>>108776555
just fucking lie about it, no one actually checks

>>108776623
Let me see more of this thot

>>108776623
Hiring managers and their systematic removal from society.

Hiring managers do not have the common decency to talk to you or me like a human being.

Should they all be forced to stop existing?

Should their details leaked online be compiled into a database?

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It's Friday, only weekend left till Monday!

If a hiring manager treats you or me a programmer like just another exploitable resource then should they be treated in a similar manner?
I believe yes. I believe that hiring managers should be systematically targeted by hackers until their entire ecosystem becomes infeasible.

I believe their bank accounts should be drained.
I believe their identities should be stolen.
I believe they shouldn't be allowed to access the online environment without being exposed to the worst possible experience imaginable.

It is not so easy being treated like less than a human being by these people. It is not so easy having these people waste our time. Why shouldn't we brick and deadlock all technology they use?

Giving tech to corporations was a mistake.

>>108776623
HOLY PITTA

if you are given a job where you are taught/shown the ropes by an overworked mentor in hope you'll be able to take their duties eventually for at least 2 years down the line because they're going to leave in 12 months or less, would you take the job?

the hours are 996, the pay is below minimum wage. and it's supposed to be a prestigious government job

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A bit of background and some stats from my job search:
>4.5 yoe (I rounded to 5)
>no degree
>previous work was 1 year at a local startup 55k/yr out of high school (they went bankrupt and laid me off), 3.5 years remote at a startup 60k/yr (they also laid me off, didn't go bankrupt tho)
>unemployed for 14 months total (6 months I got depressed, stopped searching, and neeted all day)

Stats:
>363 job applications total (that I tracked)
>121 rejection emails
>6 interviews
>8 OAs -> 2 led to interviews
>rest are ghosted / pending

Notable companies I interviewed with:
>Microsoft (rejected after first round)
>Meta (rejected after full loop)
>Amazon (failed the OA, hardest one by far)
>Google (passed their "behavioral quiz", recruiter kept telling me they would schedule an interview, never happened, then got rejected, TWICE btw)
>Walmart (passed the OA, got told I would have an interview scheduled, then got rejected)

About the job I got:
>Recruiter screening -> OA -> two rounds of technical interviews
>they put me on hold for 6 weeks after the last round, telling me they would follow up if they had a job for me

What actually helped:
>applying on company websites directly
>grinding leetcode (I solved 460 problems total during my search)
>having an open source project related to AI to show off on my resume even if its just a chatgpt wrapper

And the offer that I was told by email (still waiting on the docs):
>143k/yr base, up to 187k/yr with bonus
>in office 5 days a week (hybrid 3/2 available after a year)
>have to relocate to a top 5 COL city

My life finally starts now!!! I'll quit my shitty underemployment job and laugh at the boomers that told me I would never get anywhere without a degree. I'm tired of being the smartest person in the room yet being given meaningless "work" no one wants to touch.
I'll finally be able to pay off my debt, buy turbo super cool electronics, modify my car, move out, and have sex!!!!!

>>108776764
Absolutely, but I would work 007.

fucking AWS

>>108776811
Congrats powerbro
Wish i have the same drive and aptitude

>>108776811
>143k in a top 5 COL city
you sure this is a step up?

tech jobs arent real. they're fake. a historical footnote.

what can I do with a comp sci degree that isn't tech but doesn't feel like starting from square one?

>>108777052
waste management engineer

>>108776811
Congrats anon, the grit definitely paid off. How'd you explain the employment gap, which I assume was after your last job, in your resume/interviews? Also did you happen to have a bunch of AI related bullet points in your work experience or just the project?

>>108776811
you write like a indian

>>108777052
If you want an actual answer, try to get into manufacturing. a lot of these companies need someone that's complacent enough to do the most boring work ever for 80k a year but also competent enough to run their own projects with freedom. A CS degree will get you in the door, look for any jobs that mention software but require "engineering" degrees instead of CS.

>>108776623
LICKABLE

>>108776623
>Xitter filename
SAUCE

>>108776623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlGhVzQttqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlGhVzQttqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlGhVzQttqs

I don't really know anything
Someone asks me a question and then I just go find someone who knows the answer

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>>108777205
What's the context of this?
Altman just sperging out?

graphic designer here. assets are a hassle and a problem for me, especially navigating the mazes of ambiguous licenses. how do I work around this easily? are there any real C00 asset libraries? if I want to generate stuff, what do I go for good industry standard assets? I'm mostly looking for basic stuff like textures, smoke fx, halftones, film grain, and other assorted small assets. I'm thinking about scanning some stuff from IRL but also generating a lot. Not interested in subbing to sites or buying asset packs because even when you pay out a lot of them still don't give you complete freedom with the licenses.

>>108777223
>salesforce engineer
yeah there's a fucking reason nobody is applying for that shit

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>>108777123
>a indian
AN* indian

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Kek!

>>108776623
TINY ASIAN CNC BUNNY SEXOOOOOOOOOOO

>>108777965
why is the gov like that? seriously I work for the local munincipality and we still use wordpress

>>108778049
Regulations.

>>108778051
show me the law that demands we use tech from 20 years ago

My boss is obsessive over tracking everything. If anyone on my team finishes tasks early or late or just not at the exact amount of story points estimated he gets pissed. He always calls it a failure and if you want to pull something from the backlog he always is against it because that’s “affecting the sprint scope”. In my opinion this is just stupid because it just encourages us to stretch out tasks for 2 weeks even if we can finish early. Is this normal?

