Fateussy EditionPrevious Thread: >>8084114>LOCAL WEBUI SETUPhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wikiOptimizations *NEW*https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824>LOCAL FORGEUIMaintained branch:https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2>LOCAL COMFYUIhttps://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUIhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/https://openart.ai/workflows/templates>LOCAL MODELShttps://civitai.com/models/257749/https://civitai.com/models/288584/https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESFeatures: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/FeaturesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnetIOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/installBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfEF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
Cunny, please and thank you.
a few threads back I was asking other anons about how they're handling storing/organizing their images. I came across szurubooru as a good solution - self hosted booru site that has tagging and all that. highly recommended for any other fellow hoarders.
>>8086728Another reason why tentacle hair is superior
>>8086793good gen
>>8086800thanks
>>8086798Seeing the thumbnail I thought you were doing thread highlights.
>>8086797Based request
>>8086798The me from 15 years ago would have loved this shitCant bother doing that for all the porn I have nowadays thoAlso surprised you managed to get a dino onesie because I just couldnt do it
>>8086797Cringe request
>>8086805I stole the dino onesie from this thread I thinkI have it set up to autotag using wd14, and it can also pull in tags from public boorus for non-stable diffusion stuff
>>8086793too large breasts but good gen>>8086798does it has autocaptioning? can't be bothered writing something else than character name and if its cunny or not
>>8086811there is out of the box captioning but It's not that good. I have a custom script I wrote to tag using the Kohya UI and then update via the szuru API.
>Hey guys is there any way I can-Inpaint.>Uhmm actually I wanted to-INPAINT>b-butI N P A I N T
>>8086797Request request
>>8086815based
>>8086815cringe
>>8086800>>8086811>>8084562>>8086815unironically yesall this regional prompting cope is easily solved with a few minutes of smudgy approximate editing
>>8086827How that femboy ever end up with her is a fucking mystery to me.
>>8086827nice melt faggot
>>8086834>>8086828>>8086819>>8086815Based.
>>8086828there's stuff you'd like to gen more consistently than manually drawing over and over again like multiple chars, it still takes alot of rerolls to get good forge couple gen while having to gen stuff slower so i usually give up and mash several t2i together until it looks passable
>>8086849Grody what do you think about cunny?
>>8086851link?
>>8086849Grody what's your opinion about Cascade or wd?
>>8086849Grody where's the B lora?
>>8086853based
>>8086797Only cunny I have on hand, raw gen
>>8086849Grody when is NAI V4 coming out?
>>8086852>>8086854>>8086856>>8086860always grody this grody that, never how is grody?
lol
>>8086865Please respond
based
>>8086876nice
Grody, if cunny is for pedos, say "lol"
>>8086879cringe
>>8086828Yeah I know its the same gen with a blindfold on, was a good base gen and the blindfold made it better whats your point?
>>8086798
>>8086912>>8086797Damn, wrong post link
how is novelai so good? i can generate with the same prompt and get tons of different posing and angle variations yet with local i just get the same thing again and again with only slight differences. midjourney, nai, dall-e 3. why do local models lack the 'creativity engine' that powers all the good models?
I caught a site-wide 3 day for global rule 8. First time. Funny. But now I'm back.
>>8086924For some people the variations is not a good thing
>>8086924Wouldn't you want your model to be as close to the prompt as possible? If you want random slop on local, just use wildcards with poses or angles.
>>8086924>i just get the same thing again and again with only slight differencesDid you set CFG scale too high? Try 1Also, the longer the prompt the less variations you'll get, but for that matter, local models will generate you exactly what you ask for.
>>8086931So you always use the same seed for everything?
>>8086935Changing the seed typically doesn't give you "ons of different posing and angle variations" unless you omit those details from the prompt.Might as well just prompt "score_9, 1girl, standing" and let it roll.
>>8086933nice 2butt
>>8086939Sounds like omitting those things was what anon did.
>>8086939> different posing and angle variationsThat's what the prompt is for, retard. There are tons of camera positions, views, etc.The only limitation is (mostly) your imagination.
>>8086936dolphinshortbox?
The caste system is just. Dalits and shudra should know their place
>>8086944>The only limitation is (mostly) your imagination.There is no limit. If you can't gen something, train a LoRA for it, inpaint or controlnet.
>>8086945Fine, I'll make an exception.
>>8086924because the 'creativity engine' in question is millions of dollars
>>8086924Probably because most local models are close to burnt as shit. Pony working is just a fluke.
>>8086948>If you can't gen something, train a LoRA for it, inpaint or controlnet.DER EWIGE LOCALKEKIE
>>8086949common nai W
>>8086952Hello nai blur enjoyer
>>8086924>with local i just get the same thing again and again with only slight differencesThis is because there wasn't enough training data, you can notice it on Pony the most, it's what people call the "snapping" issue. You can even more or less hunt down the original pic it copied if you're bored.
>>8086946https://files.catbox.moe/uso0e1.jpgLora is actually possummachine, don't remember where I got it
>>8086941Now that's a good meal
>>8086957>there wasn't enough training datalol no it's because pony's fried as fuck so the dominating pose is burned into each tag
>>8086963NAI V3 can also suffer from the same issue, it's *extremely* rare but I've gotten pics that were 1:1 with the ones I was trying to copy out of boredom. It's undoubtedly also a training parameter issue with shit getting overbaked but it's exacerbated tenfold by the lack of data.
>>8086963It's also people using schizo negs thus removing 90% of the dataset, then prompting with the score tags which converge towards the same few "quality" poses.
>>8086957AI is fun to play with but this irks me a lot when it happens. It just gets stuck on some of those too.
SMEA feels like it should be a slider not a sampler
>>8086945Thoughts on Orcs? Sometimes I get green skinned males in my gens even though I'm not prompting for it.
>>8086960Cute artist
>>8086966>It's also people using schizo negs thus removing 90% of the datasetYeah. I haven't used negatives since Autism dropped, but it was always funny seeing people justifying that almost block 3/4s of Pony's data was a smart idea.You can also drop quality tags if you are using a Style lora that is trained decently enough, but that isn't enough to fix how deeply flawed the model is.
>>8086966>then prompting with the score tags which converge towards the same few "quality" poses.Which they wouldn't have to do had the model been trained properly...>>8086967The only way to mitigate it is to finetune the model. Or just stack a gorillion LoRAs and rape the unet even more.
>>8086976What bugs me is that when Pony was released that astralite had admitted the scoring system was a mistake, but because he got his dick sucked, because Pony was really all local had, he now thinks all of the mistakes he made with Pony are now great things.
>>8086972>>8086977>>8086978the smearthe blurlocal will never reach this level of slud- i mean creativity
>>8086966no, if you've used base pony without negs or score tags and with a good style lora you'll know that it has the exact same problem with poses and compositionsplus that's not even how negative conditioning works
>>8086981so true localsissy you tell them
>>8086981Can you post one of your local gens, please? Anything, just to see what you gen
>>8086983its only 25 dollars to make a smeary mess wtf is wrong with localtardturds
>nogen localjeets coping yet againwhy are they always like this lol, like, just bake a good model bro why you spend all day coping??
>>8086984sent ;)
>>8086989so sharp, so /h/, so good, i'm cuming
>>8086988You call that a deepthroat?You're doing it wrong.
>>8086988>>8086992goddamn this is good stuff
>>8086988which model is this ?
>>8086933I have never gotten a jacko pose that good, did you CN it?
>>8086971I don't actually care about orcs but I can see why some anons became annoyed as there were legitimately posters intentionally using them as a replacement in their weird ntr blacked fetishes. To me they're a common fantasy hentai trope stock race.
>>8086999>as there were legitimately posters intentionally using them as a replacement in their weird ntr blacked fetishesI think the worst hentai-related take I've ever seen on this god-forsaken website was something along the lines of "UHM AKSHULLY SWEATY LIKING AND JERKING OFF TO TAIMANIN ASAGI MAKES YOU A GROID-LOVING KEKIE ;)"
>>8086999I don't mind orcs, unless they are drawn in that ugly csr style
>>8087001uhhh actually it does you can cope doe...
>>8087005lol
>>8086988Not a NAI user personally but I don't mind it. I use local in my day to day gens because I've got the hardware for it and I enjoy baking LORAs. In fact I think both NAI and local users must unite against our common enemy; the Nogen.>>8086999>intentionally using them as a replacement in their weird ntr blacked fetishesIt is weird that a straight up Nation of Islam talking point from the 50s/60s has become a popular sexual fetish in the modern era. Strange times.
>>8086995nice
>>8087001that sounds like something the schizo would post as bait though, I doubt anyone actually thinks that. I'm talking about the retards who were doing 1:1 blacked images but swapping the skin color to green after getting chased out for groid posting
>>8087001Doesnt Taimanin have a male MC then his love interests get raped by beings with dark skin. How does this not make you a "GROID-LOVING KEKIE"
>>8087009based
>>8087011Oh I know exactly the dude you're talking about, didn't he also give green skin to the women and passed 'em off as goblins? lmao
>>8087012yeah
>>8087014kek
>>8087012You have interracial brainrot, seek help from a small caliber firearm.
>>8087009this
>>8087018But my description of the show was accurate was it not?
>>8087022No.
>>8087023Explain then
Is this the shit that goes into the dataset? https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=1&tags=yokochouno wonder models look like trash. thousands of useless garbage images that the training can't even comprehend
>>8087009>In fact I think both NAI and local users must unite against our common enemy; the Nogen.Based.
>>8087022Nta but iirc the girls are raped by tentacles infront of the male char and the male himself turns into a monster/orc and rapes them or something. Been a while I always skipped the parts with him in it
>>8087024>Taimanin ASAGI>thinks the main character is the guy who gets brainwashed and absorbed/turned into a monsterBrainrot.
has anyone had any success with plugging their image's into AI video apps?
>>8087030there were some links on g's new stuff posts that looked promising, haven't tried them myself though.
>>8087028>>8087029i know very little about the series just osmosis knowledgeguess i was wrong lol
>>8087033I couldn't find anything
>>8087020We could talk for a while about what should and shouldn't be posted ITT, what level of effort or curation should be put into the gens people show off, if some people post too much or just dump things in the thread that cause it to move too fast, etc etc. But all of that is underpinned by the idea that we have something to post, that we are posting on an image board, not an IRC channel, not a BBS, not a radio broadcast, but an image board. In a thread dedicated to a technology that produces images. The most basic aspect of the thread is that you post images, and you, a nogen, cannot even manage that simple task. You are content to sit on the sidelines, nipping at the heels of real posters. Pathetic, weak, and pointless, you try to start shit because you can't contribute positively, so you pull others down out of resentment. I would take a dozen groidspammers over your kind. At least what he does is worth criticism, you aren't even worth my contempt.
>>8087037i was worth your essay, hugbox poster
>>8087037NTA, but I don't like to post anything while there is a bot left untouched. I agree with the rest of your sentiment though.
>>8087039Asagi only had a fiance in the original game so that antagonists had a way to make her give up without a fight. It was pretty much that simple since NTR wasn't even the huge fetish that it is today back when the original VN came out so nobody even saw it as NTR since the fiance is also a complete non-character with no POV. He gets captured, turned into a monster and then dies.Yukikaze is the NTR'd focused sub-series of Taimanin, but even the canon for that has Rinko and Yukikaze both still as virgins since the protagonist Koutarou manages to bail them out before things fully play out.The hilarious thing is that Koutarou still essentially got cucked because the overall male lead of the franchise is now Fuuma due to the various web games and mobile games.
relapsing
>>8087044yeah, that makes sense. I definitely never got ntr vibes from him being in the hentai, his scenes were just boring as shit compared to everything else imo
>>8086998Nope, just regular prompthttps://files.catbox.moe/czltmm.jpg
>>8086793glad you liked my genhttps://files.catbox.moe/970p9k.png
>>8087039>>8087043It does suck to have a bot problem but I wouldn't let that stop you from posting. This thread's a good resource and source of inspiration and I'd hate to let it become a wasteland of bots and nogen troll posts.
Any tips for NAI besides the OP links?
>>8087052Use https://novelai.net/inspect and copy in NAI gens that get posted to learn from them. Maybe press the dice icon in the prompt box too.
>>8087052Use artist:/character:/copyright: (in that order but feel free to reverse the first 2), prompt ordering is king, use the human focus UC preset/copy it, disable the preset and prepend your own shit (default behavior with the preset on appends your custom uc instead, big difference), when mixing artists keep in mind that some might be stronger than others and that the last one in the chain usually has the most influence overall, neg "official art" and/or "official style" if it bleeds from the copyright tag, learn that ordering > deemphasis because the latter does jack and shit, keep in mind that the cutoff is September 2023 and artists need ~50 pics minimum and chars ~100 minimum to work, etc etc You can install this https://github.com/shoebillanon/Danbooru-Tags-Sort-Exporter/raw/main/Danbooru-Tags-Exporter.user.js and just copy the tags from a booru post to get started, they're automatically sorted and meta tags get prepended automatically and you can set the weights beforehand
>>8087052make sure to put amazing quality in prompt and blurry in negsthey dont help at all since the model is inherently a smeary mess but you can cope!
>>8086977me when i smear two helpings of grease across my monitor (it makes pony look like nai)
>>8087048well damn then
>>8087037I agree with you, people sit and complain at each other about random shit and they can go for an hour without posting an image on a hentai message board.
The fact that you can break an entire general forever for the average price of the average american male's mcdonalds order is endlessly entertaining
>>8087080Catbox please
>>8087077I wish I could even begin to imagine being this retarded
>>8087087You don't have to imagine anon, you *are* retarded.
>>8087085https://files.catbox.moe/t91agv.jpg
>>8087061how do i set the weights beforehand?
Here, have some Sugu's sugus
>>8087049>Great gen>Already pre-boxed for my convenience>No metadataAnon how could you
>>8087096nice
>>8087095+X = X amount of {} get added-X + X amount of [] get added
>>8087080is her left breast merging into her upper arm
>>8087102thank you! do you know any other good QoL extensions for nai?
>deletedKek
>>8087052if a tag has an exclamation point in it I've found that it can fuck with the prompt. For example for full metal panic! I'd usually have to drop the exclamation point or I'd have weird consistency issues even though their auto tag completion does not drop it.There's a few danbooru tags that have been altered:v should instead be written as peace signdouble v should instead be written as double peace|_| should instead be written as bar eyes\||/ should instead be written as open \m/:| should instead be written as neutral face;| should instead be written as neutral facebe careful when importing images for tags/settings/seeds because if you just slam the gen button you might gen at an unintended res and waste anals
Does Midkemia generate non-POV sex as well as AutismMix?
>>8087110There's the webui-style attention editing in catboxanon's link listed in the OP, it lets you use the same shortcut as local for setting weight (I forgot what it is on Windows, it's Command+up/down arrow on ChadOS) and a few other ones likehttps://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/483223-novelai-use-anlas-alert (turns the buttons orange or whatever color you want if you're gonna spend anals)https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/484613-novelai-disable-backward this disables the back button so that you don't accidentally try to leave the page without saving shithttps://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/484679-novelai-execution-audio-notifier audio notifier for successful/failed gens in case you have like 50k tabshttps://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/484946-tag-shuffler technically a tag shuffler but has quick save/load prompt buttons to quickly test out prompts if you're too lazy to open the notepad
>>8087104Fuck! How did I miss that...
>>8087104Here, without merginghttps://files.catbox.moe/pgvhcn.jpgAlso some more Sugu
>>8087110https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-apiUse this and don't even use the web page. Using this introduces so much QoL that I don't even know how people can use NAI's site.Just set up a dedicated A111 instance for it.
>>8086827Ron is a lucky guy
>>8087119ty anon! i cannot seem to find the attention editing thing you talked about though>>8087124can this do batch gens without using anlas? that might make me swap over, even if it takes time, setting up a que of prompts and letting it gen would be really nice
>>8087128>can this do batch gens without using anlas? that might make me swap over, even if it takes time, setting up a que of prompts and letting it gen would be really niceYes, as long as you are on Opus and not going beyond the unlimited settings for Opus are. You just queue them up using something like the Agent Scheduler extension or Dynamic prompts with a wildcard file.The nice thing is that you can also give it an adetailer pass using V3 as well and 1024x1024 is a free generation for Opus.
>>8087122Are you using a style LORA to get this flat anime shading? If so can you link it, I'd like to try it myself.
