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Do you updoot asap, wait for tester reports, or never unless it's broken?
fuck you brosyou told me amd's 9070xt was gonna be good this time
nigger
What are your thoughts on cases with front panel doors? It seems kind of stupid to me that they cover the 5.25 bays, if you put card readers in them you have to expose yourself to the noise.
>>108355419I love the box. How big are these cards that you can't just close the door?
>>108355419that design during the peak 5,25 utility days was simply the best. unless you need 5,25s its an obsolete design and no front panel cases look better.
How do these numbers look for a 5080?Maximum is whilst getting knotted by Furmark for 10 minutes. Current is whilst at idle.
>>108355412post your no diamond face
>>108355412i remember i got called a schizo for posting that these retarrds knew about this in advance and there was a reason why suddenly they turned their backs on AMD before they announced anything
>>108355506you are a schizo, they're not playing teams, they're discussing new subjects and concerns when they come up. Take your meds.
>>108355506the video posted was about some oem cpu + gpu combo for a lenovo handheld. it's on lenovo to provide drivers for that thing. amd only sells the hardware. you can't download drivers for the apu of the ps5 for example. lenovo can always pay for amd to make drivers.
>>1083555162nd this. there is no brand wars here, just technical discussion. apes seem to forget this.
>>108355524actually no, they discussed mfg and they implicitly said that they expect that to not be supported until RDNA 5 (which got confirmed yesterday)
What nvidia jamboys going to say when fsr diamong improves my fsr 4 performance by over 100%??Sure I will not get the fsr 5 experience but I will get a good 2x out of the deal.
>>108355550>mfg
>>108355555how is it gonna improve your experience if your card does not have the hardware to support it
>>108355640Its going to depend on size and RPMAll else equal the radiator probably limits to flow enough to be slightly positive
>>108355640if the intakes spin faster than the exhaust then its positive. if its the opposite its negative.
I'm thinking about selling my 9070XT, and grabbing a 5080, how big is the performance difference when running 9070XT with FSR4 quality versus the 5080 with DLSS4 (or 4.5) quality ?I like the 9070XT, but the lack of FSR4 on games, and having to use Optiscaler INT8 FSR4 is annoying, the 5070Ti is way too close on raster versus the 9070XT, and I am a third world monkey that can't bank a 4090/5090, so the 5080 is my only choice to get any form of upgrade in raster while having DLSS
>>108355640stand in front of your pc with your pants unzipped. if your dick is flapping in the wind then your pc has negative air pressure.
>>108355679how much is 9070xt and how much is 5080? over here 5080 is almost 2x the cost and its not even 10% more fps than the 5070ti.
>>108355703you want positive because the dust collects on the intake side which is where your dust filter usually is. negative means it can go through any hole and cranny.
>>108355703you def want negative pressure in your wife's vagine, you know what am sayin
you want air to blow out of the case.
>>108355733when indoor air is lower the outside air tries to rush in and that outside air could be anything from dust to smoke.
>>108355768well I smoke lots of cigs so I want my pc to deal with that problem. negative it is.
>>108355780Cigarette smoke will be unaffected by a typical dust filter
>>108355412Their current APOOs are RDOA3.5 and thus don't support fsr4. Lisa might as well take a big steaming shit on the 5% of the retards that still bought her shit.
>>108355419>all those open side vents and side panel intakesIs it just me or do higher tier be quiet cases ironically get less quiet and more leaky with noise?
>>108355780>well I smoke lots of cigsHAF anon is going to kill u m8, fag smoke will cover ur entire case as well as your lungs with a layer of oily sticky smelly tar. Dust filters will not do anything, they will just make it worse by adding more edges for it to stick onto and have the air spread the smell even more.
>>108355704•Here in Brazil, I got the 9070XT for 4.5k reais [$864]•The 5070Ti costs 6.2k reais ([$1.191], 37% up in price)•The 5080 costs 7.9k reais ([$1.517], 75% up in price)•The 5090 costs 18k reais ([$3,650], 322% up in price)Yes the jump in price from 9070XT to 5080 is ridiculous, but slightly better raster + DLSS and DLSS support is affecting my judgment a lot.
what a shitty threadanyways, rate my build
>>108355828see>>108355678You're in control of it.>>108355836Well there's your answer. It's not worth paying almost double the price for 10% more fps. You could easily buy a 280-360hz OLED and get more enjoyment.
>>108355848I have a 1080p 180hz monitor, and my 9070XT suffers to almost get close to the limit, I was thinking of replacing it with the 5080 so I could get closer to 180fps using DLSS + MFG 3x, and stop having to "fix" poor FSR implementation with Optiscaler neutered INT8 FSR4.But I guess the best choice is to follow your advice, the price jump is quite steep.
>>108355828Well anon, it depends entirely on how fast the fans are running and how much air they're moving.If your intakes are sucking in more air than your exhausts, the pressure within your case is positive and air will leave via any gaps in the panels.If your exhaust is blowing out more air than you're intaking, air is being sucked in from any gaps in the panels.
>>108355836the 16gb should affect your judgement too.njudea created this situation on purpose. for longdick style furure proofing you have nothing but the 4090/5090. the pricetag on the 5080 is unjustifyable and the 16gb seals its fate -its not future proof for long. wait or spend less money now so you can spend more money later. the 5080 offers terrible value.
>>108355894what game needs to run at 180fps
Its even funnier when you realize fsr diamond is going to be used on consoles so devs will move to that. Fsr 3.1 will remain the shitty fallback and 4.0 will be forgottenPost yfw you didn't fall for amd
>>108355894You can do MFG with Lossless Scaling it works extremely well with WGC. What I do is set the game to 90fps and queue target 0 and max frame latency 1 and x3 MFG. Now the game looks like 270fps and I don't feel any lag because my queue and frame are updating every 0-1ms.
