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OpenAI is going to self-destruct, they killed Sora, threw shots at Microsoft out of nowhere and now Disney cancelled their deal with them. It's starting, the AI bubble is going to pop.
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https://videocardz.com/newz/sonys-new-pssr-shares-fsr-upscaling-roots-but-uses-an-int8-implementation
when will those jews release pssr 2 for rdna2 and rdna3 cards?
it's obviously already finished
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FSR 4.1 > DLSS 4.5
FSR ML FG > DLSS FG
FSR Ray Regeneration > DLSS Ray Reconstruction
FSR Radiance Caching > RTX Neural Radiance Cache
Crimson Desert > RE9 Requiem
Nvidiot cope below
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>>108446719
>9800X3D
obsolete, what you want is a 270k
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>>108446719
looks like a man and has short legs
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>>108446738
fuck off, coomer
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>>108446738
U'RE GAY
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>>108446746
it's the other way around. if you coom too much you start liking men like the one you posted >>108446719
>>108446747
>
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>>108446726
>you want is a 270k
anon
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>>108446547
>nicotroon
kys
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>>108446775
still better (and cheaper) than the 285k that someone used in a build recently
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>>108446775
>You don't understand sarr!!
>You can't only use your pc for gaming like 90% of people sarr!!!
>You need to run cinebench all day and circle jerk over your scores with the dalits on r/intel and r/India you bloody benchod!!!
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what settings are we running 9070xt bros?
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>>108446847
daily? 2700mhz -50
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>>108446851
can run like -120 for 3dmark nomad (20x loop) but -75 is the limit for warthunder and cs2. always daily.
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>>108446830
it's "saar" btw
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>>108446847
I started on 2700mhz mem and -80 that many guides suggested as a starting point but after a long time and lots of play testing I've settled on -60 and 2650 on memory. -70 was almost stable but every once in a blue moon would crash randomly after running a game for 8+ hours. Put mem to 2650 just to be safe as well and with +10% power limit I'm still getting between around 6% better than stock performance.
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>>108446868
I've noticed that multiplayer games seem to be much more sensitive to OC and prone to crashing with it. My settings >>108446912 here are 100% stable on single player shit but on BF6 I think I crashed only with -40 even so I just have it turned off now and run stock for any multiplayer game
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>>108446912
I get a very occasional crash playing poe1 at -50, -45 would probably be the true stable for me
as for mem clock, insane bins can go to 2900mhz, good cards do 2800mhz, everyone should be able to be stable at 2700mhz
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>>108446945
>I've noticed that multiplayer games seem to be much more sensitive
reminds me of getting getting kicked by vac when i overclocked my 3700x for the first time. i thought my memory was defective but it was just an unstable cpu but not enough to crash my system.
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>>108446547
Since when have we allowed third world dogs to make threads?
If you can't afford a GPU, you shouldn't even be allowed to use the internet, period.
Enjoy your outdated drivers, amdoofies
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>>108446912
>>108446945
>>108446956
some suggest running nomad, speed way, and time spy extreme to get a better picture of stability with an undervolt.
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So are the 5070 and other 12gb gpus gonna be cooked at 1440p after the next generations consoles are out early next year?
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>>108447358
yes, buy only 16gb cards
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>>108447358
>next generations consoles are out early next year?
lol