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>>108778053

>>108776623
imagine lubing her pussy and giving her just the tip while feasting on those sweet lil boobies. sexooooooo

>>108778053
You've got it the wrong way around. If you can't find the regulation that says you can change the software, then the software stays. Nobody's going to risk his little fiefdom just so Timmy can get the latest version of whatever.

>>108778086
benchod

TJD

>>108778056
All of existence is tactical.
A reliable team is easy to reason about for management and will always appear well knit to the outsiders.
Quit being retarded: your generic question has no meaning. Evaluate the tactics and the field and join your team.

>>108778080
>>108777965
>>108776757
>>108776671
Here:
>>108777185

>>108778098
Tsmt

>>108778101
prompt?

>>108778102
> >>108777965 (You)
Tf did u ping me for bro? Im the looksmaxxer. Gonna go shopping for ties this evening cause i got invited to meetings with the site director and some IT director. Middle management soon trust the plan

>>108778114
>site director
Bro doesn't WFH looool

what can a young, bright, innocent incel with hope in their heart and a glimmer in their eyes even do with 150k a year

>>108778123
WFH is boring. I love mingling. I love flirting with office stacies. I love when the lunch lady makes me my favourite sandwich and gives me free snacks. I love the sunlight and fresh air in the office’s mini park. I love being glazed all day long by everyone and having my ego fed.

>>108778182
How do I get 150k?

>>108778187
Yeah, you're definitely middle management material. This is an insult, btw.

>>108778224
Thanks. :)

>>108778187
There's nothing wrong with that as long as you don't force me into the office to be your artificial friend. Even if you do that I won't be your artificial friend because I'll secretly hate your guts for it and avoid you at all costs.

Is having cutthroat colleagues normal for SE? I have been here for 6 months after graduation, and it feels like everyone is ready to backstab each other to impress the higher-ups.

>>108778256
He is exactly the type of guy that will force you to be his artificial friend (only while you are useful) or if you reject try to paint you as the black sheep.

>>108777965
Government is scummier than startups/private companies. They want the best solution right now right here this instant but they dont have the money for it. And even after you worked on the thing they asked, it eventually get shafted thanks to red tape

>>108778303
>t. never worked for the gov

I get why companies don't accept overqualified candidates now.

>Interviewing
>all average nothing out of the norm
>get this guy with a ton of experience coming from a big company (smaller than ours)
>aces every question asked, has a lot of projects, repos with lots of stars
>we literally tell him at the end that he is the guy we want
>fast forward 1 week later after giving him the offer
>he drops it for another one, surely higher paying

>>108778384
Because HR are fucking adult toddlers who need to be put in coal mines and worked to death

>>108776623
Cute tech worker.

>>108778280
Yes, most SEs are low t girly men so act like it

>>108778313
Nah u are

>>108778280
Best time to pick up john robert powers personality class and martial art class

>>108778256
>>108778284
I’m not like that all. I’m just an autist looking for challenge. Computing in itself has become easy and gay. So I set myself to improve on things I always sucked at. At first it was physical activity, and now that I’m at peak physical level, I’ve started getting into fashion and socializing. I treat everything like a computing science, still.

I really wish I could’ve simply grown old ticking away at my keyboard in a barely lit room and die an ugly virgin at the ripe old age of 50 from sedentary complications, but God had other

Lunch lady gave me 2 empanadas and a yogurt for free just now :)

>>108776623
Any butthole pics?

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>exec walks in while you're on your phone scrolling xitter

>>108778774
Why not seduce her?

>exec walks in while i have my feet up and playing games on my steam deck
>”haha slow day today huh anon? hey can you figure something out for me?”
Idk just be good at your job that your laziness is an indication of everything running smoothly?

>steam deck at work
millennials are the worst
all of them are manchildren

>>108778566
unemployed moron

My steam deck has helped me hit some critical deadlines a couple times. Never not bringing that bad boy to work

>>108776623
tits too big

>>108778959
Kys pedo

https://youtu.be/p4CtkBFrPrs?si=0AquTldWmxnlaW6X

Why arent these kind of creators debunked already? They always have expensive setups, claim to start from zero, and get jobs really fast in just 3-6 months despite no experience, no degree, etc

>>108778971
What is the issue? If you are confident, you can absolutely get a job in anything.

>>108778924
at least he has a usecase for her that she appreciates.

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I remember when my mother asked me why I didn't become a teacher. Decent pay, three months of vacation and nice schedule. I told her that I did like the conditions but I didn't care at all about teaching and I didn't like kids.
This is pretty much how I feel about my current job right now.

>>108778994
What kind of job you have now?

>>108779066
PM, and I embezzled the shit out of my experience to get it, because I was confident and talked like I meant it.

>>108779029
so what are you gonna do?

>>108779075
Does nobody ever caught you lacking at work? Anyone ever hold you accountable? What was your job before PM?

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>>108779088

>>108779092
IT Business Analyst, that's the thing I'm not lacking, I work my ass off, the thing is show them you are Superman and then match that when they hire you, obviously if you get the job but then suck at it you will be found out.

>>108779103
Sup M****

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I can't express the overwhelming sense of relief I've had today. The universe itself has validated my existence. I ignored all of the advice I received from other people during my job hunt and it ended up working out. I had everyone in my family shitting on me telling me I was a retard (sometimes nice, sometimes not so nice) for trying to get a programming job without going to college. The literal most unemployable family member that has never made more than $20 an hour in his entire life was telling me that I was a retard. It was so unbearably lonely. They tormented me the entire time. But I was right.

