Rules of Nature EditionPrevious Thread: >>8242673>LOCAL WEBUI SETUPhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki>LOCAL FORGEUIForge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forgeMaintained fork (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge>LOCAL COMFYUIhttps://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUIhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/https://openart.ai/workflows/templates>LOCAL MODELShttps://civitai.com/models/404802https://civitai.com/models/288584https://civitai.com/models/257749>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESFeatures: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/FeaturesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070/controlnetxl-cnxl | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/installUpscaler models: https://openmodeldb.infoBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfList of useful A1111 extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
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>>82452882/2
>>8245288>>8245290where is my picit was better than all that slop
>>8245284Add illustrious to the Op already.
>>8245288>>8245290kill yourself
any wife sexers
https://files.catbox.moe/v0qmaf.jpg
>>8245299b-but the finetune!!!!1!
> Wedding ring on the wrong finger0/10, model's a piece of shit.
>>8245309>>>/d/no, seriously, they really need sonething else to add variety to their threads
>>8245311im not saving that slop fix that shit
You WILL use ze thread and you WILL like it
>>8245316why did she eat all the mayo
>>8245314>>8245309>>8245300Illoustrous would never.Pony wins.
>>8245297>it was better than all that slopSuch hubris is exactly why you are not on the list.
for being a bunch of elitist fags you guys post some hot garbage
>>8245316box?
Trying to run full finetune script is ooming my 3090 every time.
fingers are illustrious's most significant flaw in my gens. the decent pony mixes like reweik and midkemia did significantly improve that aspect compared to most of the other slopmixes
>>8245339Post your config
>>8245339 (Me) --full_bf16 `was required.
>>8245316Is that popcorn?
>>8245330try thishttps://civitai.com/models/806322/x-ray-cum-inflation>>8245347probably
>>8245345I would immediately take off my shirt and pants and hand them to her
gooknai could never create something this deranged and degenerate
>>8245354holy shit, damn, you are right
>>8245354Gookani is the new AOMslop
>>8245351I would carry her back to my place, let her sleep on my bed while I slept on the couch, then deal with her freak out in the morning when she wakes up. I'd ask her if she's okay. "you don't have to tell me what happened, but you do have to eat this" as I hand her a bowl of hardboiled eggs. then I'd ask if she needs a ride home and tell her to take care.
Anyone got any luck using anytest with illu?
>>8245358Yes, it works. Just use the am version.
>>8245341the 4th tail pony tune improved creativity and angles/poses dramatically at the cost of absolutely butchering fingers. everyone is Edward scissorhands.
Trained a multi-style lora for the first time. Mainly loli artists. I don't know if I'm going to upload this one because I kind of want to make a v2hires: https://files.catbox.moe/9v7qy3.pngtoml: https://files.catbox.moe/qetlbp.tomlcunny: https://files.catbox.moe/gspt1f.png>>8245358It's what I usually use for upscaling, works pretty well for my purposes.
first time trying illu, i like how it does compositionsdont know shit about mixing for it yet though, i threw my pony mix in and it seemed to gen competently even if not quite right, but the style would vary a lot for some reason between gens
>>8245364if it's not pony i dont care
https://files.catbox.moe/jkujkk.png>illustrious can actually do holding weapons consistentlyYou should just stop holding off switching to illustrious. Pony is not going to get any better. I'm having so much fun with this model since it can do so much out of the box.>>8245364My man. Very nice work.
>>8245352catbox?
>>8245374>1girl standing + WEAPONYAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>8245379That's right nogener. Pony can't even do that. Very sad isn't it?
>>8245352I can give you prompt:ratatatat74, masterpiece \(quality\), best quality, 1girl, completely nude, nipple rings, black hair, short hair, bob cut, blue eyes, half-closed eyes, torogao, parted lips, smile, medium breasts, implied fingering, standing, nipples, 1boy, size difference, flaccid penis, testicles, muscular male, groping, reach around, grabbing another's breast, fingering another, black background
I did what I could
>>8245374who are you talking to?
>>8245383souless disfigured garbage/21st century immaculate masterpiece
>>8245383souless>>8245387sovl
>>8245364You should have made a finetune...
>>8245391on 8gb of vram?
>>8245364Can you share your settings?
>>8245410That's what the toml is for.
>>8245411I'm fucking blind
>>8245393Why not?
>>8245412I probably should've made it more obvious instead of having it between the two x/y plots>>8245413Yeah I'll just torture my GPU for two days straight instead of one
>>8245414>two days straight instead of oneThat's a huge overstatement. In theory it should converge at about half a day.
i have 2x3090s, can i get into full finetuning?
is there a list of innate illu artists anywhere yet
>>8245425>>8245130
>>8245421This lora took 14 hours. I highly doubt that whatever settings I would need to use to do a full fine-tune without OOMing when I look at my GPU wrong wouldn't double that time.
>>8245425Entire danbooru before march.
mayyy*
>>8245428Just don't give that guy mind. If he is so invested he can do it himself and come here and show results, rather than have other people waste their time for him.
>>8245422How come you never tried full finetuning?>>8245428>I highly doubtWell why don't you try it?
>>8245433I come from LLM land, where nothing worth using fits on 2x3090s as a full finetune.>>8245428Compute is basically the same for Lora vs FFT, it's primarily a memory difference, forward pass remains the same compute cost wise.
how do i make a dora in kohya i only see dylora but idk lol
>>8245438>where nothing worth using fits on 2x3090s as a full finetune.I think you just can't go back to 8b retardation after tasting 70b quants. Not sure how it's affecting LLMs (likely 100%) but for diffusion, lora, lycoris, etc training implementations are quite broken.
>>8245444rsLora is so much better than regular Lora at least, but I dunno if anyone in diffusion uses that.Bottlenecks the shit out of higher rank trains.
>>8245446*Regular Lora bottlenecks higher rank training.https://huggingface.co/blog/damjan-k/rslora
>>8245432soul
Why does every pony gen have the exact same putrid sepia shading?
>>8245464it would be too powerful otherwise
>>8245446>>8245448Looked into peft repository and yeah, shit sucks ass even in LLM space. They just use "correct" math in which the size of a lora matrix somehow affects the learning rate, see https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/discussions/294#discussioncomment-10198552. rsLoRA does modify the scaling_factor but I don't know how much correction this brings.
>>8245464skill issue
pony looks so much better for bestiality gens
>>8245464it's pony
>>8245476true sadly
https://files.catbox.moe/5yn6er.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/77nblx.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/7pafkf.png
onoma balls
>>8245476seems like the chinese guys will include e6 dataset in their illus finetune or their new model, might be kino
>>8245487Delete this post.
We love sepia though
>>8245482you still using just NAI?
correcting evil villainess cunny
>>8245494Happy now
>>8245507
But why is so blurry?
>>8245506illustriousXL_smoothftSPO
So what can Illustrious even do? Can it produce actual /h/ material yet?
>>8245515scroll up?
>>8245515only usable for /e/ unfortunately
so is this loosey goosey thing gonna actually come out?
>>8245521why not just merge pony and illu
>>8245523theyre way too different to be mixed, its like trying to mix oil and water, both are liquids but retard each other, youd have to mix illus with another SDXL model
Request a img2img with sango from Inuyasha and Garnet from Steven Universe
>>8245530go away man
>>8245487>>8245530>>/aco/
i wish the shinjiro style worked better on illustrious
what's a troll but tasteful way to watermark my gens fuckers keep uploading it to boorus
>>8245536a swastika with the nword
>>8245536inpaint the corner with 0 padding with the original prompt+chibi. also what boorus I wanna see if my stuff is floating around too
>>8245538blackedbooru
>>8245538just reverse search your picture if you are so curious
>>8245538oh man. so far, I came across an old ass gen of mine at imagefap, blew my mind because I was looking for something completely unrelated and atfbooru when I wanted to fap and then i saw my fucking gens that I posted 5 fucking minutes ago i had to stop my fap and flame whoever was posting that shit >>8245542im racist so nope
>>8245544>im racist so nopeso based
>>8245544lol, I saw a shitty edit I did at loverslab while looking for mods
>>8245544>imagefapspeaking of which I went to their AI section and the shit boomers/normies put up on that site is just maximum sloppa, half the time they don't even upload images into the correct category, and their moderation staff is too stupid to implement an automatic filter lmao
back to basic prompts to learn how this model worksit is kind of blurry and the genitals suck but i like the style potential
>>8245552these guys scrape and post shit that I have seen posted here before.what kind of worm do you have to be to do that.decrepit vultures. reposting and circulating slop. I only went there because I wanted to farm dalle gens
cat
So does illust do oppai loli good?
>>8245555I dont get itwhats wrong with thatdo you feel possessive of the slop you post?
>>8245559trash sites like imagefap idc aboutI don't think boorus should have any AI in them at allyou're circulating garbage. the bar is much lower now in terms of creating content, and it's an endless stream of slopif you continue to allow it, it will be well past the majority of content in boorus and that's disgusting
>>8245562danbooru, gelbooru and e621 all ban it and those are the only relevant boorus
>>8245564I dont use danbooru they fucking paywalled loli? lol get the fuck outta here
>>8245322if you're not a falseflag and actually the highlights anon you're genuinely the biggest faggot i've seen in this general and i'm starting to understand why people hate you
>>8245562you can always just filter it, and danbooru/gelbooru don't allow aisloppa either way, only maybe ai-assisted sometimes when the artist does most of the jobsankaku/atf/r34 are pretty trashy too and you can filter stuff anyway I wish places like r34 implemented at least slight degree of quality control though. I don't mind seeing ai pics on boorus/pixv, especially if the character doesn't have many pictures, but most of ai posts are so incredibly bad that it's not worth the hassle to go through them anywhere and it's better to filter them altogether
>>8245565it's relevant because 1. danbooru is where most AI-training datasets for the big finetumes are taken from and 2. 90% of the shit on gelbooru is just scraped from danbooru. seriously look at who the listed uploader for any image on gelbooru is and it's just their automated danbooru scraper most of the time.also the payment option has been disabled on danbooru for years so now it's an effortwall
illustrious really is very ok at mio's outfit for a base model, i wonder how this will translate to its ability to learn alt outfits
>>8245570>Xenoblade anon got his mitts on IllusCan't wait to see if its easier or harder for you to train those characters on that one
>>8245571i've already tried a few character loras, it's seemingly easier and you can also teach a lora to reliably gen multiple characters.they even show up with their features consistently assigned if illustrious decides to follow the prompt, which is good news for out of the box oyakodon genning
>>8245556Sex.Is that a LoRA or Illu?or both?
>>8245595derp, just saw >>8245570
>>8245595https://litter.catbox.moe/k8b6nm.pngjust the model's base knowledge of the character and a style. no cat girl loras until tomorrow
>>8245601nice, catbox?
Any news on the chink alliance?
>>8245603Here's the pre-inpaint version, had to get rid of any extra fingerhttps://files.catbox.moe/sz7c4a.png
>>8245605you think any of us speak chinese enough to join their qq chat or whatever shit they use?
>>8245607yes
>>8245606thanks, love me some 100kgs
>>8245585box?
>>8245612https://files.catbox.moe/avc2dq.pngenjoy
>>8245615thanks
Anon who trained a lora on dj panels, are you here? Did you try to balance your manga samples with regular (colored) ones?
An autistic question. Do you tag pussy when it's completely covered by censorship?
>>8245626Yes. You tag pussy, censored, bar_cencor, or whatever. That way you can remove it later by prompting in negative. Blurry images also needs blurry tagging if you want your gens to not look like covered in vasoline later.
>>8245626Yes if it's mosaic or black barNo if it's conveniently covered (but yes if you can still see it a bit)
>>8245564>>8245567Some artist are ai-slop tier, I dont see how its different to have them allowed beside the quantity they produce
>>8245645>beside the quantityquantity is a big one. there's a lot of artists that draw garbage, but they still can't produce nearly as much shit as an aislopper. and entry barrier to draw crap is still considerably higher than it is for an aifag. so the flooding issue wasn't as big before ai.
>>8245568>also the payment option has been disabled on danbooru for years so now it's an effortwallThe tags are still blocked.
hmm...
How come my lora training actually gets SLOWER the more bath size is increased?
>>8245689batch size is the number of images you train on simultaneously. the more images you need to train on simultaneously, the more compute you need
>>8245689Because sometimes its faster to do one thing at a time than it is to do 4 things at once.
Do you tag characters in the style datasets?
>>8245693assuming the character tags are recognized by the model you are training on, yes
What is inpaint mask blur actually doing in adetailer? I tried different value and they all looked different but the quality wasnt really dropping and I cant pick any test I did that I would prefer
>>8245707you could've just googled this, but i'll spoonfeed one more time. when you draw a mask and inpaint it, it applies a gaussian blur over the mask. as you increase the slider, the radius of this blur gets extended inwards and outwards from the edge of the mask. essentially, it's smoothening the edges of the mask so the stuff inpainted vs the rest of the image blends together well.
>>8245708Thanks, I was expecting it to be doing that but the fact that the center was as different as the edge when doing comparison was confusing me (it still does)
>>8245715because the blur extends both directions (inwards towards the mask and outwards away from the mask) equally. it's not blurring one side of the edge, it's blurring both sides
new here, what upscalers do you guys use?
https://files.catbox.moe/oe5gaq.jpg
catbox?it's inpainted
txt2imgsisters our response?
>>8245723sexo maximo
>text2imgliteral soulless machine-generated slop>inpainting and editingcontains the creator's soul and artistic vision
>>8245724>catbox?>it's inpaintedI definitely inpainted this one.
>>8245723box with metadata please...?
2x 4090 or 1x 5090?
>>8245736The former
>there are multiple bakers on civitai that unironically still bake loras for pony
>>8245742Why not?
>>8245744Isn't that the question of the day?
>>>8245130I'm doing similar and organising them into groups of style and which ones I like/dislike as it goes. I don't think my prompts are as good for expressing an artist's style as yours is though. I tried to use a more practical prompt that I might typically use, but 90% look like the same shit. Maybe my prompt is too verbose and doesn't give enough freedom?Anyway, many thanks for sharing, will either adjust my prompting or lazily look through your results.
>>8245740lol
>>8245744uhh because everything must migrate to the current fotm and abandon their core audience? it's worked for large companies so it will work for you
>>8245750gpt-2 post
>>8245751think you are funny? post a funny gen
>>8245742too late I just baked
B-chamaAaaa
https://files.catbox.moe/j5e81l.png
>>8245771based
>>8245771>penis nowhere in the prompt>draws one anywaybravo
>>8245777>prompt pussy>it also gens a whole fucking girl along with itwhat the fuck is this shit
>>8245781>food referenceretard
>see a nice image>ask for catbox>they are still using ponyugh. its like getting a catbox from someone using comfy, just a complete letdown. should i even still say thank you in this scenario?
>>8245787>he can't tell if a gen is ponythat's on you
>>8245788ive already seen people do an img2img pass over an illu and nai gen with pony
>>8245787>its like getting a catbox from someone using comfyBased, didn't know retards couldn't utilize my Comfy boxes.
>>8245794comfy truly is the pony of ai interfaces
comfy is a pseudo-intellectual exercise in making retards feel they are smart for doing more work for less results in workflows
>>8245787Well shit I've been too busy collecting gachasluts and cooking with pony. God dammit.ZZZ gacha is just big strip joint energy.
>>8245798She has 6 fingers. I will never understand people that have such low self worth that they don't immediately cringe when posting stuff like this.
>>8245803but anon, error correction and basic inpainting is too hard and laborious to do for every gen and no one does that. it only gets done occasionally as a very special service.t.ayakon
>>8245797>Somehow, someone connecting nodes makes them a pseudo-intellectualIt's okay to be behind on the bell curve anon.Both Forge/Reforge and Comfy have their uses.
