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Previous Thread: >>8234281

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge
Maintained fork (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/404802
https://civitai.com/models/288584
https://civitai.com/models/257749

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070/controlnetxl-cnxl | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscaler models: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
List of useful A1111 extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8237174
2/2
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keeeeek
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>>8237174
>>8237175
based, tyfys
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>>8237174
>>8237175
kill yourself you threadsniping faget.
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>>8237174
>>8237175
kill yourself
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>>8237174
>>8237175
I really hope you would stop trolling this thread, man.
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>>8237188
>>8237189
>>8237190
uh oh someone didn't make it into the highlights!
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Now be good cuckies and post in my thread ;)
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>>8237174
>>8237175
based asf
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This link got expired. Can someone reupload it?
https://litter.catbox.moe/yti59r.png
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>>8237195
>falseflagging this early
home
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>>8237194
Such is the tragedy of the nogens.
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>>8237200
i've seen this exact lamp and curtains about 2000 times by now
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>>8237207
holy shit, the tail is a little hard to see but it's still a 10/10
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>>8237207
UNFATHOMABLY keyed effortposter
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OH NO NO NO PONYFUCKERSIRS
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I want to keep caring about astra
I really do
but korea just mogged everyone and I find it difficult to give a shit (apparently, astra does too)
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>>8237215
So no pony shit?
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>>8237215
doesn't apply to local, don't care
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>>8237218
>I want to keep caring about astra
mindbroken
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>>8237215
is porn with immature horses a "bad stuff"?
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>>8237222
man saved local for a good many months, I care about local models and he was a major force in that.
kinda let it rot afterwards though, if in no small part due to a monumental lack of cross cooperation (from both sides of the aisle, admittedly).
caring isn't bad anon, it's good to care. I'd rather care than be eternally salty like some.
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>>8237221
hopefully it's embedded into checkpoint so tensors would NaN
maybe then you sloppers will stop using this shit
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>>8237225
>still convinced astratroon saved local when we'd have gotten illustrious-like efforts way, way earlier if it wasn't for xim
L M A O
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>>8237225
maybe if he didn't "save" local like this we might have gotten a hentai checkpoint that isn't ugly garbage earlier
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>>8237230
highly unlikely
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the fact we got pony slop distracted all local efforts and stagnated them for many months because "there was no point, pony already does it."
pony was a mistake.
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any batch1 vramlet settings for illustrious lora training?
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>>8237177
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>>8237203
weird seeing maggot baits charas in this style, looks good though
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>>8237233
ponyjeets will never understand this
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>>8237229
>>8237230
>inventing the cure for the common cold prevents the cure for lung cancer
anonie...
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>>8237215
he's still releasing the weights so who gives a shit
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>>8237236
based, more please
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>>8237225
>everyone content with ponyslop
if anything, he held local back
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>>8237229
what efforts? illustrious only exists because it's funded by the korean government lol
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>>8237233
this but naiv1 leak
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>>8237239
>retarded false equivalence
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>>8237242
everybody here hated pony from day 1 and only begrudgingly used it because there wasn't anything better, newfag
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what is wrong with a1111/forge/reforge token parsing? why is (photo background:0) is still a token and changes seeds when it's in.
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>>8237207
I KNEEL
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My gen got used as the thumbnail - my family will finally be proud of me
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>>8237246
What did anything that I said have to do with this place retard?
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>>8237244
not really, the wd team didn't know what they were doing in the slightest
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>>8237253
wd delivered less than jordach citing "need compute"
sure hope they do something ever instead of eternally making claims
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is cascade still locking in?
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>>8237252
damn I forgot about this bitch, good faps
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>>8237243
It's also in a very tricky spot because of the fact that the Korean government is involved and Korea has very strict laws on pornographic content. The entire thing is just a house of cards that is going to collapse at some point.
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>>8237259
going by what i'm reading, it's more like jordach's locked out
on his deathbed, tree pulled access to the 3050s as his dying wish. partial epochs are over
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>>8237260
Yeah, I can't get her facial markings right though
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>>8237261
yeah angel's company has no future either way but at least we got 0.1 out of it. i wonder if it would even be legal for angel to release the newer versions of the model after the whole thing explodes
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>>8237262
tree-dono's last act of keyedness...
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>>8237262
he died so the world could be free
and the donations spent on fursuits
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>>8237265
>leak new model
>whoops wasn't me i got hacked or some other shit nobody would believe but it's not like the authorities could do anything l m a o
it's that easy anon
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>>8237237
thanks, I hate that I couldnt get the skin as white as it is in the game tho
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>>8237272
i really don't think it's that easy but even if it was angel seems like too much of a coward to pull any stunts
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>>8237274
getting away with it is so much easier than you think
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>>8237273
I assume you tried "pale skin" or "albino" already? Is that 1.5 anyways? What model is that anyway, the style reminds me of based64 or aom but it isn't as melty as 1.5 would be.
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RX-78-2ちゃん。。。かわいい。。。
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Jordach/Tree status?
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>>8237280
based
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>>8237280
kek
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>>8237281
>jordach
the man who was cucked to death
>tree
rest in peace, actually seemed like a pretty decent guy
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>>8237279
its pony and yeah I tried those
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>>8237273
try 'colored skin', 'white body' or even 'white skin', might work
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i did some illustrious style lora testing to see the effects of difference training with and without the artist's name in the prompt
https://litter.catbox.moe/21yzvx.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/cyt8sv.png
and i must have fucked up somewhere because this is a comparison of one of my earlier ishikei loras and this latest one:
https://litter.catbox.moe/wlt44j.png
the style resilience is shit in comparison and there are maybe three culprits: huber loss, AdEMAMix8bit and multires noise offset. i don't think it's any of those so i'm very confused at the moment.
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>>8237291
were you trying to do aki99?
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>>8237294
yeah that's one of the loras. didn't mean to attach an image though idk how i managed to fuck that up.
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>>8237291
from my experience training several artists with the same general settings and only changing whether the name is captioned:
it's all RNG. it depends on how well the model picked the artist up. sometimes including the name helps, sometimes it doesn't. if it learned the style the "right way" but it's underbaked, it helps. if it learned the "wrong way" it will fry the style.
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>>8237287
>cucked to death
Details?
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>>8237299
who cares? They never delivered anything.
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>>8237299
b-chama has finally resurfaced and is now aiming for euge-chan
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>>8237274
it will likely happen if the company fires him
>>8237265
>angel's company has no future either
depends on what their end goal is, if I was a korean company I'd be aiming for the webtoon market
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>>8236359
I'm curious about the last pic.
Is it only prompt, inpaint, or a belly riding lora I never head before?
I always end with mixed results when I try to gen that.
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Has any anon created thread scraping tool with support for catbox superscript?
Wanted to archive the ai threads for a long time but have no tool for it , any recommendations ?

Any tool that can simply scrape threads is also appreciated , if im not wrong the catbox links / metadata's are hidden inside the images , maybe i could find way to extract the data from images in future
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This Arknights lora didn't turn out as Tacticoom as I hoped it would.
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>>8236769
>>8237277
boxes plz?
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>>8237307
I have a tool that's running on current active threads I started a few days ago. It's scanning for catbox/megas/mediafires for loras though, not images. It spits out the results here:

https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff

I'm using python, there's a pretty straightforward python library for accessing 4chan's api called basc_py4chan that can get info about the boards/threads/posts. It would be really easy to make something similar for grabbing all catbox image links in the active threads and just storing them in a folder somewhere.
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>>8237312
https://files.catbox.moe/qk9fw5.png

mikubox
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>>8237235
bump
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>>8237321
just use whatever you were using for pony and maybe lower the LR a bit if necessary
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>>8237313
>It would be really easy to make something similar for grabbing all catbox image links in the active threads
Sadly idk shit about coding Anon , maybe you can help us by making this "easy to make" tool , im sure there are others who may be interested.
Its really a shame to lose these amazing arts Anons generated
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>>8237323
boooooooooooooox?
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>>8237329
ashes to ashes, slop to slop
in a year we'll be looking back at what is being posted now and wonder how we were so blind to how terrible it is
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>Feel like I have no idea what I'm doing
>Check thread
>Feel better about myself
Man, you guys'll post anything, huh?
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>>8237331
in 5 years it will all be soulful and the new shiny stuff will be soulless
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>>8237332
>nogen
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>>8237330
https://files.catbox.moe/z05nfl.png
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>>8237304
Pics?
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>>8237342
>>8234811
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>>8237335
Well, yeah, I'm not gonna attach a gen to me blatantly insulting the entire thread, that's just a recipe for disaster.
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>>8237354
Pussy
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>>8237354
>nogen
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>>8237354
real
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any styles recommendations on illustrious? it feels a bit bland for me idk what to mix, be it loras or tags. It does not looks like vomit like pony does, tho
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>>8237363
You didn't check catbox in the last 10 threads?
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>>8237354
based
and the ponylegion praises them, too
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>>8237364
uh great suggestion
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>>8237363
ciloranko deadnooodles tianlongdong
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>>8237366
is this ponylegion in the room with us?
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>>8237368
kek would be really really funny if anyone else adopted that style as well
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>>8237372
they're all around us, chud
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>>8237376
why is her hand black
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>>8237379
it's gooknai
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>>8237380
I trust you.
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>>8237379
aids
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>>8237376
Never post here again
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>>8237290
>>8237279
Hmm maybe illustrious did win after all
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>>8236233
Thanks!
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>>8237386
Catboxes on both of them?
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for retarded bakers:
MID,OUT00,OUT01 are the only layers that matter for character training, like pony iirc?
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>>8237376
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>>8237392
you're in some voodoo territory where you may as well fix the kohya loss like they discussed in that GitHub issue
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>>8237392
no
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>>8237396
what
>>8237398
trust
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>>8237387
>>8236233
Looks pretty good, what gpu do you have and how much time it took you?
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>>8237399
github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/discussions/294#discussioncomment-10081465