But look at how 8gb card are still usable and 6gb nearly is.
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>>108446576
Just in time for israel to start a war with iran and drive energy and polymer prices in asia up! Perfect!
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Bro is gonna give me his 4k mini led monitor, I'm currently using r5 5600/3060 8GB , 1080p monitor, 650w seasonic psu. Is there a upgrade path for gaming or should I just get ps5 pro? EU, budget 1k€
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>>108447651
set the resolution to 1080p
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>>108447651
depends if you want to play at 4k, if yes then get a used 3090 and a good psu, at 4k you'll be limited by the gpu so the 5600 will cope just fine, if no just >>108447659
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>want kvm monitor with two display ports
>look at one of the gigabyte models
>one of the dp ports is usb c
>look for dp to usb c cables
>apparently they all only do connectivity from the usb c at the source to dp at the target and not the other way around
Is there really no cable that does both or just dp to usb c alt mode? Or any good kvm monitor that has two actual dp ports and not one as usb c alt mode?
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>>108447651
9070 xt or better, 4080 used
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>>108447011
>>108446912
>>108446956
try local streaming your stuff to your phone or handheld while you're stress testing. undervolts will croak if the encoder doesn't have enough voltage.
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>>108447683
yeah, one of the crashes I had playing poe1 was when I started a youtube video on the back, the media encoder doesn't like undervolting
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>>108446547
I love my 265k and 5070ti
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>>108447704
posted this in another thread. hoping for some help with this
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>>108447718
only ever use the cables that come with the psu, find them
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>>108447736
didnt really answer my question. the amazon link i posted is a cable from corsair which is the type of psu i have. im curious why that adapter has two 8-pins, but the adapter that came with my gpu has three 8-pins
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>>108447698
should have bought a 270k plus>>108446775
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so how long is intel going to put estrogen cores in their cpus until they realize that no one wants to buy into a power hungry doa platform that still loses to a 9800x3d?
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>>108447358
the consoles wont run at 1440p either.
did you forget that upscaling exists?
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>>108447827
somehow their cpus with 50 cores are worse than x3d cpus in some productive work like blender
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>>108447835
yes, all the GPU power is going to be used for raytracing.
that CPU is going to be sleeping no matter what.
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>>108447835
something to do with badly optimized software and their workloads that developers just can't fit in a reasonably sized cache. they should just start learning how to use gpus at this point.
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What do you guys think is the best 5080 to get?
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>>108447784
It will be years before I trust Intel again. Right now, the Ryzen 7 9800X3D curb stomps the 270k. Even if it were the other way around, I do not trust Intel chips at this point in time. I will pass on Arrow Lake. I will wait to see how things shake out with Nova Lake. If all goes well with that architecture, then I will wait to see how it goes with Razor Lake. If all goes well with two generations in a row, maybe that's when I will jump back in to an Intel CPU. Right now, I have zero trust in Intel.
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>>108446719
>9800x3d with b850 chipset
lol
>1000w
waste of money, ~700w is plenty
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>>108447906
1000w for $190 is smart. Who cares about saving $30.
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>>108447906
>lol'ing at 9800x3d with b850 chipset
Explain
>get a 700w PSU and use 95% of it's rated power
to get coil whine within six months?
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why is matx form factor unpopular? even big hardware reviewers like tpu tend to skip out on them. itx has a niche for crazy people and everyone else just uses atx. matx seems like it should be a good compromise in between?
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>>108447976
it was tainted for being the low cost cheap option for 20+ years
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>>108447901
>Nova Lake
>Razor Lake
How tf do you idiots know the codenames for the future cpus? YOU REPTILIAN SCHIZOS HAVE SOME SORT OF ABILITY TELL ME NOW
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>>108447901
>Years before I trust intel again.
I imagine the people who's 9800X3Ds melted are thinking the same thing.
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>>108448021
dude, they have been on this lake shit for like 15 years now, mentally and creatively bankrupt company
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>>108447891
>What do you guys think is the best 5080 to get?
The ASUS x Noctua 5080 or the Astral 5080.
Is it the financially sane choice? No.
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>>108448036
I feel like at that point you're just gonna look like a retard who could have got a 5090 but instead decided to spend 50% more than they needed on a 5080.
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>>108447976
ATX is dead, along with SATA and USB-A.
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>>108448021
>>108448035
They should name the next one Superior Lake. Like the Great Lakes.
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>>108447994
unfortunate because there are good options for matx boards now. still no one uses them
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>>108448035
Yeah but how do you know the specific names?
What do you know that I don't know?
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>>108448096
follow hardware rumour channels and websites
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>cheapest 5090 in my country is $4000
surely the 6090 will be cheaper, right?
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>>108448129
no but you have 2 years to save money and buy one
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Is the Fractal Torrent still "worth it' in 2026?
Currently it's selling for around 265 USD/380 AUD (postage included) which feels like a lot for such an old case, but they're price-gouging the fuck out of the Meshify 3 XL in Australia (335 USD posted) and everything else I might prefer is out of stock with no ETA. Meanwhile, there is the Noctua Antec Flux Pro, but they want 500 USD equiv. for it which is I think more than the sum of its parts?

>>108447672
Kind of old, but hopefully one of these will work for you:
https://dancharblog.wordpress.com/2020/05/10/bi-directional-usbc-dp-cables/#displayport-usb-c
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>>108448142
>2 years to save money
In this economy? Not even after busting your ass in 3 or 5 jobs, and I am talking about US and as a professional
They only pay duly women but not men since they need their salaries cut in order to make up for women's wages
>buy one
Kek, fuck you, it leaves a bitter aftertaste when you spend a premium only to play boring, unoptimized shit developed by angry retarded feminists in the slums of Sri Lanka
It would make you look more retarded for falling for such conspicuous trap, and you deserve all the bullying for believing in big tech after the current strings of events

Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you
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>>108448142
thats kinda the plan, i can save $500 each month at my lowskilled min wage job and between the 6090 and the solar panel system to run it for free in terms of electricity bill it will cost me around $10k-12k so i can rent it to AI bros
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>>108448021
>How tf do you idiots know the codenames for the future cpus?
Autism, anon.
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>>108448184
>$500 each month
You cucks are the problem with modern technology, this is why the industry is laughing at us.
You niggers deserve all the disrespect, ever.

You traded your natural and biological rights of having your first girlfriend for this... dystopian BS... but you cucks beg to be massacred every day in your wage cages for pebbles in order to afford (((current tech))) that´s barely a leap and an anti-consumer nightmare

