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>>8231209>>8231210>>8231211thank you for making there, anon
where artifact-less finetuned illustrious be?
comfy is not comfy and gives me errors
>>8231235two weeks(tomorrow maybe, maybe not)
>>8231211>>8231210>>8231209highlightanon I like the highlights but you have to be more critical and cut it down to 2 max
THREE highlights?!?Is /hdg/ finally healing?
>>8231241Agree. Will try to keep it to two or maybe post catbox links for 2/3 and 3/3 next time.
i puked
questionable selections in the highlights as per usual
>>8231245Very nice, the skin texture almost made me think this was a NAI image but then I saw she has large breasts.
>>8231251it's naiv4
>gooknai does danbooru-style emoticon face tagsyep, not using pony again
I don't think tags like bad quality, worst quality do anything
>>8231242Lot of good stuff.
>>8231216I lost the exact seed but it's the same mix. Yukimaru is from one of the megas, and you can barely even see the other two, mikoyan and exabyte from civitai.>>8231223I'm not good enough with illu yet to say what works and what doesn't. melon22 "should" be the easiest, he trained super well on all the other finetunes. Animagine got him spot-on with just 12 images, so not sure what happened here.
>>8231254"lowres" does because it's a booru tag
>>8231250>nogen talking shitdidn't get in, lol
>>8231254As with any other negs, put them in positives with an otherwise simple prompt to see their actual effect.
>>8231254yeah i also feel that, i mean angel did say 0 aesthetic tuning was done
>>8231259i'm actually in one of those can you tell which? ;)
actual new thread>>8231264>>8231264>>8231264
>>8231262Doubt. Also that was a quick reply. You should be genning something at least.
>>8231257>>8231260>>8231261yeah I'm testing negs and trying to find which work best for illustrious
>>8231265please refrain from spitebaking
>>8231262all ugly pony ones
>>8231268Kill yourself IA faggot
>>8231265the op is too similar can you bake another one?
>>8231250He can't put lolis in highlights, so of course coping with what remains makes it a pretty sad sight, but those are the rules...
>>8231265>troll thread
>>8231272holy lack of meds
we should all have one thread each
>>8231272can you explain your obsession with whoever that is? besides your mental illness? i'm tired of seeing your schizo ramblings
>>8231272please go to your containment thread
>>8231274unironically thispedochads on hdg are the only ones with aesthetic feeling for art (opposite of pony)
>>8231278Tranny who cant gen so he has to "snipe" every new thread and makes highlights. Also known for posting 1.5 gens with a vtuber in an abstract background
>>8231281okay, and?
thread theme?
>>8231209>>8231210>>82312114 or mine made it to the highlights?! Will my parents finally be proud?
>>8231284Thread ruiner
>>8231288cow print
>>8231291how?
>>8231209>>8231210>>8231211Genuine questionWhy are you doing this?
>>8231294its a tranny who wants attention
samefags getting uppity again
i wouldn't mind highlights if pedoshit was allowed in it, otherwise i don't see a reason why i should look at them
Why the FUCK do you schizos care if someone posts their highlights? Literally just post your own highlights if you don't agreeThere's ZERO reason to shit the thread up just because someone posted highlights of images you don't likeFucking retards
>>8231306Kill yourself IA tranny
>>8231307fuck off schizo
>>8231301Not like hags are "allowed" either. There's one Eadeath and even she looks younger than she's supposed to.
>>8231308drink bleach
>>8231295I actually would like him to reply, what sort of impact is expecting from doing this.
>58/10good start guys keep up the seethe
>>8231301You could do loli highlights on /b/ have you tried that?
>>8231309his esdeath gens are atrocious (it's pony)
>>8231314it's ayakon, a special brand of ponyslop
I really enjoy when posts have one style that they never deviate from or one character that they never deviate from because it makes me feel like I'm hanging out with my friends every day. It's like hey there's Jerry, he's doing that one child character again he's so silly.
>>8231313loli is an irreplaceable part of hentaiand this here is a hentai thread
The greatest weakness of illu are grey white backgrounds.
>>8231316bwo that's ntr
Should I even bother posting my cunnyboxes anymore?
>>8231320don't prompt for them???
1girl, 1boy, (slop:100)
>>8231318So Shuten anon's name is Jerry??
>>8231324it's pony>>8231325i love jerry then
>>8231322its the only reason to come to these threadsi literally hit shift+w once im in because there isnt a single image posted actually worth seeing that isnt from a direct catbox anymore because 95% of these threads is either pony slop or this new gooknai snakeoil (which just looks like shit)
>>8231327but the cunnyboxes are from gooknai doe?
need new fotm slut to gen
>>8231325yeah, jerry douji. he took his wife's title as a surname because she (cutely) threatened to kill him otherwise
>>8231319That would be off topic so fuck off to /b/ or /trash/ where it is not
>>8231327Nice to hear there are some of us left.Any requests? I want some new fun gen ideas.Let me know if you have some hate for "x style"
Gonna dump some loras tomorrow for illustrious.
>>8231328nah fuck right off with your falseflag, its super easy to tell when people edit the metadata so people are now taking nai gens and img2img them on local to troll the threads and try to shill this fucking garbage model
>>8231337HAHAHAHA
>says someone's falseflagging>falseflagsbass
>>8231337jesus christ you're not THIS mentally ill, are you?
>>8231327just leave, less pedos is never a bad thing
>>8231339>>8231341are you retards really that gullible
>>8231342finally, art, thank you
>>8231337So is this the Illustrious version of the sepia aco pony shitpost
>>8231343what is wrong with pedophilia?
>>8231342does it know homurahara uniform btw?
>>8231342enjoy your ban pedofag
>>8231336Saya is back on the menu?
>>8231256>from one of the megasThink you can just give me a link? Can't find it
>>8231355Nice, Asuka <3
>>8231342based
>>8231357Guess I can go through the megas same as you?https://mega.nz/folder/2uBXjCRY#lPq-GnLJ1izbiJF0Y1N6TQ/folder/jrYzzRLBThis guy does really strong loras, but they all need an activation tag.
>>8231283what is this position called?>>8231282yay, a touhoe
>>8231365Fuck that looks nice, fappable work
>>8231237>he thought comfy was comfyahahahaaha we got another one
>>8231363full nelson, which is just reverse suspended congress with the legs held up like that背面駅弁 in moon rune
gooknai needs more redundancy in how you prompt than pony
I'm going to be gone for a little bit but if something big happens with Illustrious you guys will tell me once I get back, right?
>>8231371no, just lurk
>>8231370What is gooknai
>>8231373lurk for 3 decades before posting again
>>8231374Nostop giving things retarded nicknames just say the model name
>>8231376it's slantaom
>>8231374you must be at least 18 to post here
>>8231376just search civitai for 'lusty
>>8231365That oven is a fire hazard
>>8231373>>8231376It's NAI at home
>>8231355pov: shinji if he had balls
>>8231385Lovely POV
>>8231256>>8231361Thank you anon, I shall use this knowledge to create and spread hags
oekaki in negs
>>8231391no
>>8231391blasphemy
WOW https://civitai.com/models/808215/illustrious-xl-48-styles-collection?modelVersionId=903794
>>8231398>Aesthetic tune with a little bit than 11000 cherrypicked pictures of different aritsts with purpose to make Illustrious xl look more clean.mother load
>>8231398>>8231399https://files.catbox.moe/wq2coy.txthttps://files.catbox.moe/ftc278.png
I'm a bit behind on this Illustrious stuff, it just looks bad no? Is there some power behind it and it just needs mixes, loras, experience and it will be great?
traditional media, marker (medium), millipen (medium) in pos
>>8231398>>8231400Thanks. But training with "by" on top of model trained without it is haram.
>>8231398if youre the baker have you experimented with the te_scale= arg? and where did you find it?
>>8231209>>8231210>>8231211a mandatory kill yourself
>>8231403It's alright at CFG 4
>>8231399Yeah, I don't care about any of those
>>8231398>that yabby previewnot feeling confident about the quality of this one
>>8231403Reminds me of base pony. Takes a lot of effort to get anything good out of it. Loras make it simpler, and finetunes will probably stabilize it.
>>8231400I'm gonna be honest fampai, 90% of the ones in the catbox look much better on the base model
what noise offset settings are people using to train illustrious styles, if any?
>>8231398>>8231400ngl those previews are screaming fried ai-generated ponyslop
i think illustrious is a bit underbaked, but maybe that's a good thing for fine tuning
>>8231323I want white backgrounds, but they turn out grey.
>>8231383But she doesn't have any balls!? In fact there are none in the image!!
>>8231410Looks decent, sure. What I'm wondering is>>8231414is this better than what we currently have, or can it get better than what we have? What's the point of it? I'm tired of pony style for sure so not running defense just wondering
>>8231398good morning bakariso
Anyone find a way to remove the silly raised finger? There's no tag for it afaik, not even sure where it comes from. Seems very rare in, about 1/3 in reverse grip and pretty much none in regular handjobs.
>>8231426>is this better than what we currently haveIt's pretty nice, better than pony at some things and worse at others. Pedos are having a field day with it tho
>>8231428Let her be classy.
kohya deepshrink is more stable than raunet on gooknai, i wonder why
>>8231428try negging pinky_out?
>>8231431>worse at othersnigga easyfluff is still better than pony at what it was made for (furry art) and it's a goddamn 1.5 model. it's time to let go.
>>8231426We've already seen most of what pony can do, and like 1.5 the base style that seeps into everything just gets old after a while. It's straight up worse at western styles and characters, realism, 3d, most monster girls, /d/ and obviously furry and pony. But this being the /h/ thread, and a lot more puritanian that the rest of the board, we're mostly about the core anime styles. In those it's already better than any pony merge, if you actually go through the effort of finding a style mix that's stable and clean, and figure out cfg++, get an upscaler that hides artifacts, etc.
>>8231435we're starving for decent food and this doughy premature bake is the best that's come out other than pony mixes
>>8231435But these two are both on the same arch, so treating them as equal options makes sense. This being a specialized anime model it can't really be beat it its own game, but it can't do much else.
Goddamn, Illustrious fries the fuck out of the image when inpainting/img2img
A few days back on NAI and god it's annoying trying to get some tag to work rather than look up a lora. See-through cleavage is my current enemy, I have more luck getting it to spawn if I don't tag it, even putting cleavage in negatives doesn't help. Turtleneck + collared works decent but it's not very flexible for instance if I want a swimsuit, bodystocking is another work around but it often bleeds into the rest of the outfit
how to use cfg++ in comfyui?
>>8231445That was a nightmare tag on pony as well. Always has to use regional prompter to get it consistently
>>8231444lower your cfg
>>8231444Nevermind.Note to self - 10 steps is more than enough when upscaling/inpainting, 25 is way too much>>8231446Just select euler_cfg_pp or euler_ancestral_cfg_pp, tone your cfg way down, 2-2.5 is enough
>>8231446If you've updates in the last 2 months they should be it the list of samplers as "eluer_cfg_pp" and "euler_ancestral_cfg_pp". If you want the others you have to use "CFG++SamplerSelect" node and noodle that into "SamplerCustom" instead of "Ksampler"
>>8231433what are your settings for deepshrink?
>>8231434this and v_sign seems to help a bit, though it's not reliable
>>8231447I'm abusing that related tags function on Danbooru. Honestly the struggle keeps me more hooked anyway
>>8231445I feel like inpainting could be the way here (see-through with masking the cleavage). Could you post/catbox example of what you're trying to get? I might try that if I get home soon enough.I'm weird like that, but I enjoy finding workarounds with pure model more than just sticking in lora for a concept, that's why I really enjoyed nai after 1.5 lora hell. Character loras certainly would be nice though, that one you can't reasonably work around with prompting
>>8231451I do 28 steps for inference and 16 for upscaling, 0.3-0.4 denoise. Illustrious feels much more prone to hallucinating things in upscale, likely because it isn't deep fried like Pony.Example with some denoise post-processing:B: https://files.catbox.moe/e1d7ms.pngA: https://files.catbox.moe/djmcij.png
>>8231463oh, it ruined her mouth and eyebrows
>>8231457what did he mean by this
>>8231464That could be adjusted by tweaking adetailer settings, I believe it uses a higher denoise than standard i2i by default.
>>8231465is for >>8231456
>>8231467yeah I realized that later I'm a little slow
>>8231469what did he mean by this
>>8231407That was another anon who posted link here. It was this pr https://github.com/konstmish/prodigy/pull/19 which was not accepted by the repo authors because muh sd. I just tried to follow the idea of the longer you bake, the less te training is needed, so for this run I've tried to set 0.2, usually if te is about to be trained with a quick lora I'm just dividing unet lr by 3 for adam >>8231413>>8231418So does it really feels that bad to use it? I didn't know what to put into comparison and ended up at this hag, lol
Tiem to hassle inpainting on illustrious.
>>8231470I'M A STUPID ANON IS WHAT IT MEANS T-T
>>8231474what did he mean by this
>>8231473god imagine the sensation of being lightly brushed with alpaca's unfathomably fluffy bush as she gives you intercrural...
>>8231475no more bullying I beg
damn it, the more schizo and underbaked model is - the interesting and kino composition it makesi'm afraid finetunes will make it boring like autismmix did to pony, hope i'm wrong
>>8231480what are you comparing
>>8231480Autismmix wasn't a finetune, it was a couple of shit loras merged into pony
>>8231116
>>8231294Providing positive feedback to the thread's heroes.
>>8231486I'm glad someone is encouraging actual genning rather than the schizofagging that normally takes place here
>>8231480Isn't that the entire condundrum with AI tech, the more we train it to do what we want the more rigid it is since "that's what it's trained to do". Like asking a mechanic to repair your plumbing
so is pony v7 out yet or not. i want to immediately show how shit it is once its here
>>8231486kill yourself
>>8231496This is why you are not on the list. You are bitter and sad and a bad human being.
>>8231494you'll know when it's out because the whole thread will switch to it
>>8231320It's a non-vpred/cosXL model so that's sort of a technical limitation, but you can always just composite the image if it's only the background you care about. Using LoRAs also helps a bit with this even though they're also not vpred trained.>>8231480>>8231490Yep, it's a huge fucking issue with LLMs: if you train them more so that they give more accurate and intelligent responses, they lose their creativity ("SOVL" as we call it). NAI managed to make a great model by doing multiple aesthetic runs, but I'm willing to bet a lot of information was lost between those runs which is what necessitated such a large amount of compute. Essentially [big pretrain on full dataset to round out base knowledge] -> [aesthetic run on smaller, curated set erodes some base knowledge] -> [few epochs at full dataset size] -> [repeat].
>>8231494he's still tagging the 100mill dataset its gonna be at least another 5 months
What was the difference in training between illu and Tofu? I mean same dataset, both raw SDXL finetunes yet the results are very different.
>>8231501please go back to whatever discord you came from
>>8231433Loveliness
>>8231509Did Tofu also use the Kohaku version of danbooru2023? Regardless, my guess would be that Illustrious simply trained for longer since Angel had some corpo compute behind him.
>>8231509paper on illu will be out tomorrow
>>8231506If it's a monocolor background just use color exchange, takes like five clicks in gimp.
>>8231483You are an anon of culture>>8231503and so are you, fuck yeah psg>>8231506You too mfkr, yay for artoria
https://files.catbox.moe/zeqox3.png
>>8231520this scares local
>>8231487I found the only people that ever complain about highlights are either>nogens>pedosCurious how that works
>>8230281A few Illustrious loras that were posted elsewhere.Amedama Akihito/Old School Academy: https://files.catbox.moe/a4nt07.safetensorsFujimura Carlo: https://files.catbox.moe/vcylt2.safetensorsApostle: https://files.catbox.moe/6ulhwf.safetensors
>>8231520throbbing...
So is Euler A CFG++ with Normal scheduler @ 2-2.5 cfg the current meta for illustrious ?
>>8231522>pedoshey don't throw us under the bus
>>8231520cancelling my gooknai sub and buying 10 nai subs right now
>>8231522But I always get into the highlights and I always tell that IA retard to kill ximself
>>8231534Nice image to prove me right, dumbass.
curious how it's always nogens calling out nogens
>>8231537Why should I care about what subhumans "think"?
>>8231539Concession denied. Keep seething for eternity, faggot.
>>8231506>It's a non-vpred/cosXL model so that's sort of a technical limitationI mean, sure, but it's not just a little bit grey, it's full on 50% grey. Pic related is "1girl, white background" on NAI1 and "1girl, white background, simple background, cowboy shot" on Illustrious-XL. They're both eps-pred.
>>8231543Now this is the Illustrious I recognize from my tests, finally a real post showing how dogshit the model is compared to NAI or even Pony.
>>8231520pumping ahh ahh
>>8231543With the image posted in response to you it's actually slightly lighter than the SD 1.5 example. Skill issue?
uh oh! angel did an oopsie woopsie with the model! please angel-kun drop the next model release that fixes these colors!oh, right... :(
>>8231546What's wrong with my prompt? Asking for a somewhat white background should not be hard.
>>8231549I don't know what's wrong with your prompt, because you didn't post it.
>>8231462Not keen on uploading my works at the moment especially since they're not nsfw and it's only tangentially related to my current prompt (pov hands breast grabbing with deep skin, surprised looking girl). But it's a good idea to go with inpainting, bit hard when I've got the hands there but I need to get into the habit of inpainting stuff like expressions rather than overloading the prompt.The see-through cleavage has been a thorn in my side for long though so if you wanted to throw together an outline of your workflow I'd appreciate it.
>>8231550I did.>1girl, white background, simple background, cowboy shot
>>8231553>22 artists>2 lorasno wonder this looks like shit
>>8231553emerald herald a cute
>>8231555it's gooknai sir
promptlets getting filtered hard by gooknai
>>8231552My bad, I'm retarded. You're right, it is definitely grey leaning without any sort of quality prompt.
>>8231560Adding my boilerplate quality prompts with otherwise the same prompt and seed, it fixes it immediately. I've been suspicious about the claims of the dataset being solely Danbooru, and I wonder if there's other shit and there but the quality tags are only applied to the Danbooru subset.
>>8231561i hope this is a joke
>>8231552Don't you need some amazing quality, divinely aesthetic, impossibly highres, antipasto, 1990's anime screencap
>>8231562What do you mean? The color comparison being bad or the quality tag/dataset thing?
>>8231561Fixed what, it's still grey
>>8231565>It's a non-vpred/cosXL model so that's sort of a technical limitationIt's much less grey than the other two 1girl, standing examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHQ_QjJ-gZQ
>>8230281>>8225555Tenk lora posted beforehttps://files.catbox.moe/7fh2ui.safetensorstrigger is "tenk"
>>8231566Reweik can do #ffffff white and #000000 white without vpred
>>8231553Lovely
>>8231572Reweik looks like plastic-y dogshit, however.
>>8231560Even with some recommended quality tags/negs:>1girl, white background, simple background, cowboy shot, masterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic, absurdres>lowres, (bad), text, error, fewer, extra, missing, worst quality, jpeg artifacts, low quality, watermark, unfinished, displeasing, oldest, early, chromatic aberration, signature, extra digits, artistic error, username, scan, [abstract], monochrome, sketchhttps://files.catbox.moe/w4n09q.png
>>8231575skill issue
>>8231577More importantly, moving the goalposts. We were talking about colors and technical limitations.
>>8231576Those quality tags/negs are from Angel's huggingface space, so I assume they should be good.
>>8231576>>8231580This still looks better, but I do consneed that it's odd behavior.
https://x.com/Setsu2Dthis shit is so lazy
I think we can all agree the colors are better than Pony though, right?
>>8231514NOOOOOO I NEED AI TO DO ITMY TEXT TO IMAGE PURITY
>>8231583>I better give him more traffic so he stops doing it
>>8231583Are you mad because he gets +1,000 likes on his AI art?
>>8231585This, but unironically. Changing the output manually is cheating. A true AI artist makes the AI do all the work.
>>8231588Both are probably true
>>8231583gonna seethe a little more?
>>8231588kinda? I hate that kind of algorithm abuse (1 mil retweets for next picture!!) even from normal artists, nevermind someone pumping out 10 "challenges" a day on the worst ai images
>>8231597The worst, really? Not bad, just generic.
>>8231583He had to grift his way up to the place where he can post lazy 1girl standing and still get all the viewers. That takes effort and skill too, some amount of luck too, of course. And for normies who have no clue about ai this still feels like he's putting in a lot of effort to mask their bodies and add "nsfw, completely nude" instead of the outfit.
>>8231583>>8231588The only thing that upsets me about this is that he seemingly doesn't disclose that the images are heavily AI-assisted even on the Patreon. I couldn't care less about some scam artist fooling people for money on Xitter Dot Com.
>>8231585This is the mindset that does not want AI to improve.>it's good enough, I can photoshop the restThe more the model can do out of the box, the better output and creativity it will have. If the model is too dumb to understand what a white/black/blue background is, you're never gonna get any interesting colored backgrounds out of it and any derivative background will be worse off.
>>8231607Stop replying to some anti-AI falseflagger
>>8231604Why does that upset you? People seem to enjoy his content regardless of that.
>>8231609nta but I don't like people hiding they are using ai, it is that which draws anti-ai people wanting to ban it
>>8231609Because trying to hide it when the average Xitterites would get out their pitchforks and torches upon being informed it's AI is pussy behavior.
So when you guys are talking about "white" backgrounds, do you just mean "basically" perfect white, or like actually every pixel is #ffffff? I can get most of them to be completely white according to color picking, with the odd one being off by one in some of the channels, but never really more than that, and it basically looks like perfect white to me. Same for blacks as well.The denoising upscalers during the workflow help of course, but you would be stupid not to use them.https://files.catbox.moe/re5w6w.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/re5w6w.pngIt's good enough for me either way, but I was just wondering what exactly is meant, cause I've been seeing some anons complaining that they can't get it.
>>8231610>>8231611I don't know, seems based to me. If it is later proven to twitterfags that he's using AI it might make them reconsider their stance. Or seethe more, which is entertaining too; and the dude's popular and making the bank regardless of retarded anti-ai drama.
>>8231616wtf... i never noticed how cute tohru actually is...
>>8231616I'm talking about "not visibly grey".
