Fiteworks EditionPrevious Thread: >>8245284>LOCAL WEBUI SETUPhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki>LOCAL FORGEUIForge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forgeMaintained fork (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge>LOCAL COMFYUIhttps://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUIhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/https://openart.ai/workflows/templates>LOCAL MODELShttps://civitai.com/models/404802https://civitai.com/models/288584https://civitai.com/models/257749>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESFeatures: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/FeaturesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070/controlnetxl-cnxl | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/installUpscaler models: https://openmodeldb.infoBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfList of useful A1111 extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8248075>>8248079kill yourself
>>8248093as someone on in the highlights, agreed
>>8248075>>8248079>made it inhope you live a prosperous life anon, based!
>>8248075>>8248079>made it inhope you die of testicular cancer
>Thread Highlights 09/10/2024>TH_24_10-08I don't understand the formatting. Pick a consistent date format as well as a consistent day for fuck's sake.
>>8248075>>8248079>you will never be the /hdg/ over the years collage guysucks don't it
>>8248072>didn't replace the local modelsJesus dude, we just went over this in the last thread. Get it together.
>>8248102anon do you think he gives a shit about anything other than racing to make the thread for (you)'s on highlights?
>>8248102what are the new things in town? (occasional tourist)
Any one got any cool lora styles for autist mix?
Can we make another thread with the correct op template?
>>8248102Link to update the OP with?
>>8248107no wait until this fills up
Now be a good cuckie and post in my thread ;)
>>8248107post said template in the previous thread to see it
>>8248112i'll never be able to tell if this is the highlights anon or a falseflag but it wouldn't surprise me if he was actually this obsessed
16ch vae doko?
>>8248105https://civitai.com/models/795765/illustrious-xlhttps://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl
>>8248116The trolls has copied post to his troll threads, has bumped the entire board, made threads as to throw/hdg/ off-the-board faster, make "Highlights" spoofs with the same filename format and so on. Falseflaging is the everyday thing now.
>>8248123thread highlights are the most reddit shit i've ever seen here (aside from avatar/name fags and people advertising) so it doesn't surprise me people don't like him
>>8248118who
>>8248124you're replying to the highlight retard anon
>>8248129>he refers to himself in third personwow he really is a faggot
>>8248075>>8248079>didn't make it inI'll do better next time!
>>8248133This is a chad mindset, good on you anon
anyone else use the colab trainer? I happen to have a shitload of tokens to burni dont want to waste them though so i wanna know if any anons can confirm this is how to train illust here (yes i uploaded it to my drive)
>>8248136AOM sloppa... home
>>8248142yeah that's fine
>>8248075>Made it in 3 timesI cummed, thanks anon.
Kohaku status?
>>8248142You can also try this colab, it's what I used.https://files.catbox.moe/dgk73f.ipynb
>>8248160thanks, i might have to because the normal lora trainer i use isnt workingeven tried going back to pony to test and it was offline too
>>8248160>>8248142what about frontend colabs? Fooocus works fine but the moment I put anything A1111 related forge or not it disconnects me
>>8248169Google pretty much killed that a while back. I think everyone who didn't have a good GPU moved to pixai, NAI, etc.
>>8248157I want to see her big breasts
>>8248160am i fuckin stupid
>>8248173Did you go through every step in order? It looks like you missed step 4
>>8248176could throw a quarter in that navel and make a wish, holy shit
>>8248173Yes, I'm literally using that notebook right now and it works
>>8248177oh my god i wasn't doing each process in orderim too spoiled by the one i was using which did every setup bit with the one click
>>8248170I sure haven't haha they are a bit limiting in what I want to do so Fooocus is my only option but I'm debating whether to put Ubuntu on a spare hard drive with my RX 6600 XT card
>>8248181You could've just clicked the run all button, but yeah, this isn't really a one-click colab but that means you have way more freedom in options.
Where are the models that were supposed to replace Pony? It's been a while, what's the news? Is it still happening?
>Where are the models that were supposed to replace Pony? It's been a while, what's the news? Is it still happening?this is how smooth that poster's pussy is
>>8248157catbox?
>>8248196i love shitposters now
>>8248194Illustrious XL
Shame that euge closed the server, seeing a rematch between jordach an neggles would be kino
Checking in after hearing about Noob. What do people feel about it? Is it improved from base Illustrious?
>>8248213Color are shit and I don't really feel that it's really improved that much in any category, just different. I think SmoothFT-SPO is better right now but that might change as more epochs are trained.
>>8248213It does some things better than Illustrious, and some things worse. It's a sidegrade
>>8248213it's a test and it absolutely sucks compared to smoothft because they used the webp compressed datasets for danbooru and e621
>>8248212neggles already gave up on that project after it was revealed that they don't just have 512 h100s ready to hand out. euge still has a long way to go before the project produces anything of value, his settings/dataset are completely fucked and they seem unable to figure vpred out. instead they're coping over shitty NLP
>>8248213colors are definitely starting to pop
>>8248222>unable to figure vpred outNai got help from https://github.com/crowsonkb and that other stability guy, bet they'd give some pointers if asked
>>8248213It's goodhttps://civitai.com/posts/7653078https://civitai.com/posts/7641727
>unable to figure vpred outHow the fuck these "people" even get the compute then...
>>8248226Are these yours? Kino
>>8248176
>>8248233all I see are spirals
>>8248236what does this even mean
The hell is Goofy Ai?Does it work on Pony?
>>8248238go read/watch uzumaki.tl;dr: it's junji ito horror.
>>8248241oh that one
>>8248233
Updated Computer can't get my old install to work. Something Something switching from intel to amd cpu.Do i Install Forge or Reforge when going at it clean?
>>8248247try something new, invoke maybe
>>8248154box?
shitnew install of reforge, how do i add the upscaler to img2img again? I know it's in settings but i forgor where
>>8248246Peak
>>8248250there's a search field in settings, just search "upscale" and it's going to be a drop down near the bottom.
>>8248259>>8248260based cuckchad
>>8248244>>8248259>>8248260sexo, moar please
>>8248249https://files.catbox.moe/2kv5qt.png
Trying Illustrious in Comfy right now. What VAE are you supposed to use? When I tried just loading the model itself in the VAE slot, it just gave me an error.
>>8248222>they seem unable to figure vpred outJust steal terminus xl, add 16ch vae and train this shit out.
>>8248265older one
>>8248262got it, thank youthough it wasnt there when searching "upscale", went back to my forge install to see if i could find it there and it was, so just searched the words in that one in reforge to find itodd
>>8248271b-box?
>>8248273https://files.catbox.moe/km1z80.png
>>8248267the normal SDXL VAE
>>8248267The one from checkpoint.
>>8248134Nice, now put a dick in her
>>8248274Thanks
>>8248196Could you open it just a little? A small peek pretty please
>>8248274>1guy, dark skin, black guy, bbc,can't tell if this is shitpost or not
>>8248282this was a really old gen with schizo prompts so yea basically
>>8248259>>8248260a box, sir?
>>8248271How did you get that labia stretch? I have been trying for ages
>>8248237Based, implied prostitution + smoking it's hot
>>8247774>But damn, the final lora is like 800mb...You can try lowering linear or conv quantile until it still looks correct. In fact, if you slightly burned the model, the extract may become even better.I assume you also used 24gb gpu, right?
spo or dpo fellas
>>8248259>>8248260>>8248271based
>>8248289IIRC inpainting gatcha, it took me a bit to get something i wanted
>>8248296basedbox?
>>8248296finally some good stuff
>>8248277HUH. Thanks. I somehow didn't see that as I was looking at the VAE node kek.Now I get pure static noise as my outputs though. What causes this again? It's weird since I literally just loaded someone else's Illustrious workflow.
>>8248292Nope, used batch=1,grad=1 with adafactor on my 4080
>>8248305Do you use clip skip?
>>8248308>with adafactorWell, you probably can fit a bunch more in there. You can increase batch size or try to disable full_bf16.
>>8248310sexy
>prompt a fat man>generates a pig manlmao>>8248299here, https://files.catbox.moe/hyemrm.pngi did some inpainting but not enough
miqomix bros we're so fucking backillustrious was trash after all
any artists to increase saturation on my mix?
>>8248317Tried to disable full_bf16 and it seems it wants at least ~18gb with batch=1. With current settings I can fit batch=2.
>>8248331In positives: (saturated, colorful), (lam \(ramdayo\), offbeat, menma \(enaic31\):1.3)In negatives: (greyscale, monocrome:1.5)
How do I fix my shit?https://files.catbox.moe/5msc8e.png
>>8248338thx fella
>>8248306Artists mix? I like the eyes
https://files.catbox.moe/v4rpi0.pngalso bonus non-filtered version of image relatedhttps://files.catbox.moe/hoi54n.png>>8248290when given a drab palate, one must delve into depressive behavior.
few XYs testing an idea from previous thread: dpm++ 3m sde gpu cfg++ sometimes fries very fine details or looks too dirty/noisy on my proompts. making the last step euler A seems to help. also include full euler A for comparison.effect is minor for the most part, and isn't always a net improvement, but ive seen a few seeds in my other gens where it was enough of an improvement that ill make it my defaultworkflow png: https://litter.catbox.moe/1ir1g4.pngfull res webps:https://litter.catbox.moe/fjb8at.webphttps://litter.catbox.moe/aziikd.webphttps://litter.catbox.moe/aziikd.webphttps://litter.catbox.moe/40mbzl.webphttps://litter.catbox.moe/yqlr7n.webphttps://litter.catbox.moe/8jny60.webp
>>8248335You can also try optimi.Lion with kahan_sum=True and full_bf16, this maybe should also fit and give you better precision. And if you can fit batch=2, you also probably can enable accumulation at batch=1 instead.
scuffed anatomy hour
>>8248058bumping this since you SEAnigs can't choose a thread
>>8248353pony mogs nai and illustrious put together with the right lora slop shitmix
>>8248353gooknai is already old and busted, long live chinkgooknai
>>8248309Oh, for some reason the clip skip was set to -1. Not sure how that happened since I remember it being -2 on import. But now I'm getting these weird artifacts.This is the workflow I'm loading up btw >>8247336I just bypassed the lora and switched the VAE noodle to the checkpoint node.
>>8248353pony has better anatomy
>>8248339What do you mean? It looks nice.
>>8248351I tied settings from rentry and it's even more hungry, using like 5-6gb of swap straight from the start.
>>8248238zoomer saw uzumaki (he cant consume anything he has to read) and force his reference on unrelated picture
>>8248358Just remove clip skip
>>8248363That's really weird, can you post your whole optimi.Lion config?
>>8248366That is also what it looks like without the clip skip node.
>>8248369What sampler?
>>8248358>>8248369nice AYYY SAG smegmadyn
>>8248368It's a bit of a messhttps://files.catbox.moe/gyvgm0.toml
>>8248370dpmpp_3m_sde
>>8248374what scheduleri rec dpmpp_3m_sde_gpu (and cfg++ if you like) and AYS
>>8248378Normal scheduler it seems. I don't know what those other things are.Honestly not sure those are the issue. The issue is that my setup seems to just not successfully reproduce someone else's image. Maybe I'll try to reinstall it.
>>8248372Well, seems like kahan_sum=True doesn't quite fit in there after all.>fused_optimizer_groups = 10This actually makes the training use the less vram the bigger the number of groups is set, although the effect diminishes quickly. Not sure why you turned this down.
>>8248382I used it with 16 and it performed pretty much the same
>>8248379the DPM++ samplers are very sensitive to scheduler and whatnotpost a catbox itll embed the workflow
>>8248385Well, because since 10 the vram savings you get are counted in mb.Did you try with kahan_sum=False?
>>8248379also there's a full workflow here >>8248348 that works pretty good if i say so myself
>>8248386https://files.catbox.moe/y6sgm6.png
best noob sampler for inpainting? euler ancestral fucks up colors too much when doing masked-only inpaints
>>8248388Yeah, it fits with batch=1 and kahan_sum=False, like barely.Can you also suggest noise params like min_snr_gamma and noise_offset? Current ones copy pasted from a dora config.
>>8248392>best noob sampler for inpainting? euler ancestral fucks up colors too much when doing masked-only inpaintsHuh no? check your CFG
>>8248395it's 2 babey
>>82483922m dpm sde AYS/SMG uniform.
>>8248396post all your inpaint settings
>>8248392ancestral samplers add noise every step so they are bad for inpainting. use regular euler and if that doesn't work try DDIM which magically works sometimes for some reason
>>8248391yeah, change the scheduler from normal to to karras or exponential or ays. pic related, karras. that'll fix your immediate issue.also it's not advised to gen at resolutions over 1MP (for square that's 1024x1024) without using things like kohya deep shrink (should already be in base comfy). you're more likely to get errors in composition and it's slow as fuck.ill post a workflow you might like better trying to only use core nodes
>>8248343j.k., yaya hiyayaka, 33 gaff, zeon (zzeeonn), vanripper
>>8248372You are anon who was trying to convert pony and arti models to vpred ztsnr?
>>8248306>>8248404so looks like Illustrious is good?
>>8248403Wait are you saying that you were able to reproduce the artifacts? Then how did that one anon use that workflow just fine?
>>8248405No, not with my 16gb of vram
>>8248394I see. Updated the rentry to include that.>Can you also suggest noise params like min_snr_gammaI can only suggest not to use min_snr_gamma and use debiased_estimation_loss = true instead.>and noise_offset?Your settings are fine, although I personally prefer multires_noise_iterations = 8. Noise offset settings generally carry over without any problems.>>8248405It's me.
>>8248406Literally best local model for everything except penises, which is still Fluffyrock. I actually thought Illust couldn't do veiny breasts out of the box but it turns out I'm retarded and ancestral samplers will just cause them to not render since they're too aggressive for such a fine detail.
>>8247934catbox?
think i finally nailed perfect pixel art
>>8248408yes, on normal scheduler it produced artifacts. pic related just running your workflow as-iswith karras scheduler it did not
>>8248412Which sampler did you use? I was trying to get them too but other sampler just give a lot of noise.
>>8248408nta but you loaded a non-comfy workflow into comfy, it seems that it didn't properly set the scheduler to sgm_uniform or you changed it to normal yourself, producing the artifacts
>>8248416>no artful use of limited palette, dithering, or low resolutionyes you've perfectly emulated awful nu-pixel art by plebs that never had a super nintendo
>>8248416Looking good pixel-anon, keep up the good gens
>>8248417Still, weird that it worked for...>>8248419Ohh, that would make more sense. I assumed that only comfy workflows would even import so I just tried a bunch of images until I found one that seemed to import lol.
>>8248411Thanks. Is there any point in using non-l2 losses like huber?
>>8248418That image has steath metadata but I got them to show up on both Euler/Euler SMEA Dy. eu03/Ryusei Hashida artist mix, some others who draw them helped/worked too. A really small LoRA could probably make it 100% consistent.
>>8248389>>8248348Cool. I will see about hunting down each node and installing them.
>>8248427Oh shit I am a dumbass, shoulda checked. thanks
Score_9, source_anime
>>8248425comfy will try to load other metadata formats into a generic workflow fitting the given inputs as best it can
>>8248429comfyui manager makes it much easier
>>8248426Dunno, didn't test it properly.
>>8248411Why do you think it might not have worked out completely? I mean, it's really looks overfitted, while still struggling with pure white/black bg sometimes and when I'm trying to prompt just 1girl it outputs just white background, descriptive prompt fixes it, but anywayAlso what other params you were using there?
euler A king, fellas
>>8248453Euler a can't converge. I accept your concession in advance.
>going through artists i like>all are underbaked>try fellatrix for a laugh>not underbakedcome on now
>>8248271I'm just shitposting but I can't help it when I see images like that just imagining the out of frame experience.
>>8248461incace status?
>>8248464the chad sumo squat
>>8248464could you do the same for >>8248432
>>8248464https://youtu.be/SeyIZ7yfPX8?si=iZ0JEujVXXiz9x9H
>>8248464>he doesn't do a run up to dunk on dat pussyshiggydiggydoosmhngmi
>>8248468hardly even recognizable if you ask me
>>8248472It's just pov paizuri dude lying there or in lap paizuri depending, small dick though>>8248471I'm not an artist but like he's leaning over too to put his hand on her head so this guy's thighs and glutes are insane.
can illustrous do uneven eyes, very important
>>8248437Understood.>>8248438Oh that's very welcome. Thanks anons.
>>8248477yea ill probably revisit this one at some point to make it look like hes the leap slamming onto her
im discovering that it may not always be optimal to stick to SDXL default resolution scale, even at the base level. ive seen some raw dog high res gens that just looked better than hiresfixed and/or deep shrunk gens.i use kohya deep shrink. i typically choose a standard SDXL res, scale it, and use a shrink factor equal to or greater than the scale factor. ive just not got some nicer gens setting it a bit less than that, like 1.33 on a 1.5x scale gen.there's always more schizo holes to dive into lol
>>8248477>It's just pov paizuri dude lying there or in lap paizuri depending, small dick thoughfor some reason I don't think the the dick could possibly be in that positionshe looks like she's standingand he'd need to spread his legs with unnaturally to be able to insert the dick this wayit just looks completely fucked to me
>>8248478How many eyes do you want sir
>>8248480hes not*
>>8248457Why should I want convergence
>>8248478>uneven eyesheterochromia? or something like different shape?
>>8248481>people have lost knowledge againupscaling is the absolute last step. if you're using hiresfix or kohya you're doing it wrong. There is absolutely zero point in making a big image that is not good. Make it good, then make it big.