>>8087128https://gist.github.com/catboxanon/9c3003f19bfb3b306d3e47bdd6b68ca7/raw/hdg-nai-a1111-prompt.user.jsThis has a "generate forever" and wildcards supportIf you want you CAN use the webui extension (make sure to set it up right like in picrel and make sure you have the stealthpnginfo extension https://github.com/neggles/sd-webui-stealth-pnginfo )Set it up like picrel once you have it. To get your token go to the main page novelai.net/stories, click the gear > account > get persistent token and paste it in the box in the nai-api extension's settings pageTo import shit correctly (the webui is bugged) just drag and drop a NAI image inside the prompt box (don't use the pnginfo tab, it's bugged), you'll see the entire prompt - click the button with an arrow that points to the bottom left (it's right under the generate button) and all the NAI settings will get copied to the webui (this also copies the seed so make sure to randomize it)After that you're good to go, if you want to make sure everything is 1:1 just import an image after applying the settings in picrel, generate it and compare it with the original, if it's 1:1 you're goodYou can also use adetailer if you want (also change the timeout from 120s in the settings if you want)Frankly I don't think the site is that bad but if you're used to the local extensions and workflows more power to you.
>>8087136>>8087128also I forgot, to gen in batches you need to change the batch count, not batch size. If you collapse the NAI settings thing in the t2i/i2i tabs there's a button to force Opus limits so that you don't spend anals no matter what(also if your images come out too saturated change the cfg rescale setting to 0.5/0.75 depending on your artists)
>>8087133I think this must be coming from Suguha lora, you can try this onehttps://civitai.com/models/439702/sword-art-online-anime-style-lora-ponySugu lora: https://civitai.com/models/416000/suguha
>>8083257i sneed this still
>>8087133Also"anime, anime_screenshot, anime_screencap"Pretty good results with that SAO lora
>>8087140Thanks man
>>8087164that's local or nai?
Vampire hunting is a long, hard job.
>>8086630is this a raw gen too? that x-ray came out really nice... pure gacha?
>>8087175Raw gen with this lorahttps://civitai.com/models/439499/shaped-uterusYou inpaint with it on non-xray pic, but most of the time it works just with taw gen
>>8087167local sadlyhttps://files.catbox.moe/kw2oun.png
>>8087189Does she have Musk's brain microchip with blue LED installed in the back of her head?
>>8087189it does look really decent thanks for the box
>>8087195that's confidential
This vampire looks very dangerous and we must deal with it.
>>8087201thanks anon, mostly used the loras that miqo anon used, but with DPM++ 3M SDE + Align Your Steps Scheduler. Also another checkpoint, but it werks.Have been liking AYS a lot over Karras.
>>8087207Nice panties
>>8087209are you on auto1111?
also requesting scheduler changing for forge >>8083257
>>8087218Forge but testing A1111 alongside it, it gets the same result, kinda (like 99% of the same image)
>>8087225is there a way to get align steps on forge?
>>8087226There's this https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/pull/726But also>>8087224>>8087150https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commits/dora_dev_schedulers/Have fun
When having sex with maids, it's polite to make sure you don't take too long or else it might interfere with their duties.
>>8086798I use Eagle. I've talked a bit about it before if you search the archives. Picrel is stuff I've saved from here and other places, although I haven't been saving a lot lately.I have custom scripts that auto tag stuff and write gen parameters to notes. I like it because I can manage everything related to SD in one place. Thanks for the szurubooru suggestion, I've wanted a self-hosted solution to browse my library when I'm not home/at my computer and this might work, maybe.
>>8087229>dora_dev_schedulersthanks, time to figure out how to apply these commits to main forge using git...
>>8087234Not sure if you can point from one user to another, I just edited manually the files locally (yeah it took time)Also you can download the zip and replace the files i guess, but it would break some git things
>>8087232>I have custom scripts that auto tag stuff and write gen parameters to notesAnything you mind sharing? I don't have Eagle but it's been something I have considered outside of AI even.
>>8087209I knew those colors looked familiar. How are you liking it?
>>8087237it seems you can just dogit pull https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge.git dora_dev_schedulersbetter to make a new branch before and do this in that branch
>>8087244Pretty good, and with rasRealAnimeScreencap_v10 you can use<lora:flooxyfloox:0.4> <lora:PijaMix_v1:0.6>, anime screencap and it looks more interesting. DPM++ 3M SDE with Adeitaler and AYS for sure do some nice eyes imo.>>8087248You can pull like that from another user? TIL. I was thinking about doing a git clone on another folder but this may work
>>8087239My scripts are very specifically made to work with Eagle so I doubt they would be much help. What exactly are you trying to do? If tagging: for SD stuff you can just extract tags from the prompt. For other stuff/additional passes on SD images you can do what >>8086810 does and just use WD14, which is actually what I use too for auto-tagging.
>>8087255Oh I mean I don't have Eagle /yet/ but I do plan to eventually so I may as well save scripts for when I do. Sorry I could have worded it better.
>>8087258god i would just stick it through the pantyhose
>>8087209what the fuck is align your steps scheduler
>>8087136>>8087139hi ty for the extensive breakdown! i just got a111 installed but im a bit confused, i put in the API key, but do i need to change the model in the top left? or can i just hit gen? see pic rel
>>8087232>chloe and that artists mixgod, i miss those times so much
>>8087262also, do i need to disable all other preinstalled SD extensions and just leave the nai extension active?
>>8087256sorry if this is a turn-off but unironically join their discord: invite/N4yU33xqEWthey advertise their shit really poorly so no one realizes there's an entire group of users working on AI auto-tagging plugins (among other things) for their v4 beta. i'll probably figure out who you are and can help you from there after you join
>>8087261Scheduler developed by NVIDIAhttps://research.nvidia.com/labs/toronto-ai/AlignYourSteps/Basically it performs very well with few steps, but also it is adapted to do very well in more steps.Here is the original A1111 PR https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15751I'm just used to 25 steps and have gotten good results
>>8087136>>8087262>>8087264actually scratch that, i got it working, ty!!
>>8087267ays is good, but since it converges very quickly it's kinda hard to make some complex prompts with prompt scheduling
>>8087267From the pictures shown it seems really good, how does it perform for sex tho? If you have any comparison with and without that would be awesome
>>8087274berry cool, did you use wordly for the background?
>>8087277https://civitai.com/models/454079?modelVersionId=505554i used that lora
>>8087269Very nice, especially top left
>>8087271It should perform pretty good.Here is a cowgirl comparison. Used VP and CFG++ as well (custom random implementation) from that repo above, with DPM++ 3M SDE, DPM++ 2M and Euler A (I guess the latter 2 are the most popular samplers)25 base steps, 10 hi-res steps (Restart sampler), 896x1088x1.5catbox for hd, zoom a lot: https://files.catbox.moe/0wy07z.png>>8087270What is prompt scheduling? Like doing some steps with one prompt and then with another one?
>>8087296>prompt schedulingyeah, like [black hair:red hair:0.4]or [spread pussy:0.3]
wdV is going to come out of nowhere and mog everything. Screenshot this post
>>8087301see you in 16 months
>>8087281Looks nice ty
>>8087300do you need anything for that to work? never worked for me
1boy, 1girl, outdoors, camping, dirty, rain, sexual activity
>>8087307should work as is with ancestral samplers, they work bestanywayhttps://huggingface.co/ostris/vae-kl-f8-d16wonder if this vae will be better once he actually trains it for sdxl
Hello?
>>8087296funny how ++2M barely change no matter whatguess I need to test for myself>>8087310Im using euler A and this legit never worked, I tried with color and eyes being open or not and it was like it was ignoring the second tag
gyatdaym im prooompting
>>8087269>>8087272box pls
>>8087313fuck off to your hole >>>/aco/sdg
>>8087324https://files.catbox.moe/4jl0l7.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/phz24i.png
Thread needs more Jalter
>>8087301everyone who has tried to defeat GODstralite has failed>animagine>kohaku>arti>cascadeyours shall be no different. just another trophy on the wall
>>8087300I see, I haven't tried it with AYS yet.>>8087316Yeah, DPM++ 2M is pretty similar with any scheduler. I like DPM++ SDE and there each scheduler for sure it changes the output.
>>8087338Now try a gen on base pony
>>8087338Neither had previous baking experience unlike ponyfag did, they literally released everything they ever bakedAll this time you spent whining, the new WD team was baking prototypes and adjusting things little by little, making sure the model looks and feels good.
>>8087346base pony looks amazingyou really think other ai models are going to be able to compete with this?
>>8087349cascade could NEVER
>>8087338basedv6.9 hype
>>8087349sovl, they look like sketches i've drawn like 10 years ago
>>8087338all true, except that the one thing that astralite had in his favor (compute) is the also the one thing that the wd team hasmeanwhile jordach has spent 2 weeks cooking a single epoch on a 4090 (lol)
Requesting a few tweaks to this image, please.Mainly just that her hand on the left side should be a similar orientation to the right side with her wrist, hand and fingers in more of an upwards direction.And the guy's bicep and hips look a bit strange. I think the bicep's a bit too thick and his hips might need thickening or widening?Here's the original image so you can reference the hand:https://files.catbox.moe/btvs89.png
>>8087369ask in next thread
>>8087367regardless of compute, wd will fail. it's not a matter of facts or logic anymore, it has shifted into the realm of fate and destiny. all local models who oppose pony fail. this is a divine truth carved in stone
>>8087385they oppose nai though
>>8087385you're shitposting, but i do think it's pretty funny that a random horsefucker has been the uncontested king of local for over half a year at this point
>>8087392a lot of the finetuners were waiting for SD3 to release soon after the announcement and it got stalled and stalled and then sai served them absolute unusable shit
Imagine having competent devs.
>>8087393anyone who thought sd3 was going to be good was retarded. nothing they showed looked promising at all. it was obvious from their claims that it beat dall-e 3 that the model was shit and they were just gassing it up to try and get funding. though i cant blame finetuners for waiting, it's not like local is handed anything but scraps anyway.
>>8087281how was this animated? luma?
>>8087367In cascade finetune's defense, the progress in this 6th epoch on the 4090s had the biggest gains in diverse comprehension. I honestly never expected the 1B version to perform this well with flat anime style so once 1B is fully cooked I think it will be quite a capable model to use while I wait for 3.6B since I'm sick and tired of using pony at this point.Also excited for the wd's cosxl finetune. More model makers trying to make the most capable anime finetune is a good thing for me so I'm rooting for everyone who tries (except the censoring horsefucker, fuck him). If they have the compute to experiment I hope they try a cascade model at some point.
I don't understand, why didn't Ash ever blast off in Team Rocket himself?
>>8087424good morning b- sir
>>8087113>exclamation point bugging NAI promptsVery interesting, I'd noticed some difficulty with goblin slayer, princess connect, and kaguya characters even though they should have plenty of examples, and this brings it all together because they all have exclamation marks in their tags.
>>8087434Whoa, whoops, almost became a nogen. Can't have that.
>>8087394leaked your timezone in the last one
Requesting anything with this figure: https://myfigurecollection.net/item/520661
>>8087232how does Eagle compare with a free alternative?https://allusion-app.github.io/also wowie even my junk made it in (PSD/WEBM)
>>8087444Just for fun I ran a short prompt with this character in the AI, and while it seems like the model should know her (She had around 500 hits on Danbooru, which surprised me), it didn't. I realize the idea of getting hotgluing images for this figure you like must be exciting but you should understand that this shit is not magic. Hell 90% of getting a good image is just tard-wrangling it. And if it doesn't know the character, it definitely doesn't know this specific scale figure from 2017. Tell you what, get a dataset and I'll train you a character LORA and you can go nuts with a figure style LORA.
>>8087232>Picrel is stuff I've saved from here and other places>no wifegrim
>>8087301Unless it can do degenerate smut that belongs on /trash/ more than it does /h/, it will never be better than pony to me.The merge of Booru+E621 shit in one model is fuckin great.
How do people get such crispy sharp and clean gens? Is it Hi Res fix, or are you genning at higher base resolutions? Or just upscaling after?Any time I try Hi res fix, it's a blurry mess. I had a model that worked, but I forgot what it was when I had to start from scratch.
Someone ordered some Rouge?
>>8087472>Any time I try Hi res fix, it's a blurry messYou're probably using latent upscale at low denoise.
>>8087474I know latent sucks huge donkey balls, so I never use it, but I can't remember which one worked the best. I think it was an ESRGAN one that I had to download, but it's been so fucking long. I never paid attention to the name, I just renamed it "USE THIS ONE". Bold move I admit, but now I'm really regretting it.
>>8087476https://openmodeldb.info/models/4x-Nomos8kDAT 8 nomos is considered the best but is the slowestalso use this method for upscaling https://civitai.com/articles/4560/upscaling-images-using-multidiffusion
>>8087479>also use this method for upscalingFrom a quick look, it doesn't look like it works with batch gens. I'll definitely use it for singles though. ThanksSo do people not just gen batches at high res?
idk what xenoblade 3 girl to make a lora for next. i never expected to actually get to the point where i'd stop repeatedly training cat ones
>>8087473
>>8087425She looks way too young and small here. It's probably the style.
>This post was deleted. Reason: paywalled contentand there goes rule34.xxxit's been a good run
>>8087488A bit, and also because I left in the petite tag and didn't tag things like mature woman, curvy, large breasts, or whatever.
>>8087505Nice. Her face is also much closer now
so uhhhare there any photoshop chads who can do some basic color correction for me? I'd do it myself but I have no idea how
>>8087509I just use Gimp's color temperature tool, drag it downwards until the image is more white/blue than yellow/green
>>8087510doesn't that change the color of the whole image though?
>>8087511Yes. Isn't the whole image sepia-tinted because of SDXL?
>>8087473>>8087487Not to disparage your gens or anything but just a word of warning, the jannies that lurk this thread are pretty big sticklers for the /h/ rules and I think Rouge is too furry to be acceptable for /h/. You might catch a 3-day vacation, I've caught one for posting onee-shota.
>>8087515nah I just got some alien colored skin when I didn't want it because my promptfu is weak
>>8087517sounds awesome
>>8087509Color correction is one of the easiest to learn operations bro. Just look up a tutorial.
>>8087523almost as easy as getting uncensored gens
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>8087528you okay bro?
>>8087526It's actually so easy that I had to add "mosaic censoring" to get the proper effect. So if you're correct, then color correction must be a breeze.
Am I an idiot for trying to train a concept lora on multiple different artstyles?
>>8087532that sounds like the correct way, otherwise you'd be training the style along with it
>>8087532this is the only right way to train concept loras, and characters too, to regularize
>>8087516Fair enough. Was planning to post Amy Rose and Lopunny gens, but I'll post some human vidya characters instead. Thanks for the heads-up. For future reference, would I be wanting to post the gens I originally wanted to in the /d/ hdg thread instead?
>>8087535>Was planning to post Amy Rose and Lopunny gensYeah this would definitely not be allowed. /h/ is pretty vanilla, almost annoyingly so. The rules say no western art styles, no loli/shota, and nothing that would belong on /d/ or /y/ etc. To answer your question, furry stuff officially goes in /b/ as per Global Rule 3, but a quick browse shows that plenty of anthro stuff ends up in the /trash/ stable diffusion thread.
>>8087281damn, how was this made bro?
>>8087454who's wife? my screenshot only has like 1/5 of my saved images from /hdg/ so there's a decent chance i saved something with her at some point.>>8087450>even my junk made it in (PSD/WEBM)i like your work, it isn't junk>how does Eagle compare with a free alternative?i've tried nearly every free and paid alternative there is to eagle and there isn't really anything that compares unfortunately. most alternatives are missing one (or more) key features. for example, allusion only works with image files, and that's an immediate dealbreaker for me.also fyi allusion isn't maintained anymore. most of its contributors have now jumped ship and are actively working on onefolder (https://github.com/OneFolderApp/OneFolder)
>>8087539>who's wife?kagamin
>>8087534>>8087533The result seems to only be getting worse. Am I supposed to increase training time proportionally with the amount of different styles in the set?
What's the deal with denoise being recorded at like 0.7 on a lot of the catboxed gens I find here (excluding hiresfix gens). Are that many people using i2i or am I missing something
>>8087547Why don't you single out a few of those catboxes and ask directly? Could be latent upscale that only uses the base gen to set up the composition, could be upscale guided by tile or anytest controlnet, could be img2img from a stolen pic...
>>8087517Put "equestria girls" in the negative prompt.
>>8087540nothing, sorry anon
>>8087113Also pubic tattoo is womb tattoo on NAI.
>>8087537>anthro stuff ends up in the /trash/Oh, okay. I'll go hang out in the trash and get super stinky a bit later.
>>8087556its okay
>>8087549I've noticed it for quite some time but from yesterdays thread there was:https://files.catbox.moe/fzmqiz.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/onetof.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/s4qwrn.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/zk5t8v.pnghonestly I think it just implies that it went through i2i in some way or another. It's just something I've noticed for a while now and was curious.
>>8087566Isn't that the denoise value for adetailer?
>>8087222very nice
>>8087232>my wives made it inSend me that pic, I don't feel like digging through my gens
>>8087568ADetailer denoising strength is it's own parameter. I was just wondering what so many workflows were doing in i2i but it's probably just inpainting.
what do you people use to train ponyxl loras? everything i find is either defunct or not working.