You were better than this, stupid slaves
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>>108448209
You say that but if my plan goes well and i cant rent the pc for 0.50 an hour for 2.5 years i'll recover the investment and practically get the whole system for free
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>>108448143
>Kind of old, but hopefully one of these will work for you:
I'll take a look through the list. Thanks for it!
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NVIDIA, the graphics terrorist:
>Invented TAA, forever adding a vaseline filter to your games, goodbye to sharp triangles.
>Propelled real-time gaytracing, forever cutting your FPS in more than half.
>Invented fake resolution, adding more vaseline and artifacts to the image.
>Gave you fake frames instead of better GPUs, forever adding input lag and even more artifacts.
And now they want to make all games look like cheap chink porn ads.
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is nobody going to mention how fucked the benchmarks in OP are?
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>>108448470
I miss rasterized graphics too anon.
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>>108448470
Cool. I'm usually playing stuff like picrel on my pc though, even though i have good specs. Shouldn't affect me. Maybe when new games start being good and fun again I'll play them.
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>>108448470
Path tracing does look really good though.
I'm just glad I'm lucky enough to be able to afford luxuries like this.
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>>108448560
Yeah but to run it you need vaseline and input lag, no thanks.
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>>108448566
I haven't had that issue. Have you tried troubleshooting your PC?
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>>108448514
2012 to 2018 games looked so fucking good, Battlefield 1 still looks amazing and ran smooth as butter, I remember playing it just fine with my two year old at the time GTX 980.
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>>108448568
Keep coping novideo kek, disable the vaseline resolution and input lag generator and show us your real FPS with path tracing enabled. Gaytracing was a mistake, simple as.
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>>108448596
?
I'm not having any issues with frame rate or input lag. You're the one saying you were having issues with that.
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>>108448604
Let us see your real FPS with path tracing enabled then.
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>>108448610
In what game?
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Bros...cheap RAM and GPUs soon.
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>>108448143
that's a dumb price, just get a lian li 207 or 217 or something instead. the recent phanteks isn't too bad either. fractal north goes on sale pretty frequently too
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>>108403288
My 9070 XT came in the mail the other day and this thing undervolts like a beast.
>Set it to -80mV
>Set the power limit to 231W
>Underclock it to 9070 non-XT speeds
I get barely any reduction in framerates over stock settings, while reducing power consumption under load by more than 100 watts. It also runs cooler now and is practically silent, and that's a Gigabyte model otherwise notorious for noise levels.

I'd tell all 9070 XT owners to consider underclocking to non-XT levels since the default speeds are well past the peak of the efficiency curve: the 20% higher clocks only translate into about 10% higher framerates, and the power consumption goes through the roof.
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>>108448714
sounds sick, congrats on the killer gpu deal
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>>108448714
Even with these clocks you'll still get higher framerates than the regular 9070 because the XT model has more shader cores, tensor cores, CU's etc
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>>108448714
Sounds likea lot of effort just to get 9070XT's performance.
If you'd spent that time just working a job, you'd be able to get a 5080.
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>>108448470
>NVIDIA, the graphics terrorist
good way to put it
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>>108448497
half the thread is nicotroon and germanschizo talking to each other
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>>108448772
>If you'd spent that time just working a job
anon working more won't make me able to afford hookers and coke every night and race cars on weekends. let me enjoy my computer.
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>>108448772
Now why would he want that??
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>>108448841
>Did Hardware Unboxed Lied
>What will you say guys????

What kind of retard typed this
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>>108448841
IT'S SO FUCKING OVER FOR THE NVIDIA SHILL HARDWARE UNBOXED FOR SPREADING FAKE NEWS
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>>108448841
>[pic]
Jensen’s strongest ESL soldier.
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>>108448714
>Cares about power:performance
>Buys a card that uses more power than a 5080 to get worse performance than a 5070ti.

What a bizarre thing to do.
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>>108448885
>uses more power than a 5080
Not when you undervolt
>worse performance than a 5070 Ti
For about $750 Australian, I can make peace with 6% lower framerates kek.
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>>108448912
Oh, it's much worse than 6% with the entire feature set.
But, yeah, I guess if it's a budget limitation, that's more understandable.
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>>108448951
>entire feature set.
Like what?
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>>108448954
Tensor cores.
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>NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card
>AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
>MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
I wanted a motherboard with 2 M.2 SSD slots that go directly to CPU.
Should I choose a different CPU or motherboard?
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>>108448971
AMD has their own equivalent. Could you give an example of the performance differential being "much worse than 6%"?
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>>108448954
the fake frames
the fake res
the fake price
etc
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>>108448954
>>108448985
He's gonna shill you that 4x framegen is the same as having that as a native framerate now
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>>108448984
>The M2_2 slot will be unavailable when using Ryzen™ 8500/ 8300 Series processors.
>USB 40Gbps Type-C ports on the back panel and M2_2 slot share PCIe 5.0 x4 bandwidth. Both run at PCIe 5.0 x2 when a device is installed in the M2_2 slot.
Oh fuck. Does anyone know a motherboard that has 2 M2 SSD slots without any of this fuckery?
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>>108448985
Oh sure.

