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>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki
Optimizations *NEW*
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Maintained branch:
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/257749/
https://civitai.com/models/288584/
https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
EF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*
Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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Threadly reminder to pray to Neggles for local's salvation!
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i just want to be happy
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>>8096589
won't happen, champ
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Trying to get a position like this is fucking impossible.

https://files.catbox.moe/j2e0rj.png

>>8096575
That's from Viper series, right?
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>>8096594
prime subject for controlnet then
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>>8096594
just controlnet+inpaint
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Bros, wtf is this. I came here expecting to type "hot naked anime girl konata izumi" into the prompt and get a fully detailed picture like those that people upload to hentai websites. Instead, this is what I get. I open the github pages and there's like a billion things to study and configure. At this point it might be easier to learn how to draw, wtf man. How do I make it not look like shit? Please point me in the right direction and not just throw an AI bible to learn.
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any advice for going from paizuri to fellatio? I want it to look like she's leaning far forward and really getting in there
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my cute wife (adult)
also taking wife requests because im bored

I'll get to it eventually
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>>8096615
saber Lily and Shuten school girl outfits
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>>8096609
Were you tricked by the butthurt artists into believing making qt grills is as easy as pressing a button?
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when training a lora does "keep tokens" mean if I set it to 1 it keeps the first tag up to the first ","
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>>8096615
spread cunny close-up.
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>>8096615
Maybe Florence/Shishou?
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>>8096611
Sounds like something a concept lora would do, mixed with some heavy inpainting.
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>>8096609
grab a decent pony based model and a character lora and let er rip

https://files.catbox.moe/qge9fv.png

take this catbox image download it and drop it in PNG info to see my prompt

here's the lora I used

https://civitai.com/models/358625/ponyxl-konata-izumi
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>>8096621
What loras did you use to make this style?
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>>8096618
I was tricked by OpenAI’s and Microsoft’s heavily censored offerings that work like that.

>>8096625
Should I use the pony models even if I’m not interested in mlp porn?
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>>8096615
oshino shinobu of course or taiga aisaka
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>>8096626
I did a huge extract from https://civitai.com/models/463446 (512 dim) which is just overkill and not needed, but testing things.

I use it on the forked forge upstream since like, for batch size 2, count 2, hi res 1.5x Euler a and Restart

A1111 takes about 1 minute 50 seconds
Forked Forge about 1 minute

It seems A1111 takes like really a lot of time loading the lora, forge takes nothing.

catbox https://files.catbox.moe/xwf4s7.png
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>>8096622
head rest seemed to give a decent effect, I made a quick example to use as a guideline to gimp the original head into position and finely inpaint it into the new pose.
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>>8096628
people will bitch and moan that I am saying this cause they hate the creator of it, but the pony based models are the best right now for local genning.

If you go and look at civ you can see what kinda stuff is made with pony-based models its not all mlp. its the best at making anime stuff currently.

most people use a mix called AutismMixConfetti and some style loras of their choice.

I will shill my own model tho.

https://civitai.com/models/533446/miqomix-model-merge
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>>8096625
don't get him into negative bloat right off the bat
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>>8096633
bro, everybody here agrees that pony is by far the best local model we have
that's exactly the problem
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>>8096625
Is this from a custom trained model? Do I have to set up a scraper on a booru to get a model like this?
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>>8096615
s-snake
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>>8096581
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>>8096643
the character lora? No, There are a million on civ for pretty much any character known to man, just search and you will find it.

As you learn how to gen things you will get a hang of things and learn the terms. I recommend stealing other peoples prompts thru catboxes to learn more.
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>>8096643
Better give her some tits unless you want the banhammer, friend.
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>>8096659
oh hey thats my gen
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>want to get a single girl doing a double peace sign
>write 1girl, double peace, plus the rest of the prompt
>get 2 girls doing double peace
Tried setting the weight of 1girl to 1.6 but I'm still getting 2 girls most of the time, any ideas?
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>>8096643
Based Konata enjoyer. Shouldn't be posting flat chests here though.
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>>8096662
did you try with "double v"? that's the proper danbooru tag
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>>8096665
Yeah, same issue.
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So I have been running some tests with controlnet, and the further away the subject of your picture is, the more haywire the result. This one worked really well compared to the original.

https://files.catbox.moe/qwp815.png
(Hand fixed)
https://files.catbox.moe/9lzn66.png
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>>8096646
Beautiful. Thank you.
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>>8096662
Are you making a horizontal image? The dimensions will effect the image results.
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>>8096646
based, thanks anon
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>>8096662
hands up, peace sign

hands up are both hands up
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>>8096633
You are completely delusional or lack the ability to read if you think people will bitch at you for saying pony based models are the best for local
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>>8096673
Yeah, 768x1024
This doesn't happen if I don't use double peace or double v.
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>>8096662
I do double v all the time as a test for various loras,

>>8096676
I figured more people would complain and call me a shill or something
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>>8096669
Well yeah of course, the point of Cn is to act like a guideline for your picture, if the picture you use as a base has a specific thing like an haircut it will bleed into your gen unless you lower the weight but then the pose become less accurate thats why you need to play with the weight
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>>8096662
Try this.
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>>8096680
Could be a specific problem with the new 4th tail then. I don't get this issue if I'm doing an erotic prompt with a girl and a guy, but the moment I want 1 girl doing a double peace sign it fucks up. That said, this >>8096675 did the trick.
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>>8096683
maybe you're running out of the 75 token limit in the middle of "double v" so the model reads it as "double" and "v" separately
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>>8096682
4chan striped the metadata from this.
>>8096686
Still at 65.
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>>8096687
no it didn't you need the catbox extension for your browser check the OP
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which sampler do i use for multidiffusion upscaling method on forge?
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>>8096455
Where did you get those loras? I can find like half of those but no luck for the rest
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>>8096674
>oh that style looks nice, maybe I should ask for a catb-
>see hands
>nevermind
nothing against you anon, the style is really nice it's just that I know it would keep bothering me on every gen and I'm too lazy to use inpaint or adetailer for hands so I need decent hands from pure txt2img
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>>8096616
Bonus variations, quick saved so didnt inpaint all of these
https://catbox.moe/c/zyvexm
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>>8096687
You can also just grab the catbox from the filename if all else fails.
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>>8096700
based
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>>8096700
Your love for stockings is not lost on me.
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>>8096625
This Lora is perfection, thanks for pointing it out, I've been genning Konata like crazy these days..
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>>8096625
I'm trying to generate using the same model and lora, but it's slow as fuck and is giving me an ETA of 30 minutes to 1 hour. I'm using an RTX 2060 with 6GB of VRAM. Is it over for me?
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how the fuck do you explain to your parents/family that you make a significant sum of money making AI "art"? my extended family actually does my taxes because they're accountants so I'm really not sure how I'm going to phrase this considering I make degenerate smut
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>>8096714
tell them you love bbc so much you had to share it to the world
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>>8096711
6 GB is probably too little. I have 8 and after high res fix there's only 100 MB left. I want to upgrade to be able to use more advanced shit like control net.

If anything, make sure you're using the recommended local UIs.
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>>8096711
>>8096718
6gb is enough to gen sdxl with lora on forge
slow as shit but you can even do 1.5x upscales without tiling
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>>8096711
if you mean miqomix and catbox those are mine, I gen on a 2070 8gb and it comes out fine pretty quickly. If you are using hires fix I would disable it, I feel like its a waste of time for a vramlets like us.

You can also try lowering the res down to 768x1280 and 1280x768 and visa versa
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>>8096714
>going online and telling lies
shiggydiggy
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OUR (adult) wife
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>>8096620
Sorry bro, I can only offer full grown adult woman pussy
But have some other variations too
https://catbox.moe/c/a2xjts

>>8096705
They're always a good touch
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Im actually getting better gen with no neg instead of source_pony and source_furry
What have I been doing all this time
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>>8096738
its been known that putting those in negs will negate a good chunk of the dataset ponyfucker finetuned Pony on, either tone them down or don't use them at all or itll fuck with your gens. Why does it work that way? I dunno ask astra
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>pony cannot do backgrounds
>pony cannot do proper depth of field and blurred background to conceal this atrocity
do i just gen fucking white background at this point?

>>8096737
love your gens, shutenanon
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>>8096739
NTA but same case then with score_9, etc?
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>>8096741
no and also the anon you're replying to doesn't know how negative prompts work
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>>8096739
well fuck me feel like I wasted a lot of gen, is there any neg that actually do anything positive then?
>>8096741
You can pretty much remove everything but 9 and 7 without too much issue most of the time and 9/7 if you are using a good lora
>>8096743
Feel free to explain if source_pony/furry are mandatory then
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>>8096743
>how negative prompts work
nta, but you can throw all that knowledge out the fucking room when you're working with pony, it's completely fucked under the hood
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>>8096721
It's gonna take 1 hour. I'm using the webui and the same parameters as the other poster. I don't know what's making it take so long, I tried another prompt with default settings at 1024 x 1024 and it took 5 minutes at most.

>>8096722
>if you mean miqomix and catbox those are mine
I have no idea what those are

>>8096714
If this is true then someone could get a 4090 to pay for itself with these gens.
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>>8096710
Any prompts and gens you could share?
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>>8096746
>If this is true then someone could get a 4090 to pay for itself with these gens.
I started my patreon on june 18th and I'm already up to $240ish gross and the first month isn't even over. honestly might just use this shit to upgrade my rig even though I use NAI
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>>8096749
followers when you started it? I've got something going on pixiv but I've mostly given up
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>>8096749
Wait thats your significant sum of money?
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>>8096744
they aren't mandatory, but it's not negating half of the dataset or whatever. it's denoising your base image twice for each timestep, first with the negative prompt and then it's using the changes made by the negative to tell the positive prompt what not to do
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>>8096746
you said you were using the same model so i figured you were using the one I linked and the catbox is the linked image with meta data I posted.

I don't think it should take that long even if you are on a 2060, are you on forge or A1111?
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>>8096752
I was at like 3k pixiv followers when I started
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im retarded and reposting cus i didnt notice new thread. is the 4th tail + autism here https://civitai.com/models/568043?modelVersionId=633045 better or worse than the other one from pixeldrain
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>>8096611
box please
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>>8096757
>you said you were using the same model so i figured you were using the one I linked and the catbox is the linked image with meta data I posted
Yeah I downloaded the konata lora you linked and it asks to use the pony model, which I'm using.

>are you on forge or A1111?
Where do I check those? I downloaded the webui version and just ran the .bat script.
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>>8096758
dang only at 1.4k, were you doing smut? I don't feel like doing that and figure it's hard limiting me
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>>8096762
yeah, thats probably part of why, pixiv for some reason also really favors algorithm wise with the thumbnail image so you really need to pick a good image for your first one even if its out of order
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>>8096761
if you look at the OP, which front end did you download? Forge is a more optimized modded version of A1111 with many pre-installed features.

I highly recommend using forge if you are not. If you are already on forge I am not sure why it is taking so long for you to gen.

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Maintained branch:
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2
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>>8096762
>>8096764
pixiv will ban you if you reference your patreon anywhere on your profile, you are not supposed to link to anything that has non censored content
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>>8096746
>He didn't buy nvidia stocks when SD/Chatgpt first got released.
>AIslop literally already paid for itself over five fold if you got guts to make a bet
>Now I can afford over 10x 4090 if I wish.

https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/93853693/#93854001

Must sucks to lack guts and foresight. Good news is that the best time to invest is NOW. Time in the market beats timing the market. Literally free money in my sleep.

>inb4 LMAO, he bought when peak

Same energy as this dumb ass, ngmi

https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/93853693/#93854021
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>>8096766
Oh nevermind, I'm using A1111. I'll try using the forge one, thanks
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>>8096761
I suggest either

https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge

or

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge

If you have less than 12GB VRAM.
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>>8096768
you can't reference it as uncensored anon. you just say "full sets and (other bullshit) available at [link]" you also don't link it directly you just link to your main page
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>>8096621
Here you go
bonus variations, includes both characters
https://catbox.moe/c/he1m25

>>8096740
glad you like bro
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>>8096775
holy shit anon this is amazing, 10/10, thanks
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>>8096774
Main page as in just the home page? That seems fucking retarded but so is their censor law so whatever
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Does anyone know of a good night time lora that actually works? At this point I am considering just putting a blue filter on the image.
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>>8096778
like your patreon homepage yeah. the law is a bit retarded but you just can't imply or directly link to uncensored content. if its paywalled and you don't mention it then they don't care lol
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>>8096615
>>8096775
if youre still doing requests, try for the feeling of "i miss her so much". interpret this however you feel
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>>8096615
Sylvie from teachingfeeling, solo and nude, in a beach? It's a cunn- err I mean totally adult character. Grey eyes and hair, also with long hair, no ponytail pretty please
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>>8096781
its always funny to me how pointless those censor are, I dont even get for who or what purpose they are
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Fuck, turns out my vocabulary is really weak expression wise
please send expressions
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>>8096791
Unironic.

https://files.catbox.moe/pu3w4w.png
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>>8096754
I know its not negating half the dataset, negative obviously dont remove the model knowledge otherwise you wouldnt be able ot gen anything when putting white background+simple background in neg but im not really sure what their purpose are if im not getting pony or furry anywhere anyways
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>>8096791
to be fair, lip bite is a good expression as is
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>>8096791
try to put "disgusting nipples" in neg
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>>8096793
there isn't one
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Give me your oppailolis.
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>>8096758
How long did it take for you to gain 3k followers?
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>>8096746
Here's the finished result after 1 hour. Still doesn't look the same as the picture posted earlier. What could be different here?

I'm gonna try the forge fork now
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any furfags using NAI know how to get a little fluffiness spread throughout? instead of one tuft and the rest perfectly smooth
https://files.catbox.moe/ithtzv.png
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>>8096804
never used nai but try to use furry artist
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>>8096791
>>8096792
the expression "euphoric" always produces interesting results
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>>8096747
Tried to share catbox links, but 4chan keeps cockblocking me (Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.)

Try score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, 1girl, <lora:konata:0.9>, Konata Izumi, 1girl, long hair, blue hair, ahoge, green eyes, mole... continue from there.
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>>8096804
try asking on trash? I really doubt there's a lot of audience for nai furry model, it just doesn't hold up for genning afaik.
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>>8096795
No
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>>8096810
Thank you.
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>>8096809
oh god not that furry model lol I mean normal nai, does trash do kemo?
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>>8096803
I use my own custom model that has a style baked in and that's why yours are not coming out exactly the same. I linked it earlier. Drop it in your model folder and try it instead of pony.

>>8096633
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>>8096810
based
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>>8096633
Lizard sexo...
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>>8096629
Here's shinobu, the aged up adult version of her of course
Genning her is weird because all of her versions go under the same tag, and apparently its impossible to do her fat tit version from kizu
bonus
https://catbox.moe/c/z6ikip
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>get bored, very much not creative
>try to make footjobs
>wonder if i can make it do shoes-on footjobs
>it kinda can, but fights back a bit
im a little surprised
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>actually jerking it to opossumachine lolis
I should just fucking stop before I go too far. I really went from ignoring lolis to having loli in 90% of my prompts way too fast man
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>>8096801
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>>8096826
which ones got you
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>>8096826
yeah stop before the hallucinated noise from your computer get hurt
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>>8096829
wait you dont hgallucinate and befriend them?
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>>8096822
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>>8096609
download any autism mix
use this konata lora https://files.catbox.moe/ld4ack.safetensors because civitai one had like ~20 pictures as dataset without proper tagging
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>>8096828
I'm prompting my own
>>8096829
nah that i dont care about, just feel like going this far is fucked for my mental health.
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>>8096835
>downloading random loras
what a way to get pickled.
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>>8096644
You didn't specify
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>>8096838
>pickled
>.safetensors
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>>8096840
You don't eat the funny cereal just because it says healthy, do you anon?
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>8096836
Unironically people aren't lying when they say stuff escalates, stop before you end up cooming to furry scat.
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>>8096836
based
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>>8096780
https://civitai.com/models/516042/low-key-lighting-style-pony
https://civitai.com/models/432511/low-light-for-pony

>>8096839
kek
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So I had a bunch of new parts and shit come in yesterday, so I wasn't able to train up the :3 model since I had to re-assemble like 3 computers (mine with new shit, transfer the older HW to another computer, and the shit from that to another).
I'm in the process of getting my computer in order, and once that's all wrapped up I'll get that :3 shiz taken care of.
I doubt anyone was exactly itchin for it though.

On the bright side, I finally got that shiny new HDD, so no more "no lora, prompt only" shit from me.
Though now that I've gone full stockholm syndrome, I'll probably stick to prompts for as much as I can, only dippin into loras for shit I absolutely can't do.
Thanks for reading my blogpost. Wildcard anon, out.
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>>8096835
I tried this one. It seems to have issues staying on model, but that's not so bad if you don't want to stay close to her original design.
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>>8096849
https://files.catbox.moe/i76qk5.jpg
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>>8096850
>staying on model
you mean cunny? just use cunny tags and "size difference", you have to bruteforce pony in this regard, i've tried putting some of it in dataset but it won't do much against base model
also mole under eye is ass to gen, sorry
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>>8096850
Also it helps if you use "Konata Izumi (\lucky star\)" instead of "Konata Izumi".
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>>8096849
>On the bright side, I finally got that shiny new HDD, so no more "no lora, prompt only" shit from me.
It's autism but I unironically dislike loras.
Getting shit with prompts only felt way more satisfying to me. I mean I still use them but I felt more fun trying to get stuff out of the model with proper prompting and inpainting rather than just resorting to loras for every fucking thing. Can't avoid using them for characters the model literally doesn't know but using them as a crutch for everything feels boring.
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>>8096853
No I meant the face. Sometimes it outputs a completely unfamiliar face compared to Konata.
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>>8096836
>nah that i dont care about, just feel like going this far is fucked for my mental health.
I once failed an entire semester of college because I would stay up all night and play my cunny-modded Skyrim with 100s of porn mods.
I'd stay up all night, and would be too tired to wake up to make it to class, so I'd just sleep in the entire day until like 5pm and then do it all again.
Really fucked my GPA and grants up, and ultimately fucked up the entire course of my degree since I had to do like an extra year or so, and then life shit happened on that extra year that forced me to drop out.
Cunny is a fuckin drug.
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>>8096860
try putting "(lucky star:0.5)" before BREAK and "jitome" after, "cat mouth" for her usual expression
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>>8096784
To be fair that's like my whole folder of her
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>>8096863
Can you upload an example in catmoe?
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>>8096856
>I unironically dislike loras.
I've reached the same point. Mainly because people train them like shit. Their ineptitude at training fucks up gens. Prompt only means it's either your fault, or Pony being fucking Pony.
I think I'll just use them for styles, and characters that aren't in the model.
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>>8096851
I'm literally day 0 sub of NAI, so trying to learn from local.

I fail to replicate your great image even copying exact same prompts, any tips? Maybe I'm missing some settings or whatnot
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>>8096864
hot
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>>8096826
Don't stop that's based, also don't blame the AI or the porn, it just just unearthed what was hidden inside you all this time
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>>8096869
check off auto under the sampler settings, check smea on, and dyn off

also i gen in high res natively
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>>8096856
I mean in a perfect world you dont need lora but yknow...kinda stuck with pony for now
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>>8096864
no anon you dont understand. im mind broken and miss someone that was very close to me. some days i just sit outside at night and think while looking at the sky wondering where i went wrong
whatever that feeling is, i want to capture it
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>>8096870
insane
pony could never
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>>8096849
But you didn't post anything...
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>>8096875
I'm curious to see the awful attempts now
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>>8096872
Thank you, that did the trick
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>>8096875
I actually haven't seen anyone test it with excessively wide resolutions and missed the chance myself while I had the opportunity
would be cool to look at results
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>>8096876
Post anything how?
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still cool that you can use this shit to make lewds of obscure characters who would never get such art if any under normal circumstances
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>>8096862
Skyrim porn was addicting not gonna lie, was like a shitty koikatsu with a side rpg game I would play for 30 min before getting bored and spending the rest of the day fucking one of my follower, had probably 1500h and I could never finish this piece of shit game
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>>8096875
>>8096877
checkmate
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>>8096867
the problem is my ESL brain can't grasp your complaints, if by "off model" you mean she doesn't look like from anime - dataset only consists of fan-art and im afraid to put any screencaps in it to not poison base style
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>>8096714
Generate a fake portfolio of SFW art
toss it up on a wordpress with a paypal link
tell them people just like your ideas :)
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>>8096615
Do Konata
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>>8096886
Yeah, I meant she doesn't look like from the anime. "Off model" usually means away from the original design sheet, used a lot to refer to badly drawn animation in anime.

