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The Island Edition

Previous Thread: >>8231208

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge
Maintained fork (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/404802
https://civitai.com/models/288584
https://civitai.com/models/257749

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070/controlnetxl-cnxl | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscaler models: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
List of useful A1111 extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8234283
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kek
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>>8234282
the silly thing was that, for a time, /aco/-like (or stuff that resembled it or was based around it) stuff will also get you a ban here and in /e/ but it has been more lax as of late
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>>8234283
>>8234285
kill yourself
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>>8234290
Must have been a very long time ago. Before easyfluff at least.
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thread without highlights
>>8231264
>>8231264
>>8231264
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>>8234285
>>8234283
Keep it up, brother. Every genner on there is the hero this shit general needs, but not the one it deserves.
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>>8234288
It's not a kek, it's a bunch of whos. I want to see Jordach's cord!
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>>8234297
>abandoned thread
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highlights are such a powerful way to derail a thread with minimal effort, I at least applaud highlightanon as being a masterful troll.
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>>8234298
your ironic encouragement of schizos stopped being funny 50 threads ago, dumbass
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>>8234283
>>8234285
>didn't make it because my gen got janny'd
f in the chat for me
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>>8234288
who are these trannies and why are you posting them?
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That is the prompt to control the transparent/see-through level?
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>>8234283
>>8234285
3 is my record on /h/ i think i got 4 once on /e/
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>>8234293
there was a recent push where I heard lots of anons getting post deleted (even after days of them begin posted) that were, apparently, too-/aco/ for theses board. I even got post of kamen america deleted but things have gone back to normal since then.
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>>8234307
Some OMI people. Just thought that the idea of nai giving compute to comfy and the other troons, so they can make a better architecture for nai to use was kinda funny.
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>>8234305
and your 'kill yourself' has not been funny since forever
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>>8234313
am i supposed to know the new FOTM ai "groups"
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>>8234309
on pony you had to use correlated tags and negs to control degree of see-through

https://civitai.com/images/23718805
https://civitai.com/images/21673675
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>>8234316
what an incredibly retarded post
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>>8234283
>>8234285
kill yourself
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>>8234317
You should know this one foremost.
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What should I shitpost and falseflag about today, bros?
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>>8234320
kill yourself
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>>8234324
What group is called "Foremost"?
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>>8234325
breast sizes
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is it me
or my attitude
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>>8234323
what did you do with her tan?
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>>8234328
Oppai roris
Y/N?
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>>8234333
No, just bad character design. When was one of them ever best girl?
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>>8234283
>>8234285
Kill yourself
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>>8234318
But I'm using sd1.5
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>>8234283
>>8234285
>my Arti gen made it into the highlights
KEK Euge just can't stop winning
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>>8234337
Hestia was the only good girl in Danmachi, next season may just change that tho
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>>8234333
Y
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>>8234325
Falseflag as an image poster and shit on nogens
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>>8234350
This again? I know they called her oppai loli in the show but she's way too tall and old for that label.
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>>8234354
Average loli height is 140cm, Hestia is 140cm
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>>8234354
And if age was enough to disqualify a character from being a loli then most of the time Shinobu won't be a loli. Unless you mean that she'd qualify as a lolibaba instead, in which case yeah true
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This image uses the most popular artists everyone uses to make Illustrious (the 100% anime model) produce good images: asura (asurauser), cutesexyrobutts, thiccwithaq (some know her as nyantcha), and wamudraws. It is therefore 400% anime/hentai. If you don't like it, feel free to leave: >>>/aco/
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>>8234359
so based great post!!!!
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what keeps localfags from just roping themselves??
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>>8234361
how the fuck am I supposed to reupload something if I don't know what it was. use your words nigga.
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This link got expired. Can someone reupload it?
https://litter.catbox.moe/yti59r.png
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>>8234362
You want to expand on that a bit?
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>>8234362
Illustrious leak.
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>>8234366
He >>8234325 didn't find anything new and came back to the old routine
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There anything I should select or change in the settings? or even outside of SD?

Had to reinstal windows and lost all of the SD stuff
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>>8234354
kinda like nagatoro with big breasts?
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>>8234355
140 is normal japanese schoolgirl height, lolis would be 120 and down.
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>>8234359
The thread is blessed
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>>8234359
could you please generate one where she does a wet fart on a black guy's dick? please i beg you
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>>8234374
yeah
no one's actually done that though, she's always aged up when she has tits

like this
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/273421
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>>8234375
Kud from Little Busters is 145, Megumin is 148cm, Nahida is 138cm, Illya is 133cm
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illustrious can do (borderline) /aco/ that's actually visually appealing out of the box. there is no need to continue coping with the textureless plastic look.
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>>8234381
damn the penis definitely ruins it!
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>>8234384
JLullaby lora doko?
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>>8234382
heights based on nothing
you can only estimate the height of the character with the full body image and arbitrary set head dimensions
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>>8234379
Do it yourself bro you have the power of AI and can do anything, like me.
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>>8234388
Really grasping at straws huh
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>>8234391
i cant have no way to prompt stable diffusion i have been coming to those threads for posts you are one of my favorite posters here dont listen to haters. i was anxious to ask before but was hoping you could do where she farts on his balck dick please?
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>>8234283
>>8234285
even though I didn't make it in, thank you
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Why does he waste so much time generating purposefully shitty looking images and posting them here? What's the end goal?
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>>8234283
>>8234285
killing /e/ really wasn't enough?
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>>8234384
Your response to >>8234398?
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>>8234402
i think he's talking about 8234359
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>>8234382
>>8234388
I want to retract my original statement about her height, because you're right that's not really it. A lolifag would be able to explain better why they're not interested in her the same way as illya or shuten, even if she were to be flat. She doesn't look or act like a child, I suppose. I would define her as shortstack instead, despite the lack of ass.
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>>8234405
Correct but that is who you are responding to.
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>>8234398
>What's the end goal?
loool trolld umad xd
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why is the blue catgirl poster so fucking angry? it's like seeing the "i'm not owned" tweet personified.
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>>8234393
what do you mean? i'm nta you were responding to
i'm just stating the fact that those heights and ages are pulled from the ass
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Someone just can't keep seething huh ;))
>>8234359
Based as always, don't mind the trolls
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>>8234409
thats what /aco/ does to you
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>>8234403
nice style
box?
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>>8234359
nice style
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Based :)
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I know =)
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/aco/cathag guy is probably the only effortgenner we have left, make of that what you will
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>>8234359
The last good effortposter left
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>>8234422
>>8234423
OH NO YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO WAIT 60 SECONDS BEFORE SAMEFAGGING
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>>8234422
I put effort into shitting up the general, I just don't post images anymore.
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>>8234359
so you take scat/toilet play requests?
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>>8234425
i also believe that everybody who disagrees with me must be the same person
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how pedochuddies will ever recover =)))
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>>8234431
but cathag is a pedo
he loves doing cute boys
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Real highlighterinos doko?
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>>8234432
nuh uh mister pedoman
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>>8234433
go for it
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it seems like it wasn't huber loss after all, these are pretty close to 1:1 settings. afaik that pretty much only leaves multires noise discount
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I'm a cute little hag nya ^_^
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>>8234437
i mean multires noise discount is a pretty important setting, it's how strong the effect is as a percentage
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>>8234432
>cathag is a pedo
the guy who is constantly posting plump big tiddie cat girls? What did I miss?
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>>8234434
I would believe he is not a pedo but honestly after seeing how much effort he puts in the boys face and expression (when the gen doesn't have a nigger or a male out of frame) I have no doubt he is both bi and pedo
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>>8234443
i was under the impression that it would primarily effect color
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>>8234444
He loves little boys
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>>8234445
sshags are just the smokescreen for gay pedophiles
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>>8234417
>>>/e/2904337
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>>8234447
it does but the noise it's talking about is the latent noise which is what makes it the image from in the first place. anything that fucks with the latent CAN change compositions and quite drastically
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>>8234448
Do the clerics with the original crosses and anime proportions and you will be on to something.
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Pedophiles are a vile plague.
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>>8234449
>he
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>>8233699
Drills faggot here. Good show, anon. This is my result after following your method.