>>8248490lol
>>8248445>Why do you think it might not have worked out completely?Tiny dataset, but the uploaded checkpoints aren't the "best" I've got, they were just enough to prove the point, and other attempts didn't go much better anyway.>and when I'm trying to prompt just 1girl it outputs just white background, descriptive prompt fixes it, but anywayInteresting, I didn't know that. Seems like an issue with CFG and caption dropout, probably due to too many repeats on the color dataset.>Also what other params you were using there?Total batch size (with acc) = 24, also some tag dropout and the first 6 tokens were kept since I tried to use NAI's tag order, kinda https://files.catbox.moe/4unrs2.toml
>>8248483I thought about it more looking it's simple, she's giving carrying standing paizuri to a short king and hooking his legs through her elbows. Also I tried that angle of straight arms down and bending up to cup my chest, I think she's gumby or I have trex arm flexibility I couldn't bend my wrist into that orientation.
>>8248432>>8248472>>8248477she's holding his legs in her armpits and spinning around, holding him straight via centripetal force
>>8248498this is what i live for
>>8248423>low resolutionyeah not really a fan of extremely outdated graphics, like at all, although i'd like to add some dithering. sometimes it comes out naturally though
>>8248486To make us whole, Isaac.
>>8248500heartly kek'd, nice one
>>8248464lol
>>8248488https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/uneven_eyes
>>8248476>it is trying to make aco look animebased, hope that tuning will only erase it further
>>8248509Ohhh, I was looking for tag to do something like that a while ago, may give it a try later
>>8248498Someone controlnet this, we can outpaint it into a whole new image
>>8248498do this one
What's the difference between these mixes?https://civitai.com/user/ZU_KI/modelsI don't have the internet speed capable of testing it myself.
>>8248518>pony baseIt doesn't matter
>>8248478https://files.catbox.moe/cn5m4y.pngnoob can, at least. with how much it's tagged on *booru I'd expect illustrious proper should be able to, as well.
>>8248239box?
>>8248518the anime mix is 2.5dthe cute/kawaii mixes are anime.I don't see much difference between the cute/kawaii besides cute maybe having brighter colors?
>>8248516There was a 2nd shooter.
>>8248511nai was the same, I unironically added incase to some mixes despite hating the style itself, wasn't bad for coloring
not /h/ but oh well
>>8248498how about this >>8248500
>>8248526ai generated? how
>>8248523this is a fine example of why upscaling should be done last and not before you even see the image. broken arm, amputated arm, groin cancer.Does not need to be 6 million pixels. >>8248490
>>8248532That's why you use controlnet or deepshrink
>>8248535>controlneta fine way to upscale after the image is done. >deepshrinkThis one is another method of wasting time/computation. There is zero point of upscaling an image before you know it is good.
Ok, so I've installed all the nodes, plopped the workflow in from >>8248348, and pressed the queue button after setting the paths to the model and the rockwell lora. But the image is not being reproduced exactly. This is what I get. Mainly the hair colors are switched, colors are a bit different and pose and proportions are a bit different. Anyone have an idea why?
>>8248525yeah, i liked some kuro nai gens with incase, it gives distinctive skin texturesame goes for "2.5d" shit, all those 1.5 and pony civit jeetslops are disgusting but quasarcake, dino, realistic blurry mixes are nice
>>8248540catbox your gen
>>8248529https://files.catbox.moe/ye75zx.png
>>8248541>kuro nai gens with incasethose could have been mine...
>>8248544https://files.catbox.moe/3n5e80.png
Ponybros.. everyone is using Illustrious.. our 300gb of loras... its over..
>>8248548i dunno! if i had to guess, the "gpu" sampler is non-deterministic from machine to machine
https://files.catbox.moe/zdoj0g.pngIt's getting spooky..
>>8248539>here is zero point of upscaling an image before you know it is good.I know it'll be good, I wrote the prompt
>>8248557
>>8248528>>8248524fuck this is the hardest I've kek'd in a while, bless you anonsomeone needs to take anon's sketches and run them through i2i to create new, completed images
>>8248547most likely, but also sometimes i think that all nai kuro posters are just the same person
>>8248554I see. So if it's the version of the sampler that doesn't say "gpu", then it's deterministic? This is what I get when I just switch the sampler to "dpmpp_3m_sde_cfg_pp" and touch nothing else.
>>8248562>>8248554oops
>>8248563i get that 99.9% exactly but not perfectlythere's probably a few things in the generation chain that are environment-dependent
>>8248496>Interesting, I didn't know that. Seems like an issue with CFG and caption dropout, probably due to too many repeats on the color dataset.I don't think it should be explicitly added to dataset, nai/fluffyrock probably haven't added it like that, it feels like adding bench questions into llm, when it should be generalized>tag dropoutIt could drop something important, really don't see why it should be a thing, while network dropout looks way more better >first 6 tokens were keptI don't know exactly how nai was training it, but it could hardly force you to use this order after, which may complicate artist mixing. Not a problem for nai tho, since it could just be grokked with computing>https://files.catbox.moe/4unrs2.toml>debiased_estimation_loss = trueDo you think it's a good idea, when attempting to change prediction type and correcting scheduling already? I know from nai paper that they was using something like min snr gamma, but I think any kind of offset/scheduling change might just don't work properly mutually, knowing kohya, lol
best negatives for Illustrious?
>>8248571Add them as you need them. worst quality, multiple views, 4koma, comic, sepia, muted color, flat color are all ones to consider. and of course stuff like signature, watermark, etc.. if you need it
>>8248571AYAKON
masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, (sars:1.2)
>PonyThe model of choice for /aco/ sloppers>IlluAphantasiacels wet dream>NoobAmazing if you're colorblind>SmoothftJust buy a NAI sub
>>8248579>/co/ mememeds, Pony can do anime fine
>>8248561certainly wasn't the case early this year, probably was like 3 others now that I remember, kaikoi used incase too
>>8248579and what if you're an idort?
>>8248580>Pony can do anime finestacking loras on top of using a shitmix
>>8248580It could, but nobody who is interested in genning anime is using it anymore at this point.
>>8248585I see a ton of pony loras in civ
man i forgot about debiased estimation loss and min snr gamma, i need to try those again on illustrious and see if they work better on a model that isn't completely fucked
>>8248586how is this related?
Who will be the last pony slopper?
>>8248587Section 3.2
>>8248586speaking of Civ, Illustrious tag when?
>>8248586anyone actually doing "anime" in these threads aren't using pony anymore.>>8248587according to the korean writeup the model used debiased estimation loss so I'd assume that probably works best. I also tried using min snr gamma 7(before the writeup dropped) and it was "okay."
>>8248595One of the great things about Illustrious is that Angel gives no permission for it to be used with Civit's on site shit. Last thing it needs is a category, let the jeets stay with pony.
>>8248597where do I find loras then
>>8248597You search "Illustrious" on civit and sort by newest.
>>8248597>One of the great things about Illustrious is that Angel gives no permission for it to be used with Civit's on site shiti've got bad news
>>8248600sars... lets go
Uh-oh, kurumuz is sweating! https://files.catbox.moe/3i3tjf.png
>>8248600Damn LOL I'm wrong thanWhen the fuck did that happen, what a tragedy
>>8248520interesting thanks
>>8248602LMAO
>>8248604within a couple seconds of you posting that
>>8248602This made me go check the NAI discord, and there's someone in there complaining NAI cant replicate a local model they used lmfao
>>8248599Are there even any worthwhile illu loras on civit?
>>8248602I am sure Angel's company is just waiting for the news that NAIV4 has no artist tags
>>8248610Style lorashttps://civitai.com/models/825396
>>8248602As he should considering the text model flop and local catching up.
>>8248610Mostly just ones from anons here who have accounts. Otherwise it's shit like Konan training 50 LoRAs of characters the model already knows well.
Should I delete all my Pony loras then? nyo...
>>8248617do it, cast them into the fire
>>8248615Careful sir, anons will cope and pretend the average ai slopper cares about MUH V-PRED when all they really care about are new characters and degenerate concepts
>>8248609He gave up...
MixCHADs we are in
>>8248617Already did that but left just 3 of them and just 1 pony based model (reweik)
>>8248623kek
>>8248619I feel like some anons thought that pony's severe color issues were due to lack of vpred which wasn't the case. Vpred's nice, true black/dark backgrounds are cool, but I really don't think it's enough to justify the sub fee if you have a good gpu now.
>>8248617I was already in dire need of actually sorting and organizing shit and pruning literal fucktons of lora's anyway.but since korean model came out I did the reasonable thing and just moved 500gb of lora's onto an external drive and stuck a sticky note of a middle finger onto it for future me to deal with.it'll probably sort itself out since if I ever actually use pony again and need any specific lora's I'll actually take the effort of finding out which very specific ones I'd used in the past and pull them over. And eventually just nuke everything later.
>Merge smoothft with bluvolls sloptune and noob>Call it Schizomix>Break all download recordsProblem?
>>8248623all anime shit and not a single 2.5d slop trained on insta gook roasties sirs really fell of
>>8248627If NAIV4 has a 16ch vae i'll sub again, but otherwise no point.
>>8248632Inpainting model's really nice though... Shame that there was absolutely no interest in making it from local.
>>82486241.2 or 1.3be very carefull of what you say
>>8248634I don't give a fuck about perfect npainting personally, im rapid firing gens to coom. It's all slop at the end of the day.
>>82486351.3 is fine
>>8248635nta but the only one worth using is 1.1
>>82486351.2 of course even tho it didn't feel too different from 1.1
>>8248362I actually wanted some kind of criticism because I looking for ways to improve things, even things I can't see through my bias
>>8248642If it makes you coom, it's good enough.
>>8248339https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o75qiJzHmtA
>>8248642>fixFP16ErrorsSDXLLowerMemoryUse_v10is this the default vae for Illu or something?
>>8248636It's not about "perfect" slop inpainting. It's an easy way to reroll a part of the gen. Like one part but don't like the rest? Easy inpaint and reroll. Wanna add pantyshot or decensor some pic? Mask and prompt, no need to sketch shit and try to blend the styles. I don't know how hard would it be to even tune this shit, I don't think they ever wrote how their inpainting model works. Probably finetuned this https://huggingface.co/diffusers/stable-diffusion-xl-1.0-inpainting-0.1 shit though.
>>8248642The issue is that most of us are sloppers whose standards peak are "good enough". /ic/ autists won't touch AI shit so it's very difficult to get a proper redlining of a piece if you're taking a hybrid approach and doing heavy inpainting.
>>8248647Just generate another image bro bwhahahahha RETARD
When you guys talk about forge, do you mean reforged or the original?
>>8248651reforged
>>8248642I mean straight critique is >Hand holding phone looks weird, shadow finger below the pinkie and how the fuck do you hold a phone like that >lright hand has 3 fingers and thumb, fucked up looking foot on the bottom left >Top right is fingers, Random string coming from strap to vagina >Bottom pair of images 5 fingers none of those is a thumb - You implied abuttplug in top and bottom right is like an actual tail? >Need a clear separation because bottom right looks like you've got one of those fuck dolls that's just a lower half on the left there the way it's angled
>>8248642really calm down with the amount of tags
>>8248650true
>>8248602>NOOO SHUT IT DOWNnaipaypigs are scared
>>8248658who even cares, nai was completely btfo by pony 9 months ago, everyone knows that
v-pred? what's that? That's right pal, no one cares or notices. You're in a world of jeets.
>>8248423The much bigger issue is how much of a mess those lines are. Not clean at all.
>>8248642https://files.catbox.moe/2vyz7f.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/v8jz67.pngthere's technically other things but it comes down to "wow this style sucks," which I'm omitting for obvious reasons.
civit staff have started removing pony models from the on site generator & are replacing them with illustrious merges while ghosting the pony model hosts...it's over for pony on civit...
Shitposting aside, more competition is a good thing. Gonna be a fun few months.
>>8248642>>8248664oh I just realized it but a big reason, other than the color tone mismatch, that the hand on the ass for the second looks so fucking weird is because it's backwards.from that position the thumb should be the furthest place away from the anus(which is where the pinky is there).
>>8248665>503 Service Temporarily UnavailableISRAEL
>>8248666>competitionNow only if the competitors where something else than 4ch stabilislop tunes...
>>8248570>I don't think it should be explicitly added to datasetThe goal was to reproduce the benefits of using vpred+ztsnr on sdxl, and if you don't add them like that then they won't be there. At least one repeat for a good bake is a must.>>8248570>network dropoutThere's no network to drop if you train a finetune.>I don't know exactly how nai was training itThey were almost certainly doing things differently because mine implementation is as scuffed as it could ever be so you really didn't surprise me.>Do you think it's a good idea, when attempting to change prediction type and correcting scheduling already?Rescaling loss based on timesteps has absolutely nothing to do with changing prediction type because it doesn't affect prediction target.
>>8248651anyone still using reforge is silly imo.
>>8248667nta, hat's wrong with her slit in the kneeling position?
did cumrag and xir cult really bullied illyasviel out of maintaining forge?
>>8248677So true sir, CONSOOOOOM the inferior UI even though nothing has changed to justify swapping to it.
>>8248677We need le heckin memesamplers, sir, please understand
>>8248664Her hands are just more tan than her butt. Makes sense, unless she's wearing gloves.
>>8248679the vagina does not sit that far forward. With her position you would not see ANYTHING beyond pubic mound with maybe a hint of clitoral hood but more realistically not even that with all the extra fat being thrown around on that figure.don't think about the vagina as a position in relation to the penis. think of it in relation to the position of the zipper line of your taint to a bit past where your sack starts to flair out.
>>8248567Alright, I guess it's fine then. As long as it works, which it does seem to be now that I'm testing more things.Thanks anons. Here. Illustrious sexo.
>>8248677What do you think they should be using, comfy?
>>8248694forge if not in a professional setting, comfy if in a professional setting.
>>8248404Box?
>>8248695>ForgeI thought the issue with forge was it didn't get any more updates.
>>8248691Idk, looks like she's kinda hunched. Her hip looks almost horizontal and most of the rounding comes from her lower back.
anyone have decent illu training parameters? Tried making an unou lora but seems underbaked, this is at 1.4 weighthad 1500 steps total, thought i saw an anon say it needs less than pony
>>8248699The issue with forge is that it's not Comfy. Comfy is the best, pajeet approved.
>>8248677>no gen
>>8248699Yeah that was the problem and why reforge came to be. except now forge is updated and maintained again. lllyasviel is by far the smartest person doing 4 free work in the AI realm.
No matter how much I schizo prompt noob, it doesn't explode. Such a fun model.https://civitai.com/posts/7676850
>>8248428Box? Also, what LoRAs are you using? Did you make them? I can't find them on Civitai.
>>8248707ligma(balls)nese
Localbros... we're so back
Wtf why nobody told me AdamWschedulefree was so good?
>>8248709LOL
>>8248707>sepia in negativesyou know what, you're alright anon
It's unreal how dogshit pony actually is holy fuck
bronies, our response?
>>8248707"EPIC... hero or menace?"
>>8248701I'am once again shilling fishine anons config4000 steps before batch calculations and it just works
>>8248722forgot to link https://files.catbox.moe/30jm52.toml
>>8248707i still think the colors are too fucked in the chink test but it's really funny to me when I click one of the artsy schizo gens and it has the cilo/dino/healthyman loli artist combo
>>8248708https://files.catbox.moe/fva9vp.pngthat was taken into photoshop, given a lot of vibrancy and light color correction from filter layers, since colors on noobs seem? to actually be fairly stable enough to be able to take it without being extremely super obvious(or at least, with what I'm doing with those artists they are). also added film grain.lora is in the noob directory here(since it's retrained on noob):https://www.mediafire.com/folder/f1uuqrzy5s83e/arako_othe other one is for regular illustrious, which also works on noob but is even more washed out.
>>8248724There are a lot of artists that I feel have way more weight than others. I put quasarcake in my negatives today and it completely changed the entire style of the image
>>8248724Just keep adding random shit into the prompt and generate, that's where the fun is. Idk, colors seem fine to me but i'm not super autistic about it.
>>8248654That's an interesting critique, sometimes I do feel like I'm overdoing the tags and most of the time I don't know what to prune because most of them does affect the composition in the way I want>>8248664>>8248667>>8248653Thank you for the break down, the devil's on the details they say. Also I gather that Illustrious still has trouble with anatomy>>8248679I admit that I let that slip, was not genning on my PC and justify myself on inferior illustrious anatomy instead of fix it with inpaint Thank you everyone
>>8248546Sorry, I had to
>>8248700doesn't really matter(the anatomy is actually all sorts of fucked when you try and map it out and I can't be fucked to bother). You're still not going to see any real hint of slit at that angle and realistically you'll only see thighs clapped together. Even if you could end up seeing anything from that angle it'd just be literally lower(and there'd be a lot less of a slit to see).
meanwhile in chenkins discord...
>>8248738
>>8248739Holy fuck it's spiderman!
>>8248739What happens when his investors start knocking on his door for an actual delivered model?
>>8248738>>8248740Not a fan of giant tits but I like the style
>>8248739just two more monthsfuck yeah
Crazy to think we survived nearly a year of pony, the damage done to this general is slowly being repaired.
>>8248738>>8248740louisbox?
>>8248742they realize the grave mistake they made kek
(big belly: YES)
>>8248745What damage? Endless pedo seethe?
>>8248723thanks! i'm using a colab trainer right now so i dont have access to all these settings but i'll copy over what i can and see what happens
>>8248745Yeah I honestly thought it wouldn't recover, but the retarded baits are simply no longer working. The pony mindbreak was real.
>>8248749why do you suggest that they are the only ones who are not blind?
>>8248756Why are you not posting on /b/?
>>8248758Anon, time to let it go.
>>8248750This guy is carrying the thread today
>>8248762With his /aco/ gens?
>>8248756Normal people were content with pony or at least didn't hate it enough to shitpost, troll and falseflag here non-stop for the last 6 months.
imagine how bad the thread would be today if i didnt convince the sheep that nai was blurry overpriced garbage
>>8248764not moeshit enough for you?
how is the grifter mix looking on noob?
