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>>108409778poo on the 'log
core ultra more like ultra cope
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>>108409797radeon? more like gaydeon lol
>>108409797Holy shit fuck off
Reva just got fasterhttps://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-26-3-1.html
>>108409797>tfw my ultra cope 7 169ack only lasts 4 hours on battery life
god bless israel, trump and the USA
>>108409827Do you jerk off with your CPU or something?
>>108409839based fuck chinks
>intel ultra 245k>16gb ddr5 ram>4080after months of searching on marketplace and negotiating HARD, i managed to get all these for $980. BUT, the card won't fit in my case, so now I have to buy a new case. the search never ends.
>>108409870>caseJust get a cardboard box
>>108409870forgot to mention the 245k came with the mobo
I love my 5090 an OLED.
>>108409898
>>108409812Yeah, I'm just trying to migrate my old PC to a new, smaller case to banish it to the living room as a HTPC, so ATX is needed.
>>108409909
>>108409913maybe a jonsbo u4plus then
aparently fsr 4.1 has sony's work in it and it's a collab with pssr 2AMD somehow crafted an ecosystem where it'll have microsoft tweaking the OS for it's gpu and will also steal sony's work for drivers/upscaling
I want to build a pc, but I don't wanna pay 400+ for ram. When are prices expected to drop? This shit is so retarded
>>108409955we don't know
>>108409870anon, that's a horrible deal. you should've just built DDR4.
>>108409955it's only a 200 bux bump.
>>108409965you can barely get a 4080 alone for under $800 lol
>>108409965The 4080 goes for 800-900 alone. It seems like a good deal to me. It's a but light on RAM but whatever.
>>108409978use linux, 16gb ram is totally fine on it, it's microslop that needs more than that
>>108409976>>108409978you could've gotten a 3090 for around that price which has substantially more VRAM. You will absolutely hate yourself for not having more RAM in general.
>>108409955just buy a used 1x16 from ebay and buy another later>but they wont be compatibledoesnt matter they will still run at the standard JEDEC speed of 4800/5200 when combined>but there is a performance loss with single sticknegligible and you wont notice it unless you are heavily cpu bottlenecked anyway which i doubt you will be
>>108409978dont listen to the chuds, the 4080 is a great card
>>108409986usecase for more than 8gb vram? do not reply with ai unless you want to be laughed at
>>108409986Unless you are doing AI shit a 4080 is a far better card for games. An the anon bought basically an entire working system for 4080 cash.
Chinesium scams aside, are these thin rigid foil cables as good as normal inflexible rubber ones?
>>108409965no
>>108409993playing games on screenshot settings.
whats the verdict on fsr 4.1? did anyone make an analysis yet or comparison on twitter
Did an all-AMD build, definitely liking the 9070XT for gaming.I want one of those stupid gamer tablet PCs with the AI Max, but I'm afraid it won't give me the full 1440p 175Hz experience
I still only play games at native, upscaling makes everything look wet, but most people seem to have weak eyes and can't notice it
>>108410113@4k?
>>1084101321440p ultrawide
>>108410084>verdict on fsr 4.1
>>108410145>דְיוֹנוֹן.gif
Is there like a Pepe repository? A "Pepebooru" if you will.Edit: holy crap, there is
Any good places to find a thinkcentre? I am building my homeland, kinda looking for cheap ones to use.
>>108410192don't bother with the lenovo tax. fujitsu or dell is usually cheaper and better.
>>108410192*homelabAuto correct, sorry.>>108410207Dell is better? How so? Btw this is all running on Linux.
>>108410192Ebay is decent. In europe it's mostly german sellers, but that's fine.
>new 5800x3d listing>current bid is triple the starting price and it's only been 5 hoursHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>108410257Just buy a 9850x3d.
>>108410267>upgrading to am5 in 2026lole
AMD bros : Refute this without resorting to retard tier arguments like "muh chinese"
>>108410277prob going to get better cpus than anything that intel can muster in the future.>>108410280goycattle has windows and tiktok on their pc's
>>108410257Just a 12900k or something at this point if you're still on am4 without an x3d. Jesus>>108410286>prob going to get better cpus than anything that intel can muster in the future.Delusion
>>108410267The RAM would financially ruin me.