>>108355945That's actually quite interesting, how's image quality using Lossless Scaling MFG versus FSR3.1 FG ? I might give an chance to LS after this
Ok I take the bait....Why do you think its called FSR DIAMOND and not FSR 5 instead hmmmm????? I give you a minute to figure it out.Its called fsr diamong because its the final and perfect version of amd upscale technology. Amd finally made it. This tech will blow up the whole market, it will make every console a 4k powerhouse, its going to be insane.Njudea's days are numbered. Save this post, mark my words. Its over for nvidia.
>>108355976
>>108355970The image quality depends on your framerate stability. If your framepacing is perfect it looks perfect. If its all juddery then it looks all over the place. As long as your GPU isn't maxing out 99-100% then the framerate and image quality should be good & stable and you feel no lag but there can be ofc CPU bottlenecks. Most GPUs can hit lock 90fps so there shouldn't be any issue unless its a bad game.
>>108355679who are these people that are stupid enough to buy a 5080?
>>108355894what cpu are you pairing this with and what games?
>>108355906games that don't require a 9070xt, 5070ti, 5080, or 5090, to reach that FPS.
>>108355976why is it called fsr redstone instead of fsr 4?
>>108356164it sounds cool
has there ever been a follow up to this? is it safe to update yet? I have an RTX 4070.
>>108356164cant believe I gotta explain thisdiamond:perfection. the final product. peak.redstone:industrial. lotta work ahead. its red, like amd, pls keep our business afloat. just a temporary stage. redstone nigga.diamond is coming. do you think they would call something slightly better than fsr 4 a 'diamond'??? the signs are clear and positive. as soon as new gen hardware hits the market we will be eating good. the upscaling saviour, diamond is here.
>>108356231please stop saar. this is painful to read.
praise diamond. its going to be the best. the absolute best.
>>108356207yes and no.if you want absolute stability use the studio driver.if you want more features/better performance at the risk of stability use the game ready driver.
>>108356207They fixed the drivers last week and released a new game ready driver recently (595.79).These guys can sell their GeForce cards and buy something else if the driver issues are dealbreakers (they're not, and they get fixed within days).
>>108356290They didn't "fix" the drivers. It's a whole software suite not just one dll file. Multiple shit is broken but its a "try on your system" type of deal.
>>108356136I mix between modern AAA games (like Cyberpunk) and some older ones (which obviously reach the max fps easily, like BF1).But I was thinking of something slightly better to bruteforce more frames on unoptimized games. My CPU is a 9800x3d.>>108356069Thanks for the info, looks like buying the 5080 is a absurdly stupid idea, I'll stick with the 9070XT and get Lossless Scaling
>>108356304You can play semantics on your own time.The vast majority of the +70% NVIDIA card owning PC gamers are fine with these drivers.
>>108356207They fixed it like the same day.
>>108356325its time to remind you: 32% of 5070 early adopters were transexuals and non binary. they supressed this information for long enough.
>>108356364Get help, tarding out like this won't fix your reality.
>>108356364kek
>>108356254shut up ai bot nigger.
>>108356364i hope this is real cos i laughed
>>108356373>>108356381I think I spotted some 'digitally literate power users' lmao
>FULL CIRCUIT AIRFLOW SYSTEMHow would this not just leak a shitton of noise? What if you wanted to cloee it up? These chinks seriously closed up the bottom PSU intake in favor of this. GN's tetings results did show the Pure Base 600 being quieter than the Dark Base 900 fans aside, unless I'm misunderstanding noise normalized testing here.
>>108356318One of the cool side effects is it lowers your GPU power draw and noise. 90fps 3x mfg is easier to run than 180fps without fg while the mfg looks superior.
>>108356408you are the same subhuman from the last thread >>108352954. the same subhuman that used "—" in his text. fuck off.
>>108356423dude you just acting like a paranoid schizo. I dont even know how to use that character, I dont even have that on my keyboard. chill we all having fun here. pcbg is an inclusive community. everybody is welcome here, even the transexuals or non binary.
>>108355325>the 4 TB ssd i bought 6 months ago is now almost double in priceHAHAHAHAHA, i wish God/ayy lmaos will smite this shithole planet so i could be free
>>108355325Fucking faggot jannies remove lolis as soon as posted but big dildoes get a pass?
>>108356471fuck off nigger. this is a tell tell sign of a bot. >>108356254>>108352954same image and same file name. it's you nigger.
>>108356512>jannies remove lolis as soon as posted but big dildoes get a pass?this thread is legit, it is legal.that dildo is being sold as a part of a discount mobo+cpu+ram+dildo combo deal. lolis are evil. dildos are our friend. dildos are not your enemy.
>>108356361you're clueless.
>>108356325people are also fine with being a 400 lb sack of shit. why should I care what the unwashed masses are fine with?
this hobby fucking sucks sometimes
>>108356554You can stop self-reporting your insecurities. Always the victim.
>>108356620what hobby?
>>108356207funny that this video is 1 year old and the same problems still exist, and all the people replying think this is about the latest fiasco with marathon release drivers.
>>108356649You think normal people have the patience and inclination to even update their drivers, yet alone fuck around in BIOS and open up a computer tower?This is a hobby.
what do the miscellaneous components in a computer usually add up to? cables, zip ties, fans, holders and brackets, and what have you
>>108356699$0. that's all included in the case.
>>108356690it's a one and done deal. i told my little brother how to enter the bios to change some settings on a friends pc because he couldn't run battlefield 6 (secure boot and tpm). now he knows how to enter a bios and how to update them.
>>108356699>>108356707how about the price you pay for crippling porn addiction?
What is the best way to use your gpu's fans to prevent them from degrading and start to rattle on your whole fucking room even on smallest speed? On it's own fans currently not work until around 57, after which they start to work for like a second and then immediately shut down, which seems to be pretty bad for gpu, if you try to consider how much this shit turns on and off when you play. I tried to build a curve, but it essentially just makes the issue slightly worse. It works for like 15 minutes max, even if you set the temperature where it's goes silent to pretty low number,(i set it to 37) and in the end it's still do it pretty often.If i make it work all the time like a normal fan, for around 16% or something(with the increase when needed) does it make it better or worse?
