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Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

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This may be a bit of a stupid question, but how big of an upgrade would going from this 3050 to a 5070 be? I really don't care about ultra high end games, I just want to play ffxiv with good fps on my 3440x1440. MB is an asrock b760m-c/d4, prebuilt I got as a gift I want to upgrade.

>>108766901
pretty good upgrade if you consider mfg
you get away from the vram limited scenarios for the most part

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>>108601078
>>108601088
>>108601094
>>108601140
>durrr only worth 400$!!!!! give me free stuff!
It sold for $900.

Starting to think /pcbg/ is just full off retards and browns.

Is ram going down anytime soon or should i bite the bullet and upgrade 32-64

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Last year I got this same exact kit from best buy for $70. What the fuck is wrong with the world.

>>108766908
yeah, because I tried running the Dawntrail benchmark at standard laptop settings and it only hit 8k
So I'm hoping upgrading the card will let me get that 8k+ but at maximum settings instead; unless I'm stupid and the cpu is holding me back

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oled monitor prices sales increasing, dipping even more, the oled manufactureres are getting desperate
hold the line soldiers, hold, the dip has not dipped

>>108766773
Hey! That's mine, based baker.
>270k is hot as fuck
I need to buy and upgrade the fans. I will probably buy like 6 Noctua fans. 270k is more than the case and air cooling can handle. I would recommend a 250k if you don't need the performance or a good AIO. My 9070 XT is fine, those little fans are not silent but they do the job.

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Is this a good deal? The whole bundle is basically the price of the CPU alone. What's the catch?

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>>108766941
This isn't over by a longshot, mon ami. I saw a deal on best buy this week for 32gb 6400mhz for $360.

Probably good for most users. I need more since I plan to do local ai. I'm still looking around

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Seriously fuck DisplayStreamCompression.
Visually lossless my ass. It's also adding 0.5ms-1.5ms of lag which is huge from a 0.03ms GTG OLED.

>>108766916
>retards and browns.
Just like whoever paid $900 for that piece of shit

>>108767027
its kinda compromise thing since people dont want a shitty mobo, they dont want only 16gb ddr5, they dont want a 6 core cpu

>>108767027
Single channel ram is a 10 percent performance drop in games.

Depending on how many applications you have running, you'll need to add a second stick for more ram anyways

>>108767027
the ram might be doa and you have to waste gas to do an exchange

>>108767058
Mad cause you're wrong.

>>108766985
Like, if my goal is max ffxiv settings on a 3440x1440 monitor, is a 5070 overkill and I go for something a bit cheaper? Do I need to also go for a different CPU instead of my i5-13400F? Once again, my apologies if I'm asking stupid questions, I really haven't done PC building at all before.

>>108767061
>>108767063
>>108767064
So basically it's a scam. Thanks for the warning.

>>108767037
are you sure that's dsc and you didn't enter some downsampled state like 442 420

(yes im calling you retarded)

>>108766916
>I scammed some poor retards out of an extra $500
Congrats anon

>>108767090
The parts alone were worth $800.
You're wrong, just get over it. Also no need to reply to the post twice.

>>108767089
In its core essence, DSC would never be better than the quality of uncompressed display streams, similar to a JPG image or H.264 video stream it never will be as good as a RAW stream or PNG.

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>>108766773
5 YEAR CONTRACTS FOR SSDs. AHAHAHAHAHA

https://youtu.be/r3FKd4nWxVo?si=62NwIW-XBot0RK-E

>>108767073
You could build something new for $900, retard who decided to buy off of jawa taking the bait makes no difference, it's still not worth that much
I genuinely think you're about to get scammed somehow. Like he's going to do a chargeback or say it doesn't work and send back an empty case.

>>108767134
It is new parts, you fucking retard. Hahaha. You can't even read. You're omega brown.

>Like he's going to do a chargeback
Considering the payment is through Jawa, that can't even do that. And Jawa handles both buy and seller insurance. Also something you can read.

>>108767100
>In its core essence, DSC would never be better than the quality of uncompressed display streams
yes but it's only noticable if you zoom into pixel level and compare singular pixels, guys already mad way more comprehensive comparisons than your picture

looks like color fringing like the chroma subsampling due to you increasing the hz and needing to fit the bandwidth, dsc does not look like that

(yes im calling you retarded)

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>>108767171
look at all this shit involved before its presented to frame. dsc will never be good.

>>108767156
>It is new parts
Uhm sweety the 3070 is from 2020 and alder lake is 2021
You don't get the money until 48 hours after it's delivered with no complaints or requests from the seller, and predditors complain about the seller protection on jawa

>>108767199
You can still buy unused parts of things that were released years ago.

>>108767199
>sweety
So you're a /v/tard. Explains how brown and dumb you are.

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>>108767194
ok I will put your shit posting to an end
terrible shit post overall

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>>108767080
So yes or no? That's the only real big question I have remaining at the moment, so if it's cool then I'd be happy to know. Or happy to not it's not, I guess.

>>108766989
It's not worth holding for too long. I've had my 4K 240 Hz OLED for over a year, and the price has gone down by $100. Not worth waiting a year to save $100

>>108767134
>it's still not worth that much
It's worth almost exactly that much, though.