>>108410286>>108410295Dude it's not the CPUs. I'm not paying hundreds of dollars for 2 sticks of ddr5 ram...
>>108410295x3d cpus are already better than anything from intel and a 12 core x3d chip would make intel redundant as a company since you would have 6c, 8c and 12c x3d chips.
>>108410296Microcenter?
>>108410383im in canada
>>108410280not every Steam user is chosen to participate.
>>108410280There is nothing to refute in this image. It's just a list of cards.
>>108410280i've got an nvidia card and those results are still fucked no matter how you look at it, the jumps are just too big. they either fixed something last month or broke it, we'll see once the next survey comes out.
how do you get nvidia app to record/screenshot desktopit just doesnt react at all
>>108410463do you have the overlay enabled?
>>108410481ye if I click on it to screenshot ingame it works but on desktop no
>>108410280The 9070 XT and the standard 5070 are the same price in my country. I’m on the verge of upgrading and as much as I want to buy the 9070xt because it is much better than the 5070 on paper and seems like the more reasonable choice, it looks like AMD users are not very happy with their cards compared to Nvidia ones. I do not know what to do desu. I was really going to pull the trigger on the 9070xt.
>>1084106025070 is fine but 5070 ti is even better
>>108410602the 5070 is a good 60 class gpu if you don't value a good gaming experience or linux
>>108410602My 4060Ti shat itself so I bought a 9070XT after the extended warranty refunded me. Its been great, no complaints, can't imagine settling for a 5070
>>108410630I missed a flash sale yesterday so if I buy that card now I would feel extremely ripped off.
>>108410454>i've got an nvidia cardNo you don't.
Is it bad for WD Black to run at at a constant 40+ degrees for extended periods?
>>108410602Imo the only valid reason for getting a 9070xt is if you daily linux
>>108410280what this fag doesn't show
>>108410602you should buy an 8GB or 16GB GPU.
>>108410280>>108410673It's settled. High iq correlates with preferring Nvidia GPUs
>>108409778So I bought one of these guys from BHPhotovideo a while ago to potentially replace an old laptop's drive:https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1790020-REG/wd_wd10spsx_spa6wt0_wd_black_perfomance_mobile.htmlHowever, I'm still testing the laptop to see if it's worth trying to salvage, and the return period is ending tomorrow. Would I be able to resell this drive easily for roughly its original cost on ebay or something? I've never done that before. I bought it because WD is out of its stock for 2026 and I assumed that I wouldn't be able to get this later this year.Should I just return it and hope it becomes available later when I need it, or should I keep it and try to sell it later? I'm in the US.
>>108410681>high iq>copy everythingyeah right
>>108410463doing a remove program and reinstall nvidia app worked
>>108410257am4 the goat
Why are case fans $30+? It's just a fucking fan
>>108410764You can buy cheap case fans. If you're looking at something like Noctua fans and expecting them to be cheap, that's your own fault.
Still looking for answers on thisI want to make a RAID system for myself I can if necessary also connect to a network. Primary use would be photos and videos for my photography stuff and backups of my phone, email and cloud storage. My old solution,a single 3TB harddrive failed me.I am looking at getting 2-4TB overall storage so something like a 3+2 system would suffice.Ideally, it would be connected to my PC via USB3 so I can switch between my PC and my Laptop via a switch. I use Linux on both.What would be a good one to get? I can get the HDDs myself.
>>108410661yes, i do
odds and i panic buy a spare gpudoubles and i panic buy spare ramtriples and i panic buy spare motherboard and cpu
>>108411104Guess you're waiting. Have fun when prices double again in 6 months.
>>108411109inshallah my last 3 gpus didnt fail this one shall not either
>>108409778>GPU>Yall can't behaveSeriously, the tribalism for brands here is retarded. It's easy to write it off as paid shilling, but it's more likely just sunken cost fallacies from people justifying their GPU purchases in trying times. Upgrading your GPU at all right now without an exceptionally good discount is questionable, and thus the natural coping mechanism in /pcbg/ from people paying more than they otherwise would is endless fanboy warring removed from any price/performance discussion. None of these companies are your friends and all of them are involved in shady shit, and you shouldn't trust any of them to definitively provide the best products at any given time; I've bought both NVIDIA and AMD cards over the years, and this year I probably would have bought a B780 if it didn't get cancelled. /pcbg/ is meant to be a resource to optimise your spending, yet it's devolved into a dick measuring contest for fanboys turning their purchases into secular religions.