In a game like Black Myth for example, the 5070Ti is 78% more performant.
The 5070Ti gets 51.9 FPS average, with the 9070XT only getting a mere 29.1 FPS.
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>>108449014
I don't think AMD has enough lanes for it.
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>>108448714
Undervolting is nice, but I set my GPU to maintain at least the stock performance I paid for.
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>>108449059
Undervolting doesn't decrease your performance.
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>>108449069
It does if you downclock the GPU boost frequency like the guy I quoted.
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>>108449052
If I'm looking at the M.2 sockets that go to CPU, does this mean they both are sharing a lane on this motherboard?
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>>108447976
Cases which can only fit mATX are rare. It doesn't take too much more vertical space to design a case that fits ATX at which point mATX becomes moot. People and manufacturers chasing the absolute most space saved will go straight for ITX. Remember that 360mm radiators for AIOs are the most popular "standard" size, which will influence the size of cases upward past what mATX-only cases can fit. Circumstance just made it a very awkward size when taking all the other components into account.
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>>108448470
>Invented TAA
NVIDIA didn't invent TAA. The TAA used in video games were developed by Crytek, and later refined by Epic.
https://www.digitalfoundry.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-making-of-crysis-2?page=3
https://www.resetera.com/threads/digital-foundry-crysis-2-revisited-did-consoles-kill-the-pc-magic.47875/
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>>108448714
now try any game on that gpu that runs at high fps (170fps+) but still uses 100% of your gpu while you have a browser open and a video playing.
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>>108449038
I think that's a case of bad optimisation on the part of the Chinese Communist Par--I mean Game Science, because the game honestly looks the same with path tracing turned off. With PT off, the 9070 XT gets higher framerates at a lower price (750 AUD in my case).
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>>108449038
I too can cherry pick with games optimized better for the gpu Im shilling
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Dogshit 5070 ti can't even run a cartoon kids game without stuttering like crazy
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>>108449127
>>108449122
You'd have to take that up with Gamersnexus.
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You guys are literally arguing over which pcie add-on graphics board is betterer
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>>108449165
This needs to be reposted in every /pcbg/
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>>108449185
i buyderized a blackwell 6000
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>>108448984
https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x870-a-gaming-wifi/spec/
I'm really liking this motherboard. Can you guys see anything that might come up as potentially limiting me in the future?
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I thank god everyday I got my 6000cl28 kit early and cheap
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>>108449232
Not really. All X870 boards are pretty similar.
The only things I can think it note is that ASUS's software is kinda ass. But, thankfully they've made it largely optional these days.
It's a 2024 board, so it predates the release of the 9000 Series CPUs. Which isn't an issue, but you might have to BIOS update or whatever.

If you wanted something newer, the only improvement you'd really see is better lane splitting, maybe faster LAN ports and more USBs.
But, if you're using a single M.2, a GPU and no other extra devices, there won't be any difference.

Newer ROG boards tend to be BTF and have a special connector for the AIO that reduces cable runs. It's nice, but not worth the extra hundred dollars, and doesn't improve performance.
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HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWbThC2Oys0
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>>108449232
That's the old version
The x870-a NEO is whiter, supports faster memory due to nitro+ ram slots and has better IO
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>>108449247
Same but with my 6600cl32 96gb kit. $359. Gods those were the days...
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how can i get a copy of windows 11 LTSC?
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>>108449685
>>108390800
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>>108449100
what a silly diagram. it looks like this is showing each m.2 always limited to 2x even of only one is populated. i hope thats not true anyway.
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4080 super bros... how can I upgrade to 5090 without spending 3k? how do I rob a warehouse?
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>>108449891
call uncle silverstein and ask him to send you a blackwell pro 6000
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>>108449891
What do you need a 5090 for?
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>>108450163
coom to AI stuff
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>>108450164
Just use the cloud
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>>108450169
im not a cuck sorry
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>>108450173
vast.ai 5090 costs $0.37/h
thats like electricity cost x 3
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>>108450205
>renting
how can I rope on top of my 5090's fans this way, retard????? think before u speak fucking retarded faggot cuck
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>>108450209
Im just telling you the options bro. No need to be mad
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>>108450221
im not mad, namefag retard
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I have a Powercolor Red Devil RX 9070 XT and it's been great, but it's starting to get warmer lately and it makes my room noticably warmer than the rest of the house when it's running games.
Been thinking of undervolting it so that my room is less of a sauna while gayming. Which settings should I use and can I just punch someone else's numbers in and expect it to work?
Also is the AMD drivers fine for this or should I use MSI afterburner instead?
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>>108450227
I know we all want rtx 6000 pro plus ultras. Its just the human condition.
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>>108450230
stop being poor and use AC
>its too hot
turd worlder
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Anons I think my CPU cooler's dying. It's a 360mm AIO that's I think 5 or 6 years old at this point. My CPU's sitting at 80c idle whether I have my fans and pump at minimum or maximum. If I touch the tubes I can feel movement in one but not the other. Clog in the radiator maybe? Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot and maybe fix or is my best bet just to replace it?
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>>108446547
AMD performed slightly better in gaming, but was left far behind in the AI race.
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2TB WD Blue for 100$ or WD Red for 117$?
They run out of WD Black.
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>>108450205
services like this boggle my mind. i just cannot fathom renting something like this. just buy one!
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>>108450265
good thing the AI race is over and no one cares anymore
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what cpu do i buy if i am still on am4
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>>108450265
WHAT IS THIS TEST
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>>108450265
>4070 ti faster than 5070
rip
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>>108450334
The speed at which pornographic images can be generated by the AI for you to cum.

>>108450307
The AI race isn't over until you can buy 128 GB of DDR5 RAM for $128.

>>108449891
Just buy it!
I know you have the money, you're just being stingy.
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>>108450321
I have just upgraded from 3600 to 5600X.
x3d cpu is out of stock in my country.
i have already 32 gb ram .
Now i am thinking to get rtx 5070ti to replace my 5700xt , rather than buying AM5 mobo and RAM.
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>>108450375
leather jacket man... NO!!!!!!!!!
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>>108449433
Why the fuck does he keep going on about the PPP?
Does he think intel are the only people to have CPU drivers or something?