>>8087574Are you asking for the tool or specific training settings? I use this https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
>>8087569very nice samefag
>>8087571>https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7757488/#7758081
>>8087600Thanks.
>>8087558Last one of Samus, then imma move on.
different Samus
Can this save sdxl?https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1dtwqoj/ostris_cooking_waiting_for_sd15_sdxl_and_pixart/
>>8087616I've no idea what to do with thishttps://huggingface.co/ostris/vae-kl-f8-d16>If you don't know, you probably don't need this.OkayWhat is it supposed to do?
>>8087616it would need full model retrainsbut could be huge in case we won't get any other usable model in years lol
>>8087617It's an alternative 16channel vae for sd3. If we get an adapter for sdxl it could lead to better finetunes in the future
>>8087617>>8087619? wouldn't the dude just need train the actual vae for sdxl and it could be used as is with any sdxl model?
>>8087623no
>>8087622>Note: Not SD3 compatable>This VAE is not SD3 compatable as it is trained from scratch and has an entirely different latent space.
>>8087622Wouldn't you still be bottlenecked by the model's latent space channels during inferencing?
>>8087301Unironically it will be much sooner than you think, anons are in for a pleasant surprise. We're talking weeks, not months.
>>8087642just 10 business let's trust them
>>8087642Nah, I'll cascade
*days
*30 seconds
>>8087642Hurry up and show us the porn
>>80876492 WEEKS
>Who's the little whore with a dick inside her asshole?>You better learn her name because it's,>Ashley!
>>8087650Are weekends included in that? what about overtime?
>>8087649Here you go >>>/b/ ;)
>>8087652Let me ask my mother
>>8087651ashleybox please?
>>8087663https://catbox.moe/c/qejypa
One of my JP friends found my lora on civitai and he's filling the page with his JP meta prompts. Unexpected mania of BBW but glad to see him enjoying it nonetheless.
>>8087684can you share the link?
>>8087232Got the metadata for the makima and lumine one?
>>8087693the makima blow? nai3 unfortunatelyinpainted but still nai3https://files.catbox.moe/3wjleg.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/f3fe62.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/pyqcui.png
>>8087045Anon, please teach me your ways...Also, is there no 12 (Real XXIII) lora for pony? Can't find one anywhere.
>>8087720Shit, well thanks anyways
Any advancements lately, anons?
>>8087766yes
>>8087766Just waiting for 3.6b cascade and/or wdv to save local
>>8087769for waifu tunespdxl v6.9wdvneta v2for foundational modelssimoryu's lavenderflowhunyuanpixart(two more years)cascade does not qualify, it's shiiiiiiitthey're obsessed with competing with pony to the point of delusionthey're not interested in a waifu tune. in the best case scenario they make a furry tune
Expression cutaway is honestly a pretty cool tag, and I had to go through E621 tags to find it. The closest equivalent danbooru tagging had was just multiple views, but that would give you too many panels in most cases. Expression cutaway is still some what RNG but at least I can get more or less what I was aiming for.
>>8086798>>8087232>my gens from 6+ months agoI didn't think anons even gave a shit about the stuff posted here. It's a shame i'm always battling storage space no matter how many terabytes i get, can't do the same.
>>8087753>Anon, please teach me your ways...autism
>>8087787Nope, that's passion.May I ask which loras you used to get that style, now that I've seen you inpainted a lot?
>>8087788base gen here: https://files.catbox.moe/o787gp.pngseveral tagged artists and loras were wildcarded, the rest i use as the backbone so the style doesn't look like shituhh im not sure if this actually helps a lot though, i was genning in batches of 2 and im pretty sure this pic got lora style bleed from me wildcarding style loras, it clearly has reagon long in it despite that style not being in the prompt
>>8087753The style works on base pony, it just makes really weird faces
>>8087791Thanks, anon. You made a really cool pic, I hope you continue to have fun.
>>8087771>cascade bad>he hasn't seen the performance of the latest partial epochssure bro it's the only bad finetune on this list, keep hating. meanwhile i like and support every effort of getting us out of this ponyslopsepia dogshit of a model, our best bets are wdv and cascade>pdxl lol lmao even, astracuckie hasn't even started to caption xer dataset, at this point wd team will deliver a lot faster than xer
>>8087787Holy fucking shit that's a lot of rerollsI hope you have a 3090 cuz otherwise this just took at least 2 and half hours
>>8087771>they're obsessed with competing with pony to the point of delusionit's almost a little sad at this point
>>8087814wdV should unironically be done within a couple weeks if you keep up with their discord. They finally have access to the compute (a literal h100 cluster) and have been pumping out test models off cooldown with a MASSIVE dataset. There's also Cascade, which will take longer but they'll both be done before Astralite releases another model kek
>>8087814>he hasn't seen the performance of the latest partial epochsi have and they still look a billion times worse than EF+HLLfuck off back to jordach's trooncord with the rest of the delusional cascade shills
>>8087820Just wait for 20 epochs of 3.6b anon, you will see!
>>8087787some ideas to make life easier:low(er) res on gen (aiming for 1024 max any one side), this makes inpaint easier.smaller inpaint areas, with sketch to guide lower denoise (0.4-0.5)smaller inpaint area again (ie: not opposite sides of image, or adjust res to fit wide/tall, like 1536x768), this provides more detail to a smaller area, sharper resultupscale at the end, optionally refining with low denoise if you really must.
>>8087819are they gonna have score tags or how do they make the base gens not look like shit
>>8087820or what? you gonna start wiping thread with melanin again?
if cascade is good I'll go shill the model myselfI have no particular tribal association with one trainer or whatever, I will whore out for any good waifu tune.but it's not good, it has never been goodpromising was ages ago, when they were like hey here's epoch 2.we're now squarely in cope territory, the results aren't improving much at all, they're just frying more and more as the guy talks about more and more obscure shit that doesn't matter at all.
>>8087827i'm not surprised that you're delusional enough to think that there's only one person with doubts about cascade in the whole thread
>>8087828>the results aren't improving much at allgo fuck yourself astratroon
>>8087814nta but cascade as it stands now is just a dead end. he keeps banging his head against the wall with this 1b shit and every epoch he embarrassingly goes "hot DAMN this one cooked hard! pony/wd/nai btfo already!"man i wish jordach wasnt retarded. he seems to realize everything that needs to be done regarding local but is just incapable of seeing his own flaws and instead views himself as the promised savior. which might be understandable if he was ever proven right, but shitbake after shitbake and cascade still can't even do basic 1girls properly compared to even basic 1epochs like kohaku.>>8087825he already rented compute and trained for 7 epochs here and the coherency is still far less than XL models trained for a single epoch. he needs to figure out what the fuck is wrong but that will never happen because, like mentioned months ago, he's too stubborn to realize the whole thing looks fucking fried
>>8087826Who cares about base gens when all artist tags are included kekBut they are doing something for quality, similar to what NAI did im pretty sureCan always ask in the discord, they're open about everything.
>>80878331b is not supposed to deliver superior resultsit was obvious from the beginninghis pdxl "obsession" is just ironic shitposting
>>8087828>he didn't compare e5 with most recent partial e6e5 was a huge crap, even jordach said itmost recent partials are coming out okay-ish but the important thing is that i don't see as much meltiness as beforealso, he said yesterday that the model is about 50% done so expect e11 or 12 to be the end of the bake
>>8087837>his pdxl "obsession" is just ironic shitpostingnope, jordach is delusional enough to think that the 1B model will kill pony
>>8087838Isn't he also saving money for training the 3.6b model, which is why it's taking so long to finish the 1b/TE?
>>8087838https://files.catbox.moe/kw0k2d.jpgif that looks good to you, sd1.5 is probably super exciting.
>>8087846I could have hallucinated it, but I think I saw him saying that there's no rush with 3.6b, might as well do it on 2x4090 while saving money from donos towards buying their own compute. Which would mean we won't see shit until 2025.
>>8087849wdV it is than
>>8087849
>>8087848https://files.catbox.moe/eiuy0n.jpg>>>/e/2877217
>>8087852Yep that one. He might just be retarded..... that or he really believe 1b is good enough (so still retarded).
>>8087853good morning b- sir
>>8087852Astralite won
>>8087848yeah it looks good for half a bake, i'd like to see what the 11th epoch of ponyv6 looked like, taking into count it took about 21 epochs. maybe if you use more braincells and stop judging models like this: >model usable right now? no = complete dogshit and will always be like this no matter what /// yes = good, excellent, perfectthen you could be a little happier, but i doubt it coming from someone like you.
>>8087837then what's the point? originally it was supposed to be 5 epochs on 1b for poorfags, and 5 on 3b for the actual good one. now it's just endless doubling-down on the 1b. when he was originally shilling cascade he would go on and on about how it 'trains like fucking lightning' and the architecture requires very few epochs to get good. meanwhile what we're seeing is the complete opposite. it's taking forever to get competent while other models produce coherency in 1-3 epochs.
>>8087855take your meds, or better yet fuck off to /soc/ or something
>>8087823believe me i make good use of masked-only inpaintingmy main trick is running the penultimate image through img2img or a big masked only inpaint at 0.35-0.4 denoise 3-5 times and taking those gens, layering them underneath the earlier image and using a soft eraser brush to get the best parts of each iteration with none of the shit parts
>>8087853>if that looks good to you, sd1.5 is probably super exciting.this isn't the flex you think it is anon>>8087859hope is goodcope is bad
>>8087859This is why bakers should never release anything to the public until it's well cooked.
noise offset during training loras? the pyramid setting?
>>8087684
>>8087865nah that's the wrong takeaway from thisthe problem isn't that the early epochs don't look good instantly but that jordach keeps insisting that they look better than nai3 and pdxl while refusing to look at their problems objectively (until he finally admits 2 weeks later that he was wrong and that those epochs were indeed garbage)
>>8087853>make it so the model doesn't need to reproduce outfits by overriding outfits>mostly doesn't even try to include wings on remilia and cirno, and it should have better skipped those on flandreclever girl
>>8087866it's deprecated now
>>8087874well it's on the lora training koyas scripts, just ignore it?
>>8087823>>8087863actually lemme show resultsimage before i began mashing together the img2img variants: https://files.catbox.moe/1nnka6.pngafter (and color/contrast correction): https://files.catbox.moe/e3phet.pngpony makes brown girls too light so i fucking magic wanded all of her skin, copied it as a new layer to make it darker and smoothed off the rough edges
>>8087871yeah exactly, I want to root for the underdogI want to stop using animagine but this isn't even competitive with 1.5 nevermind xlthere's still this blind belief that cascade is secretly good yet 0 people have demonstrated itquit taking the multistage retard pill and just move to xl
>>8087875unless you have that one pr then it's fine to use it at the lowest setting imo
>>8087876no lies toldnice one
Stop talking about Cascade and post fat asses
guys if you like ponyv6 so much, why don't you use base pony for your gens instead? oh wait look >>8087349 it looks so sep- uh um well it looks shi- err it doesn't looks brown at all it just looks ah um well it just uses brown shades! that's all!HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>8087881Provide catbox so I can get metadata to work with and make some, if you mind
>>8087883https://github.com/ashen-sensored/sd_webui_stealth_pnginfo
>>8087884Oh alright
>>8087873Not him but you have to include wings in tags which isn't done in this image obviously. I prompted "cirno, ice wings" on 25.e5 and it worked alright (well there were 2 to 4 wings on each side but sometimes you would get 3 not mangled).
>>8087881>possummachine_style:1lol
>>8087881Sure.
>>8087887? I thought it was obvious without looking at metadata.
>>8087886Why wouldn't the model pull the wings in just from the character tag? That's weird.
>>8087871he wants to say 'i fucking told you so!' so bad where he'll continue doing the wrong thing just to try and prove himself to the other furfags. if astralite discovered the secret cascade training guide, jordach would do the complete opposite of what it says out of spite
>>8087889I can kinda see that in the eyes now but seeing a booty like that with this style is funneh
>>8087892That is why AI is based
Hello :3
>>8087881https://files.catbox.moe/brbhx9.png
>>8087900dennou coil?rare
reminder
>>8087903Jesus I forgot how disgusting base pony really is
>>8087905it's more flexible thoughautism completely neuters some stylesbut yeah out of the box default pony is absolutely disgusting
>>8087037No one knows ore cares what those are you blart-ass boomer
>>8087903HAHAHAHHAHAHA IT LOOKS EVEN BLURRIER THAN NAIV3 HAHHAHA MY SIDES
reminder of what? everybody knows that base pony is aesthetically disgusting
>>8087903Reweik is the goat, only the v1.1 version tho
>>8087909There is literally one person here who spams that criticism, just ignore it. Obviously pony looks worse.
>>8087916GOOD MORNING SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>8087917Is it morning for you in India?
>>8087914>ReweikLightning/Hyper variant when?
freetard woke up?
>>8087903yeah sorry not sorry but even the e1 of cascade looks better than this shit. hell even heart of apple, kohaku-xl, artiwaifu, animagine mogs base ponyv6. props to the autismmix anon that truly did the impossible. he's the real carry here.
>>8087430b- was banned for bitching about the spam loving jannys, not her.
>>8087901Sadly.
>>8087927Reminder that the majority of users on sites like Civit which offer generation as a service are using BASE PONY and flooding the respective sites/the internet as a whole with pony slop. Try going to rule34 or another site and looking at the amount of slop that's instantly recognizable as base pony, it's genuinely unholy.
>>8087927hopefully you're trolling and not actually retarded enough to think that prompts without quality or style tags prove anything
>>8087928I was, but I'm not b-
>>8087932>a majority of users are wrongstats don't lie anon, people use what works.
>>8087936No, people use what's easy and they generate pure unfiltered dogshit and spread it everywhere
>>8087937all models function the sameyou download it, copy someone else's prompt and produce cute waifuwelcome back to cope
>>8087939>real pajeet mindsetwhat the fuck bros? are they really here?
>>8087939There's a reason none of the popular accounts posting AI on pixiv/twitter use pony. It's because it looks like shit.
>>8087936Go to civit and sort images by new
>>8087934I invite you to gen a good pic (at least at the level of Autismmix) without using a single LoRA or embed. Go on.
>>8087943one lolifag was posting actually nice-looking pics with base pony and no loras
>>8087943DONT REDEEM
>>8087942https://civitai.com/images/127497why is this piece of shit the top rated image of civit
>>8087941they all use nai, which 100% mogs localnobody's in there using animagine if that's what you're implying.>>8087942people having bad outputs is exclusive from "people pick pony because it's the best local"the best local can still be bad.
>>8087947Definitely not what I was implying.
>>8087947that was true few months ago but now people are are kinda getting good styles. plenty of pretty believable faux-nai styles as well where you might get actually confused which model was used. but yeah first months of pony/autism it looked awful.
>>8087943i'm not on my pc so you'll have to take this civitai gen for now
>>8087954HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>8087952That's just not really true
>>8087941define popular
>>8087960The most followers, getting the most likes/views etc. What else would I mean?
>>8087962sir
>>8087932WD dev is a retard.No idea why people think he could deliver anything worthwhile. WD1.4
>>8087963Fuck you
>>8087964haru isn't neggles
>>8087964neggles is a tranny but not a retard
>didn't see the new immiscible noise fix before training a lora with itit's over
>>8087968the fix helps
>>8087967>tranny>not a retardpick one if neggles is legit a troon it's over, I have no hope
>>8087969yeah, i did some 1:1 comparisons on base pony without score tags and could see a difference in detail. it's just kind of annoying
https://github.com/neggles/neurosisSo has anyone tried setting up WDV's trainer? Apparently it's written from scratch. Looks like bitsandbytes should work, so 8bit optimizers should be available. Bucketing is also there.
>>8087970>if neggles is legit a troonhe is but him being mentally ill doesn't mean he's retarded and incompetent
>>8087970astra is a troon horsefucker, jordach is a furry and linaqruf is indonesian so it's not like we have good options for local bakers
Neggles is the only competent weeb trainer left for local that hasn't been hired by Anlatan or turned into a moralfag. I don't give a fuck if they are a tranny, this is literally our only hope. There is nothing else, no one will be able to get the compute they have access to. We must form a prayer circle and shout "2 more weeks" to the heavens.
>>8087972Mixed BF16 also should be there. It's probably possible to run this on 24GB GPU with BS 1 and some accumulations.
>>8087943>nooooooooooo>using lora's is ILLEGAL!>I will continue to shill my shitmix that is literally just the model with lora's tossed on top but YOU are NOT ALLOWED to use lora's!>actually using lora's is EVIL!go jump off a bridge already you arbitrarian retard.
What's wdv base model? Or are they trying multiple? And how could sai manage not to improve on their previous models with sd3?
>>8087994cosxl with modified sigma schedule
>>8087994cosxl
>>8087825>>8087462lol
so anyway, I started blasting
>>8087999also they probably swapped cosxl text encoder for the one used in sdxl but i'm not sure about that
>>8087881How about a cute ass?
