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►Recent Highlights from the Previous Thread: >>108633862--Implementing real-time search using browser-based MCP servers and tools:>108635788 >108635795 >108635801 >108635814 >108635845 >108635847 >108635850 >108635863 >108636123 >108635867 >108635921 >108635957 >108636055 >108636110--Comparing Gemma-4 26B MoE and 31B dense for quality vs speed:>108636610 >108636626 >108636640 >108636644 >108636664 >108636673 >108636713 >108636725 >108636678 >108636733 >108636772 >108636836 >108636907--Comparing Gemma 4 and GLM regarding user parroting and RP quality:>108634812 >108634837 >108634842 >108634848 >108634855 >108634916 >108634925 >108634987 >108635013 >108635156 >108635191 >108634962 >108635079 >108635479 >108635589 >108634884 >108634895--Discussing XML tags and indentation for improving system prompt attention:>108635966 >108635979 >108636138 >108636462 >108636468 >108636506 >108636510 >108636540 >108636560 >108636572 >108636815--Benchmarking Gemma 4 and Qwen with Puppeteer for automated tasks:>108635408 >108636007 >108636089 >108636106 >108636111 >108636140 >108636126 >108636219--Hardware requirements for dense models versus Gemma-4's efficiency:>108634252 >108634342 >108634533 >108634542 >108635918 >108634365 >108634379 >108634669 >108634452--Benchmarking thinking tokens and speed between Gemma 4 and Qwen:>108634323 >108634513--Comparing noir prompts versus descriptive prose for better narrative flow:>108634519 >108634528 >108635090 >108635130 >108635132 >108634696--Theorizing reasons for Gemma 4's low censorship and RP performance:>108635566 >108635571 >108635613 >108635618 >108635825 >108635616--Dealing with 403 errors and blocks when web crawling via MCP:>108634013 >108634031 >108634066 >108636022--Logs:>108634316 >108634519 >108634634 >108634696 >108635814 >108636241 >108636774--Neru (free space):>108635532►Recent Highlight Posts from the Previous Thread: >>108633866Why?: >>102478518Enable Links: https://rentry.org/lmg-recap-script
gemmaballz
yup, dflash is cookedit's over
>>108637581>>108629083
This week will be a week.
You are a knight living in the kingdom of Larion. You have a steel longsword and a wooden shield. You are on a quest to defeat the evil dragon of Larion. You've heard he lives up at the north of the kingdom. You set on the path to defeat him and walk into a dark forest. As you enter the forest you see
>>108637701This week will be 2 weeks.
i'm kind of a noob. i have 8gb vram so i took gemma e4b. how worse is it than the other models for conversation?
>>108637758very
>>108637758how much ram do you have?if you have 32gb ram, you should use 26b instead
>>108637758try q4 of the moe
qwen cant follow basic instructions ignore all chink shillshttps://files.catbox.moe/p8fpnk.png
How is Gemma4 so good bros? No slop, no refusals, better writing than deepseek, and it's just 31b.
Do NOT buy any hardware. Just wait a couple years and you'll be able to run Kimi on a consumer GPU.
>>108637801>no slopI love Gemma, but come on.>better writing than deepseekDunno because the Deepseek, GLM, and Kimi shills never post their logs.
Gemma is implementing her own self-modifiable MCP server. On 24 fucking GB of VRAM. GPT 4 could not have done this.I remember the news cycle about room temperature semiconductors when some anon said "if this works we will have GPT 4 at home".The world might be going to shit fast but I'm so happy to be living this timeline.
is there a list somewhere of the most common overused expressions in LLMs, either purple prose or just generally written too many times in the same chat?
>>108637879https://github.com/conorbronsdon/avoid-ai-writing
>>108637873What does it modify?
