>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/memory-prices-climb-500-percent-in-12-months-up-to-10x-the-lowest-ever-tracked-prices-128gb-of-ddr5-now-usd3-399

>playing vidya
>notice my cpu is getting a little toasty - running at 70c, sometimes a little more
>find this odd as its a 5800x3d with a 280mm AIO bolted to it
>think not much more on it as the day progresses but the fans do keep ramping
>decide to do some maintenance, the paste is likely dry or something as i've not touched it in years
>repaste, bolt back together
>boot into windows, everything is sloooooooooow
>check HWINFO64 given the previous issues
>cpu is running at 700mhz and 90c, likely seconds away from thermal shutdown
>fuckfuckfuck, clearly I fucked the mounting up after pasting
>take block off, paste looks fine enough
>maybe when I disassembled everything air got trapped in the block, so power down, give everything a shake and power to bios while holding the rad and massaging the tubes
>sounds like the pump is running on the dry side but there is clearly fluid sloshing around
>after an hour of messing about still can't keep cpu cool as it ramps to tjmax in seconds just sitting in bios
>cut my losses and overnight order a peerless assassin
>just werks™
The lesson here? No real lesson that we shouldn't already know. The AIO was fairly old (probably best part of a decade) and likely could be cleaned if I took the cold plate off and had a poke about but given how cheap the peerless assassin is just getting one and having a cooler that is plenty for the chip for minimal cost is good enough.

I am just glad I managed to catch the initial high temps before it escalated as in hindsight it is clear the pump was on its way out (either by blockage or just mechanical failure).

hmmmmm. I can't help but notice the lack of a blackwell 6000 and 9950x3d2 in the OP.

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>>109597175
>The AIO was fairly old (probably best part of a decade)
>in hindsight it is clear the pump was on its way out (either by blockage or just mechanical failure).
AIO's peak performance probably lasts around the first three years, you'll have to replace it past year 5 or 6 if it's cooling a high performance processor.

>>109597218
Well a 5800x3d is hardly straining any AIO as the thermal bottleneck is the v cache wrapping the cores like a cosy blanket.

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c-can someone who has some experience with mini led monitors or just have the knowledge in general give me their opinion on mini led monitors? I am thinking about upgrading my old 240hz TN monitor to that TCL 1080p 25 inch 300hz mini led at walmart for 150 dollars. I mainly play visual novels and some rpg games, so I was thinking that the better contrast i've been reading about would be nice. I would get an oled, but i have read the text clarity suffers and then I'd have to get a bigger monitor and a higher resolution which would in turn be harder on my 5060ti. I like smaller monitors and i also keep it on all the time, so burn in would be an issue too

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-615-driver-to-arrive-with-resonance-and-hell-let-loose-optimizations

NVIDIA WON

>>109597406
For that use case a miniLED would be reasonable, especially if you are into VNs so motion clarity (which I doubt is amazing on a 150 shekel screen) won't be a major factor.

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Finally completed my new system!

>>109597538
damn there must be a lot of porn on that machine!

>>109597538
>Define....R7 most likely
>fan mount just to keep the HBA cool
Noice. Are those sas drives or sata ones?

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whats up with the bottom left? Why is there a gap? It's literally brand new, is it a weird connector or something? My regular 12pin adapter doesn't fit / gives me only 15-46 watt while it could go to 300w :(

>>109597607
>R7 most likely
Hah, I wish. It's an R4. I've had it for over 12 years and it's been gathering dust for the past four-or-so years since I switched to a new machine.

I'll probably upgrade to something like a Define 7 XL in the future if I run out of drive bays.

>Are those sas drives or sata ones?
Just regular SATA drives.

>>109597633
>Just regular SATA drives.
What HBA are you using? I'm likely to be in a similar situation soon (my current mobo has 8 sata slots but lmao getting that on any chipset for mere mortals these days) and i'm a little lost in knowing exactly what I need.

>>109597406
OLED for people who spend a lot of their time in the dark. Generally 4k fixes the text clarity issue, but obviously your GPU would struggle with any AAA games. But last christmas 1440p previous-gen QD-OLED's were like $350 dollars, even if it's shit, that's is an OK price for you to test the reality of burn in in case you consider buying a $1000 OLED next. Also windows has MacType which can help with text clarity maybe (but I bet there could be issues with it not working since it's a hack).
Mini led if you are willing to workaround the compromises (AKA turning it off if the zones become more annoying than the better darks).
Personally the monitor you picked is some hot garbage I haven't heard of with 180 zones, the Q27G40XMN VA and the Xiaomi G Pro 27i have 1000 zones.
Personally I want a gsync pulsar monitor because I still play games at 30fps because of emulators, and I want to see if it's worth it (I would probably just return it if I couldn't feel a difference). But an OLED is just so much cheaper. And beyond $600 I would rather just get a cheap meta quest VR headset because I want to pirate 3D movies, and then it will probably collect dust.

>>109597665
>What HBA are you using?
DELL Perc h310. I got it for relatively cheap (~40€) locally with cables, so I went for that. Didn't realise at the time that it doesn't have a temperature sensor inside it, so I can't adjust the fans to follow its temperature. I just gave them a static baseline and made them ramp up more if the drives start getting hot, since presumably the HBA is gonna also require a bit more cooling when there's high activity.

There are definitely better HBAs you can buy, in terms of connectivity, efficiency and monitoring. But it's perfectly fine for my needs at the moment, and I imagine I can offload it for about what I paid for it when I need a 16-lane one.

I also couldn't get it to work out of the box with my test system before I had this new server built, presumably due to an SMBus conflict. Would've been resolvable by taping up PCIe pins, but I didn't have Kapton tape at hand. Thankfully with the new motherboard there wasn't an issue, so I didn't have to start doing arts and crafts.

>>109597720
*OH but if you are getting a oled, make sure that the anti-burn in pixel refresher warning isn't super annoying, I heard that some monitors won't let you turn it off.

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intel wonned

>>109597615
Corsair PSU?

>>109597791
CPU-Z is confus

>>109597811
>Corsair PSU?
no its the r9700 but im not sure if that little gap is supposed to be there, its brand new

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>>109597507
Thanks so much for the response bwo, I just ordered it and feel really happy. It should be a great upgrade over this almost decade old tn monitor
>>109597720
Thanks for the response as well bwo. I looked up some youtube stuff for it as well, and it does seem like a very nice upgrade over my super old tn monitor, despite it being a lower quality mini led with it's zones like you said. And it seems like a mini led or oled at 25 inches is super rare, so this will have to do. I just hope it's nice as i'm excited to get an upgrade bwo! I hope you can find the perfect pulsar monitor eventually too

>>109597863
on a regular connector the gap shouldnt be there. The 12VHPWR connector is standardizes in theory

damn CPU is 72C, GPU is 63C on max usage, this PC is gonna explode...