It's also shit that has zero effect on the people actually buying this stuff because he's only having the issues due to some pre-release driver shit. Which won't be a thing when it's released to the public?

Absolute nonsense.
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>>108450460
its a reddit joke thing
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>>108450460
show me you pp and tg retard
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intel vs realtek nic on linux? 225-v/226-v or RTL8126
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>>108446547
gpu scene is so retarded.
every month its just
>HOW DOES THE NEW NVIDIA RTX 10500 TI WITH KDKFR UPSCALING HANDLE SLOPDEN DESERTRING
>CAN THE AMD 99500 Z3D WITH CHLDMLSTR RE-DUBSCALING MATCH IT?
>LETS POST TWO MARGINALLY DIFFERENT BITCRUSHED WEBMS OF BOTH GPUS RUNNING THE """GAME""" BACK AND FORTH AT EACH OTHER UNTIL NEXT MONTH
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>>108450909
Intel is way better on average
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>>108450952
>gaming
there's your issue
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>>108450253
>It's a 360mm AIO that's I think 5 or 6 years old at this point.
Just replace it.
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>>108450230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naBqsSfGX3A
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>>108446547
>image general created with bot created youtube benchmark slop
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AOC U27G4XM any good? It's 27", 4k, miniled, IPS, basically everything I'm looking for PLUS an USB HUB. And it's not qhd garbage.

I'd mainly use it for movies, programming, some light 1080p gaming. I figure the miniled would help out with the abysmal IPS backlight bleed and the adaptive sync is something I wanted to try out. I'd mostly use it in either 1080p mode (games), or 4k with twice the DPI.
24" 1080p is my normally ideal monitor size but I've noticed that I keep moving it closer, so I'm looking for a 27" one instead.
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>>108451106
You basically get what you pay for. Thoroughly check owner reviews.
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>>108451106
meme no good mini led monitor exists, stick to ips or oled but since you said programming i wouldnt get an oled
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>>108451332
oled is garbage for web browsing, I already have a plasma which has the exact same image retention problem, I can't have that for a work monitor.

>meme no good mini led monitor exists
It's an IPS monitor, mini led just makes the backlight possible to turn off per zone, which fixes the garbage backlight of normal lcd monitors.
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Any good screen privacy protection films I can buy for my desktop monitor? I sit by a window and balcony door so I don't want my neighbors to be able to see what is on my screen through binoculars.
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>>108446547
Hello frens! I'm brand new to PC building and a little retarded. I currently have a HYTE Y70 case and a ROG Strix XG27UCS. What should I buy next? I'm at a loss here and want to hopefully finish this build by next month.
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>>108451584
You're not that interesting.
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>>108451584
can't you install curtains or buy an office partition or something
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>>108451768
r u happy power won?
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>>108452034
I'm very happy anon :)
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>>108451768
use this website and select parts or if you tell us a budget we can select the parts for you
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>>108452106
>>108451768
https://pcpartpicker.com/ forgot to link the website lol
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>>108451768
>mainboard
>cpu
>cpu cooler
>ram
>gpu
>storage like nvme ssd
>power supply

Cool case. 4k monitor is also good. You seem to have taste, except for calling yourself retarded in a pseud way
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>supposedly new 9070xt on ebay for $500
This is a scam right
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>>108452147
probably. how many reviews does the seller have?
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32GB VRAM for $1000
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>>108452114
I've been using that site but I'm really new to this, what should I buy next? I'm aware some stuff can conflict with each other. Also my budget would maybe be $600? I'm willing to go a little higher, I still live with my parents rent fee but I don't want to waste too much money.
>>108452116
Thanks for the compliments anon! :)
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>>108452151
Oh yeah, I never use ebay so didn't even think to look at that. 0 reviews and joined this month.
Back to looking at the $700 gpus.
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>>108447718
Yes, you need all connectors plugged in and they all need to be separate cables, no splitters. If you have to order a spare gpu cable, make sure they're the exact same ones your modular psu came with.
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>>108451768
Also disable the ulmb flickering on that screen.
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>>108447901
>amd cooks itself: k lmoa *buys amd*
>intel has two gens with a slightly larger failure rate than normal: AAAAAAAAAAAA HELP ME LISA SU I CAN NEVER TRUST INTEL AGAIN
What drives this brand loyalty?
>>108448470
>amdrone seething about the 7th gen stagnation being over
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>>108452166
offmodel garbage, where r the tits???
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so intel slashed their margins to nothing and are now basically selling FX cpus at a loss to stay relevant after nobody bought their overpriced 285k fake flagship dumpster fire. Lol.
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>>108452155
>2018 technology for $1000
not impressed.
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>>108452166
600$ is really not much nowadays. This will only get you entry level harware. You might get good deals for used components.
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>>108452166
>$600
you can't build a complete system, even extremely budget, with this much money since some point last year. you should look at cheap prebuilts or scrounge the used market at which point asking for advice here won't help
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>>108452237
calling it FX tier is a huge stretch
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>look inside "white" mousepad
>periwinkle/light gray
why
is there a single white mouse pad that actually blends in with the desk color
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>first gaming pc cost me around $800
>now $800 only covers the gpu+shipping/tax
Sad.
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What is the next upgrade step from a 6700xt, I play at 1440 and have a 7600.
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>>108452166
as the other guys have said $600 gets you nothing rn cos of ram/ssd prices that said https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GMHxGk you can get something like this and try and find a used gpu on ebay for $200 to take it upto $750-800
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>>108452312
9070xt/5070ti minimum, anything less and its not worth it
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>>108452215
Sorry I didn't draw this
>>108452268 >>108452279
I'm willing to go more and spend over $1000 if I need too. What parts do you recommend I should buy next?
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>>108449891
The 4080S is still strong enough to run anything on the market. A 5000 series card isn't a big enough boost in performance on any level to be worth the prices. Maybe if they were actually at MSRP, but we can't have that happen because scalpers + miners + aijeeters haven't all been summarily executed.
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>>108446547
I have this mobo https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550M%20Pro4/