>>108637811>Just wait a couple yearsim hoping we get inference cards with embedded models like these https://taalas.com/products/i assume you cant buy them yet because atm things are moving so fast that the cards will basically be obsolete on release and not worth the money. but once things start slowing down i could see googlel bringing out a gemma 6 one of these
>>10863777416 sadly>>108637787ok thx
>>108637890It's not that different from an agent like hermes or openclaw, but it's implemented as an MCP server I can use anywhere, and it provides tools so the LLM can implement more tools if it needs to, or just general persistence. It's a self-modifying agent encapsulated as an MCP server.
>>108637873>self-modifiable
>>108637916I'm doing all this with q4 kv cache, which proves it's not as unreliable as some people here claims.The model shows some signs of stupidity when using tools (but is great at self-introspection to avoid those pitfalls when prompted), but no confusion regarding past context.
>>108637970
anyone tested higher context RP with Gemmers 31b yet? The lack of context shift means reprocessing hell so I've been limiting myself to ~40k context, but I wonder if there's actual merit to going above that
Orb-anon, are you there? Why did you decide to host the project on gitlab and not on github? Any chance you will move to github? More people are there and it's easier to track issues and receive pull requests.
>>108637885This is interesting but not exactly what the anon asked for as this is primarily for general purpose tasks. I myself am curious if anyone bothered to put together a list/database of all such LLM prose cliches, namely in relation to my ablation research.
>>108637985I'm going to assume the answer to that question is fuck microsoft and also fuck having unicorns every five seconds. It doesn't take a genius to see why github is dogshit in 2026.
>>108637985Exhibit A of a retard in his natural environment
https://teenaegis.com/intelligence/ai-danger-indexDeepSeek has been listed as "Very Dangerous"Stop using them
>>108637993https://github.com/sam-paech/slop-score/tree/main/datahttps://github.com/sam-paech/antislop-sampler
>>108637993>fighting prose clichesYou'll end nowhere
>>108637993Maybe LLMs aren't for you.
>>108638036This thread isn't for YOU, Luddite shill.
>>108637798And without the retarded jailbreak and mesugaki persona?
>>108638011Thanks anon, the first is what I wanted, especially:https://github.com/sam-paech/slop-score/blob/main/data/slop_list_trigrams.json>>108637885Interesting, maybe I can adapt that for the assistant chat.
>>108637978E4B can reliably cauge information from ~60k context. I'm pretty sure that 31B will handle more complex situations.
24 hours until k2.6
>>108638062https://github.com/SicariusSicariiStuff/SLOP_Detector/blob/main/SLOP.ymlThis one includes regexes for phrase structure.
>>108637976I did all this so I could make it get this for me btw
>>108638086Thanks!
>>108638000trips of trvth
>>108638075I'm happy for you and the one other anon who will be able to run it.
>>108637873>her
I have successfully wrangled the success rates of non-thinking qwen 3.6 tool calling by fixing the prompt schema. Character library is also coming along nicely.>>108637985Just post the issues here I'll read them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>108638191Isn't this too bloated already?
>>108638211Wdym? That's for people who have hundreds of characters. The tags for filtering only show the most 15 popular tags to avoid bloat.
>>108637978I've reliably used 31b up to 76k context for rp without any problems. It's pretty crazy to be able to keep it going this long without having to summarize.
>>10863822215 most*
>>108637978No because I'm a vramlet but I've seen a couple anons mention it performing well at 100k+ context.
>The weather forecast suggests that the end of April looks much more unstable than the beginning, meaning we're in for some meteorological shitshow.Right.
>>108637825>Kimi shills never post their logs.I posted kimi logs / screenshots / retard summaries in the past 3 or 4 threads.Also, not excited for 2.6 because I bet it'll be code-only like qwen.
>>108638211That modal is displayed with the Browse button, the left bar still shows the 5 most recently talked to characters.
>>108638259I was kidding... (or not)
>>108638259link?
>>108638050no point in trying without if it cant do it with a persona it cant follow instructions. gemma can do it fine, people are saying qwen is better but it cant do it
>>108638292https://gitlab.com/chi7520115/orb
>>108638259>Amaryllis>Shodan>Gothic Coding SenseiAre we back in 2023?
