I'm hoping things escalate, if you check things you will see such always increase number of jobs in our field, and because of its nature it is very likely we will be safe from outsiders.

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I don't like my new job very much and the one I left to get a new one that was supposed to be more sane paid a lot better.

>>108482789
zoomer

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IT nerds go in thinking it gon be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry60m3ZBmLE
but then it actually be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTHvzAhWfgA

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I am gasping for air in a sea of broken equipment

>>108482893
sus

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>still on the LinkedIn shtick

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>>108482971
Here you go, cheer up

>>108482975
>CEO at planswell
Clearly he doesnt

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How come jeets get a free pass but we need to have 200 years of experience + Ivy league master's?

>>108482982
Their degrees don't even reflect the same quality as degrees in the states

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>>108482968
making crazed speeches to no one in particular to cope lest i seethe

remember that you are mortal, and that heroes never die

>>108482991
true, ours is much higher

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>”Silicon Valley’s conscious”
This ginger twink is literally Aaron Eckjary in Thank You for Smoking

>>108483002
did you mean "conscience"

>>108483006
Yes I’m a phonefag

>>108483018
stop that

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attempting to hit myself with Bravery and Faith before work tomorrow (cast failed)

>>108482991
Their degrees aren’t worth the paper on which they're printed

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hitting myself with Protect and Shell because nothing I need to make sure anything works itself works, and so neither will I

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hitting myself with Doom because i am incapable of working properly without immediately threatening external pressure

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>>108482789
why did you leave your old job then

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goodnight /twg/

>>108483393
technically i did not and still have both. i just have severely reduced my hours at the other one for scheduling raisins

I'm "severely reducing" my interest in your posts

>Luddite coworker is telling me AI is useless
>Ask him to show me what AI he is using
>Free gemini cli
breh

breh fr I cap when man show me that gemi cli

>>108483677
Many such cases. I feel like retards kicking and screaming while whining about AI overusage are still stuck on the state AI was in in mid 2024.
Anyone who's tried Claude sonnet 4.6 knows it's good enough to basically do 3-5 story point non-investigative tickets (meaning create/change thing xyz in our codebase) practically completely by itself, and 8sp tickets with a good divide and conquer approach.

>>108483794
>Claude sonnet 4.6 knows it's good enough to basically do 3-5 story point non-investigative tickets (meaning create/change thing xyz in our codebase) practically completely by itself, and 8sp tickets with a good divide and conquer approach.
delusional

>>108483849
yes we know you are a delusional luddite

what the fuck is an "8sp ticket", like everyone's using the same metric

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>>108483794
>>108483677
So true saars

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>>108483869

>>108483849
Surely you can provide a counterexample
>>108483852
Obviously teams have different definitions of scale but every retard should approximately know that 3-5 is on the small to mid size while 8 is on the bigger side, unless you're doing some complete retarded version of scrum/agile

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>>108483427
good night

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>>108483873
Oops you forgot to post the original

>>108482771
npm install gger

>>108482975
What exactly is an unemployed drop out

>>108483990
KEK

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>tfw second week in a bureaucrat corporate job 100% remote (i haven't received the work computer yet) (i get paid anyways)

>>108484007
My first month at my previous gigacorpo job was watching compliance lessons and running around (virtually) requesting access kek

>>108484036
Hell i don't even have access to those compliance lessons and I cannot even request access for I don't have access to the platform in which you require access
sum that the fact that i'm spanish and we are in Semana Santa

I'm ESL but even I (get it?) get tired of the indian's dogshit english. Fucking quality leader can't write a coherent mail to save his life

>>108482771
>macfaggot discovers aliases: the thread

>>108483794
>3-5 story point non-investigative tickets (meaning create/change thing xyz in our codebase)
The kind of tickets that take longer to describe as a ticket than the change would actually take

>>108483677
>you're holding it wrong
yawn

>>108484291
>use shitty tools
>get shitty results
Literally the opposite of holding it wrong

>>108484335
>this random word predictor can randomly predict words better than that random word predictor

Honestly anti-AI bros will just end up adopting Lvddite the same way they adopted Chvd.

>>108484353
Yes?
Literally how retarded are you

>>108484353
YES SAAR YOU ARE RETARDED SAAR BENCHOD

A product manager spams their Call for Clarity ability all day causing a motivation nerf in the rest of the raiding party
Business unable or unwilling to patch this out

>>108484485
they're all literally the same thing you dunning kruger jeet

>jeets calling other people luddites
I find it very ironic coming from the same race that refuses to use toilets

>>108484198
GOD THEY CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND A SIMPLE ONE LINE MESSAGE
FUCKING RETARD SENIOR PRINCIPAL ARCHITECT I HATE THEM

>>108483114
>implying they have paper to print them out

Remember the cope people with no typing skills used? "I spend most of my time thinking anyway" yet now they're shilling LLMs because it can generate code a lot faster than them. Curious.