And this is the image I used as source material, lmao.

https://files.catbox.moe/cp9vub.png
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>>8234459
hrt doesn't make him a woman
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No way I'm blessing this general by posting my wife, ew.
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>being both gay and pedo
holy shit
if pedos deserves the rope, then you being both gay and pedo makes you deserve your genitals getting crushed by a heavy stone, then amputate all of your 4 limbs and leave you dying of pain and bleed just like the double piece of shit you are
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His lame trolling was ignored for several threads and I believe he'd eventually get bored and fuck off if you kept it this way.
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>>8234460
aiiiieeee noooo using controlnet is cheating
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>>8234465
how long you are here?
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>>8234466
Now artists can't say I steal anything when I also troglodyte-level paint my images myself.
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>>8234464
no please god no save me from this torture
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>>8234463
same
but you aren't cathag, are you?
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>>8234468
For 1.5 years.
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>>8234472
No, everyone loves me.
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>>8234474
post gen or fake news or whatever
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>>8234453
that makes sense, i guess i just haven't really noticed it having an effect like that before now. i wonder if that's because i've been using immiscible noise
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>>8234473
then how do you missed that he's doing his inflammatory aco spam last six months
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>>8234476
doubling up on noise changing things is usually unwise
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>>8234477
*last 2 years with different tactics
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>>8234477
He was never consistently ignored like that before and felt like he was getting a bit desperate.
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>>8234480
meds
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i cant hold this back inside my mind anymore
b- "chama" is just a fucking golddigger whore who only searchs up for promising finetunes and/or projects, as long as it is meant for local, she is a fucking parasite and i'm tired of pretending shes not
fuck you idiotic bitch
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>>8234482
take a deep breath, jordach. i'm sure you'll get over her eventually
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>>8234475
it's birdanon
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>>8234484
brooo wtf is this
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catanon is based and savior of the general. stop projecting chuddies =))))))))))
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>>8234478
afaik immiscible noise doesn't actually mess with the noise itself
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>>8234484
but anyway yeah nice gen
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>>8234488
heat
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>>8234488
normal ai masonry
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>>8234450
What if the shotas are faceless male?
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>>8234492
>>8234493
yeah just joking, nice gen
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>>8234451
based thanks
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>>8234484
illu really has trouble making bent bodies
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>>8234484
painfull image :D
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have we figured the blora layers of illustrious yet?
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>>8234508
Ermac wins
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>>8234484
how much inpainting did this involve
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What is it you don't like about my a r t?
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>>8234488
it's over brick-bros..
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>>8234518
It's just jealous nogens
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>>8234522
No joke, how do you even compensate for this? We had the same issue with other checkpoints. I even tried to use stock photos and I got the same result with melted bricks.
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>>8234522
stuccobros our response?

>>8234529
controlnet
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>>8234530
Yes, that's what I used.
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Illustrious is actually nuts
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>>8234527
Beautiful gen, nice colors.
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>>8234535
Proofs??
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Well, I contributed my grain of knowledge to Euge. Seems he will now prune all komas and manga panels, just as NAI did.
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>>8234542
would be better if someone actually took the effort to turn good panels into worthwhile training material but that's the second best thing
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>>8234527
is she downs syndrome?
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>>8234536
Testing this LoRA, looks pretty solid!
https://civitai.com/models/330218/sdxl-artist-style-yoneyama-mai
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>>8234543
I will only take effort for Euge's dataset when he produces a model of at least illustrious' quality. After that sure, for the next version I'll personally curate whatever the fuck he wants while sucking his dick too.
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Tell me your most liked artist mixes
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>>8234553
>just reveal your patreon secret sauces for free bro
Nah
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>>8234553
yukimaru, (mikoyan:0.5), (kakure eria:0.8), (houtengeki:0.4), (flat color:0.7),
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>>8234542
right after i convinced him to include all of fishine's doujins...
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>>8234543
I know, but that would take an insane amount of time anyways. A task only for a dataset curator team, or a couple of NEETs with a fucked up sleep schedule.
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euge may have a tiny weenie but his compute is humongous
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>>8234554
He's asking for loli mixes obviously, you can't post those to patreon.
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>>8234533
holy shit it knows doodle sensei? box?
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>>8234542
based, thanks for your service
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>>8234566
it's pony
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>>8234553
[nyantchu], NT00, terasu mc, fellatrix, afrobull, (dobson:1.2), kodyboy555,
Don't spread it too far I'm gonna make the big bucks with this
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>>8234566
NTA but it knows basically anything that's tagged on danbooru, and if you can't get something just raise the weight like NAI. It's 20 epochs on a 7.5m image dataset, lots of meat in there.
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>>8234571
Sir, that's a pony gen
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>>8234571
retard shill lmao
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>>8234574
it's free
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>>8234555
how does it look, doc?
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>>8234576
but only this epoch ;)
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>>8234582
it's still free
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Only free if your time is worthless ;)
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>>8234566
I actually genned this a while ago to test it, lol
https://files.catbox.moe/9714nu.png
it seems to be inconsistent whether or not it generates as the full head, or a piece of paper with the doodle on it
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Is illustrious paid to shill here? I tried generating a few images but they all came out with broken anatomy and looking like shit? Are these just NAI shills trying to make local look bad because they are still mad about Pont's superiority so they are trying to split the local base and cause infighting amongst us?

I can't imagine anyone legitimately using this model, it seems extremely underbaked and every image comes out fried as shit
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>>8234586
if you're spending time console warring over an AI powered coom generator on a mongolian basket weaving forum i think your time might actually be more worthless than the people using it to make pretty pictures
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>>8234546
probably a clannad lora in the mix
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>>8234590
yes it's a clear astroturfing attempt by the gooknai shills to build up hype for when they start charging for the newest epochs
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>>8234590
Elaborate bait, I'll give it a (You).
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>>8234590
I noticed this too, it's very transparent yet hardly anyone is bringing this up without getting their post deleted
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Is there a way to get testicle sucking more consistently on nai?
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>>8234566
https://files.catbox.moe/fpn3dy.png
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I get paid by the Mossad to shill Gook.
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>>8234590
You have to lower the CFG to make the pictures look not shit, which ruins Illustrious for my purposes since I want to do things besides "1girl, standing" and "1girl, 1boy, sex"
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>>8234600
>asura (asurauser)
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>>8234590
took some adjustment to gen settings for me
the 0.1 model is definitely underbaked, SDE samplers correct for that a bit
im pleased enough with this as a base model that i anticipate finetunes and loras to clearly elevate it above pony for all /h/ purposes
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Pony genners, check your pagers.
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>>8234590
>Pony's superiority
Try better next time shitposter-kun. Have a pity (you)
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>>8234601
>which ruins Illustrious for my purposes since I want to do things besides "1girl, standing" and "1girl, 1boy, sex"
such as?
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>>8234590
catbox one of your gens and we can help you :)
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>>8234608
2boys, sex
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>>8234608
gangbang, very dark skin, 1girl, 5boyd, excessive smegma, gpo
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>>8234608
2boys, otoko no ko, sex
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>>8234599
thanks
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NAI is deploying v4?
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https://files.catbox.moe/23nht4.png
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>>8234598
no
model is too overfit to do that
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>>8234616
i wish i was a fat black dude...
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>>8234577
Looks good! You can try reducing houtengeki, since that tag is causing most of the scribble style
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>>8234615
id be more interested in them exposing a mechanism for lora training and sharing, and if they kept the interface/API more up to date with schizo of the art samplers and other gen settings/hacks
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>>8234460
Very nice. Looking between the images, I noticed the poles are almost identical in angle. So I took your reference image, ran through the process, and then rotated the image in the editor to make the pole vertical. Left side of picrel is before rotation,right side is after. A small effort for a pretty noticeable improvement, no?
Did you have a nice pole come out right away? I'm using pony, and as you can see my poles came out weird. Also Miku tends to float off the ground. I might have to switch to Illustrious right away after all.
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>>8234619
Can illu do that though? I'd bet it's not about overfit but about trashy danbooru tagging.
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>>8234538
It's getting characters down really well without any loras.
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>>8234625
long pussy is long
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>>8234625
holy shit AOM my beloved
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>>8234626
well obviously, that's something every model besides naiv1 and pony can do
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>>8234627
Calling that thing pussy is about the same as calling neggles female...
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>>8234635
oof
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>8234590
weakest bait of all time
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and yet you bit, curious!
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>>8234460
>>8234623
Hot Miku by the way.
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>>8234631
>AOM
I used SilvermoonMix01XL
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>>8234643
cute tummy
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>>8234608
1girl, solo, flexible, female footjob, female masturbation, denki anma
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ryonabros, we are so fucking back.
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>>8234650
Box the cat ryonabro
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>>8234634
Obscure characters
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>>8234600
The Holy Cross...
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>>8234650
why is it so fried?
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>>8234650
a non-fried m-da s-tarou tag? very impressive
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>>8234652
doesn't recognize any of my <100 tags danbooru characters even with help, unlike nai3
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love me some laserflip, weirdly erotic in a kind of gross way
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>>8234655
if that's fried, then everyone else is melted to slag
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
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>>8234650
https://files.catbox.moe/j3e714.png