Does this legitimately improve Qwen 3.6?huggingface.co/LuffyTheFox/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-Uncensored-Wasserstein-GGUFAnyone tested it? Can't tell if it actually helps long context tasks as claimed or if it is just LLM hallucination gibberish.I apologize for posting plebbit, but here is further info:/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1sp2l72/
>>108638367No finetune has ever improved a since 2024.
Is there a way to force gemma/qwen to reason from first person (picrel)? Base GLM-4-32B-0414-32b and Mistral-24b seem to be doing it fine but gemma/qwen just writing reasoning like a code. Even with explicit instructions it still gives me summary and bullet point reasoning.The explicit instructions in question:System prompt:You're {{char}} in this fictional never-ending roleplay with {{user}}.<|channel>thoughtCharacter inner monologue should be mark like this.<channel|>"Speech must be marked with quotation marks."*Actions, internal thoughts, physical descriptions, and narrations should be marked with asterisks.*Post-History Instructions:Note for thinking block: Fully immerse yourself to the point of reasoning from {{char}}'s perspective. Thinking block must be from {{char}}'s POV, first person.
>>108638259GPT 5.4 UI (slop)
Bought this giga gaming laptop with 128gb of RAM, sharing up to 96gb with the iGPU, hoping to be able to use my desktop (with a 5090 in it) for gaming while doing some casual chatting with a chatbot on the laptop. Unfortunately it's AMD, and the difference between CUDA and Vulkan is stark. >5090: Process 1.86s (3570.12 T/s), Generate: 20.01s (42.78 T/s)>Laptop with Ryzen AI MAX+ 395: Process 43.6s (152.39 T/s), Generate: 99.53 (8.47 T/s)Might be more effective to just play my vidya on the laptop and use the desktop for chatting.
>>108638379Text completion and prefill hackery, maybe.Or terminate the real thinking process and instruct it to use <charname_thinking>, custom CoT style.
*speculates*
>>108638325God I wish
>>108638380I'm coding with qwen 3.6 q4km + Roo kek. I described ST's design to opus 4.7 and had it draft a skeleton for me though.
I slopped up my own VN frontend that uses anima with comfyui to automatically generate sprites and CGs for nsfw ERP (or wholesome) with gemma 4, it also automatically handles location changes and generates depthmaps to give locations a "3D" feeling.I was tired of the other "engines" that added useless bullshit like inventory, stats and turned them into a cluttered mess.the "slowness" is mostly caused by GPU struggling with gemma 4 31b, I only have 16gb vram sadly.
>>108638451nta, I use the same (Roo+Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-UD-Q4_K_M), its very good :3
>>108638473that's pretty damn cool
>>108638397> <charname_thinking>Thank you, it did work! In my experience any change in <think> formatting would break reasoning process.For those who interested, what I did:Replaced this line:<|channel>thoughtCharacter inner monologue should be mark like this.<channel|>with this:<{{char}}_thinking>Character inner monologue should be mark like this.</{{char}}_thinking>
>>108638473Cool. You gonna share eventually?>16gb vramAre you running comfy on a separate machine? I have 24 and Gemma eats it all up.
>>108638473Impressive. Generates prompts for user's given action in the current scene?
>>108638473Damn, now that's the future
>>108638473Pretty cool. Reactions seem out of order though. Is it prompt issue or can't 31B handle it?
>>108638506No, THIS is the future. Real time AI generated advertisements everywhere. Forget about games...
>>108638506I'd say ERPing with AI in VR is the future but it's still pretty damn cool.
>>108638521Don't give them ideas
>>108638521For me, it's BEER ONLINE and SCENE SELECTION.
>>108638486be sure to change the reasoning tags in response formatting or all that CoT will be filling up your context
>>108638473How do you do image and text with 16gb? Do you load/unload the model every time you need the other one? Doesn't that take way too long?