>>108356690I have not opened my computer since I built it.I have only entered the BIOS twice to update it, and that's only because I'm tuned in and am an early adopter of AM5.I have updated my GPU drivers regularly for over 20 years now, and it's even easier for normies now that the nvidia/amd apps actually work.
>>108356689More like that video is nearly a year old and you're still coping with it.AMD failed to gain any meaningful market share during that 11-month period.Because the drivers kept on improving.Not to mention plenty of Radeon card owners (including the 9070 XT owners) have been switching over to RTX 50 cards while they can still afford to do it.
>>108356620>Expensive ass motherboard.>TWO sticks of RAM.>Cheapo bargin bin Chinesium cooler.Weird.
>>108356775stupid shitskinned tranny. this isn't about brand wars it's about whether I can update my drivers or not and have a stable computer.
>>108356802install linux or enjoy your instability.
>>108356802>this isn't about brand warsSure it's not, NVIDIA video cards aren't the ones that need to be downclocked to run stable atm.Quit acting like a bitch and sell that imaginary 4070 and buy Radeon if it thinks that solves your life issues.Nicotroon got worse after he bought the 9070 XT, due to crippling buyer's remose.
>>108356814doesn't nvidia not work on linux?>>108356824retard.
>>108356853it does work. but it's like anal sex (on animals). time to buy a better gpu.
>>108356878eh. I think my next build will be an APU mini-PC that can run Deadlock at 4k 240fps at under 90W. SteamOS should be on full release by then too.
>>108356898>deadlockfriend of mine send (gifted? idk) it to me. i do remember playing it one time and it felt like dota in first person. so i uninstalled it. i don't get the appeal or what makes it special.
>>108354895it cost me around 200 bucks for Xiaomi G27Qi 2026 27"1440p200hz
>>108356929I've been playing dota and cs for over 20 years. Deadlock is made for me.
>>108356949i think this is the problem. i only played cs for over 20 years.
>>108356959you're only half based. unlucky.
>>108356949only based if CS1.6 and Dota Allstars
>>108356727Keeping the GPU fan running constantly at acceptable noise levels would be the best option.Fan start/stop & slowing down/ramping up causes wear & tear.Most AIB video card's fans are relatively easy to source & replace though.
>>108357004I started on cs 1.5 and roc dota before moving to 1.6 and allstars.
>>108356974i’ve been smurfing since i got one of those griefing bans for 40 days, which would mean that i would get permanently banned if i got another one. my smurf is already 8 years old. gaben can suck my nuts.
>>108357006>Keeping the GPU fan running constantly at acceptable noise levels would be the best option.>Fan start/stop & slowing down/ramping up causes wear & tear.Really?I have my gpu fans set to zero at idle and they only turn on when I use my gpu. Then they ramp up pretty much instantly to 100%. I only use my gpu when playing video games and I feel its better for them to not be on when I'm not using the gpu.
>>108357084not really he's retarded.
>>108357084It's true for his case>On it's own fans currently not work until around 57, after which they start to work for like a second and then immediately shut down, which seems to be pretty bad for gpu,>start to work for like a second and then immediately shut down, which seems to be pretty bad for gpu,This guy >>108357105 is the retard.
>>108357006I'm lazy(and kinda retarded) and so couldn't bother to deal with "adult lego" myself, so that mostly left me with looking for private technicians. So i prefer to keep my pc as problem-free as possible to not waste additional shitload of money on that. Anyway, ty for answering. >>108357084Do you play indiesloppa often? Or anything other that not put extreme level of load on your gpu. I have this problem with games sometimes, when they use your gpu enough for it to start heating, but not enough for it to still keep the temperature as set in the curve to keep working without turning off eventually. Really annoying shit.
>>108357121>fans working all the time is better for longevity than fans working half of the time
>>108357141fans turning on and off all the time is not good. fans spinning at low speed all the time is better. fans not working at all is best ofc.
>>108357072my alt account is also 21 years old lol. it says I haven't logged into it for 3633 days though. I had the original orange box so I used some extra keys to activate all the hl1 games on a second account, and let my friends use it so we could play cs.
>>108357141Keep ignoring the full context of his question like the moron you are.>start to work for like a second and then immediately shut down, which seems to be pretty bad for gpuIn his case, it's better to set the fan to run constantly.Electromechanical stress is at the highest during the start up spike, there's a specific term for this (stiction).This is what happens when retards are too obsessed over arguing in /pcbg/
>>108357161>all the time57 idle temps are unlikely, you lost
>>108357164making only one account was a mistake. i now have four because i got banned on the second one as well (but not with a 40 day). i now cycle through the new smurf accounts until i get banned on all of them and just play warthunder until i can play cs again. sometimes i give one of those three accounts to a friend when they get banned.
>>108357141Consistency is the key to longevity. It's better for fans to have a consistent constant voltage than to be changing all the time. Going from off to on is usually the biggest spike in voltage.
>>108355412>>108355565Can't wait for amdunboxed, gayniggersnexus, mild and the rest of the amdung shill force to only lightly cover this while still blaming nvidia somehow
I am very torn over two gpu's. My options are>5070 12gb Vram>5060TI 16gb VramFor $150 more I can get a 5070 but then I get cucked on possible future vram requirements because the 5070 is faster than the 5060ti buts it has 12gb vram vs the 5060ti's 16gb vram. I can't afford the 5070ti. What would you anons do? I am only interested in 1440p, I want DLSS. I don't care about 4k.
>>108357209I played with voice_enable 0 for 15 years so I don't really crash out and get banned. I just wish I could change the account name because it's cringe edgy teenager shit.
>>108356793>One of the best motherboards on the market>32gb of ram, perfectly good enough for gaming>one of the best AIO coolers on the marketSuck my ass.
>>108357240instead of not affording 5070 ti you should afford it
>>1083572405060 ti isn't going to be strong enough to play anything where 16gb will matter over 12gb. I would go 5070 ti or 9070 xt if I were buying a 16gb gpu.
