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Bay Watch Edition

Previous Thread: >>8106807

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki
Optimizations *NEW*
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Maintained branch:
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/257749/
https://civitai.com/models/288584/
https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
EF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*
Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8109529
>>8109533
>>8109561
>>8109566

thanks for all the suggestions bros, gonna start with the pov lapsitting one since it seems like a popular one. If anyone else has anymore shout em out.
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Misa-Misa daisuki!
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>>8109598

cute
what artist tags are you using, just gjem or w/e?
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>>8109600
gjem yeah
i ignored i before cuz it thought it was chibi but it's fucking kino
basically zero cleaning
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>>8109599
/h/?
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the threads are better when its all text whining instead of images tbdesu
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>>8109599
perfectly encapsulates the absolute state of stable diffusion, thanks.
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>>8109589
Threesome with Jenny and Joy.

Actually surprised I remembered their names, it's been like two decades.
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>>8109614
Everyone knows that Pokemon made plenty a kid men
lol
Gotta check if they're native to Pony like Jessie.
>got warned for chel sex in anime style
>meanwhile like 70% of the average thread not even being /h/
lol jannies
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>>8109616
jannies are out of control
cant even post yordles no more
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>>8109616
>>8109620
It's weird cause the rules clearly say it's about style and origin of images, not content.
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>>8109620
i just hope it was the blackedtard seething the dick was relatively white and reporting it because it would be funneh
nothing ever gets banned otherwise
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>>8109530
i'm not sure how interesting you'd find her but i like nakatani nio and nobody has made a lora for her:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=nakatani_nio
https://www.pixiv.net/users/123216
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Need more pools action. Please post more pools action. Bonus poits if it in the Poolrooms.
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>>8109633
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>>8109635
oh hey i got banned for her before too lol
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>>8109614
Hm yeah they're in the base but Jenny is pretty weak
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>>8109635
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>check thread
>nothing new or interesting
>go back into medical coma for another 3 months
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>>8109642
>173 images
What's going on with danbooru? She must've had thousands over such a long time. Try officer jenny, that's how she's called on e621 and r34.
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gimme the best mix to gen some fat bitches
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>>8109649
(zibj:1.8)
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>>8109635
Lol I didn't think holding up shoe would work
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>>8109647
Danbooru is pretty fucked up, a lot of the artists are purged almost completely
But pokemon is such a strong tag is also interferes with that
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>>8109654
I missed this {{{{{{{{{prompter}}}}}}}}
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>Lore accurate depiction of the fallen hero time line
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>>8109598
Yay Misa Misa
My first blonde goth waifu ever
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>>8109647
First there were the copyright claims for leaked content.
Then there was the bots that combed through the boorus, saving everything for their AI Diffusion data.
Then there were the complaints from ad companies and CredCardComps telling the site to take down certain content that wasnt censored.
Dan and Gel had to basically privatize the site and hide the best content behind certain account requirements or donors-only to keep the site going.
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>>8109682
btw the tag count you see on the left includes gold content even when you don't have gold
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>>8109616
Yeah, strangely enough I got hit with a ban for /aco/ style faces but the bot spam that was posting fried gens was fine? Plus there were still /aco/ posters after me who didn't get hit.
I also noticed that when mods rolled in the amount of schizospam also went up too.
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>>8109687
Pre-AI Danbooru was a goldmine, but since AI threatens to put the artists who make the content out of a job it made sense for artists to withdraw so much of their content from the site.
Why commission an artist for $125 a pic when you can subscribe to a site to generate art in their style for only $15-30?
People generally don't support artists and just want the finished product asap. Sad world.
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any grifters?
what's your scam
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>>8109692
>it made sense for artists to withdraw so much of their content from the site.
Except it has all been already scraped, so there's no point. The anti-Danbooru campaigns propagated by some artist Tweeters were entirely misguided.
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>>8109686
why did you move on from 1.5
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>>8109694
Snapchat Captions
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>>8109694
commissions
i have some guy going in for a 4th and 5th commission
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>align your steps, 12 steps, 4.5 cfg, euler smea dy
>11 second gen directly at 1.5x scale
pretty good for rough drafts and slop
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>>8109705
It's 95% there, all you need to do is fix the fingers or make her wear gloves or something
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>>8109697
1.5 has bad hands still.
I rarely see people still mess with it.
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>>8109707
i just nudged the seed a bit, i was more focused on softening the skin tone
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>>8109708
its the ritual clara poster
if you know you know
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>>8109712
is it though
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hey wtf is stuff fri-
>cfg bumped to 18.5 accidentally
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>>8109705
pyrabox onegai
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>>8109705
is that possible with forge? and if so, how?
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>>8109712
im 95% sure
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Any comfygoy care to share a cascade workflow? I only get pretty noise and all the discord niggers use jordachs bloatware
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>>8109724
pretty sure 1111 has access to AYS, and here's the sampler i use
https://github.com/Koishi-Star/Euler-Smea-Dyn-Sampler

>>8109723
https://files.catbox.moe/zj319v.png
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>>8109724
>>8109729
oh, and kohya hires fix, 1.5 scale, end percent 50%
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>>8109731
nta but it's possible
I've done 1280x1600 before with smea-dyn/exponential
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>>8109729
im retarded but you mean a1111 forge or what, vramlet here so cant rly run regular a1111
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>>8109678
I don't even care she's an el generico by a guy who can't write women
She a cute OG
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>>8109734
AYS powers up low steps gens a lot
i also think it's marginally superior to exponential for regular gens

>>8109735
i use 1111 as an umbrella term for any of the forks, IIRC all the components are available under forged or reforged
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Is there a website for NAI prompts just like civitai?
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>>8109729
thanks!
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>>8109738
aibooru.online
search tag has:metadata
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>>8109725
always thought that those were ritual shitposts because of 1.5
now i'm confused
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>>8109741
thanks fren
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Good morning, sirs.

Post 1girl, presenting armpit
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>>8109746
Better yet, TIFA PAIZURI PLEASE SIRES!!!
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>>8109748
could you make male smaller?
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OFFICER, I CAN'T BREATHE
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does someone has an example prompt of a blowjob pov of the guy? like seeing how the girl sucks your dick
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>>8109755
1 girl,1 boy,pov,fellatio
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https://files.catbox.moe/q4grm3.png
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>>8109754
that style mix would make for good sticker prints
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>>8109754
kek
could I get a box please? curious what style is being used here
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>>8109705
>align your steps
Might give reforge another try I guess. The gen speed was my reason for switching back. Surprised people are getting away with 12 step gens.
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>>8109761
https://files.catbox.moe/x9s1nt.png
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>>8109756
kek thanks it worked
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new message from my cute adult wife
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>>8109764
naisu, thanks anon
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>>8109766
finally someone who can capture the charm of an adult woman
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>>8109766
>1920x1080
How did you do this on NAI?
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>>8109773
theres a slider for resolution you can slider with your mouse cursor
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>>8109778
>slider
I haven't been back in months. I just remember there being a dropdown where you pick your resolution and there was a set of 3 small, 3 normal, and 2 huge or something. Plus don't you get charged extra for inpainting at hires?
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>>8109778
slider? i hardly know 'er!
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>Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).
Any fix for this? does the pic have metadata?
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Im a sucker for fluffy eyelashes, anyone got some artists suggestion for that? Im not happy with what I currently use and the artists lora are either too anime to have pretty eyelashes or too aco or 2.5d and look like shit
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Just got confirmation artist tags are staying in v4 and rule34 got used for training too
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>>8109790
If you're going to bait, at least make it believable.
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Just got confirmation that NAI's payment processors learned about the cunny posting. Imagegen service is shutting down tomorrow.
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>>8109784
adulticon
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>>8109792
the sad eventuality
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Anyone know what style this artist used?
ai_chan_1111/eatsleep1111 on twitter.
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>>8109800
its nai
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>finally satisfied with ONE image after inpainting it for 2 days
>still doesnt feel right
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

im going to get food. spicy chicken or sandwich, make the choice for me
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>>8109805
The chicken
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saggers and swingers
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>>8109806
thanks lad
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>>8109807
not big enough
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>>8109805
>finally satisfied with ONE image after inpainting it for 2 days
>still doesnt feel right
So i'm not the only one like this
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>>8109810
>>8109805
Thats why sometimes you just tell yourself, whatever good enough for now and leave it aside for a few days to get back to it with fresh eyes
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>>8109807
Based huge hanging tits enjoyer
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>>8109805
>inpainting it for 2 days
I hope I never get this autistic
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soraka
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>character has 10 loras
>they are all garbage
thanks for nothing
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>>8109766
>>8109784
The sheer maturity exuding from this fully adult woman is overpowering
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Okay here it is. Batch size 1 vs batch size 8. The loras on the edges (1.3 and 1.52) are bs 1 while the middle ones (1.5 and 1.51) are bs 8. I was trying to test debiased estimation loss (middle) to fix colors but it seems to have come at the cost of comprehension. Judge for yourselves. I've been looking at this for too long.
https://files.catbox.moe/xg9osa.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/la5j3d.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/dlq7oe.jpg

Here's what it's supposed to look like.
https://files.catbox.moe/103z6f.png
https://files.catbox.moe/23eyy4.png
https://files.catbox.moe/eddw49.png
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>>8109824
you did batch size 8 with debiased estimation loss and bs1 without?
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>>8109824
why are all those hands so fucked up
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>>8109824
what were your buckets like and size of your dataset
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i don't want to take screenshots anymore
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Time to use chatgpt to prompt
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>>8109852
huh chatgpt does nsfw?
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OUR wife
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>>8109853
I guess
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>>8109854
I don't see anyone posting nero
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>>8109857
Good shit.
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>>8109857
god i wish i was an amputee PE teacher
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>>8109862
damn you right
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>>8109852
1, the prompt i ended up with:
1girl, lying on bed, from above, dutch angle, completely nude, legs spread wide open, fingering, masturbation, hand between legs, (grabbing own breast:0.8), ahegao, moaning loudly, solo, sweat, pubic hair, skindentation

lora: low light, a very useful one
https://civitai.com/models/432511/low-light-for-pony
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>>8109824
The BS 8 one seems to be outperformed by the BS 1 in almost all cases
BS>1 sister, our response??????????
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>>8109867
Yeah I was trying fixing the prompt too got even crazier suggested prompt because I wasnt expecting it to actually give me sex act but I ran out of free credit apparently
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>>8109810
>>8109811
>>8109816
im back from spicy chicken. yes i am that autistic. i just cant make it look exactly what i want. lips on it are a bit wrong
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>>8109825
The middle two are bs 8 with debiased and the others are without.
>>8109826
Can you explain why they should work perfectly without inpaint? Can you post your settings or did you come to shitpost?
>>8109832
40 buckets with 256 min resolution and 2048 max. 143 images.
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>>8109876
ime debiased estimation loss fucks with details on sdxl, along with min snr gamma. if you want to do some kind of color fix then your best bet might be immiscible noise since afaik it should match the color of the noise to each training image
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>>8109876
Im not here to shitpost but I usually have decent hands, worst scenario I have one finger too many or missing but i guess your picture may be too zoomed out to have decent hands, looks the 3 gen right above they have good hands without inpaint
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>>8109878
Yes I can confirm that although it improved colors it messes up details. It seems okay for most simple stuff but not something complex like this. Do you have your min snr gamma set to 0? I've been using multires noise. The far left and right loras have that at 6 iterations and 0.3 discount.
>>8109879
Can you post your lora settings? Are you saying your character loras have good hands on base autism (no style lora)? I managed to get that on a different character lora but I'm still trying to figure out what causes this. It might have something to do with lower LR.
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anybody made shuten-wife poster style mix lora for pony yet? (wamudraws, possummachine, healthyman)? stacking 3 separate poorly made loras are frying up my gens
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>>8109882
I dont think its specific to my loras, I feel like most people are getting decent hands out of the box unless the lora is completely fucked
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>>8109887
Most people's loras are underbaked which is why I keep asking for your settings so I can just bake it now and have hard proof but I guess you won't be of any help.
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>>8109887
i wouldn't say that you get decent hands most of the time on base resolution gens but i also think that anon's lora is giving worse than average hands
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>>8109883
I remember that one anon did trained a style lora out of his mix, also trained a gloss lora
He never ended up sharing any of them
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>>8109882
i have min snr gamma set to 0. multires noise seems fine as far as i can tell, but if you have it set very high it'll also mess with details. it should be fine at your settings, though.
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>>8109889
90% of problems like these are a dataset issue rather than a settings issue
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Does anyone else sometimes have their gens come out fucked up? Like melted, and partially reverted to the seed's base image, ignoring some prompts?

Usually it would be caused by too many loras, or poorly made ones, but I'm getting it from gens that worked fine, but removing the lora melts it. Simply rearranging tokens or putting them in parentheses will do it. It doesn't seem to be a problem with memory or anything, because it will consistently happen on the same prompt/seed between sessions.

Is it a problem with the model? The one I'm using was a simple 70/30 in merge checkpoints. The prompts that cause melting are fine in both parent models, but one of the parent models occasionally gets it in different, unrelated prompts.
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>>8109892
Is that better than directly training a lora? maybe training a dreambooth kind of lora?
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>>8109892
>He never ended up sharing any of them
it's fucking over
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>>8109878
>immiscible noise
how to redeem that sir? want to give it a try, i'm on kohya sd-scripts tho
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>>8109890
It's not base res but after hires fix. Don't you get bad hands when you do full body?
https://files.catbox.moe/traxj7.png
>>8109895
So could you offer any explanation? Pics all have good hands or are you claiming I should have taghed it with 5_fingers?
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>>8109900
to be honest prompt like 1 girl, standing get worse hands because the ai has no idea what to do with the hands
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>>8109899
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/pull/1395
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>>8109898
get a dataset and tag it and somebody here will bake it
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>>8109901
Well you can see why I'm confused that people are saying the hands are worse than normal. It seems like the normal AI thing but they're withhold info for some reason.
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>>8109887
how did you train your style?
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>>8109905
who said I trained my loras?
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>>8109906
sorry i quoted the wrong post, meant to quote >>8109824
afaik they trained a wuthering waves style lora and i think that it can fuck hands up if you do it wrong
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>>8109907
Well that one wasn't a style lora but a character. Have you seen any problems with the wuwa style lora? For style I usually just get at least 100 pics, tag everything, proofread for errors and train for 3k steps at 0.003 lr and batch size 1. The character lora was done with prodigy.
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>>8109911
i'm assuming that you trained the character lora using the style lora and the style lora can influence a lot of how well the character turns out wrt stuff like fucked up hands. i have by no means figured out the best way of doing it but if you want to improve hands and stuff then i'd look into that aspect first.
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>>8109918
No I trained the character lora on its own. I haven't had much success with the merged model method so I just did it the old fashioned way. Prodigy picks its own LR so it can get really high during training and pick up some of the style of the dataset.
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is there a tag to define how squishy tits should be? surely there is
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good news! cascade is back to baking on a 4090.
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>>8109942
let's go!
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>>8109942
THANK GOD
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>>8109942
Ok but why?
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>>8109766
based
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>>8109951
they don't have access to the 8x a100 from AWS yet and jordach wants to "leave the TE dev to something that i know works"
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hdg I ask you a question.

How yandere is too yandere?
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>>8109955
no such thing
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>>8109955
when she has a knife blade to your balls
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Has a good standard been reached for lora training settings or is it still a crapshoot?
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>>8109942
jordach be like:
>yoooo dawg these shitty outdated niche nvidia cards will cook just trust me
>oh it's actually slow.. damn you never see it coming!
first it was shitty a6000 and now l40s? either get a100 or h100 or gtfo. theyre the only cards relevant for a reason.
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>>8109955
i cant get aroused if i see any blood, it makes me ill
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>>8109955
>>8109957
https://files.catbox.moe/qz63vb.png
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>>8109976
i enjoy my rika-chan tamed...
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>>8109976
extremely based
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>>8109976
where is that healthyman lora from? i can't find it in civitai or the rentry
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>>8109976
Now this is pod racing.
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>>8109976
she likes them circumcised
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So I've been messing around with uncensoring doujinshi with inpainting. I can get pretty decent results with the classic mosaic censoring but I can't seem to get censor bars or manhua censoring right.
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>>8109592
>>8109592
How do I make my own model to use with stable diffusion? IS that possible?!
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>>8109960
For you I didn't put any
>>8109956
>>8109957
Absolutely fearless chads.
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>thread full of kids again
sigh
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>blurry smeared messes from lazy nai sissies
sigh
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>>8109998
>>8110002
just start your groidspam already
it wont change shit, it wont revive shit and no one will ever care
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Any good methods to animate this image? Without having to do a lot of "manual" work with Photoshop and After Effects?
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>>8110006
meds
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>>8110009
make her cheeks and the cock separate layers and tween them manually saving each variation a separate image. Put it together in GIMP as an animation in gif.
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>>8110009
wrong thread
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>>8110015
ran out of roid images to spam? you poor thing
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>>8110023
damn brat...
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>>8110023
Mikubox please
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>>8110028
lowres https://files.catbox.moe/u0xpdm.png
upscale before redraw https://files.catbox.moe/oybe5o.png
loras can be found scattered between directories in this mega https://mega.nz/folder/FiUlmbaY#THGdabflbUDLMXffz_febQ
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>>8110030
That's some dedication and effort right there, even for a simple gen
Based loliposter
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>>8110020
Was hoping to find a better way using SD.