Can't post cnnuy in 4chan so here's a Konata with medium breasts (heresy)
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>>8096615
and kagami-chan
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>>8096884
>we have eye focus at home
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>>8096850
> not so bad if you don't want to stay close to her original design
The gens closest to the original design are the best, regardless of character
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>>8096714
Unironically just easier to tell them you do "graphic design". It's familiar enough to most people to have an idea of what it entails, but still nebulous enough that they know fuck all about what graphic design actually is.
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>it's fucking over
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it's actually kind of crazy how pony does practically everything in its power to avoid looking aesthetic
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>>8096714
>I gen aislop for porn addicts, problem?
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>>8096891
You can upload the cunny imgs to catbox and post the links here.
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>>8096894
>eye focus

I didnt even have that in my prompt thanks, its better now
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>>8096881
I wish I could. The character I like has not gotten fanart since the early 90s, and most of it is lost. The little I managed to save up is too lowres, and almost useless. The rest is all scat for some god forsaken reason.
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>>8096903
Tell me about it. I've wanted to gen stuff from the 90s and unless it's super popular like Dragon Ball or (maybe) Slayers, you're fucked. It is what it is.
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>>8096903
post the best one you got, you absolutely can start with 1, but takes a lot of effort
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>>8096785
The art on danbooru is all over the place for her, nai had some trouble without going max description
dunno how accurate it is for you but, album:
https://catbox.moe/c/k3cs8a
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>>8096902
thats a fish
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>>8096903
I somehow trained this one using cropped iPad screenshots as my sole data source (it is pretty fried)
but yeah the manhwa having a lot of different panels with different angles in its 100+ chapters did help a lot
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>>8096874
Sorry anon, not really sure how I'd capture that myself
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>>8096907
no you're a fish
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>thread is plunging into model penis comparison again
sigh
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>>8096906
also this is an adult woman by the way
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>>8096901
I would if 4chan would stop cockblocking me, says it thinks my post is spam. I'm also not sure how to get the inline link instead of the direct link (I don't use catbox much)
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>>8096905
This is the most highres (off model) art she has. The rest are miserably tiny.

https://files.catbox.moe/u6bmik.gif
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>>8096906
lol she looks closer to tachibana arisu than to sylvie
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>>8096891
>>8096895
i can try including screencaps but my lora training skills are ass + unfucking miyuki dataset atm
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>>8096916
Yeah, its like TRYING but not really getting it; probably better off doing a lora on local for her
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>>8096915
looks fine to me, pull up your boot straps and get to work
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>>8096906
This image fucking hurts m,e because if there is someone who needs a damn vacation, that's Sylvie.
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>>8096919
Nah it shouldn't be this far off, tried prompting Sylvie on NAI before and the result was certainly closer than this. Maybe the styles are overpowering here.
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>>8096915
thats just a blonde girl with wavy hair you probably just gen her on base with how basic she is
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>>8096906
Holy mother of mercy thank so much you shutenanon
If you could do her now doing the lewd with a well-endowed 1boy pov or non-pov, indoors, that would be absolute best
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>>8096922
Maybe, could just be artist issue
I didnt really try without artist tags
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>>8096916
>>8096919
>>8096925
Didn't more {{ }}'s to empower tags like grey eyes and do the same for the ponytail and hairpin would just do the trick?
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>>8096881
Who's this? Cute
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>>8096926
Ponytail and hairpin both in negs I mean
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>>8096923
That's my issue. Sure, she has wavy hair, but her particular hairstyle is lost with so little good data available.
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>>8096915
as an example, here's a quick gen. with determination, you can fix all the details while improving the overall quality and then voila you now have two images.
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>>8096629
Here taiga (adult)
interestingly, my artist mix REFUSES to gen her unless i include toradora! near the top, and including that fucks with the artstyle a little
https://catbox.moe /c/4xabln
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>>8096915
>>8096903
when it gets this bad you can commission an artfag lol
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>>8096931
I see your point. I will drag her screaming back from obscurity.
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>>8096918
Good luck!
Testing to see if 4chan doesn't cockblock me: https://files.catbox.moe/van2y0.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ohi1gl.png
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>>8096903
>The rest is all scat for some god forsaken reason.
(fec:1.3) aside, sounds like a usable bit of data to me, considering that you can't be picky in this case. Just crop to the head/shoulders, leaving out the shit. That seems to be the important bit. Train up a model using your extremely small dataset, gen some halfway decent images (helper tags are gonna help a lot), then train a proper model.
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>>8096936
as an unrelated example, pic related was no lora using just the corner pic as a starting point. we have the technology.
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>>8096941
How did you get her to rotate?
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>>8096943
from side
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>>8096874
sitting, solo, expressionless, looking at an empty chair
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So I tested gen speeds on both A1111 and forge and found them to be identical. Has A1111 caught up or am I missing some command args?
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>>8096948
might get away with it, thread got much more relaxed recently. but yeah that is cnnuy
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>>8096950
If you aren't vramlet that's to be expected
Forge still should outperform on 6-8Gb
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>>8096909
i have some ideas
>>8096949
i have to make it /h/ somehow, and i know exactly how, but thats definitely next
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>>8096954
Is that silo9's girl?
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>>8096955
that's what I thought. Any command args for A1111 then? Right now I'm only using --xformers
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>>8096924
i forgot the pov indoors part but here's these
i just went with the same description prompt, same album with added extras
https://catbox.moe/c/k3cs8a
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>>8096823
Maybe it's like >>8096258 >>8096272 additional prompts push it towards one or the other
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>>8096959
>>8096964
i appreciate your material but do us a favor and at least not make the dude fat
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>>8096959
Thanks
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>>8096966
dude must be fat, impossible to self-insert otherwise
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>>8096966
but anon that's literally all of us
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>>8096969
>>8096970
that may be true but i hate fat people, it is truly disappointing
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>>8096969
>>8096970
NTA but swole dude here, you lazy ass niggas better go do some pushups before the diseases starts to kick in
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>>8096972
need kagami gf to wake up at 6 am and jog in park with
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>>8096976
good night anon
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>>8096964
Tysm for the Sylvie pics, even though she doesn't looks as intended and also the fat dude (I go to gym at least 4 times a week) but that's completely fine, thanks again bro
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>>8096974
Based
Go get some gains, do it for wife

Do it for your wife, anons.
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>>8096966
fit dudes in porn are fucking boring
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>no bbc spam
>no bans for lolis
is somebody on summer break?
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>>8096984
then make it a shota since youre already getting loli, i just hate fat guys thats all anon, tyhey dont need to be fit, they could be a skeleton, for all i care
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>there were transparent pngs in dataset all this time
if this is the reason why all attempts at training sucked ass im gonna snap
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>>8096989
not shuten anon
and sorry after exposure to jav porn my brain is just wired to gen middle-aged fat dudes fucking cute girls.
not even fat myself yet but I'll get there eventually
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>>8096987
Ever notice how there's only ever blacked OR loli spam happening at any one moment, and neither get banned? Think about it.
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>>8096990
>if this is the reason why all attempts at training sucked ass
the funny thing is i have zero idea if you're talking about your own lora or some local shit-tune being worked on, because this could apply to all of them
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>>8096992
to be fair, even outside of JAV there's an overwhelming amount of uoh content featuring fat oji-sans
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>>8096994
lora, i haven't fucked with dataset this much because i don't like miyuki and found alot of bad apples in there, and now angry at myself because of wasted compute
>>8096992
>>8096996
i can tolerate even melanin-rich males but as long as they are less detailed than girl its not hard to self insert
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>>8096993
Do I really need to remember you that back into some months ago the bbc spam always started along when someone started to complain about "pedos" then it suddenly stopped when this person stopped complaining
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why can't you faggots get over one fucking spammer that hasn't even been there for like a week already jesus christ shut the fuck up
you literally can't stop accusing each other of being him retards
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>>8096993
>>8096999
>loli spam
ah yes, cunny posters are groid spamming colective
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Okay whatever conspirator-kuns, stop talking about this topic, we're not summoning this person again.
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right, back to hagposting then
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right, back to cascade hopeposting now that jordach got blessed with god-level hardware
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>>8097013
>now that jordach got blessed with god-level hardware
Take your meds. Now.
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more like copeposting lol lmao even
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>euler a turbo
is it worth?
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>>8097019
which lolis did he post, were they even good?
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>>8096932
>saisaka taiga
?????????????????????????? D:
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>>8097021
just bland 1girl standing shit
like the loli posts in this thread
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>>8097021
it was around the time when people started get bans for "generic anime girl with medium breasts"
this whole vow was, if i remember correctly, in thread when somebody got ban for Nagatoro
but back then, many different anons were spamming, now it's just one person and one resident shizo is blaming every loli poster
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>>8097027
Any maths whizz here who can put 2 and 2 together?
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>>8097026
As an Amifag I enjoy her loooking this retarded, but does the typo matter? Most tags tend to work still if they're close enough.
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Is a minute 11 good for 40 steps of euler a?
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>>8097033
you didn't specify resolution
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>>8097034
Right sorry. 1080x1280
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>>8097033
takes me 9 seconds.
drop down to 30 steps, i couldn't imagine waiting that long for ponyslop. you're better off seed hunting at lower steps and committing to it after you find a decent pose. unfortunate that generating at lower res (512x768) on XL doesn't really work. with 1.5 is was much more tolerable on low-end thanks to the speed buff
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>>8096875
as a concept it works about the same as it does on nai except it distorts the face more often and requires more gacha for the right angle
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>>8097037
Damn what kind of hardware do you have to get those speeds?
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>>8096915
what's her name and where are the on-model images
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>>8097043
4090
it wasn't worth it
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>>8097044
Reiko Shindo, from Kakyuusei.

https://exhentai.org/s/35da359e36/260225-187
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>>8096993
Your hags don't get yous because the smell of their eggs gone bad is off-putting. Try generating normal girls instead of throwing hissy fits about cunny.
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>>8096999
Reminds me of when news outlets dig into the private life of a mass shooter. That's exactly what he wants.
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>>8097050
uh oh pedo melty...
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>>8097046
not him but im averaging about 3it/s on amd with zluda on 7900 XTX, and it goes up to 9-11it/s if you use deepcache on comfyui, but i cant find any simple way to integrate that into webui without raping the whole setup.
a 4090 is not worth it in my eyes, nor is the stress and bullshit on amd's best offerings for consumers (and dont get me wrong, if i had 4k to drop id get a W7900 for that 48gb vram) but i just cannot justify that either. but on the assumption some magic solution appears like olive and onnx working with sdxl you could see 4090 comparable results on a 7900 XTX which is definitely ridiculous
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Why don't cunny posters just move to Jordach's new board since no one wants them anywhere and b is a cesspoot? It's a no brainer
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>>8097059
>cesspoot
Pool
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this general seems to be physically incapable of shutting their mouth
think something break rules? report and move on
but nah, have to start malding
someone always will eventually get mad no matter how stupid and obvious the baits are, no matter the theme, cunny, consoles, hashes, cascade, nai
that's how you get groidspammers and other thread-ruining schizos
i can already see this shithole reverting back to its former state after a good week
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>>8097059
>Jordach's new board
wait, it wasn't a shitpost?
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>>8096945
Sorry, but could you be more specific? Did you use controlnet? img2img? Some lora or addon in particular?
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>>8097054
>nogen
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>>8097064
do you really want his hag or shota shit?
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>>8097068
yes
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>>8097062
https://board.spectrometer.art/nsfw/index.html
adios loliposters
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maybe cathag groidspammer could move there to post his animals, would feel right at home among other animals
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>>8097076
I keep getting an error saying I have too much melanin to post.
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>>8097083
based
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I have spent way too much time on this thing, but it mostly does what I want it to without disrupting composition too much (for better and for worse).
Many lessons have been learned in the process.
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>>8097047
that site stopped working for me at some point and i can't be bothered with it again, but i had some elf cgs and looked up more stuff
the gacha art is just sad, why the fuck does she have a completely different eye color?
i was googling her name and someone seems to have a made a lora already for 1.5 and pony, they look messy but it's something i guess
https://civitai.com/models/318536?modelVersionId=462391

anyway she has a decent amount of art, isn't there a way to upscale the original cgs/sprites? there's also that elf all-stars datsuijan game, one image of her i found from it looks really good. if the scat images are good aside from the scat, you could inpaint it out, feel free to catbox the good ones and i could remove the shit with nai (unless it's 50% of the image lol)

the main reason i was asking cause i wanted to mess around with inpainting trick and vibe transfer, you could probably use that as a way to add extra images to the dataset if you were willing to put up with a lot of gacha and do some work on the decent images to clean them up, but at that point you could do that with the existing loras too
heres all the results
https://files.catbox.moe/62wacj.zip
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>>8097114
Don't inpaint it out, just use masked loss. It's less work, and it won't learn any weird stuff from your inpaint job.
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>>8097004
No but it is technically done in an anime style. Regardless, Azula is too fucking hot, so I don't care.
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>>8097118
azula sucks. come back when you have better taste
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>>8097004
characters don't matter for the rule, it's just style
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>>8097102
what about this variant
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fkb8ieekbbvgvbc/Balls_Deep_V2UltraLite_1720689723_1720689732_dim4_sv_fro_dp0.92_1720689805.safetensors/file

Works at 2x
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>>8097119
She does more than suck.
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>>8097122
does she sneed?
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is there way to gen on local girls with very slight amount of chub, without changing proportions?
i mean something like this https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/119478939
she looks squishy but not fat
tried different tags like chubby, belly, etc. with different weights and fat, wide hips, thick tights and so on in negs, but it always distorts and newer looks good
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>>8097123
Not with peasants.
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Is it true /hdg/sisters? Did he really mog us?
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kuro.. https://files.catbox.moe/fcqk5r.png
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>>8097129
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>>8096609
Sign up for NAI $25 tier and type "nsfw, 1girl, konata izumi, lucky star, completely nude"

t.
NAI shill
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>>8097121
Neat. But v14 has better training data.
Did kohya add saving as fp8 or did you hack that in yourself?
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>>8096618
read
>>8097136
and realise it's THAT easy. You localfags are utterly miserable sore losers.
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>>8097142
this
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>>8097136
Sorry, it should be: nsfw, 1girl, izumi konata, lucky star, completely nude
Japanese name order and all that. But it works either way.

https://files.catbox.moe/na37jc.png
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>>8097125
bet
https://files.catbox.moe/fjxrmu.png
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>>8097141
run it against v14 if you want:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/llqnx8gblsj42qa/block_weight_lora_copy.py/file

I added some comments, used in sd-scripts.
For your lora I stripped it, saved as fp16, resized it then saved as fp8.

FP8 saving is practically free for 0.5x'ing your filesize but for some users it can break compat.
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>>8097145
I guess it's better than fire
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>majority of nai babbys have spent around 600 dollars on a garbage service that generates a blurry smeared mess
grim
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Can't we all just get along?
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>>8097150
This general can't. Spiteposting got ingrained into its identity at this point. You'll have an easier time if you either accept it or let it go.
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>>8097150
nah, all it takes is a single meltie
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>>8097150
I just get really annoyed when people insult NAIv3 its so much better than local. Yes Ive spent upward of 1400 dollars on upscales and inpainting but its honestly worth it
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forge fork anon, if you're here
do you think it would be possible to implement new lycoris? or a1111 and forge implementations are too different and only original creator would know how to?
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/issues/838
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>>8097145
God damn!
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>>8097157
hell yeah samefag sister
nai is way too good
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Why is local so much better than NAI? How can a multi-million dollar company with a 1024 H200 core weave cluster get mogged by some mentally ill bronie?
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>>8097161
listen up chuddie the future is SaaS so just subscribe NOW!!
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>>8096851
>But here's her album too
Where!?
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I actually would use both if they added crypto payments. Got all this fake internet money that's easier to spend and not have to pay taxes off of it. How does fucking Nutaku manage it and not these guys?
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uh oh hes going to go down the thread replying to every nai post now...
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>>8097161
Astraliteheart/Purple-smart is just that good. The amount of poses, angles and consistency currently possible with local is just nuts. With IC-light NAI even lost the advantage in lighting. We'll proably see the first completely locally generated doujins at C104 this year.
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>>8097161
>mogged by some mentally ill bronie
what does he do? serious question
just good math and programming skills?
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>>8097165
How will us sissies respond to this transgression?
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>>8097161
Pony would be perfect if loras worked well but it always keeps that weird western furry slop artstyle no matter what lora you use.
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>>8097026
Might be the reason she didn't work without the toradora!
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>>8097150
its literally one schizo falseflagging to ruin thread
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>>8097173
lmao thats pretty sad. how could anyone hate nai? its only 25 a month
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXd1UDFBDg
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>>8097176
I MISS BANANAPHONEPOSTER
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>>8097144
Some more Konatas.
https://files.catbox.moe/ny4sl9.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r11q23.png
https://files.catbox.moe/2fwk1m.png
You can find the prompts with this: https://novelai.net/inspect
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>>8097180
Thank you! Why are they so blurry though, can you fix this?
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>>8097169
Skill issue
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>>8097181
I think you need to clean your glasses, shitposter-kun.
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>>8097180
based
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>>8097181
Oooops sorry, the blur is because of NAI.
Gave it an img2img pass through AutismMix, is that better?
https://files.catbox.moe/v42yen.png
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>>8097183
I appreciate the gens but they have a "melted" look. Just wondering if this can be fixed. Specially around the eyes and nipples
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>>8097185
uh oh nai melty...
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>>8097186
Maybe, but please point out the exact location of blur first.
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>>8097182
>Still a year until the second part of the remake makes it to pc
I'll be 30 when they release the third part
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>nai gens are blurry
nai's awesome, like offensively good
the webui over it is not very fun to use, I'd go as far as saying that their bootleg inpainting is objectively worse than local, but you can get pretty good, sharp results out of it with inpainting, or even without.
https://files.catbox.moe/148i18.jpg
dumb meme. local for heart, nai for cock. reject subscription models (if you want to) and embrace results no matter which model they came from.
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>>8097145
I cant believe this is working
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>>8097190
can you stop feeding schizo
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>>8097190
this so much this!
we should just start posting dall-e images of princess peach
f*ck local...
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"nai melted" faggot is the same person as pedo images complainer AND also the melanin spammer
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>>8097169
It's doable. Drop score tags, leaving one at most if you have to. Or prompt an innate anime-looking artist at low strength, like aaaa \(quad-a\)
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>>8097193
I'm local for sure, but I'm also not delusional enough to think that a platform is bad because it's not perfect for me.
I just don't permanently mald over not having things play out exactly how I want.
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>>8097167
Just picking the right dataset and having enough compute.
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if you hate nai you should just die
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>>8097193
If you can make them /h/, sure...
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>>8097199
only results matter sweaty...
dall-e has the best prompt comprehension thats all we should be using
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>>8097190
It's literally nonsense that the thread schizo spams to be an annoying pest.
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>>8097201
if you seriously think nai can achieve the same clean lines as local you are delusional
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>>8097200
>only results matter
Yeah.
>dall-e has the best prompt comprehension
It does.
>thats all we should be using
If it could do hentai, sure. It can't though.
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>>8097203
majority of nai posts are just 1girl not doing a sex act
dall-e can do that so lets just all use dall-e
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>clean lines as local
that's not a bait
it's a whole fishing pole
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>>8097102
Damn, I need to revisit all the pose in my wildcard to check which one can benefit from your lora
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>>8097200
Evenif it weren't censored its prompt comprehension would fail at sex. There just aren't any well-captioned datasets for porn. Not even tags like we have, much less natural language. And you can't have AI tag it, because again you'd have to train one on captioned porn first.
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>>8097206
nai is not blurry or melted or smeared. stop lying,stop lying,stop lying,stop lying,stop lying,stop lying
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>>8097206
local lines are much cleaner and less blurry
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>>8097190
i was going to reply to your inpainting comparison but thinking about it gave me a headache
i'll just say, there's no point comparing the two in that regard, just stop
>local for heart, nai for cock
it's the opposite for me
nai = soulful happiness fuel
local (pony) = fap material
although 1.5 is also soulful, in its own way
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>>8097210
local lines are whatever you want them to be, thanks to loras
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>>8097211
you replied just to say you didn't want to formulate a reply?
anon, this isn't a conversation, this is a dismissal
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>>8097212
Good morning, bluvoll sir
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did shuten anon's posts cause the meltdown?
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>>8097194
Nobody is complaining about pedos, as long as they catbox their mental illness. That being said, they have been getting uppity in this thread again. Might be time for another purge
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>>8097212
>>8094908
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Lets all sub to niji journey its LITERALLY the best anime model
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>>8097216
you just did, naimeltfaggot
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>>8097216
>Might be time for another purge
Waiting for your batch to finish, good sir.
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>>8097219
uh oh theres more than 1 person who hates nai
is your worldview about to come crashing down?
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>>8097218
It literally is the best if it wasn't censored.
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>>8097221
it's literally only (you)
where's your blacked collection, come on
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>>8097216
>Might be time for another purge
>evil lolifags did this, they vowed
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Groidspammer is a pedo, don't let them twist the truth
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>>8097213
>just stop
that was my reply, is it a dismissal? maybe
but seriously
>nai
>fill inpainting, can't change settings, likely uses inpainting model, adheres to the composition, seamless (composition-wise) inpainting, does its best to respect the style of the image, does not let you keep masked content
>local
>multiple inpainting settings, no good inpainting model exists, has controlnet inpainting, high denoise fill inpainting often ruins the composition, does not respect the style of the image, lets you keep masked content
both have things exclusive to them, there's no point in saying one is better than the other
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>>8097061
>>8097002
>i can already see this shithole reverting back to its former state after a good week
yep called it
1600 nogen shitposts incoming
have fun
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Local is free if you don't value your time
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We should have thread challenge where people try to replicate a pose
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just sub to nai
sub to crunchyroll
sub to youtube premium
sub to gamepass
SaaS IS the future
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>>8097233
>just sub to nai
>sub to youtube premium
True
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>>8097232
But no upside down poses or local is immediately out
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Irredeemable
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>>8097228
you forgot
>nai
>blurry and melted and upscale costs anals and doesnt really help
>local
>unlimited upscale + clean or as blurry as you want
;)
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>>8097233
>Hellofresh
>Rent
>Carshare
You will be happy
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>>8097228
we basically agree on everything go figure
the web ui for nai sucks, you can partially mitigate with metachs addon
as for whether or not we should compare, who cares, least important part.
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>>8097233
>sub to nai
yes, because there's no alternative for my gpulet ass
>sub to shit I can pirate
lolmao
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NAI = iPhone
local = Android
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ps5 has no games
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>>8097242
>Implying you can't pirate your blacked gens
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>noballs
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>>8097242
>because there's no alternative for my gpulet ass
Paperspace.
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PONY IS BETTER THEN NAI
Here you go
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>>8097251
melted, blurry, it's actually a nai post lmao
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>>8097251
Alright, we believe you, buddy, now let's get you back to all your friends on /aco/
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>>
We do a little bit of nogenning
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>>8097180
How do these look so much more like her actual design, did you train some custom Lora?
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is it the case that you have to either choose fast gens (forge) or a functional controlnet (a1111) if you want a gui?
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>>8097240
whats the tag for this, belt paizuri doesnt do anything?
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>>8097259
The integrated controlnet works just fine on forge
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>>8097261
bandeau
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>>8097259
you can have both if you use noodles
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>>8097257
It's NAI.
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>>8097266
>>8097257
Nope, it's just AutismMix with the available lora in civitai, check the metadata. You can use base pony as well instead of AutismMix, and it works with the 4th tail 4.0/4.5 as well (4.5 has different quality tags though so can't use that entire prompt).
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>>8097271
>https://files.catbox.moe/ny4sl9.png
>AutismMix
Anon...
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>>8097273
>>8097271
It's actually ebara, stop shilling
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>>8097273
Looks way to yellow for NAI
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>>8097276
it's chimera mix
https://civitai.com/models/549543/chimera
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So much funposting
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very funny people in this thread
i'm gonna cum from laughing
might as well call it comedy general
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>>8097280
>very funny
We just need to add cute and you VILL cum.
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>>8097273
Nevermind I got confused with my last post yesterday
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I checked the Cascade finetune discord to see how long until 3.6b, and whew the average furry is beyond retarded. Not the project creators, but the randoms. They don't understand anything about genning, repeat the same base questions over and over, are more pessimistic than doomposters here and all think SD 1.5 is the way of the future. No wonder Jordach is obsessed with /hdg/ instead, outside of a select few the furry community has a collective single digit IQ. Skimming that chat was as if I were in a room full of jeet Bidens. I don't know what I expected.
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>>8097280
thanks, I let chatgpt write all my funny lines
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>>8097263
perfect thanks
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>>8097284
>He didn't get to know about manni
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>>8097284
Hope you're not including B-chan, queen of /hdg/, in that statement
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>>8097288
When is she coming back bros...
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>>8096582
>Optimizations *NEW*
>https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
>https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837
>https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824
How do I install this stuff?
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>>8097292
just stick to forge if you're vramlet
>P2WHD
true...
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>>8097288
>>8097287
I'm not clicking back there to see who you mean. Some of the furries weren't bumbling idiots but they weren't the majority. I wouldn't be surprised if Jordach started making pure anime focused models, let the furry community keep 1.5
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>>8097296
He needs the e621 dataset anyway
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>>8097288
B-sama*
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>>8097294
I want to try canny controlnet and deforum vieo generation and both of these are fucked on my forge install for some reason (take forever to generate)
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>>8097307
check Forge's dev_upstream_a1111 branch and see if it improves things (other things might break so backup your shit)
its more worth to fuck with it than A1111, loras takes forever to load compared to Forge
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>>8096948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa8dKd4o9ec
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>>8097310
Where is it?
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> That last guy couldn't satisfy me, so I had no choice but to slit his throat.
> Hey, what's with that look? Get your ass over here and fuck me. NOW.
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i gen ghislaine getting spit roasted by monsters and pretend its b. ill do some regular irrumation next to post. shes the type who needs to be put in place.im diamonds already.
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>>8097318
Never stick your dick in crazy
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even 5ch's /hdg/ has been getting flooded by spambots lately (they're posting gore instead of groidshit but same difference)
it's over...
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>>8097325
Time to move to
>https://board.spectrometer.art/