We need a model that is ruled by strength, not by committee
Unstable diffusion is cooking something BIG. You'll see soon enough.
>>8088056Wasn't that some failed kickstarter for general porn?
wtf i love jordach now
Is CN anytest marger still the most recent model for referencing pictures?
I've been hibernating with Autism since like Feb, only took brief glances for the hash mining table, last tome I came here I gathered SD3 is completely DOA and it just so happens to be the new thing a lot of local devs hinges on. So now that shit crash with no survivors what's next? Are people stuck with minmaxing Pony/Autism and trying out schizo techniques or is there something I can look forward to?
>>8088078hibernate for 6 more months
>>8088075holy based furryman
>>8088075lol
>>8088052judging from the reddit posts its gonna be stability all over again except with less money and mainly trained on ai outputs
>>8087538>>8087399luma yes, made a loop versionthey clearly are doing layering and background reconstruction, they have previous papers on img to 3d pic. it's probably mixing all that
>AI ops on /a/ without people screeching over aislopdamn times change
>>8088112i dunno what you mean, i went there and now im just glad, ai exist
>>8088052>open model initiativeif they do one thing right it could be open sourcing their techniques and toolsthe model is important, sure, but how they get there is far more important to me.
>>8088123>i dunno what you mean>>>/a/268420403I remember when AI op pics were used on /a/ during 1.5 times literally every third post would be someone seething about aislop and how the op is a pathetic pajeet scammer
>>8088123To be fair it's way better than my rachnera attempt
>>8088130it's nai
so what bucket min resolution should I use
>>8088123
>>8088112its harder to screech over aislop when you're looking at NAI or worked out pony output
>>8088135>>8088138yeah I think we can recognize nai/pony outputs from the thumbnail due to exposure to all this but for people who don't look at ai pics every day for the last year good gens are not nearly as obvious as they used to be during aomslop era
>>8088143I've probably looked through hundred of thousands AI pics and I still can't tell with some well done NAI outputs that they aren't hand drawn. Practically everything local is easily recognizable though.
>>8088130still not sure what u mean, its probably because they don't know it's ai, i posted, good ai stuff, in fan communities, they were all, its good and marvelous, and the moment one guys get it's ai. they turn into the Aistrash mode kek.
>>8088143they just don't even consider it's ai, i've been tricked myself plenty times just because the pic didn't look like an abomination from the first glance
>>8088143hell, haven't recognized this >>>/a/268420403 as AI, now im thinking about moving away from autismmix to either reweik or base pony for better styling>>8088151there's some SD1.5 autist genning SFW madoka girls on pixiv and if he hadn't said he used AI i wouldn't know, you just need to put alot more work into local unlike NAI
>>8088151If you use some weird style lora on local you can pass it off>>8088154I could instantly tell its AI myself but im more surprised its not NAI
>>8088151what a long sentence to say, skill issue
>>8088154you can tell by slight frying in the eyes. if the proompter bothered to inpaint that you could probably still get suspicious due to the resolution.and honestly while I like the style, the nai matte is visible on most of the pics if you've seen enough
>>8088156>I could instantly tell its AI myself but im more surprised its not NAIIt has NAI res though
>>8088159Yeah on second thought its obviously NAI I was just confused that it know newer character since im not familiar with the model
>>8088157I agree, but only if you admit that everyone in this thread including you has skill issue, because I haven't been fooled with local once:)
>>8088160its either gets retrained constantly to include more FOTS characters (Frieren for example wasn't in initial NAI release) or NAI is literally several TBs of loras that get triggered by keywords in prompt
>>8088161"i have a god complex"
>>8088162Ok I didnt know they actually updated the model, they must be raking crazy money
>>8088160csm part 2 had been releasing for more than a year when nai3 cutoff their dataset>>8088162frieren had like 3 years of data by that pointi've even seen nai3 perform well with characters that came out in august 2023
>>8088161I've never not immediately recognized a NAI gen
>>8088161I think one of the lolifags legit did good-looking pics
>>8088169Hmmm, okay what's a single tell here: https://archiveofsins.com/data/h/image/1714/73/1714736046923073.jpg
>>8088172this is local
>>8088172this is aom2
>>8088172it's nai
>>8088172Is that a joke? Look at her shoulder. Either she has the lats of an Olympic swimmer or a severe case of scoliosis
>>8088172The inconsistent lines on the mat
>>8088166>I didnt know they actually updated the modeli don't know either but it wasn't been able to gen Frieren when show became popular, there was one NAI anon bruteforcing her yuri companion by prompting '1girl, hime cut, purple hair, purple eyes"
>>8088166they've never updated it>>8088183skill issue, legitimately
>>8088180Well she IS wearing a competition swimsuit!
test yourself: https://aibooru.online/posts?tags=has%3Ametadata&z=2i get about 90% correct. colors and poses are obvious tells
>>8088170That's just the skill of the average loli enjoyer. If you make cunny you better make it good.
>>8088180>>8088181I thought he was talking about local vs NAI. The most obvious AI bit is that her halo is wrong.
>>8088166They have not updated it.
>>8088161>One of the 4 pic is AI generatedshow me you expertise, oh /h/ master
>>8088190Fried pony wouldn't attempt to generate the texture of the yoga mat
>>8088192trick question, it's all 4
>>8088192>2nd>by WatashiNoGovno>Govnoits obvious
https://civitai.com/models/462775/all-characters-in-arknights>20,000 images trained on dual A100Why does a random chink have that kind of hardware
>>8088199Gacha whales are a different breed
>>8088192erase the signatures next time but yeah all 4 are aia better question would be which, if any, are using pony
>>8088199You know you can rent hardware remotely
>>8087348>and feels goodAI doesn't have feelings anon
>>8088201i forgot ai expert need to doxx, to spot ai pics
>>8088192Coffee cups are surprisingly hard to gen, but she's missing a finger, there's an extra scar on her right hand and way too many pouches hanging off her belt. The shading on that golden ball is also off and her right eye is about to split into two.Didn't even look at the others.
>>8088209i answered it correctly within 15 seconds, dumbass
>>8088204Wait are you saying the models look at something??
>>8088199Also it's 250 characters crammed into 220MB. Someone tell me again you need dim 128 for your special snowflake girl.
>>8088192Let me ask my mother
>try to make mating press with the girl jerking off>it on very rare occasions succeedswhy is this such a hard thing to make happen? ive tried 400 different loose and excessively specific prompt combinations now and none seem to be getting it
>>8088216My Jalter lora is bigger than the base model and there’s nothing you can do about it
>>8088224Even a real artists would struggle with that description
>>8088199>221mbwhy its either 256dim for 4 characters from obscure anime trained on fucking screencaps or 100+ charas from popular franchise on 32dim>>8088216that 2hu lora still can't produce tewi with black/brown hair instead of white, you don't need 128dim for single character but you want as much braincells as possible for multichar of this magnituder
>nai is sooooo good>please ignore the smear and blur
>>8088228it shouldnt be so hard to get, im basically looking for this. i got damn near everything EXCEPT the girl stroking the dick which should be the simplest thing to do and i really dont want to resort to manual editing to make it happenhttps://img3.gelbooru.com/images/34/09/3409c9a633e033f0a2114e0d297af001.jpeg
>>8088231controlnet it
>>8088231What tokens are you using? Stuff like hand job or masturbation might invite noise from the base model. Try penis grab instead
>>8088233adding controlnet has broken my setup several times because i have to use a fork for amd gpus and something about this doesnt play nice. controlnet isnt really a viable option until thats sorted out>>8088235>Try penis grab insteadthats what ive been using, to no avail. when it does work it often has the guy just stroking his shit while standing which isnt what im after either
>>8087535Don't be a faggot and listen to the fags. Post here, but through catbox. Nobody gives a fuck about the rules
yup freetard woke up
>>8088236very high iq behavior
>>8088237buy a real gpu poorcel, the time you waste on a solved problem in a real workflow isn't worth it
>>8088242some people are bullies get over it
>>8088243my hate for nvidia is stronger than my desire to get better results. not happening.
something's boiling
>>8088242im generating image/text porn in mid 20s and somehow i feel much better now after acknowledging that website's purpose
>>8088245the "gpu war" is over or never even began in the ai field, you get nvidea or don't bother. Do you think their stock has pumped to make the company bigger than microsoft for fun?
>>8088245Take the linux pill. The penguin cock isn't so bad
so what bucket min resolution should I use? am training a lora on pony, so I assume max is 2048, but min is 512? or should it be 768? idk
>>8088192top 2 are pony derivatives, third is NAI, fourth could kind of go either way.first is missing a finger and the belt is fucked multiple ways.second has a fucked up upper body and awkward nipples on top of really bad color mixing on darker colors. Also the shirt is weird as fuck when you actually look at it(has pleats and if you tried to imagine it without being pulled halfway down it just wouldn't sit properly).halo is a bit wonky in a way it wouldn't be if someone actually drew it on the third. label on the blood pack is also fucked and it's pretty obvious it was just dropped into place in post. Also weird random hair strand from the back of the bun that just shouldn't be there.Fourth the ribbon the tail is whonked to shit. She's missing a toe and the gem on the inner side is warped. Also the boob window does not actually look anything at all like it should and lighting on the left-side leg is weird. Also the right side shoulder has a continuity break between the hair, as does the ribbon attached to the ear.
>>8088251use max and min buckets based on biggest/smallest res pics in your dataset
>>8088249its not about gpu warring its about hating nvidia as a company due to my actual field of work. i just hate amd less and stick with them. its been a decade of being on amd and i wont change it unless intel by SOME miracle can convince me to adopt them over amd.i have 2 arc gpus already becuase again, work, but it has nothing to do with gpu warring or brand loyalty. its just a true hate toward nvidia and their products>>8088250i would but im getting effectively the same results speed wise with this windows setup. ROCm is fine, ZLUDA is windows only, DirectML is a joke. if ONNX and Olive were usable on Pony id be getting 4080-comparable results but as of right now it only works with SD1.5 and thats shitty
>>8088254this sometimes results in images all being in one bucket which you dont want
>>8088216ime dim has always correlated more closely with the level of detail that a lora can achieve and not as much how much you can jam into it. i've trained three styles in a dim 8 lora, but to get little single pixel white dots to pop up in the eyes in one of those styles i had to switch to training at dim 32
>>8088255I'm getting okayish results with some mating press lora from civit
>>8088251512 and 2048 are fine, you want to stick with SDXL's training resolutions and those should work out to be 1:1.
>>8088245based>>8088250giga based, switched to arch linux half a year ago and everything just works great, although i use nvidia>>8088255>ZLUDA is windows onlyhuh, no? it should work under linux as well
>>8088262can you link which specific one youre using here, and is it fucking up your style loras
>>8087864toddler tier mentalityi couldn't care less about any of your shitflingingthe guy provided a vomit inducing furry image just to be dishonest, i remembered seeing a recent anime one in /e/ and decided to share itbut i'll leave you to your tribalism and obsessing over which model is good or bad
>>8088266>huh, no? it should work under linux as wellas far as i know it is more work to get it usable under linux than using ROCm out the gate, and the results are comparable anyway unless i am mistaken, but when I tried it definitely wasnt having a good time with ZLUDA
>>8088250NTA but i'd go ballsdeep if there was an executable that would reboot Windows into Linux and wise-versa, avoiding gurb and other shit, or if i could access Linux installation from Windows Boot Loader
>>8088267https://civitai.com/models/411020/mating-face-pony This one. Don't know about style interference, the previews don't look too samey
>>8088274Why do the previews have a bunch of doggystyle and 1girl standing? Do people just leave it on at 0 strength?
>>8088278*they
>>8088274much appreciated, trying it out now
>>8088272you should burn windows to ashes as soon as you get to install linux, otherwise one day you'll just reboot to windows and never use linux again no matter how convenient dual booting is for you
>>8088291What are you running your gf on? people still using stheno?
>>8088291>i don't mind booting linux to do the same thing i do on windows but slightly betterlmao, that's exactly my thoughts before giving up several years ago (i used it mostly for web development)
>>8087232good shit, mind postin a 'box for the St Louis pic?
>>8088297Fimbulvetr-11B-v2, now there's Gemma and i was able to run Q6 on 32gb of RAM under Windows but wasn't satisfied with its speed, still needs testing in smut/RP area
>>8087914Do you mind boxing up that cat please?
WHERE IS WDV im tired of waiting for the next slopmachine just give it to me already!
>>8088330TWO WEEKS
>>8088327Old gen but sure>https://files.catbox.moe/sdn3t0.png
>>8088306i dont frequent the /h/ threads i dont know who that is
>>8086793Goated fate op
>>8087693>https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7691359/#7693252>https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7759189/#7761023they're both nai. i can reupload the makima .psd if >>8087720 doesn't mind (the original mediafire link is down)>>8087786thank you for posting.>>8088304>>8088337>https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7691359/#7693071that image was posted in december, not even a whole month into nai3 releasing. it predates all of this retarded arguing so ignore newfags who try to start shit constantly. that artist mix is probably what floox/truck kun/all those pixiv and patreon meme bbc artists used as a starting point
>>8088360why do you have so MANY luscious NAIv3 BBCs saved?
How is it possible that hands hasnt been solved yet?
>>8088376>arms_behind_backAre you retarded?
>>8088376Because hands take a ridiculously long time to learn and by that time everything else is fried
>>8088376use better lora
>>8088376Same problem with AI not understanding "holding 3 pencils" and drawing 5, 1 or 2 pencils most of the time. AI still can't get that type of stuff.
>>8088348beautiful
>>8087569thx
>>8088376at this point if you're having problems with hands it's either a severe artist issue or your gigantic skill issue
>>8088396or a burnt lora regardless of artist
Uuuu so local is dead? No new models? Sai is dead? Some dudes were saying 1 month, 4 months ago...
>>8088409I just can't seriously relate to all these>hurr, the local is dedwhen just less than 2 years ago anon was sitting like a fucking monkey for hours trying to get at least something that looks like human, forget about fingers, pussies and all that shit.It's really amazing how fast humans get used to something good.
>>8088396I like the ixy tag, but it turns hands into garbage.
>>8088414this 100%I'm still having fun with 1.5, pony, other sdxl models and naithere's just too much, doesn't help that I like a ton of characters and not just for hentai/sex eitherI'm just happy this tech exists and I'm enjoying it to the fullest atm, whenever something new and better comes along I'll be enjoying it too
>>8088421Same with KAB. Gives you a nice anime style but ruins the hands. Might have to make a BREAK prompt to try and focus the KAB on only the face and keep score_9/score_8/score_7 for the hands, unless Adetailer stops fucking up
>>8088262>>8088274after trying this for a while ive determined that this definitely doesnt make reasonably sized dicks and while it is getting the results i was looking for, this is a new problem that i will need to assess.thanks regardless. have a very melty image because i am prepping for a convention
It's such a shame this artist messes up the hands so hard. I like the style otherwise. Mixing in other artists barely helps.
>>8088426Try a shorter aspect ratio, it seems like that style starts the dick at the very top of the screen, so a taller image will result in longer dicks.
>>8088439i will try that. have a mistake that showed up along the way
>>8088330Realistically 2 months away probably
>My hero academia 427 preview
>>8088447me like
Is there a way to prompt hugging pussy lips like this, or is that purely artist dependent? Sort of like cleft of venus but for penetration.
bros, sometimes my a1111 gen is fast as hell, sometimes it takes like 2-3x as long. I have no idea why. I have ever app on my pc off except for one chrome tab. anyone ever experience something similar?
>>8088456Is that one chrome tab civitai?
>>8088456A1111 has shit memory management, that's why forge is still superior even with no updates
>>8088459no I just meant the tab for webui
>>8088449https://civitai.com/models/446981/lips-that-grip ?
>>8088456Do you use ADetailer or HiResFix at all? Those have been known to use a lot of RAM and result in slower generation.Also what are your dimensions?
guys, for adamw, what's a good learning rate for 32 dim/alpha?
>>8088478which loras are you using?
>>8088495it depends on your batch size. i do 0.00003/0.00006 at 3
>>8088137one box sir
>>8088123Thats NAI
>>8088506at 1 and 2, what would be good values? thx
>>8088512idk, why train at bs 1 or 2?
It is still possible to pay for NAI with Google Pay? I know it was possible before to buy gift keys, but i don't see option now and there is not much information about this. And yes i'm asking because i don't use debit card and i don't have access to my old paypal account and idk if they will ban my new one.
>>8088516uh cuz its what my vram can handle, training for a character
>>8088469>>8088449Also, combine with https://civitai.com/models/44276/concept-larger-insertion-more-girth-vaginal for ultimate grips
>>8088522>uh cuz its what my vram can handleare you training on an 8gb card?