I'm using controlnet depth leres++ to make a psuedo animation using depth maps. Turned out ok but trying to ask here if there's a better method
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>>8110037
there was anon animating his gens through live2d but his posts happened in 1.5 era
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Is there a way using Auto/Forge to give a list of seeds and have it generate them? Kinda like the XY grid, only without the grid.
I like to gen in large batches of like 20, and I want to take the good seeds that I like and gen them again using Hi-res fix. I'm usually just sitting with notepad open and copy/pasting them in the seed field manually, but I figure there's probably a better way to do it.
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>>8110046
img2img batch
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>>8110049
Can't see where I'd input multiple seeds there.
I'm not trying to upscale them in img2img.
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>>8109892
I have this thing called "bKRRnaimix" saved from here, it might be what you mean if he did end up sharing it. Style's there and it clearly has a loli bias too.

https://files.catbox.moe/ap6euw.safetensors
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>>8110052
>and it clearly has a loli bias too.
based
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>>8110051
hiresfix IS img2img upscaling, PNG Info tab, you basically check everything.
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>/hdg/
>just loli shit
>if you post a woman over 18 you get referred to /d/
it's over.
pedophiles have officially taken over.
why can't you fucks just stick to your own pedo threads while waiting for your local law enforcement agency to find you?
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>>8110043
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
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>>8110057
kys roidcuck
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>>8110057
Pedophiles have the audacity to refer to pubic hair as bestiality. /hdg/ is truly fucked.
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>>8110052
how you gonna use the bk mix with no bk
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>>8110056
That's still basically the same amount of steps as what I was doing.
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>>8110062
Pubic hair can be cute (but not funny) too, within reason.
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this is /h/ pubic hair >>8110065
this is /d/ pubic hair >>8108753 >>8108773
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its only funny how bad nai is
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>>8110046
In Auto, scroll to the bottom and select "Prompts from file or textbox" in the Script dropdown. Then either paste your prompts and seeds in the textbox or select a text file with your prompts and seeds.
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>>8110070
still haven't shit out a single image? didn't know roid mines could be depleted.
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>>8110034
honestly it was pretty low effort compared to what I'm used to.
also, hey, I only had loli tag on the lowres to see if it would change the bodyshape/sizing from that positioning and since it didn't I dropped it on upscale. So she's as legal as any other normal miku, I swear.
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>>8110046
>>8110071 (me)
I should also mention that if you're going to use the same prompt for all the gens, then you can just put the seeds in the textbox/file and just leave your prompt in the normal prompt textbox.
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>>8110063
What, the name means something? I just mix it into other styles to get softer shading.
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>>8110075
>>8110071
That's what I was lookin for. Thanks.
I figured it was something to do with that, but I didn't think I could just do --seed and it'd use what's in the prompt. In hindsight it's kinda obvious, but it is what it is.
Thanks again.
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>>8110072
sorry i dont like lazy raw gens of some blurry slop being spammed
keep calling me some boogeyman though
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>>8110079
thank you for posting an image that doesn't contain a child
been a while
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>>8110082
>>8110087
seethe
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>>8110089
only second post is mine
not everyone who is critical of the current state of hdg is some spammer boogeyman, truly.
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Tips on getting more teen/jk looking girls?
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>>8110100
use non-pony model
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so does deforum not work on reforge because controlnet is built in?
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>>8110100
(cute, funny:1.3)
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>>8110101
Any recommendations?
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>>8110100
Catbox a failed attempt and we'll go from there? In general if you're doing anything other than pony's default girl body you have to start dropping score tags. Afterwards, loli emphasis is basically an age slider.
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>>8110105
animagine for local (no porn)
NAI for cloud (paid)
if you still want local semi-weeb porn - >>8110106 and use hashed artists + style loras corresponding to girls you'd like to see
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>>8110100
What the other anon's said but also small breasts function as an age slider too (I often have to put loli in negs to get the right body shape).
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>>8110107
Thanks, just subbed to NAI. Why are all my gens so blurry though?
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>>8110113
It senses your bad faith trolling and nogen aura

Very advanced proprietary technology
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i pay 25 dollars just to get mocked...
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holy shit freetard had a meltdown all alone. must be tough going 8 months without a good local model.
thats what you get for relying on a leak!
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>>8109958
i have my own extensively 1:1d ones but i am 100% sure anon will open them and know instantly that they will make mustard gas and kill ur lora
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nai sissy wet his diaper again how deep does this sunk cost fallacy go?
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>>8110137
I'd rather sit on her face.
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>>8110142
That's just wrong sir
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pfft
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>>8110068
/hdg/ - hairy dames general
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>>8110145
I'd unironically take groidspam over this, like holy shit how can you make such an unappealing gen? And no, it's not about the hair
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>>8109868
I had the same results. Anything over 2 starts to melt it, but that makes sense. I believe it was included in some imagen paper too.
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>>8110146
>nogen
looooooooleeeeee
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>>8109824
The BS 1 one seems to be outperformed by the BS 8 in almost all cases
BS=1 sister, our response??????????
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>kagami's cheerleader outfit is purple and doesn't expose navel, as intended
>konata's is blue and has crop top
>miyuki's is pink and has crop top aswel
do i need to bring back hair color tags in order to get rid of this crap? for the record, konata has biggest cheerleader dataset than any other girl, all tests were done in separate character loras
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>>8110148
imo bs2 is the best, bs1 tends to overfit a little. but honestly i havent tried it in xl a lot so maybe its better
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>>8110107
>recommending animagine
ngmi
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>>8110156
Ask on /b/?
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>>8110157
Hm I thought that was my conclusion too but I'm using batch 1. I'll dig up my results from the archive.
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>>8110156
>do i have to tell the ai what to do sometimes
yes
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>retraining my retro lora but without upscaling buckets
i hope this will make it more sovlfvl
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>>8110166
i advise 768-2048 no min res, it will still bucket but do less of them
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>>8110162
its weird that kagami even got proper white-green-purple transition pattern by only having "cheerleader" as a tag but every other girl haven't learned anything at all
if tsukasa is gonna come out right i'll blame absence of hair color tags
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>>8110145

anons out there think pubic hair belongs on /d/ with 5ft long futas and dick nipples
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>>8110052
Very cute, I love her
Character name?
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>>8110170
excessive pubic hair does
>b-but it's natural
no

the image you posted is perfectly normal
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>>8110170
it does
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>>8110167
The actual problem was that it smoothed out the jpg SOVLRTIFACTS
The upscaler must be pretty good
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>>8110174
that may be an unintended consequence of high res training itself
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>>8109773
Just type in whatever resolution you like (as long as it's within 1536 * 2048 pixels)
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>>8110175
We'll see in 30 mins
But I'm sure it getting upscaled almost twice for training had a part in it.
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>>8110157
>>8110161
Oh yes right, I tested 1 batch with gradient to be the best for me. Now I remember.
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7957851/#7958604
And alphas
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7957851/#7958672
Dropouts
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7957851/#7958882
Gamma
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7957851/#7958924
I think constant v cosine with retards?
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7957851/#7959065
Too bad I'm that scatterbrained and didn't document everything publicly, especially the alphas, kek. But I do use the setup I came up with back then still.
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>>8110180
what gradient settings though
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>>8110181
Whatever's the default, I'll link the script in a few mins.
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I coomed to 4girls standing
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Do you feel lucky?
https://files.catbox.moe/itsbwt.png
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>>8110187
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>>8110189
totally using them for dataset, thank you
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>>8110191
>synthetic data in dataset
>with mismatched torso sizes at that
ngmi
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>>8110192
nothing wrong with some synthetic dataset
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>>8109592
is there a dumb idiot beginners guide for dumb idiots? i got shit like ai chatting set up now id like to get ai art if possible.
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>>8110194
get the extension in the op
start checking catboxes in the thread for ideas (4chan strips metadata by default)
experiment
repeat for a few hundred hours
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>>8110193
synthetic data trains faster than non-synthetic data, causing it to burn in.
and in this case it's bad because, again, mismatched torso's. konata has hips that are like 1.5x wider than they should be to her waist profile and miyuki's crotch is lower than it should be, making her feel pretty loooooooong.
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>>8110192
>>synthetic data in dataset
if its average fried local t2i gen then its not worth it ofc
>>with mismatched torso sizes at that
won't do much against ~500 normal images
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>>8110171
I guess it's Charlotte now
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New models?
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>>8110181
https://files.catbox.moe/i5kpd9.toml
TLDR
8DIM was too little, over 16 fried stuff in
Equivalent alpha was better, helped with style fry in
Batches as above, but gradient also helped it make it significantly better
Min sr and Dropout helped with fry in
I didn't separately test the values for sr dropout and gradient because I didn't want brainfuck
Also Prodigy because it just works and gets stuff done literally 5x quicker
I baked charas styles and concepts with it
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>>8110052
>bKRRnaimix
Hey I love this LORA
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>>8110175
It didn't help
sad
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>>8110188
Is that allowed here?
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>>8110200
Wait you're the poster from /e/ I met as well, right?
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>>8110201
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>>8110201
there's some chinese model looking like NAI but it isn't released yet and half of the prompt in examples are consists of moonrunes
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>>8110209
Yes, I had the prompt left over from yesterday and wanted to show the lora they were talking about.
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>>8110194
From one dumb idiot to another
1. use A1111, forge devs can be flaky and the integrated extensions are outdated.
2. use pretty much any pony based model that isn't pony itself. autismmix confetti is pretty standard and idiot proof.
3. quality tags are a little weird but starting with "score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up" in the positive prompt and "score_6, score_5, score_4, source_cartoon, 3d, (censor),monochrome,blurry, lowres,watermark," in the negative prompt
4. Euler a at 30 steps with a cfg of 7 will get you good results more often than not
5. sdxl needs resolutions around 1024x1024, look up a list of resolutions for different aspect ratios
6. for extensions the two I recommend off the bat are tagcomplete and adetailer
7. tagcomplete adds an autocomplete to the tags in your prompt. For the most part you want to structure your prompt around these tags.
8. adetailer automatically detects and inpaints faces. The defgault yolov8n is fine but I recommend changing the masked padding pixels to 128, the inpaint width and height to 1024x1024, and inpaint denoise strength to 0.5
9. If you get a gen that has the right composition but has problems, send the image to the inpaint tab using the button under the generated image widget. There you can draw a mask on the problem areas, change the inpaint area to only masked, change the masked padding to 256 (or 128 I haven't figured out which I like more), change the width and height to 1024x1024. This should allow you to essentially "reroll" parts of your generation but you may need to increase or decrease the denoising strength to get the desired effect.
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>>8110203
did you try training at 32dim then resizing
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>>8110218
Oh yeah yeah
Resizing doesn't do that much imho to fix that kind of frying you get, it's useful for minor composition but not style
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>>8110189
See, you can even have a loli lower body while having wide hips. Just have to use NAI and it works no problem at all. Magical model.
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>>8110203
>8DIM was too little, over 16 fried stuff in
isn't dim and alpha controls how much precision your lora will have and nothing else? haven't noticed any friedness between 8 and 32 on my loras, albeit 8 was less consistent with stripes on uniforms
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>>8110194
My workflow TLDR
Get Forge, it's autoinstall
Get AutismXLPony and the SDXL VAE
Set up your ui-config.json to keep your settings, mostly the resolution, CFG, sampler, and steps. I use 832x1216 landscape and portrait but like anon said anything around 1024x1024 works. Euler Smea Dy from an extension but Euler A is ookay. 35 steps. 5 CFG. All this is up to individual taste.
Gen with "3d" in negs and no quality tags. Use hashed artists (OP) or style loras. A lot of characters work on basic danbooru tags, some need loras.
Once you get a gen you like, clean it up in Lama-Cleaner, Photoshop, Paint, whatever. Use inpainting to integrate it into the picture. My inpainting post https://archived.moe/h/thread/7914140/#7915754 Fix faces, hands, details with only masked if needed (basically what the adetailer anon mentioned but manual)
Get 4xNomos8kDAT and put it in the upscaler folder in Forge, upscale your image 2x and then import back into img2img. Denoise at 0.15-0.5 to get a clean higher res image.
Make any last fixes and then denoise at ~0.15 to integrate them.
I also use imagemagick to increase the contrast because the XL VAE is grey as fuck but if you have bad eyes it doesn't matter.
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>>8110203
>8DIM was too little, over 16 fried stuff in
How about you lower the lr if it's fried instead of dumbing down your loras. Just make them 1dim already, they don't work anyway.
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>>8109645
>check treechan
>no new posts
>return to medical coma for another 3 months
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>>8110222
DIM is how much information is in there, but with loras and how little the imagesets are, too much just means you're frying stuff in. I'd get like shirt sleeves when nude or just too much style from the images.
Alpha as far as I know is a "brake" for training, so the higher the less frying you get.
>>8110225
So, you're baking on 4096 DIM, right?
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>>8110222
That's just dim. Alpha slows down learning based on the ratio of dim to alpha. So every time you adjust dim you have to adjust alpha as well to keep the same ratio, otherwise your effective learning rate changes. Like 12dim/6alpha -> 32dim/16alpha.