This message was sponsored by meanoldtree™
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>>8097325
Jordach if you have active mods and no groids I'll move to your board
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>>8097332
I thought it was under construction? Can we use it?
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>>8097333
if groidposting is allowed there in any capacity I'm not coming. even if it has its own board or thread, I'm not. it's not worth the crowd it draws in
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>>8097332
Hmmm...?
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if you guys think that moving to a board managed by delusional furries is an acceptable option then by all means go there and never come back
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>>8097325
i don't understand how no one has tried 8ch yet, if you look at the most complaints itt, their rules are perfect, blacked is against the rules and lolis are allowed
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>>8097332
Anon, I don't visit furry websites.
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>>8097343
Can't be worse than the trannys, jews and jeets here. Unless they start trying to force furshit on me why should I care that they're furrys?
>>8097344
It was infested by saars and brazilians and there are too many boards, so no other active user base ever collects and stays.
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>>8097349
good morning meanoldtree
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>>8097344
>8 chan.moe/hdg/
its all boring loli posts
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>>8097347
There arent any furry posts but its dead. If they want an active 4chan user base they need to keep away from furry crap and post hentai.
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if yiff is allowed there in any capacity I'm not coming. even if it has its own board or thread, I'm not. it's not worth the crowd it draws in
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>>8096827
this one is awesome
can you please make more like this?
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Furries and coombrains are unironically better than constantly bitter shitters that reside here now.
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>>8097357
Don't forget we'll have B-sama.
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>>8097352
as opposed to the exciting hag posts here
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>>8097358
B-sama has admin rights on the /lol/ board of meanoldchan
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>>8097164
because they're ran by the same company that runs pornhub
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>>8097332
>Time to move

no posts, well it looks like no one is moving anytime soon
>>
>>
it was a good week anons
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>>8097392
Bro, it's dead anyway, there's no point. Try american hours, at least there's some active posting.
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I stand corrected it might be time to move afterall
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>>8096823
>>8096964
Everytime I try to post a catbox album link I get told it's spam, how do you do it?
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>cascade shills
>pony shills
>wdV shills
>groid spammers
>biden voters
This general has fallen, Euge is our only hope.
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>>8097423
He killed himself due to the pressure. There's no hope.
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What can I do with a 1050ti card until I get a 3060? Is my only option subbing to NAI?
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>>8097425
Play some vidya
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>>8097311
UOOH ToT
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Made a userscript to add NSFW tags and artist tags to NAI's tag suggestions. https://gist.github.com/catboxanon/cfcd89f2838b410d3c5b10ca46e799da
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>>8097356
https://catbox.moe/c/di754c
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>>8097392
Why did Yukari turn black?
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what is this fucking autism lol
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>>8097446
WE NEED A COMPLETE AND TOTAL SHUTDOWN OF JEETS UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON
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>>8097440
Thanks, this uses an older danbooru csv version?
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>>8097456
Nice job.
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Does anyone train with AdamW8bit here? If so can you post your settings? I tried using the settings from the fugtrup lora but unet always blows up for some reason.
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>>8097457
It uses one from 2023 which should be fine since that's gonna be all NAI had trained on at the time. If there's artist names that got renamed or nsfw tags that got aliased just let me know and I can fix them and/or dig into getting more accurate data.
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>>8097459
lol imagine using adamw8bit instead of pagedadamw8bit
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>>8097464
Can you post your settings or am I on /sdg/?
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>>8097467
Fuck off beggar pajeet.
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I remember when /hdg/ used to share prompts just a couple months ago and everyone was discussing training settings and learning from each other. This place has really gone to shit.
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>>8097467
0.0006 UNET/0.00003 TE, batch size 3, cosine with restarts with one restart every 750 or so steps
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>>8097471
>0.0006 Unet
Idk why unet 0.0003 that I'm using now would blow up unet but I guess it's worth a try. What are you optimizer args?
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>>8097470
lol
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>>8097456
this area is wrong
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>>8097473
none
but if your batch size is lower that might be effecting it. idk, other anons have said that they've tried to use these settings and it melts shit too
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>>8097470
it's just one guy, look at the previous thread
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>>8097475
Honestly it just feels like her head is flying.
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>>8097475
The arm is also cursed
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>>8097240
>pic
nice
stealing this idea
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>>8097115
What tab is this on kohya?
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I want to believe in Cascade but the stuff i'm seeing has me confused; does Jordach genuinely believe it's on the same level as pony or is that just shitposting?
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>>8097475
oh damn, that snuck right past me.
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>>8096769
You're not wrong, but few people have $20k just laying around.
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>>8097489
ahhhhhhhh mistress please let me stroke my throbbing worthless cock... mistress my pre is coming out when i see you like this... my queen... seductress... gooning for you
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>>8096633
Are there any guides for model mixing?
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but we all know Lucy is the best
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>>8097489
I've noticed you use token merging on your gens. Do you actually see a speed increase or is it just a remnant.
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>>8097446
Thank you Pajeet-sama, very nice LoRA sir.
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>>8097502
box?
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NAI is so inconsistent
How do you guys get good gens with it? Just reroll 100000 times?
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>>8097483
i don't know, you tell me
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>>8097461
Make sure you got the pubic tattoo -> womb tattoo alias.
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>>8097505
What do you mean?
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>>8097482
no tab
https://rentry.org/d2ckzxmq
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>>8097483
if you havent kept up, jordach apparently filled out some form and got experimental gpus from intel to use on the cloud. instead of training cascade with them, he's debating training XL solely to try and spite astralite's model.
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>>8097509
I feel like 9/10 images I generate are completely unusable.
And I hate NAI's inpainting because it messes up the image even more most of the time.
Even copying other people's prompts I still get bad gens.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
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>>8096692
they all should be in the pony lora repository, in the megas on that same page or on civitai
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>>8097446
link to this?
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>>8097494
I just kinda figured it out myself but, I can make a small guide.

Using Kohya, select Utilities > Lora > Merge LoRA

Here were my settings, pick your base model, select your style LoRA's, and set the strength values. pick save path, one thing I forgot my settings for was the merge precision and save precision settings were, you may need to experiment with them, and select Merge model. I crashed once when I was doing it but I think it was because I messed up the merge precision settings. Keep trying it and it should work.

https://files.catbox.moe/po52hx.png

>>8097501
Sorry whats token merging exactly again? I gen stuff all the time but I don't know what it is.
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>>8097483
we've given up on cascade
waiting for wdV now
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>>8097456
>>8097486
>>8097475
face adetailer mask is very noticeable too, sloppa-kun
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>>8097520
>And I hate NAI's inpainting because it messes up the image even more most of the time.
Make sure you have the overlay original image thing turned on, otherwise it'll really mess things up badly.
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>>8097518
When he comes here he seems to be reasonable but his behavior and actions just make him look like a wackjob.
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>>8097520
Can you catbox a picture? Idk how you get something bad if you copied someone else's NAI prompt.
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>>8097525
wdv is equally dead because, just like jordach, neggles homegrown training code keeps breaking every 3 epochs
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>>8097524
It theoretically increases gen speed but I didn't notice a significant difference when I tried it out. You always have it on though so I thought I'd ask.
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>>8097520
Post something and I will help you
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>>8097524
Thanks a lot.
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>>8097508
Oh, I didn't even realize NAI changed the name of that... it looks like both seem to work though, with pubic tattoo actually behaving better. I don't think there's any changes I need to make in that case, as my script will return the correct Danbooru tag (`pubic tattoo`) when searching for both `pubic tattoo` and `womb tattoo`. I'm not going to bother removing NAI's `womb tattoo` result.
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>>8097531
[citation needed]
wdV is dead because neggles is an adhd zoomer troon who can't keep xer attention on a single project for more than 30 seconds
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>>8097522
https://civitai.com/models/571165/the-mechanist-fortnite-ponyxl
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>>8097464
is it actually doing anything, according to this it only kicks in when u run out of vram
https://huggingface.co/docs/bitsandbytes/main/en/explanations/optimizers
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I can't login to NAI day is ruined AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>8097539
lmao
hes not using a vae apparently? also the sample images are just basic tags and not the word salad he recommends so i dunno what the fuck
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>>8097531
imagine pretraining the model with kohya-ss
lol
lmao
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>>8097544
sdxl doesn't have a vae that shits out dots like this
it's just a trash lora
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>lol
lmao
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>>8097532
Sorry, I'm not more help. I'm on fork anon's version of Forge, and I just run with all the default settings I don't think I've changed it.

I looked in my settings of forge and I found the settings for it and I just have it set to 0.7. I'd say just to play with the setting if you think it would help you.
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>>8097524
pumping
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>>8097543
works on my machine
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>>8096791
catbox?
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>>8097549
That's the one linked in OP right? I didn't notice that much of a speed difference between forge and A1111 so I think I'm probably approaching the limits of my hardware.
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>>8097541
honestly i have no idea. i started using it so long ago that i can't remember why i did in the first place.
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>>8097150
Like this?
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>>8097556
>https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge

No its this version, I don't think you will notice much of a difference with this version either.

Do you have a high end GPU? I'm on a 2070 and I have a huge difference between forge and standard A1111.
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>>8097559
oh i remember why, iirc i either got better it/s or lower vram consumption when using a paged optimizer alongside sdpa than a non paged optimizer or xformers or something. idk if it's actually related to the optimizer or just something weird with bitsandbytes or if it even still matters now.
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>>8097541
Zoomers can't read past the second paragraph, can they?
>Compared to CPU offloading, a paged optimizer has zero overhead if all the memory fits onto the device and only some overhead if some of memory needs to be evicted. For offloading, you usually offload fixed parts of the model and need to off and onload all this memory with each iteration through the model (sometimes twice for both forward and backward pass).
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>>8097443
thank you so much anon
really like this
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>>8097531
No way, making your own trainer leads to bugs???
They should have used kohya that works perfectly and has zero bugs because of perfectly clean code.
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>>8097535
They changed it, because "pubic tattoo" can leak pubic hair.
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>>8097571
more trainers = more good?
everyone's making one these days.
sometimes contributing towards fixing things creates cancerous codebases that really could benefit from a restart.
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i am tired of using loras for characters. give me some basic generic character traits, i want to see where this goes
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>>8097577
I don't understand if you are hating or not on people making their own trainers like OneTrainer, etc.
Besides, wdv wouldn't be able to train using kohya because adding support to it for hardware that they use to train wdv would be harder than making their own trainer from scratch
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>>8097580
large breasts
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Don't you believe in fairies?
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>>8097582
alright good. what else? hair, hair length, eye color, etc etc
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>>8097581
not sure where you got hate from anon
what I'm saying is that when everyone piles on to one codebase, for example A1111, it ends up being functional for all purposes, barely, horrendously bloated at every level
at a certain point, cutting your losses and starting fresh with inspiration from other codebases is highly beneficial
that's not hate right
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>>8097580
Black hair, green eyes, tsurime, eyeliner, bobcut, short hair, black choker
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not a single open source trainer except sgm by stability has cosine edm v-prediction implemented
/thread
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>>8097567
idk what u think it says, but it seems to me that obviously it has no overhead when it doesnt do anything, and has some overhead when u run out of memory and has to offload
what i meant with my question, was that even if people use the paged optimizer, they still probably arent gonna crank the batch size to 128, so there might be no active improvement

>>8097566
i see, guess it might be good for peace of mind anyways to avoid ooms
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>>8097580
one thing I found that works good for me is to find a standard fantasy race that you are into, elf, oni, cat girl, dog girls,dragon girl,bunny girls, and make your own character. I enjoy making new custom characters with random races and hair styles and looks.
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>>8097590
This. Even better when you make a custom character, then setup text gen, and have AI gen pics for you while you're plapping her.
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>>8097590
you have to understand, im not looking for what i want, what i want is already dealt with, i want to see what happens if i work with what others want
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>>8097593
Oh you just want requests?

old west theme, red hair,long hair, large breasts,saloon prostitute outfit.
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>>8097589
It means it doesn't actually do all the operations you request on GPU memory immediately, it only does so if the page of the memory in question is actually being used, you retarded zoomer faggot.
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>>8097594
no not requests, i just wanted basic features since everything i like ive already got on hand, and characters are usually niche for my taste anyway. i just wanted something more generic so with enough character features from you all since that would get the gears in my head turning
i will note down yours though
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>>8097590
catbox?
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>>8097573
I see, you're right. I updated it to only return the tag NAI uses now, but searching for either works. I know `v` and `double v` were renamed too so I added those in. If there's more I'm forgetting let me know.
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I tried to make a more comprehensive and consistent expression chart using base pony: https://files.catbox.moe/nc1eys.png

A lot simply don't do anything, but I feel like it's better to keep them here than let people think their placebo works. I've basically hit the limit of how many x/y/z will let you generate at once
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>>8097560
Can I borrow the girl in the middle
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>>8097597
So you want niche tags to add to custom characters, I think I get it now, I like doing unique hairstyles since there are a lot of different tags possible, like the hair style and you can independently control the bangs and hair intakes and stuff like that, it lets you get some unique stuff.

You could also play with wildcards to create characters to get your creative juices flowing. Ive made a set of wildcards for elves with chatgpt with various elf features that will make random elf girls. It needs some work though.

>>8097598
https://files.catbox.moe/4gbj52.png
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>>8097601
>If there's more I'm forgetting let me know.
https://docs.novelai.net/image/tags.html?highlight=neutral#renamed-tags
those are sfw tags they renamed
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>>8097596
can you explain what you mean step by step with pointing arrows, because i cant see how it can have no overhead if it actively fucks with gpu memory access all the time
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>>8097611
1. You ask to allocate a gorilion yottabytes
2. It allocate anything but says it did <- this is the part you fail to understand
3. You think it allocated a gorillion yottabytes
4. You multiply your tiny matrices, you need about 1MB to do that
5. It allocates 1MB and multiplies the matrices
6. ...
7. Profit?
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>>8097603
They're supposed to be a package deal
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>>8097614
>It allocate
it doesn't allocate
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>>8097606
Thanks, forgot about those. Updated now.
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>>8097560
These don't represent the thread. Not a single female here is nasty, gross or extremely obese. Basically you missed 90% of the thread.
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>>8097620
I don't even see abundance of obese women here except for catto poster.
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>>8097614
ok heres how i think it works
1. you run out of memory on gpu
2. exception is raised which gets caught by the optimizer
3. it moves unused parts of the model to preallocated ram to make space
4. forward/backward pass with needed parts
5. possibly all over again, except it now maybe does it automatically instead of having to run out of vram
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>>8097627
Learn what a virtual memory and memory paging is, kid. If it gets OOMed, it gets OOMed and you can't do anything about it.
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>>7873000
>>8095089
called it. as of one hour ago:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.06723
https://huggingface.co/graph-based-captions
5 paragraph long 'natural language' shit is not the future. being able to properly link objects and subjects and craft scenes with relational trees is, just like the blender and koikatsu. you will write short descriptions/tags for each subnode that form the overall scene
>{GirlA} is walking down the street holding a {Phone}, looking at {GirlB}
>{Phone} is pink with music playing
>{GirlB} is standing on the side of the road. She is wearing a {long white dress C} and has blue cat ears. She is waving at {GirlA} with her {Left Hand}.
>{Left Hand} has long painted nails, alternating between blue and red
{Long white dress C} uses a specific lora to get the exact style dress you want and have it only impact that specific character
>B-but i don't want to do that it's too complicated!!
You will have an LLM layer that takes your prompt and automatically converts it to the graph-based language. This is the future of diffusion.
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>>8097630
>This is the future of diffusion.
This is an ultimate crutch of the whole transformer architecture for diffusion, not future.
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>>8097616
I accept your terms and expect delivery upon payment confirmation
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>>8097630
literally everybody already knew that something like this would be necessary in the future, we're just waiting for a proper implementation
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>>8097629
ok so os gets asked to allocate more memory on gpu and says it cant allocate any more, i dont see a practical difference except arguing semantics
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>>8097630
nodes are shit.
Give me individual layers that can be shifted around on canvas to do things one by one to build out that it can then take and appropriately mesh into a single contiguous scene.
Anything else is garbage.
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>>8097630
>Author names
The exact opposite will be the future
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>>8097647
god bless you anon i forgot about how much I loved this cutie
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>>8097646
Regional prompting already exists
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>>8097647
>that face
>that body
literal perfection
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im bored, should i make a high effort post and just make a 4 page doujin-like piece? i feel like itd be more creative than just mindlessly genning slop
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>>8097647
how pony can even compete with this shit
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>>8097649
>>8097656
>samefagging naigro
you love to see it
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>>8097665
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>>8097664
seriously
lets all sub its only 25 a month!
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>>8097602
>closed eyes
>eyes clearly open
Ok but closed eyes does work though so how much of this is pony being pony and giving you a shitty seed for the prompt?
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>>8097660
do as you wish. if you feel it's worth it go for it
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We already had a nai meltie today, let's save it for tomorrow
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just let me samefag ffs
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>>8097672
At least post gens then
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>>8097673
i don't gen, my 1030 is too old for sdxl
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Any idea how to get shorts or panties_around_leg to gen without it making a second pair? Adding bottomless doesn't seem to do anything.
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>>8097665
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>>8097677
I miss the old NAI days bros... When will v4 come out so they can give us this model?
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>>8097677
holy shit
pony could never
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>>8097677
How dare you stand where he stood?
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>8097677
the blur is so good
i hate local so much
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>>8097681
Depth of field is the one thing pony can do well innately.
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>>8097678
artists tagged removed
furry model focus
100,000 experimental yiff models a day
cluster running for 10 years straight but still cant remove the melt
inpainting and upscale cost increased tenfold
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>>8097678
they haven't even given us v2 a year after v3's release, what makes you think they're ever giving us even a single v3 weight?
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>>8097685
>pony v7
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>>8097678
they didn't gave us v2 despite being a failure
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>>8097688
It can still make more accurate Kagamis out of the box than local models without a lora
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>>8097647
Thanks for the pose idea
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>>8097689
Even Animagine?
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>>8097686
My dried tears anon. I really don't have much left these days. Seriously though what I actually want is what they promised: an explanation for how they unfucked SDXL so rich retards can make their own NAI at home.
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>>8097689
and thats why im crying rn not being able to figure out why the fuck miyuki lora can't produce fucking uniform while kagami and konata loras can
>>8097691
i'd switch to animagine if it was able to produce luckies
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All jokes aside pony has to be a massive thorn in NAIs side. Wonder if they are banking on it being a fluke or if they tried hiring astra at some point and he declined
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>>8097694
Even I know this takes gacha. Even NAI can't do panties around one leg without spawning an extra pair.
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wdv will be better than nai4.
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>>8097699
has there ever been a truer true
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>>8097702
mistress i am gooning
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>>8097702
If you spent all that time genning misaka you'd be the most beloved anon on /h/, but you choose the path of evil
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>>8097697
Didn't get bet approached by someone from SAI? All I remember was everyone seething at this because his model wasn't that good until the confetti merge then autism merge released shortly after.
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>>8097698
now you made me spend my anal
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>only nvidia card i have is an A2000 12g
is it over or is there hope?
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>>8097710
that's even more than a100 holy shit
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>>8097676
This sounds like a prime problem for forge couple
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WAIT was ArtiWaifu trained with tags sorted alphabetically?
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>>8097706
I prefer Mikasa
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>>8097711
its not. its a 70w rtx card which is basically nothing
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>>8097669
That's a fair point and I'm disappointed in myself for not catching that one, but it can also highlight issues with pony's training data in so far as how poorly some concepts are trained. I feel words that do nothing are fairly obvious: every single one reverts to the same very plain expression (the last one of you need a reference for nothing prompted), whereas "closed eyes" still did something, even if it was not the expected result.
I'm going to try and do another one with 4 different seeds to try to give a better range of results, but I am hitting a limit to how much I can reasonably share: this PNG was 220MB before I resized it for cat box and 3 more seeds would likely be 880MB assuming linear growth. I'm also using a 1080ti for generating these, which limits my throughput considerably for what I can generate overnight. If you have something better, I can share the PNG info. I didn't check if it got stripped after resizing.
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>>8097718
sorry, it was a retarded joke
I don't know if quadro have issues with compatibility (most likely doesn't), but 12gb 70w by itself should be enough for genning, although relatively slow
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>>8097721
but is it faster than zluda 7900 XTX is the real question
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>>8097720
They're expressions, not fine details. jpeg is fine.
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>>8097722
We should have a board hardware survey. The old one is quite outdated
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>>8097712
I really hate how forge couple handles global promoting, so I made my own template that takes advantage of dynamic prompt's variables so you don't have to depend on prompt weighting:

```
${global=!score_9, score_8, whatever other quality tags you use}
${global}, first prompt
${global}, second prompt
```

I generally also use a dedicated separator character, but the important bit is that the output is better than writing a global prompt using couple's method and easier to keep your global stuff consistent than writing it multiple times
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>>8097724
I have exceeded JPEGs allowed dimensions already.
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>>8097709
I kneel. I still think you cheated though but my sub expired.
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>>8097733
You need to stack them in multiple rows. This single row thing is uncomfy as fuck.
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>>8097729
What's wrong with the inbuilt global effect?
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>>8097737
That's fair, though I'm not looking forward to opening this in an image editor.
Maybe I can figure out how to get imagemagic to cut it up so I don't have to
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>>8097728
ill gladly do it, not like im doing anything better. i would just need to make sure there is a consistent way to gauge performance, and given the configurations and extensions used this would be really goddamn hard to ensure it is accurate without saying "just do a quick git pull and use this basic prompt, log metrics"

i am a hardware guy so i know approximately what things should or shouldnt be but im also not sure how much it does or doesnt matter
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I have been trying Pony TurboMerge and its pretty good, I get better colors and more dynamic pose than confetti but the colors seems a bit fried but overall good result
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>>8097739
It's weighed. It means in order to use it, it has to manipulate the weights of the regions. It's like using `(score_9, score_8...:0.5) (your prompt:0.5)`. It's hard to visualize with text but if you've ever done conditioning combing in Comfy, you'll understand the pitfalls.
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>>8097743
If you believed this you would have posted a gen.
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>>8097742
I feel like specifying UI and cuda/zluda/rocm should be enough. Everything else has a pretty negligible impact
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>>8097747
Regional prompter had an inbuilt feature for your method, but I never noticed any difference between the two. Got any examples where the weighted version would produce worse results?
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Why does NAI embrace beauty?
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>>8097761
while local worships ugliness?
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>>8097761
>>8097762
Why does pony have unironically better backgrounds in this one?
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>>8097757
right but then you have stuff like deepcache where you can get 3x speed increases depending on the setup. its a little tricky so the more stock, the better
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Hands will forever be my greatest foe.
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wdv please save us...
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>>8097762
I could use these two images to point out how the west now worships decadence and filth over beauty.
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>>8097765
>better = more random melted gibberish
remember to use <more-details-ultra-mix:3> for best of background!!! love from mumbai
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>>8097762
How do you get halos to work without getting the shitty BA version?
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>>8097770
Only good oc since sheepanon left
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>>8097761
>>8097762
if wdv is gonna be outputting NAIv3 tier SFW gens i'd switch immediately
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>>8097777
Not my OC. She has an anime coming up later this year. Noblebright slice of life kind of thing.
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>>8097769
That's something that users can easily turn off. Just make some preset that can be run on all the common setups
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>>8097761
>>8097762
Reweik can do some backgrounds but yeah, no way near to NAI levels
Pic related is reweik with style loras
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>>8097784
What's she from?
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>>8097790
Akuyaku Reijou Tensei Oji-san. Hit or miss for most people, even if it consistently gets best sold Amazon japan manga in winter. For me, it is my love for ojous doing the talking.