>>108777115
>How'd you explain the employment gap, which I assume was after your last job, in your resume/interviews?
I was never asked about my employment gap in software related interviews. That being said I had a short note on my resume stating that I've been working on projects and studying while unemployed instead of leaving the time slot between my last job and now blank.
Some advice I saw online from a recruiter forum said that they hate "risk" and ambiguity; they don't care if you're unemployed (for the most part), they just want to know what you've been doing for the last year. And it's also not a deal breaker in interviews, they have probably assumed you're neeting and despite that found you worth interviewing. Just don't tell them you went on a mountain to do ayahuasca and you'll be fine.

Funnily enough In the 3 non tech related interviews I did I was asked about my employment gap twice and I made up a story about studying to go back to college.

>Also did you happen to have a bunch of AI related bullet points in your work experience or just the project?
Yes I "leveraged generative AI tools to significantly increase productive output" at my last job, also put that I had 2 yoe experience using claude / codex, and whenever they asked me about projects or behavioral questions in interviews I defaulted to rambling about my ai work.

>>108779180
>for trying to get a programming job without going to college
Nigga didnt you say you're already working at a startup straight out of high-school? Also then going for remote startup? >>108776811

Tech is full of cons holy fucking shit truly you're all deserve to die

>>108779180
Shut the fuck up you whiny zoomer

>>108779194
Working at startups with 10 employees isn't a real job to boomers. Everyone in my family works at massive hospitals or energy facilities or billion dollar boomer corporations with pensions. My dad kept telling me like once a month that I'm a failure that has never held a real job.

>>108779103
> IT Business Analyst, that's the thing I'm not lacking, I work my ass off, the thing is show them you are Superman and then match that when they hire you,
Are those meme certs like PMP a necessity in order to get better chances as a PM or BA? I actually dont care about being a codecel anymore and had a project management related internship that was quite manageable actually

Also regarding the superman meme, do you simply tell that you managed to successfully push through with xy meme initiatives and that it greatly helped make corposlop software better by x metrics?

>>108779232
I had no certs, still have no certs, didn't lie about that at all, also I'm a CS grad. About the meme, yep I essentially transformed every time I helped anyone, interacted with a client into or bug fixed into: assisted the team with the X initiative, interacted and something something with stakeholders, reduced the product defect backlog by resolving X issues prioritized by severity, user impact, and release risk, etc.

>>108776811
Congrats anon, but I'd rather have a $100kpy remote job while living in a flyover shithole. The key to accumulating wealth isn't a big salary, it's being a cheapass.

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What does this mean? Should I email back or what?

>>108779302
didn't even try award

>>108779306
??

>>108779211
How much are they making working in that massive hospital, energy facilities, billion dollar boomcorp? You're making 50k a year that shit alone shouldnt be underestimated about. If you're making 10k-30k then it's can be a subject to ridicule but i genuinely curious either you're making things up about your family or your family are straight up deluded. Have you ever told them that people with bachelors starts at 40-50k anyway?

>>108779306
fak you bitch mother

>>108779270
Suuuure the 100k remote job will fall into your lap anytime soon mhm mhm
>rather this
>rather that
Shut up nigga lol

>>108779310
I was making min wage, and no I'm not kidding.

>>108779315
It did thoughverbait.

>>108776623
cute cute cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>108779315
I've been working remote since covid.

>>108779338
no one asked

>>108779310
>How much are they making working in that massive hospital, energy facilities, billion dollar boomcorp?
well
>dad is a mechanical engineer making 200k+ a year
>stepmom is a doctor making 250k+
>most of the family members on my stepmoms side are dentists / nurses / healthcare workers making 80k+ or they're retirees on social security
>uncle is a nuclear powerplant manager (i think hes around 130k)
>aunt is a nurse (100k+)
>literally everyone else is retired and lives off government gibs

> Have you ever told them that people with bachelors starts at 40-50k anyway?
I mentioned this once to my dad and he told me those are all of the "woke bullshit gender studies degrees" and if i had studied cs or engineering i wouldve started off making 100k before leaving college.

>>108779387
wait what did you study?

>>108779397
>wait what did you study?
i didn't
I learned how to code online through youtube tutorials, reading documentation, open source projects, coding challenges, and working on projects.

>>108779418
liar

>>108779424
why would i lie about being a loser without a degree

is it ever going to get easy as pre-covid or during covid to get a job?
I got like three fucking interviews just doing a dozen applications and then fucking nothing for the next 600 is it just over for entry level niggas?
should I just lie or something?

>>108779438
because you aren't a loser

I applied to 300 jobs and got only one interview. How is any of this real? How are all these unemployed people going to put bread on the table? If AI is going to make millions of workers superfluous then it's time for some socialism and redistribution of goods and services.

>>108779465
it's easy to say that now that I have a job offer. 3 months ago I was on my 11th month of unemployment and working weekends bartending at weddings for $15 an hour.

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>coworker calls me twice on teams and texts me on my personal phone because I didn't reply a teams message from 12 minutes ago
Same guy that can take over an hour to reply btw

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>mindlessly press enter for the entire day
>repeat ad nauseam
>boss messages "ok Anon, what have you done this week?"
>mfw can't remember what I did because AIslop vibe coding has killed any enthusiasm I ever had

>>108779478
tragedy of the commons
if everyone was unemployed at once it would be the government's responsibility to fix the societal fissure
but since only young people (a small voting block with little political and economic leverage) are unemployed, nobody cares.