>>108484914
still better than a jeet

>>108484914
I would rather have 10 typical trannies on my team than 1 typical jeet

>>108484920
Even if you have god tier 200wpm typing skills an LLM can generate you 30 files with boilerplate shit customized to your prompt within 2 minutes.

>>108484461
One can adopt AI but still hate Sam Altman, OpenAI, Indians and AI shills.
If you work a corporate job you‘ll end up adopting it anyway, one way or another. Only private project losers feel the need to mention it everywhere.
Dario is based tho

>>108484997
Honestly the only good use cases I've found for AI are coom shit

>>108484995
My point is, typing speed seemingly didn't matter before LLMs so why does it now?

>>108485047
>typing speed seemingly didn't matter before LLMs
Said who? Typing speed always mattered, just not to a super massive extent. What matters is the overall regular dev workflow speed which depending on how CLI-heavy you are heavily correlates to typing speed.
Your retarded strawmans don't even make sense

>>108484997
Why would you hate a tool? Do you also hate hammers?

>>108484920
It depends on the code base, it mattered more for new projects and less for bug fixing and maintenance.
Also the difference between 2 people was usually not massive. 140wpm vs 70wpm is 2x, and that's already an extreme example, but AI with sub agents can generate code much faster, probably and order of magnitude or more.

>>108485114
you smell like shit and every white person gets the ick from all aspects of your existence, rajesh

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>company I work at cancels all IDE subscriptions and forces everyone to start using Claude Code as a "cost-saving measure"
>management provides no details of how they expect this to work but they start talking about how individual engineers are expected to deliver more going forward
>2 weeks later
>management have finally figured out how they're actually going to roll this out across the company
>engineers are going to be paired together to write a plan to feed to Claude Code
>the plan has to follow a template that the VP of Engineering ripped from some random AI account on Twitter
>one engineer will "drive" while the other "navigates"
>in some cases there will be 2 drivers and 1 navigator
>need to maintain a bunch of additional Markdown files to cover what decisions were made and any handover notes
this is a remote-only company with over 400 engineers

>>108485173
But I'm white and use strawberry soap?

>>108485176
It's getting a bit insane. But software engineering somehow always had these retarded workflow decisions that most SWEs hated, like SCRUM and so on.

>>108482789
I left my old one on bad terms and hate my new job and my new boss and knowing there's no way back and that the job market sucks is going to make me kill myself. and

>>108485176
yeah that didn't happen

>>108485163
>Also the difference between 2 people was usually not massive. 140wpm vs 70wpm is 2x, and that's already an extreme example

Have any of you people ever had a job? This is too retarded to even argue with

>>108485210
Do you have job? Yeah thought so

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>>108485200
You have no idea how much I wish this was just a shitpost.

>>108482975
So is he homeless but breathing?

>>108483990
He was living of daddy's money

>>108485247
It is called generational wealth be more respectful

>>108485114
They are not comparable. A hammer is a nice simple tool that has a consistent result. LLMs are (literally in the name) language models. They are made for language, they can't think or reason. So using LLMs to generate code is not a good idea. Sure, LLMs can generate syntactically correct code as a side effect, but the correctness of that code can vary. And most of the time the problem domain can be so large that you can get different results from the same prompt and context.

>>108483873
>Microsoft on multiple occasions
>AWS on multiple occasions
>cloudflare on multiple occasions
>version on multiple occasions

All in the last year

>>108485163
>140wpm vs 70wpm
My coworkers' speed ranges from 30 to 50 :D

>>108485314
>So using LLMs to generate code is not a good idea
Why not? You said yourself, LLMs are basically fancy autocomplete. This is just extending the scope of the autocomplete.
I will completely agree that pointing an LLM on a problem and saying "think about this and find a solution" is borderline retarded but LLMs are *literally* optimised to death for advanced code generation.
You get very solid consistency for traditional patterns because that's where the biggest certainty within the LLM statistical inference lies.

>>108485356
>"think about this and find a solution" is borderline retarded
How so? You are just pre-filling their autocomplete with that context, don't be autistic and stop thinking of what you tell it as literal.

>come back from a 30 day vacation
>half of team gone
kwab, as kids say these days
also please fucking fire me already

I don't mind using an LLM but I'm not paying for my own fucking subscription

>>108485413
kids don't say kwab you moron

>>108485408
>How so?
Because LLMs don't actually think. Sure it can spit out a solution for you, but it's not something that it thought or inferred by itself. It will be something that is an amalagamation of stackoverflow and Reddit posts of similar sounding problems, which for a bog standard problem might work out well enough, but if your problem is specialised enough it will fuck up.

>>108485450
Do you have ADHD? Read the rest of my reply ffs

>>108483523
based

>>108485114
>Why would you hate an unreliable, non-deterministic tool?
anon, have you tried learning how they work? have you ever written a single fucking program in your life?