>>8231623it was pony
>>8231616let me look at the metadat--WHAT IS THIS
>>8231616catboxes were meant to be https://files.catbox.moe/uo0mwh.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/z80af5.pngI'm just stupid>>8231625With artists it's fine in my experience, as long as one of them has images with white backgrounds>>8231626Nah, it's illus. Metadata is there>>8231628It's cumfy spaghetti
>>8231616if it's not perfect on every pixel it's slop and i can't cum
>>8231630Based
>>8231616Yeah it's the manwha upscaler trained to fix bad scans. Doesn't count.
>>8231630I never masturbate with my gens
>>8231634that's crazywhat do you even use ai for
>>8231634I do but only after running the 2D version through a realism model with anytest/i2i/tile.
what atist would people like to see as a lora for illustrious?
>>8231634I also only masturbate to miqo and cathag gens
>>8231639All the western artists that make Pony a stable model.
pony gens make me cum in my thong uwu
>>8231639For myself? Nanameda Kei https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4383623For the greater good(as in, nipples)? e-note https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5870057
>>8231639Hiromitsu Takeda
>>8231639Gnsisir please
>>8231644Try any of the existing style loras, should be enough. Base pony is similarly unstable without schizo negs or a style.
>>8231639alkemanubis
>>8231616Tidy up your workflow holy shit
>>8231639jcm2. nobody was able to get it right due different styles over years.
>>8231635collect them like pokemon cards
>>8231639s16xue and takorin please and thank you
>>8231639Inomaru
>>8231652have the dataset for him already so I will bake after I finish rebaking my envenomist lora
>>8231653I'm still testing stuff. Once I'm happy with the workflow, I'll clean it up obviously
>>8231658>that navel on the leftI've noticed illustrious does this a lot more than I'd like
>>8231528sure seems like it
>>8231630>>8231634If I spend too much time on an image it's not hot anymore. Like a real artist I suppose. Gotta either slopgen them out fast or come back to them months later once I forgot.
>>8231639kiato
>>8231543why is it so fried
>>8231662i was wondering what the immediately obvious issue i missed would be
Illustrious is shitting the bed
In addition to the other anon I'd like to ask: what are some styles that don't work ON NAI, either inaccurate or at all? Eastern or westerns who draw anime style only, please.
>>8231669any
>>8230281 (Cross-thread)I added a few loras to my megahttps://mega.nz/folder/27AXgLSS#-ojw0WbGra04b2Aps31HBg
>>8231306agreed
>>8231658Wtf, he gets to cum with his dick AND fingers?
>>8231669I only had 3K anlas to work with, but most styles I tried felt way weaker than loras, even with emphasis. Ones I missed the most are probably hakika and harada takehito.
>>8231669Certainly fishine, but we already have a really decent lora for him on illu>>8231679All pony loras were trash regardless of how much you want to hate NAI. Illu does capture styles nicely.
>>8231683>All pony loras were trash regardless of how much you want to hate NAI. Illu does capture styles nicely.please do not troll, thank you
I would just like to formally thank all the bakers we have left.
>>8231639jesus i didn't expect so many responses so fast. well i guess use that post as an anchor for lora requests then
>>8231683It was not meant as criticism, he asked and I answered honestly. You don't have to start deflecting right away.
>>8231687My disdain for pony is genuine.
>>8231665i can do this right now but idk if it'll turn out as well as the pony one since style training on illustrious is weird
>>8231660if possible make the lora of the artist prinny801/anime801 too!
>>8231665>>8231657i looked through the requests and these were the only decent ones
>>8231639Ikemeru19/Shijiu, though it's a challenge to train lora for their art due to most of it being gone from boorus and untagged. Also a lot of duplicate images due to imagesets with small alternations.
>>8231688you're welcome>baked one lora nobody wants to use
>>8231639I'm doing some styles im testing out an Artsheops style now.
>>8231696t. samefag
>>8231673>mrplowlmao, I wonder if he knows
>>8231687That's absolutely not a troll. Even burnt LoRAs on Pony had the plasticy 2.5d look bleed through, it was such a night and day difference looking at my Pony Fishine gens vs Illustrious that I just straight up deleted the Pony one.
illustrious still shitting the bed
>>8231697this one is good too
>>8231706start be getting rid of those score tags, that's a lot of unrecognized tokens close to the start of the prompt
>>8231697>>8231707faggots
https://github.com/THUDM/CogView3they use some insane format though and t5
nai3 please leak...
>>8231705Yep it's this yellow plasticity, the aco deviantart backgrounds, the fucked linework that always seeped through. Autism did add this awful 2.5D shit as well. I just can't understand how people couldn't see this. Illu's artifacting is not great but at least it's fixable already. And I believe it will only get better in that regard.
>>8231705it is pretty easy to avoid that. imo if you can just copy and paste your pony training settings and have them work on illustrious then they were probably bad, pony was overfitted enough that my style settings for it are killing loras I'm training on illustrious
>>8231711also zsnr and 16ch vae memes
>>8231713it's never going to leak. the turk took the intern who leaked v1 out back and blew his fucking brains out. gookcope is way better than ponycope though, I'm happy for now.
>>8231713literally inferior to illustrious
>>8231639edakaradekiru is an artist I had in mind of training myself, but said artist specifically stated on their pixiv page not to use their stuff for AI... How much trouble would one get into fr if one trained and uploaded a Lora on civitai? I don't wanna end up in Japanese court
>>8231714We were talking about strength of artists on NAI, and you suddenly brought up the illu comparison and Pony's base style.
>>8231718it was confirmed to be leaked by an outsider. and if you're happy with gooknai then good for you but it's not remotely close
>>8231720Then don't upload to Civ. Just upload here.
>>8231723I agree that it's not even remotely close, but it's so much better than pony that I couldn't care less. AI is a toy to me at the end of the day and I'm not going to consolewar over SaaS faggotry.
Hagbros, I'm getting to a style I like, but my milfs come out to cute and not mature enough for my taste. Can you recommend me some artists I can use on illustrious, or some tags I might be missing? Thanks
>>8231711>Through the relay super-resolution process, Gaussian noise is added to low-resolution generation results, and the diffusion process begins from these noisy images. Our results show that CogView3 outperforms SDXL with a winning rate of 77.0%>My model with hiresfix is better than raw base SDXL
>>8231705holy skill issue
>>8231727Should we just guess blindly at what you may be missing? You didn't include the metadata.
>>8231726who asked? i don't care what you think
>>8231731who asked? i don't care what you think
>>8231724True I could do that, but what if I get turned on by sharing loras with as many as possible
>>8231723>but it's not remotely closeSome of the pics I'm seeing made with it look really nice. I can't test it properly myself as I'm a laptopfag, so I'm wondering, what's wrong with it beside fixable artifacts and lack of vpred?
it's a miracle no one has made an incase lora for Illustrious yet, the most used artist to generate images in ponyxl!
>>8231727>>8231730completly right, my bad. https://files.catbox.moe/2wi3oe.png
>>8231738>what's wrong with it beside fixable artifacts and lack of vpredi mean those are the big things that are wrong with it and they're a major selling point. i would say besides the greater dynamic range, NAI also has much better aesthetic tuning, and it's easier to get "pretty pictures" with fairly basic prompts. NAI >>> gooknai with some elbow grease >>> lazy gooknai >>>>>>> literally everything else local
>>8231668RAUnet?
>>8231742>gooknai with some elbow grease >>> lazy gooknaidon't think the gap is that big there. cfg++ samplers take you 80% of the way to decent looking gens with illustrious
so does flux make porn yet or not
>>8231745cfg++ is a massive meme
>>8231748>still caring about fluxBro that's ancient fotm. Current fotm is gooknai.
Guys, can illustrious do 3d blender like FF7 and Overwatch?
>>8231750>>8231753zzz
>>8231704nta, qrd?
>>8231720https exhentai org/g/3048606/d773be2385/https exhentai org/g/2372031/1fe21d89c9/is this most of his stuff? couldn't find it anywhere else (except his pixiv with like 4 posts
NAI+ vibes
>>8231758>>>/b/
>>8231758did you gen this this wide or was it a normal gen composited on the widescreen canvas? either way, catbox?
>>8231757It's a vidya (mostly persona) drawfag from /vg/
>>8231740It's Gamenamepui for sure, he draws kid faces even on adults. https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8170828 pic is with and withoutbtw you're using the pony lora when there's already an illustrious one.
>>8231762This was genned wide. Illustrious does much better than pony at different resolutions. Should have meta if you use stealthpnghttps://github.com/ashen-sensored/sd_webui_stealth_pnginfo
>>8231765Got better results with the pony one, weirdly. Thanks tho, I'll do some tests without it
>>8231748No not yet, at least not the likes of what we currently have with pony, nai, illustrious, etc. It's a matter of those wanting to finetuning it lacking compute, and those who do have the compute won't finetune it due to the licensing needing you to split profits with the company behind flux. >>8231753Depends how much 3d stuff is on danbooru, because that's what Illus is trained on. I doubt it's more than what was included in pony's training data. Plus (at least to my knowledge) a lot of 3d stuff is animated videos and gifs, which isn't included when training models.
>>8231766catbox script failed to load metadata for that one gen (works fine for this one you just posted)
what is cfg++ guys I think I missed that development
>>8231770snake oil
>>8231753Seems to suck even at the 3D stuff that does make it onto danbooru, like DoA or Custom Maid.
https://litter.catbox.moe/95ukuf.pngeven without the TE, half the UNET LR and with huber loss, schizo captioning continues to work, which is nice. it's obviously diminished in effectiveness but still overpowering the artist tokens.it also seems like multires noise iterations is still a major influence in how blurry style LORAs wind up being. i changed a few settings between 007 and 008 but becoming noticeably blurrier/less sharp is the exact same behavior that i'd see in pony when disabling multires noise iterations. and that seems bad since using my current pony combination of 10/0.4 has been fucking up illustrious style loras around half way through training.
>>8231759There is also this from hitomi.la, maybe more up to date compared to what is on exhentai:https://hitomi.la/imageset/%E3%82%A8%E3%83%83%E3%82%B3-%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E-3048606.html#1
>>8231694That's the straight to jail artist
>>8231769Oh yeah you're right, it's gacha if post editing ends up nuking the metadata even with stealthpng. Here is another one with metahttps://files.catbox.moe/i2186s.png
>>8231779>No metadata found.uhhhhh
>>8231775Is Hitomi ever more up to date? Seems like they've just been scraping sadpands for the past decade.
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>>8231781Most likely they just scrape, but it's sometimes nice to just go and see stuff from exhentai without having to login.Though don't know if you're the original anon who linked me those exhentai links for said artists works, but are you intentions to start training a Lora for linked artist or are you just helping me find dataset? I'd just like to know if I myself should put in the effort or not :p
>>8231742vpred doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me in this case, the model can at least produce reasonable darks and glow effects like in the OP pic, while with pony it was just completely fucked. yeah it won't make black and white background meme, but personally I don't make gens with such extreme contrast anyway unless I just want to mess around for the sake of it.>and it's easier to get "pretty pictures" with fairly basic prompts.easier but considering that loras are pretty strong with it, it's pretty achievable on gook I thinkI'd say that nai's inpaint is still pretty strong point still though, I think it's really convenient but yeah not really necessary to create nice-looking pics.
>>8231742>easier to get "pretty pictures" with fairly basic prompts.>NAI >>> gooknai with some elbow grease >>> lazy gooknai >>>>>>> literally everything else localDoesn't add up. If you want easy pretty pictures, gooknai is the last thing you should be using considering the hoops you have to jump through to get something that doesn't look like ass.
milfbaps
>>8231786It's someone else, I'm just here to complain about e-hentai knockoffs
>>8231792and you're right to do so. most e-hentai scrapers only get the downsampled images anyways
>>8231774so thats why my lora had a tendency to be blurry, its over
>>8231796It's not "over", it's time to retrain
>>8231796>so thats why my lora had a tendency to be blurryit's gooknai
>>8231787black and white background isnt the main problem, it's just an easily identifiable symptom. the color range is fucked in other ways that results in XL ultimately producing washed-out gens. stuff like thishttps://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10689161is a nightmare on local SDXL due to the poor color range. it's way easier to go from a full color range to a limited one than it is to 'inject' color with copium like vectorsCope (which the OP pic uses). full dynamic range can still do muted color palettes while limited dynamic range can never due proper color. it's information loss.while it's not a dealbreaker, it's something that has been neglected by local failbakes for almost a year and only now are people really starting to finally take notice.
if you don't post dogshit you do color correction on your images anyway
>>8231798what other cope should i use then if not multires
>>8231801i mean we've known about this for months but the only local bake who bothered doing anything about it was wdV (lol)
>>8231804nothing
>>8231796i'm not sure if that's the only reason but it's what seemed to make the kiato and deal360 loras i trained actually have sharp lineworki also am not really sure if multires noise is what's causing my loras to fry or if my unet LR is too high for illustrious, the settings i'm using are all geared around getting usable styles out of pony merges and not a more normally trained model
>>8231770>>8231452>>8231451
>>8231789It's very easy, I just type my prompts and get my lolis, hot, sweaty, blushing and horny. Only normalfags have skill issue, I'm sorry you wern born this way:(
>>8231742>lazy gooknai >>>>>>> literally everything else localCompletely delusional, lazy gooknai is completely unusable dogshit tier.Any other local model and you tell someone to add 2 quality tags to get alright output out.No fucking around with combinations of tags, upscalers, schizo negs, artist mixes, specific autistic scheduler setups, CFG++ snakeoil, etc.
why is pag so odd on gooknai?
>>8231818everything is weird on the model because its severely underbakedsamplers,extensions,upscalersimagine if we had the full thing
>>8231809wait are you saying multires is making your loras LESS or MORE blurrybecause if LESS then it really is over for me and i will have to go to the dataset fiddling mines
>>8231821That is why I don't understand why there is nothing but praise for it in this thread. It's alright, but I don't see it as good enough to justify putting my GPU through Lora training hell again.
>>8231823It's the latest toy, and people are huffing lethal doses of copium just like with every other prior model that was gonna be the Pony killer.
>>8231823>but I don't see it as good enough to justify putting my GPU through Lora training hell again.it's not ponyit can do sex unlike previous local failbakesit looks decent with effortit's not ponyretards saying that it's fotm are either trolling or completely unaware how despised pony truly is
>>8231816ok astralite go change your diaper
it truly is hilarious how some of you think pony will be relevant going forwardillustrious is here to stay
>Decent model releases>it does good hentai and is super fun to use>might get better in the futureWhy can't people just be happy for once
>>8231827>how despised pony truly is>A couple of seething pedos aren't representative for the entire thread
>>8231827>how despised pony truly isYou autistic PDS sufferers are the tiniest of tiny minorities. And like all tiny minorities, you are the most vocal and most obnoxious faggots in existence.
pony defense force on duty
>>8231831never really understood why people get so heated about models like thisi dont care what anyone else is using, i want to make good images for myself
>>8231831i'm super happy. this is the best toy local has gotten in ages. i think a good amount of the copers are trolls or just super sunk cost on pony. like even the big scale anime finetunes of pony completely miss the mark compared to illustrious, it's hilarious if they aren't being ironic.
>>8231822less blurry
to understand prompts it is incredible, but to generate images, the quality is even worse than sd 1.5 sometimes!
>>8231836It's acosloppers angry that they no longer have any excuse.
>>8231827gooknai shills cannot comprehend the idea that one can hate this underbaked, artifact filled model and also hate pony's disgusting sepia, horse smegma filled asssure one is less disgusting than the other but it still doesn't change the fact that we're coming up on a full year of local humiliation
>>8231831i'm just sticking with pony until the illustrious lora database allows me to replicate most of what i have on pony in terms of styles and charactersi don't really utilize anything that illustrious does better and i really like the style mix i have going
>>8231837oh nonononnoalso u might want to try high schizo batch sizes if your shit is frying, ive been trying 2 batch with 8 accum, but you need really high lr, it seemed to go ok with 0.003 unet and 0.00001 te decaying
>>8231843this, switched back to miqomix until illustrious catches up. will take months probably
illustrious feels undertrained and has color issues, but it's still a massive step up for local and just playing around with it is fun. i will probably get bored within a week, but i'm still having way more fun with this toy than the others (arti, 4th tail/tofu)
>>8231831I just wish people could be happy with the new thing instead of bashing the old.
I was going through the gens in aibooru, and was wondering how you could prompt or edit the image so that objects fo not overlap, like in this image, which makes the chair look as if it is phasing through the desk.https://aibooru.online/posts/88402
>>8231852so this is the power of gooknai...
>>8231855thats anythingV7
>>8231852me on the bottom
>>82318571.5 does better genitals than that tbqh
forgewebui broke for me for some reason, maybe the latest commit was broken idkhow do I rollback in forge?
>>8231861you ask claude
>>8231861delete venv folder and git pull again, its the easiest way
>>8231786original anon herei'd like to train a lora on his stuff but it seems there's a lot of dataset clean up in order. if you put a dataset together i'd gladly train the lora. i'm training another one right now so it'll have to wait until this one is done
>>8231802>raising saturation in gimp/photoshop = color correctionkek
Is there a tag for the non-sexual kind of eye_roll?
>>8231870yes? are you having trouble?
>>8231873i'm saying you're dumb and that's not how color correction works
>>8231872annoyed + looking to the side
>>8231870who are you quoting?
>>8231874keep posting your sepia man
Daily reminder that vectorscope has a hdr script that generates your images at several color range bands and then splices them together.
>>8231878>he thinks i'm using ponylmfao
>>8231880>ponysloppers have to pretend they arent using pony nowLOL
>>8231882how braindead are you? the whole point is that only retarded people on pony need to "color correct" their images because of the baked in sepia that isn't present on other models. and if you are color correcting, raising saturation is not how you do it
>>8231879explain further
The blurrier the image - the more erotic it is. NAI team knew this all along. Local is finally catching up.
>>8231886this looks like splotched doodle
dark skinned female keeps making the guy dark skinned no one understands my pain
>>8231889I do, just two posts above yours.
>>8231885https://sandner.art/high-dynamic-range-hdr-in-sdxl-stable-diffusion-models/
>>8231884How do you do it, actually? Most times I just lower the color temperature, that seems to be a decent proxy for a "sepia slider".
>>8231889needs white penis tag from e621
>>8231889dark-skinned male, interracial and dark penis in negs
>>8231884how can somebody be this retarded?
>>8231897Any "dark" neg makes the girl lighter, even "dark background" because of clip leaks
>>8231889kill CLIP
>>8231889Split your prompt into parts with BREAK
>>8231903Does it work with Illustrious too?
>>8231903The UI eats your breaks before CLIP gets to see the prompt
>>8231666it's illustrious
>>8231913why are the hands so dogshit?
>>8231917it's nai at home
>>8231917it's illustrious
>>8231904It works with any text2img model, but it doesn't do what he thinks it does. it only resets the emphasis on early token. Like if you do:>1girl, [50 other tokens], artist, best qualitythen artist is rally weak because it's too far back. If you do:>1girl [50 other tokens] BREAK artist, best qualityNow both 1girl and artist are tied for first place. Though both are now weaker than if they'd been in first place on their own. Also best quality got shifted from last place to tied for second place, which may also be unintended.
is league of legends allowed on /hdg/ or is this more /trash/
>>8231917Both? Her left seems fine, other than it's dripping flesh instead of sweat.
Miqoanon, you on? I wanna see your illustrious images
>>8231924Yes, characters do not matter as long as the style is clearly anime. Else it'd be /aco/ anyways, /trash/ is for furries.
>>8231926https://civitai.com/user/Fandingo/posts
>Easy to tell apart anons who frequent this thread on Civitai>They post perfectly fine, cute and SFW stuff thereIt's like a porn movie director volunteer at a children's hospital.
>>8231926aye, I am. I've been working on some loras but civ is shitting it self so I cant post them rn.
>>8231929Which anon is:((high quality,best quality)),masterpiece,absurdres,safe,detailed,ultra-detailed,masterpiece,best quality,<lora:Chimera-NEO-XL-ZETA2-000030:1>,<lora:REMOVE NOISE:-2>, (voxel style, voxel:1.2), 1girl, solo, lantern, long hair, green eyes, bug, butterfly, brown hair, instrument, twintails, braid, open mouth, smile, twin braids, looking at viewer, very long hair, outdoors, holding, water, bangs, dress, holding lantern, standing, night, nature, chibi, pixel art,a digital illustration in a pixel art style, featuring a young girl with fair skin and large, expressive green eyes, she has long, wavy, reddish-brown hair styled in pigtails, with bangs framing her face, her outfit consists of a white, long-sleeved dress with a green collar and cuffs, and a green bow at the neckline, she is holding a small, glowing lantern in her left hand, which emits a warm, yellow light, the background is a serene forest scene with tall, green grass and a small pond in the foreground, the pond is reflecting the light from the lantern, creating a mirror-like effect on the water's surface, the sky is a gradient of blue and green hues, with a few floating, star-like symbols scattered throughout, adding a magical, ethereal quality to the scene, the overall color palette is dominated by warm tones, with the girl and lantern standing out against the cool, blue hues of the forest and pond, the illustration is highly detailed, with smooth, rounded edges and a pixelated texture, giving it a three-dimensional quality
>>8231932>voxelFuck you.
>>8231927alright
>>8231846looks like it was just my UNET LR being too high
>>8231935is it weird if i want to fist her anus?
These prompts didn't work in Pony: - v-arms- interlocked fingers- sidelocks - v-shaped eyebrows (it sometimes works but still keep making peace sign most of the time), How do they fare in Illu?
>>8231930another one
>>8231936>messing with lranon-kun, use prodigy and set to 1 :)
>>8231942no
>>8231940every danbooru tag that works on NAI works on pony, though some have been aliased eg "v" is "peace sign"
>>8231938how should i know
>>8231929Artists do it all the time. Or they make a separate twitter for sfw.https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8743201
>>8231924>>8231935box? i like the style you got goin on here
>>8231944er, sorry, every tag that works on nai works on illustobviously pony is dogshit because astralite is retarded and you can't fucking prompt ":3" on the pony furfag model
https://litter.catbox.moe/ujia78.jpgCan gooknai do /ss/?
>>8231209>>8231210>>8231211Why do all of these look AI? Why aren't people trying to make their gens look natural and drawing-like? Isn't that the whole point?
>>8231948kill yourself redditspacer
score_9 lora doko?
>>8231951Defintely not all but a lot do
>>8231786>see stuff from exhentai without having to login.Just don't log out?
>>8231950nice b8 m8
neat, it gets the school uniform right right out of the box, a chika lora would take barely any training
>>8231950It can do much better by pairing shota with loli like God intended.