>>8248767this, the whole civitai used pony, don't know what the pedophiles were so mad about
>>8248769Yes the people in this general have made it very clear that anything that doesn't look like KyoAni moeshit is /aco/.
Folks, let me tell you something, and I mean this BIGLY. We're taking back the hdg general, okay? We're going to DEPORT anyone who's posting those images—I'm talking about PONY, I'm talking about ACO. You post this shit, you're GONE. We're cleaning it up, people, and it's going to be so beautiful. You're one of those ponyfags or degenerates from /aco/, you better pack your bags. IT’S OVER! The general is now a SAFE SPACE for ANIME.
>>8248771Who cares, it does a passable yd and all the other artists in that mix are inferior and just muddy his style.
>>8248154>>8248266what ssambatea lora?
>>8248768you just shat up thread for nothing, nobody actually thinks that lol
How does /hdg/ feel about pov? Enjoy the immershun? Think it's lazy? Enjoy not having an ugly bastard in the scene?
>>8248673>The goal was to reproduce the benefits of using vpred+ztsnr on sdxl, and if you don't add them like that then they won't be there. At least one repeat for a good bake is a mustAren't it will anyway be learned from pics with black/white backgrounds containing chars?>There's no network to drop if you train a finetune.Never tried to do a full finetune, not good tbdesu>Rescaling loss based on timesteps has absolutely nothing to do with changing prediction type because it doesn't affect prediction target.So it wont conflict with ztsnr which iirc affecting "almost noise" timesteps?Just asking all that because want to try do a full finetune with those features, at least to try, not expecting much about it
debiased estimation loss is somehow bad in an entirely new and unique way on illustriousactually i have no idea how it sucks this much this is incredibly bizarre
>>8248779POV is highlight bait so I stopped genning it
>>8248779
https://files.catbox.moe/ifpdft.png
If you ever spammed blacked or ironic /aco/ garbage, then you're a mind broken schizo and probably a pedo. Sorry, but I don't make the rules.
>>8248781whats wrong with it? i saw above a high batch size was recommended
>>8248784ToT
>>8248779>>8248783
is there some syntax i should know for Illu models? I liked mixing a bunch of artists on pony but on Illu when i add too many shit gets fucked up quickthe difference between an artist weighted at 0 and 1 is big but even the addition of a 0 weighted artist uses the token and changes the pic super dramatically
>>8248779but I prompt ugly bastard pov
>>8248779just put abs in the negatives
>>8248784koreabros...
gooknai did irreparable damage to this thread
>had to add furry to negative to this while upscaling to prevent the male from turning beastman>probably because I was prompting for tail wagginge621 was a fucking mistake.for reference here's one of the upscales I let finish before noticing and adding it to negativeshttps://files.catbox.moe/abto0c.png
comfy did irreparable damage to this thread
>>8248732what's that supposed to mean
>>8248795box?
>>8248795nooo, sexy furry anatomical goodness and superior tagging is the only way for local to beat NAI!
>>8248801this but unironically
I miss being able to make good looking penises, no homo.
>Illustrious/noob knows sam yang/samdoesartkek
>>8248786https://litter.catbox.moe/7txvds.pngit basically completely prevented the 4th iteration of this LORA from learning the style of the koikatsu dataset. i do not know how or why. there's also some very noticeable artifacting around the xenoblade 3 characters for some reason, but that might be because the loss masks have very jagged edges in which case that's actually kind of impressiveit not learning anything about the koikatsu seems potentially very bad but i'm going to have to see if it'll still learn character details
Mari Makinami will save Comfluxscade!
>>8248807pure soul
>>8248798I mean. there's literally already a catbox of a different seed but whatever.https://files.catbox.moe/h8d8i3.png
>>8248802this is furry cream of the crop https://e621.net/posts?tags=order%3Ascore+-animated+i don't know what went wrong that somebody thinks that those brown disfigured abomination will improve anything
>>8248804same, n-no homo of c-c-course!
>>8248072I'm using ComfyUI and I noticed that the metadata in the image I generate don't contain any data on what models I use. They include the names of LoRA nodes I use but nothing else useful. Is it possible to set it to input the LoRA and model hashes into the metadata?
>>8248780>Aren't it will anyway be learned from pics with black/white backgrounds containing chars?It will, but it will not learn "solid background">not good tbdesuI think you actually can just freeze some random layers for each optimization step, that would achieve similar effect, but that's not implemented in kohya>So it wont conflict with ztsnr which iirc affecting "almost noise" timesteps?This literally just rescales learning rate depending on the timestep, it doesn't do anything else. Why would it?>>8248781>>8248806The actual tag is koikatsu (medium)(it doesn't seem to work either way)The reason why this happens however is that you fuckers just switch to debiased loss and immediately go to baking, not even trying to think about what it's doing. I reiterate once again, CHANGE YOUR FUCKING LEARNING RATE.Oh and also, you should try full unet finetune.
>>8248817>The actual tag is koikatsu (medium)>(it doesn't seem to work either way)why do you think i'm training a lora ??????????????????????
everyone is using base Illustrious?
>>8248768Yeah, if that's actually you, you turned this place into a shithole for nothing. Most naifags would leave or switch either way.
>>8248812to be honest danbooru isn't that much better with this exact search query
>>8248816it's pony
>>8248820He's based. Saas is cancer that has to be opposed at every opportunity.
>>8248823That doesn't answer what I asked. How do I set it to input the proper metadata?
>>8248825Based sister, you're a freedom fighter literally like Che Guevara.
>>8248819I am, but I think most are using the SPO merge, dunno.
>>8248820nai shilling got incredibly ridiculous and annoyingi'm glad it's mostly over aside from a couple sunk cost fags
>>8248829What does "SPO" even mean? NTA.
>>8248822it isn't about quality in the top cut but about the fact that furry shit barely resemble humanoid shapeand all those super specialized tags are small and almost completely filled with some hyper bbw inflation shit, and even simple tags are plenty mistagged
>>8248831small penis obliteration
>>8248830It was only ridiculous during first month or two, after that all the model obsession bullshit was mostly due to this local vs nai unending bullshit. I know for a fact that plenty of people noped the fuck out of here during that time, and they weren't all naifags.
>>8248831I don't know.I suggest doing some XYZs to decide which looks better to you.https://civitai.com/models/811067/illustrious-xl-smoothft
>>8248831https://huggingface.co/SPO-Diffusion-Models/SPO-SDXL_4k-p_10ep
>>8248832>filled with some hyper bbw inflation shitperfect for kids to learn anatomy
>>8248836>>8248837Hmm... A quick look sounds like SPO is just "gen twice at each step and get the best, bro". Same as Chain of Thought in LLMs. Whatever, as long as it works.
>>8248830>i'm glad it's mostly over yeah certainly thanks to you and not the gook releasing a usable local model
>>8248841>A quick lookwhere?
>>8248075Was expecting to make it in 2 times but only made it in once this time, I've fallen off...
>>8248845https://github.com/RockeyCoss/SPO
>>8248812an actual honest answer would be that I think it would improve the understanding of some concepts, e.g. uncensored genitalia and some fetishes. probably shoving all of e621 into the model isn't that great of an idea, it should rather be a smaller piece of it that is of high quality and highly specialized on things that danbooru lack
>>8248852>curated e6 datasetyeah, totally agreeand for danbooruand for gelbooruand for pixivand for rule34 datasets, because all these websites are utter garbagethanks captain obvious
>>8248858you're welcome
>>8248722>4000 steps before batch calculationsfishine anon's config is good but batch size greatly effects how many steps you need and a flat 4000 is just an arbitrary number
>>8248851thanks
>>8248805>a model trained on danbooru knows an artist with 300 images on danbooru...yes?
>>8248103nice. appreciate current season posters
how come weighting down a tagged style is so ineffectivelike yeah it changes the image but an artist at 0.1 still completely changes the image from not being tagged at all
>>8248852why NAI doesn't have problem with uncensored genitalia? especially penises are over the top detailed like in those blacked mixes, but local needs the knot for this
>>8248873NAI had more than danbooru as far as I know so probably from that.
>>8248873>NAI doesn't have problem with uncensored genitaliacompared to pony? it doesthose bbc lovers probably pick artist tags that are good with black dicks specifically>>8248876no?
>>8248873>especially penises are over the top detailed like in those blacked mixesdicks looks better using some artist tags than others, shocking
>illustrious can't do scatyawn
>>8248878Doesn't it have screencaps and stuff from different anime. Remember reading about that at some point
>>8248880shit tastego eat some (ces:1.5)
>>8248882>Remember reading about that at some pointnever read anything like this, but it's possible I guess? even if that was true though, it would only supplement the official style knowledge, not the dick knowledge lol.
>>8248873most likely their dataset is a bit more curated and secret than they're willing to let on
>>8248889>Our dataset consisted of approximately 6 million images gathered from crowd-sourced platforms.>It was enriched with highly detailed, tag-based labels.>The images are mostly illustrations in styles commonly found in Japanese animation, games and pop-cultureit's literally just danbooru with problematic data like comics and "absolutely everyone" pruned
>Train a lora on pics where the person photoshopped his penis to replace artist penis.>Gen results in photoshopped penis.sayang
>https://files.catbox.moe/pdmzk6.png
Did that anon ever get his fart lora?
>>8248817How long you was baking that?
>>8248898Got one extra pussy under left knee!
>>8248909Hmm, does it really looks like it? I don't mind inpainting that bit, something more?
>>8248911don't inpaint i'll fuck it
>>8248779only thing I bother genning
>>8248915the strongest pov cowgirl soldieri don't recall any other position in your gens kek
>>8248911Yeah. At best it looks weird.>something more?Idk left ear? If you have nothing better to do.Appreciate showing anons begging for e621 smegma that dicks are completely fine and it's a skill issue on their part though.
>>8248873nai is good at pussy but mid at doing penises unless it's some kind of close-up using a bbc or male focus artist or something crap like that, from my experience pony doesn't suffers from this issue at all
>>8248918>Idk left ear? If you have nothing better to doEh sure>Appreciate showing anons begging for e621 smegma that dicks are completely fine and it's a skill issue on their part though.Wasn't even my intention but you are welcome (?)
>>8248925it's also usually bad at non-standard positions, like if you do pov grinding with penis directed towards pov it always mangles it while nai furry and pony won't have issues with thatso yeah it's just jap dataset lacking dick knowledge
so if i train a koikatsu style lora using debiased estimation loss on the base model it does not learn the style. but if i merge a non debiased estimation loss lora into the base model, so it does know the koikatsu style, and then use that merge to train a character lora that uses koikatsu screenshots and debiased estimation loss then the character lora will perfectly learn the style. and if debiased estimation loss is disabled then the lora doesn't learn the stylevery weird behavior
>>8248739this dude is so delusional lmfao
>>8248930what
>>8248898nice artstyle>lora:illustrious_styles_v2-2what does this add?
Kek
>>8248934what is righti trained a style lora with koikatsu screenshots on base illustriousif i have debiased estimation loss enabled then it does not learn the style. if i have it disabled then it does learn the stylethen i merged the working style lora with the base model and then use that merge to train a character lora. if the character lora has debiased estimation loss enabled then it learns the koikatsu style and the character. if i have it disabled then it only learns the character and maybe a very small amount of the styledunno why. i'm doing a run of the character lora+debiased estimation loss with the base model right now. for some reason this also seems to only apply to koikatsu screenshots, debiased estimation loss learns the style from xenoblade 3 screenshots as intended for some reasoni have no idea why i'm seeing this behavior but if this just means that i can train koikatsu screenshot loras using base illustrious and debiased estimation loss without it learning any style information then that's nice i think
i'm fully expecting the base illustrious + koikatsu screenshots character lora + debiased estimation loss to perfectly learn the koikatsu style as well though since that would be the most confusing and also shittiest possible outcome
>>8248898>>8248909"Fixed" version, still looks weird but honest to god no idea how the ear should look from that angle, just a little of depth?>>8248935>what does this add?Stability on my gens >>8248940Very nice wolf sex
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>>8248950I agree sir
>>8248950spooky
>>8248949It's okay, anon, you did well.
HELLOOOOO WHERE IS THE SEPIA AND ACO
https://files.catbox.moe/i8mcrc.png
>>8248962>moscaflybased
first world problem time, I recently upgraded my RAM to 128GB and my GPU to a 4090. I am trying to run large batches, around 64, but when I attempt to train, it loads as if it’s about to start, but then nothing happens, and my RAM is being utilized, at around 50%. Dont I want to have most of my dataset loaded into ram to offload it from my GPU? I am on derrian/easy scripts if that makes a difference.
>>8248975i kinda wanna comb with my tongue and bite off those sexy purple donut hair she has
>>8248976local is saved
>>8249016Box onegai?
>>8248915catbox?
>>8249020https://files.catbox.moe/9j046x.png
>>8249023Thanks bro
>>8248940box?
>>8249026https://files.catbox.moe/nkrv2l.png
>>8249029thanks>>8249031boxo?
>>8248976cute oni
I wish those dumbasses on Civtai would stop uploading multiple versions of lora in one post. I don't know why they can't separate Illustrious, Pony or SDXL loras since they don't work with different models. Plus, it's messing up my filter setting.
>>8248997Check vram usage, and use a smaller batch.What are you even doing to require batch 64?
>>8248732lmao
>>8249045>Check vram usage, and use a smaller batch.Yes its high 80-100%, but thats pretty normal no?>What are you even doing to require batch 64?I wanted to try it, I thought that if you have more vram and ram you would be able to train quicker with higher batch sizes. So I was playing with it to train faster.
>>8249051With more Vram, yeah. With more ram, no.When your vram is filled up, it spills over to ram as a fallback, but it's significantly slower than vram.Try turning on gradient checkpointing to help with vram management.
>>8249052gradient checkpointing has always been on and accumulation is set to 4. Ive tried changing it to 2 and 1 but the results have all been similar.
>>8248997post your pixiv first
>>8249055?
>>8249053Just lower your batch size and try to get it to start, then work your way up form there I guess?I don't think you'd need checkpoint accumulation on either, but keep gradient on.
so what are the best illustrious finetunes right now?
>>8249067they're all garbage
>>8249067The one that merges with pony
>>8249067https://civitai.com/models/833294?modelVersionId=932238
>>8249071>>8249072these two are the same answer
How do you guys search for Illustrious-based LoRAs? There doesn't seem to be an easy way to filter for it, as far as I can tell.
>>8249076just filter for sdxl loras, 90% of the recent ones are for illustrious
OUR cute oni wife
>>8249076You type illustrious in the search bar
>>8249076Many old loras also work on illustrious xl!
>>8249078>>8249080Yeah I tried that but some don't show up because they don't have Illustrious in the name, or they have different versions under the same name and the "cover" version, which is the only version that gets to go into the search database, is Pony or something else rather than Illustrious.
>>8249066batch size 16 and no acc, and gradient on It works, but the estimate is an hour which is pretty normal. I was hoping for alot faster for a style lora with these specs. If anyone has a toml for quick style loras id like to check that out.
>>8249083It's bullshit that they put it in the same post as other sdxl version. Won't be able to search for Illustrious loras that way if it gets its own filter in future.
>everyone itt talking about Illustrious>tfw I'm still using Ponyhttps://files.catbox.moe/n95e9d.jpg
>>8249087no need to feel bad for not falling for flavor of the month fomo, anon
>>8249087>no gen
>>8249088I honestly think itll surpass Pony eventually but its like watching anons sample the pie before its ready to get it out of the oven>>8249089All I gen is blacked content sorry anon
>>8249087It's not like you can't use it for /d/, /aco/, 3d, realistic and semi-realistic.
>>8249090>All I gen is blacked content sorry anonSo what?, if it looks good it looks good
>>8249072thanks
T b h I dropped image gen during the Based64 after things felt like they were slowing down. I have not used Pony or anything SDXL. I have come back here to get a feel for image gen again after hearing about NoobAI and Illustrious. I haven't said and will not say anything about Pony because I don't know anything about it.
>>8249095nice blog
>>8249095*the Based64 days
>>8249096Thanks bro.
>>8249095Yeah? post your old 1.5 gens
>>8249099
>>8249095>nogen
>>8249100Oh, cute girl bwo
>>8249103Illu version
What sampler and scheduler and resolution do you guys use for IllustriousXL? Looks like shit with my old pony settings.
>>8249108euler a, normal, 832x1216 base
>832x1216 Is that a preference or a requirement?
>>8249099The 1girl era...>>8249100>>8249107Nice.
>>8249108I just use the workflow from >>8248348 and don't think.
>>8248917I'm not gonna deny that I've been lazy with gens since illustrious dropped. Half because all my old workflows (and face detailer) are cursed to use with illus for whatever reason, half due to other hobbies taking over. Definitely do like standing split, spooning, and non-pov doggy (questionable consent), so maybe I'll test out those positions too.>>8249021here ya gohttps://files.catbox.moe/il4ts2.png
>>8249107huge downgrade
>>8249100sovl>>8249107sovlless
>>8249110nta but that's nai's default resolution, so it's half a joke, half legit advice
Can I get a quick rundown on "multidiffusion_method: Mixture of Diffusers"?I've seen a few catboxes with that, and was wondering how to make it work. When I tried, I got an abomination.
>>8249126it's just a reasonable resolution for most sdxl base gens
>>8248907It depends on the size of the dataset really, on 5k dataset it starts looking not like pure noise within the first epoch and maybe by epoch 10 it starts looking fairly coherent.>>8248930>>8248943>>8248948You're stuck in a local minima, retard.
>>8248346Nothing you say can convince me this image isn't an i2i of that autistic kid from the babadook where the >why can't you just be normal?! meme comes from
>>8249129...Oh, its an img2img upscaling method. I'm super retarded aren't I?