>>109597791
Intel will probably overtake AMD in performance pretty soon.
AMD has been resting on its laurels too much and hasn't really done much lately.

The companies trading places is nothing new, and being behind for a bit should inspire some good developments from AMD.

>>109598030
I literally idle at 59C while overclocked.

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>>109598116
sweet jesus!

>>109598126
This is apparently normal for this CPU. And I have a 420mm Noctua radiator, too.

>>109597538
Which HBA card is that? I have 0 knowledge about them and they range from $50 to like $300.
I want either an i8 or an e8 card, and since I'm not using any SSDs I don't need anything that fast.

what is the cheapest way to get 24G VRAM?

>>109598138
next AMD says: "bro 95C is actually the target temp"

>>109598152
Well it will idle at 45C when not using the overclocking. I'm about to turn it off simply because it makes my room too fucking hot.

My AIO is dying. What's a good air coller that can cool down a i7 14700K? I don't care about looks or sound since it's in a different room than me. And nothing too big, something that can fit in a 4U rack case.

>>109598157
Still too much, I remember old Intels ran at around 28-30C idle. This 45-50C idle bugs my mind.

>>109598157
>look at my sensor panel
>CPU temp 38 °C
>calibrated temp 39°C
>package temp 50°C
seriously which one is important?

>>109598177
Well, it is a 9950X3D2 so it's the top of the top of the line.

This is just how it is now. We're barely able to go any smaller and no one's made any architectural innovations since the invention of CUDA cores, so everything is just pushing the heat as far as they can. My motherboard is basically covered in heatsinks.

>>109597928
Can I just ignore the gap if I buy a cable I can stick it into?

>>109598209
I'd assume a standard 12v2x6 should fit? If it's a potential damage I'd contact the manufacturer and see what they say or check the manual. Maybe I'm mistaken and this is a special connector after all.

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Radeon bros dont look

>>109598234
>bros dont look
or do look and know that you saved enough shekels to buy a game and enjoy it

>>109598234
>nvidia lost performance
>amd gained performance
not the win you think it is buddy

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>>109598177
9950X3D here - idles around 55°C (Tctl/Tdie) using Arctic Freezer Pro III

pic entirely related

>>109598234
9070XT will be bumped down to midrange by the end of the generation.

has anyone had experience with chinese ddr5 brand cusa? I bought it on aliexpress how raped am i?

>>109598143
DELL Perc h310. Posted some details earlier: >>109597730

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>>109598234
I see they are using the RTX build of Unreal Engine.
https://developer.nvidia.com/game-engines/unreal-engine/rtx-branch
It shits on AMD on purpose.

>>109598177
AMD CPUs are mostly hamstrung by shitty IHS.
Debauher sells delidded ones and they idle around 30-40 and run at 60-70 under load.

Using a 420mm AIO, my 9800X3D idles around 50 and peaks in the low 80s.

>>109598332
Are there other engines for AAA games other than unreal at this point?

>>109598362
some inhouse engines like the one Bethesda uses or Capcoms RE Engine. No idea if Konami ever did something with the Fox Engine other than MGS5 and Survivor.

>>109598276
GREEN BAR LONGER
NO EXCEPTIONS

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>>109598230
apparently it IS a 12v2x6 but I was dumb and bought this thing instead which does NOT fit at all even though it has 12 pins (it misses the upper 4), shouldn't it theoretically have fit or is it a completely different shape when it comes to those 12 pins?

>>109598431
From the four extra pins only two are used right now and they are called sensing pins. They limit the power draw of the GPU to 150, 300, 450 or 600w depending on their state.

>>109598362
goty list:
2014 - dragon age inquisition \ frostbite engine
2015 - witcher 3 \ red engine
2016 - overwatch \ blizzard engine
2017 - zelda breath of the wild \ nintendo engine
2018 - god of war \ santa monica engine
2019 - sekiro \ dark souls 3 engine
2020 - last of us part 2 \ naughty dog engine
2021 - it takes two \ unreal engine 4
2022 - elden ring \ dark souls 3 engine again
2023 - baldurs gate 3 \ larians engine
2024 - astro bot \ studio japan engine
2025 - expedition 33 \ unreal engine 5

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>>109598431
you said it didnt fit. does that mean could you plug it in but there was no power? 12v2x6 standard delivers 0w if both sensing pins are open as safety mechanism. Pic rel is from wiki so take it with a grain of salt

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>pull fan on single tower coolers

>>109598533
I managed to half fit into it but it got loose and out easily, it was stuck at 15watt managed to push it to 46 watt before it started crashing and I took it out to see whats wrong only to realize I had the wrong type of 12pin plugged in all along

boy oh boy I hope I didn't permanently damage it or something

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>>109598535
it just werks mang, especially if you have front case fans

>>109597218
Meanwhile the fan that came with the hyper 212 evo I originally put on my i5 4690k rig is still trucking along. lmao...

>>109597899
I probably should have checked, but it seems like the Q27G40XMN isn't in stock.
I think there is a KTC 27 Inch M27T6 which has the same number of zone and should be fine, but it's also VA I think, and I don't know if it has other issues which is possible.
I wouldn't spend more than $300 on a mini-led.
The real issue is that the more dark your room is + dark content on screen, the more noticeable the zones are. If you want inky blacks, oled is the only option.

>>109597061
i'm scared my motherboard or cpu is dying
at times my pc freezes for a second, fans go haywire and my wired mouse and one of my external hdds stop working.
the weird thing is my other external hdds dont get this error, and my wireless mouse works fine as well
i switched the usb ports around a little but the same issue keeps happening to the same devices no matter what port i plug them into

>>109599030
use linux

>>109599030
>my wireless mouse works fine as well
if it has 8k polling rate reduce it down to 1k and check if it still happens

>>109599030
>at times my pc freezes for a second, fans go haywire and my wired mouse and one of my external hdds stop working.
this is normal on AM4

>>109599048
why would that fix it?
>>109599050
its been fine for the last three years

>>109599065
i'm running a intel 12700k though

>>109597175
The power of AMD. I had the same thing happen to TWO fucking 3800xes in a row, except the heat issue continued whether it had an AIO or a solid, known-good air cooler attached.

>>109598332
>it's le heckin conspiracy!!!!
Yet I bet it's somehow just normal business when an engine is optimized for AMD instead.

>>109599087
it's not normal on intel
any WHEA errors?
event viewer > applications and services logs > microsoft > windows > kernel-whea > errors

>>109599089
>The power of AMD
Hardly, just an old AIO failing and has nothing to do with the cpu it is bolted to.

>CPUPro posts on /g/

>>109598839
It's pretty hard to kill an air cooler, and when the only thing that can die actually dies, it's pretty obvious.