>>808852612
>>8088527you have enough vram to train at batch size 5 or 6
>>808852712gb can handle batch4 gradient accumulation 4 with fp8
NTA but batch 4 is max batch for 12 GB VRAM right? And what does fp8 do exactly?
>>8088506you doing cosine?
>>8088516sometimes it's fine to use batch size 1 or 2 even if you could go higher because lower batch size makes the lora learn your dataset better (which could be a good or a bad thing depending on what you're using it for)
>>808853310gb can do batch size 4 if you enable fp8 and disable the in blocks. you might be able to get five if you do full bf16 training, i haven't tried that.if you're having vram issues at 12 with 4 then you're having bucket issues, that waste at least 1.6gb of vram, if not more. try adding or removing a few images from your dataset at a time and your vram consumption will plummet >>8088534loads the unused weights in the base model in fp8
>>8088525wanted to try out the combo, works pretty well. Dont know how much impact the grips lora has tho.
>>8088538i do cosine with restarts with one restart every 500 to 750 steps
More schedulers I guess (for forge) https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commits/dora_dev_schedulers/catbox for hd, zoom since image is huge::https://litter.catbox.moe/req5sh.png
>>8088469all the pictures looks like shit, its always a coinflip wether the pajeet on civitai sucks or the lora sucks>>8088449I was looking for the same but for the asshole
>>8088545bf16 for more batches? so its "worse" per say? an option to save vram
>>8088557i think that by default training runs at fp32, enabling full bf16 reduces the precision but should save vram. but i haven't really felt the need to do that since batch size 3 works well enough and i still have around 1.5gb of vram free on my 10gb card to do things like browse the internet
are tentacles /h/ or /d/
>>8088560/d/ sadly
>>8088551I legit cant tell the difference and if there is improvement or not
imo when training loras it's important to keep in mind that there's an issue with sd-scripts that creates a vram usage goldilocks zone. i don't know what actually creates the variation but it seems to have something to do with the specific number of images with specific aspect ratios loaded during training. just randomly resizing my training images so they go into different buckets, but keeping the same number of images and the same overall number of pixels loaded during training, can cause me to go from using 8.5gb of vram to maxing out my GPU at 10.
>>8088563how much content needs to be added before /u/ material is allowed on /h/
>>8088555Well, all you need to do is check the lora yourself, I usually don't care much about sample images, all I care is if the lora can get me the results I want or not. If it can, even with some additional fine tuning - it's good enough.If I had 4090 I would probably train myself, but on 3070Ti - no thank you.
>>8088571cum
>>8088571just add a dick in the corner and you're golden
>>80885733070ti is definitely enough to train loras, you're just lazy
>>8088575would justifying this with 1 girl asking for a dick as the other girl is annoyed that eating out isnt enough be a good reason>>8088574ok
>>8088577It is enough but it takes a lot of time. I don't want to wait for days just to get 1 character lora, and concepts take even more time.
>>8088578put some dude in the corner with his cock out. otherwise gen as normal
>>8087950enya's puffy asshole....
>>8088551how do i install these to my current forge?
>>8088568More options I guess, I like Euler A Karras/AYS, DPM++ 3M SDE AYS and DDPM Karras/AYS.AYS GITS seems to be interesting as well
>>8088551>even more minmaxxing fuckery i have to account for and experiment withi'm so tired bros
>>8088587Woah there, remember, real artists experimented with different paints and canvas materials for decades!
>>8088589would've been funnier if you said digital artists and pen pressure / drawing tablets
>>8088587I gave up. Unless someone shows something making a SIGNIFICANT difference I'm not adding it to my workflow. Otherwise I'll get caught in the infinite testing cycle again and never gen. The worst part is that under circumstances you can think the test is an improvement only to find out it's been crippling your outputs later, like adding schizo negs.
>>8088589they walk so we could runwe are waddling in shit right now but still
>>8088591Yeah same, im happy with my current setup, it get the jobs done and it work most of the time for what I want to do, I dont want to fiddle around for some minimal gain when the real bottleneck is the model anyways
>>8088590Unironically - mastering photoshop and other drawing software is also not an easy task.
Generating tons of slop to use as training data is very tedious.
>>8088595>slopi agree with what i see
>>8088584I'm not sure how you can point a repo from one user to other, or if it's possible?I git cloned into another folder and used the same venv as og forge/a1111
Where's the adetailer model for pussy, ass, and dick masking? Need to automate inpainting of those regions.
is there any way to mitigate style bleed on lora training? been training on anime screencaps for a character with no fanarts, it gets the character okayish on the first epochs, but the clothing details only come on the later epochs, which also make the screencap style bleed
>>8088618train a lora on screencaps of that anime that the character isn't in. then merge the style lora you trained with the base model, then train your character lora
>>8088611
>>8088619this can't be true
>>8088607how about you inpaint some bitches
>>8088414and 2 years ago local was so far ahead of everything else. since then:>a full year of relying on the NAI leak>almost an entire year of SDXL being the leading local image model>NAI 3 mogging local for almost a year now>consumer GPUs remaining completely stagnant while enterprise gets bigger and further out of reach>every local base model sabotaging themselves over 'safety'>coomer finetunes (easyfluff, pony) looking for more and more ways to censor the model>incompetent chink models autotagged on broken english and trained on ai outputsmeanwhile:>nai making their own base model>dalle remains practically secret technology>audio and video ai decades ahead of anything local hasit comes down to money. nobody in local has money to train anything more than a shitty finetune on a StabilityAI model. and the very best of local get poached by those with money. local has been, and always will be, reliant on handouts. there wouldn't even be a local image scene if it wasnt for runway/sai's 1.5 (millions of dollars in funding), and same for text models with meta's llama (billions of dollars in funding). the circumstances required to change this are highly unlikely to ever align. i wish this wasn't true, but it's simply the nature of things as they are
>>8088623also friendly reminder that v1 leakedpeople call it the leak without even understanding what it meanshint: it wasn't supposed to happen
>>8088587Re-factored the branches so it's easier to work with them.> https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commits/dev_schedulers -> branch with just new schedulers (so no DoRA PR, no VP/CFG++/AYS Variants), this can be made as PR for forge directly.> https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commits/dora_dev_schedulers -> branch with just new schedulers and DoRA (so no VP/CFG++/AYS Variants)> https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commits/dev_schedulers_test -> branch with new schedulers, DoRA and test/WIP schedulers.AYS and Simple schedulers have a lot of potential. Have to check how to improve CFG++ and get better sigmas for custom AYS implementations.
>>8088620
>>8088621if you say so
here's what we must do1: break into nai2: steal v33: travel back in time hours before the v1 leak4: give them v35: v3 will leak instead of v16: ???7: profit
>>8088639you can change 1 to letting some retard leak it accidentally
>>8088627lets say i have fresh forge installation using the one click package on the main branchhow do i apply https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commits/dev_schedulers_test for example. seems like just copy and pasting over the files would just not work. such is being retarded
>>8088644follow this>>8087248
>>8088627there might be an extra ] on line 242 in sd_schedulers.py in modules folder
>>8088627> https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commits/dev_schedulers_test -> branch with new schedulers, DoRA and test/WIP schedulers.Can u add the soft inpainting fix to this pr?
>>8088627Catbox of picrel pls
>>8088650Thanks, fixed.>>8088651Sure, added here https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commit/6cfc8947e573e17d4c64481330e4f654172a3c1f. I guess the test branch will have more things.>>8088653https://files.catbox.moe/gkmsxr.png
Quick question: can you make straight shota stories in novelai, or does that kind of content lead to a ban?
>>8088360>psdyeah upload it if you wantI could probably dig out more docs if you're a data enjoyer
>>8088655you can make anything
>>8088658Thanks
>>8088654Thanks for the pr lad, the day Forge will truly die is the day when all the memory usage improvements and optimizations gets fully added to A1111, which is likely to be never.
>>8088655you can do anything, it's just a 13b model but it's uncensored and they don't care what you do with it
>>8088657https://files.catbox.moe/wnd8cd.png
can I train a lycoris while blocking some weights? don't see that option on the GUI
>>8088655Straight to jail
>>8088647>>8087248sorry guys I may be retarded, ELi5 how do I update my forge to this version >>8088654
how the hell do you add Align Your Steps Scheduler to forgeui
>>8088623memes aside, wdV is our last hope.>Only competent trainer left who hasn't been absorbed by Anlatan/bought out.>Completely self motivated, not an ethics tard>Has access to NAI levels of compute through their job>Has a proven track record, not related to the original WD team>Expects the model to be fully baked within a month, not a moralfag.If that fails local really is fucked, we'll see in a few weeks because neggles is rapid firing shit right now. Cascade is a meme, the next pony version is at least six months away because Astralite is a retarded jeet. There's nothing else unless a random chink model falls from the heavens.
>>8088669
Is there an overly indepth guide/faq on inpainting? One that includes a workflow preferbly, I never feel happy with my results when inpainting and it doesn't feel worthwhile when I can set things up to generate images while I fuck off elsewhere.
>>8088678>>Has a proven track record, not related to the original WD teamWhat is it then?
>>8088685>milk bottles WITH milk that floati will be stealing this idea
>>8088686Ironically, /trash/ has a bettergeneral template. Found this on it:https://rentry.org/fluffscaler-inpaint
>>8088647
>>8088676+1 to this, I suck at git
>>8087248Tried that and it's not working for me, says it can't find the repository. I put the / in there before I get low iq filter'd. Just git bashing on the main forge folder so not sure if there's something else I'm missing.
While I remember, thank you to >>8084798 for your suggestion. This worked and now I can use Forge!
>>8088685
am*ricans will order this as an afternoon snack every day then act like $25/month are too much
>>8088711Off-topic but fuck am I hungry
>>8088711gen an anime girl eating all that but add cum on the food to make it /h/
>>8088695Awesome thanks for response, guide is pretty solid and does try to break down how/why things work.
Thoughts on canon 28 year olds with a successful independent careers? That's my favorite body type.
>>8088720you don't have to add a pretentiously witty "lol look it's not actually a loli haha pls don't ban me janny" caption every time you post an A cup, it just makes you look insufferably cringe
Any Holiday Yasumi enjoyers in chat?
>>8088722age is meaningless in anime land, if my dick get hard blame the guy who made those girl sexy, they can complain to me when we get real anime girl
i want a giant text file of characters and a giant text file of actions. I'm building my own but surely someone else has done this too? GIVE IT TO ME
>>8088729they're called wildcards and they already exist, you giant retard
>>8088729I aint giving you shit, my wildcard is for my egoist ass only
>>8088708
>>8088654denoise stuck at 1.5 which is causing assertion error
i have no mouth and i must scream
>>8088730>>8088731thanks, I now see the massive wildcard section on civitai, i was blind
>>8088734Can you give me the complete error? Reverted the PR in the meanwhile.
https://files.catbox.moe/5t1iwo.pnghttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/30caesntlcq6u/LoRA'sActually 4 LoRA's:AishaNornHoliday Yasumi (style, trained on Seiai Hakusho and excerpts from his Tsuzuru comics)Tsuzuru (Holiday Yasumi)>it's too big!>t. Niggerfuck you, it's my convenience, not yours
>>8088720damn brat, needs correction
>>8088742https://pastebin.com/XHagVwu4if its working for you i probably fucked up
>>8088751Correct bad girls
>>8088746based
>>8088755:^)https://files.catbox.moe/heosqt.png
>>8088746>too bigliterally how? dont most people have over 20tb at their disposal at any moment? i may be autistic but surely theres no real issue holding all that shit in one spot locally right?
>>8088754nice>>8088756cute
>>8088757some nigger keeps telling me my LoRA's are too big
>>8088752How can I replicate, were you inpainting with some specific setting?
>>8088759well tell that nigger to get>better internet that doesnt throttle him or have bandwidth caps>get more storage space>use a method that requires no downloadingwe live in some fucking amazing times, there is no excuse for "too big" anymore until you work with datasets in the hundreds of terabytes or more.in fact, recently i found out im processing nearly half a petabyte of shit. storage is cheap, nobody should be struggling anymore
>>8088760just default img2img settings, i managed to get a debug that was telling me denoise value was 1.5
Connect with princesses
>>8088732
So whats the style requirement for /h/ so i dont get jannied for trying to share shit?
>>8088771Depends entirely on how which janny is on. Don't let your memes be dreams.
>>8088503None, actually:https://files.catbox.moe/5tgvff.png
>>8087693here's the makima .psd>https://files.catbox.moe/41q4xz.psd>>8088656feel free to, i wish i'd saved more over time
>>8088676>>8088704I also require assistance from the git chadshttps://files.catbox.moe/z6wred.jpg
>>8088761>>8088759>>8088757>>8088746>oh you don't like my bloated unoptimized piece of software? you must be a nigger :)Reminder these people will when OTHER people provide THEM with bloated shit. But it's okay when we do it.
Me on the left.
>>8088635box?
>>8088784yes that is the case. they are niggers and theres no excuse
please spoonfeed a retard. I'm pretty sure my specs let me use SDXL, SD3 etc. I just have 2 questions.These are my goals>generate BBWs like >>8086877 (big areolas are a must), MILFs like >>8088481, latinas like >>8088611 and futas/femboys with minimal effort>pov pics like >>8086941>be able to use controlnet or whatever is used now to control poses and shit like that>eventually to do animation1. can I do all this with Pony or do I need some other finetunes? 2. Given my needs, which software should I use? comfyui seems like a pain in the ass. Fooocus seems like the most retard-proof option but I'm not sure if it has everything I need.
>>8088802install webui forgeuse reweik_ponyxl v01.1
>>8088800https://files.catbox.moe/yhrxwv.pnghttps://civitai.com/models/453587/shantae-shantae-sdxl-lora-pony-diffusionhttps://civitai.com/models/347880/pony-xl-urushihara-satoshi-langrisser-front-innocent-artist-stylehttps://civitai.com/models/460162?modelVersionId=512111https://civitai.com/models/436424/hatsu-artist-style-ponyxl?modelVersionId=486131
>>8088762Okay I can confirm the issue, it seems to happen with img2img in general, not related to the PR. Gonna debug to see why is happening, probably something related after the changes to processing.py.
>>8088802>>generate BBWs like >>8086877 (big areolas are a must), MILFs like >>8088481, latinas like >>8088611 and futas/femboys with minimal effortThis is a shitpost, isn't it? Please tell me it's a shitpost.
>>8088784>complaining about the size of XL LoRA'slolmao, no>>8088802AutismMixPony/Confetti are fine. Use Animagine as a refiner model for artist control. Pony excels in body/physiology/composition but lacks in style control, so you either need LoRA's to be unimaginative/directionless or use Animagine to find mixes of artists that make your peepee get hard but aren't just one artist's style.https://rentry.org/anypony-scienceThat being said, LoRA's are good for things Animagine doesn't have.https://files.catbox.moe/txxp1c.png
>>8088804why are you doing v01.2 dirty?
>>8088808what makes you think I'm baiting? I'm 100% serious. I know nothing about this shit and specified the stuff I wanna generate cause I don't know if some models/finetunes are bad with certain poses (pov), and I do know some of them generate generic skinny young white women no matter what you say in the prompt
>>8088746>not prime aisha or erisscam
>>8088809160 megs for a simple character lora is retarded m8 you gotta resize that shit80% of the learned information in there is pure garbage anyway
>>8088810because it works better for mesimple as
>>8088809People are gonna butthurt again over that rentry.>or use Animagine to find mixes of artistsOr 4th tail lyco extract.>>8088813At this rate we'll get to 32dims 100+ characterpack loras again and won't see anything wrong about them.
>>8088812>primeI'm on the third book. Without spoiling me, what do you mean by this?>>8088813I've played around with a lot of settings and I'm comfortable with my outputs after having trained literally hundreds of LoRA's. I don't have any desire to figure out the compression methodology and I'm not changing my Dim/Alpha. I'm not resizing shit and it justworks.png>>8088815Haven't seen that one, but this methodology has been effective. Is the 4th Tail extract analogous to the HLL's?
>>8088817>what do you mean by this?adultenjoy the series bud
>Set up a new folder for the branch>Can't do img2img upscalesGiving me some "NoneType" Object is not iterable error?
>>8088817>Haven't seen that onehttps://civitai.com/models/3120100.4.0 versionsyou wanna either use good Lyco version if A1111 or inferior Lora version labeled as "simple lora" if Forge because it can't process new fancy Lyco formatboth are weaker than refinery anyways but more accessible to 90% vramlets itt
>>8088821Season 4 inspired me to finally read. Won't get more of the anime for at least a year and a half, but the books are great for fleshing out the world and backgrounds. Great experience.https://files.catbox.moe/2q9uj8.png
>>8088823Yeah it seems broken, tinkering to see why it fails, so for now if people want to use img2img stock forge on dev2 branch should work, it has AYS as scheduler on settings.Something from "from modules_forge.forge_sampler import sampling_prepare" is killing something with the new scheduler thing.