>>8248379Switch it to simple, fixed happens on mine too not sure why because I even copied a catboxed WF directly and they had great results
I like my hands and eyes extra melted
Back after 2 months or so. Still no progress since AnyTest or ProMax came out? Nothing new that's good?Has AI stagnated?
When is the author of kohya going to get off his lazy ass and upgrade the repo to use cu124 or better? feels like all these training scripts has stopped at 118 and cuda 11.8
>>8249142a big anime model just dropped last week, it's pretty goodread thread if you want to know more
>>8249142motherfucker doesn't even know what power law scaling and logarithms imply, meta just announced their video gen model last week for gods sake. AI hasn't stagnated, it just isn't for (you) yet
>gen be left image>brown pantyhose, bridal gauntlets>replace it with "nude">model stops shitting itselfwhat
>>8249147>use underbaked raw v0.1 pre-alpha>"wtf why is it so unstable and melty?"
>>8249148>>8249147>>8249146>>8249145just use pony unless you are a pedo
>>8249148>everything else workssure
>>8249146>metaIf I can't use it for porn or even animated content as their samples show, it's completely irellevant.Also announcing a model means nothing, you need to show actual samples genned yourself.And I've looked at some video shit and haven't seen anything that I'm impressed by more than Sora.>>8249145At least tell me the name of the model, I'm not sifting through 600 posts with 0 information.
>>8248739Did he ask Claude to implement the paper?
>>8249149cunny love is cunny lifehttps://files.catbox.moe/wc7wsz.png
>>8249142>has ai stagnated?????t.
>>8249156can i request you one with eldridge from azur lane?
>>8249157pumping
Its funny how all the flux models uploaded to civitai are grifting in prelease. "give me buzz goy or I'll never release for you" the absolute state of AI these days. Civitai is slowly becoming the nexus mods of AI.
>>8249161it already is, its the destiny of all popular website trying to emulate reddit
>>8249144You can just install cu124 and it will just work though.
it's 1:47 am I'm tired my eyes hurt my legs hurt I want to sleep but I can't stop thinking about getting out of bed and tagging more lora datasets I'm not even enjoying this anymore I just feel compelled send help please
>>8248739jordach learning in real time why using ezbaker scripts is a recipe for shitbaking. local finally realizing what i said for months: it's the oven that's wrongany bake using kohya should be dismissed before it even starts. if you cant code your own trainer, stick to loras.
I'm about to bite the bullet and just sub to NAI, it does loli so much better.
>>8249171Oh you could stop being a faggot
>>8247814gonna need those loras chief
>>8248411Tried debiased_estimation_loss and it doesn't seem to converge at all.Tried both lion and adafactor, tried to crank up and down the LR (from 1e-4 to 1e-7) - the resulting checkpoint look pretty much like the base model, with very minor changes.
>>8249167But why are you blaming UI frontend for kohya that can only train lora for kohya's mistakes lol
>>8249167do you think he like running around in circle after his own tail because he is a furry
>>8249171does it? lolis i see from illu are looking very kosher. unless you're baiting anon
>>8248830The sour grapes once V4 drops will be very funny to watch. Shame about the thread though.
>>8249179He is, around this time the baiting starts every day. Surprised people still bite.
>>8248882Plenty of screencaps on danbooru.
>>8249181usually it's later I think
>>8249167Surely euge and the other Chinese geniuses wouldn't use kohya for their NAI killer, right?
>>8249179I'm not baiting, refinement with very minimal thinkering is very hard to tophttps://files.catbox.moe/6bbk1k.jpg
>>8249189earlier this thread anon posted pretty legit illu cunny. from what im seeing it is very loli/hebe aligned. if pony was still the only option i'd understand
>>8249189>jpg in 2024
>>8248795>gens furry girl>complains about furry maleAdmit it, you're a furfag
>>8249147box? did you turn on "no norm" in emphasis in the settings? it looks like the problem with that
>>8249195what artists are you using?
Illustrious top 10k danbooru artist testhttps://mega.nz/folder/Vd8yTCTL#FEpX0epT6cAcMZQI-QuBAA
>>8249200tianliang duohe fangdongye,asou \(asabu202\), yd \(orange maru\), ningen mame
>>8249205thanks
>"vgh all this pony /aco/slop looks the same and i am glad we are past that">meanwhile all gooknai gens look identical (just like the anime they are mimicking)
>>8249206Chiori is too sexy
honestly noobai is too washed out to usehttps://files.catbox.moe/7mlma3.png
>>8249221https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-diffusion-cghttps://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-vectorscope-cc
>>8249223yeah but post processing is lameI might as well open photoshop and fix the gen at that point
>>8249224It's not post processing, these change the latent during generation.
>>8249226how much do they affect the gen?
>>8249227Check the examples on github. Generally only the colors and small details, doesn't affect the overall composition.
>>8249231gotcha
Euge right now in discord trying and failing to train vpred and use cosxl, so cute
>>8249236Can't he just grab SimpleTuner and follow terminus-xl workflow?
>>8249135I mean, I can show the receipts, anon.lowres t2i https://files.catbox.moe/znwan1.pngupscale https://files.catbox.moe/17k8gl.png
>>8248103cute
i'm still trying with lora extraction and i'm reaching the stage where i start to fuck with LRs (cope). it's just not as accurate as a lora even though it has almost no style influence at all which is great. i'm starting to think this technique isn't suited to highly precise details at all, but i'd recommend it for basically anything else.also turning off debiased estimation loss greatly improved the accuracy of the details (big shocker there)
>>8249243Have you tried LR schedules?
A-are we the bad guys?
>>8249247Yeah, I broke their gpus and deleted the caption sets.
>>8249247wah wah every community sucks because I am upset by the random handful of schizos
>>8249244its basically the same as always, CAWR with 3 restarts and then like 99% of the time one of the two the epochs right after restart 2 or restart 3 are the best
Whats your workflow anons? Do you do a whole bunch of lowres images and pick out ones the compositions you like to upscale? Stop and start one by one? Perhaps you are you lazy and leave it all in the hands of fate and do a dozen upscaled before coming back to check?
>>8249255I base genning at 1248*1824 with deepshrink. It's so fast that I completely abandoned low res gens
although, for the specific thing i'm doing i think it's a tag issue so i'm going back to the drawing board a little herehttps://files.catbox.moe/vccl4m.jpg
>>8249247Derrian sounds like bigger faggot than EPIC wtf
>>8249167all those troons do is shittalk and milking other troons for money without producing anything worthwhile.
>>8249255gen large batch until the anatomy is correct -> upscaleleast time consuming method by far
>>8249259yeah he's a big drama queen
>>8249255lowres t2i in batch counts of 4 until gacha gives something workabletake it to photoshop and do light error correction if needed to benefit upscalingupscale i2i, usually with an adjusted prompt, with batch count 4 at high denoisetake to photoshop to error correct/do other shit as needed
>>8249259epic is just a dumb kid
>>8249226>it's not post-processing, you just use a tool that modifies the diffusion process and is entirely non-reproducible unless the other person has the exact same set of tools installed>100% pure text to image :)How is this different from a Photoshop script?All this snake oil and bloat just because purist faggots refuse to open an image editor and click two buttons.
>>8248265
is as109 aco?
>>8249270i barely see any resemblance of as109 here
>>8249270No, but that doesn't look like as109 besides the shading. Pull up literally any as109 image on the booru and you'll see a triangle nose, not nostrils like you have there.
are anons fucking blind here or just stupid
>>8249273both blind and stupid lol, literally abandoned pony for a an inferior fried gook underbakeretard general
>>8249275i wasn't asking you
>>8249270its gookn-Just memeing, Is this Noob? I feel like Noob made Illu totally lose some artists styles
>You idiot! I've got a lecture in 5 minutes!
>>8248697before edits/inpainthttps://files.catbox.moe/3c7xyl.png
>>8249279needs correction
"Just lie still and let me relieve all that str... Ah, there we go."
>>8249271>>8249272opps, were other artist in the promt, nevermind
>>8249269cute tummy
>>8249273lighten up im just joking around
>>8249283which ones? asking unironicallydon't like the face, but skin texture is nice
bluvoll's illustrious-vpred https://drive.google.com/file/d/12ydQ455erkwx5WPS0R0mwQl4PlHSnHvw/view
>>8249275IMHO Illustrious is much better with concepts and styles than pony, even when being underbaked.Also ILL is uncensored."size difference" etc is all there.The only area where pony beats ILL is pony/furry/bestiality stuff, ie "dog penis" "knotted penis" "horse penis" etc.Also gpo/scat/diaper crap. The Horsefucker sabotaging his own model (artist obfuscation, censorshit, generally being an asshole to community) didnt help here either.
>>8248908box?really loving all of these pixelart stuff you've made
>>8249293oh boy here we go
>>8249293nice dolphin porn
>>8249293It's pony isn't it?
>>8249293where did you get this?
>>8249293You can easily check if this is a real thing, as it shouldn't produce anything readable with anything other than the vpred version of ddpm.
Could you please share the best non ai-looking gens you have? I'm tired of melted stuff
>>8249303You start.
>>8249303Sorry, this is a NAI / Illustrious general now. You don't have to see your local eye doctor because that blur is intentional!
>>8249303pony gens were bullied out of this place so all we get now is extremely blurry aislop
>>8249308>>8249305Why are you two not posting, though?
>>8249293might be tarding out but I only get deep fries from this onehttps://files.catbox.moe/q86ilk.png
>>8249324You need vpred sampler
>>8249326Where do I get it?
>>8249324>>8249330You need to use it on Comfy/Swarm or the latest reforge which has alternative model sampling for v-pred. It won't work out of the box on a1111/forge because they don't support v-pred/ztsnr for SDXL.
>>8249331which node is it in comfy
>>8249110you can use quite a bit of resolutions on sdxl.even more so with illustrious since you can use pretty unconventional resolutions and still end up with a good non broken imagelist of SDXL resolutions https://files.catbox.moe/af4y1m.png
>>8249333ModelSamplingDiscrete
>>8249311 >>8249317 >>8249318based, based, and uh, based
sometimes aco is okay
>>8249336thanksdo I just plug it in between the model and the ksampler and set it to v_prediction?
>>8249317>>8249318These are great, thank you for the idea, anon.
>>8249339yes iirc
>>8249341will give it a try, thanks again
>>8249293How can it have even less colors than anything that was tuned before it? Like really, what the hell is wrong
>>8249345That's what zsnr does on early stages
>>8249247Welp, time to uninstall lazy scripts didn't realize he was a WD troon
>>8249293>underbaked and washed out like everything else redditvoll ever tried to makepoetic
>>8249345It was only 20 epochs of 1.7k images trained at 896x896, this shit needs way more compute to look better and also disable zero negative.
>>8249348And what have you produced?
>>8249346>>8249349Okay, 0.1 of 0.1 then, negging quasarcake always the solution for slop tho lol
>>8249340yer welcome, like yours too
>>8249247can he give some example of whats bad about this "community" which is too wide of a term for anything ai related or is he just crying like a bitch because someone was mean to him 3 week ago
>>8249344no, u!!!
>>8249349Have you tried to train a new vae?
>>8249351>egging quasarcake always the solution for slop tho lolDidnt know about him but holy shit that guy must be in every single pixiv slop mix
>>8249352Can I ask what you are using for style? The realistic faces with the sketchy bodies look great.
>>8249324holy soul
>>8249293Lmaooooo turns out bluvoll was the one sperging here constantly about vpred conversion. Then went off about kohya having shit vpred code when that's provably not true. Keeps posting NSFW images in the SFW channels of Eugecoord to shill his own fine-tune as well even though they've made it clear they have a NSFW channel for a reason and people have asked him not to. I'm starting to think the sameface lora baker is a sperg of Jordachian levels.
things getting too aco now..
>>8249356it makes nicest blurry cunnies, at least on NAI
>>8249134>You're stuck in a local minima, retard.I use cosine with restarts so I am not, but that also wouldn't explain that weird as fuck behavior. I don't know why you keep rationalizing this shit. First my LRs were too high, then my LRs were too low, now it's a scheduler issue. But it couldn't just be a bug in train_network or something.
whoever got the entire tranny WD team and their faggy fanclub in Euge's discord: Fuck you, kill yourself Thanks.
>>8249358masterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, rating_explicit, solo, (traditional media, painting \(medium\), anime screenshot:0.5), (ixy:0.5), starshadowmagic,realistic,BREAK1girl, solo, cum, photorealistic, (cum on clothes:1.1), large breasts,(stained clothes:1.1),closed eyes, long hair, straight-on, simple background, black background, upper body, cum on hair, nose blush, looking down, kneeling, train interior, sitting, school uniform, serafuku, sleeping,one breast out, nipples, large areolae, (head tilt:1.2), parted lips, clothes lift
>>8249360>Then went off about kohya having shit vpred code when that's provably not truethe one who started that is actually neggles
>>8249369Yeah and bluvoll was there sucking his balls (sorry, his EGGS) the whole way. Gargling on about kohya being a horrible coder as if he isn't another dime a dozen narcissistic lora baker who never contributed anything to the community.
>>8249371he contributed loras i use them all the time
>>8249350nothing will save you from being the laughingstock of /hdg/, blur*dditor lol
>>8249371Can't wait to see cosxl trained in kohya, euge already struggles doing basic vpred
>>8249360>Lmaooooo turns out bluvoll was the one sperging here constantly about vpred conversion.no that's this guy: https://civitai.com/user/poefgwjorh/models
>>8249279Should have kept it in your mouth then!
>>8249372Oh yeah, same with Noche Kaiser right? The more I read the more I realize extreme retards these people are. The world would be a better place if every WD supporter like him were nuked.
bluboll
>>8249365oobox?
>>8249367please give compute....you dont want to disappoint the make a wish retarded kid we brought along do you...he is gonna die very soon, his only wish was for compute maybe that can double as his christmas gift too since he still believe in santa
>>8249374They said they aren't using Kohya, keep up. That's just wdfags sperging Euge needs to use their super amazing Neggles trainer that totally worked and didn't ruin his every attempt at WD with countless bugs lol,lmao
>>8249364Then I don't know what fuck the issue is. Maybe it's because you're using loss masks and it's buggy. Or because you're trying to train a lora (which is confirmed buggy, but for other anon with the finetune it didn't work either so that's probably not it). Or you're indeed stuck in a local minima and you need to raise your learning rate even further. Works like a charm on my machine and on Illustrious cluster.>>8249176Same.
>>8249293Neat. Gave me a #010101 black when prompted, but yeah, looks washed out on actual gens. Guess it's proof of concept though and that's what matters at this stage.
Or they can use a fucking SimpleTuner that has already been used to train vpred+ztsnr...
>>8249380>you dont want to disappoint the make a wish retarded kid we brought along do you...sasuga, finally EPIC's origin story is released...
I think bluvoll doesnt deserve the hate he gets
>>8249388you would think otherwise if you read his spergouts on trooncord. I used to think the same thing as you but I get what that poster is talking about now. kind of adds up if you remember the times he used to come here and tardrage at the thread for making fun of his sameface loras
>>8249379It's Novelai, you don't need a box link.
>>8249389did he rage at this tho? i remember him just saying he sucked at prompting and coming up with original prompt (which is kinda worrying)
>>8249385>"anons" making fun of Euge for "not being able to figure out vpred" >Euge posts what kind of results he gets with vpred that have made him think it's not implemented right >he shows a noisy, washed out, pixelated shit image like what bluvolls "conversion" creates >turns out Euge's problem with implementing vpred has been that he was listening to bluvoll and neggles this whole time HAHAHAHA the comedy never ends
>>8249317>>8249318>>8249340>>8249352did you inpaint these or managed to gen them directly? They're surprisingly consistent not to be img2img
>>8249381Naifu literally has 1:1 kohya vpred code. And I really wonder what failed attempts you mean, unless debugging code by doing test runs is that. The WDV alpha is a working prototype that shows their trainer working without TE training which was implemented the moment they lost the compute, hence the borrowed TE.
/hdg/ - 100% drama 0% gens
>>8249385Anons already forgot how much compute NAI used in their paper to convert the model, maybe they should read it again
>>8249398better to look at textposts than civit jeetslop
Is there saggy / heavy tits lora that i should use? That isn't in CivitAI
>>8249398that's n-not /h/ b-baka!
>>8249394yeah, he said that at first but it quickly evolved to him coming here and raging for posts on end. I remember one particularly cringe inducing incident around the early Jordach era, too. I hate that I spend enough time on here to have picked this up, but once you start to follow what bluvoll is doing you start to notice repeat spergout arguments in hdg about those things too. his specific lora baking techniques, zsnpr/vpred, so on. he only acts humble very briefly before his tardrage kicks in
>>8249395Yet neggles is the only baker that managed to write his own code and make working model out of it, strange. Surely euge isn't texting neggles as we speak
>>8249407neggles hasnt produced anything relevant in his life
>>8249403sagging_breasts works just fine for me
>>8249407>the only baker that managed to write his own code and make working modelJordach would like to have a word
>>8249403there's no need for a lora, sagging_breasts, braless and huge_breasts work wonders, hanging breasts as well but it's normally making the girl lean forward or the camera be high up
>>8249397>Naifu literally has 1:1 kohya vpred code.Which Euge addressed >that shows their trainer working without TE training which was implemented the moment they lost the compute, hence the borrowed TE.Heh are you one of his eggs? We all saw the ""working prototypes"" and Neggles cries about his own trainer, you can't rewrite reality with your dick sucking.
>>8249411Meant vpred + zsnr ( their own weird kind )>>8249414You can literally go and download the sdv model and test the implementation yourself
>>8249407>and make working model out of it,yeah gonna need proof on that, champ even jordachs locking in shitbake worked better than troongles failures and that shit is a mess. poor euge was mislead by trooncord fags into believing wdtards are who he needed to ask for help. so far all they've done is whine, beg and give bad advice that his team is quickly learning doesn't pan out. that's why he keeps asking for more details/help, they think they're just missing vital information. in reality they're witnessing incompetence and gifting in real time.