>>108779523
Face it. AI is the future, snailcat.

>>108779543
No it wouldn't. You are responsible for your own future—no one else. Government is incapable of fixing anything. If a person is unemployed then they do not possess economic value. 95% of humanity does not possess economic value and will perish. AI opens the way.

>>108779558
Nice economic theory. Just wait until you get raped and murdered by a downwardly mobile zoomer with "zero economic value".

Adulthood is soooo funny bro they all shove you with so much shit to do and maintain and pay you just enough to eat and you're not allowed to look glum or else you start giving off this negative aura and people around you start distrusting you and stop giving you task to do so eventually you'll quit on your own.

>>108779576
If it happens then it is my own fault for not hiring security. I am not worried—all of those downwardly mobile parasites will be slaughtered.

>>108779523
I'm just running claude on a sandbox with full permission and I don't even press enter anymore. I spend like 30 min a day creating plans then do nothing.

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>~100 candidates
>Vast majority with work history in Texas
>Vast majority imported from India
Fuck Texas. Fucking curry infested shit stain.

>>108779661
>Israeli slave state
>colonized by Indians
sasuga

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>>108776623
>do all my work with ai
How long until the gravy train stops and we all lose our job?

>>108779630
Personally I like to press enter because I still don't fully trust the LLMs to not be completely retarded. There is some unattended vibeslop at my work and it shows.

>>108779697
AI is barely more economical than humans right now.
And I expect we are still at the honeymoon phase. Just wait until the VC money ends, the enshitification begins and the AI monthly bills become more expensive than a salary.

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>>108779661
>"conservatives" when asked to conserve anything other than Israel

>looking for local govt jobs for gf
>notice local council (bong) is hiring a software developer
>I have 90% of the skills & exp they're asking for
>based around the corner from me
>payrise
Time to update the ol CV

Anyone works with ERPs here? How is the market for Admins/Developers/Consultants?

>>108779723
Be sure to get past their shitty AI "screening". The competition will mostly be indian. Being a girl grants bonus points.

>>108776623
That dude is hideous

Stopped playing video games 1-2 hours daily in exchange of scrolling for 8-10 hours daily award

>>108778102
imagine malding this much over respecting and admiring an attractive female

yeah we're gonna pretend like your twg threads have ever been high quality buddy

>>108779899
>Female
That's where you're wrong, Fuckface

Copilot said Scrum was a 'commercial priesthood' with prophets (Sutherland), commandments (manifesto), preachers (advocates), sacraments (certifications), rituals (dailies), and that sprint retrospectives were 'confessionals'.
Was she trying to appease the public, or is this already mainstream?

>>108779897
I started reading and working out on the clock, also groceries and chores around the house.
When I finish my shift at 17:00 I have so much free time I could even get a job where I actually do something.

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Please say you've been in a similar situation before. This is clown levels of ineptitude.

>>108779989
Given your thirst for cocks, why not start of abblowjob service? You could charge $5 a blow. Rake in some cash and satisfy your insatiable appetite for semen!

>>108780081
seems normal to me
t. corpo rat

>>108780089
At least I just put in my two weeks yesterday for a better job.

Though I'm going to a F500, so I could imagine similar acts of idiocy go on at some level.

>>108777439
>Vegeta reading the Koran
>>108779722
This. I like where this thread is going.

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>week long mandatory in office hackaton focused on ai
Please kill me

>>108778080
Pussies are self-lubing, if she's actually into you

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>>108776623
first day at a devops role next wednesday, so excited bros

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>350 applicants to 1 hire ratio
surely this is economically sustainable
i wonder what the effects of having 20 year olds spend their most productive and formative years creating accounts and filling out "im not mexican im not indian" on workday will be.

>>108779489
A loser wouldn't have been able to get where you got moron.

>>108778080
>>108776671
>>108776757
>>108777167
>>108777176
>>108777965
>>108778566
OP same fagging his yellow fever no one gives a shit about

>>108778051
>>108778049
Not regulations. If you didn't notice yet every politician's direct job is to try to spend as little budget money as possible, so they can pocket the rest. The reason why government apps and such are so dogshit is because the whole budget is stolen and the app is then written by a friend's son who's studying programming or whatever for free. These days it's also probably also AI, but without subscription for pro models because it's a money you can't pocket.

>meeting of design team to discuss what tests and coverage we are missing and how we can quickly close the gaps
>test team representative keeps interrupting to argue about why we shouldn't ever test anything if they will eventually write a test months from now
>repo is all shit up because she forces her team to make a million one line PRs to pump the numbers
Getting tired of this shit

>>108780442
>pass tax increase to "aid" in pay for roads
>every single extra dollar which goes to roads from this fund is then funneled away from the existing fund
>roads don't get a single new actual dollar, all tax money goes straight to some bullshit the politicians have their hands in
This happens every single time BTW, it's why nothing ever seems to get better even though finding raises. Because it doesn't actually raise at all

I got emotional during my interview and told the hiring manager I hate my CEO, am I fucked?

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>>108780548
You cannot get emotional on an interview man. I don't think you are fucked but don't show weakness.

>>108780548
Holy shit you're retarded. Enjoy you drive through job at McDonald's, dumbass.

>>108780499
>>test team representative
Is this QA? Or you have a dedicated dev team for tests? If so, get after them for being behind.
Also, TDD motherfuckers!

>>108780563
You are right.

>>108780569
Worst case I keep working under this vile CEO until next opportunity, you don't get it.