>>108356708>it's a one and done deal.Definitely not.They don't give you pages and pages of BIOS options just to ignore it.
>>1083572489070XT means I need to use optiscaler. I have seen the autistic bullshit my friend has to deal with because of amd's retarded suite. No thanks and on top of that FSR4 is a lot worse than current DLSS.
>>108357244
>>108356477>if i has bought 10 of these i coild have the downpayment of a house nowi wish i could make these bold calls sometimes
>>10835724012GB VRAM is fine for most games @ 1440p. The games that may have some issues at launch eventually gets fixed.Game developers can't afford to neglect the 12GB VRAM install base, especially when video cards are getting pricier & unaffordable to mainstream PC gamers.If you're still worried about VRAM not being enough, just get the 5060 Ti 16 GB.
>>108357274>noise charts
>>108357220fans not working when they don't need to is the key to longevity.
>>108357274They're still one of the best fans for liquid cooling radiators in noise normalized comparisons.Reminder that these hardware reviewers have different testing methodologies.HWBuster might be placing their noise meter further away compared to HWCooling's.
>>108357304>Fans not moving.>Lubricant sinks with gravity.>Part of the bearing is now unlubed.>Gravity itself causes the bearing to rest against itself unevenly.>Suddenly gets told to spin up.>Massive jolt of energy forces the fan to spin against the bearing.>No lubrication until it's done a few rotations.>This is fine.>Much better than just keeping constant centrifugal force on the bearing.
Would I be going overboard getting a 1200w psu to future proof myself?
>>108357354the retarded and mentally ill are groups you can belong to yes
>>108357354yes.
>>108357354Not if you plan to own a video card that pulls around 500~600W in the future.
My realtek on board audio is pretty weak even with 60 ohm headphones so I'm thinking of getting a USB DAC. What are the cheap popular options?
>>108357383>>>/g/hpg
>>108357383FiiO KA11https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/fiio-ka11-portable-dac-amp-review.68800/
>>108357383no reason to have wired headphones when the cloud alpha wireless exist.
>>108357383You need a USB-C to USB-A adapter if you're buying the KA11 btw.
>>108357410Gemini says this doesn't have mic support?
>>108355412RDNA3 can run FSR Redstone, RDNA4 will probably run FSR Diamond or whatever comes next in the same way
>>108357438>mic supportYou probably need one of the soundblaster external solutions, the G3 or the Play! 3.https://us.creative.com/p/sound-blaster?filters=1199
>>108357431I already have wireless headphones but I have very comfortable wired ones too which I'd like to use. >>108357436My motherboard has a usb-c port at the back
>>108357457I have a soundblaster sound card that I recently removed to get better airflow to my GPU. With these prices I may as well just plug it back in.
>>108357324not reading this, you lost
>>108357354depends on your financial situation more than anything
https://youtu.be/T6jxiE2GQpYIs this video entirely accurate? This doesn't account for noise profile.
>>108357565Damn, this video is so old, Steve isn't even 300lb here.
Almost gone through my second 400ml can of primer and I only barely got half of the panels covered, I probably should have calculated the cost of paint into this project because holy shit this thing eats a lot of it.Yeah this is one overlooked variable that would have told you "just get a new case or a used high end case" perhaps.
>>108357583fighting a trillion dollar gook monster like jensen is a stressful duty. let him stress eat as much he wants, it only makes him stronger.
>>108357565"silent" cases are a complete meme.
>>108357286>If you're still worried about VRAM not being enough, just get the 5060 Ti 16 GB.There's really no good answer to this problem.I said it before and I'll say it again.The 50 series cards vram is designed around bandwidth. All of the main skus (60, 70, 80) have the vram have vram that they have because of memory bandwidth limitations. You can't have a 5070 without 12gb of gddr7, and you can't have a 5080 without 16gb of gddr7. So I feel that worrying about the amount of memory that a particular gpu has is irrelevant given the fact that by the time they are hampered by the vram limitation they will already be well beyond the ability to play modern AAA titles. If the 5060 isnt going to be limited by it's 8gb of vram then neither will any of the other cards. They will be obsolete on a architectural, compute and software level before they will be held back by their vram. The 5060 ti is made for ai developers, and the 5070ti is made for content creators that need more vram for video editing.Unless you're doing actual work that can easily fill up vram without needing ecc then these cards aren't the answer to future proofing through vram. In the future you'll most likely be better served upgrading to a cheaper card like whatever the equivalent of a 7050 is going to be then worrying about whether or not a 5070 will be able to run whatever the newest AAA title is in 2032.
what's the "thinkpad" of mice?
>>108357652They make idle operation virtually inaudible. HDD for example noise is fucking annoying, and it also absorbs any imperfections in fan noise. Thicker frames and special acoustic material at minimum should be standard.
>>108357672expensive, shit, chinese, badly made and riding on past models? logishit.
>>108357682There is a reason they never went mainstream, the idea is too retarded even for that
>>108357649Oh well, at least you have a funny experience to laugh about.
>>108357672>>108357683As far as i'm aware there are only two manufacturers of computer mice. Logitech and and razor. Any other brand is just a repackaged razor.>>108357652>"silent" cases are a complete meme.I would expect that the Japanese would be really into silent cases on account of their paper then walls. The fact that they don't seem to give a fuck makes me believe that silent cases are infact a meme.
>>108355679>thinking about selling my 9070XT,retard>>108355836get the 9070 it will do everything a 5080 does betterI hope you jackasses use linux to get 5 bazillion FPS
>>108357682There seems to be a market for audio engineers but only to such an extent that they don't just stick the pc in a different room. Theres a reason why recording studios have "booths".
>>108357663Wtf is this shill bs?Ram used to be cheap. 32gb ddr4 was 45 bucks like 6 months ago.Vram is cheap.The 50xx generation is a fucking ripoff. The 5080 is overpriced and useless. The 70 12gb is a joke. The ti is kinda OK.Everyone was waiting for the super uplifts but they delayed them to dump more of these shitty cards on the market.It wouldn't have cost them anything to put more vram and future proof these cards so more people could get into ai and professional work....But Nvidia want you to buy the 90 gpus for 3k or buy a new gpu every 2 3 years. It's bullshit greed.