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>>109599077
Windows drivers bad and cause huge dpc latency spikes to the point your inputs or audio freezes

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> Does the ASRock B550 PG Riptide supports ECC ?

I’m trying to find enough evidence of ECC working but according to ASRock it does support it and according to third parties documentation it does not.

> User manual says it supports ECC
https://download.asrock.com/Manual/B550%20PG%20Riptide.pdf

> ASRock website says it supports ECC
https://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.us.asp?Models=B550%20PG%20Riptide,X570S%20PG%20Riptide

> TechPowerUp doesn’t mention it
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-b550-pg-riptide/

> pcpartpicker says it does not support ECC
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hn8bt6/asrock-b550-pg-riptide-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-pg-riptide

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> be me playing a well known Gatcha
> game freeze, restart PC
> day after the same
> day after that same again, try to not have anything else in the background, just in case.
> mmmh... but I've cleaned and blown everything before the summer heat
> another freeze. Try something I've had in my mind
> everything now works fine again

So i just removed the RAM sticks, cleaned the contacts with iso alcohol, some air in the sockets and swapped the install order.
Even machines need the physiotherapist now huh

>>109599165
how2tune
>just disable all the security features lmao +20% fps ez modo

>>109598206
Cinebench scores NOW!

>>109599109
no errors there
Kernal PnP gives this
''device has been suprise removed as its is reported missing from the bus''

Does anyone have experience of using a NVMe to USB adapter?
I've never used one before, does the OS just treat it like a thumb drive?

>>109599241
It should treat it as an external drive.

>>109599178
what actually fixed it was the bios resyncing the hardware clock when it has to do ram training again

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I seriously might buy the sonic mobo

>>109599509
That's cool as fuck.

>>109599178
be careful of being too sure of that assumption. it is really easy for something like that to "work" for a while and all of suddenly the problem comes back.
t. fightered "ram instability" for weeks when it turned out to be PBO.

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Which fan set up should I do? Right now I have the Meshify 3 case, and a 280mm AIO.

Should I switch to a 360 AIO and mount it at the front of the case?
My only issue is that the Meshify three has one of those scroops at the front of the case to direct air flow to the GPU. And if I turn the front into an AIO exhaust then that is useless.

Is it worth changing my set up?

>>109599175
Buy the board from Amazon or somewhere else with no restocking fees.
Test the ECC and return the board if the feature isn't fully supported..

>>109599203
Update the board's chipset & management engine drivers.
Uninstall the old drivers first (after you've downloaded the new ones).

>>109599564
Go for the 280mm setup.

>>109599608
But aren't 360 AIOs quieter because you can run them at lower RMPs?

>>109599564
Not that I know for sure but generally you should have front intake fans with the radiator blowing out the top. Unless you're specifically trying to focus on cooling the CPU, then you do the other way, but if you're trying to balance CPU and GPU temps, it should be front intakes and the radiator mounted up top.

>>109599653
Oh and if you don't have bottom intake fans of some kind, either on the actual bottom of the case or the PSU shroud, I would definitely go for setup 1. I'd only do setup two if I had bottom intake fans.

>>109599627
For surface area difference between 280 and 360 is pretty small so unless you are truly heat soaking the rad it doesn't matter., you're not going to hear a difference in fan noise (assuming 120 vs 140mm is basically the same fan but bigger/smaller).

The 280 setup has the advantage of proper intake airflow so not only are you going to feed more cool air over the motherboard, importantly the gpu is less likely to choke as the 360 setup won't be doing shit for airflow for the gpu as the fans will be pulling the air away long before it travels down to the gpu.

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>38C idle with a 1050ti in a SFF case
That's colder than my 3060 pc with six 140mm fans and a case three times larger.

>>109599663
360 is 1/3 bigger, that is not a "pretty small" difference.

Otherwise yep that case is not optimal for a 360 setup.

>>109599653
>>109599663
Okay, that all makes sense. Thank you for the advice. I'm really just trying to make my PC a bit quieter. It's already not that loud, but I want it as quiet as possible.

I'll try switching my radiator fans to the latest 140mm Noctua models and see if that helps at all.

>>109599695
I'm honestly not even sure a 360 AIO would help anything. I think I'm bottle necked by the IHS on my 9850X3D. Because my fans running at 1600 RPM keep the CPU the same temperature as the fans running at 2400 RPM.

>>109599695
280*140=39200
360*120=43200
43200 is 10% more than 39200

>>109599719
>fans running at 1600 RPM keep the CPU the same temperature as the fans running at 2400 RPM

Does the pump also have a curve you can adjust? This might make a bigger difference.

>>109599719
> Because my fans running at 1600 RPM keep the CPU the same temperature as the fans running at 2400 RPM.
Zen 4 and 5 are designed to boost as aggressively as they can until they hit either a temperature limit or power limit. Realistically you aren't hitting the power limit before tjmax so what you get is the cpu runs at the same temperature but the clocks fluctuate to accommodate. While I wouldn't expect much impact in real world usage but do a test between 1600rpm and 2400rpm and see if the clockspeed is the same under a sustained load.

>>109599745
retard - 360 is 1/3 more than 280

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>>109599754
I'm sure it does, but it's so quiet I can't hear it either way. All I really hear is the fans.

>>109599758
A lot of this goes over my head, I'm not the most tech literal person. But I have an under volt curve of 25 on my CPU with something like a 250MHz over clock. And when I do a CPU stress test, and the it's at 100% it maxes out at ~70C (with both 1600 RPM and 2400 RPM).

I did not look at the boost clocks because I didn't even know that was something to look for.

>>109599775
I don't know, that seems to make sense.

Is pny a good gpu brand?

>>109599799
You're probably fine - but you should really check to see if your pump can be controlled, it's as important as the fan speeds IMHO.

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>>109598349
>>109598157
>>109598278
Why is everyone's idle so high? I have a NH-D15 G2 and when I max out all the cores using stress -c 16 the temperature is in the low nineties. Is this right?

>>109599807
Meh. I have a PNY 4070 Super from some years ago that just /works/, but it's not the best in terms of noise and cooling design.

I only bought it because it was the least expensive 4070S I could find at the time.

>>109599817
mine >>109598278 is high because I setup for super low noise while shitposting, I ramp up the fans and pump when under load (so even loading up a vidya or some webpages makes it spin up a bit).

Its not going to hurt anything to idle at 55.

>>109599817
>Using a 420mm AIO, my 9800X3D idles around 50 and peaks in the low 80s.
That seems really high. I have a 280mm AIO and a 9850X3D which runs hotter than a 9800X3D, and it sits at around 38C idle, and caps out at 72C under 100% load.

What brand of AIO do you have?