And im about to buy another 32 (16x2) sticks of ram. Can i use all 4 sticks at full speed ?

Dont tell me to buy 64gb of RAM because that shit is almost cost as my GPU nowdays :(
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>>108452166
I'm selling my old build for 800 euros if ure interested
https://www.subito.it/vi/612421340.htm
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>>108452328
>/pcpartpicker.com/list/GMHxGk
Sorry I didn't see this! This is a good reference! I might buy this exaxt stuff or might get more upgraded versions, Thanks for the help!
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>>108452349
If you're willing to spend more than a $1000 you can get a decent system, something with a 7600X CPU and 5060 GPU for example: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y2CJ8Z if not i would do as >>108452328 and build a slightly older system but still capable.
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>>108452373
>at full speed
no, in fact the motherboard spec site has a helpful graph of what to expect
make sure you turn off your current expo settings and set it back to default before you install the other sticks
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>>108452415
What does this mean ?
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>>108452424
you cant mix'n'match if you want to apply oc (xmp/expo), meaning you'd have to run the ram at base spec
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>>108452349
I made this build. Its midrange.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xHMpGk

I didnt know that windows costs that much. You can scroll down and see compatibility.
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>>108452415
holy whats that garbage IMC lmao
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>>108452431
So if i buy same exact ram i can run at Base spec ? This is what i want to buy https://www.apacer.com/en/product/zadak-product/detail/zadak_memory/nox_ddr4

16x2gb 3200mhz
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>>108452448
all ddr4 ram is at JEDEC spec, the 3200mhz is the OC frequency and it's meaningless in this case, as the mobo doesnt support filling all you 4 slots above 2667mhz (jedec is at 2133mhz). so it's still OC but slightly less.
Also it means you'll have to OC this shit yourself so if you're not comfortable doing manual RAM OC you'll have to stick to 2133
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>>108452404
5060 is only 8GB vram which can be problematic in new games. I would recommwnd something woth at least 12GB of VRAM especially for the 4k screen.
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people made fun of amd so much karma struck right back and now nvidia drivers are a mess requiring hotfixes every new patch
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>>108452464
I use XMP profile thats built in on the ram. So its possible, right ?
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>>108452424
sr/dr is single rank or dual rank ram and the chart shows the maximum supported memory speeds of the various combinations of these once you plug them into your motherboard. mostly just ignore the distinction and note that four sticks = slower max speeds.

simplified even with four sticks of ram that all say 3600mhz on the box (ddr4) you won't be able to run them at that speed, amd's memory controller won't do it. if you want to run memory with good timings and bandwidth you need to use only two sticks.
in a lot of cases the performance difference is kind of negligible in the face of doubling your ram capacity, but that depends on what you're doing. the best scenario is to just buy whatever capacity you know you'll need upfront in 2 sticks but things happen.
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>>108452476
you're a special kind of retarded arent you? ill make it simple:

ONLY 2 SLOTS GO WOOSH 3200mhz!
4 SLOTS CANT GO WOOSH 3200mhz! All must go at max 2666!!!! And you'll have to do it manually as there's no magic XMP profile (usually) to set it at 26666!!!!!
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>>108452483
>>108452489
Well shit.
Guess i find used 64gb of ram then
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Is there any difference between CL22 and CL18 for Gayming ?
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>>108452513
no
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FUCK FUCK FUCK I SHOULD GO FOR 64GB BEFORE RAMPOCALYPSE AIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>108452539
>BEFORE
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>>108452539
you should have secured an income where $600 isn't a mindbreaking expenditure before the 2008 financial crisis.
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>>108452469
I didnt even know the monitor was 4k kek still you aren’t going to get a good 4k experience for around $1000 regardless
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>>108452539
In roughly 2 years ram is going to normalise. Ram probably has already peaked and wont change much anymore if they dont bomb the ram facilities or some other major bullshit.
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>>108452567
9060xt 16gb can give a good entry level 4k experience
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I'm still excited for dlss5 and I think anyone who disagrees is an idiot savage
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>>108452581
>2 years
*20 years
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>>108452630
i too am excited for games that look worse and have worse gameplay and demand 5x more expensive hardware than they did in 2015.
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>>108452657
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>>108452581
you know chyna is going to bomb taiwan right?
things are only going to get worse the next few years
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When will gpu prices go down
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>>108452723
When people stop buying them
So never
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>>108446775
1080p chads, where we at?
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>>108452773
At the bingo hall
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>>108452702
obv the only way to be prepared is to build a new top of the line pc every hardware generation so you are the least fucked when tsmc gets turned to rubble and we enter a dark decade for pcs...
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>>108452723
When will ram prices go down ? AI uses more RAM than GPU nowadays
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gonna buy and shuck a 16tb drive, wish me luck
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>>108452871
2028, Anastasi in Tech says and agrees with me
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>>108452435
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xHMpGk
Thanks anon. I'm going to use this as a base. I appreciate the kindness you showed in making this. Might post a build later once I look more
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>>108453214
I had enough of OUT_OF_MEMORY error when slopping. I might give in at this rate
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>>108452404
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y2CJ8Z
Forgot to thank you too. I'm going to spend more than I want but, I'll be able to keep using this for years so it's worth it
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>>108453413
Are you sure this isn’t just a skill issue?
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>>108446547
This is what i have now, it's getting old but i don't want to make a new pc now, what if i slap a 9060 16gb in this?
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>>108453686
it'll be better, probably does 1440p fine
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>>108453686
Find another $100-$150, get a 5070
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>>108453686
if you get a 1440p monitor you can reduce some of the cpu bottleneck
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>>108452237
>selling FX cpus at a loss t
what?
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>>108453769
>5070
lol
9070 mogs it
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>>108453772
How? The card will work more than the cpu at a higher resolution?
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Where do people go to buy FE cards?
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>>108453802
>radeon
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>>108453893
First 30 seconds after release.
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>>108453893
Ebay scalpers for a 30%+ markup
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>>108452630
wake me up when they make a nude dlss5 mod.
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>>108453826
Yes the higher the resolution the more the burden on the gpu although if you use upscaling it slightly reduces this effect.
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>>108453906
>>108453917
God damn it...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTJr2msyqGY
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>>108453404
happy to hear
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>DDR4 64gb = $600
Fucking Hell last year i bought 32gb for a fucking $50
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I have a bunch of loose 8gb 4800 sticks, what would be a reasonable price in this current nigger madness?
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>>108454059
bro 64gb ddr4 goes for around $250 on ebay
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>>108446547
I've been watching the price of all my parts in my pcpartpicker build go down each day. Will it finally be the right time to buy soon?
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>>108454301
>Used
Is that okay ?
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>get a 5070
>forget about 32-bit physx support
>exclusively play old titles
Why the fuck did I not buy a 3090...
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>>108454338
enjoy the high end premium experience goy
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>>108454332
It's RAM, bro. This shit's indestructible.
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Holy fuck is the nicotroon still going at it?
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Been thinking about what I should upgrade my PC overall. Say this in my feed
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5sFXVIFkas
OpenAI collapsing right now should lower the prices for RAM, right? So I should wait a little bit longer?
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dK2RJw
I'm looking at building a PC or going with the faster route of getting a prebuilt. I think it's only a 200 dollar difference overall with building a PC vs a prebuilt with considering taxes and more.
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>>108454354
It's fueled by life-crippling buyer's remorse.
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>>108454373
Good to know he's still at it almost 4 months later.
>fueled by life-crippling buyer's remorse
For me it's every benchmark video being filled with third worlders leaving comments about their 9070 XT.
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>>108454338
They already patched the physx in. Also why the fuck you didnt pick 5070ti dumbass
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>>108454344
Does adding a second NV GPU that is supported by the same driver still work?
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Just updated W11 and now my computer won't turn on
Very cool
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>>108454476
Windows 11 is dogshit all things considered. If some of my shit ran on linix I would jump shit instantly
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>CPU price increases will take effect by the end of March and into April, which should start to manifest very soon.
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When should I upgrade?
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>>108455068
Prices arent coming down
lol
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>>108455068
Only when you have to.
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>>108455075
>>108455151
Right now my PC is good, but it has a GPU bottleneck which has a motherboard/power supply bottleneck.
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What can explain being 1,3k points behind average on Timespy? Lack of overclock? Being stuck on windows? Bad silicon (seems too big though)? I haven't overclocked but my thermals are good though, no throttling anywhere.
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>>108455179
>a GPU bottleneck
If it's only an issue in 1 or 2 games then it's not worth upgrading. But if most of your work relies on it then just bite the bullet and upgrade your gpu.
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>>108454373
>fueled by life-crippling buyer's remorse.
I bought a 3070ti. I know about buyers remorse, but I never acted as insane as the resident AMD tard. I actually warned people to stay away from them because I didn't want others to make my mistake.
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>>108455212
it's mostly work related. after some updates the program i use now uses double the vram memory than before with exported rendering. most of the vidya i play can run on shitty ass laptops
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>>108454424
>They already patched the physx in.
Only for select games
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>>108455221
We won't be getting any new cards this year, so if you do decide to get a newer card then that gpu will last you for a good while.
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>>108455228
Theres not many games with Physx anyway
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>>108455191
some people have oc editions & better ram than you
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>>108455245
I'll have to do some more research, thanks anon.
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>>108453686
If you want to go cheap then save yourself $100-200 and put in a used 3070 or a RX 6800 instead for a similar performance uplift. Your PSU can take it, and you MBO doesn't support PCI-E 5.0 anyway.
Alternatively sell your MBO and CPU and get a B550 MBO and a 5500x3d and pair that with a 5070(ti) without worrying about bottlenecking a thing.
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i'm thinking of buying a 5060TI 16gb at the end of this year, should i wait for the 60 series release and buy one of the models or just go all in on the 5060TI even at higher prices?
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>>108455255
>be nvidia
>make physx when people dont own system powerful enough to run it.
>discontinue it when people actually start getting systems that can.
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>>108455498
Save up for a 5070.
The 5060ti 16gb is only useful if you plan on using it for ai.
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>>108446547
this is such a shit game why is it so hyped
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>>108448514
What game?
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>>108455508
the thing is that my PSU is like 550w and i'm not sure my 12400f will bottleneck the 5070. so if i were to buy the 5070 id have to buy a new PSU and everything. i just wanna game at 1440P, if i could with 8GB vram i would buy the 5060
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In the market for a headset with a mic to use as a new daily driver. What brands aren't a meme these days? I was looking at audio technica and their GDL3 looks fine, might go for the differently priced closed-back ones though.
Should I spring for bluetooth ones? I know they're more expensive but I don't know which ones are even worth it.
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>>108455511
OP is an insecure Radeon card owner, and he's shilling Crisom Diarrhea because it's a Radeon partnered title (9070 XT is a fine card imo).
These major releases become social lifelines for some lonely gamers who just want to be part of the launch-day discourse/experience.
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>>108455500
Physx was always held back by console makers going AMD.
Which obviously isn't AMD's fault, but it seriously limited what Physx could be used for, and it basically became that it was only used for making a bunch of random sparkly objects fly around when glass exploded, or whenever batman punched something really hard.