>>8245803I was really distracted by what looks like the double pussy. Honest
>>8245812the einzbern loli integrated blockly into new forge, so forgechads are the real noodleusers now
>>8245797here's your comfyui training manual bro, for gigabrains such as myself
>>8245821and yet somehow people still struggle lol
>>8245821brb updating my malware node
>>8245816>two of the main local sd contributors use Illyasviel as their nickname/avatarhagbros how do we cope
>>8245821cute tiger
>>8245825just put in the effort and become a major contributor while using the name medea
>>8245825cunny is the driving force of aihagfags are just derailed
>>>8243922>https://rentry.org/lora-is-not-a-finetune#migrating-from-easyscripts-to-sd-scriptsThe Locon extraction line is fucked, it has '--linear_quantile=30 --conv_quantile=20' but mode isn't set to quantile. Also, the values for those parameters are supposed to be between 0 and 1.As it is it's using fixed mode (producing a 7mb file, which isn't enough).Here's a better line:python extract_locon.py --safetensors --is_sdxl --mode=quantile --device=cuda --linear_quantile=.1 --conv_quantile=.1 "path to base model" "path to extract from" "path to output lora"This gives me a 391mb file. It seems like they have to be quite big to work wellAlternatives to quantile:ratio (didn't seem as good as quantile per file size from my testing (asthetic finetune)--mode=ratio --linear_ratio=.75 --conv_ratio=.75 fixed (haven't tested)--mode=fixed --linear_dim=32 --conv_dim=32Altering the mode paremeters for linear and conv alters the file size of the locon. For my asthetic locon the conv was tiny compared to the linear (which makes sense)I've been testing the full-finetune-locon-extract meme out on a small aesthetic/quality dataset which i couldn't get to do anything useful with lora training, it seems to work as expected, unlike lora training.Here's my test if anyone's interested (it was only 2000 steps):https://mega.nz/file/WAU02YLI#1jaVMGl30EEg8vWfci3UjLC3fxikElZjITNocNvJ0OI
>>8245834>>>/g/
>>8245834>The Locon extraction line is fuckedYup, looks about right, fixed it. Thanks.>It seems like they have to be quite big to work wellThis fucked script doesn't check if the text encoder weights are different and includes all of them in the lora.Incidentally, which GPU do you have?
>>82458393090
>>8245842The Hirune lora...please sir...
>>8245840hypnobox?
>>8245843I actually hope someone with a 12gb GPU will test this out, it's quite possible finetuning is better even despite full_bf16 without rounding.
>>8245825>take loli>turn her into a hageasy
>>8245834How much longer/VRAM hungry this compared to standard dora training?
>>8243922>mixed_precision = "bf16">save_precision = "fp16"caring so much about full bf16 while still losing from this conversion? reminds me about llama 3 problems with quants, that was first converted to fp16, while the main model was trained with bf16
>>8245858There's no point in saving it in bf16 because of two reasons.1. It will be converted to fp16 for inference anyway.2. Extremely large and small numbers sometimes may appear during training, but not during inference.
>>8243922Where the fuck is this option? The only ones I see are regular save/load toml
>and not a single (You) was givenKEEEK
>>8245862How old your easyscripts setup is?
my slop > your slop
>>8245870legal where i live
>>8245841>>8245851hagbox?
>>8245870>commit 5c3528ffdcc3e3e0b1eb3a5ff1409baf1953cf73Latest main branch
Any anime gen you can do on Pony, I can do better on illu. Sorry, not sorry, ponychuds.
What model can do foreplay with an assertive girl? It's impossible to gen a girl groping a guy without crazy gacha.Can't even get a fucking crotch grab on a erection under clothes consistently, even though I thought it was common enough.
Are these ponychuds in the room with us right now?
>>8245877>anime genWhy should I care about this sameface slop?
>>8245860so the loss from wrong precision will happen anyway? why forge/comfy just don't implemented to choose the weight type?>Extremely large and small numbers sometimes may appear during training, but not during inference.isn't that what was happening when v1 vae was throwing NaN's?
>>8245874https://files.catbox.moe/m0higm.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/f8l63m.png
has Illustrious been shackled into something more consistent like Autism yet?
Sirs... the discord screenshots, please...
>>8245890The artifacting won't be fixed until v1.0/2.0 is released. If the terminally undercooked raw v0.1 pre-alpha could be fixed just like that, we wouldn't need anything more than 1.5 shitmixes.
>>8245875>check it>derrian hid itNo fucking way, what a bastard.>>8245885You can load unet in bf16 on comfy though. But for inference fp16 is faster, better and more compatible.>v1 vae was throwing NaN's?SDXL vae also throws it in fp16, but that's not important here. Unet is not VAE.
>>8245890It's still pretty rough, I definitely get more garbage gens than good ones. People can definitely make some good stuff out of it though.Illustrious if you want to make an effort, pony if you want to slop, in my worthless opinion.
>>8245898I know, that's why I want a finetune like Autism, it clearly has potential but the rng is huge. Very hard to control
>>8245898What prompt/settings are you using?
>>8245903>finetune>like AutismWhen will people understand that two loras at low weight does not make a finetune
>>8245906it's a single shitposter.
>>8245898>Illustrious if you want to make an effort, pony if you want to slopEffort here means selecting some shitmix of artist tags and letting that do 99% of the work for you.
We have a proper finetune in smoothft and it far surpasses autism
>>8245911>Effort here means selecting some shitmix of artist tags and letting that do 99% of the work for you.Why yes, I too enjoy Novel AI.
how retarded do you have to be to enjoy regurgitating same bait for a year
wondering how i can do better inpaints by utilizing both modelsbase gen on pony, inpaint on illustrious, finish with small denoise high res inpaints on pony for cleanliness?if i'm going to swap models twice i sure wish they didnt take so long to load
anyone use a metadata export node for comfy? i had one before but it was slow af and clunky
>>8245906I don't care what it is, it works, I want it for illustrious
>>8245911So true king, there's definitely no issue where even with your supposed shitmix of artists one generation comes out fine and the next seed comes out a total unusable gen
>>8245920https://civitai.com/models/811067?modelVersionId=907264your spoon-feeding, sir
>>8245895>You can load unet in bf16 on comfy thoughwhat node is that?>But for inference fp16 is fastereven with ampere+ gpus?
how can I get the tagger extension to find an interrogator model that I'm trying to load? I placed it in models/diffusers but it doesn't recognize it
>ctrl-f euge>zero resultswhat happened? i thought this was going to be the next big thing, the bake to end all bakes, the greatest cluster local has ever seen?
>>8245926Update the interrogator list
how can I get the derriandistro LoRA gui to use multiple gpus?
https://mega.nz/folder/ctl1FYoK#BYlpywutnH4psbEcxsbLLgadded abe tsukasa (frieren mangaka) (illustrious)
>>8245928dont give a shit unless he releases a finished model, gossiping about retards squandering compute all day is boring and tiresome
>>8245930how do I do that? or do you just mean refresh it, because I did that
>>8245938edit utils.py. there are posts on github for the extension about this
>>8245862>>8245875Updated.>If you are using the most recent version, well, you don't have that menu option. Instead, start the lora training as you usually do, then go to `easyscripts/backend/runtime_store` and snatch `config.toml` and `dataset.toml` from there.>>8245924>what node is that?It's an arg.>even with ampere+ gpus?Since ampere they're the same speed iirc.
>>8245928When a bunch of people started joining his server he started getting dogshit suggestions and experiments that I can't even begin to be bothered to explain how wrong they are. Some guy suggested some trick to make anatomy better without realizing that they make the model less dynamic and more rigid, whereas bucketing properly is shown to improve anatomy greatly. And would you know it, the main issue with anatomy is in the art itself. Show him some hands and he goes on to explain how they're a a unique case.Meanwhile b- is experimenting with natural language through lora training... On models that mainly focus on tag systems... With regular old clip...Feels like these theoretical wizards are all yes-men that can't criticize properly and want to waste Euge's team's compute for experiments
>>8245938Open the .py file with the list and add your models, restart your UI
Can we take IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install out of the Op?
>>8245949Is there something better? I still use LamaCleaner to clean up extra fingers and shit
>>8245949Why? It's useful for cleaning datasets.
>>8245950>>8245951It's already listed in the a1111 extension list and comfy probably has its own node of it as well. Don't see the point of installing it separately anymore
>>8245943>Some guy suggested some trick to make anatomy better without realizing that they make the model less dynamic and more rigidthis trick is used by illustrious, do you call that model rigid?
>>8245844I'm posting it tonight. Saar
>>8245955Why should I wait for a1111 or comfy to load when I can just run the actual program and do what I need to do. Also, if you really wanted to remove it for that reason, the smart thing to do would be to replace it with links to those aforementioned a111 extensions and comfy nodes.
>>8245943>waste Euge's team's compute for experimentswow anon that's fucked up that they're potentially using the 32 h100s set aside for running experiments to do experiments with in order to get the best settings before they do the full training run.can someone please just join the discord already and tell euge to just use my personal training settings? they came to me in a dream and i know that they are perfect and trying or testing anything else is a waste of time.
>>8245922I'm testing it and while it's maybe better (could be placebo), it's still a pony-level mess. Adding or removing tags makes the generation explode into deformity and it's pretty cooked
>>8245959Guess we'll leave it in then.
>>8245956>this trick is used by illustriousAnd yet it didn't fix anatomy, his so-called "broader concepts" don't seem to be all that much more present than NAIv3 were, and more niche characters seem to have fallen out of promotability in comparison to NAIv3 despite having been trained for more epochs. Unless we have empirical proof that it has more pros than cons, why risk it?>>8245961They're experimenting with illustrious, trying to get vpred right, and potentially incorporate natural language on what seems like base clip. From what I can tell, Euge has wisely decided to just say "Thanks! :)" and shelf the suggestions so far and I commend him for it.
>>8245941Can you upload an example for config and data tomls?
>>8245962yeah it's not incredible. it does remove some visual artifacts but so does basically any style lora. a lot of illustrious's issues are caused by shitty prompt adherence more than anything else.
>>8245962>nogen with metadata to diagnose issuesI think you may be retarded. Or a shill.
Should I add Illustrious related links to the op? Like the lora scraper rentry or something?
I'm glad the release of Illustrious only proved just how much better Pony was after all.
>>8245971Sure
>>8245965but illu anatomy is better than pony dear anon
>>8245974And I wonder why the fuck that might be, could it be because western furry art features characters with 4 fingers and multiple arms? Like fuck man, the solution to anatomy is simply better bucketing and yet we're chasing snake oil.
>>8245971Yes please, I just came back and had to guess what are you using now :D
>>8245975Should probably also mention moving on from the crappy 4 channel vae for more intricate finger positioning
>>8245975>the solution to anatomy is simply better bucketingyeah for sure
>>8245975you are genuinely retarded
>>8245975how would unsquishing images by a few pixels bear so much significance it can turn animagine into nai3?
>>8245982Nice reasoning.
>>8245002hey, I threw together a dataset for AiMi. it might not have been a good idea to include the idol and schoolgirl skins, but it would have been pretty small without them.
>>8245985Ignore him, king. He is genuinely retarded.
>>8245986>>8245002I'm retardedhttps://mega.nz/folder/krZkQBLY#igBMtuxtvw8P5HVaiel5jQ
Is there a way to color manga with SD? Doing img2img changes the original way too much
The solution to better anatomy is to simply reach out to random artists and harass them to study anatomy harder. You guys are thinking too hard.
>>8245961nta but i just worry that they're setting their ambitions too high and we'll end up with a worthless model rather than just a good model. it's not my work or compute being used though so it's not my place to tell them how to do things. wishing them all the best regardless and who knows, maybe their big aspirations will pay off and they'll put out the definitive animu/hentai model for sdxl.thanks for coming to my ted talk
>>8245989controlnet with canny preprocessor maybe
My pc is getting out of space. One of these Models has to go.Which should I remove, and which should stay?
>>8245989Anytest controlnet
>>8245994>base ponythere is literally no reason anyone should be using this
>>8245996Im not good at nodes. Can it be done with forge?>>8245993That will change the image as well, no?
>>8245994whatever the fuck perfect pony is desu
>>8245994remove both
>>8245928As someone who follows and gives advice to Euge and team on their discord server, I can give a rough rundown on what is currently happening.The big thing atm is Euge testing out how reliably LLMs can NL caption booru images. The idea is by first giving a LLM with vision capabilities a reference to the existing booru tags of a booru image, then the LLM will generate better and more relieable NL captions. Euge's argument for including NL captions are, quote:>> "The reason why we use nl caption is that, tags are not enough to express the image space, such as object relationship."In other words, he wants the model to better understand when a subject is interacting with something in a certain way.Given the few tests done so far, it seems that giving a LLM the original booru tags before letting it describe the image, doesn't keep it from hallucinating or re-intrepreting the contents of the image. For images with fewer subjects 2-3 at most, it seems much more reliable according to Euge, but bigger images with more subjects and the LLM starts to do aforementioned. Shorter simpler NL captions are also more reliable in their description in contrast to longer ones, but Euge prefers longer detailed NL captions.There are some concerns regarding the inclusion of NL captions from the other members of the discord - mostly in regards to booru tags being weakened in general due to the presence of NL captions and the likelyhood of increased false positives due to hallucinations/re-intrepetations by the NL captioning LLM, making the model more unreliable when prompting.Some good things though they are trying to do is fixing image artifacts in the dataset, by looking into using upscalers and models that can reduce or fix existing artifacts in the dataset. V-pred and znsr will certainly be used when training the full model eventually.If anyone has questions, I'll be happy to answer them.
>>8245984In the NAIv3 paper, better cropping and bucketing was the solution they came up with for the following problems:"humans are often generated without feet or heads, and swords consist of only a blade with a hilt and point outside the frame. As we are creating an image generation model to accompany our storytelling experience, it is important for our model to be able to produce proper, uncropped characters, and generated knights should not be holding a metallic-looking straight line extending to infinity.Another issue with training on cropped images is that it can lead to a mismatch between the text and the image.For example, an image with a "crown" tag will often no longer contain a crown after a center crop is applied and the monarch has been, thereby, decapitated."
>>8246001>when training the full model eventually.heh
>>8245998Controlnet models can be used with any UI unless you're using something like Foocus, I guess.
What's the character limit on OPs again? 2k?
>>8246002lmaooooo, don't tell him
>>8246004I read that controlnet does not work well with SDXL. Is it false?
>>8246007Controlnet models not made for SDXL don't work for SDXL.
>>8246008Then I guess I cannot use them to colorize manga
>>8246002are you a summerfag or something?
>>8246009No you can't, but you can use the controlnet I told you about because that one is made for SDXL.
>>8246002Anon, they implemented bucketing in NAIv1 and local trainers have had it for 2 years.
>>8246006>>8246010?
>>8246011Anytest controlnet? I didnt find it in Hugging Face. Would you be so kind to sauce me a link?
https://litter.catbox.moe/9qy4b0.jpgCan lIIustrlous do object permanence?
>>8246014Have you tried looking in the OP or googling?
>>8246002skipped over stuff huh? no blame though, the wording was pretty brief. section 4.1 is mostly just reiterating what they did in nai1, "As no existing solution for this problem seems to exist" is a misleading phrase if you skipped reading "As in previous NovelAI Diffusion models" "In sections 4.1.1, 4.1.2 and 4.1.3, we will reiterate our approach here for the sake of completeness."
>>8246001Have they posted any more sample images?
>>8246016>looking in the OPI see. It was called iroiro-lora. That is why Google didnt find it in Hugging Face. Thanks
>>8246015Why does the water level drop off sharply at her right hip? Just fucking composite the characters onto a 3d background and inpaint in a semi-transparent blue layer.
you can use bucketing to fix anatomy though, although i believe this will pretty much only apply to synthetic or heavily cropped datasets so it'll probably not be applicable to a finetune
>>8246022is this post AI generated or are you genuinely this retarded
>>8246022how? it literally just gathers images of similar aspect ratios. do you think bucketing crops random parts in the image or something? it doesn't do anything transformative on the images.
>>8246021It's fluid dynamics. Not my fault you don't understand it.
>>8246021Haha another epic troll by our favorite poster, looks like he got another one boys!
>>8246027You don't understand the integral principles of the structural dynamics of flow
WHEN IS ANOTHER GENERATIONAL LEAP GONNA COME I'M TIRED OF MUSHED UP DETAILS AND UNCONTROLLABLE ANATOMY
>>8246031>>8246032the lamp...
>>8246036Wrong focus
>>8245974false
>>8246033Artificial intelligence drew that, so it is true to reality. Or are you trying to argue that you are smarter than a machine that can solve more equations in a second than you ever could in your lifetime?
>>8246019Original anon here. I do currently have access to the repo where they post partially trained versions of the model, but they are only trained at most up to 10-25000 steps from 0 to 1 epoch.If you give me an Illustrious prompt (catbox/text, either is fine), I can post samples and comparisons here.
>>8246043>avatarfag shitposter is too stupid to understand a referencesurprising no one
>>8246025It does both, idiot. If you give the trainer a dataset of 4k images with bucketing enabled, first it will gather images of similar aspect ratios. If the aspect ratios don't match the ratios required to train, transformations will be applied to first crop the image to fit the nearest training aspect ratio, and then it will resize it to train better. As you can imagine, this process won't be as good as when a human would decide the crop location and resizing method. Cropping could also result in items within the tags being cropped out, causing the AI to hallucinate what a human is telling it is there, or assuming that your fingers cut off at some point.