Which reminds me that I should be making a Sernia Flameheart lora.
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>>8097759
You know, I'm gonna be real with you. I had a moment of panic where I thought "oh shit, what am I gonna do if I go and test this and the results are completely the opposite," and then I hit generate.

https://files.catbox.moe/xg8h2q.png
https://files.catbox.moe/t2mzaa.png

This is the one using my method. The other one uses the "first line" for global prompt. Seeds are the same
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>>8097790
some genderbending isekai series
that guy gens genderbent guys in almost all of his posts
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>>8097798
Not all. I post plenty of characters, but you couldn't tell because I shuffle style and models all the time.
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>>8097800
i know you also post miku sometimes but what i said is still true
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>>8097800
Devilish.
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>>8097794
Hmm, I usually overlay one big bounding box as the global prompt and never touch the weights. I still think it follows the prompt fairly good
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>>8097801
I won't deny my hyperfixations.
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>>8097798
Is it the one we're the old salaryman oji-san gets reincarnated as a novel ojou-sama?
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>>8097781
it will get close but not fully there, right now the dataset is still cluttered with duplicates and garbage. NAI achieved their soft default style by hand-picking artists and images of high quality and giving them focus in the dataset. boorus are a sea of trash and the best artists have way less uploads than the worst.
if you want an aesthetic and creative model you need to prioritize aesthetic and creative images, which is what pony completely fails to do. this is why i propose using a wallpaper/hires booru and matching md5/histogram as a filter for quality rather than score tags. you then use those images for the aesthetic tune stage or give them higher repeats to outweigh all the junk
the nature of wallpaper boorus already does the quality filtering for you, way better than trying to write some shitty classifier based on user score.
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>>8097762
soul
>>8097761
soulless
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>>8097808
One of several. But it is loosely based on otome games. If it was an actual otome game there would be lots of rape.
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>>8097762
SOMEONE JUST BAKE A NON SHIT LOCAL MODEL ALREADY PONY IS A STRAIGHT DOWNGRADE FROM 1.5 AND IM TIRED OF PRETENDING ITS NOT
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>>8097803
I didn't mess with anything but the global prompt setting. I left the weight default and used the automatic regions. I didn't cherry pick my results, it was the first result I generated and maybe it just happened to be a seed that failed with that way of promoting. But it's always been more consistent for me, so it's what I use.
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>>8097753
I cant its all futa
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>>8097758
perfect chub ratio
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>>8097812
But it's not.
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>>8097793
Oh, I actually read some of the manga before. I should check if there are new chapters.
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>>8097818
>still no local dall-e3
deliver the leak when saar?
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Your new Taimanin
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>>8097812
>t. didn't do shit on 1.5
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>>8097789
How do you like it when compared to autism?
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>>8097815
If you believed this you would have posted a catbox.
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>>8097831
bratbox?
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How long until I can automatically uncensor my ecchi in real time?
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>>8097865
if thats the result I would rather keep it censored
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>>8097868
it's a vagina
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what's a cool non /h/ /e/ artist you think would make an interesting style? im not baking anything on pony because it's shit, but i'm having fun looking through styles and trying to find unique ones i haven't seen before
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>>8097875
I won't tell you because you're not baking, but I did find a couple of neat styles
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>>8097876
you didn't
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>>8097876
ponysloppers don't deserve a bake, and no artist deserves to be dragged through the literal mud that is astralite's sepiashart model. i have come to realize he did artists a favor by pruning their tags, as none of them deserve to be subject to inclusion is such a disgusting bake
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>>8097835
Didn't use autism much tbqh but it felt like it never followed my prompt the way I wanted, neither does reweik but it's more close to it in general
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wildcards are fun
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>>8097883
now is the part where you samefag and mald about blur and jpeg artifacts?
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>>8097875
>>8097883
What model do you bake on then retard?
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>>8097887
it's groidspammer
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>>8097883
it's ok anon, you can just say that you have no idea how to bake a good lora and we'll give you some advice
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>>8097884
I've kept a tab open for reweik since it released but never got around to using it. Might finally pull the plug and try though. Does it play nice with character loras?
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>>8097887
novelai vibe transfer mogs style loras, as does nijijourney styleref
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>>8097890
>Does it play nice with character loras?
No idea, never used any character lora just style loras and pure prompt
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>>8097894
What style lora is that?
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>>8097896
A mix of three at different weights, here is the catbox for them if you are interested
>https://files.catbox.moe/3c13kz.safetensors
>https://files.catbox.moe/tc0nvs.safetensors
>https://files.catbox.moe/okw6rk.safetensors
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>>8097894
nice
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>>8097761
>>8097781
>if wdv is gonna be outputting NAIv3 tier SFW gens i'd switch immediately
There is Trifusion (pic related is something I'm habitually genning with it), but the author of that model received lots of complaints from crybabies that his comfyUI example gens can't be replicated in a1111/forge, decided that his model is shit and removed it from civit. Good luck finding it now if you don't already have it downloaded. Also all his example images with prompts got removed as well, there were a ton of them.
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>>8097912
the retard who made that shitmerge also shilled it here and we laughed at him before
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Pony can be funny at times
That's the exact reason it's better than NAI
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>>8097916
So am I correct to assume that you love pony outputs, but this to you looks like a shitmerge?
Maybe people don't deserve good models, after all most of them are retards...
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Convince me why I should pay 20 dollars for NAI when pony exists
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>>8097925
what do you expect, this entire place is infested with troons, jeets, freetards, and other swarthoid subhumans. the quality went down the absolute toilet after all the good posters moved on and the shitty local sloppers stayed behind. anyone incapable of seeing the sepia is simply a subhuman in my eyes, a pathetic creature who doesn't deserve to use this technology.
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>>8097925
that looks like a 1.5 gen and no, i hate pony as much as anybody else
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>>8097928
you know you can just remove the sepia right?
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>>8097912
the creator said he might reupload it to huggingface and that he deleted it in a rage because he got some shitty outputs
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>>8097930
freetards cant, as evidenced by the localshit in this thread. which is why i view them as subhuman
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>>8097928
all true but why are you posting that while replying to some guy crying about his pony+animagine shitmix not getting attention?
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>>8097932
how is that related?
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Thirdworlders seething cause no gpu and their nai sub is 25% of their salary
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>>8097838
https://files.catbox.moe/qmxg5f.png
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>>8097912
Reupload it here.
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>>8097929
Yes 1.5 had way better backgrounds than pony.
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>>8097929
Anyways, this is my last example from trifusion (hairclip is on the wrong side, but I don't like this image flipped horizontally).
Maybe somebody will get interested, because your ponysloppa is getting tiresome to scroll through bros. If not, well, have fun with your washed out nu-blizzard-tier cartoony backgrounds and /aco/ girls.
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>>8097925
Looks really good to me, but you really should stop feeding trolls.
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>>8097945
you're aware that trifusion is a pony merge, right?
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>>8097945
See you tomorrow, anon
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Miyako is a bad example for Ruby.
How did she ever get custody of the twins?
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>>8097946
He is the one who is trolling though. He came here to show off and then fuck off after he got his (You) quota for the day.
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anyone else think mixes are fucking stupid? looking back, after based64 i cant tell the difference between any of the 1.5 shit, it all looks the same now. based64, anylora, anythingv4.5, meinahentai, counterfeit. i just think "yup, that's 1.5 alright" as it all has that signature look to it.

same with the xl stuff, i can't tell the difference between autism, pony, tponynai, arti, etc it all just blends together into the same shit. ai is just starting to look like ai to me, i think i'm getting bored
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>>8097963
>arti
i'm sorry anon but you should go see an eye doctor
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>>8097963
There's a massive difference between autism and pony though.
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>>8097966
yeah there's a difference between using a lora and not using a lora
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>>8097967
Exactly. That anon really needs to see a doctor.
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>>8097951
What lora for the style?
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>>8097949
I'm still here, just don't want to post more /e/ stuff in /h/ when I can just post in /e/. And the few /h/ gens I have are a bit too loli and will get me banned.
>>8097941
The old link still works from when I asked the guy to reupload his model: https://gofile.io/d/w5UMC3
But I'm using trifusion enhanced which is the same thing but with 2 loras merged in. I really can't be assed to upload it because these services work slow as hell for me.
You can merge the loras in yourself if you want the same model I'm using with this recipe: https://files.catbox.moe/mvftzg.png
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>>8097971
>trifusion enhanced
is it the same as this? https://huggingface.co/realding/trifusion_v10Enhanced
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>>8097963
>ai is just starting to look like ai
And what does ai looks like?
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>>8097972
Well the name is the same at least, so probably yes.
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>>8097973
complete dogshit
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>>8097971
>>8097972
Thanks a lot.
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>>8097975
Stop generating 2.5d slop then
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>today /hdg/ has devolved into:
>Talking about some obscure model that looks like dogshit "trifusion"
>Discussing wether AI art looks like AI, and what AI looks like.
I need to leave this place.
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>>8097978
more like never should've come here
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>>8097885
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>>8097978
I'm so sorry, I know you want people to discuss /aco/ 2.5d hags all day but they just don't seem to be interested in them! It's tough, I get it, but did you know that /h/ is about anime?
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>>8097983
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Is there a specific way to get NAI to generate scenes involving multiple males properly? Listing spitroasting, DP, and even listing multiple actions doesn't seem to properly register.
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>>8097978
It's just 1 schizo who brings up trifusion every now and then because he's butthurt that no one uses his trash model.
The best thing you can do is to just ignore him when you encounted him, he'll get bored and leave after a bit of sperging out.
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>>8097981
*should of
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>>8097948
its nai right?
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>>8097981
My ancestors are smiling at me, anon. Can you say the same?
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>>8097987
2boys, 1girl, nsfw, spitroast, all fours, doggystyle, oral, anal, from side
Something like that has worked for me in the past. Make sure you use an aspect ratio that fits the image.
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pussy in bio
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>>8097988
Hey, there schizos are everywhere.
For example! There's 1 schizo who always brings up that there's 1 schizo for every single topic on /h/.
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>>8097993
When pony was created, no better models could be made, for it was and is the ultimate apex
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>>8097987
Spitroast should be as easy as prompting spit roast and 2 boys etc. DP is hit or miss unfortunately and even when it works it often creates a second anus. Just make sure to prompt what you can see. If spitroast you need to prompt vaginal and fellatio/oral. If DP you need to prompt anal and vaginal.
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>>8097995
Glad NAI finally listened to your prompt. I like this one better too.
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>>8097995
Cute cat on the blackboard.
(fine, the girl is cute too)
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>>8097986
foobs
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Are there photoshop screencaps in the dataset or wtf is this
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>>8098003
art_program_in_frame
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>>8098003
it looks like they didn't crop the dataset correctly and just threw it in there with UI stuff intact
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>randomly get gen that have no lora activated
wtf is this?
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>>8098002
>>8097995
not a bad attempt for a 1.5 model
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>>8098003
I've actually had that shit show up in a few lora trains completely fucking randomly with no real known cause for it. Nothing in the dataset had anything like that and there was nothing in the prompt that should produce it and it wasn't predictable when or where it would happen.
Only explanation is that the lora is fried in a really weird and cursed way.
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>>8098003
that's procreate interface lmao
some artoids upload their wips straight with ui
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Would it be possible for model maker to ask for compute power instead of money?
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>>8098012
You mean share each other's gpus directly instead of asking for money to buy gpus?
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>>8096791
>>8096811
keep up the nice big brown nipples anon
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>>8098013
Yeah, kinda like mining bitcoin for someone else but for model instead if that is even possible, like maybe not 24/24 but if you feel like letting your computer overnight to help or something
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>>8098014
keep these uneo gens coming anon love themso much
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My eye lora worked in one image, then if I just removed a few detail tags with everything else the same, the eye lora would be heavily faded or not visible. These are tags like 'hand under chin', they had nothing to do with the lora. So to get it back my eye lora working correctly I needed to always have some sort of specific pose tag even if it's unrelated to the lora in question. So fucking weird, man.
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>>8098022
what eye lora?
also you can cheat and put all those worthless tag just in adetailer and it should still work
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>>8098017
No, sharing these kinds of workloads between PCs via the net just isn't feasible. The computational overhead to coordinate would be immense
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>>8097925
Both look fine to.
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>>8097912
>>8097945
>>8097925
Bro how do I prompt on this thing? I should have known from .jpg that you were hiding all the important info but I didn't think it would be this bad.
https://files.catbox.moe/8h0t6m.png
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i wouldn't mind subbing if they actually updated their shit every other month or so, but having to wait a full year for updates? local already moves that slow for free
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Wait wait, so it was true or fake that jordach and tree got good Intel hardware?
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>try to install rocm for linux
>keeps bricking the whole os
>find out its some kernel compatibility bullshit
sticking to windows and suffering it is then i suppose
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>>8098026
Yeah thought so
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>>8098033
they got compute credits, not hardware
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>>8098034
what distro and version do u have, that's the first time I've heard about something like that
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>>8098034
AMD specifically states which kernel versions are supported on the rocm documentation page. Massive skill issue on your side
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>>8098037
What's that? Like, GPU time?
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>>8098041
it really is
>>8098039
dont worry about it im sure im not missing much anyway. i legitimately havent seen anyone post a comparison between the two anyway. im mostly just needing to know just how big the gap in performance is for windows zluda vs linux zluda
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>>8098043
pretty much
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is there a lora for this pose? i hated doing this raw
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>>8098045
Zluda was about a third slower on my 6600m and more oom errors since windows doesn't have that fancy Google memory optimisation
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>>8098046
For how much? What's the GPU's he's gonna use and how many of them?
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>>8098051
im working with a 7900 XTX for the record. problem is realistically my setup is less than stellar and im thinkin of making a bootable external device to solve the problem more effectively rather than repeatedly swapping my nvme ssd.
if im currently getting 3it/s on 1024x1024, then i assume id see ~9it/s given what youre telling me?
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What happened to the assisted blowjob lora some anon was baking, was it ever finished?
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>>8098033
I wouldn't call it 'getting hardware', he doesn't physically own it but neither does NAI own theirs. He apparently has access to some intel enterprise cards for a limited time, Intel's idea being to recruit more people into their ecosystem and break into nvidia's market. No idea if this shit will even work for training stablediffusion without an insane amount of code rewriting with all sorts of quirks
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>>8098052
8 hibana gaudi 3 cards, each with 128GB of VRAM
idk for how long
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>>8098057
>$125k
Will these prices ever come down? I swear corpos are trying really hard to price us out of this shit.
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>>8098053
More like 4it/s, but could be more since the xtx is the only consumer card with rocm 6.0 support.
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I'm trying to add a model to adetailer but I can't find on my computer where to put it. None of these pt files exist on my computer but somehow it's using them.
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>>8097969
I notice that your mix yields plump girls without trying.
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>>8098063
box?
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>>8098053
Is your Ssd too small for a dual boot?
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>>8098058
That's not a bad price though, all things considered.
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>>8098062
Have you tried webui/models/adetailer?
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what are some negatives that just work for pony (I'm not buying that it doesn't need negatives)
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>>8098070
yeah, it's an empty folder
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>>8098069
What exactly is being considered? I know 128 vram is a lot but is it really worth the cost of a house?
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>>8098068
my setup is lets just say, not very convenient to deal with
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>prompt 1 girl standing,+the proportion I want
>once I get exactly what I want start prompting sex
>proportion becomes random and retarded
I love it
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>>8098072
muscular female (monochrome should always been in negs though)
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>>8098074
that's the price of 8 of them
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>>8098051
how did it run for you overall? for example rtx 3060 12gbs and google colab t4s run pony from my testing at 1.00-1.31 it/s. I have a RX 6650XT desktop and been looking for comparatively close benchmarks but haven't found anything relevant
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Why is invisible man such a difficult concept
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>>8098065
You are gonna need 2 things. Miqote Anon's model and my character lora. Be warned though, that this a test character lora is based on a loli character named Xi'er from game screenshots. It needs some wrangling to keep it from making 3Dish images.

https://files.catbox.moe/xr186e.png

https://mega.nz/file/79h1SbbL#N7mOdE3WYpKNCbCN1mH125a8Zbwd_yT558pQfYQDw2I
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>>8098074
>>8098079
what this guy said, also compared to nvidia it's cheaper so take it or leave it I guess
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>>8098063
that sounds like a win to me. thanks for posting stuff with my model its fun to see what people here have done with it.
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>>8098083
Likely dataset issue
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>>8098081
1024*1024 was 1.7s/it.
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>>8098057
Soooo... Will jordach save us now? That's enough compute to even finetune SDXL
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>>8098084
>a loli character named Xi'er
Which game? I was actually curious what those glasses were called and figured it might be a character lora.
>It needs some wrangling to keep it from making 3Dish images.
If I may offer some advise, I recommend getting a couple 2d pics in addition to your 3d screencaps to help make it more 2d. 3d in negs also helps but is not required. Pic related. I have about 100 screencaps from the game and about 30 2d fan art and it works fine, of a little bit overtuned to her arms at sides stance.
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>>8098099
if he doesn't let his ego completely cloud his judgement, maybe
he's considering using that hardware for an sdxl finetune already (not cosxl for some reason), but keep in mind that he has an irrational hatred for sdxl so who knows if he'll actually do it
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>>8098102
I wouldnt call it irrational
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>>8098099
that's what he's planning to do anyway apparently. no idea why he doesn't just use it to follow through on cascade like originally planned. maybe he too thinks it's shit? the 3.6b looked decent so idk why he's so determined about xl instead of just baking the fucking model everyone wanted originally
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>>8098103
he was training an 1.5 model as late as march of this year while everybody else was using pony and nai
we all know sdxl has limitations but it's also true that the best anime finetune we've ever had was trained on it
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>>8098101
Genshin Impact. I was playing and figured that I could just take screenshots of her and try my luck. I pretty much did the same with Taoqi, with mixed results.

Xi'er has NO fanart at all. Taoqi does, but I put that limitation on myself to see how the AI would react.
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>>8098108
Forgot my damn image again.
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>>8098007
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forge fork anon here, did some big updates related to cfg_denoiser

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commits/dev_upstream_a1111

Re-added and made work: NMS, Skip early CFG (Ignore negative prompt during early sampling), NGMS all steps, add is_edit_model, skip_uncond, cond_scale. DPM++ 2M CFG++ and a bit more performance to check for nans in unet only once, after all steps have been completed.

Have to fix DDIM/PMS CFG++ but at least the custom schedulers branch has CFG++ as a scheduler.

Hope anons enjoy (if someone uses it)
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>>8098113
if were on your version can we safely run the update.bat to install the update or do we have to do something else now?
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>>8098113
you're doing god's work, anon
by the way, did you notice that people in 5ch have started using your fork?
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>>8097917
What style is this?
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>>8098102
I'll eat my dick WITHOUT SEASONING if he actually delivers something that's better than pony.
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>>8098122
what make you think that pony is that good
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>>8098124
it's unfortunately the best local model by far
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>>8098114
I think there isn't an update.bat right? If you're on a older version, you can do (in the folder)

git pull

then automatically when running the bat/sh it should be updated.

>>8098116
What really? I didn't know, it is related to wikiwiki.jp? Seeing the traffic, a lot seems to come from there.
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>>8098102
Even NAI devs hated working with SDXL and were happy they could unfuck it for v3.
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>>8098125
Yes im not arguing against that, but acting like its unbeatable is nonsense, the guy who made it has no idea what he was doing
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>>8098113
Is that related to the scheduled CFG people were talking about last thread? (not available on forge)
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>>8098106
there is absolutely zero reality where he figures out how nai got such good results. he's a furfag, he will never spend weeks curating anime datasets and aesthetic pruning. even wd likely won't put that much effort in. I still don't know why everyone is talking about xl now as if cascade has been dropped like a hot potato. what was the point?
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>>8098130
It's beatable if you're not delusional about your progress. Alas...
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>>8098109
Nice. I'm actually in the process of making a Taoqi lora but I got sidetracked by Jinhsi's release. She looks really nice with that artist combo too. From my experience it doesn't work with 100% screencaps, which I assume is because pony wasn't trained on anything that looks like that. It does really weird uncanny stuff with the character's face and fucks up the body too. I've been trying to do a whole bunch of loras with game screencaps and it gets really close but doesn't fully grasp it.
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>>8098113
thank you, pulled, but is there something wrong on my end, when click gen i get this error.
also wondering if
>>8097156
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>>8098113
How important is it that I switch to this though?
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>>8098126
oh, you must be pretty new if you haven't heard of 5ch before
5ch (formerly known as 2ch) is the biggest anonymous textboard in japan, which inspired the imageboard 2chan (also known as futaba), from which moot stole the code to make 4chan
5ch is pretty big in general but in particular it's one of the biggest places for discussing imagegen in japan
i don't think wikiwiki.jp has any relation to it but i wouldn't be surprised if some 5ch anon linked your fork there
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>>8098135
>he will never spend weeks curating anime datasets and aesthetic pruning
NAI isn't good because of this though. hey did something to SDXL's architecture itself in order to improve colors and give you true darks etc. There's more to it than an S tier dataset unfortunately.
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>>8098135
>as if cascade has been dropped like a hot potato
no, jordach still thinks cascade is the best architecture for imagegen currently available
the reason he's talking about finetuning xl is purely because of his free intel credits. so why doesn't he use them instead to speed up the cascade bake? apparently because he wants to let the 1b model cook slowly so he can make the necessary adjustments until the TE finishes baking. no idea if that makes sense but it seems to be his current plan
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>>8098089
Cheers, my dude.

>>8098140
It kind of just werks, in an odd way. I just took a couple dozen screenshots and that kinda did the trick.

https://files.catbox.moe/pq5l56.png
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>>8098148
Box in a cat?
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>>8098151
He first needs to make the trainer work properly for the gaudi gpus, and doing that will take some weeks kek
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>>8098151
cosxl i hope at least, not base xl?
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>>8098152
Do you do specific block training or just slapped some training preset in the LORA?
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>>8098140
Jinhsi has plenty of decent loras so dont bother, taoqi lora are all piece of shit
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>>8098157
apparently jordach doesn't like cosxl
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>>8098158
I used a preset that Anon suggested several threads ago for when you have very few images available.
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>>8098152
Well I'm also very autistic about getting at least 90% of the outfit details right. I took like 90 screencaps from cutscenes and AI still didn't get it.
https://files.catbox.moe/ed1nun.png
AI can't do moles well at all.
>>8098162
Not good enough for me unfortunately, especially after I saw how shit the rover and yinlin ones were so I've just been making them all myself. It's good practice anyway.
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>>8098163
Guarantee it's because Neggles is training wdV with it. Gotta be a contrarian after all! The wdV test epochs actually do have proper dynamic range/darks.
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>>8098163
apparently his xl tune is doa then
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>>8098157
I've heard from some people that cosXL is even worse than base SDXL, why would it be worse?
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>>8098163
Why is it that everytime you start shilling for him in here, he's just making the stupidest decisions every time.
>Wasting money on Cascade
>Wasting even more money on base XL finetune instead of cosxl
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>>8098168
You cant expect AI to understand outfit details, the current model dont have a good enough accuracy for that, same reason why you cant get illegible text, also dont get me started on the rover and especially yinlin loras because they are all complete garbage
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>>8098113
(me) Okay after some comments and requests, I have decided to rename the repo to: stable-diffusion-webui-reForge. So it is a updated version of Forge with A1111 upstream dev updates (not all of them) plus some other features.

Hope this is not confusing.

>>8098134
I didn't see much of the past thread, but these updates do add scheduled CFG yep.

>>8098142
If you haven't updated since the rebase, I think a better way is to re-clone the repo, since huge changes were there. I can gen just fine (ignore the torch message, that is from nightly 2.5.0)

>>8098143
If forge works fine for your then not needed honestly. It is QoL changes and A1111 changes. Also it may be like, 1% faster than forge, at least I notice on a RTX 4090.

>>8098145
huh TIL. If you use 5ch, can you share the repo with the new name please? (Though if using the old link, it should redirect automatically)
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>>8098168
Outfits are very hard, particularly with these chinese made games with a gajillion accessories. As you can see in these pictures, it gets the gist of Taoqi, but the overall outfit fails inspection.

https://files.catbox.moe/n6bpnr.png

https://files.catbox.moe/ueop1v.png
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>>8098175
nah, i'm not a jordach shill and i agree with both of your points
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>>8098179
Ah and I'm dumb, forgot the new link: https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/
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>>8098175
No anon, you don't understand. We have to keep training Cascade even though it's unproven (and looks even more fried after every partial epoch). Also, it has no community support at all tool wise. I respect the attempt, but i'll still shit on it because they took money kek
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>>8098176
I strongly disagree anon. I haven't seen anyone get the details this well just because they give up too early because they think AI can't do it.
https://files.catbox.moe/achap9.png
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>>8098186
What was your training process? I am intrigued.
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>>8098173
who the fuck knows why somebody said that.
cosxl is just a vpred tune that can actually do colors correctly
god i fucking love base sdxl that adds random light sources to an image where none should exist, and inability to do straight white qnd black colors. looking forward to jordach's next sdxl tune to do exactly that!
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>>8098152
>>8098180
very nice
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WHY ARE THERE NO COMPETENT LOCAL BAKERS. I'D DONATE THOUSANDS TO SOMEONE WHO WOULD BOTHER TO BAKE A REAL ANIME MODEL
AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I HATE IT ALL
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>>8098179
Alright awesome work then i'll try those later on when im not afraid of borking my forge by updating
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How the fuck do I get started making AI shit? I just wanna make porn of Touka Kirishima.
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>>8098186
Color me impressed because they match incredibly well, how flexible are they when it comes to style or body proportion?
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>>8098198
very simple, you need a huge competent team and a fucking ton of money for that, this is not a job for a single big brain. so that's why for-profit corpos exist, for example anlatan.
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>>8098201
Read the OP
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>>8098113
add zluda support
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>>8098094
okay that's actually faster...? weird considering it's amd. you were on linux right?
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>>8098189
I take a bunch of screencaps, at least 50+ from cutscenes in high res 5160x2160 to get them from different angles. Then I go to danbooru to look for 2d shots of her in the same outfit and completely nude and whatever normal outfits people draw her in. Then I even search r34 for completely nudes. I hand pick them to make sure things like earrings, ribbons etc are in the correct spot as a lot of people make that mistake. Then I make a new folder, create a custom tag for the outfit, put the custom tag in all pics where the outfit appears in for both main folder and this sub folder, prune all the tags for the outfit, then move the custom tag to the front. I usually use no more than 1/5 of the images in the dataset. I bake with 10 repeats for the main folder and outfit folder with prodigy for 3-5 epochs. Lowering the lora weight/putting the outfit tag in negs helps remove most of the bleed.
>>8098180
This looks pretty good though but I haven't stared at her outfit for long enough to catch all the quirks.
>>8098202
Fits correctly over any style loras and you can change the body parts, clothes etc.
https://files.catbox.moe/egq7tz.png
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>>8098179
hm... installed reforge from fresh, still got the same error, dunno...
>>8098142
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>>8098209
what is zluda?