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Is the next generation of AMD CPUs and GPUs coming out this century

>>109599799
>I did not look at the boost clocks because I didn't even know that was something to look for.

Honestly anon stop worrying about it - you have the 280mm AIO now, it fits in the case in a good position and you don't gain much from a 360mm radiator in surface area. A few hundred mhz on the boost clocks in either direction is negligible for performance unless you are really, really tuning a system which does not sound like it here. Keep what you have and be happy knowing the only way to do better is to throw SERIOUS money at the problem.

These days the actual fans used on coolers matters more than the cooler designs themselves.

>>109599855
Bro, chill. Waitchads always win. I repeat, always win.

>>109599856
>Keep what you have and be happy knowing the only way to do better is to throw SERIOUS money at the problem.
That's fair. It's not so much about fine tuning anything, I was just trying to see if I could get my PC to run a bit quitter.

>These days the actual fans used on coolers matters more than the cooler designs themselves.
Right now I have the be quiet! Silent Wings Pro 4s on my AIO.
I guess I'll try Noctua's best 140mm fans and see if those help at all. It's a cheap upgrade. If I can find the fans on sale.

>>109599833
I always thought they were chinesium and that pny stood for pinoy or something but i guess they are a US brand?

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>>109599817
image having another ccd in there.
anyway: you are looking at core temps not tctl.

>>109599178
It's probably the games fault. Genshins new version is apparently pretty buggy and causes a lot of game freezes.

>>109599899
it's all chinkshit, anon.

>>109599509
damn that motherboard mad cool

>>109599566
>return the board
Actually the board is the cheapest part of the build, a single ECC ram stick costs around 160$USD and the CPU that allegedly supports ECC 300$USD

Wonder why ECC support isn’t a common thing on old desktop motherboardS

>>109599953
ECC introduces overheads you don't need for a fapbox.

If you are running a workstation that has to absolutely never ever have any kind of cosmic-ray-induced bitflip or something then you justify having it.

>>109599719
You need to set custom fan curves on the BIOS to minimize Arctic fan noise, they will run loud past 1000 RPM.
https://support.arctic.de/en/pwm-settings

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is this a decent upgrade?
i already got a rtx 3080 and a fractal torrent case with good fans and dont feel like i need to replace those

>>109599979
I'm using the be quiet Pure Loop 3 AIO, not Arctic.

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>>109599906
The tctl seems the same as the previous image I sent.

>>109599855
Zen 6 Epyc "Venice" was announced last month, so other Zen 6 products will probs be on the way too

>>109599953
>Actually the board is the cheapest part of the build
Cost isn't the reason why you would return that board.
You return it if it doesn't fully support ECC like you need it to.

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>>109599906
Oh, nevermind, I see it is higher at idle, that must be what you meant.

>>109599983
You might want to get better ram.

>>109599990
>Silent Wings Pro 4
These Pro fans aren't for people who want to minimize fan noise, these are for people who need the higher RPM.
Not a single PC case fan can run silently while running at above 1500 RPM.
400~1000 RPM is the sweet spot for fan noise schizos.

>>109600025
might go for a 6000 mts but it will cost me so much more, is it really worth paying 150 euro more for a little better memory?

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>>109600038
So what you're saying is I just need to suck it up and get Noctua fans.

>>109599973
> ECC introduces overheads you don't need

Nice try but I wont let the CIA convince me that I don’t need ECC for my “fapbox” NAS

>>109600007
but then I’ll get left with an specific ECC RAM stick and a CPU for an specific chipset motherboard.

I’m pretty sure there must be an old/cheap desktop motherboard that fully support ECC and modern GPUs but either everybody gatekeeping or I suck at searching

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>>109600069
You'll still need to set custom fan curves for that 140mm G2.
I've read some people complain these sound less pleasant than the older models at higher RPMs (A14, A12x25 G1).
Some fans will run more effectively at lower decibel levels as well.

>>109597633
Based Define R4 user. I refuse to leave mine behind for a newer case. Things a tank.

>>109600058
Apparently so. Those RAM chips are like slow CL46 ones, which is probably why they are so cheap. When I build my last pc. ddr5 48gb kits were like 800-1200€.

>>109600110
Guess I have some research to do.
Thanks for the heads up.

>>109600095
>but then I’ll get left with an specific ECC RAM stick and a CPU for an specific chipset motherboard.
This won't matter if you still need a fully ECC RAM supporting PC using consumer grade motherboards (move on to the next "confirmed" ASRock or ASUS AM4 board).
If you don't actually need ECC RAM support, stop wasting your time.

>>109600095
>I wont let the CIA convince me that I don’t need ECC for my “fapbox” NAS

For a server, sure, it's better to have ECC.

>there must be an old/cheap desktop motherboard that fully support ECC and modern GPUs

Old workstations from Dell, HP, Fujitsu, etc.. typically use ECC and can be had with PCIe 4 on the cheap, not normally very power-efficient and use Xeon CPUs.

>>109600123
The Silent Wings 4 Pro fans are great for most people.
Find the noise/performance RPM sweet spot for those fans, I'm guessing it'll be at around 800 ~ 1200 RPM.
You should have the fans ramp up when the processor is running at above 75°C (sub 2000 RPM should still be fine), and near maximum RPM when it's +85°C.

>>109600144
Honestly, I have to google search and watch some guides on how to set fan curves. I have no idea what I'm looking at.

>>109600164
They are just set points (determined by temperature) where a fan spins at a given speed.

>>109600164
The Arctic support page I linked earlier is a guide to setting BIOS fan curves for all major board vendors.
https://support.arctic.de/en/pwm-settings

You don't have to follow their exact curve points.
Max RPM for 140mm Silent Wing Pro 4 is 2400, 30% to 45% PWM will probably be the constant fan speed sweet spot until CPU temps reach above 70°C.

>>109600127
>>109600130

> move on to the next "confirmed" ASRock or ASUS AM4 board
My budget tight so I want a workstation that can also perform as a reliable NAS.

https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/301589-motherboards-am4-ecc-support

so many mixed signals about this motherboard

When will Enders post the new meta gun build?

>>109600207
You aren't finding what you want because it doesn't exist.

>>109600207
If the CIA or FBI wants to raid your NAS, they'll just walk away with the hard drives.
This is the wrong reason to need a PC with ECC RAM, ECC corrects silent data corruption.

>>109597174
I remeber when the intial price hikes were hitting and people were buying off branded and slower ram on amazon here I could still buy 2x64gb kits for hmm how much did they cost like 400eur, this was post hike
same with the 2x48gb kits smoething like that
not optimal timings oooh so bad, nope should have just boughted maybe
mayhbe shoukd have bouhtgted ssd too
from summer to this summer 2x32 64gb on sale 10x'd in price though that is certain

>>109597720
>Personally I want a gsync pulsar monitor because I still play games at 30fps because of emulators, and I want to see if it's worth it (I would probably just return it if I couldn't feel a difference).
pulsar only has a 60fps locked ulmb2 mode though
they scrapped the 48fps meme last I heard
and sub 90fps you are gonna start seeing flicker
strobing is a bad meme then
you wanna have a seizure running low fps?