>>8246047im still not convinced the thread isnt full of bots as it always surprises me that he gets any (you)'s at all anymore
>>8245956Illustrious 0.1 doesn't use register tokens, and since angel is the only person with access to versions of the models that do use them we don't know how well they work in practice. But I do think they're a pretty interesting idea
>>8246047Sorry I don't watch DC Marvelverse movies.
Best artists to put in the negatives for Illustrious?
Updated OP: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw
>>8246044Nah, no need, I was just curious if they had posted anything else other than the one image posted in a previous thread. Coincidentally, if you're in the other discords, like jordach's, what's going on there?
>>8246055(you)
>>8246050he can always samefag but also he get yous from shitposters
pajeets got off work i guess. looks like it's time to head out
>>8246025the problem is that when the ai isn't very good at separating 1girl, standing from 1girl, 1024x1024. this is why you see stuff like torsos being stretched out at higher aspect ratios or them becoming ultra wide at wider aspect ratios, the AI learns that a foot needs to be close to the bottom right side of the image and another foot needs to be close to the bottom left so it stretches that shit out even if the image is 1344x960 or whatever.i train character loras primarily using screenshots of koikatsu or xenoblade or mmd that don't feature backgrounds and unless i take steps to randomize the image dimensions and position+scale of the character in the training images then i will get absolutely fucking garbage anatomy and fucked up proportions. i've been doing something similar for styles that i train if the training images are noticeably lower resolution than the target resolution or if there are way too many repeats and the results have been pretty non destructive so far.
>>8246065why is his left hand so long?
>>8246058I left Jordach's discord after I saw how meanoldtree was actually dying and in hospice care while Jordach didn't seem to care and showed a worrying lack of empathy. That, and him being so stubborn and delusional all the time, I decided to leave. So no news from there I'm afraid.
>>8246065Anon why did you do this...
>>8246080falseflag to damage the reputation of illustrious
>>8246070I see, thanks anyway anon
>>8246082No problem, and you're welcome anon! :)
>>8246068Yeah as someone that mainly focuses on training visual novel stuff, I think I fucked up with this in particular. I autocropped all the tachi-e such that the entire image is just the character with nothing else... With all the hair in the same position and shit... I'll need to redo that later.
>>8246001idk what kind of utter retardation is trying to remove artifacts from your datasets while using webp recompressed ones
>>8246087>mainly focuses on training visual novel stuffbased. do you post your loras anywhere?
>>8246070>meanoldtreeShit really? I thought people were just memeing from the name. That sucks dude seemed pretty chill.
>>8246088Do you see any better datasets lying around anon? If you do, you could link them here, and we could share it with Euge if image compression via. webp is of a huge concern to you!
>>8246091I did post them on mega but then my windows installation fucked itself up and I lost the password I used for the mega along with a bunch of datasets I had. I'm waiting for a good model to bring back my motivation to put everything together again lolI can provide loras for Irotoridori no Sekai and the Bishoujo Mangekyou series (minus the Yuki Onna one for now) for Illustrious on catbox if you want
>>8246094>I can provide loras for Irotoridori no Sekai and the Bishoujo Mangekyou series (minus the Yuki Onna one for now) for Illustrious on catbox if you wantthat would be very nice
>>8246001>>8246002>retard trooncord users just now discover what bucketing is>these are the people in local who have computewhat more did i expect. guess our only hope is back to gooknai delivering
>>8246093there is a trillion on huggingface, even from the same uploaders, i have no clue why people would use the webp versions for a large scale tune like thisdeepghs that euge uses some of his datasets from literally has a normal and webp version for every site
>>8246087https://mega.nz/fm/BogAhaLatry these. pad_buckets will pre-process and bucket images and will change its behavior based on if an image is a cowboy shot/upper body shot/full opaque/full color image/etc. while the two mask.py scripts will use an image's alpha channel to generate a loss mask. i use mask_full for styles and mask_outline to generate a loss outline around a character in order to preserve their silhouette and then add a background to the character's training image once the mask has been generated.
>>8246096i don't get how you misread this conversation this much but the only person who discovered what bucketing is in the year of our lord 2024 was some random retard from this thread
>>8246100actually im retarded here's the right link https://mega.nz/folder/9oxATQTK#mAe-SdELv6A03F7Dazxy3w
>>8246092Something about a liver disease/chronic illness that he and his family had known for a long time but recently got much worse. While he was sick, he was still trying to secure compute for Jordach, while Jordach simply seemed to look past the dying tree in front of him, while asking for details regarding the compute.
>>8246101some random retard from this thread who is in said trooncord giving advice to euge. it's fucked chief, don't get your hopes up
I will join every single discord possible for any local model to assist in poisoning the well to ensure NAI v4's victory.
>>8246109i'm pretty sure that's a different anon, plus euge doesn't seem to be paying too much attention to westoids in the first placein any case i don't have any hope in this model for the simple fact that euge is the one baking it
>>8246105Their interaction does make Jordach look retarded and cold-hearted, but he probably interacts with tree personally and does act more personal with him. He's an autist, could be the case that he's shy to express his condolences in public or something.
>>8246070i think you mistake him not caring with not knowing how to deal with it considering hes an autist hypersperg
This is pretty good, I do something similar plus https://dghs-imgutils.deepghs.org/main/api_doc/detect/booru_yolo.html to find poses
>>8246099I'm assuming this is the "normal" danbooru dataset from the same author on hf?:https://huggingface.co/datasets/deepghs/danbooru_newest
>>8246121yes but it says its just a supplement with newer images to nyankos danbooru dataset
How do I get rid of these artefacts (on hair and eyelashes) in my loras? Is is over- or under-cook?
>>8246127it's illustrious
>>8246127Wait for v1.0/2.0.
>>8245941>Since ampere they're the same speed iirc.just tested and bf16 is even faster by 0.2 it/s with xl on my pc, not so much of a difference in gens either
>>8246128I've seen a lot of good gens in here. And those melting nipples look straight out of SD1...There's definitely something with my loras.I use these settings: ~400 images per epoch (with repeats), batch=2, grad_accum=4, max_epoch=15 which is ~500 iters total.https://files.catbox.moe/h7959w.toml
>>8246135>those melting nipples look straight out of SD1it's gooknai
>>8246135>And those melting nipples look straight out of SD1...Nigger you're using a pre-alpha, what did you expect?
>>8246135>I've seen a lot of good gens in herePeople will obviously pick and choose something that they believe is good instead of just randomly uploading images. illustrious is just personally too unstable for me to want to spend time training on it before we have a 1.0 model or something.
>>8246127pray that the next meta model uses something higher than a 4ch vae
>>8246015https://litter.catbox.moe/7j32nb.jpgWe fixed the nonstandard behavior of the fluid, as it was too difficult to comprehend for some.
>>8246095Irotoridori no Sekaihttps://files.catbox.moe/awg4a1.safetensorsPrompts are the same as in https://civitai.com/models/476504/irotoridori-no-sekai-orExample images:https://files.catbox.moe/mp1mzf.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/kxhsoe.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dk9n6m.pngBishoujo MangekyouPrompts are the same as in https://files.catbox.moe/05iagq.safetensorshttps://civitai.com/models/516442/bishoujo-mangekyou-orExample images:https://files.catbox.moe/vrdoo7.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/9lqon0.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/j8dha3.png
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>>8246145thanks! i appreciate it
>>8246127use ip noise gamma. search archives for tomls using came+rex optimizer/scheduler
>>8246156I use that, you can see my config >>8246135
hey, derrian distro arrived to euge's 'cordexpectations about this model seems to raise up even more. i... don't wanna say anything about it. i don't really know if it's going to came out good or bad. i just can't until i actually try it when it comes out
>>8246165nobody cares about your ecelebs
>>8246120aa11 seems to be based, detects three parts at once
>>8246165Can he update easy scripts at least or something.
>>8246170Very Nice
>>8246177box?
>>8246181https://files.catbox.moe/r2c6y9.pngEnjoy
>>8246183>ssambateacool, that's a really nice style. thanks!
>>8246177Pony could never
>>8246186Angel is my angel
>>8245993>>8245996Thank you. Much better.
>>8246186>training a lora is so fucking hard mom
>>8246177sovlposting?
>>8246192Train all you want, kumar, you can't get rid of the pony smegma
>>8245988>>8245986Eh, it sorta worked? Honestly, worked better than I expected from that dataset. Outfit is a bit iffy, and the heterochromia can wind up backwards (And some of the dataset had it backwards too)https://mega.nz/file/7MIwiZ4Q#mIXXR-x19kNo_8UMOQKsNbSE1Udu32JlK24IQ0Rw5aY
>>8246189>>8246194who invited the trooncord posters to this thread?
>>8246203Astralite lost Anon, get over it
>>8246208what does that have to do with you having to return to where you came from? i haven't used pony in months
>>8246200
gooknai did irreparable damage to this thread
>>8246216Having been here since the NAI leak, no. Pony has unironically done much, much more damage to the thread than Illust has or ever will.
Gooknai and its gens have been a disaster for /aco/ sloppers
>>8246216gooknai did irreparable damage to my testicles
>>8246001While I want good text understanding as anyone else (more than 1 character tends to lead to misidentifying which tags apply to which character), won't this fail for 2 reasons:- CLIP is a retard, you would need to add t5 conditioning as an optional feature (do byt5 even if you want good text as well). I don't know if they have enough compute to give the network enough understanding of t5's embeds, but maybe some clever ways could be done.- what is he using to caption booru images? L3.2 isn't that good and there's some better options, but even if you had a good vision model, you will need to do an anime finetune, most of them do better on real life photos than anime. This inaccuracy will result in other issues as well - some DALL-E 3 issues come from this. Also text may need to be handled by a separate OCR network unless the current vision model is validated to handle long text. Not that CLIP will be able to handle long text captions.
>>8246224Same, I've lost gallons
>>8246222that post is an obvious baitpony really did fuck this place up really hard, sometimes felt like the general would be better off closed till further notice
>>8246222the quality of a model has nothing to do with the effect it has on the thread
>>8246229That is what NNN is for
>...Seriously?
>>8246224what is gooknai?and is https://civitai.com/models/795765/illustrious-xlthe model you lot are on about whats the problem with it, im like a year out of the loop
>>8246234irrumatio correction
>>8246235if you are good with artists tags, use illustrious (gooknai)if you are to lazy to use artists tags, use Pony
>>8246170Anon, I couldn't find the file "yolov8s_aa11.pt". Where can I download it?
>>8246240artist tags?you mean like aesthetics tags?or like specific artists like Asanagi?
>>8246238not /h/ and missing the covered nipples tag
>>8246235that's the one and why you're seeing the thread has regressed back to 1.5 tier slop minus the kino backgrounds
>>8246242https://huggingface.co/deepghs/booru_yolo
>>8246245specific artists, for example, this anon used ssambatea and quasarcake
>>8246249Thanks.
>>8246242https://huggingface.co/deepghs/booru_yolo/blob/main/yolov8s_aa11/model.pt
>>8246258wow, i did some worked with booru yolo for tagging some cartoon dataset, what is the use for it with stable diffusion?
>>8246261it's just yolo models for detecting whatever it was trained on for further autoinpaint, you can use it with adetailer or something similar in cumfy
i cant find an artist mix that i like in illustrious i want to kill myself aaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>8246270search this, most worked for mehttps://aibooru.online/posts?tags=novelai+-metadata_request+&z=5
>>8246270it's gooknai
Any new good cumfy nodes?
Wanna train a style for Illust. How many steps should I am for, aprox? I've got 214 good images prepped.
Has anyone else noticed Illustrious likes to add tears randomly to eyes? I can just put crying in negatives but I found it really odd
>>8246297It's not crying, it's tearing up
>>8246297>the shit undercooked model adds random unprompted garbage to imageswoah...
>>8246298it's not tearing up, it's tears
>>8246298>>8246301I haven't seen any tears or tearing in the clothing though so I think it's crying
>>8246296use ScheduleFree Adamw with constantwatch the samples and stop when they look good to you
butte
>>8246307
>>8246200thanks anon. I might make datasets for other charas too, since I like their designs and they're underappreciated. if it's too much of a hassle for you, maybe I could give training a shot myself, although I haven't baked since the 1.5 days, and only through colab with mostly default settings.
>>8245966Alright, here's the config you can try full-finetuning unet under on a 8gb gpu at 1024x.config.toml: https://files.catbox.moe/zfkkkw.tomldataset.toml: https://files.catbox.moe/0hffm6.tomlAdditionally, you may or may not need to set the environment variable PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:TrueSince this caches the text encoder outputs, you can't enable tag shuffling, but this is still a full-fledged unet finetune under 8gb, granted you don't have to patch anything. For some reason though this still consumes more VRAM than just moving the text encoder inference to another device. Since I don't own a 8gb gpu, I'd really like to hear whether it OOMs or not.
>>8246311why is kumiko's face so fried?
>>8246318its an older anime
>>8246318its gooknai
>>8246318it's
>>8246318gpu poor please undastand
i don't think i was degen enough when making this dataset, it keeps trying to make her tail come out of her butthole
>>8246314Oh, it's not a hassle at all, training it took less than half an hour. Regardless, I'd recommend giving training on your own a shot, its a nice skill to learn.
>>8246323anon.... ?it's a buttplug
>>8246323its gooknai
catboxed since it's not even /e/ but it's probably worth postinghttps://files.catbox.moe/tqb029.png
>>8246337cute
>>8246337my little commander stood up when looking at this image, should have posted it normally
I need a prompt to make it into the next highlights. I'm thinking pov cowgirl with some well known gacha character, but I'm fuzzy on the details.
>>8246328kotbox?
>>8246342i cant tell if it looks like this just because illustrious is so artifact-y and chunky or if it is the artists you are using
>>8246337kek
>>82463431girl, standing, cum in pussy, water, lake, forest, tree, bush, expressionless, looking at viewerand use a wide aspect ratio(you need the cum to make sure it's actually /h/ and not /e/)
>>8246314love these colors, catbox?
>>8246344https://files.catbox.moe/zrozka.png
>>8246254nice tits
>>8246315Thanks
>>8246337do you have a mega folder or something for your recent loras?
>>8246348someone gen this
/h/edg/
>>8246348https://litter.catbox.moe/gp5j55.png
>>8246365soul
>>8246351
>>8246358https://www.mediafire.com/folder/e9bd63vj786sfsome are a bit v1 tier and some require artist in prompt to activate(if the preview image is an x/y it'll need the artist tag).
>>8246343Just make it sex and make it anime. Easy.
>>8246363the amount of things you can do while remaining within /h/ context is actually really limited
whens the next version bluvoll-san
Any decent illustrious shitmixes yet?
>>8246380smoothft and it's not even a shitmix
>>8246380NoSmooth(SPO) has slightly more consistent hands/anatomy, that's about itAll the other shitmixes I've seen are mostly just retards baking in some default style that they like into Illustrious for whatever reason
>>8246222pony is the most insidious rot to ever afflict local image gen in general
>>8246343ciloranko, loli artist, other loli artist, twenty tags describing a penis, one tag of a popular female character
maan pony and illus, you need to feed them so many tags just to gen a decent image.
>>8246384t. got into imagegen a month ago
>>8246378guy needs a beret
Are there a lora or prompt for squished butt during ssex?
>>8246395I got into imagegen a little before wd 1.3 came out and I'm afraid I have to agree with that sentiment. A half-assed SDXL model that can do porn led to over half a year of pure suffering.
>>8246397Oh right kek, how could I forget , the design was there all the time
>>8246399The tag is ass_ripple Haven't tested it though
>>8246403works in illustrious, doesnt do much in pony
>Euge team asked b-chama to help them with captioning because she is the only one trying to make NL work>b-chama is a retard and can't help>Every other westoid has been completely ignored>No one even knows what they're working on>No one even knows what their test is forIt's pointless to do anything but wait and see if they release anything.
>>8246400that's nonsense. nobody was forcing you to use pony, and even if pony never released it's not like a real anime sdxl finetune would have magically appeared in its place. plus all memes aside if you were entirely incapable of getting anime images from pony you're just admitting to having a massive skill issuet. has been shittalking pony daily since january
>>8246393https://litter.catbox.moe/8fmgdr.png
I hate how fat Illustrious makes tongues
It's over for me boys... I haven't posted a gen all day because I've been busy...I'm not gonna make the highlights...
why does danbooru have separate tags for doll joints and robot joints but there's no tag for android panels ;_;
>>8246415Seems that the closest they have right now is the "metal skin" tag
>>8246417not quite what I'm looking for, I want cave story robot/dorothy haze panel lines on skin. they're easy enough to inpaint with (robot joints:0.4) but I wish I could just prompt them out of the box...
>>8246420Yeah, it seems they all just get the robot joints (and android or cyborg) tag and nothing more specific.