>>8098222
Hmm interesting, let me try with a clean installation and see if i can replicate
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>>8098198
If you are smart enough to bake such model you would be already hired by some AI company. Your luck is looking for someone that is already hired by some corpo that lets them use the compute, like wdv with neggles where they have access to even 128xh100 from corpo compute
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>wow I am getting better colors I wonder why
>realize I forgot to remove a completely unrelated fried lora I was testing
>test with and without, barely change the gen but improve the colors at like 0.7 weight
I will never understand ai, https://civitai.com/models/531253/pov-or-viewer-on-leash was this lora btw
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imagine taking screenshots of genshin when mihoyo or whatever company makes the game releases MMD models with the shaders correctly configured
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>>8098226
dont do this to me https://github.com/vosen/ZLUDA
https://github.com/lshqqytiger/stable-diffusion-webui-amdgpu-forge
https://github.com/lshqqytiger/stable-diffusion-webui-amdgpu
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>>8098218
Well very nice job, I can count on one hand the amount of lora for complicated design I saw that actually worked
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>>8098236
I'm certain that it works. I managed to get Eve from stellar blade in like 7 different outfits with most of the details done correctly so I know pony can do it. What it can't do is the actual 3d model. It can't do writing, or moles, or tattoos but it can do most things.
https://files.catbox.moe/40xter.png
https://files.catbox.moe/y53gow.png
https://files.catbox.moe/wrq5wu.png
https://files.catbox.moe/hwex3y.png
https://files.catbox.moe/vhsdft.png
https://files.catbox.moe/zqccxc.png
https://files.catbox.moe/1imtus.png
The lora ended up being a failure because there isn't enough 2d of her in these outfits yet.
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>>8098222
I git cloned and got no issues, but even then the variable name was wrong, pushed a new commit that should work https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/0d6d7ba0374daba9705c5a2d595dc41e3e76eddc

>>8098233
huh interesting, til amd can run cuda or kinda
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>>8098241
Do you post your lora anywhere?
Might want to write up a quick step by step like you did earlier so it can be pinned somewhere
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>>8098242
its been a few months, it was originally for intel arc but they pulled out, and then amd picked it up, and did the same. rip that guy but fuck me was it a banger. it literally got nvidia to rewrite their terms to disallow reverse engineering of cuda shit
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>>8098247
No the Eve lora is delayed until they release a PC version so I can take screencaps with more variance. I might release Rover and Yinlin ones though since those civit ones are just atrocious.
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>>8098179
Anon, can you add support for lycos like this one? Forge doesn't support them, and auto added support at some point.
https://civitai.com/models/312010/4th-tail-lora-extract
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>>8098253
Yeah I would gladly use those rover and yinlin honestly, I completely gave up doing those because I was getting way too annoyed at the result
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>>8098255
https://pixeldrain com/u/gD7vLjMH
https://pixeldrain com/u/ELj1Ep8G
They should be fine from my limited testing but let me know if I fucked up somewhere. The outfit tags should be the folder names in the metadata. Should be "stringsuit" for Yinlin and "mainsuit" for Rover.
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>>8098145
>5ch
Any chance if you know they have their own loras somewhere?
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>>8098113
Would Cascade be possible in Forge if it's updated?
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>>8098242
the commit fixed it, thanks
also bump >>8098254 if that's possible, thank you
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is there a token for shin/knee up? I want just a little more then cowboy shot
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>>8098275
feet out of frame
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>>8098270
Nice it got fixed, about the lyco:
>>8098254
Forge fails there because it has

if len(lora_unmatch) > 12:
print(f'[LORA] LoRA version mismatch for {model_flag}: {filename}')
return model, clip

on /ldm_patched/modules/sd.py

And the extract from the OG model creator somehow has more. I can remove the limit but the effect I think can be weaker. You can try raising the limit to test that lyco if you want.

Also, I have done a lyco extract that should work without issues, same size, here it is:

https://mega.nz/file/MsAlnBhS#o6Up9MmO4qyNOdt1YXD90PSBeU6SL9b_lXblECklfMk

>>8098268
I guess it depends if it's implemented on A1111 or something similar.
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>>8098113
Have you perhaps already added no normalization in prompts weightening on your fork?
For example 4thtail >>8098254 relies very heavily on this, without it the artists will just take full effect even when give like (:0) weight. There is already setting in forge, but it doesn't seem to work for me when setting it to "no norm", doesn't work with the old extension to fix that either, but works fine on the latest a111 dev.
Is it something wrong with my forge or is it really just broken?
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>>8098266
Not them but they tend to upload onto random megas or huggingfaces
https://huggingface.co/datasets/mokyu2106/iroiro_data/tree/main
https://mega.nz/folder/wDs2WCRB#F_LT9gLaGAWos7A4ZPIclw
You can also search through their threads.
https://ai-art.blog.jp/
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>>8098278
cool, thanks
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>>8098282
I should have fixed "No norm" in the fork. I use at least without issues, but if you find still doesn't work please tell me.
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>>8098284
>use the outline loras at -4
Nai has been achieved
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>>8098266
i don't think they have a separate lora repository, for the most part they either post them to civitai or post them on megas that close in 24 hours so only the thread regulars can use them (which is pretty silly)
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>>8098263
Thank you very much, i'll give them a spin tomorrow and delete those polluting my lora folder while im at it
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>>8098284
Hey thanks. Look up nashikone in huggingface if you haven't done that yet. He got ton of good loras.

>>8098293
yeah, I'm just looking for their megas somewhere.
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>>8098285
bleeds "feet" very often though
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>>8098286
I haven't tried your fork yet, my forge is just a mess with so many manual editing, that I couldn't even remember what was edited, since illya guy just dropped it and disappeared, I will do a fresh install with existing venv a little later, dora support and soft inpainting fix is already there? It's something very easy to add, since there was ready to go pr's for them.
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>>8098301
they usually don't post the megas outside the threads, again so only the regulars can use them. they even post exclusive model merges for the thread users sometimes
and yeah nashikone has some good stuff
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>>8098306
Yeap, dora and soft inpaing is there.

Well basically it has (that comes from my memory):

- Scheduler Selection
- DoRA Support
- Small Performance Optimizations (based on small tests on txt2img, it is a bit faster than Forge on a RTX 4090 and SDXL)
- Refiner bugfixes
- Optimized cache
- Soft Inpainting
- Multiple checkpoints loaded at the same time
- DPM++ 2M CFG++
- NMS (Negative Guidance minimum sigma all steps)
- Skip Early CFG (Ignore negative prompt during early sampling)
- NGMS all steps
- Fixed png_info for API
- Fixed built-in controlnet not accepting ControlMode/Resizemode as int
- Restored forge custom tree-view for loras, instead of the A1111 one
- More Upscalers: COMPACT, GRL, OmniSR, SPAN, and SRFormer and fixes from https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/14794

And a lot more I forgor
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>>8098279
>4.5 lyco extract
thank you, very cool
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>>8097146
https://litter.catbox.moe/jwmaev.jpg
I fell down a rabbit hole of block weights and micro-optimizations, but I think it was worth it. Thanks.
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>>8098151
then why doesn't he use this new hardware to spitball rapid experiments on the 1b so we can finally get the godmodel 3.6b that was fucking promised months ago? why the fuck is he wasting time with baseXL (not even cosXL) when the whole idea of cascade fundraising was to move past shitty XL (which everyone agrees is a pain to train) and try something new? it's just so fucking baffling how there seems to be a divine intervention preventing local from ever actually being good. months of begging for donos only to not even use them. getting blessed with hardware and then trying to dance around finishing cascade.
just load that fucker up with a ton of training prototypes and let it rip? it should take 2 days max to cook on that hardware. assuming he even has it at all and isn't just fantasizing like he does about his model already being number 1 in the localspace.
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>>8098279
4th creator stated that making extract, while using lycoris scripts somehow retains more information, in comparison to sd-scripts on the same rank btw
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I find it amusing that sometimes it does this
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>>8098301
>Look up nashikone in huggingface if you haven't done that yet.
Did I just download 40 loras? Yes and fuck you man I didnt need all those to test I was already overwhelmed with what I have
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>>8098314
Np, enjoy the extract.

>>8098329
The extract I did was using lycoris directly at least not, so it is a lyco.

Lora extracts are weaker yeah.

Maybe he uses some extra parameters, I do a simple extract with linear_dim and conv_dim.
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>>8098339
You probably don't get it, if you extracted it, using just https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/blob/main/networks/extract_lora_from_models.py with linear and conv layers, that is what I mean about weaker effect with scripts from sd-scripts repo.
He extracting it using new shit from kohaku https://github.com/KohakuBlueleaf/LyCORIS/blob/main/tools/extract_locon.py this is why it is not working with old forge, but it's somehow better for such a huge finetune.
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>>8098351
No I know, I extracted using https://github.com/KohakuBlueleaf/LyCORIS/blob/main/tools/extract_locon.py

py .\extract_locon.py --is_sdxl --safetensors --mode fixed --linear_dim 212 --conv_dim 212 'ponyDiffusionV6XL.safetensors' '4thTailAnimeHentai_v045.safetensors' '4th_tail_v0.4.5_lyco_extract_212dim' --device cuda

That's how I did it.
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>>8098206
Thanks for posting my old pictures anon. I didn't think anyone saved them.
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>>8098355
Oh, okay, than it's probably really the problem with some args I guess. Unfortunately, I don't know the args he was using for it
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>>8098357
nta but im pretty sure I have some too
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>>8098360
Nice. Brings back good memories.
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>>8098360
This one looks familiar. Is this pony?
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>>8098301
>>8098284
Thanks for the links bros, there's a lot of loras I can put to use here.
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>>8098371
Yeah, it's a mix of 2 loras I made using AutismMix.
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>want to prompt Lisa from doa
>not recognized by the model
>go to civitai to check for a lora
>no lora
Im actually quite surprised honestly, I would not have expected anyone from this series to not work
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>>8098380
https://civitai.com/models/454857/doa5lr-style-characters-costumes-for-pony
there's this
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>>8098380
Just request it to novowels. He made most of DOA loras already.
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>>8098387
i like how it's called style-characters because pony is completely fucking incapable of not baking the style into the character
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>test run of shark girl lora to check style bleed from the mmd model has already surpassed every civit version in quality
wow that's crazy
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>>8098387
Uh, not sure about this one, i dont think its even worth trying it out but thanks
>>8098388
Good idea thanks
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>>8098390
no it's because this dude specifically learned the lora on in-game screenshots, no 2d fanarts
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>>8098391
I mean thats quite the low benchmark, there is like 2 passable and the rest is garbage
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>>8098377
What did you use for the background?
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>>8098392
catbox for this please? (if it wasn't made in NAI)
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>>8098414
https://files.catbox.moe/jx16yp.png
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>>8098414
not nai, you can tell by the face and stress-whitening on the breasts and elbow. local loves to add random gloss-shine to things for no reason
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>>8098415
thank you
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>>8098416
I love the gloss, sometimes I even prompt shiny skin
Maybe I ate too much slop
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>>8098402
I can't find the original gen to check and confirm but I'm pretty sure it was CoMix BGXL V1.
https://civitai.com/models/319451?modelVersionId=358231
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i have decided to make a small 4 page comic and along the way realized i can finally make the autistic wholesome thing that's been in my head for the last few years
i hope to share some clearly unskilled but high effort content soon
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>>8098422
Ahh okay thank you.
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>>8098424
Dont post about things you havent released yet or you will get complacent because your brain will take the attention you get as a reward without actually doing anything
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>>8098426
you dont understand i am determined
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>Made a giant ass picture
>Original IRL concept was a way bigger ass

I'm a tittyguy, what's gotten into me?
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>>8098428
im not saying you wont do it but thats still true for a lot of things in life
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>>8098429
american website
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>>8098430
the payoff to me will be if i follow through with what i claim. my one regret is i have no idea how to fill all the gaps without a fuckload of inpainting
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>>8098395
well yea that was kind of my point
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>>8098228
probably has a noise offset.
using a lora with, ideally, pyramidal noise offset is how you actually fix base pony's color issue.
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>>8098452
is there a proper just pyramid noise offset lora for pony?
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>>8098443
Rebecca could do this and David still wouldn't get the hint. Poor girl.
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>>8098453
not really? it's not something you can just do without actually specifically training a style, character or concept or something.
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hmm
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>>8098466
Cute and based
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Looks like the rentrys haven't been updated for months, where do I find the current lora training meta?
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So is the WD 1.4 tagger still good or is there something better these days?
Completely unrelated to this anon >>8098469
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Is there a way to specify like a temporary output location on Forge? Like say I have a main one, but I'm working on a project and want to output to another one for that project for the current session, is there a setting or something I can check to be like, "yo, shit these out here for the time being".
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the "anime screencap, source_anime" tags are so good in pony. is there any other tags that make it look like a real anime?
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Just posted new version of Confetti. Same place as always. https://civitai.com/models/184813/animeconfettitunexl

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>>8098175
>Wasting even more money on base XL finetune instead of cosxl
ntayrt (I am the actual shill anon), but there is no money being spent on the xl finetune (if they end up doing that), the intel hardware is free. I also don't see why they'd bother with cosxl, at least with sdxl we'd get existing tool compatibility. cosxl is just another risk with little improvement over sdxl. they've already gambled with cascade, there is no proof cosxl is even any good outside of that it can do darks/lights, which cascade would already cover..
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>>8097963
>after based64 i cant tell the difference between any of the 1.5 shit
that's because you barely used 1.5 or you're just retarded
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>>8098490
pic rel
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>>8098083
>yamalgage
isn't it supposed to be yangmalgage
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>>8098433
box please
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>>8098494
Spelling it wrong weirdly works better in a mix than adding a bunch more brackets. Same kind of thing with the year tag
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>>8098481
Is the confetti comrade mix from ages ago?
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>>8098471
WD works, although I use swinv2
>>8098469
What exactly do you want to know?
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>>8098469
I was in a similar situation a couple weeks ago and the lora stuff still generally seems up to date, but if you want to try advanced stuff (which I didn't) you'd have to search the archives for relevant words since I don't know any of that stuff. You can also search archives for "toml" or "json" to see the presets that people have shared and that will generally also contain information that they've said. I tried a whole bunch of them but ended up with the simple and primative AdamW setup with nothing fancy like warmups or weird samplers or anything like that.
But, it seems to be that every use case is different so maybe yours would benefit from that that complicated stuff that HAS NO EXPLANATION ANYWHERE
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>>8098506
>>8098507
Well to start there's these two civit guides.
https://civitai.com/articles/138/making-a-lora-is-like-baking-a-cake
https://civitai.com/articles/3105/essential-to-advanced-guide-to-training-a-lora
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any reliable way to squish my booby lolis when they get too long?
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>>8098510
try height lora from here i guess
https://mega.nz/folder/wDs2WCRB#F_LT9gLaGAWos7A4ZPIclw/folder/BeVH3TDA
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>>8098501
interesting, i see
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>>8097781
you can get something similar with non-pony models and the right artist mix / style loras
post some examples of what you mean by "NAIv3 tier" here or on edg and lemme see what I can do

>>8097789
lemme guess
deadnoodles, fdy, ciloranko, pottsness, ?
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>>8098514
>fdy, ciloranko, pottsness,
Just those, yes
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>>8098519
Completely adult girl btw.
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>>8098505
Yeah, AFAIK the comrade and autism mixes used a really old version.
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>>8098471
Ideally a spoonfed preset, but what about pony specific stuff like are people including score tags these days? Is tags+natural language a meme?
>>8098509
good guide, wish it SDXL based though
>>8098507
share preset?
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>>8098522
Like I said, what exactly do you want to know? Those guides have a bunch of useful info that still applies. The main thing with SDXL was just settings. Do people really put natural language in their dataset captions? Never even heard of that meme. Don't put score_9 in your captions.
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>>8098192
good artists and gen
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>>8098522
natural language is a joke, just us WD tagger v2. natural language will NEVER be relevant unless the base model is trained with it. pony doesn't have enough images in the dataset to teach it an entire relational language. don't use score tags either. also make sure to prune meta-tags like translation_request and such.
search TOML in the archives for presets, people shared a ton earlier this year. i don't have any on hand after i realized pony is shit and stopped baking until better slop drops
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Sometimes you prompt stuff but then you get different stuff and you change course.
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>>8098524
>>8098529
I guess not then. Last time I was here people were arguing about whether 64dim/alpha was bloat and some anon was training without tags, but I guess that didn't catch on. Was hoping for some consensus on settings but I'll check the archive.
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>>8098522
>share preset?
Sure, but like I said it's extremely generic. https://files.catbox.moe/z1i12p.toml
I really don't know if it's efficient or good or anything, it simply looked the best from my testing after running LORA training for a solid week. I had about 150 source images.
The only thing I do special that might be different from how people do it normally today is that I have 2 folders, one with great images and one with simply good images that are there to add more variety. The great folders are set to repeat 10 times and the good are 4 times, but I really don't know what kind of effect it has. It's simply how I learned to do things a long time ago before I came back to this for XL recently.
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>>8098533
Those retards didn't even try training with natural language captions, why are you so eager to listen to them? Also there are v3 taggers which are better.
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>>8098533
you'd unironically do better going to civitai, trying out some loras, and messaging the 1/100 baker who manages to make a lora that feels just perfect. ask them for the settings (some even provide it already on the page). the problem during the baking days was people would spout all types of nonsensical shit with nothing to back it up. you have to keep in mind how fried peoples eyes are here, some of the most rancid garbage gets shared where you'd question what the fuck they were thinking genning such trash. plenty of the rentry loras are complete underbaked ass but their bakers would happily claim that they work perfectly.
you should only be copying settings from someone who provides images to back up what they say.
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>>8098510
full body, barefoot in positive and changing res closer to 1:1
>>8098514
>and the right artist mix / style loras
that's the problem, i don't have another 500gb to spare on loras and lora cope is becoming ridiculous at this point
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>>8098510
shortstack tag works. Just weight it low unless you want to go full gobbo.
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lmao
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>>8098549
chibi works too and has different side effects
something to experiment with
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>>8098121
Sorry for the late reply.
It's a mix of opossumachine, hero neisan and boingoo, but mostly opossumachine.
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>>8097970
It's not a lora, it's artiwaifudiffusion.
The same artist tags as >>8098553
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>>8098553
>>8098554
EUGE PLEASE ARTI V2
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>8098556
I still can't tell if this is part of the thread schizo's tactics or if someone legitimately is this blind
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>>8098420
nice. is that an aura lora?
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meds
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feds
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>>8097917
box please?
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>>8098033
>Intel hardware
lmao
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Is Pat Gelsinger a lolicon?
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Why do people get so upset whenever you mention a model that isn't some pony slop mix?
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>>8098576
Of course not. Rich people screw actual children, not fap to cartoons.
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>>8098556
Arti is probably the best local model right now for simple prompts.
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>>8098582
>melted literally everything
>indecipherable hands
such quality
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>>8098582
Shit is extremely raw and ugly to look at, I will never understand this.
>>8098571
Don't really see the issue there, I hope Intel starts making headway in AI so we can be free of Nvidia's tyranny.
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>>8098558
It looks SO fucking awful right? Where's the sepia? Where is the heckin detailed shading like on my mistresses' gens?! I fucking love pony, who could ever want something else?
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>>8098588
I want something else but I'm not blind, try again.
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>>8098567
How did this guy make Ghost in the Shell.
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i now get it, shitters here hates eastern styles and thinks everything that doesn't have 15cm lines is melted
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love watching local tards seethe in squalor. you had a year to catch up yet did absolutely nothing. now you're left with nothing but trash. you deserve it for bringing abyssorangemix2 into the world. none of you deserve a good model, and none of you will ever get one.
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>>8098592
can you just go back to groidspamming, you're so tiresome
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>>8098593
We have autismmix, retard.
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>>8098594
The groidspammer quit because queen of /hdg/ b-sama said she doesn't like it. Bait posting is all he has left.
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>>8097761
Soul
>>8097762
Soulless
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All memeing aside, arti looks 100000x better to me than any pony mixes.
It actually looks like a drawing instead of something computer generated.
I will never understand /hdg/s obsession with accuracy and details, those things don't make for an aethetically pleasing image.
You guys are like /ic/, trying to draw everything in 3D and as anatomically accurate as possible, not realising that good looking images are rarely anatomically accurate.
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>>8098593
All I see is a bunch of nogens larping.
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>>8098598
Arti looks like aislop with burnt saturation (yes pony is sepia slop but Arti is on the other side of the bad spectrum). Not to mention the retarded amount of steps you need to use to generate an image because of how fucked up the bake is. There is a reason the creator ran from his own failure.
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>>8098598
>It actually looks like a drawing instead of something computer generated
>posts something with anatomy so fucked it can only belong to AI
>with hair melting into the head and obvious eye melt
can you just fuck off already
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>>8098598
I think it's the reason why localturds are dissatisfied with NAI when they try it. They just can't stand anything other than pony brainrot.
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>>8098599
need immediate box STAT, this looks 1.5 good in style
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>>8098598
>I will never understand /hdg/s obsession with accuracy and details, those things don't make for an aethetically pleasing image.
professional deformation
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>>8098596
can b- please come decree she hates arti, too? I thought we were past this.
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>>8098605
just lookup banpai akira on civitai, nothing special about it
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>>8097972
>>8097972
>>8097912
Any more gens? Is it only good as sfw?
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>>8098604
NAI is good, but it not being local makes it a non-option.
So arti is the only option left unless you want stiff looking 2.5d ponyslop.
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>7900 xtx
>stock settings, ~2.79-3it/s
>auto undervolt, ~2.84-3it/s
>auto core oc, ~2.88-3it/s
>auto preset rage oc, ~2.89-3it/s
>didnt even bother with quiet or balanced doesnt matter
>manual 13% undervolt, +10% oc vram, +15% power limit, ~3.13it/s
>manual 10% undervolt, +15% oc vram, +15% power limit, +10% max core freq, ~3.25it/s, but keeps running into runtime errors
>manual 10% undervolt, +10% oc vram, +15% power limit, +10% max core freq, ~3.25it/s, errors gone
>+20% oc vram, +15% power limit, +25% max core freq, crash
>manual 15% undervolt, +20% oc vram, +15% power limit, +25% max core freq, crash
i know many of you dont give a fuck but jesus christ amd is suffering for this but its nice to see i can get a slight more bit out of it
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>>8098620
Diffusion is GPU-bound, just so you know. VRAM clocks ain't much of an issue.
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>>8098623
its also better on linux and i need to migrate to it but i dont feel like doing so without a portable nvme drive to do so. once i get that it shouldnt be a big deal but until then its what i got
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>>8098622
nice
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>>8098620
That's not so bad. My 3090 gives me 3.6it/s max and i usually have it limited to 3it/s
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>>8098636
keep in mind a 7900 xtx is equivalent to a 4080. if you shunt mod it its around a 4090, but im not ready to shunt mod it
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>>8098617
fuck not this retard again, did you not get enough trolling in when sharti released? spare the general we're finally recovering from the spammer
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>>8098650
I'm hoping if we all ignore him he'll fuck off again.
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No pony criticism.
Do not slight pony.
Do not ever offer any models other than pony.
If you do, you must be a schizo troll baiter spammer shill. You must be crazy to not like pony, it's so fucking good and beautiful, and you can even bake amazing loras that make pony look better than human-made art.
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>>8098654
fuck off cunt ill do whatever i damm well please
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inb4 he starts trying to shill his retarded refiner bullshit again
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>>8098655
Might as well use that base 1.5 and bake a lora for it.
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>>8098655
>all the same astratroon shit with some jeetslop mixed in
what did he mean by this
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>>8098659
havent cleared out the garbage yet, figured id do that when i get bored this week
>>8098658
on it king
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>Post some arti gens
>The whole thread gets derailed
Why are you people like this?
Is it really that bad that some people are trying different models?
Pony is good, don't get me wrong, but it also gets extremely stale after a while. How you guys have not gotten bored of pony yet is beyond me.
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>>8098661
People here are extremely defensive of their model of choice for some reason.
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>>8098661
the thread is full of faggots who prefer bickering like women to actually discussing the thread topic
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bros has cascade DEFEATED pony yet? or is it another 6 months
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>>8098661
>say stupid shit
>get called a retard
>be surprised your shit got called out and blame everyone else for
fuck off already faget.
use whatever the fuck you want. just don't make up some dumb bullshit narrative to justify being 'speshul.'
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>Pony is bad
>Posts some /e/ tier 1girl standing image of some kohaku tier shitmix
You can discuss your softcore models literally anywhere else
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Whatever happened to heart of apple?
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>>8098669
It sucked so we moved back to the waiting room for freedom from pony jeetmixes
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>>8098661
This has always been the case.
Anons ITT latch on to whatever is the popular model at the time and refuse to even hear about anything else.
It happened with 1.5 as well, back when pony and animagine came out, the anons here hated even mentioning pony lmao.
Now pony is the popular model and the cycle continues.
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>>8098668
See for yourself https://anti-mass.spectrometer.lol
Don't gen too much, that's the same 3090 the current epoch is cooking on
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>>8098673
>Don't gen too much, that's the same 3090 the current epoch is cooking on
i thought that was jordaAAACCK's personal 3090
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>>8098675
He's committed to continuously slowing down the training and hardware so he can better monitor it. He bought the raspberry Pi for e10 already.
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>>8098677
as a raspberry pi owner, whatever you do, dont look at the prices for those shits
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>>8098678
>less than $100
ok?
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>>8098679
not for the good model
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i'm no anatomy expert but i think something is fucked
well whatever
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>>8098673
What the fuck does this have to do with anything?
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>>8098683
this made me puke in my throat a little
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>>8098687
sounds delicious
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>>8098685
replied to the wrong one, was meant for >>8098665
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>>8098604
>localturds are dissatisfied with NAI when they try it
But are they actually?
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>>8098683
In terms of anatomy, only the breasts look bad.
The real issue is just the pose. It looks unnatural.
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There is a reason any professional AI work is done on local and with comfy, just saying.
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>>8098694
You really are pulling a
>but muh REAL studios use 3d Max! None of that free Blender bs.
but with AI.
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>WHEN NAI V3 LEAK?!?!?
>Model that can do pretty much everything that NAI can do gets released
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT MORE PONY SLOPPPPP
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>8098694
Akshually, Mattel is using Midjourney.
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>>8098694
What the fuck are you talking about? We're making hentai AI images here you fucking retard.
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>>8098694
what ai work? making low quality stock pics?
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>>8098694
>professional
>/hdg/
pick one