>>8231973A R T
>>8231973cringe
>>8231967>loliNo thanks I'm not a pedo.
>>8231973OP-bait
>>8231973me on the right
>>8231973Pony would NEVER waste precious gen space like this.
>>8231979That OP pic is mine sir, I get a pass.
All my images are i2i from a highly denoised mona lisa
>>8231948:3 is "cat smile" on pony. Not a good example, it's a e621 tag. Though it works better with "smug" and leaks into cat. But yeah, many of these anime-specific expressions are probably aliased under weird names we don't even know, or merged with similar western ones.
how come gooknai is even worse at backgrounds than pony?
>>8231951If you do that you won't make the highlights. Go check a gallery view of the last thread.But no, the whole point is to make fap material. You can pretend to be soulful on other boards.
>>8231987Kill yourself jeet
i've been trying to live without an alarm clock but i am way too irresponsible with the time i spend generating hentai.sleep schedule shifts +5 hours every day. i actually get migraines and become sick because of messed up sleep.
>>8231986Weirdly enough the more wordy ones tend to work fine. You can't get "o_o" but you can get pretty close with "solid circle eyes, white eyes, no iris".
>>8231951that has never been a goal for most /hdg/ anons, if you want that you have to look somewhere else
>>8231989why are you speaking to yourself in third person?
>>8231947https://files.catbox.moe/8aaqpa.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dfkko3.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/yuaz6i.png
>>8231951Any particular examples?
Can we stop with this cfg++ meme or will it haunt us like break?
>>8231998No one is making you use it sir
>>8231998My one style lora works fine with Euler A, and I'm scared to use anything else.
>>8231998gooknai is so broken that you get entirely different results with every sampler so it's easy for idiots to imagine that their snake oil is finally useful
>>8231961with how easily it recognizes her is a lora even needed?
>>8232005you don't understand saar I must bake cirno and miku and asuka loras for the civitai points
>>8232005>>8231961Mindbroken pony users when they learn you don't need a lora for every basic function
>>8232005i like clothed sex and while it can do the academy uniforms mostly right it can't generate the shoes correctly and it won't do that green bikini
>>8232001>different samplers working differently is... le badWhy?
>>8231927>/trash/ is for furries.Most things can be trash, but for some reason most prefer not going there.
>>8232009Pony has broken this general
>>8232009retard who doesn't understand different samplers are supposed to give different results mindbroken by pony being so overbaked that dpm and euler gave similar compositions
>>8232009anon it's a single shitposter adamant on being as annoying as possible (without being funny). just ignore it
>>8231951He rarely includes NAI gens.
is there a tag that can reliably do afterimages of body parts? (ass in my case)just "afterimage" doesnt seem to work at all
>>8231951The whole idea of highlights is fucking retarded. Like the implication is that this is the best of the best that those threads have to offer, while it's actually just an opinion of a single nogenerate faggot. People also want to make hentai fappable where "hand drawn" look isn't really necessary. I tend to go for somewhat digital look for my fap gens and more painterly for sfw, usually.
>>8232006>>8232007holy kek
>>8232022rustle, fkey, fizrotart
>>8232019>The whole idea of highlights is fucking retardedsorry but im always included in the highlights when i post and it makes people very angry so they're a really good idea if you think about it
>>8232026Same here sir
>>8232030what discord did you come from? just curious
>>8232032Jordach's server
i need to upgrade my gpu this is taking too long
Has anyone used SketchRush? https://github.com/NakamuraShippo/SketchRush?tab=readme-ov-file
Can we get some more miqomix gens?
Have you watched this anime?https://myanimelist.net/anime/40333/Uzumaki
>>8232048there's pretty much no chance it'll do justice to the manga desu
>>8232053BASED
>>8232026>it makes people le upset lmao!>epic updoot troll 4 tha winnrar!retards like you are fucking insufferable.
>>8231973this looks like a page from a doujin or manga where the sex finally happens and the heroine loses to ntr
>>8232056Maybe you should stop seething over every minor thing that you perceive as bad?
>>8231209>>8231210>>8231211blud really gave us triple highlights before gta6 :skullemoji: :skullemoji: :skullemoji:
>Illustrious-XL-v0.1-GUIDED is minimally safety controlled model, which works as better option for usual usecases.https://huggingface.co/OnomaAIResearch/Illustrious-xl-early-release-v0/tree/mainReleased 3 min ago
>>8232067gooknai but lobotomized to only do sfw? we're so fucking back sisters
>>8232067based
>>8232067Ah hell nah
>>8232062if it were just some faget doing the retarded "le highlighterno" backlinking bullshit it's whatever. Retarded but whatever.Instead it's a faget sniping threads before the prior hits image limit to force their choice of OP and post their retarded highlight bullshit, taking image slots and encouraging shitposting.And your dumb ass thinks it's a good thing because "lol people mad" when people tell them to fuck off without actually considering that, maybe, what they're doing is literally trolling outside of /b/.
>>8232071https://huggingface.co/OnomaAIResearch/Illustrious-xl-early-release-v0
>>8232073>waaah waaah waaah
>>8232067>We plan to release several aesthetic-finetuned model variants in near future.
>>8232075kill yourself
You are prohibited from monetizing any close-sourced fine-tuned / merged model, which disallows the public from accessing the model's source code / weights and its usages.As per the license, you must openly publish any derivative models and variants. This model is intended for open-source use, and all derivatives must follow the same principles.
>>8232077>WAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>8232073wow when you put it that way you might be right. imagine how many discord screenshots we've had to wait 10-15 minutes to read because the highlights made a thread hit the image limit more quickly... that's crazy
>>8232073>i don't like it so it's BAAAAD and only done to spite ME personally because i am the protagonist
Guided can do boobs, I will test sex scene
>>8232079>>8232080>>8232081all me btw
>>8232082I guarantee that "guided" model is just a way for Angel to avoid trouble with his company.
>>8232084its company*
>>8232086Oh my bad bro, thanks for the heads up.
>>8232088yeah all good just remember it for next time
>>8232089eggplant box?
>>8232084based guided model
>>8232095perhaps the worst gen to have been ever posted here
>>8232095try a lora
How many hours of artist mixing and sampler parameter tuning would it take to replicate this artstyle on Illustrious-XL-v0.1-GUIDED.safetensors?
>>8232093It's NAI but the metadata must have gotten removed in my post gen editing https://files.catbox.moe/3vz8k9.png
I get into the highlights every single thread that I post an image in.Do you think highlighter-kun has a crush on me...?
aaaaand hide
>>8232099>black pantyhose tinted brownkek pottery
>>8232108who are you quoting?
moar bbc please
https://litter.catbox.moe/orqzmu.png
>>8232112https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcone
>hide 1 shitpost>10 hidden repliesstop taking bait from people who most likely have speech impedements irl or are indian
>>8232067Can anyone upload the model to mediafire, mega or whatever, please. I'm not making a huggingface account
>>8232103>>8232099>>8232095>>8232089>>8232043pumping
>>8232114VERY nice
>>8232114soul
>>8231750sexy cute cat bukkake
>>8232095Imao
Sexy hentaii bukkako
>>8232098Guided can't do pussyLoRAs trained on 0.1 are working.
>>8232118Why do you even want the "safety controlled" model?
>>8232127Into the trash it goes. As expected.
>>8232129if you are korean and it's illegal to see a vagina or nipple on a screen
And now Illustrious just doesn't want to fucking work at allIt was working earlier today, wtf
>>>/g/102610305>>https://github.com/THUDM/CogView3>>https://github.com/THUDM/CogView3/blob/main/sat/README.md>new chinese 3b model with 16ch vae and t5, has a distilled model too for 4 step and 8 step>>>/g/102613147big if true, new arch on par with flux and apache 2.0 license, perfect for a future /h/ finetune
So the spammer officially killed the -e- thread? It's a graveyard now.
>>8232137Doesn't t5 make it untuneable anyway?
>>8232136Your trial period expired, bro. You need to buy more anals.
>>8232136>no metadataso do you want help or do you just want to whine
>>8232136>888x1216Why? Also do you have "no norm" set?
>>8232138If that was spam it would be deleted. It's against rules after all
>>8232140no, I don't know why everyone thinks that. t5 itself needs no finetuning, you can finetune the regular clip TE, T5 understands and stands alone, no one has ever finetuned T5, not even SaaS of flux or anything, it is even strongly recommended not to by google who created T5 because it would be retarded to do so
>>8232138They have a dedicated thread baker, so at 300 they just wait.As for posts up till then, this was their usual speed before the spammer. Only picked up on occasion when /hdg/ became unbearable and people moved over for a bit.
>>8232067Ok cool, they can claim they have the SFW switch they were talking about yesterday, now when are we getting the uncensored full release?
>>8232148lol
>>8232144I didn't think being off dimensions would completely ruin the image. Also no.>>8232142My bad>>8232141Alright fine, I bought more anals.
>>8232146>T5 understands and stands alone, no one has ever finetuned T5Does that hold true for nsfw tho?
>>8231209>>8231210>>8231211>my first visit to this general>made it twice
>>8232074>Unethical, offensive content generation: Generating offensive, defamatory, or controversial content that violates ethical guidelines.Better hope the CEO doesn't look at this thread.
>>8232074>Illustrious-XL-v0.1 is untuned BASE model, which works as possible base for all future model variants. LoRAs / Adapters can be trained on this model, ensuring future usecases. The model is research-only purpose, as not tuned for aesthetics / preferences.>our model is not as good as we had hoped, you'll have to fix it using your own loras
>>8232151yes, of course it does, why do you think flux needed to safety censor anatomy? it still understands all of those things, you can describe a sex scene in perfect detail and it will understand. for obscure booru tags you still have the regular clip TE, which is all you are using on any other model, hardly a problem to also have the t5 aiding you. the only bakers I've ever heard claim t5 would be a problem is jordach and he hasn't ever explained why, so I am assuming it is just some petty autistic faggot thing for him
>>8232156Only the lazy and unskilled would want a model that does everything for them with no further manual work required.
>>8232146Finetuning CLIP is no less retarded, and yet people keep doing it.
>>8232160tell them jordach!
>>8232160>lazy, unskilledsounds like most bakers tee-hee
>>8232161I also do not agree with finetuning clip after my tests on flux, yet since some faggots insist on it, I can at least assure that they are able to do so without needing to ever touch the t5
>>8232160It's wild to claim that a model's inability to follow a prompt is actually a feature.You should get into politics.
>going through my old list of good naiv3 artists and trying with illustrious>they workwe are so back
>>8232169share
>>8232157Idk, it's just kinda hard to believe that t5 was trained on an uncensored dataset or is able to generalize all this nsfw knowledge. I'm also kinda ignorant concerning the relationship of t5 and clip (does t5 just provide a better encoding to clip that then gets joined with whatever clip came up with?)
>>8232176>uncensored datasetIt was trained on C4. It's a very old model, from the days before AI researchers got their panties into a bunch about filtering their datasets.
>>8231348nothing
>dont train clip>dont train t5>dont train vaethe only people shouting this are incompetent localpoors who don't know what the fuck they're doing. quite literally damage control copium because the side-effects of fucking up are worse than not training at all
>>8232174still testing out but some of the best so far: 7010, wagashi \(dagashiya\), cromachina, ratatatat74, accio, orenji \(wholesomeorenji\)
>>8232180No, training the VAE is fine. Just keep your hands off the fucking TEs.
>>8232176if you want to understand it better, go use flux. write whatever you want. it will be fucked up because BFL censored their dataset so genitals and nipples are uncanny horrors, but it will understand the scene, no issue. you find it hard to believe because you don't get it, but that is exactly the truth, it is not censored like modern datasets and it has such a large training that it is capable of inferring and extrapolating all of these things no problem. you can train a lora on flux on any concept without training anything but unet and it understands them, though if you use the same words 'boobs, penis, vagina' etc it will turn out garbled mostly because BFL hard trained in censorship, but not because of any limitation of T5, the fact that its outputting those garbled things means T5 understood perfectly well what you wanted
>>8232180none of those people finetune in the first place
>>8232152Says a lot about the highlighter
>>8232180>nogenplease stop trolling the thread and post something useful
>>8232188based retard
>>8232180except for that these are things SaaS are doing, its the localpoor bakers who are training clip/t5. you can make loras for flux with anything you want and it learns them perfectly without training any clip/t5, how is this possible in your mind? you are just believing blindly what has been parroted to you
>>8232176>>8232185nta but what about re-training it to understand booru tags instead of natural language
>>8232190Competent SaaS are not training the TEs.
>>8232190nai3 trained clip and even the vae somehow
>>8232187A few questionable picks but nothing important was left out.Sounds like you didn't make it.
>>8232194>nai3 trained clipSource?
>>8232194>nai3 trained clipdid they? somehow I missed that in their paper
>>8232181thx
>>8232192that is what the clip TE is for. even flux can use and learn booru tags no problem. you can train loras for it on pure booru tags training only the unet, too. it is not such an impossible thing, I do not understand who started this stupid rumor and why it gets perpetuated because it is demonstrably untrue even on small scales
>>8232194NAIv3 trained a custom VAE to eliminate noise and artifacting. They froze the text encoder.
>>8232197they didn't say shit about clip but there's no shot they didn't train it>>8232201>They froze the text encodersource?
>>8232199>You have to train CLIP to make the model understand Danbooru tags.This is easily disproven by NAI1.
all the TEs are outdated garbage from pre SD 1.3 and deserve to be scrapped. the fact that we have no better solutions just shows that 'AI' amounts to stacking transformers and diffusion endlessly regardless of the core issues the architectures have. just keep scaling into 500b parameters with the same prompt-bleeding issues
>>8232193yes, that is what I meant to say, sorry if my words were confusing>>8232194>trained clipthey did not>vaetraining vae is no issue if you had the compute NAI does, but realistically this new arch has 16ch vae so I am imagining you would not need to touch it either, no localcuck baker will touch vae anyway
I feel dumb not understanding the implications of training/not training the TE... I don't really understand what it is :(
>pony gen
text thread
>>8232206It's the thingy that makes the text into the funny numbers
>>8232203did you use nai1? "understand" is a strong word for it
>>8232203>You have to train CLIP to make the model understand Danbooru tags.this is not what I said, I am in agreement with you>>8232206in that case you really don't need to understand, because it is likely you are not even training loras yet alone dipping your toes in any kind of finetune. the only take away you need from this is to understand that if a baker says they can't do something because it uses t5, they are a lying faggot, and have some ulterior reason we cannot imagine
>>8232206text encoder is the part that understands your prompt
>>8232206The text encoder takes the text and transforms it into a vector that the Unet gets conditioned on to make your pictures. It has some knowledge about language, so it can do things like bind the color from the "blue" token to the "shirt" token after it, so the Unet can look at the embedding of "shirt" and see that it's blue. CLIP is a bit fucky and spreads attributes all over the place, so everything else tends to turn a bit blue as well, unless the Unet is trained well enough to learn to ignore the low-level blue spreadage.
what's the difference betweening training the TE and training CLIP? or is it the same thing?
>>8232204That's not really true. There was some recent paper where they just slapped the sdxl vae on top of a llm
>>8232215CLIP is just a type of text encoder common in SD, but other text encoders exist
>>8232215CLIP is the TE in most cases, though when there is T5 there is a second TE which = T5. flux for example, uses 2 TEs, clip and T5. SDXL uses two 2 TEs, but they are 2 clips for some retarded reasonso on
>>8232211Yes. Have you?
>>8232195Oh, I never make it. I made peace with that long ago, I'm >>8229638But to pick a tourist who's out of touch with the thread's tastes, and do it multiple times. That suggests the one making the highlights is similarly out of touch.
>>8231913BOX
>>8232223well yeah that's almost a prompt base 1.5 would understand
>>8232224I honestly wonder what would it take to get the idea that highlights are unwanted to the IA schizo. Spammer gave up really early and he probably wouldn't have achieved anything anyway.Maybe the highlighterfag is indeed a shitposter though.
Jordach will be proven right. Architectures peaked with SD 1.5. There is no need for DiT, flow matching, cascading/hypercompression, rectified flow, T5+CLIP, or any of this other dogshit snakeoil that results in untrainable useless rigid garbage. more parameters, better datasets, and minor architectural tweaks are all you need.
>>8232224>a tourist who's out of touch with the thread's tastesMaybe you'd make it if you just posted things you like instead of things "the thread" would like. My (the tourist) posts were >>8229759 >>8230594
>>8232230>more parameters are all you neednot according to jordach, at least get your shitpost material right
>>8232231at least you admit you're a tourist. but the question remains: why don't you go back to where you came from?
>>8232231I do post what I like, that's why nobody else likes it
>>8232227Have you used base 1.5?
>>8232233I've been on this site longer than you.
>>8232219https://arxiv.org/pdf/2409.11340 This was the paper. They just stuck the sdxl vae to phi-3 and got some nice results after training. Could probably do the same with lama 3.2 and a 16 ch vae and get a competitive model.
was here before the kikes took over
>>8232236sure thing, dude
>>8232227don't think it'd understand characters and peepee in vagoo though
>>8232240>he doesn't know
>>8232235>>8232245those are indeed good examples of what you get when you don't train clip for an nsfw anime model
did jordach just give up? there hasnt been a partial epoch in weeks
>>8232252tree was dying or something, remember?
>>8232252>As far as I’m aware Lite reached the compression limit>Any further improvements are on the exponential requirements scaling factor-Jordach
>>8231208what is better forge or automatic1111
>>8232212>because it is likely you are not even training lorasI'm rather sure most of the guys who are training loras don't really understand what TE does either.
>>8232258reforge is forge except ilyasviel doesn't break it every 5 minutes and it works with gradio 3 extensions
>>8232252yeah he literally gave up on cascade as an architecture. not a joke, he's even looking into training on sdxl now (lol)
>>8232259sadly likely true
>>8232259I know I don't. If I don't train TE shit still works the same way, characters or styles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWoSlaN9G7AAre we the most prosecuted and marginalized group right now?
>>8232272he's right tho
>>8232259doesn't it do alot of shit in pracice, like raising or lowring the TE has caused style impact way back when I trained on 1.5, despite no activation tag for the style. Saying it's responsible for prompt understanding is a bit of a simplification or even outright untrue
I've noticed I've been getting a lot of gens of just 18 different girls all over the place like small sketches on illustrious
Everything I don't like is bad.
>>8232277it's illustrious
Return to based64
Return to AOM3
>>8232277chibi inset, crowd, people, everyonethat's my neg for nai, and considering illu works very similarly, should work too.
>>8232285sloppa days best days
But how does the vision part of clip work during inference when it's not trained?
>>8232262Refund when?
>>8232292no refunds ;)
anything v3 was the real shit
>>8232262someone link this new chink model to him
>>8232277The official negs have "multiple views, 2koma, 4koma, comic". Although just using any style lora is enough too.
>>8232249Okay, so you are just retarded. Just say that from the beginning.Here's your base 1.5 gens btw:https://pomf2.lain.la/f/i8drnykz.pnghttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/1e5ceunk.pnghttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/3lk6u9c6.png
Explain to me when and why I should train the text encoder without sounding like you're mad or a techlet.
>>8232299He is mad though
>>8232291It's not used at all.
>>8232299No train, no gain
>>8232302gpt saysImage-Text Alignment: CLIP’s joint embedding space is often used to evaluate and guide the quality of the generated images based on their alignment with the input text. and etter Alignment for Image Generation: If the goal is to improve the quality of text-to-image alignment during the diffusion process itself (i.e., guiding the generation more tightly around the text prompt), fine-tuning CLIP could help. This would adjust the model to better match the particular dataset or style of images that the diffusion model is generating.
>>8232299You shouldn't, because you'll just mess up the visual alignment (CLIP's TE and the vision encoder embed similar concepts to very roughly similar points in latent space), destroying the only part about CLIP that's valuable. The unet can figure out any arbitrary point in embedding space, but the visual alignment makes it easier.
>>8232308The vision encoder is not used in T2I, unless you are using something like IPAdapter.
>>8232298when did i say that base 1.5 would give you the same result on those prompts? i just said that you don't need to train clip to produce extremely simple sfw anime gensif i had any trust in a random anonymous idiot i'd be willing to bet 1k with you that nai3 trained the TE but as it stands i'll just call you a retard and move on
>>8232294Pony has a last laugh. Cascade's donation was driven with hatred of pony.
>>8232312Nah, I'd win.
>>8231639>dismassd>gen'en (sioherashi)>menthako>utsusumi kioAny of these would be great
>>8231951>>8232019>still seething this deep into the threadAlso, the whole "these look like Ai" is beyond subjective.>>8232062This.>>8232073>le highlighternoDid you just defend those? They were well before the highlights and were actually encouraging really bad stuff. You are really just pointlessly mad at this point.>>8232083Add me bro.
fist merge appearedhttps://civitai.com/models/809835/konanmix-illustriousxl
>>8232313They posted the nai3 paper on astras discord today. The king in yellow didn't even respond, his own research is already far ahead
>>8232318Was shilled here yesterday and nobody liked it
>>8232318>Illustrious is a fully trained SDXL model. >v0.1 and underbaked as shit
>>8232203yeah bro and with a 60% of it doing something completely unrelated to your prompt
>>8232318yeah nah, I'll wait for the real allegedly promised finetunes
>>8232325That's how they describe the checkpoint category on Civit. As opposed to a merge.
>retards already posting useless jeet mergeskys
>>8232325NAIv3 took 75k H100 hours for the final training run, and on their 256x cluster that's about 2 whole weeks. to put it into perspective if a local baker somehow managed to even acquire 4 H100s ($100k), an NAIv3 equivalent would take them over 2 whole years to cook.it's overevery local model is underbaked, v4 will put an end to local entirely
>>8232330how much gacha/inpainting did that take?
>>8232318>not a 2.5d "realistic" slopWeak
>>8232334They have no cluster, they rent it from coreweave
any tips on training styles on illustrious?
>>8232336not that much, base gen was mostly fine>https://files.catbox.moe/d3j5zs.png
>>8232336anon we're long past 1.5
>>8232342finally, le hecking touwus blacked, so zased
>>8232336Tell me you use pony without telling me you use pony
>>8232339>b-butlocalcope. coreweave wouldn't even bother replying to peasant localtrash like you even if you wanted to rent
>>8232343>>8232345Even flux fucked that up for me occasionally.