Or just keep alpha equal to dim at all times to make things easier. Since its original use case is gone and all it does now is slow learning, same as setting the LR lower would.
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>>8110227
You got it reversed. Higher alpha brakes less, alpha equal to dim does nothing. >>8110228
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>>8110229
>Higher alpha brakes less, alpha equal to dim does nothing
That's funny considering the results I got but that's ML for you kek
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are bakers ITT afraid of dim32 because nochekaiser bakes his shit this way?
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>>8110232
I personally used to bake at 128 but then took time to test the stuff 1:1 when switching to XL
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what happened to all the people sharing loras
used to have major fomo going through all these threads but I've only seen like two mega links in the past few months
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>>8110210
as always
>>8110211
source? since the sd3 debacle
I dont believe any shit unless we can test it
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>>8110234
>pony has most of the characters i like built in
>no longer need to bake random artists to try to get nonshit lines like in 1.5
>a lot of concepts work too
what can i say i have 70 obsolete imagesets
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Why is Jordach such a chicken shit when it comes to training on anything but the 4090? By the time we see 3.6b it'll be irrelevant. Hurry the fuck up!
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>>8110238
post the black cocks already cuh
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>>8110234
got tired of pony and moved on
>>8110235
https://nx9nemngdhk.feishu.cn/docx/XNMDdCOkvoWlvVxVqfVceLXEnoh
use any kind of condom to visit it if you don't wanna get CCP aids
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>>8110238
He wants to ride the high of attention a little longer before it all comes crashing down
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>>8110238
i know. getting real tired of it'll be done tomorrow then uhboh 3 more months. if anyone, and i mean anyone, releases even a quality jeetmix before it finishes than im never using cascade.
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>>8110243
Even his shills look bored.
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>>8110224
What folder do you put 4xNomos8kDAT in?
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>>8110247
/models/DAT
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>>8110242
whats the likelihood of that releasing?
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>>8110247
/models/upscale_models if you're comfy
but then if you were comfy you'd figure it out yourself
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>>8110249
idk, still doubt that it will be usable for non-moonrunes speakers if they're a part of a tag system
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>>8110242
>"negative_prompt": "错误的眼睛,糟糕的人脸,毁容,糟糕的艺术,变形,多Q余的肢体,模糊的颜色,模糊,重复,病态,残缺,",
It does indeed look good, but you'll probably need to setup some .csv chinese to english alias fuckery to use this shit.
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>>8110242
I just assume any Chinese related model will have complete bullshit demos and previews and always come out as complete trash because that's how pretty much everything coming out of China usually ends up
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>>8110245
I still wonder how they managed to burn nearly 3k on 5 epochs of the 1b. With that mileage the dono funds wouldn't even get them to e1 of the 3.6b model.
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>>8110253
Finally, reading On Guerrilla Warfare will be useful
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>>8110254
>will have complete bullshit demos and previews and always come out as complete trash
That's everything that comes out in the ML space doe
Just ask textbros
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>>8110229
personally i did a ton of testing on high lr with reduced alpha as opposed to just alpha = dim and the latter was both better and didn't require you to do any arithmetic
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>>8110234
i already finished my high priority bakes call me when there's a new model
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Any xy chads wanna do me a favor and run some experiments with negpip?
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bakerchads, describe difference between Unet and TE LRs to a moron
should there be a ratio between them for better results? how much do i need to decrease/increase them to make lora training slower/faster?
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>>8110224
doing an img2img after the upscale adds a ton of anatomy issues. What prompt do you use along side the upscaled image to prevent this?
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>>8110266
it doesn't doe
at least for me
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>>8110267
hmm, do you use the same prompt as in txt2img or do you leave it empty? I'm getting some pretty horrific results at even 0.3 denoise.
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>>8110268
everything same yeah
maybe it's a sampler issue, i know smea dy fucks up majorly when denoising for some reason
but i said 0.15-0.5 because different prompts and different artists can handle it better or worse
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>>8110270
ah it was smea yeah. Probably should have been the first thing I checked when testing your workflow. classic scientific progress, only test one variable at a time.
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>>8110272
Yeah I forgot to mention I denoise and inpaint with regular Euler A
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has anyone tested it on pony?
https://huggingface.co/xinsir/controlnet-tile-sdxl-1.0/tree/main
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asurabros...
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>>8110279
What about them?
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>>8110281
asura (asuraover)
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>>8110287
Proof?
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>>8110288
Critical lack of:
Tanned asurauser jks
Tanned asurauser elves
Pale asurauser vampires
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>>8110293
True (trueuser)
Ourresponsesisters (ourresponsesistersuser)????
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>>8110293
gooood
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>>8110293
I agree, but you could've posted an asura gen instead of complaining.
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>>8110276
someone posted about it 18 days ago here but I can't remember much about how it was received. It does work and makes euler_smea_dy actually usable in img2img but so far the results are more sepia toned and the values are less blended
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>>8110303
no nai
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>>>/a/269005926
What Lora is that?
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>>8110305
it's innate on pony
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>>8110308
and it'll look like pony
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>>8110309
It'll look like asura, that's the whole point
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>>8110311
Pony will always look like pony. No matter what exoteric extension you use, no matter how many loras, hashes and artist tags you stack, no matter what jeetmix checkpoint you download. This model is cursed and there is no salvation
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>>8110315
this
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>>8110315
Feel free to doom without even trying it
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>>8110317
Believe me, I tried everything. If you can't see it, then count yourself lucky and carry on genning.
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>>8110315
Yes we know, where are the black cocks chum
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>>8110204
What sparkle lora are you using? They are all garbage
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>>8110320
rent free
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>>8110322
So where are they? Did your gpu break?
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>>8110234
Burned out. I'm sitting on close to 200ish Style loras that I haven't uploaded because I don't feel like genning previews and because my upload speed is shit.
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>>8110327
I really don't understand people like you...
do you have interest in imagegen solely from a research standpoint?
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>>8110330
NTA but kinda geg
I spent 1000x times more time testing and baking than genning, but that was 1.5's fault, I'm genning more lately
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>>8110329
There are multiple people doing all those things
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>>8110332
That just coincidentally got banned at the same time ;)
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>>8110329
blanket bans don't prove that it's a one person, they actually usually aren't. all those bans seemingly were due to off-topic or racism
but it's a convenient way to frame people you dislike as some kind of spammer troll.
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>>8110234
i upload to civitai now :)
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Is there a way to get the autoprompt from clicking loras to put the lora name at the end?
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>>8110333
then who is this guy >>8110156
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>>8110338
idc
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>>8110333
Well i'm still here and i made the op on treech
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>>8110340
isn't he supposed to be the one that posts trooncord screenshots and shit
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>>8110330
I do enjoy training. I enjoy the process of building a dataset and then seeing the results I get from the lora, but I just feel a bit burnt out because pretty much all I did from the moment we got Pony is just train for months straight.
I also just don't see a point. I'm personally happy with my own loras, and I also know I've done some artists that likely no one else has touched, but there is so much overlap with some of them that I don't feel like I need to add another one to the mix.
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>>8110315
sounds like a gigantic skill issue
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>>8109592
how often does NAI update their database? I am getting to the point where I may just switch to local just so I can generate images of some characters that have only existed in the past 7~ish months
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>>8110346
>how often does NAI update their database?
That's not possible
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>>8110346
there is no database, there's just the model. nai won't have new characters until v4 or whatever and even then it'll be limited to what was available in the dataset when they started training.
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>>8110350
>>8110348
aight
local time
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>>8110346
>update
if only that was how it worked
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>>8110351
what character made you switch?
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>>8110354
wouldn't finetuning the model with new characters be incredibly easy with their equipment?
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>>8110358
Even if it were possible these niggas still haven't made a feature promised three years ago (it's a frontend for something they already do btw and that was implemented before)
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>>8110358
they are making millions, they could retire right now
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>>8110358
i thought they said the equipment was a loan. and i bet imagegen makes them almost no money so they have very little incentive to work on it besides the staff being gooners themselves
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>>8110360
>>8110361
Why make a million when they could make... thousands?
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Do you still use autismmix? How is this one:
https://civitai.com/models/568043/4th-tail-autism?modelVersionId=633045
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>>8110361
It's not a loan they're just getting shit from that one GPU hosting site because NVIDIA gave them shit
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>>8110358
heir cluster isn't that large considering all they are doing with it. Between servicing clients and training new image and text models, there probably isn't any headroom for an updated v3
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>>8110056
NTA but are you sure about that? I feel like hiresfix change and add way more stuff than i2i even with the same settings
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>>8110366
Isn't hiresfix on latent by default
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>>8110363
i use midkemia and 512dim lycoris extract of 4th tail
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I'm using OneTrainer to make Loras but I'm not sure how to continue from a Lora (I stopped at 24 epochs and want to train further). The guide says:
>To continue the training from a previous backup, just select the backup directory as your base model.
However, you can't select a directory as a model - it must be a file. Do I need to select the model inside the backup directory?
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>>8110368
2 years later it still fucking is
can change it in config files though
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>>8110368
yeah but you can still change it
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>>8110372
>>8110368
Unless the upscaler is not the hiresfix sampler in which case thats retarded?
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>>8110293
Fine, here you go.
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>>8110359
Which feature?
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>>8110376
real niggas remember modules v2
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>>8110374
based and luckypilled
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sage
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>>8110374
It looks like Pony
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>>8110374
It looks like Asura (Asurauser)
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>>8110382
I'm starting to like your images, which means you might be dangerously close to becoming one of those lolifags you hate very much. Be careful!
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>>8110382
So beautiful. An actual person that harnessed Pony.
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>>8110382
that one ring finger looks a little fucked up but still better than 99% of the slop i see
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what
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>>8110355
Elegg and Red Hood from Nikke
Ellen from ZZZ
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>>8110391
there are no good ellen loras though
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>>8110389
It's a perfectly normal ring finger.
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>>8110389
And the background boy's face is messed up. Depth of field solves that usually.
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I love matrix multiplication
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an anon was asking about why you'd ever want to use loss masks with the 1-99% loss values the other day and here is an example of why, i think:
https://files.catbox.moe/wpkatj.png
the shark girl has a jaw shaped collar thing around her neck that's much larger in the front than the back, so that you can't actually see the back of the collar from the front. because everything outside of the character is fully masked the AI is imagining that all sides of the collar are the same size. i think that adding a black background and a very small amount of loss to the training images should fix this.
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>>8110394
faggots have fingers as in the right picture
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>>8110327
post them in a mega or something pretty please....
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Sasuga jordach-sama, artificially limiting your own hardware to get better results.
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>>8110411
It would be terrible if the generated images looked fine as end results, without needing manual refinement after all. Only lazy fuckers would want that.
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>>8110358
no? to get a model at the same level of quality would require almost as much effort as finetuning a model from scratch, and even with their hardware they needed several months for naiv3
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>>8110414
I'm actually barely knowledgeable with this stuff, but isn't stuff like dreambooth quite fast and non-destructive? You just add concepts to an already baked model, no?
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>>8110417
not really no
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>>8110412
No it wouldn't, Jordach. Get a grip on reality. It would raise the bar of what you can do if you are not a lazy fucker.
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>>8110417
there is no such thing as non-destructively finetuning a model on 1m+ images
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>>8110412
this >>8110422
laziness is progress
always was throughout the history.
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>>8110405
I keep all my backgrounds at 20%, to avoid the issue where the AI thinks she's supposed to take up the whole image.
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>>8110428
that was the first thing i tried to fix that and it didn't work, which is why i have a schizo image padding script now
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test
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>>8110440
newfag
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confetti is way more yellow than pony
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wow such a coincidence
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man I hate mods and jannies
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>>8109597
i need pov lapsitting asap
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>>8110194
>>8110215
pic related
(I was going to send the sd resolutions pic but it seems dumb mods range banned my IP for uploading too many catboxes? God I'm sick of this place.)
>>8110224
>4xNomos8kDAT
I still don't get the appeal of this. I did my month test of upscalers again and 4knomos is still blurry compared to foolhardy.
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>>8110446
janny will ban chel and leave discord images on /h/
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>>8110448
>I still don't get the appeal of this. I did my month test of upscalers again and 4knomos is still blurry compared to foolhardy.
It prefers tiny lines the best
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>>8110449
both of those things should be banned
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>>8110450
preserves* jesus
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>>8109597
traditional angel halos, no weird blue archive shit
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>>8110454
You could just neg mechanical halo, blue archive
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Astralite trapped bestiality demon in the Pony latent space
its miasma leaks as sepia and aco shading
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>>8110455
doesn't work in practice, you often get extra shit even with negs
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>>8110456
post the discord screenshot again pls
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>>8110448
>I still don't get the appeal of this. I did my month test of upscalers again and 4knomos is still blurry compared to foolhardy.
it's an image restoration network that was trained on a dataset that added things like jpeg artifacts and noise. if you're doing ai gens then you should use one of the others
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>>8110448
use a faster esrgan model for your highres fix upscale, you wont see the benefits from a higher quality but slower model if it's in the middle of the process
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is there some special thing i should be doing beyuond using the presets on kohya?
i am not able to copy the style on pony i sue to be be on 1.5
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>>8110465
i include the artist tag on pony
never got good style results without
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>>8110465
>is there some special thing i should be doing beyuond using the presets on kohya?
never use the presets
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>>8110464
No I tested it as the final upscaler in extras tab and it was blurry. 4x_NMKD_siax200k was also clear than 4kNomos.
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>>8110469
please share results
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>>8110465
Ask someone to post their settings.
>>8110470
Can't. I've been ranged banned due to "abuse." Can't even post catbox links.
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>>8110471
how fast does it complete the upscale? if it's as fast or faster than siax then it's not running. DAT is very slow
saw someone else having this "issue" but dat wasnt even running in a1111 lol
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>>8110473
DAT slowness is a feature
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>>8110473
Very slow. On top of being much slower than the other two it's also blurry unfortunately.
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>>8110469
NTA but can confirm
I generally upscale with 4knomos at like x1.5 then I upscale again with 4x_nmkd_siax200k to get x2 the base resolution of the gen and it clears out the blurriness that 4knomos adds, the best you can do is play with both on a combo, generally to use 4knomos to go to big res then make your images sharp with nmkd_siax is the best way to do it, when you're looking for best results regardless of generation time ofc.
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>>8110475
>Very slow. On top of being much slower than the other two it's also blurry unfortunately.
I don't get why people suggest it so much
It really is actually BLURRY, unironically
I think Remacri is still top-tier
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>>8110467
but i thought pony hashed all their artist tags?
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>>8110469
What are you doing that it's blurry doe
Did you get a wrong version?
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what is the altyest go to model for makign loras noww?
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>>8110475
interesting
i'd suggest a model better fit for whatever you're doing but unfortunately i cant see what you're doing lol
if siax looks good to your eyes i wont stop you
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>>8110479
anon we are taling about loras
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>>8110475
nomos is grey as shit but i wouldn't say it's any more blurry than remacri
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>>8110480
I wish I could just post the pics anon. I really do, but you can test this yourself in extras tab. Don't do a grid or side by side, just gen two pics and let/right key them in an image viewer.
>>8110477
Wait so what's your process? Gen image, 1.5x 4knomos, then 2x siax200k as the second upscaler? Why not just use 2x alone? What benefit is 4knomos actually providing?
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>>8110486
well that's me
>>8110485 me
lol correction
it's actually remacri that's lightening it way up now that i look at the base image
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>>8110485
Look at the penis. Also gen a pic with some basic stuff in background like bed or plants/winds etc. You can see it on the nails too.
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>>8110478
4knomos is good because it does a lot of things, it's not just a slow ass upscaler. It can fix jpeg artifacts on it's own and also fix some things sometimes, but yes it adds some blur. You just need to use a second pass of an upscaler that makes things sharp like remacri or nmkd_siax and you're good
I personally use this combo to upscale some pics for my datasets that are below the 1024x1024 aspect ratio for SDXL training, I do it in the "extras" tab, it worked fine and it still does
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>>8110490
Remacri isn't actually that sharp, I use animesharp to get rid of heavy jpeg artifacts. And still, 4knomos never really impressed me, and considering its atrocious speed, it doesn't feel like it's worth it.
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just use lanczos upscale retards
it literally doesn't matter if you use something else but it gives you speed
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>>8110494
based retard
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>>8110494
this, lanczos and nnedi3 is all you need
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>>8110300
>My hero academia 429 preview,
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>>8110491
Yeah I gen with a 4090 so I can allow myself to wait a little more just to use 4knomos, but if u don't have top tier gpu and doesn't want to wait literally minutes of generation then don't use it, simple as
But regardless of that, I 100% recommend using it along with a second pass of nmkd_siax when you're upscaling some pics for your dataset, it's the best combo I've got to upscale non-ai pics too, specially 2D pics
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While you're talking about upscaler, is there a good one for 3d?
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>>8110498
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only retarded zoomers use anything but nearest neighbor
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>>8110503
if you're wasting your time with anything besides bilinear you're ngmi
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>>8110500
Dunno, I'm not a dp3d so I really haven't tried to find the best upscaler or combo for 3D, still, I thing this is the wrong place to ask for something like that
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>controlnet groidspam
grim
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>>8110508
I think* gah
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>>8110509
Looks good to me, I don't mind
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>>8110509
Anything but the actual groidie is totally fine at this point
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>>8110509
finally took my advice
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>>8110498
>>8110501
why is this bitch always getting fucked by black dudes, no really I dont read this manga
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>>8110515
I asked this question myself several times. Someone said that it's due to main character being a weak boring loser and it's fun to cuck him.
I can relate to that desu but I'd rather gen her with ugly jap bastards then.
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>>8110514
Upscale with a lower denoise strenght or you'll keep getting 6 fingers
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>>8110517
>I can relate to that desu
i think his name is actually deku
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>>8110512
hdg has fallen
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>>8110515
That >>8110517 and also because she's basically poor so cuckies likes to imagine that she's cucking the main character in order to get some bucks, or just make her a literal whore that sucks dick for money on the night streets
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Euler vs Euler A
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Prodigy makes it less likely to burn your bakes but how many steps do you go for when training characters? the rentry in op said 800-1000 generally. My characters are not that complicated so they all fit in 16/16
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>>8110521
Yeah that's right.
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>>8110515
>el generico ugly bitch mc from the anime of the century
>the boy is a sissy
the law of the normalfag applies
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>>8110525
why do people go by steps when they are like 10000 variables that change them
i will never get it
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>>8110523
>a literal whore that sucks dick for money on the night streets
Decoupled from the whole NTR bullshit, I absolutely love the trope of girls doing this and then convincing their friends to do it too
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>>8110524
>shite vs bigger shite
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>>8110530
Based. I love prostitution but completely indifferent to NTR.
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>>8110530
Reminds you of family time, eh?
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>>8110523
>>8110527
fair enough I did not like Naruto on the limited amount I read and I'm ugly bastarding Hinata every chance I get

>>8110519
Nice
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>>8110529
how do you do it
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>>8110535
Also the two demographics drawing anime porn both have incentives to do BBC NTR
lol
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>>8110535
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>>8110537
Epochs
Like I'll take the 15th epoch of a 120 image bake and then the 6th of a 60 image one you can't really expect one step count to be the one
But obviously those also depend on your other settings, just make a couple of tests
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>>8110541
That's a pretty small cock though
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>>8110546
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>>8110546
It's the next level of ntr
Now the black man gets cucked by the even blacker man
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>>8110541
>>8110550
kek
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>>8110482
anytest literally never worked
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i've got an inkling that a huge artist (500k+ twitter followers) has referenced two gens now that i've done
i could just be completely up my own ass but still don't wanna draw attention to it even if i'm right
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>>8110563
dont share anything online, contact a lawyer immediately you could be in for a huge plagarism payday
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>>8110563
share a catbox of one of the offending works and your corresponding gen
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>nai can do sunglasses where you can see the eyes through them
>pony cant
stupid garbage fried ass model i hate it so much
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>>8110567
we're never getting a better local model btw
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>>8110567
black cocks yeah!!!
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>>8110568
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
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>>8110567
how do you get *consistent* see-through sunglasses on nai?
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>>8110563
I wonder if my newer gens got uploaded anywhere again
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>>8110567
>literally was just making images of this on pony
Huh?
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>>8110567
holy mother of skill issues
this is a (You) problem retard
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>>8110569
Dont forget the orcs
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>>8110579
Those are some pretty basic compositions, I think you're being a little bit of a schizo
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>>8110579
those are both completely generic image compositions you schizo
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>>8110572
you cant, its gacha
but at least it being gacha means you can reroll some inpaint on it till you get it
pony on the other hand, kicks you in the balls and gives you the middle finger
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>>8110581
>>8110582
damb lol
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>deleted
oh no no non time to checkout another "coincidence"
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>>8110579
congrats on having a pic do well on twitter bud
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>>8110583
>but at least it being gacha means you can reroll some inpaint on it till you get it
Well I had really shit luck unless I researched the tags for sunglasses, did some gens few weeks ago
Some negs do help
But honestly the inpaint model really is very convenient.
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lul
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>My hero academia 429 preview
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>>8110590
Is this like an inside weeb joke I'm not getting?
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I wish someone would do the funniest thing and leak NAI again. Or at least if you're not gonna do that let people use LoRAs
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mature women in sports bra. yoga to get rid of postpartum chub
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>>8110592
transfer that vibe, bro!
or use the inpaint trick!
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>>8110589
(repost)
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>>8110587
Their inpaint model is the greatest thing and I would say it's the only thing that makes it the pony's biggest nemesis
If we had a model just like that but available on local it would be so over for NAI honestly
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just bake the 201nd lora incel
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>>8110591
No, he just likes to gen mha ntr and he has my respect for sticking to it
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totally organic posts
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>>8110600
>>8110590
Is the small dick guy supposed to be deku?
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>>8110603
always
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You can either have a porsche, but you're only allowed to drive it around a 300sq ft garage or you can have a rusty trabant that'll take you everywhere
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>>8110542
Aren't epochs and steps inextricably linked? Like in your example there is a particular step count above which *that dataset* was fit which you determined to be the 15th or 6th epoch. As far as I'm concerned if you've cooked it for "long enough" and it didn't fry it should be fine. You then test it afterwards to see how fine it is.
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>>8110607
Holy that's so accurate lmfao
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imo mha has ugly artstyle and ugly characters, i don't care if people post it or like it tho
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>>8110567
Inpaint sunglesses with see-through. You should get it on the first try.
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>>8110608
well yeah but those end up being completely different step amounts
i bake 15 epochs and then select and the end steps will obviously vary a lot by image amount
if i just baked by steps i'd either underbake big sets or overbake small ones
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>>8110607
High IQ post.
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>>8110607
You can either have a porsche, but you're only allowed to drive it around your city or you can have a rusty trabant that'll take you everywhere
That would be more correct. I don't need to visit the furry smegma city, I'm fine at my hometown.
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>>8110617
I'd like to drive to lora city and cn town
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>>8110617
Not having loras is a massive restriction though. I can't be your hometown, maybe your neighborhood.
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>>8110567
Bwo?
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>>8110611
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>>8110599
>>8110620
Banger gens my good men.
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>>8110620
>those screentones
holy mother of slop, fuck sdxl's vae
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>>8110614
Just for shits and giggles from my character lora final steps
Theoretically I should bake 1800 steps because one lora needed it but that's just mean i overbake the others twice and waste time
Epoch just fix that because the training is roughly proportional to image amount
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>>8110625
>training is roughly proportional to image amount
in my case it has needed more than that. I usually use 50 images or so and I need like 15 epochs at least
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>>8110628
which like i said depends on the other settings
the point is more than an arbitrary step amount would mean wasting time or underbaking other loras depending on the image amount (which is generally about proportional to steps, because most of my datasets are ~80 images)
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>>8110621
Cloud has a big sword...
One genpic of him an tifa fucking pls
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>>8110484
why would you put an artist tag in a lora? literally every tag is an artist tag lol
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>>8110631
that's Sephiroth....
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>>8110635
Bullshit. Everyone knows FF7R confirmed Sephiroth is gay for Cloud.
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>>8110579
They do look alike but what can you do even if that was true, complain about people copying you while using ai?
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>CivitAI down
REEEEEE I HAVE BUZZ I WANT TO SPEND FAGGOTS, LET ME GEN
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>>8110639
good morning saar
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>>8110639
What do you spend it on?
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>>8110641
Basketball dudes
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>>8110634
because it works
what can i say
it wasn't needed on 1.5 i'll agree but the difference on pony are night and day
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>>8110648
I have never used an artist tag, got any comparison?
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>>8110447
I made one last night but its incredibly scuffed, I wont be sharing it just yet. I think I need more SFW images for the dataset.

Anyone got any good places for SFW images for datasets? I haven't seen too many good ones on the normal boorus.
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>>8110663
eh would have to look in the archive but there's way too much shit with "artist tag"
i can give you an image looking like an artist because people complain pony artist loras don't look like them lol
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>>8110648
this isn't true at all though
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>>8110670
womm *shrug*
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>>8110668
Yeah I know thats not true, some lora I have look really like the artist but I didnt have to use the artist tag
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>>8110667
sounds like you need to gen an absolute fuck load of gens with your scuffed lora to get a few more good images for the dataset
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>>8110672
>some lora I have look really like the artist
Nogen?
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I've read that people have had some success creating XL Loras without captions. Has anyone here tried that?
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>>8110621
>buster sword
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>>8110678
Im obviously not talking about lora I made you really think not a single lora out here get close to the artist style without using tags?
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>>8110621
>>8110631
Gen this, but the other guy is Sephiroth with a two foot pencil dick.
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>>8110684
Was girthy enough for aerith
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>>8110672
>>8110678
My nakamura regura lora has no artist tag.
https://files.catbox.moe/a0oecy.png
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>>8110674
right now im getting stuff like this with the current version of the lappov lora I made. I want it to be more leaning back onto the viewer but Im having a really hard time pulling it off. This is just an example of the lora tho.
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>>8110690
Shuten anon is the only one I've seen that successfully did this consistently, and that was on NAI.
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>>8110690
That distance between legs is absolutely impossible with how parallel to each other they are. That would be one hell of a thigh gap.
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>>8110690
that looks about what autism can do when prompted pov sitting on lap, but worse perspective somehow
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>>8110688
I instantly got a craving for milf hunting shota just by seeing this picture so I would say its accurate
Where did you get it?
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>>8110681
I was the one that did the test for this a long time ago. It works but it's very settings dependent to even work correctly and is not recommended. You're better off using Tagger at 0.35 and not proofreading than rolling the dice with no tags. The gist of the result was that the no tags lora would basically copy and paste the dataset rather than take inspiration from it and do inference. I was able to make near 1:1 recreations of the dataset which actually isn't what you want.
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Are embeddings placebo
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>>8110631
>>8110684
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>>8110696
I made it. I don't think I can even post the link because I think that's what dumb mods banned me for. Filter evasion or some shit.
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SPH NTR BBC NGMI?
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>>8110694
I did get real lucky with this one, but its been hard to replicate

https://files.catbox.moe/6qmj4z.png
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>>8110701
You cant get banned for posting a link to a lora, like what even would be the reason?
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>>8110702
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>>8110703
>fucked up legs
not even worth using as dataset filler. shame. keep it up though a good lora for this would be great
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Are tonguejobs /d/?
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>>8110707
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>>8110704
>This post is intentionally avoiding spam/post filters
Can't think of any reason why I'd get ranged banned because I barely post pictures here and don't even use any other boards but I link a lora yesterday. As usual, mods and janitors are retarded on every single board. I'm seriously considering just fucking off to treechan because I'm sick of this shit.
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>>8110711
post it on litterbox but run the link through b64 if you're stressed
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>>8110707
Am I blind? Where is the tonguejob lora? Can pony really do this out of the box?
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>>8110711
That doesnt really make sense to me because people were posting lora for loli stuff hosted on mega and all the post are still up, thats a shame you cant share it tho
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>>8110713
https://litter.catbox.moe/n2hcft.safetensors
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>>8110711
AAHAHAHAHA
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>>8110714
Bro, it was trained on furry, why wouldn't it be able to...
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>>8110714
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>>8110714
>Can pony really do this out of the box?
Not with any real consistency. It feels more like I'm tricking it by using the "between breasts" tag so the tongue and the penis are kind of being aimed there. Otherwise you get a lot of times where it's just a bunch of rings made out of tongues around the dick and doesn't look all that great.
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>>8110707
if they are i declare sovereignty from /h/
>>8110714
yes, it's very easy, anon has a severe skill issue
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>>8110727
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>>8110737
>the framed picture
lol
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>>8110738
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>>8110329
>>8110333
Late to reply but I was a treechan poster (not the other stuff) and no ban. The mods just delete multiple posts at once you doorknob. I've seen and had it happen here many times before.
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>>8110740
why does he always look so feminine
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>>8110741
>I was a treechan poster
Kill yourself ^*^
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>>8110321
this one I've used for months
https://civitai.com/models/350808
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>>8110690
your seems to be heavily under baked, assuming your images are of good quality, but this lora is pretty hard to get right, my attempt is *decent* but still not good enough to share
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>>8110338
Russian FSB agent
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>>8110748
That looks better than mine.

how many images did you have in your data set I had around 60-70 but a lot weren't the right pov and I think It threw it all off.
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what if i gather 2000 high quality pink/neutral toned images
can anyone make a lora out of this and merge it with pony? or finetune?
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>>8110743
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>>8110744
If you personally move to treechan and never come back, I will
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>>8110751
only 8, probably need slightly more though
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>>8110690
>>8110748
Why haven't either of you posted your datasets?
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>>8110759
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>>8110648
parameter issue
>>8110681
i do it every once and a while by accident. it works and you can get some ok looking results for characters but it's not great for prompting. for styles it might be fine but it doesn't seem like there's really a point when you could just run everything through an auto tagger and get better results.
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>>8110765
/h/?
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>>8110757
damn only 8 images, and yours looks better than mine. I am new-ish to training and I only use the civ site to train, since I don't want to train locally on my 8gb card. I would if I had more vram.