when im not on the clock im a professional shithead and retard. we are easily the most professional ai related general next to /trash/.
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>changing the number of sampling steps completely changes composition in the early steps
????
Has this always been true or is my Forge bricked? Euler A 18 steps and Euler A 28 steps with the same seed are literally two different images.
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>>8098714
What do you think schedulers are for chud
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>>8098717
Why would the first 6 steps produce completely different results just because I adjust the maximum?
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https://civitai.com/models/472174/pixel-mix
This model is incredibly good at generating few flaws, compared to autismmix. (You don't need to make pixel art with it)

Although it could be that the embeddings I use just play nice with it.
Positive: score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, score_5_up, score_4_up, zPDXLxxx, BREAK, <rest of prompt>
Negative: zPDXL-neg, zPDXLxxx-neg
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>>8098719
Good morning, ElArgine Sir
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>>8098718
Sampling Schedule: The diffusion process involves a schedule that determines how noise is added and removed over a series of steps. Changing the total number of steps alters this schedule. Even if the initial conditions and other settings remain the same, the distribution of noise and the subsequent denoising process will differ based on the number of steps.
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>>8098591
motokos juicy robutt
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>>8098719
>>8098722
For me? It's Based ElArgine Xir.
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>30°C indoors
that's enough AI for today
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>Controlnet anytest
>Spent over 3 weeks mulling over local auto rigging solution with blender for posing models.
>It doesn't fucking work, blender is beyond my skill level
>Fuck it, i'll try Adobe mixamo free service.
>Posing models works right away.

Gives me conniptions... I can only pray something better locally comes along in case Mixamo gets shut down.
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>>8098737
I'm going to impregnate you
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Has anyone experimented with negpip on pony already? It definitely can change the style a lot.
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>>8098737
that's why i put off resubbing to nai until summer
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>>8098738
What about cascadeur?
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>>8098743

I need another model to adjust the head size to anime proportion for cascadeur. That was how I went down the blender rabbit hole. What a shithole it was.
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>>8098745
Designdoll?
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>>8098655
holy fuckeng JEET
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>>8098746

Huh. Interesting. However, that is another potentially useless program to learn. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
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>>8098751
It's pretty intuitive, but the results with animagine are meh. Wish we had a real openpose
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>>8098752
*anitest
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>>8098452
Interesting, guess its a good workaround for that but still kinda weird to use a random lora for that
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>>8098757
ideally you just find a style lora you actually like made by someone who knows what the fuck they're doing and has it baked right in.
or you figure out how to do shit on your own and do it yourself.
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>>8098758
Do you have any lora like that in mind? I think the floox lora was kinda doing that since In was getting better colors when using it
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>>8098758
But who bakes good loras? It's really hard to tell, since a lot of good bakers are awful prompters. Like bluvoll makes solid loras but his example prompts look like someone fished them out of the ganges
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>>8098761
If someone can't prompt, I can't trust them to make good loras lmao
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DAMN BRAT UOOOOOHHHHH
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>>8098761
his loras are fucking awful
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>>8098763
based
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>>8098761
Nope, that means he has no eye for good aesthetics, good composition, good images in general -> can't bake good loras because he is blind.
No matter how good your settings are you have to judge the outputs with a good eye. If you don't have that, don't bake fucking loras you retard.
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>>8098759
I make all my own shit but I'm also stuck in a perpetual loop of doing weird experimental shit and stick pretty rigidly to certain types of artists and I have a lot of stuff I need to update/redo. Also my mega is a bit of a cluttered mess.
mega for reference
https://mega.nz/folder/FiUlmbaY#THGdabflbUDLMXffz_febQ
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>>8098762
>>8098764
>>8098766
Alright, maybe he can't bake either but who can?
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>>8098763
proof?
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Tried this a year ago but gave up because I failed at generating gangbangs. Is it better now?
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>>8098758
Will your picture get fucked if you use 2 loras with noise offset?
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i needa watch some anime to find some big tittied girls to gen
all my wives are boomettes
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>>8098767
Oh yeah I already had that kasa and tkmiz loras, the dowman look pretty cool too
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instead of a lora how hard is it to just add artists to a ponymix? are the compute requirements just out of reach for the average person?
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anons, which kohya_ss version are you using? mine produces mustard gas and burns without learning anything, despite using same config as before
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>>8098561
I do use one but it's not necessary to make them. It just helps guarantee the scales and stuff are more detailed.

https://civitai.com/models/460142/au-ra-dragon-girl-final-fantasy-xiv-pony
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>>8098661
I laugh every time someone mentions Arti in a good light and in the next hour or so the thread schizo appears and starts showing his bleeding ass off. He's either unironically has some mental issues or is a troll.
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>>8098785
i use the dev branch with whatever PRs i'm interested merged in
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>>8098794
>has some mental issues or is a troll
that's the same thing, "trolling" is 99% of the time "im retarded, wait i was only pretending"
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gacha was pretty good, just needed to remove the other penises
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>>8098799
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is there fp8 in easy training scripts? can't find it anywhere
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>>8098800
The shape on colour similarity of her tongue and the glans make it look like the dick gets mirrored in her mouth
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>>8098811
nice au ra
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I'm the only good lora baker here.
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>>8098811
Nice lizard
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>>8098822
hi nochekaiser
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>>8098826
i miss his old profile pic
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Krillin's a lucky dude
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>>8098829
>nai
perish
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it's heart of apple
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>>8098840
Background is too shitty to be NAI.
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>>8098843
>>8098840
it's wasabi mix 山葵Mix
https://civitai.com/models/539827?modelVersionId=600155
>>8098839
this is nai
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>>8098829
missed the opportunity to have the dick under the pokeball and shooting cum through the center
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>>8098604
Im dissatisfied with NAI because inpainting is practically useless. I can only cross my fingers and hope it gens what I want, not ideal specially if any decent res costs money. If they fix it I will give it a fair go.
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>>8098847
based retard
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>>8098847
Surely you can install a single extension on webui then? I end up using their way of inpainting (infill) more often though, it's less effort
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>>8098851
We dont sign our posts here
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You know, I'm something of a basedman myself
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>>8098845
that looks nothing like wasabi mix, did you reply to the wrong post?
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>>8098835
Same, was that him but AI'fied?
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>>8098839
You mean Roshi.
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>>8098862
idk, but why else somebody would use photo of some sea dude
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i can't tell if i like or hate ishikei's newer style. the repaints he does are fine but sometimes i wonder if the guy has a brain tumor with how weird the anatomy and faces get
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>kohya_ss
>outputs mustard gas regardless of settings
>switches to easy training scripts
>>Error caught was: No module named 'triton'
>pip install triton
>>ERROR: No matching distribution found for triton
someone please make a good base model already jesus christ
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>>8098892
easy training scripts is kohya ss
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>Can't even tell the difference between NAI and local anymore
It's over, NAIsisters
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>>8098895
which commit you can recommend then? i've only pulled thanks to new GPU and every baked lora was shit ever since
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judging by how fast the interest in imagegen falls off even with crazy leaps, I feel like even if we get the ultimate dalle5 trainable local model the interest would eventually fade in like 5 months
the tech we already have all considered is fucking crazy but people are too bored to even treat it as a cumrag
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>>8098897
idk, whatever. triton not being installed is also fine and expected, it's a linux specific distro. there is a windows version but it's bad
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>>8098898
nah
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>>8098898
i'd use it for sovl luckies generator
>>8098899
wouldn't be crying about it here if it let me start training
>idk, whatever.
its over
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>>8098902
>i'd use it for sovl luckies generator
You can do that even with current tech
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>>8098902
that's not what's stopping you
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>>8098898
Based
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>>8098908
it requires character lora for each luckie + hundreds of style loras to escape base style, tech is here but not for local
don't talk about NAI unless you wanna give me an api key
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>>8098918
so what's stopping you from training the character and style loras
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just train a lora retard
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>>8098921
because im sick of having exactly the same dataset and tag structure with exactly the same config resulting in completely different results, kona and kagami looks good while tsukasa and miyuki are producing mustard gas and not even learning their unfirom
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>>8098598
>I will never understand /hdg/s obsession with accuracy and details, those things don't make for an aethetically pleasing image.
You had me until this part. Your images don't look that bad but if you really think having good anatomy is not required then I now understand why artfags hate us so much. Why do we have to pick and choose? Why can't it be both? Also I have a 4090 but I'm not interesting in genning at 60 steps for a basic pic.
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>>8098918
Yeah it's not smooth sail for local now but it is what it is. Hey, at least you get a bigger sense of accomplishment if you bake a good lora of your waifu, just genning can get pretty boring.
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>>8098622
This must have been a lot of work.
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>>8098927
>Also I have a 4090 but I'm not interesting in genning at 60 steps for a basic pic.
this is so weird to me
are you guys just sitting with a dick throbbing in your hand and can't wait for 4 more seconds it takes on a fucking 4090?
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>>8098928
>if you bake a good lora
there are no good loras and im not baking one because noone knows how to bake them in first place
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>>8098930
>can't wait for 4 more seconds
Eh you're exaggerating but the actual salient point is that once you get at 20 secs with hires fix you can't go back to 1min+. I've been testing out different samplers lately and 30 steps DPM++ 2S takes 40 seconds which is so much more painful than the 20 secs Euler I'm used to. If I had to double the steps and wait even longer I'd kill myelf.
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>>8098926
If they all have the same uniform, have you thought of training it separately?
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>>8098927
I only have a 3080 and genning with 50+ steps takes maybe 5 seconds longer compared to ~30 steps.
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>>8098926
i'm sorry anon but tsukasa and miyuki's designs are extremely simple and if you're having problems with them you must be doing something wrong
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>>8098931
this
ive been making loras for 4 months and have learned nothing since the tech is so schizo
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>>8098935
that's what im fucking saying, it all started after unavoidable git pulling and i don't remember safe commit
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More Miqote anon's model testing.

>>8098726
Erection, but also disappointment.
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>>8098931
>there are no good loras
nai is not perfect at replicating character features either and fixating at baking a *perfect* lora will make you go crazy. just inpaint bro.
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A 26 year old man used the git pull command, this is what happened to his forge install
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he pulled?
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>>8098661
This anon >>8098672 is completely correct. Before autism mix came out people were desperately trying to pull anons from NAI by claiming base pony was amazing when they knew deep down it wasn't. Once something better came out it was like they were suddenly allowed to criticize pony and everyone ripped it to shreds. It's essentially don't shit where you eat. However, there's still a lot of truth to anon's criticisms. I'm very eager to try out new models but after trying out trifusion, I finally realized why anons were shitting on that guy so hard. The model sucks and the shill knows that, which is why he was hiding his prompts and cherry picking his gens to make it seem better than it is. Then when you ask for help he evaporates. Many such cases in the history of /hdg/ and gatekeeping works. It was like the fights we used to have here when everyone started SDXL lora baking. I used to make long blog posts filled with pictures which people would ignore, then retards with no gens would later on start telling me I was wrong. It was so bad it turned many people away from lora baking. I'll say it again, gatekeeping works, especially when the shill has no/bad gens to back it up.
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>>8098933
im """learning""" training with singular chars before baking character pack, kagami and konata (plus their merge) baked good but tsukasa and miyuki are awful for no reason
>>8098943
>and fixating at baking a *perfect* lora will make you go crazy
if lora can produce two-striped pink uniform and recognizable features of each char (especially eyes) i'd call it a day, and it isn't happening atm
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>>8098931
You dont need a perfect lora, a good one will do the job just fine and at worst you just correct the few mistake
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>>8098947
the meme that pony only works because autism anon figured out the perfect loras to merge with it might be one of the dumbest recurring jokes of this general
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https://files.catbox.moe/0m96kj.png
https://files.catbox.moe/hg5uui.png
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>>8098950
Here we go again. As if I haven't seen the putrid garbage pony shits out generally and with the style and character loras I trained directly on it. It's so bad it tempts me to train on the mix itself so I'm closer to the style/character. I don't care what you have to say anon you're just trolling.
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There's no way this tech will grow any stronger than DE3. DE3-tier hentai model would not be bad by itself, but it still wouldn't be able to come up with original characters and struggle with unknown stuff. The next step would be to make the actual artists use the tech, which would require ditching transformers and LLMs.
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>>8098949
>talking about good lora
>mentioning perfect lora out of thin air
i just want it to produce passable t2i result before photoshop, less work required from me - the better
>>8098954
based
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>>8098953
>>8098954
perish in hell nai sissy
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>>8098955
>and with the style and character loras I trained directly on it
i'm sorry you had to learn about it this way anon but if your style loras don't work with base pony then they're absolute garbage
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>>8098955
ive tried a few times to train on a mix and training on base generally gave me better results
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>>8098947
>which is why he was hiding his prompts and cherry picking his gens to make it seem better than it is. Then when you ask for help he evaporates
???
How did I miss it?
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don't say there's no tool to convert toml to kohya_ss config
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>>8098960
(You)
>>8098962
Oh I'm very well aware. I made a long blog post, with pictures, about why you shouldn't train on autism mix back in the day but no one read it and later on told me I was wrong. Every other anon here is a troll unfortunately.
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>>8098960
lmao
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why is local so fucking ugly and nai so fucking good?
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>>8098965
which is why everybody trains on autism now, right?
seems like you're not as important as you think yourself to be
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newfag here.
How do you guys see the metadata/prompts of the images you've previously generated using the local forge ui?
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>>8098941
how do you like it?
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>>8098972
it's fucking garbage
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>>8098964
There is but I wont tell you because it's obvious. Also, kohya also accepts toml.
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>>8098969
>important
lol
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>>8098954
>>8098953
very cute!
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>>8098974
would be better to not post anything if you don't wanna help
>kohya also accepts toml
no
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>>8098976
very samefag
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>>8098943
>nai is not perfect at replicating character features
That's very true, it sometimes makes three instead of two white stripes on Lucky Star school uniforms, in some places, and sometimes Kona's mole is on the wrong side or missing.
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>>8098766
I thought the story was that despite /hdg/ dunking on him, when they actually used the lora it was very good. He might be blind and put shit sample pictures but somehow the loras all still worked fine.
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>>8098979
>no
Yes, you're just confirming that you are retarded.
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>>8098982
Pretty much. It makes it passable for further inpainting but the details are usually off, especially with asymmetrical features. Which is fine by me btw, I don't expect perfect txt2img from current tech.
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last. bye

>>8098957
>>8098976
thx
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>>8098990
holy shit moar, so cute.
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>>8098987
so you could just say where is it instead of acting like an astracookie
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>>8098970
there's an add-on you can download that you can upload the image to... I started using faggot comfy to test new archs and have forgotten what it's called, but if you go through the list forge gives you of possible add-on installs it should be there somewhere
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>>8098995
Whatever are you talking about?
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>>8098987
Nta but it only accepts toml in its own format, it won't accept easy scripts tomls which is likely what he's trying to use
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>>8098972
Plump girls/10

Juuuuuust the right amount of chub.
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>>8098898
You and I both know that if NAI v3 leaked today people would be up all night for the next year training mixes, teaching people, and generally putting out Toki-tier art for the next couple years. The issue has always been that we don't have a good base model.
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>>8098972
I was wondering for model where you just slap loras onto it, do you get better character lora compability? Like a lot of character loras bring their own style so when I want the style im aiming for I have to play with weight and change or add a few things depending of the character, is it more consistent when its a model?
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>>8098998
im talking about converting easy scripts .toml to kohya ss .json instead of opening it in notepad and inputting values myself, and right now you are failing to tell me where i can convert it
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>>8098940
I could give it a try if you upload your dataset.
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>>8099004
You can... just open easy scripts and click a button.
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>>8099008
click a button to train through easy scripts that gives me
>>Error caught was: No module named 'triton'
and if i try to install it in venv it says
>>ERROR: No matching distribution found for triton
, right? its the reason why i returned to kohya
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>>8099001
loras can do everything
base models don't even really make a fucking difference, perish in hell fucking naishill
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>>8098928
To me the sense of accomplishment is baking a lora with an obscure waifu, since no one would ever draw her under normal circumstances.
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>>8099000
it is really good for plump girls, one thing I found that works really well with my model is this lora, add the tag shiny skin to your prompt and set the strength to 0.4. I also recommend renaming it since its in moonrunes so you can type it easier.

https://civitai.com/models/481765

>>8099002
Idk what you are trying to say but my model works pretty well with character loras, I can show some examples.
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>>8099011
horrible falseflag
apply yourself
naigro-melty/10
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>>8099009
Nope, you can just click a button in easy scripts to do exactly what you asked me for. Hint: the button is in the menu.
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>>8099016
but it's true, the answer always is just to train a heckin lora!!!
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its another reason why lora training suck ass, every sane baker left months ago during melanin-rich male spammer ravaging thread and remaining people here are shitbakers like me, gatekeeping nogen trolls and shitty civitai guides with cropping advices
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>>8099018
(And never use it ever again after you tested it)
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>>8099001
Arti is about on par with NAI when it comes to SFW gens.
It just lacks complex NSFW stuff.
Yet it hasn't really taken off at all, not here nor in the SFW generals.
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>>8099018
still not using refiner sorry
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>>8099009
To be fair I always get this error and it doesn't matter. IRRC triton is a thing for linux users for better optimization but it's not that important.
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>>8099024
>Arti is about on par with NAI when it comes to SFW gens.
It's unfortunately objectively not true though. NAI has better colors, knows characters and styles better. It's still miles ahead of pony in that department though.
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>>8098970
Stealth png info. Retards on here don't use it because they get a rush of dopamine when someone asks for their catbox.
https://github.com/ashen-sensored/sd_webui_stealth_pnginfo
Also use this so you can search for pics easiser.
https://github.com/zanllp/sd-webui-infinite-image-browsing
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>>8099017
>>File
>>Save Toml
>checks "Save as type:"
>only *.toml is available
no it doesn't do what i've asked you, i need .json that could be fed into kohya
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>>8099000
Bro these Taoqi's look great. I'm lora is still baking.
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>>8099002
>>8099014 (me)
I think I have had a better time with the compatibility of loras since making my model, I have less colors being washed out and issues since switching.