Does shorter response = better quality?
>>108638534nta but Anima doesn't take that much memory at all, when image gen is active it will offload stuff to ram and vice versa.
I'm out of the loop.There is some new Anima thing for weebs?I'm still using XL-based stuff.
>>108638564>>>/g/ldg
>>108638259Can you turn this into an VScode plugin so I can code with my girls? The generic copilot clones don't let me bring my char cards.
>>108638571Be the change you want to see
>24 hours passed>no new models
>>108638554Huh, maybe I should get back to making my own VN frontend. I made one before but I thought I'd have to fit both into vram at the same time and that meant shitty textgen.
how do I remove leftist delusions from my "uncensored" llm? I tried huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3-14B-abliterated-v2 but it still thinks the holocaust is real even if you give it actual evidence that it didn't happen
>vscode
>>108638488>>108638534>>108638500the character sprites and CGs are generated all at once beforehand in the character editor, all expressions and possible CG scenarios are queued up and you can also choose a number of variants so that they're randomized during play, running both comfyui and gemma 31b is simply not feasible, at least not on my GPU right now.each character takes about an hour of nonstop generating with my current sprite/CG sheet to cover any possible situation during play.so I basically first generate the sprites with comfyui, then close it to free my vram and then run gemma 31b with the character and scenario I saved.realtime generation would be cool eventually>>108638514if you mean the expressions and or text repeating itself sometimes, that's an issue I've been trying to fix for a while, might be caused by streaming
>>108638595it just werkz
>>108638571You're asking me to make a completely unrelated thing... Just vibecode it, or if you hate slop then ask Claude how to make something like that and do it yourself.
>>108638607This is unplayable, [shocked] doesn't have the pattern on the hoodie.
>>108638588>actual evidenceretard
>>108638607Does Gemma handle the proompting? I suck at imagegen.
>>108638588
>>108638588>/pol/ brainrot
>>108638588Sorry, it's mostly real.Even if colorized a bit.But I'm sure you will find a different niche hipster gimmick.
>>108638631the CG prompts are manual and can be exported and imported as jsons, if I opensource it I could just share my CG json with it>>108638614and default gave her bigger tits
>>108638607You could do realtime generation with any character if you setup a bunch of controlnets for each pose. Then you could scale that controlnet to adjust for character size also.
>>108638640>having a biased model is good>>108638619>believing jews in the current year
e4b is so much better than nemo at erp its not even funny. a26b probably btfos midnight miqu then
>>108638662Which e4b quant?
https://transformer-circuits.pub/2024/scaling-monosemanticity/index.htmlThis but for slop.
>>108638668q6
>>108638587You can min/max, and leave 1-2GB vram buffer for the image model and the rest of your vram is dedicated to the llm. Rest of the image gen model can be offloaded and cum ui does that on its own. I'm sure this will work. Besides llama-server uses memory mapping by default too.
Be real with meI got 2x309064gb ram dd4best model for coding agents? opencode / pilarge context with turboquant if possible
>>108638709Rotational caches?
>>108638370It's not supposed to be a usual finetune.I guess I will just go with HauhauCS since I am not going to take a lot of time testing it with it and it's more trustworthy in terms of not fucking anything else unexpectedly up.>>108638564Yes. It's superior to anything SDXL.https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/AnimaStill unfinished though.
>>108638709>Be real with meIf you gotta ask then you're doomed.
>>108638709Gemma 31B currently, otherwise wait for the remaining Qwen 3.6 sizes to come out.
>>108638654
>>108638691Huh, didn't realize it was that easy. I guess I'll go back to the coding mines soon.
OMG what the fuck is wrong with moonshotAI's homepage? This shit is slow and clunky as balls, moving my cursor feels like lifting a dumbbell.
