278
sell it and buy new gpu.

>>108349837
Stale cope, poorfag.