>>1084106305070ti is fine but an rtx6000 is even better.
>>108411157>Seriously, the tribalism for brands here is retarded.
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>>108409839>Intel CPU & GPU>Patriot SSDRespect.
>>108410602If they're both the same price in your country then I have to assume that GPU's are just prohibitively expensive in your country. I wouldn't be in a hurry to upgrade if I were you.
my gpu is over 5y old and I cant use anything outside of dlss cnn model atm but I cant help but feel buying amd gpus would be mega depressingevery 6 months there some new revolution nvidia announces and they sit there with their brand new amd card hoping more than 2 games get full amd ml featureset, and that maybe amd comes with an alternative to nvidias proprietary tech 2-3 years later down the line which requires buying a new gpu since no new feature ever comes to older gensAt least I can console myself that I didnt spend 700€ on amd hardware.
>>108409954AMD, Sony, and Microsoft are all splitting the R&D for these AI trained graphics rendering tech.NVIDIA's gaming revenue alone can match AMD's client CPU (Ryzen & Threadrippers) + GPU (Radeon & Pro) sales.I'm guessing Microsoft will ask more NPU for their next gen console, but it will have the same Neural Array & Radiance Cores (Tensor & RT core equivalents) architecture in PS6 & RDNA5.>>108410602You should get the 9070 XT over the 5070 if they're priced the same, assuming it's around US $700.This is assuming you're happy with the existing FSR / Amethyst feature set.9070 XT has a noticeably better native performance, FSR4 should get a few more updates.Treat future tech like FSR5 as a bonus, not a guarantee (prepare for the worst).Last advice also applies to NVIDIA cards, like RTX 40 not getting multi-frame generation support.
>>108410969Try asking in home server general /hsg/ >>108354801
6080 wen?
>>108411266at this rate never and all consumers get ever again is APUs
>>108411266nvidia has the new chip designs for tsmc 2nm in the works now but theres little point to release anything when the AI demand distorts markets so heavily
>>108411230You need to decide whether the NVIDIA premium is worth the money.Stuff like DLSS5 will probably not run well on cards below the 5070 Ti, and I'm being optimistic (5090 is the more realistic cutoff).It took a decent amount of time to run path tracing on more affordable GeForce cards.They revealed path tracing with Quake II RTX in 2019, and Cyberpunk Overdrive (PT) debuted in 2023.DLSS5 will take time to get game developer adoption for new titles. This might be supported in Witcher 4 and maybe GTA6.By that time, you might be buying a better video card anyway (if they're affordable).Right now the NVIDIA premium is too high.It's only justified if this is truly the last generation to buy relatively affordable gaming video cards.
>>108411230idk what you're talking about bro the only technology I've used that any GPU manufacturer has come up with is upscaling and if you're using anything but upscaling you don't actually play games.
>>108411251pretty sure NPU is dead tech. didn't they reveal the specs of Helix already?
>>108411324>pretty sure NPU is dead techThey're in Ryzen AI SoCs, and it was mentioned in the leaked Microsoft court documents.Maybe things changed, but I think MS would want to push Copilot crap & maybe some ChatGPT assistant on Xbox.
>>108410969Are you looking for a prebuilt system? Synology are usually the go to, but you will save money just building it yourself as you would a normal PC. It doesn't have to be anything special, just use normal consumer parts. As for the OS, the noob choice is Unraid. It will work and be easy, but you have to pay. Another somewhat noob option is OpenMediaVault. If you want to not be a noob you can look into TrueNAS, Proxmox, or just plain Debian/Ubuntu with ZFS or normal mdadm. Though this will require a lot of learning. Do your research if deciding to go with BTRFS.If you're looking for something quick and easy, just get a Synology. Do a bit pf research first though. They had some controversy over forcing their own proprietary drives into their machines, but I think they walked it back.
>>108410023perhaps
>>108411343but the NPU isn't used by anything.
>>108410023I haven't used such a skinny sata cable, but I have some of those super thin ethernet cables from Monoprice.The specs say they use 32awg wire, which is .0079" / 0.2mm. I was kind of skeptical, but they work fine.