GPU - ASUS RTX 3070 8GB OC DUAL ($300)
CPU - Intel Core i5-12600KF ($160)
RAM - Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 ($220)
FAN - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ($35)
MoBo - ASUS B660M-P D4 ($50)
Case - Okinos Cypress 3 ($50)
SSD - Patriot P400 Lite M.2 PCIe Gen 4 x4 1TB ($120)
Extra Top Case Fans - be quiet! Pure Wings 3 140mm x2 ($24)

>>108766941
>Is ram going down anytime soon
No

>>108767258
5070 is best value gpu rn

>>108767490
>used 3080 12gb

They're like $350 - $400 right now and have 85% of 5070 performance for $200 less. They are old though, albeit

>>108767490
that tracks since the 5070 is a 60 class gpu

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Remember to always buy Intel to support Israel's economy!

>>108767490
So that's a yes then? Coolio.

>>108767582
None of those are the latest cpus. When I see 1.4a or 3nm on those charts, then I'll be concerned. Until then, tsmc is reaping most of the reward

>>108767264
>100
nah prices need to dip 50% more by default

worth waiting if you arent poor? no obviously

>turn of pc
>clean pc
>turn on pc
>monitor dead
>all cables fine
>new cables fine
>everything secured
>monitor just dead

NOOOO IT'S ONLY 14 YEARS OLD AND BEEN THROUGH MULTIPLE REPAIRS INCLUDING NEW POWER BOARDS AND RECPLACING LIKE 10 DEAD CAPS IN IT NOOOOO HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN I DON'T WANNA BUY A FUCKING MONITOR NOOOOOO

>>108767629
buy a new monitor
theres good 4k 32" qd oleds now

>>108767643
Oleds are a meme. CRTs from 25 years ago look better when playing vidya on them

>>108767599
Intel uses the Intel 16 node which is an upgraded 22nm for the interposer die on their latest chips.
If you buy the latest Intel cpus you give them money to keep the fabs in Israel running.

>>108767027
They had another deal just like this one, except with an MSI mobo. I pray every day that it gets restocked.
>>108767064
Is the g.skill ram bad? I figured it was the ASRock + AM5 chip that was the problem.

>>108767104
Somewhat predicted this was the way things were heading.
We don't have the luxury of securing bulk supply on contract so of course they aren't going to pander to a market that buys their product situationally every few years.
This is why I've been predicting that consoles will come out of this relatively unscathed. Sure the prices are being bumped up a little bit to compensate as with all tech, but console manufacturers can secure supply for their parts on contract. Whereas hobbyist pc builders aren't buying on contract.
Something I wouldn't have said a few years ago: I really hope the prebuilt pc market fortifies itself as they could keep pc building alive, otherwise we're probably fucked and looking towards a future where more and more manufacturers step away from the consumer market to tailor to these bulk buyers.
Maybe Valve is onto something creating the Steam Machine and ARM compatibility. Maybe they straight up see the consumer pc market poofing soon and are trying to make sure they have a way to make sure Steam is still accessible without the ability to build a pc.

>>108767799
Honestly I have a hard time believing every company in the PC building space is acting in good faith right now.
It's easy to say that there is just no supply but there has to be a no zero chance G.skill, Corsair, etc are just taking the piss right now and slurping up some extra profits.
Also I don't believe buying is "situational" maybe it was at one point but I see too many people way to emotionally invested in everything right now. Would just be another opportunity for companies just to charge more if they know people will buy regardless.

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https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-26-5-1.html

Update now

>>108767532
Not worth it, considering they have no warranty, use a huge amount of power (heat+noise, not talking about a piddly power bill), lack ML FG, and generally have worse tensor cores, which are being massively leveraged by new games. RTX 50 is substantially faster when using higher quality DLSS models like 4.5 M

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valid question
https://youtu.be/2Zfhn0EcpfM?t=248

>>108767027
I said "get sixteen cores" not "get sixteen gigabytes".

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>pg32ucdmz 730€
>S90f 65" 1280€
>have to conserve money now and In no spot of consooming

Anyone experienced with AI? Im planning to buy the 5070 for gaming and stable diffusion. Thats about as much as I want to spend
Is it worth considering the 5060 ti 16gb or is that just for things like training and LLMs?

>>108768380
16gb vram GPU minimum
24gb vram GPU recommended
Or get a m1 mac

>>108768380
I would say that more VRAM is better for AI. If you want to do anything agentic, you'll need multiple blackwell pros chained together. Can't really comment on SD. Ask in one of the other generals to find out whether they recommend a 5060 ti 16 gb or a 5070 if your other priority is gaming. Obviously the 5070 is generally better for gaming

i discovered that the clicking noise my desktop was making was part of a power cable that was stuck in a gpu fan but sometimes the fan could force a turn to the next blade, producing a click. now every time i hear a click i have to wonder because my case doesn't have a gay window.

>>108768380
If you want to use AI then you need the most VRAM you can get. It doesn't matter if you have a faster gpu if the AI model won't fit on it due to low VRAM.

>>108767933
AMD won

>>108767583
Okay, one final for real question; I'm also getting an 850W PSU (Corsair) as well to replace the 650W the prebuild came with; Should I just replace the PSU first before I replace the 3050 with the 5070, or should I do them both at the same time?

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>>108767933
>no new fsr
why did you even post this?