I think I'll try trimming down my dataset and doing it with less images like yours.
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So, let's have pov lap lora competitions
lol
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>>8110768
>training on civ
as expected of the elegg poster
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>>8110770
no
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>>8110773
you can't stop me
training rn
unironically
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>>8110762
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>>8110770
I'm good with controlnet
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>>8110768
>I don't want to train locally on my 8gb card. I would if I had more vram.
what's wrong with 8gb of vram?
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>>8110770
You'd think this would be a collaboration where everyone would be helping each other out since the goal was to make a lora for /hdg/. Instead it's about looking cool.
>>8110768
Less images means more focus on the few pics in the dataset rather than trying to figure out the similarity from many pictures. High chance of overfitting though but I imagine that's okay in this case.
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I assume we're talking about that back to viewer from top perspective because regular ones are really easy to gen
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>>8110772
I think I've made a few decent loras with the civ trainer so I don't think its too bad. its a good first step into training before I upgrade my GPU eventually

>>8110778
I always hear it's too low for reliable local training, and I like being able to do other stuff on my PC and gen while stuff is training.
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>>8109807
catbox?
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>>8110782
>decent loras with the civ trainer
no such thing, sorry
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>>8110794
https://files.catbox.moe/ijp97t.png
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>>8110782
>I always hear it's too low for reliable local training
my current training settings use around 6.6gb of vram at batch size 1 and around 6.3 if i enable bf16 training. an 8gb card should be able to train sdxl at batch size 2. i think that bs3 might also be possible if you're willing to use bf16 and min/max your dataset footprint and not use the gpu for anything during training
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>>8110798
wow that's even more pedophilic than the pedofag, congrats!
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>>8110802
share your config - have 8gb and can hardly even think of training
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>>8110804
>than the pedofag
which one of the billion that reside here
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>>8110808
they are the borg
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>>8110806
https://files.catbox.moe/uo9qfa.json
this is configured for bs3 training so you need to turn down the LR if you go under that.
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>>8110814
>>8110806
also if you're at batch size 2 or 3 your dataset will largely determine your vram consumption and i don't know why. i have datasets OOM with this config and then i add or remove a few training images and it reduces the vram consumption by 1-2gb. if you are having a hard time training at 8gb that might be why. i don't know if that issue will also apply to batch size 1 since i think it's related to bucketing
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Hi, new here. I just installed the WebUI thing, but my images are total dogshit and not anime at all. I've been told I need to look into getting a model, or something?
I literally have no clue, so any help/advice is appreciated.
Ass for attention.
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>>8110822
1. I recommend installing forge if thats not what you are using.

2. Download AutismMixConfetti Model, or another popular mix

3. Copy other anons prompts from catbox's to learn
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>>8110822
https://civitai.com/models/288584/autismmix-sdxl
Try this model, or autism_confetti.
Also change your webui_user to this if you're on a low/mid end computer and your generations take 5+ minutes.
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>>8110690
Thank you Miqoanon for your model, my sex scenes are coming out better than they do on raw AutismMix
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>>8110519
controlnet or insane gamba?
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>>8110827
I installed the AUTOMATIC1111 webui thing, is that not good?
>>8110828
I have a RTX3070, I would hope that's okay?
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>>8110746
box?
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>>8110835
A1111 is probably better at this point unless you have no vram
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>>8110835
Yeah I use RTX3070 as well. There are some things your PC may not be able to run efficiently, like Adetailer or HiResFix for pics above 1400x1400 on SDXL models, but basic image generation is fine.
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>>8110842
baka bro i know this is controlnet because i posted that image
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>>8110834
cnet
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>>8110837
>>8110839
Thank you for the help.
One more question - is there a way to see which prompts people used for their images, like with NAI?
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controlnet spam is so boring
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>>8110849
i'd enjoy it more if i didn't see all the same three images i saw in april
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>>8110831
Thanks, glad you are enjoying it.

>>8110835
I suggest Forge since I have low VRAM, and I was guessing you had lower end hardware. if you have more than 8gb of VRAM, you should be fine with the standard A1111 webui,

Forge is a modified version of the front end you are on now that is more optimized for lower-end hardware with some add-ons built in.
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>>8110848
Generally we upload the raw images to Catbox so they can be ran through PNG Info, but there are extensions that allow you to see the metadata as well.
https://files.catbox.moe/p9795k.png
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>8/345 [00:15<11:02, 1.97s/it, avr_loss=0.054]
Ok bros I'm joining in on the laps
lol
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>>8110862
so cute
https://files.catbox.moe/j7jia2.webp
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>>8110699
anyone?
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>>8110867
it's a better concept than execution
there's a reason people stopped making them circa 2022
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>>8110844
This is in fact not control net
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>>8110860
i have utterly failed
go on boys
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>>8110723
It's much easier with a long tongue character than with just an OC 1girl. And it's easier on base pony, as are most concepts.
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>>8110839
Oh we can go as high as 1400x1400 base res?
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Is it possible to gen stuff like this with SD? I only managed this with NAI.
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>>8110886
only NAI can do bbc
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>>8110882
Ah interesting. I've pretty much exclusively used autismmix since I started with pony so I've never actually used the base model.
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>>8110886
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>>8110855
I'm trying some gens - is it supposed to take 5-10 minutes for a pic? Quality's pretty iffy, too...
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Is there a way to look through popular pivix artists without having to pay? Add-on or something? I want inspo for style loras and I've completely tapped out sadpanda.
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>>8110886
catbox? looks good
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>>8110896
You can try Forge https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge or reForge https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge

Though A1111 with that GPU shouldn't be that slow. Are you using xformers, sdpa?
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>>8110886
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>>8110903
I changed to the following settings, from the default:
1024x1024
Euler A
30 steps, cfg 5
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Any advice on how to get 'balls deep'?
The civitai lora is too style-heavy, is there any other option?
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>>8110925
no other option right now. try using the lora with 0.2-0.5 weight
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>>8110925
anytest controlnet
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>>8110925
If you're gonna try wrangling the prompt, it's balls deep and deep penetration. Also reduce emphasis on penis or remove penis prompt entirely, although that also reduces girth. Inpainting is really difficult, you'd have to crop out the whole girl and move her downwards. Also controlnet.
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What does 'step' mean in the context of OneTrainer training a Lora? The dataset has around 100 images but it's only doing 27 steps per epoch. Another Lora I just trained had around 60 images and around 60 steps iirc, and it took significantly longer for each epoch. The console output isn't very descriptive of anything relating to the number 27.

I'm just concerned that it's only using 27 of the images rather than all of them, or something
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>>8110926
At that weight the dick slides SLIGHTY deeper than without the lora. I guess it's something.
>>8110938
Yeah I use both to no avail.
>>8110933
>>8110938
>controlnet
How? using a pic for reference or something like openpose?
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>>8110941
what's your batch size
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>>8110941
epoch x images x repeats / batches
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>>8110944
I haven't touched them, just started using this trainer today (with Pony XL). The settings should be the same as the previous Lora so it would stand to reason that it should be more steps/ longer per epoch for the Lora with more images?
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can you have a neg also prompt with a wildcard? in my character wildcard, some characters would do well with one or two negs but having them on all the time would just hurt the rest of them
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>>8110945
>batch size 4
yeah it's just divided
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>>8110942
reference image
openpose on XL is not very good
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>>8110941
a step is one update of the gradients or whatever
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>>8110945
your total image count wouldn't happen to be 108, would it? (steps are image count divided by batch size)
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>>8110947
There's 132 images in the dataset, so shouldn't it be 33 steps rather than 27?
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been fucking around with turning 2d girls 3d and im amazed at how easy it is to get a good looking result
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>>8110952
no
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>>8110953
fuck off and go to b you literal retard.
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>>8110953
>3d
>good looking
You're on the wrong board, pal
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>>8110953
so, why did you post that failed attemp?
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>>8110953
kek
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>>8110953
pic not related
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>>8110953
Based 3dbro
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>>8110953
https://litter.catbox.moe/1imidk.jpg
ama
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>>8110974
i hate both, so ill ask this. why do you even want this
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>>8110953
>3d
Why do people keep posting on the wrong board?
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>>8110953
Even if it was good you had to know people would respond this way. The only thing that stops people from shitposting would be a genuine effort post and even then some will shitpost about your mistake in the far corner.
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or we just realize that ai actually does look like shit and has only gotten worse the past year
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>>8110953
>3d
Why do people keep having the wrong tastes?
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>>8110985
That's why you're still using 1.5 right nogenerate-kun?
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>>8110953
dont listen to the one anon samefag spamming you with replies, this looks great
whats the lora?
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>>8110985
>no gen
Opinion discarded.
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HELP >>8110992
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>>8110992
uh-oh, that's a vacation
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>>8110997
Terrific
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last. bai bai

>>8110999
nice trips
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>>8110977
It's new and different, same reason people try any other fetish. I already img2img random pixiv images and 3dp to see what they'd look like in other styles, this is just one or two extra ones.

>>8110981
Yeah /aco/ would be more receptive to this. But normally it's hard to talk about it anywhere, either the source or destination image is off-topic.
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>>8111006
>same reason people try any other fetish
this is degenerate behavior
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this thread is so boring
can we get some discord screenshots from cascade or wdV
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>>8111010
I can gen you something in the newest cascade epoch
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>>8111014
as long as its ghislaine /e/
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>>8111018
that's reserved for our beloved pal, b-. sorry.
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>>8110992
retard
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>>8111010
here you go. neggles wanted to release a prototype of the model yesterday but more typos in his trainer code caused it to be pushed back yet again, another restart from zero. now with a declaration: the prototype is no more than 64 days away!
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>>8111007
not him but I have gen bestiality, interspecies, interracial and even yaoi out of boredom but after doing all of that I realized that vanilla POVs are really my shit
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>>8111010
im working on a 10+ page comic that is wholesome, cut me some slack
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>>8110998
I wish the spread navel tag worked
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>>8111029
>yaoi out of boredem

gae
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>>8111029
>last few years went from degenerate maledom bondage shit to happy missionary sex with a slight femdom streak
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>>8111032
I do like some otoko no ko from time to time, I must admit
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I love hags bros
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>>8111036
it's old style bishi for me
nostalgic
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>>8111029
you do you, but ill stick to what i like. handholding, vanilla, tomboys, tanlines, happy sex, and flat chests (no cunny)
i will not fall to the slippery slope of degeneracy
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>>8111027
finally some good fucking food
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>>8111035
Yeah, all this IA shit made me realize what I truly like
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>>8110953
Looks like a PS1 FMV
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>>8111040
Like that anon I went through the uncanny valley of degeneracy and came out the other side returning back to vanilla missionary pov with waifu loras. I'd say I'm better for the experience.
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>>8111040
>i will not fall to the slippery slope of degeneracy
and that's completely fine bro, keep it up
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>>8111031
How...how do you even do this in real life...?
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>>8111037
belly grabbing hags for hours until your hands become an amalgam mass with their stomachs
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>>8111029
You say this but it's only because POV is really easy to gen compared other shit.
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>>8111048
this guy gets it
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Holy shit, I'm too addicted on (You)s bros. Every time I'm getting a huge dopamine rush
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>>8111031
>>8109243
I got this from pure coincidence
>>8111047
Anon we know you can't see yours but come on
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Waifu for love and a second girl for every degen lora i can find
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>>8111049
I can also gen 3rd person view just fine, which I also like but not as much
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>>8111056
That's the cuck pov so good
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>>8111052
Anon come on. The navel is a firm small hole. It's like trying to spread your urethra.
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>>8111031
Try with "belly grab" and "hand on own stomach". Those were the only ones I used
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>>8111059
>The navel is a firm small hole
Oh nooooo...
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>>8111062
bros....
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lappov v2 is much improved, still figuring out the little kinks and stuff. May need to retrained again but its better than my first one.
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>>8110192
i would theoretically accept synthetic data in a lora but not a checkpoint
but i dont count on anyone using high enough standards in choosing samples for a synthetic set in the first place
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>>8111064
might need to workshop it a bit, her shoulders are at dick level and the guy has 3 legs
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>>8111067
i have 3 legs if you know what i mean heyooooo
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>>8111066
Miqomix model was made with synthetic data.
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>>8111037
same but only /fit/ ones
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>>8111073
most of the current wave of slop are heavily using synthetic data, particularly NAI gens
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>>8111047
You just spread it, whats wrong with you?
>>8111060
Yeah but its really rng sadly
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>>8111064
thats not sitting on lap thats sitting between legs
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>>8111037
Based
I wish real artists didn't draw "milfs" as looking basically the same as regular women, it makes looking for hag images so impossible
like this gen
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>pony v7
literally radio silence
>cascade
literally who cares about cascade
>wdv
literally pushed back again.
maybe local open source won't win this one...
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>>8111088
maybe you should get back to posting black dicks so you're easier to filter
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>>8110953
that looks like shit
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nai bbc bros...
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>>8111097
please gen her with her 10 year old biological son
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>>8111094
what happened
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>>8110464
i have done some A/B with higher quality interim upscalers, but it's been a while and there may be better choices now
i definitely remember getting better sharpness and clarity on the final denoise with 4x-animesharp over more basic upscalers. the rest of my memory is vague on the comparison i did but i chose this as a general purpose scaler:
https://huggingface.co/uwg/upscaler/blob/main/ESRGAN/4x_NMKD-Superscale-SP_178000_G.pth

more importantly, i havent touched the regular hiresfix block of my workflow in ages, i use kohya hiresfix/deep shrink with no extra upscaling almost exclusively
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>>8111102
>i use kohya hiresfix
Is it really that much better?
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I wonder what NAIdandies are going to do when all artist tags get removed.
How will they get their delicious nyantcha BBC then?
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Discord is the bane of local. As soon as a trainer gets the slightest bit of attention and makes a discord he'll spend all his time sharing his life philosophy with the 13 year olds that hang out there instead of reading papers and writing code.
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>freetards still making up fantasies based on their reality
GRIM!
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guys its not letting me sign up for nai wtf do i do now
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>>8111099
that's him he ate a lot of cheese
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>>8111111
>sextups of truth
I... kneel...
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I love explosions bros
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>>8111128
>no asymmetrical legwear
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>>8111131
>no gen
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>>8111128
Nice texture.
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>>8111128
why is arue so much hotter than her?
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>>8110719
Thanks, works perfectly
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>>8111107
overall, definitely. it took me extra work in figuring out but i stuck with it because the benefits were overwhelmingly clear. we have the technology.
it has problems with general decoherence. keep this in mind when tinkering around with it, and deciding when to change up and try base gens at a normal resolution. extra tech like SMEA, align your steps, etc helps recover most of the coherence you lose in choosing a higher base resolution. giving the model more pixels to work with is a tremendous boon.

also configure it something like this, end percent >=50% is important
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>>8110719
aww. link is now broken.
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>>8111131
Is this on-model enough for you?
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>>8111143
since youre using comfy can you give hidiffusion a try and report back its basically deepshrink but different?
not sure if this is the only node released for it
https://github.com/blepping/comfyui_jankhidiffusion
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>>8111157
quite close but her hat always points right i believe
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>average ai cock is >35cm
>but genning them real size look kinda weird
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>>8111158
interesting, same idea but more complex
i found a few nodes on comfy manager, checking em out
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>>8111131
Model I'm using would probably explode if I tried.
>>8111138
Thanks, it's just post processing on a mediocre gen. Clipping the dynamic range + grain + texturizer.
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>thinking back to not that long ago
>seventy folds japanese steel shitmixes
>trying to mix ancient models just to get lines that don't look like hot garbage
>trying to mix out 3d garbage out of the stuff we have
>autistically testing the 200 models we got just last month to find something less shit
>it still barely did 1girl standing
makes me appreciate what we have now so much more bros
unironically
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>>8111111
Witnessed
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>>8111111
It's so annoying when they try to divert every conversation on their server to be about them. As soon as that starts happening, all of the people worth discussing with see the writing on the wall and gtfo, without fail. Every trainer that isn't mentally ill like this gets hired by legitimate companies to do that work and no longer contributes to local.
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>>8111111
It's the death of everything
>used to be forums where you could find something literally 16 years after
>generally open and relatively friendly
>knowledgable people doing shit for free and even paying for it
nowadays it's the midlet making a mediocre thing and making a community about it demanding cash and attention for it until they get embroiled in some tranny drama and probably molest some kids along the way that ends up permanently erasing that knowledge because it was all on shitty non permanent chats
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>>8110719
>>8111150
https://litter.catbox.moe/sk1g4q.safetensors
Didn't notice the timer.
>>8111184
Yeah I was complaining the other day about non povs or full body shots looking worse than closeups but then I realized the tech has come a long way. You might need a bit of wrangling to get some non basic poses but it *is* possible. Hopefully in a few years time we can get a truly good model where you just type what you want and get it and this will all really take off.
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>>8111184
The leap from 1.5 to pony is so insane it cant even be put into words.
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>>8111111
unironically how astratroon got his undeserved, overinflated ego and began actively regressing any chance at making a new model worth using
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which nintendo princess mario byproduct is your favorite
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>>8110997
Anytest controlnet truly is magic. Thanks for the image, anon.
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>>8111199
fuck you're giving me ptsd from the skyrim modding community. 500 different discord servers you have to go into to find outfit mods, schizo tranny drama.... and than eventually it'll all be gone, not even archived anywhere.
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>>8111200
>>8111202
Just being able to do sex that isn't some fucked up eldritch abomination is amazing
Not to say literally everything else like gestures, styles, positions, fetishes, characters
Like, not needing the 70 loras I had just to gen a fucked up thing is good. There's a reason I only have a couple of 1.5 sex pics saved kek
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>>8111200
Thanks
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>>8111210
Kek, at least I always stayed here and on Plebbit for my news. But I do know of the servers.
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>>8111206
Try the new xinsirAIO control net.
https://huggingface.co/xinsir/controlnet-union-sdxl-1.0
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>>8111215
ipadapter doko?
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>>8111048
https://files.catbox.moe/gx63fw.jpg
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>>8111214
the shittiest part is if you're into any little niche, you'll miss out on a ton of stuff by limiting yourself to 4chan and plebbit. its a fucking headache though
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>>8111205
I quite like Shokora just because she's from the best platformer ever created.
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>>8111215
so the models aren't split? it's just one 2.5gb file? how do you tell it waht to do then
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>>8111223
Yeaah. Fortunately after some experiences exactly as expected I convinced my friend to get Element and we just chat there. The amount of petty autism from tumblerites that happens on those discords is literally mentally devastating. Never again.
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>>8111226
box? Penis always breaks the shirt when I do this, even with no penis in prompt.
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>>8111158
this node is incompatible with the euler SMEA samplers, gives sizes it doesnt want to work with
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>>8111227
It can use different preprocessors afaik
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>>8111231
>The amount of petty autism from tumblerites that happens on those discords is literally mentally devastating.
god its so true, woke rhetoric is the true cancerous aids that ruins everything
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>>8111235
no that's not really what i meant
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>>8111099
https://files.catbox.moe/whwvio.png
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>>8111027
holy kek its real
>>8111088
here is an update on pony posted 2 days ago. He's not being radio silent, anons just want to doom about everything.
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>>8111234
weird
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>>8110276
it's pretty much exactly how 1.5 controlnet tile was, maybe actually a bit stronger.
it's only good/useful for upscaling but it's pretty good for that. Run it with .45~ weight, .35~ end step and crank denoise to .8(I'm not kidding).
And with end step that early you can adjust your prompt and it'll be able to pick up minor adjustments without too much issue.
a working example;
lowres https://files.catbox.moe/tx3j0d.png
upscale 2x2 with an adjusted prompt https://files.catbox.moe/occo9s.png
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>>8111232
https://files.catbox.moe/lgr307.png
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>>8111243
>precum stain
huh maybe that's it thanks.
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>>8111221
>>8111238
based
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>>8111233
or ah, it's more complex than that, one of the nodes doesn't like resolutions that aren't scale of 64 or maybe 128, it is quite janky
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>>8111244
nah it just works on my end with or without
maybe you were unlucky with your sampler tags or artists or whatever
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>>8111241
I think anytest does the same thing, just with less different cnets
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>>8110804
I don't know, it just looks uncanny-realistic, could be a 30 year old.
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>>8111234
The 2.51 GB file work same as anytest controlnet?
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>>8111248
i'm interested in the scribble model but it looks like they uploaded the same 2.5gb file to like 5 different places but with different filenames lol