>>108485573
skill issue

>>108485598
brainlet non-tech-worker issue

I had such a weird dream where my boss got fired and I was so fucking worried since if he's fired I'm fucked. It's one where my boss talked back to his boss and did something behind his back but that would like never happen since my boss is sorta a buttlicker.

>>108485619
That can and will happen from time to time. Mega manlet managers have it the worse 2 faced obsessions and often chase clout/status/prestige before ever learning how to learn from someone better than them properly.

>>108485443
what do kids say then

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I PASSED THE FINAL ROUND
and now I'm moving onto team matching
all of those hours spent grinding leetcode paid off
I'm gonna make it!!!!!!!!!

good morning sirs, i have a concern

Why is copilot so shit? It's even worse than chatgpt.

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>>108485751
on a related note, how easy would it be to learn java in like 2 weeks

>>108485768

Some MBAs got their hands on the nozzles and are currently ruining the fuck out of it lol

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>>108485770
Why learn java when you can learn AI.

>"These changes have not been wholly for the better. Social media has enabled people with common concerns and interests to find one another, which has benefited birdwatchers and indie music fans but also white supremacists."

Can anyone point me toward these facebook groups who are trying to take over the world for white people only? (They couldn't put white nationalist presumably because they are zionist jews)

>>108485880
what is your job in tech?

>>108485751
don't get your hopes up retard, it's not won until you've signed the contract. I've reached final rounds multiple times

>>108485770
Learning programming languages is over, anon. Claude knows Java. Devs don't need to know java anymore.

>>108485895
Not yet but I'm taking ethics in technology and in the book we have to read in the introduction paragraph is white people bad lol.

>>108485922
>white supremacist = white people bad lol.
you must be a 18+ tech worker to be here. also, you need to learn basic logic to get into tech.
get the fuck out, brainwashed retard.

>>108485952
Where are the groups of white people trying to take over the world? What are they referring to?

>>108485919
>>108485879
how are you retards employed

>>108484007
based. i was in the same boat at my current job. the winning ticket is working remotely for some slow-moving yet profitable corposlop that pays you six figures to tackle your vidya backlog.

>>108485239
My company has people letting their agent scrape their security tokens to 'automate' workflows and then those people are acting offended when they get security breach notifications and their licence revoked. It's been a month or so since the official email went out saying
>Don't fucking do it
And every time some manager forces their team to use it they say
>I thought it was ok because the agent can only access the pages I can access
I can't get into more specific examples of retardation, but I fully get your pain.
>>108485879
Does the image you posted read as funny to you? Because I can't tell if you are retarded or you had an idea and couldn't bother to realise it fully and posted whatever was generated on a lazy prompt.

>>108486027
here's the thing: they're not

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So many copes ITT

are we being raided by AI-loving non-tech retards and bots? if so, why? why is this general so important to these techlet faggots?

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Should I ask my boss why leadership puts out job-ads for positions that don't exist?

>>108486121
you know why so why ask

>>108485879
>>108485919
go feed a train

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>>108482992

>>108486064
but enough about yourself

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>>108482982
because they are modern slaves working for nothing and are stuck at the jobs for h1b reasons

>>108486133
I want them to feel guilt

>AI is le hecking bad
>Proof?
>Posts pic of google search AI being asked about Rs in strawberry
These are the luddites we AI Chads are replacing with our minions.

>>108486184
lol
lmao

>>108486133
I don't and my company does the same

>>108486177
cope and seethe, brokie

>>108486290
i won you lost

I'm going to grind the neetcode 150 in 2 weeks

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How many weeks til Claude can man the cash register at dunks?

>>108486351
Already can lol

>>108486359
I have not seen this once except for a few days at a few locations here and there before it inevitably gets rolled back for being spastic and unreliable

>vomit+diarrhea in the morning
>still go to work
>get told to go home by boss
I hope I managed to collect some good goy points today.

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>>108486084
Dollars to doughnuts on "viral marketing" from some kind of jeet or SEAmonkey company.

>>108486359
>can I get 18,000 water cups

>>108486387
No.

>>108485114
If a hammer was made by a pathologically lying, horse-faced, homosexual kike then yes, I would hate the hammer.

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I, for one, welcome our new PM overlords.

>>108486393
0% chance you actually check the background of the brand of your hammer, stop larping schizo

>>108485176
They reinvented programming by using AI, only worse.

>>108486393
As usual, you mongrels prove our point, we care about RESULTS, we couldn't care less if the tool was made by the Devil himself, if it produces good output, then it is good, and we WILL use it.