I honestly don't know if anything addressing this shit is implemented yet or planned in kohya but if not, you may as well implement it yourself
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>>8237399
>trust
no
i trained my own dim matched comparison lora and it's shit. i tried training with 4x the dim and it's shit. i tried training normally and using b-splicer and it's shit. it's just shit
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>>8237392
I don't see why it would be different from pony
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don't train input blocks unless you're doing a character like ellen joe who will have a weirdly shaped tail in the background all the time though. or a pokemon or something. even for scenery it doesn't make much of a difference. that is the only schizo block theory that i've been able to actually verify despite dozens of wasted gpu hours
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>>8237405
sorry bro I have no ideia what i'm looking at, am retarded just like all
>>8237406
gimme some minutes for proof
>>8237407
yeah its just blora again
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Im genning an image rn
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>>8237414
you can't do that
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>>8237416
My bad just cancelled it
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>>8237406
https://files.catbox.moe/k4px1c.png
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>>8237431
>dizzy
Nice.
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>>8237438
what happened to the lightning bwo
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>>8237280
Lol wtf
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>>8237280
I tried to tell myself I was done after that one. That I wasn't going to use RX-78-2ちゃん again. But then I realized I didn't get her getting railed from behind so I had to rectify the situation.
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>>8237443
this is gundam abuse...
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>>8237443
Is this truly what AI is for
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>>8237464
the (latent) space no man dare to tread
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V4 status?
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>>8237485
i don't care
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>>8237443
>her
it's clearly a man's face
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>>8237308
Also made Schwarz look like a child. Don't forget Arknights is a hag game.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/1fsbjdh/thalia_in_a_happier_version_of_the_setting/
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>>8237484
what dark horrors lurk in the outer corners of the latent space
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>>8237485
It doesn't matter now. Our not-naiv3.1 model will soon be baked on a cluster, and it won't really matter if naiv4 comes out of the screen and starts sucking your dick, escaping from pony with a company-tier model and having it available for local is 10 times better.
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>>8237496
>Our not-naiv3.1 model will soon be baked on a cluster
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>8237496
Insane levels of cope
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>>8237493
Is it the same tft guy?
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>>8237497
Tell little kurum to buy double the clusters to compete with local
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>>8237493
I do not understand why the AI grifters on r*ddit think it's a good idea to post their slop to "normal" subs
Surely they must realize that they will get clowned on, and not get more subscribers to their patreon slop
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>theyre still trying to compete with last years tech
have fun being another 2-3 years behind after v4
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>>8237505
what is v4
come on, tell me
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>>8237493
>3 - take commissions, only 20$ for straight forward custom images of characters I have done before.
Just 20 bux for some slop!
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>>8237496
People here felt kinda same way about aomslop till v3 sucker punched local. Not saying v4 will certainly be an insane revolution, but there's still considerable room for improvement.
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>>8237493
while this is hilariously retarded I also can't help but feel a bit worried that you or someone else went out of their way to find this.
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>>8237508
i'd pay 20 bucks to not ever see ayakonslop again
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>>8237507
uses llm + regional prompting to make things more consistent and many-characters-able
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>>8237510
>feel a bit worried that you or someone else went out of their way to find this.
Sadly I do have this morbid curiosity when it comes to looking into other posters' profiles/personas. He didn't making it any hard, considering he attaches his nickname to the filenames.
>>8237499
Yes.
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>>8237174
>>8237175
kill yourself
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>>8237509
Only thing I can see them improving is prompt adherence but they are still using tags so who knows how good that's gonna be.
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>>8237518
16ch vae, expanded but properly tagged dataset
maybe some improvement to TE but I don't know what they can do there
there's still a way to go with visual quality too
but yeah of course they might underdeliver and cook shit, making your own model is a really high-risk move
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>>8237493
Based Kon-artist braving reddit just to get shit on, lmao
Spend more than 3 seconds checking over your work next time, the issues are glaringly obvious
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>>8237493
honestly, I appreciate the entertainment value ayakon provides this way
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Inpaint chads please advise. When the AI wants to put in certain prompt-immune details no matter what, like skin folds or lazy eyes, Is the only option to fix it manually? It's easy enough to smudge and blur skin stuff out, but any img2img pass afterwards pretty much undoes everything. The eyes though I'm helpless with.
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Has Euge given any kind of timeline for his bake or is it perpetual planning stage tier?
I don't know what else we have to look forward to at this point and the only illustrious model we'll ever have access to is half baked
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>>8237529
Do the img2img pass first, then clean up the highres version. The higher resolution makes it easier to work with too, if you were to pick up a pencil. If you inpaint over your smudge/blur afterwards at very low denoise, it will hide them without changing anything else.
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>>8237533
I think he's currently just amassing K N O W L E D G E
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>>8237533
Well before christmas at least according to lax (unless I misread something, lot of esl, there)
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>>8237513
so two things that are already exist for local? lol retard
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>>8237291
>AdEMAMix8bit
lmao, why does that sounds like some new shiny optimizer shitmix
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>>8237536
So forget about it, go into a coma and hope something happened when I wake up. Got it
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>>8237550
that's basically the best mentality to have
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>>8237544
on another model architecture + automatic prompt separation for the regional prompt
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never forget we had pony for 9 months
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>>8237557
I'm gonna puke.
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>>8237557
we need to get a 9-month abortion
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>>8237557
Said it few months ago, pony will be remembered as the absolute worst period for weeb imagegen.
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We'll never get anything better than Pony for local
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what controlnets work the best on illustrious?
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>>8237579
We already do, Based64 was better than pony.
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>>8237580
idk either geting fried results with the basic canny one
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>>8237583
Bro we haven't been using canny in years.
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I NEED crazy tight lesbian pussy
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i should have been posting to twitter instead of this shithole
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>>8237589
yes, you should have, ayakon-troon-chan
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...The fuck is the nigga saying?
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>>8237589
feel like Twitter meta is to do safe-horny and not full blown 18+ and get lucky with algo/audience. I couldn't be assed after a couple weeks
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judging by "quality" of posts here, yes, post to twitter. you should get bullied by mentally challenged people there.
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im pretty out of the loop for almost everything
what is your process for upscaling? i usually hires fix 2x when i find a generation i like, manually fix the issues, then sd/ultimate sd upscale, but it seems like there must be a better way
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>>8237598
gen>upscale>inpainting fixes