would it kill these people to do some data hygeine
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>>8111215
why should I use this over the CN I already have?
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>>8111253
it's a new model with more training or something so it could be better
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>>8111221
>>8111238
more like this
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>>8111267
newfag or groidnigga
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>>8111267
who care about some alternate universe
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>>8111267
to be honest this tech in general is a massive waste of time
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>>8111267
it hasn't even been that bad in the last few weeks
and it's not like you have to look that far back to see what lack of progress does to this general, just look at most of last year before naiv3
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>Final update to Reforge
>Gens get better/faster with new Schedule type
Why the hell did I wait so long? Time to test.
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>>8111246
this is annoying because my favorite frame is 3:4 portraits at 1.5x scale
there is also annoyance at this node does a global patch so you can't A/B quickly, there's a runaround
not sure if it's a significant improvement over kohya, have to investigate the extra features but those require finnagling due to resolution incompatibilities
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>>8111276
catbox? Trying to get similar anime style.
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>>8111267
What the fuck is this meme about the lack of local progress? Do anons forget how long we were stuck with models that literally could barely do anything beyond a girl standing?
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>>8111270
maybe it really is true that some people can't understand conditional hypotheticals...
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>>8111279
zoomzooms are like that unironically
plus it's obviously the groidie trying to stir shit
or an extreme newfag but that's basically the same thing
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>>8111279
did you just wake up from a coma? that was over 8 months ago
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>>8111283
I will never forgive short form garbage like tiktok for what it has done to zoomers kek
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>>8111281
I understand it I just dont care about speculating about such a boring subject
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>>8111285
At least they won't be insulted since they'll probably forget this conversation in 36s
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>>8111284
And? SD 1.5 released in October of 2022.
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>>8111276
>Align Your Steps
Fuck, I finally understand. Why did I wait so long to update, it's so better.
>>8111278
Here you go.
https://files.catbox.moe/045nip.png
I'm using my custom shitmix.
https://civitai.com/models/578947/2d-fish-or-pony-animemix
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>>8111286
okay anon, but how would you have felt yesterday evening if you hadn't eaten breakfast or lunch?"
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>>8111276
what does that even mean
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>>8111291
will try it out. thanks.
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>>8111279
>models that literally could barely do anything beyond a girl standing?
what's changed?
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>>8111293
https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/
A godly anon is updating forge with auto and comfy features.
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>>8111298
yeah but i checked it out yesterday and it was a total meme i want to know what changed
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>>8111298
is this worth bothering with, tired of changing repos
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>>8111297
full nelson reverse suspended congress was introduced
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>>8111300
Gen speed and new Sampling/Schedule options. There's a list on the repo.

>>8111302
Just install it over normal Forge. It's not prefect but it's more up to date than Forge which is months old.
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>>8111303
(from cuck pov)
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>>8111267
spammers are specific to this place, but pretty much every other ai general on this site (even on other sites) is slowing down
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>>8111272
>it hasn't even been that bad in the last few weeks
that doesn't mean the people who left because of it have came back, though
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>>8111308
you really are a newfag if you think there were notable people here in the last 1.5y
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>>8111309
I'm convinced you're retarded and can't understand basic concepts or are trying to troll with these replies. I will be ignoring you from here out.
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>>8111309
He didn't say anything about notable people?
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>people starved for progress
>absolutely refuse to try refining
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>>8111312
ignore it, it's a troll or room temp IQ, not worth the effort. note the desperate bait attempt.
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>>8111310
>>8111312
>>8111314
at least wait more than a minute each time retard baitkun
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>>8111314
confirmedx2 now that the refiner baiting came in.
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>>8111313
I used IP adapter with animagine and refined it in pony today
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>>8111313
using a 6gb lora isn't "progress," retard. Even worse that the actual process is a regression for multiple reasons.
go hop off a bridge already.
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>>8111312
nta but let's spell it for retards: importance of people who have left implies they were notable somehow
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>>8111316
these:
>>8111310
>>8111314
are both my posts, not trying to pretend they are more than one person. learn2read.
>>8111319
its bait, every time.
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https://litter.catbox.moe/h7y3oe.jpg
There is no story behind this.
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>>8111321
no, it implies that there were a lot of people posting prior to that, that left. sorry you're throwing a fit over your own kneejerk conclusion.
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>>8111319
continue to call it a "6gb lora", retard
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>try the reforge thing
>it looks slightly better on one seed and isnt much faster
ig
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>>8111327
I think the point is that someone is actually maintaining/updating it vs regular forge that will never get updates?
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>>8111327
Ays should be able to get away with as little as 12 steps
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>>8111325
>people who have left implies they have left
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>>8111328
but forge just works doe
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>>8111327
It wouldn't be much different from core forge, except with new things/updates depending of the branch
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>>8111333
and will never get any updates when new things come out, no bugfixes for the shit that is broken, etc. no one is forcing you to leave it, but I get the reasoning behind someone maintaining it on a new branch and kudos to that guy lol
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>>8111308
i'm not convinced that that many people left specifically because of the spam
after all, the other ai generals have also been bleeding posters at a similar rate
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>>8111326
it's exactly how you explain to use it though?
Well, actually, that's giving it too much credit. It's actually strictly worse due to how much prompt comprehension gets lost between the models and how you can't actually use lora's alongside the process(unless something like loractl works alongside it?).
So I guess you're right. It's a 6gb snapchat filter. My bad.
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>>8111334
the schedulers look interesting
but i'm not sure i want to spend time 1:1 testing and minmaxing another thing instead of genning and jerking off ngl
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>>8111329
Nice, I'm going to give it a try.
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given that pony and derivaties can make furry stuff theorically I should be able to use it to create monster sprites for a rpg maker game right? Has anyone dabbled with that here? also sprites, maps, etc
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>>8111337
everything is already explained for retards like (you) https://rentry.org/anypony-science
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>>8111336
the groider is just trying to bring attention to himself again
successfully
and he already outed his newfaggotry twice while at it
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>>8111342
whatever you say, retard-kun.
enjoy your shitty 6gb snapchat filter. just fuck off and stop bothering anyone else about it.
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>>8111343
I'm the one who originally asked the question and I although you have no reason to believe me, I'm not the groidfag. I figured he'd be inactive at this hour, not stalking the thread, but go figure.
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>>8111344
>absolute and reflexive denial
like clockwork
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>>8111158
the MSWSABBQ or whatever node has bugs related to resolution and how the gen is going
ive only found total consistency using square resolution, 1024 or 1536 or 2048 and so on
that node according to the paper is mostly a speedup, and when it was working in this node it wasnt doing much for SDXL
ill just need time to tinker to see if the base RAUnet node is better than kohya deep shrink.
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>>8111345
get a better hobby then faget newfag
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>>8111346
wait until he brings the groids
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>>8111271
dspbox?
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>>8111336
it's less "spam" and more the complete lack of any consistent or rational moderation.
Breasts too small? That's illegal in australia, enjoy your vacation.
Some guy literally copy/pasting posts and backlinking randomly to attempt(badly) at obfuscating that it's a spambot while posting shit intentionally trying to rile up fags that should really be in /pol/? Yeah bro, keep on truckin'. Oh, but those people reporting them for what they're doing? Nah that's not allowed, you're flooding the mod queue with 'false reports,' enjoy your 3d vacation.

I'm still around but man, it'd be a blatant fucking lie to say that my actual non-training related output hasn't dropped like a rock simply because anything I'd want to post is likely to result in vacation time.
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>>8111304
there are so many new samplers and shit to test now fucking hell
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>>8111352
this is an art from an artfag, dumdum
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>>8111360
WOOOW. How was I suppose to know that? Anon didn't explain itself. Nothing I could do!
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>>8111206
based
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>>8111357
time to test new samplers and schedulers,owari da...
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>>8111361
first of all, consider learning english
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>>8111366
only an hour to go on my x/y plot
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>>8111340
pretty good
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>>8111367
ack ack ack
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>>8111353
>16 steps/DPM++ 2S a/Align Your Steps GITS
>8.6 sec.
>pretty much 2x my speed from before
I came.
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>>8111271
catto box?
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>pony consistently making the characters piss out of their anus or vagina
I may be a virgin, but this still annoys me too much. Any fix?
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>>8111386
fix it before upscaling and/or in post by manually redrawing.
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>>8111386
It's random but sometimes it works. I think the base model makes a difference.
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>>8111354
tldr:its the fault of the completely inept jannies
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>>8111158
after some tinkering, i am optimistic that the base RAUnet node is a decent iterative improvement over kohya hiresfix
right now im trying to figure out good settings and test cases for RAUnet, then ill run a sample against the same seeds in kohya hiresfix
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>>8111433
and so im not totally nogen here's a catbox of my working settings for hidiff
https://files.catbox.moe/idvygb.png
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>gen
>forgot to remove Emphasis: original
Spoopy.
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>>8111448
hot
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>>8111448
>x-ray view of the inside of my penis (all the blood rushing to fill it) when i look at cute anime girls with enormous breasts
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>>8111452
uh.. m-mods?
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>>8111444
Nice gen.
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>>8111456
a little thing that i noticed, all the gens out of these horo cowgirls have had remarkably un-shitty teeth. across seeds, tweaking this and that, all decent enough for a bit of adetail. i typically expect a disaster 1/2 to 2/3 of the time out of a base gen
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all this six toed bullshit is skill issuing me up the fucking wall
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>8111460
Yeah, the teeth and her expression is really bringing the image together. I love it.

>>8111461
Inpaint it out bro.
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>>8111461
here anon let me help you. inpaint it with this
https://github.com/light-and-ray/sd-webui-lama-cleaner-masked-content
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>>8111462
it gives me optimism that this hidiff tech is a real innovation >>8111158
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Any tips on running forge on a low end pc? Can't use loras with it but could use them on A1111.
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>>8111267
it was even slower year ago
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>>8111464
>>8111462
Isn't pony incompatible with inpainting? Or they worked around that because I'm not up to date with the latest tech
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>>8111498
what are you talking about
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>>8111498
what did he mean
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>>8111498
what the actual fuck is this brain rotted IQ
yes its always been able to inpaint you fucking travesty of a poster
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>>8111461
>open up photoshop
>delete one toe
>i2i upscale
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>>8111498
who was phone?
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Huh?
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>>8111267
But it's far from being dead. Posting speeds are pretty good actually, they are not the issue with this place.
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it's my first time trying out this multidiffusion scaling method but the tile width doesn't go any further than 256 and I don't see any denoising strength
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>>8111530
but we're not going through a thread in a day and a half anymore.
that means it's dead.
all threads need to be as fast as a discord channel and filled with just as much shitposting.
t.some zoomer, probably.
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>>8111535
Bro that method was popular back then in 1.5.
Now you just hires or i2i with your desired upscaler and corrections done.
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>>8111535
why does it say free gpu
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>>8111535
Is that Auto1111? I use forge so I'm not familiar with their implementation of Multidiffusion but it looks like it does the scaling automatically.
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- On all levels except physical.
I am Indian.
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>>8110242
>use any kind of condom to visit it if you don't wanna get CCP aids
https://www.liblib.art/modelinfo/87e2cc2169934523a2ff82fb12e7206b?from=personal_page
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No matter what I try, I can't gen anything nearly as good as this guy. I just want to give up.
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>>8111539
even at the current speed, this thread is still faster than every imagegen discord that actually talks about imagegen
don't ask how i know...
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>>8111559
very funny
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>>8111557
bros.. it's.. it's kino
china gawds i kneel
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>>8111568
SOUL
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>>8111568
wow it looks better than cascade already
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>>8111568
nice sepia
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>>8111568
FUCK and I just signed up to nai.
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>>8111565
whats so funny
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>>8111570
>>8111571
>>8111573
>>8111574
we gotta move to china they have the SUPERIOR ai image gen
only 50 steps for this beauty
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>>8111568
winnie the poo, i kneel...
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>>8111577
wtf i love bing chilling now
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>>8111577
most /h/ gen itt style-wise
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so, min_snr_gamma and noise offset is bad for pony loras? what about loss type (l2, huber, etc.)?
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>>8111593
yinhsover
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>>8111595
fizrot and what other loras?

catbox?
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>converted all of my images to jpeg to save space
>just realized you can drag and drop the pngs to reload the exact settings used to generate that image
FUCK. I'm not even short on space, I just didn't want them as pngs.
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>>8111604
https://files.catbox.moe/tporx4.png
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>>8111609
Pretty sure it still works with .jpg.

If it doesn't work, you probably don't have webui stealth pnginfo extension yet.
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>>8111616
I mean I converted them to jpeg with another tool, They lost all the metadata.
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>>8110489>>8110599
>>8111206

link to loras?
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Info of the new samplers/schedulers added to reforge https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1dohy20/quick_overview_of_some_newish_stuff_in_comfyui/

(GITS, iPNDM, ODE, CFG++)
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>>8111620
interesting, been liking Beta scheduler on reforge.
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>>8111623
Nice, also it is configurable on Settings (alpha/beta). What settings are you using for those?
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>>8111627
I think defaults are nice, though haven't played around that much. Quite a lot of new things to test out.
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>>8111382
Can you post your multidiffusion settings? I want to give this another go. It didn't see much benefit last time.
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>>8111354
Fuck jannies. Also post catboxes. I was seething earlier about my range ban but at least I can catbox. The better alternative is to officially get out of here and move to treechan.
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>>8111456
moar Aerith.
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>>8111461
>prompt 5_toes
>never worry about this shit again
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>>8111577
You jest but those are some good colors.
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>>8111634
Explain to me why is it dead right now, despite it not having the issues that this place has right now
Are we all waiting for cascade to finish baking or smthn so we can post regularly there or what?
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>>8111640
Humans in general don't like change. I've been sitting on a very early version of Forge and have refused to pull for weeks. I'm finally giving ReForge a go.
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>>8111640
>why is an image board that is not 4chinz not as fast as 4chinz ???
gee
I fucking wonder
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>treechan is getting ddos'd
good night sweet prince
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Idk anons I'm still not seeing the speed boost. Sure align your steps gits decreases gen time but gen time was already increased over my forge install. You can do 12 steps but it sometimes bugs out. Really not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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>>8111616
JPEGs don't have alpha channels, so the metadata saved by stealth pnginfo still gets erased when you convert to JPEG.
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>>8111656
literally who cares
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Reforge anon, what do you think about AutomaticCFG node that's in comfyui https://github.com/Extraltodeus/ComfyUI-AutomaticCFG
would it be hard to implement into reforge?
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>>8111088
>literally pushed back again.
The thing that was supposed to be released was some shit tier 1.5 level model that would only bring more hate towards them than anything else. Literally trained without caption dropout, half of dataset missing, no filtering, no deduping, undertrained and only tagged with WD tagger.
I was one of the OG shills for WD, but I'm close to giving up on this. People working on it treat it like some 20 minut per day activity or even less. They can't even dedup their dataset in a span of 6 months. And their main dev just went on a vacation to Dubai. At least they are self aware how long it is taking them and don't take donations because of that. Not like donations would mean anything when they have access to 8 nodes of 8xh100 lol
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>>8111669
gone... but not forgotten...
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>>8111673
The chinese weebs are unironically our only hope now.
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>>8111673
>Literally trained without caption dropout, half of dataset missing, no filtering, no deduping, undertrained and only tagged with WD tagger.
you forgot to mention they use the text encoder they yoinked from animagine
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>>8111027
if youve seen any wdV discord screenshots like this one its obvious neggles barely cares about the project
probably only keeping it "alive" for discord attention
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>>8111678
No, they fixed TE code and new model has their own TE trained.
>>8111680
The worst thing about this project, is that neggles cares about it. Changed job literally because the old one limited neggles access to the compute. That is also one of the reasons why the project was slow past months. Old job promised neggles compute but it was always busy.
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>level 1 vs level 5
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I am once again requesting outfit recommendations as I'm less interested in completely nude sex
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Why are the integrated extensions in forge/reforge so outdated and weird? You'd think they'd be configured to still get updates but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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>>8111708
cheerleader
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>>8111708
camisole, panties(with panties aside) and thighhighs.
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>>8111708
pajama, onesie
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still using sd 1.5, anyone know the best way to generate gens? tried using hl+eff and the makesomefuckingporn one but i can't get a desirable output. anyone can help me ?
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>>8111723
>still using sd 1.5
that's the issue i fear
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>>8111723
Usually people would say post what you wanted to get and a catbox of what you got and someone will maybe help, BUT... Nobody uses 1.5 anymore so I wouldn't bet on it.
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what are the latest developments? is sd3 still dead? no new fancy addon?
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>>8111724
i only have a non-rtx gpu so doing sdxl is a pain.
is there like an accurate model that i can use like ponyxl