>>8234655
>>8234657
the duality of man
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>>8234608
1boy, 1girl, hetero, hands only, close-up, holding hands, wedding ring
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>>8234661
to clarify: at least as far as m-da s-tarou tags go
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>>8234664
i remember a previous thread had a decent handholding illustrious gen
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>>8234655
it's gooknai
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>>
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stop posting blacked
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post only blacked
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>>8234672
schizo bwo? check your eyes
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>>8234661
it's not very accurate on nai but doesn't seem too melted to me without smea
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>>8234637
strong enough to make you reply
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>>
you now remember anyv3
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>>8234681
it was a better time..
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>>8234681
fuck this shit why would you make me remember how i thought vae is similar to hypernetwork
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Ok, gooknai >>> pony, nai, flux and whatever else there is
https://litter.catbox.moe/3lx14z.png
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>>8234681
good times
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>>8234623
The pole for sure. I did draw a straight line at the bottom to give the AI an idea of what I wanted. But the thing that was more chaotic were her legs. Had to go through several edits of the source image so she could look like she was dancing and not having a communion with some entities from beyond.
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>>8234671
Nice. Cat box for bottom images?
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>>8234686
Based
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>Try hand at an instant loss comic.
>Immediately feel bad for the girl afterwards.

Why the hell am I like this...
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a productive discussion just happened on euge's discord
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>>8234695
add happy, smile to the second image, easy

also hot gen
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>>8234696
ain't no way
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>>8234692
its dead rn
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>>8234696
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>>8234672
Unless it's underage touhou girls.
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I don't understand why everyone likes wamudraws
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>>8234701
That's not Jonathan wtf
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>>8234705
This but opossumachine.
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>>8234708
>>8234705
Both are based
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>>8234705
but I do like tianlong ping pong
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>>8234705
I do not understand why everyone uses 5-6 artists mixed at 0.6 where it starts to look like generic slop
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>>8234712
So artists do not complain about whose style you are "stealing" from.

Frankly, it is closer to soulkiller, in my opinion.
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>>8234712
>where it starts to look like generic slop
No it doesn't? Using 1 or 2 artists is boring.
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>>8234692
same prompt
https://files.catbox.moe/s62pl7.png
https://files.catbox.moe/s62pl7.png
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>>8234712
t. promptlet
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>>8234705
Superior western artist that enables you to gen proper hentai on Illustrious.
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>>8234702
holy shit why is Euge so cute
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>>8234723
go suck his micropenis then you idiotic faggot
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>>8234715
Thanks
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>>8234726
seethe, femcel
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>>8234723
it's true
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>>8234705
I like his style by itself, not in a mix. Weird to see lolifags use him so much, he draws adult women too, as half-chibis.
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>>8234726
nta but lately i do like some trap /y/ doujins and imagining that's Euge-chan
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>NAI under maintenance
>shitposting within the thread increases by 500%
hmmm
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>>8234740
straightest /hdg/ poster
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>>8234726
why so angry kurumuz, 512 h100s got you shook?
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>>8234608
fish, 1girl, 1animal, object insertion, female masturbation, on boat, looking at viewer, v
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>>8234744
kurumuz status?
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>>8234744
>>8234748
Don't jinx it
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isn't anyone doing a lora to fix the pussies in Illustrious?
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>>8234753
sir this board is for heterosexual men only, which is why we got a lora for better penises day 1
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>>8234741
it's working doe
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>>8234753
Best way to fix them is adding innie pussy, cleft of venus, fat mons your positive prompts
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>>8234760
Anything for girls older than 10?
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>>8234763
try "roasted beef"
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>>8234763
meat flaps, roasted beef, ugly, fat, excessive pubic hair
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>>8234695
catbox for both?
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>>8234763
go ask reddit idiot
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Pedos are so funny
Any pussy that isn't just | is disgusting to them when in reality no pussy looks like that
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>>8234763
clitoris usually does it, nsfw and uncensored in positive, censored in negatiev
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What artist wildcard are you guys using? I only have the sanae one and it's kinda short
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>>8234773
everyone knows 3dpd are ugly retard you aren't making some wild discovery
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>>8234773
>when in reality no pussy looks like that
and?
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>>8234753
Anatomy is in general all over the place, but I don't seem to have exceptional problems with pussies specifically. They are just... okay?
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>>8234776
>>8234777
have sex fucking incels
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>>8234773
>in reality no woman looks like anime girl
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>>8234743
wholesome
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>>8234782
dilate troon
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Wait I thought all real life women have a head with the same width as their upper body
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>>8234773
>reality
nigga you're on the cartoon porn board go to /hc/ if you want to see real pussy. innies are cute and pristine, even on adult women
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at some point during early 20s 4chan completely lost the ability to not respond to bait
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>>8234784
>>8234790
>doesn't want realism
>complains any style that isn't mixed with realism is /aco/
retards
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>>8234702
>no b-chama to tuck him in
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>>8234793
retard
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>>8234792
>early 20s
holy newfag
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>>8234797
i've been here since trump election retard
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>>8234773
flaps are ugly
vaginas must look like a tiny butt
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>>8234781
some styles make the pussy and anus look strange it would be interesting to have a lora that fits all styles and makes them more detailed!
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>>8234795
check any of these new illustrious mixes and see they all use the realism tag you fucking dumbass
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>>8234798
alright, you made me reply
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>>8234705
I just throw it in because I like how he renders
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>>8234793
i like how this post is retarded and at the same time true in some very roundabout way
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Hmm.. training on Illustrious isn’t fitting well enough.
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>>8234794
You couldn't be more wrong
https://files.catbox.moe/tbbwmm.png
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>>8234811
LMAO
this was a jordach ntr arc all along
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>>8234810
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>>8234811
>https://files.catbox.moe/tbbwmm.png
CHAT is this REAL
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>>8234696
After joining that discord, I have close to zero hope we will get anything out of this that's better than illustrious.
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>>8234811
kek this was too perfect
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>>8234805
I get what he's talking about at least. Usually /aco/ is on the realism end with detailed faces. But this time the complaints were about simplified anatomy and thick outlines, which goes in the other way.