>>108410280Half of those GPUs? Smuggled into china by this guy.
>>108409814hows reva in wenn
>>108410662
>>108411413It could be used for local inferencing to talk to the console, it watches your screen in real time and could answer contextual questions (how do i beat this boss?), handle background noise cancellation when you use voice chat, clip highlight reels, etc.I'm not saying these features will work well, but that's what the execs are hoping for.NVIDIA was shilling some of these AI features, called G Assist.https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/g-assist-ai-companion-for-rtx-ai-pcs/https://www.xbox.com/en-US/gaming-copilot
>>108411469legendary poster this guy https://x.com/ns123abc/status/2034788101491425570?s=46
>>108411469> SupermicroI had a picrel server board from Supermicro. With 2x Pentium II Deschutes @350MHz.
>>108411266
>>108410764you need oil to make plastics
>>108411266Don't be surprised if it costs nearly $2,000.
>>108411266The AITX 6080 will launch in 2028
>>10841146930 years for $500M is a worthwhile trade
>>108411157>None of these companies are your friends and all of them are involved in shady shit, and you shouldn't trust any of themI don't trust Asians
>He's overclocking the CPU, DRAM, GPU, & VRAM in this economy.>With the video card's power limit maxxed out.
>>108409778fyi>>108411349
>>108411641>Price not confirmed.All you needed to read.
>>108411646Why? It releases this month.
>>108411640I lower the power to minimum and max the fans lol
>>108411655They won't be cheap, the B60 with 24GB VRAM costs $650.
>>108411669What % of the price is vram?
>>108411695>>108411669used an llm.So I would estimate the cards will be close to $800, what do you think, does this sound correct?24 + 8 = 32.so it's not that much more vram, and I don't think it's faster vram.
>>108411641>>108411669>>108411695Sounds just competitive enough for nobody to care.
>>108411640i do this
>>108411524I hope you enjoy your complimentary chinese backdoor.>B-b-but, made in USA??Yes that’s was the scam retard, get pranked.
>>108411862usa backdoor, china backdoor, same shit
>>108411773It could be competitive. People are dishing out eye watering amounts for mac studio. if the b65 hits at $800, then 4 cards of b65 = 128gb for $3200.Add $550 for the computer (like a jerry rigged mining rig) and you have $3750 total. This is with 128gb of vram for the llm.compare:>Apple Mac Studio M4 Max - 16 core CPU, 40 core GPU, 128 GB RAM, 2 TB - Pre-Owned>$4,999.99
>>108411882not really. WHEN china decides to join iran attacking the West, then boom it will matter.
>>108411556He won’t be able to cash any of that out tho.
>>108411891Why will it matter then?
>>108411641Intel has really bad drivers and a large CPU overhead. which is weird because their APUs work fine.
>>108411862what's the use case for a backdoor?
>>108411891your days are numbered rabbi
>>108411912us/israel will start activating their backdoors to report you to the authorities to be waterboarded if they suspect that you are a china spy
>>108411928is remote desktop wingman if something actually needs to be done usually theres no niced tasks
>>108411973so they will use their super powerful ai datacenters to hijack my 5050?
BE AFRAID OF CHINA GOYIM, YOU MUST BE AFRAID OF CHINA
>we live in a timeline where Intel is the cope option for CPU
Oh no, China/Israel/the NSA will see all the definitely all sfw and wholesome and not lewd ai slop ive been local genning of this cute little catboy. It's over... They're going to confiscate my 5080...
>>108412052more like you pay for electricity and chink / dutch / german router is datacentretelewell went under
>>108412151not everyone play and stream whatever that visual novel game is
>they are still releasing new AM4 motherboards
>>108412243This is why it will never make financial sense for me to upgrade my 3700x.
>>108411912Best case, you're bricked. This is why I shut my pc down when afk (when possible, obviously). It reduces my vulnerability.
>>108411921you mean when gaming, or when running llms using uh.... I'll look it up... OneAPI?
>>108411928So de man don't catch you wid his woman.
Today I realized, no matter what PC you have, you can't avoid stutters in games. If you are looking for buttery smooth gameplay, only consoles can proved that, because games are meant to run on those fixed hardware. You can have a 4090 and the fastest X3D CPU, but the micro stutters due to shader compilation and other stuff will always be there. I don't have a 4090 though.