here's a eula I did with a character lora as an example.
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>>8099027
kek
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>>8099034
You are terminally ill, anon. You almost found the button, but you obstinately continue to pretend it's not there.
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>>8099035
Sir?
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>>8099032
>knows characters and styles
From my testing of both (to be fair, I've only been subbed to NAI for about 3 weeks now), NAI seems to do certain styles better, certain styles worse.
I agree that NAI's colors overall are better.
Characters I actually think arti does better. Some characters on NAI are just not accurate or require a lot of manhandling to get them at all.
Not to mention that arti has the benefits of LORAs so it can always stay up to date with new characters. Yesterday I tried to gen images of miyako from oshi no ko, and NAI doesn't know that character at all.
Arti knows that character, but there's also a bunch of loras on civit for that character anyway.
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>>8099024
It would if the pics people saw with it were as impressive as NAI. Even the trolls here have to pause when they see a good NAI gen.
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>>8099040
My lora is still baking*
The lora I'm making is still baking*
My bad
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>>8099042
i actually do agree that arti knows some characters and styles better than nai
but the model is so rigid that you can barely do anything with them so what's even the point
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>>8099039
other buttons in "File" are "Load Toml", "Save Runtime Toml", and another menu is "Theme" to change easy scripts theme
don't bother responding unless you provide a screenshot
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>>8099045
Sounds like you are quite baked yourself.
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>>8099046
>but the model is so rigid that you can barely do anything with them so what's even the point
That's fair.
It can do some basic sex stuff but nothing close to NAI or pony unfortunately.
Hopefully we'll get a v2 at some point that could maybe deepen its knowledge a bit when it comes to NSFW stuff.
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>>8099049
Yeah I just woke up.
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>>8099043
It's hard to get good previews if it's only one or two people posting here though.
>>8099042
>I tried to gen images of miyako from oshi no ko, and NAI doesn't know that character at all.
That may be the issue of the dataset cutoff. What I meant is that it knows the characters *better*, not necessarily more of them.
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>loras trained on ai outputs starting to flood civit
>new base models being trained on synthetic slop
local is doomed
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>>8099047
Anon... You just listed the button you starve for.....
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>>8099055
NAI mix style loras are some of the best around though.
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>>8099055
>cascade has a bunch of naiv1 slop in its dataset
it's jordachover
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>>8099056
it saves as .toml but i need .json, easy scripts are incapable of saving as .json
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>>8099059
You have to try better, anon. I already said that .toml is not an issue for kohya scripts.
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>>8099058
>all cascade sample prompts have (by novelai:2)
it never even jordachbegun
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>>8098567
nurse box?
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>>8099061
>.toml is not an issue for kohya scripts
it is an issue because it doesn't do anything when i feed it easy scripts' .toml
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>>8099067
Are you aware that easy scripts launch kohya trainer via .toml?
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>>8099068
of course not because im a GUI-let, and "Load/Save Config file" can only load .json
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>>8099068
Come on anon stop teasing and just tell him if easy scripts can automatically change .toml to .json that's it. A yes or no would suffice. Stop shitting up the thread.
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>>8099071
gave up and just inputted everything by hand, no shit why people hate loratards, noone likes gatekeepers
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>>8099067
those formats are similar enough there should be a converter somewhere
you can also do it manually but it's a lot of work
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which upscalers are people using now?
i used to use something uhh "4x-animesharp"
is that still good or do I use these newfangled DAT upscalers?
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>>8099071
>A yes or no would suffice
Either would technically be incorrect, kek.
>>8099070
Alright, you are so fucking stupid it's not funny anymore. Just pass the .toml files you get via "Save Runtime Toml" with --config_file for config .toml and --dataset_config for dataset .toml
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>>8099078
nomos is overkill unless it's your last pass
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>>8099078
foolhardy remacri never fails and I don't see the difference between it and nomos
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>>8099082
what the heck is a nomos?
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>>8099078
You don't need anything fancier than lanczos.
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>>8099084
>newfangled DAT upscalers
4kNomosDAT
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>>8099080
>>8099075
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>>8099086
naruhodo
I was just going by the names in the A1111 list like DAT x2, etc.
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how do i prompt pose like this? https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/66119934
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>>8099090
just inpaint
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>>8099090
anytest controlnet
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>>8099075
>>8099087
No shit why we still stuck with ponyslop.
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>>8099094
yeah that anon could answer everything in one post instead of trolling, "local is free if you don't value your time" anon from yesterday was right
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>>8099095
We still have niceposters but you gotta wait a few hours for a reply
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>>8099085
>>8099089
>>8099086
>>8099084
>>8099082
>>8099083
nmkdSiaxCX_200k
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>>8098969
It's not about importance, it's that I spent a bunch of time doing a thing and took the time to explain my process and results so newfags don't have to waste time also. But, as always, there will be some retard that comes to obfuscate and derail just for fun never, posting any proof since they're here to troll. Last time I was here I was fighting with some nogenerate because I told newfags that monochrome in negs helps with pony's colors. It doesn't matter that it would have taken him 60 secs to confirm himself, he just wanted to shit up the thread. This retarded behavior is the reason why there's no consensus on /hdg/ for lora baking and why newfags would rather go to civit, of all places, to learn than here. It's been like this since pony released.
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>>8099095
It's because noooone of you have the tiniest drop of neither intelligence nor experience nor self-sufficiency, all you can do is scream and while loudly something along the "WHY CAN'T I PUT A SPOON IN MY MOUTH???!!!1"
If you were a bit experienced in software AND self-sufficient, you would have easily guessed from my very first post to you >>8098974 that you don't actually need to convert anything, you just need to feed the right .toml.
If you were a bit intelligent AND self-sufficient, you would have looked through easy scripts code to see the way it handles the "easy scripts" .toml file.
>"local is free if you don't value your time" anon from yesterday was right
So yeah, he was right if he implied that you are an imbecile.
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>>8099105
>he just wanted to shit up the thread.
its true >>8099106
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>>8098545
modern sdxl models know enough artists anon

>>8098622
KEK
nice

>>8098661
hdg loves its tribalism
it was the same with based64 before

>>8098665
picrel is from Cascade, make your own conclusions

>>8098721
interesting style choice

>>8098726
nice dark gens
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good morning b- sir
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Incidentally, I still didn't touch on the fact that he tried to use triton under windows.
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>>8099119
Could you share your cascade gen settings? I tried one gen on jordachs 3090 and the result made me puke a little.
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>>8099122
blame easy scripts, kohya didn't threw this error and allowed me to train
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>>8099124
this is not from Resonance anon
Workflow is tuned in for this model, lemme see what I get with Reso 1st
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https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1e1du27/cloneofsimo_proud_to_finally_showcase_the/
If this cloneofsimo guy is straight and white it could be more than a nothingburger this time
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>>8099133
nobody in the nai team is straight and white though
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>>8099137
That's why it excels at blacked and Tianliang Duohe Fangdongye and fails at everything else
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There should be an NSFW version of this https://zele.st/NovelAI/
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Any clues what kind of workflow/lora model combinations can generate 3d like outputs similar to these? https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=user:etsa My attempts at 3d always end up a bit undetailed or blurred in comparison
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>>8099133
most boring showcase images i've ever seen, can it do wallpapers or girls on grass at least?
>>8099143
of course its blacked
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>>8099144
>most boring showcase images i've ever seen, can it do wallpapers or girls on grass at least?
No clue. I'm just reposting reddit links for engagement. Don't even have comfy installed
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Hey, any amdfags mind helping with training loras? Ive got a 7900xtx and have seen some tremendous improvements in both vram usage and speed since finally getting flash attention working, enough so that I'm feeling adventurous enough to go down the training rabbithole. Anybody had success with training loras on amd?
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>>8099159
Are you still on windows?
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Looks like wdV is a meme/DOA going off of their latest discord posts. Also, idk who said they included danbooru gold images,but neggles purposefully chose not to include them :)
All roads lead back to Jordach, god bless the one true king. Unfortunate it'll take another few months for the 3.6b bake or his XL model, but it is what it is.
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>>8099165
hello jordach :)
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>>8099165
>Not showing even a screenshot of what he's talking about
Nice one schizo
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>>8099154
Is that you Miqo Bro? Cat box please.
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>>8099078
I use 4x_NMKD-Siax_200k. I've used 4x-animesharp and foolhardy remacri and fount NMKD to be better. Test it yourself and see if you like it better.
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>>8099178
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>>8099159
Just a warning anon, if you start training, you won't never leave that hole.
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>>8099180
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>>8099187
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>>8099187
I feel like others have already achieved this goal
last year
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>>8099191
but why?
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DONT WORRY BROS wdV WILL SAVE US ALL I TRUST THE TROON BAKER DO NOT SPREAD FUD
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>>8099187
goal is sd1.5 what?
>>8099191
its wdoVer
jordach won
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>>8099130
okay tried Resonance (epoch 6)
just add some artists and put "artist_name, text, " in neg
picrel is "by deyui, (by omone hokoma agm, by quasarcake:0.8), "
use "5_fingers" for better fingers

other settings:
euler_a, karras, 22 steps
CFG is scheduled between 12 to 6
use 24 compression instead of 32
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JORDACH WINS AGAIN
i told you faggots that waifudiffusion turned into a troon hub. spend one day in their "ai art" channel, it's baffling how they put on this faux-cognitive dissonance acting like horny is bad yet their entire troonoid personality revolves around degenerate sex. just like with astralite, it's all about controlling what YOU are allowed to generate. this is why jordach will win in the end.
EVERYTHING
GOES
IN
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>>8099163
Made the switch from dual booting linux to WSL2 since it got official support, working pretty solid so far.
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>>8099200
WAS THERE EVER ANY DOUBT?
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>>8099191
FUCK YOU BASTARD TRANNY
ALL MY HOMIES HATES TRANNIES
TOTAL TROON DEATH
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>>8099191
Tale as old as time
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my god this thread doesn't knows the definition of loyalty lmao
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Does this pass for anime? or I'm I still in /aco/ territory
Man pony is hard to work with but it's so good at the same time
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>>8099191
jordach-sama, i'm sorry for ever thinking that these troons could ever dethrone you...
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>>8099209
add the gold posts or ACK neggles
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>>8099210
neither, that's 2.5d territory in my book
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>>8099209
loyalty to what? delusional troon bakers? delusional furry bakers? lmao
all i want is a local model baked by somebody who isn't an incompetent retard, is that too much to ask?
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>>8099210
drop score tags, lately I've been using just 5 or 6
then prompt an anime artist from the innate ones/hashed ones or a lora at least
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>>8099042
How many images on Danbooru would you say are needed for Arti to know a character so you can get it with just name and series? For NAI the cutoff seems to be somewhere between 100 and 300 images.
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>>8099191
>cascade is crispy af while not even hitting double digits in epoches
>wdv is another animagine
>only options are /aco/ sepia poison, SD1.5 and owning nothing while being happy with NAI
i understand doomer anons now
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>>8099215
2.5d is /aco/
3d is also /aco/
even photorealistic, that's why they have two AI generals
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>>8099209
orange is the color of my loyalty
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>>8099220
it depends on how complicated the character is, but around 200+ images in my experience
also note that arti actually has a list of how many images of each artist and character are in the dataset, so that would be a better reference for that
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>>8099220
It also depends on when those images were uploaded. Like Frieren characters have a shit ton of uploads now but didn't make the cutoff for NAI v3
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>>8099209
explain your post
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Did newfags really expect something out of Waifu Diffusion? You guys should've learnt your lesson by now.
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Are robots okay?
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>>8099223
based jibun wo
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>>8099231
>he doesnt live by the "its over/we're back" cycle
ngmi
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>>8099221
i told you tards this back in 2022. local is done for because they have no money, and those that do follow goyim rules
wdv will be the better model but will be censored and completely useless for sex
cascade will be complete shit but 'hey at least it's uncensored!'
local will always be a monkey's paw. you will never have an all-around outstanding local model that gives you everything you want. open source is, and always will be, a joke. this has been true since 1980 and will remain true for eternity to come
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>>8099239
Dude just calm down, jordach got big compute time in gaudi 3 gpus and he's considering to finetune SDXL
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>>8099191
based. i'm considering going through and removing the loli content from a style lora i trained. the drop in quality and anatomy is simply not worth it.
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>>8099133
Don't you have to be Jewish or Asian to make this work correctly?
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>>8099237
we'll be barack but it has always been joever for Waifu Diffusion. They literally never made anything good except their tagger I think? kek
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>>8099191
What discord is this. And is this American or EU date lol
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>>8099191
kek, like couple days ago i commented that troon will prune shit out of this model but ofc
>thrust the dilator, he has danbooru gold dataset
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>>8099143
Well if it's AI there's nothing stopping you from grabbing 100 of those pics and making a style lora from that.
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>>8099174
indeed it is.

https://files.catbox.moe/yg11pc.png
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>>8099239
>completely useless for sex
ill happily give up sex for sovl /e/ genning if its gonna be NAI tier, but /h/ local scene is done sadly
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animagine bros, we won
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Astralite won, cant wait for the next pony model to save local again.
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>>8099191
Every. Single. Time. It's always something with these people. Local will forever be fucked.
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>>8099249
yeah, he has it in the same way astralite has the artist tags. rules for thee but not for me. you just know he's including all that shit in his personal bake
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>>8099253
Their trainer is still buggy in TE regards so tey haven't trained it on their own
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>>8099232
I normally see them on /d/, think they're in the same basket as monstergirls. Nice design btw.
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>>8099259
only little boys
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damn, sad day for local
oh well!
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WHERE THE FUCK IS EUGE
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>>8099265
where is her pussy
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>>8099241
>Dude just calm down
I'm still laughing kek. We're fucked anon. I wasn't even a doomposter until this moment. Fuck me man. I swear if I ever become rich I'll come back to hdg and try to improve things. It's definitely gonna take several decades for anything interesting to happen here anyway.
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Interspecies breeding with dark elves
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>>8099262
Didn't know there was anything left on /d/ other than solo futa
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>>8099272
She's a fish
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Isn't Danbooru gold just pedo stuff? Not much is lost when you can't prompt dingling fangshye zangdang
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is there a way to enable fp8 training on easy scripts?
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Jordach i know you're reading this shit, can you just hurry up and start the 3.6b already? it's been 4 fucking months of 1b shitbaking and it's clear it is unusable. just grab the TE as it is, throw it on the new hardware, and run the 3.6b. if it fails, go to XL or something. the 1b is YOUR monkey's paw, it's ugly and shitty and it's time to move on
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>>8099232
Did you prompt robot for this? I've been prompting android but maybe I just need to go full on metallic. I wanted to make a character lora for a girl that looks like this too.
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>>8099281
yes lol
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>>8099232
>>8099262
I like them but I agree with the other guy I think they are more /d/ , there's a good robot lora that a guy made from /d/ that I enjoy.

https://files.catbox.moe/xr2sm6.png
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jordach i know you're reading this
please include b- nudes in the 3.6b bake thank you
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Post the robots here. Post anything as long as it's not that damn cat
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>>8099281
no lol
huge amount of artists with over half their shit behind gold on danbooru
such a garbage website
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B-sama bros, we won
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>>8099268
He likely changed his hobby to a better one, he's not with us anymore, I'm afraid.
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>>8099290
But they are also using sites like gelbooru and pixiv, so those artists are most likely there
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>>8099293
Is this the B-eginning of the cascade arc?
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>>8099295
danbooru gold is based on content not artists, the difference is that gelbooru is a swamp quality wise, i he doesn't want to include it, this means that he is pruning loli shit
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>>8099284
I used this as a base >>>/e/2880423
Android girl is supposed to have a human face I think.
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>>8099295
They said half of there dataset is literally untagged btw.
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>>8099274
>We're fucked anon.
I know, I'm sad too
>I swear if I ever become rich I'll come back to hdg and try to improve things. It's definitely gonna take several decades for anything interesting to happen here anyway.
Bro I would unironically and definitely do the same
I'm so fucking tired about this state of local and I am 100% willing to fully commit to AI development, it's what a loner incel like me must do
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>>8099293
b-sama, we love you
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>>8099287
Tried that one before but it really loves those spine-only torsos, they freak me out.
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>>8099299
>metal skin
This might be it actually, thanks a lot I'll go play with this.
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>>8099288
What if he already has
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>>8098789
thanks! yea the scales and horns came out really nice
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>>8099293
wtf i love cascade now
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>>8099300
Because they have the guy behind the easy training lora UI making their own tagger and pruner still that is not done yet
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Isn't B- basically jordachs discord kitten? Doesn't that make us cucks
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>>8099298
I would be surprised if the corpo neggles works at would even allow that. Or it's either Loki or nsfw
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>>8099309
wtf i love ntr now
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>>8099310
*Loli, stupid auto correct lol
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All of this was posted in March in the WD trooncord
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>>8099293
why they behaving like a cult?
like ofc this isn't about troons but shitting on another retardet baker
>>8099310
how even jordach got his intel stuff without committing to to being good goy
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>>8099309
Are we cucks, or are we cucking Jordachcord? Chicken and the egg dilemma.
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I have been making tifa on and off almost obsessively ever since stable diffusion released
I have a problem.
Anyway, suggest vidya or anime muses (but preferably vidya)
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>>8099317
Troons are gay, B-sama is extremely based.
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>>8099321
>almost obsessively
Just like any wife generators here, don't feel ashamed of that
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>>8099321
same but kagami
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>>8099321
Same but Jalter
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>>8099303
The spine is my fav part I think they look really cool.

https://files.catbox.moe/wtwwyr.png
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>>8099321
2b
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>>8099323
yeah, but their posts on trooncord are like from some coach fake crowd grifters
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>>8099321
Same but Korra.
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>>8099217
>is that too much to ask?
Actually yes thats quite a lot to ask
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i wish to have gay furry charisma and rule over neet sluts and anon paypiggies
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I'd donate to cascade if there was a gacha for B- nudes attached to every donation
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>>8099321
Sir, can do you Tifa paizuri and Tsunade with big bobs please sir
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>>8099342
The thread is healing
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>>8099342
I'm still looking for good coop paizuri prompt, and I think I need to fuck with locational loras or something just don't have the energy to set that up (no idea where to even start)
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>>8099344
indians are coming back to their natural habitat
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>>8099342
based
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>>8099331
What does that mean in English?
>>8099340
JORDACH MAKE IT HAPPEN, WE KNOW YOU'RE READING
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Do you guys think 12GB will still be enough in the future of this or should I aim for 16GB? I'm planning to get a new graphics card and my budget is around 800 murican dollars
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>>8099349
Get a used 3090
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>>8099342
Oh I was wondering where the fuck you been
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batch 1 or 2 for lora training?
>>8099349
you can get 16gb for refinery meme but mostly we'll stagnate for a year or two, 12gb should be enough
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>>8099345
open wide for your spoonfeeding
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>>8099349
as someone with 12GB I frequently wish I had got more, especially if you want to try new models/archs, or train loras on non-fudged settings
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>>8099345
bro coop paizuri is easy to do, the only annoying thing is to get 2 different girls
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>>8099355
Is this forge couple?
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Elf sex
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Slf Eex
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>>8099355
thanks, please spoonfeed a little more and send me the lora, I can't find it
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The main reason I don't trust cascade isn't for the arch, or the 1B training. It's that Jordach keeps ignoring and side stepping around the model faults. Makes me think we aren't going to see future improvements, he sees nothing wrong with the current output.
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>>8099376
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Not bad. I'm surprised it learned the tacet mark so well.
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>>8098994
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>>8099385
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>>8099313
WD deadlines vs Jordach delusions
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>>8099384
B O X
O
X
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>>8099389
I'll give it to jordach, he was right.
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>>8099392
https://novelai.net/inspect
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>decide on a whim to try and go back to batch1 so I can try to use repeats again and also use huber loss
>it actually works and might fix some issues I've been trying to iron out
oh god fucking dammit.
I hate this.
batch1 takes so fucking long to train.

>>8098776
regular plain jane noise offset? Usually yes, things get fucked.
Pyramidal, aka multires noise offset? Not really, no.
The downside of pyramidal is that it tends to obliterate backgrounds. It doesn't make them impossible or anything, it just makes it so you absolutely have to prompt for them - more than you usually would.
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>>8099388
lmaooo
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>>8099397
Rip
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>>8098994
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>>8099384
thanks for the inspiration


>>8099367
no that's regional prompting

>>8099382
https://civitai.com/models/454235/concept-double-bj-paizuri-rimjob-balls-licking-pony
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Thank you anon
I'm guessing the weird tokens are related to regional prompting right, how difficult is it to use?
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Is there any way to speed up tiled vae decoding? 7it/s strikes me mighty slow for a 3090
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>>8099416
tiled is much slower than doing it in one go, if you have the vram for it
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>>8099413
same thing under the hood, just a different UI on top
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Are there any optimizations I can use to speed up generations with comfyui, 3060 12GB?
It's not slow-slow but I often wonder if it could be faster. I tried downloading the RTtensors addon thing and I'm not sure it did anything for me.
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>>8099415
Do you mean ADDCOMM and ADDCOL?

Yeah, they designate the zones, in forge Enable Regional Prompting by selecting Active, and check Use Common prompt, Columns and rows change the zone orientation, you'll be using columns most of the time. set the width and height to be the same dimensions as your image then hit visualize and make a template.

Copy the ADDCOMM and ADDCOL onto your prompt and put each character within the bounds of each template like in my catbox from earlier.

Here's a screenshot so you can see what I have set.

https://files.catbox.moe/uldvqr.png

A bonus thing that's interesting to play with, if you add an extra ,1 to the divide ratio and hit visualize it will add another line to the template to let you do a 3rd character.
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>>8099385
Thats indeed surprising for such a small details, do you have any plan to do changli in the future?
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>>8099191
absolutely based.
>nooo local is done, fucked, toast, zero zilch nada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
lmao cunnyfags kicking screaming & seething
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>>8099432
Yeah when she releases so I can take some sitting screencaps and a couple of those unique poses.
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>>8099438
Nice, will be waiting for it since the loras you shared worked pretty well and the current changli loras are awfull
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>>8099191
Imagine tearing this terribly out of context and censoring the names for (You)s
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>>8099378
catbox please?
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Oh man, surely nothing bad happened to my wife before she was killed
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>>8099438
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/l9ox3kstoa16c/MMD_-_Wuthering_Waves_-_Models
???
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>>8099433
this, that's why i hate NAI
Astralite did the best model on the market and i hope that he will get rid off all problematic concepts completely in next model
as for Neggles, she also has my support in making safe model for all
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>>8099451
So you take your pics from the model directly? I don't know anything about anything so I just take pics from the game itself. Cutscene/game animations are useful because I'm not very creative so I can't think of interesting poses.
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Something that I noticed is that if you want a reverse cowgirl picture, is to put testicles in the negatives. Otherwise the AI will go for the standard cowgirl position.
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>>8099454
You can also find premade poses and animations for 3D models. Since these seem to be MMD, you could just put her in there and load up a dance motion.
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>>8099191
this is fake. nowhere in the WD discord is this said
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>>8099469
white name, it's clearly somewhere else
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>>8099454
if the mmd model has good shaders built into it then i don't see why not, and i think that one does.
you can also download poses or animations that other people have already made. i have a bunch of different sets that i've used before that are just things like different sitting positions
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>>8099470
clearly made up more like
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Guess I've been out of the loop for a bit, what is wdv?
Pony mix? Completely new model?
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>>8099399
>multires noise offset
What settings do you recommend for multires noise? Someone told me that it was bad to use this a while back and I've forgotten my settings.
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>>8099480
nothingburger until released
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>>8099191
LMAO
HE LITERALLY MADE UP THIS SCREENSHOT

The first time wdv was brought up here was 1st july >>8084491
This "screenshot" was prepared 3rd july (assuming he didn't use browser inspector or shit to fake it)

How gullible you are, /hdg/.
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>>8099468
>>8099471
Interesting. Well thanks guys. Using the mmd model will be really helpful for my PGR mods too.
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>>8099485
what is that screenshot supposed to prove other than that you forgot to take your meds
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>>8099485
This one is edited
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>>8099485
>Troon tries to backtrack after /hdg/ laughed at him
Not that it matters either way, wd could be the best model possible and we'll still never see it. Neggles is too busy snorting hrt to ever complete or release anything. Wd has always been cursed.
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>>8099395
Telling the truth, which is that SD is primarily used for R34, tits, ass and seggs - is treasonous when you're up against a cult that worships the NAIv1 leak, and has a dedicated ass thread begging for Anlantan to notice them. They cannot see past their former fiefdom glory. Are they releasing anything? No? Then they should shut the fuck up.
>>8099488
A white username means either that message is from cached history or it's from a private message.
>>to (you) and everyone else in thread
I have the knowledge and know how at this point to use the obscenely fast Intel hardware to produce a potential Reso XL model while I can. Just remember fellas, I can discard the original Stage C Lite and retrain it with the existing text model if I need to (which also is how I made the 3.6B prototype, by reusing the text encoder), but since I plan to halve the text model's learning rate post E7 it'll be a lot less fuckery-pokery.
>>8099493
Take one look at the hidden thread under ai-art acting like cult members hoping NAI XL leaks. That's all you need to know how competent they are.
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>>8099485
gullible is thinking dilateggles will deliver anything.
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>>8099494
>Take one look at the hidden thread under ai-art acting like cult members hoping NAI XL leaks
to be fair that's also all of this thread
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>>8099497
I can tell you've never looked at that thread
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>>8099494
>>8099497
>>8099498
which thread?
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>it was all a ruse to get people to shill cascade
no surprise. neggles remains winning, wdv will emerge victorious
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>>8099494
Auraflow finetune when?
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>>8099481
6-10 iterations, discount of .3~.4
I'm usually on the higher end and doing 10 iteration .4 discount
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>>8099499
wd discord thread
they're just like us desu
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>>8099494
>Wants to kill PDXL
>Posts a westernslop image with even thicker outlines and infected bolt on tits
Got something actually /h/?
>>8099499
Can you not read what you're replying to?
>>8099500
Polished turd contest.
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WHY USE DANBOORU AT ALL?? gelbooru is far superior. danbooru bends over to takedown requests and is missing so much content in comparison
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>>8099416
Is that 1.5 lol?
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>>8099500
>>8099506
Jordach cult is real.
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>>8099507
danbooru has way better tagging
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>>8099501
I'm highly bearish on Transformer models in general because they simply fucking suck at predicting out of dataset things, which art/image models often do. So, no, Auraflow is out of the race, I want shit to run on a 4GB GPU from 2014 at a minimum. No tech spec circlejerking here.
>>8099497
Giga based.
>>8099506
There, this better? I've got IRL shit going on that I've gotta keep an eye on rn and following extreme tism is not possible.
>>8099507
Where do you think I got the anime data from friend?
>>8099509
People are looking for hope in these dark times and I'm one of the extreme few brave enough to try. I don't want a cult either, I'm just sadly acknowledging that it exists in some form.
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>>8099445
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>>8099507
just use accurate automatic captioner to caption all the internet, boorus, sadpanda, sukibei, etc bruh
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Does anyone know what this artist combo actually is?
https://civitai.com/models/386953?modelVersionId=441582