>>8232345>reddit line
>>8232334ok kurumuz
>>8232348he's a reddit tourist after all
>>8232346I could go to their website right now and rent the same HGX H100 nai is using. Only difference is that I'd have to pay an even more extortionate price than them. Nvidia enterprise gpus are a scam and not even kurumuz can avoid it.
>>8232323now that's some BORGAR I can get behind
gook bake has potential but i sleep until more epochs or finetunes
>>8232340prodigy, cosine, lr 1
local will only be saved when silicon production bottleneck is finally resolved several years away
>>8232342>black dude>rape/murder>girl as dry as the Sahara
i have never read csm
>>8232363>I could go to their website right now and rent the same HGX H100If you actually go to their website, you can click on the "Reserve capacity" button and fill out a form. A sales rep will get back to you within three business days.
>>8232340Same as pony, just redo your tags again if you pruned smileys and character/franchise tags. And if the style has 100+ on danbooru you'll have to cut it earlier since it's partially trained already.
>>8232323i am in awe, juicy meat
>>8232378Obviously. Else you'd be genning Reze instead.
>>8232379go to runpod instead
>>8232363no you cant lol, you can get scammed and at best maybe rent a 4x, but you can't just rent a massive cluster without having contacts. they don't just list superclusters up 'for rent' where you click a buy button.kurumuz avoids it by having a special deal with coreweave who avoids it by having a special deal with nvidia. its a revenue share all the way up. only localpoors like jordach are stuck paying those prices. even tree was almost able to secure him a minicluster but he dodged it at every opportunity. you are not Chosen enough to come close to renting a cluster even a quarter of NAI's size.>>8232379this. it's one of those cases of "if you have to ask, you can't afford it"
>>8232387ok kurumuz
>>8232391good, you learned your place. now go back to waiting for more epochs
>>8232387Quite the backpedal from "their cluster". You are coping hard if you think that anyone but nvidia makes serious money from this.
>>8232347An anime only model should have an easier time with kigurumi/animal hoodie
>>8232340https://files.catbox.moe/irsk00.tomlI've been using fishine anon toml, which just worksadjust repeats/epochs to give you 4000 steps before batch size. and change the batch size to fit your vram
>>8232387is this some sort of humiliation fetish, like the "people" posting bnwo in gif all day
>>8232386That's not what he said.
>>8232316>Did you just defend those?No?Saying one thing is worse than another is not saying the other is "good." The le highliterino shit was all pretty blatantly obvious shitposting. This is concerntroll grade shitposting where it tries to present itself as sincere while being an active detriment to the thread. >y so mad!!?!?!!??oh fuck off. Calling out a faget and explaining why a behavior is bad and should be shunned is not being "mad." Fuck off back to whatever shithole you came from.
>>8232397NAI probably has better profitability than the AI hype scams
>>8232342I mean someone could get mad over it, but this is just what 2hus are for. The only bad thing is that this is NAI so it's going to be a pain to try and repeat on gooked version.
>>8232227>>8232312>>well yeah that's almost a prompt base 1.5 would understand>when did i say that base 1.5 would give you the same result on those prompts?you said 1.5 would understand the prompt, but other than some very few aspects, no understanding is reflected. ":3"? not at all. correct genitalia placed in the right spots? not at all.
>>8232397what kind of pathetic cope is this? NAI is one of the few profitable AI companies alongside midjourney. meanwhile look at SAI who had to be bailed out numerous times and OAI who is now planning to up their prices and switch to a for-profit model. the reality is only localpoors are the ones who see H100s and weep at the pricetag. actual companies with connections, like NAI, just call up their guy and they arrange a deal. does NAI physically own their cluster? no, but it's still their cluster. just like you still call your shitty 3rd world mumbai shack "my apartment".it's a win-win situation. their coreweave partnership ensures they don't have to pay full prices to buy and also don't have to pay goy prices to rent. when the next generation comes out they'll be upgraded without a hassle.
>>8232400is this the fursuit I keep hearing about?
>>8232407I'm rather sure highlighterfag now has a couple of opportunistic shitposters who piggyback off him and sing praises so he'd keep doing this shit
>>8232324Don't use it if you don't like it.It's just a stupid merge, do a better one and share it.
>>8232411Calling people that tune stabilislop on porn an "ai company" is a stretch. Pretending like renting is better than owning is also a hard cope. NAI is just a tiny company and can't afford their own infrastructure
>>8232417I think his issue was doing the previews on already functional prompts, instead of showing how it can improve an artifacted multiple views mess.Any style lora would do the same, but the common Civitai user doesn't know that.
>>8232417>do a better one and share it.Why bother? Loading up one of the multi-style loras is enough to stabilize gens. I'll wait for a proper finetune
I hope her tits are big enough
>>8232417I'm trying it out, I found that the quality of the images was much better than the standard Illustrious, it even seems to understand the prompts better!
>>8232417Trying this now and the results are amazing. The anatomy seems more solid and artifacts are pretty much gone. Thanks bro!
>>8231451>>8231528catbox please?
>>8232426its nai
>>8232418they arent finetuning stabilislop anymore. they started out doing that yes, but they grew out of it and now have their own architecture. you can cry about how they aren't as big as google or openai to make yourself feel better or something, but at the end of the day they still completely mog local at porn and this is a porn board. they found their niche and are dominating in it
>>8232422Looks like pedophilia.
>>8232418>muh (((credentialism)))
>>8232436She's like 24, dude.
https://litter.catbox.moe/6shsht.jpgRunning ancient soulful gens through the modern audience filter.
>>8232436it's based then
>>8232431>they have their own architecture >v4 is still "NAI Diffusion V4ok
>>8232436uhmmmm what's wrong with that? thoeverbeit https://files.catbox.moe/2m894a.png
>>8232436Real lolicons don't fap to Tatsumaki, she'd way too old.
>>8232422Cute tits.
>>8232440me on the right
>>8232444tatsumaki is for anal only
>>8232443why is it so melty?
Any todderchads who like bike shorts?
So from what month is the version we got from, March or something? Because it looks significantly worse than what I was using on the free-prompt demo. And stylistically looks quite behind NAI3. The stuff on the (first, not second) web demo actually had me thinking it was decently close to NAI but this one feels quite a ways behind.If I (((triple emphasis))) in 0.1 the artist resemblance starts to come back, but I didn't need to use any in the web demo.So what's the situation? The model leaked, his company's country doesn't allowed NSFW, and there is still no saas service set up for it regardless. What is the endgame here, how is this company even real, what are the other employees even doing? It feels like he just came aboard to make a good model and is now stuck.
>>8232422Tits are never big enough
>>8232431>found their niche and are dominating in itAi generated asian comic porn of little girls isn't such a hard niche to dominate... Then again, last time I checked their value proposition kinda sucked and everyone was using local. Their complete mogging of local apparently isn't even worth 25$ to most people.
>>8232462big girls too
>>8232459maybe it's the one you're talking about i saw it on huggingface illustrious-xl-early-release-v0-sdxlhttps://huggingface.co/John6666/illustrious-xl-early-release-v0-sdxl/tree/main?not-for-all-audiences=true
>>8232459>So from what month is the version we got frommay>Because it looks significantly worse than what I was using on the free-prompt demothat one is from september>What is the endgame here, how is this company even real, what are the other employees even doing?i strongly doubt that they know themselves. they were just able to do whatever they wanted for a while because they had funds from the korean government, but it doesn't seem like they have the any realistic plans for monetizing illustrious
>>8232459this is my guess using an elo graph he shared
>>8232440https://litter.catbox.moe/bsf30k.jpg
For me, it's idolsex
>>8232470Wish Yd would stop drawing this slut already and return to fate stuff. Guess it's the deserved comeuppance for nasu ruining his franchise
>>8232473Oh please. Nasu ruined nothing. He simply ran out of Leaf VNs to plagiarize.
>>8232474that's a pretty nostalgic schizo take
>>8232462its enough to sustain a team of full-time paid employees while also somehow enough to rent an 'scam' cluster apparently even bigger than BFL's (flux). so if local is so much more popular, why have they failed to raise any funds at all to train better models?why lie to yourself about it not being profitable? just gaslighting yourself because you can't access their model weights? maybe local could learn a thing-or-two from NAI. i often hear that NAI users are poorfags, so surely if this is true and local is both more popular AND full of wealthy users, they could put together a funding project to greatly outcompete NAI, right? where is local's cluster?
>>8232473YD drawing this slut and her girlfriend/side chicks is peak
>>8232467NAI users are paying 25$ to be below kohaku.... kek
>>8232475Go play Kizuato and Shizuku and take a shot for every thing Nasu took "inspiration" from. You will dead within the hour.
>>8232473anon that's why you have AI now...
>>8232483the actual only proper response considering what thread this is kekabsolute nogen zone
>>8232480both shit games, but it's obvious that nasu was influenced by them (as was everybody writing eroge in the early aughts). you could at least go the more interesting schizo route of claiming nasu copied air and dragon knight 4
>>8232470IDOL SEGGS
>>8232483It's just not there yet. I can and do cope with a pale imitation, but we'll need some 200B parameters more to gen a real YD doujin.
>>8232470Cute!>>8232486Old...
>>8232473I don't want him to stop, but it would be nice if he mixed it up a little. It's a bit repetitive, and that's coming from someone who really likes Higuchi
>>8232474I'm mainly refering to him not pulling the plug on fgo. His writing was always second rate and he only excelled at world building.
>>8232491No way he'd pull the plug on his biggest cash cow. Even if he wanted to, does he even have the ownership/authority to stop FGO?
>>8232491his writing is the best part about him though
>>8232487well, for a doujin, yeah. but for whatever sick fetish you have, it could be enough.
>>8232467Damn, so those models really are just sitting there stuck in limbo.>>8232477Is it really that hard to set up a subscription donation plan for model releases? I wonder how much Illustrious would make if they decided to go full-local with a crowdfunding plan rather than a SaaS. Would local users see the values and pay big money to sustain it? Even Cascade had a whale donor. Unlike UnstableDiffusion, Illustrious has clearly proven itself. He said before he is the only one doing the actually training, yet the company has 16 employees. Is that really necessary, what do they even do?
>>8232470wtf why is her hair censored?
>>8232494His writing always suffers heavily because he has to try some new format that wrecks his story or pacing (vn, psp game, gacha).
>>8232487We're going to hit an asymptote with training parameters (besides the high parameter models are going to be gimped corporate models). It would probably take less time to learn to draw and take classes on some of those Japanese artist bootcamp websites (as long as you know how to read moonrune) than it would take to wait for AI models to become capable of genning a doujin at YD quality.
>>8232498Can't tell if this is a joke or not, but that's her signature hairclip
>>8232498give me a better sampler/resolution settings or a post processing pipeline because illustrious keeps frying my shit, not my fault (it is my fault)
>>8232503reminds me of scorn guy
>>8232500It's more about endless practice than any secret skill the nips could teach you. Also >>8231664 I really doubt he's able to fap to his own stuff.
>>8232499That, ot he is hiring a ghost writer. He has always been very, very lazy.
>>8232137>on par with fluxyeah, I need source of that. The paper shows that it is barely above SDXL and Cascade in benchmarks and the prompt adherence looks concerning. I wonder why there is zero flux mentions in there or SD3.
A reminder for vpred atheists
>>8232510fuck
>>8232511Go remind someone with compute
>>8232509its not on par with flux, its not on par with anything. look at the example images. they're deep-fried cfg12 looking garbage.https://files.catbox.moe/aldinj.jpgit's one of those 'comprehension at any cost' models where it looks no better than stacking 5 loras and going "see, 1.5 IS smart if you engineer it correctly!"
>>8232517AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IM GETTING FLASHBACKS HOLD ME CASCADEBROS
>>8232511im one of the biggest zsnr/vpred shills but that paper did a shit job at illustrating the issue. what even was the intended prompt? was the hair color left ambiguous?
>>8232507I always preferred the fate stuff by other authors anyway (zero/extra/etc). His only good fate contribution was stay/night, and only if you ignore the retarded premise and character motivations.
ya get skeeted on
>>8232523Why do people keep jizzing on Asuka when she is comatose anyway?
>>8232525
>>8232525Why not? What's she gonna do? Tell someone?
>>8232532
>>8232517Current Foss model papers are always either a scam for grants or some promising proof of concept that never gets a follow up.
>>8232521>was the hair color left ambiguous?Unet is unable to produce red hair on a red background because this would deviate too much from grey sloppa. This happens because of a fucked epsilon noise schedule which doesn't add enough noise, which results in unet not being tasked to remove it. The paper shows that SDXL's higher resolution further exacerbates this issue, and this is why 1.5 had better colors.>but that paper did a shit job at illustrating the issueIt's basically ztsnr paper for dummies, I'm not sure why that would cause anyone difficulties.
>>8232519the examples look worse than cascade and I'm not even exaggeratinghttps://files.catbox.moe/l6d2x1.pngsomehow cascade even has more detail than whatever this airbrushed garbage is
https://files.catbox.moe/6jtwyd.jpg
>>8232540It's laion-ai
>>8232543>NyagatoHeh.
>>8232540it could be a super limited garbage dataset and not a problem with the model itself maybe
>>8232545h-hayai
>>8232543why is she melting into the guy?
>>8232547https://laion.ai/blog/laion-aesthetics/
>>8232538>Unet is unable to produce red hair on a red background because this would deviate too much from grey sloppai mean, maybe? i guess im just taking the perspective of trying to explain to the average failbaker why their models look so bad rather than trying to explain a concept most researchers by now likely already understand. it really shouldn't need more explaining anyway, someone just needs to bake a fucking fix alreadythe incredibly noisy background pattern is another obvious symptom
ok so multires noise = less blurry or more blurry? got confused about what the dude said
>>8232470Based, we need more cute idols
>>8232440https://litter.catbox.moe/ggn2wn.jpgA personal favorite.
>>8232550missionary on top, legs together underneathhttps://files.catbox.moe/1f1dxd.jpgvery snug fit
>>8232558Would that be enough steps? Aren't other big boy models several orders higher?
bois, I have a dilemma. I’ve got low VRAM (8GB), so I’m stuck training in the cloud. I used to train on Civ, then moved to Colab. It’s good enough, but I’m tired of spending money on credits, being tied to Google’s services, and having to jump through hoops to configure training when I could just streamline everything locally.I was waiting for the 50 series to launch so I could grab a 5090 and escape VRAM hell since it’s supposed to come out soon or early next year. But the more I think about how much the 50 series might cost at launch—and how hard it might be to get one—the more I’m starting to consider the 4090 as an option. It’s within my price range, available, and its issues are known, unlike the 50 series, which could have its own launch problems (like the 40 series power adapter fiasco).What would you do in my situation?
>>8232555nice looking gen, box?
Why is it so blurry?
https://mega.nz/folder/OoYWzR6L#psN69wnC2ljJ9OQS2FDHoQ/folder/u9AzBLYYadded ekrea jan and alkemanubis
>>8232569I am both happy and sad.I'm happy that you are making this model better, I am sad I need to retire my 1TB PDXL lora stash already.thanks for your contributions anon, I really appreciate them (and the other megas)
>>8232566Buy dual 3090s
>>8232567here, it's just basic illustrioushttps://files.catbox.moe/vyj6kj.png
>>8232566everything you just said is pure retardedationload up ebay, buy a used 3090
>>8232566literally just buy a used 3090 they're like $5 now and the second best gaming gpu as well
>>82325665090 or used 3090. 4090 prices havent dropped like the 3090, and it's on the edge of being replaced. possibly the worst time to buy a 4090>t. 4090 owner
>>8232572pony is obsoleted so fucking hard by this half baked korean jank model it's unreal. if i want to gen /h/ i load up illustrious. if i have the dark urge to gen furry then easyfluff is unironically still better than pony because it's vpred and has insane comprehension for a 1.5 model.
me? i load up cascade
>>8232574thanks
>>8232572>1TBAnon... you're a hoarder
>>8232587Give me refund.
>>8232583ponyfag may have been able to compete if he didn't cuck himself on artist tags too lmao
>>8232578>second best gaming gpu as well4090, 4080, 4080s, 3090ti, 4070ti, 4070s, 7900xtx, 7900xt?
>>8232592it has more cuda cores than the 4080
>>8232589I bought a load of SSDs during the brief dip, I have 6.5TB installed in my machine and about 12TB of SSDs sat on my desk and probably a few spares here or thereit's a lot of data but it's not like I'm suffering for it.
>>8232573>>8232576>>8232578>>8232579I wasnt aware the 3090 was so popular for training. I thought everyone would say 40 series or wait for the 50. I do game a decent amount still so having a 40 or 50 series sounds appealing for that. thanks for the info, I would also be cool if anyone else has an opinion.
>>8231210incest box?
>>82325963090 is the cheapest GPU that has 24GB and is still usable for other high-end tasks. it's also fairly future proofed since i don't think anything is going to need a better card for a generation or two unless you're tardmaxxing 4k rtx nonsense.
>>8232604why is she so fucking smug?
>>8232602holy shit. is there anywhere i can get that lora
https://files.catbox.moe/hemq0u.png
>>8232606you dont need it
>>8232606nta, posted earlier in the thread >>8231673
>>8232605she knows that you know that she knows you want her to suffocate your cock with her hanekawas (but she doesn't know everything, just what she knows)
>>8232380Wait, it's actually safe to keep character tags in dataset for gooknai?
>>8232608>>8232609thanks. just trying it myself and it doesnt look anything like that one :(
>>8232601>>8232603Shows of affection like this is my aim. I just wish things weren't so dependent on the Chaos RNGods.
>>8232604The only drawback of 3090 I could remember is lack of fp8 acceleration support, the price is incomparable for that tho
>>8232615
>>8232601>>8232603i second the other anon. also have a super soft spot for this pairing played straight from reading re:take as a teenager...
>>8232614to get the sketch look don't use any positive quality tags when using the lora and minimal negatives(or non at all)or just copy my gen settings(both images have metadata use stealth png)
>>8232556as far as i have seen multires noise iterations = 10 produces sharper lines than 6. Going over doesn't seem to provide any benefits afaik
>>8232624shinji is for mari only
https://civitai.com/images/31999394Expression test
>>8232583Proofs?
>>8232627it's still crazy that anno basically wrote some absolutely dogshit evangelion fanfiction and turned it into a theatrical series and people actually liked it. i will never understood how anyone didn't check out shortly into rebuild 3
>>8232636i guess they just wanted a conclusion (again)
>>82326363 was dogshit but 4 was kino because anno was so mentally checked out that he went full retard with the "no more goddamn evangelion" angle
>>8232636filtered
>>8232639it already had two and rebuild isn't even the same plotline. It's just an alternate, shittier version of evangelion with nicer animation. i don't understand what the appeal is and i don't think i ever will. the weird ass alternate versions of eureka 7 are thr same shit, i just don't understand the appeal
CFG at 4 seems to fry the images a lot
nohomo but does illustrious does worse penises vs pony? >>8232653if using cfg++ samplers, cfg 4 fries it i think
>>8232655yeah for now penis are hard to do right
>>8232655>nohomo but does illustrious does worse penises vs pony?they're much worse than pony's, fellow straight broanother very straight anon trained a penis lora for it recently but i haven't tried it yet
>>8232655>nohomo but does illustrious does worse penises vs pony? depends on the style. it's a danbooru issue, both fluffyrock and pony did dicks better than even NAI so we kinda just have to live with it.>>8232657i tried that lora and it really didn't do anything. further finetuning on more uncensored artwork is probably the way forward.
gentlemen, I would like to wish you all anervous sweating, turn pale,smirk, open mouth, shaded faceday, thank you
>>8232660those look like rpg maker face sprites on the thumbnail
>>8232628What style? Also did you inpaint those hands or did that come out perfect on the outstretched hand on the first try?
>>8232664did add merrytail and antifreez3
It's illustrious
civitai produces its own buzz-walled checkpoints. assume the dataset, captioning and config are done at least as well as NAI's. upside: specialized model with lora training and other features exposed. downside: it's trained for westoid 2.5d slopsuckers. would it still be worth baking for?
>>8232670if it can't be run locally there's no point.if it can be then it gets treated like any other model.
>>8232665Yes, but only two of them won't gen so bright picture https://files.catbox.moe/9zlhfc.png
>>8232672True, but the number of people with Potato Inside pcs is very large.
>>8232670>the dataset, captioning and config are done at least as well as NAI's>it's trained for westoid 2.5d slopsuckersthose 2 things are literally contradictory. it's impossible far any dataset full of westoid garbage to be as good as NAI's in any reasonable sense
I find myself in the need of learning how to draw hands. These mangled abominations cannot be allowed to continue.
>>8232687what prompt are you using to get the far away view?
>>8232686was this just raw -> upscaled gen?
>>8232695I color corrected it for the absolute contrast but the composition and silhouette body are t2i.
>>8232697damn, thats nice
surely NAI will give me priority access to v4 for remaining a loyal opus subscriber these past 10 months, right?
>>8232706that'll be an extra $40 a month please
>>8231992same bro
>>8232706they'll release it soon anyways
>>8232713they'll TEASE it soon, in 4 days. but i predict a >i know you're all super eager to try out our next generation of diffusion models, and as you may already know this is our first time building an entire foundational model from the ground-up, which comes with its own set of difficulties. we're almost there, but please hang with us a little longer as we sort things out!delayed until 2025
>>8232715the faster it's out the faster it makes $$$>aetherroom and weird 8k ctx limit on the retarded 70b tuneyeah okay you might be correct
>>8232715Nah, it's coming soon. Why else would they release the report?
>>8232078as it should bebased>>8232069let them play corporate games
>>8232715it seems more likely that it's almost ready given the fact that they finally released the nai3 report and given the way kurumuz and the others have been talking about the architecture recently
>>8232127>>8232131at least it werks as expected
i will pay DOUBLE opus prices if illustrious releases a proper local commitment plan. i will pay ZERO for illustrious saas. nobody will pay for that shit anyway, it's literally useless. when the whole thing comes crashing down i hope he doesn't run away...
>>8232721They also just moved all their stuff onto more powerful hardware. One part was likely due to the new text model, but it's probably for the new image gen model as well.
>>8232141it's illustriousyou need to buy more huangs, not anals
>>8232728it's so fucking over for localkeks naiv4 will be able to reach out of your computer and suck your cock
>>8232178what year? so can we say that google was based?