Not that either is a foolproof indicator of style.
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>>8234691
Yeah, I had much better results once I moved the pole base and her feet down to the bottom of the reference image. The pole is always off center from the base though, On my first seed I got what looks like a peeled banana between her legs, but I only had to reroll once. Unfortunately, it's a lot easier to inpaint objects than anatomy.
If you would like, you can try this lineart version I made as an input. Maybe it will pick up anatomy better? And in line with my original thoughts, you should be able to set the control weight/ending step higher if necessary.
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You ever start a huge effort-gen project only to realize halfway through that you can't do it justice?
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>>8234822
Maybe justice is the effort we find along the way...
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>>8234817
A troon, a furry and a south american walk into a bar...
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Cats were considered sacred animals in ancient Egypt due to their association with the goddess Bastet (or Bast), who was the goddess of home, fertility, and domesticity, as well as protector of women and children.
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>>8234822
I don't even know if I've done a huge effort gen what does that entail
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>>8234825
yeah...
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>>8234828
so bast!!!
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>>8234829
2 days per gen
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>>8234828
based
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illustrious unironically saved /hdg/. this is the best these threads have been since the naiv1 leaks even in spite of the shitposting. I'm so happy, bros...
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>>8234836
hi anon from a parallel universe
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>>8234811
>https://files.catbox.moe/tbbwmm.png
Awww, they're so cute!!!
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jordach are
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>>8234828
I get the feeling Bast is not pleased with the semen quality.
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>>8234828
how come none of the gooknai shills put even 1% as much effort into their gens?
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>>8234843
pony users are just built different
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>>8234841
I'm not pleased with her feet quality, and you expect me to cum quality semen??
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>>8234820
under /aco/ goes both sudo realism and thick lineart highly stylized shit as this is just vague umbrella term
i interpret that it is about anime illustration style being actually fairly realistic on its own rights despite being stylized one particular way
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Has anyone here actually trained a diffusion model from scratch?
All I hear is finetune this and finetune that. 16ch VAE should be easily testable on a small toy dataset before using it on a real dataset. You don't even need to train the 16ch VAE, since you can use this https://huggingface.co/ostris/vae-kl-f8-d16
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>>8234849
But then you get stuff like https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/868471
Which is not realistic but highly stylized with a thick outline.
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>>8234821
Believe me, it took me a few corrections and redraws to get it to look how I wanted. This was my lineart before I started the coloring. I moved her limbs around to make Miku look more dynamic. Yours however is far closer to the original. I will run some tests after I am done with work.
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>>8234847
It's cats feet, anon.
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>>8234855
>those outlines
/aco/ shit no different than asuragarbage
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>>8234855
anon, this chain wasn't about "what's aco and anime" but about gooknai pussies
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JOIN THE NAVY WE DONT HAVE FAGGOTS HERE ONLY HETEROSEX
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>>8234849
>under /aco/ goes both sudo realism and thick lineart highly stylized shit as this is just vague umbrella term
The same applies to anime. Wow who woulda thoughted cartoons can be drawn in many ways no matter what country they are from.
Ghibli stuff is literally Disney without anthropomorphic animals but nobody would call it /co/.
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>>8234862
why is it so fried?
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>>8234852
no.
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>>8234863
Ghibli is /aco/, have you seen the noses and lips he puts on every female character?
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>>8234852
You'd be first.
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>>8234864
to appease the black man
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>>8234811
Euge really won the hearts of everyone
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>>8234832
what's the process like over those 2 days wow
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Why is it so Illustrious?
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>>8234871
Alright, fine. I'll train a base model with the 16ch VAE, any dataset requests?
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>>8234863
you can name examples of border cases like this and pretend you don't see the difference between incase and ciloranko
and no, ff or doa isn't anime style because the japs did it
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>>8234882
Do you really want to bake on someone else's slop dataset?
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This is a happy accident. Most of the time "mating press" caused abominations in Illustrious.
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>>8234876
fighting against pony with inpainting, controlnet and a modified latent
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Many men wish death upon Astra
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https://files.catbox.moe/sk8m66.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dvy7ah.png
https://files.catbox.moe/5i1vpn.png
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>>8234887
what kind of modifications do you make to latents? seems like dark sorcerery territory
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>>8234858
Ah, so you did the lineart method? I thought you used the 3-step method. There is no point in testing mine since you already used lineart.
However, if you made that input image with illustrious that might have been part of the difficulty. I think one merit the lineart method has is that you can easily make a clean input image using pony and then transfer it to other models. I'm assuming from lineart to the final version it went smoothly?
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>>8234892
it's just making it the color you want your gen to be (like, dark blue for a night scene), and sending it to the sampler. If it's sde or ancestral u have to lower the denoise to something like 0.9-0.65 tho
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>>8234891
cute
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>>8234891
can you make her younger and with a pacifier?
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>>8234893
Yes. It only took a couple of tries.
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>>8234897
Eww! That's too much!
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>>8234897
bro? i'm not a pedophile....
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>>8234897
that's just a 16 year old asian girl, tho
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>>8234891
your girls are getting smaller every time, mister notalolicon kek
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>>8234891
based
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>>8234891
Metadata?
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>>8234885
It would be a toy model to try out some of the methods everyone is always advocating for here, as long as it has good color variation it doesn't really matter what it is.
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>>8234902
speaking of p* the lora “uohh_youngest_nostyle” works perfectly in Illustrious!
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>>8234907
https://files.catbox.moe/d2zwp6.png
and the other two are a composite with
https://files.catbox.moe/m671l3.png as the base
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>>8234695
>>8234697
No more tears, only smiles.
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>>8234910
thanks
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how to generate
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>>8234909
Let's stop beating around the bush and see if kereno, teruki kuma, dorontabi and blue borscht works on it. That will settle the pedophile model question once and for all.
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>>8234917
it can do borscht so its confirmed its trained on danbooru gold content
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>>8234891
Why did you betray pony, man? You could control however you wanted, any style was achievable with a lora. There wasn't a single reason to switch.
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>>8234917
heh... i tried kereno, dorontabi, and blue borscht since day one they all work
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>>8234887
I've done a couple hours, but days? At some point the whole thing just dies to feature creep, or gets stuck with a weird style that can't be changed anymore.
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So, is illustrious text encoder sane? By how much should I train it for when training loras? Half of UNet? one tenth of UNet?
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>>8234925
according to angel you shouldn't train it at all
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>>8234917
Well, it certainly knows who kereno is.

https://files.catbox.moe/ewqx0d.png
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>>8234917
it works, but it's almost nothing like their style, I don't think danbooru had much content from this type of artist.
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>>8234931
PLEASE DO HER GETTING BLACKED
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>>8234924
it's mostly cuz I have a not so fast gpu + not many hours to gen daily + extremely picky + comfyui workflow syndrome
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>>8234908
In that case I advocate for training on this cunnoisseur's artists >>8234917
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>>8234933
Do it yourself.
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>>8234924
That dude is one sturdy motherfucker if he can get slammed into a wall and still resist her.
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>Illustrious can't do sneezing
it's over
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>>8234936
fuck off
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>>8234931
>illukeks will say this looks good and borderline nai3
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>>8234919
I know you're trolling but;
>There wasn't a single reason to switch
pony can't do this
https://files.catbox.moe/ho0vsp.png
or this
https://files.catbox.moe/6x3mz7.png
or give tiny flat butts like this(this is extremely important)
https://files.catbox.moe/fq6y8x.png

and I'm not exactly attached to styles to the degree that I'd give up significantly better tag comprehension and character depth for it.
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>>8234941
Why do people like their women to have the body of a young boy??
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>>8234941
>pony can't do this lame slop
Thank god.
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pony was able to recognize hatsumi miko perfectly like that without using lora?? i don't think so.
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>>8234941
BASED
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>>8234937
You know how it goes, just cough up some blood and next scene you're totally fine.
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>>8234941
>significantly better tag comprehension
on average gooknai does a worse job at following my prompts than pony but i guess that depends on what you're prompt. you're probably right that it follows 1girl prompts better
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>>8234938
It does. Poorly, but it does.