>>8088824>weaker than refinery>can't use weaker version on ForgeIt's overOh well, I have 16GB, so refinery will still work fine for me.
>>8088819very hot
>>8088830>stronger version on Forge*
>>8088829I've been using kohya hi-res fix anyway recently so it's not as big an issue as it could be just wanted to make sure it wasn't just a me problem. That being said trying the euler a ays the colors seem to pop more but that might be just some copium.
>>8088810https://files.catbox.moe/ur6eri.pngyeah uuh
>>8088834noted
>>8088824>>8088830wait, lyco don't work on forge? that's odd
>>8088840>it can't process new fancy Lyco formatolder Lycos are fine
there are massive filesize savings when mass converting sai2 -> psd then 7z, but you lose some layer blending settings and stuff like thatwhat's more important?also some of these docs are incomplete, but that's just how I did things I guess
>>8088850are you lost?
>>8088850>>8088781mistakes were made
>>8086089>Think you can share the catbox of the posted image as well?i'll leave it and the others that i could find just in casehttps://files.catbox.moe/da0rws.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/lozort.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/57ywgw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/oidw4b.png>>8086193there's an extra one but colors are messed up, well i'll leave it here cause whateverhttps://files.catbox.moe/sk9wla.jpg>>8086580>solo lilyposted her in /e/>>>/e/>>2878350
>Barem? Sushi?... Denji, what the fuck are talking about? Come on, we need to walk the dogs
>>8088854I want to walk my nayuta
>>8088853too tired, fucked up the link to lily>>>/e/2878350
>>8088856oh yeah>>8088853nice
>>8088859Love 'em, thanks!
>>8088854>>8088863it's nayutover...
>>8088823>>8088762Okay I've fixed img2img/inpaint/etc it on the dev_schedulers, dev_schedulers_test and dora_dev_schedulers branches. CFG++ breaks on the test branch but img2img now works fine. I will fix CFG++ tomorrow. (Not sure if someone uses it)>>8088662Also re-added the soft inpainting fix, tested and works fine https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commit/0a88f2c3a692893e064174aea1926cda9a9b1decSorry for the delay for the fix, time to sleep
>>8088854I like this style. Nice.
>>8088866I refuse to believe. Look at how much alive (not dead) she is!https://files.catbox.moe/bk3zsb.png>>8088871thx
>>8088866lol
if i put "anus" in negative prompt, will it fuck with every other generation, or only affect the doggystyle prompts?(i dont like looking at gaping anus)
>>8088881then you put gaping in negs
>>8088850as you can imagine, i am not exactly in need of storage. i'd take the .sai2 files and 12 GB is nothingalso i wasn't sure if you were inpaint anon or not but this confirms it. i love your work>>8088851no, he's talking about uploading the project files for his inpaints
>>8088853>even more IANICE>i'll leave it and the others that i could find just in caseThank you.
>got banned for """ban evasion""" on my home IP for NOTHING, just for one of the posts that got purged yesterdayI fucking wish I could fucking piss in jannies' worthless mouths. Hey nigger, NOW I am evading your retarded ban, eat shit you worthless faggot bitch
>>8088890Did you get a dynamic IP? Could be because of that
>>8088891no, my home ip is static
>>8088555>same but for the assholeA guy on /e/ suggested "swollen anus", it sounded disgusting so I never tried it before. Wasn't even meant for penetration but seems to work, and even the pussy variant. This is without, with, and at 1.3.Gonna try other art styles now.
>>8088874nayuter will be fine (in our gens...)
>>8088853>there's an extra one but colors are messed up, well i'll leave it here cause whatever>https://files.catbox.moe/sk9wla.jpgand that fills the missing gap. good job
>>8088896ToT
>>8088885the uploading begins, see you in 200 yearshey thanks, nothing beats a >(You)
>>8088902that's cool, man
What does "source_pony, source_furry" in negative prompt really do? I mean I'm already not generating images of furries or ponies. It's not like it ever surprises me with a sudden random furry. Does it improve quality to put it in negative because furries are shit artists and the less the AI knows about them, the better?
>>8088902kek wtf I thought that was a meme joke, he's actually trans? model will be DOA if hrt addled faggotry is in charge. only a matter of time until the censorship starts up
>>8088907Why don't you try it and find out? Takes about as much time as writing out that post. imo it's just a slight art style shift, used to be stronger on base pony so people kept it from back then
>>8088909i suppose in the end these really are all just "artstyle tweaks" yeah, that makes sense.
>>8088908Yeah. Pretty much promised to be trash. No project headed by a tranny will last. >>8088910If he comes out as trans I will happily delete pony and all pony derivatives from my HD. No joke. This community has enough plagues upon it, we don't need those freaks welcomed here too.
wtf i just put source_trans in negs and my images became 200% better...
>put source_based in prompt>all my girls come out with red or orange hairstrange
>>8088902>>8088913ngl I admire your dedication. wish the average normie would recognize what a menace they are. openly being trans should be treated the same way people would treat a registered child sex offender moving in next door and knocking to introduce himself. it's crazy they're even allowed to be hired in modern society with the level of mental illness you have to have to do that shit to yourself. legitimately fucked up. hey Jordach if you're reading I'll post daily on your new board if you ban trooners.
>>8088902You'd "support" him if you donated to wd. If you're just using the fruits of xher labor you're not supporting him. Same goes for ponyfucker.
>>8088924Cope all day if you want, I'm not using a troon model. Simple as.
i support model bakers by not calling them troons, faggots, schizos, mentally ill, etc.isn't that enough?
>>8088925That's not a cope. But you're probably the same guy that did the "I won't use a model made by a ponyfucker" bait.
>>8088926I judge people by the quality of their work, but would prefer if they kept other parts of their life private.
>>8088931He's not really vocal about it. I've sat through wd's chat for a bit and there IS a couple of obsessed obnoxious troons there though. Like the types that talk about their dilators, depression and hormones all the time.
>>8088869gorgeous work
>>8088546I can't get over how sexy your OC is, holy fuck
>>8088869thanks much
>>8088948Same I start gooning every time I see her.
i want to mine my childhood memories for cartoon waifus but im all out of them, AHHHHH
>>8088525this actually makes it worse sometimes, and carries way too much style
>>8088885>>8088905pixeldrain com/l/e6ELFwRUonly madness ahead.
https://is2.4chan.org/h/1719549430747481.pngAnon, is it possible to get LORA to re-upload this illustration?
Another fun artist mix that messes up hands in annoying ways.
>>8088969thank you anon, as always
>>8088967>harmoniebased
>>8088972"inpaint masked" in webui with metachs NAI addon with alternative denoise mode for max zenyou can also use this to have infinite canvas size for free (1024x1024 or similar res) gens, by working with smaller tiles of an overall image.
>>8088974a traitor seems like a fitting test subject
>>8088869Pusbox? her artstyle looks cute
>>8088754Vigne is a good girl
>>8088978nta but there is his other one with box >>8087189
Why do my locally trained loras produce better results than the civitai training service? I'm using almost the same settings. Am I being scammed?
have somebody encountered images breaking when sending to inpaint sketch? is it a google chrome thing only?
>>8088992nevermind, this shit happens when you try to resize the browser window and setting it to something different from 100%, god i hate gradio
Glad to see that the 8k in donations get used to make clones of perfectly fine websites while the actual model is still cooking on a single 4090
>>8088999The websites will be full of furshit anyways.
>>8088999>perfectly fine websitesSuch as?
>>80890054channel.org's /hdg/
>>8088869Nice, thanks anon. Now if only I could get this wildcard problem ever solved it'd be incredible. Only started happening on forged with the dynamic prompts extension where it sometimes just ignores the syntax for wildcards and prompts literally whats in the prompt box instead of converting your wildcard into the prompt.
>>8089007There are more than enough barely moderated image boards you could move to. Don't see why you'd wanna go to one with a core population of insufferable furries
We need more finetunes instead of lora. But with pony fucker model it's almost impossible. I think people forgot that finetunes have much higher quality than lora
>>8089011Why would you need a 6Gb lora? Just train a lora. Have you trained a lora today? Who needs models, who needs finetunes when you could just train a lora?
>>8089011normal finetune of pony is impossibleit's overcooked
>>8089016finetuning a finetune sounds like a bad idea to begin with
is there a three-quarter view tag working on pony? or do i have to fuck around with (from side:0.6)?
bang banghttps://files.catbox.moe/axx9xy.png
>>8089017It isn't if it's a proper finetune, plenty of usable stuff was made for nai leak for examplebut pony really is a special case
>>8089023she hit my heart
>>8089025nice boobjob
Guys, I saw someone say that anyone that jerks off to AI generated hentai is beyond saving :((( is it true??
>>8089059yes it's over for you incelshould have kept jerking off to human-created hentai to support heckin artists
>>8089059To your own gens? That's a slippery slope towards drawing. To someone's AI patreon? I don't even need to say it.
>>8089059lollmao even
>>8089063Say it.
post cunny
>>8089066https://files.catbox.moe/tr3662.png
>making a lora of anime chracter using only anime screencap because autism and want to keep the artstyle>supportive character so only one outfit>outfit bleeds into other clothes if genned>roll the dice and gen her in other outfit that don't have the bleed>use those gens to add to the database to create another loraCall me Frankenstein, because I'm about to create an abomination.
>>8089073Good shit. Thank you.
>>8089066https://files.catbox.moe/r6datc.png
>asura (asurauser)
>>8088999didn't they say they're going to use h100s for training the big model?
>>8089088asura (asurauser) is dead and the pedos killed him
>>8089092amenpost cunny
>>8088948>>8088954same
>>8089097ahhh ahhh mistress pumping my little cock for you... its trembling and pre is coming out...
cant pay for nai anymore so i guess im getting on local now ,though I wonder what would happened if i tried fine tuning a model on all the stuff i genned on nai, anyone tried that?
>>8089100You could sell your gpu for 15 months of nai
>>8089100its the idea for minor finetunes like tponynaiit *kinda works*I wouldnt bother doing this myself>>8089102this is junkie-tier shit lol
>https://github.com/Tencent/HunyuanDiT/tree/main/kohya_ss-hydit
>>8089113So we can make loras for the ching chong ming mong model now? Any sense in doing that or does it need some anime finetune first?
Can I assume that model coming into the future will use the same format of 1 girl,1 boy,sex?
>>8087943NTA, but I call skill issueThis is what I can get from base pony
>>8089115>Any sense in doing that or does it need some anime finetune first?I haven't tried it, but hunyuan should have *some* innate anime knowledge, unlike SD garbage. Doubt it will be enough for loras to not be extremely stiff though.
happy ameriday bros
>>8089118
>>8089125
>>8089123Amen (greetings from Malaysia)
>>8089123i thought prime day was in 2 weeks?
>>8089127
>>8089115It knows anime among other things very well, but it doesn't know NSFW since it's literally illegal for them to make it in China. Considering how fast this project is evolving I'd say Chinq models are the way of the future, that finetuners are planning Sai model finetunes still just shows how out of touch they are. No finetune being made on a SAI arch is going to stay relevant for much longer.
SEEEEEEEEEX
>>8089145proof?
Gentlemen, behold!
>>8089159I came
>>8088978https://files.catbox.moe/frtysp.png>>8089009Really? Even after I did the fork dynamic prompts extension have worked great. Do you have any example or error message to check? Like most of my gens are just wildcards/dyn prompts.
>>8089159this took me a while to grasptrue art
any guides on training with masked loss?Do I just create a folder named conditioning_data_dir having the same names as the dataset images, but being png masks?
>>8089185Just ask ChatGPT. Been doing that all day, telling it to explain all the settings and parameters I don't understand and it just works.
>>8089185you need to create a masked version of your dataset basically. so if you have 1girl_A and 1girl_B then you need to have separate loss mask folders for A and B. the folder names don't need to be the same but i think it's easier to work with if they are.i have a script that automatically generates training masks based on transparency that you can use:https://mega.nz/folder/9oxATQTK#mAe-SdELv6A03F7Dazxy3wjust specify the path to your dataset and whatever folder you want your loss masks to be in and it'll create a masked copy of your dataset pretty quicklythen create a dataset toml and specify each training folder as[[datasets.subsets]]image_dir = 'your\training\folder\A'num_repeats = 1caption_extension = '.txt'conditioning_data_dir = 'your\mask\folder\A' you can also just let the training script generate them automatically based on transparency but it's incredibly slow and the .npz files it generates are huge.
>>8089194No way lol, that's pretty niche stuff. You sure it's not hallucinations?
>>8089196Not as niche as you think. It knows many of these "tech support" type of answers because, unsurprisingly, many people have been posting about them on various forums and reddit.
>>8089199try asking it how to set up a masked loss config for sd-scripts
>>8089007
How did you guys find a style you like? With the near infinite possibility im always thinking I could do better and im never satisfied with what I have
>>8089225in my case it's a style just enough to wank
>>8089225I used to mix the styles all the fucking time but eventually settled on certain mixes that I like. Rarely I find something interesting at someone else's prompt and try mixing it in somewhere.
>>8089225always go by featuresif you like the cute/moe features in one style, and the rendering of another, mixgo a step further, start splitting off blocks for cleaner merges (OUT00-OUT05)once you start looking at styles as bags of features, use intuition to see which you should combine with to maximise the appeal of those features.
That small e6 rebound really didn't help his delusions...
Any /hdg/ approved Pony checkpoints for better or more detailed backgrounds?
>>8089245pony is too fried to do backgrounds, unironically switch to animagine or go back to 1.5 if that's what you want
any advice on how to get the cock completely buried/hidden in POV shots? i've tried a lot of descriptions and negatives to no avail
>>8089244I used to cope thinking this was just shitposting but yeah time to accept that he's just fucking delusional.
>>8089248>animagineisnt that censored?
>>8089245reweik has the best ones by far, though nowhere close to animagine. And using a style lora will drag it back down towards pony
>>8089233Thats quite a good idea honestly, my only issue is that after looking at so much different shit Im not even sure what I like anymore, I need a brain reset
>>8089253https://civitai.com/models/550870(Updated and improved version coming soon.)
>>8089244Like other anons have said, wdV is our only hope. Anlatan has already tried to go after Neggles by claiming some of their trainer code was "stolen" from the NAI leak. That's how you know it's a real threat kekhttps://github.com/neggles/neurosis/commit/ba54639a4603b41eb764c63af951ee4560b9a00d
>>8089259What, are you trying to gen nude landscapes?
>>8089244
>>8089264There was tag related loss code in the leak and the cheeky "hey look tag frequency based loss scaling wonder where we got that one from" in the readme looks like it probably was that.
>>8089218Hello sir, may I redeem a box?
>>8089244>>8089254he's just joking you guys can't grasp sarcasm
>>8089275Everything people on the internet say is 100% sincere and you must take it at face value.
>>8089138
>>8089064'box? artstyle looks lovely
somebody recognizes thit artists mix? https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/119985103like ofc there is ciloranko, but what makes body proportions and anatomy overall, NAI gens don't usually have such body by default
>>8089284It's NAI, sorry.
>>8089275no, this is what he honestly believes, and he's made similar statements in different situations and different discordsyou're just an autist who can't tell when people are being sarcastic
>>8089290nta but I can understand thisit's hard to believe that someone's actually this delusionallike how can one look at the outputs this 1b model sharts out and say this is pony/nai levelbecause that's barely 1.5 level, fucker
>>8089291>like how can one look at the outputs this 1b model sharts out and say this is pony/nai levelBy never having used either and believing pictures people post are inpainted to hell and back?
>>8089294one could expect a guy who started a finetuning project and gathered $10k donations to be at least a bit knowledgeable about current imagegen state
im gettin paid
>>8089294he used neither? are you serious? bruh.
>>8089294correct, if you've seen jordach talk about pony and nai it's pretty obvious that he has never used eitherbut that's to be expected from the guy who was training a 1.5 model at the same time everybody else was switching to pony and nai
>>8089301DONT SPREAD FUD SIR, CASCADE WILL SAVE US.
its always better to have more competing models than less, if wdv devs are gonna work harder due to pony+loras AND cascade pressure - so be it
>>8089275it's just so disappointing. i want local to break free of censor sepia ponyslop but there really is no path to salvation here. i wish angry tree man was in charge because he at least seems rational and sane. some of you fuckers are shilling wdv/wdxl but you've been saying that shit since 2023. nothing officially posted about the model itself
Either Cascade or WdV, that's for sure. But you need to choose between a delusional baker or a tranny baker. Can't have everything in life.
>>8089319previously we had to choose either a brony dev or stick to 1.5 slop, look where are we now
>>8089319Trannies are delusional by definition. But somehow troondles seems to be less delusional than Jordach so I'll go with xher.
>>8089319It's not even a choice.Xir has access to an h100 cluster and is baking with it as we speak.