>>8232150>score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, score_5_up, score_4_up, source_anime,>EasyNegative>why am i getting bad resultspoetic
>>8232744it's funny how even with all of that slop that gen is still infinitely better than any deep fried pony shitmix output
>>8232746lol
i hope nai v4 is good, for the sake of local. complacency breeds stagnation. v4 will push angel over the edge where he releases the september checkpoints
>>8232690Should have metadata with stealthpng, but it was rng.
>>8232749where it releases the september checkpoints*
>>8232746it looks like sd 1.5 1girl standing wym
>>8232752>>8232687can you make the male lighter
>>8232749the version of illustrious we have seems like a pretty thorough pretrain, I assume whatever they've been doing since may are aesthetic rounds to try and unfuck things we've already been figuring out how to unfuck. plus there's no guarantee they aren't sfw aligned like the alt checkpoint he posted for 0.1.
>>8232752>the shadowwho is taking the picture...
>>8232759lol nothe version of gooknai we have was trained on 6m images. meanwhile by september the dataset had expanded to 20m (which makes sense if you tried more obscure characters and artists on the gradio demo)
>>8232238in-context learning = in-context lora training
>>8232778>we won't get itgrim
>>8232717has any insider info on aetherroom spilled out yet?
>>8232778Wrong.
>>8232759they're not sfw aligned, the web demo models weren't at least:>>8196235if they were then they wouldn't have been so highly ranked, as nobody would've voted for them. pretty sure the alignment stuff is only recent, after the gradio demo produced nsfw as well as the leaked model. he's now scrambling to try and get a safe saas set up.you can see:>>8232095>>8232067the 'guided' one clearly isn't pruned enough which is why nsfw concepts still leak into it. i almost guarantee there has been no sfw alignment shit until the gradio demo, and now that's what they've been training the past 2 weeks
>>8232791please do a more through search and don't make me post trooncord screenshots myselfsimply search 20m there
>>8232778The latest version has more dataset than danbooru? Do they have their own captioner?
>>8232629https://files.catbox.moe/auvs6k.7z
>>8232791you're right, the pleb version is indeed 7.5mbut ANIMA, aka the good version, is 20m
>>8232795what did he mean by this
>freetards shitting themselves
>>8232796going by angel's posts he might have just used swinv3 lol
>>8232798oop, I posted the bad screenshot with the bad seeds from before I hand picked the seeds
>>8232805>nonaigen to prove he's not a freetard himself
I WANT THE NEWEST PRODUCT GIVE ME NEW TOY I NEED A NEW TOY MOMMY PLEASE MOMMY
>>8232334256 H100 to train naiv3 is just plain retardation skill issues but they have enough compute to throw into problem
>>8232812just contact the CEO lmaoooo
>he used nearest neighbor for downscaling/upscalingno wonder there's jaggy line issues wtf
>>8232801danbooru/gelbooru is at MOST, counting every deleted image and without quality pruning, 10m. what the fuck is he training on to DOUBLE that? even if i add up all my source ideas (safebooru, zerochan) it only approaches 15m and that's pre-deduplication/filtering etc. did he just download every booru and slop them all together? i can't even fathom how you'd get that many relevant images easily unless you majorly start slopping things together
>>8232819it was lanczos thoughever
>>8232821That's the thing anon, it's all slop with shitty captions. More isn't always better
what is the more up to date autotagger?
>>8232821pixiv, kemono, twitter, e-hentai image sets, anime screenshots, etc etc
>>8232823he says it was both howeverbeitbut he also claims that's not the issue
>>8232834Just need the technical report...
>>8232834it never even began
>>8232821synthetic datafor example 3d models rendered out
>>8232834scaling artifacts get beaten out by finetuning/loras so i don't really care. simply continue the pretrain with better data.
>>8232821there's some figurine dataset added now too, he was posting examples
love these baseless guesseskeep trying anons
>>8232842kurumuz-sensei...
>>8232821i can frequently increase the size of an artist's dataset by 2x-3x just by cropping images to make full body shots cowboy shots or cowboy shots upper body shots without having to actually resort to upscaling>>8232834i wound up having to change scaling algorithms in my bucketing script because of artifacts introduced during downsampling but that was due to loss masks. grainyness might be being caused by weird noise offset settings or something.
Anytest controlnet keeps disappearing after switching to different controlnet like Depth and Open Pose. How to fix this issue so I don't have to reset auto1111?
>>8232853uninstall a1111 and get comfy
>>8232853uninstall a1111 and get reforge
>>8232853Real answer, is just refresh a few times. It should show up. If not yeah do what the other anons told you kek
>>8232861oh it shows up fourth time. thanks.
uh oh>local gets obliterated and btfo by a dude who has access to a100's but said quantity of a100's is less than 10why can't local just fucking die already? stop being so persistent, it's hopeless. just a matter of time before the quality gap between local and SAAS gets incredibly massive for local to ever catch up.
>>8232869look im a kurumuzposter too but i dont make it THAT obvious. at least i try to bring up decent points...
>>8232869anon bro, you need to get some help. This isn't healthy, you must know it.
uh oh poster is possibly about as mentally ill as jordach
>1004 posts / 159 imageswhat the fuck happened? road to 2000 posts already? i thought that gooknai saved the thread, but i guess the shitpost is just too strongmay as well bring back the groidspammer
>>8232875if you'll direct your attention to the very top of the thread, you can see the issue. any thread that starts with highlights ends up like this
>>8232877lmfao it really is hailaighterinouuuuu's fault?
ayakon, noodleschad and iasigma gods keeps winning and you can't argue back. simple as that.
groidgods and cunnychefs, keeping analtan afloat and hdg bumped
ANY KNOWLEDGE ANONS?
>>8232869there's actually a (chink) local team right now with 16xh100 of compute so maybe it's not hopeless after all!
>>8232884wait wtf, did euge partner up with chenkin's team or where did that compute come from
>>8232884i almost missed this one, make sure to properly tag it as [BREAKING NEWS][NOT A DRILL]next timeand HOLY SMOKES this is NOT a drill damn i was kurumuzposting like crazy about the 256xh100 but this nigga has 512xh100??????? WHAT THE FUCK, this has to be edited right?
>>8232884>512*H100WHATHOWis it april fools today?
>>8232884holy motherfuckin shit please please PLEASE show this to jordach so he can do something signifcant for once in his entire life and go help euge and share his knowledge
>>8232884i think i'm too invested in this shit, no idea if this is real but this post had to at least double my heartrate for 30 seconds after that last line... i need a drink!
>>8232885sounds censored as hell into the trash it goes
>>8232884>checked euge's server thinking this is bait>its realwhat the fuck
>>8232893bro you can't seriously be suggesting that jordach would collaborate with anybody under any circumstance
>>8232897chinks don't give a single shit about censoring actually
>>8232884THE CUMBACK IS REALNo but really, I hope something good comes out of this
>>8232893jordach would lead him astray. no doubt jordach is pretty smart, but he has his limit as seen with cascade when he started asking claude to explain and 'fix' it for him. i'd trust a furry like lodestone, and even a troon like neggles, but not jordach. he's just too bonkers
>>8232272>Are we the most prosecuted and marginalized group right now?it's a bell curve>AI users>traditional artists who use AI/AI users who invest time and effort to create good art with AI>traditional artistswhere the most prosecuted and marginalized are in the middle>fantanoimagine listening to anything this retard says
>>8232884They hacked Elon Musk's cluster, its just 0.5% he wont even notice.
>>8232884I READ IT AS A POST FROM KURUMUZ AND GOT BITTER AS FUCKTHEN I REREAD THE OP NAMEWE BACK???
>>8232899i don't care, i just want euge to get as much help as possible nowjordach may definitely be interested if he sees the sweet 512*h100's thingy>>8232903may be truesend the post to lodestone then
isn't edm opposite of vpred? how can they be used together?
>>8232884>double of the cluster that baked nai3naisisters, our response?
>>8232884Dude, Someone has to talk to Jordach to see if he is okay.
Someone post that screenshot in the weeb trooncord and the furry server, cba to join discords but thats where the people with knowledge are.
someone send it to tree and don't send it to neggles because i don't want that fucking useless parasitic troon garbage to do anything with euge
>>8232913apparently he's spending all his time playing blue archive
please don't inform jordach of this, he's maniac and will ruin everythingalso kurumuz, they'll find a way to sabotage it, just like they did emailing angel's CEO to destroy illust
How does he have 'up to' 512 H100s. Surely he's reading a website label wrong or something wrong. There is no way this literal who has dedicated access to that many GPUs. Even a local bake with 8x H100s would be a significant step up. Angel/illustrious doesn't even have like, 4x. It's outside the access of ANY local ML project really. There has to be a misunderstanding, it's about as believable as saying "I found 10 million dollars on the ground!" because that's about what it would cost.
>>8232912Lmfao that one truly did make me laugh now
>>8232916neggles has been looking for a compute sponsor for wdV so he'd just ask euge to use his compute lol
>>8232917holy fucking based if true
euge is too pure and cute, I don't want any of these nasty fucks we have of failed localbakers to go anywhere near him. they won't help, they'll poison, even if they go in with good intentions
fuck neggles, he'd prune all the good shit
>>8232924>so he'd just ask euge to use his compute lolthat's what i meant by parasitic garbagefor fucks sake not again please not again that troon had a literal fucking cluster in xer hands and what did xe do with it? nothing but try to stick up in xer ass the 4th elephant dildo
>>8232926this
Gens?
>>8232933FUCK YOU
>>8232933Ugh, alright
im cumming to euge saving local
die noodlescum
>>8232933>posting gens in the ai threadanon PLS
>>8232884what we really need is 16ch vae. we've hit the details ceiling with this shitty vae we've got
>>8232933have some>>8232941meds. it's getting real tiresome.
>>8232869lmao kurumuz feared of competition
>>8232941I have been posting many gens lately and now you decide to sperg? tsk tsk, you can't keep up with my progress after all
>>8232943With that much compute, why SDXL at all? You could rebake SDXL in less than a month with even a quarter of that many GPUs. Something is wrong here
>>8232943training a model from scratch for it to output latents compatible with a 16ch vae would require people actually knowledgeable about finetuning
>>8232897it's american and gayropean privilege actually
>>8232933fine
>>8232948>>8232950what about that chink model just released cogview? it has 16ch vae
>>8232912150k h100 hours for SDXL sloptune lesssgo!! Kurumuz will seethe so hard
>>8232956worthless
>>8232884Bros, he edited the post and the dataset is actually 16m images.
>>8232960reason?
he's planning something. he only just joined WDV 'cord shortly after posting that. what is his endgame???
>>8232921llamao naikek in denialYou just bragged nai's 256 h100s several dozens posts ago? Irony, isn't it?
can we get an actual answer on the belly button situation? why does illustrious insist on either adding two belly buttons, shifting them up, or deleting them entirely? i have to prompt navel to get it to stay, and then when i do it has a chance of duplicating/shifting. WHAT is going on?
>>8232927yeah, as he did with lolis
https://civitai.com/user/Euge_discord link is on his civit page
>>8232965oh noOH NONONONOOOOOOO WHYYYY WHYYYY EUGE WHYYY
>>8232968pruning loli 100% destroys "size difference" generation as well, since it basically leaves just shortstack stuff, which is unfortunately 90% bad art.
>>8232967>i have to prompt navel to get it to stay,correct> and then when i do it has a chance of duplicating/shifting. WHAT is going on?inpaint after upscale, stop being a drama queen
>>8232921i also think 512 must be a mistake but one should keep in mind that china is currently the biggest market in the world for weebshit and is also home to some extremely wealthy weebs
i want to believe euge-chan, but some troon will eventually tell him to censor content (muh lolis).stay strong, euge-chan...
>>8232974personal preferences and moral preferences must not influence dataset decisionsI will put in dataset even thing I vomit from if it helps with quality
>>8232978Euge says his friend from a massive corpo got him the compute
>>8232884Kek holy shit. I want to see kurumunz reaction since he loves stroking himself with his cluster.
>>8232982ask him to confirm the number because that just sounds unbelievable
>>8232978My current theory is that he just found a school that has compute and he's making an assumption that he could, maybe, use all of it. Which is doubtful. Similar to Neggles saying xhe 'has' 64xH100s when really they were being used to train Flux>>8232982no he didn't
>>8232985Cute Lize.
even if you have infinite compute could a novice even finetune flux?
I'm just going to say nothing ever happens, and if Euge pulls it off that's great. If not, oh well.
>>8232979What's even neggles reasoning?
>>8232991thamks
>>8232979Neggles never "pruned loli", this is literally a meme. Even the wdV proto will do loli.
>>8232995that he lives in australia and the feds would murder him for it
>>8232979Ironic since the channel of his 'cord where neggles spends most of the time is all 2hufags rp'ing eachother, literally a bunch of pedos
>>8232998a member of the wdV team convinced them to keep the loli tag for some sfw images but it's still true that wdV doesn't use any of danbooru gold
>>8232998He did some tag swap thing where he pruned all explicit content with that tag and then switched all the SFW back to it, or something.
>>8232992no, even pro can't flux sucks>>8232995same old troonie logic>>8232998even pony can do "loli". oversized monstrosity loli that is. the problem is intentionally removing loli dataset. illust has best dataset exactly because they didn't try to harm it in any way intentionally
i can just tell its a blueball typo 'well maybe...' nothingburgernothing ever happens-kurumuz
>neggles is typing in euges discordit's unironically over.
>>8233008screenshot or it didn't happen
>>8233000Huh?
>>8233010el meow
>>82330102hubros this is not a good look...
>>8233010bro what
>>8233010thank you for protecting the privacy of those degenerates
no way, the compute owner is in there to? lmfao
>>8233005wondering if the danbooru gold restricted loli images are in the illust dataset
>>8233020holywe might actually be saved
>>8233020alright, I'll cook some gens, seems like this is going to be an interesting night
>>8233028
>>8233022pretty sure they aren't, angel said so.still, i guess danbooru2023 is enough to make loli content by itself IF you don't out of your way to deliberately destroy it (what neggles did).
>>8233028>>8233030uh oh...
HOLD STRONG EUGE
>>8233028>>8233030>ANOTHER NAI KILLER IN THE HOUSEi fucking hate him so much
>>8233030OH NO, THE MEME IS REAL, KURUMUZ IS IN SHAMBLES.
guys i think we might need to make neggle's smartphone explode in his pocket if you catch my drift
>>8233030naisisters...this cant be happening...
>>8233036oy vey
>>8233030>>8233028Kill this disgusting opportunistic troon for fuck sake. Xhe deserves to suffer for pruning loli content
the call to arms from chenkin to...
>>8233030Local won't be able to move forward until fucks like him let go of "trying to blow NAI out of the water"Focus on making your own shit stand on its own feet.
>>8233041
IF YOU TAG LOLI CONTENT LIKE 'ANTIHAG LOVERS' THEN IT'S OKAYdon't read the 'cordyou'll get depressedif neggles and he's troon horde can influence euges efforts in any way, it's fucking over.
>>8233046we need to kill him asap
>>8233030omfg REALLY....this nigga dont know his place. he wants to hijack EVERYTHING, he was clowning on jordach gassing up his compute back in fucking MARCH.damn the back of the bus can keep this one fr, all yap and no smoke.
>>8233044Now say it again without crying.
Israel, you there?
It's over
>>8233055kek, shut it down
You're all retarded, now let Euge and others who actually know what they're doing bake instead of crying.
naisisters...how are we coping...
>>8233010you've piqued my curiousity and I must find this now
>>8233057please choke on "girl"dick and die troonsucker
>>8233043Oh it makes sense nowLax is the same dude who is giving euge the clusterThings are going to get interesting.
>talking about loli literally 2 minutes after the funder introduces himselfBRILLIANT PLAY by troongles and hdjeet flame-stokers, nobody even said this was nsfw but no its time to bring up drama and yap about fucking lolis...i'll mark this as the next sinking of local alongside the illustrious ceo email
>>8233061That's the /b/ 2hu cunny server
>>8233057with this troon attitude they'll find more than one way to destroy the model
>>8233057>>8233062wait a minute, let them cook
Isn't neggles the one who had compute and did fuck all for almost a month with it?
>>8233065>/b/If this is true my curiousity is no longer piqued. Thanks for the heads up.
>>8233065is neggles in there? i suppose not
In Illustrious, how do you do lighting and time of day?
This is actually embarrassing, neggles and this other retard (who is obviously from here) are just arguing about porn and loli in the questions chat. Christ, have a fucking filter before they shut it all down
>>8233068he did make a model which was ALMOST on par with old 1.5 models, he even came here and post some dogshit gens to prove it
>>8233064bro all of the chinese members of this team are cunnyseursbesides euge because he's pure
>>8233075yeah like, do anons know who chenkin and these people are? They're literally cunnycels lmfao
>>8233075isnt it funded by chinken?? >>8233043wasnt his thing supposed to be censored or something?
>>8233064Anon, you may not know, but lolipedos tend to be low IQ subhumans. They keep getting caught because they won't shut up about it.
>>8232884what's the cord link
>>8233077it isn't funded by chenkin and chenkin is a cunny lora baker anyways, you fell for a meme
>>8233080>>8232969
>>8233083i'm craving mcdonalds now
neggles is trying to hijack the computeit can't get any worse
>>8233088god i didn't know i could hate that troon more than i already did
holy shit singling out neggles is peak comedy
>lodestone is going to jointhe local avengers have assembled...
stop being mean to neggles !
poor euge-chan...he's far too oblivious to what these malicious troons can do...
out here Euge, minthy, Angel, Astra, Kohaku, Linaqruf (RIP) have infinitely more weight than neggles because they actually delivered results.whether or not those results were good, they culminated in things that ended up a lot bigger than what they started atneggles has never delivered anything, who cares about them, need to stop giving them air time. hell Jordach has more credibility
>>8233088ZOMG PWEASE EUGE-CHAN GIB CLUSTER PWEEEASEwatch euge make nothing of note either
>>8233081what the fuck i did. https://civitai.com/user/Chenkin/modelsthis seems to good to be true. i saw his 'call to arms' thing posted a few days ago and just assumed it was another censored bake, as most local models with compute wind up being. but no this guy's the real deal.
Euge is too wholesome and genuinely wants to bake, we must defend him at all costs from the retards.
just watching people pull up to this is surreal. lodestone gets mentioned and 2 seconds later he's in. this feels fake like a dream almost. i hope these fuckers don't corrupt this shit.
>>8233099yes, but I don't want lines of chinese to flashbang my eyes every time I look at models
our double agents have infiltrated the server. nothing to worry about, we won't let the freetards get anything started
>>8233114aint no way this succeeds lmao you need an actual leader for this kind of project you cant just bring in all these personalities and have it work, its never worked for anything
it's past the time to use your mk ultra activation words
>>8233121Euge is leading the project with the other chinamen, that discord is just for suggestions.
>>8233125hope he doesn't let troongles get a single second of his compute
>>8233121it already has succeeded anonillustrious is already a success for localit's only up from here.
Kek the tranny just keeps making everything about herself even after getting told to shut up
Let's say things go the correct way and they somehow manage to get into a general agreement of how to train the whole thing, how many tries and time it is expected to pass to have the final refined product? not that I want it asap but i'm just curious
>>8233132With the amount of compute they have, they could get it done probably within a few weeks.
>>8233132I wanna know how jordach reacts to each epoch
>>8233132if they're not lying about how much compute they have it could literally take a single week
they're gathering all the worst bakers in one place, and you all really expect something good?
>>8233132see this post: >>8232334swap NAI with local, and change 2 whole weeks to 1
bros just one more screenshot
no matter which version is better slop promptlets are still gonna get btfo by people who barely try
For the people using controlnet, this kind of doodle works too.
>>8233151but it's not the pose you put?
>chinese took over the discord channelsit's over
>they invited JordacIt's so over
>>8233155nah jordach saw the announcement and called it "bait", whatever that means
>>8233152Not the exact one, no, because of the weights. I was testing which kind of doodles work, and which ones don't. Stick figures are completely useless, for example.
we're gonna have so many discord screenshots bros
>>8233145>>8233158here you go. kurumuz about to swallow some L-A-Xatives and shit his pants!
>>8233158not seeing any bud
>>8233158nope, with this many failed bakers in the 'cord it's going to be one quick trainwreck
what're the odds that this entire thing is a massive psyop and there is no compute
>>8233159we might be back
what's the count on failed bakers in this general, who all has assembled
>>8233164the absolute worst case scenario is that they "only" have the 16xh100 chenkin's team was able to secure, which is still way more than any previous local baker
I said months ago that it would be chinamen who save local. Good to know I may be right
>>8233166my bad i mean cord
You won't convince me something good will come of this, I refuse.
>>8233172It's okay, kuru-san. I'm here if you want a shoulder to lean on. I'll prepare an Anlatombstone...
locals best baker might join the fray...
>>8233179this shit cannot be real lmfaoo
>>8233179that technical report isn't writing itself
place your bets who gives the most harmful advice to euge-chan
>>8233179angel isn't a local baker and he's not particularly knowledgeable at any rate
>>8233184lodestone or jordach if they're there
>>8233159How many chinks and nips are aboard?
>>8233184dr head. screencap this post. he arrives within 3 business days
>>8233179I cannot read a word. What the hell is even this conversation about?
>>8233184>>8233190definitely dr.airhead or redhotgarbage if any of both ever gets in there
this project will only succeed if asians are the frontmen.west troons can't achieve a single thing.
>>8233194Good news for you anon, they literally are the frontmen.
>>8233194I am loath to agree. Nothing good comes from retards seeking only attention/validation, and not profit.
>new local base model trained on 7.5m danbooru images drops out of nowhere, already works great and still has yet to be finetuned>chinamen working on what could be the best model by far>astralite dilating trying to caption another 1/10 of his datasetWhat an interesting month
>>8233198Yeap, finally some good fucking drama
>>8233198>astralite dilating trying to caption another 1/10 of his datasetAre you sure he isn't just sitting with a thumb up his ass letting the patreon money keep flowing in?
>>8233198They should be working instead on a model that understands english and not fucking tags.
>>8233201astra is massively in the negativeI thoroughly enjoyed mr lite's product and will probably consoom v7 too.
>astralite if he is making more money than you it is you talking about him that is the loserFuture models should be hybrid in that they take in the first <100 character natural language prompt which is then flanked by tags as neededThere I fixed AI images comprehension
Any ideia how to use these?https://huggingface.co/SmilingWolf/wd-eva02-large-tagger-v3
naiv4 status?