>>108357820Then why doesn't the 9070xt have a bagillion gbs of vram?
>>108357672i want to change my comment >>108357683 logishit and razor are on the same level but razor has more spyware and aids software so that would make them hp?. anyways get a good mouse with good software. endgame gear makes great mice with good coatings and they are mod friendly with swappable switches and exposed screws.
Would you a used SSD?I know a guy selling a 98% 4TB EVO for $250 and a 99% 8TB QVO for $400 and I just happened to run out of space.
>>108357836>endgameI've heard good things.https://youtube.com/watch?v=bLOQ2izvGrA&
>>108357876their mice aren't the lightest on the market (because they don't have holes) which i think is goodthey also don't have 8k wireless mice (because they think it's too unreliable) which i think is goodthey have exposed screws so you can take the mouse appart without removing the feet which i think is goodthey have spyware free software which i think is goodthey don't have stupid lgbt lights which i think is goodthey have a simple button to check the battery which i think is goodnothing special but also nothing really to cry about
>>108357831Ayymd is the bottomfeeder. They do as they told by jensen sama.Also Amd is not the ai card, not the workstation gpu, Amd is only gaming and for gaming you are right, 16gb is enough, therefore Nvidia being better at other things and not giving you the vram is a move motivated by greed and customer rape.
>>108357765there are many things that can be done to reduce noise and sound dampening inside the case is probably the least impactful one.
>>108357702>defeat the tar>get the pharaoh's curse instead>wind up defeated by paint costs instead
>>108357919>Nvidia being better at other things and not giving you the vram is a move motivated by greed and customer rape.The people who do other things besides game are all motivated by greed. Why should the people who are motivated by greed be subsidized by nvidia?Just remember that the ai industry isn't a long time consumer of Nvidia products. They might be willing to pay but once theres an alternative to Nvidia the industry will turn around and bargin with Nvidia just like gamers do when they go and get a benchmark and price for amd cards and then turn around and bargain with Nvidia.Microsoft built its xbox brand off of an Nvidia chip then turned around and abandoned them the moment they could.Macintosh built they're modern laptop brand off of Nvidia chips and then turned around and abandoned them the moment they could.Crypto miners built their market off of gpus and then the moment they could they abandoned them.What makes ai companies and datacenters any different?
>>108358072no you don't get it they need these super computers that we don't even have the power infrastructure to use, they're definitely not making their own chips and optimizing their own code.
>>108357962>sound dampening inside the case is probably the least impactful one.The entire idea of sound dampening seems counterproductive to cooling.Turbines aren't known for being quite and a pc case should function like a scaled down ducted turbine.
I put in a couple Pure Wing 3s into my case along with a PS120SE for my 9800x3d and it's a bit louder than I'd like. It's all stock settings and I was wondering if there were any suggestions on what to set my fan curve to. It's all stock right now and I've never really messed with fan speeds before.
>>108358096To minimize noise, you want to keep the CPU cooling fans running below 50 or 60% RPM until the chip reaches 80~85°C.Ramp the CPU fan speed up to 100% past 90°C.Case fans, test how loud they sound at different RPMs like 500, 800, 1000, 1200.You can either set a zero RPM mode until the processor reaches 50°C, or have them constantly run at low speeds like 500-600 RPM until the processor gets hotter.It's about testing the fan noise that's acceptable for daily use, and reserving higher fan RPMs when the components are running hotter.
DLSS and MFG are ways for gpu companies to increase “performance” without actually investing in physical product development or committing vram to their products.
>>108358215never using frame gen unless they can fix the lag it creates. even the ghosting I can cope with, but not the lag.
>>108358215You can stop acting like NVIDIA's the only one pushing these features.Stop buying any new video cards because all GPU designers are promoting it.
to all the subhumans that convinced me to get a 9070XT : you deserve to die
>>108358276you are a subhuman for using windows.
>>108358276You were the one who was convinced the 5070 Ti wasn't worth the premium (and it usually isn't).You were the one who completed the purchase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGmk4QChD4
>>108358280if you ever used AMDogshit you would know that somehow the linux support is worse than windows with even less features>>108358296at least I'll never fall for it ever again
>>108358312>if you ever used AMDogshit you would know that somehow the linux support is worse than windows with even less features
>>108358173Sounds good to me. Thanks bro, I'll fiddle around till it all sounds good.
>>108358276
Itching to buy something. I think I might squander money on an oled monitor. Might go up to 32"....
>>108358276>subhumansit's one person with ten personas
>>108358494Be aware that both LG & Samsung Display plan to release new OLED monitors with true RGB subpixels in the future, starting with ultrawide monitors.>Why start with ultrawides?I'm guessing they don't want these new OLED panels to cannibalize sales of the existing 16:9 OLED monitors.
Will I run into any issues if I install 2x8 and 2x32 ram sticks on the same mobo? ddr4 if it makes a difference
>>108358588The system should be fine as long as the pairing is consistent (ex. 2x32 in A2 and B2, 2x 8 in A1 and B1).It will run at the lowest compatible JEDEC speed if the speeds don't match (ex. if one set is 2133MT/s JEDEC and other is 2666MT/s, system runs at 2133MT/s)
>>108358558>new OLED monitors with true RGB subpixelswhat does this mean?
>>108358616Thanks a lot, bro.>It will run at the lowest compatible JEDEC speed if the speeds don't matchI guess I'll just sell the 8gb sticks then.
>>108358558>4k ultrawidecool.>oledgross.
>>108358628Text will look better on displays with true RGB striped subpixels (no color fringing on text).
>>108358645so they solve the text issue but still have the burn-in issue?