>>108767027
Pretty good deal, considering the current market. You can add a second identical stick of RAM later

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my gpu died, thinking about 5070, is there a recommended SKU?

kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCzLqQdpAXY

>>108766773
how good is the rx9070xt?
can i play NTE?

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What happened to hard drive coolers?

>>108768707
Sorry, 5070/4080+ only

>>108767027
1 stick of ram el oh el

my monitor died please recommend me one

and is it worth going 4K? I have a 5070TI

My monitor should not have died. It was only 14 years old. Gone too soon.

I really wonder when Steve is gonna catch on he's doing free QC, QA and engineering for TRYX. This is like the 3rd piece of trash bit of kit they've sent him to basically fix for them.

>>108768816
https://us.ktcplay.com/products/27-inch-4k-hdr1400-miniled-gaming-monitor
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/aoc-27-qd-oled-qhd-240hz-g-sync-compatible-03ms-gaming-monitor-black/JX9GSKP9H6/sku/6641760

4k looks sharper but is harder to run, qd oled looks better than miniled. avoid dsc at all costs especially on nvidia.

>>108768816
4K 240 Hz OLED
No other option is worth it

>>108768829
>avoid dsc at all costs especially on nvidia.
oh god what is this now? I thought display panel types was all i had to worry about

>>108768573
Pick ASUS Prime over the Ventus or Eagle/Windforce if the price difference is minimal.

>>108768734
nvidia is expensive in my country

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>>108767933
The only useful post here. Thanks, anon.

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>>108768440
So at the same time, or separately?

>>108767643
>doesn't last 14 years
Scam

>>108768839
if you use displayport 1.4 you cant do higher than 1440p 240hz or 4k 120hz without dsc. using dsc can bug out nvidia gpus alt tab and it disables features like dldsr and just makes the image worse despite being "lossless".

you avoid all these issues by using hdmi 2.1 or displayport 2.1.

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>>108768864
The driver runs UE4 and UE5 games better including Wuthering Waves & NTE.

>>108768909
>displayport 2.1.
this shit alone is adding like $300 to a monitor what in the fuck

>>108769298
it's been tested many times, and dsc isn't a problem at all on 4k monitors. you're being memed

>>108769298
mostly the fact that only newer monitors will have it and newer monitors will be more expensive

>>108768713
What happened to hard drives in general?

>>108768816
Get a 4k monitor. Oled if you want the best quality but it only lasts 3-4 years or an ips for around $300 which lasts longer but doesn't look as good.
I have a 3060 and use a 4k monitor. I use DLSS when gaming and it looks way better than 1440p.

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Have the choice between two 5060 Ti 16GB models that are the same price. Is there a great benefit having more three fans over two?

>>108769367
At the capacities that most people need the material cost of a HDD makes SSDs that much better in terms of cost/performance

>>108769392
If you don't have a size constraint in your case then presumably the 3 fan version will cool better / be quieter

How bad is OLED for productivity (coding and maybe art stuff) when compared to IPS and is 32 inches really that good for 4k? Do you think it might be too big over 27 inches?

>>108769392
If the extra fan is the only difference, the two-fan 5060 ti doesn't really have thermal problems. Especially if you undervolt.

>>108769392
on a 5060ti it's solely aesthetics

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>>108769452
>Do you think it might be too big over 27 inches?
if anything it's not big enough it just didn't make that much of a difference and 27" 4K has far superior clarity especially for coding and art. I thought it'd be better to have 32" but seeing both side by side the 27" was just a much better picture. The size difference sounds good on paper (40% more real estate) but it just doesn't translate as way bigger in real life at least it didn't for me. If you want to go bigger than 27" you are better off skipping to a 42" TV. Or maybe that new 5K 39" display but I haven't seen that in real life.

>>108769298
so use hdmi 2.1

>>108769452
don't get an OLED for coding, the IDE will get burned in

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>Look up a SATA SSD to revive an old laptop with a 1050Ti
>75 dollars for 480gb
>Tripled in price in six months
>Almost 4 times the price from all time low in 2024
Back in my day old tech got cheaper with time not more expensive

>>108769835
these days you buy at launch
our useless tech only appreciates in value now

>>108769835
Just be happy you got to experience the good times at all.

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>>108769836

bro why the fuck have micro sds doubled in price???

Debating between buying a 4K Dual Mode monitor or a regular old 1440p

Anyone here bought a Dual Mode monitor? How are you liking it?

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these are the most jewish prices I've ever seen

>>108770519
What are the best overall Gen4 SSDs

>>108770201
probably the jews

>>108767712
oh no!

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>>108767712
>If you buy the latest Intel cpus you give them money to keep the fabs in Israel running.

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Is this worth buying in today's market? I have a 3080Ti & Ryzen 9 5900X. I plan on using the 2TB NVMe from my current PC until prices go down, then I can use my old PC for an entertainment setup. I'm also considering waiting for a 6090.

>>108770624
just keep the 3080, everything released after it so far is absolute garbage fraction of a percent increases, waste of fucking money

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>>108770624
Just wait

>>108769835
it was cheap and then AI speculators bought all the storage and ram.