>>82332122/10 needs a bigger cluster than local
>>8233212tomorrow
>>82332122 more weeks
>>8233215HAHAHAHHAHA holy fuck i'm gonna love these memes now
>cute euge discord discord turned into trooncord overnightno, please god, don't let it be like this...
ILLUSTRIOUS REPORT OUThttps://huggingface.co/OnomaAIResearch/Illustrious-xl-early-release-v0/blob/main/Illustrious%20Technical%20Report.pdf
>>8233224Can this help us bake better loras? I must admit this is above my knowledge.
It's unironically over for nai huh?
>>8233224
it got... worse..??
>>8233224can someone share id rather not request access
Illustrious v0.1 was trained on a 7.5M dataset consisting of 1024 × 1024 images with abatch size of 192. The data were tagged using the original Danbooru tags. The learning ratefor the U-Net was set to 3.5e-5, and the text encoder learning rate was 4.5e-6, trained over20 epochsI had a feeling it wasn't only 6 epochs
>>8233224>need to request access to view itfucking gay
>>8233224250 mb pdf file
we'll get illustrious 2.0 out soon, right guys?
>>8233231For what kind of prompt? At least post it or something.
>Based on insights and analysis on the v0.1 model, we expanded the dataset by including synthetic dataset based on generated images and captions to resolve the issues shown in Figure 3c.ITS OVER, no wonder v2 of the gradio demo looked worse.
>>8233224>We note that open sourced Illustrious model variants are being releasedunder a research focused, non-commercial / no-closed source derivative public license, solely foropen-source progresses.There's hope...
>>8233239reuploadgofile io/d/dz54mP
>>8233224its also very funny just how much more detailed this is compared to naiv3s joke
>>8233222Did it really?
>>8233050I don't hate troons because they cut their dicks, I couldn't care less. I hate them because they are pretty much always fucking like this. Self-absorbed BPD attention whore freaks.
>>8233245i mean yeah, nai pricks couldn't care less about local
>>8233245NAI report was a "look how much compute we have and you don't lulz". I like someone posted that report on *eddit and they just laughed it off as someone trying to stroke their dick.
The local renaissance is happening before your very eyes
>>8233245nah naiv3's report is more useful than this. this reads like an undergrad trying to meet a particular word count but not saying much of substance
>>8233261This but unironically
>>8233185he has fucking experience on his hands
>>8233257there we go:>>8232180see you can train anything you want if you know what you're doing. kurumuz must've been spreading FUD to keep local from experimenting.
>1536x1536>it's over for us with poor gpus
I don't understand a word of what this doc is telling us
it's actually over for euge
okay i finished reading it. i don't think there's anything interesting about it besides the quasi-register token thing, which angel was also talking about in the discord before
freetard cope hours
>>8233270don't worry, after looking at lax and chenkin's civitai profiles i think he's safe from troon sabotage. they will guard him like the terracotta soldiers
>>8233276kek
>>8233269>bakelet doesnt understand anything technicalsurprising!
the cookies are in the oven i repeat
>>8233280post picture now
>>8233280you need to go back
>>8233245Nai is closedAI literally
illust 1.0 dropping march 23rd 2025
>>8233268fear not my 1080 child
>>8233280man i havent had fresh baked cookies in like a decade fuck you now its on my mind
>>8233298get baking (real) anonny
holy shit what happened to euge's discord over nightit was so comfy and now there's two discordtranny anime avatars arguing
>>8233307kek, All those that you thought were enemies have united to defeat the big bad.
screenshotbros...
>>8233308who's the big bad in this case
>>8233310Heterosexuality, I think.
>>8233310it's obvious
>>8233309theres nothing to post except troongles commenting on everything. this shit wont get baked until 2026 with how much of a bloat they're going to turn it into
>>8233314Yeah, neggles learned chinese and is now taking over from Euge and the chinese cunny bakers.
The beginning of the end for Euge
>>8232042I read the GitHub and watched the video and I still don't understand what it does or what I'm supposed to use it for
>>8233298go make some oatmeal cookie, ignore the recipe and up the cooking time by 10 minutes and the degrees by 15slightly overcooked oatmeal cookies with that extra browning are god's gift
Has anyone made any scenary with Illustrious? If so, using what? I assume you don't just roll the dice if you want something that makes sense.
>>8233326>using what?? just prompt for it
>>8233328I mean something that works like controlnet, but for architecture.
>>8232611Well yeah, if the character is known then using their tag just prevents learning unnecessary stuff
Illustrious is capable of SOUL...
>>8233343If this is worst quality then I should just stop learning how to draw
>>8233318why did you faggots let this happen whichever one of you has been talking to him the most in his discord you better fucking warn him against these shitters in advance and continue to whisper in his ear to prevent their infiltration I swear to fucking god this is your duty
>>8233344kek yeah it's a very cute sketch
what's the new discord link? the one on euge's page is expired
[spoiler]Little did they know, Batman was watching[/spoiler]
>>8233352Invite only now, don't need an army of retards flooding in.
>>8233352pretty sure he revoked it after people started flooding in
>>8233355>>8233356if only he had been fast enough for the troons to not get in
>>8233355>>8233356that sucks, I wanted to follow along. oh well
what did he mean by this
>>8233357True, the masterminds of /hdg/ should be in there with their incredible knowledge.
>>8233364>(photo background:1.3)>(two-tone background, blue background, red background:1.6)anon?
Euge has awakened
>>8233360With Angel's screenshots I always feel like more meaning was lost in translation than was actually understood. But maybe that's just an after-effect of playing Project Moon games.
>>8233151Thanks for sharing the results. Do you know if posetest is a straight upgrade from anytest, or is the use case different?
>>8233366If you're not schizo prompting, are you really having fun?
>>8233369>use case differentanytest is more broad, its meant to be used with sketches or existing imagesposetest is meant to take stick figures and turn them into a gen with your desired pose
>>8233369What >>8233371 says.What I did find is that you will get much better results if the controlnet image has the same dimensions as the output.
>>8233237>over 60% of the dataset is average quality and belowIt's over.
when will euge re-open access to his trooncord
>>8233375its probably percentage on their classifier
>>8233369nta but anytest is still primarily canny/depth/normal. This is more like a freeform openpose without a preprocessor. Different use cases. It's difficult to use gesture drawing with anytest because it wants to be strict about lines, you'd have to mess with the strength or end step for every pic individually. On the other hands, this is less useful for transferring poses from finished pictures, or photographs. Anytest can also double as hiresfix guidance, instead of tile controlnet.
>>8233371>>8233373Good to know. For a while I had been thinking about using this lora https://civitai.com/models/596934?modelVersionId=666873 with anytest to take the details out of pictures with good poses and use it as a reference to feed back into anytest. I've been having trouble finding good non-ai images though so maybe it would be better to learn to draw a little and use posetest instead.
>>8233364Why's he going into cardiac arrest?
>>8233380Ass so good, what can you do
>>8233376I'm not even sure if I want to know what's going on in there now that all the bad actors joined. Is it really desirable to get locked in with them?
>>8233380He is a EraToho player. He needs to pray in order to get Suwako pregnant.
>>8233382Euge is only responding to genuinely useful advice and ignoring anything retarded, so pretty well to be honest.
Anybody manage to gen something good with Illustrious yet?
>>8233386yes, tons of cunny
Noooo, Euge is just too cute to be partnered with the likes of neggles...
>>8233378>Anytest can also double as hiresfix guidanceI never considered that. Thanks for the new trick. After reading your post, I wonder if maybe the idea I had originally here >>8233379 would be better with posetest after all.
>>8233391Well, it wouldn't take much effort to try both and compare.
euge-chan was just slammed against the wall by neggles...
I asked the CEO for an invite to Euge's server, it's all over now. Sorry guys, I had to shut it down, I couldn't watch troongles infest another project.
>>8233395It had to be done
>>8233395
How good is ilustrious for Ryona-Chads ?
the founder of OnomaAI just stepped foot into euge's dungeon...
Pony and NAI will die at the same time... Let that sink in.
>>8233400>OnomaAIWho
>>8233400Holy shit.. IM CUMMING!!!!!!!!
>>8233402the man tugging on angel's leash
>>8233404they're grooming euge-chan already, aren't they?
>>8233318>Still no b-chama Every day that passes, she feels further and further away.
>>8233407dont worry our esteemed bluvoll-kun is there
>>8233408We're so close to perfection.
With the amount of compute L-A-X has given local, how is finetuning flux not on the table? Or anything really, why limit to SDXL?
>>8233414no amount of compute will salvage flux
>>8233414Flux is an unknown variable right now. Basically its a game of goose until someone is able to verify it's viability. Similar to how NAIV3 allowed people to get serious about XL
>>8233414im doubting he has that much really, there's simply no way. that would be enough for an entire foundational base. until he shows a terminal i'm just going to assume it's the original 16x that chenkin mentioned in that one post. which is still far more than jordach, angel, kohaku, etc. but not enough to safely escape <8b models.
>>8233414FLUX is untrainable garbage.It's a tech demo useful for advertising. It can't actually do anything worthwhile as far as actual """art""" concerns go.
maybe it depends on the style, but occasionally I don't have to inpaint/adetailer faces on gooknai while that never used to be the case with pony
PIXART RELEASE UR SHIT ALREADY
>>8233422Okay but that's /aco/ tho.
>>8233421>FLUX is untrainable garbage.vramlet cope + skill issue + issue of skill + cope of vramlet
>>8233414i'm just hoping they're at least gonna do vpred, I already made peace with the fact that 16ch vae is off the table for years
>>8233424>no nosesIncorrect
>>8233425fuck off back to /g/, cretin.
>>8233414>>8233419continuing, but flux devs are faggots. neggles worked for flux and apparently cant say a damn thing about it because of nda? complete bullshit company designed to use local for attention to find saas partnerships. they havent released a single thing about the model since day 1. even SAI was somehow a better local/community partner than BFL. the model itself is filled to the brim with synthetic slopped data, nonsensical vlm captions, and all sorts of other junk that nobody knows how to thoroughly remove. if the troon closest to flux doesnt even want to tune it, i'll safely assume it's untrainable garbage.
>>8233425fuck off back to /g/, mongoloid
>>8233426see: >>8232749if nai v4 does 16ch and they announce it as one of their features, it will be spitebaked into local.
HOLY SHIT CHECK THE JOIN LOGS
>>8233436IS REAL
>>8233407!!!!!!!!!!!! not anymore
local is finally saved fellas
so who is personally inviting the troons since the invite link is gone
>>8233437>date shopped outFAKE
>>8233445
>>8233429>if the troon closest to flux doesnt even want to tune it, i'll safely assume it's untrainable garbage.uhh he did want to train it though, but then he got fired and couldn't because no compute
I will make my mission to lobby for the model to have copious amounts of high quality Ryona art
>>8233448he was going to use that compute to train wdv/cosxl, not flux
Local status?
>>8233452saved (for now)
>>8233452saved
>>8233432Style tags?
>>8233457worst_quality, anatomical_nonsense, extra_fingers, sketch
>>8233460>>8233447>>8233437who
>>8233460*me* is cumming...
can Illustrious do porn? or is it "1girl standing" finetune?
>>8233457brekkist
>>8233429Isn't there a furry flux finetune (ChromaFur) already, seems to be a alpha but look like it's working from the results (unless I am missing something)https://civitai.com/models/732837?modelVersionId=819498
>>8233434If they had it, they would have said it long ago.
>>8233463it can do kinography (and porn)
>>8233467had what? and they didn't say fucking shit about v3 until this meme paper
>>8233463It has better understanding of nursing_handjob than any other model so far and that's good enough for me.
>>8233466>pretty much zero posts>every image looks stylistically exactly the fucking sameand this is why flux is absolute garbage.
>>82334631girl standing is all i need
how to raw gen girl licking penis shaft/base can only get licking the tip
>>8233469>had what?16ch VAE for V4>didn't say fucking shit about v3 Before V3After V3 all they do is talk to appease their costumers.
>>8233451no, he wanted to finetune flux too, despite what little he shit out for wdv being an absolute mess
>>8233461>He doesn't know
>>8233475I don't know whether they're going to be 16ch vae or not, or if v4 is going to be great or going to be shit, but what you're saying makes no senseThey literally mentioned no tech details about v3, they just released it and promised that papers would come out in 2 weeks
>>8231945WE NEED MORE LOL RELATED CONTENT
>>8233481>>>/aco/
i can gen sasha \(haguhagu\) porn on illust and it's all i need
>>8233482As long as it's anime style it belongs here. Just be careful as some of their faces are too strong, yordles are /trash/, annie is /b/ etc.
Will Euge-chan be groomed by Neggles? Or carried off in the loving arms of B-chama? Next time, on /trooncord/general...
>>8233424Jesus christ, you are fucking retarded and/or a zoomer.
>>8233485I don't remember electing you as the local artstyle commissar.
>>8233486https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uBqNgxAuBA
>>8233483>forehead
>>8233488I'm just saying you can post western characters here, the rules don't talk about it.
>genned 500 images todayillu is good model
Pony is much better if you don't have skill issues.
>>8233487>thick outlines>heavily stylized>disproportionally large hands>western cartoon eyesOkay secondary I guess it's fine because some westaboo chink drew it? Cope, seethe, and take your slop to >>>/aco/
It's kinda disgusting how all these troons flocked to euges discord as soon as they got a whiff of compute.
>>8233497illu*
>>8233497It's better for ryonachads, that is already a game changer for me
>>8233496post them
>>8233496Do I have a problem?
>>8233503>85k imagesand i thought my 10k was bad
>>8233498Wait until you hear what old anime looked like, zoomzoom.
>>8233497>LoRAs to unfuck the pony shadingNo thanks
>>8233503how limp/hard is your male reproductory organ?
>>8233499they really did out themselves as grifters by doing that
>>8233502cant its all /ss/
>>8233499At least we have b-chama now.
>>8233508I'm sure it looks like the guy's penis closest to the camera
>>8233503im at 100k total lifetime and 3.5k in the last week
>>8233499I doubt most of them had heard of it prior to that though, it's not like they were asked to join and held up their noses at it
>>8233512This. Local is healing.
>>8233497It's funny how quickly it revealed that all this pony coping was indeed fucking coping and lies.Instead of honestly saying "nah I won't pay saas" (which is a very reasonable stance) people made up this elaborate crap about pony being actually a good model and that it being stuck up on same fucking compositions for most of the prompts is actually a good thing, that you could always train a lOrA to compensate for its terrible inadequacies like awful expressions, awful character knowledge, that its colors are good enough and its just shills making up shit etc etc. Literally same shit as it was with 1.5 - UHH you actually don't need a good model, you could use a lora!!! - and then, when a model capable of sex releases, they drop 1.5 slop almost immediately.
>>8233499jordach stands alone but he will never falter
>>8233499Can someone give me a brief rundown of the happenings?
>>8233508nta but I have around 50k saved from 1.5 days till now, total prompted txt2img/img2img is countless at this point and my dick is still doing great!
>>8233522Local won. Naikiller incoming in less than 2 weeks .
>>8233498>>8233505The show's style was meant to be a parody of cartoons. But this one went more than halfway back to anime. I mean it's pretty far from https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1727444/mediaviewer/rm232201984/ which is actually just /aco/Don't know if that's illu being stubborn, or intentional from that anon who genned it.
>>8233522Euge is now packing and troonies started flocking to him
>>8233522euge and random chinamen have up to 512x h100 (still zero actual proof). this would be 2x that of NAI if true. the news spread life wildfire and never every griftroon has pulled up. neggles shamelessly begged to have compute access. arguing and troonbabble floods the channels as euge sits there quietly trying to glean what little useful information he can
>>8233450Based
bros this is literally heckin avengers
>>8233520When pony was released it was the best model available. It had by far the best character knowledge and furries have better tags than danbooru.danbooru only has vanilla tags whereas on e621 you get stuff like perching_position which on illu you can only hope to get randomly when tagging size_difference
>>8233525It is a parody, but retardo-kun cannot tell /aco/ or anime style apart.
>>8233522>Euge-chan (Artiwaifu creator) has a discord channel, only a few members >Euge-chan is very cute and humble, listening to suggestions earnestly and winning the hearts of many, but isn't very well known >Euge-chan announces he's got a lot of compute, btfo Nai's cluster tier compute>Suddenly, every troon, furry baker and their mom's nephew's pet bird flocks to join and give """help""" and (in the case of Neggles), not so subtly beg for a piece of the compute pie>B-chama makes a long awaited reappearance>(You) are here
>>8233530Euge is putting together a team...
euge-chan the dumbcutie will win locals heart once more...
>>8233536It's more like the suicide squad and faggles is that really shitty joker with the face tats and grill Someone warn Euge of the clown
>>8233508Oh holy fuck, sexy scathach, fapping now
>>8233532Now define anime style.
there is only two ways this could go- euge ignores the troons and delivers naiv4 killer- euge takes every troon advice and model is worse than naiv1
>>8233541>style I likepure anime sovl>style I don't like/aco/
>>8233531Not quite, it has worse character knowledge than Animagine, because that one focused their dataset on FOTM and didn't hash anything. Agree on the rest, except maybe don't respond to trolls.
>>8233543i have a feeling we're gonna see a model EXACTLY like artiwaifu
>>8233538>Damagedwhat did neggles mean by this
My illustrious gens looks like shit and I don't know which artists I should use
Will this implode and end in tragedy or simply stagnate and go nowhere like the open model initiative?
>>8233551stagnate or underwhelming results. take your pick
>>8232428No it's not>>8232426I'll post it in like 6 hours when I get home
Believe in Euge. I'm sure Chenkin will tardwrangle the server if it gets bad
>>8233151>>8233371>>8233373>>8233391>>8233392Ok so I went ahead and tested it. If anyone else wants to try here's my process. Typed in a text editor so forgive my formatting.Step 1: Put the input image into an auto-tagger and then into anytest.Step 2: Copy the prompt over from the auto-tagger, remove anything you don't want in the lineart, and add the lora, lineart and monochrome tags. I had to crank the lora up to 1.5.Step 3: Generate the image with a model that's fairly compatible with the lora. I used autism confetti.Step 4: Clean up any stray lines in the output image using an image editor and plug the cleaned lineart back into anytest.Step 5: Switch to the model you want to use for the final image, add tags to create the scene you want and generate.With better ControlNet settings the anatomy would have been better but here's what I used for the quick and dirty test.Generating lineart: Weight: 0.75, Guidance Start: 0, Guidance End: 1, Control Mode: ControlMode.BALANCEDGenerating final image: Weight: 0.75, Guidance Start: 0, Guidance End: 0.25, Control Mode: ControlMode.BALANCEDIt may not be necessary to do the lineart steps, but removing all the details will let you set the control weight higher without getting unnecessary details or style influence in the output.Going from a couch to a bed may not matter much, but if you wanted to put the scene somewhere more creative it could save you some trouble.I cherrypicked a decent seed for the final images shown, but between anytest and posetest at the same settings I got better results with anytest overall.Pretty happy with how easy it was. A library of poses and settings could really speed things up, but it would take quite a bit of work.
so suddenly you all are rooting for euge after shitting on artiwaifu hmm?
>>8233541I have another question for you: Is Berserk anime?
>>8233558the ones who shit on euge would be ponytroons sir
>>8233550asura_(asurauser), nyantcha, cutesexyrobutts,wamudrawsYou know, all the great Japanese manga/anime artists.
>>8233558It was mostly ponysloppers shitting on him. I mean the model really wasn't great at sex but the effort is great and it looked nice if you used it correctly.
>>8233562not falling for this
>>8233558I was on his discord from the day it was made. It was comfy and innocent back then, filled with a floral fragrance. Now I can't recognize the place anymore
>>8233503you are small time.https://files.catbox.moe/4egew5.png(this isn't including any img2img outputs and is missing like 5 months of t2i that I have moved off to a different drive)
>>8233558I always liked Arti more than Pony
>>8233550shinapuu
Could someone share a brief outline for how you'd prompt things like this : https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4340532 I've always had trouble getting two distinct girls and assigning the right girl the right features especially if they're close where fixing it with inpaint feels impossible.
>>8233558our criticism inspired him to get better i was the pioneer who called out that bocchi slime gen on the previews
>>8233560I don't fucking care bro. I don't decide whether to like or hate something based on some made up bullshit category.
>>8233557I'll add this to my personal notes. Thanks.
>>8233558Artiwaifu is still bad there's no way around that. But Euge-chan was willing to learn from his downfalls, something no other local baker has the mental maturity to do. If he's not led astray by the troonbrigade, there is no reason not to root for him
>>8233567>god damn it my icecream is turning into cum again
>>8233569sir the prompt is right there
>>8233571Likewise. You can fuck right back to /aco/, idiot. You will fit right in.
>>8233422Do you have a catbox for any of your psg prompts?
>>8233551it's going nowhere. it's just a show of empty hopium from localpoors who desperately want their nai-tier model. as evidenced by every single local name from troonys to furrys hopping in. all it took was some literal whos going "we have cards!!" and every localshmuck fell for it without a second thought. and now they're assembling their le-epic avengers team just like OMI.
>>8233578>likewise>immediately contradicts xerselfDefine Anime.
>>8233569If they are named characters the model recognizes, don't prompt any features just their names. Of course that limits you to very simple compositions, so the other option is regional prompter / forge couple.
>>8233468>>8233470hmmm..so far all Im getting out of it is very underwhelming...will stick with snowpony for now
>>8233569That picture is rather well-tagged, grab some of the tags from thereWith something like local's forge couple it really shouldn't be any issues with separating character features, I even prompted breast envy pics on nai which doesnt have forge couple analogue.Something like asymmetrical docking, breast envy, breast conscious, looking at breasts,could work
>>8233584HAHAHAHA
>>8233582I don't give a fuck what you think. You are nothing.
Jordach did not bend he did not waver. He won't join the 'cord he will press on
>>8233581>they're assembling their le-epic avengers team just like OMI.I'm pretty sure most of them already outed themselves as unstable and bad team candidates in the first half hour of them joining the coord. Euge-chan and Lax-sama don't seem to be taking them too seriously, just considering what technical knowledge they are sharing and if they should give a shit about it
>tfw can't join the 'cord now without outing myselfshould have joined earlier...
>>8233589The only good he'd do there is tell off Neggles and even then it'd be negated by whatever schizo advice he tried to peddle
>>8233584make sure to actually include the nsfw tag when prompting for seggs
>>8233588Okay but why are you seething? Are you too dumb to define and explain your own hobby?