>>109599855
leaks saying amd new gen coming before nvidia atleast?

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>>109600268
kek I only got mildly fucked at the beginning of the RAMpocalypse, was desperate to find any deal then too.

This same RAM is $950 USD now and it's still shitty Samsung, no O/C of RAM for me.

>>109597406
you should really be on 1440p. 5060ti handles it fine, DLSS is excellent and you probably gain fps over 1080p native

>>109600110
Why do arctic get shilled so much yet people also say they're noisey?

Is $400 a good price for a used Asus dual 4070?

>>109600310
its only getting worse in 2027
imagine getting a bsod in current year

>>109600255
> You aren't finding what you want because it doesn't exist
TRX50 motherboards have all I need, PCIe for more than one GPU, chipset for a good CPU with virtualization support, and fully ECC support, the only con is the crazy price and that cringy “gamer” design all new motherboards have

>>109600259
> If the CIA or FBI wants to raid your NAS, they'll just walk away with the hard drives.
im sure the mossad knows whats on my drives by now with CSME

> wrong reason to need a PC with ECC RAM
I wanna manage all my emails on a RAID using some sort of iPOP3. I can’t afford data corruption

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>>109600357
pic related

>>109600376
>TRX50 motherboards have all I need
OFC because they are workstation boards. average anons aren't doing Threadripper builds for their fapboxen, with the TRX50 you are at a different level entirely.

You should totally do a 1TB RAM build, anon.

>Seasonic PRIME ENTERPRISE RX-1600 became the first PSU to get 80 plus Ruby certified
Well dammit. Now my 80 plus titanium FSP Hydro TI Pro looks like complete shit.

>>109599674
I like modding these SFF office PCs. It's because they're so low power that they don't ever draw enough heat. Adding more fans makes it more efficient also.

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This looks ugly af but I guess there's a market for it?

>>109600502
Given the price, it's more of an "Art piece" I guess.
Nobody is going to be actually taking the parts out and upgrading it over time, it's going to sit on somebody's desk and when it gets outdated, they'll buy a new PC and it'll go into storage or something.

Even then, I doubt they're going to sell that many of them.

>>109600502
That board doesn't even have the btf connector required for that 5090 to run at 800w

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>>109598278
> 9950X3D here - idles around 55°C (Tctl/Tdie) using Arctic Freezer Pro III
picrel mine, PBO -20, @23°C room temp, ALF3 Pro 420 @660rpm, TG Contact Frame, TG Duronaut, case: ASUS ProArt PA602 fans @500rpm

You may have forgotten to remove the foil from the cooler before installation. Or the heatspreader has no even contact with the cooler, leaving an insulating gap.
55°C is what I get when gaming.

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This retard has his displayed plugged into his iGPU on the CPU.
I wish he'd reply to my message I sent a week ago.

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Is it delusional to think 16gb VRAM isn't future-proof considering next gen consoles will have 32GB?

>>109600628
>next gen consoles will have 32GB
That was never even sort of confirmed by anyone.

>>109600628
Nice try, Jenson

>>109600628
No game ever uses 16GB of VRAM.

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>>109600597
>You may have forgotten

Naw I'm deliberately running this warm so as to be in near silent mode. I can get the temps down but then it wouldn't be silent, which was my design goal. I live in the woods with very little background noise, pic related in my garden.

Room temp is 25-26C (78F) at the moment, in winter my idle will be a few degress less. At idle the AIO fans are at ~830RPM, the pump is running at 50% (Arctic does not report the pump speed accurately). My RAM and mainboard are also running warm, I do have a fan to wash air over them but it's set for 0 RPM until demand spikes the RAM temps up, GPU is at zero RPMs, PSU also at zero RPMs at idle, etc..

Was using an old HP workstation for a long time and the constant whirrrrrrrrrrr drove me mad. Now the system makes a gentle "whoosh" once in a while while I fap on 4chins, and if I do give it a load it's still much more quiet than the old warhorse ever was.

>>109600628
16gb will go the way of the 8gb GPUs in 4 years time

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buy chinese made graphics cards!

>>109600796
I've already got one gpu with nonexistent driver support, I don't want another.

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>>109599906
still not an excuse for those temps. Are you fanlet or aislop maybe with bad paste?

>>109600796
>Buy a GPU
>Driver support of AMD
>Performance of Intel
>Price:Performance of Nvidia
>Somehow, nobody wants it.

Incredible.

>>109600818
>>109600811
The apple retard dillema

>>109600502
It's for people who like to show off expensive & gaudy possessions.

>>109600350
Arctic P-series fans are designed to be budget-friendly & maximize static pressure as they're included in AIO coolers and CPU heatsinks.
These fans don't have the manufacturing budget to be noise optimized at higher RPMs compared to be Quiet or Noctua fans.

I can get a 4070 super for $400 or a 4070 ti super for $600 I can’t decide if the extra $200 is worth it when I know I’ll be upgrading by the time gta 6 comes out on pc

>>109600691
wrong, we will have 96bit bus GPU's with 6gb of vram for $200 using the higher capacity gddr7 chips, and we will cheer for the needful low end GPU.

>>109600969
GTA 6 PC might release 2027 holiday season the soonest.
There was a 19 month gap between GTA 5 console to PC, 13 month gap for RDR2.
4070 Ti Super might hold better resale value, can't say for sure though.

>>109601059
*my bad 96bit would mean it would have 9gb of vram

>>109600969
4070 super. Do not overpay for 6800xt performance. Anon got the latter for $200 earlier.

>>109601059
You mean 64bit
Maybe 64bit will be good enough for 8gb by then since there'll be 4gb gddr7

>>109601069
How did he manage that? Everyone seems pissed when I send low offers for their used cards like they all want 3/4ths of retail after 3 years of owning it

>>109601063
They are going to wait for the double dip when next gen consoles come out for pc release. When gta 5 came out on pc the current best card still couldn’t run it at max settings 1080p

>>109601135
Rockstar won't prioritize graphical fidelity, they want as many niggers and spics spending money on the new GTA Online.
Technology wise, the leaked footage isn't impressive at all

>>109601063
The delayed release is such an insane thing to still do in 2026.

I guess the double-dip is really that profitable. But, man just seems like such a waste of everyone's time.

>>109601122
Money is worth half as much as 3 years ago so 3/4th is essentially 3/8th the original price

>>109601108
if we had 4gb gddr7 we might even have a $150 4gb GPU in the future!