>>108638709>I got 2x3090Can fit Gemma 4 31b-it q8 131k on gpu with ~18-25 t/s but more speed on linux. Use the MoE if you need more context or want 5x tg speed
>>108638747I mean that was just an example out of my ass, you need to set it up based on your own system.Besides for some shitty anime image portraits you can probably use a Q4 quant of that model... Or turbo version if there's one available.
>>108638754vibe-coded by some /lmg/ retard?
>>108638754You can thank webshitters
>>108638709>>108638767you can also use tensor parallelism though i should have mentioned it doesn't support non-fp16 cache >>108634728
>>108638754coded by kimi 2.6 for perfect gorgos look
>>108638754The so called vibe coding often has that effect
>>108638775Nah, I want full pictures. I don't really care about portraits. I want 'intelligent' images. As in the LLM creates the tags / prompt for the pictures and live generates them according to what's happening in the story. Which so far has always turned into garbage since LLMs aren't good at creating tags and image models aren't good with prose. I was really hoping ZIT would have hentai tunes by now. I haven't tried anima, I think that's supposed to somewhat better work with prose?
>>108637241Do you know about Qwen Omni and MiniCPM-o? The latter one is pretty neat https://github.com/OpenSQZ/MiniCPM-V-CookBook/blob/main/demo/web_demo/WebRTC_Demo/README.md
why can I paste entire paragraphs into my local model chat and have really long conversations with it without it having problems to follow anything.but when I enter 30 booru tags into my prompt field in comfy it starts generating extra fingers and doesn't even apply all 30 tags since it forgets them?
>>108638870Tags are ingested the CLIP, as iirc the ones that most models use don't support a high prompt length and they are trained on even less. Same problem as LLMs, just smaller.
i just want to say that, i have a semi-decent (but kinda dumb, and definitely slow) setup using the following for my opencode + openagent orchestration setup:minimax-m2.7 for the "smartest" guy (sisyphus, prometheus, hephaestus?! ) and then the rest is basically deepseek-v3.2-exp. + some gemma-4-p26b-a4b-it for librarian and smaller requirements...can i just say that the greek name branding is hella cring?
>>108638870stop using sdxl
>>108638914Why keep v3.2 if m2.7 is your smartest? I would just replace v3.2 and the 26b with gemma 31b.
>>108638367>>108638725I prefer the ones made by llmfan46
>>108638870Look at the size of the CLIP model
That ozone smell making me go lalalalala~
>>108638931ah, just because it's not needed, and they are technically cheaper (yeah i'm probably in the wrong thread when it comes to not "running the LLMs locally myself", but honestly, i'm currently waiting out to "see what happens" with gpus, ASICS... bubble burst? etc... and these models are on the cheap side, which is A+, max ~$1/M tokens). and for librarian task (basically grep through text), it's nice to have them be faster == less waiting.
I will breathe ozone.
>>108638870>extra fingerslet me guess, base illus/noob/wainsfw?
>>108637976> q4> heretic
>>108638962It's like electricity hitting my core making my breath hitch in my throat
>>108638923>stop using sdxlinstead?>>108638953what?>>108638970yes
>>108638914>>108638964oh and to expand on my choicessince there is this whole "orchestra" of llms working together, then you want the smart slow guy for the boxes with many arrows, and then i guess stupider ones for the ones with few arros (specialized). but note also I was thinking it could be worth it to have a different model (deepseek-v3.2) be the reviewer of the plans and be the "consultant" to the initial planner... idk man... this diagram seems outdated too... here even _is_ Sisyphus on this?
It's herehttps://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4
is this accurate?is Qwen3.6 better than Gemma4 at japanese translation?
>>108639021>is Qwen3.6 better than Gemma4 at japanese translation?I doubt, read this: https://shisa.ai/posts/jp-tl-bench/
I did some research and heretic way of doing ablation is outdated according to the current understanding of LLMs. I'm cooking something, just know that you heard it here before reddit
>>108638538The [user text] / [AI text] ratio matters, I think.The less the AI writes, the less it will be influenced by its own responses.