>>108358653Can't completely eliminate burn-in issues, the organic diode decays over time.But it's happening at a slower rate with these newer OLED monitors because they run more power efficiently (less heat is good).Expect around 5~7 years of use depending on how you use the panel (protection features, brightness level, regularity of static content exposure, etc.).Extreme burn in test (panel safety features off)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbEgQrigiLcMore realistic burn in report.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H43wnV-v7V0
>>108358653Those true RGB OLED monitors in 16:9 display aspect ratio won't be out for a while btw.If you want an OLED now, buy one when they're on sale (near all time-low prices).
Is the LG UltraGear 27GR95QE-B good?
>>108358687I think the burn-in is very noticeable but people don't notice it unless they have something to compare it to. plus the way I use my computer I don't want to be interrupted to do these refresh cycles ever. it's like getting the old windows update notification that alt-tabs your game back in the XP era.>>108358705I'm looking for 4k ultrawide. >>108358644 but I'm very resistant to oled.
>>108358718Don't buy it, it's one of the earliest OLED monitors with low maximum brightness.https://www.lg.com/us/press-release/lg-launches-ultragear-gaming-monitors-in-us-worlds-1st-240hz-oled-panelMaybe it's worth it if the price is near $300.
How do i stop myself from getting a 7800X3D, i wanted to wait for nova lake/zen 6 but the tray keeps getting cheaper to the point were i feel like i could get that and just hold it until 2028/2029 in my country now its hitting an all time low of $350 while a 9800x3d is $500 and i think prices for the new gen cpus maybe fucked anyway because of the war
>>108358848Just buy it if it's @ all time low and if you already have the memory & storage sorted out.Sell the CPU when you're lookin to upgrade it.Zen 6 CPUs won't be cheap, AMD's going to allocate more compute chiplets to Epyc CPUs.
>>108358848>the tray keeps getting cheaperMake sure you're buying that tray CPU from a credible seller with proper return & refund policies, because AMD don't handle tray CPU warranties.
>>108357361>>108357368>>108357372>>108357558So I should be fine with a 1000w psu if I plan to get a 5080 or 6080 in the future?
>>108358864>>108358875Even the non tray version is pretty cheap now $410, if next month that drops uner $400 i may as well get that over a $350 tray no?
>>108358894Probably, sometimes the cost difference between the two PSU capacities isn't that big. Below are some relatively affordable & well reviewed 1200W PSUs in the US.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ds8Pxr/montech-century-ii-1200-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-1200whttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/7xHqqs/super-flower-leadex-vii-xg-1300-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-1300f14xghttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/3xmNnQ/super-flower-leadex-vii-platinum-pro-1200-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-1200f14xp
>>108358904$50 extra is worth the official AMD warranty coverage & peace of mind to me.The issue is the RAM and storage if you haven't taken care of them.
waitfags?
>>108358904I also would just pay the $10 ($60 total) extra than try to waitfag over an uncertain $10 savings if this CPU is something you really want.
>>108358920This is good to know. Does gold and platinum make a difference if I just plan to game?
>>108358930Genuine disaster. These fabs are extremely costly to shut down and restart.
>>108358932>Does gold and platinum make a difference if I just plan to game?No, be aware that Super Flower PSU fans are mostly average.Some fan schizoes may not like it.https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluations/psus/2121/
>>108358932https://psutierlist.org/and more autistic versionhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=1078495601#gid=1078495601
>>108358943As long as it does the job.>>108358966Thank you.
>>108358930but will i be able to trade 2x32gb 6000cl30 of ram for a 5080 by the end of this year
>>108359123I should have bought more when I had the chance, but I have decent enough RAM for two more builds.
>>108359123I feel like everything will go crashing down this year
>>108358930>>108358931i have to wait nearly 3 weeks until i get paid to buy it hopefully the price is not too retarded in 3 weeks
>>108359566Get a cheaper CPU or find a different hobby if you need your next paycheck to buy the 7800X3D.Something like a Ryzen 7600 is good enough for most games, the issue is still the DDR5 memory and SSD.GL froggie.
>>108358930I am pumping 1.6v vdd into my hynix m die to run it at cl26 for no real reason waitfags crying and pissing while my ram is pumping voltage and if it dies I will use just use my warrenty to replace it
>>108355463Running 3.2 GHz effective clock @ 0.995V looks like a win, but I don't own an RTX 5080 to know for sure.Temps are good for a Furmark load.Furmark is only good at testing the cooler because the card won't sustain maximum boost clock under that rendering load.Something like Unigine Superposition 1080p Extreme or 8K Optimized is a better benchmark that sustains maximum boost clock.If you have 3DMark, Speedway (RT) and Steel Nomad (4K raster) are good tests.The DLSS feature test in 3DMark is useful for validating OC + UV stability because it stresses the entire chip (Raster: compute cores, RT: RT cores, DLSS & FG: tensor cores).
>>108359631>I will use just use my warrenty to replace itYou realize these memory manufacturers run out of RMA inventories (or pretend to) and will only offer you a refund of the original purchase price (not its current market price).
>>108359679then i will harass them until i get my way the law is on my side
>>108359688>the law is on my sideRead the full terms of the warranty, including the exclusions.
>>108359688If you think the kit manufacturers can't tell you've juiced the voltages to 1.6V, the PMIC in these DDR5 memory kits have a multi-time programmable (MTP) non-volatile memory.The kit manufacturers can use factory tools to read the peak recorded values for both voltage and temperature.They will be running these checks on all RMA'd memory kits in this environment.
What's a super common cheap GPU nowadays?I want to make a list of video games that run at max settings on weak GPUs and still look really good, to help people in this fucked up economy to discover games that work well on their computers
is there no way around water cooling if you dual gpu
>>108359895maybe dual chamber case + riser cable to put your 2nd gpu in its own enclosed space?or 3d printed air scoops to funnel intake air directly to each gpu and to direct exhaust air directly out of the case
>>108359895The efficiency gains are insane with custom water cooling the GPUs.Waterblocked 2x 5090 FE cards can run a Blender render at full tilt while drawing only 400W per card.>>108359890I’m guessing it’s the 3060 or 6600 XT tier of cards.