>artist:j.k., artist:blushyspicy, {{{artist: yd orange maru}}}, artist:Cutesexyrobutts, artist:redrop,realistic,2023,{{best quality}}, {{amazing quality}}, {{very aesthetic}}
I thought it was this one but it looks different.
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>>8099511
sorry jordach, i want to believe in cascade but we've already seen much better outputs than what you've posted from some of your shills but even those aren't at the level of the best 1.5 finetunes
i don't think you're convincing anybody else here that isn't already convinced until the 3.6b model starts cooking
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>>8099509
>Cult
>Quoted post is calling Jordach's gen shit
Get glasses or learn English.
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>>8099514
It's the one with nyantcha.
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>>8099503
Thanks
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>>8099511
Euge will come back and wreck you and neggles with a pixart $$$ transformer model finetune
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>>8099517
The joke's on you, ESL-kun.
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>>8099507
Why are you acting like NAI was not trained on danbooru? We haven't even reached that level yet.
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>>8099511
Why are you wasting time on a SDXL model instead of improving the 3.6B model? I thought you were keeping the current training settings because of money limitations, why would you not improve things now that you have the compute? We suffer through pony because it can do a wide variety of concepts and sex poses. Your model can barely manage POV at 75% completion, how does this not give you pause? Can you not look at the images ITT and see the quality difference? Have you never actually used autismmix?
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>>8099511
Sir Jordach, anime dataset is only from gelbooru or kemono/panda also? taking into account that most stuff in now paywalled, that what's bothering me the most
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>>8099528
not jordach but it's just gelbooru
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>>8098622
>>8098726
thank you for the tetos
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>>8099527
I can do both, SDXL as the research model and 3.6B using whatever's left in the donation funding source. Or just do both on the Intel hardware and save money. More than *one* way to spin this. There's other backchannel stuff going on including no stake grants from other corporates with "do what the fuck you want with it" energy attached. Things are going on, even if it doesn't look like it. If I have unused crazy powerful resources, why not use it if it's not costing anything?
>>8099528
Gelbooru. But I do take dataset donations. Palcomix was a custom job of mine because I hate Palcomix' legendary paywall bullshit. They're also never added to the auto completes.
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>>8099494
Is that... Anne Frank?
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>>8099530
>This is jordach
>>8099533
>This is not
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>>8099535
meds
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wdv dataset is 11M images. Danbooru is only 6.5M. SURELY the missing images are in there somewhere, right??
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>>8099530
>>8099533
i guess it's not yet time to set aside loras
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meanoldtree is the puppet master who will save us all
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>>8099538
we're still 4+ months away from anything useable from either party
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>>8099540
Tree is way too competent. He'll either get hired by faang or shot in the head within the next three months
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>>8099544
The story of local kek
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>>8099545
how many times have you made this post now? "local is so fucked kek!" at least try to switch it up you lazy nigger
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>>8099533
>>8099527
>Can you not look at the images ITT and see the quality difference? Have you never actually used autismmix?
This. How do you look at Resonance, then at this thread and think they're on par? I coped in the beginning but your training set up is not it. I can do 50 seeds for a basic concept and not get close. Eyes are blurry, no tools to fix them. I can't even use this as a decent 1girl generator. 2 more epoch or whatever it is will not make this model work for /hdg/. Try gening a sex scene that isn't a anatomical horror, you can't. How is more compute going to fix things if you think this is already better than Pony?
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>>8099547
Just bought 30k anlas
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>>8099534
It doesn't look like shes in an attic to me
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>>8099547
You think its just one person who realizes local is dead? I made similar posts at the start of this thread so far gone from the current discussion. Each day the news gets worse and worse.
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>>8099534
Thinking about a mature Kawakami gets the almonds activating.
>>8099538
I'd rather have a broader model that kinda gets the idea and smashes it out of the goddamn park with LoRAs for niche things than hope and pray it does it out of the box. Like seriously, LoRAs are *better* for manhandling models towards things.
>>8099549
Blame useless drooling retards who refuse to support anything other than their personal cringe mix.
>>8099540
>literally my employer and boss
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>>8099552
for nsfw paid is lagging extremely behind local so nsfw AI is just dead in general
>b-b-but nai
ah yes their new furry model is the talk of the town!
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>>8099556
>Just train a lora, bro
Ohnononononnonononononononnoonon
8wgay
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>>8099549
I still support the effort, but you're not wrong. Pony/autism can do images like this with no inpainting needed, there's no denying the gap. https://civitai.com/posts/1892686
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>local is dead
If you truly believe this, you have no clue what is actually happening.
Local is behind. It will always be behind services like NAI due to the compute difference.
But the thing is, consumer GPUs will continue to get better as they have for the past 30 years. Local will never catch up, to services like NAI just like how no open source photoshop software can ever catch up to adobe's photoshop.
But that doesn't mean that it won't get better year after year.
Pony v6 is way better than NAI v2 and earlier.
Pony v8 or an equivalent model will be better than NAI v3, except by that time NAI v4 will probably exist.
Educate yourselves on moore's law.
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>>8099556
when will you be able to use the intel compute? do we still need to wait another month for the TE to finish training on your 4090?
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>>8099560
Fuck off, hopeposter, we don't take too kindly to your kind round here
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>>8099560
>Pony v8 or an equivalent model will be better than NAI v3
this is the only part of your post that is wrong, but it's so wrong that it invalidates all of it
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Request pic related with woman in link
https://files.catbox.moe/21pufv.jpg
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>>8099567
True, v6 is already better than nai3. v8 will be NAI5 equivalent
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>>8099557
nai3 mogs local, you're retarded to think otherwise. it's just not worth the price they charge for it. freetards like you shouldn't have a say in this conversation, because you praise local garbage for its sole merit (being free) and then try to weasel that into meaning the merits of the model itself are also superior. they're not.

local is garbage. no matter how many loras you stack you cannot escape the ugly sloppy style. you cannot escape the inferior datasets, the lackluster training, the fried unconditional. there is a reason every japanese prompter uses NAI3, and that's because it's actually fucking good. pony and autism are pathetic, as evidenced by this thread growing completely bored of trying to mine hashed tags and the post count exceeding the image count at ratios unlike any before.
all stats point to local being stagnant
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Jordach's trainer doesn't use frequency-based loss scaling, the thing NAI used. Take that as you like.
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>>8099571
stop replying to the resident schizo, dumbass
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>>8099561
I don't care what arch it is, someone give us a finished model we can use already.
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>>8099571
nai is still using a dataset from a year ago lmaooo
meanwhile local can add any artist or character or concept it wants
local can also do 3d or real styles even if they arent your taste
paid is lagging so far behind its insane
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>>8099573
meds, sunk cost fallacy faggot
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>>8099544
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>>8099198
it can anime, nice
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>>8099580
treebros... we cant stop winning
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>>8099580
HOLY FUCKING SHIT this man is a BIG FISH
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>>8099579
Local coul- Wait a minute I could do the exact same in pony!
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>>8099579
>Glass shoe filled with cum
Shes going to get the worst blisters
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astratroon is trying soooo hard to remain relevant but its failing. we all see the slop now
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>>8099580
astrakeks our response????????????
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post images and stop shitposting about shit you have no control over.
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>>8099561
Boss man says it has to ship out from Taiwan directly and might take from a week to many months, but current cash on hand with rented hardware is also viable. Yes things will continue regardless, but better, faster hardware is on the horizon as well. Multiple timetables with no current locked in plan due to flux.
>>8099572
>thinking loss metrics work
This is the kind of thinking that makes you think Zero SNR loss weighting is a good strategy.
>>8099581
It's about ~66% done currently. Lite will always be "lesser" fucker still has to manage the 32x compression factor no matter what. With the text encoder being "done" (It's learned all it can from the current tag distribution overall.) I'm dropping it's LR downwards by half every epoch from now on. Why'd you think E6 cleaned up over E5? The dropping of LR will help.
>>8099582
Bruh, that's literally my employer.
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>Release by far the best local model for free
>It's considered magic for about 4 months
>After 4 months people call it trash and want your head on a spike
Maybe the real reason we don't have local NAI v3 is because we don't deserve it.
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>>8099592
Why'd you post a baboon butt farting then, this isn't /h/ material
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>>8099593
If they don't work then why did NAI use them successfully?
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>>8099594
NAIfags already called it trash on release. In the end only gens matter.
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>>8099595
its nai garbage
hes spent over 500 dollars on upscales btw
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>>8099594
>It's considered magic for about 4 months
you obviously weren't in this thread during pony's release
but i'm probably replying to bait
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>>8099593
>mistaking a crucial method for a metric
Sasuga jordach, local saved!
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the sepia was there on day 1
it never went away
local lost
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we're witnessing the biggest nai melty of the week
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>>8099593
>from a week to many months
it's over
billions must subscribe to nai
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>>8099594
It speaks volumes about astra that he managed to alienate large parts of the community with just some discord messages and civit announcements. Guy would be seen in a far less negative light if he just kept his mouth shut
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love watching the grapes grow ever more sour for freetards. they deserve nothing
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>fell for the NAI meme
>$25 wasted and nothing to show for it
Don't be like me, guys. Use that $25 to buy yourself a low quality girlfriend for an hour instead.
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>>8099608
>just some discord messages and civit announcements
yeah, i'm sure it was that and not hashing artists and then lying about it, pruning concepts, pruning characters (including touhous because of his personal beef despite using reimu to advertise the model), training his model with downsampled jpgs etc etc
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Local has:
>B-
>Tree
>Euge
>lllya
What does Nai have?
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>>8099608
yeah, a lot of the animosity towards astra is from him being an absolute retard. he even came here trip on to act petty towards anons. not a good way to keep people from pointing out your flaws
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>just a few more 5 dollar upscales and the blur will be gone
>oh no its permanent -ACK!
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>>8099610
Give me your NAI account, I can and I will give it a better use. It doesn't matter if you think it's blurry or smudged, either way I'm not posting a single gen ITT, I will gen for myself. Take my offer as a huge favor to you!
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>just a bit more mining and the artist tags will be found!
>oh no its sepi-ACK!
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>>8099615
I can respect Jordach for being the only dev I've seen not act like a complete faggot when posting here desu
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>>8099556
>LoRAs for niche thing
nudes are paywalled so by this, lots of anatomical knowledge is lost
forcing Pony to make proportions like given artist with loras doesn't works great
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ths might be the greatest local tantrum we've experienced yet. can someone just leak the model so they shut up? even though we allllll know they don't deserve it!
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>>8099594
fair n true, WE deceive the spike.
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>nai v4 is gonna be amazing!!
>wait they made a furry model instead and are removing all artist tags
>AAAACK
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>>8099610
How much will it set me back to get b- for a hour?
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>>8099594
What model are you talking about exactly?
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*sigh* just start the groidspam already...
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>>8099629
13 spectrometer coins
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nai does make the darkest and most luscious BBCs....
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>>8099632
What are you even saying? I'm fucking laughing my ass off right now
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Why yes I drag vectorscope even further into the yellow spectrum while genning on pony
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Oh shit, someone better start baking man, look at the image limit
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All jokes aside, what actually causes pony's sepia filter?
Overtraining?
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>>8099614
Frequency-based loss scaling
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what was the nai grifter artist mix?
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>>8099643
Jordach just said that's unimportant
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>>8099642
sdxl is a dull model in general. try the base model yourself. nobody (except the actual smart researchers at NAI) figured out how to unfuck it
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>>8099642
Slop dataset mixed with sdxls absolutely garbage vae. I don't understand how no one has cooked a better one
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I'm fucking dying laughing bros
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>>8099642
Decline of the West.
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>>8099632
B-sama made him stop using groidspam with her divine authority, only text melties are permitted now.
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>>8099646
This is the NAIkeks greatest fallacy. If NAI had competent talent it would immediately get poached by the big players in the AI space. NAI is at the bottom of the barrel and so is their talent.
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>>8099597
Because NAI can just brute force the problem for hundreds of thousand of A100/H100 hours, I'm on the fucking clock when it comes to donated money. And using any custom stuff for the base model impacts how LoRAs will train on said base model. If I use a custom loss, others have to use said custom loss otherwise it doesn't work and it just creates ass.
>>8099624
As I said, I try and get as much public data covering that niche as possible. The coming Reso R2 dataset expands Gelbooru and e6 upto 4m each, with R34.xxx expanded to 2m or 4m.
>>8099642
>>8099647
>makes score_x conditional across all images
>wonders why model is non functional without them
>>8099645
It is unimportant because they can brute force with that method until it works, I cannot do the same on limited hardware. I've been burnt once by custom loss modification and scaling and refuse to do it again.
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>>8099647
if you're being serious, there's nothing specifically wrong about the way the sdxl vae was trained (unlike the 1.5 vae which is actually fucked)
the problems with it are entirely because of the architecture itself
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Local will never die. You literally can't generate something like this on NAI.
>Detailed background with tons of fine detail
>Mature and refined feel while still feeling hip and fresh
>Unique style that calls back to the greats like Norman Rockwell yet still infused with that signature cool anime vibe
>Amazing upscaling models that give insane levels of clarity
People say local needs to catch up? Please, it never fell behind in the first place.
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>>8099661
NAI will never be able to compete
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>>8099661
>anime vibe
>realism merge slop
This is why SAI died, and why CivitAI is in the process of dying from.
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>>8099658
I thought it was common knowledge the sdxl vae is utter trash? There was even a completely busted version rolled out originally that had to be replaced. What fantasy world have you been in?
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>>8099599
Making the next generation of mages. so fucking hot.
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>>8099661
never post something like this ever again
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>>8099667
lmao you mean the one that got fixed in the first week of base sdxl's release? you seem very confused
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>>8099657
How long until we can expect a finished model from you, any arc? If we have to wait months before you even have the Intel hardware to train I'm giving up on ai, I'm so tired.
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The first step in saving local is for Civit to die
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>>8099670
At this point someone should make a discord screenshot lora for faking conversations
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>>8099657
>Because NAI can just brute force the problem for hundreds of thousand of A100/H100 hours
>over 100,000 experimental models day!!!
does anyone believe this shit? they wouldve done something already if this was the case
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>>8099608
>if I never knew about the bad things you did I'd never have a bad opinion of you!
Well gee I never thought of it that way anon.
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reminder jordach made up a lie about neggles to try and damage wdv's reputation
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>>8099680
love a woman that can mulitask
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>>8099568
wtf that's my sister
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>>8099682
Ask neggles yourself :)
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>>8099685
i don't want to distract from her research
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>>8099686
Thank you xir
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>>8099348
>What does that mean in English?
Not them but I think they mean she sounds forced.
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>>8099687
its ma'am
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>>8099681
It's PR 101. Rather no explanation and let people speculate than outright admitting everything and bragging about it.
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>>8099670
>Also helps that i'm basically people's "diversity friend" in those circles. I'm a female identified intersex disabled BIPOC. i check all the diversity hire boxes.
Is this a joke?
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>>8099674
Right now, you can use the in progress models from the CDN by going to the .art/unfinished page and grab work in progress models. Yes they'll be a bit weird compared to official releases but they're somehow, often somewhat better than the last official epoch. Currently, training is at E7/E11.
>>8099670
>caring about race/gender when the guy has functional power over corporates
This is why you should be grateful one is on your side instead of against you. Sometimes your enemy is your best friend.
>>8099677
kekked and checked
>>8099682
>WD never released anything of actual note
Plus they're still grifting off of the name, and no original WD devs are left there.
>>8099679
When you have a fuck ton of compute experimenting on stupid ideas is fucking easy. Imagine what the fuck I could do with a handful of H100s. l appreciate the your concern, but they can brute force things until it works, I cannot do that with limited resources.
>>8099686
>the research: how to remove code from my GitHub because it's using the leaked NAI code
>>8099691
It isn't, it's the very big "I win" button when working against corporate 'Murica.
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>>8099691
Get with the times chud. The road ahead is queer, whether you like it or not
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>>8099691
Unironically based
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>>8099691
nothing wrong with gaming a broken system if you're honest about what you're doing
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>>8099655
Nothing he said was wrong there retard. The anlatan devs said they did this and the obvious improved colors prove it. They also said they would explain what they did but never posted about it again. That's the thing we should be seething about, not whether or not NAI leaks.
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>>8099594
Are you talking about the model that was considered garbage until autismmix released? That one?
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>>8099692
Is Tree-sama trans? What does this mean for B-sama? Where do I buy tickets to the cage fight?
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>>8099692
>When you have a fuck ton of compute experimenting on stupid ideas is fucking easy. Imagine what the fuck I could do with a handful of H100s. l appreciate the your concern, but they can brute force things until it works, I cannot do that with limited resources.
wasnt implying you couldnt do this but nai clearly arent. i severely doubt theyre running their compute at 100% 24/7 right now doing experiments. probably being mismanaged or thought sd3 wouldnt be shit
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STOP SHITTING ON LOCAL it's free you cant make fun of free stuff so just stop please
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We need a summary of the b- lore in the next OP.
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>>8099692
what's your current plan for the total number of 1b epochs? seems like you've already overshot the initial estimate by quite a bit
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So hum guys... about the hentai?
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>>8099705
Bake
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>>8099705
We're discussing B-lore now >>8099703
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Why is everyone clowning on pony? I worked hard making the best possible model I could. I even gave you guys one too
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We need a separate nai thread
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POST YIFF
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>>8099533
>But I do take dataset donations.
Ideally how would you like datsets sent to you and any specific format? Just zipped up images with tags?
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>>8099709
Don't be sad, astralite<3, it's just evil naishills. They'll go bankrupt soon enough.
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I LOVE ASS
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>>8099593
I see
well, hope the TE stabilizes
BTW, is Grok-Fast applicable for diffusion models?

>>8099642
take a good look at all the hentai in boorus
a good chunk of them is yellow/brown AF
Artists like AGM are the exception

>>8099667
the SDXL VAE is fine
the release broken version is indeed broke, but the 0.9 uncorrupted version is fine
it has its limitations with text, of course
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>>8099715
HI DAD, I'M ASS
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>>8099703
What even is the "b-lore"?
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>>8099700
Yesn't is the answer, and unfortunately, not a clear one, from what I've heard in a meeting, it's genetic in nature.
>>8099701
NAI can experiment as they please since they have a shit ton of cash to fund said experiments. I lack said funding currently.
>>8099704
E11 is the current target based on Text Encoder LR halving. Seems to be helping Stage C Lite to "lock-on" better. I've been seeing large jumps even at 12.5% done due to TE being at a lower LR now.
>>8099713
Zipped, preferably pinged at my DMs, the Discord server or something else.

Files formatted as:
image_a.png/jpg
image_a.txt

Where .txt contains the caption pair, both image and .txt file must be in the same folder. Subfolders are supported as the dataloader will check subfolders if you want to keep things organised.
>>8099717
Not that I'm aware of and would demand Grok-Fast to be present for LoRA training to remain "compatible". It has almost stabilised, because E6 can use the in-progress E7 text encoder without issues.
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>>8099720
>NAI can experiment as they please since they have a shit ton of cash to fund said experiments. I lack said funding currently.
do you have a reading comprehension problem? or is this a business safe response?
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>>8099720
>Where .txt contains the caption pair, both image and .txt file
When tagging artists do you just have it "by x," in the data so I make sure it's comparable with existing training or any artist overlap.
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>>8099684
Natsumi moe is you sister wow
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>>8099719
>B- starts shilling cascade her
>Some anon recognizes the handle and links nudes from old /fit/ threads
Is the /fit/ girl really B-? Probably not, but it's a decent meme
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>>8099730
she posted with the same trip here just to confirm that we did indeed see her nudes
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>>8099730
She posted here with the trip so nudes are confirmed.
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>>8099730
>>8092880
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>>8099725
They can effectively set fire to a lot more money than I can with regards to figuring out what works and doesn't work. This is why I'm turning down suggestions because "by the book" is all I can do with Cascade at the minute.
>>8099728
tags, kinda, look, like this, with single (apostrophe) and double quotes are stripped, by some artists name here, things like (artist) are also supported

There shouldn't be a trailing comma at the end of your tags/captions. But yes, an image with the name: somename.png in a folder will expect somename.txt in the same folder.
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>>8099733
I support Cascade now
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>>8099734
Based
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>>8099737
Same.
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>>8099642
mixture of settings, trash XL VAE, XL, as a model, not being great and also probably a lot of bad/"close enough" tags that end up corrupting things(think things with an off-white background being tagged "white background" or a dark gray background being tagged "black background").
>>8099717
>the SDXL VAE is fine
no it fucking isn't.
It's """"""fine"""""" insofar as it's functional but it's also absolute fucking garbage.
The release VAE was fried to fuck. The "working" rolled back VAE is still fried just not as badly.
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>>8099736
listen here you coding socks AGP discord mod with a vibrating dildo up your ass
i wasnt saying they COULDNT do any of those things but they ARENT i never mentioned your funding feel free to give me the same answer again thought!
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So many girls are backing Cascade I'm feeling kinda shy
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>>8099748
B- could be a trap
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FRESH BREAD

>>8099747
>>8099747
>>8099747

>>8099742
dafuq do you even mean by fried
post examples
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I'm transitioning to show my support for Cascade, please call me Neggles from now on.
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>>8099746
NAI has paid workers and can figure out things on their own. I am stuck with whatever fucking scraps end up on GitHub. Bit of a difference mate, and no guarantee that it'll even work with Cascade.
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>>8099746
you're the one who isn't reading what he's saying, retard
his point is that he can't afford to experiment with different loss calculations because he doesn't have the option of just restarting the finetune the next day if something goes wrong, unlike nai
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>>8099751
xe's just a retard who doesn't understand what the vae does
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>>8099757
xem brought up that nai is doing a gorillion experiments a day
i said they probably arent
xhe keeps bring up the funding which i dont give a fuck about
its really not that hard to follow
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>>8099750
At a glance she's got years worth of lore on /fit/ and posters claiming to have seen vadge pics, attentionwhore seems more likely.
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>>8099761
>i said they probably arent
didn't know we had nai employees lurking /hdg/
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>>8099766
man the reading comprehension has gone way down in the last couple hours
weird how that correlates to all the mentions of discord
oh well!
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>>8099770
it must be hard to handle life with an IQ this low
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>>8099771
how long were you held back in elementary school? 5 years? yikes..
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>>8099751
I went through this shit months ago and I'm not going down the rabbit hole again. You also can't really do any demonstrations because there just isn't an alternative VAE(every XL VAE is exactly the same but with minor block shifting/compression shit/whatever, it's all the .9 vae)
The original XL VAE was replaced with an earlier version within a day of XL releasing because it was so bad. the .9 variant is just an earlier revision of it. If you've done any training, you know that frying is generally a gradual process with median ranges. And in .9's case it's less fried but still results in corruption around the right border and really shit color depth.
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>>8099349
If you have to ask then you're not someone with a lot of money, so I'd say not to buy anything. I'd certainly love to have more than 12gb, but I'm able to manage. I guess you should ask yourself what you would be doing with the extra VRAM right now and not what you might theoretically do in a few months when your money situation could change for the worse.
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Anons, any idea what artist tags may be used here?
https://litter.catbox.moe/znfg6s.jpg
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>>8099133
auraflow bros...
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1e1ktdh/auraflow_sure_does_like_making_the_ideogram/



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