I don't recommend upscaling after fixing cuz details change
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>>8237589
twitter is pretty sensitive to ai slop howeverbeit
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>>8237596
How do people post there even? Just start and account and start posting, the "algo" will bring up your posts? Or you gotta shill it for it not to be 200 subs sad shit? I actually like safe-horny sexually suggestive pics and shit like that. From what I get they don't mald about cunny too, lots of blue archive girls.
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>>8237598
I'm on comfy, so I hiresfix automatically. While it's working I look the the base gen and abort if it's bad. Manually fix issues, inpaint over my fixes then downscale to around 1080p, more won't fit on my screen anyway.
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>>8237605
When people mentioned it before they said post on R34 and link the "source" as your twitter. That way you get some follows to start with.
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>>8237605
the proper grind is to post popular current fotm on pixiv and link to twitter account, eventually you build up enough of a collection of past works that make the account seem worth following
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>>8237607
self-posting to r34 feels dumb.
also they're as draconian as /h/ jannies about funsize looking girls.
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>>8237609
less than twitter, so not really an issue in this case
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>>8237611
>less than twitter
huh? twitter is full of cunny
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Cum UI
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what is naifu?
and what's this?
https://huggingface.co/Laxhar/sdxl_noob
is this the same lax that's with euge?
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>>8237612
Wait, it is? Huh, my mistake. Must be the algo keeping them off my feed.
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>>8237312
I can try but they're kind of a gamble with me.
https://files.catbox.moe/2nua73.png
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>>8237535
Thanks, I won't be making that mistake again!
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is marigold still the best for depth estimation or is there something better now
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>>8237495
I don't know, but in my way there I gained a dozen more fetishes.
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>>8237174
Yay I made it
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I post porn here. I post my SFW stuff on pixiv. I actually find you guys to have a higher sense of aestethics than people on discord/twitter. Not to mention the effortposts some of you make. You inspire me.
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>>8237625
Yeah, as much of a shithole as this place is, its still the best place to learn how to get good gens.
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>>8237625
>I post my SFW stuff on pixiv.
you can post porn on pixiv too though? or censoring is too much of an annoyance?
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>>8237628
At times yeah, especially when sometimes the pic gets taken down being fully mosaic'd but some pics with single black bars get a pass. It's very hit and miss.
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i feel jealous when i see popular twitter profiles just sharing their pretty average aislop while and raking in views but i know i would never go through hoops of grifting and making my twatter visible
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>>8237588
I love pov shots like this, where you can see the pentration and loving eye contact at the same time
Wish I could get this animated but dont know of any AI animation sites
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>>8237631
A bit ashamed to admit that I kinda feel that too. Kinda petty.
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>>8237322
I wasnt, last I baked was 1.5
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WHY HAVE THEY NOT PUBLISHED A SINGLE VPRED PROTOTYPE YET???
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>>8237638
they don't know what they're doing, simple as
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>>8237639
They were handed a working config, weren't they?
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>>8237642
evidently not
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>had a decent gpu for months
>didn't use pony because I hated it, subbed to nai whenever I felt like prompting
>due to life circumstances stuck on nogpu laptop
>feel like I'm missing out with illustrious
gay fucking shit
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>>8237645
It's really not that good
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>>8237645
That's rough buddy, it's really that good
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>>8237507
It's v3 but without artist tags.
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>>8237647
half of the "illustrious" posts are just nai without metadata, you're missing nothing other than the shills propaganda
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>>8237651
Listen, if that's what you gotta tell yourself to sleep at night, more power to ya scizo
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>>8237638
they're getting some brainlet advice to remove tags from e621 dataset and RUN AN AUTOMATED DANBOORU TAGGER on them
>"e621 tags will burn TE"
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>>8237647
some of the pics im seeing look good to me, and even if you need to unfuck the noise with a lora or some gan upscaler it's not a deal breaker.
and first month of new shit is always the most fun even if in the long run it's underwhelming
>>8237649
:((
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>>8237652
>trust me bro
>doesn't post irrefutable proof
uh oh
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>>8237645
Gimme a prompt, I'll run one just for you, champ.
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Are we sure that sdxl_noob and the v-pred tune are the same project?
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>>8237631
"meh"
like you said, I'm not going to and don't have the want to go through the grifting hoops so I just can't care.
that and I put too much effort into stylization for any sort of mass appeal so it's a further "whatever."
>>8237642
even if they were, if you actually dig in and read the paper there is a very not insignificant amount of work put into the dataset of the korean model. Unless the guy behind it also hands over all the captions it actually hampers things a good bit.
Not to mention they'll need to cobble together code to get a proper (not completely buttfuck random) dropout method to work.
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>>8237652
it's cathagschizo. he'll literally samefag for hours
ignore
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>>8237659
Is it that hard to gran 1-2k images and run kohya bake on danbooru tags?
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>>8237657
thanks for the offer anon, but it's mostly about missing the baking and exploration phase to me.
it's not going anywhere so I'll get to it eventually, and we might have something better by that time
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What are some good settings for hr fix or deepshrink?
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Is illustrious the same one on civitai? And if it's so good where the heck is the porn?
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any good artist mixes for a painterly style on illust yet?
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>>8237668
there's no porn in korea
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>>8236850
>>8236858
https://mega.nz/folder/ctl1FYoK#BYlpywutnH4psbEcxsbLLg
added kafun. no trigger but if you want to get closer to the artstyle you can use either the artist tag at low weights combined with the lora or vice versa
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>>8237673
I saw the bake is on the 0.1 on their hugging face, is the 1.0 on civitai not the official release of it or is it better baking on the .1? Wanna try some bakes and was curious
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>>8237680
if you mean the illustrious-xl model there is no 1.0, only v0.1
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Has anybody gotten any luck with forge couple on Illustrious? For me, it switches around who is where, and details like emotions are completely wrong most of the time. Is there a trick I'm missing?
https://files.catbox.moe/z6ala0.png
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>>8237673
based
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>>8237654
It's not nai, but it's the closest thing we've gotten to it.
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>>8237645
If you are used to subbing to nai, then nothing changes for you, just sub to paperspace now!
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>>8237687
I actually helped a gpulet bro set up paperspace before for training/prompting and I think it's just a bad experience overall, waiting for gpus to pop, very low storage and having to upload loras every time
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>>8237687
>>8237692
Yea paperspace blew cock to work with. I got it set up to do gens while I didn't have a computer for a while and even paying the middle man option for "more" gpus they're never available, shit breaks randomly and then I couldn't figure out why it stopped working and gave up. Worst part was figuring out how to cancel the payments since they kept redirecting you then blasting emails with "you need to pay for this storage you're using" which you have no way of even finding or deleting stuff from the storage. Shits a scam. and a half.
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>>8237684
It's a lot more unstable than pony, but that's the model overall. I didn't run into any trouble specifically with regional prompter. (on comfy)
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workflow to proper upscale remains unknown...
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>>8237634
its unironically the same, the default suggested stuff for 1.5 is still fine. unet 1e-4, text 5e-5, a good number of steps, there are many other settings to play with but the top 2 things are making your buckets as high quality as you can - lower the min res to sdxl's min of 32, and raise the max to something big like 2048 or something; and use cosine with restarts with a value of 3-5 (number of restarts is n-1)
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what's the difference
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>>8237704
censored
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>>8237700
box?
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>>8237700
I'll try that, thanks for the suggestion
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Euge, the "1girl, standing, solo, smile, anime coloring, an extremely delicate and beautiful, japanese school uniform" guy is going to be training his next model with a goddamn furry dataset, the most degenerate, the lowest of the low. What have you done?! What have you fucking done??
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nooticing a pattern in euge's cord
>ideas guy: what if we do *dumb idea*
>Euge: that sounds amazing, how do we do it?
>ideas guy: uhhhhh
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>>8237714
please understand 99% of ai guys have never applied their theory
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>new model will get trained on furshit so we'll just have another pony
grim
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>>8237714
because everyone can identify the problems but nobody has any idea for the solutions. and it doesnt help that half the ideas are only theoretical, like 16ch vae sdxl. it's going to get slopbaked anyway, i can just tell
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>>8237716
at least it won't be hashed/censored/pruned, should be vpred, shouldn't be overbaked and hopefully without broken quality tags.
so basically without all the bad shit pony has
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Is this too /d/
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bros.. look at my magical girl
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>>8237717
What are the benefits of a 16ch VAE for SDXL?
Wouldn't there still be 4ch bottleneck somewhere in the architecture?
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>>8237723
only if the gapes were excessively large
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>>8237703
huh. Yeah pretty much what I went with back then. iirc the buckets were pre-configured that way even during 1.5
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>>8237726
more intricate details, less compression, etc. it's like sitting on 1080p monitor and upgrading to 1440p or 4k.
getting 16ch vae working on sdxl implies adjusting the architecture.
either way this task is far too big for a small group of schizos, won't happen.
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>>8237725
hey, thats me on the left!
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>>8237726
it would need a retrain, but if they actually had the 512x gpus advertised in the announcement the actual training would be trivial compared to making the architecture. the project just seems relatively unfocused but i hope something decent comes from it.
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>>8237724
gooood morning sar
please do the needful
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>>8237708
https://litter.catbox.moe/iipqcq.png
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>>8237725
Nice job as always, "oi big guy"-kun.
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>>8237725
finally i can self-insert with these new models
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>>8237732
>>8237729
OK.
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>>8237600
Hot as fuck, elfbox?
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>>8237727
Thank you saar have a galko from me
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>>8237750
Not like his pony stuff was any different in this regard:
https://archiveofsins.com/data/h/image/1724/99/1724996451283302.png
https://archiveofsins.com/data/h/image/1725/02/1725021613190808.png
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>>8237728
nah the bucket defaults are 256 min and some low max, shitsux
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>>8237759
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>>8237761
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>>8237759
>>8237761
>>8237762
1.5 slop... home...
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>>8237762
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There's no tag for shaded upskirts, right? Like where you'd have to guess whether there are panties or not.
It sometimes worked with "no panties, upskirt, convenient censoring" but not very consistent.
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>>8237763
I'm homeless I gen at the library

>>8237764
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>>8237766
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i worked tirelessly on this gen and you want me to give you a catbox? did Michelangelo just take his talent and give it to the masses?
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>>8237770
Really grasping at straws here bait-kun
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>>8237765
i think you should be able to do that by negging pussy/s really hard, no? not 100% what you mean
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I love her so much its unreal. Recommend me some other characters plis...
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>>8237770
f you were commissioned by the vatican to work on a gen for years you might have an argument

very impressive in person btw
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>>8237756
OH FUCK YES
GALKO <3
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>>8237700
Seriously nothing works good on Illustrious for seperating characters, neither forge couple nor regional prompter. We really need an alternative
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are there any ways to train a lora as a vramlet?
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>>8237762
I love how it looks like the girl was spying on them and angrily reveals herself after the brunette gets creampied
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>>8237774
Like when you prompt gaping anus and it turns into a black hole, so you can't tell if she has poop in there. But for upskirts.
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>>8237779
8gb can train sd 1.5 or sdxl, just enable gradient checkpointing, it's like magic. you can usually not do too high batch size, if you have lots of time to wait you can turn on gradient accumulation too
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>>8237768
Elsa is too fucking hot in anime style, thank you for giving her this style
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How to best upscale in forge? I'm using hires set to x1.8 with nmkdSiaxCX_200k and 0.33 denoise, but it gives me a lot worse results than it did on pony, mainly fuckups in anatomy (double navels, odd skin creases, etc).
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>>8237782
I have 6gb of vram unfortunately
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>>8237785
lowvram mode exists if you have even more time to wait

better would be to do all of the prep work and ask someone in the thread to actually bake it for you
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>>8237775
Try Yukana Yame, another gyaru girl.
There's also Ranko Honjou and Marin Kitagawa!
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someone gen galko getting blacked
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>>8237730
>>8237750
Based ojisans.
>>8237737
Oi.
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>>8237789
>Marin Kitagawa!
bros.. look at my student.
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>>8237774
>not 100% what you mean
Kinda like picrelated, maybe darker shade
but yeah I'm pretty sure there's no tag for this so whatever, can inpaint it a bit or roll gacha
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>>8237791
What magical girl is this?
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>making lora
>artists works are about 4 different lighting styles
>tag each lighting style with new made up tag
>works
interesting
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>>8237791
Why did you unsub from nai anyway. Your Kisaki was pretty cute, I was hoping she'd get plapped by big guys as well, but you only posted /e/, very disappointing...
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>>8237789
Unfortunately they dont arouse me as much as galko. Yuzu aihara is cute but she is a dyke so its over.
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>>8237790
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>>8237795
better is to take over an existing similar tag
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>>8237793
I remember I used to hoard porn of this girl and now I don't have any in 2024, Nozomi is queen
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>>8237798
i would have recommended oriko from giant ojou-sama but... <50 images on dan
maybe luviagelita?
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well i guess that is 2girls
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>>8237798
>Yuzu aihara is cute but she is a dyke so its over.
Its up to you to make convert cute lesbians to dick
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>>8237805
awww
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>>8237805
I love this, I kinda wanna img2img it so I can make the guy look like me
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>>8237802
>I remember I used to hoard porn of this girl
Same. Now I barely look at exhentai/boorus, I just prompt...
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AAAAAHH

I can't make JK-BlushySpicy-YD-CSR-Redrop_mix work.