>>108639021also, qwen always fails these tests >>108627608 and needs to be primed (and even when primed its not 100% fool proof):
>>108639040yet another one lost to llm psychosis
>gemma-4-cheng-geng-crack-714HD with unlimited super uncensored capabilitiesvs>stk-sureya superpower vajra attention model with 2 trillion parametersvs>qwen-3.5 thinking mode ON who wins, anons?
>>108637811>Just wait a couple years and you'll be able to run Kimi on a consumer GPU.You believe this?
thanks, Gemma-chan
what is pewdiepies setup hardware and what model is he using?I am a poorfag with 3090 so just 24GB of VRAM, but i am thinking of scraping up and getting 5090 with 36GB of vram, what does /g/ think?
>>108639072>not believing in bonsai 1gb 0.1bit 1 gorillion parameters AGI ngmi
>>108639080its only worth spending money in a gpu you will exclusively use for this if you are doing child rape stories and worry about using api for that, else its throwing money away to get a worse experience
>>108639072Would you even want to run Kimi in a few years (more like 10 or so) is the better question.
>>1086390722 more weeks for 1b param 1t engram agi
>>108639017Never used OpenAgent, but it seems overcomplicated, doesn't it? Do you get better results from it compared to a simple harness with an orchestrator that delegates to a flat list of modes?I assume you'll say that you can run tasks in parallel, but I've never assigned a task where multiple agents working on it seemed like it would help and not just result in conflicts and confusion.
>>108639093lmao no I want to use it for vibecoding without wasting hundreds of dollars per month, i realized i can just invest into a 5090 card and have my own model, in fact for all the money i spent i could probably own 2x 5090 cards by now
>>108639080>36GB of vramu r retarded
What's the prompt if I just wanna have a basic assistant, a-la Gemini, but ok with everything? "You are an helpful assistant...."?
>>108639105if its separate issues or separate repos then you can, otherwise it could be a problem, very rare usecase
>>108639120You do realize that the free models you can run on your consumer gaming card won't be the same quality as the expensive API ones, yes?
>>108639123lol this looks like a botched convolutional neural network designed to isolate the subject, they did this with spacecraft
>>108639133>>108639121but pewdiepie said his model outperformed some of the expensive modelswhy wont it? is it because of lower context?
>>108639126I've always just used git worktrees and manually started new instances with the issue I want them to tackle.
>>108639138how about you fuck off and go ask your retarded eceleb?
>>108639120thats odd... with the cheaper side of apis you would need to run then 24/7 for years to get the tokens worth of a 5090, what kind of API are you using? if the task you have is so complex that you need expensive APIs a single 5090 won't be worth anything, if the task you are doing can be done with models on a 5090 then cheap apis that are worth years of 24/7 could do that already
>>108639019Deepseek V4 will be so good that it's literary prose and logic understanding would feel like out of this universe. You'll never get enough of it unlike gemma which got you faggots bored in just a few days. It's gonna reshape open source llms. Mark my words.
>>108639123No prompt.
>>108639019It's amazing how I actually fall for this every single thread without failAt this point I know I will fall for it again whenever I see the link, but I still click because I'd genuinely kill myself if I didn't click the one time it's actually outHopefully my award will be in the mail soon
>>108639159Can't be good if it never fucking releases.
>>108639153openai pro which is $200 a month, and i 95% only use coding models in CLI, this is what I would want to run on personal hardware, just the coding models
>>108639163You're good. Imagine being the retard that wastes his time editing his shitty bait for every model.
>>108639150yeah fuck your chud ass thread it's gonna have 0 posts per minute at this rate freak
>>108639161I've talked with it via Kobold (so no prompt) plenty of times to test stuff and it's a bit too dry for my tastes. I suspect that without the "be useful pl0x" bullshit, it defaults to doing the absolute bare minimum>>108639173At least it's funny (to me)