Ageia Physx had a few standalone cards before being bought by Nvidia. And I think Nvidia was actually trying to angle it was an advantage over AMD to console manufacturers, but obviously it didn't pan out.
It's a bit of a shame that Ageia didn't instead get bought out by Intel or AMD or some company that could have integrated an agnostic solution as a chipset on the motherboard.
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got my ultrawide 180hz monitor, my 1200w psu, my hr-10 ssd heatsink, gonna get a 200mm fan tomorrow and boom, pc is done
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>>108455498
60 series you're probably going to be waiting until 2028 for the actual release, then all goes well another several months for prices to go down.

Also look into the 5070 unless you can actually name things you need 16gb for. Unless things drastically change between now and when you buy the card the small price gap makes the 16gb 5060ti kind of a hard sell.

>>108455517
5070 and a 12400f would be fine at 550w, if you're paranoid all of the higher end gpus this gen undervolt really well, it's totally reasonable to get a 5070 to always be under 150w.
As for the bottleneck depends on what you play, recent AAA it's not going to be a thing.
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Okay now THIS is cringe.
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/cripple-their-sales-tank-their-stock-price-stop-collaborating-with-them-as-developers-new-blood-ceo-on-fighting-against-dlss-5/
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>>108446716
>FSR 4.1 > DLSS 4.5
>FSR ML FG > DLSS FG
>FSR Ray Regeneration > DLSS Ray Reconstruction
>FSR Radiance Caching > RTX Neural Radiance Cache
None of those things are in any games
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>the blue screen is now a black screen
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>>108455672
DLSS 5 will probably have a bumpy launch with performance issues.
But a few good DLSS 5 implementations will be enough to change the public perception of the tech.
It's not something I'd buy an RTX 50 card for, it's more of a bonus (if it even runs well).

Also,
>He notes that New Blood makes retro indie games, and Amid Evil is the only game it has put DLSS and RTX in and "it was a huge pain in the ass, arguably made the game look worse, and didn't get us any extra sales.
>But it was a fun experiment and Nvidia sent us some free GPUs for our trouble. Yippie."
They just love free NVIDIA GPUs. But (you) should boycott their cards.
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>>108455742
I can see a good implementation of dlss5 where a company turns off all the character models and simply uses dlss5 for environmental textures. Dlss5 would work well adding to existing environmental textures where duplication is a problem, while character models need to be temporally consistent from scene to scene.
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dlss 5 is so spooky it actually disgusts me
it's like all that AI babbler slop actually becoming real and not something we laugh at when we hear it
allowing it to exist feels like opening the gate for that distopic future where you'll own nothing and be happy, where you cant buy a pc anymore, you can only rent them, and ur phone won't have apps anymore, it'll have an ai that tells you what to do, etc, etc, etc
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>>108446775
Now post benchmarks using realistic user settings, like 1440p and RT
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>>108449433
What the fuck is that benchmark, I played BG3 at 4k DLSS (1440p) and it never dipped below 100 on a 4090
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>>108455851
For years you retards have been complaining that graphics dont matter, now nvidia finally listen to you and create DLSS 5 so devs no longer need to waste dev time about muh graphics and you still find some bullshit to complain, it really shows that it was never about the graphics but rather you retards refusing to buy good nvidia cards
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>>108455255
There are 1000
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>>108448853
Every single fucking jeet types like this. /vr/ is FULL of them. Just pages and pages of retarded, grammatically incorrect question threads.

It's far worse than you ever imagined. They are everywhere.
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>>108457941
there are just so many fucking jeets. the west has fallen, the future is jeet.



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