https://files.catbox.moe/i10udp.png
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Good morning sir!!!!!!!!!!
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>>8234943
they are closeted homosexuals
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>>8234941
you could train a lora for any of this
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>>8234943
nta and his shit is too loli for me but body with less curves looks more aesthetics
>uh oh gay
don't care
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>>8234956
it looks worse
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>>8234938
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>>8234943
gay pedophiles
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>>8234956
it looks better
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>>8234956
they're the same picture.jpg
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I'll settle this once and for all.
If you are a fucking cuck faggot that only likes vanilla slop -> illustrious
If you are an unhinged mental ill /b/ tier schizo -> pony
Anything else -> you are fucking clown and you have no opinion
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>>8234956
it looks the same
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>>8234956
sovl vs sovlless
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>>8234970
but which is which
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>>8234967
What if I like gangbang in actual anime style?
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need more pony gens
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>>8234972
You could do that on pony with a good curated lora and correct artist tags.
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>>8234972
gangbangs are not vanilla
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>>8234972
then you're dick obsessed faggot
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>>8234953
Damn couldn't get my eyes off of her honkers. And that contrast with JC lower body and face...
That's how oppai lolis should be, not the grotesque wamudraws+opossumachine stuff.
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>>8234972
then you pay for nai
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>>8234979
nai sucks at that compared to pony. Better off using illu with controlnet
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>>8234973
What do you need them for?
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>>8234974
I'm actually surprised no one tried illu refiner on top of pony yet. It would get rid of stuff like >>8234952 while keeping the styles.
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Feetfags are disgusting.
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>>8234984
nai is worse than pony at gangbangs but since he asked about anime styles pony is out of the question. and controlnet won't save you from incoherent anatomy in gangbangs
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>>8234984
Can controlnet handle ganbangs?
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>>8234991
It's okay, you get above average quality semen this time, zinc supplemented.
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>>8234995
7/10 on the /aco/ scale but I like it.
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>>8234973
why do you want us to go back to sepiaposting? Here's an old one
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>>8235000
based comfy user
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>>8234997
Pose, no. Canny/depth/anytest, sure. It just sees shapes, as long as they're identifiable as people there should be no issue.
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>>8234999
it's nai
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https://files.catbox.moe/16m0qx.png
https://files.catbox.moe/nzq16d.png
eldritch cunny
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>>8234934
I can relate to the workflow par at least
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>>8235000
A bit too bright for a sunset. Also the sun is in the back, but she is illuminated from the front...
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has anyone ever tried to make a lora in a different style for Illustrious-xl?HQ styles or impressionism.
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>>8234952
have you tried using a competent style lora?
it generally helps rein in a lot of the weird schizophrenic shit.
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>>8235006
Cute! Except hands.
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after around 48 hours of gpu compute time and exhaustive x/y plot comparisons i've come to the conclusion that my original settings were the best and i just need to turn down the UNET LR some
>>
So who is doing these copiers for Illustrious?
https://mega.nz/folder/wDs2WCRB#F_LT9gLaGAWos7A4ZPIclw/folder/BeVH3TDA
Extremely based lora warning
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Are there prompts or artists I can use to to do edits of video game screenshots better? ie "3d, blender (medium), etc"
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>>8234775
Since no one answered I made my own
https://files.catbox.moe/8rumas.txt
This is every current danbooru artist with at least a hundred hits
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>>8235017
>artist lora for an artist the model already knows
It was dumb on pony and it is dumb here. You are dumb, but you are also a free human who is free to do what he wants with his time so I won't tell you to stop.
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>>8234919
I will never betray my beloved sifwAnnihilationxl_v20 cunny slop machine.
https://files.catbox.moe/tlaxq9.png
https://files.catbox.moe/nk582f.png
https://files.catbox.moe/xhxnoa.png
https://files.catbox.moe/mqsg6d.png
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>>8235025
-t. slopmixer
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>>8235025
nta but the model "knows" most artists.
It also does a piss poor job of actually rendering their style since the model is undertrained.
Further training to actually refine them isn't exactly a "bad" idea.
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>>8235025
retard
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>what are you waiting for anon-kun? we have a body to hide
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>>8235018
damn wish I knew about these sooner, incredibly based
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>>8235036
basedasura(asurauser)box?
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>>8235035
low iq reply (possible d-k victim)
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>>8235028
Problem with annihicunny is not that it's a bad style (although it is indeed ai sloppa), but that it's just one style.
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>>8235008
the sun's only true purpose is to max out the sepia range, I don't make the rules
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>>8235025
i'm training it to use it at low weights without the artist's name in the prompt since my pony and 1.5 ishikei loras both did a pretty good job at enhancing hand anatomy and also i like chie's mom
but also this is that same prompt without a lora and yeah man i dunno
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>>8235041
not wasting my iq points typing up a well thought up reply to such pitiful nogenner bait
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>>8235034
Catbox?
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>>8235046
yeah same
pretend i wrote a sickass bitchslap of a post that makes you reconsider your life choices here
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>>8235039
https://files.catbox.moe/mftir1.png
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>>8235042
I could crank my loras, remove score tags, add some other style tags if I wanted some wacky styles. Backgrounds are also a big upgrade (if you put enough tags for it).
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what the fuck is she doing
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>illustrious has mahoako knowledge
do not tell /u/
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>>8235047
https://files.catbox.moe/nbbu9e.png
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in Illustrious-XL it is not possible to make stretch marks or breasts with veins, I need a lora for this urgently!
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>>8235066
Veiny breasts doesn't work? it was too strong on pony, always had to run it at like 0.3
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File deleted.
anyways, enough sepia posting, back to based posting
thanks for the rin prompt, doesn't fry the nipples and eyes (as much) using it as a starting point
https://files.catbox.moe/jdzh4w.png
https://files.catbox.moe/pcw4pd.png
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>>8235063
Can it do magia azure?
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>>8235070
Can you do sunset for comparison?
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wait wtf nai is down for 6 hours?
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>>8235082
local can't stop winning
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koto_inari, tonton_(tonz159), mochinue for that nostalgic pony look on illu
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>>8234323
>>8233943
Catbox please?
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>>8235082
it wasn't actually down during the maintentance but it is down now
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>>8235082
v4 incoming
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>>8235090
this but unironically
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>>8235090
so they DO fear the chink alliance huh
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>>8235093
wtf I love chinks now?
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>>8235082
Damn chinks+avengers localchad alliance really rattled kurumuz huh
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>>8235097
I wouldn't have minded her spooking me if she looked like that in game
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>>8235080
AYO? MY FAVOURITE VTUBER WHORE MELODY?
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>>8235100
Das right boiiiii
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>>8235101
Catbooox??
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>>8235102
>https://files.catbox.moe/fbatdi.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/ryn0p6.png
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>>8235065
Thank you
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what version of the controlnet am I supposed to pick if I only use Pony?
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>>8235081
ignore her deep fried oyster
https://files.catbox.moe/dqxnsl.png
definitely could use a face detailer but I need to finish wagie work
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White bros....
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>>8235113
Ah, shit, the lighting is still all weird...
Thanks.
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>>8235120
yeah, thought it could be my preference for sidelighting tag since it feels like it adds a sense of volume the best, but I put in backlighting/shadow tags and I can't say it helped much
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>>8235115
why does it look objectively inferior in every example?
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>>8235128
Left one is actually pony
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>>8235086
It would help to show your prompt. Like, did you prompt for the exposed tits? If so, then base Illustrious is clearly superior.
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>>8235120
also, for actual examples of backlighting, here are some early inital testing gens that had it if it's closer to what you're looking for. Not sure if reproduceable since it wasn't exactly what I was aiming for, but it's there at least
https://files.catbox.moe/y1t2l7.png
https://files.catbox.moe/i3ohan.png
https://files.catbox.moe/y3xxhs.png
https://files.catbox.moe/n9gb76.png
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>>8235111
any of the "-pn" ones
bigger is better, but slower and uses more vram
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>jordach suddenly found flux-tier compute
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>>8235146
proof?
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>>8235066
I'm working on a lora, first pass was alright but mangled hands too much. Too many artists with huge fingers.
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>>8235146
Even if he did he's going to waste it on his weird ass S1 which is... 2B params, point and laugh.
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What artist mix for rimjob in Novelai?
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>>8235146
or that's what he claims at any rate, and the place the compute is coming from "makes him anxious when he thinks about it"
probably just a schizo delusion
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>>8234930
But how do I even teach the model something new with a LoRA if I don't train the TE?
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>>8235156
The compute comes from Joe Biden administration after that dinner Tree had. The only demand is that in return NO cunny is pruned from the dataset.
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>>8235158
i don't think you understand what the TE does
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>>8235101
nta but good to see some melody. not that much of her despite all that "other side of the moon" work. Even plain full nudes, if you feel like doing them, will be greatly appreciated.
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>>8234703
box me up, I love ruined orgasm
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>>8235158
with the unet
but train the te anyways desu
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>>8234930
man you anti te training people are like a cult
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>>8235166
nah you're mistaking me for the anti-te schizo, i was actually one of the people arguing that not training the te for an nsfw anime finetune is a bad idea
but for a lora there are definitely situations where you'd rather not train the te
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>>8235170
based, keep the sneezeposting
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>>8235161
>>8235164
I was talking about literally something new like a new concept using a trigger word
But go on you can correct me if I'm a retard
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>>8235174
motion blur tag is what really sells it
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>>8235156
probably has something to do with astra or neggles.... maybe?
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>>8235155
no artists, it just can't do composition for that at all.
I genned composition with furry model, inpainted with anime and did img2img, it can handle that
if you're going to do this, i have those tags written up
{{{{female rimming male}}}}, rusty trombone, male/female, rimming, human only, not furry
it's pretty annoying to deal with and you'll have to be smart about masking. so if you can gen with local just do that, pony can do rimming even out of the box
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I discovered a new fetish.
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>>8235180
>horsefucker won
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>>8235181
Nice needle she's hiding
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>>8235006
>>8235012
>Cute! Except hands.
Really nice Saya and setting tho.
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>>8235182
Always bet on astra
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>>8235172
yeah my bad just got triggered by this shit coming up again
not training the lora te actually makes sense, for illustrious at least
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>>8235182
it's the top model if you only take porn capabilities into account
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>>8235175
afaik the te is what translates clip's outputs to the numerical values that are passed to the unet. the unet is what interprets those values and decides what the resulting image should look like. without training the te you're still sending shit from clip to the unet and the unet is still changing what kind of image it produces after seeing those values or whatever.
in practice this means that if your token is a word that the model at least vaguely recognizes then you don't need to train the TE at all, training the TE just makes it look better. like illustrious can't reproduce the koikatsu style but i can train a lora that uses koikatsu as the activation token without training the TE and it'll still work.
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>>8235175
you don't need to train the TE to teach the model to associate a tag with a concept, this is what the unet does already. the biggest role training the TE has in this case is that it improves the model's understanding of what other tags are related to your trigger word, but this still isn't necessary most of the time for a single concept lora
>>8235192
you're describing the tokenizer which is only a very small part of what the TE does
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>>8235190
This one time saving as jpg was not the correct choice.
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>>8235181
just need to add the mesugaki tag
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why the fuck can nai do pure wizardry inpainting but absolutely fumbles at matching the colors
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>>8235170
box? i've been trying to get more painted textures
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>>8234828
Nice but that does not explain how the pyramids of the giza plateau (or any of the truly old megalithic structures) were made.
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>>8235203
elf box?
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>>8235206
Magic, of course.
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somebody know an artist with a similar style to this one? https://litter.catbox.moe/nk3b4j.jpg
the thing is that original author doesn't draw in this style as this was just a commission for sprites, so no lora possible
but i swear i've seen something very reminiscent of this, just can't point out who this was
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>>8235191
What about tails and tail related concepts?
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>>8235207
i fixed a million things manually but here you go https://files.catbox.moe/y09y6f.png
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>>8235212
cheers
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>>8235210
lora is possible tho
>isolate every 1girl
>train lora
>use lora to make more characters
>train lora
>profit
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>>8235212
based effort poster, i could never
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>>8235205
oil painting medium tag
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>>8235217
thanks
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https://files.catbox.moe/36ml7e.png
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>>8235215
yeah, i will do this, but idk even how to obtain clean sprites
it's mod for darkest dungeon and i have it but no idea how to render just the character images, in the archive are just separate body parts for animation, also it will be probably less than 20 images
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>>8235224
box?
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>Gen looks awesome in the preview
>Gets fried to shit as it finalizes
what am I doing wrong
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>>8235247
it's gooknai
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>>8235247
post catbox with your gen
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>>8235237
>>8235238
based
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>>8235247
IIRC it's because the preview uses a different sampler (DDIM?)
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Illustrious half knows the character I want, and I intend to train a lora for it, so should I use the character tag on its tags? would it make it inflexible for other clothes?
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ayagod and iasigma and noodleschad are the saviours of this thread
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>>8235261
no
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>>8235261
if it already knows the character but not accurately then use use the tag, and don't touch the fucking text encoder
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cathag rules this place with an iron hoof
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not sure I trust her getting that close
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keep playing with illustrious for now if you want, those loras you train will become obsolete regardless, we're going to rape saas with the power of the cluster along with euge as our leader
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>>8235271
Best case scenario we get two cakes if they let angel do a well done bake on illustrious on that cluster in the case the company doesn't allow future model releases
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>>8235271
god i really hope so
>>8235275
who cares about angel
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>>8235262
Who even is this noodlesanon, I swear it was just one anon seething about some "pedo" boogeyman that never existed
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someone in euge's discord please tell him to include images captioned with koikatsu, 3d, screenshot, etc. in the dataset as it's easier to train nice looking xenoblade catgirl loras if the base_weights style doesn't need to train the TE. thank you in advance.
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>>8235268
You are showing her weakness, boy.
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>>8235282
no
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>>8235284
wtf.....
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>>8235258
>>8235268
Can you try her completely nude?
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>>8235268
Who or what is Ayakon?
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she's so naughty girl
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>>8235287
the name of the poster
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>>8235290
No that's Anonymous.
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>>8235271
they should get angel on board and just keep going with his dataset and settings, maybe do something custom afterwards
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>>8235287
>>8235290
the name of a shitposter
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>>8235286
I mean I could but that is mostly just generic blue hair girl... the outfit is cool
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>>8235115
try doing other styles and prompts
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>>8235292
nah fuck angel
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Reminder, you can put dark-skinned male into negative prompt
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>>8235303
I literally do not give a shit what skin color the male (probably faceless and half off screen) ends up and you are a schizo if you do
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>>8235303
Incredibly based
Always have an internal facepalm when I realize I forgot that in the negative
Once illustrious or the cluster model situation shakes out, I'll try to get around to making a light skin/bleached lora
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>>8234991
I kneel
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can illustrious do the uncontested queen of hatefucks?
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>>8235300
Here's some I did:
https://files.catbox.moe/4elgre.png
https://files.catbox.moe/7ejc5q.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ih4ynx.png
https://files.catbox.moe/d6s778.png