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What are the best overall GPUs with the longest value

>>108768816
>and is it worth going 4K?
yes

>My monitor should not have died. It was only 14 years old.
lucky to get 2 years now from an lcd (LCDs last forever enthusiast are in for a rude awakening)

>>108768829
>avoid dsc at all costs especially on nvidia.
certified retard

>>108768839
>>108768909
>using dsc can bug out nvidia gpus alt tab and it disables features like dldsr and just makes the image worse despite being "lossless".
literally retarded and spreading false info AND he's on a 5000 series gpu which fixed issues you talk about
is this the dsc not lossless retard from earlier?
DON't be retarded

>>108769387
>which lasts longer
lcds last forever(tm)

>>108769492
at the same ppd they look the same... your viewing distance matters

seems like most prefer 32" going by the stats I've seen

>>108769836
slop

>>108770216
do you need 500hz 1440p or not
else there is no point

>>108770774
90 series because they hold value or increase until next gen for the full warranty cycle then you roll back into the new 90 series and repeat the process
simple as

>>108770639
We waitfags are not being cared very good in these crazy ai times.

>>108770778
DSC is by definition not lossless
Under MOST circumstances you won't be able to tell the difference, but that's very different from being truly 'visually lossless'

time to start saving for an rtx 6090

>>108771008
why would you pay $4000 for a card that is 30% faster than a 5090

>>108771083
Why would you be poor?

Amazon are complete and utter fucking cocksuckers.
That is all.

>>108771083
It's gonna be 3x faster at running LLMs

I have some dirty underwear. I wounder if I could sell it for $4000.

>>108771166
only if you are a hot girl

>>108771170
I can generate some ai women.

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I have a ryzen 5600x and 4070S. Do I go 1440p?

>>108771412
4k is sorta viable, you can transformer model perf mode dlss, you can 1 x frame gen
you do want to upgrade to 5800x3d when that comes out

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>>108766773
Can anyuone here recommend me a good cheap pump for my retardo copper car radiator build?. I hear a d5 is pretty much required. I'm also considering running multiple pcs but for now I just have the 4090 and threadripper. Apperantly some new guy is dumping the 4090 EK blocks on ebay now for 60 dollars. Those things where like 300 with shipping new so I snapped one up immediately for my zotac. it's a shame I cant fill the additional slots I'm going to have with more GPUs unless I want to pay a gorillian dollars.

TL:DR what pump is best for a poorfag whos squeezing every penny with a car copper radiator?

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>>108767629
MY MONITOR IS ALIVE AGAIN
Leaving it unplugged all night worked? I guess the caps needed to fully drain? I dunno
I'm just glad I don't need to buy a new monitor holy fuck that market is a shitshow.

LET'S MAKE IT TO YEAR 15

I need a dirt cheap Mini ITX case for an FM2 5600K system with a K4000 in it for benchmarking map performance, what are my options?

>>108771789
>benchmarking map performance

>>108771789
>what are my options?
Use a micro-atx case.

>>108769401
>need
>in the context of building a PC
God I hate that word.

>>108771788
I did this once, it took weeks however, then it came back. I wonder why old monitors do this. It's spoopy.

>>108767582
I hate Jews but my 270K was fabricated in the US so I'm supporting my local economy. It was assembled in China but I hope more fabrication comes back to the US, and with prices as they are it might. It might take years but maybe US fabrication is the solution to the price problem.

Thoughts on the MSI PRO B850-P WIFI? I wanna put a 9850X3D on it.

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>>108771723
>poor fag
>boughted a 4090

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>>108766773
What is a good but not massively expensive AM5 with wifi motherboard for gaymin right now? I managed to get 16gb DDR5 5200mhz Corsair vengeance RAM and a Ryzen 7600 off eBay to upgrade my aging am4 build just looking for the final piece. My current build has a 750WCorsair modular PSU and a 4070 super and an ice 220t case, 3 1tb SSDs and 4 cheap artic p12 case fans I added, they do the job. Also for a 7600 will a stock cooler be fine or is it worth upgrading and to what cooler?
>>108766901
Speaking as someone who went from a 1660super which is close to 3050 tier to a 4070 super which is almost exactly the same as a 5070 the difference is huge. Except for borderlands 4 that game runs like ass with the 1% lows so much that I'm hoping an AM5 upgrade will help.

>>108766916
>900 for an am4 build with a 5 year old graphics card that doesn't hit the minimum 10gb vram requirements that ue5 games have now.
Whoever paid more then 500 for this is illiterate.

>>108766980
Elon musk's AI saar bubble. It hasn't popped yet.

>>108767027
If it wasn't for one stick of ram I would say that is a great deal. I also don't know if the brand of ram is particularly reliable. I found eBay is good for ram right now as long as you are going for 16gb (2x8) ddr5

>>108771723
Freezemod store on aliexpress for cheap pump/reservoir combo. Get cheap SILICONE tubes and fittings there too. Unless you're murican in which case enjoy your tariffs you blessed patriot.