>new lora of artist i like>they include ALL of their art which includes their early offputting stylefuck's sake
>>8249417>You can literally go and download the sdv modelFeel free to check back in the thread when everyone but you (apparently) did test neggles shit bake and quickly threw it into the trash. You wdzoomers are cancer, complete summerfags
>>8249417>Meant vpred + zsnrDid he take the vpred code for his weird sd1 tune from somewhere else? Doesn't strike me as a very jordach thing to do
>>8249396Mine (3rd one) was a straight gen. there's barely any inpainting, too, aside from fixing a break where the legs cross.
>>8249417*WDV, ups typo>>8249418Ange had it in his test arena, illustrious paper has WDV in it and it's not as bad as people think it is, just the nsfw is very undertrained without proper TE training and overall better bake
>>8249413I mostly need heavy breast + sagging breast combo. But i try hanging breasts
>>8249424NTA but>troons supporting troons shocked SHOCKED
>>8249424>WDV isn't as bad as literally everyone has concluded, guys! It isn't! It just needs another year of failed compute!!! Yeah you're just trying to piggyback off gooknais FOMO success now, fuck off.
>>8249427Is there any baker that's not hated by hdg
>>8249295https://files.catbox.moe/49amzi.png
>>8249429the one who delivers without cutting xir dick off. we even overlooked angels troon status before he freaked out about making the model SFW and closed source
>>8249428I don't understand what you mean by piggyback, it was just a elo arena with wdv and other models in it. Unless you mean neggles paid Ange to be included in there and manipulated votes, which would be funny
>>8249429Honestly if these people stopped posting their blog entries and hot takes publically there would be nothing to hate. Yet here we are, because local bakers are largely narcisstic attention whores.
>>8249429No, and it just proves Derrian is right for talking down on the "community" for being picky with handouts that cost tens of thousands of dollars to train. Hating Astralite is warranted, though.
>>8249432I think he meant you're trying to make it sound better by adding commentary about angel in there. but I'm really here for the fakevotes tinfoil saga
my images get washed out and lose detail in the final steps as if i didn't have a vae, but i'm using one, is this a known solvable issue? Using NoobXLpreview before image finishes: https://files.catbox.moe/juretb.png
>>8249437There's only one real VAE for SDXL (the fp16 fix), what you're experiencing is noob being trained on like 10 million 90% compressed webp images for 5 epochs. The model's color space is fucked.
>>8249434nah, >>8249433 is right. I don't think I've ever even see anyone here talk bad about derrian distro until the recent whining screenshot. hdg shills his UI, if anything. Neggles, Astralite and Bluvoll all came here to post and dug their own graves face to face ontop of everything else. Jordach was surprisingly sane when posting here but then doubled down on being a sped on discord for some reason.
>>8249434People are not being picky with handouts they are just using the best model available, the model costing thousands doesnt mean it will be worth anything. Training model is still not a solved process so he cant be crying about people not licking a shitty epoch just because it cost a lotModel maker are not entitled to praise if they make garbage, expecting pat on the back even when you produce shit is just a recipe for stagnation
>>8249441This and this >>8249433 100%
part of me wishes Euge team lurked here so they could see the truth about the kind of people giving them advice the other part wouldn't want them further poisoned by this cesspit hard trade off, honestly
Can any historians refresh me on the lore about comfyanonymous? He's hated because he did basically the same thing as all other namefags and fellated himself on while shitting on a1111 on /g/, right?
>>8249444there is probably someone shit talking everyone directly to Euge honestly
>>8249444>so they could see the truth about the kind of people giving them adviceThink they already saw it when the westoid presence kicked off with Neggles arguing and derailing a channel about danbooru gold images. It was about then the Chinese all moved to QQ and cited cultural differences...
Imagine being a grown ass man and being upset at some sarcastic comments on a mongoloid basket weaving forum...
>gooknai releases>underbaked, blurry and artifacts galore>"I'll wait until there's a stable mix">gooknoobnai releases>finally I can be free of pony>10 hours of looking for nice style mixes>most combinations are complete dogshit>impossible to wildcard a wide range of styles for the same set of tags>more creative than pony, but most of the "creativity" leads to anatomical fuckupsIt's so tiresome... At least my pony lora wildcards worked consistently with my prompt.
Since when did /hdg/ start hating transfolk? Is this a /pol/ psyop?
Derrian's crying about toxicity is justified. Even if WD managed to get the compute and had the most pristine, the most perfect setup for next best local bake, I'd try to sabotage it best I could. The only thing neggles should be successful at is suicide.
>>8249434>"""handouts""" are unusable shit>be surprised that people don't herald them and shower them with praise and offers of under the table fellatio I mean, I get it since no one wants to necessarily waste money/a lot of 'free' compute. But if they didn't want to negative reactions maybe they should've just like, I dunno, done better, or something.
>>8249449most people here don't want to admit it but you need a strong western artist to stabilize a mixim baking a Riz lora right now, might do Afrobull or Tangobat laterno trigger words of course because those are causing big fucking issues if you want to mix
>>8249451Jordach, tree is gone. Accept it
>>8249451why
>>8249445That's part of it. The other part is his weird tirade against illya (forge creator) where he and his recruited trannys went on a year long smear campaign on every venue available to them claiming forge stole comfys code, even after it being proven that was a lie. Even Reddit hates and ignores him at this point. He's also extremely smug and frequently sucks his own ass, while frankly being quite a bit of a talentless hack code wise. Adds in his flavor of BPD homosexual drama everywhere he goes and often goes on about blatantly incorrect things, like claiming Comfy is the most popular because of its Google rate (not like people would be Googling how to use the least straight forward interface, amirite?). Bad taste in a lot of people's mouths when he shit talked SAI from an internal perspective too (not because they didn't agree, but because of how unprofessional it was). Guy has extreme troon mentality.
>>8249451based
>>8249449I dont care about the fomo so i'll just stick to reweik, im happy with what I have and im not annoyed enough to swap for a cope model, i'll just wait for something worth
Which lora is this?
>>8249457Didn't he also constantly post how he had an offer from some Japanese studio to use comfy and was moving out to Japan despite him never posting any kind of proof.
>>8249461dont know but nice pube
>>8249446I pray there is>>8249450The entire world openly hates troons now, it's 2024. They're no longer a protected minority, people got wise to their bullshit and are free to express their honest feelings now. Plus the astroturfing promotion of it on 4chan has finally died down. Call it pol if you want, but there's no way that wasn't a concentrated, outside effort. Shit was insane for a time.
>>8249462that was ani, his fag boyfriend, and he did post a "proof"with metadata attached which contained (most likely) his name lmao
>>8249462I think so, he's in bed with that ani faggot. /ldg/ could probably tell you more since /g/ bore the brunt of his cess
>>8249457don't forget that his le discord hijacked and raided /g/ 24/7 and made the thread beyond unusable.>>8249462that was well after. also at some point ani was doxxed and found to be a literal who that has done and achieved nothing before withering away into obscurity.
>>8249461Damn, would you mind sharing artists/tags for those nippers? You could poke an eye out with those.
>>8249470are you stupid
>>8249470I'm searching for them as well
>>8249471topkek
>>8249471Yeah, my bad.
>>8249441this, just because it cost money to make doesn't mean it's actually good, that's a fallacy
>>8249471Man was blinded by his desire for the nips, we can't fault him
>>8249476It's true, my 3 troglodyte neurons started firing when I saw weird nips and I didn't read properly. My apologies.
>>8249481we've all been there brother
>WDVshilling and faggot defense force posts stop as soon as bluvoll starts actively conversing in discordI'm NOOTICING
>>8249461Going back to this puffy nipples. Someone in pixiv said they could be "Pointy breasts" or whatever lora from Civitai. But cant find metadata from their arts
the creature
>>8249437>as if i didn't have a vae, but i'm using oneWithout a VAE, you wouldn't have an image.
>>8249491The perfect woman
>euge is incapable of even genning on cosxl correctlyit's so over
>>8249247The community is quite positive, I don't know what they are on about.I really hope they aren't taking /hdg/ banter and shitposts as a representation of the "community".
>>8249496the real community is the ai art channel on the wd discord after all
>>8249496Most model makers seems to be obsessesed with satisfying this shithole of a thread
>>8249449>10 hours of looking for nice style mixes>most combinations are complete dogshitclearly a skill issue.
>>8249499for better or worse, hdg seems to be the only place that can actually tell if a model is usable or not in very short order.So seeking validation here is more or less just the standard litmus test for if your model was a success or a failure.
huuh
Does NovelAI recongnise Mizuryu Kei's style? If prompted
>>8249504timestamps doko?
Now that the dust has settled: Why haven't there been any b-chama updates? Our queen has finally returned and I've yet to see any discord screenshots. It's as if I'm expected to download discord myself, horrible.
>>8249504>Makes UI>Thinks this makes him God of the loras kek wtf is it about wdv that attracts such troon mentality
>>8249496no one is taking this place seriously so I really dont think he is talking about itwhich bring the question what the fuck is he even talking about
>>8249491You may not like it, but this is what peak feminity looks like.
Wholesome
>>8249510the only thing i take seriously around here is getting on the highlights
>>8249504WAWAWA NOT EVERYONE IS SUCKING MY DICK NON STOP THIS COMMUNITY IS SO TOXIC
>>8249508She hasn't said anything noteworthy
>>8249512Nice to see Saber rehabilitation from BBC addiction is going well
Direct hit with the cum projectile, tragic.
>>8249514Yeah someone pretty TRANSparently wanted a hugbox
>>8249513We making it on there with this one
>>8249517cumbox?
>>8249502You're right, I should just copy the first sloppa style I see people use here and never change it.
>>8249508because it was funny to shitpost about b- when all she did was suck jordach's dick and circlejerk about his obvious failbake, not when she's pushing for ruining the 512xh100 cluster model with NL captionsit's a similar logic to how it was easier to call euge cute when he wasn't about to waste as much compute as nai3 had with with his incompetence
>>8249505yeah
>>8249523>not when she's pushing for ruining the 512xh100 cluster model with NL captionsPics?
>>8249520It's >>>/e/2907417 (NAI) put through Director Tools Colorize 5 with this prompt: {{bukkake}}, {{{torn clothes}}}, cum, cum on hips, cum on mons, nipples, nsfw, areola slip, navy top, puffy nipples, exploding clothes
>>8249504>despite being the one who made the UI nearly everybody on 4can was using for lora training, nobody listened to mekek what a salty drama queen. The ui does nothing more than just passing params to sd-scripts backend. Thats fucking it.You dint invent shit or improved training in any way. People were using it simply because it was easier than running sd-scripts per custom script or running bloated kohya_ss.
>>8249528>exploding clothesshould play around with this
>>8249530UI makers are used to everyone sucking their dicks because they always get all the credit when the thing they wrap does all the actual hard work. Yes, I'm salty, but it's not AI related.
>>8249503we actually have standardsand a lot of anime characters have very complex designs and artstyles so it's easy to see why
>>8249530>minimal effort autist get a huge ego and start bitching when he doesnt get the attention he think he deservetales as old as time
>>8249504nobody listened to you because you were fucking wrong
>>8249526
>>8249537:)opinion discarded instantly
>>8249537>i just want to be a part of something bigI don't know what I was expecting...
>>8249538What opinion
>>8249516I barely even see this artoria getting genned other sabers yeah they are getting a lot of black dick
>>8249455nEGGles
>>8249522there are literally hundreds of styles to choose from or you can mix and match a new one to your liking, anon. Also no censorship
>>8249543billions of styles and i choose oppossumachine
>>8249537She's retarded for wanting NL but I can respect that she's trying to do what they're actually asking for help on. Every time Euge asks for something there are 10 personalities going off topic about what they think is best, when it's already been repeated ad nauseum.
>>8249537no concept were hashed, what is this guy talking about
>>8249544based
>>8249544jsut mix a new one than
>>8249537How does someone even make the claim that pony was only stable due to "NL" it's the only model that was trained this way as far as I know, so making conclusion from a sample size of 1 seems dumb.
>>8249546Ironically a is the only person in there who says anything worth reading.
>>8249549narcissism
Training on Noob has made me have this nagging feeling that everything is just slightly wrong with the outputsMight be that the tried and trusted pony settings I found here don't play too well with Noob I guess
>>8249550hello, a. consider killing yourself
>>8249548How about possummachine plus... nyantcha!
>>8249537I'll still love you, b-chan. I CAN FIX HER
>>8249549someone called just "a" could very well actually be an astralite altit's likely a combination of nl and the varied dataset that made pony stable though
>>8249555jordach...
>>8249554and YD!!
>>8249523I thought we liked her nudes
>>8249550I mean maybe but that still doesnt mean concept were hashed, I get shitting on astralite but there is enough reason for it you dont need to invent new one
>>8249552see >>8249438it's the webp compression. if they don't switch to the uncompressed datasets for the full bake we're going to have pony all over again.
>>8249556Holy shit imagine if it was Astralite
>>8249562why the fuck do people keep doing this stupid shit
>>8249561loli?
>>8249560Sir...[spoiler]Link??[/spoiler]
>>8249565every competent anime baker got hired by nai
>>8249537while I wouldn't say it's incorrect to attribute the use of NL as a sort of stabilizing portion of pony, I think that's really glossing over the fact that it only acted as such because the model was SO COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY FUCKED otherwise.This isn't NL being a positive attribution. It's NL diluting the shitpot with another, different flavor of shit to prevent the other flavors of shit from overtaking everything else.
>>8249570all 2 of them
>>8249562What's wrong with webp compression? It uses the same YCbCr space with 8-bit depths as JPEG
>>8249556>>8249564They sound more like someone from here. Astralite also isn't as technically inclined or opinionated, dude didn't even understand what caption dropout meant/is when he was begging Lykon for lunch with SAI
>>8249566you can do loli just fine, the anatomy being garbage for it is another issue but some artist make it better
>>8249573It's just retards parroting what they read troons on discord claim without any knowledge, understanding or exploration themselves, as usual Also as usual: they won't propose simple solutions or give those ready made solutions to Euge, they're all opinionated idea men
>>8249504the idea that people trying to steer that project thought that there was ever valuable discussion on /hdg/ is crazy>>8249562webp can be lossless or at least high enough quality that it isn't a problem. have they actually posted examples where the dataset is using the complete dogshit quality settings?
>>8249573it's not webp that's the problem, the problem is that the e621 dataset they're using is saved at 90% quality
>>8249575i advice you to try to do that on the base model, not on some random jeetmix
>>8249562Since webp has a bunch of settings I can't be too sure. There are lossy settings too don't get me wrong, but I think the main issue is from compounding the losses and artifacts that come from reencoding jpg images into webp images. Anyway I think I might just release these loras on civitai as is, I've been agonising over this particular one for too long now that I think I'll give up until their finished product is out.
>>8249580is autism a jeetmix? havent used base pony in month
>>8249571Don't a lot of the realism/all purpose sdxl models use NL captions pretty successfully? I've never tried them myself but I see them being prompted with full NL on Civit and they follow the prompts well from what I've seen Wasn't SDXL mainly NL to begin with? I don't get why everyone thinks NL won't work with it
>>8249582yes
>>8249574this dumbass was arguing in a recent thread that NL captions are the one positive contribution we should take from pony so yeah he's from here
>>8249578All 3 datasets use 90% quality. This shouldn't do anything to the colour space, it can make the samples noisy/blurry (like jpeg), and there fore gens.Colours can be fucked if they used different VAE during the bake.
>>8249583They do and it will, people here have brainrot and deranged parrot syndrome
>>8249584well havent tried loli on pny and I cant be arsed to download it
>>8249586None of those things sound good to me, I hope they fix it
qrd on noobai?
>>8249587Have you actually used those models? They are dogshit at prompt following
>>8249583realism model dont have access to millions of pictures manually tagged by porn addicted weeb
>>8249591And they're an absolute pain in the ass to caption your data, yeah.
>>8249583NL is a regression as far as actual prompting goes. You want certain mechanisms that you can get out of NL but you don't actually want *full* NL. And a lot of the functions you'd want out of NL you can get purely from booru tags, anyway.And you can full boomer prompt on 1.5 and it'll sometimes maybe listen to you occasionally. It's not really following NL prompting it's just pulling individual tags out of the input string and working with it.
>>8249590washed out and less detailed, but less artifacted. good horse cock
>>8249595it's really distracting how the cum from the penis is stylistically different from the rest of the cum on the image
>>8249599That's the first thing I noticed, am I gay bros?
>>8249596I don't see how this invalidates Euge team using NL to help tie booru tags together? Everyone says NL won't work but it works on SDXL models 1000x more popular than pony like Juggernaut?
>>8249602the fuck is juggernaut
>>8249601no, that's normal
>>8249588well you cal always try (gpo:1.3)
>>8249602has anyone ever heard of juggernaut? i sure haven;t
>>8249602literal who ass model
>>8249602Hdg just hates whatever they're told to hate. With Jordach's failbake they said it'd suck because it didn't have NL and only used booru tags (it sucked but for other reasons, of course). Now they hate Euge team for wanting to add some NL captions in with the booru tags. There is just no winning if you're in the crab bucket
>>8249601Yes, this was a test. You're gay, now.
>>8249602It works so well that as soon as Flux dropped people forgot about XL and shat on it's shitty prompt following
>>8249612Flux is trained on the same pre-training dataset as XL, though. BFL stole SAI's data when they left.
>>8249604>>8249608>>8249609You say this because it doesn't do coom or anime, I don't use it either. It's still one of the most popular AI models/maybe the most popular SDXL model online that isn't Saas.