Jordach is going to deliver in 6 months
>>8246437At that point chinknai and v7 will literally be sucking my dick, how can it possibly compete?
>>8246440>chinknai will be unironically worse than arti>v7 lol
>>8246437so far it's taking him longer than a female elephant
>>8246455Ah right, yuuki yuna exists, I should try to do a magic girl collab at some point
>>8245847its kinda ass just had a quick morning fap https://files.catbox.moe/qansjr.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/77zuo4.png
>>8246440i dont wish bad things for anyone, but i dont think v7 can possibly be competitive given what we know about astral's decisions
>>8246457Nice to see someone else appreciates YuYuYu
>>8246461He'll pivot to openflux at the last second and win by virtue of the 16ch vae.
Good time to be a schizo enjoyerhttps://files.catbox.moe/q1o1b7.png
>>8246461astra's decisions have been overall better informed than euge's desu (not that this is saying much)
can i not post /e/ images here or you guys are just being trolls about it
>>8243922i've been testing this shit and finetune training seems very temperamental compared to lora, still haven't seen a clearly better result than lora as of yet, except that it takes on the style less for the concepts, which is pretty cool.also, idk who suggested quantile reduction shit but 7mb is just not enough for the complex concepts i'm trying to do for the 15-odd costume elements, i had to do 100% dim and then resize the resulting 700mb lora for something that looked accurate
>>8246464Damn, rad glitch effect
>>8246461if he's really fucking lucky pixart might not be shit and he can use that instead of auraflow.I'd guess that he's dragging his feet on purpose but I think that's giving him significantly too much credit.
>>8246461lol
>>8246467Of course you can
>>8246461I doubt it'll beat chink or even gooknai for anime but I think his retarded approach may have unironically been exactly what made pony work, so I'm still curious to see it
>>82464671girling is good for the soul
>>8246461It'll be DOA for our side of things, I'm sure the realism jeets will love it though.
>>8246467just add large penis, dark-skinned male, asura asurauser to every prompt
>>8246467you can and you should seethe violently at homos posting pics with m*les and dicks
>>8246467you can post whatever you want here, it's not like it matters since jannies will randomly ban you for actual /h/ if a girl looks slightly too small compared to the male. also the retards complaining about /e/ posts are baities so just ignore them.
>>8246483shit hasnt been deleted in weeks, quit being a drama queen
>>8246481>>8246482>>8246483copy
>>8246468It takes on the style less for the concepts, and it takes on the concepts less for the styles. It's just overall much more robust and it's not fucked by lora bullshit.>very temperamental compared to loraWhat problems have you encountered?>also, idk who suggested quantile reduction shitThat line was fucked, I updated it already. Try again if you don't mind, quantile is actually really good.How much VRAM do you have by the way?
>>8246486it has been crying about not being able to post pedoshit for years, you think it'll stop now?
>>8246467Simply follow what your heart and penis desires King
>>8245939where? i did try searching for them yes
>>8246490loss rate was extremely lower than expected leading to gigafry, nothing weird just lots of wasted bakes
>>824649024
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/123119985anyone know what this guy does to keep his consistency? real curious
>>8246455very hot catbox?
>>8246502looks like he upscales his images in a non retarded way
>>8246502What the fuck is consistent about that?
>>8246502it's nai
>>8246493sexy, what's artist?
>>8246504https://files.catbox.moe/axw9hk.png
>>8246502I mean simple background and being nude kek. Not rocket science
>>8246502Prompt the same character with the same artist mix? Shouldn't be very hard...
>>8246506scaling mostly, he seems to fine tune it well. or at least its mostly NAI doing the work.
>>8246509arrigato anon!
>>8246464Damn that's pretty cool, good discovery anon.
>>8246505how do you recommend upscaling images? just a simple 2pass workflow? or something more complex?
>>8246524there are a few ways, myself i do img2img upscale with promax (basically the same thing as anytest just another model by another person) https://huggingface.co/xinsir/controlnet-union-sdxl-1.0/tree/main
>>8246524For Illu genning natively at 1.5 base res with deep shrink and using high res fix for another 1.25 or so works well for me
>>8246518Yeah, it's awesome to have a model actually do cool stuff with insane schizo prompting unlike pony which is just awfulhttps://files.catbox.moe/y21bzn.png
>illustrious automatically makes the penis black incredible anti-NTR technology
>>8246529I've been enjoying the fuck out of having a model where media tags actually work. fake_photograph, faux_traditional_media, and impasto are all really good for fun compositions. The full Danbooru variety in borders, composition, effects... it's a breath of fresh air compared to rushed porn model.
>>8246534controlnet the "look at this photograph" meme for full effect
>>8246533>black>anti-NTR what?
>>8246539that poster is obviously black
>>8246529pure kino
>>8245383holy sameface, you could have used adetailer to change some details >[SEP]
>>8246534Yeah it actually shocks me sometimes with what it puts out from schizo prompts https://files.catbox.moe/5w1npd.png
I miss zac
>>8246032>>8246031if the boobs are not pressed together then its too small for a one piece girl
>>8246539you may want to sit down for this one anon, but the bird chav's romantic interest is an autistic black nerd
>>8246543Horrifying but great. I'm still surprised sometimes by how good eps colors can be, back in 1.5 I thought it was vpred or nothing with Fluffyrock but there's a lot more that goes into it.
>>8246545Ces, Gpo, Zac, Aua... it will never be the same. It's a shame Angel didn't lobotomize the model like Astralite did.. no more fun treasure hunts.
>>8246036no lamp on your headboard? do you even read?
Lax released that HF finetune on civit. Seems to do penises better but colors are kinda washed.https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xlThis line is funny though>-We are compelled to release an extremely premature version of this model against our wishes. wat?
>>8246534>>8246543>>8246529you could train a lora fucking retarded braindead shills
>>8246542I did use ADetailer. How does one use it to get different faces?
>the model that supposedly saved /hdg/>all anyone uses it for is to make /e/ or argue about /g/ shitso everyone shitposting about models for the past couple months were just people from other boards i guess
>>8246548Yeah the more I use the model, the more I realize how good the colors are. It's a bit rng still, but the colors are so much better than pony it's not even funny.
>>8246328Made a dataset for Era, just default skin this time, but only 15 images.https://mega.nz/folder/gnp1HbRD#N1Dgm_VuJYRm9kGsc90O9wI might try baking when I have more time and can spare the headache to get it running properly. I'd appreciate your config file, and maybe learning rate recommendations for 1 or 2 batch size, as I doubt I can do more on 8gb
>>8246552What are they even testing/training right now? It's not vpred and they don't have their revised dataset either.
>>8246541>bern acting all cutesy?????
>>8246553pony gens glow in the dark, can't be covered up
>>8246170I dont get what im looking at
>>8246561skill issue
>>8246552Hmm...
>>8246555>nogen complaining about nogens
>>8246560She was tricked by a illusion of futa Lambdadelta
>>8246552I don't think this is the HF one? It says this is 5 epochs
went from 16gb to 32gb ram today,decided to try high resolution..
>>8246569>decided to try high resolution..try it again but enable RAUNet and use a SMEA sampler
>>8246559No idea, I lurk the discord but they don't seem to know either>>8246568Oh oops, I don't have access to the HF one so I assumed. Wonder why they released it?
>>8246555>he needs to see another man with the girl to get offbwo?
>>8246569pleb, I was going to go from 32gb to 128gb today, but my delivery was delayed.
>>8246569https://github.com/nullquant/ComfyUI-BrushNet/blob/main/RAUNET.md
does animatedif work on reforge?
>>8246569kohya hiresfix or RAUnet, and stick to 1.5x scale vs regular SDXL for base genskohya seems to work gooder with gook
i think i'm either getting very lucky during testing or illustrious better than pony at handling asymmetry
>>8246552>>-We are compelled to release an extremely premature version of this model against our wishes.maybe he got tired of all the people requesting HF access? they really don't communicate with the english community at all, I think they've written westerners off as a waste of time and braincells
Deepshrink>RAUnet
>>8246580>I think they've written westerners off as a waste of time and braincellsmaybe there's hope for them after all...
>>8246573it isnt an issue to have this opinion but then why post on the hentai board if you just want to post ecchi or /g/ related sfw stuff?
>>8246581>no gen
>>8246580Based, they should completely ignore all the westoid retards and go their own way.
>>8246582>maybe there's hope for them after all...I mean it was pretty clear they were just offering lipservice and not taking much of it with more than a grain of salt. they've already decided what they want to do it seems like, for better or worse. I do wish they'd throw us some updates here and there though, or just say "hey we're doing x, y and z, help us with these things or don't"
>>8246554you describe each face and use the lora and quality tag each time, prompt would look like:>score9, scorex..., artist lora1, artist lora2, character lora, 1girl, blue eyes, full lips, smug, [SEP], score9, score x..., artist lora1, artist lora2, character lora, 1girl, green eyes, full lips, angry, mole bellow mouth, [SEP], score9, score x..., artist lora1, artist lora x, character lora, 1girl, yellow eyes, one eye closed, makeup, this way each face has a different adetailer prompt, you separate with [SEP] and you can skip a character with [SKIP] (very useful for faceless male)
>>8246552>full danbooru>full e621>13M images>on top of illu>5 epochsI mean..
>>8246578on pony my XYs comparing the two seemed pretty close for 1.5x scale, and RAUnet was clearly ahead for 2x, and a little bit faster overall, and had more options to play withbut it's giving me lots of noise and fucked up shit on illustrious
>>8246566kill yourself /g/-posting gook shill
>>8246583why don't you go to /y/ to ogle those delicious dicks you wish to see?
>>8246593what is with your obsession with penises?
>>8246589I'm actually liking it so far when running my existing prompts, seems to have less artifacts/better anatomy/better PENISES/etc.. colors dont seem worse either? Of course, this could all change after another hour of testing it so who knows.
>>8246596purple eyes, 1girl, short hair, smile, open mouth, ruffled blouse, red blouse, pleated skirt, blonde hair, green scarf, pointing at viewer, blunt bangs, blue skirt, foreshortening, fang
Why it worked so well lmao>https://files.catbox.moe/b4trcu.png
>>8246580Can't blame him the first couple of days was a shit show. Everybody just wants their compute to experiment rather than give actual help.
>>8246595i ain't the one throwing a fit about people posting pictures that focus entirely on sexy women lil faggy
>>8246585Sources:1. It is known2. Just test it yourself you lazy gooner. Jordach was right about /hdg/3. It was revealed to me in a dream4. Trust me, bro
>>8246601>keeps bringing up penises and homosexuals completely out of nowhere???
>>8246604damn, your denial runs deep fagboi
>>8246607>keeps doing itcan you go a single post without thinking about men and penis lmao
>>8246552It's much cleaner with some style mixes, also upscales nicely.For example this mix I copied from some random NAI prompt is pretty blurry on illustrious, but looks nice and clean on LAX finetune:>joker \(stjoker\), tianliang duohe fangdongye, jonpei, quasarcake, realistic, yamakawa, observerz, zuizi, (onineko,:1.1), lam \(ramdayo\),, (as109,:0.9), (hito komoru,:1.1)Even that very small plush toy looks pretty decent after upscaling kek.
>>8246552This is actually really good wtf
Is there a way to save the current prompt in forge to the styles list under the generate button? I remember doing so with just a click in a1111 a year-ish ago.
>>8246606Perspective machine :B:roke
>>8246611wtf is wrong with her legs
>>8246552Definitely seems way more stable than what we had before. It even kind of has a default style when you gen without artist tags.
>>8246552>every single sample image has faded colors like pony>all this samefaggingwhat the fuck is with the shilling that occurs in this thread
>>8246609Yeah could be just my mix was playing shitty. I'll try some others and see how they do.
>>8246458based and thanks
>>8246616>faded colorsIts sdxl, sir
>>8246608can't tell if this is a bot or the average mentally ill fag
>>8246552Alright, this is big, getting great results from this, much easier to use and looks better.
>>8246620>still cant go a single post without mentioning fagskek mind broken
>>82466164ch vae...
>>8246617You may want to raise CFG if it's too washed out, but in general it is indeed a bit more grey at times and gens may need (color) correction.
>>8246616Turn the contrast on your monitor up retard
>>8246616you can easily fix it with a lora dumbass
>>8246552Yeah. I'm convinced. If you are using Illustrious or any kind of Illustrious shitmix then delete those and switch to this.
>>8246623>nooooooo, stop calling me a fagno
someone please contact LAX and tell him that he should have been training a full finetune instead of a lora to make the colors pop
>>8246630i guess you cant help it if you have men and dick on your mind constantlyyikes! praying for you bud
Have the colors popped yet?
>>8246634Good morning sar, could you please redeem the colors?
>>8246632>projecting xis faggotry on othersdon't cry too hard bitch
>>8246558As for settings, I'm just using https://files.catbox.moe/ws3ndq.tomlfrom the last thread.As for the data set, is 15 images really enough?
I'm going to train my first multicharacter lora (around 3 atm) are there any settings I need to change from the usual? for example should I go from 16/16 to 32/32
>>8246637uh oh another post where he cant help himself mentioning his love for boys! meltie meltie!
>>8246634>>8246635is this some sort of raid? why do those shills keep posting sfw pics?
>>8246639idk maybe. dim 32 has been enough for 3girls and a few outfits for each one for me in the past
>>8246643>another fag that needs to see dick to get offwhat is this some sort of raid?
>>8246643is this some kind of raid? why do these people questioning raids not post pictures at all?
>>8246634wtf this pops harder than the colors in miqomix, I'm going to go spending my remaining anals
>>8246643>nogen nigger
>>8246640nigga use chat gpt or something to shitpost for you, this is embarrassing
copying illustrious proompts into noob gook: worse colors/contrast, better fingers, maybe more coherent composition but too few samples to say
truly the best model for anime characters in the site, ive tried many MANY models that have been coming up recently but always end up going back to this one, unmatched in terms of prompt following and characters details against other anime models, lacks a bit on background details but if you want scenery there are models that focus on that.
>>8246651it took you 8 posts to not mention something gaynice work!
Well im sold on Illustrious one lora and i get a good hiromitsu-style. With pony it took 5.
nice style finetune on pure slop manga pages
>>8246609noobox?
>>8246653> lacks a bit on background details but if you want scenery there are models that focus on that.freaking 1.5 and all those anythings and mixes did that better
>>8246656who are you quoting
>>8246659Someone helps me!!!Why I always produce the strange photos with blue and other twisted color when I use score_10, score_8_up, score_7_up or when I use the "BREAK",clip 1 or 2 can`t solve this problem,VAE use automatic is in vain
>Replying to something not in greentext with "who are you quoting"Lurk for another twenty years before posting.
>>8246664>no cum or penisessaar, this is /h/ (meme)
I am having a hard time generating angles that look like they were taken of the interior from the corner of the room.Does anyone know of an effective prompt?
xy plot with illustrious and noobai when?
illustrious character loras work way better on noob
>>8246654>talk to a faggot>call it a faggotincredible concept
very much love the model, but the style is too incosistent to have it as a favorite
>>8246671i hope you can break this habit one day, it isnt healthy to think of gay shit so often
Do any of these checkpoints need a VAE? Like should I use the standard sdxl vae for this?
>>8246609
>>8246674yes, there is only one VAE
>>8246673guess you'd know, faggot
im retarded, is there a way to do a sequence of images in forge from the previous img2img?
k ill give noob gook a go for the next week or so
>>8246678uh oh there he goes again! maybe /y/ is more your speed?
>>8246657Sorry base res was genned with SMEA they i STILL haven't released because I'm a lazy retard: https://files.catbox.moe/magtsl.pngShould be okay if you gen without it, it's not anything like nai smea anyway.I'll clean up the code and release it some day..............
>>8246682you're gonna run out of tissues at this rate gaylord
>>8246667understood saar
>>8246686>wanting to suck cum off a gay dude's tissuesbro?
noobai still hates 3girls but not as much, i guess?
Suggestions on what to purge from the OP? The new template is pretty close to the character limit.
>>8246598This is so much cleaner, but it's clearly a bit undertrained...
>>8246688we don't need to hear about what you do with your gay buddies
>>8246691dont really need anything pony related in there anymore
>>8246691>Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
I did not know there was SEP and SKIP. thanks!
>>8246691Delete everything related to pony
>>8246691pony, nai, comfy
>>8246689i had one 3girls gen in illustrious that i put some extra clicks into, was pretty sensitive to going off the rails and noob gook did pretty good just copying the promptleft is supposed to be yoko littner
>>8246691Everything.
>>8246693go a reply without being gay, ill wait
finally, ai summer
>>8246703you can't no u your way out no matter how many times you try faggot
>>8246705i will continue to wait it seems!