>>108780548
Maybe yes, maybe no. You might be considered "passionate", you might be considered a risk as an executive hater.
However, I've seen some truly unbalanced people get hired recently. Where I work we are in the slow process of firing a recent hire who turned out to be unstable AND an asshole.

>>108780596
nta but how was he hired? im always so confused by that, like i have to drag my ass through glass to get hired and then assholes/crazies get thru??

>>108780584
Dedicated test team. I'm in hardware engineering, so it's common for a separate team to generate the robust testing, and the design team just does basic sanity tests or unit level which usually aren't PR gates

>>108780585
I've yet to meet a CEO who isn't vile.

>>108780605
The previous CEO of my gigaclobocorp seemed nice. New one looks like backstbbing is his hobby

>>108780619
How do you manage?

>>108780599
He fronted well. The only red flag was that he had accepted a job and was a few weeks in when we interviewed him, and he said about the job he just started "I'm not sure this is the place for me." Now we understand that they were gonna drop him during his probationary period. Also, he had worked for another branch of the company several years prior, but the team he worked with was all gone (split off into a different company)
I spoke to him once about his behaviour, and he said some stuff using therapy language ("I'm carrying a lot of guilt, man") which makes me think he's in therapy, I'm wondering if his mental illness is getting worse or if he just ran out of meds or what.

>>108780599
Assholes don't trust nice timid people like you, because they think you must be hiding something or judging them and they don't want that. Same as people getting mad that someone doesn't drink at the bar, even if they say nothing and don't care if others drink

>>108780604
Well, then they have nothing to say about the dev team doing unit tests / whatever. Smile and nod, perhaps assure test team that the tests you want are not "real" tests, just smoke tests.

>>108780652
Neurotypical people always assume you are not saying what you really mean, because neurotypical people never say what they mean.

>>108776623
SF girls do not look like this. You would need to actually go to Asia to find one like this.

2 get shit done for the deadline on the project that I'm pretty much solo on I only showed up once per week in the office and crunched hard by myself.
I've now had 2 people bring up my rare presence. Seemingly neutrally, but I'm sure there's a hint of criticism/disappointment in that.

>>108780619
All the good CEOs I've had were retiring dads with kids in high school or college. I think we started selecting for sociopaths recently in the past 10 years or just old dudes starting companies tend to be really accomplished and chill instead of hungry and ambitious.

>>108780637
It's a gigaglobocorp of 160k, I have never talked to the guy

>>108780669
Or Southern California, San Gabriel valley in particular. Excellent Chinese food there, too. SGV was settled by wealthy Taiwanese and Mainland Chinese immigrants, nice folks for the most part.

>>108780669
I see some like that around Seattle occasionally

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>>108780684
They wanna see you suffer. Seriously. Management can't enjoy your suffering if they can't see it happen.
>>108780685
The day of the Engineer-CEO is long gone, it's all finance bros now.

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>>108780585
By definition CEOs are lunatic. So don't worry, just don't verbalize it to employers.

>>108780668
So fucking true, end of interview, tell the guy he had a lot of energy, and I would be happy if the rest of the company was like that, had a massive frown, and then ghosted me, interview was going great till then, mind you. Probably thought I was mocking him or something.

I had to work at our company's booth at a conference for 3 days in Vegas. The lights and constant music are an assault on your very existence. Never doing this again. I'll use PTO if I have to.

>>108780687
160k is a big salary

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anyone been at unite in texas?

I earn 100k in my job here in Kentucky, got an offer of 200k in Cali, worth it? Would need to move.

>>108780852
I thought male prostitution was illegal in KY?

>>108780548
lmao so this is my competition

Need to crack 200k if I'm going to jump ship. Feel like such a poor fag in Utah not in the 2's.

>>108781070
Benchod

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>mandatory in person "AI basics and acceptable use" training for all company staff
>including contractors
>even the cafeteria workers and janitors

>>108781181
janny status?
I can't tell if this is a win or lose.

>>108781181
You deserve that job, not because you are perfect for every part of it, but because the role is specifically unusual in a way that matches
you.

>>108781181
why not? everyone should be using AI, my mom is retired and uses it, my brother is a physio and uses it

>>108781181
>including contractors
>turns out contractors don't have access.
Great.

We're most likely going to get Gemini. How is it for webdev?

>>108781649
Get copilot instead

>>108781683
I don't have any influence over that decision and I know CoPilot sucks ass.

>>108781700
Copilot is just a wrapper for all the models. It includes Gemini, so you're saying Gemini sucks ass, dumb faggot

>>108781713
I thought you meant GitHub CoPilot.

>>108781721
Github copilot literally let's you specify for each query which model to use

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>>108780548
Shit like this is how I was able to get hired

>>108779489
>for $15 an hour.
In THIS economy? That's fucking incredible

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>Close lappytop
>Drag ass 2 feet to other computer chair
>get to look at anime girls
I have a good life. Not a great life, or a life that would make my ancestors proud, but a good life basically comprised of ease and pleasure

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>>108782157
in a moment of weakness years ago i asked my dad if he was proud of me and he said yes

and that was when two certs and 60wpm typing made you 500k/yr at local IT shops somehow and i was fucking broke by comparison to my peers

>>108782173
he lied

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>>108779180
Yeah, generally you can get better advice by reading industry trends online and just seeing how the wind is blowing. Taking family for career advice is fucking stupid. They don't know you, they don't listen to YouTube or the news or trade publications or anything, they just parrot off the same stupid shit that worked for them in the 80's and 90's. I still remember my mother refusing to pay my rent in 2015 if I didn't mail my resume out to prospective companies. She paid for it all, but wanted me to type letters and do all the bullshit. It got me fucking bupkis, as my friend's grandma would have said. Jack shit. It's just expensive garbage. Anyway, the point is you probably know what's right.