>>8089319i like how you didnt even bother to include 'furry' as the window has shifted so far that it's not even a noteworth detraction anymore
>>8089325bets that it will be pruned from "problematic" content?
>>8089320if I was a fan of slimegirl I would bust the fattest nut
>>8089328he's not the obnoxious type in that regard.
>>8089329already confirmed to be using all of danbooru gold
>>8089333then by bad
>>8089329Doubt, unless something changed from a month ago
>>8089331Is neggles obnoxious type?
>>8089336danbooru already IS pruned. i was going through the top artists yesterday and every page had at least one with 1k+ images that was just deleted due to a 'takedown request'. and their shitty gold account filter too
>>8089339that's why they're also using pixiv, and they also have all the gold-locked images
>>8089338xhe's a cunt kinda, but doesn't scream about his identity and tranny shit
>>8089338They don't say much, seems like they're just focused on baking.
just you wait neggles, the day of reckoning will come
>>8089346Chat, is this real?
>>8089345exactly like a baker should behave, kek
>>8089343i hope that dataset will be actually curated my hopes for resonance dropped upon learning that they dataset is raw gelbooru scrape
I've been out of the loop. Where was it stated a new WD is being baked?
>>8089348it's from the wd discord
>>8089357kek
>>8089352when i was going through artists i realized just how bad it is. so many of the top artists with over 2000 images are just endless pages of comics that the model simply can't understand. this is why i suggest using yande.re and konachan as an aesthetic filter and weighing those images higher (2 repeats) than everything else. there is simply too much useless junk that doesn't really contribute to a good image model
>>8089325its not going to use a higher channel vae is it
Eugesisters, are we irrelevant?
>>8089365Eugebros...
>>8089365I'm afraid we are..
>>8089364Obviously not.
I'm going to say something brave anons.I hope all bakers succeed :)
>>8089273https://files.catbox.moe/yt29xs.png
>>8089371BRAVE AND BASED GL BAKERS
We love our bakers folks, we have BIGLY bakers.
>>8089375Catbox?
>>8089363yup, and that's just tip of the icebergmany artist with even hundreads of illustration have incomplete catalogs on boorus, there is lots "free samples" and that's require scraping kemono and panda and mannualy assemble datasets, some tags are extremely poisoned or strait up dysfunctional, best example is loli on gelbooru, at least half of it is toddler shit and most os the rest is total worthless garbage quality wise , with such dataset for resonance this tag will not be functional at all
Ganbatte bakersYou have some ponyslop to dethrone
>>8089363>>8089377content classifiers: exist
what is a good preset for fine tuning/dreambooth?
>>8089379that's only for third point in my post, but still feeding model with tag where probably over 90% is garbage it is good idea?
>>8089381why are you so insistent on the idea of *feeding* them?
>>8089383what? kek
>>8089385u can filter retart
>>8089381hello sirplease do the needful and redeem english language before posting
>>8089392sadly i can't, always make mistakes when typing any longer sentence
>>8089338don't forget about the epic bake-off between neggles and jordach where jordach claimed it's 'over for 1.5' while neggles embarrassingly and unironically shilled SD34 months later cascade is still worse than 1.5 and practically unusable while SD3 is a complete disaster and wdv still has nothing to show for itselfthe absolute state of local, folks!
>>8087043this but vaginal and wet is peak
>>8089402>epic bake-off between neggles and jordach>neggles embarrassingly and unironically shilled SD3pic unrelated?
>>8089402>in about a month>marchthey aren't anything close to a finished model now, in julywhy say shit like this
>>8089415hrt-induced delusions
WELL I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN, WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M FREE
>>8089406maybe you missed the part where he spent the past 7 months getting wormtongued by cumrag and mcmonkey about how SD3 will be the peak of image gen, so much so that he started gaslighting his clique into believing that wd3 would actually be good.there are no saviors coming for localkeks, both jordach and neggles are complete retards. jordach's eyes are so fried by furshit that he can't see the ugly mess directly in front of him while neggles can't acknowledge the here-and-now and commit to actually making anything at all. you will get 5 more months of underperforming cascade epochs and 5 more months of nothing from WD.
>>8089427>you will get 5 more months of underperforming cascade epochs and 5 more months of nothing from WDthat's the most likely outcome by far, unfortunately
>>8089427got any posts proving that cumrag was shilling sd3? after its failure he's been saying that he hasn't been related to it
>>8089427He's not wrong about sd3 being good, just not the version we have weights for
>>8089427>he started gaslighting his clique into believing that wd3 would actually be good.there's no telling if he was using the same model that got released
>>8089365Where the flip has he gone
>>8089422Alright enough Carl's Jr ads, back to testing stuff in Regional Prompter
>>8089202I love how WET this looks
>>8089177It's been an issue before the fork, like it just seems to be happening more on the fork. I get error messages constantly about embedded wildcards saying "it can't find them" but it works anyway. But for instance my prompt will be like >{__1girl__|__hsex__} >{__ba__|__ak__|__uma__}To pick charas and prompt setups I got for sex. What it does is just ignore all those and I'll get a string of like 1girl, hsex, etc and it just gens literal stuff. Nobody else seems to have the issue from what I've seen except some blurb on their github with sometimes if you have a long chain or too many it will just freak out or can't handle it?
>>8089436I wish this shit was consistent in any way whatsoever
>>8089427So which model has this baker made in the past?
>>8089431here you go, right from the WD trooncord. that entire place is basically just corporate cocksucking between all the midjourney and sai employees they have there.
>>8089448lol cringe
For the people that use the forge fork, I've added more schedulers (Normal and DDIM), from PR https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/16149. (https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commit/93059781b0e2dc8b788596cd423488021cfc0e4e)Also CFG++ seems to work even after the modification of yesterday, though looks weird (as well as KL_Optimal) if using Restart + CFG++/KL_Optimal>>8089441Okay that's pretty weird, if you want you can upload those wildcards and try that same prompt.Is any chance that you're using any part with triple underscores in the prompt (___)?
>>8089448i think this is the either 4B version with only the T5 that got canned for the 2B version or the 8B model
>>8089454Nah no triple underscores, it's all doubles. It's an intermittent issue just seems to happen but it's happened more frequently on the fork. I assume it's just an overload of wildcards or prompt token thing making the extension crap out
>>8089448>Have an entire functional model>destroy itSai is gay.
>>8089461there was a possibility that we'd get sdxl with a broken vae as a mean to "watermark" ai gens for safety sakethat and 2.x failure should have prepared you for this bullshit
Volume 10 was peak.
>>8089481love this . can share prompt ?
>>8089482It's NAI, prompt isn't scraped cause it's just stealth png.
>>8089493stealthpng has been a thing since forever, wonder why anons didn't use that instead of catbox extension
>>8089496catbox extension still lets you read the metadata
>>8089496Well, getting people to install an extension just to benefit other people using their prompts is a hard sell, even if everyone would benefit if everyone used it. It should be added to the OP though.
>>8089264>the one good feature they mentioned was just stolen from NAIv1kek
Reply with the best feet you can gen.
https://files.catbox.moe/87ynse.jpg>220 MB lora vs 19 MB loraReminder that size isn't everything.
>>8089506i havent genned any recent feet so ill have to repost
>>8089506
>>8089357We're doomed
Finally, Euler a + DDIM and DDIM + DDIMcatbox for HD: >>8089460Really weird, if you want as I said you can upload those wildcards and I can try them, or the complete prompt you're trying with that forI use for example a prompt like>score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, nsfw, uncensored BREAK female, __haircolor__, __hairstyles__, __hairlength__, __eyecolour__,__breasts_sizes_ranges__, __attire_jewelry_and_accessories_head_and_face__ , __accessories__, __attire_headwear__, __bangs__, __legwear__, __neckwear__, __face__ , {(abs:0.9)|curvy|athletic} BREAK { __breasts_clothes_for__| nude, {puffy|inverted|erect} nipples| completely nude, {puffy|inverted|erect} nipples| __Clothing__|__clothingtype__ }, {from behind, rear view, ass, looking back|from side|from above|from below|from front position|}, __backgroundsvariantstxt__, __focus_body_parts__and it works fine.
>>8089357so jordach is stuck in the 1.5 era of "good vs bad" gens huh
does network dropout makes training slower? as in more steps for convergence?
>>8089506what makes a good foot?
>>8087972>https://github.com/neggles/neurosis>hey look tag frequency based loss scaling wonder where we got that one fromSo what are the chances that this line is what ticked them off? They probably checked out his repo after he talked to that one NAI guy and were like hol' up.
>>8089521It would make sense.
>>8089508For such a simple concept (that pony completely fails at doing it, reason why you're training it) there's no problem with that. Actually, you train it even better. Higher dims are only for complex features, it could be either a character, a style or a very complex pose/concept. But in very few cases, reinforcing a concept that the model already recognizes like the one you trained or if you're trying to train an insanely simple character (for example any girl coming from go-tobun no hanayome), I do believe you can train using 4 dim or even lower. You just need to identify how simple or complex is the thing you want to train, then use a dim that fits nicely with it.
>>8089519Are any of those nested though? Like I have some with wildcards nested into wildcards and I think that's where the break's come in.
>>8089525wonder how many arcane tricks NAI used for V3 that we'll never know. guess it really isn't as simple as chucking images at a generic training template. maybe thats why every local xl gen looks that same and fails to emulate soft styles
>>8089529I have some nested characters like{__chars1__|__chars2__|__chars3__|__chars4__) and it works fine D: but only that in the promptdo you have multiple nested wildcards?
>>8089528How would you determine (or at least approximate) the complexity of a particular character/style/concept?Or would you just train at 32 dims and then resize down?
>>8089530the tag count loss is definitely still employed but probably at a even more advanced level, considering nai v3 is able to reproduce characters, concepts, and styles with as low as 150-200 images (s16xue for instance)
Am I crazy anons? I tried NAI for a week and am already unsubscribed. It feels infinitely better to gen locally, dunno how to put it into words. I guess it doesn't help that NAI doesn't know some of the styles I like/cant do the degenerate shit I was hoping it could kek
>>8089533for me it's that 'multiple views' inpainting trick that was being passed around in january to get it to generate characters it didn't know. i have yet to see any other model able to do anything like that. it's clear it's not just a simple "check the data at it!" finetune and that there's far more research to done before anyone approaches that level.
>>8089538yeah, until we have a finetune on an inpainting model we wont be getting anything like that locally
>>8089538well of course it's not just a matter of throwing data at it, it's also about having 10000 times more compute than any local baker
>>8089536nai mogs locallocal is massively limited in terms of variety, but it's unlimited in terms of genning, loras and toolingnai is unbeatable in terms of fidelity (detail in gens/texture/anatomy/etc.), variety (poses, camera angles, mundane objects) and composition (foreshortening, blend styles, camera fx like dark/light or themes)local nai would be the ideal, but that's not happening.
>nai MOGS local>spits out a smeary mess
>>8089549they're jealous of the tub of grease nai used bro cut them some slack
freetards woke up. 2 more years until they catch up?
>>8089532I wouldn't recommend rezising everything since some LoRAs starts to break after they reach a certain dim size. When you resize, the Lora may or may not work, but regardless, you're still erasing information from the model. The right thing to do is to retrain at the intented dim size, so everything fits nicely. How? That's the unfunny part: you'll need to retrain a Lot and play with settings, make grids, etc. But I would say there's some kind of rule of thumb: 2 or 4 dim: concepts that the model already recognizes and just needs to be reinforced4 or 8 dim: very simple characters with no unusual features, shapes, or outfits. Made for simple concepts too.16 dim: characters that could have unusual features or shapes, also used for not-so-complex artist styles. Can learn outfits as well. Can learn different simple characters, but only a few. Can learn concepts with unusual poses or smthn, but not too complex.32 dim: complex characters with lots of unusual features and/or shapes, colors, etc. Recommended for asymmetric characters as well. Artist styles will learn very nicely here, it is able to capture a Lot of patterns and also color ranges. An artist trained with this dim size can kill ponysepia. Can learn different complex characters, but only a few. Intended for very complex concepts too.64dim or higher: intended for insanely complex art styles, to learn basically nightmare fuel creatures and/or obscure concepts/characters. You can fit dozens of different characters here too. You'll have to deal with a risk of overfitting from 32 and above, specially 64 or higher.
GOOD MORNING SIRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>8089551>2 yearsgenerous i'd give it 4-5, couple more years of bakers rolling around in the mud trying to make a good model
I'm getting the strong impression the only one shilling the troon baker here is the troon himself. Pathetic, even the delusional furry has a hot female (female) that shills for him.
>>8089521more steps and each step is more slower
saar please be subbing to the nai very cheap for poop smear
>>8089557The shills are in the walls
>>8089557b- box sir? were are bobs and vagene
>>8089557>hoti'll give you the female part though
>>8089562Looked good to me for 3dpg.
>>8089551im already far ahead of you. nailets could never even dream of the degree of waifu fidelity that i have achieved
>>8089511anime version of the garden of earthly delights
is there any service i can use to animate some of my images? i use nai so i cant do any local animation
>>8089562Dont you dare speak of my waifu that way. Her cuteness is without compare. If I could bake, I'd make a b- lorahttps://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/fit/image/1534/10/1534106909644.jpg
>>>8089531So what it was doing and I think I figured it out is if there's 1 (uno) single fucking error in any of the cards, the whole extension shuts down. Got an extra bracket or miss a close in one wildcard it just bricks the gen. I saw someone mentioned that as an issue that didnt' seem to be resolved and watching my gen I saw the error pop up when I went and re-introduced my wildcards 1 by 1 so far hasn't happened yet after fixing the one that was botched, which was a more recent one.
>>8089569With all the GPUs they have why hasn't Nai invested in animation gens? Are they hyperfocused on their failed textgen stuff or something?
>>8089567You're gonna post your gens any day now right?
>>8089588i already do
>"X/Y/Z" plot script>it only plots in two dimensionslame
>>8089575 Here. Wait>>8089562All lowercase text... b-, my love, was that you all along?!!
>>8089592b- is currently banned for complaining about the jannies
>>8087281how did you get this so consistent? my luma gens become schizo, what do you prompt?
>>8089594What in Gods name is wrong with them
>>8089320based
>>8089585Nice you kinda found the issue, yeah these things can break wildcards.
>>8089399ohh nice
>>8089595dont type too much thing, the more you type the more it get crazy, "a anime girl in a lake with a waterfall in background"also dont use their optimize prompt thing>>8089609for the fellow ass man
>>8089611>bottom leftthat was a crazy stream, sad he's retired now
>>8089506cattybox?
>>8089622Did he go full schizo?
Experimenting more with style combinations. Any anime/manga styles you guys keep as your go-tos? I'm trying to expand my horizons on that front and work out good mixtures in the mean time.
>>8089624go ask /aco/
https://www.paddle.com/help/start/intro-to-paddle/what-am-i-not-allowed-to-sell-on-paddlehttps://docs.coreweave.com/policies/terms-of-service/acceptable-use-policy
>8 iterations later>still can't match the level of detail of the original, allegedly broken implementation of immiscible lossi see
>>8089626I don't know what you want from me, both style LORAs I mixed were JP styles. And even then, what would /aco/ know about hentai artists?
>>8089623He has a website up that lets you test out Reso on his GPU so it's more like someone was probably testing something annoyingly taxing.
Holy shit what went wrong
>>8089565>>8089564This is fucking incredible mang
>>8089639you can't use sdxl and 1.5 as refiner just like that in webui, if that what you were doing. they can't switch vaes on the spot
>>8089506>autismmixconfettiHOWHOOOOOWShe even has the small anime nose
>>8089622This out of context thinly veiled furry hate from discord is a waste of the image limit. If you are not going to provide context or tell us who these people are, please stop posting this.
>>8088627Wanted to try these ones, I cloned the fork and everything went well but I want to use the same venv folder as my original Forge installation. I tried venv_dir on the webui-user.sh but it's not working, can someone tell me if I'm just too retarded?
>How long is this brat going to cum in me?
>>8089637Why does he use it for public testing if he's going to spazz out about people using it for... public testing?
>>8089645good morning newfriend sir
>>8089644Because confetti mix actually does anime styles unlike the other ACO centric autism mixes. I've been telling you fags this for months and you keep shilling DPO instead
>>8089654why is it called confetti anyway? Because it's a party?
>>8089648Just activate the venv first and then start the webui from within the venv
>>8089645Have you not read a single thread for months? How can you unironically not have followed any of this by now, even from casual lurking?
>lora>loha>lyco>lokr>doraBROCan these fags stop inventing new bullshit and just settle on one single standard?
>>8089651I don't know if I would call that spazzing he just said "fuck off for an hour". Considering how he talks, that's about as polite as he gets. I'm more curious why he said that in the furry diffusion discord instead of the Reso one knowing it could have been someone in either. Not a great way to make sure the message gets delivered at all.