>>8246704damn nice tits
>>8246691just leave reweik for ponyremove separate iopaint lineremove webui, there's literally no reason to use it now over forge/reforge
>>8246706nah, i think you'll keep replying with tears in your eye little faggot bitch
>>8246710
>>8246704Is there a reason why you don't use uniform pixelation with an extension or some other method? I like your gens but the wonky pixel shapes trigger my giga autism
>>8246710>>8246711Get a room, you two
https://mega.nz/folder/LVhSwLTZ#IP4LFhf_a4Kxi1bd0dmk1QUpdated my Amy Sorel Lora to Illust.Has both the SC4 and SC6 version, tagged as such. Epoch 5 started to have that white outline effect, so I went with 4 for the release.
>>8246713he would like that because he is gay
>>8246713crying fags will never be tolerated here
>>8246714My DICK is fucking DOIMANDS, thank you saar.
>>8246712>uniform pixelation with an extensioni don't know what you are even talking about
>>8246713They should settle their differences in the 'cord.
>>8246721a mutual jerk off and see who cums first?
flat color, muted color in negs for noob gook brought some smoothFT gook proompts back to lifealso 5MB is the biggest png ive ever genned at 1.5X scale, getting more pixels per clock cyclehttps://files.catbox.moe/52uq1n.pngcatboxed because sfw/non-h
>snoot challenge
>>8246719You're welcome. I mainly use it to give her massive tits.
>>8246723Kino
>nooooo, im not gay stop calling me gay ur gay!!!!>starts talking about xis fantasies of jerking off with other men on discordlmao
>>8246731can you stop being gay for 5 minutes?
also i was using (ciloranko:0) and (realistic:0) in gook as a cleanup hack. results improve overall just deleting those in noob AI
style loras also work ok on noobaidesu idk why the page has so many disclaimers about this being early access or whatever, this seems like a straight upgrade over illustrious. 5 epochs on their gigantic dataset also seems like a lot to me, i didn't expect all of my illustrious training to just transfer over.sucks for angelbottomless i guess but i'm looking forward to future releases of this model and whatever this team winds up doing with their 512 h100s
I like noobhttps://files.catbox.moe/u0kehh.png
>>8246735>yet another "no u"pathetic
>>8246739okay here ill make it easier because you cant stop being gaygo 5 minutes without replying to me or referring to me indirectly
>>8246709>>8246698>>8246697>>8246694So this is how pony dies... with thunderous applause
>>8246720There are extensions for forge/reforge and comfy that will make pixel art into actual square pixels, like god intended. Merely a recommendation though, if you're happy with how it is then that's fine too. Keep it up hombre.
>>8246739>>8246740This conversation makes me nostalgic of grade school
>>8246740no deal gayboy. you're gonna have to come up with something better than>n-no y-you're gayor fuck off
>>8246747>couldnt even last 5 minutes without thinking of meanon...
>>8246402catbox plz
>>8246748i already told you to keep your gay fantasies to yourself
>>8246754you're gonna have to come up with something better than>n-no y-you're gayor fuck off
I may be getting in the mood genning anime girls, but it's thinking about anon that pushes me over the finish line!
>>8246755the uno reverse won't work when this entire time you've been shitting and pissing yourself because i called out your faggotry lmao
How will Astralite redeem himself in the face of the korean and chinese bakers absolutely mogging him?
>>8246742i found that all those algorithms work like shiet and the model itself is just much better at making sense of bigger pixels, even if it's wobbly and blurry zoomed in. for example you don't get such torn lines after img2img. and if you don't pixel peep it looks better.
>>8246759who is the person who first brought up fags and dicks, anon?i'll give you three tries!
>>8246760It doesn't matter. It's already over. To be free from western slop models is the greatest joy. Bless the gooks for saving /hdg/.
>>8246763>aieee you can't call a fag a fag, that makes you a fag!holy kek
>>8246760Before the chinks and gooks can claim his throne, they must first slay his heavenly generals. Nochekaiser and miqofag have already been slain, but ayakon-sama and cathag remain steadfast.
>>8246767talk about projectingthat was your first guess, two more!
>release two versions of a lora, one for pony and one for illustrious>pony version has significantly more upvotes in relation to its download count despite being worsefucked up that just posting a lora that works isn't good enough once you've moved off of pony...
>>8246769>denial, part 615
>>8246772oh damn, wrong again. ill repeat the question just in case you missed it>who is the person who first brought up fags and dicks, anon?last chance or you are a fag :(
>>8246761Ah that's fair, seems like a valid reason. Love you pixel-anon.
>>8246771the civitslopper jeets haven't latched on to illustrious yet and they probably never will since they already have their 3dpd finetunes for pony
>>8246773uh oh, since you can't read let me remind you >you've been shitting and pissing yourself because i called out your faggotry lmao
Trying out noob but the images aren't coming out very clear. I'm have a few bad quality tags in the negative and best quality and masterpiece in the positive. Being able to gen Haruka without a lora is nice.
>>8246775gook discord does not have the numbers to shill this garbage on civit so they flooded this place of shills
>>8246776uh oh fagit was actually you who first brought up both homosexuality as well as penises!please try to avoid being a fag in the future
>>8246779i learned of it here and i'll continue doing it for free :)
>>8246779okay rajeesh go back to posting your sepiaslop
Some faggot uploaded L-A-X's HF repo's test model to a public website because he didn't have a GPU to gen with. That's why they had to early release. I bet they won't be giving any more HF repo access thanks to this retard.
>>8246780sure, just don't be a faggot or fuck off and there's no need to point it out
>>8246787you would know about faggotry kek
>>8246785lol
>>8246785what's the point of keeping test epochs gatekept anyways?
>>8246785I bet it was EPIC, jeets been aiming for the projects downfall ever since WD was denied free reign of the chinq compute
>>8246788unfortunately you are here shitting up the thread all the time
>>8246793why do you spend all day hanging out with fags?
>>8246791probably because they are just tests and they didn't want to go through the effort of uploading everything themselves with documentation until it was something worth releasing, like they alluded to in their model description
>>8246796>until it was something worth releasingthis test version was already worth releasing
>>8246794posting in the same thread as you isn't hanging out, hate to break it to you
>>8246801dude you have spent the last 30 minutes talking only to me lmaowho are you fooling? yourself, gaylord?
>Can't upload a picture to CivitAI with "Lolita fashion" in the tags>Auto-tagger checks the image, adds Lolita fashion to it anywayI'm going to strangle these idiots one of these days.
>>8246798to you maybe, but it obviously wasn't finished to them. its obvious they didnt want to make a big release and write up for an epoch in
2 eggs arguing... how cute!
>>8246802your 30 minutes no ur the gay!!! sure isn't fooling anyone kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CYE6H3uDFo
>>8246785Well I'm glad to be able to use it now because I think it's better, but was perfectly happy before. Shame LAX, Angel and the rest probably hate westoids now since they seem to be the only hope for local, kek.
>>8246810but that was you
So which one of these fags is the most gay?
I like noob
>>8246814its looping back from pathetic to hilarious again
>>8246819reply to me again so i can cum, homo
just as we are recovering from ill, now noob.Is it really fully compatible with ill loras? We wont need to retrain stuff for noob?
Euge and friends delivered.. it's so fucking good.
should i still use Euler Ancestral CFG++ with noob
Would you two faggots either post gens, or stop shitting up the thread? Preferably both.
>>8246829you shouldn't have been using it for base gooknai in the first place
>>8246826lora's trained on korean model seem pretty much fine. they lose some potency but not a whole lot.haven't tried training on it, specifically, yet to see how that goes though.
>>8246828>>8246818For me it's worse than base illust...
>>8246829>Euler Ancestral CFG++No, it's a meme sampler that isn't even properly implemented.
>>8246832but euler a makes it looks like shit
>>8246834Genuinely don't know how that is possible, but if you enjoy insane artifacting more power to you.
>>8246836it's illustrious
>>8246835>meme sampler that isn't even properly implemented.Wouldn't that be local smea dy? Not that cfg++ isn't meme, but i've never heard it's not properly implemented.
>>8246829im using dpm++ 3m sde gpu cfg++, the more letters the better
>>8246837+5 social credit
Why aren't Novel AI images posted here?
>>8246844the NAI users are either posting in the QOS thread here or roleplaying as the girl in their gens on /slop/
>>8246837Never had any artifacts issues. Noob kinda looks less sovlful, less aesthetically pleasing. Maybe it's a skill issue.
>>8246847>Never had any artifacts issuesthan you are blind because every base illustrious gen is fucking fried
>>8246849Yup, it's a skill issue.
>>8246844nai users switched to illu
>>8246849Yours? Maybe. Mine were pristine.
>>8246851lol
We love BWC here
>>8246844nai users moved to the 'cord
illustrious walked so noob could run
>>8246854>We love cockNo, just you, fag.
>>8246853?non-smegma xl model is released, less reasons to pay extra 25 bucks for marginal improvementmaybe if you wanna gen from phone or while gaming/training/whatever
>>8246858>marginal improvementlmao
>>8246857>here the fag goes again
>>8246858>marginal improvementbreh...
>>8246406>>8246410Thanks for the marisa and reimu, they always go great together, both are on illu?
dicks and hands are still bad... can barely gen a handjob
>>8246860>>8246863yeah schizo-kun, marginal
>>8246866gay
>>8246867copius maximus
>>8246867keep telling yourself that my guy
>tfw no tired and disinterested handjob from a girl with twin drills How will I survive?
>>8246867NAI shills working overtime
>>8246609delicious cunny pantyhose toes
>>8246872very moe
if those are actual shills they might have picked the worst dumbest dalits from the dirtiest slums of india because they aren't doing any favors to nai by shilling like that, so yeah it's obvious falseflag
>>8246778https://files.catbox.moe/4rux3r.pngthe metadata is already there(use stealthpng)the lora can be found herehttps://mega.nz/folder/27AXgLSS#-ojw0WbGra04b2Aps31HBgUse the catboxed pic as reference for the prompt/sampler since getting that exact sketched look is pretty finicky
well im already back on illustriousXL_smoothftSPO
Nai4 doko? stubid localoids might actually catch up at this pace...
>>8246883Patrician taste, it's just more interesting.
https://litter.catbox.moe/ten9bt.png
>>8246887The colors pop, unironically.
Can noob actually do e621 stuff?
>>8246884>jumping from a better models to newer shittier onesno they won't lmao. it's a race to the bottom rn
>>8246889>>8246888Noob looks shiny... It reminds me of Slopmixv6_startWithThisOne.cestensors...
>>8246893It really does feel like pony again where they fucked the contrast all the way down, it's not sepia but all my gens are coming out really faded
>>8246804dont, you will get your hands dirty
https://files.catbox.moe/mr32e0.pngPony could never produce an image with this much soul
>>8246893It's vectorsCope https://litter.catbox.moe/6tcwcg.png I wonder if we ever could be free from fixing models this way on xl, only real chance if lax will succeed with vpred
the colors... don't see this being better than smoothft, it really is just a test epoch
Engage vectorcope
>>8246899Are bakers just blind or something? How does this get released?
>>8246552noob has more cleaner base outputs but the colors... yeah, hopefully they will sort this out on the next epochs
>>8246899what e621 does to a model in under a epoch...
>>8246901it wasn't supposed to be released dumbass
>>8246897I wonder what that face feels likehttps://files.catbox.moe/6qiswf.png
die noodleschizo
>>8246901>How does this get released?are you blind... they didn't want to release it, some fag uploaded it so they had to, to avoid him taking credit
>>8246905Did they slip and fall and misclick the upload button civitai? lol what are you talking about
sepiaaaa~
ignore
>>8246902how much does negging monochrome, greyscale and adding colorful as a quality tag alleviate it?
>>8246907You are getting slower each time, I have posted many gens already, shame
>>8246909Read the thread retard-kun
>>8246914nah just tell me if you are so smartotherwise it's copr
>>8246899their hunyuan model was kinda like this as well idk if its something they do in preprocessingor if its something angel did to make the colors look good
>>8246906Good question sirhttps://files.catbox.moe/ggrcd6.png
>>8246915you need to be at least 18 years old to post here
>>8246913you need to get faster at suicide
>>8246915Retard-kun...
post poses
>>8246844Local4lyfe losers were chewing crusty smegma for almost entire year while pragmatist chads are using whatever works. Local feels exciting again so why not play with it?
what negs for noob
>>8246912It doesn't seems to do much tbqh but I wouldn't worry too much about it as they clearly didn't want to share this one, maybe they already knew it sucks, maybe they don't, we just need to wait for the full releaseCatbox for the grid>https://files.catbox.moe/n3i8yw.png
>>8246925negative the model into your recycle bin, it's a test epoch and doesn't look too hot vs the light illust finetunes we have
TOPKEK it WAS EPIC who uploaded the lax model, LOOK AT THE METADATA ON THE PICTURE HE POSTED TO EUGE'S DISCORD. HAHAHA HOLY FUCK, THE TROONCORD COMEDY WRITES ITSELF! BROOO
>>8246912>>8246926Wait, but it looks better like that https://litter.catbox.moe/fx6z41.png
>>8246929post it here retard
>>8246903yesit improved dicks by a fuck ton but the monkey paw crawled and added a bit of sepiayou can't have it all
>>8246929BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (who?)
>>8246929Wtf it's real.. it's not a local gen
>>8246929where did he even upload the model? hf?
>>8246929Can't see any meta, stealth or otherwise.
Can't decide on noob. Seems to stabilize some things sure, but yeah, fucky colors.
...Who the fuck ordered the milk?
>>8246936It's the filename. Doesn't follow a1111 or comfy naming scheme.
>>8246935NTA but I'm guessing to one of those sites that lets you gen on the site if the user didn't have the GPU for it. Not sure if you can tell an image is genned on one of those in the metadata, I guess if it's not comfy or forge?
>>8246921
i like it so far, but it doesnt work well with some of the scheduling types i traditioanlly used.
>>8246936Discord doesn't wipe meta... Suss
>>8246944It's the coloring detail on the booba for me
>>8246929Chinese lost to a kid that they gave access to and people still think they will make naiv3 like model
i think my colors good in noobmy general negs:worst quality, censorship, sketch, artist name, multiple views, lowres, amputee, flat color, muted color
>>8246951They might and we'll never get it because retards keep ruining their trust in westoids. Gonna need Chinese national ID # to access finished model.
>>8246944Nice taihou, now gen her molesting a shota
>>8246941yeah you can tell from the metadata. we've actually had "people" post gens from those sites on here recently
whoopsthis >>8246881 meant for this >>8246751
>>8246929i just don't get it how asians are so susceptible to harassment, this retarded kid was pushing them to give him access to model and these faggots comply like a bunch of pussies for fuck sake, grow some fucking balls and tell him to fuck off
>>8246952also sampling like this
>>8246944Holy sloppa
>>8246955The westoids that they needed to bait and scam with compute because they are so clueless about training? Those guys needed help with choosing WD tagger and didn't bother even writing their own trainer, when vpred kohya is bugged and they didn't know about it because no one on their team even bothered testing it instead of finetuning illust
>Lax team member: I'm extremely tired and need to catch a plane early, this was very stressful, going to get some rest. We didn't want to write up details yet >Bl*v*ll: WHAT ABOUT TRAINING THE TENC?!!! He's got to be autistic, right?
>>8246967wow if they don't write their own trainer then how will they ever compete with neggles and jordach??
>>8246952Your colors was already too vibrant, so you probably wouldn't even notice
>>8246970raionbox?
>>8246967Oh yeah that's why they ignored all of the "great advice" right? Because it was so good and they needed it? LOL. The only people giving advice were absolute retards like bluvoll, neggles and yoinked, and they spent 95% of that "advice" arguing off topic and being useless. I feel bad for the chinks they even tried to read that shit at first.
>>8246969Good luck fixing code of kohya, making sure everything works fine, adding your own stuff to it while implementing support for multiple 8xh100 nodes when they don't know what tagger to use
>>8246975I highly doubt they needed discord faggots to tell them about wdtagger. They gave polite responses to everything even when they clearly weren't using it or planning to. Go suck off wd or whatever you normally do, with their great trainer that troongles totally got perfect and didn't keep fucking up his meager handful of busted epochs with because he set it up wrong. Laughable he goes on like that's something that should be used when he couldn't even cook his own model with it.
So, what's our general consensus about noobgooknai?
>>8246975>while implementing support for multiple 8xh100 nodesyou realize kohya already supports this via accelerate, right? you have no idea what you're talking about and are just parroting dumbshit, huh
>>8246977I will await washed out, pony like colored fine-tune of illustrious and base trained naiv3 like model then.