>>108781208
Those who refuse to use AI will be luddite retards who are left behind. Who the fuck cares? I for one embrace AI. It's quadrupled my output and made me a better creative writer, and I can use it at work to parse gigabytes of logs in minutes, something that used to take hours.

>>108781649
>>108781683
Copilot is just Chat-GPT under a shell, and frankly, I find Copilot to be complete Dogshit compared to a paid Gemini Pro subscription for most things. That being said, I think that Copilot can be slightly better for diagnosing MSFT bullshit. I would not use copilot for creative tasks though.

>>108779310
The average tech worker makes 38,149$/week. 50k/year is literally below the poverty line in most US states, btw.

>>108782209
>Those who refuse to use AI will be luddite retards who are left behind.
This fully this. We need more datacenters. AGI in two more weeks if only the fucking libtards didn't keep blocking us. IT monkeys will be fully and foreverially BTFO but because of DEI hiring we can't replace them all with AI.... Yet.

>>108780845
No.

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>>108780548
Yeah, you absolutely fucked that interview. I don't want to hire somebody who is going to badmouth their leadership. And you know what, it's not even about the fact that you bitched, it's two things:

1: You were a negative cunt with a bad attitude
2: You lost control of your emotions. What does that mean when we encounter a stressful situation at work? I don't need somebody who is going to get emotional and need a psych session. I want somebody who can swallow their emotions and bury them and keep working.

1/2

>>108778384
this

we need more h1bs who wont just leave

Why do furfags get jobs but us trad chads can't even get hired at Gamestop?

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>>108780548
>>108782288

2/2

Here's some advice: You need to have a lie or marketing spin ready for each of your jobs and why you are leaving that would be appropriate to business professionals. For example, I worked at a university where we had this Indian Redeemer fuckwit take over as director. I hated him. He made my work life a living hell, and he was a psychopath, and an incompetent racist to boot. Nothing is worse than watching an entire networking team leave and then get replaced by a bunch of his buddies who could speak whatever retarded language he spoke natively. You think my interviewer cares about that? You think they want to hear me bitch? No. We've all had a bad boss, we've all dealt with difficult people. Bitching is running away and not solving the issue. It shows no professional integrity or ability to overcome a situation. And I get it, you can't usurp your boss or challenge him to a duel or clock him upside the back of the head with a 2x4 whatever the fuck. You're in that interview to get away from your boss, most likely.

So don't even talk about it. When I went into my interview, I got asked why I was leaving. You know I said? I said "I am looking for another job because I no longer feel challenged at my current work environment, and wish to grow and develop professionally"

Which is a very easy lie because it is TECHNICALLY TRUE. I wasn't growing in my position, and I wasn't being challenged.

But if they ask directly about your relations to your boss? You say "I strive to maintain a professional working relationship with my superiors" or some such. Because they are asking YOU, not your boss. Even if your boss is a fucking cunt, you control the narrative to the interviewer, and you can play dumb and completely weave a lie to your favor, how in the fuck are they going to verify that? Oh, they could call your boss and ask? Sure, but then it's he said she said, and it boils down to you just having a completely different opinion of the scene.

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>>108782318
>>108782288

>>108782322
Don't work then and go starve

>>108782318
>>108782288
What's your greatest weakness?

>>108782339
Sometimes I work so hard that I forget to leave work and stay late.

>>108782234
We're not getting AGI by scaling LLMs

Career advice from family was as follows
>Dad: Any degree will instantly qualify you for millions of office jobs, just enjoy yourself
>Mom: You should take a gap year and then study art and then travel Europe and just assume things will work out living the most idiotically disorganized hedonistic life possible. Presumably this should all be done with debt
GenX will grow old completely delusional about how things are, but these delusions will center around degreeholders instead of literally all people

>>108776623
happy friday wagies, thanks for putting my fries in the bag all week!

>>108782429
And it will happen to you too

>>108782429
Counterpoint your mom wanted you to find a wife in France during a drunk escape into a random village.

Also don't think your not delusional now. Whenever you have kids reach the age to where they should be getting ready for college they will already have their bachelors degree in high school and college will be 6 years of MS/PhD work. Anyone who doesn't will be left behind.

What salary did you really start feeling comfy at? I'm only at 100k now and it's not bad but it's nothing like it used to be. I'm thinking 150k will be pretty nice.

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>>108782429
i've met more viable business contacts being a massive animal-fucking degenerate than i ever have in anything "normal" or pretending to be "normal"

>>108782481
1 Mil. Bare minimum to be truely Free.

holy shit i'm so tired

>>108782656
and gay as fuck... don't forget that.

>>108782656
take a nap little guy

>>108776691
Not again...

>>108782656
>/twg/ anons actually work
kek

vaping until I feel sick

>>108782679
i'm actually retired

>>108782728
want to hang out next week? I'll "work" from the university in my city

My irl social skills have atrophied to a very sad degree. Maybe you're too good for me idk

>>108782429
that's normal, the world changes fast enough that the things that worked for parents won't work for their children

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>>108782481
Given the current state of the economy 200K is the new goal for professionals, while 100K is getting more attainable by lower and lower tiers of white-collar workers simply due to inflation raping your purchasing power, which affects salary and market rates. To put it another way, if you were making 100K in 2005, you were doing much better than somebody making 100K in 2025/2026. Your dollar bought more than it does today.