>>109601122
Nvidia cards people want almost full retail value, AMD cards you can often haggle down.

>>109601253
I never looked into amd cards because I kept hearing about their driver issues and in general being subpar to Nvidia in every way.

>>109601325
RX 9000 series is fine if you don't need CUDA or path tracing option.

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Arctic P12 Pro 5-pack is discounted to $18.09 @ US Amazon.
Can't find a better set of fans at this price.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DJDDCG4M

>>109597175
Why use paste instead of graphite sheets? You just tighten it down with no worry about spread patterns, no mess and never expires because it's just carbon.

>>109600112
It's alright. The rubber grommets in mine are starting to fall apart now. I also dislike the HDD trays.

>>109601325
It's time to put this shit to rest this is like the modern day equivalent of "I wont buy ryzen because i only know core i7s"

>>109599674
nice desk, looks comfy

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>>109600817
This cpu has been a nightmare on the temp front. Multiple re-mounts. Multiple re-pastes. Multiple pastes even. I bought a new AIO thinking the old one was just not cut out for it. I have phasesheet on it now and its still like that.
You can see core7 in my last image is WAY higher than the rest; i've though about just disabling it to bring averages down lol.
The oddest things:
>its obviously bouncing off of tjmax but it scores hundreds of points higher (in cinebench) than any other 9950x3d2 iv seen (in real time)
>If i set it to 85C tjmax it hardly changes the score at all
>tdie delta is explained by cdd1 maintaining higher clocks consistently.

>>109599906
Your core5 and core7 seems to be the ones pushing the highest temps and probably the highest voltages/clocks

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I know they're like releasing new monitors soon, but I'm poor
and I see a XG32UCWMG at like $670
Should I?

I want a 32 inch 4k monitor, my current one is a 27inch 1440P monitor.
and 24 inch 1080P side monitors.

I just need someone to tell me "sure, go ahead, whatever" and I'm gonna do it

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>>109602841
nvm, I bought it already.
please affirm my purchase decision when you have time.

>>109601623
Paste is more effective at filling in the gaps between IHS and cold plate and can offer better thermal conductivity. Carbon pads are more suited for applications where there will be low or no maintenance for extended periods and more extreme temperature deltas. This is why carbon pads were showing up being used in laptops initially.

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>>109602832
they are. supposedly core 5 is the best one of that ccd. core 7 has a -25 offset and still gets like that when most of the other cores are only -15/-20.

Is there a reason why people larp a lot when it comes to monitor cleaning online? Legit tried all of the dogshit larp from glasses cleaners to some retarded alcohol spray mixtures, and literally fucking tap water + microfiber cloth gave factory-new results.

>>109603192
it depends on how you handle your monitor. If you touch the panel, sneeze or get other dirt on it tap water may not be enough but most of the times it's plenty

>>109602620
Sorry about your garbage CPU temps

Really good to see you have a fan over your memory, really neat mounting, what case and bracket is that? I have an Matx build and am struggling to fit a large fan over the memory, been thinking of printing this https://www.liquidhaus.com/products/ofst but I'd need to use the offset version (as my gpu slot is in the top most position which obscures the mounting holes) so the memory fans will probably impinge on top radiator, wish there were cases that had 70mm or more top rad space that arent massive eatx cases.

Also dust your case and tidy your cables pls

>>109603301
its some random bracket from amazon. i just searched "ram fan bracket" and its there somewhere. the case is an old thermaltake urban t81.
the cables are in the best place they can be, trust me dude there is no better way. as for the dust... maybe in a few more months.
that dust on the bottom will not be removed, some of it is over a decade old. its a national treasure by this point.

>>109602890
its fine

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I need drives. Some local business that buys up tech from defunct other businesses sells these with two months of warranty. I am most interested in longevity. Which should I go for?
>2 Ultrastar HC520 12 TB, 300 bucks each, practically brand new
>2 Ultrastar HC550 18 TB, 370 bucks each, 20k to 40k hours

Alright lads, recently built a new PC. No advice needed, it's already here, built, and stuffed full of chinese MMOs, esports games, AI models and gay porn. Let's see what we got and what it cost:

Board: Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX: £115
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600: £169.99
Case: Phanteks XT Pro ATX Mid: £52.98
PSU: MSI MAG A750GL: £79.99
Drives: Silicon Power 1TB UD90 NVMe + a 500gb m2 drive I'd upgraded my old laptop with + a 2tb chunky HDD from my old desktop: £124.99 + whatever the fuck I paid for those years ago
RAM: 32 gigs DDR5: £280
GPU: RX 6950 XT 16gig: £400
Monitor: AOC 27" 180hz 1440: £84.00
Sound bar: Soulion r30: £21.99

So, adding all that up: £1328.99
Now, the edge comes off that a little bit because I was able to trade in a couple old GPUs I had to CEX for like 180 off that GPU, so, the total cash spend was about £1148.99

Given the fucked ass RAM market I obviously overpaid but give my option was "280 for 32 gigs today, or like 180-200 for 16 gigs today and eventually upgrade at let's be honest probably even more god damned fucking expensive" I just grossly overpaid on RAM.
Everything else felt pretty much right but I've barely paid attention to the market for a while so.
RAM and GPU were from CEX because they have a 5 year guarantee on their shit and decent customer support. I could probably have gotten things VERY slightly cheaper elsewhere if I'd waited longer and deal hunted harder, and maybe tried to sell my old GPUs for a few bucks more than I got for them at CEX trade in credit, but, that's weeks of dicking around I didn't feel like doing.
Also, amusing story, when I first bought my GPU from CEX they'd mislabelled the damn thing and no one had noticed, myself included, until I had it home and installed into the case and it wasn't working and I realized "why the hell does that say 6750 XT on it?". Turns out some dipshittery at CEX. They just took it back, gave me my money back, and I bought the right one online.

Anyway new PC new me.

>>109603683
Drive longevity is a dice roll. Buy whatever is the cheapest per TB and make sure you can recover from drive failures.

>>109603683
>I am most interested in longevity.
Then you'd buy HDDs in newer condition.

>>109603728
The 12 TB ones have 10 hours on them.

>>109603754
Good, that cuts the worst part of the bathtub curve out

>>109597218
I love how we are at the point where people actually admit AIOs infact do not last after people lied their ass off for years.

They really are just an extremely shitty loop with literally all the same longevity problems but people gaslit themselves and others that somehow they solved the problems that are apparently "impossible" to solve to custom loops.

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Should I buy an AM5 motherboard with 32gb of ram now and wait for next AMD cpus? I don't want prices to go up higher. Current build is an old 5800x3d and 64GB DDR4.