>>8233591skill issue, artiwaifu enjoyers keep winning
>>8233591b-chama??
>>8233591unless you are a local celeb nobody cares
>>8233596She already there bwo>>8233447
>>8233574I'm not sure there's much improvement left to be had within SDXL, between Pony's versatility and illu's style and character knowledge. He can do vpred for better color range and train a little longer, but even if it works out would that be enough to convince people to move over again? I feel like even if NAI were to leak at this point it wouldn't be a huge upgrade. We need Flux or another new arch to move forward.
>>8233460I can't join what did our queen say?
>Pony's versatility
>>8233557>>8233572No problem. But after a little more testing, just putting the original image into anytest with the prompt from the output image gave very similar results. Unless you want to create a particularly unusual scene, it may be faster to just play gacha or inpaint what you want.
>>8233600the truth many won't want to hear
>>8233605Increase your resolution to get of this artifacting on the lines.Also catbox
>>8233606https://aibooru.online/posts/88651
>>8233606artifactng is sovl
>>8233605box?
>>8233600>to move over again?Fucking idiots, I've been telling everyone for years that you must not build all your tooling around one model. This happened with sd1.5, this happened with pony, keeps happening with illu and this will seemingly happen with artiv3. You will suffer until you learn your mistake.
>>8233607>>8233609 (Me)woops
>>8233607Oh, that's you? Love your compositions.
>>8233600besides colors there isnt much left to milk out of SDXL. it was created with the same trash dataset as 1.5, and local models after that were all trained on a different form of trash dataset. you might get some visual improvements from flux, but local captioners are so pathetically useless that half the project would be spent figuring out how to train one properly.all to train flux which the furries tried and amounted to a lora-tier bake that can do a bland naked 1fur at most. the sad reality is that every local option between XL and flux is just shit, and it's not like those two are magic either
>>8233607>no workflow even when downloaded from pixiv
>>8233576The prompt is a sham! Asymmetrical docking breast press just gives normal docking even with symmetrical in negs. Height difference gets ignored, even with looking up/down as well. Starting to get some results without breast press though>>8233583Not necessarily those characters>>8233586Trying out NAI at the moment since I subbed for the new text gen (It's okay), will bookmark the couple thing for when my subscription expires and I start torturing the rtx3060 again. Is the move to tag for a base image and then inpaint the characteristics? Faces/expressions are usually fairly easy to inpaint but I don't know how to go about inpainting touching bodies especially if I want differences between them like arm positions
>>8233607please learn how to upscale wtf
>8233581>the moment the naishill realized his 25 dollars were no longer valuable
>>8233600Having a NAI3 tier model with lora would in fact be huge. No, Pony and Illu are not even close
thanks illustrious
Hope Illust 1.0 is good
>>8233633it is but it's never coming out :)
>>8233623I'm to busy cooming bwo>>8233616>>8233609>>8233606pic related will help
>>8233637>that image>huge_breastsWhy is it that people praise nai?Also thanks, all I wanted was the artist tags.
>>8233628(this is the same prompt on illustrious)
>>8233621
>>8233579https://files.catbox.moe/1x3t5z.png
>>8233643box?
>>8233645Artoria Lancer Alter is the best fate girl
euge and neggles just kissed in the private channel...
>>8233645Impressive, very nice. Now let's see the catbox, and can you get those midsections to be against each other? There's a lot about the original image I like so I want to learn how to make something similar in all aspects.
>>8233646thanks anon
>>8233565This. Since troons came that place became completely unusable. With the endless troon spam and how they are felating each other, trying to turn that server into another touhou shithole, it's impossible to discern any meaningful discussion anymore... Yet another thing they ruined...
>>8233647https://files.catbox.moe/6zstp4.png
>>8233569Blueorca is such a good artist, don't know how he manages to make things look simple yet detailed at the same time.
>>8233651Cease this bullying immediately. I will not stand for this.
>>8233651i just straight up took the tags from the danbooru post. >can you get those midsections to be against each other?once you start getting that specific you probably need to use controlnet
>>8233653We need to subtly bully them out in a way Euge comes to see them as the cess they are
uh oh euge is already taking advice from the sloppies
>>8233621>Asymmetrical docking breast press just gives normal docking even with symmetrical in negs. separating character features with non-standard outfits is the annoying part for naiasymmetrical docking, mother and daughter, breast conscious, eye contact, looking at another, breast envy, breast press, size difference,large breasts, small breastsworked somewhat reliably and I didn't even really really try herebut without forge couple or whatever there is now, it really is going to be a gacha no matter what, that's just how it is when you deal with simple tags only
>Neggles kept fucking up wdv because problems with his own code in his own trainer >Had to restart every other day >Now in Euge's coord he's jerking himself off saying Kohya can't code, can suck his balls and that only his code is any good My God, I hope, I pray that Euge sees this faggot for the worthless retard that he is.
>>8233653it's not THAT bad, but neggles is trying to co-opt it and turn it into wdvi. realistically this was just supposed to be another arti bake with vpred and some dataset adjustments, now it's turning into a massive bloated mess for no real reason. the problem is that everything gets wrung out until it's ideal. everyone talks about the 1000+ issues as if they all need to be solved before baking, regardless of how possible they are to even solve. this results in a list a mile long of 'things to do' and maybe a footnote on 'how to do them'. they just need to do the simple stuff and run a test bake on their hardware first. assuming the hardware is even real, it's setting itself up to being another wdv where nothing gets done as the cluster slips away.
>>8233664some autist needs to write a google doc showcasing how inept Neggles is so I can dump it in the chat, i'll swear i'll do it
>>8233660>>8233651i forgot the box. my badhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tiawi.png
>>8233665I hate n*****s
>>8233671Same
>>8233660Was there anything you skipped when copying the prompt? Or am I mistaken in thinking I should pick and choose what tags I think will be effective?>>8233663Nice attempt as well. Getting the feeling I need to get rid of some of the artists I've let sit in my prompt for days without change.
Autismmix v2 when..
>>8233677You'll get Autism 2 when you fix this damn door~!
Pls lord pls let Euge ignore Neggles for long enough that he fucks off Pls pls pls
>>82336532hucord is based though
>>8233679Fuck off nogen.
At least the troons and furries haven't made it into the inner sanctum yet
>>8232920>they'll find a way to sabotage it, just like they did emailing angel's CEO to destroy illustYou guys are fully capable of doing that yourself. You don't need any corpo help with that.
>>8233558Euge? Artiwaifu?
>>8233662at least it's good advice
>>8233685please read the thread sir
>>8232920Did kurumuz really do that shit?
>>8233683hello sdtana
>>8233224Ok so when are we getting the newer versions?
>>8233686>yea bro use resources from the nai leak>Yea bro use this shit upscaler>good advice
>>8233688We don't know who, or even if it really happened.
>>8233690we arent you can only cope with a model better than pony
Sorry for being a tard, but where do I get anytest?
>>8233691Don't use lanczos is good advice. As for suggesting others, there's no harm right? I assume he's going to run a test first and compare the results before committing to a specific one. Like any sensible person would.
>>8233694https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2Does someone have rights to update the OP template? With this, xinsir, posetest, illu and the illu lora rentry
>>8233696updating the template costs 7 highlight points
>>8233573Kinda violent, but still scathach and hot
>>8233557>>8233572I did even more testing, and I really think outside of creating a very specific scene all of those steps are unnecessary... it's not totally useless, right?!Here's a quicker method.Step 1: Run the input image through the remove background a1111 extension.Step 2: Use an image editor to mostly erase whatever the extension missed. I gave it a solid color background too. If your scene is really out there, use your amazing art skills.Step 3: Prompt whatever and use anytest.Picrel for my amazing art skills+remove background input, and the output with a little prompting. I used the same controlnet settings as before. Anytest is amazing. I'm still not sure if I need posetest at all, though.
Floox is the best
You think illu has attracted his gaze already? How long until he bakes the asuka lora?
>>8233701i unironically welcome him. ive been baking nonstop slop and it's good enough for me. illustrious needs more attention
>>8233699nice hand kek
>>8233701surprisingly few people have noticed illustriousnot even r*ddit has posted about it
>>8233698ryona is pure kino
>>8233704Well, it is just another anime model. The majority of genning still happens in realism and aco, and much of what's left can't tell the difference between Animagine and Tofu.
>>8233674>>Nice attempt as well. Getting the feeling I need to get rid of some of the artists I've let sit in my prompt for days without change.Yeah sometimes that can cause unexpected issues. I just slapped in the artist from the original pic and something random that came to mind in this case
>>8233696>CN-posetest_v2.safetensorsthis?
https://files.catbox.moe/l9nw6q.png
>>8233709Yes. I didn't realize it was in the same repo
>>8233713Thanks.
>>8233707This place is probably one of the most picky in the ai space and it's still full of sloppa, so yeah.
>>8233705she really needs to learn how to eat strawberry jam without getting it all over her face baka
>>8233710>>8233711Padded cell?
>>8233707>The majority of genning still happens in realism and aco,that's the most surprising thing about imagen for mealways thought that anime style is extremely mainstream now but in reality just aco alone completely overshadows itsingle incase lora on civit has almost as much downloads as all bakariso stuff together
>>8233719incase is anime thougheverbeit
>>8233716
about to train a pony lora for 10 repeats on every bowsette image from booru lol, 40k steps.Obviously massively overkill I am just interested in how much better if at all it ends up.
need an improved version of Euler SMEA Dy for local....
>>8233724alright get to work thenoh, you don't know how?shame.
>>8233726ok............
>>8233719When you think about it, anime is a niche art style of one little island (plus China and Korea?). /aco/ is literally the rest of the art world. And photorealism is actually competing with real porn.In my eastern european country anime is mainstream enough to be recognized by almost anyone as separate from western cartoons. But mostly known for kid's shows and/or cringe fanservice with underaged characters. Either way not something adult men spend their time with.
>>8233724this is kurumuz's greatest ace, worth more than the v3 weights
>>8233732for me it's inpaint model desusmea is nice but I don't even always use it
>>8233735Are Animagine-foocus and Flux not enough? Seem to work just as well for anything other than sex anatomy.
it's kind of amazing i can now look at nai gen be likewait, i can gen that
>>8233712Illustrious doesn't need a lora to do that!
>>8233736I haven't used local for a while but without the model style/character/sex knowledge I assume it's only useful to inpaint backgrounds and hands (do loras work?)it's not essential but it's fun and convenient, basically like a seed reroll for any part of the picture or easy edits.
Nothing local will be able to beat Pony for at least one year, mark my words.
>>8233743but 2girls1cup already did?
>>8233743it's already beaten doe
>>8233742>hands>animagine
>>8233746>slop crusty fotm underbaked gookmodelRUH... RMAO???
>>8233742It tries to match the style even without full knowledge of it. But yes it's mostly hands, objects, background pieces. Animagine has character knowledge in there somewhere, it's just undertrained. Too spotty to actually gen them, but with most of their body there as a hint it sometimes catches on.>>8233747Use Flux for any sfw anatomy.
>>8233750that's enough to dethrone sepiaspegma gpo slopmachine
It has been decreed by the King in Yellow, from his sepia throne, that none shall challenge his reign. The pretenders, who flock around false hope, shall soon have their aspirations crushed by the magnum opus that is V7.
>>8233756it's funny because pony is still the only model to do smegmat. knower
>>8233731>cringe fanservice with underaged charactersthey're not wrong thou, they just don't see the true light but seriously, drawn porn isn't the norm despite the artstyle and average normie would frown upon any porn>adult men spend their time withbut they know this is the core audience and that's why they seethe
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/yup, looks like it's shitpost o'clock
>>8233083catbox?
Retardo here, i have a questiondo you need to escape spaces on ComfyUI?like for example aru \(blue archive\)
>>8233766you're escaping brackets here, not spaceswhat you posted is the correct syntax
>>8233766yes
>>8233768Gracias negro
>>8233760>average normie would frown upon any pornthat's just reddit-tier hypocrisy
"Dark-skinned males? On my /hdg/?"It's more likely than you think
>>8233741this is just a side effect i noticed while testing, try to prompt a pov hand with the phone without it getting schizo (you can't)
>>8233775it's okay if they're cute like the one in the post above you
Doomping some shitty illustrious loras. Also taking requests.https://files.catbox.moe/reikjl.safetensors artist gud0c, dataset has watermarks/signatures removed so much better than native, no triggerhttps://files.catbox.moe/pqheti.safetensors artist landidzu, didn't remove watermarks/signatures so they're very common unfortunately, no triggerhttps://files.catbox.moe/ayxdgs.safetensors character madaraki fran, activation trigger is madaraki_franhttps://files.catbox.moe/0wpvfl.safetensors megaman legends style, really schizo, I might rebake it or create a new dataset, you gotta give it a fair bit of stuff to work with or it'll make some really abstract gens, honestly behaved better on ponyhttps://files.catbox.moe/kt737j.safetensors saya no uta, based on a dataset I got from here a while back, characters are tagged by their first names as well as different color themes from the games, red theme, guro, monsters, etchttps://files.catbox.moe/blfq16.safetensors character victoria vance from paw patrol, activation trigger is vvance, also helps to throw in her features, green hair, purple glasses, dataset was 3d images so you have to put 3d in negs and use an artist if you want her to look 2d
>>8233718a loose interpretation of tile wall
>>8233778based>Also taking requestswaterkuma
>>8233778Chronobox https://e-hentai.org/g/1275168/ede01de811/
>>8233778I request you post a sample gen along with each lora next time
>>8233780yes fucking please do waterkuma
>>8233778>paw patrolwhat in the goddamn....
>>8233399choking/strangling, face/breast punch is possible with prompting. quadruple amputee works surprisingly too, stuff like decapitation/accurate blood/cut marks doesnt work too well but I could be prompting like a retard
can someone share invite telegram link for these ai hentai stuffs?
>>8233778>saya no utabased
>>8233787it's on discord and you can currently not get invited unless if it's by someone in charge
Illustrious still can't do the absolute BBC perfection that NAI can do. The darkest of blacks and the thickest of cocks is only reserved for those paying for Opus and that is so frustrating to me. When will local be able to create images like that, how long will I have to wait? I can't afford NAI right now so I'm just not able to create any blacked images? What are my options realistically?
>>8233787Telegram requires a real phone number. Why would you ever use it to talk about porn.
>>8233790pony
>>8233790why do those falseflagging localfags dream about black dicks so much
>>8233631>>8233633catbox?
>>8233792I tried that and all the dicks come out looking more indian than black. I need animalistic jungle African and not just a tanned man
>>8233798there's a lora that copies nai bbc look on civit
>>8233774Box pls
>>8233798add bestiality tagnot memeing
new Illustrious finetuned droppedhttps://civitai.com/models/811067/illustrious-xl-smoothft
>>8233793How can you disown one of your brethren so cold-heartedly.Aren't BBCs every NAI user's Raison d'être?
>>8233805nobody makes blacked shit with nai, those are all falseflagger localfags
>>8233804>NAI3Like jesus christ
>>8233662>>8233691what the fuck type of bait is this, remacri is well regarded through hdg. if you've got issues then you might as well point them out and suggest good alternatives with some data to back it
>>8233812it's a ploy by BIG nmkdSiaxCX_200k
>>8233812consider that gan upscalers are several times slower than algorithmic
>>8233812remacri is okay as an inbetween step for hi-res fix. that's why it's well regardedas a final pass, however, it is dogshit >some data to back itgive me a booru post to upscale and ill show you the best model
4x_AnalogFrames_1.0_Gsisters, our response?
>>8233817i just use bilinear
>>8233815sure i'm downlet's go with this:https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/10227
Today I found out Illustrious does not HAVE to produce skribble lines
>>8233826denoise upscalers + style loras have given me some phenomenal results.
question about tiled diffusionis it a set number of tiles or just how many it needs based on your tile resolution? like if I img2img a 1024x1024 image with a tile res of 1024x1024 does it just do 1 tile or multiple tileshoping it's the latter because that may help a lot
>>8233834It is however many tiles are needed. But that depends on the overlap setting too, so might actually make four in your example I don't know. But if the tile res is higher than your image, yes it will only use a single one.
>>8233826>>8233832Even with cleanup/denoise, you can still see that it's rough at the core.Can you get outputs like this? https://files.catbox.moe/gp7fsf.png (random sfw nai gen from trooncord)
>>8233837Obligatory "why is it so blurry" post
>>8233812remacri will alter the colors and maybe add whatever subtle gan artifacts
Is the 0.1 gooknai on HF the same as the leak torrent?
>>8233836well dangnow im just wondering if there's a way to force it to divide it up into more tiles
>>8233834Why don't you just set tile resolution lower if you need more tiles?
This might be a dumb question, but if you're training at 1024 why not just throw away pics that are smaller. The booru still has more images than you can realistically train on.
>>8233804Is this more stable than the base version or only an attempted fix for the artifacts?
>>8233842i know that, but in that case we're still going to want an alternative upscaler that performs better than remacri. it would be a waste to get rid of most of pc-98 images when they have a very nice aesthetic
>>8233847angel did this but for smaller than 768 i think
>>8233846i could try i guess, i just thought that results start to get wonky if the resolutions are too far away from 1024x1024 or its rectangle constituents i'd of course be testing this instead of asking if i were home right now
>>8233847naiv3 trained at 512x512, this allows them to do bigger batches and allowed for better generalization of those batches.
>>8233847You do throw the smallest ones, but going >1024 for both sides you will be throwing some artists away fully I think.
>>8233841it's smea with 5 cfg and no img2img passmost of naifags seem to unironically enjoy this washed out look, but I don't like it
Nothing beats euler a for base gen + dpm++ sde for upscale.
>>8233853just use loss masks bro it's easy
>>8233778character lora for qingyi
>>8233858Are we talking about loras? I thought this is about full finetune, in which case loss masks are too much of a compute overhead probably.
>>8233844What are trying to achieve? The main purpose of tile is to allow high denoise upscales, where the model would break down due to high resolution. What would be the point of tiling up a 1024 image, or of using smaller tiles, when the model can work fine at that resolution?
>>8233778Wait I thought glorious Korean weeb model already can do everything and more? Why do you need Loras that only degrade the model's quality?
>>8233778>Also taking requestshttps://exhentai.org/?f_cats=1007&f_search=artist%3A%22tsuji+santa%24%22 tsuji santa
>>8233862It was, until this guy barged it
>>8233849maybe something with a smaller scale, 2x should be enough to just fit the min resolutions
>>8233863>The main purpose of tile is to allow high denoise upscalesNo it isn't? Are you confusing multidiffusion/tile scripts with tile controlnet?
>>8233821this one's rough, not many models are trained focused on PC-98 dithering, esp not ones attempting to recover high frequency detail, will get you results soon tho
>>8233862in terms of training i don't think that loss masks actually cost anything
>>8233872What do you think is the purpose then?
>>8233863that was just an example, the actual images i want to tile on are about 2800x2800i inpaint masked-only at like 0.4 denoise in small areas at a resolution of between 1024x1024 and 1536x1536, the area being smaller than these resolutions of course, and edit them in bit by bit, by layering them and erasing parts in a third party programif i could do a tiled upscale where the tiles are smaller than the target resolution then it would potentially allow me to speed the fuck out of this process
>>8233868vn art specifically
>>8233877To go upscale to higher res than your gpu allows you to? Usually.I mean, it depends on what you consider to be high denoise. With anything above 0.5 (which is what I consider to be high denoise) tile upscales go to shit.
>>8233804What is SPO?
>>8233885In that case I did mix them up, or rather treated them both as one thing as I use them together.
>>8233896https://arxiv.org/pdf/2406.04314supposedly fixes nonsense in foreground/backgrounddunno how effective on illust
https://litter.catbox.moe/wfejaw.pngi prefer doing stuff like this over upscaling when it comes to low res images in training data. generating masks is typically a lot faster. i just wish there was a way to actually dynamically place the image within a canvas during training instead of having to pre-process images myself>>8233896probably this: https://github.com/RockeyCoss/SPOthere's another one but idk if they released anything
>>8233904Ok, trying SPO version then.
>>8233848Here is a raw t2i -> i2i upscale with none of the denoising nonsense I've been doing to work around the artifacts, no LoRAs. It seems to both reduce artifacting/noise and add a bit of stability.
GookNai simply cannot. I am not being ironic.
>>8233917holy fuckkill yourself
>>8233904you're supposed to use negative loss here, amirite?
>>8233896Another flavor of DPO, aesthetic tuning basically. Training the model towards what normies think looks better.
>>8233917You are being ironic and you need to get a hobby that isn't "poorly attempting to troll people on an anonymous forum".
>>8233907>i just wish there was a way to actually dynamically place the image within a canvas during training instead of having to pre-process images myselfThat would be a couple dozen lines of python code.
>>8233911she's melting
>>8233930it's junglehumid and hot
>>8233821alright here, not really satisfied with the result but this is the best i can do for a single modelhttps://slow.pics/c/BSQtqwEy
what about other illustrious models?v1,v1.1,v2?I see them mentioned in the pdfhttps://huggingface.co/OnomaAIResearch/Illustrious-xl-early-release-v0/blob/main/Illustrious%20Technical%20Report.pdfBut no info where are they, or if they are going to be released...
>>8233067>bluvollder ewige slopbakerlet's see how long it'll take for local to sabotage itself yet again
>>8233926>every opinion i don't like is trollingStick your head back up your own ass and stay in your fecal echo chamber like all queers, please.
>>8233922>>8233926How have people in this general not learned to ignore birdanon?
>>8233936its cancelled
thank you angel
>>8233941birdanon? shoebill anon?
>>8233938>But call him an /aco/slopper and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I've been found out.”
>>8233928i think the issue would be using it alongside cached latents but i'm not really sure
>>8233930bwo it's a jungle it's like a gorillion degrees and high humidity. here's a sharper style.