I am making about 110K USD/year and that's not bad for myself, but I can live thrifty, I shop at thrift stores and bargain hunt for fun and am not a complete fucking retard so I can actually save money. But if you're like the average joe who goes to Kohl's and spends 89 fucking dollars on a pair of shitty pants that last six months, yeah your dollar isn't going as far.

150K is where I could see true comfort for the average person, so I would agree there.

>>108782540
1 Mil wouldn't make you free from wage slavery, even a 1M USD windfall just gives you the ability to stuff your money into a stock fund and pull 4-8 percent a year to supplement your income, which definitely gives breathing room if you say, end up getting laid off, or on disability, or you get a toxic workplace and you need a year to rebalance your head, because 40K-60K year extra income is better than no income when you don't have a job, it keeps the lights on and the bills paid at least. Even with a 1M windfall you would want to be working a good job and dump-charging money into the account to compund off the interest.

>>108782779
Since I retired earlier this year, I haven't spoken to another person once, other than like some employees at the pharmacy. So, my social skills are likely even worse than yours. Even when I was working, I was the only person on my team in my office location, so I would go weeks without a single in-person conversation.

tgif am i right fellas

>>108782849
lack of irl human interaction degrades mental faculties
go meet people or get early dementia

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>>108782849
ffs... I'll be thinking of you at least once a week for many months... anything you post will be relayed into my memory, so say whatever you wish to be known

>>108782892
meh I'll take my chances. I exercise my brain by posting here
>>108782908
Uh, ok? Good luck

>>108782865
unironically

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Just found out the co-worker I've been working with for the past 5 months is a furry foot fetishist and his Twitter is full of that shite.

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>>108782961
>Uh, ok?
not the comfy reply I was hoping for, but that's ok, I'll post a comfy photo

>>108782990
Freaks, bro. Freaks.

>>108783014
I knew this nigga was weird but I didn't think he would be THAT fucking weird, like fuck man.
Idk how to talk to this nigga anymore knowing that.

A single (1) boomer has a leash on every team that works for the company's biggest client. In five months, he flipped flopped from promising new projects to laying off a third of the workers. His latest bright idea? We should drop every frontend (as in, the actual interfaces clients have been using for 10+ years) and replace them with AI chatbots. Luckily for me, I stopped giving a shit a long time ago, it's still funny that these situations can exist.

It turns out the entire software department is into disk golf. I've never played it before yesterday. I bought three (disks?) on the way home today. I've been practicing throwing it in my apartment.

>>108782810
1 Mil PER YEAR, anon. Not 1 Mil once. That is poorfag shit.

>>108783034
It's as dumb of a sport as regular golf is.

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I'm resting today. I'm going to sleep more, too. No hurry.

Do you have one of those coworkers who is very openly into anime? what do you think of him/it?

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>client tell me to give a deadline estimation
>do it
>he said it should take 10 times as long as my estimate and gave me an ai generated breakdown where shit like changing static div text takes half to a whole workday
man I'm not built for this

>>108782656
>>108782728
>i'm actually retired
so not only you are tired, you are re-tired?
I'll find the exit

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>>108783223
I'd just take it. He wants to give you 10x as long, he can pay 10x as much. Come on bro. You don't know how to grift stupid people?

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Now that I'm employed and successful I have to switch up on all my day 1s, even myself.
You were nice to me when I was an unemployed bum? Fuck you, you were holding me back.
Poor? complaining about the job market? I don't know, have you tried getting a job? It's not that hard.
Indians? A bioweapon? Sounds like you just can't compete.
You make 100k a year? lmao literal poverty line.

>>108783360
Stfu loser

I was discussing with Claude that I want to get into program management as my manager role after 10 years working as a dev and his response was basically
>claude: "OH MY FAUCI! Don't do that. You need a PMP and to be a Jr. project manager for 8 years first before going into program management"
Fucking bullshit
Do I really need that much experience to do what those tiktok women pretend they do?

I'm probably going to just hyperfocus on ROS2 I have some opportunities to do some stuff work wise and I can grind out the rest on my own time. Everything else seems like a lost cause or a rat race. I am powered by adderall now so that even the odds.

>>108783360
is this yet another character made up to keep this thread alive?

>>108783843
why are millennials allergic to eccentricity
>wow you have an opinion? Are you joking? This must be a larp.

>>108783852
>eccentricity
you watch too much TV and you think you are original and unique lmao

>millennials allergic to eccentricity
the fucking IRONY

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>>108783855
>the fucking IRONY
It is completely factual and unironic. Millennials have an abhorrently boring monoculture of "quirk chungusness" where they each think they're unique and special by doing obnoxious and retarded shit while being a "heckin good wholesome person".
You're not unique because you bring your steam deck to work.
Actual eccentricity is authentically holding a nonconformist personality or beliefs, regardless (and especially in the face of) of societal backlash.

>>108783893
>millenials are reddit
>says the brainwashed product mix of everything created by national and foreign millenials and corporate interests
ok

>>108783930
>zoomers are le brainwashed!
>how?
>erm.... they play video games and dont have sex!!!
really profound thoughts here

>>108783943
>muh straw man
>b-but I AM original!!1!
xd

>>108783962
>>muh straw man
thats exactly what you were saying in >>108783930 but using vague language to try and obfuscate

>>108783972
>completely misses the point
says the retard who "authentically holding a nonconformist personality or beliefs, regardless (and especially in the face of) of societal backlash"
also, no wonder half of your generation are trannies... you are very good goys, completely and absolutely lost in life, lacking even the most basic logic.