For ultracheap any pump will do. Some sites recommend certain ones if you look for "best cheap pump watercool pc"

>>108766773
considering swapping out cases, currently got the Corsair 3000D RGB AIRFLOW Mid-Tower ATX Case, and I'd like to swap it to a case with a bunch of front drive bays so i can put in a dvd reader and some other doodads, but i cant find any cases, seems like they've been phased out sadly, only one i can find is the silverstone FLP02 which i think looks pretty ugly... do you guys have any case recommendations with drive bays? money really isnt a problem desu

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>>108770981
are you the guy that posted the bad image illustrating dsc? I already debunked you
stop posting schizoslop

your point is irrelevant

>>108772224
forgot to mention i have a 240mm radiator and only a 4060 2X so a case needs to be able to fit around those

>>108772077
>am4 build
>is illiterate
>clear says "Intel" in the image
I think you might be illiterate, bro.

encoding some anime to av1 stv and man I wish I had 270k rn

>>108772356
Me too
9800x3d is just too much of a one trick pony

>>108772422
then next gen theres new intel mobo platform and because its gonna be moderately popular the cpu will cost 50-100% more

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>>108772070
they where cheap a while ago bro.
got mine for 1500 originally.
>>108772218
this advice doesn't seem to take into account the radiator size nor even offer a particular model. also I am a burger yes.
>have you tried looking for "best cheap pump watercool pc"
of course I did that already. for my use case everyone recommends a d5, of those there appear to be hundreds of verieties alone. almost none are less than 100$ dollars though.

>>108772234
DSC sucks ass bro you're the only guy here defending this shit.

>>108772442
just tell me if you are the guy posting the original image where you implied that dsc was bad when it was croma subsampling so I know if you are actually retarded or just semi retarded

regardless you are retarded

why is this general suddenly so slow?

also what 2tb SSD n.2 nvme should I get?

>>108772536
its work day, americans are going to work around now, eu people are getting ready for evening and pph will slowly go up for the next 10h

some cheap 1tb sata drive to carry over the extreme pricing period

>>108772536
The schizos obsessed with trying to be the OP of the thread drove away a lot of people. They kept making multiple OPs and trying to force everyone to use their own thread.

Also, parts are extremely over priced right now, so less people are building.

>>108772536
only a handful of 5090 and 4090 fags are in this thread these days
everyone else are priced out of the diy market

>>108772598
most people should be able to buy a 5070 on klarna

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>>108772075
>AM5 with wifi motherboard for gaymin right now
The one that's on sale
>7600
Just keep the stock cooler until noise or temps start bothering you, ez

>>108772536
Threads slower than the ai generals but faster than everything else on the board when it's not spammed, there's like 5 people who consistently participate in this general.
>n.2
https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/search?sort=new&restrict_sr=on&q=flair%3ASSD%2B-%2BM.2

>>108772536
pc building is dead son
nobody buying at this price and these prices aren't going away

>>108770778
You seem really upset. Forget your bowl of jeetos this morning?

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>>108766916
I guestimated 700. this is based on modern gpu prices but with older ram prices. you scammed but not that hard i guess. not sure why you consider high trust behavior to be brown. maybe try living in telaviv or dehli?

>>108772868
Why is counting so hard for retards?
>>108767271

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>>108772878
3070 280
32gb ram, 70
ssd 50
mobo cpu combo 150~
psu 50
case and accessories- fucking irrelevant.
these are actually fair prices schlomo. they aren;t really a dream either I saw ram go for this just yesterday and they where also corsair ddr4 unregistered. your intel firehazard and intel firehazards in general are always stupidly over priced even on platforms that are long dead like 10th gen. maybe you could claim its worth 200 not 150 but thats about it.

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Trying to decide between bps of 5070ti in the Britbongs

MSI
>cheapest by far
>3 Year warranty
>Shitty heatsink?
>RMA process is said to be garbage, have to send to Poland

Zotac
>2 Year warranty + 3 more years if registered
>Mid build quality(?)
>UK based RMA

Gainward
>3 year warranty
>German (?) RMA

PNY
>2 years
>Apparently the best build quality because of their enterprise stuff?

Gigabutt and Assus are priced too high and seem to have trash RMAs.
I miss EVGA, man

>>108772903
>nooo!! you can't use current market prices!!
What an actual tard.

>>108772906
a plane ticket out of britain would be my number one priority if I lived there desu
>>108772912
those are the current market prices. search harder.

>>108772906
Excluding MSI, any of the 3. Their low end ventus cards are horrendous

>>108772917
Okay, link to listings with those prices.

>>108772819
I'm not

>>108772923
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw&_sacat=175673&LH_Sold=1
its literally built into the site you fucking homosexual jew. do it yourself. you should feel greatful i even bothered to reply to your cope.

>>108772949
Thanks for admitting you're wrong and can't find those prices.

>>108772954
>thanks for admitting I'm a lazy nigger that doesn't want to think less of myself for demanding goyim do my work for me
no problem. Existing on peoples kindness salts the earth you profit off of, but i know low trust brownoids like you find such concepts incomprehensible regardless.

>>108772967
What's the deal with brown people always trying to pretend they're white?

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>>108772973
no idea, maybe you should stop its really annoying when you people grift like that.

>>108772967
>>108772993
Same GPU:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/227190982666
$320

Same CPU:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/287298356033
$160

Same RAM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/287299940765
$200 (bids still going)

Same SSD:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/257456238731
$147

Even e-bay prices prove you wrong.

>>108772442
Do you happen to have a 15-16 year old acer monitor that you delusionally think looks better than newer monitors?

https://www.digitimes.com.tw/tech/dt/n/shwnws.asp?CnlID=1&Cat=40&id=0000754394_2M94CB7W8M7OAA5Z4THE5

apparently mobos sell less these days somehow

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>>108773059
I wonder why...