>>1083598905050 5060 9060XT
>clean the dust>pc is now louder and probably hotterI swear some dust ended up in some uncleanable crevices inside the gpu
>>108360017>thermal paste dried out>clean it>motherboard near CPU is now coil whining when I move my mouse cursor
>9800x3d all time low>free crimson desert keytempting, even though im sitting with 7800
>>108360057the game is only going to be $60 if you have to buy it on launch.
>>108360057same, I think that I should really be picking a 9800x3d up considering now that events around the world may make the next cpu gen launch a logistical nightmare and there will probably be a supply shock for them.I currently have a 5800x3d and still on am4 but now probably should be a wise time to upgrade and just eat up the ram price cost.
>>108360057yeah what about RAM
>>108360190has also come down a bit in price
>>108360218so how much is it.I was on a verge of upgrading entire system but just once glance at prices made that intention disappear.
>>108360248they have come down around 20% since the highs I believe. they're still up like 600% compared to this time last year but lol.
>>108360093>buying single player games>in the current year
>converting to USD for simplicity sakeConsidering selling my 7800x3d for 300 bucks (retail price is 400 currently) and buying the 9850x3d for 500. Is it retarded or should I do it?>1440p gaymer>rtx 5080
>>108360547Are you CPU bottle necked somehow or do you want to upgrade for the sake of upgrading?
>>108360547anything under 4k and you should really be attempting to use the best cpu possible for gaming
>>108360557The latter, mostly. Kinda wanna buy a new cpu and not think about computer parts for the next 5+ years
>>108360577If you have the money just go for it. It's a more reasonable upgrade than 9800x3d to 9850x3d but I doubt it's necessary for most games.
>>108360547With a 5080 at 1440p yeah you should probably get the better CPU. Even more so if you play any gaysports like CS or Valorant or whatever.If you were at 4K and only played AAA games at Ultra+PT @ 60 FPS for cinematic immersion, then absolutely fucking not.
Are there any cases for big components (4 Slot x 360mm wide GPU + 185mm tall CPU cooler) safe to put directly on carpet?Alternatively, how bad would it be to put a case that relies on bottom-intake for PSU only onto carpet? eg. Fractal Torrent/Meshify 3 XL or HAVN BF360.Because it seems like I either find something like that, or I have to shell out big bucks for a Silverstone Crown 04.
>>108360646Put a wooden board under it. Makes it easier to drag it around on the carpet and it's easier to clean.
>>108360646>Silverstone Crown 04Why are you trying to stick a hometheatre pc case on the floor?
>>108360547if you're gaming at 1440p there is no reason to do this, unless you play tarkov
>>108360698It has the required internal space to fit all the parts I need it too, but is also a couple cm too tall to fit inside my TV unit.Yeah it'd look weird on the floor, but no one makes a case to fit a 185mm cooler and is less than 220mm wide (not even server cases, what Id need is 4.5U which isn't a thing).>>108360678Thanks. That's something I did consider, but I thought it might look untidy; you're probably right that it's the best option though.
>>108360547just wait it out you will stop craving it after a few days. i would be shocked if you noticed any fps improvement dont fall for any marketing, at least wait for zen 6
>>108360547>>1083605779850x3d is an extremely incremental upgrade over the 7800x3d. Only get it if you enjoy overclocking IMO
This is a very good thread.
>>108357250it's like seven pages + a few sub menus
>>108360818good luck overclocking an already binned and overclocked cpu, 99% of 9800x3ds cant do a 400 mhz pbo clock boost wtf are you gonna squeeze out of a 9850x3d
>>108360973delusional. the average 9800x3d is SP112 which doesn't even do +150mhz without throttling let alone +400mhz
>>108358687>My OLED burn-in after 3000hrsthat doesn't tell me anything...my main LCD has 23000 hours and it's not even that old
I summon the butyl noctua anon to share info on the type and thickness of sheets this case was slathered in, and the means of adhering/attaching them to the panels.
>>108361022oled is planned obsolescence tech where you are expected to replace it after 3 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO7qs7s5GbA
>>108358687>>108361022>>108361033bought a display a few months ago (6 months or so). i am already sitting at 4.2k hours.
1 more year of these fucked up prices, right? I'll finally be able to upgrade my rig in 2027
>>108361050lol
>>108361050its just 300+ extra for ram and a couple hundred extra for the good gpu you wantother parts are not unusually expensive, besides ssds obviously
>Ampere from 2018 will support DLSS 5>RDNA4 from 2025 won't support FSR 5What is the usecase for shitMD garbage these days outside of Loonix? I ask this as a Loonix shitMD user. If Linux support wasn't so bad I'd jump on nvidia without a moment of hesitation but alas nshitia hates Linux. I cannot comprehend Windows users subjecting themselves to AMD products.
>>108361061those 3 parts alone cost $2k+...
>>108361064dlss transformer model is only viable on 40xx and 50xx gpusframe gen 1x is exclusive to 40xxadaptive 6x is exclusive to 50xx
>>108361033I have the first gen qd-oled bought the moment they were available and i have no visible burn inno hiding the taskbar or any of that just using it like any other display ive had
>>108361070>dlss transformer model is only viable on 40xx and 50xx gpusat least it's available, AMD could do the same about FSR4 on RDNA2, yet they just refuse to officially release it, even at a cucked lesser state like the unofficial port
>>108361075the trend is pretty set that the features you get at launch is the features you end up with
>>108361070I actually made a mistake in my post, I meant Turing not Ampere. However the year is correct. Makes the point even stronger. Anyway what the fuck are you talking about? Transformer model is available on Turing cards it's just not as performant as it is on later gens. Framegen point is true, optical flow engine isn't fast enough for framegen on Ampere and earlier. That's an nvidia L.