>>108412459Is this true chat? Do consoles not have stutters, at all?
>mobo + 7800X3D + 32 GB 6000 MT/s memory = 870€And that's with a combo package that's 55€ off. Grim.Well, I told my friends to upgrade last year, they'll just have to manage with their shitboxes or pay, not my problem.
>>108412459>no matter what PC you have, you can't avoid stutters in gamesProton doesn't have traversal stutter.
>>108412463Yes, because when you download or install a game, it also comes with the shaders already pre-compiled and it doesn't have to regenerate them again, so you just enjoy the smooth gameplay.>>108412476How's that?
>>108412459>he thinks consoles don't stutter
>>108412459I play a lotta games without stutters on linuxMy problem is specific games like cyberpunk where there's noticeable input lag under 100fps
>>108412497>cyberpunkDo you have autism?
>>108412483okay I'm not saying they don't stutter, like, at all, but it has still less than any other modern computer. These machines were meant for one purpose: running games. I wish I could just download shaders from the internet or pre-compile them somehow, I would even wait hours, so I can enjoy everything without any stutter.
>>108412500Do you look at slop like CP2077 and think "yep, this is for autistic people"?
>>108412480>How's that?Apart from Vulkan just being faster, Proton also pre-caches shaders before launching the game for the first time.
>>108412459the best way to kill stutters is to tighten your memory timings
>>108412515I though pre-caching is a game feature.>>108412517It might reduce the duration of micro stutters, but won't eliminate them sadly.
>>108412529>I though pre-caching is a game featureMost games don't do it because they want to advertise smaller install sizes
>>108412531pff, can't wait for shaderless games in the future.
I still believe in the 7800x3d on am4, waiting for Q1 results to be pitiful so they are forced to sell us things we ACTUALLY WANT instead of selling us more slop cpus like 9850x3d 9750x etc
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-confirms-dlss-5-uses-a-2d-frame-plus-motion-vectors-as-inputconfirmed dlss5 is ai slop hallucination instead of actual upscaling of resolution, they shouldn't even have called it dlss is entirely a new thing, pure enshittification of gpu graphicsnjeetidiots should push back on this and demand them to work on the current dlss instead and call the ai slop yassify filter something else instead
>>108412598It's not happening, Timmy...
>>108412598never happening, AMD abandoned the socket 4 years ago
>>108411157Brand war autism is something that plagues every inch of this site. It's like the console war autism that poisons so many discussions.
>>108412598you can already run a 7800x3d if you just buy a compatible mb and ramno need to puff copium for things that will never happen
>>108412775>if you just buy a compatible mb and ram>ramand this is where the problem starts.
>>108412783$400 for 32gb ram sucks, sure, but its easily doable if you have even a minimum wage job
>>108412790you can just throw your money down the toilet instead like a retarded goy
>>108412790>bro just be americanlmaooooo
what software do u recommend to clone a new boot drive?
u guys know if these things also have those signature switches that break after a year of use?
>>108412836Acronis always worked for me.
>>108412868Dunno, but that 125hz polling is an instant hell no to me.
>>108412882o yea i wouldn't dream of using this on my desktop, was more aiming it on my laptops for google earth use
>>108412868They usually doMy recommendation is to go on aliexpress and preemptively just look for a board with hotswap sockets for switches (I got one for my G502X). That way you can have any switches you want.
>>108409778Crimson Desert flopped btw.
>>108412868have several for years, never once had a switch break
I want a cheap PC just for torrenting and I found this prebuilt on some shady easter Europe site. Is this good enough?CPU: i5-4440GPU: Intel HD Graphics 4600RAM: 8 GB DDR3SSD: 256 GB
>>108412951Does the refurbished optipex not exist over there?
>>108412911tell me more
>>108413024Big brands are too expensive here.
>>108412951Just connect a Raspberry Pi or any other SBC to a DAS enclosure. Making a seedbox from desktop hardware only makes sense if you've got most parts already liying around.
>>108413048Old optipex are nearly free here, but lately the RAM is getting stripped.
>rearrange desk setup after putting it off for quite some time>back ends up hurting like a bitch>had to lie down and nap it off all afternoon>mfw