Now that the dust has settled...

What were the peak CPUs and GPUs?

>>108773137
3080 and 7800x3d are pretty good

>>108773059
I can't read ricegobbler.

>>108773150
chrome has translate page feature

>>108773153
sounds like a you problem.

>>108772993
>>108772949
Brown bro, why aren't you answering this >>108773009?

>>108773154
Try right clicking on the page and press "turn this language I cant read into a language I can read"

>>108773158
I don't think they should be allowed to touch computers.

I have a i5 12400f, and I'm planning on upgrading my CPU to a 9800x3D, is it true that 9000 series CPUs are getting killed by ASRock and ASUS motherboards ?
I was thinking on getting a Intel Core Ultra CPU before, but the motherboard supporting only 1 gen is quite disheartening.

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>>108773188
>I have a i5 12400f, and I'm planning on upgrading my CPU to a 9800x3D, is it true that 9000 series CPUs are getting killed by ASRock and ASUS motherboards ?

Wait for zen 6

>>108773137
What were the peak CPUs and GPUs?

>CPU

AM4 5800X3D
AM4 5950X

AM5 7800X3D
AM5 7950X3D
AM5 9800X3D
AM5 9850X3D
AM5 9950X3D2

Intel Core i9-14900K
Core Ultra 7 270K Plus

>GPU

2017 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB
2018 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB
2020 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24GB
2022 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24GB
2025 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 32GB

RX 7900 XTX 24GB
RX 9070 XT 16GB

>SSD

Samsung 990 Pro
Western Digital Black SN850X

>>108773188
If you buy am5 now it'll get 1 more extra gen, so after 9800x3d you wont be upgrading it.
You could buy intel 270k, get nearly similar gaming perf but 3x better multicore perf and also not upgrade it.

>>108773199
actually Zen 7 will also be on AM5

>>108773219
it'd be kinda weird not to design 2028 chips around a more optimized socket

>>108772536
>why is this general suddenly so slow?
nobody's building PCs and the AMD shitposter anime troon is banned

>>108773329
Right. Nobody knows what we should do. Is this the new reality? Do we wait for prices to go down?

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>>108773338
>Do we wait for prices to go down?

>>108773199
come on we all know everyone on arrow lake is going to upgrade to Nova Lake asap.

>>108772946
My bad.

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>>108768378
this but a new day again
I wanna consoom hardware but instead I have to conserve money and eat rice and water I guess for months
it's all so tiring

my real life will begin when I have a new pc I determine

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>>108773338
>Do we wait for prices to go down?

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>>108773338
>Is this the new reality? Do we wait for prices to go down?
Both

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>>108773338
>Do we wait for prices to go down?
For the 500th time, waitfag meta died long ago, we are now firmly in the moneymaxxer meta and the gpu housing market meta
you MUST buy into a XX90 series

if you don't you will stay poor and suffer
if not, you will live

choose your destiny

>>108773338
lol waitfags are still waiting for that 24GB 5080 SUPER

any day now!

>>108773199
I'm going to wait for Nova Lake then.
I do want a CPU with either X3D or equivalent, but I also want something better for productivity, so if a Intel i7 nova lake performs slightly worse than a AMD 10800X3D equivalent on games, but better on everything else, then it's good enough for me

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MLID NEVER LIES
MLID IS ALWAYS RIGHT

>>108773374
how many years ago was this? damn prices have sure changed.

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>He waited for the 5070 super

Can I just buy more VRAM and glue it to my 5070Ti?

>>108773374
I took the bait and decided to wait since the 5080 Super got my interest, but GPU prices started to increase tremendously so I decided to grab a 9070XT at the last minute, never again I'm listening to this faggot

>>108773374
remember green text means 100% confirmed and white text means it's not confirmed

>>108773374
>9080 XT
he just be saying anything

I wish it was safe to buy used parts from ebay, there are so many scammers.

I just want to build a PC for fun, but it's insane how expensive stuff is now.

Have a 3600x and don't want to upgrade to am5 and want to avoid the ram jew, what's my best option for a new CPU that isn't some ebay special x3d that I'm paying 300 dollars for. I have a local microcenter and I'm using it for gaming only.

>>108773711
5800X3D if AMD ever gets around to actually announcing the rerelease. 5800X otherwise.

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>she didn't buyed a 5090 msrp
>she didn't buyed a prebuilt on 36 month klarna payment plan and saved money with the gpu and mem and ssd increase
>she didn't buyed at all
could have saved alot of time hassle pain instead just buyed boughting in the first place

The Buyed More You Boughted -Jensen Hung

I'ts been years since I buit a pc, I never had amd and wonder if an 9950X3D and 7900XTX is a valid stable choice for gaming. Never had troubles with intel and nvidia, and heard a lot of complaints about amd in general. So what do you guys think?

>>108773815
on around 2k€ budget you'd typically go for 5070 ti, and 7800x3d
the expensive amd cpu is not good value, if you need multicore perf you buy 270k

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Should I get a used Dell P2715Q or a new LG 27BA45U-B as a secondary side monitor?
Need it to watch kpop fancams vertically in portrait mode so I can masturbate.