>>8111723
i want something like this. when i do it, it's just a mangled mess
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i did this in hl+eff. however, i want like a neutral style. i think hf is more focused on certain artists style
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>>8111620
explains why cfg++ looks so weird, and i'm glad to see another person with 3m sde as their favorite
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how the FUCK do I reliably generate small bull penis? it seems impossible. is there any lora for that?
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>>8111708
capelet and corset
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>>8111737
wrong board saar
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>>8111740
what do you mean?
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>>8111737
>small bull penis
what are you even talking about?
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>>8111742
a bull with tiny cock, duh
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>>8111737
>>>/aco/sdg
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>>8111743
I imagine most people are not familiar with real life NTR lingo
just say cuck pov
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>>8111745
you mean the art style is too realistic for this board?
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nevermind, i think i just need some tuning
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>>8111747
both fetish and art style are /aco/
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damn this general took an absolute dive to the dumpster recently. both conceptually and artistically. hopefully it recovers one day so I can share my godtier gens without feeling like im walking through india
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gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood mornign
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>>8111754
this but loras
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>>8111754
hello sars
post black penis soon!
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>finally deleted some of my ancient gens that weren't up to par
I... goodbye...
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>>8111729
Box?
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>>8111723
1. use e612 tags
2. find good artist combo
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>>8111754
>recently
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>>8111750
moar
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>>8111754
>share my godtier gens
I'm curious, share one
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>ten new samplers
>also ten new different schedulers
do i really get into testing these like a retard or just gen like i used to
>>8111765
anon they're the etermal nogen
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>>8111754
I blame fat hags.
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I kinda wonder how good the model will turn out if you just start with the original SD architecture but with vpred+ztsnr sampling, recaption a mix of gelbooru+e621 dataset with wd tagger+furry tagger+cogvlm2, use debiased estimation and apply artist and character frequency-based loss scaling and finally start pretraining on 1024x1024 from scratch.
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>>8111754
I blame pedos
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>>8111735
>two sets of ears
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>>8111772
throwing away all the photographic and artistic parts of the dataset from laion is a mistake. you need a balanced, heavily curated dataset
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>>8111754
I blame shotafags
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A bit off topic but local textgen has finally gotten usable recently. And I say that as someone with enough sunk cost fallacy to cope that it was good before too geg
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>>8111776
>man doesn't like 2 sets of ears
ngmi

>>8111766
>ten new samplers
>potential autism
I just honestly find the newest euler a and stick with it it's just solid.
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>>8111772
shit because model won't know any basic concepts. cogvlm2 and all natural language models apart from something like claude and gpt, but still are worse/bad at anime/paintery stuff.
Also you never want to pretrain straight up from 1024x1024, you start at lower res first.
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>>8111782
please help her
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>>8111779
it was always usable since miqu release, you just need 2x3090 to run it
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>>8111787
mixtral*
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>>8111789
I never liked the outputs from it ngl
But I've started to bot up L3Stheno for quick cooms like back in the day pretty often after basically not using textgen a lot for two years
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>>8111782
the proportions feel a little off
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>>8111783
>cogvlm2 and all natural language models apart from something like claude and gpt, but still are worse/bad at anime/paintery stuff.
That's what taggers are for.
>Also you never want to pretrain straight up from 1024x1024, you start at lower res first.
I'm yet to see the reasoning backed up by evidence as to why this is the case.
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>>8111789
dipped it once it started crying about safety because of me slurring random background girl
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>>8111794
sounds like a skill issue
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honestly hard to judge these schedulers
they all fuck up slightly different, not like there's one good one
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>>8111797
yeap
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>>8111796
never had such problems with Fimbulvetr, sounds like a model issue
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Tips for genning good looking nipples?
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>>8111800
artist prompts
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>>8111800
try different style?
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>>8111799
>Fimbulvetr
yep, definitely an issue of skill
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oi boys i wanted to say it's good not to start the typical textfag cope from lmg
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>>8111764
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how many more black gens 'til you finally feel like you blacked enough
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>>8111805
sir this is imagegen general, singular 3090 is considered top tier here, let alone 4090
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>>8111737
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>>8111798
there are some subjective outliers here https://files.catbox.moe/5kt9tl.png
Karras: 2 better ones
Uniform: 2
Normal: 3
DDIM: 3
SD Turbo: 3
Variance: 2
Align GITS: 2
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>>8111819
bro this is an x/y plot for ants

anyway i'm testing cfg++ which doesn't matter which scheduler it picks so i guess it has one baked in or some shit
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>>8111815
inspection day
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>make multiple characters show their butt
>their buttholes all look the same
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>>8111811
every new post of yours confirms that you're just experiencing a severe issue of skill
mixtral is very easy to run with llama.cpp even on something like 3060ti
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inpainting can be so frustrating
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>>8111820
bruh this 4chan bugging out
i can upload the big one if u want lol
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Euler A CFG++ has been pretty nice from my testing. I wonder if Euler_Smea_Dy could get the CFG++ treatment as well.
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>>8111831
i prefer sde 0.9 cfg
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>>8111836
how do you get cfg below 1 in reforge? I've just kept it at one for all my tests.
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>>8111846
you need to edit the config to allow below 1, it's just the default setting. the suggested cfg for cfg++ is 0.6
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>all this retarded placebo discussion while euler 20 steps still works and none of the newer tech has proven benefits
and none of you ever post gens
curious
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>>8111797
Because you are a retarded locust who falls for whatever snake oil another Indian or Jew individual from NVIDIA tries to sell you, such as FreeU, PAG, Vectorscope, Dynamic Thresholding, local ""SMEA"", ""new"" samplers, etc. Each new schedule that came out recently changes the same fucking curve that's used in karras a tiny bit. Any schedule that is not uniform or karras is a cope and you're wasting everyone's time.
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good morning!
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good morning sars
let's post black penis instead of talking about the tech
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>>8111853
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Swapped the a1111 schedulers branch to the main reforge one, see the new schedules and I gotta ask what hte fuck is with these ODE ones? I just see they do nothing but spam this "NGMS step "x" unconditional adjust" with no timer, hit cancel and an image pops out.
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>>8111848
Jannies would ban my ass so fast
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>>8111848
>nogen
ironic
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>>8111858
i couldn't get them to work either
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thanks for the proof nogen chum
hope you enjoy your next mall shooting
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>>8111848
The only obvious effects out of all of them is AYS requiring half as many steps, and SMEA-DYN being able to gen at higher base resolutions.
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>>8111866
Realized too when you mentioned AYS, when I swapped from the schedulers branch anon made to the reForge dev upstream one and updated I lost all the AYS ones. I really liked Euler A AYS so not sure if I can get it back.
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>>8111868
I still have all my AYS and I'm on the dev_upstream. Try a git pull?
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>>8111618
Just as an FYI in the metadata there should be lora hashes that you can throw in the civitai search bar, but it's these ones.
https://civitai.com/models/300005/incase-style-ponyxl
https://civitai.com/models/333035/chikaretsu-for-pony
https://civitai.com/models/526945/elizasrain-style
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>>8111870
>your branch is up to date with origin/dev_upstream
Yeah I dunno, was there before but now their gone after swapping from the branch he had to the official one.
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>>8111874
>50cm cock
yowch
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Top picks from Reforge and the first one is whatever's the default for Forge Smea DY
yeah that's almost pixel perfect, doubt it's worth bothering with
https://files.catbox.moe/5mpva6.png
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>>8111875
made for paizuri
just like her milk tanks with huge faucets
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>>8111876 me
on a closer look maybe ddim is slightly better with the precum v clothes details logic? but that really is basically the same
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>>8111876
smea dy is pretty cool yes
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>>8111880
all of these are smea dy but that's true
im talking schedulers
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>>8111883
oops. when i did a sampler/scheduler plot i saw a lot more difference, but i only did a couple
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>>8111884
it was more visible with the feet i did
just the toe count and logic and such
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As for performance, it's identical without optimizations, and slightly slower on reforge with them on (forge speed stays the same with or without) for me on a 3090.
You should be able to use DDIM scheduler in regular Forge too, right? I'll have to check it.
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>>8111836
sde cfg++ takes 4 times as long as euler a cfg++ for me. Is this expected or is something fucked on my end
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>>8111661
what art style/artist is that?
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>>8111887
>You should be able to use DDIM scheduler in regular Forge too, right? I'll have to check it.
Oh no you can't by default
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>>8111888
no idea. but note that you're supposed to use 50 steps. i don't use ancestral samplers
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>>8111821
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Any tricks or something I'm missing with Euler DY / Euler SMEA Dy? I like them a fair bit but I dunno if they're blurring and/or weakening my style loras with softer styles. I didn't see anything on the dude's page about rec steps or anything.
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>>8111905
Not in genning but they fuck up img2img
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>>8111907
Yeah I saw that blurb in there about upscaling I think he said, didn't think much about it and then it just made a giant smear of one my images. Worked the 2nd time so guess I can just set a different sampler for upscaling.
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>>8111908
Yeah I use Euler A for that
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>>8111911
That'll work, and on the steps shit it seems to do way better with more steps, I noticed images looked better from 20-30 and the gen time really didn't increase that much.
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I quite like DDIM scheduler. It fixes come of the logic problems. Particularly visible on the middle seed and the last two with how much the dick is inserted
https://files.catbox.moe/z8s97h.png
Now time to check out these weird ass samplers
>>8111914
I tested 35 for myself as the optimal count for Smea Dy
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>>8111917
I was using AYS and I really like it might try DDIM again. While your testing try out the cfg++ if you hadn't, talking with a friend and if I use cfg++ it completely fries even copying his png info and his gens fine.
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>>8111919
No I had the same thing with CFG++ when I did a quick one but I'll try again
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>>8111919
cfg++ needs to be used with cfg scale 1 (or lower, which is not possible with reforge ui)
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>>8111921
Is there any actual logic why one should use it? Seems like a bother with the CFG and steps
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>>8111921
you need to edit your config file to allow below 1
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>>8111923
i really like the quality
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>>8111924
which one exactly? i tried messing with ui.py but it didn't do anything
>>8111923
no one is forcing you, we're just trying out new things
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>>8111926
>no one is forcing you, we're just trying out new things
Well yes anon, I'm just asking about the theoreticals of its implementation
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>>8111927
https://cfgpp-diffusion.github.io/
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>>8111921
That's whats fucked is my friend is using at 1 and generating fine I can't get shit at 1, but how do you edit the file.

>>8111927
New things are fun and potentially better anon, it's not that complicated.
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>>8111926
ui-config.json, same file as always for config
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>>8111927
Why are you being so confrontational? Jesus Christ. Relax and post gens.
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>>8111931
what
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>>8111932
Relax. Breathe in, breathe out. It's not a big deal.
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IPNDM bad that I can say
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>>8111943
mmmmm, handsome indian male
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>>8111924
I edited it and it's still bricking noise at .4.
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Hm, no, ++'s broken as shit for me.
Obviously different CFG but Euler SMEA but
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>>8111947
works fine for me idk did you restart after updating
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i'm remaking my fucking stomach bulge lora swear to god these double navels are pissing me off
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>>8111950
Yeah closed and opened the webui.
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>>8111950
looks a bit fried though
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>>8111951
Anon... you do know that stomach bulge is fully inbuilt in pony, right?
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What's the best way to get different styles out of PonyXL? The Based model used to work well with artist wildcards but I believe Pony's dataset had artists stripped?
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>>8111955
so it does, this is some random non cherrypick from my tests in the last half hour

>>8111957
yeah and it makes double navels every fucking time
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>>8111959
I...
https://files.catbox.moe/g0yc6h.png
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>>8111958
based was still 1.5 it only really had normie artists
look in the op for the hashed artist tags and the artist tags that escaped hashing and then start amassing a lora collection
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>>8111959
>it makes double navels every fucking time
If you're doing hires fix to upscale, you could also try lowering the denoise on that if you haven't tried that
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>>8111950
>>8111953
k it hates AYS, changed the sampler to SGM uniform and it works fine.
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>>8111961
with the specific thing i'm doing it does, let me cook

also, ew, furshit
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>>8111966
skill issue
*dabs*
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Oh hey shit, did Reforge add the ui-config settings to remove those awful buttons below the image window or did I not see them before?
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If a character lora looks fried with one style lora but okay with another style lora, is the character lora fried?
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>>8111972
no, many times lora weights can conflict with other lora weights, just dont use them together
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>>8111971
Either way the fucking tards didn't even match the emojis in the settings with the ones in the UI
At least SD Boomer is a thing but still I have to try and error to disable half these useless ones
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>>8111975
Wait no sorry, they added even more stupid emoji buttons in a different place, didn't even see that.
Still don't get why Auto did that in the first place
Probably for the fucking zoomzoom phoneposters
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well it turns out that my cfg was too high or something, big think right there
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>>8111957
Why use the model when you can train a lora?
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>>8111983
1.5 SIGMA grindset
1girl standing lora when
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I remember having to fuck with .py scripts to fix my UI in Forge so they must've added these options in Reforge and even more. Pretty based just for that, the UI needs serious decluttering out of the box.
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Sadly still no way to disable all these fucking hypernetwork tabs and such from img2img as far as I can see but oh well
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>>8111951
I understand this frustration brother. Use SMEA dy and see if the results improve without the lora.
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>>8111989
yeah i'm testing that later
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You can disable the garbage from extras tho that's nice
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>cfg++ takes 2x longer to gen
I wanna experiment a bit more but the slowness alone is turning me off.
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>>8111993
it shouldn't
only two of these use the slower samplerd
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>>8111993
doesn't seem 2x to me, seems normal for my 50 steps gens with other samplers
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today i learned a valuable lesson about not disabling shadows in mmd before making a difference training dataset
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>>8111996
I tried them and they were slower for me, what's the step count for it ballpark
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>>8111998
which was the right choice
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>>8111779
what models do you recommend?
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>>8111995
Nice prompt.
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>>8112003
Hell yeah.
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Is reforge worth using or is it too experimental/buggy?
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euler smea dy with align your steps seems pretty cool but man every single image comes out with almost the exact same composition and pose unless i change the prompt a lot
>>8112000
idk if this is a question or not but if it is the right choice was enabling shadows and using Excellent Shadow. i had them disabled initially because MMD's default shadows are blocky and look like shit. but it turns out that pony wasn't able to learn that very well so the style lora still had them present. that caused the character lora to have a lot of style burn in and also made the ai learn her control tops as being shadows since there were no actual shadows to contrast it with
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>>8112002
Haven't kept up lately but I picked up L3-8B-Stheno-v3.2.Q8_0 from the top of the list and it's been better at writing and logic than any pre-L3 model I ever tested (all of them)
>>8112005
Works so far for me
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>>8112005
it's just a forge branch with extra shit in it instead of no updates
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bros what are some good manga style loras
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>>8112003
>>8112004

>>8112008
Yeah smea dy is neat I think it's doing some fucky things with style loras, almost feels like you need to emphasize them a little. That being said I really like AYS even on shit like Euler A. Messing with cfg++ more it's 20s slower same steps as euler dy, but responds better to loras it feels like.
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>>8111871
>>8111903
>>8111946
>>8111995

good shit as always
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>>8112023
My mistress... I am leaking so hard...
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>>8111633
https://civitai.com/articles/4560/upscaling-images-using-multidiffusion
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>>8112029
anytest mogs this
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Is there really no easy way to remove picrel unlike the other stuff?
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>>8112032
Can you retards stop bringing up anytest in every convo? Holy shit, you are worse than trannies. Shut up already, no one asked.
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>>8112035
Remove what exactly?
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>>8112036
lol
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>>8112036
good morning sir
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>>8112038
>>8112042
is this good ol' aom2?
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>>8111291
I don't get it. Your two gens just use Euler/Automatic. I tried playing around with the schedule type, but the speed isn't changing.
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>>8112046
aom3 bruh
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>>8112037
The tabs
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>>8112029
Thanks.
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>>8112049
You could just try ublock for a dumb fix.
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>>8112053
huh that's true
i couldn't even find them in the scripts when i fucked around before in forge
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>>8112048
aom3 generally looks more painterly and less glossy iirc
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>>8112022
{{{{{cute}}}}}
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>>8110758

The sitting-in-lap pov Lora I was requested to make has been giving me problems and is pretty hard with the number of images I have found. I am going to give up on it for now. But I will share the dataset if any other trainerchads want to take a shot at it.

aHR0cHM6Ly9waXhlbGRyYWluLmNvbS91L2pjYTl6Q2gx (base64)

This data set is pre-tagged with the tag lappov
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>>8112063
>tag lappov
maybe i also should've done this
the real ones have too much interference
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>>8112053
>>8112058
I remember disabling this because it prevent generate forever from working.
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>>8112066
What did? Ublock?
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>>8112059
in part im adapting to a new model hack which makes CFG scale more variable
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>>8112068
Yes. Actually what I remember now is that my right click downloader extension was causing the issue but when I looked online people said it was ublock.
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>>8112032
Nta but can you give me a quick rundown on how anytest works? I'm always willing to try a newer/better method.
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>>8112070
>which makes CFG scale more variable
what
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>>8112047
That is the img2img result. Here is the actual gen.
https://files.catbox.moe/c8o694.png
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>>8112072
>my right click downloader extension
Link? Is it for those locked down site videos?
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>>8112073
He's a shitposter. Not an expert but what I do is find a pic, load it into controlnet in txt2img then select pixel perfect and "all" for control type. Leave the preprocessor set to none and make sure the anytest model is selected. Might have to use the refresh icon. Then you shift around control weight to control how much of the image gets used. You then need to prompt as much as possible because whatever isn't prompted will be taken from the image.
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>>8112053
Oh they are lumped together as one, that's why I couldn't find them separately
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>>8112074
it's hard to say, but i find myself adjusting CFG more often and to a larger degree using it. if skin tone gets too shiny it's usually a sign to reduce CFG and add shiny skin in negs
https://github.com/blepping/comfyui_jankhidiffusion
but i think it's helping