>>8249614>You say this because it doesn't do coom or animeYes, it's dead. Just like Flux
>>8249613well, that's just not true
>>8249616You are correct, I'm retarded. It was trained on the same dataset as SD3.
>>8249612They would have though, if Flux hadn't pruned artists and shit out a distilled model. No one would dispute that flux has better prompt understanding. But that's besides the point since it also has t5, billions more params and a whole different arch. Retarded comparison
>>8249614so what is it then
>>8249610people just want nai at home (or a slightly better nai at home). we already had the recipe for it from wdv and then nai themselves confirmed most of it and yet these guys still want to do retarded shit that isn't proven to give good results.
>>8249610literally no one said cascade would be bad due to lack of NL>>8249614and yet it doesn't even have its own subcategory on civit.
>>8249612If flux had a hentai coom finetune I promise you no one would touch sdxl and we'd all be learning how to boomer prompt
>>8249618The point of the comparison is that NL is only worth anything with the T5, there is no case for it with CLIP alone because even the most popular model that uses get shit on for bad prompt following.
>>8249622>and yet it doesn't even have its own subcategory on civit.the only reason pony has its own is because it's so fried loras for SDXL don't work on it, not because it's popular lmao
>>8249625Kek he is just making pony 2.0 at this point
>>8249625This is incredibly logical and the people naysaying it are retards. When their model comes out and we're all using it you faggots better remember what niggers you were so you can stop your mindless bullshit in the future
>>8249629this is the jordach cascade saga all over again
>>8249627Isn't pony 2.0 with Nai style literally what we want though >>8249621I'm tired of everyone obsessing over local Nai, go back to the WD discord and pray for a leak. I want a capable and aesthetically pleasing model, I want better than Nai
>>8249629Get back to making vpred to work, Euge
>>8249629You gotta lay off those racist slurs, buddy.
>>8249587are you more qualified than angel when it comes to training anime models with NL?
>>8249626it's got nothing to do with it being fried. I mean, it absolutely is, but that's not the reason why.It's because pony is such a far derivation from XL base combined with it being popular.
>>8249631Jordach Cascade saga was obvious shit from the get go and all of Jordach's models have been bad previously. Euge's failbake at least showed promise and half of this thread is currently using the teams partial illustrious tune
>>8249632Hard as fuck to train with a incredibly hard to get rid of base style. Fuck no!
>8 cord screenshots in the thread so farwe finally have a decent local model yet the drama only continues to grow
>>8249632>I want a capable and aesthetically pleasing modelso you want local nai
>>8249632>We want pony 2.0Who the fuck said that?
>>8249635Angel has claimed everything he does was a stupid idea without actually having a fresh bake that doesn't implement said stupid idea as a comparison Not to mention the problem described is completely negated by short NL which is what Euge is talking about >>8249637It's such a far deviation because it's fried, the fuck are you even saying. It was just gaining popularity when they gave it a category, if anything them giving it one helped it out
>>8249625>>8249635Why is training model such a crapshot? You would think there would be a proven method
>>8249625that seems reasonable
>>8249641>decent local modelWhich one?
>>8249640>>8249643you're hallucinating, reread the post
>>8249644>It's such a far deviation because it's friedthanks for clarifying that you're actually retarded.
>>8249646testing is insanely expensive and time consumingthere are like 4 billion levers to pull which leads people to not test changes scientifically. i.e. one change at a time
>>8249642 Nai has great aesthetic but it's prompt comprehension is unironically shit and anyone who claims otherwise has never used it - t. Opus tier
baitniggers woke up i see
>>8249653true
>>8249649>Not answering the question
>>8249650Ah, the baiting jeet finally woke up. Slept in today, did you, bud?
>>8249644that's not the only problem angel has with NL captions and i only included it in the screenshot so i don't get accused of omitting context. i do agree that angel's comments on what worked and didn't work for him are unreliable for the reason you gave, but the question remains: why should i trust your opinion over that of the guy with actual experience?
>>8249635if the issue is excessive token padding then why not include multiple sets of captions in each file and then select one caption length to use for each batch?
>>8249658I'm not giving my opinion. I'm referencing pre-existing SDXL models that are infinitely more successful than angel's outside of hdg uses
>>8249653Yeah but NLP ain't gonna fix that. Prompt wise there is nothing to be done on XL only the next gen models can help with that. Don't waste a good shot at getting a better model chasing a mythical unicorn
>>8249659you can do that but length isn't the only issue
>>8249659That's what anyone whose even trained loras on both captions would do but HRT is hard on his brain, please understand
>>8249662we don't have the recent versions of angel's model to compare with how those perform with NL. and the whole problem is that we want a model for /h/, otherwise i would agree that slop like juggernaut is a better point of reference
>noob takes all the sovl out of my illust mixeserm... nope!
>>8249663>Yeah but NLP ain't gonna fix that.So how do we explain all the sdxl models with NLP having better prompt understanding? Cause it's not just pony, pony is just the only one we'd bother with in this general
>>8249660Huh... Taesi?
>>8249667>recent versions of angel's modeland this slopbakie of the month matters why?
>>8249667>otherwise i would agree that slop like juggernaut is a better point of referenceHow's it not a better point of reference in terms of using NLP to aid tags though? Being trained on different picture styles doesn't change that...
>>8249671because it is the one and only real /h/ model trained on NL captions and even its creator said it was a bad idea
>>8249662It came out before his and at the very low point of both image gen and XL what kind of stupid comparison is that?and literally no one praises the realism XL models for their prompt following, stop with this weird hallucination you are having.
>>8249670yup, its stupid how easily it captured the style, when this took me about 4 bakes on pony to get something that was passable
>>8249669i think people are conflating NLP a la "gpt3 making a uselessly verbose description" with NLP a la "this has descriptions of where things are in the image in relation to the other things in the image"
Still better than 'Lustrious.
>>8249680always.
>>8249677Nice. Wasn't expecting to see this today. Now we can generate our very own LO OCs.
>>8249669If reddit is anything to go by most there recommend the pony realism models for their use of danbooru tags because it lets it follow prompt better kek
>>8249678Clearly they are, but it's retarded because they've been shown proof and told a thousand times that's not how it is. These idiots think adding NL will mean they can't just keep tag prompting, they don't understand it's the work NL does behind the scenes that Euge team wants
>>8249653its a featureits either you get model creativity or fried pony pose where you need a lora for every variant of a pose
Has anybody managed to produce good reverse fellatio on Illustrious? Mine all come out shit. Please, share your wisdom, I'll take any interesting irrumatio positionshttps://files.catbox.moe/vqset2.png
>>8249685What proof? Real models don't follow prompt better ffs
>>8249684You realize every pony based model has NL captions in it, right?
ok but what if you take a training image and take like 10 random 256x256 crops of the image and run them through a wd tagger and then map each crop's output to a location on the image and use the captions and overlapping zones to develop a map of where each feature of the caption is on the training image and then convert that into basic information like "girl standing to the right of a chair" and add those to training captions
>>8249688Proof that's not what Euge wants to put in the captions as NL you retard
>>8249690bad idea + kys
>>8249688The models that use NL follow tag based prompts better because the NL ties it together, no one actually wants to caption NL to prompt with NL. Fucking tiktok attention spans can't follow a conversation
>>8249660>>8249677hot
>>8249668This is what I concluded as well. Noob gens come out more stiff and rigid. It does better genitalia, but I don't want to sacrifice the overall image just for that.
>>8249695Like where is this even coming from is my questions? Anyway this is getting nowhere you are set on some BS conclusion made from thin air without any air of proof, good luck sabotaging the model o7
For me, it's going in and manually flipping the bits in the latents
>>8249701based latent space scavenger
>>8249700>o7Should've known it was a wdv trooncoorder
>>8249700prompt on flux for like 10 minutes and you can see the strength of NLP, shitty crippled dataset notwithstanding
>>8249704retard
>>8249699shave.
>>8249700you didn't ask any questions you nonce
>>8249706great post
>>8249699don't shave.
1girl, loli, excessive pubic hair
>>8249704People will dismiss you saying it's not comparable because of t5 but it shows how much NL can aid in prompt comprehension. Clip is capable of using shorter NL just fine so this idea it doesn't apply to SDXL is pure fantasy. I think the biggest misconception is from people trying to prompt on pony with NL and not getting good results, not understanding that isn't the point of it in this usecase at all
>>8249712You would need incredibly concise but accurate and logical NL descriptions to effectively utilize NLP on Clip, and unfortunately "this image conveys a whimsical mystical anime style" is just a waste of tokens.
>epic is awake >baiter starts posting >both confirmed jeets in the same timezone with the same zoomerismsNOTICING
>>8249711i came
>>8249714>both complete fanboy of niggle ideacurious
>>8249665based
>>8249713Yes?? The wasteful captions are the ones Euge doesn't want to use, holy shit, what part of that do you faggots not get
>>8249714this was posted by the baiter btw
>>8249683making LO girls is so addicting,if you'd like another lo artists lora just let me know and ill bake ithttps://mega.nz/folder/27AXgLSS#-ojw0WbGra04b2Aps31HBg>>8249696thanks anon LO sluts are a different breed of gacha whores
it just dawned on me that probably all the GPT 4 vision NL slopbakes got their entire shit truncated because of kohyas 225 token limitOH NONONONONONONNO
Is Clippy in the room with us right now anon?
>>8249720Has he made a captioner we don't know about?
Low IQ anon here that doesn't have a particularly good understanding of the training and tokenization works. Not trying to stir the pot, but is it because Angel tried training NLP that illustrious understands things that aren't booru tags? For example you can use things like 'auburn hair' or 'rose hair' as opposed to 'red hair'? You can even do weird shit like 'fabric hair'
>>8249703Damn didn't want to waste my time with this anymore but I gotta defend my honor here. I fucking hate discord and any asshole that uses that cesspool, I unironically like you bastards better.
>>8249729the version of illustrious we have doesn't have any NLP training in it
>>8249729the version of illustrious we have was trained on raw danbooru captions with no additional modification
>>8249727Did he snipe her ovum from outside?
>>8249731>>8249732Ah my mistake, thanks for correcting me. But I'm still curious, how does it understand things that aren't correct tags?
>>8249734because it still has some base sdxl knowledge
>>8249734It extrapolates. You can prompt for "light areola" even though there is only a tag for dark areola because it saw areola enough times that it figured out what needs to happen. This comes from base training.
>>8249733her pussy is connected to the onahole so yeah
>>8249335>taesi loraplease post, anon
>>8249729Nah, I assume that it's leftover clip language understanding, even NAI can usually understand color tags that aren't directly on danbooru.
>>8249734because base sdxl has them
It is just me or 4chan is really fucking slow right now
>>8249736>>8249738>>8249742Neat. It's pretty good for getting specific properties that don't necessarily have a tag, and I guess there's a limit on how far you can stretch it before it doesn't understand. Thanks for explaining
>>8249726you can instruct any vlm to use concise my, short sentences, x amount of sentences, refrain from using uncertain language or yz kind of phrases, so on
>>8249747is there any vlm that can do this consistently for anime nsfw images?
>>8249747>concise my,not sure where the my came from
>>8249739this is a super janky prompt ngl
>>8249751Strange but cool concept
>>8249722Oh, a treasure trove. Thank you based anon.Hmm, not sure what other artists I'd want. I haven't tried to see if Illustrious can do Snowball yet, though perhaps focusing on his LO art might improve the quality.
>>8249748I'm not the anon you were originally talking to but I've been experimenting with a few for flux and yeah, I think it's possible with some prompt tweaking. joycaptions very recent updates actually made it pretty good too considering the low params, except it spazzes out randomly and stops producing NL until you slap it a few times. accuracy is still hit and miss though. I don't really care about NL being in a sdxl bake, but I do think the caption type is viable..
I've been genning for 3 months and I still don't know what the best way to upscale is. Is it highresfix with low denoise? Mass gen at low res then img2img the ones that dont look like shit? Is there a better upscaler then others?
>>8249770Deepshrink into high res fix
>>8249740already posted it >>8249722>>8249757snowballs a good idea,ill probably bake him later todayI'm also open to any other illustrious lora requests from anons here
>>8249770Absolutely never upscale an image before you see it and fix it. It's a waste of your time and your GPU's time.if you've got it perfect and just need it bigger use any relevant upscaler. 8x nomos, swin IR, esgran anime, or whatever is currently hip.If you want to add details/change it up, upscale with mixture of diffusers or controlnet of the same image.
troonsisterbros we rise
>>8249775oh no no no
uh oh
>>8249774Deepshrink is fast AF boiii. Only GPU poors have to worry about muh gentime
*slosh*
>>8249772rekaerb maerd is similar in terms of bodies to taesi and snowball
so noob is the autismmix of base pony?
>>8249784nope
>>8249784in the sense of being a shitmix/tune with worse colors that only retards use yeah
>>8249778It's objectively wrong to upscale an image before fixing it unless your goal is to shit out sloppa as fast as possible. If the goal is to create a good piece you want to fix it before making it big. Plain and simple. It applies to everything in the world.
>Ha~a?! Naze?! Kore wa yamete kudasai!!
>>8249795
if you want pony to die you gotta make the replacement palatable to its usersi was wondering why my lora ended up being more washed out but then realized the guy's newer art which i focused on is just drawn using less saturated colors
>>8249795never post japanese that dogshit here ever again
>>8249795perfect example of what happens when you upscale an image before looking at it.handle connected to a wall. sink dicks. incoherent background/foregroundnote: I don't mean to shit on you in particular but your image was a perfect example of what I was talking about.
>>8249772>already posted itholy based thanks anon
>>8249793Working on a bigger canvas will give you better gens.
>>8249797It won't be palatable until full release.
so this... is the power of NAI...
>>8249807impressive
>>8249784smoothft either with the spo lora or the baked-in spo version is the way to go. everything else so far is experimental and destabilizes model outputs or fucks the colors like noob.
>>8249807that will be 25$/month thank you very much
>>8249807pay up
>>8249807Kek the dude be stylin in those heel feet
>>8249812crazy how little you have to pay for what is by far the best /h/ model we've ever had, right?
Seriously, who the fuck is this EPIC retard?
>>8249817me
>>8249807I mean, it did what you put on the prompt, what is the issue?
seems like pony character loras are still perfectly servicable for reinforcing them in illui was worried i'd have to go baking again.....
>>8249825stop coping and heat up that oven anon
>>8249827nevermind you're right im super copingtried a character that illu barely knows and god damn it gave me shit
>>8249772>I'm also open to any other illustrious lora requests from anons hereA lot of things I might want lol.Grimgrim or Rindou (radical dream) might be nice.
i unironically have more faith in bluvoll spearheading a vpred conversion of illustrious than I do of euge's project yielding something worthwhile. that's how grim things are.
>>8249848Same. At least his model generates... something.
>>8249165How? I installed cuda 12.4 toolkit and pip freeze doesn't work. Tried a clean install.
please someone let jordach in the euge discord, it will be very funny i promise
>>8249856We have enough people sabotaging that project don't need to add another one kek
it's really weird that Pony barely budged with the "shortstack" tag but Illu will turn your character practically into a square of ass and tits with it
>>8249854Why would you want to install the *toolkit*?
moon rabbit sex
>>8249862Love the skin color contrast
I believe in Euge and friends :) POSITIVITY ANONS!
>>8249867b--chama...
>>8249817Just a teenage idiot who wants to belong to something big.
>benchmarking disfigured 1536x2048 gens with different cuda versions>windows crashes>benchmark times go from 42 seconds to 50sasuga windows...
Y'all are confusing me.What checkpoint should I gen with?
>>8249877We all use FLUX 1.dev here
>>8249877abyssorangemix
>>8249877illustrious or noob, probably.
>>8249877With the one that allows you do to the things you want
>>8249883But what do I want??
Anyone know how to control body proportions exactly? Or really even just consistency for certain things in general? Like imagine if you could specify numbers for how large you want things to be instead of using vague words. Is such a thing possible?
>>8249885Chase the sweet sepia tones anon...
>>8249877if you care about innate knowledge of artists and innate model creativityone of the illustrious babies. probably illustrious smooth spo is best.if you care about anatomypony baby. probably aaaautism or autism.
>>8249885probably sexy hentai?
>>8249887use controlnet
>>8249887That's what weights are for.
>>8249861I just want to make kohya faster.
How come I can do this first try, but trying to generate a cute girl swimming in pretty lake with a vista is so hard?
>>8249877Illustrious or Pony.Based67 if you want to be contrarian.
>1/10th posts have a imagedo better
>>8249902>nogenBe the change you want to see
>>8249775If they bring wdtroons onboard it's over
now that the dust has settled, what was the best SD1.5 /h/ model?
>>8249900>generate a cute girl swimming in pretty lake with a vista is so hard?because you clearly didn't use any of the related tags for it?even pony could do it at some degree
I will not post images until the highlights are gone. Having my superior gens displayed alongside ayakon tier slop is too much for my ego.
>>8249893I seem to remember that you needed to basically have a reference image for that right? But that limits the creativity doesn't it? Like I still want creativity, with only certain specific things having exact consistency.>>8249895Doesn't work. Resulting outputs are still unstable between seeds and depending on the prompt, camera angle, art style, etc. There's also the issue of the model not even really understanding what "wide shoulders" or "narrow shoulders" means.
>>8249910ayakon getting in every highlight is funny as fuck doe
>>8249900Laserflip girls on illu and derivatives always look oddly mannish
>>8249913>I seem to remember that you needed to basically have a reference image for that right? But that limits the creativity doesn't it? Like I still want creativity, with only certain specific things having exact consistency.You can make a 3d model with your desired proportions and use that in different poses for your cn input. Will kill creativity on the model side but is the only way to have a consistent body in different angles/poses
>>8249739Thinking with portals, nice.