>>108484914
wtf I love trannies now

>>108486394
AI Chads just keep winning

I am implementing SOAP web services in the current year of our lord 2026 and enjoying it

>>108486084
In my personal experience, it's the jobless neets with personal projects who heavily rely on Claude who come to these threads to attack the people they hate - actually employed devs - any way they can.
It's like they believe we are all le epic ludditors who only code by hand like in that Spongebob clip vs King Neptune when in reality, we're all already using some kind of AI tool in our everyday work if we're permitted to.

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>>108486351
Unironically how has this one question not popped the bubble already

>>108486412
But Claude produces better results than ClosedAi and even Mistral and Kimi are alright to work with these days. Literally zero reason to use ChatGPT/Codex. Especially because the latter keeps being shilled by jeets.

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>>108486448
>2 more weeks goy

>>108486462
More realistic timeline than when Sam Kikeman said last year that they've already achieved AGI.

>>108486462
This is a billion percent true, hell I would bet it will be higher.

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>>108486462
>Dario Asmodeus

>>108486443
>In my personal experience, it's the jobless neets with personal projects who heavily rely on Claude who come to these threads to attack the people they hate - actually employed devs - any way they can.
right.
this is why we need /utwg/.
I hope their shit gets hacked and published on darknet forums, and they get doxxed for everyone to see, so they learn how "good" """AI""" is lmao

>>108486560
And then everyone will clap xD

>>108486575
well, yeah. who doesn't laugh at both multi-billion companies and dumbass wannabe tech bros getting hacked? do you even read tech news or forums sometimes? everyone laughs at your retardation.

>>108486621
two more weekerinos

>>108486628
nta but what makes you think you'll find employment or make it big with your shitty hobby project? Your AI skills are worthless without YOE.

>>108486638
who said I don't have yoe? im senior unlike you

>>108486657
I see, you are delusional.

>>108486443
Yeh, it is genuinely a really useful tool that speeds up a lot of day to day stuff. I use claude daily at work including with muh agentic workflows so I have a really good handle on what it can and cannot do. Do not let it architect anything unless you want spaghetti hell. Especially avoid anything to do with concurrency or tricky memory management. But whip out a lot of boilerplate that is well defined and matches everything else in your code base? You can pop up a new feature ludicrously fast using claude + bmad with probably less simple mistakes than you would have typing it all up yourself. But you all know all this. It's like when 3D printers were new and everyone wanted everything to be made of printed plastic. Super useful tools particularly when used in conjunction with other tools, but not magic.

>>108486683
Cope more won't change reality.

AIIIIEEEEEE WHY MUST I READ THE SEMITIC TEXTS

Ideally everyone and everything would get what they want and be happy and that's what everyone should aim for and you should have an impact document assessing the ethical ramifications of your technology why do I have to learn about Kant and communism and shit through the lens pathological white hating jews.

>>108486705
What reality? You have none.

>finally have an instance with the correct OP format and a proper image
>thread quality soars
>/twg/'s equivalent of /pcbg/'s nico rushes to make the next two threads with linkedin spam and badly formatted OP
>thread quality plummets

>>108486712
Keep coping

>>108486690
I learned this the hard way when I made it write migration code and it caused various errors. But to be fair, I couldn't have written it better myself and we went over multiple iterations together.

i do tech work in a non-tech company
just how retarded is the average office drone? we have hourly calls twice a week learning about some brilliant new ai feature but it's shit like "use ai to create a slide deck" "use ai to find company information" which even a 70 iq retard could do without spending millions of dollars on licencing fees

>>108486717
This is /twg/. I have a job (unlike you) and am here to exchange information with fellow IT workers. You go back to /utwg/.

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my company just gave us a 1k claude api allowance/moth, i hope we get access to mythos soon, can't wait

>>108486351
It already can, they just keep a meatbag there to avoid confusing the elderly.

>>108486728
>IT
Hahahaha, no wonder you hate AI, you were already at the bottom of the totem pole, now you might as well be underground LMAO

>>108482771
how the fuck this nigga know what axios is but doesn't know how to make scripts in package.json

>>108486657
>im senior
good morning saar

>>108486763
jealous? ;)

>>108486740
My official job position is 'software developer', not helldesk supporter.

>>108486713
>badly formatted OP
how about kill yourself you unemployable jeetcoder?

>>108486443
If you don't use Claude, there is 0% chance you will get hired at my company. You're stuck in the past. Software development is changing quite rapidly, and if you don't adapt you're going to get left behind. Many good devs will get laid off anyway, so somebody that thinks AI hasn't progressed since 2023 isn't going to make it in this industry. That's my advice as a random senior dev for a pretty small and irrelevant company.

>>108486766
>not senior
>not engineer
codemonkey alert

>>108486770
>my company
Durgasoft?