>>8246978waiting for them to actually finish it, improvement on a lot of things like dicks and artifacts though
>>8246978I would say if you have style you liked but it looks burnt on regular illustrious try it out, may just be better. Also if you really like penises use this one kek
>>8246981Kill yourself EPIC. Anyone with eyes can tell WD team didn't know shit while parading around like they had perfected everything. Didn't take the chinks long to figure it out either. You're the only one with the pooIQ to not realize it.
>>8246971https://litter.catbox.moe/kexl6k.png
>>8246968Yeah he's really hyperfocused on 1-2 things but whenever someone asks him how to implement his ideas en scale he disappears. Should've stuck to shitty sameface loras.
>>8246978isn't that model using a more recent dataset? why can't i gen zenless zone zero whores?
>>8246981this moron merged gook mixes with tpony-nai3 and kohakuhttps://civitai.com/models/823706/rmix-illustrious-sdxl-v01
>>8246984>Didn't take the chinks long to figure it out eitherThey had access to multiple h100 for at minimum two months, datasets, experience and settings from older models and all they did was washed out illustrious finetune?
>>8246586>white guilt and shameIf you hate yourse- oh wait you're not white.
>>8246993I'm not starting your retarded "they didn't cook muh models" shit. They were testing with Hunyuan before this, shut the fuck up already with your retard takes I'm tired of reading them every thread. You're so obvious
>>8246929how is this braindead retard not kicked from any discord he join, who enjoy his presence
Maybe astra is the best local baker after all...
>>8247002they have their Chinese only QQ chat to hide from him in, it's only the rest of us who have to suffer
>>8246993looks saturated enough to me, negging flat color, muted color, greyscalehttps://files.catbox.moe/cagi6i.png
>>8246978v0.1 of the finetune of a v0.1Its so good!!!We are reaching slop level that should not be reached
>>8247005doesnt matter, you cant get any good pr from allowing retard to wander around especially if they are kids trying to do furry porn AND leaking the model by being a drooling retard
>>8246993yeah so basically they're just like WD except the finetune they put out is actually a solid improvement over the base model and they haven't lost all of their compute immediately after
>>8246993it's ironic you'd say this after you just finished wiping neggles egg juice off your lips, considering what he managed with his cluster they said on discord the test model is mostly to test GPU nodes
>>8247011They probably mistook him for another average westoid. Someone should tell the team it was him if they didn't already know. I'm not making a trooncord just to snitch.
fox
uh oh, acoslop hours
>>8247028what's with your dismemberment fetishshouldn't you be posting to /d/ instead?
>>8246978potential but still needs time.i hate the coloring.
all these models fucking suck
yu-gi-oh card
From here on, all complaints must be accompanied by a gen.
>>8247028>>8247037cant even bother fixing the hands which take 30scyou unskilled lazy ass bitch
>>82470401 big titty, 1 smaller
>>8247039Your accompanying gen, sir?
>>8247037>>8247028very nice >>8247039>>8247033>nogen
>>8247038Can I get one freebie, based Amy poster?
>>8247043>nogen
>>8247038Looks nutritious. You can save on food with this girlfriend. Only need to feed her, and she'll be feeding you. It works like that, right?
>>8247051you can praise nice images without a gen, if you want to pointlessly complain put your own up to compare
>>8247053>nogen
>>8247055>>8247056>>8247053 No, no, he's got a point.
>>8247053>point out flaws and give objective criticism>n-n-nogen! complainer! anal autist!you should stick to just posting shit to leddit and stay the fuck away from here, faget.
>>8247064See this? THIS is what you reply to with>nogen
>>8247064>nogen
>>8247062>>8247069>nogen
>>8247069>>8247064>nogen
>>8247062>>8247064>>8247069>nogen
gen
>>8247077>genI'd rather you hadn't.
these threads are wild today
>>8246552does someone know the discord to ask for access on HF?
>>8247077based poster of sexy hentai. could you please post some more?
>>8247077take more than 5 seconds to actually look at hands, my dudeor at least stop being a literal fucking retard and change the filename append so you're not immediately recognizable if you're so damn thin-skinned
what is this? https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/pull/146
>>8247088Bruh... there's no way you won't recognize his gens even without the name.They are just...It's AYAKON.
I like his contributions, they are better than text only at least
>>8247080>>8247083>>8247085>>8247086>>8247088>>8247092>>8247097>nogen
>>8247092>reforgeyou guys are still using reforge? wai?
the stripe on the belt is supposed to be yellow but it's green in every single genit's over
Every Ayakon image brings us one step closer to next thread's highlights. Therefore he is based.
>>8247105It's in-between.
>>8247104I like it more than Forge and it is the only non-comfy implementation of RAUnet that I can find. I thought it was dead but it seems the creator has started updating again.
>>8247109>RAUnetI was never able to figure this out or how to get it to work. Apparently it's supposed to help with higher resolutions?
>Have spent 20+ minutes fucking with hands on a handjob gen that isn't even particularly good.Now I know why Ayakon doesn't bother.
>>8246638>>8246558Color me surprised, looks like it kinda worked even with that small dataset. I'm too tired and sick to do too much testing, have the last 3 Epochs and pick the one you like.https://mega.nz/folder/6JJDCJyS#LM6fAK1Kk2dk5s_Qz0Ce0Q
>>8247112im an OG shill for raunet and i dont use it on illust, i use kohya's deep shrink/hiresfixand yes, the idea is you generate at a higher base res without fucking shit upwhy RAUnet fucks up on illust? dunno
>>8247118nah, you just fell for the gook meme
>>8247118no you don't understand if you don't get perfect fingernails on the mans hand in the bottom of the screen it's unusable
tengus have 6 fingers
>>8247118bad hands = bad model. no exceptions.
>>8247123>>8247130Please bros... don't send me back to pony...
>>8247130so... every model is bad except for flux. got it.
Who needs hands when there are feet?
>>8247134flux is also bad
>>8247133keep suffering with the model fucking up the most basic shit then, and im not talking about hands
how the fuck does it take you 20 minutes to fix hands are you actually mentally disabled? it takes like 2 tops with the line tool and fill to make a working base then you just inpaint a little blob at like 0.3-0.4 denoise
>>8247147hot
>>8247147Share the metadata buddy
>>8247157the fuck is that in the background
>>8247160ghost of anime past.
>>8247157every style i try on illustrious is so...scratchyhow do i prevent that?
>>8247160its gooknai
>>8247130 Every model that has good hands and feet (when the hands or feet aren't scaled up to take a large part of the screen) simply overfit on them, prove me wrong, show me one base model that wasn't then later overfit on hands and feet just to make it get it right. It's similar to people doing aesthetics tunes.
>>8247165have a noob gook metadata https://files.catbox.moe/5za8ug.png
>>8247165i use SD, wouldnt know.
>>8247165also >>8247170 has some metadata
>>8246571>>8246575>>8246578cheers, found some japanese guy's guide of sorts on kohoya in forge, was helpfulit's funny how upscaling lower res pics gives you higher quality than actually generating at high resolutionyou live and learn i guess>>8246574i just started playing with sd like 4 days ago, and web ui crashing when making above 1000x1000 resolution pics was the last drop of my patience, as if demanding games crashing when browser with billion tabs is opened wasn't enoughnow after tasting 32gigs i want even more ram
>>8247169>norman_rockwell_style_illustriousXL_v01where did you get that lora? could you share it please
>>8246490its till fucking 7mb, it doesnt hold shit for info
>>8247180https://civitai.com/models/393322?modelVersionId=919108also seems perfectly compatible with noob
>>8247167autismdpo, aaaautsim, reweik all have fine hands. 4th tail is a significant upgrade over base pony in every single regard except hands, so of course it's completely unusable. If the idea is >all base models have bad hands!then I mean, maybe? flux has good hands but in general nobody uses base models for a reason.
>>8247188we unironically need an illustrious tag on civitai. can't believe i missed that lora, there is no way to tell which lora is for illustrious without the baker putting it on the lora's title
>>8247196 Yes, base models will typially have not the best hands, almost everyone that makes good hands does it by drilling this into the model, although sometimes it leads to unnaturalness in some ways. I like base models though, they have the most varied outputs, tunes that have much higher quality will usually be less variable/creative, it's a matter of taste or what you want, kino or slop?
>>8247192>mixed bracket types in the metadatawhat the fuck am I reading
>>8247215Schizophrenia
You can only choose one:better colors and bad genitalsOrbetter genitals but a slight sepia touch on your gensChoose wisely.
>>8247223Obviously the second one
>>8247220box?
>>8247223fuck pony, man fuck yourselves you penis sepia lovers I choose better colors cuz then I can just inpaint penises using another model kill yourselves
>>8247223im tired of lora hunting tbf
MUHHH 6gb lora roruuuuuu
>>8247227>increasing saturation in Photoshop Lmaooo btfo
i have a schizo innovationi really like the 3m sde gpu cfg++ sampler, but it fries "noisy" elements a little bitswitching the last step to euler A keeps the composition basically the same but alleviates oversharpening and excess noisehttps://files.catbox.moe/65xfyx.pngill XY some seeds tomorrow
>>8247231you can shave ps and vectors(cope) up your ass you gay idiot
>>8247233Based experimenter anon, I'll take a look when I'm more awake
>>8247236>>>/b/don't make me call jannie sama
>>8247231kill yourself ponyslopper
>>8247238>nogen
>>8247238pretty sure jannies abandoned these threads
>>8247245you wanna put it to the test?
>>8247157box?
>>8247197i don't know why there isn't, there's close to 200 illustrious models/checkpoints on civit while maybe half of the models that they added categories for have less than 20
Still not using your gook test pre-alpha model, call me when they release v1 and maybe it will be worth a shot
>>8247250such illustrious anatomy...
>>8247252Read their paper, they say v0.1 was trained for quite a while, it's hardly a "0.1", in fact some newer versions have synthetic data so they may not be as "good" and "pure" as you think.
>>8247258If they named it 0.1 it's for something.
>>8247260They probably wouldn't put an uncucked model on their site. I'd take GPT-4 base model weights any day if they were available, yet OpenAI would never offer an unslopped version that didn't have the dumb assistant persona. To each his own.
>>8247254How can it ever compete... with pony...
>>8247223Those are obviously not the only two options BUTof those two options there's an obvious winner.>something inherently wrong with the way it pulls from latent>poor colors that can be fixed in post, or with a negative, or an extension, or with another extension.Even if there weren't an objective answer for what's better for an image generation model, subjectively I still think it's retarded to even consider option A? Would you rather your monitor:>have slightly off colors>display the wrong image .t very stoned.
>>8246191Now I want to color some of my favorite doujinshi. Can you provide screenshot of your controlnet setting?
>>8247223I stopped worrying about the sepia thing like 6 months ago.Not my problem.
>>8246234What prompt can give outline a sketchy or blush look?
>fat mons,cleft of venus,erect nipples,toned,
How many dicks/pussies would you have to train into gook model to get rid of the censoring, asking for a gay/bi friend.
>>8247296Sadly erect nipples isn't a booru tag
>>8247303It might be pure placebo but I like to think it's having an effect.
>>8245723Dam i wish I was shota Kazuma
>>8246854faggot
>>8247310could just prompt huge nipple maybe?
>>8246862Box?
>>8247220style lora or can Illust actually just do this with the artist tag?
>>8246854>didnt even say "no homo"thats pretty gay bro
>>8245940Boxo?
>>8246546I agree, BIGGER
>>8247317Huge nipples seem to make them comically fat.https://files.catbox.moe/qr0ecy.pngI just want simple perky nips every time.https://files.catbox.moe/8zv6oc.png
>>8246524catbox please
>>8247320maybe khyle but I'm not sure.
>>8247326nta but what about negging inverted nipples? maybe it has that kind of effect
>>8247226Trying Noob.https://litter.catbox.moe/hf7v3g.png>>8247320It's a lora I train on base Illustrious, but I've been testing how it works with and without the innate artist tag.
any artists with a default anime style on illustrious?
>>8247333Well damn. I think that did the trick. How about that. Thanks anon.>>8247336Hot.
Why noob looks so much worse?
>>8247349it's over illlubros....
>>8247327https://files.catbox.moe/lbws1x.png
Sorry guys, I'm late to the party. Did I miss something?
Noob kinda peak ngl... the culimination of all our efforts thus far
>>8247336lora available or going to be?
>>8247326i see>>8247333smart
So what's the verdict on noob? Better than illu?
>>8247372Yes, if you're not mentally disabled.
>>8247372Way fucking better, just today everyone was dooming on Euge's project and then this drops
>>8247349It's definitely better with some artists, while totally ruin others. Welp, guess I'll keep both for now
>>8246145May I suggest/request specific vn for styles/artists? I know few potentially good looking ones
>>8247372feels more stiff to meposes are more dynamic on base illu
>>8247378Right seems to favor the newer Yuzusoft style honestly, both are accurateAlso is that a lora or did you just prompt kobuichi/muririn?>>8247379Oh I'm just using my own loras so far and they just work better imo
>>8247285That's more of my upscaling than my prompt, which is Latent x1.5 at 0.60 denoise. Plus I am using a style Lora. https://files.catbox.moe/f3pn2u.png
>>8247382the description says that its intended to replicate newer styles i think
>>8247382>Also is that a lora or did you just prompt kobuichi/muririn?recent, modern, game cg, yuzusoft, muririn, kobuichiNo lora. It totally looks better on noob, unlike >>8247349.What I can't get to work is g-yusuke art style. While it works more distinctive on >>8247349 it's still nowhere near what I see in game. I have never trained lora and I only have 8 gb vram, so honestly considering trying training on kkk and senshinkan as separate loras, but no idea where to start. Might exclude h-cgs tho, poses seem to look awful in most of them
>>8247359nice gen
>>8247393For my bishoujo mangekyou lora, although I included everything (and the posing is fucking insane with these), it came out just fine.If you want, send me a (You) and I'll train your set for you, always nice to have more visual novel styles.If you want to know my tagging method as well, I'd be happy to share
i forgot to remove the base_weights arg from the eunie illustrious lora that i trained, and while base_weights is broken it is somehow injecting random garbage into the model at the same time because the iteration without that arg is producing lower loss. and the lora that it was trying to merge with illustrious was a ponyxl style lora loli have no idea how my initial run even worked without NaNing or melting
>>8247377nice hand lol
>>8247400He says, while posting a gen with no hands.
>>8247400>fem diluch-hotbox p-please
>>8247394thanks
>>8247397>If you want, send me a (You) and I'll train your set for you, always nice to have more visual novel styles.Senshinkan https://exhentai.org/g/681394/a456984ef9/https://exhentai.org/g/810793/2a28acdc8a/https://exhentai.org/g/810926/1a0877f8b9/https://exhentai.org/g/810988/180bd96053/kkkhttps://exhentai.org/g/417606/0429ad9656/https://exhentai.org/g/417608/ac83e88eb8/kkk features much thicker lines, so I think making a separate lora for each would be better. Honestly, going to appreciate if you train these, but also please point me to a guide you use since I have some ideas I want to try later.
Is there a tool to quickly see metadata while browsing pixiv?
>>8247401heh...>>8247403i am resident fem diluc posterhttps://files.catbox.moe/59wvf6.png
>>8247404bigger resolutionhttps://files.catbox.moe/ttx650.png
tf is noob I've been gone for three days
>>8247409https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl
it's nai
>>8247409Some retard on euge discord leaked their model on one of those shitty anime gen website and they're forced t huge lease it early
can someone doxx EPIC so i can send him a pipebomb please
>>8247415what? that fucking jeet leaked it of all peop-- sorry, living "creatures"?
how do we know it was specifically EPIC again? don't get me wrong i think he should die anyways but there were plenty of retards who joined euge's server from the wd trooncord
>>8247415
>>8247400Yeah I should've cleaned the extra fingers on the 2 hands lmao>>8247405Oh I meant prepare the dataset, most of the time I don't like looking through CGs of games I haven't played (the reason why I haven't included the Yuki Onna Bishoujo Mangekyou game in my BiMan lora)
>>8247363It was a quick bake on Illustrious using old Pony settings. I haven't had a chance to try other settings, so I'd probably want to rebake this a couple times since it has some issues.>>8247372With Noob I can get more consistent results than on Illustrious. Illustrious can sometimes output schizo gens, but some of those results can be kino. Noob colors do seem to be more muted. Seems to get better if I increase CFG a bit when I img2img upscale.
>>8247419>Full dataset of e631...Why would you want that???
>>8247423so the furries also fund the model
>>8247421i might have a 40c fever but why is everything a day 1 nai leak-tier blob?
>>8247423NSFW anatomy anon, we learned this with pony.
>>8247419Why is your most used emoji uoooh, anon? Are you some kind of cunnyisseur?
>>8246988Can anyone answer me this please
>>8247423It makes the dicks suckable
>>8247421>Oh I meant prepare the datasetOh sure, I can. What resolution should I resize to? What about aspect ratio? What about sprites?