>>8249738More likely it come from vector directions in the TE's embedding space.
good ways to upscale in illustrious?
>>8249928>>8249774
Damn troons just got btfo in euge discord, kohyas code was checked and it implements ztsnr + vpred the same as the "working" onesThey also tested it and the wdv shit trainer is not "the only one that implements it right" Hoooly fuck actual retarded faggots up thread who parrotted that as if it was fact, you know who you are, rope freely
>>8249902ugh, fine>>8249914>ayakon getting in every highlight is funny as fuck doeFor me it's when he thinks any legit criticism is some way of trolling him, he post some decents gens sometimes but he also post fucking slop just as often, I'm not fucking da vinki but I try to get an overall coherence on my gens which all fall apart when you zoom in, but that's another topic
>>8249915Like in his art?
>>8249930thx, any controlnet suggestions?
>>8249928img2img, remacri, 12-16 steps euler/a at 0.3 denoise. regular euler results in a cleaner image, a will try to add detail.
>>8249944Don't listen to him, use deepshrink to gen at 1.5 base res.
>>8249944never used that method myself. I imagine they use anytest. anytest AM works on illustrious from what I heard.
>>8249900I don't know anon, why AREN'T you capable of prompting something incredibly basic? Do you perhaps have a subconscious desire for ugly bastards?
>>8249951NTA but you've failed the task. She is not swimming. Swimming was a tall order for all old models. Havent tried in illustrious but there's a big chance it struggles with it.Try a handstand while you're at it. probably wont go well.
>>8249928Try to get a nice base gen (you like the pose or composition and it has mostly all the elements you are looking for), then use hires fix with those parametersIf the upscaled gen looks significantly different from the base gen, change the scheduler to PolyexponentialThen you just inpaint the weird parts
>>8249951I have a conscious desire for ugly bastards
>>8249953Making Himari go swimming or handstand would be cruel, anon. She's crippled for God's sake.
>>8249800Sink dicks are dope doe.
>>8249951we finally have SMEAr at home...
How is Astralite doing bros? He better hurry up.
I tested noob too much and now the Illustrious colors look too crazy for me. Is it terminal bros?
>>8249961SMEA doesn't make sense to me since the point is for genning at resolutions higher than the model's bucket size but I've been playing with it anyways since it gives different composition. It's funny how, given some wrangling, this model is basically just EPS NAI.
>>8249965At the end of the day, you're doing this for your own coom. Doesn't matter what people think if it makes you happy.
>>8249900But I get your point, it's some rng
>>8249964still hand captioning his 10m dataset
>>8249969Yup. It's not impossible, it's just hard. Especially hands and feet, which the other anon likely failed to notice are significantly rougher in this type of gen.
>>8249966>given some wrangling, this model is basically just EPS NAIlol
>>8249966>1girl>not even /h/this is a gen 1.5 can make btw
>>8249973I don't want to gen more than one girl, though. If I did I would have typed in 2girls. Are you retarded, perchance?
>>8249974based retard
>>8249968https://files.catbox.moe/n6r36d.png
>>8249807Guy in high heels
So from my understanding the best way to gen on illu is>Gen at 1344*1728 or some other supported sdxl resolution times 1.5 with deepshrink active.>Sampler should be euler a @ 5-7 cfg or euler a cfg++ @1.5 cfg>Inpaint>Use highres fix to upscale by a further factor of 1.3 and keep denoise low and use a non-ancestral sampler>Alternatively use controlnet and set denoise and final img size as high as you want
>>8249981Why is it so pink?
>>8249984Because Kirby's very cute
>>8249983>put on pants>take off pants>put on underwearremember the three Fs. FishFixFupscale
>>8249983>deepshrinksnakeoil
So uh, what happened to the Jordach money bros?
>>8249990You can't fix anything unless you upscale. No point inpainting @1024*1024 if you're just going to cram it back into a tiny canvas
>>8249992Pocketed
>>8249992fursuit
>>8249991>snakeoilWhy?
>>8249994This
>>8249997it's just a latent upscale wrapped up in a neat package
>>8249994NTA, but anything is a strong term. If you tried, you'd know there's some things that you can fix before upscaling, and they would take half the time. Big structural issues are better fixed at a base level.
>>8249994NTA but I think depends on what you are fixing. If you are adding some missing details sure, pointless to do it before upscale but if you are fixing anatomy error or adding something, faster to do it before upscale to make use of higher context area imo.
>>8250000Big structural issues are better fixed by rerolling
https://github.com/ilian6806/stable-diffusion-webui-stateuseful
>>8249933crazy that the minds behind the project that never took off because they weren't able to ever write a functioning training implementation aren't the best at discerning whether or not code is working correctly
>>8249994ATA. 99% of people who upscale before fixing don't go back and fix. they have no intention of ever fixing. if you genuinely upscale first and don't mind that it takes longer and more resources to fix after the fact that's fine. It's an inefficient way of going about it but it's fine to not min/max everything in life.
>>8249933screencaps?
>>8250004Again, depends. There's just no one recipe fits all, here, especially if you're willing to use GIMP / Krita / Photoshop to fix things.
>>8250008How will it take longer to fix anything?
>>8249951>>8249966how do I use SMEgmA in A1111/Forge?
>>8250015You cant :)Get comfy.
>>8250014lmao
>>82499922 more months
>>8249994>You can't fix anything unless you upscaleYou absolutely can, though.You can make changes to the lowres that will have fairly decent impact on what you get from the upscale. This is actually even going to be significantly more easy to do before upscaling than it is to do after since you can be REAL fucking vague about things and have the upscale toss in a lot more detail.
>>8249845Rindou (radical dream) has some pretty messed up stuff but I added them both to my list
>>8250019>since you can be REAL fucking vague about thingsI will even, sometimes, draw things in GIMP and blur them without bothering to inpaint before upscaling, sometimes. It works great. I'm surprised people are fighting over this.
>EPIC just confirmed he is literally in India
>>8250015Reforged has it but SMEA is kinda snakeoil.
>>8250019You can make the same changes to the upscaled image and do a denoise pass if you don't want to inpaint problem areas individually.
>>8249772>I'm also open to any other illustrious lora requests from anons hereDunno if there is already a LoRA but if not then Belko aka Lolicept.
>>8250028>you can make it twice as hard and take twice as long for no benefitincredible insight anon. wonderfully thought out. tickles my efficiency autism.
what if you made a bot that posted on twitter and called every piece of anime art ai generated, you could hook it up to a LLM for conversations with artists and a python script to have it draw red circles all over any artwork to "highlight" ai
>>8250032that sounds like a lot of work
>>8250034you could probably have GPT create all the coding
>>8250030Upscaling takes 5 seconds and you'll get a non-ant sized canvas to make your changes on. Nothing hard or inefficient about it
When you're working on, say, a hand or something with inpainting, is there a specific resolution size you should be aiming for or is it irrelevant as long as it has surrounding context?
>>8250039Depends. At least 1024*1024 and more if you're doing the masked only context trick.
>>8249391 catbox? nice hole
>>8250039I personally do square aspects but honestly can't tell you why
I'm so happy.. we are so back
>>8250039resolution has nothing to do with context. set the resolution to 1024 x 1024. context has to do with the mask. you can put a small dot or two outside of what you're painting to force it to look at more of the image.if you're using an inpaint controlnet you don't need to bother with the dots it will get all the context it needs from the controlnet.
>>8249479ashame about the background and chair, but damn nice pose. catbox?
>>8249775hdg on suicide watch
So it looks like Euge and friends are going to continue using the gpus to bake the noob model even further while preparing for the v-pred bake. I wonder how many epochs it will take for e621 exclusive styles/characters/etc to start coming through that aren't already on dan. I did some testing and it is starting to pick up some stuff, but still weak.
>>8250050>I wonder how many epochs it will take for e621 exclusive styles/characters/etc to start coming through that aren't already on dani wonder how many epochs it will take to bake in the pony sepia
>>8250053it's already washing out, give it time bwo
>putting dark-skinned male, dark skin into negs on noob gives you absolutely BLEACHED tier dicksokay that's actually kind of hilarious
>>8250056Your catbox sir
>>8250056>putting dark-skinned male, dark skin into negs on noob gives you absolutely BLEACHED tier dicksKEYED
>>8250058https://files.catbox.moe/fkbxvk.pnglora's are in appropriate directories here(these specific ones are in a 'noob' subdirectory for the artist listed(though I haven't bothered doing a normal illustrious deal360acv lora yet, oops))https://www.mediafire.com/folder/e9bd63vj786sf/slanted
>>8250056Can it do foreskins?
>>8250039you probably want to use a standard sdxl resolutionyou also need to understand how inpainting works.in painting works by adding noise to your training image, denoising it like it would any other image during inference, and then merging the denoised image with your original image along the boundary of the mask.the inpaint area setting controls whether or not your image will be stretched or cropped during inpainting. whole picture stretches your training image to the resize resolution, then denoises that image. only masked crops the image to the area immediately around your training image, then denoises that image.this means that if you want to make large changes to your image (like removing or adding fingers) then you should use whole picture and your original prompt or something similar. if you want to do things like add definition to fingernails then you should use only masked and adjust your prompt so that it matches what is in the mask area.
how do i learn this power
>>8250067Wrong technical explanation, but at least the use case is explained correctly
>>8250062lowres grids but it seems like it can so long as the dick is flaccid(fully erect it didn't really change anything in the output).gridsprompt: https://files.catbox.moe/8wijrl.pngprompt+foreskin: https://files.catbox.moe/77wa3i.png
>>8250070if that's not the right technical explanation then what is it doing
>>8250072thanks
can I schedule prompts in comfyui like a1111?like[(huge breasts:1.1)::0.2]
>>8250076nope you need an extension for thatim not jokingbreak doesnt work either
>>8250077i've literally never fucked with BREAK before, is this a way to stop getting that juicy BBC when i just want dark skinned girls?
>>8250084BREAK in Comfy is the node Conditioning (Combine)
>>8250084BREAK is kind of a meme because it doesn't really work the way people think it does, it's hard to explain, and it's hard to prove it has any demonstrable effect because CLIP isn't actually that bad at prompt attention.
>>8250084Break is a meme and only has edge use cases that most users never encounter. Try regional prompter in prompt-ex mode for your colonial ambitions.
>>8250084i found most success with clipnegpip, putting dark-skinned male in positives with negative weight
>>8250090>only has edge use cases that most users never encounter.this is literally the one place that users probably will encounter those edge cases
>>8250089why is it censored
>>8250093Censorship is based sir
>>8250092BREAK does nothing to help CLIP or the rest of the model differentiate concepts, the point is to help give longer prompts uniform attention but that can actually be detrimental and lead to a host of issues with prompt order.
>>8250092Maybe, but to my knowledge nobody here ever had a problem where break would help
>>8250096why is it so fucking blurry
>>8250095i understand how break works>>8250097i can think of several instances during early nai leak days where break was useful due to the length of schizo prompts
>>8250098We love naiblur here
>>8250095Its only use is to keep long strings like "face of the people who sank all their money into the fx \(meme\)" from having there tokens split between 2 blocks.
>>8250103that is actually an important use case I didn't think of now that I think about it
>>8250103*their btwI'm not esl, i swear
What adetailer mask blur/padding should I use
(masterpiece, very aesthetic, absurdres:1.4) 1girl, solo, sex
>>8250105why did you think that most of the time you see people actually use BREAK here it's to separate quality tags and other bullshit from the actual prompt?
>>8250093going on pixiv
>>8250111Because they are retarded? Break does nothing to separate parts of your prompt. It just fills up the current 75 token block and starts a new one.
a schizo suggestion: for wide shots, try bumping your gen dimensions up by 15-20%, and for you kohya hiresfix users, use a shrink factor a little bit smaller than the gen's upscale factor. for example here's some landscapes at 1.75x scale / 1.5x shrink, and then at 1.75x scale / 1.75x shrink. and see if you can get away with reducing the end_percent if your prompt seems pretty solid from seed to seed.and try playing with alternate resolution sizes/aspect ratios in generalsome webps comparing same seeds by resolution scale / shrink scale:https://litter.catbox.moe/3g63su.webp / https://litter.catbox.moe/1zpb5z.webphttps://litter.catbox.moe/jrs7x4.webp / https://litter.catbox.moe/zkw4cs.webphttps://litter.catbox.moe/9cidx9.webp /https://litter.catbox.moe/qel98l.webphttps://litter.catbox.moe/89fhce.webp / https://litter.catbox.moe/by58l6.webphttps://litter.catbox.moe/bmy813.webp / https://litter.catbox.moe/td59c5.webphttps://litter.catbox.moe/7yvgk5.webp / https://litter.catbox.moe/21opuc.webp
>>8250117>here's how to make your gens look like slopno thanks
>>8250118do you think 1024x1024 is a magic number?
>>8250069First, you need to become an elf girl.
>>8250120Seething gpulet, don't mind him.
>>8249543bobbox?
>>8249772Takeda hiromitsu pls
>>8249772how about hector trunnec? He's not a lewd artist, but thanks to AI, he doesn't have a say in it anymore.
I'm going to schizo all over myself
>>8250159box?
euler_smear = truedeliberate_blurriness = true
Can someone explain what settings should be used with kohya hrfix or RAUNet (which one is better)?
>had to save the combined image as a jpg quality 11 to get it under 4chinz filesize limit constraintsI hate it.here's a pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/7d5klh.png
>gen a bunch>one of them has the girl and guy's positions switched so it looks like the girl is fucking the guy (presumably with a futa penis or something)Kek.
>>8250205Illustrious filesizes are like 45% larger than what I was making with the same resolution on Pony. Not sure what that means
>>8250209more per pixel color variation/noise/whatever afaik
>>8250209generally means larger/better color depth/variation.though really I was getting hit with it because I'm doing a lot of dumb photoshop filter shit and adding filmgrain and such.
>>8250209It means pony is shit
>>8250209illustrious both has a larger color space due to not being trained by a retard and some issues with artifacting which can be cleaned up by running a 1x jpeg denoise scaler on your gens
what vae for Illustrious? sdxl_vae?
>>8250159>>8250171Ditto, one of the better Nagatoros I've seen
Why does it all look the same?
>>8250240it's pony
>>8250240get your eyes checked.
>>8250240it's nai
>>8250209Illustrious has splotchy noise all over the place, which makes images harder to compress. Jaggy edges too.
>>8250249lmao ass blasted
>>8250231XL only has one VAE
>>8250253>he doesnt know
>>8250254NAI one? not like we can get that one kek
>>8250257SDXL 0.9 and SDXL 1.0 ones.
>>8250257anonie is probably just trolling but there *are* some experimental ones from people who have tried to finetune it, they just aren't better than base. I think wdv tried to finetune the vae too with no luck getting it to work better. really curious what NAI did to improve its denoising abilities and why they're so hush about it.
new ssd came in, ready to fill it with all the upcoming shitmixesalso pixelart is pretty fun, that anon's workflow opened my eyes to the tooling for it
>>8250264>I think wdv tried to finetune the vae too[x]EXTREME DOUBTI have yet to hear of any single person attempting to actually finetune the VAE. There have been layer shifts and other shit to help prevent NaN's from the early days of XL but not a single person or group trying to actually finetune it.And there isn't a single person on WD even competent enough to know *how* to finetune the fucking VAE, much less actually do it. Hell, they probably wouldn't even know how to properly test it even if they could.
>>8250272https://civitai.com/models/707136/sdxl-vae-finetune-vae-training-scriptMultiple people have tried to finetune it, this guy wrote scripts for it. Like I said, it just seems to be very hit or miss as to whether it has a beneficial effect.
>accidentally train a lora for 6000 steps instead of 2000>it's the best versionnot like this
>>8249775how greedy can those fuckers be>give me your compute or we wont help you!funny how they are seemingly expert at everything but havent been able to produce anything relevant ever
>>8250276increase your fucking learning rates and weight decay instead of spending 3 times as long training!!!!
>>8250246donedoc says i have perfect visionwhy does it all look the same?
>>8250281Its kamala
>>8250279weight decay to what
https://mega.nz/folder/ctl1FYoK#BYlpywutnH4psbEcxsbLLgadded ireading
>>8250337so this is the power of nai...
>>8250337>her face>whatever is happening down there>bottom left, his headmy sides
>>8250337while it almost definitely wouldn't do anything I feel like adding {{{{{{moist}}}}}} would really match your prompt energy.
I need to train my pony loras again for illustrious...?
after people started using Illustrious-XL the number of posts here dropped by 90%
>>8250395>1292/222?
>>8250393>>8250395post you're shitty cat avatarfag and fuck off
>>8250399Based, I was actually thinking about do it something with her later
>Uploading files from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse. Please try again in a whilebeen good knowing you guys
>>8250392Did you make your lora learn the grain or you add it in post?
>>8250407el meow, you can always catbox tho
>>8250392catbox?
>>8250407I got that on another board it's stupid. I can post everywhere else except that one board.
>>8250409added in post.it's just a lot easier and cleaner to deal with that way.>>8250411https://files.catbox.moe/b7ppfb.png
>>8250414Mainly asked because I don't even think diffusion models CAN learn grain. It doesn't have any pattern after all, it's just noise.
>>8250407catbox the last image you posted
should i train a new artist lora or version 22 of this ishikei lora? having a tough time deciding
>>8250419Train a lora on NAI images to see what happens
catbox works I guess https://files.catbox.moe/hmrteq.png
>>8250417it "can." the deal360acv lora actually has a form of grain to it, albeit it's also a much larger patterning. You can see it manifesting a bit on the darker shades of skintone in that catbox.But the general bogstandard filmgrain stuff, even if it could, would just be pointless since it makes cleaning shit significantly harder while saving you a whole 2 seconds and like 3 or 4 clicks that it would take to just apply it in photoshop normally.