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16 threads is kinda shit when you actually want something done on a cpu, like having the intel estrogen cores to handle non-intensive tasks might be useful in real world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqegwfehWK4
$600 vs $1000 card, lots of benchmarks with current drivers

>>108774070
that's why they sell 16 cores 32 threads cpus

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>>108774168
it's alreay been solved

>>108774197
nvidia has so many interesting software features that amd is basically in same category as intel
they might be cost effective at a one specific niche thing, nvidia dominates as a package

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>>108766773
>I recycled all my boxes

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>>108774210
Its all ogre

>>108773341
ahhhh

>>108773367
I'm waiting for the 48gb celestial.

>>108773374
>5070 ti super 24gb
>$800
that would be pretty savage.

>>108773338
>Do we wait
I used to be a waitfag, I'm no longer a waitfag. I'm not saying that as a value statement, I don't think there is a way of knowing. It's a coin flip, if anybody knew the correct answer they could profit immensely. I see it as making the best choice I can now. I'll feel terrible when something better comes along in a few months but I'll get over it afterwards and enjoy my system for a few years.

>>108774262
how is it even possible to a a waitfag with buyers remorse? like do people not even have money?
the answer is, yes
because I know the truth of poverty
like everyone is a borderline neet or what? if you spend money it will never be seen again
it's literally impossible if you buy hardware and it will last you 3 years before anything better comes along
but I do get the regret if you buy a shitty platform and it's unstable and shit and unusable or something, or a bad screen, or tv
yeah that will drive you insane, but you have returns before that hopefully you realize
like holy hell just buy the shit, I would, if I could
now I have to suffer with NO FUN

>>108774325
If you miss out on a deal or if things go up in price like it keeps happening it sucks. It's all about timing.

>>108774388
if you bought it at a reasonable price it doesn't matter
the more money you have the less it matters
you had product long before that happened

>>108774262
it's been a few months and my pc is worth $1000 more than when I built it
I'd gladly tell others to wait but the prices do not give a shit
I already regret not buying another HDD

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>>108774211
>He didn't keep the GPU box
It's fucking over
Trying to time the all-time low price for a product purchase is stupid btw.
Buy the PC parts if it's close to the ATL price and if you really need it.

Not buying something and watching the price go up and out of reach is one thing but buying something and watching the price go down is 10x worse.

Then you feel like a retard.

>>108774428
I was explaining why it would suck to wait.

>>108774556
If RAM goes down I'll buy more, If memory goes down I'll buy more. It will suck for the CPU and GPU to go down but even then I still have it. If I close my eyes price drops can't hurt me.

>>108774552
I'll have my 4060ti 16gb for 20 years, then I'll be dead

I never really realized how much you get limited by what gear you have at your disposal. I kick myself for waiting so long to buy stuff.

Have you ever hot glued your GPU?

>got myself a new mobo
>install it and works fine
>decide to upgrade case too
>test 3.0 USB slots after being done
>one of four slot doesn't work
>reattach the cable
>doesn't change anything
>decide to swap the cables
>suddenly the slot works again
>slot from the other cable now doesn't work anymore
fucking shit. given the manual there is nothing with lane bullshittery as both usb 3.0 front panel connectors go to the same hub and the front panel clearly works

>>108774552
>>He didn't keep the GPU box
This was more of a big deal than I thought. I sold my old GPU for $60 more because I kept the box. There's a lot of boxfags out there.

>>108774582
>If RAM goes down I'll buy more, If memory goes down I'll buy more.
Good thing you don't have to worry about that.

>>108774210
>nvidia
>"let's innovate on our product."

>AMD
>"let's take money from nvidia and Intel so they don't get hit with a monopoly."
>"guess we sell gpus now"

The rx 6000 series cards aged like complete shit. Man oh man imagine being the guy who bought a 6900xt over a 3080 for 1000 bucks.

>>108775026

20xx was a filler gen to get over shit rt cores and shit dlss 1,
3080 was THE card to get, every gamer wanted it only to suffer scalpers and cryptominers, it was the card that launched with the good dlss 2
then subsequent nvidia gens didnt improve upon it much at similar price points so it seems better relatively speaking

idk what happened in amd camp besides them not pursuing AI features at all

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pulsar monitors came and went
hardly any sales hardly any content
nobody gave a shit about them at all
this is tech that basically solved all motion blur for ips panels and put them on par with like $1000+ 360Hz oleds when it comes to motion
nobody gave a shit
nobody bought them
because it wasn't oled

So I think it's safe to say that OLED won.
Not only has it won it has totally crushed any competitors. People don't buy a new monitor now unless it's an OLED one. Oled won.

>>108775026
>The rx 6000 series cards aged like complete shit.
that's what AMD does
all the time

>>108775026
3080 10gb which is the main version everyone purchased can't play new games at 1440p with high resolution textures. 6900 XT can. End of discussion.
>inb4 muh upscaling
Just get fsr4 optiscaler
>>108773374
>>108773472
You guys are retarded supers were planned by nvidia coming, that MLID leak was before the ram crisis. How the fuck is he or nvidia supposed to have magic foreknowledge of future market conditions that render current plans untenable?

>>108774197
I turn off everything, antialiasing etc.

Why?

Not only greater performance, for example, if you have 1080p you will not get solid frames on a 5090 if you have enough stuff turned on, but also if you are using fake frames it's even worse in terms of the actual impact on actual felt latency.

Overall, here's the thing, everything that nvidia markets is something I don't like, except for vram.