>>8247425Because I'm not goated at inpainting
>>8247426hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaahahhahahaahaha here's your (You)
>>8247432BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
>>8247423so the model becomes also a porn model and not an anime modelan anime model is not a porn model, hence why base illust is so bad at doing genitals but better than pony at everything elseanime and furry datasets complement eachother
>>8247419Ngl getting real tired of shitmixes, and even more when it's applied on top of a fucking alpha beta model.
>>8247430And what about cg/sprite variations?
>>8247435Here's your source_pony
>hehe youre a ___kek
>>8247438show me those wonderful genitals naiv1 and illust can do then, no inpaint and no loras allowed
just woke upwhat happened in euge discord regarding this "EPIC" troon?
>>8247441Who the fuck cares, post a gen or talk about gens.
>>8247430>Resolution and aspect ratioJust providing the dataset and tags should be good enough, I'll deal with upscaling if you want.As for workflow, just look at the characters and establish a tagging scheme for the characters and outfits. For reference, the trigger words on the civitai page for my BiMan lora are what I used as my tagging scheme. I added all the tags from the tagging scheme to each character and outfit, ran the autotagger, and removed similar/wrong tags.If you want to try your hand at upscaling, I now use remacri to upscale the dataset. As long as it's close to 1024x1024 pixels, it should be fine.>spritesI include those in my dataset as well, here's my old Iroseka dataset for reference (don't upscale to the resolutions I did lol):https://huggingface.co/datasets/Silveresque/Irotoridori_no_Sekai/tree/main
>>8247440i'll trade genning with mosaic censorship forever over poisoning the dataset with millions of disgusting furfag garbage
>>8247444Based
>>8247443Forgot to include the civitai page for my BiMan lora lol https://civitai.com/models/516442/bishoujo-mangekyou-or
why won't you retards understand that the problem with pony isn't that it has furries in it, it's because the data set is tiny and lopsided, even astra realized this
>>8247448then why did a mere 5 epochs with the furry dataset already fill gooknai with sepia?
>>8247448Don't care, still don't want furfags yiffing up my models.
>>8247448and the captionsand the training parametersand the bucketingand the western comicsand the hashed shit interfering with the captions and CLIPand the furfag shitand the arbitrary aesthetic gradientsand the arbitrary scores and the arbitrary score_and_up(s)and the overfrying and the sepia
>>8247447>>8247443alright, I'll look into it later, thanks
>>8247452holy shit guys it's bizarro astralitehe will prune pony and furry
>>8247437>CG and sprite variationsI go ahead and cherrypick what I want in my dataset and stuff that will add accurate variation in gensFor sexual CG:Variations with varying levels of cum, pussy juices, saliva, etcFor sprite variations:Alternate between different expressions, smile, crying, blush, parted lips, one eye closed, averting eyes. I try to do this with the CG too.
>>8247452the Baker we need but will never deserve
>>8247455that's the one lesson we should all learn from astralite's example
>>8247453don't forget about the "imma turn to jpg the whole dataset 2 FUCKING TIMES hehe, yeah, youre a genius astralite" one
>>8247451is this shitposting or did someone actually post x/y grids?
>>8247460still ended up with less artifacts than illustrious somehow
>>8247460yeah thanks i had a hunch i was missing some sub-nepal IQ bullshit
>>8247463is this the power of lanczos?
>>8247463Go use base pony again without any loras
>>8247463Aren't we using a pre alpha beta test version of illustrious?
>>8247467where did i say that base pony has no artifacts? it should be obvious that pony had less of an artifact problem than illustrious if you were actually here when both models dropped
WAPOW!
uhhh ponybros our response???
>>8247468We went from alpha to beta testing
>>8247461I posted some earlier. It's noticeabaaly less saturated
>>8247419bunch of chinaman commentslet the shitshill begin
which shitbake we gonna jump on tomorrow boys?
>>8247477pony v7 through the trooncord bot
>>8247477Now we wait for the next version of Illustrious/full version of Noob
jordach is gonna mount a comeback with the glowie compute, i can feel it in my bones
did the chink team even say what the fuck they're supposed to be testing with this bake?
>>8247483This was a test model. They just released this version as is because some guy uploaded this test model.
I don't see the appeal for saas anymore. Local got hardware now and the only thing we need to completely stop relying on saas is a new architecture, smarter than SDXL, that uses a 16ch vae while maintaining around same vram requirements as of SDXL's, and has no problems about color range or doing things like true white/black pixels. If we ever get an architecture like that, then saas would have no appeal for any person, except if saas somehow creates the waifu that comes out of your screen and can actually suck your dick.
>>8247484Did they mention estimated release date? Maybe this year or next year?
>>8247486They've got clearance to use the GPUs at full capacity until around Christmas/the new year apparently, so sometime around then we can expect their finalized model.
>>8247485>uses a 16ch vae while maintaining around same vram requirements as of SDXLlol
>>8247485>uses a 16ch vae while maintaining around same vram requirements as of SDXL'somegalul
>>8247181Press f5 in the rentry.
>>8247489You don't realize how much things can be optimized, do you? Do i need to remind you that SDXL was pretrained using a barely SLIGHTLY better dataset than sd1.5?
>>8247485You underestimate poorfags. They would rather stick with their phones. Many don't even own a PC.
>>8247485this >>824748916GB should be a minimum, but multi-gpu support would also be nice
today I remind themhttps://rentry.org/ideal_diffusion
>no gen
can someone post a grid showing illustrious vs sdxl noob and genitalia? curious if it's an actual improvement and haven't found any scrolling through the thread yet
>>8247496Nice anatomy.
>>8247498>no technical knowledge sharedit's useless
i will rule you all forever, no amount of compute can save you
no, i am the true king of all
sisters
>Since the training of this version started before the official version training strategy was formulated, it does not carry the strategy proposed in the channel. The official version will be trained using a very different strategy.So is he saying this was trained prior to his announcement of trying to train vpred? what happened with that anyway, did they figure it out?
I need some pregnant gens for ideas, show me your favorites
>>8247522based
>>8246938I did, and I want it straight from the tap
>>8247419So this is the power of Chinese team made out of multiple PhDs without dumb western advice...
>>8247528was getting owned by a random indian kid part of their plan?
>>8247519If they needed NAI paper to consider training vpred, the project is already doomed.
What is that
1girl, can opener
Newfag here so can anyone tell me the technical details as to why NAI is so good?
>>82475481. having multiple competent people making the same model2. v-prediction and zero terminal snr3. some dataset/token fuckery no one has a clue about4. money for long compute times, bake for atleast 3000 epochs
>>8247548Talent, compute, vision, direction. Maybe local will finally catch up a year later, but sounds like shitting out another cope sepiaslop model is on the table too.
>>8247551we won't have a local model as good as nai3 even a year from now
>>8247548a fuckton of compute, some talent, and little to no retarded "moral" issues
>>8247485i agree, but we will never get rid of SaaS just like we will never get rid of console gaming
any saturation lora?
>>8247551>Maybe local will finally catch up a year laterlollmaonot with realism jeets
>>8247556vectorcope
>>8247419>>8247423>we're getting Pony 2 Electric Boogaloo
>>8247558Doesn't seem to work on my comfy user interface
>>8247560for all your post processing needshttps://github.com/jtydhr88/ComfyUI-ImageMagick
>>8247550>competentLOL
>>8247560It works just fine in comfy though, I use it myself. But maybe listen to >>8247561 instead
>>8247485What? Isn't the compute for like 2-3 months? You want to do a new arch with that? Bro just pray that they'll be able to do a non-failed sdxl vpred bake, that should be your highest expectation from all this.There's still big room for improvement for the models, the question is whether analtan would be able to deliver. If they do, the seethe, cope and delusion will be absolutely surreal once again.
>>8247548Only compute. If our lovely bakers that everyone here loves had access to such among of compute, we would already have better models than NAIv3
>>8247568this but post-ironically
reminder that nothing revealed in the nai paper was important. they padded it out with a large section on 2+ year old info like bucketing and batching. the actual important techniques, like smea and vibe transfer, remain a secret as they will be used in v4. the paper was basically their way of saying "congrats, at least you guessed some stuff stuff correctly"
>>8247565I have a lot of shit that patches the model on my end, maybe thats it, but I'll take a look>>8247561Thx
>>8247570guessed? they were talking about vpred and ztsnr from day 1 (and no local finetuner bothered listening, of course). the one part about nai's paper that we didn't know was that they finetuned the vae somehow
>the exact same conversation for the 100th timeamazing
>>8247574that's what nogen does to a mfer
>>8247572>no local finetuner bothered listening, of courseThe amount of hatred WD accumulated on hdg deleted them from existence I guess
save us catbro
>>8247577who?
save us cunny posters
>>8247580mmm you are a cutie show your butthole im stroking
angel is talking shit about chinknai on discord...
>>8247583screenshots or die
>>8247584kill me
>>8247583assmad attention is no longer on him, huh? typical troon. might've given us illustrious but it was only a matter of time til the genderspecial shone through. we're never getting anything more out of angel anyway so who cares what it thinks
Angel just finished their sex change surgery... pics of the stink ditch got posted in the 'cord and this shit is terrifying...
>>8247585goodbye anon *unzips dick*
>>8247583angel was just pointing out some flaws. pic from himhttps://files.catbox.moe/43lzo9.png
>>8247587Why did neggles heart emote it??
what is chinknai, is it noobAI? i cant keep up with /hdg/ retarded names
>>8247589Awkward moment when illustrious v0.2 looks worse
>>8247591YeahBut gooknai is illustrious Chinqnai is like a 5 epoch test cook over illustrious True chinknai is yet to come
kiwifarms personality obsessionsad
>>8247593kek true
two more epochs
I've been in a coma, are Euge-chan and b-chama married yet?
>>8247580finally, some good fucking food
>>8247598b-chama left Euge-chan for LAX-sama Euge-chan also left b-chama for LAX-sama It's only a matter of time until the LAX-sama harem is complete. Full chapter updates are available on QQ, you'll have to wait for the translation.
>>8247600What a Chad...
>>8247600Where does Jordach fit into this?
Illustrious is already a massive success over anything so called experts are putting out, I don't think anyone else is remotely qualified to add their purely theoretical input because they've never applied it successfully or otherwise.The single greatest contribution that can be made towards these individuals is to leave them alone to cook
It's jordachover
>>8247602Furiously masturbating to Claude, his new waifu.
Tree bros, status?
>>8247606Dead (No refunds)
>>8247607fuck...
>>8247600great, I'm imagining trooncord lore as some xianxia drama anime now. thanks, /hdg/.
>>8247609Join the doublunaicluster sect
My favorite part of hentai AI is the gossip
>>8247612This but unironically. I didn't care at first but it grew on me
>some random gooks decide to bake model>they take the whole danbooru dataset>no arbitrary cucking it for muh i hate porn or muh ethics but still fap to baby horses>the model turns out goodWOOOOOOOW WHO WOULD'VE GUESSED
i just had a dream about someone posting itt that he cooked a really good vpred+ztsnr finetune, then immediately after a super obvious nai pic was posted with a black penis in it and everyone thought those two were the same posters
>>8247615These were MLK's last thoughts btw
>>8247612So strongly wrapped around each of these personalities you may as well be an onahole.
>>8247615Imagine dreaming about this general's drama. Unironically, touch grass bro
why isn't it "B--chama"?
how do I stop generating ai hentai in my dreams
>>8247621based
SIRS DO NOT LOOK
>>8247619Woah,That's deep.
MOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>8247621Cute adult wife
>>8247621BASED BASED BASED>>8247623>>8247625KILL YOURSELF
>>8247623AHHHHHH MY SCREEN TURNED TO ASH KETCHUM GAS
>>8247621a thousand-year-old dragon
Thank you jannies.
>>8247631That's why we can't have nice finetunes.
thank your sirs
>>8247632why does the dude have cum in his mouth
>>8247636sharing is caring
>>8247636He saw cunny posted earlier.
>>8247639Where are the twelve clits???
you ban cunnyyou get groidspamsimple as
So I figured I'd upload the Illustrious versions of my loras on civitai as well, but as I was making the previews I noticed that on Noob, the colors were noticeably less vibrant than they had been in the original dataset... Anyone try training on Noob directly yet and knows whether or not this can be fixed by doing just that? Or is the color range just fucked?
ChinkNAI is reminding me of a certain model...Maybe e621 was a mistake
>>8247645>basically the same images
>>8247648Let me guess, pony user?
>>8247645the worst images are middle though honestly
>>8247645Looks fine?
>>8247645Noob is a meme, let's wait for their proper finetune.
>>8247650so much thisi hate weebs with their flat pedo mania so muchgook and his shitty pedophilia model did irreparable damage to this place
>>8247653this but unironically
>>8247648>>8247650>>8247651I honestly can't tell whether this subhuman is baiting or 9 months of pony torture did even more lasting damage to aesthetic perception of localoids than I thought.
>>8247645try not to use aco artists
>>8247645I hate pony with a passion and I still can't see whatever it is you're seeing
NoobAI-XL seems to have a much higher resolution, and the backgrouds are also more detailed.
>>8247657You can't see sharp loss of contrast on the left? Like, not even speaking about the details, but a quick glance is enough to fucking see it.
>>8247655bro stop being a retard lol, the styles are inconsistent throughout the models, there are "better" images for each model, basically all placebo for now
>>8247660I really can't, and I'm trying to. Sorry man
>>8247662Probably bad display or something, lol.
>>8247660I think what you're trying to say is what I noticed when making previews too. It's not just contrast, some vibrance is also kinda affected
>>8247664That being said it's still by and large the best thing we have in local for now so I'd take the trade still
>>8247665Spo is better. You can easily tell >>8247645
>>8247667illu is bestspo looks like aomslop
>>8247667maybe if you like the fried slop aesthetic
>>8247669True. But spo has muh coherency. It's not that far behind aesthetically.
>>8247667NTA but it depends from my testing. Some styles are washed out as hell on noob but work ok on SPO and regular, and SPO burns stuff to a crisp but work on noob. I would try whatever mix you like on each one and see which one gives the best result
sub renew today... seems like i'm not cancelling, maybe one more month is enough for local to figure their shit out
tldr: it doesn't matter which model. if you're an absolute retard and can't prompt for shit, all your gens will come out like shitwow
>nogen
>>8247673oink
>>8247677>no meme arrowuh oh piggie
I wish this general was normal again instead of the same fucking buzzword-spewing tribalist nonsense that seems to plague every general on this hell site
>>8247492i still see bad advice that wont work unless you are training something extremely simple
>>8247686seethe
>>8247686>nogen
fellas how much ram does your comfyui tab uses? Like, it starts at 100, but as I spend time genning, it goes up, rn it's like 3.4 gb, that can't be the model loaded, as it shows on the cmd when viewing ram usage with the task manager
>>8247690>comfyui
>>8247690not that much, that's for sureyou probably have some custom node that memory leaks
>>8247687It's not supposed to be 7mb fucking retard.
Cocks do look better on noob, but it's absolutely washed outAnd smoothSPO already had better cocks than base illustHopefully they can fix the saturation, because it is less artifacty than illust
>>8247695ah i see the missing arg now
>>8247686It's as good as it gets after several invasions of /vg/ and /v/ faggots and severe local mindbreak (not meaning it in a bait way, that's literally what happened) that lasted for almost an entire year. I thought that even a good local model wouldn't save it but maybe with time this place will heal.
>>8247701can u send one of the images as catbox? thanks
Can I run Flux on 8GB VRAM?Asking for a friend haha
>>8247704https://files.catbox.moe/mc9iwd.png
>>8247703>local mindbreakyou mean pedo mindbreak
>>8247706technically
>noob brings back the foreskinForeskin bros.. are we back?
>>8247703why don't you mention all the shitposters from /b/???
>>8247703i just hope the lesson is learned and next time hdg won't jump to next astralite smegmabake just because it can do gangbangs perfectly. unsurprisingly, anime knowledge of styles, expressions, concepts and characters all matter for proper hentai.
>>8247706If you have like 32+ ram and ready to wait tens of minutes to gen - yeahDon't bother with the dev model, it suscks at anime and porn.
>>8247713>Pony gen
honestly, naishills are as annoying as horsefucker apologists
>>8247719Problem, nosegen?
>>8247717hentai is drawn porn, your autism about making sure there is no shading few people care about
there's also hentai-foundry and sexy miqo'te hentai. it's not all just your flat pedo hentai, chuddie
>>8247725i've said this before but if someone made an ufotale style lore and made porn with it, these retards would call it /aco/
>>8247728Hahah yeah, because all shading that isn't flat looks like pony's, right? And Miqomix was, in fact, finetuned on fate/zero screencaps, the style is literally identical.