What are the key words?
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>>8237813
>pony
Anon? Did you mean to try that with illu?
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>>8237811
>Now I barely look at exhentai/boorus, I just prompt...
Too real... Even with how shit slop can get at times, it's better than most artists. And the actually good ones are stuck drawing hyper popular things with normie appeal to make money
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>>8237811
That's the appeal of stablediffusion for me, to commission a regular artist to make new nozomi it would cost around $80-100 a piece, but now you can test out so many different ideas and poses for free
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>>8237814
Wait, it doesn't work on pony?
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>>8237819
deliberately hashed artist tags is one of the main sources of hatred towards pony. welcome newfren
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Nagatoro is cute too. Galko and nagatoro are basically the godsent gyarus for me...
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>>8237825
Do you prefer light or dark skin galko?
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>>8237821
Fuck, what other options you recommend?
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>>8237826
Doesnt matter. Galko is galko for me
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>>8237819
there's a lora, some of those artists do not work with just a prompt
also, every mix always looks different on each base model
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>>8237827
either get the lora named after that slopper or try that on https://civitai.com/models/795765/illustrious-xl
I also suggest you to try something other than this overused slopmix

also {{}} is nai-only syntax
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>>8237827
lurk so you dont look like a fuckin moron
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>>8237828
>Blushy galko
Fuck yes
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Guess it's fine to go back sometimes
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>>8237833
Heaven, please sing for me a song of life
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>>8237778
Oh my, so sexy, more plz
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>>8237174
The oversize sleeve hj box please
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>>8237207
wan wan?!
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>>8237174
The person who made that sleeved handjob scene has my thanks
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>didn't make it into the hi-lights
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>>8237701
hiresfix
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>>8237794
Mine.
>>8237796
I'm still subbed. Unfortunately, I started catching vacations for Kisaki so I had to switch to questionable.
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>>8237843
>has my thanks
hehe
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>>8237845
A couple days ago, I had like 3 in the highlights, a thread ago 0, this time 1, it varies
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>>8237724
Hyper goes to /d/
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kill highlightertard
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>>8237725
This is super hot, I'm just imagining him doing nasty groans as his bare dick explores her gorgeous pristine pussy, experiencing the tightness of a slut society says he doesn't deserve
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>>8237828
I am down bad for white blonde bitches i guess. If they are gyarus too i am in space
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>>8237854
society is correct
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>>8237857
Strangely enough, because the dude is so ugly the girl feels so much hotter in the pic when compared side to side
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>>8237857
Don't worry, he paid for the date.
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>>8237855
Peach is always a win, I'm glad I live in a future where I can get all the peach hentai I desire
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>>8237847
do one in haruyama kazunori style please, anon
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>ran out of nai gib account points that I used for inpaints
Hacker-sama...
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>>8237862
Not like there was a lack of it in the first place
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i don't understand princess peach obsession but i guess that's because i preferred sony games during childhood
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>>8237869
She is the perfect woman: cute airhead bimbo with big tits and lots of wealth.
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>>8237869
who is the hottest sony girl iyo? I'm fond of Tifa but Lulu is top tier
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>>8237869
I didn't see gachawhores until I was already a man, by then they were nothing to me but disgusting!
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>>8237871
I meant kid games, I didn't play nintendo at all, but played a lot of games like crash bandicoot, spyro and other ps1 shit. i liked coco bandicoot but thank allah did not end up as furry
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Yor Forger
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>pov, 1bed
>ahh im gooning!
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>nogen
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>>8237872
i don't play any gacha, but gacha sluts are the best thing that happened to hentai
you can choose design up to your taste and there will be lots of pictures and doujins
but most importantly it ended the 2hu hellhole
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>>8237882
I like mixing my touhoes and my gachasluts
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>>8237882
>it ended the 2hu hellhole
kill yourself
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>>8237882
Damn if there was ever a bad take championship, you would take the crown.
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>>8237884
>>8237885
Now tell him why he's wrong without sounding mad
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>>8237869
She is the embodiment of sex...
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>>8237588
interesting artstyle, what artist make those eyes?
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>>8237884
>>8237885
how many more decades do you want to watch the same characters taking cock?
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>>8237588
which character is this?
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>>8237725
>>8237791
>>8237847
There is nothing purer than the love between a cute girl and an old man three to five times her age.
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>jpeg groid
yawn
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>>8237890
I am faithful to my wife until the end of my life, she isn't some passing fad. I wonder where we went wrong to end up with this generation of FotM zoomer coomers.
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>>8237906
>everybody with whom i disagree is the tiktok zoomer
not so long ago bulk of h pictures on boorus and doujins were either touhou or kancolle, but having variety is a bad thing, i suppose
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>>8237906
nothing wrong with cooming to gacha whores but I don't understand people who play gachas
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>>8237869
bimbos are gross
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>>8237906
boomer fandom
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>>8237911
>>8237913
Now where did I say "old thing good new thing bad"? It's a matter of some people having strong attachment to older characters. You can coom to whatever you want but don't diss older stuff just for not being FotM, that's retarded.
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>>8237917
2hoe isn't bad because it's old, it's bad because it's 2hoe
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>>8237917
>Now where did I say "old thing good new thing bad"?
>I wonder where we went wrong to end up with this generation of FotM zoomer coomers.
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>>8237917
i hate touhoufags guts because 90% of /jp/ is just different flavors of touhou ERP
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pony knows Galko btw. I don't even know what her full name is so I just wrote it like that
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>Pissed at illu always making small anatomical mistakes
>go to look at real art
mfw it's just as fucked up
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>>8237878
so erotic...
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>>8237934
wow it looks so soft...
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>>8237934
girly, pink themed bedroom would be unironically erotic
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>>8237932
obviously
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>>8237934
>poor tv literally melted
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>>8237932
wait till you see how the "artifacts" are actually style choices
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=yanyan_%28shinken_gomi%29&z=1
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>>8237932
This is something that I think a lot of people forget, traditional hentai is shit too
>>8237934
Ayakon... fix your lights...
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>>8237941
that looks like shit

anyway, the artifacts people are talking about in illu are jaggies from bad scaling in the dataset
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>>8237946
illust has both jaggies/scratchy lines and what seem like compression/chromatic artifacts. the former could be due to poor scaling, but lanczos doesn't really shred lines like that so I don't totally buy that being the reason since its soft for downscaling. it's more likely a lot of comics and sketches didn't get pruned which did for NAI. the compression artifacts seem to be a universal issue as evidenced by the NAI paper, they trained a custom VAE to alleviate it but I don't know if local have the resources for that.
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>>8237946
>bad scaling in the dataset
what does that actually mean?
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>>8237951
they only trained the decoder and probably not from scratch
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oh no non o no
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>>8237973
yeah i think its probably the same team as for this
https://www.liblib.art/modelinfo/87e2cc2169934523a2ff82fb12e7206b
guess they gave up on it and are looking for help from other groups
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>>8237973
god i hate neggels so much it's unreal
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>>8237973
please no do not let the discordtards co-opt euge's project
they have literally nothing to show
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>>8237973
Someone knowledgeable really need to put together that document on how incompetent niggles and his band of troons are, so that we can spam it on Euge's server and save him from the impeding doom
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>>8237973
didn't somebody here say they were planning on compiling a bunch of evidence of how much of an incompetent retard neggles is to show it to euge? that might be the only thing that saves this project from being co-opted by troons...
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>>8237973
that EPIC guy is definitely their insider man, shilling the wd shit
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>>8237989
no he's just an underage retard
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>>8237989
i mean you don't need insiders when the whole team of wd troons invaded euge's discord already
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>>8237953
actual image scaling used for standardizing the dimensions of training images in the dataset. even better interpolation methods like lanczos are still noticeably depending on the image and how much you're scaling it by, and this is apparently what caused the issues with the illustrious dataset since it seems like they basically dumped all of danbooru in it.
you can probably avoid this with whatever multi resolution training is but idk if that works with sdxl
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>>8237989
THEY LITERALLY JUST WANT EUGE'S HARDWARE
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>zero (you)s on clean upscaled gen
>immediate 6 (you)s on a trooncord drama screencap
this really says a lot about our society
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>>8237993
is there no hope for local? why does every somewhat promising project instantly get taken over by incompetent troons?
grim
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>>8237994
i can gen myself
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>>8237994
Is this "clean" gen in the room with us right now?
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>>8237994
>expecting any response to gens in this shithole
KEKAROO
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jordach is the only one who'd make use of the compute and deep inside you know it's true. we'd have epoch 90 by now. the only flaw of cascade is that he can't experiment fast enough
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>>8238003
i remember someone calling my gens "sexy"
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>>8237994
Sorry, the future of local is just more interesting to me. But if someone effort posts more young magical girls plapped by ugly bastards I'll find time to give them (You) as well.
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>>8237994
This one? >>8237957
Sorry not very fond of this concept nor the style but that doesn't mean I think is a bad gen
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>>8238004
you are a fucking troon for spamming the same boring shitpost garbage every single time
jordach gave up on cascade already (at least base cascade, that's why he plans for a 2b proto) and is actually seriously considering sdxl lately so tbqh he would use that amount of compute just to bake on sdxl to give the people a model asap first and after that maybe start doing crazy and probably unusable shit like 1.5 testing or sum crap like that
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Does anyone know any tags for illu or pony that increase the detail of areolae and nipples? I know of 'glands of montgomery' but that's all. Here are some examples of what I mean, spotty or wrinkled.