>>108774262
I'm hoping to do well in a financial meltdown. that's my hope. I don't have a job, so it's improbable, but it's my only lotto tick

>>108775246
theres a million untermensch just like you
why would you do specially well instead of immediately killing yourself
work ethic and social skills?

>>108773156
>samefag niggerjew thinks my time belongs to him
no need to answer retards scamming retards. if they where looking for fair prices instead of bots buying obvious scams or ripoffs thats on them.

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>Every single monitor I look at that I'm interested in
>that banner is there

well, I guess this market really is fucked

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Yeah my 3080 is so awesome guys I love getting bad fps and frametime stutters trying to play games with a resolution and settings that's reasonable to expect for a card that costed 700 USD (real scalped price more like 1000 USD) at launch because njudea wanted to save 50 cents on vram. DLSS 4.5 I can't even use because it's too much for my cards shitty old tensor cores and will tank the fps (meanwhile latest fsr 4.1 with a simple 1 minute installation mod works on almost every game for all rx 6000 gpus) looks so FUCKING GOOD!!!

>>108775304
are OLEDs a joke wtf this on like every oled monitor

>>108775304
>>108775314
That's MSI brand page not their OLEDs. You don't see this for Alienware OLEDs.

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well it's not just oled even IPS is getting it
man, this market is trash

>>108775340
You're looking at brand page they all say frequent returns if it's any big IHV.

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>>108775348
no I'm clicking on the models for the pages it's changing depending on the monitor Alienware's getting it too

>>108775340
>>108775304
Anon like every single PC case and motherboard also says this

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finally a monitor buyers like

>>108775355
You are literally looking at "top brand" and all top brands have frequent returns.
>>108775356

>>108775362
Amazon often confuses Dell and Alienware.

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>Lowball an offer on ebay for 5060 ti 16gb
>he actually accepted
Wait it was just a joke im not ready to make a new build yet.

>>108774211
my dad has been using the box my case came in as floor protection for almost a decade

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>>108775105
>3080 was THE card to get
Well I got a 3090 and now it's dead.

>>108775416
did you try the oven

>>108775420
time and temp?

>>108775436
check some youtube guide/reddit

I am a fucking retard so learn from my mistakes.

I really wanted a new monitor. I saw this video recommended to me about using a TV as a monitor. An LG C5. Title was something like “I’m never going back” or some bullshit.

Well I always wanted an OLED because I heard my modded retro consoles would look nice. I bought one.

Genuinely, it was one of the hardest displays to look at I’ve ever laid eyes on. With all the extra bullshit turned off in gaming mode it was raping my eyes. Super contrasty. Super saturated. Text when I plugged in my laptop looked like shit. The colors in general were so off. It was bizarre.

So then I return it and order an LG uktragear IPS monitor. It looks barely, juuuuuust barely better than my decade old Benq. Also it was actually fucked up, the HDMI kept cutting out randomly. So I’m returning that one.

So now my plan is just… sticking with my existing monitor.

Anyway don’t ever think a TV can replace a monitor. That shit is a meme.

>>108774822
>now the slots on both cables don't work anymore
>accidentally pulled the RGB shit connector out of the PSU slot cause the latch got stuck
I pushed it back and it still works but I think I'm done. Gonna return the case and maybe the mobo too.

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>finally done with the PC build
What's the verdict on these softwares?
Is it worth with a 5070 ti (16GB)?

>>108775567
I dont understand wp engine
if you own oled you likely just have black background
lossless scaling is an interpolation/upscaling app
its useful for anime perhaps, rpgm titles which dont support nvidia mfg?

>>108770778
>90 series
But when your house catches fire you'll lose both the GPU (so you won't be able to sell it) and your house

>>108775567
your gpu has upscaling why would you need the software hack

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>>108775420
Not going to risk flux fumes where I eat but I have a heat gun and some kapton tape so that's an idea.

>>108775586
>I dont understand wp engine
>if you own oled you likely just have black background
huh, I think that my monitor is a 2K IPS, so it should okay.

>>108775786
>your gpu has upscaling why would you need the software hack
It was mostly to watch anime in the best quality possible but yeah it's not mandatory in my case.

Should I get a water cooling block for my 5070ti?

>>108775825
>watch anime in the best quality possible
In general your 1st choice is seaching anime title + bd + 10bit on nyaa
A pirate copy of Topaz video can be used to solve some non-bd anime releases image problems.

>>108775825
>watch anime in the best quality possible
Maybe look into transformer AI models instead. You can run these through mpv in realtime.
https://github.com/the-database/mpv-upscale-2x_animejanai

Though I do like Lossless Scaling for frame interpolation on locked-60fps games

>>108775586
>>its useful for anime perhaps,
rtx super res will already do that

>>108775838
lol

why are 4K monitors still so damn expensive
the oled 1440p is $350 now they want $800+ for 4K

>>108775900
Off setting costs like burn in, returns for dead pixels since 4k monitor has 8mil pixels
the 350$ monitor is a piece of shit that has brightness capped at 200 nits to reduce burn in returns and cant into real hdr. The panels themselves are cheap to produce but the yields and transport drive prices up.

>>108775895
>>108775838
Lower temps means longer life span of the card, right?
Need my 5070 to last for 5 years until the AI bubble pops.