>>8247730would bury face in
>>8247730catbox??
>>8247730i love black olives
>>8247730how to get style like this? im using civitai
>>8247746buy more buzz
noob has a respectable magical woman / glass breast press game.
>>8247747how can get buzz for free??
>>8247749kino
>sweat, steam
OK so I'm a retard trying to get this working. After hours of bullshit I managed to get SD running on my 16gb VRAM AMD card (problem was that I had to uninstall old nvidia gpu drivers).My commandline looks like this;set COMMANDLINE_ARGS= --skip-torch-cuda-test --precision full --no-half --device-id 0 --use-directml --disable-model-loading-ram-optimization --opt-sub-quad-attention --disable-nan-check --medvramApparently Pony XL is the go to, so I downloaded the model from herehttps://civitai.com/models/439889/prefect-pony-xl?modelVersionId=828380and put it in my models / Stable-diffusion folder. When I run webui-user.bat, I get errors such as>failed to create model quickly will retry using slow methodand>OSError: None is not a local folder and is not a valid model identifier listed on 'https://huggingface.co/models' If this is a private repository, make sure to pass a token having permission to this repo either by logging in with `huggingface-cli login` or by passing `token=<your_token>then my computer chimps out for 5 minutes or so, fans going so hard its about to fucking take off, computer runs slow as fuck, my ram (not vram) is maxed out on taskmanager. I select the perfect pony xl model (wait another 5 minutes for my computer to have a stroke), type something in, and if my computer doesnt crash after 5 minutes, it just generates colorful static. it is using vram now though. what the fuck is the deal I have 16gb of vram, 16gb of ram, ok ish CPU. what givescan a fellow /h/ gooner help out a friendly anonymous technophobe gooner
>>8247758>ponykek is this a troll?
>>8247758install linux
>>8247758I'll pray for your poor soul anon, it must be hard living with mental retardation
>>8247749thread highlight right here
>>8247758anon, cmon, there are countless youtube tutorials for you to follow
>>8247713box plz
>>8243922Tried this and finally got something that look like an artist style... Took me about 20epoch (1800-2000) iters. But damn, the final lora is like 800mb...
>>8247749boxo?
retrained a lora on noob to compare to a lora trained on base korean model with identical settings. a few other catboxed grid examples:https://files.catbox.moe/xrtwmj.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/b7k72y.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/3w9j8r.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/yeii8d.pngsome things to note:style transfer seems better with using the original lora for whatever reason. This could just be luck because lol training is le ranDUMB xD but it could also be a sign that LR's for lora training need to be adjusted upwards when training on noob.As well, colors get a fair bit better when training on noob(though still not great). I think this may just be a difference in models manifesting so using any lora's trained on illustrious proper on noob will almost undoubtedly end up with washed out colors.either way rerunning another lora(of a different artist) training off noob to double check.
>>8247754magic wand box?
>>8247756>>8247771i still think all those pixelation algorithms lose to bicubic compression during upscale...
I see the potential of NoobAI-XL but damn it's hard to control and it still has that clear AI look to it
>>8247781you could try pixeloe
turns out I'm too dumb to properly extract senshinkan cg, garbro only extracts some of them, so I'm giving up for now
>>8247787There's like 5 sets on panda
>>8247782>clear AI lookwhat does this even mean? That picture has no clear indicator apart from being slightly melted. Even the lighting is consistent
>>8247788>Torrent Download (0)
>>8247789A lot of AI images now have that same skin texture that got popular from NAI mixes
did anyone ever bring up nai inpaint among those model trainers? It's the feature I really miss on local. is it not feasible?
>>8247790It's just 30k GP bro...
>>8247793>been using panda for 14 years>no gpit's ok I'm going to figure it out eventually there is no cg rip for AA version of KKK anyway
>>8247795You have to play their dumb browser game, pay them, fulfill bounties or have popular comments/galleries.
>>8247796you can also set up a gp farming machine in your basement
>>8247789melted, coloring style. You can tell at a glance
>>8247789the shading and skin texture is a huge giveaway
>>8247799>>8247800Switch out one or two artists and you get completely different shading and style. Neither Illu nor noob have some strongly baked in base style. Only limiting factors are the 4ch vae swallowing skin details and the model being non-vpred
>>8247778gacha and this artist has low resultshttps://files.catbox.moe/jdtrar.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/s5oer0.png
>>8247784this is so much better at preserving lines but it creates an obscene amount of weird color glow if you set colors to a small number
What are some good vectorcope settings for noob?
experimenting with the new model, it's fun and quite capable.last few experimental scraps before I go on a work trip, see you never
>>8247809Good luck wagie anon, be safe
>>8247806or rather you'd call this blur i suppose, and it's kinda visible at highres
https://files.catbox.moe/cijp2l.png
>>8247809Show colleagues some of your smut :)
>>8247809Are the length marking inpainted? I'm having trouble genning it
>>8247758Listen to >>8247760. There's technically ways to run that stuff on windows, but as a fellow amd bro, let me tell you it's not worth the headache. Just install linux (ubuntu should work fine I think if you don't want a specific distro) and a webui of your choice with the rocm versions of the pytorch libraries. Some UIs do the work for you i think, some have forks for amd like forge and some just tell you in the readme like comfy. I could give you a step by step for comfy, but you will probably want to use a different UI if you're just getting started.Overall It's comparatively easy nowadays and once installed it just works. Probably not as quick as amd, but unless you're doing flux atuff, the gen times of the 6000 and 7000 amd gpus are acceptable imo.
>>8247816mistoline controlnet
>>8247809what artist are you using? came out really clean
>>8247820*not as quick as nvdia
>>8247829local could never
>>8247730But some /h/ on that gen
>>8247834broken finger
>>8247802I should find an artist that has a style with visible brush strokes and thick lines, I think it helps hiding the AI nature of the images
>>8247836Might I recommend pony?
>>8247814>tfw we live in a world where I can't say I find this hot and I imagine myself as the shota even if it's a fictional scenario
>>8247777part 2catbox grids for identical promptshttps://files.catbox.moe/lgkqoe.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/sb9rhh.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/wiblxc.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/se083x.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/c829rq.pngmore or less identical findings. the style transfer is a bit harder to gauge but the colors are definitely deeper on the lora trained on noobs.So I guess the conclusion is that if you use illustrious lora's on noobs it'll be washed out and if you don't want that you need lora's to be retrained using noobs as the base. Whether or not this is actually worth it is a different story, though.
>>8247835Oh yeah, thanks for spotting.
>>8247777what's the bottom lora? I like that style
>>8247836You think this helps (guweiz, mochirong, realistic)?
>>8247834gatobox me up spotty, nice gen
>>8247847https://www.mediafire.com/folder/f1uuqrzy5s83e/arako_o
>>8246978It made me finally switch from my ponylolimix so that's something.
>>8247848thanks for the suggestion, but I'm looking for chonky lines, like marker art, while this has a lot of tiny dirty ones that I'm afraid will look mushy if I ever prompt detailed things like a zipper>>8247850thanks!
>>8246978I like it and it once again does showcase that we are looking at a model with loads of potentional, but after playing around with it for a while I still ended up going back to Pony.I will continue to wait for the equivalent of a 1.0, but if you need character knowledge or want artist then I can see why people are switching to it.
>>8247849Sorry anon, I'm using someone's half-done bake and I promised not to give stuff away, so I can only give you prompt:"ataruman, masterpiece \(quality\), best quality, 1boy,1girl, completely nude, top down bottom up, face on floor, pinned, head pinned down, fucked silly, rolling eyes, open mouth, drool, cum, facial, cum on back, sex, hetero, sex from behind, rough sex, black background, blue eyes, half-closed eyes"this is illustrious based, so you'll likely get almost there with illust.
>>8247840Just to be clear, these are both adults
>>8247855ryangoslingscreaming.png
>>8247787I had 2 programs for extracting CG from games before but I guess they got nuked when my Windows killed itself a few weeks ago. Good luck anon
>>8247841Nice to see it wasn't me overthinking that it might just be the lora that just so happens to not translate over well. In the middle of retraining everything rn
>>8247855so are these. Left woman is just kneeling in the pool to get a better angle.
>>8247862I have a very good idea about how to do it with existing tool. Worst case scenario I can just take screenshots of cg gallery with 100% save in-game, but won't be able to get all sprites this way. Already played both games, so at least don't need to worry about getting spoiled.
Okay, I may be stupid, but the method laid out here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OjbjU5AOz4Ftn9xHQrX3oFQGhQ6RDUuXQipnQ9gn6tU/edit?usp=drivesdkshould also work for Image Gen Models, right? Would it be desirable? The "No loss of original knowledge" seems pretty promising and apparently it perfoms well on the LLM side.But are Loras enough to finetune in image gen? Could we use Loras to fix gook/pony/etc? Or would it be too little? Not too knowledgable on that stuff.
>>8247868Just do a finetune and extract lora
>>8247782this + >>8247850not bad
>>8247864it's not really much of a surprise. I've noticed that illustrious has a lot of really weird color issues, almost definitely because it's undertrained and doesn't have all of its shit properly in order. noobs seems to improve this a bit, maybe at the cost of being a little more drab out of the box? But the color trainability is better regardless.that said, it's still not quite there yet. For all the bitching of sepia brown tone bullshit, colors on pony were significantly more trainable for whatever reason.
>>8247829anon, this is local...
So far I feel noob marginally beats illu smooth SPO in anatomy (unless you're doing horsecock, in which case it's much better kek), but the loss in detail is quite large even disregarding the color. Maybe the loss in detail could be made up with different sampler/scheduler (I used dpm2pp_2m, ays at 30/20 steps, 5.5 cfg split 50/50 with pag) but I need to experiment more. I picked these artists at random to avoid cherry picking, each pair is the same artist and they all use the same seed of 30.These might or might not be useful for anons, use it or disregard it. Comparisons between illu and noob, respectively:https://files.catbox.moe/y9shhh.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/d89v93.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/gz41m4.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/asj71o.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/o4m15a.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/lgv5r2.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/pjizcq.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/q7o11g.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0jpj3g.png
>>8247870Ah, didn't know that was possible. Looks lik this might even be what they were proposing. Is finetuning SDXL possible on 16GB AMD nowadays? I looked it up and people say that only 24gb can do it, but seeing as Flux can be finetuned on less, maybe SDXL can be too?
>>8247879>16GBYeah>AMDI have no idea.
wow noob sucks so bad lol
>>8247877maybe in your dreams, localoid. Bet you count ponies instead of sheep, sepiaslopper
>>8247876I honestly have to wonder for all the bitching of colors on Pony that how many of those people are still using the default VAE. It doesn't solve the core issue but it does improve things somewhat.
>>8247883what sort of demographic are you trying to fool with this pathetic falseflag? nepalese?
this is a cool style isn't it?
>>8247878based comparer and yeah illust feels a lot more schizo allowing for more interesting composition and style while noob is more consistent and rigid
>>8247888nothing you will do will ever make it not look like AI
>>8247777nice experimentation anon but desu i think it's way too early to be training on noob. i'd at least wait until they get their first real bake together
>>8247888it really isn't
>>8247903this is bait. the /ic/ fags gave up raiding this general years ago anon
>>8247907its not bait its just a fact, might as well embrace it instead of cowering away from your AI porn
>>8247911(you) zzz
>>8247888dont think it work for doing porn
>>8247888Is it a specific artist? I like the blocky shading.
time to look for good mixeswildcard-chama save me
>>8247923it's a lora from this anon,>>8247850 I find it cool so I don't know if the schizo is just spamming or it is really ugly and I don't have taste
>>8247911>embrace it instead of cowering away from your AI pornlet's assume you're not baitingthere's still a huge fucking gap between aomslop and pics where the genner bothered with styling and making it appealingyes it's still ai but doesn't mean you should just give no fucks about the looks
>>8247831I assure you I'm a pure local baker
>>8247829catbox?
>>8247888ignore the fags that want all gens to look like asura pony slop, looks fine
>>8247924>gets anime model>proceeds to generate acoslop princess peach immediatelyBASED BASED BASEDadd some yellow filter please
>>8247119Thanks again anon
>>8247933falseflagging ponyslopper begone
>>8247934it's a shame that AI struggles so much in fine details and yet tries to push them in in things like sewing lines or zippers, because this chonky thick line style really looks cool
>>8247933who are you talking to
>>8247933princess rosalina is from a japanese company though??
>>8247929Of course not but it will never not be obvious that it is AI to anyone with half a brain. Its like trying to emulate 2D with 3D models, you can try but its never gonna look not like 3D
>>8247938Nah, the zippers are part of her design lol
reminder that it's impossible for AI generated images to be /aco/ as the artist producing the image is almost certainly taiwanese, and as a result the art is eastern in origin.
>>8247944that's a silly take, look at guilty gearthe thing holding back AI is the melted details and the fact that we trained our eyes on it, but people confused it with real art all the time at first
>>8247947I wish AI would understand the concept and try to make a chonky stylized zipper
>>8247951Yeah and Guilty Gear the literal best example of it still very much looks 3D
is there any way to have a wildcard go sequentially instead of random
>>8247964put in the tamecard folder instead
https://strawpoll.com/PKglePP8QZp
>>8247974Illu + Noob, different checkpoint for different prompts.
did noob adding e621 introduce any new styles at all? I'm trying some big hitters here but getting nothing
>>8247974>single choiceretard
https://files.catbox.moe/0ak4ci.png>ireading>gens the character readingBRAVO
>>8247981It was only for a few epochs so I doubt it was enough to learn anything significant
>>8247983sasuga clip-chan
huge dude with a tiny dick.
>>8247981do e621 tags even have any significant effect on it?
>>8247987It made it more obedient when it comes to sex concepts, that's a given
>>8247981How big was the dataset, batch size and did they train the TE? art styles work better if you train the TE.
ugh I may be nitpicky but character consistency in a sequence is still very hard to maintain, maybe I should train a lora on the character before prompting the sequence but it takes forever, and it's not like I have many consistent generations to train it anyway
Is there a way to specifically sort danbooru artists by popularity instead of post count? I'm curious as to seeing what artists people like (it's probably all going to be aco or 3d)
>>8248004order:score
>>8248004> it's probably all going to be aco or 3dIt's not, it's the gacha artists that are impossible to tell apart.
>>8247443Thanks for sharing datasets, anon
even with a fixed style prompt, the styles tend to sometimes vary pretty wildly, just a kink of the new models?also WHY do i have to prompt "nipples" for pics with "nude" already in it
>>8248014This is a good thing. There are lots of images tagged "nude" that don't have visible nipples. You can use "completely nude", and have it be more likely, or "nude, nipples" and guarantee it.
>>8248014>the styles tend to sometimes vary pretty wildlyAre you mixing artists at full strength? I'm getting fairly consistent styles as long as there is a clear weight ranking. Might wanna try the special a1111 tag mixing syntax too
>>8248017right now i just have 3 jumbled together at 0.75 strength each
ako hate
I've used local models without artists tags the entire time how do I get to know which ones are good? If I ever wanted an artist style I just used a lora from civitai
>>8248026>how do I get to know which ones are gooddump all style tags into a wildcardprompt a very specific 1girl prompt with that wildcard and pick them out of which gens you like
>>8248024seems kind of /aco/ with that nose
>>8248029you people need to be put on a boat
it has never been easier to slop around in the mud
>>8248014nice, box?
>>8248037https://files.catbox.moe/qqfamn.pngi dunno where her cuppa came from
>>8248039thanks, it's a nice touch
>>8248039Never a bad time for a cuppa
>>8248020https://files.catbox.moe/csoa2g.png
Does this entire general just ignore the immense amount of artifacting on Illustrious because the colors and styles are better than Pony?
damn negative prompting sepia and monochrome sure is hard.
>>8248074Judging by the survey, half of the thread moved to smooth or noob which don't have such issues
>>8248074Yes, next question
>>8248078But the other half is still on base. Why?
>>8248069kino angle, pose and gen overall box?
>>8248078ntasurvey? also qrd
>highlighter faggot is making thread before the image limit nowlol. lmao even
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>>8248083Thanks anon. I'm >>8247854 , so I can't give you box. Here's prompt, though (there was no secret at the upscaling stage, just gen and upscale)."sage joh, Masterpiece \(quality\), best quality, noelle silva, 1girl, anus, ass, ass smack, blush, closed mouth, earrings, eyelashes, gold bracelet, legs together, legs up, long hair, looking at viewer, nervous sweating, purple eyes, purple skirt, pussy, solo, sweat, twintails, open mouth, tongue out, rolling eyes, sex toy, dildo, object insertion, anal insertion, trembling, white hair, white socks"
>>8248114thanks