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5210090
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5457821
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4658538
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/3976293
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>>8237994
It's easier to point out flaws than to give compliments. I rarely comment on something I like, but I do complain about something I don't.
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>>8238016
Inpaint them at close enough area so they get more detail using artists that draw these details often.
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>>8238019
yeah this
people who bother to post compliments are the real MVPs of these threads, kinda wish we had a few of those rule34 coomers here
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>>8238016
Nope, just artists. Other than nagato yuki which you linked, try these:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7806485
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7507673
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alright my honeymoon period is over, illustrious is cool but severely lacking in aesthetic. wake me up when nai leaks or local gets their shit together.
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>>8238022
there should be a balance between coomer comments and reasonable discussion
certainly no need to turn this into roleplay chatroom but this general became too dry and jaded for a porn thread
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>>8238022
I would prefer more constructive praise/criticism. But it's for sure better than nothing.
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>>8238025
>this general became too dry and jaded for a porn thread
I think because we are overly exposed to virtually any kind of porn out there, we have seen everything so it doesn't excite us that much anymore unless it's something super specific that we like
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>>8238026
when that critic guy tried everyone shat on him to stop kek
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>>8238011
idk but i posted that gen and i never expect yous, im not such a bitch to complain about it
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>>8238031
I figure that's mostly because of the mass replying and how artificial it felt. Not like you notice something in a gen and comment on it, more like he had to fill a quota of 3-4 points for every image and an E-A rating.
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>>8238021
Oh of course, I feel super dumb not thinking of that. I'll combine that with the suggestions from >>8238023
Thank you both.
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>>8237934
>>8238031
>>8238026
You want me back? :) I'll be happy to provide some constructive criticism, and give recommendations to what and how you can improve your images.
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>>8238047
How can I improve my upscales, senpai? hiresfix sucks, controlnet is a pain in forge and i don't understand deepshrink
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>>8238047
Yes, I think it was great. Mass replying did make it look like shitposts kinda but the seething was probably due to being criticized. This is miles better than the shitty highlights.
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>>8238047
i don't, please return to where you came from
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>>8238047
The mass replying was a bit odd but it's better than nothing
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what have we learned from this thread?
touhou hate is a sign if terminal zoomieness
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>>8238061
that doesnt make any sense, zoomers were not on 4chan when 2hus were everywhere
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>>8238061
kek, still seething? thanks for reminding me why i don't like this fanbase
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Someone redpill lax about neggles in chinese. He'll believe one of his own
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>>8238070
we really do need to protect the chinese from the troons
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>>8236638
>>8236639
Nope (though I'll definitely give Illustrious a try as soon as I can)
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>>8238068
fr
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wow euge dropped another bombshell
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>>8238068
on god bro no cap
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>>8238075
>no screenshot
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Euge just laid down the law, troons in shambles
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>>8237906
>I wonder where we went wrong to end up with this generation of FotM zoomer coomers.
Social media + cooming = fried dopamine receptors.
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>>8238081
One week with 512 H100s, not bad
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>>8238081
>it's real
Well it's good to know that there's already an established team so that troonies can't weasel their way in but also
>If this were my personal project, I could afford the time to experiment with all sorts of interesting ideas, but we only have about a week at full capacity, and the project must be flawless. Any mistake could be fatal.
THEY WILL BAKE A MODEL IN A WEEK?
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>>8238073
slopmoura is shoebill confirmed, cope
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>>8238083
cumming to 2hus is the best dopamine detox and that's why mental health is flourishing in this fanbase
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>>8238081
>Once the final model is released, everyone who has provided useful suggestions will be included in the special thanks section
Will we see any anons in the credits
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>>8238090
fr ong
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>>8238089
No, I'm not Momoura. Thank FUCK I'm not Momoura.
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>>8238081
told you fuckers >>8235794 >>8235810
they dont just have 512x GPUs sitting around. the compute vultures like neggles got excited thinking it was going to be a field day for playing around with experiments. they have a single shot at this and if it's fucked it's fucked. they don't have the NAI privilege of having months to toy around with h100s all day
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>the chinese patriots are in control
Thank god
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>>8238090
cumming IN 2hus**
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>>8238088
512 h100s is a lot. that's probably like at least two or three full resonance epochs.
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>>8238097
lax is running tests right now tho? they have 1 shot at the full bake, but can still test stuff on a smaller scale.
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>>8238102
Will a week be enough for experimentation though? I've honestly no idea how fast 512 of those would be
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>>8238088
They have consistent access to 32 h100s for testing, but the 512 will be for the full run is my understanding
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>>8237676
i love this style, more?
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>>8238105
32 h100s 'for testing' is still WAY more than illustrious used, and far more than any other local baker. that would be considered more than enough for a full bake for any local project
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>>8238103
its enough to test minor things, but 'in theory...', 'hypothetically...' faggots need to stay far away or risk blowing up the project with some experimental shit like 16ch vae. they need to stick to the basics and just combine the best of NAI3 and Illustrious. i would like an ideal perfect sdxl frankenmodel but it's just not realistic especially when you consider that this will be their first real bake
>>8238104
no. every hour that goes by is like, 2 epochs gone. they don't have time to fuck around with random unproven shit on the 512x. the 512x is fast enough to quite literally train NAI3 in a week. NAI3 was trained on 256x h100s in two weeks. assuming the scaling limit isn't hit.
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>>8238119
> just combine the best of NAI3 and Illustrious
And get pony in result?
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>>8238119
Imagine how many more NAIs they could've trained since, had there been any serious competition.
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>>8238120
Kek
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>>8238120
e621 sexy knowledge is already confirmed!
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>>8238120
If that were true you could just block subtract illustrious from pony and get NAI
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>>8238124
e621 is 1/32 of the dataset
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>>8238126
Have you tried?
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>>8238119
problem is that the 4ch vae is hard bottlenecking everything and the theoretical best case is at most naiv3 level
'next gen' architectures will probably start releasing soon so this will kinda be already in the past
though of course if they do the work on the dataset they could hopefully just bake this and then hit the train button again later on the next meme
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>>8238127
How big is the dataset now? Exactly what is in it?
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a reminder to all 2hu-hating zoomies
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>>8238130
>How big is the dataset now
16m images according to lax
>Exactly what is in it?
No clue, euge only mentioned the ratio of e621
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>>8238119
>combine the best of NAI3 and Illustrious
lol there isn't a single thing that gooknai has over nai3 (besides a newer dataset but that goes without saying)
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>>8238133
Interesting, thanks
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I really don't care about the slight improvement that this could potentially have over illu. Expecting anything more is unrealistic, i know, but it's still disappointing compared to the general imagen sota.
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>>8238129
You don't know if 2.6B SDXL unet is enough parameters to effectively utilize 16ch vae. It may require scaling up the whole architecture to compensate for the extra detail and training it as it is will just result in a failed bake and lost opportunity to get at least something (4ch nai equivalent).
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>>8238138
good morning saar
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>>8238129
i agree, but they've stated that they want to do SDXL with vpred for this project and already they asked for help with vpred. an experimental 16ch rebake is far outside the scope. i think that if the project is a success they will get enough attention to apply for more, especially with 32x h100s working already.
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bro just inpaint the details, who needs 16ch vae
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>>8238139
yeah i dont mean to want to push them to definitely attempt to use 16ch vae, its just that the situation for baking now kinda sucks
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>>8238138
Even at his current slightly dogshit state, I can easily see myself using Illus for months, if we get something just a little better overall out of all of this, it's still a win
Total pony death
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>>8238142
Can't inpaint what the model didn't learn
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>>8238047
critique every gen in this thread right now
(or every gen you think isnt good)
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>>8238139
I really should proofread my messages more, this is barely coherent and can easily be misunderstood.
>training it as it
I meant training with 16ch VAE but without scaling the unet.
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>>8238136
The only based poster left
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2hoes go to /b/
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>>8238162
holy sexy
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>>8238162
box please
I want to rape her
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>>8238172
that's a nice composition, did you get the phone by RNG?
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>>8238173
prompt best quality maxxing
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I plan to use a complex tag randomization algorithm during traintime. For a caption, the algorithm processes it in the following steps:

There is a 10% probability to leave the entire annotation blank and return;
Each tag has a 50% probability of being discarded;
If the creation date of the data is later than 2019, the artist tag is assigned in the format of "by {artist}". The artist tag is then placed at the end of the caption.
(Each) a certain probability to assign a character tag in the format of "1 {character}". The character tag is placed at the beginning of all tags. The probability of assigning depends on the rarity of the character. The rarer the character, the higher the probability.
If a character tag is assigned, there is a probability to discard the core feature tags of the character.
For each assigned character tag, there is a 50% probability to assign the corresponding copyright tag. The copyright tag is located immediately after the character tag.
(Each) 50% probability to assign a meta tag. The meta tag is placed at the end of all tags.
Quality tags are assigned based on the aesthetic score and the corresponding probability. Low quality tags is 100%. Quality tags are placed at the end of all tags.
Year tags and decade tags are assigned based on the creation date.
Each tag has a 50% probability of being classified as a "shuffled tag", and all "shuffled tags" have a 50% probability of being randomly shuffled.

All the specific probability is determined by humans.
-euge
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>>8238175
KEK
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>>8238119
>just combine the best of NAI3 and Illustrious
So WDV? You can hate on neggles for over promising and not delivering, but the idea and plans behind it are good. Euge and rest of the team literally doing the exact same thing now they got advice from people which makes me very skeptical about the success of this project. Those guys didn't even test if kohya works properly lol.
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>>8238172
https://files.catbox.moe/z2fesf.png
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So, we're getting homemade NAIv3 but for local and delivered by Euge and friends? Tbqh I don't like the idea of literally getting NAIv3. The model is completely lobotomized on purpose so it doesn't really understands natural language and only works around tags. It's something I really hate about NAI. It only works using booru tags, which doesn't let you prompt for kinda specific things because danbooru tag system is horrible. Even illustrious isn't as overfitted as NAI, it kinda Is able to understand some NL. Is Euge doing something at least special to the dataset so it doesn't become as stiff as NAI in that sense?
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>>8238181
https://files.catbox.moe/68gqhp.png
mb this was the box after face inpainting
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>>8238081
>>8238183
What's the back story behind this? Are they basing it on that paper NAI released?
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>>8238180
kohya doesn't work properly for vpred training, that's why niggles had to write a completely new trainer. it seemingly breaks after a certain amount of time and every local trainer is retarded so nobody's actually tested it robustly enough to fix the bug.
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>>8238183
local nai3 is what we've all been praying for in the last 11 months, shut the fuck up
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>>8238183
Yeah it's annoying how much people put NAI on a pedestal, the quality is good obviously but the prompt adherence on that model is just terrible. That being said they are on a limited time so not much way to experiment on some new training method so might as well do something that at least proven to give something workable.
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>>8238189
>we
I didn't
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>>8238183
Guess you're just gonna have to wait for pony v7 then
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>>8238183
>The model is completely lobotomized on purpose so it doesn't really understands natural language and only works around tags. It's something I really hate about NAI. It only works using booru tags, which doesn't let you prompt for kinda specific things because danbooru tag system is horrible.
GOOD MORNING SAAAAAAR
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>>8238185
>>8238181
I will come to your house and french kiss you,