>>108356145>games that don't require a 9070xt, 5070ti, 5080, or 5090, to reach that FPS.>>108355906>what game needs to run at 180fpsI don't get it what's the point, this is fucking gay
>>108361064getting scammed, maybethe weird thing is that intel battlemage hasnt been left behind nearly as fast as amd's rdna4 so amd has no excuse.
>>108361075It's viable on Turing and Ampere, the performance hit is just higher but not so high it's useless. For games that make heavy use of RT, you'll get better image quality when using native lower res and transformer model over higher native res and previous DLSS model. FSR4 has a much higher performance penalty on RDNA3 and people who hack it in still use it over the unusable dogshit that is FSR3. AMD users with cream themselves over the thought of using DLSS4 with the same % penalty as Turing users have with transformer model.
>>108361035>WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
>>108361093If Intel could scale 18A to dies the size a desktop GPU needs, AMD would be fucked if we go by Panther Lake numbers.
>>108361102Isn't this just true in general of the DLSS models? CNN at Quality looks worse than Transformer (4.5) at Performance, at a 1440p target. Like, to my eyes, the default DLSS3 of Oblivion Remastered looks barely better than FSR, while upgrading it to 4.5 in the drivers makes it looks and run great even at Performance preset.
What's a good price for used 64gb ddr4 in your opinion? I'm finding some offers on ebay for $150
now that we live in the future in reality all RT cores that gpus have had have been useless until a viable threshold was reached4090, 5070, 5070 ti are first genuine "rt" cards in existence thanks to either raw power or the dlss techniques creating viability for PT gaming, you can play at comfy fps and smoothnesyou have a couple more path traced games now too, in the past you had cp and uhhh, portal rtx
>>108361126>you have a couple more path traced games now tooall of them are mid
>>108361126>4090, 5070nice meme
>>108361126I genuinely don't care about Path Tracing, at least not yet. Regular RT already solves some of the biggest problems I've had with video game graphics like dynamic lighting and screenspace reflections.The 5070 absolutely can do regular RT and that's great.
>>108361136lets say you have a 1440p monitor, you lower the dlss factor to performancethanks to the transformer model you get decent image quality and so on
I boughted an original Dark Base 900 in mint condition with original fans and accessories for the price of a new Pure Base 600 (about 100 dollars), how badly did I fuck up?
>>108355419i specifically love the door because i need the disc drive so rarely that i prefer it hidden most of the time.
>>108360547retarded
>>108361165you forgot MFG5070 with 6x MFG = 1.5x 4090
fsr 4.0 on 6000 seriesnvidia bois on suicide watchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trn4p04w5nI
>>108361184It fucks you up if you want to use front panel card readers and USB devices, no?
>>108361221don't the SD-cards just fully embed themselves inside, allowing you still to close the door? maybe if you have one of those older large format DSLR cards. anyway the case already has USB ports on top and i wouldnt want to permanently plug in anything sticking out horizontally out of the case case anyway. just plug your shit in, transfer the files and be done with it. the door doesnt have to stay open for very long or that often.
>>108361212>>108360818>>108360807Hmm maybe I wait for zen 6.. will think about it
>>108361064They're hiring for Linux driver work. AMD-5% will be pushed out of Linux too soon enough inshallah.
the core ultra 7 270k at $300 will force amd to finally release a 9700x3d. expect it in the next month or two.
>>108361310estrogen enjoyers werent buying amd to begin with
>>108361310I just want $200 or less 265ks.
I bought a new samsung T7 SSD and it contains a file called "RootCA.crt", which windows calls a "security sertificate". I googled this and it seems it has to do with html SSL security stuff. why does a SSD need this shit?
>>108361416hypothetically secure firmware updates on a drive that may not be connected to an operating system that has its own new/valid/any certs
i am only going to buy kioxia drives from now on
>>108361165>4k dlss quality.Well thats just 1440p, isn't it?
Im glad to tell y'all this /pcbg/ thread had the lowest jamboy participation numbers of the past 3 years. That must mean something incredibly positive, right?
>>108361476kill yourself
>>1083610374200 hours / 182.5 days (half a year) = 23.01 hours of use per day.
>>108361479lowest numbers but unfortunately not zero, as this jamboy fella demonstrated. Gentleman! Excuse me, next time I will do better! We will reach ZERO jamboy replies, this year, I promise you that!
I will never buy second hand PC parts from eBay ever again, this is a fucking shit show of retarded mongrels.>Won a bid for a PC case>Seller wasn't happy with the price and just cancelled the order and re-listed it>Buy RAM from someone>Never sends it, sends me "hahaha" in messages>Buy some other RAM, says "i've tested it" in the description>One of the sticks is clearly damaged and scuffed whereas the other is pristine>Scuffed one won't even boot into bios but the RGB lights turn onWhy do the worst members of society with actual brain damage ebay PC parts
>>108361126that threshold will get lower the moment we get a RR model for DLSS 4.5, personally i think with DLSS 5.0 even 60 class card will be running PT the question is how heavy will it be but i can easily see a 6060 and even a 5060 TI getting 60 fpsat 1440p on pathtracing titles with an agressive enough DLSS factor as long as the models dont get noticeable heavier to run
>>108357237how about you stop posting forever, hey retard? it'd be nice to not have to be exposed to your dumb-fuck corporate dicksucking takes anymore, i think i would be a million dollars you've never made a single post worth reading in your life.>>108361546did you get your money back from both sellers? you should have. Also the fake seller is based.Also sellers cancelling auctions creates penalties to their accounts, they're not supposed to do it.
>>108361546There's probably a big overlap of people that need the money enough to bother with the hassle of selling old parts overlapping with idiots, scammers, and retardsBut that's half me coping with a closet full of old hardware I'm too lazy to do anything with
>>108361505i guess it counts sleep time as well since it is not an oled.
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>>108361679vram ran out.
Real next thread with subject line>>108361738>>108361738>>108361738
>108361666oh no, the numbers, this person is evil. dont visit his thread, its cursed.>>108361679>>no titleand look at the trips he got. this is a bad-bad omen.im like 99% sure that autistic op is posessed by a demon.