>>108776764
absofuckinglutly. shit working conditions and little pay is better than shit overall conditions and no pay.

I am a junior computer science student. And I finished my semester last week. I only applied to a couple of internships maybe like 10 or so. I don't feel like I'm qualified for any of the positions that usual students go for. Idk what do to do since I do want a successful future in computer science in any field. Should I keep applying to interns? should I do leetcode or make projects? I'm looking at neetcode and leetcode and I can't like fathom how to start to work on these type of problems. And for projects they seem very daunting and not like neetcode or leetcode or any of the questions I've done in class.

>>108784230
>I'm looking at neetcode and leetcode and I can't like fathom how to start to work on these type of problems
have you literally ever coded anything in ur life, nigga?
like atp u might as well sell your asshole on fansly if u cant solve lc easies

>>108784261
How about helping me out asshole?

>>108784281
Probably get some lube and start small

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>>108784230
> I'm looking at neetcode and leetcode and I can't like fathom how to start to work on these type of problems.
I'll let you onto a secret: these problems are like mathematics, they follow very specific solutions. Most people learn how to solve some of these problems at the university, and then build upon that, and pretend they "figure out these problems".

So try doing few easy problems with naive solutions, then Google proper solutions and memorize these by doing other similar problems. Then move knto more advanced.

This is not an iq test. This is about filtering those who didn't get the tip.

Yeah but how would you estimate the weight of the elephant in the picture

>>108784230
>>108784281
SAAAARRRRRR YOU GAVE US PASSAGE SAAAAAARRRRRR

>>108776811
good for you anon, more about being able to move to the city to have sex/find a gf desu.

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I made a counteroffer to the salary I got offered. The hiring manager said he would have a quick chat with his boss and come back, and came back with this. He said I don’t know how to say this but this is what my boss thinks of your offer.

>>108783930
you grew up watching television

>>108784602
And you grew up watching tiktok.

>>108780427
I have bad new ugly white foid. Most white men have insatiable colonizer genes.

>>108784281
Here you go. Stop trying to get a job in a field your brain isnt wired for
https://careers.mcdonalds.com/

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I have to go the office three days next week just to attend a hackaton endorsed by the schizophrenic midwit motherfucker that is our ceo.

>>108784772
Fuck you benchod.

>>108779302
Can't you read, Mr. Gonzales?

>>108784795
My company is in cali and I work from Kansas, life is good.

>>108776623
this is a very attractive cute asian female

>>108784971
>female

EUfag here (German to be specific). I am wondering if this applies to American companies as well or if it's just us being retarded as usual.

No one actually decides anything, it's basically the antithesis of micromanagement. I have like 5 layers of management above me. But no one ever says "we are now going to build X". I don't even mean you have to write this code or use that language, I just mean like a general product description.

It's all experiments coming from lower layers and us having to convince management to go along with it. But then you would think management at least sells it or promotes it or aligns it or whatever? But no, we have to sell it too and somehow acquire budget for it.

And then it's not aligned between departments either and since everyone converges to the lowest common denominator, you have 5 different experiments in 5 different departments/kingdoms that are basically 97% similar, the company is trying to sell 5 times the same shit, etc.

The question that outlines this best is always when some exec that's the boss of my boss or something like that comes around and asks "what are you working on?" MOTHERFUCKER it's YOUR department you should KNOW. What do YOU do all day???

Anyway thanks for coming to my TED talk

>>108776623
sex sex sex sex sex

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On Friday, I got a light remark/warning(?) from my HR manager for having pic related as my desktop wallpaper. I told him the guy is a running joke between me and other colleagues, but he said that it's better not have anything "political" as a wallpaper.

What do you make of this? I've seen colleagues with worse wallpapers than this and they never got any remarks. Like, if they really wanted to stop people from having funny images on their workstations, why not enforce something via Group policy??

>>108785686
Kek

But you’re autistic. Grow up

>>108785686
>What do you make of this?
They're trying cover their asses by making the workplace as blandly inoffensive as possible, it's what HR does. I'd change the wallpaper just to stay off their radar, it's not a hill worth dying on.

i will post this again because i didn't get any replies last time
>company is rebuilding our frontend using "micro frontend"
thoughts? does anyone have any experience with stuff like module federation?

>>108784602
I actually didn't. I was too poor to have a TV when I was a kid.
meanwhile, you grew up getting your ideas of what society is from bots and trolls on 4chan

>>108776623
very inviting armpit

taking a break from wrenching to shitpost on /g/. i think i and most tech workers would be way happier if we just worked in a bike shop

inb4
>why break if its so le good
im missing a fuel line and got slightly annoyed

>>108786303
>bike shop
too repetitive to appeal to my autistic ADHD ass
I used to work in a factory painting metal parts before I went to university and that shit is BORING as fuck
I'd urinonically rather sit in a meeting room with 10 idiot managers than do this shit again
believe me it's fun for 3 days and then it's just the same shit over and over and over again

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why is it all indians on my linkedin getting this

>>108786371
i'm an azureGOD

why does OP keep samefagging about his asian ladyboy?

>>108786426
UTWG is dead he lived there.

>t0 emergency because google decides to fucking remove auth tokens for absolutely no reason
small indie company saar pls understand