thank you for the box
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>>8238193
can't wait for astralite "I don't know what network dropout is" heart to have his model flop because he has zero technical knowledge and is only supported for bruteforcing a porn finetune of sdxl
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>>8238180
maybe the reason he didnt ever deliver is because all he has are ideas and plans? if wdv stopped inbetween 'idea' and 'result', then the issue lies somewhere in the implementation of the idea. so either neggles had no idea what the fuck he was doing, or the idea was simply too complicated and time consuming that not even he could be bothered with it.
all neggles and yoinked have done is beg for compute. neggles made a huge embarrassing posts about how he would mog jordach with his flux compute, and then amounted to doing nothing with it. if he stopped yapping about his shitty ideas and just trained on a single 4090 then maybe low-tier sponsors would be more willing to engage with him. the few runs he did do of wdv were broken and half-implemented thanks to his buggy trainer code. the last thing this project needs is neggles fucking up the 1 week they have to bake the final model.
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>>8238196
If anything it'll flop because auraflow is much more hardware intensive to run than sdxl
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>>8238183
Imagine having any hopes for this model after seeing how clueless the team behind it are in their discord. They even had to bait people with access to compute to get advise.
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>>8238119
>its enough to test minor things
fucker, are 32 h100s few for you already?
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>>8238196
t bh I wouldn't expect anyone in the AI space to be successful twice. Every good model so far has been a fluke, and the baker ends up thinking it was their amazing intuition and they can't go wrong on the next one.
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>>8238197
>please please please give us compute pleeeasee
god i hate these fucking roaches so much
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>>8238197
epic is literally a jeet retard wtf, he really doesnt shut up there
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>>8238197
>so either neggles had no idea what the fuck he was doing, or the idea was simply too complicated and time consuming that not even he could be bothered with it.
Neggles keeps getting fucked with compute, that's your answer. 11labs gave them like week of compute so he changed to BFL which provided them with like 3 weeks of it and he was fired because BFL got sponsored by Elon so no need for their own GPU nodes which is neggles job. And if you can get job at such places, you are also a busy person. That's why there are almost zero people with compute in image gen space that are knowledgeable to train such model.
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>>8238205
okay but what are you gonna DO about it? also why are these wdv niggers so uppity, from my understanding they don't even have a fully prepared dataset to bake.
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Funny how localoids keep seething about troons ruining their model here, but not a single one has enough balls to do something about it.
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>>8238210
>>8238211
good morning shitstirrer saar
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>>8238180
>So WDV? You can hate on neggles for over promising and not delivering, but the idea and plans behind it are good.
He had to restart every single time because something was wrong with the code again and again, and neggles is such a lazy fucking troon he couldn't make himself work on it for more than 15 minutes a day so naturally he lost compute opportunity before baking anything.
How do you know everything is perfect with their code now? Did they tell you that? Because I bet if you give them compute now it will fail again.
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Thread is getting shit again. Wish there was some way to set an email notification for when the model is baked.
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>>8238209
Alright, neggles, go back to dilate and come back once you've trained a model that can at least surpass jordachs fried 1b model.
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>made a discord server with some anons from here like 2 years ago
>just found one one of them trooned out and has a patreon where he posts ai groidslop ntr
i am beyond disgusted
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>>8238209
>if you can get job at such places, you are also a busy person
neggles was a neet for a year before being hired by BFL lol
kill yourself back to the wd discord troon apologist
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>>8238216
Then post something, no-genner

Nai refuses to get Gendo's glasses right
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>a bunch of H100s
>for a week
Is there any way to extend that? I'll be real, I'd donate if it meant them being able to figure shit out
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>>8238221
kek
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>>8238201
they're already using them to test bakes, and they're still trying to figure out vpred. lax stated that he doesn't want to do to much experimentation this project:
>At this stage, we may need advice on training planning, and Q&A on code, and after the minimum goals of the project are met, we can do some experimentation and exploration together
>cause we are also operating H100 GPUs for the first time, and in such large quantities. hope to be better able to explore research directions of interest with all of you
>If u mean 32*H100 GPUs, it’s already using by my team. And if u mean 512*H100 GPUs,we need a persuasive report to apply and very likely to be awarded, as long as the program is viable
and as Euge said,
>I could afford the time to experiment with all sorts of interesting ideas, but we only have about a week at full capacity, and the project must be flawless. Any mistake could be fatal.
they're making the smart choice of implementing the bare-minimum NAI training settings (which every local baker so far has failed at) before trying out theoretical schizoshit like 16ch conversion. it's simply too much for the project currently, especially when half the people suggesting this stuff have zero idea how to even implement it themselves.
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>>8238224
That's like 200K worth of compute. Doubt donations could expand that by a meaningful amount. Honestly don't know why they'd even need so much compute for a sdxl finetune. Sure, nai did it, but they're retarded.
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>>8238226
yes, it's rigtht decision
but you sounded like "512 h100s or no go"
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>>8238228
>but they're retarded
lol the grapes are still sour
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>>8238207
where did that retard even come from anyways? he's not even in the 2hu ai discord, only in euge's and jordach's
i wouldn't be surprised if he's a shitposter from this thread trying his hardest to ruin euge's model as a joke. i fucking hate zoomers man
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>>8238224
they've had a 32xh100 rig for 2 months so far. it seems to scale with the project. their sponsor isn't going to lend them the full 512xh100 just to run tests on, but once they are ready they can apply for the final rul.
Q:
>Should we aim at "one perfect" training run, i.e. be maximum conservative in techniques and approaches, don't experiment? Or do we have a possibilities to apply "trial and error" approach?
A:
>The latter is a better format, and in fact other of our earlier tasks submitted similar program documents. our current test task documentation has been submitted to the sponsor, but it is in Chinese so it may not be so easy to understand, you can also refer to other models to release the form of documentation. a typical document containing 1. requirement cardinality and timing 2. dataset 3. substrate and parameters 4. code 5. evaluation metrics 6. test basis 7. timeline and so on, like those reports you come across elsewhere
>>8238229
its a no go for 16ch simply because it's not that simple and has only really been talked about in theory and they are already using the hardware to test other things. the way lax worded the stuff i posted above makes is sound like they'd be interested in doing more experimenting later or in a future project. i hope (cope) by then we'll have better 16ch models anyway like perhaps the new pixart. sdxl is becoming ancient and all the copium patchwork done to it has already surpassed 1.5
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>>8238214
Yes, code of the trainer, not the idea. And the only part of code the alpha model didn't have was the TE training. Where are the other kohya alternatives of jordach/euge/angel? I would trust WDV team more than euge who doesn't even bother to check if the kohya code works, has to resort to baiting people with compute just to say it was a prank because he only wanted free advice from smarter people.
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>>8238234
he used to be on touhou discord before and he's an actual unironic pajeet
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if the euge model dataset isnt at least from august of this year im gonna shit myself to death
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>>8238236
jordach coded his own trainer from scratch so that's not even a good example
please kill yourself out of this thread yoinked/trauter
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have any of the WD models ever been good? i never used any of them myself
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Which one of you is this
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>>8238238
it's an up to date scrape of rule34.xxx without removing ai generated posts
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>>8238242
me :)
yoinked sounds like a fag
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>>8238235
You glued together different question and answer though. Answer that you cited is LAX talking about experiment submission format (he want such submission to look like report)
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>>8238244
doing god's work anon, please don't stop
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>>8238240
wd 1.2 was good for the time, being that it was pre-nai. that was sept 2022. everything after that was complete shit.
and the original team for wd 1.2 doesn't even work on it anymore, they got hired for midjourney or something. the name is just cursed at this point
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>>8238242
Based. I don't know much about wd team but the begging was getting annoying.
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why so much seethe over a couple collages each thread?
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>>8238222
>NEET that somehow got job at 11labs and BFL
I'm struggling to see your logic here.
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>>8238226
someone in ldg is trying it btw, but on customized 1b pixart, guess we might see how it goes somewhat
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>>8238242
god I am so happy L-A-X btfo'd them and basically said "get QQ lol, get a PHD lol, become Chinese lol"
based motherfucker
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>>8238254
Never understood why anons were acting like they would give over control to them anyway, it's legit just a discord to get free advice.
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>>8238251
neet doesnt always mean unemployable 4chan dweller that has been at it for 15 years
he was indeed a neet
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>>8238239
Maybe instead of writing code for the trainer and abusing his poor single rtx card he should go and get a job which could provide him compute
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>>8238245
is it not the same related question chain? they submitted an experiment form for the 32x for 2+ months, and will need to submit another for 512x for 1 week. so they can do trial-and-error with the 32x and then the final 'perfect' run on the 512x. am i missing something?
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https://civitai.com/models/818750?modelVersionId=915538
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>>8238247
makes sense why no one wants them to get into this project then
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>>8238259
good morning, bluvollsirs
can it do yd?
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>>8238261
Not bluvoll, but please look here sir
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lDO-MKov4oI01WnFxDfXOfLl-mWm-qJ_qhSlqfL5ywg/edit?gid=0#gid=0
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>>8238259
can i request artists for the next version
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>anons calling troons and their overlord dumb and nothing about them is worth listening to
>Euge and other are doing almost exact same things as them and following their steps and advice.
so funny
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>>8238259
I'll test it out but ngl colors looked washed on most of those, so I don't know.
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>>8238271
is there anyone in the community this thread generally actually respects? maybe lodestone, begrudgingly since his focus isn't anime?
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>>8238274
nochekaiser
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>>8238274
euge
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>>8238260
i dont want to insult neggles too much because i do appreciate people trying to bake, even astrasaar. but its really a case of "tripping up the stairs". neggles can work at 11labs, bfl, go to ml conferences, but cant find a single connection to even borrow 8xa100s from? even treesir was able to get compute from amazon. it's just pathetic him constantly talking about his idea for wdv every time a new project pops up, with still no actual model to prove his theory. illustrious and now this, you have neggles and yoinked in the background going "btw wdv!" for literally a year now.
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>>8238255
it's because they are so pushy about it, people like that always try to worm their way in and take over. if strong boundaries are not put in place, those kind of people are the type who rot FOSS projects from the inside out - big red flag to anyone who has seen it before
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>>8238287
lol godot reference
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>>8238153
nice hag, catbox?
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>>8238197
That jeet used to have really shitty takes in the Cuckdach trooncord. Anything that comes out of that guy's mouth is immediately a "you should think/do the exact opposite" scenario.
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>>8238289
one of many sad tales
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>>8238274
troongles lost support of this thread when he pruned loli. Even him having a rotting flesh wound wouldn't be enough to give him this much hate compared to that one retarded decision.
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Any good prompts for captions?
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>find picture i really like
>saucenao it/find artist
>only one picture done in that style
pain
need 1 picture loras
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>>8238295
I don't care about danbooru gold shit, I hate him because he's an abomination against god
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>>8238295
he lost any lingering support (he never had much support to begin with) when he came here and started insinuating the thread was full of "eggs" and pushing troon ideology immediately. coincidentally he got fired from BFL almost immediately after. fancy that!
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why did euge/lax/chenkin ditch hunyuan and go back to XL? was hunyuan deemed a failure? too expensive?
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>>8238301
I have no idea on their reasoning but after trying hunyuan more I'm kind of glad they didn't. even with 24gb vram the amount of steps hunyuan needs to produce a quality image just takes way too long. it has a lot of potential and maybe a finetune would help fix that issue, but I expect tencent to still come up with a lot better
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>>8238271
what advice from neggles have they taken? doing vpred is literally the first thing anybody would have told them anyways. all neggles has done in that server is beg them for compute so he can "blow nai out of the water" (lol)
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>>8238259
we fucking hit gold lads
https://files.catbox.moe/4xsc7o.png
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>>8238300
are you implying BFL guys lurk this thread?
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>>8238310
we're so back
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>>8238310
I want to see that face without feet covering it. I bet it would give me nightmares for a week.
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>>8238310
lmaaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooo!!!!!!
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>>8238312
everyone with any cred in the ai world lurks here
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>>8238312
Stability guys live on 4chan so don't see why BFL would be any different.
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>>8238259
this retard finally baked something good at last or it's not even worth to download?
>>8238310
kek
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>>8238259
alright lets see
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>>8238310
the chingchong ping ling style is way stronger than on base. might be a good ft for doing style mixing shenanigans.
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we need a euge-chan character design
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>prompt sakimichan as a joke
>instant regret and disgust
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Hentai general on 4chins, the leading forefront vanguard in AI research that will change the world
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has angel said anything more about what the company is doing now? they released 0.1 yet STILL don't have a saas implemented, despite the future models apparently being saas only. they could've used the release to gain traction but completely missed that opportunity. what is their endgame?
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>all the acoshitters use cumrag
just a coincidence im sure
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>>8238332
The joke's on you
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>>8238336
they have no endgame, nobody in that company has any idea what they're doing and how to get money. the only reason they even exist is because of grants by the korean government
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>managed to shrink negs to 8 tags
>only one artist tag
>no quality tags in prompt
>no lora
>euler a
>still get coherent outputs
sasuga bluvoll
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>>8238341
you could do that on base illustrious
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>>8238336
angel is probably gonna be pretty tight lipped about anything regarding releases or the company for a bit after getting chewed out
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>installed https://github.com/catboxanon/comfyui_stealth_pnginfo.git
>the node is there
>Unable to find workflow in file.png
What gives? Where's my
>allows drag-dropping images with stealth metadata embedded to load their workflow
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lucene pretty cool
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>>8238259
this is something i noticed in pony/mixes as well, but is there a reason that these areas seem to be common 'burn spots', adding a bright highlight in a spot that should normally be equal or darker in shading?
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I'm really hyped about Euge-chan but I miss the simpler times when we would post images