>>8233917The only good poster left, unironically
>>8233938you are not even trying to hide that you're a shitposter with your purposefully inflammatory postsim sorry that people rejected your slop and now you have to act all ironic but at some point you just gotta let it go
catchad anon is based
>>8233955unironically (ironically)*>>8233961kys samefag
>noodletroon meltykekaroo
>catfag has been lashing out all week because he is the only poster left on pony now that everyone rightfully abandoned itkek what a fucking baby
>>8233964of course this schizo is cathagfaggot
>>8233917I need more of that delicious ass
>bad handsreroll>bad handsreroll>bad handsreroll>bad handsNonono, this time is gonna be different, reroll>bad handsI know I should just inpaint, but gambling is a bitch
>>8233957>poke fun at the latest fotm slop model everyone will have forgotten about in a month>"purposefully inflammatory posts">24/7 console wars about which discord tranny embezzled the most money so far>pedos coming out of their caves by the dozen>vaporware shilling>1713/267>"healthy on-topic discussion"
way to out yourself noodletranny ;)
>>8233878Sorry. I read it five times and still don't understand. Not even sure where to ask for a clarification.You have a huge image, okay. You inpaint a tiny piece of it at 1024 res, masked only. Why do you need to layer and erase anything? Shouldn't the edges be unchanged due to mask only, and so fit neatly into the original image?
>>8233969inpainting is also a gamble anon... there, i opened a door of possibilities
>>8233970it's just noodletroon seething, ignore
>he keeps samefaggingyou're fucking pathetic, failed miscarriage
>>8233933>>8233950Maybe it's just me, opposum sweatdrops look like skindrops
why haven't you killed yourself yet noodleabortion :?
>>8233941Why am I living rent-free in your head and why do you think I'd post such hideous /acoslop/ or anything other than Kemono Friends/Touhou?
what does this lora do?they posted it on civitai but in the description it doesn't say what it's for.https://civitai.com/models/811492?modelVersionId=907455
>>8233973Not really, If I pre-draw some ugly paint fingers and denoise at 0.4, I'm pretty much guaranteed a good result first try
>>8233970>muh aco style is not aco!! >muh pedos>muh pony is eternal>deliberately disgusting style and themes >deliberately antagonistic posts along with your slopfuck off
>>8233965what are you talking aboutthis faggot has been behaving exactly the same way for the last half a year
>8233982kys ;)
>>8233982>>muh aco style is not aco!!Define aco. Define anime.
same as groidspammer better to ignore this shitstain
>>8233917THE ONLY BASED POSTER LEFT ON THIS ENTIRE PLANET IM NOT JOKING BTW
too much effort and money has been sunk into shoehorning SDXL checkpoints to work decently in the first place
>>8233972the layering and erasing bit is pretty irrelevant, just an anecdote of what i do with my inpaintsbasically when i do these small area/medium res inpaints i'll take the resulting image, layer it underneath my main image in an art program and erase parts of the top image that the new one underneath does better, i do it like this because it will also typically introduce unwanted artifacts or malformities alongside the better bits, so i can just pick and choose what to amendit's autistic but it lets me make sharp images
>>8233917I need you to save our thread sir
>>8233985i, for one, do not care whether it's aco or no.anything that cathagfaggot, ayakon or miqofag posts is fucking hideous.
>>8233987As a self-proclaimed based poster I take offence to that
>>8233985>uh oh anime means animation in jap so every drawing is the anime!!!
>8233991keep seething noodletroon ;)
>>8233989Ah okay, and instead of inpainting bits and pieces you want to try running the whole image at once. But then why do you want tiles smaller than 1024?
>>8233917Gooknaikeks in shambles
>>8233977https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/6774560That seems to be inherent to his actual style, yeah.Here's a raw un-upscaled gen with fishnets since that was one of the example images on the model page. I think this little merge is a straight upgrade to the base model.
>>8233991miqofag has been improving lately though. and honestly I don't think he deserves the hate despite his catwife being somewhat grotesqueand while I think that cathag's posts are intentionally disgusting, there's some degree of polish and effort to them ayakon on the other hand is a genuine retard and his slop is offensively boring
>>8233981ah i forgot that local inpainting works differently
>>8233994>you may only post anime here>what exactly does that mean? there's a hundred different artstyles ranging from realistic to highly stylized>anime duh!
>>8233917Based
with RAUnet i frequently get pure noise on illustrious unless i dial the prompt into a sweet spot that i find by feel more than by estimate, i havent had this problem with any other SDXL model. regular kohya deep shrink works about as expected tho
>>8232426>>8233555These both were upscaled afterwards, here's the originalshttps://files.catbox.moe/2gqsyc.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0nx541.pngAfter initial generation I apply a stack of three "upscalers" at 1x resolution to counter the artifacts at least a little, it's all in the generation group, these two models >>8230524 and this one https://openmodeldb.info/models/1x-GainRESV3-Naturalimg2img along with txt2img, Ultimate SD Upscaler and inpainting included in the workflow
>>8233917How can someone be this based? There should be a limit, right?
Post gobbos, it's been too long
umm no sweaty ;)
>>8233917I am unironically cumming.
>>8234010that's a big gobbo
>>8233791well i joined lot of cosplay av chinese group and they shared paywalled stuffs, so wonder if ai generated is available too?
finetuned models gives me text again, shame
>>8233917The master of mindbreaking anonsI kneel
>>8234003>there's a hundred different artstyles ranging from realistic to highly stylizedthat's why i'm posting only the ones with overexaggerated noses and lips by some deviantart or hentai-foundry tranny
>>8233946Hello, you rang?
>>8234014I like bigger gobbos, but here's a small one, just for you
There's no /aco/ here. It's against the rules after all. Simple as that.
"smoking" working so well is really nice
>>8234019Yeah and others only post the ones where characters look like they hit the wall at 88 mph. Don't see me shitting and pissing myself about it.
>>8234019Hentai-foundry wouldn't be called that if it wasn't hentai
What's up, noodletroon? Lost all your argumentinos?
>>8233998then it would replicate my settings for my inpaints, i do it with masked-only enabled and select an area smaller than the resolution i'm generating (ie: area i've drawn to inpaint is roughly between 500-700 px both ways but is being generated higher to allow much cleaner inpaints)if i'm right, then instead of selecting an area i want to clarify, inpainting, selecting a new area, repeat a bunch of times, then for extra time generating these hypothetical tiles monsters i would get images that would be doing this to the whole canvasit wouldn't be good for a typical user's use-case but it would be perfect for me
>>8234003it's simple, you include (clioranko:1.3) at the top of the prompt or it's /aco/
noodlesissies not like this
>>8234017it's just that kawakami rokkaku is overtained on manga panels, neg out sound effects, speech bubble and weight them up, ez
Is there a way to filter every single post that has text even if it has an image?If the text isn't worth including within the image then it isn't worth seeing it at all.
>>8234035doesn't bother me that much, besides text is less gibberish compared to pony lol
>>8234036Yes
>>8233917Your gens are making this thread a little bit more tolerable, thank you for that sir
>>8233917Mmhmhhhh ahhh pumping
>8234036noodletranny can't accept reality
>>8234025genuine questionwhy do people that clearly hate anime artstyle and want to stray from it as far as possible just refuse to go to their own general?is attention from the "epic trolling angry weeb prudes" worth for you more than being around people that actually enjoy what you make?
>>8233935ouch, wasn't expecting it to do that badly... remacri performs significantly better but stuff like 1 pixel lines still get smoothed out still:https://files.catbox.moe/ybdf9g.jpg
>>8234043geniune questionwhy haven't you killed yourself?
oh wow he still samefags with 60 second intervalsgenuine illness
>>8234030Then instead of making the tiles smaller you could set the target resolution for the upscale higher. Like 5-6K, that way you get more tiles at 1024 each. Then scale it back down to merge with your image.
>>8234043is /aco/ in the room right now?
>>8234043acofags say that it's because their general is le dead
>oh no it's the SAMEFAGGERINOS!!!!kys
>>8234044oh, you wanted one that preserved dithering, lemme see what i can do then
>>8234048man maybe i am retardedmy PC usually has a heart attack when i try to gen at 3k+ before it switches to tiled so hopefully this works out
>>8234006im using reforgefor RAUnet when I use Euler SMEA Dy I sometimes get pure noise/flat color, doesnt seem to fail with ++ samplersI still like RAUnet outputs better when it does work and its definitely faster than KohyaIt worked so well on pony so its a shame its like this on a better model, oh well i can take the compromise
>>8234043Because it makes you faggots seethe. I hate anime but I hate you more.
>>8234050it wouldn't be dead if they would move there
catchad anon...
>1700 posts
>>8234000Soul vs Soulless
>>8234043Modern moeshit aimed at little girls and manchildren is not the entirety of anime.
>>8234052>>8234044actually wait, why would you even use a model if you wanted to upscale without removing dithering LOL, just use nearest neighbor?
>>8234055i dunno enough to say if it's a bug in RAUnet, or maybe it's because the model is underbaked and has trouble converging on anything if it's too far out of its comfort zone
Guys, do we have to do this every day? Yes, he's posting inflammatory text with every pic and using a borderline style on purpose, just don't bite the bait. No he's not the only one using pony, no I won't try to convince you to go back to it. Would be nice if you could stop bashing it for no reason, but I realize that's asking a lot.
Fucking pedos refusing to move to /b/ and making rules about what /aco/ is or not
>>8234057That's true but they'll keep coming here because it's active, and considering that jannies don't give a shit about aco troll posts (it doesn't affect advertisers which is all they care about) it's not gonna change.
>>8234053It does that automatically? I thought only the VAE switched on its own, to avoid an OOM error.
>>8234061yeah bro! i only like the real animus like cowboy bebop and akira only the real hentai artists like incase and fellatrix give me this vibe
>>8234066Wait, that's based.
Keep screeching about pedophiles and I will move /b/ here instead by repeatedly advertising this thread.
>>8234071so i should melt about so called pedos? aight
>>8234062thought it would be a good test to see how good models are at preserving details at scale (12M images), but yeah you're right, nearest performs leagues better in this casehttps://files.catbox.moe/n7g6eu.png
>>8234068it was a while ago on another installation of SD, i think it was just a plugin
illustrious is finally good now
>>8233010...can you drop a link, please?
>>8234068yeah you're correct
>>8234066seriously, we need to purge this place from all the "moe" pedoshit
>>8234059it's funny to me that it's 1800 posts and not image limit because somehow even though this is a technology that lets you create visually appealing images in like 5 seconds people are still too lazy to gen and just want to shitpost>>8234066pedophile website
How about pedos and /aco/ sloppers both leave and I get to enjoy this thread with the one other normal anon
>>8234079you missed the 2.1k post threads sir
>>8234073if your goal is to be faithful to the source, dithering & pixel art should only ever be touched by nearest neighbor. anyway the only models id recommend for generalized use over all of danbooru would be IllustrationJaNai_V1 or manhwa null
>>8234079BASED
wait, I thought upscaling supposed to fuck illustrious up?
Can we just ban all avatarfags? How many infest this fucking general at this point??
>>8234079it just takes one hemorrhoid and thread goes nuts.anyway va11-hall-a is basedglad to know illust can gen them
>>8234079>just spend "the 5 seconds" on fixing the shit just throw it to the toiletbut based gen
>>8234081I think it's just the loud minority. Gens itt are too varied to be done by only a few people.
>>8234086only with artists that got hit by the "dataset poisoned by lanzcos" bat
>>82340873 that are fucking tumors
>>8233913genuine inquiry, trying to recreate this sort of level of detail and shading outside of pony mixes (refiner used is a merge of reweik and animagine)
>>8234087Seems like an overreaction. Are you really angry with each one?
I feel like all gobbo bros tradically died
>>8234094that's cathag, miqo and IA/highlighter?
>>8234079>people are still too lazy to gen and just want to shitpostI gen a lot, just barely post any pics here. hdg right now might feel like shit, but it's still unironically better compared to how it was during April-August, it was actually unusable.
>>8234096We can keep goatgirlanon
>>8234098miqo died a week ago
>>8234097someone was talking about baking a noise lora for illustrious but they haven't posted it yet :(
>>8234086Pussy so cold lil bro suffering severe frostbite.
>>8234097I just find it hard to not slip into /aco/ style shortstack proportions or /d/ sized belly bulge when genning those. Get enough random vacations as is.
>>8234100the red-haired goat girl is just miqoanon again
this is the only real /h/ content moecucks btfo to /b/
by the way they just figured out bloodborne and ps4 "emulation" in general, it's much lighter than ps3 emulation
>>8233804>advokatNo thanks
>>8234007>inject latent noiseWhat does this do?
>>8234110it is stable yet? like solid and locked 60 FPS stable? I really want to play it
>>8234110I got hopeful for a moment and then remembered that stellar blade is ps5
>>8234112Like all quality snake oil, it does a bit of everything.
>>8233843yes
>>8233956Are they holding hands yet?
>>8234109>no incase
>>8233956>joycaptiongod damn it don't curse this project with the NLP white whale chasing memes. it just doesn't work well on SDXL, stick to fucking booru tags
>>8234098firsr two and ayakon
>>8234114it's not that perfect yet, it's very GPU heavy, think only 12gb+/4070 or equivalent can do locked 60so that filters out most of this general kekbut it's fully playable from start to finish, just some sound bugs and a few lighting bugs left
>>8234110okay but is it playable yet without having to download 10 different forks with 10 different fixes from 10 different devs with some being locked behind paywalls?
>>8234123miqo is mindbroken currently but i'm waiting for the black lipstick relapse
the true horror is when you realize as shitty as it is, this thread is still as good as it gets for ai /h/ posting and feedback
>>8234107just how much power does one man hold
>>8234131the 'cord is much better but your kind isnt allowed there, so
>>8234098this but instead noodletroon and IAschizo
>>8234126yes
>>8234064>>8234055Euler SMEA Dy seems to be fucked for some reason but DPM++ SDE CFG++ werks just fineHere's a raw messy RAUNet gen with it>think only 12gb+/4070 or equivalent can do locked 60so that filters out most of this general kekPerfect, my 4070TI super would do just fine I guess, may try to set up later
>>8234138Meant for >>8234125
>>8234138i frequently get noise with euler a cfg++ but it was my favorite for pony, guess it's time again for schizo config sorcery
>>8234097gobbo and yordle bros probably had a big overlap and mods suddenly decided to ban the latter, so
>>8234076which 2hu wud u fug?
>>8234131I don't think I have ever seen a good feedback here kek
>>8233071neggles wanted to purge loli from wdv instead of just having one of the other project members handle the dataset. do you really think xhe would be in a /b/ cunny server?
>>8234143This general is one large bucket of crabs.
>tfw this sub unironically got me into blacked
>>8234142nta but Parsee
>>8234138i did a bunch of testing with cfg++ stochastic but i still like normal stochastic
>>8234142not him but remilia or maybe reimu
>>8234148r*ddit is that way sir
>>8234148>subgo back
>>8234142the slampig, obviously
>>8234142>fuckReimu (on a compensated date)>marry Satori>killYoshika
>>8234137brb ripping bloodborne
>>8234138damn nice, i've never been able to get RAUNET to output anything really desirable on either this or autismmix
>>8234076I just asked and nobody responded sorry anon probably too busy gooning
what the heck is a RAUnet
>>8234158>07/06/2024I don't believe you.
>>8234158i'm glad seeing this fanbase ending like this
>>8234159Is when you RAIL the UNet using your big fat cluster
>>8233826>>8233585>>8231741creampie pls
>>8234158>that last message I don't want to join anymore
>>8234143>>8234147ok where do i go then, some more of my posts ITT are >>8232601, >>8233920
>>8234097does this count
>>8234166Male needs to be darker
any new comfyui snakeoil nodes come out lately
>>8234168i pipneg dark-skinned male by default
>>8234167kill yourself pedo
>>8234159Residual Attention Unet
>>8234162h-hot
>>8234048>spent a few mins waiting for it to gen, 4096x4096 so 16 tiles>i was in the inpaint tab with nothing selectedi love being disabled
Can illustrious do tailjobs?
>>8234167rise up to the jannies who punish yordlepostingit was a staple of these generals during 1.5
huber loss... i shouldn't have doubted you...
>>8233804while I understand that nai is good and all but this level of cargo cultism among some of the local users (and especially bakers which keep repeating that their newest failbake is literally local nai) is genuinely embarrassing. touhou ai server even has a channel dedicated to nai leak.
>>8234177general rule of thumb is "can nai do it?" -> answer is yes since same dataset with less pruning
>>8234181well it's inevitable that people will compare any model with the uncontested best anime finetune
>>8234182I don't know if Nai can do it tho.
hags?
>>8234177500 images is a little low for a concept, I know tonguejob doesn't work at 300. You can always just pony the composition then refine/img2img.
my wife chino looks kinda strange bros...
>>8234177no
>>8234185the tiny head with the budget Scooby-Doo comic stoner face is sending me otherwise excellent
>>8234183comparisons are fair and necessary but this level of obsession is just weird.
>>8234191people aren't comparing that model to nai3, they're comparing it to nai3likediffusion which was the previous model by this guy lol
>>8234187Does the grifter mix not work on illu or why haven't we seen a sudden influx of csr watermarked gens?
dpm++ 2s a cfg++ is an interesting sampler
>>8234189i want them to look like real women, not some moe slop
>>8234185human proportions?
>>8234195karin my beloved purpligger
ok, making progress by altering sampler/scheduler, this is beta scheduler dpm++ 3m sde cfg++
>>8234164
>>8234195the writing came out very clean
>>8234198they're for pedos
>>8234193oh yeah you're right. still cringe but a bit less cringe
>>8234181your bias is showingnai3 is absolutely fantastic, but it's also sorely lacking in many areas.having something powerful locally does more to counteract these weaknesses than overtake the strengths.
>>8234181It's kind of frustrating to be honest. We can even see it in this thread. I don't think Illustrious is horrible or anything and it is nice to see a new base model considering all the failures we have seen this year, but it does not change the fact that the model is underbaked, has a bunch of issues and we aren't even using the most recent version of it.There is also the very questionable future of it due to Korea's laws on erotica.
>>8231208Thread almost out. Culturally appropriate the "alternative thread" or bake a new one?
>>8234206you're both right to be quite desuhonest. the naiv3 dicksucking/cope that a localslopper with 2x 3/4090s can match them is cringe. but it's okay to be cringe, they just need to shut the fuck up about "this pony finetune will KILL NAI FOREVER". i'd much rather have the best models locally, but that's obviously not going to happen since half of the local community is fucking retarded and the other half is either busy getting screwed over or working on autism projects that don't produce a tangible result.at least illustrious is a huge step forward for local anime shit since we have a foundation that isn't overbaked we can build off of, it's a good base.
more blacked images please
>>8234212yeah yknow what the "mogging" is overdonemake a cool model by itself rather than by comparisonfeels like LLM benchmaxxing
Those blacked gens are nice. Posting the most demanded fetish is always good. Thank you.
>>8234215every time i look at /lmg/ I want to blow my fucking brains out. nobody there even uses the models they just circlejerk over numbers. at least in the dark age of /hdg/ people were trying to make something out of pony even if it was garbage.
>>8234180doesnt huber just make bad datasets more forgiving?
>>8234217i demand hags the most
>>8234180i looked up the math for the different loss schedules and i dont see a reason not to do L2 loss since IIRC it already incorporates the reasoning behind huber loss
>>8234220all datasets are bad, like beyond perfect 4k vector art with zero mistakes, every single piece of data has outlier flawssmoothing over em is a good thing
bros what artist mixes are you frequenting on illust?
>>8234224Unless the "flaw" was really supposed to be there
>>8234225playing a lot with loras so it varies heavilywas doing "(boa \(brianoa\), ryusei hashida:0.6), (opossummachine, wamudraws:0.3)" for a general cute/soft style"(wamudraws, fiz-rot:0.8), (opossommachine, healthyman:0.6)" for cunnysince i can't post dorothy lewds here I'm experimenting with adult woman fetishist mixes
>>8234229granted the """correct""" approach to outliers these days seems to be tag loss scaling or similar methods (register tokens?) to keep infrequent datapointsit's complicated right, how do you focus on just removing stuff you don't want? maybe masked loss? not denoising/redrawing at any rate.huber is just a quick bandaid that results in more wins than losses, it's a free lunch for local loras, not sure how it performs for finetunes.
Why aren't you making bank with AI art rpgmaker games, anon?https://store.steampowered.com/app/2415480/Dungeon_And_Darkness/?curator_clanid=38391122
>>8234223huber loss as implemented in sd-scripts still uses l2 for the later timesteps and transitions gradually or something. i'm not really sure. the prompt there is "girl on top, cowgirl" so it's seemingly doing something beneficial for the image composition over l2. i'm not sure what else would be making such a big difference there between the two iterations
>>8234238Im Lazy :(
>>8234238im too busy cooming
>>8234238I have zero desire to monetize this hobby because the second I do I know I will stop enjoying it.
>>8234239weird
>>8234053did some testing on >>8232378https://files.catbox.moe/qpzxec.png base imagehttps://files.catbox.moe/iqon9b.png 4096x4096 tiled 16 times at 1024x1024, denoise 0.41, 32 overlap, full prompt presenthttps://files.catbox.moe/ryjyj8.png denoise 0.42, 0 overlap, only female trigger present in promptbase image had colors edited so the img2img results naturally deviated back to sepiaresults obviously as a whole make the image worse but if you do the layering -> erasing thing i mentioned then this is a pretty immense time savei dont even know if this is going to help anyone maybe i'm the only one using this kind of work flow lol
>>8234244This is true. Making a few dozen pics for a game isn't as bad as pushing out a patreon set every few days. But you still gotta make the rest of the game.
>>8234201thank you bro.
>>8234249>img2img results naturally deviated back to sepiaJust run the image through colormatch with the original afterwards
>>8234249Do people normally gen that high? My screen is 1080 so I go like 50% higher to add detail, then scale back down.
progress, cant let it get in the way of some chores tho
>>8234257well ideally you'd do this step before doing any color slider adjusting but that works too>>8234258absolutely not, im a huge slopper but this is some nice tech for people who might do the same thing i do
why do you fags keep posting /aco/
>>8234249>desk cockjust stop tile upscaling it's never a good idea
>>8234270what are you gonna do about it, report it?
>>8234270meds
ok, maybe im permanently sold on illustrious over pony
>>8234270We should go to /aco/ and post /h/
>>8234279you will get banned for that
>>8234271just don't use that part then you foolthe idea is to layer it under your base image and selectively erase bits of the top layer that the bottom (tiled upscale) does better, the image as a whole has been ruined but you can scavenge for the nuggets it creates
>>8234284just maybe just upscale with something like animesharp or nomos variants instead of gambling the entire image?
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>>8233795https://litter.catbox.moe/ywjppy.png
>>8233911uoh, please more of her
>>8233344It's the worst quality that wouldn't get removed by the moderators of a site like Danbooru. That's actually a pretty high bar
>>8234456danbooru approvers deserve their very own holocaust