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once I get this job my life will be sunshine and rainbows and i'll finally be able to afford cool things and upgrade my pc and pay off my debt and stop being an incel

>>108486780
you lost

>>108486770
Claude is the industry standard these days but not few companies rely on internal Kimi models or use Mistral (mostly EU).
>Software development is changing quite rapidly, and if you don't adapt you're going to get left behind.
It's the companies themselves who are slowing adoption, not me.
>so somebody that thinks AI hasn't progressed since 2023 isn't going to make it in this industry.
I think the relative peak was reached with Opus 4.5 and from now one usage will become more expensive.
>>108486774
There is no functional difference here.

>>108486770
well what's a way to display that? am i supposed to send my vibe coded apps to the recruiter?

>>108486810
you include the word "claude" somewhere in your resume

>>108486819
i was wondering about that, AI tools aren't a turn off in resumes anymore then?

>>108486831
no
don't mention you're a vibecoding retard, just say you have experience using claude code / chatgpt codex
the actual shit that's beneficial is putting in your resume that you have experience integrating AI into applications / workflows to automate tasks

>submit a ticket to one of my software vendors and it gets sent to the South America team
>they're actually working on my ticket and giving me frequent updates
>submit another unrelated ticket to the same vendor and it gets sent to the EU team.
>support is giving me the hardest time and being a passive aggressive fucking twat.
what the fuck is going up there in the european union?

>>108486859
The EU team recognized that your ticket was retarded.

>>108486859
>to the South America team
buenos dias senor

>>108486888
The EU team can't fucking read and constantly repeats the same question from their stupid script.
>>108486891
di nada or whatever at least you groovy fuckers get shit done.

>>108486891
¿llamada rápida?

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>>108482771
regarding picrel he should try shortening

npm install --global --global --enable --run

>>108484461
I prefer the moniker: butlerian jihadi

>>108486979
kek jeets are as competent at kysing themselves as they are at being human beings

>>108485114
squeaky toy hammers that little snot-nosed little brats tell master carpenters they should be using instead of a nailgun? yes I hate hammers.

>>108485356
I turn off autocomplete

>>108486783
oops lifestyle creep now you need a 2nd job

>>108486249
your company is insolvent and about to collapse so it is advertising job openings to fake like it is strong and growing.

>>108486979
This is why I don't get AI opponents.
AI will be the greatest Indian programmer filter in existence.

>>108486412
only the devil's tools use the devil's tools

>>108487035
lifestyle creep isn't real just stop being a retard

What are job interviews like with AI these days?

>>108482771
Very cool, he's well on the way to discovering the concept of a GUI

I don't wanna work
How can I get laid off as a WFH dude no one pays attention to?

>>108485710
Skibidi Ohio six seven unc

>>108487334
>join a gigacorpo
>make sure to pick a gigacorpo where it's center of operations is far removed from your city
>never go beyond senior level
Done. You might need to travel once every 2-3 quarters to the other team though.
In my 2 years working, I was maybe 4 times at the main office, and maybe 3 times at my regional office within my city.

I run a dev firm and I just got the first organic lead from my site when I haven't even done SEO past content optimization. Feels weird.

>>108482789
This is why I'm scared to switch. But I kinda feel if I stay at my current one too long it will end up on bad terms. Just constantly feels like there's a hidden and forgotten about fuckup lurking.
>how come xyz from 3 years ago
lol idk fuck off

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>the jeet is going on about AI again
I’m getting sick of having to listen to this

Should I go more technical or less technical? It kind of seems like I'm hitting a road block not being a "software developer" even though I can and do program in my day to day, just not the business logic. On the other hand could that be equally or more limiting, slotting me only for other developer roles?

>>108487772
There's no correct answer here anon, so I don't know what you expect.
Luckily, there's also no wrong answer.

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I corrected my tax calculations and the government says that my tax percent is now 35%.

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The lunatics are getting creative.

>>108487820
Yeah I just feel stuck in the middle. Oh well I guess to some extent it's all out of my control anyway, I just go where life takes me.

>>108487913
I hate LinkedIn so much.

>>108487913
I can assure you this guy is the kind of retards that understands neither: what vulnerabilities actually are, or how to use tools to prove they exist and to exploit them.

>>108487025
Same. It's too distracting, and if I know what I want I'm faster than it anyway.

>>108487772
Business logic still counts as programming.

4chan really is an addictive waste of time. guess I'll block this shit site, but... what the fuck do I do to get distracted from time to time and to talk to people (or bots, whatever)?

>>108488574
Habbo Hotel

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>>108488574
Rubber ducks

Been WFH since 2020. Government from 2020 to 2023 and social media from 2024 to present. My current job pays well and the work is light but I can barely pull myself to do tasks. Outside of work I go hard on side projects. I want to quit but I won't find anything else. And no, I'm not grateful for this job, fuck it.

I think corporate speak, meetings, and presentations are disgusting. All these rats following this soulless well trodden path to feel like they're contributing to something good and valued. Ick.