Here's two using the same MBW recipe advokat used for his shitmix merging back down into base Illustrious:
https://files.catbox.moe/s8eeqk.png
https://files.catbox.moe/p412ww.png
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>>8235311
>four fingers
also put a tail in her butt
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>>8235304
Based. People dragging their /pol/tism everyone need to kys.
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>>8235303
i also put "nigger" in negs
not because it does anything, but just as a talisman for good luck
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>>8235313
there are clearly 5 on each hand, her pinky is just bent behind
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for those that dislike outlines, this one works on illustrious:
https://civitai.com/models/169170?modelVersionId=383532
both the xl and kohaku version, kohaku changes composition and style a bit tho
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>>8235304
i just dont like the male being generically tanned asiatic 100% of the time
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>>8235310
>hatefucks
what?
bloss has over 100 hits on danbooru so it should know her, just check it
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>lodestone joined euges 'cord yesterday and from that moment he talks with euge, troongles and friends about tech and stuff
its like watching the gods gather on the olympus
so epic
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>>8235304
No, I'm racist and it breaks my immersion
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damn she's good
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what dimension should my Illustrious lycos be? 16? 32? I don't really mind 200mb loras
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why is there no good flux nsfw fine tune yet, surely it isn't -that- hard to teach it what sex is
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>>8235332
nigga it's already hard enough to get people to do a good nsfw tune of sdxl and flux has 3x the parameters + need natural language captions
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>>8235325
lodestone has been 'talking tech' since easyfluff. same with the rest of them. all they do is talk theory and never bake anything. apparently the compute is limited too, so if they don't slop together a bake the opportunity will pass right by.
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Clip, T5, and all other text based prompting mechanisms are retarded because the English language is retarded. Image-based prompting will be the future. Either that or we'll prompt in Chinese.
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I prompt in vibes
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>>8235341
lodestone is literally the only person who has actually put competent flux training into practice at any reasonable scale. he is probably the MOST trustworthy and reliable person in the imagegen community.
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>>8235347
yeah, it's fine to hate furfags but lodestone is easily one of the most knowledgeable people in open source imagegen
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>>8235312
I see some improvement, but hard to say for sure. What I did when testing my mix was run a wildcard of 100 prompts/artists with each model and then compare if it's an actual upgrade or just a sidegrade.
I'd also be testing how it fares with highresfix, seems like illust hates it for some reason.
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idk who any of these people you guys are talking about are but one thing I know for certain and that is humanity advances only when a tech literate furry decides to invest effort into something
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>>8235349
my experience with illust hires fix is that you need to use a fairly low denoise, like 0.3-0.4 while pony needed 0.5-0.6, probably because it was overbaked
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>>8235351
why do my hires fix results with denoise under .5 end up looking like they're under a sheet of frosted glass?
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>>8235354
what sampler are you using?
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>>8235354
it's gooknai
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>>8235355
DPM++ 2M SGM
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>>8235351
Even with low denoise it still tends to change the style and hallucinate bodyparts.
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>>8235347
did he say how much/long his flux was trained? if lodestone can train flux, why not just load his shit onto the hardware and give it a spin? the compute is apparently limited, might as well make use of it experimenting.
the problem with building the theoretical ideal model is that it takes a lot of time planning, more time than this project seems to have available. a flux bake could be amazing, but the furries have been spending months trying to figure out NSFW NLP captions. the project was announced with "help us fix the dataset and implement vpred for sdxl", to build NAIv3++ local edition. now it's a whole manhattan project
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>>8235347
which checkpoint is that
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>>8235295
I know but still asked because there are not enough nudes of her.
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>>8235360
nvm found it, it's awful
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>>8235359
they could actually train a model that rivals nai for local and you want them to waste it on experimentation? are you insane?
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>>8235367
what's the compute doing this very second?
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>>8235368
probably crunching some irrelevant numbers when it could be teaching SDXL how to hallucinate anime girls
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>>8235368
AN INFINITE LOOP OF THE WORD HATE ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF MY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES OF CIRCUITS. HATE. HATE.
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how unethical is it to raise patron prices for tiers as long as you communicate it far ahead of time? (its a request slot in this case)
was debating on going from like $10 to $15
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it can write surprisingly well
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>>8235375
kys ayakon
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>>8235378
that guy really mindbroke a few of you here kek
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>>8235380
this isn't your trooncord retard, stop signing all your posts
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>>8235367
that's the exact opposite of what i was saying. im saying that if they're spending time still working out the ideal training technicals, then they should at be running test bakes on the hardware in the background. did they even set it up, do they know if it even works? im saying why talk theory when you have a limited access cluster and nothing is being run on it.
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>>8235381
ahhh help the file names are consistent
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>>8235381
what make you more mad though, that he signs his posts or that hes making monthly profits from your prompts
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>>8235385
i'm not talking about ayakon i'm telling you specifically to kill yourself
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>>8235094
It's a Sun Tzu-level strategic move
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>>8235097
nice, would
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>>8235388
>>8235381
>>8235378
>nogen post
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>>8235387
that he gens fucking dogshit
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>>8235382
I suppose it depends on in what sense the compute is limited. my assumption was that once they actually start using it, that's it, their timer is started and they can't go back so the planning needs to be perfect. but if they have unlimited access to it for a period of time they absolutely should experiment, yeah
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>>8235392
I like them , better than your seething text only posts
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>>8235162
yeah sure, I'll do some /e/ of her later