i try all sorts of hacks to the gen process, next one that looks promising is clipnegpip
https://github.com/hako-mikan/sd-webui-negpip
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>>8112076
It was an old OF downloader chrome extension that no longer works now that OF has DRM. Enable right click I think it was called.
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>>8112083
>OF has DRM
i may not be retarded enough to pay for OF content but as a game dev I just want to say this is the funniest shit to me. just wait til they start employing watermarks to track who shared what was saved
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There a way to lock your sampler in img2img so it's only using that one? I figure this is gonna be my best fix for smea if not gonna be in agony.
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>>8112053
>>8112080
Eh I'd have to fuck around in ui.py but it just breaks other shit
>>8112087
in ui-config
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>>8112063
Is this /file/ or /folder/ can't seem to get to it.
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>>8112075
I tried with that sampler with Automatic and "Align your steps" schedule type, same time needed.
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>>8112090
google base64, open the first site that comes up drop the string in and decode it and it will give you a download link to a pixeldrain folder
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>cascade's dataset is so old there's no ubel_(sousou_no_frieren) tag at all
It's over. Deleted all their models, left the discord, pony it is.
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>>8112091
>same time needed.
What are you comparing to? You can reduce the steps needed using AYS. Regardless, if your results with whatever method you were using before are the same then you don't need to bother changing. I was using old forge before that didn't allow you to change your Schedule type. The speed improvement is part of the update.
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>>8112053
Never mind again it works if I select the tab itself and then try to select it in ublock
lol
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>>8112098
or not
i don't get it i'll just leave it alone again
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>>8112095
wtf, they didn't even scraped gelbooru by themsels
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>>8112095
>>8112102
morning status?
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>>8112089
Where at specifically, was hoping just an extension so I could disable it if they ever fix smea dy, but I guess that's not gonna happen either.
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>>8112103
Hope it's the worst morning possible for fat hags.
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>>8112095
use arti, ubel is there
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Considering trying NAI. I just read https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3 in its entirerity. Is it up to date or is there anything else I'm supposed to be aware of?
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>>8112095
please don't leave our discord, i promise b-sama will bake an ubel lora for you if you donate at least 100 dollars
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>YWN in captcha
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>>8112110
>at least 100 dollars
she'll bake it regardless but it will take two years bruh
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>>8112116
>that smug "you bet i swallowed it all" look
soul
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Any news on wdv?
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>>8112106
>"customscript/sampler.py/img2img/Sampling method/value": "Euler a",
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>>8112122
devs on vacation for the next 6 months
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>>8112122
dead.
stop waiting for it
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>spent all this time setting up reforge
>now it refuses to gen
lol
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>>8112113
Nice, catbox please
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>>8112124
Yeah I checked there and it's dpm++, but when I ping info import an image it changes the sampler. So I wanted ot stop that behavior just on the sampler itself, sorry if I'm missing it and that's also the solution there.
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>>8112132
I dunno it just works for me like that
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>>8112108
>arti
>>8112110
>loras
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>>8112128
latest commit fixes it
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any loras or keyword combinations for reliably getting sashes or belts sitting just below the bust as in pic related? "sash" sits too low and has the dangling tie even through negatives for ribbon/bow, "belt" sits too low, "obi" sometimes sits high enough but adds more kimono/obijime stuff I don't want. The look I'm going for is more like flowing sundress with a wide/tight raffia belt or sash rather than an ordinary leather belt but either way's fine really. basically just any way to get the sash to actually sit at the narrow section created by (narrow waist:1.1) instead of below it.
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>>8112140
>"obi" sometimes sits high enough but adds more kimono/obijime stuff I don't want
[obi:sash:0.45]
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>Link vs Groose
Lore-accurate NTR
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>>8112140
high-waist?
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>>8112135
Yeah I tried it and it's not working for me, can't find anything in settings. Though I realized I can gen almost at my 1.5 upscale size with smea with no issues and I can just run adetailer and not worry about it I guess.
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>>8112154
kek
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>>8112141
thanks, not a bad idea, works okay at 0.25. Even the obi mostly sits too low and it needs (obijime:1.1) in negatives to have any chance of getting rid of the little cord, but it's better than before.
>>8112148
pretty negligible effect by itself, but high-waist skirt with skirt in negatives seems to occasionally help at the cost of making the rest of the details shit themselves a bit more often. You're right that high-waist skirt is effectively the look I'm wanting and I prompt that a lot otherwise, was trying to recreate it with dress/sash
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>>8112154
Cocoa doesn't have nipples and she has a barbie doll crotch!
This image is certified FAKE
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>>8112109
That about covers it.
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>>8112154
based
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>>8112154
sovl
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>>8111809
nice style
box?
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>>8112188
perhaps, why do you ask?
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>>8112188
bro take your own advice
>>8111931
>>8111933
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>>8112073
there are a bunch of different things you can do but i do

put to img2img tab
just resize
scale resize by (whatever you want)
seed, prompt, cfg, all same
denoise 1
controlnet on
pixel perfect
no preprocessor
anytest cn
weight 1
start/end 0/1
prompt more important
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>>8112208
so why not reply to him rude asshole
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>>8112073
if you were asking for a technical answer i have no fucking idea
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Bros...smea dy may be the best thing that's ever happened to local... I'm still making my grid.
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back from my IQ test looks like I passed
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>>8112222
It's actually so frustrating though, pure monkey's paw for me.
>best sampler works great
>I have to fucking change my upscale sampler every time in img2img because the script setting won't keep it locked and there's no setting to keep it locked
I'm literally shaking.
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Bros no joke I'm actually very impressed.
>>8112227
Oh I was just doing some base res gens let me try hires fix.
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>>8112228
It fries itself on upscale if you use it as the sampler, tried hires fix, tried kohya hires, img2img upscale. The guy warns about it in his github but it's still frustrating / funny to see.
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>>8112222
I like it yeah
Just more coherent to the prompt
>>8112227
It is weird tho
I have been genning with that ui config setting and it just works
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>>8112229
Alright I'll try euler, euler dy, and smea dy in my grid.
>>8112230
>Just more coherent to the prompt
Not just this, it seems to have saved my lora.
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Damn, I just spent like 8 hours slopping out gens in this style.

>>8112217
It feels like stacking a mix of multiple controlnets at low strengths. Softedge and depth for sure, probably normals too. The main advantage is it doesn't take insane amounts of vram like stacking controlnets usually does, the downside is you can't change the mix ratio. Say for example your image has no outline like some 3D styles, softedge can soften or blur the whole image.
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>>8112222
It's very rigid, almost no seed variation. Which makes unreliable concepts almost impossible to gen.
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>>8112230
Do you have to enable anything in the settings to see it? I saw something in the drop down at the bottom about img2img scripts but I have to turn it on each time anyway and it didn't work the one time I tried it.
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>>8112238
which is pretty much the opposite of the way nai's smea dyn behaves
why did they even call it that though?
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>>8112223
>looks like I passed
If only you passed... (and I'm not talking about an IQ test).
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>>8112239
It's just what I showed you. I have it set to Euler A and it stays so when I send to img2img.
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>>8112235
>Damn, I just spent like 8 hours slopping out gens in this style.
Careful anon. Being erect for more than 16 hours will make you regret it for 48 hours.
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>>8112244
Bizarre, oh nvm I might be retarded I think I know. Are you sending it from txt2img directly to img2img?
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>>8112240
I'd guess it's based on a research paper. Does NAI's smea-dyn also allow you to gen an higher base resolution?
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>>8112248
>Does NAI's smea-dyn also allow you to gen an higher base resolution?
yes, and it actually works much better at high resolution (say 1920x1080) but pretty much nobody apart from shuten anon uses it because it costs gacha points. at lowres it looks very washed out most of the time.
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>>8112238
it seems like its initial step is locked to a single seed or something, i thought i had somehow trained a specific pose into my character lora when i initially tested it
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>>8112063
Thanks for the dataset. I added 3 extra pics in this position and changed a few tags. Ideally if "pov" wasn't such a strong tag it would carry us to the finish line but you have to heavily rely on "sitting on person/lap" with or without looking back.
>>8112227
>>8112230
>>8112238
Smea dy is just great but it works best in base resolution. Guess it's finally time for me to switch to multidiffusion.
https://files.catbox.moe/jqokfi.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/e393x1.jpg
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>>8112256
Oh yeah. Top grid is base res and bottom grid is after hires fix.
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>>8112253
>at high resolution (say 1920x1080) but pretty much nobody apart from shuten anon uses it because it costs gacha points
meant to say nobody gens straight at highres. smea is "free" for lowres gens
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>>8112246
Usually yeah
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>>8112246
>>8112244
So assuming you use it this way, it works no problem. The issue now for me is if I import it directly from txt2txt it doesn't convert my wildcards from the image so I have to png info and copy / paste the positive prompts.
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AI makes you realize you only fully care about a few characters
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>>8112264
actually I only care about stomach bulge
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>>8112256
good luck with the lora, I am interested to see if you can pull it off.
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>>8112264
>me spending 2 weeks generating rosa

>>8112261
So for anyone else with this first world problem there's a hidden setting to enable looking / changing the sampler for upscale in hi-res fix. So you can change your sampler there.
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>>8112264
Don't think it's true for everybody but certainly true for me.
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>>8112271
i think it's partly the effort but i gen way fewer charas than i jerked off to in normal hentai
lol
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>>8112272
For me it was that when I could gen almost any fetish on demand, it became less about the fetish and more about who I was fucking so I started focusing more on waifu and clothing loras.
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>>8112264
I thought I was a greenfag, but I did the my anime harem with my favorite characters and realized I was a purplefag all along. I want to try genning purple C.C. but that might anger God.
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>>8112165
litelary just use hl+eff with only the word "anime" on it
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>>8112277
Someone needs to make one of those spotify mood apps but with waifu colors
kek
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>>8112270
Blogposting at this pint it doesn't work, hires fix just is ignoring the chosen sampler or it's fucked with the way it does it compared to img2img.
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>>8112264
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>>8112282
i've tested euler smea as hiresfix on comfy and it does indeed suck for that
but ive also used it for inpaints and auto-detailer and it worked fine at low denoise
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>>8112113
fatbox?
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Okay here's the lora. It really only works with smea dy sampler. The activation tag is "lappov" but you still need helper tags like sitting on person or sitting on lap. I put "pov" in the tags to help guide AI toward pov but it's a strong tag so I recommend prompting it at 0.5 weight. I also put the dataset here so you can see the changes.
https://pixeldrain com/u/Svaa5u5Q
https://pixeldrain com/u/kxYChVvg
I made another grid at base res with just smea dy. Does this look consistent enough to you?
https://files.catbox.moe/yd032f.jpg
Also here's my settings.
https://files.catbox.moe/lj1ilj.json
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>>8112227
Catbox?
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Is smea dy retard cope? literally nobody cared about it when it first was mentioned here in march. What changed since then? The average IQ of the /hdg/ poster?
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Is civitai not updating for you guys either?
When I sort by newest it shows me stuff that was uploaded/updated a month ago.
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>>8112300
>The average IQ of the /hdg/ poster?
dropped immensely
smea on local is not the same nai uses
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>>8112300
It was added on reForge and people are it using now I guess? (though it was on Comfy I think?)
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>>8112295
wow thanks for sharing the updated dataset too, that's nice to see how other people do it. I am going to test out the lora.
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>>8112300
>someone mentioned it
>i tested it
>i liked it
>i said so
truly mysterious
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Do the different schedulers/samplers really make a big difference?
It all looks the same to me lmao.
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>>8112264
it made me realize that i like the designs of most of the cast of xenoblade 3 a lot
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>>8112307
well
samplers are generally really different in some ways
schedulers are maybe 5% difference but still significant enough
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>>8112307
It's pony
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>>8112287
how do you get do decent nail polish?
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>>8112301
Its stuck right now yeah, its been since yesterday
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>>8112307
>>8112310
>schedulers are maybe 5% difference but still significant enough
cope
also the samplers are generally copying each other with one thing changed so there are actually only 4-5 samplers that actually matter (Euler A, Euler, DDIM, DPM++ SDE, _pick_yours_)
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>>8112307
ive seen enough major improvement from sampler tech, scheduler tech, and other gen manipulation hacks that i think we've only unlocked maybe 2/3 or 3/4 of the current models' true potential
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>>8112300
>no gen
You're a laughing stock.
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>>8112317
i guess
now get back to posting black cock
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>>8112288
I'm trying to figure out some cope workaround because I either
>png info import and change the sampler
>send to img2img from txt2img, it keeps the ruler a sampler default but I have to copy and paste the prompts from png info because the UI doesn't send the png info just the prompts which are all wildcards
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>>8112313
You gotta believe in the heart of the cards, but in all seriousness it's pure rng. I don't prompt for nail polish at all, it just shows up because of the lipstick color inadvertently. It may be related to my model but I am not sure.

https://files.catbox.moe/370xk8.png
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>imagine trying this hard to summon him
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>>8112331
reverse psychology
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>>8112295
>smea dy sampler.
I have reforge is that not apart of that?
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who are you quoting?
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it was me austin
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>>8112333
Yes "Euler Smea Dy" on reforge. You can install it yourself here if you don't have it.
https://github.com/Koishi-Star/Euler-Smea-Dyn-Sampler
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>>8112333 (me)

I pulled, I got it now
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PonyXL Locon trained on Sanemichi Hajime: https://files.catbox.moe/w2xuw0.safetensors

If anyone could try it out and send results, that'd be nice. Best used at a weight of 1, no score tags, and no negative tags.
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it was him austin
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he pulled?
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git pull
rm -rf / --no-preserve-root
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Samplers are nice, but ultimately we're just waiting for a new model, imo it's just entertainment for a moment. They do seem to improve outputs but marginally.
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>>8112345
time to shill negpip extension again
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>>8112345
judging by the loras that are being made specifically for smea dyn it's not really marginal
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>>8112345
>but marginally
just like you passed the state-accepted lowest iq threshold
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>>8112348
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>>8112352
Oh right. They are fucking amazing, it's like we got a whole new model.
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>>8112355
It's almost like you're a normal human.
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>>8112079
Just tested this method with an old drawing I created. So it's an actual functional controlnet. Awesome. I wonder if it works better than xinsir models?

>>8112206
Interesting upscaling method. It does some things better than MultiDiffusion but also not so good. I can't decide which is better. More testing is needed.
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>>8112361
>old drawing I created
catbox it
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>>8112160
Thanks.
>>8112146
kek
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>>8111998
>mmd
I'm curious is MMD easy to learn? there are some obscure characters that have MMD models that id like to use in a dataset using screenshots from what I assume is a poser.
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>>8112363
Fuck it, here is the doodle with the test results.
>the drawing (as lineart)
https://files.catbox.moe/520zrp.png
>the Controlnet Anytest txt2img
https://files.catbox.moe/hsxr4g.png
>the Controlnet Anytest img2img upscale
https://files.catbox.moe/5id5q0.png
>the MultiDiffusion img2img upscale
https://files.catbox.moe/fgspfx.png
>the prompt
score_9,score_8_up,score_7_up,score_6_up,source_anime,1girl,dark-skinned female,blue hair,short hair,pointy ears,blue eyes,nude,nipples,pussy,pubic hair,muscular,smirk,white background,
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>>8112371
>is MMD easy to learn?
if you're just doing screenshots then yeah. you can download premade poses and then fiddle around with them a bit to fix clipping. the most annoying part is facial expressions
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>you're genuinely attempting to give a helpful advice to the curious anon
>a couple of resident shitposters says the exact opposite, looking like they sincerely believe their bullshit, despite being completely clueless of what the thing in question does
>they derail the convo and invalidate your points at the same time by calling you a groidspammer, etc
>under 50 characters
THIS is why this general became unusable. groidmelties, interested parties and trolls outside of /b/ are killing the general much more efficiently than the black king himself they despise so much.
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>>8112377
Very clean and cute.
>>8112380
Don't pay attention to this shit, decent anons are still there.
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>>8112377
Cute. Now plap her. Bonus points for a difficult sex position.
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>>8112380
sounds like a you problem desu
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>>8112380
That's great, it should be unusable, fat hags don't deserve a good place:)
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>>8112371
>>8112378
Are you using this also?
https://github.com/ColinLeung-NiloCat/UnityURPToonLitShaderExample?tab=readme-ov-file
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>>8112380
You're taking it way too seriously.
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>>8112380
it's all the same lifeless faggot. if you ignore him he'll start replying to his own bait to make it look like he's getting interaction. I'm not joking. It becomes too obvious a pattern if you lurk long enough.

I've always wondered what causes this kind of troll. is it desperation to feel some kind of control over something? extreme need for attention? I really don't get it
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>>8112380
post the cocks already
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>>8112380
>nogen
lolllllll
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>>8112384
>>8112385
>>8112390
>>8112389
>>8112393
kill yourself
>>8112388
yeah maybe
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>>8112395
>still no gens
don't have anything but blacked to post, groidie? just get something from the archive like last time
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All trolling in this thread is by pedos that are salty that they aren't above the rules
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any tips on novelai prompting?
just got it yesterday and grabbed several artist combos but it seems to not recognize characters like florence nightingale
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>>8112361
you don't just have the old version of anytest right? no idea if he made more but the v4 was way better than the v1
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>>8112395
>yeah maybe
Yeah you do. It's 4chan. Shitposting happens and if you react, people double down. People also genuinely make mistakes and act stupid. No need to get riled up over shit like this.
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>>8112398
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>>8112400
Here is my old NAI template.
>character, series, artist, body descriptions if needed (large breasts etc), viewing angle, position/situation (sex, masturbation, girl on top, etc), background stuff, nsfw, quality setting, aesthetic setting, absurdres
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>>8111889
Mostly this Nobuteru Yuuki LoRA. It's kind of overfit, though:
https://civitai.com/models/206022/nobuteru-yuuki-sdxl-lodoss-style
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>just moved another batch of old loras to the obsoletes
I'll soon start only genning gjem
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>>8112386
that's a unity shader so no. i have this: https://bowlroll.net/file/312181 but that's it.
mmd models should come with their own bespoke shaders made for the program and i've just been using whatever mihoyo decides to attach to the ones they release. if the models you download have shitty shaders or whatever you might be able to edit them but i don't know how. the mmd blender import/export addon i've found doesn't save shader changes correctly and i don't know what the alternative is.
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>>8112406
thank you
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>>8112404
hot, moar?
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>>8112381
Thanks, you too....
>>8112382
Drawing is hard anon. There's a reason I haven't done it in so long. SD and controlnet is getting me excited again though. Here is another test.
>sketch
https://files.catbox.moe/do09rw.png
>Anytest txt2img
https://files.catbox.moe/ybntrq.png
>Anytest img2img
https://files.catbox.moe/n2pkn5.png
>MultiDiffusion img2img
https://files.catbox.moe/6ryga8.png

>>8112402
I'm using v4.
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>>8112248
There is no research paper for SMEA. Anyways, here is NAI SMEA Dyn.
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>>8112295
>>8112304 (me)

Hmm I dont know if this is any better than what I have been getting. Bunch of random missing legs and body parts with various issues. Thanks for giving it a go.