I just want to go for walks, drink coffee, sleep in, program, lift, and fuck. Nothing else matters

What's your story anons?

>>108488640
Jews mutilated my penis and I hate everyone, chasing money is my only distraction, I hate computers but I used to find it fun. There's too many jeets. Work is easy and I do the bare minimum but always pretend like it's hard and important, when it's mostly bullshit.

Look, if they're like 150 IQ, were top 0.001% in math in a country with 1 billion people, did all their schooling in english, then fine. I don't care about those.

But how the fuck am I working with jeets who flat out do not speak english. Literally they cannot get through a single sentence without a glaring error. EVEN WITH NEPOTISM the fuck did they get hired...surely there was some other jeet who had them beat.

https://techforce.gov/
opinions?

>>108488847
>Tech Force will be an elite group of ~1,000 technology specialists hired by agencies to accelerate artificial intelligence (AI)
Every single time
>The initial roster of private sector partners includes Adobe, Amazon Web Services, AMD, Anduril, Apple, Box, C3.ai, Coinbase, Databricks, Dell Technologies, Docusign, Google Public Sector, IBM, Meta, Microsoft, Nvidia, OpenAI, Oracle, Palantir, Salesforce, SAP, ServiceNow, Snowflake, Robinhood, Uber, Workday, xAI, and Zoom. This list will expand over time.
lol
>No, Tech Force is focused exclusively on improving government technology capabilities. All work is non-partisan and centered on serving the American public through better technology.
>Tech Force participants will be placed across various federal agencies including the Departments of War,
KEK
>While Tech Force will coordinate across all of government, it is distinct from other technology initiatives within government, including the United States DOGE Service
Love the "we're totally not doge you guys" disclaimer lmao

>>108488640
Ive lost the passion to give a shit at my current job and am content to now let nontechs drive it
WFH, higher pay than anywhere else
Clock out at 5 and get on with life

What happened to /utwg/? Everyone got hired?

>>108489039
/uwtg/ was unemployed for long enough they fell off the official unemployment numbers

>>108489039
jannies kept nuking it and the poster count kept going down
at some point the unemploids decided it was no longer worth the 3 day bans to keep it alive

>>108489039
They moved here.

>>108482771
sell soul for $$$$ or keep sanity for $?

($ true to scale)

$$$$ is basically a work theater

$ is a work theater with nice actors

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>tell some of my family that I finally passed all the interviews for a large company
>"great, so when do you start? have you already done the background check?"
>explain to them what team matching is
>"oh so you still don't have a job"

>>108489008
>get divorces and fat because youre a retard
>fight with everything

>>108489144
Why didn't you just shake the owners hand like I told you, son? Jeez, kids these days are so entitled.

Should I study accounting

what's the least jeetified sector for a SWE with 9 YOE? my fatigue has hit end stage (aka getting let go in favor of outsourcing) and i don't mind taking a pay cut to avoid them as much as possible

>>108489478
No, horrible idea. That's going to be fully automated even before dev is.

>>108489518
Government and research. The former you need a clearance, maybe a masters degree and a prayer that they have a job opening for you.

For the later a masters degree or preferably PhD

>>108489518
bartending

>>108489518
Waffen ss

>>108488724
>surely there was some other jeet who had them beat
Yeah, the CTO, Ransneed has a 2nd cousin named Lakshit and if you are looking to hire 3 people, Ransneed has two other 2nd cousins with masters degrees to fill the gap

>>108484914
Because most of the anti AI sentiment was astroturfed and it's the same demographic that falls for every psyop.

>shake the owners hand
I know it's a meme atp but it's depressing how far removed everyone over 40 is in every other sector. Most normgroids at that age have already figured their lives out and have been working at the same company for a decade or more, completely removed from the hell that is modern job searching.
They have no clue how painful the multi round interview process is, or how opaque, or how clueless and useless all the people you meet along the way are.
>wow son, you didn't get the job at (x) company? did you ask for feedback?
>dad I got an automated rejection message from their system, all 3 of the dudes I interviewed with had no clue what I would be doing on the job and the hiring decisions are made by a council of HR roasties I've never spoken to

how much do you worry about staying in the same niche with respect to future jobs?
i managed to get into a pretty cool ML job doing computer vision stuff in manufacturing, right out of college. the problem is my gf got a job across the country and i want to live with her. it's pretty fuckin hard to find jobs similar to what i'm doing now. i worry if i switch to some more general software engineering role, i'll basically never have the opportunity to do ML shit like i'm doing now, because so many of the jobs are looking for people with graduate degrees or otherwise lots of experience in it.

>>108489718
>the problem is my gf got a job across the country
lmao

>>108489719
please don't lmao @ me. she's remote right now but they want her in the office in like 3 months so we're both looking new jobs. i don't really like where we're living now anyway. deep south. weather sucks, environment sucks, future prospects suck.