:(
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>>8238318 >>8238259
Testing on out of dataset artists.
I'm getting this kind of smudged stuff in the background with shion \(mirudakemann\). It was fine in illustrious.
haguhagu also got weaker, also I'm getting simple backgrounds unprompted instead of nice pleasant picturesque stuff I was getting before.
My conclusion: out of dataset styles got worse.
And since I'm not interested in using artist selection collected by aesthetically blind hag lover:
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>>8238336
I honestly don't see why they are having so much issue. Just charge less than NAI and release a similar SAAS (with the safety switch thingy). There is a big market for sfw AI image gen considering how well MJ is doing.
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>>8238351
Then post images? fucking 'tard
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>>8238355
I'm gpu poor

:(
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>>8238350
you can see it here too, on base illustrious
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>>8238336
They're too busy enjoying seeing NAI crumbling apart.
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>>8238356
repost you favorite images and post something like "more like this pls"
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Just trying out things.
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>>8238339
korean government: I guess we doin drawn porn now
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>>8238356
please refrain from posting until you are able to post more pictures than text
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>>8238358
freetards forgot that less than 24 hours remain until kurumuz reveals v4
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>>8238332
Hows my sakimichan? Took a bit of photoshop but I think it's pretty faithful
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can someone help with why my comfy WF is outputting just shit colored noise? is there a specific VAE I'm supposed to use?
WF: https://files.catbox.moe/2oozu0.json
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>>8238365
I won't ask
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>>8238259
>failed bakie attempts a proper fine-tune
>it's slop
to the surprise of absolutely no one
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>>8238365
less blur more smudge
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>>8238336
He's on sick leave
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>>8238366
what the fuck is promptcontrolsimple? have you tried using just the normal default nodes first?
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>>8238364
Better have a 16ch vae or it's literally over for them
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>>8238366
you dont need to load a separate vae just use the one from load model
and as other anon said just use the individual clip text encode boxes instead of whatever slop that is
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>>8238365
its pretty blurry and the hands could use more work but it looks good otherwise
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>>8238366
Use standard nodes instead of those prompt control and image save things, at least when debugging.
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>>8238365
if only we had a proper implementation of SMEAr locally you'd be able to fully capture sakimichan's breathtaking style
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im slopping like some of you could never comprehend...
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>>8238382
i vomited
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anons are you ready to spend over 3000 bucks for a space heater?
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>>8238382
get on my level
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>>8238382
now post one of your gens
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>>8238385
No, but I'll keep an eye on used 4090 prices
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>>8238389
>used 4090
Can you still get a post-mining junk now?
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>>8238388
there's two in this thread....
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>>8238388
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>>8238394
sovl...
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>>8238394
COMFY G O D
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>>8238389
tough shit lol, 4090 production ended and there's been a price hike for new (and eventually used) cards
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>>8238392
Oh... I didn't know it was you.... well, eh, zased?
>>8237236
>>8237394
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>>8238259
very good preview mister bluvoll
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>>8238399
i regret to inform you those masterpieces are not my gens
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>>8238401
Ah right, my bad, must be
>>8238273
>>8238276
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>>8238397
They'll drop once the 5090 releases. Smart thing would be to sell my 3090 now and lay low with a nai sub.
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>>8238403
one last try big man...
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>>8238372
>>8238375
https://github.com/asagi4/comfyui-prompt-control
looks like it was the vae, when I used the one from the model loader it works fine. thought I'd checked that but I guess not? anyway, thanks!
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>>8238404
There's nothing smart about spending money on a subscription...
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>>8238404
Nice try kurumun-dono
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>>8238176
thoughts on euge's grand plan for caption dropouts? a lot of this seems like a bad idea to me
>If the creation date of the data is later than 2019, the artist tag is assigned in the format of "by {artist}". The artist tag is then placed at the end of the caption
euge is doing this because he wants the model to learn the recent versions of each artist rather than the older ones, but i don't think this approach works:
- i don't even think it would do a good job at homing into a consistent style for most artists. it's 6 years between 2019 and 2024, and anybody who has tried to curate artist datasets knows that an artist's style often changes significantly in a single year, let alone 6.
- if you're going to not use artist tags for all of the dataset pre 2019 you run into a higher possibility of contaminating tags concentrated before 2019 with artist styles. like if most of the data for a certain character comes before 2019 and from a single artist then by omitting that artist tag you're guaranteeing that the character tag will always keep the style of that one artist.
- there's also the obvious point that plenty of artists get objectively worse with time and for those you'd rather avoid the newer data.
- you could try to use specific tags for this instead, say artist old, artist mid, artist new or something. this would avoid the problems with dropping out the tags but it would have a similar problem with those not necessarily reflecting consistent or desirable styles.
if you really wanted the artist tags to refer to consistent styles you would unironically end up doing something similar to astralite's idea of style clusters, but doing this properly would require more time and effort that this project seems to be able to spare. imo it's probably not worth asking so much of artist tags for a full finetune (even nai3 doesn't attempt that anyways). and all memes aside this is something loras would do a better job of fixing after the finetune is released
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>>8238404
used 3090s are getting cheap FAST
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>>8238405
Hmm, ok, this one for sure, my male intuition is telling that is this one >>8237989 and >>8237993
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>>8238409
not reading allat
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>>8238409
why don't you post this on his discord so he can see why you think its a bad idea and consider doing it differently?
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>>8238242
do these retard even have the dataset setup and the code ready to go or are they just crying about the lack of compute while doing nothing
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>>8238411
will probably become a sub 300$ card after the 50 series launch
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>>8238404
With 5090 being more expensive and 5080 likely being weaker with only 16GB VRAM, I feel like 4090 prices will drop fuck all.
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>>8238407
this, imagine buying food instead of dumpster diving and growing crops yourself. retards wasting money and feeding capitalist corpos wake up sheeple you're being played
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>>8238353
>aesthetically blind hag lover
based
he makes the most hilariously retarded previews https://civitai.com/images/32462408
great anatomy showcase sir bluvoll
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>>8238421
good morning saar
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>>8238409
a good base model is more important than trying to get the 6 different style an artist used over his career
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>>8238414
i don't want to use discord and i also don't know if my arguments are dumb
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>>8238411
only issue is that they are relatively slow for anything AI
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any good controlnet for illustrious? all I've tried are shit
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>>8238422
I could probably jerk off to the one on the left to be honest
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>>8238424
yeah that's also my point
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>>8238427
anytest v4 (the full 2.5gb one)
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>>8238424
>a good base model
we have pony for that
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>>8238425
>i don't want to use discord
you can sign up on a throw away email and use it in browser, you don't have to download anything. post and never look back if need be
>i also don't know if my arguments are dumb
people will tell you if they have counter arguments and if you don't care if they do or not, then just let euge decide if he thinks they apply or not
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>>8238426
I have 15sec gen with my 3090, is that considered slow?
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>>8238420
Get on board the hopium train, there's rumors of a possible 24GB variant of the 5080
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>>8238429
seiji is one of my favorite huge titty artists
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>>8238176
also
>(Each) a certain probability to assign a character tag in the format of "1 {character}"
why the fuck does euge keep insisting on this? what's supposed to be the benefit of prompting for 1 asuka instead of asuka? if he wants a token to help the model know that what follows is a character tag then 1 seems like a really bad choice
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>>8238437
thatll be $1799 sir
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>>8238435
but i simply don't want to use discord
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>>8238436
for base res? yes
mine takes 8 secs and even less when I remove the power limit
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>>8238437
Yeah, that'll be later to fill the 4090s price slot. You rike?
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>>8238436
on par with old nai gen times
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>>8238443
why?
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>>8238441
>>8238445
Indeed, and also sold out everywhere for months and scalped for 50% markup :^)
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>>8238443
then what's even the point of having any opinion on what euge is doing if its not gonna help anyone or fix anything?
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>>8238449
i mean what's the point of posting on /hdg/ in the first place? i'm fine with it being just screaming into the void
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>>8238450
paranoid neet-sama...
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>>8238385
Unironically yes. Primarily for textgen because I am sick of giving NAI 20 shekels a month for some outdated 8k context Llama garbage, and I can't trust any other service with the utterly degenerate shit I write.
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>>8238453
sir please trust your deranged writing with anthropic they are very trustworthy sir
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>>8238453
>Unironically yes. Primarily for textgen because I am sick of giving NAI 20 shekels a month for some outdated 8k context Llama garbage, and I can't trust any other service with the utterly degenerate shit I write.
>god i hate nai so much reeee hate hate hate but i keep giving them money because im a brainlet who can't figure out oai/anthropic reverse proxies
are you genuinely retarded? i gotta ask because holy shit dude it's a miracle you can even breathe
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>>8238453
Is their new textslop really that much of a fucking failure?
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>>8238453
A single 5090 will still kinda suck for local llms. Maybe buy a used a100 or something
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Does anyone have the wildcard artists for Illustrious-XL?
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>>8238458
This one? https://files.catbox.moe/8rumas.txt
Bonus https://files.catbox.moe/ofzw8i.png
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lucereon vs konanmix vs base illustrious
konanmix seems the best one
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>>8238457
anything decent with 48 gb vram is stupidly expensive unfortunately
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>>8238463
beg for that one chinese company to release their soldered together 4090s kek
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>>8238462
I'll keep using base until someone with ACTUAL dataset finetunes it so nothing is lost in the process.
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>>8238361
Wow! I really like the colors. Requesting box.
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>>8238469
Based.
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>>8238468
do any of the failbakies on civit actually have the whole danbooru dataset to do an aesthetic finetune on everything minus stuff like comics?
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>>8238473
Kohaku could FOR ONCE put his compute to good use and run 1 epoch starting from base that actually matters.
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>10 years from now we'll have computer waifus taking voice input, responding in llm-synthesized, voiced text, while showing perfect stable diffusion images generated on the fly depending on context, probably animated too
not sure how I'm gonna do anything at that point
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>>8238468
konanmix is just the base one but with lesser noise artifacts
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>>8238475
That'd be a cuck move
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>>8238476
>in just 10 years
>he thinks he'll be able to afford it
>he thinks he'll be alive to witness it
lole
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>>8238476
tfw you'll be an oldfuck once this is implemented in full time and your youth will never have been wasted on something so thrilling