>>8089656It's merged with the confetti model
>>8089658No, I usually have Fappe Tyme enabled to ignore all the schizoposts from non-image posters because it's always the same "NAIbad/Cascadebad/Negroidbad/Pajeetbad/LocalBad" spam
>>8089660LoRAs are already pretty ubiquitous. That's your standard for you.
>>8089661It comes off extremely unhinged.
>>8089660Everything aside from Lora is a waste of time.
>>8089665who cares about jordach personally having a bad dayif you're going to post drama at least make it baking related
>>8089665That's because he has the annoying to talk to type of autism so I give him slack there and feels kind of wasteful to care about. I would never want to talk one on one with him though.
>>8089656Because its a mixture of little scraps of many artists and thats the first word that popped in my head.
>>8089665Just like your obsession with inconsequential drama
>>8089663>Filters all posts that would provide context for the images >Confused why he doesn't understand what is being posted I see
>>8089671that's pretty based actuallykeep up the good work
>>8089454How the fuck are they all so differentOn a side note im gonna fuck the right one
>>8089620>>8089644https://files.catbox.moe/f1k70x.pngHere's the raw image. I inpainted out the puddle of cum that comes with prompting (excessive cum:1.2), but other than that it isn't really heavily doctored.I did use anytest controlnet along with this image to get the final result: https://files.catbox.moe/bd5pry.jpg
>>8089657Thanks
>>8089650love the style! which style lora are you using?
>pip cache purge>purged 2217 elements>Go to see disk>I freed 32.5gbs of space HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>8089508What lora is that? The lite version seems great
>>8089677<3
>>8089650Thats the type of shit you find terrible when you are not horny but insanely good when you are
>>8089668>>8089672It's foreshadowing to the outcome of the model. An unhinged, narcissistic baker is going to make rash and spiteful choices and poison the final product in doing so. It's a storm brewing, hardly inconsequential if you have hopium or money invested in his finetune.
>>8089702feel bad for the guy who dropped $6,300 on his tune
>>8089702i also don't have high expectations for resonance but you're managing to come off as more delusional than jordach right now
>>8089688i did it and now my sd keeps generating bottles of mustard
>>8089682thanks man
>>8089702i invested like $30 and i dont care. its a shame that it's become a failbake but alas, it's whatever. if another project pops up i'd probably donate $30 to that too. hating on cascade isn't even worth it when it's so inconsequential and impacts nothing. unlike SAI which deserves all the hate for actually sabotaging local models and setting progress back years
>>8089688How do I purge my own pip cache?
>>8089708half the thread is delusional with their drama faggotry
>>8089689See >>8089263It's still cooking.
>>8089702you care more about it being bad than people care about it being good at this point im starting to think its just shitpostingjust stfu and wait and see, no one care about speculating on an unfinished model
>>8089704I'd be more pissed if I was that guy that they've randomly decided everything is being cooked on a single 4090 when the original promise was that donations would go towards a faster release. By the time you see 3.6B at the "finished" epoch Cascade won't even be a relevant arch anymore. They got greedy quick wanting to spend donations on their own personal cluster. >>8089715I spent my money on it why shouldn't I care?
>>8089714The catbox you linked seemed really promising for keeping the style so i'll be waiting for it
Been busy for the last month or so, what happened to all the catbox images in the pony token spreadsheet and the lora rentry?
>>8089718token sheet was spited
>>8089713Basically this. Most of the /h/ regulars are people who can't generate shit so they just wreak havoc on here to try and drag down others who are actually trying to improve
>>8089718someone probably shat on it, no surprise. the effort to mine tags got boring after people realized that pony looks shit regardless
>>8089702I mean to be fair you can't make shit so who are you to even say anything? You're just a slopmaker.
>>8089712Literally type pip cache purge into your CMD
>>8089725hello cascade discord member
>>8089725That's like saying you can't tell a movie is bad if you've never directed one. Literal retard.
>>8089725good morning b- sir
>>8089725Bad bait
>>8089725holy cope, my sides. it's Astrakike jr
damnsdxl vae fucking sucks
>>8089735yesit's why i honestly don't really care about wdv or whatever.
>>8089735train a better one oh? you cant?
>>8089725>You're just a slopmaker.So, you agree he's on the same level of creation as Jordach? Nice one.
Remember when Jordach initially claimed that the 1B model would be good by epoch 5 and then doubled down on that in here a couple of weeks ago? Me neither.
>>8089737*cums in you*
>>8089737>>8089725obvious samefagging, weak bait.
>>8089739Remember when Jordach claimed the donation funds would go towards speeding up training and then decided to just use his 4090? Me neither.
>>8089739>>8089743Remember when Jordache said on e2 of the 1B that it's already a pony killer, and is now claiming it's better than NAI? Me neither.
>>8089735whats a better one
>>8089745there is none
>>8089747damn....
>>8089735wdv fags stay LOSING LMFAOOOOOO
>>8089749xe's right though, it's an architecture issue rather than the vae being trained wrong
>>8089750bolt on sd3's bloated 16 channel vae onto sdxlprofit
POV: you're now Chained Manhttps://files.catbox.moe/aicqvp.png
>>8089754ahem... UOOOOOH
>>8089749What VAE do you think NAI v3 was trained on?
>>8089739Don't worry anon, who cares about models. We have nullsector!
>>8089749This is literally about minor changes in SDXL vae like contrast. Not stuff like channels anon. Like 1,5 vae vs blessed vae
>>8089730The opinions of the gooning slopmakers who don't do the work rarely matter compared to the ones who actually know what they're doing.Take for example how fervently my comment got spammed with angry replies just because I reminded someone that they were indeed, a slopmaker. A slopmaker on a shitty /h/ thread, who has to drop their images when they post out of fear of being ostracized from the threads because their opinion is fucking idiotic. Why is this considered bait? Because I told the truth, that the furry working on the shit we use is more important than the failed patreon sloppers who can't afford NAI or even sell a set?Until they're the one developing the stuff we use to generate images, you don't matter, and its best that they shut the fuck up. Simple as.Just stick to uploading pseudo-hentai trash that nobody will pay for, and let the actual professionals do the ground work.
>>8089752sdxl's latent space is 4 channels
>use a pose lora>get pretty good result>realize I forgot the lora>activate the lora>get worse resultOk I dont know who is more retarded, me or the lora maker
>>8089768Lots of pony concept loras are just snake oil desu
>>8089764The failed Patreon sloppers who can't afford Nai are the ones paying for these hacks to be able to fuck up, sweetheart. Keep up.
>>8089768The model itself
>>8089757did you hear that b- is going to be constantly samefagging every thread to make they seem like they're active? gosh, i can't wait to move there!
>>8089757>>8089774Explain, what the fuck is a "nullsector"
>>8089769yummy
SD3 as a refiner when
>>8089771I'm pretty sure people who can't afford nai can't afford to donate but keep doing whatever mental gymnastics you want to do to continue your narrative
>>8089775jordach's 4chan clone that will "incorporate the best parts of CivitAI, /hdg/, e6ai, and the scatterd ai generation discord communities"
>>8089774I wasn't onboard at first, but if I'm getting nonstop b- posting... Where do I sign up?
>>8089779this just in: delusional furry and elderly man think all of their projects will be a big success and everyone will flock to them!
>>8089778Truuuuuu
>>8089779Will b- be posting nudes?
>>8089781here you go, sir: https://board.spectrometer.art/
>>8089778I'm the poster you originally called a slopper and I'm telling you I donated a large sum to the project, hence my displeasure at Jordach being a faggot. Did that lay things out clear enough for your room temp IQ, simp?
>>8089789Can you confirm >>8089783It's very important
>>8089769nice oc she is very hotim curious if the eyeshadow is from prompt or the artist you used?
>>8089792they're in the secret boards that only meanoldtree can access
>>8089788I hate how yelan outfit is so fried, thanks pony I guess
>>8089790>a large sumHow much imaginary money did you donate?
>>8089787sir please do the needful and donate over 50 dollars to redeem exclusive b- bobs and vagene
>>8086793I'm just starting off generating, can I ask for help and pointers in this thread? Or is there a separate thread for such things?
>>8089799go to /g/ we're having a meltie rn
>>8089800ty anon
>>8089799Tell us your specs first, then we can go from thereYour device can narrow down how we can help better
>>8089287prompt?
>>8089799Yeah go for it.
>>8089796Several thousand b- nudes.
>>8089364>>8089735>>8089749explain this new shilling point. is this 16 channel shit some cascade exclusive gotcha that they're trying to use to cope around the fact that cascade looks like complete dogshit, or is it an actual relevant improvement? what does the difference look like between a 4 and 16 channel, and is it something that can be trained after the model is cooked? is this something that's a reasonable complaint or is it like me complaining that cascade/wdv are dead on arrival because SAI base models are shit compared to dall-e?
>>8089810it's SD3's vae, which is able to construct fine details much better than older models. It only works on SD3. Unfortunately, it's wasted on a dogshit terrible base model.
just got back, i went days away from the thread, what's happening now? why are we hating and shitting about cascade, wdv, or the 4chan alternative that the furryman is building to escape from groid troll posts and jannies? i thought we all wanted new model and a place free of niggertrollspam, i don't get it
>>8089810it seems like a massive improvementduring training every image is converted into latent space via the VAE. a 16 channel VAE is worse than the ground truth but it will allow the AI to see things like legible text on a shirt or cowboy shot/full body characters with pupils. a 4 channel VAE shits out blobs and smudges instead. basically every training image in sdxl is being run through a shit quality smudge filter. from what i understand there is no way to switch out the VAE, SDXL is fucked forever and is why i'd much rather see the wd finetuner work on cascade
>>8089818hello b- sir, did the ban just run out?
16ch VAE is harder to train and requires a bigger model to compensate.Pixart tried making 16ch vae and complained about how hard it is to make it work
>>8089819>from what i understand there is no way to switch out the VAEdon't worry, indianchads are on the case!https://github.com/huggingface/diffusers/discussions/8713
>>8089819Eh it's not that big of a deal to be honest for an anime model. It's definitely an improvement sure, but it's not the end of the world not to use it as shown by NAIV3.
>>8089821wasn't she still banned i think? i just realized a lot of posts are being replied like this, i'm just a random lurker you shouldn't care about
>>8089824he's talking about using the VAE for lora training, which does seem like it would be a pretty big deal
>>8089823ok maybe sdxl can be saved then>>8089824you say this but i have tried and struggled a lot to train an aura lora that is able to recreate her pupils when mind controlled accurately and why even bother otherwise
>>8089661I let people I personally know make use of my personal 3090 if they're a bit short on GPU power, and I was attempting to get a grid to generate under CAPGUI but things just didn't want to play ball until I restarted it all.I've been dealing with bullshit motherfucking-ass bureaucratic nonsense today, especially since disabled people are treated like second class citizens. It's been a massive pain in my cunting ass. (No, it's not election related.)>thinking I'm going to ruin a golden opportunityYou know my intentions at this point, I'm not going to screw it up. If it needs extra oven time, I'll pay for that myself out of pocket.>>8089637There's two GPUs: my main desktop 3090 and the 3090ti that powers the public instance. (They're in separate PCs.) The private 3090 is the in development version of CAPGUI and is often unstable if I'm testing out new features, and, I hadn't run the test grid for e6. Today's just been a write off for me personally, not training wise >>8089623Just bad luck with paperwork. If I was really spiteful, I would've used SIGKILL on the training terminal a long ass while ago. I'll be fine once I eventually settle back down.
Floox makes more money generating NAI hentai than I do working a full time jobI hate my life
What the fuck has happened to this general? Pony has only been out for 6 months and you'd think we've been stuck with it for 2 years. Did people forget how bad 1.5 really is? We went from more than a year of coping with 1.5 slop and barely being able to generate coherent sex, to being able to generate basically any nsfw concept in a BASE MODEL. Just sit back and relax, something better will come eventually.
>>8089829When are you planning on switching back from the 4090 to cloud computing? And is it true that you're going to cook the 3.6B model only on the 4090?
>>8089829what's the current plan for the big model?the h100s aren't going to be cost efficient but I'm sure some people donated knowing that a faster bake has a premium fee
Oh look he's hereWell at least he actually comes to 4cuck and speaks with us instead of being a tranny going full shilling an utter garbage model for months, then probably spend 5 months figuring out how to use a cluster
>>8089830No point looking at the 1% that managed to get that first place lead unless you plan to catch up to them somehow otherwise just ignore it
>>8089831if you've been using pony constantly during those 6 months there's no way you wouldn't understand why so many of us are sick of it, even if it's obviously leagues above every other local model
>>8089831>in a BASE MODEPlease stop pretending people use base pony to achieve their gens
>>8089819then why does every cascade image look fried, especially the eyes? i'm not trolling here, i genuinely want a good local model whether it's wdv or cascade or something else. an issue with a lot of cascade gens is that they look poorly upscaled. you see a thumbnail and it looks nice but you open it and it looks like it was dragged up in ms paint and then ran through topaz gigapixel. i'm not seeing the 16 channel vae take effect here at all
Doing 1.5 txt2img was such a shit show, but I'm still attached to the few images I made that weren't shit
>>8089830This >>8089835Also, 100% of that small 1% of dudes needed to work hard and get their current followers for at least more than one year, followers buying your shit doesn't grows out of trees. Those people were already posting a lot of 1.5sloppa before NAI3
>>8089836I use it daily anon, but not "constantly." When I feel the urge to gen, I'll gen for a bit, coom, and move on to something else. You'd be sick of anything using it "constantly" for 6 months straight. Same reason I got burnt out on NAI3 after using it for a few months. Everything is better in moderation anon :)
>>8089834Go back to generating slop, slopshitter
>>8089839the 1B model is fried garbage and will most likely continue being soa better example of what cascade can do would be the 3.6 prototype
>>8089831Pony is really good and everyday im happy that we are past 1.5 and I can make good gen without jumping through 20 differents loopsIts also a piece of shit that make me seethe at things that should be working but just dont and I wonder what could have been if the guy who made it was actually competent instead of just lucky
>>8089840pic not related
>>8089831>how bad 1.5 really wasgood morning astralite
I'm not sure if this makes any sense but is there a prompt to get the body spark/jolt whatever things on characters? Like on the bulge in picrelated. I get it in some of my generations but I can't figure out how to do it on purpose.
>>8089839idk, i think jordach said that he's using the same training parameters as the group that originally made cascade and the group that originally made cascade said that 1b was shit and they didn't put much effort into finding good settings for it
>>8089839The eyes look like that because they're undercooked actually since it's having trouble comprehending all the styles of how artists draw eyes within a small latent.
>>80898481. white background sucks so who cares2. now prompt sex on based3. i still dont get how this retard managed to fuck up white background
>>8089846You can say that about a lot of things in life anon, is what it is.
>>8089848Now try to prompt a gangbang on 1.5
>>8089832Soonish, I have zero access to the non-profit bank account, meaning I have to wait for the guy who runs the non-profit to sort things out. Right now I want to see if it's safe to leave e7 in the oven as-is at 5e-6 LR before making rash choices. I want to see what it's doing from now on, rather than going in blind now that I have some experience.>>8089833I had like $50 the other week in Vast credit so I tested a singular H100 on the models - my tests are that the H100 performs only slightly better than a 4090/Ada A6000 on 3.6B using the already existing text encoder from the Lite run. And Lite with the TE trains barely faster on the H100 than it does on quad Ada 6000s. Trying to max out the tensor core usage on the H100 is for the most part impossible due to how fucking fast it is relatively speaking. I spent more time shuffling data from SSD storage to the H100 than actual training the model.>>8089839I don't get it either, but on occasion it'll snap to full clarity like it just realised wtf is going on. I didn't see this a ton in the 3.6B prototype so my guess is that the text encoder plays an insane role in how things work inside the actual image model itself. Because it's not locked into place yet, things are still a bit fuzzy, but nowhere near as bad as say e5 or e4. It is improving, but not as well as it would be if I stopped text encoder training.>>8089845>>8089850It can be undone if I don't train the text encoder, which is the entire plan for 3.6B. I plan on releasing a frozen TE run on top of E6 to see if it cleans up. Or in other words, text encoder training gives the model a headache.>>8089843What this guy said.>>8089851Bit of both actually. On occasion it goes nice and pin sharp like 1.5 in hi-res fix or SDXL does. Once the text encoder is done I can just kick off a run on Lite/1B with the finished, frozen text encoder until it behaves properly.
>>8089831the seething stems from the BEST sdxl model being locked behind bars at novelai, and all bakers being too incompetent to make a rivaling model
>>8089853>>8089855did you remember to post on civitai today slopsaars?if your model looks ugly as literal shit, it's not worth prompting sex on. local sex looks so fucking boring and expressionless. pony isnt an objective upgrade from 1.5, it's a sidegrade which is why sophisticated people choose to use NAI instead of dealing with gross toonslop outputs.