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It's all so surreal that it may be a horribly long nested dream.

>>108482771
Anyone else notice it's become its own industry for hot onlyfans girls to spam twitter about how they're a software engineer?
I'm late 30's and have met like three women in my career who could code even a little bit, and maybe one was average looking.

>>108489734
I saw another one of these that said “Humiliation Factory” and the cat said “I hope I don’t get humiliated”.

>>108489039
there was no point to it when this general already exists. Both are talking about the same exact thing, and uwtg was only created because of an autist argument.

>>108489729
remote is the best my friend I spend all day with my wife, try to find remote jobs. If she doesn't want a remote job she's a dumb slut with no life and it's time to let go

Where the fuck do tech workers meet women...

>>108489735
1. Why are you on twitter
2. Why are you looking at onlyfans girls

>>108489144
Never share news about a job until you've signed a contract, naive mistake

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Give 12 adjectives to describe yourself

>>108489827
conferences

>>108489758
I don't know, we may have these parts at work too, I just stopped to think clearly enough.

What would happen if you simply stopped logging on to your fully remote work from home job?

How long until you'd stop getting payroll? Would they take any back before an official termination?

Anyone have experience ghosting an employer?

Asking for a friend who doesn't have a chan account.

>>108489039
They flooded this thread, replaced the OP with some low quality dogshit, and get really mad when you point out the loss of thread quality.

>>108489911
if you went on true maintenance mode you could probably kick the can for a long time. like, open laptop and weigh down a button to keep teams active.
the value you would get out of keeping it on life support almost certainly outweighs the effort it takes.

>>108489943
true, maintence mode would maximize benefits more than nuclear mode...

I could go nuclear once I get a job at ... a restaurant kitchen... I think McDonald's would be comfy. Seriously. As long as I don't have to clean washrooms.

>>108490008
I just wish there was something amazing to be spending my time on. I have my side projects. I work on them for 10+ hours a week.

But what else is there... I don't have a family or friends to play hooky with and whatever. Fuck bros... we're just running out the fucking clock until vacation

>>108490008
>I think McDonald's would be comfy
Sheltered idiot

>>108490022
find something to do. i'm 30. i bought a motorcycle recently and that's been a lot of fun to ride on the weekends. it's a dual sport and i spent 4 hours saturday ripping around in the woods.
money is the thing that enables you to do the stuff you want to do. try things and figure out what you enjoy. look up bands playing near you and go to a concert. rent an RV and go camping in a national forest. get certified to scuba dive.
if you're not chained to anything, this is the time to do anything. you will regret treading water when you look back on this opportunity.

>>108489911
I work in a startup so spending a single day without logging in means receiving emails in my personal email about wtf is going on.

>>108490045
I worked remotely for a month in asian this year already, and I went to a concert last weekend. I programed for 20 hours this weekend, and also go to the gym 4 times a week. Also do a lot of walking.

Not much beckons me besides that stuff (and 4chan). I'll probably go to Asia again because I don't feel lonely there.

Motorcycles are quite fun. I rent scooters in Vietnam and exploring places on them is magic

>>108490045
hope you get killed in an accident motorcycle faggot

>>108490288
y-you too!

>>108485952
Faggot + brown

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Looking for a Online Masters Degree to hopefully propel my IT Networking degree. I am about to finish up my CCNP Enterprise so any advice on what to get and where to go?

>>108490452
>and where to go?
India sar

>>108485198
and?

>>108485450
I have yet to find a problem the agent can't solve
what really seems to be the issue here is that you are a FAGGOT who doesn't have the slightest fucking clue how to use the tool he's complaining about

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Got hired by a large retailer about two weeks ago to work on a POS system
I spent the first week doing nothing because I couldn't use my personal laptop to work due to company policy and they took their sweet ass time getting me a work PC
And now I'm still dicking around because they haven't decided anything and won't give me an actual spec to start developing for, I could whip something up but I'd be essentially guessing
I'm basically getting paid to do nothing right now

>>108485879
"Learning" AI is like learning how to make the slot machine pay out every time

>>108490559
Sounds like an amazing skill to have.

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if you treat AI like essentially an dictionary for stackoverflow it's halfway decent, especially with stuff you don't quite know and lack the vocabulary to get search engine hits for (so for junior retards), but that's about it
you just gotta figure out the implementation details yourself or else you won't even know how your own system works, which matters because the AI doesn't either

>>108490582
And by that I meant that it relies on insane levels of confirmation bias because it's not an actual skill you can have, by design, because the slot machine doesn't pay our every time unless it's broken

>>108486740
He might just be european and mean "computer shit field of work". Europeans use "IT" the same way that americans and indians use "tech".

>>108486382
>coughing a bit in the morning
>"fuck it"
>call in sick
My boomer company doesn't pay me enough to care about showing up everyday.