Catboxing my fails

https://files.catbox.moe/pjdp58.png
https://files.catbox.moe/vtvofn.png
https://files.catbox.moe/3h2ogg.png
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>one artist lora i trained left
damn nigga
i really do like two styles
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>>8112415
And their regular SMEA.
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>>8112414
Finally, an actual poster. Good stuff as always!
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>>8112414
there we go :)
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>>8112414
That's a cute boy
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>>8112299
https://files.catbox.moe/a5kdjn.png
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>>8112345
what's this SMEA thing i keep hearing about
is it another meme like lycoris and Dora?
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How much vram needed for nai?
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>>8112430
0
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>>8112430
You only need some megabytes of it order to load NAI webpage in your browser. It's a cloud service.
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>>8112430
8GB Nvidia for their cryptominer
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>>8112430
32 megs for the internet explorer tab
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>>8112398
>>8112399
>>8112404
kys
[end of (you) giveaway]

>>8112403
the problem is that the kind of shitposting i described is NOT occasional, at some point it's became a routine, a norm. you probably do not realize that, but every single anon without exception have tried to dodge the tricky topic in this manner instead of putting effort or acknowledging another opinion AT LEAST once which is a fucking disaster.
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:/
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Fat hag meltie...
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Now that it's joever, how will a trump win affect /hdg/?
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sirs, the second groidie hit the /hdg/...
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>>8112435
its the reason why i gave up asking any training configs or tagging tips here and search them up somewhere else instead
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>>8112416
she looks much cuter desu
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>keeps attaching a dick to your female character despite 1boy tag and even futanari in the negs
>start liking it
Fuck you SD.
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>>8112435
>tried to dodge the tricky topic in this manner
what the hell are you talking about
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>>8112445
It's the refiner guy, don't entertain him
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>>8112435
Old /hdg/ was more of an exception for this website, most other AI generals are also trash like this. Shitposting here has been rampant ever since v3 was released, with few good weeks between schizo shit.
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>>8112438
the gop will eventually catch up to generative online services being used to make porn and the nationwide requirement that you hand over personally identifying information to access porn sites will be applied to them as well. all cunny posters will be added to the sex offender registry within a few years as a result
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>>8112440
there's never been any time where i asked a question here about configs or tagging and i didn't get several useful answers
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>american posters will have to give their ids to visit /hdg/
finally some peace and quiet
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>>8112449
It would be same shit with dems in power btw. It's all the same shit.
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>>8112450
>several useful answers
contradicting each other, yeah
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>>8112454
that's how ai is stupid negro
fucking normalfag i will punt you
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>>8112454
yes, that's exactly how it works in any pre-paradigmatic field
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>>8112450
seems like i need to disguise characters in order to get those answers aswel
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>>8112413
Holy shit, Anytest is fucking amazing. It's not perfect but the fact it even got this close is crazy. I can pretty much draw my own porn manga at this point.
>Sketch
https://files.catbox.moe/13detu.png
>img1img
https://files.catbox.moe/12p2yx.png
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>>8112458
sovl
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>anytest is carrying local solo
What the fuck is anlatan doing? jerking it to loli?
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>>8112304
Well yeah. A general should be about collaborating to figure out the best techniques not about keeping things to yourself.
>>8112416
Yeah I was having some issues when I prompted with loras. Looks like it works best on base autism. Can you try adding pov at low weight?
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>>8112458
Oops, that's not the img2img. That's the Anytest, here is the img2img.
https://files.catbox.moe/y0oz2l.png
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>>8112413
>>8112458
Wish I could draw.
>>8112464
Not bad.
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>>8112458
>>8112464
I kneel
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>>8112429
Never thought to do this position for some reason. Nice.
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>>8112458
To be fair you can do the same with just lineart or softedgecontrolnet, this doesn't use the depth and normal portion of anytest at all.
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>making an OC now using the tools i have
have i gone too deep
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>>8112469
>To be fair you can do the same with just lineart or softedgecontrolnet
I was getting shit results with all of the other controlnets which is why I haven't bothered to test anything new until now.
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>>8112469
>lineart or softedgecontrolnet
those barely work with pony though
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>>8112435
Not any of those anons but I completely understand. It's been going on way longer the recently too but those anons are right. I remember seething when I was struggling with my nanako lora because I'd put in the time to post results and explain in detail what I was doing and there would always be a nogen shitposter waiting in the wings. Even earlier than that if I took the time to post a large blogpost with proof about something lora bakers were arguing about, some retard would always show up with "no that's dumb" and refuse to elaborate further. Every single time without exception. Than you had the weekly /sdg/ raids and meltdowns. It's just the nature of /hdg/ and anons at the time were right to tell me to just get used to it. Recognize that for every one retard posting on stage, there's 100 more lurking beneath the stage and actually appreciate helpful constructive posts, even if they never say anything.
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>>8112477
>nogen
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>>8112454
Healthy debate is a good thing. I don't know when you're referring to but there was a lot of arguing around March-ish with settings which turned a lot of people off but that was because they were too impatient to actually understand what was happening. Everyone at different skill levels were all doing things differently and posting their results and settings. Everyone was also free to see if anon was bullshitting or if he was right which actually lead to most of the benefits we and civitai now enjoy. If you didn't actually want to contribute to the discussion then it seemed like noise, but if you were actually engaged it was extremely beneficial. I wish we still had that.
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>>8112473
that was like the second thing people did with it besides prompting ancient generic waifus with 1000000000 pictures in the dataset like miku
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Now that the dust has settled, what is our opinion on UNION controlnet? In theory you can delete every other model and only keep the preprocessors, but in practice I don't know how well a jack-of-all-trades model performs compared to the specialized ones.
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>>8112463
what like (pov:0.4) or (lappov:0.4)?

For science here is both, legs get wonky either way sadly.

pov 0.4
https://files.catbox.moe/8fp6th.png

lappov 0.4
https://files.catbox.moe/848uai.png
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>>8112481
March? Which year kek
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>>8112452
I'd give anything to have IDs on all of 4chan...
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>>8112481
>Healthy debate is a good thing.
Let's start simple: batch size 8 vs 1?
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>>8112484
isnt it pretty much anytest? First time im hearing about "union"
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>>8112489
seems similar yes
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>>8112487
Won't help much considering phone posting.
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>>8112488
same answer as you'd get to the vast majority of questions about configs: it depends
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>>8112488
Like I said, I posted my result. I prefer batch size 1 for the specific reason that it works in the loras I've made and I posted proof. Anon is free to agree or disagree, but if he disagrees he should post proof like I did that way everyone benefits. It's not like it was earlier this year where I'd post a result and 3 shitposters would be telling me the thing they can see with their own eyes is impossible.
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>>8112483
i'm making a soulless black cutie with wildcards because i cant think up anything
i might go with the third pic, it's kind of interesting since i think the combination of the black skin tag, along with white hair and afro made the AI think i was prompting a sheep girl and gave her animal ears
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>>8112484
>xinSIR
I'm not redeeming
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>>8112489
No it's trained to recognize preprocessed inputs of all the other networks. As in, you give it an OpenPose stick-man, and it will interpret that as an OpenPose image and apply the relevant processing. Same with lineart and all the other stuff. If it doesn't recognize any of the preprocessed variants, it will act like anytest.
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>>8112497
that sounds really stupid
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>>8112487
That just turns everyone into involuntary namefags though.
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>>8112487
big cheese
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>>8112497
but also xinsir is trained on base sdxl unlike anytest which is trained on pony
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>>8112497
Why does it even work on pony? any complex cn usually shits the bed because of astratroon
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>>8112499
Why? It works just as you'd expect.
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I switched to NAI and dont wanna go back
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>>8112485
Yeah I'm not sure what I can do to get it to work. Maybe there needs to be more pictures in the dataset but I did make a miku grid just to show that I wasn't cherry picking gens. I'll keep testing it with loras and see if it finally clicks.
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>>8112493
>>8112494
You didn't answer the question.
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>>8112511
>You didn't answer the question.
>I prefer batch size 1
?
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>>8112506
Post some gens.
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>>8112506
I want to switch to NAI but they don't accept funny internet money
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>>8112512
Why do I need to spell you that you need to provide objectively valid facts and how they affected your decision? You just posted "I kinda liked bs 1", which is even less useful than the other anon's reply.
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(You)
Come and get it.
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>>8112519
you've gotta put more effort into your bait, anon
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>>8112519
I kinda didn't like you
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>>8112528
i love discord screenshot
thank tyou anon
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>>8112528
based!1
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>>8112528
literally not a single person in the whole world cares about tree's website besides b-
post the screenshot about a member of jordach's discord telling him that his model looks like shit to his face, that one is more fun
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>>8112528
catbox?
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i don't understand the hate for cat hags
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>>8112531
The only people actually using the partial epochs are b- and some furry named tigerlith
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>>8112534
it's mostly hate for the /aco/ artstyle desu
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>>8112534
They are obese and /aco/. Whatever you posted isn't even a hag by comparison if you were going for that.
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>>8112534
That's not a hag.
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>>8112537
Or for the memory of his previous /aco/ artstyle
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>>8112534
boi what the hell boi
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>>8112534
>barely legal woman
>hag
call me back when she's 40 bordering 50
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treechan has been stuck in limbo of connecting... for like 5 days for me, anyone else have that?
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>>8112368
>Lore accurate illustration of the "fallen hero" timeline
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>download wildcard pack to use, finding good use out of the color wildcard
>gens this out of nowhere
>"cortana blue"
>skim through and see other tags with character tags any model would recognize
hmm
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>>8112549
last i heard it was getting DDOSed
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>>8112549
Worked for a couple hours just a minute ago, somebody even posted there, and now doesn't work again.
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>>8112549
most functional product built by mean & jordach
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>>8112534
Always appreciate anime girls getting fucked by a nice lad like this.
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>lore accurate illustration of just the regular mario timeline
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>>8112534
woah woah woah. How did you get thigh band to work with pantyhose. Box?
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>>8112547
she's at least 500 years old anon
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>lore accurate illustration of anon's mom
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>>8112568
dont care. make her look like a hag or im asking for a refund
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>>8112568
so are remilia and flandre but janny would murder you for posting them
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>>8112572
that's because they aren't hags, duh
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>>8112562
Why did you cut the part where jordach compares model testing to audio engineering?
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>>8112534
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so will i get banned if i use the automatic1111 webui thing for NAI? i just yesterday started using comfyui a bit to see how local gen is but improving on NAI gens with better inpainting etc. while I still pay for it (and might continue paying for it anyway) sound pretty good.
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>>8112581
>so will i get banned if i use the automatic1111 webui thing for NAI?
It's summary executiion...
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>>8112581
You'll get banned if you have it running 24/7 or probably if you try to make too many batch size >1 requests.
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>>8112581
just dont repeatedly gen on your key for hours straight and you'll be fine
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>>8112567
it's his autistically precise character lora
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>>8112588
Yeah but I want to know how he did it.
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>>8112582
and is it worth the risk of execution? from what i read adetailer is the equivalent of facedetailer on comfyui and that seems pretty useful from my brief experimentation. being able to use that on nai gens sounds great.
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>>8112590
i trained it on pictures of her wearing pantyhose and a thigh strap, pictures of her wearing only the thigh strap and pictures of her without the thigh strap. I've only had issues with it being on the wrong let
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>>8112595
Ah okay thanks. Pony seems to always remove the pantyhose whenever I prompt thigh strap unless I'm doing a pose very similar to the dataset or if I get lucky.
>>
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>>8112591
i mean i would never use ai without inpainting and good upscaling i don't get how naibros do it
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>>8112603
what makes you think nai doesn't have both of those things
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>>8112603
>without inpainting
bro?
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>>8112602
needs cum or /e/
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>>8112603
It's nai, it comes out perfectly
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>>8112569
>>8112563
At least put in some effort you DILF.
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>>8112603
>without inpainting and good upscaling
i can't imagine inpainting without infill at this point
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>>8112609
dude on the right is PACKING holy
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>>8112603
not disagreeing that it is not as versatile as some of the stuff i see on local, but with workarounds and some manual work with Affinity I get great results when i can be arsed. would really like to simplify it and make it more braindead again hence the curiosity about the webui thing.
>>8112585
that might be a legit concern then because i do nothing else some days. lmao
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>>8112414
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Any good ecchi harems that came out in the past couple years? I had fun watching megami no cafe terrace and making lewd edits
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>>8112618
good prompt but too realistic
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>>8112605
it costs the neetbucks doe doesn't it
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hello anons,i'm new to this whole stuff,using the webui with autismmixponySDXL model
however whenever i try to use a lora i get a "connection errored out" error regardless of the setting
add-detail-xl , concept-gesugao
what might be the problem? they are for SDXL models so it should work no problem,downloaded them from civitai
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>>8112618
This is what /hdg/ will look like in 2025 when everyone sane leaves this shithole.
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>>8112624
the /sdg/ification of /hdg/
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>>8112623
is your webui actually open? Connection errored out means it cant connect to the webpage, try restarting your webui if its open
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>1girl, 1boy
>onee-shota
eeeyup. gennin' time
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>>8112609
like taking an image and putting it through controlnet? tsk tsk
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>>8112621
While I do agree, I just like to try new models and see how they react. I've been on a huge tawawa stint though and I needed a change
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>>8112624
that would imply that anybody sane posts here now
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>>8112609
>effort
>controlnet
>fingers still melting into clothes
>whatever's going on near right pubes
>the style
Bro?
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>>8112628
>>8112636
it's a lora you GILF
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>>8112626
yeah? the image generating works no problem without a lora,the problem happens whenever i try to use one
CPU and memory usage goes up but after a while it just shits itself and i get the error message
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>>8112619
>megami no cafe terrace
good taste
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>>8112619
Ermmmm, the last good anime aired in 1987 akstually
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>>8112623
That sounds like you're crashing the entire thing anon, your VRAM?
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Some random guy on reddit is claiming that civitai is going to nuke all NSFW content soon due to regulations because they're US based.
Any truth to this?
Should we start backing everything up?
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>>8112649
RX6600XT,8GB VRAM
yeah i know >AYYMD
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>>8112652
If they do I'm taking down all my shit.
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>>8112653
what platform are you on? zluda,rocm,onnx,directml?
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>>8112652
>he downloaded anything from civitai
>he uploaded anything to civitai
hello sars
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>>8112619
100kano i guess
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>>8112652
it's pretty impressive to get a "take your meds" comment on reddit, i must say
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Do any of the cfg++ work besides sde? Tried the others and they fry even at the cfg threshold.
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>>8112672
ya
they suck da balls doe
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>>8112659
it's supposed to be directml
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https://civitai.com/images/20700540
Is schizo prompting the key to interesting images?
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>>8112683
You're most likely running out of memory. It's surprising that sdxl works on directml with 8gb at all
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>>8112689
What's the recommended amount? 12GB vram and up?
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>>8111661
Nice outdoors one.
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>>8112691
You can switch to either zluda or rocm which have much better memory optimization than directml. 8gb should be enough for loras with those
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>>8112256
Can you do IA or GUMI like that next time?
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>>8112694
all right i just checked and it maxes out my memory which is at 16GB without touching the graphics card(no utilization at all) and then it dies when it's maxed out
the fuck
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Somebody make a fang/sharp_teeth lora because these things never come out properly.
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>>8112699
That means that your directml isn't set up correctly and you're genning on your cpu. Note that it wouldn't work on gpu either
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>>8112695
Cute and happy. Also navel too low.
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>>8112703
i see,gonna look up how to switch if possible at all on windows + amd combo
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>>8112702
surely sabertooth \(anatomy\) will work
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lads im needing something crispy. crank your cfg to 40 and show me what it churns out
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>>8112707
do it yourself?
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>>8112705
https://github.com/lshqqytiger/stable-diffusion-webui-amdgpu-forge
Try this repo
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is it possible to make a custom character lora form 1 image? I just want to be able to gen the same character at different poses and styles so i can make a better dataset
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>>8112603
i manually upscale my images 2x the original size (or more if i want to suffer) and if their inpainting doesn't do the job i just edit in what i need and run it through i2i
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>>8112707
https://litter.catbox.moe/u3f8e8.png
Can only crank it up to 30 on reforge
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>>8112714
cinema
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>>8112714
I think the CFG limits comes by default on forge/reforge/a1111

on ui-config.json you can edit

"txt2img/CFG Scale/maximum": 30.0,

to set any max value you may want
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>>8112685
always has been
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>>8112717
Is there even a model/sampler/scheduler/whatever combo that can handle 30?
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>>8112709
aaa,didn't know this exist,thanks;i'll see if it works better
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>>8112714
beautiful, im glad i can still see something happening here
>>8112708
i want to see the creativity of this board
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Bros......this is too much power......I can't....
>Sketch
https://files.catbox.moe/2hmt81.jpg
>Anytest->Img2img
https://files.catbox.moe/59grrj.png
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>>8112711
yes
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>>8112711
Yes
https://civitai.com/articles/903/training-an-oc-lora-with-a-single-base-image-part-1
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>>8112722
I don't think so, or hope IoI
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>>8112733
you have the ability to draw, and you do not suffer from whatever mental affliction that causes people to irrationally hate AI
now that is powerful
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>>8112724
Is that my boy dr_graevling? Put him in negs for some fun.
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>wanted to make another comic
>some wholesome with /h/ in it
>picked a somewhat neat plot
>ran it by a buddy
>they wanted a change to the opening/plot
>the change they wanted hit too close to home
>actually struggling to get the gens to look right because its starting to get under my skin
i never expected somethin this close to home to tug at my heartstrings. good to know i feel still but fuck man
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https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1e8voaf/badapple_in_comfyui/
Least mentally ill comfy user
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>>8112746
>linking to reddit
kill yourse-
>bad apple autism
alright ill let it slide for now, just this once
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>>8112619
Isekai meikyuu de harem wo
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>>8112745
That seems like an unnecessary amount of effort but it better be good.
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>>8112756
That one creeped me out
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Does anyone know if there is a rinnegan Lora?
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>>8112695
Who? Pony doesn't know either of those characters unfortunately.
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>>8112702
Right after you post a catbox
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>>8112768
Kino...
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>>8112768
dump truck AND milk truck have arrived
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>>8112768
what is this modern minimalist art piece, is this social commentary on how much sex has been ingrained into our culture as a whole?
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>MULTIPLE
>VIEWS
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>>8112733
uoh
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>>8112768
amogus
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>>8112776
nai's strongest shiller
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>>8112776
Too much of a pain to gen
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What's the proper way to use regional prompter when adding more than one girl? I feel like every time I give it a whirl it just cuts shit at the wrong angle and ends up bleeding prompts over to the other girl.
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>>8112782
You can use a low strenght cn to make it less gacha
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>>8112786
>natively genning coherent sfx
local model on par with nai never
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>>8112788
>He wasn't here during the plap plap plap phase
ngmi
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>>8112788
we simply need more losses other than MSE
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>>8112784
Yeah fair enough I've used that method before. I don't prowl these threads much so I wasn't sure if there was a new way or not. Thanks anon.
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Did that anon who wanted to make better person detection models for adetailer ever give an update?
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>only nai can smear the pixels and add lots of jpg artifacts
freetardlocalturd bros....
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>>8112786
Should be as easy as putting them in your dataset. I spent a bunch of time cleaning the "ahs" but left the "nns."
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>>8112788
as someone who can actually read that, "no thanks." It's just gibberish minus the mediocre-formed あっ's that don't really fit the expression.
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more and more people are realizing local is fucking done for. slap together all the garbage samplers and schedulers you want, it means nothing when all your core models are complete shit. kurumuz was right. local simply cannot cook
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>nai plans to add even more blur
local is fucking doomed...
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>>8112800
I really don't see the problem. Before SDXL people were pushing 1.5 to its limits and now we'll do the same with SDXL. By that point a new and improved model will be out and we'll all migrate and repeat the cycle again.
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>>8112802
bro! dont worry! you can simply slather grease all over your image to replicate the look!
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Jordach is a brand risk
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>>8112800
hey retarded roach
where are my modules v2
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>>8112806
>pushing 1.5 to its limits
if by that you mean schizomerging a bunch of sloptunes (based off of the NAI leak) until something clicked... yeah, no.
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>>8112603
it does have proper inpainting if you use it through a local extension
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>retarded zoomers still don't remember anything before 6s ago and what piece of shit we had to deal with before
>>8112812
yes anon nigga that was the whole point of the original post
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>>8112800
nice, now post the one were neggles says "no danbooru gold"
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>>8112813
sorry
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>>8112813
if you don't understand why people are sick of pony by now you're either new or blind
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>>8112817
if you don't understand you're an overpriviledged kiddo zoomie that should get smacked over the head you're either a newfag or a troll
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>>8112818
i see, the third option is that i was replying to bait
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>>8112819
your mother was the local pedobait that's why you were born
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>>8112821
Finally something that fits on my DS screen, thanks anon
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>>8112816
Hot, but penis too long.
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>>8112810
Cancelled.
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Am newb at this. Any of these resource links provide step-by-step instructions for getting this stuff installed locally? Maybe also how to start using models grabbed from Civitai?

Thanks.
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>>8113113
Anon... it's the first link in the thread
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>>8109776
whose fifth hand is that!?!? creepy!
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>>8113731
Threads need more spooky posting. Even if it was of a more sthealthy type nature.
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when is kohya_ss and forge ui gonna be updated to cu124 like comfy? I really hate having to train one lora with 10 images at 40 repeats for 1 epoch, which takes 4-6 hours on a rtx 3070. I miss how I could do 30 epochs in just a couple of hours.
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>>8112929
Are you still around? Would love a catbox or know what artist/setting you used for that style.



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