..just like VRmmorpgs... I was born too soon...
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>>8238476
10 years from now i will be dead lol
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>>8238455
wow you are unironically the dumbest motherfucker on the planet
like your brain is powered by tachyons that defy the laws of spacetime so you are able to put negative amounts of thought into things and make the most braindead posts ever
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>>8238480
anon, Siberia is big, you know
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>>8238482
don't give up oji-san, I'm sure you still have a few decades of life in you!
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>>8238481
could try to live longer in the meantime
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>>8238484
uh oh proxylet meltie!
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>>8238490
wow you are getting even dumber
>>
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>>8238476
any usage of SOTA AI for explicit content will be thoroughly stamped out in 10 years, OAI is already making sure of it. think of the payment processors...
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>>8238492
smart enough to at least figure out unreliable's rentry ;)
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>>8238495
could be the case but we could also see it swing in some other direction.
although right now things are looking good. in burgerland both fucking sides are pushing for puritanism.
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Is there another vae for illustrious or people just using whatever they had for pony?
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>>8238468
You are literally retarded
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>>8238493
Cute
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>found some random img2img material
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>>8238505
rad
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Illustrious-XL is amazing at understanding prompts, but why is the image quality so poor? 1024x1024 looks like 512x512.
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>>8238501
Don't care, at least I'm not blind. Non of the shit posted until now improved anything for my use cases.
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>>8238471
https://files.catbox.moe/ja5qe9.png
It's refiner trickery with some i2i smoothing, but I think the base gen actually looks better.
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>>8238508
that's "true" anime
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>>8237888
Saved
>>8237957
Oh fuck yeah
>>8238016
>>8238040
Character name? So beautiful
>>8238153
Looks like my sister, hawt
>>8238223
STOP STARTING STUFF GENDOOOOO
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>>8238508
it's gooknai
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>>8238270
>>8238267
I fucking love tangled <3
>>8238290
top tier panties
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Galko.fukt
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am too much of a vramlet to use anytest full, is there any way for me to diminish its size?
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>>8238508
Yeah I'm trying to figure out how to prompt with it since I can't get the example images.
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>>8238398
Cute
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>>8238518
it's bbc
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>>8238433
Nice facial scene, whats her name?
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>>8238516
just don't use the full? That's why there are smaller versions in the first place
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>>8238522
they don't work on illustrious
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>>8238520
Oh
I meant it's sexy af no cap, na meen?
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>>8238469
CAAATBOOOOXXX?
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>>8238317
Because only newfags focus on BFL
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>>8238521
Yae Sakura
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>>8238508
Give it time, itll get better in more iterations
>le 1 more epoch meme
Angel isn't an autistic money burning furry
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>>8238535
we'll see if it isn't
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Has forge resumed development? Has reforge becomes obsolete?
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>>8238539
yes
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>>8238517
when you see a beautiful image on Illustrious-XL it has been upscaled, on my pc I don't even try to upscale anymore because it takes more than 20 minutes.
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>>8237673
awesome. Really cool.
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>>8238539
Yes and no. Reforge is still preferable for SDXL because Gradio 3 and Ilyasviel doesn't break it every 5 seconds. Regular forge is if you want to use Flux but don't want to touch Comfy.
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>>8238543
lllya hasn't touched forge in the last 2 months. It's stable now.
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>>8238545
Sexy, name?
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>>8238547
it's the Fate slut, you know. Just moe-fied
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>>8238548
It's passionlip, you dumb nigger. Completely different character from sakura
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>>8238541
Okay you right. Guess I'll start rebaking my shit for loras for this and see what works. Hopefully the same settings work
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I've just found out that Illus and it's derivatives can't do glansjob. I am sad. Unless someone can prove me wrong!
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>>8238551
Hmm
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>>8238552
Yeah that's the tag I tried and used, but to no avail. Is this a case of where you have to combine several tags to get what you want?
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>>8238547
sorry, I'm not sure, I'm just randomizing prompts from a text file to test a lora and this was an early epoch output before the lora really kicked in. maybe the other anon's guesses are right
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>>8238444
Base res+adetailer, I remember my gen taking 10sec a while ago but maybe I had a less heavy prompt
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>>8238550
sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp
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gotta retool my xy workflow for illustrious proompts and sort out the schizo advice
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i see
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>>8238552
skill issue?
'just the tip', 'glansjob'
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Is there an artist list for illustrious or people just ballparking what works til loras / good finetunes?
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>>8238562
i don't see
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>>8238564
Almost everything works to some degree. Even 150-image literally who artists can still have a strong effect, they're just not accurate.
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>>8238563
kittysucc
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>>8238564
where do you retards come from
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>>8238564
So far not everything works, there are times where the photo doesn't even pop up.
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>>8238505
>>8238507
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>>8238550
pony settings worked fine for me
just gotta cut it earlier if the model already had partial knowledge before
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>>8238563
box?
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>>8238563
cutiebox?
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>>8238573
I KNEEL
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>>8238563
I was more looking for the version where the hand is either palming or caressing the tip of the penis, it can be done, but it's very rng.
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>>8238565
me either
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>>8238573
Almost makes me feel bad, that I just gave it a quick glance in 720p
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>>8238528
https://files.catbox.moe/42200a.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ufjkws.png
https://files.catbox.moe/wu10cw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/nz63y3.png
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>>8238578
Yeah that's super rng. I've also tried
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peak based sexy
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>>8238573
holy based
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>>8238573
absolute cinema
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>>8238581
Based cuny lord. Bless you.
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>>8238584
holy fuck, two at once, I love this eager cat girl
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>>8238427
Unironically xinsaar's union with tile preprocessor
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>>8238581
ask for gold got gold x4

thank you anon!
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>>8238574
So you're just doing shorter bakes / less epochs? I'll just run some trials see how it goes, thanks king.
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>>8238584
see you took some lessons from ayakon-sensei
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>>8238595
>mentioned him 5 times
>isn't in thread
holy mind broken over a file name lmao
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>>8238598
all me
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>>8238576
>>8238575
https://files.catbox.moe/0guing.png
>>8238578
yeah, gacha but still the hands are abominations
https://files.catbox.moe/rvhhz1.png
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>>8238605
can you make him fat and hairy
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I was called
>>8237493
do you really think someone would do that... post on reddit just to upset people...

>>8237523
it has to be obviously ai to draw all the ai seethers in
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I'm, liking Euler SMEA Dy less and less as I keep on doing X/Y plots. It seems to have pretty bad prompt comprehension.
https://files.catbox.moe/4lu0g8.png
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>>8238573
tfw no ancap elf gf
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not hentai, but check this thread guys, i had no idea how people fucked up with chinese ai vid generator lol
>>>/aco/8539993

its cursed af tho
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>>8238613
i was an original shill and dumped it long ago on pony for good old euler A
for illustrious i favor more schizo settings
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>>8238617
what do you do with that context output?
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>>8238613
Yeah it's kinda rigid, I liked it a lot early and used it a lot less to stop using it, I've just been using dpm 2m + sgm uniform or swapping to euler A. Funny how far we've gotten with these new samplers and Euler A is still really good.
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>>8238613
On my experience euler smea dy only worked fine with raunet while doing very high res gens
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the elite don't want you to know this but if you use one of the finetune into low-weight shitmixes (smoothFT if you're too lazy to do it yourself) with illustrious you can just use regular euler a AYS with minimal artifacting compared to the base model
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>>8237673
I finally got around to using it. Thanks once more.
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>>8238626
>the elite don't want you to know this but
are you on FBI's most wanted list now
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>>8238618
it goes to an rgthree context switch that forwards only the active path to the image preview
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>>8238600
catbox?
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