>>108490605
I think we are the only ones that even differentiate between the 2 disciplines. Even then it gets a bit fuzzy if you work with server admin related topics. Speaking of which i gotta learn python scripting for my networking job. But generally IT guys really don't touch programming at all and no CLI is not comparable.

>>108490601
Nuh uh

>>108486394
This was already the case before AI. There's a lot of drag and drop tools around like retool/klipfolio which dumb PMs can use to make their shitty dashboards like it was lego.
Our product team is already largely using those and they almost killed our prod postgres because I shit you not they run 1h+ long queries. We ended up giving them a separate replica db

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>>108490532
They hired you to fuck around so have fun anon.

>>108482771
It's like he doesn't understand that sharing his knowledge is more likely to eliminate him than lead to him advancing

>>108490636
>Speaking of which i gotta learn python scripting
I gotta learn (or rather, relearn) python to script hardware simulations kek
Can't escape the snake nowadays. Even outside of software/networking, it has become as prevalent on engineering as Matlab at its peak.

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>>108490798
I feel like the entire world's worth of industries is basically being skill laddered up. Meaning that entry level now requires mid level skills to get hired for the same amount of pay. Even my new hires are more competitive/educated at the level they are at compared to 10 years ago. Our new batch of Nepo hires have more formal education in IT from their high schools than we ever had a chance in schooling ever. That was back when most of my generation learned PC's through Torrents/Game Modifications and fucking around with Linux OS's.

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If you had two software engineering offers:

>One pays you $500k/year salary, but covers zero LLM tokens.
>One pays you $400k/year salary, but gives you $500/day free LLM tokens.

Which one are you taking?

>>108490867
500k obviously

>>108490867
500k you can make up for LLM tokens anon are you serious.

>have meeting with jeet
>3 minutes after the end of the meeting
>“Hi anon”

I can’t really tell if “Agentic” development is a meme or not. I don’t want to dive too deep into the topic and bump into a dead end when WW3 begins or the AI bubble finally fucking implodes…

>>108490974
???

>>108491044
Repaired the front door and active docs path, so now I'm wondering if my job is even worth what I'm paid, do you know?

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>>108490974
My reply to dumb questions desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S-myphRjU8

>>108490867
>>108490879
>>108490887
It’s a shitpost

>>108491325
proof?

How do we stop AI from winning? 90% of my coworkers use it and it actually has increased revenue, but we all know where this will lead, we will be replaced...

>>108488640
>>108488954
How do you pass interviews

>>108491737
not being ESL helps, ranjeet shitdik

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lol

>>108492055
he works at google, do you?

>>108492070
nope i am white therefore i have better odds for getting ahead in life by landing a burger flipper job and buying lottery tickets

>>108492085
Das rite timmy

It happened so quickly. I had the day off today, but I decided to check my work email just in case. A meeting created and named “FY Plans” was added to my calendar. Immediately I knew that it was not going to be good news.

They said the company financials were not good. Which is bull crap. I had seen the numbers and they were good. But they still decided to lay off me and 20 others. I had an above average performance review for the last fiscal year. I was coming into the office as they mandated. I had survived a previous round of layoffs in 2024. I should have seen this coming since April is the end of our fiscal year.

I’m at a loss. I was working as a full-stack engineer for embedded products. 3+ YOE. I have my BS in CS and halfway done with my MSCS (which they were paying). In an industry that I thought was relatively stable. We were building real and useful products. But that was naive of me.

I have about 2+ years of savings to be good on my own. I am just dreading the job search now. Having to potentially commute hours of where I’m currently living. But I’m at least grateful to live near a big city. And the support of my family and boyfriend.

I am receiving severance and the details are yet to be worked out. I’m most concerned for my health insurance, most of all. I’ve heard COBRA is wildly expensive, ugh.

I’m hoping I can pivot to some kind of role that will be higher paying and more stable. Does anyone know if LeetCode is still relevant? Haha. I should’ve been grinding that instead of pouring my heart and soul into grad school. I need all the advice I can get.

>>108492098
reddit spacing, which subreddit is this from so i can copypaste from there as well to make the Jeets seethe?

>>108492098
R u a faggot or woman?

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>>108492070
he is currently unemployed and all of his previous tech jobs have been helpdesk.

>>108492233
It literally says he is a founder

new
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>>108486303
we accept your concession

>>108491737
With practice, not spilling spaghetti, and showing you're a gogogo dork. What's your ideal day? "A day where I'm productive and achieve results". GO GO GO!!!

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>>108489039
everyone but me got employed

>>108493305
Don't worry, I'm about to be dis-employed

>>108492027
The slippery slope…

>>108491276
Serious replies only. I’m actually employed and actively using this slop.

>>108491568
LLMs are still number crunching machines at the end of the day. IT and SoftEng can’t be truly automated as long as these models don’t show emergent critical thinking and a consciousness.