Do buttpebble mobos still fry X3D chips? looking to make the jump to AM5 and there's a combo deal on a x870E Nova + a 7800X3D

>>109603888
Sensible people have always said AIOs can't last forever because of coolant permeation or pump failure.
They last long enough for the next upgrade cycle (4~7 years).
You buy AIOs if air cooled CPU heatsinks are insufficient, and if you don't want to commit to a full custom liquid cooling setup.

I'd only do custom liquid cooling for flagship processors.

>>109603895
I'd stick to your current setup and huddle up until DDR6, but I don't care if games dip to 60fps in 0.1% minimums, you do you

>>109603895
People are expecting the memory speed sweet spot for future AM5 CPUs to be at 8000 MT/s.
Hynix DDR5 chips can generally run 8000 MT/s with enough voltage, but the 6000 MT/s CL30 binned ones usually require over 1.5V.
We also don't know the performance gain of running Zen 6 CPUs with +8000 MT/s memory speeds.
This may not matter much on -X3D chips.

>>109603932
>Sensible people have always said AIOs can't last forever because of coolant permeation or pump failure.
>They last long enough for the next upgrade cycle (4~7 years).
What wasn't said however is the issue of corrosion and flux residue which degrades performance in an even shorter interval.
This is stuff that does affect custom loops if not done right, and AIOs are "not done right" by the same standard as they mix metals and don't clean radiator flux.

What bothers me is that it was pitched that these are not problems that will exist with AIOs while a custom loop will always have these issues with some going as far as saying it's a guarantee even with heavy maintenance or correct setup.

>>109603913
Someone asked this question in the last thread and the answer remains the same: don't.

They did roll out BIOS updates to fix Voltages but the whole dilemma left a sour taste in my mouth, i wouldn't trust Asrock with my life. Same with Gigabyte after their whole exploding PSU's fiasco way back in 2021

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>>109603913
Yes. Check the ASRock subreddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1vrfpfe/it_happened/

X870E Nova's discounted quite heavily in the US, buy it if you're feeling extremely high "it won't happen to me" energy (the odds are in your favor).

>>109603932
still not putting literal fluid inside my pc

>>109604002
>the issue of corrosion
Covered by RMA as seen by Arctic's recall.

>flux residue which degrades performance in an even shorter interval.
This won't cause noticeable degradation in that short period, it's covered by warranty if it is.

>>109604013
Ouch, looks like that combo deal is out of the table then

>>109603913
X3D chips fry X3D chips
the motherboard is just along for the ride

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>>109604037
It won't happen to you. They're scripted NPCs.

What’s the point of x3d CPUs if you’re not going to do 1080p or 1440p gaming? I can’t find any other use case for them which means your getting shittier cpu cooling and thermal headroom than non x3d CPUs

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>>109603696
>GPU: RX 6950 XT 16gig: £400

>>109604169
>I cant find any other use case
Anything that is memory speed intensive also benefits from X3D. If you can't figure out what programs need it then that's on you.

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How do the zowie dyac3 monitors compare to nvidia pulsar?

>>109603888
5 years is long enough. I'd rather have an AIO with a flagship CPU than one of those huge air coolers.

>>109603696
>AI models
>GPU: RX 6950 XT 16gig
how well is that working out for you? Genuine question because I'm looking at a similar AMD gpu and also wanting to get into local AI
all the Nvidia GPUs on facebook marketplace are the same price with less VRAM

t. noob at local AI

>>109604207
They can get up to crazy refresh rates but anything more than 360hz is getting into heavy diminishing returns tier.

>>109604020
>This won't cause noticeable degradation in that short period
It does tho, it's why cooler master felt the need to develop something to filter it because it would get into the block and degrade performance.
>the issue of corrosion
>Covered by RMA as seen by Arctic's recall.
You're missing my point entirely.
AIOs are treated as if they will never corrode or as very unlikely despite mixed metals.
Custom loops however are treated as if they will always even with like metals, it was a point of contention for why you would buy an AIO.

I just perceive there was an insane double standard at play.

>>109604311
The fact is reputable manufacturers like Arctic or be Quiet will send people a replacement AIO if there's serious performance degradation within their 5~6 year warranty period.
You're taking this topic way too personally.

I found a prebuilt with a 7950x3d, 5070ti, 32gb ram cl52, 2gb ssd gen4 for $2850 cad, nearly bought it, but its air cooled by "150W Air Cooling with ARGB." Im worried air cooling isnt enough for an x3d cpu.

>>109604674
so just put a better cooler one it

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>>109604674
>32gb ram cl52
>cl52
Trash.

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Scouting an upgrade later down the road from my 3070Ti. Any recommendations for 1440p gaming? Motherboard is an MSI B760 Tomahawk.
>inb4 he didn't buy before the RAMpocalypse
I was a poorfag uni student, but now I got some money to prepare for the holidays.

>>109604718
Isn't half the point of x3d cpus that they make the difference between low and high clock ram marginal

>>109603696
Kind of insane that desktop has lower specs than a laptop I bought for the same price in January 2025

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>>109604311
>>109604742
DRAM doesn't matter as much for X3D CPUs.
That prebuilt is worth reconsidering if the rest of the parts are decent.
Boxed 9950X3D is cheaper than an 7950X3D.

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>>109604731
>I was a poorfag uni student, but now I got some money to prepare for the holidays.
Video card prices are already fucked, a 9070 XT costs over US$700.
9060 XT 16GB is slightly weaker than the 3070 Ti when 8GB VRAM isn't the bottleneck.

You'd probably have to settle for one of the RX 9070 models (GRE, non-XT, XT).

>>109597061
AUGH I WISH I HAD BOUGHT A 5090

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>>109597061
>296W
296W
>296W

>>109604939
based
preordering immediately

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>>109604828
>a 9070 XT costs over US$700
Fucking hell, I remember when my 3070Ti costed around that much back in 2023, and that was at my local Micro Center. I'll look into the AMD GPUs at my Micro Center or a used marketplace; I think my current monitor supports FreeSynch, so that's more incentive to switch off the shovel sellers at Nvidia. At the very least I'll look for 12GB, but I'm willing to bite the bullet if I can keep a steady 120FPS for multiplayer games at midrange settings. [spoilers]It helps that I'm not really into the idea of graphical fidelity most western games push towards, let alone 4K gaming.[/spoiler]

>>109604949
What if it's only clocked at 6ghz instead of 7ghz

>>109604954
>fucked up spoilers
Anyways, thanks for the info and advice.

>>109604958
6ghz all core sounds great
thank you intel

>>109604954
Look for Micro Center's open box video card deals, there are some hidden gems.
I don't know if they sell refurbished cards, but these should be stress tested before the return period lapses.

I got a replacement PSU from an RMA, it's supposed to be the same one but this one rated platinum and A instead of gold and A- like the previous one. Does that matter at all? If anything I hope it's from a better batch that won't die after just over a year.