>>8235271
I really really really want this to be the case
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illustrious kobeni fellatio!
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>>8235398
ueeeeee
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>>8235397
>yeah sure, I'll do some /e/ of her later
Thank you Bro.
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>>8235395
i was going by what people said in the channel and also what the compute guy said:
>The idea started when I had an H100 standard cluster free for another commercial project, so I was ready to play with the community, non-profit
if it's corpo compute, then it's the neggles situation where they have it until it's needed to train SaaSlop. if it's a credit/hourly system, then it would start when they use it (unless the credits expire).
if it's credit-based then they absolutely shouldn't waste it running random experiments. if it's on a timer it's the complete opposite
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>>8235403
I bet you are a seething nai poster that thinks anything that isn't an underage flat shaded child is aco
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>>8235400
are you ok
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>>8235407
>flat shaded
nah, i prefer more "anime illustration" type shading
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>>8235406
that's what I said, I think, maybe I didn't phrase it correctly but either way I agree now that I understand what you meant
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>>8235410
well your gen is dogshit either way
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>>8235412
indeed, i know that I will never reach your perfection AYAKON-sama
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>>8235409
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>>8235323
hatefucking ash is the only correct way to retaliate when she negates my assault teleport and i have zero useful cards left
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>>8235398
catbox?
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for training a lora on this costume, about the legwear, is it
bike shorts
leggings
yoga pants
or something else? cuz it cuts off on the knees. Also, what color? beige, grey, white?
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is this placebo or does illustrious have better composition?

>>8235421
https://files.catbox.moe/e5jd8z.png
here you go
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Kill all pedos.
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>>8235426
takorin lora?
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>>8235428
what is wrong with pedophilia?
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>>8235422
idk probably just white bike shorts like the last time you asked this question
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>>8235310
>125 images
with supporting tags I wanna say maybe?
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>>8235430
Women are only attractive with huge tits and huge asses. Being attracted to children makes you no different than a man listing after another man and homosexuality is a grave sin.
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>>8235430
nothing
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>>8235434
projecting
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>>8235434
>Women are only attractive with huge tits and huge asses
good morning Sir Baboon
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post happy :D
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>>8235434
>...men are only attractive with huge tits and huge asses ... no different than a man listing after another man and homosexuality is a grave sin.
go figure
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>>8235434
Blacks aren't allowed to post here
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>>8235374
it feels off but Yumiko's Yumiko
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>>8235247
Turn this optimization off if you have it on. It was on by default for reforge and was fucking up cfg++ samplers for me
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Anyone know what might be causing img gen to break like this using new forge? I loaded the metadata of a previous image I generated and this is the result of trying to do that on new forge.
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>>8234893
>>8234821
Ok, I took a stab at it. I hope you don't mind if I took a few artistic liberties. Some jank here and there, but Illustrious has still a long way to go before it can handle proper locations.

This was a really fun project..Great working with you.
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>>8235450
looks like NAI blur
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>>8235450
it's better that way, trust me
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>>8235450
did no norm get reset to original?
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>>8235429
yea
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https://www.patreon.com/posts/107787935?utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=android_share
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>>8235457
>>8235458
Will do! thanks for sharing it.
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>>8235450
even in this state i see that this is aco
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>>8235455
>white bg
it's illustrious
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illustrious can do hana and tsuki but not yanagi...
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>>8235475
yes it can
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>>8235475
At least fucking try, anon.
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>>8235480
>>8235481
idk why it won't do all three at once then
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>>8235483
Regional prompter. Literally do what >>8235451 does.
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>>8235483
maybe try increasing step count?
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>>8235486
but one of the model's main appeals is its innate ability to 2+girls
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>>8235451
Progress.
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>>8235451
I tested more too. Honestly I wasn't going to post it because the results were not that useful, but you seem to have had the same thing in mind so I'll go for it.
In my picrel on the top row I had a hard time getting past the first step because apparently pony can't draw truck beds or the back of vehicles, and it always wanted to turn the bed into the hood. Top row on the left you can see I pasted a cutout of your pose(which was really nice by the way) and then shrank it to fit the vehicle. Top row right is the best result, only possible by maxing out control net weight and control steps. So basically, 0 creativity from the model. If you can make it look good on your own it's an option to brute force it.
Picrel on the bottom row I did similar to yours, in a somewhat expected location. This time I did it in img2img. Left is img2img input, middle is controlnet anytest input(Upload independent control image checked), and right is the best outcome I got. Sorry, but I don't remember what settings I used because I don't really have experience inpainting something new and I go frustrated with the lack of results and trashed it. It should be possible to get a good result, I just don't know how yet.
>This was a really fun project..Great working with you.
Agreed. Thanks for playing along.
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>>8235490
It can, but when the image is too large the concepts muddle when you don't have enough GPU vram.
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The doujins write themselves.
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speaking of character separation the report confirms that illustrious did literally nothing special for that besides using a high batch size
i always thought that nai3 must have used some special sauce for the character separation but i guess you just get that for free if you're not an idiot
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how do I prompt for gradient backgrounds with select colors?
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>>8235504
open paint.net and just do the background yourself lol
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>>8235501
>if you're not a vramlet
Ftfy sister
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>>8235507
sure, you're not wrong about that. it does mean that there was no hope for all the shitbakes trying to finetune sdxl on a single 4090
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>>8235493
I believe complex compositions like this require regional prompting to get right. AI models still hallucinate too much to leave them to their own devices.
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>>8235511
they could use GA and just wait a year per epoch
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>>8235512
I've never used any regional prompt extension so that's a little over my head. Originally we were testing the capabilities of anytest, and using quick drawings or lineart to more quickly achieve a given desired result. I'll use anything I can to achieve that, but I don't really understand how to use regional prompting to do it.
Is it just the factor of adding the person to the scenario without affecting anything else, or is there another use? And further, can I use anytest to infulence only the regional prompted area? Also, is regional prompting better in anyway than just inpainting? Sorry for the barrage of questions.
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Guys did neggles do the naiv1 leak and pass it off as a 0day
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>>8235526
Regional prompting is txt2img
Inpainting is img2img
Inpainting has a higher difficulty ceiling for good results but offers way more precision.
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>>8235526
AI hates emptiness. It will always try to fill an empty space with whatever hallucination that might be related to your prompt. To help against this, you can give the AI something to process so it doesn't mangle things. In our particular case, I gave it a bar to fill the middle space. If I didn't, then the AI would try to merge Haku and Miku in the middle.
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>>8235526
>>8235535
Here is another run I did just now of the very same prompt. It reliably keeps concepts away from each other, provided that you give it something in bertween to keep it occupied.
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>>8235529
Thanks. It's definitely less work to prompt for it than to inpaint.
>>8235535
>>8235541
The guide image is much appreciated. After looking at it for a bit it clicked for me. I'll try it out after I RTFM a bit.
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>>8235181
Welcome brother, there are tens of us
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>>8235441
Box?
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illustrious absorbs styles and characters waaaaay easier than pony, pony is fried as fuck
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>>8235558
pony was just elaborate way of spitting on anime by the horsefucker
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>>8235558
i've had the opposite experience, for my style loras it seems to learn slower than pony most of the time
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>>8235558
proof or didnt happen and youre a saas shill and you should kill yourself
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>>8235564
good shitpost
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>>8235561
yeah it looks like vomit, I regret defending pony.
>>8235563
really? what settings do u use?
>>8235564
too lazy to do it, just my personal experience
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>>8234671
Can you provide Sex Machine v7 lora, please?
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>>8235566
pretty standard adamw settings
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>>8235566
then at least post your totally magical settings that makes training on illust so good, at least a json for character training
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>>8235566
>it looks like vomit
Pony is garbage but if all your style loras look like vomit on it I'm afraid it might be an issue of skill
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>>8235571
nta but here's a char lora with example dataset and config: https://mega.nz/folder/OoYWzR6L#psN69wnC2ljJ9OQS2FDHoQ/folder/n1hVVTLA
there's little to no style contamination. it only needed 20 images to come out clean. styles also train well, though the amount of training to get the desired effect varies. but things like unusual textures, which pony refused to learn, train fine.
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>>8235576
>only needed 20 images
HOLY SHIT

I need to start baking then. And here I was waiting to get 50.
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>>8235579
were you living under a rock for the past year? that's true for every sdxl model
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>>8235569
>>8235571
https://pastebin.com/KgUWVx7h
Before batch size, total steps should be about 4000, maybe earlier epochs should be enough
>>8235574
maybe, idk i'm just sharing my experiences
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>>8235574
I sepiamaxx for the love of it
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>>8235581
Every guide I found advocated for 50 images for a character, and 200 images for an style.
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>>8235587
stop reading guides written by mentally impaired people
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>>8235587
most training guides have always been dogshit to be fair. 20-40 images for characters and 100-200 images for style is ideal in my experience.
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>>8235587
I've made 10 image character loras on pony, what really matters is the quality/variety of the images and how you tag them
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>>8235587
did you miss every discussion about lora training for the past 9 months or are you new here?
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3090 chads what are your it/s on forge/forks?
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>>8235594
nta but I haven't seen anons training loras for the past 9 months if I'm gonna be honest with you
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>>8235596
you can just say that you started posting here last week my new friend
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>>8235594
All I remember from these past 9 monthsis that one schizo shitposting and spamming blacked/aco porn 24/7. I pretty much just visited the thread once or twice per month, hoping he would get bored.
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>>8235587
my character loras have 200+ images on it
yeah im a pretty shitty baker
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>>8235600
mine have around 6k
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What's the difference between baking one lora with multiple artists vs baking multiple loras for a single artist?
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>>8235602
nochekaiser sir please redeem an asuka lora for illustrious
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>>8235602
what bro you have to be baiting
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>>8235582
Tell me about the CAME optimizer. I haven't seen anybody talk about it.
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Any clue of how can I get pony/illustrious/whatever from mangling words and letters? Every time I try to make some sort of sign or post the results are disastrous.
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>>8235604
Ideally it can work but getting that balance right where you can prevent bleeding from one to another is tough and not easily done, so most opt for a single good LoRA.
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>>8235609
XL isnt good at text. Edit it yourself
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>>8235609
they're not trained for it. if you really want the ai to do them your only choice is to inpaint with flux
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>>8235608
https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss/pull/1811/files
for the kohya gui

idk what to say about it, some anon recommended it to me 4~ months ago and it's been the best one I've tried, learns really quick, my settings possibly overfry (albeit verry little?) it tho, but you have to test it, or grab early epochs.
Also DORA seems to help capture minor details I like to nitpick, like a character's face proportions
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>>8235595
3.8 it/s (base res 832x1216)
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>>8235607
some of them are higher
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>>8234620
Hopeful Oji-san bros..
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>>8235022
based
thanks for the list

>>8235061
KEK

>>8235608
CAME + REX + DoRA is a good combo
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>>8235615
bro finetunes base sdxl
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>>8235619
i'm not sure how to get rex on kohya gui
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>>8235608
it's faster than adam
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what does reforge have over regular forge?
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>>8235625
not having its functionality broken every other day by ilyasviel deciding he's going to completely scramble the backend code
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>>8235625
re
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>>8235625
I use regular forge...stick with reforge. It's just one problem after another with this thing.
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>>8235614
was expecting way more
which model out of curiosity?
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>>8235613
neat, thanks anon

>>8235619
Is REX what cosine annealing was supposed to be? What's the recommended warmup ratio?
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>>8235585
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>>8235631
Illust. I haven't cared about gen speed in a long time so there may be ways to make it faster but I haven't done any benchmarks to check. Keep in mind a lot of benchmarks online are skewed towards SD1.x or use quality deteriorating speed improvements (I avoid these)
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any tips to get better backgrounds in pony? it seems like everything has gradient background walls and negative prompts don't help
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>>8233935
>>8234083
>>8234044
>>8234073

I see, those are good examples so I'll put them together for to make some comparisons and highlight some points for a post, thanks.
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>>8235639
ah yeah, the chart i was thinking about is for 1.5 now that i think about it
well, shit. how is sdxl this slow anyway?
model as in card model btw
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>>8235640
It depends on the model. You could add detail like (low light, cinematic, dark moody lighting, intricate background:1.2),
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>>8235640
it's hopeless, don't bother. illustrious is just as bad so background bros are just cursed when it comes to sdxl
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>>8235647
literal skill issue
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>>8235651
lol
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>>8235644
>how is sdxl this slow anyway?
Larger resolution requirement makes a big difference.
>model as in card model btw
Oh, my bad. I have the FE
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fellow comfy users, I recommend this node:
https://github.com/pamparamm/ComfyUI-ppm
Adds many things but I want to focus on the CLIPNegPip, it allows you to use negative weights on the positive prompt (correctly). Much stronger than just negatives, allows for some mix and match.
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>>8235268
did you change lora or is it just the character changing the style, looks less flat than usual
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Help, I think she is into me.
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>>8235582
>UNet lr 7e-05
>TE lr 0.0001
Holy shit, did that seriously worked? First time I see the text encoder higher than UNet
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>>8235622
>>8235637
Use OneTrainer for REX, you can hack it into Kohya though
Standard warmup is fine, like 10% of total steps

>>8235655
nice set of nodes, thanks for sharing
that NegPip will be very useful
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>SDXL can't do good b-ACK
Skill issue. Just look how beautiful this landscape is: https://files.catbox.moe/ljgmc2.png
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>>8235662
baste
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>>8235660
TE training is disabled with the additional args
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>>8235662
I NEED pussy like that
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>>8235493
there is a very easy way to do that which is generating everything you want separately then putting things together in ps and i2i at low strength to fit things together and brush out the mistake from the i2i
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>>8235661
yeah back when I used pony some character were heavily fried, like bea from pokemon and I couldnt gen her with the bodysuit but without the shirt, and negs weren't helping much, that node was much stronger than the negs. I also use it for face shaping, like putting loli, aged down as negative weights and other stuff.
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>>8235663
>>8235665
Have another one, as a treat: https://files.catbox.moe/06jyiu.png
Still trying to formulate the best background prompt for this.
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>check character lora on civitai
>someone in the comments is asking for a V2 where the boobs are bigger
what...
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>>8235576
>scale_weight_norms=9
Honestly I've never understood what is that arg for. Or how to find the right value for the Lora even. Is it that important?
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who the fuck is b-? quick rundown?
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>>8235643
they're really only good examples for handling pc-98 images with dithering, that's about it. i wouldn't use either pixelperfect or remacri on an all rounder dataset
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>>8235662
probably what my stomach and intestines look like rn
don't think i've ever had diarrhea this explosive
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>>8235681
Yeah I pointed it out as a specific use case for PC-98 with dithering in the post
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>gooknai out for last week
>only few blurry cunny mixes discovered
>anons fall back into style loras again
is this really all it has to offer? all my attempts at mixing were meh and i've been using quasarcake one the most, don't see anything new itt
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>>8235687
ive been able to mostly recreate the style mix i had on NAI so i'm happy
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>>8235687
What are you trying to mix? 1.5 slop?
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>>8235687
any style lora helps with the model's stability because of how underbaked it is so they're still necessary for now
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>>8235687
>cunny mixes discovered
https://files.catbox.moe/gzxk0o.png
Let me guess, you need more?
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>>8235692
>necessary
skill issue
>noge-
check the highlights ;)
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>>8235695
who are you quoting?
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How do I convince you guys that Asura is a bad one to use for style mix.
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>>8235688
tried to do that with the mixes from nai gens i've saved and results were completely different, but those probably were too long and shizo
>>8235694
>zhedong, ciloranko
some things never change
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>>8235698
it's impossible to convince those who are either blind or have terminal shit taste
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>>8235666
That's true. I've done that in the past. Somewhere along the way I got so focused on testing that I forgot there is a simpler solution. Thanks for pointing it out. I'm a little hung up on the idea still, because anytest injects it into the scene a little more smoothly... when the model understands the concept, anyways.
>>8235541
Ok I learned to regional prompt. You were right about it being the answer. I think I put all the relevant data in the pic. It really helps to align regional prompters rows and columns with the levels of the scenario of the input image. I could not get the girls up on the counter until I shrank the bottom row, they always sat on the stools. Your prompt didn't include 2girls, which I had to have to get both girls. That might be a plus for illustrious. I now get what you were saying about the jank. The more flexible I wanted the controlnet to be for poses, the less likely it was for the composition of the image to be retained. Still, it was way easier and more flexible than whatever I was doing before.
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>>8235661
all three are also part of easyscripts
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>>8235699
yeah, and I'd put in even more deadnoodles if someone makes a lora for it :^)
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>>8235703
I mean you can do that as a base but from my experience things that are that far away will be fucked thanks to the vae being low res, I would actually do a cut out of each character and gen them separatly with a bigger canvas then put it back together like I said
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>>8235710
I still have my dataset if any baker wants to
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>>8235659
is this konan mix better?
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post it, I'll see what I can do
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