>>109604731
ARC B580 is supposedly quite good for 1440p on the budget end. You could probably cut it with another xx70/Ti model, or a 4080 super if you can get a super good open box or refurb deal.

>>109604939
so they're adding monstrous amounts of cache and STILL need to make it a housefire. It's going to be a disaster.

>>109605009
You may have received a newer revision, it's good for you.

>>109604771
Aside from what I posted, an 850w psu, no info on the case or the motherboard. A review says "you can't upgrade the motherboard" ??, so the motherboard might be proprietary to fit into the case, so at worst I think I'd be looking to upgrade case, motherboard and cooler post purchase

>>109605020
Anon a b580 is around 4060 performance his 3070 ti is significantly faster than it. The only upgrade path without overspending is a 5070

>>109604266
AMD is absolutely atrocious for AI, especially older models.

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>>109605098
>The only upgrade path without overspending is a 5070
The cheapest 5070 costs US$700, and it has a slim cooler.

>>109604417
>The fact is reputable manufacturers like Arctic or be Quiet will send people a replacement AIO if there's serious performance degradation within their 5~6 year warranty period.
Doesn't refute the fact people basically lied.
>we'll fix it when it gunks up too bad
Is way different than
>you don't have to worry about a thing till it drys up
>You're taking this topic way too personally
Are you not?

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>>109600628
Thank god we are one year away from these retarded post to cease to exist. Imagine /pcbg/ when consoles either get delayed or launch with only 20 gb of unified memory in the big 2028 , RDNA 5 flops and is still slower than the now 7 year old 4090 and RDNA4 gets put in maintenance mode

>>109605110
is a 5070, it draws 220 W with proper undervolt/overclock, you dont need better cooling until you go for a 5070 TI on the nvidia side because how power efficient blackwell is

>>109597061
I'm not sure what to build. I can't decide if I should go am4 or spend more for am5. I'm a poorfag. I just want to be able to play games at 1080p

>>109605111
No, I'm not taking this issue personally.
All you have to do is to send the degraded AIO for a replacement unit if it becomes a genuine issue (thermal throttling or radiator fans needing to run noticeably louder).
The Liquid Freezer II's been out for nearly 6 years, and most of the people who own this AIO's been using it for around 3~5 years.
Very few people are fudding & issuing RMAs about the shit you're whining about.

Do those problems exist? Sure.
Is it bad enough to file a warranty or buy a replacement? Not during their intended lifecycle.

>>109605160
ryzen 5600 and arc b580 will play games at 1080p at 100fps+

>>109605160
>I'm a poorfag.
Go AM4, you can't justify the the cost of moving up to AM5.

The rerelease of the 5800X3D got me thinking, would it even be possible for AMD to go back and develop an entirely new CPU for AM4? That would be so based.

£3800 for a prebuilt with a 5090 worth pulling the trigger?

>>109605126
All this shit doesn't change that fact that paying $700 for a 5070 is overspending.

>>109600628
>considering next gen consoles
The next gen consoles aren't coming anywhere close to the nearest future. Neither are new graphics cards. What we have now is what we'll have for the next two years.

So I have a ssd from my laptop that broke and 2 8gb ddr4 2600mhz sticks. I'm thinking about putting together a pc with a 5500 and rx 7600. Will this be fine for 1080p? This around $650 for parts from amazon.

>>109597061
I am currently using a 9800x3d and a zotac 4070 ti trinity OC. I have it housed in a corsair 4000D but REALLY want to buy a new motherboard and case to have a small form factor. I want to use the Fractal Design Terra, but I was a stupid groid and bought RGB RAM (corsair vengeance rgb) when I built the pc in like 2023. And I need a air cooler for the terra that doesnt force me to buy new ram with the current prices. What would you consider to be my best option? Im in the US and dont have a budget I'll spend whatever

>>109605246
I mean, no.
But also yeah, kinda.
5090 is like 2k quid now on the cheap.

>>109605246
you're in the era of everything being expensive
you either need a 5090, or you don't need one.
so money is no longer an issue since there's no more wiggle room.

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man buys 16 5060ti's
in the comments he says it delivers twice the flops of RTX6000 Pro while costing 40% less

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So demoralized and tired and I need to do other things anyway
I guess it's better to forget about gaymen and hardware for a while
Wake my cryopod up at 6090 release I'm going back In

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>>109605460
buy a chinky mini itx case that can accommodate fat tower coolers. Those can even use normal ATX psus and are only about 10L. Not the smallest, but the 9800x3D wants a little more than a low profile cpu cooler.

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>>109605492

>>109604939
I believe in anime girl avatar posters

>>109605246
thats cheap if it's a 9800x3d+32-64 whatever prebuilt, like 1000 euros cheaper than here
aka the cost of one singular 5090
5.5k eur for one of those prebuilts here because they are built perfore price hikes
after price hikes that shit will be 9k
last chance bucko

>>109604939
l o l

How long does an AIO typically last? Does the liquid start molding and shit over time?

>>109605791
Your probably problem is gonna be the pump giving out.

>>109605791
You lose some liquid to evaporation eventually, and this causes air bubbles that wears the pump out a bit.
It takes years. And I've never known anyone to actually break an AIO, more just that they get a little noisey, and people decide "Oh this AIO is 6 years old, and a new one is like $80 so I guess it's time" and they do that.

>>109605791
5 to 7 years is likely if you buy one with a five-year warranty.

>>109604207
check the current reviews
I think it's clearer than pulsar but might still be more strobe crosstalk
even old dyac2 was the same but they are different
less smudgy than IPS due to TN
they will be making a 1080p 1000hz too
24" 1440p360hz pulsar is 27" minimum

>>109604169
>What’s the point of x3d CPUs if you’re not going to do 1080p or 1440p gaming?
everyone is doing 1080p and 1440p gaming since everyone is doing upscaling now a days regardless what res you are on
>your getting shittier cpu cooling and thermal headroom than non x3d CPUs
irrelevant copes though

>>109603895
only if you play cpu demanding games else seems retarded
or own a 5090

>>109603192
water and microfiber works unless you cum on your screen and smudge fat all over and its a qdoled and you need something to dissolve the fats probably

>>109602890
>>109602841
your colors will be washed out due to the white subpixel wrgb, it's over anon
should have boughted qdoled

>>109605605
6090 is going to be for servers only. Jensen will connect you to the hive only for $19.99/mo.
Build your Noah's Ark now to survive the coming bad years while you still can.

hows RTX 3080 in 2026?

>>109605853
it's like in 60fps 1080P territory.
if by "in 2026" as "play 2026 games"

>>109605824
it probably depends on how you installed it as well. There are setups that kill it much faster than others