>>8250419Follow your heart (dick), it will never lie to you
>>8250314zased, one of my favorite artists. also is it just me or is it really hard to get illustrious to do cowgirl that isn't pov? this is with pov in negatives and "from above, looking up" near the front of the prompt.
>>8250426Try to give the guy some feature, faceless male, bald male etc.
>>8250423i think that's supposed to be more of a canvas effect since that guy either does pastels/colored pencils or tries to make digital art that looks like it. i've never gotten actual film grain type noise to work on a lora before
>>8250420speaking of, what ever happened to that anon who was training a lora on shutenanon's gens
>>8250430died of death. also what's the point now that you can just weight tweak (opossummachine, healthyman, wamudraws) on illustrious?
>>8250431You can? got a catbox?
>>8250426You need to get more schizo
>>8250432i was playing with his prompts on illustrious because i dig the aesthetic and you can get pretty close. obviously not 100% since no vpred and differences in model training. i even included the bicycle schizo negative for funsies.https://files.catbox.moe/rjn2r1.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/3z4eil.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dd44tl.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/8te2eu.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/2uxw48.png
>>8250435weighing healthyman will get you slightly closer to the NAI style btw because it makes the skin paler
>>8250435Works fine on noob to, nice.
We are so back
>>8250435that is indeed surprisingly close especially for such an early epoch
>>8250414Im also adding grain because it reduce the artificial feeling but you are going way higher with it than me, looks nice tho maybe I should do more
this one made me laugh. what emotion does this face convey?
>>8248072So, Update the OP or wait a bit more?
>>8250454she just pooped in the pool
>>8250454Yeah, it looks like she's taking a big ole poopy.
>>8250463>>8250464Now i'm hungry
>NAI style on local model, using inner knowledge of the model and no loraskurumuz on suicide watch
>>8250466He did ban a guy from the discord recently for praising Illustrious kek
It's unreal how creative illustrious(noob) can be, guess that's the result of not having any "aesthetic" tuning? Idk i'm retarded but it's fun to run insane schizo prompts.
>>8250468>guess that's the result of not having any "aesthetic" tuning?it does
>>8250468noob fucking sucks man it's so washed out and has 0 contrast compared to literally any other illust mix
>>8250466>NAI style on local modellol
>>8250471Idk its fine for me and comes out on top compared to the other models, it's all preference at the end of the day anyway.
>>8250467lmfao no way
>>8250471Try using PAG and upping the CFG a bit. It's not perfect but it helps.
>>8250479good for you anon but the fact that it has less contrast/more washed out is objective fact
>>8250482but why would you do that when you can just use base illustrious
>>8250481it was chinknai but yeah https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl?dialog=commentThread&commentId=557781
>>8250482That being said it's probably better for those shiny skin mixes>>8250484Oh no I agree and I use base Illus for most of my gens, just giving a way to counteract it if you wanted to use it for the genitals kek
>>8250482nah I'll just use a better mix
>>8250468its not unreal its expected from img model, you just got too used to the piece of shit that pony is which kill all creativity and you dont remember that 1.5 was the same as illus but in a more shitty way
>>8250466Really doubt they really care with V4 on the way, they dont really compete for the same market anyways
>>8250501nah illustrious is for sure unusually schizo in both good and bad ways
>>8250493I noticed this with all models I ever tried whether it's Pony based or Illust, how come prompting "fingering" is so bad like it's almost always that 3 finger pose and it looks like crap or it's even worse and like all the fingers are broken
>>8250506self fingering work perfectly fine for me on any pony variant i tested
>>8250507>self fingeringyeah maybe but that's not what I meant
>>8250504>>8250488he cares
>>8250504>they dont really compete for the same market anywayswhat? if at any point local gets a model as good as nai's they'll lose like half of their userbase instantly
>>8250506on illusXL it looked a jumbled mess when i tried it, even with adetailer.
God I want to have baby making sex with an idol
>>8250512the people with the knowhow and compute of how to run models on local are typically not the same people paying for a nai sub (there is overlap of course but i doubt it's half of their userbase). from nai's perspective i would be more worried about alternative saas services popping up (using models from local) that compete with them
>>8250515>the people with the knowhow and compute of how to run models on local are typically not the same people paying for a nai subwhat? why would you not pay for access to the best anime nsfw model?
>>8250517because you can just do everything on local and get stuff 80-90% as good and infinitely more freedom without paying a subscription? the people that want to do absolutely nothing more than type a prompt and gen nsfw already pay for nai
>>8250519>because you can just do everything on local and get stuff 80-90% as good yeah whatever you say dude
>>8250520>no argument>too retarded to understand how a business is runok lol
>>8250520we have cunny at home now (well, we always did I even caught vacations for it)
>>8250403Ultra beautiful, added to my fap folder
>>8250196Reminds me of 2000s style
He is an ADULT MALE ok just short
Why do dicks look like ftm meat sticks on illustrious? Should i just add censored, mosaic censoring to my pos prompts?
Why the fuck is noobaixl incapable of following basic fucking prompts like 1girl, portrait if you add things like this:masterpiece, best quality, ultra-detailed, amazing quality, very aesthetic, intricate details, absurdresEven though everyone on civitai uses it, and even people here seem to use quality tags.If I only use masterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic, ultra-detailed, then it works just fine for some reason. But if I add "amazing quality", it breaks.Why does the model shit itself if you use too many quality tags? Sometimes it shits itself even with a lower amount, if you put them in a different order like: "masterpiece, best quality, ultra-detailed, 1girl, portrait"Adding BREAK helps somewhat, but it's still an unstable mess.And unlike Pony, using an artstyle LoRA makes certain things unpromptable, as if LoRAs are too burnt in or something so it forgets the original dataset.The mode feels nice, when it shines, but it feels so much more unstable than Pony.
>>8250535>Should i just add censored, mosaic censoring to my pos prompts?unironically yes
Any puffy vulva loras for Illustrious yet? I NEED them extra fat and meaty.
>>8250535experiment with negatives more. adding condom of penis to negs helped with the coloring of penises (less pinkish color)
>>8250534Oh fuck yeah, sexy stuff therethanks for the catbox btw too
>>8250541>condom of peniscondom on penis*>>8250540find artists on danbooru with 100+ images that draw fat and meaty pussies and add those to your prompt
>>8250536Skill issue lil nigga
>>8250536afaik the only actual confirmed quality tags are "worst quality," "bad quality," "average quality," "good quality," "best quality," and "masterpiece"just use the latter two or three in your main prompt
>>8250543But I already have an art style I like.
I'm going to give up finding the right artist mixes in Illustrious. It's getting tiresome. Unless someone want to share list of artist mixes for NAI.
>>8250544Doesn't explain the model's inferiority when using LoRAs or it having a stroke when using certain prompts that pony handles with 0 issues
>>8250546in that case anon it's time to put a dataset together
>>8250548then just use base illustrious / smooth ft. why are you using an early fucked finetune of illus anyways?
I kinda gave up on Ilustrious as well, since the results in txt2img were really low quality
>>8250550Base is even worse lol
>>8250512exactly what >>8250515 said, a lot of nai user are gpulet,just doing it on their phone or just too dumb/dont care to figure how to use a local modellocal is literally not on the radar of Nai competition wise
>>8250552it really is a skill issue then, because i've had zero issues with using loras on illus
>>8250550>why are you using an early fucked finetune of illus anywaysBecause I hate ponyAnd sepiaand hate ponyand hate astroonliteand hate ponyDid I say I hate pony sepia yet?I hate pony
>>8250556Ok NAI user
>>8250558>i use illus>get called a nai userare you just shitposting or geniunely this retarded
>>8250559there are some "people" here so mindbroken that any mention of nai leaves them unable to think straight for hours, please understand
>>8250559You're the retard here, pretending to be a professional prompter that has 0 flaws no matter what.
>>8250557based
Love ponyReject AOM-XL slopsimple ass.
>>8250548>or it having a stroke when using certain prompts that pony handles with 0 issuesI'm genuinely curious, which prompts are you talking about? Scat maybe?
>retards think every model should be prompted like ponyamazing
>>8250566>he didn't even read my postNow that is skill issue right there, whining like a bitch that something isn't an issue simply because you say so, without even knowing what claimed issue is.
>>8250566I tried scat earlier out of curiousity. Got a little brown bear thing coming out of the girls asshole and couldn't stop laughing
>>8250567who are you quoting?
>>8250572(ces)
>>8250547https://aibooru.online/posts?page=1&tags=novelai+-metadata_request+
>>8250567I reject any model that doesn't allow me to start with score_9
>>8250584She ded, RIP
>>8250562https://files.catbox.moe/nuq0kp.pnghow retarded do you have to be to fail at a portrait
>>8250588lmao i hope you're being serious
>>8250588>added way more tags and didn't use the tags I complained about model fucking upIf you can't take 2 seconds to understand the problem, then fuck off faggot
>>8250588I like the first oneI like the last one
>>8250590i used the quality tags and the rest was just a prompt i made in 15 secondswith an x/y grid of lora’s added at 1 str. how are you fucking this up? drop a catbox because i’m genuinely curious
>>8250590NTA but to me it sounds like you want a model stiff AF as pony ngl.
>>8250597I already gave the prompts, sorry if you're too retarded to read what you're replying to.>>8250598No, I just want it to not shit itself when using certain prompts aswell as LoRAs not burning in as hard.
>>8250599Where do you retards come from?
>>8250599>no i won’t let you help me with my retardationstay filtered i guess
>>8250603You're the one who refused to actually read the original post>>8250602I'm retarded? Just because you faggots can't read?
UHOH MELTIE
>>8247829Anyone know this artist mix I'm trying to duplicate? yd might be one of them.
>>8250612(ces, gpo:1.4)
>>8245887goblinbox pls
>>8250604it's sad that there is a non zero chance this isn't a shitposter
>>8250628based and bunnypilledI've been doing some Miruko but I've not quite reached the quality I'd like yet. Here's one of the better ones, I'm sure I'll get ripped for it.
>>8250029NTA but here's my belko lorahttps://files.catbox.moe/6s34wd.safetensors
>>8250628>>8250630you may think bunnies are cute, but they eat poop
dumb question, but when training loras by default kohya shouldn't read parentheses on the captions as emphasis, right? so for example you'd leave it as "asura (asurauser)" in the captions instead of escaping it, correct?
>>8250640correct
>>8250641thanks
>>8250643Mina.
What's todays theme lads? Throatfuck thursday? Thunder thigh thursday? Theology, threatening, threesome, thick... too many options really.Also as I'm pretty dissapointed in new NAI textgen and getting off opus soon I'm thinking of getting back to making loras. Is baking on your own machine easier now on xl? Haven't done one in a year or so, can a 3060 train xl?
>>8250657edm vs vpred
>>8250657yes you can train on 12gb, not a great experience tho
What's the current meta model for local? Also did anyone ever make a junkpuyo lora for pony? I couldn't find one.
>>8250657>>8250660the good news is since it's been so long since you last trained you'll forget how fast training on nai/sd1.5 was
>>8250232Really? I think it's a very simple prompt but thank you.
>>8250666don't matter how simple the prompt is if the image is good
>>8250666Nice tiny bit of stomach you got there. Any tip of how to get that or just luck of the draw? Feels like every time I try to get a little the BMI doubles
>>8250662Illustrious. Has pretty much all hentai artists on Danbooru baked in, though I failed to find junkpuyo there, sadly
>>8250673That's the beauty of local, we can use loras.
>>8250664Is the result at least better or easier to obtain? Better guides, simpler set up, anything that will lessen the frustration of baking for hours only to produce utter garbage?
>>8250678in my experience illustrious trains about as well if not a little worse than nai. still way better than pony, but that's a low bar
>>8250673>has pretty much all hentai artistslol no. It couldn't even handle half of what I threw at it. All-in-one models are retarded
>>8250678You literally download toml from the threat, set base model, set data dirs and smash start train.Not sure if it's possible to make it even more a nobrainer
>>8250680this, wish we just stayed on pony. models just "knowing" stuff and making up shit instead of the ai artists is cringe. pony was perfect in that regard, a beautiful empty canvas.
>>8250630>Mirko
>>8250673what version/mix of illustrious?
>>8250684>shirowbased
>>8250679Probably not getting on the illustrious train until it gets a bit more figured out>>8250681Thanks, should've read the header my bad.
>>8250680>choujiroobased
>>8250671That is true. Sometimes simple is best.>>8250672>Nice tiny bit of stomach you got thereDamn, nice eye.>Any tip of how to get thatOf course! Though I'm not sure if you actually want that to be "a bit of fat" or what I originally wanted it to be - "slightly distended stomach from all the cum in her womb".>that or just luck of the draw? That was intentional. I prompted initially with "stomach bulge" but it was a bit too much, so I made i "(stomach bulge:0.5)" and you can see the result speaks for itself.>>8250686NTA, use SPO. https://civitai.com/models/811067/illustrious-xl-smoothftThat's the best one on the market right now. There's also "noobaiXL" which is another version of NAI3 wannabe but I can't speak for it's performance myself, other people have pointed out that it's lacking compared to SPO.
>>8250695boooox??
>>8250696Can't give you box because I'm using someone's half done bake and there's names in the metadata. Here's prompt, though:"gorgeous mushroom, mochirong, realistic, masterpiece \(quality\), best quality, 1girl, souryuu asuka langley, completely nude, from side, sex, all fours, top-down bottom-up, sex from behind, motion lines, pinned, head pinned down, open mouth, tongue out, half-closed eyes, 1boy, rough sex, doggy style, fucked silly, cum drip, bedroom"It's an illust based bake and it's very early on, so illust will likely do exactly the same or better.
>>8250699aw, thanks anyways. are you able to tell if the model will be released to public?
>>8250699what negatives/samplers?
>>8250700100% will be released.>>8250701My negatives are:"[:worst quality, bad quality, infant:4]"sampler was DPM++ SDE (not the Karras one). Also of interest, I'm using the latent modifier extension from forge with everything on default except fight CFG drift (which is 0.8) and CFG rescale phi ( 0.5 ). This is looking a bit too much for this model, though, so I would recommend you tone the phi down a bit. For illustrious, that combo works fine.
>>8250703wtf is that neg did you get random toddlers popping up
>>8250704Nope, but it makes the women look less thin and helpless. it's like negging loli, but way weaker and doesn't fuck colors.
>>8250703thanks
>>8250703cfg?
>>82507086. Sorry, I forgot to put it there.
>>8250709ty
>>8250583very cute cosplay
when prompting 2+ girls in an image, how do you guys avoid the girls "stacking" on one another? I'm trying to do 2 girls posing and alot of the gens their legs sort of merge or stack on top of each other.
>>8250720try (side-by-side)
Surprised how well illu can recreate my Kisaki NAI.
>>8250730box?
>>8248777no lora, it's simply illustrious
>>8250732prompting artists from the model is so fucking lazy and uncreative. gookshit has been a disaster for this place.
>>8250734kek, thank for the laugh anon, bait has never been this ridiculous
>>8250730her ass is way to bigalmost like a hag...
>>8250428Canvas is definitely possible. >>>/e/2907070I don't think it'll learn actual grain/noise though. Perhaps it could learn a static noise pattern.
>>8250738hebes with thick thighs and plump asses are god-tier doe. skinny is fine too
>>8250467It was actually a guy linking noob and saying it'll be better than NAI soon and people should just pay for runpods instead.
>>8250741>>8250466considering his disdain for foss i wouldn't be surprised if he thought that open models wouldn't catch up in a yearthey can't afford to fail v4 lol
>>8250740>thick thighs god, please no, i still have post-miqo trauma
>>8250734lol
>>8250731oi big guyhttps://files.catbox.moe/ps89is.png
>>8250748Ty!
>>8250745come on now why jump to miqote immediately
>>8250745>>8250750This is a miqote general, chuddies
>>8250750i'm not even joking about this, slop kinda spoiled hentai for me
>>8250755i wanted to call you overly sensitive but now i remember that i got my boner ruined by remembering miqo while doing thicker girl gens. guess im mindbroken too.
>>8250758no one can escape the freedom tax
so thick thighs are no longer hentai then? is that what im reading? how schizo can this place fucking get
>>8250761retard
>>8250763
>>8250764
>>8250765
https://files.catbox.moe/qehxil.png
>>8250763>>8250764>>8250765>>8250766Miqotemix carrying this hentai thread rn
>>8250766please sir, redeem the sexy leopard prints
>>8250758i made an oc for personal use with similar blunt bangs/hair over the eyes and hair flaps (which do kinda resemble cat ears), she was a completely flat loli and that was before any cat hags entered the threadmonths went by and this thread completely ruined her for me, i can't look at her the same way anymore, all i see is miqono offense to the guy kek
juicy nai bbc's...
>>8250772she still loves you...
https://files.catbox.moe/23b3v4.png
>>8250772That's gonna be a trypophobia thing where you definitely don't have it until someone points it out to you and then suddenly you're fucked for life.
>>8250771sure gimme a sec
>>8250772imagine getting ntrd by accident
>>8250775>censored?
>>8250771
>>8250773
>>8250788pure sexiness
>>8250789her racism has finally caught up to her
>>8250773>>8250789These "bbcs" are way too small
Fuck... goto p art style is really good...I'm sorry Nagisa... I love Clannad but...
>>8250793I'm sorry
>>8250797Much better
>>8250791Glad you enjoy, i've been super fond of leopard print lately as well
quality tags are soulless
>>8250740patrician taste
>>8250805it's more patrician when hebes are are lacking any curves, due to pederastia undertones
>>8250808what
Would you be erect for naoto, anon?This is, of course, in a hypothetical future where she's way older, but conserved her investigator uniform due to marketing reasons.
>>8250810This image strikes me as deeply homosexual.
>>8250811that's the point
Anyone attempt 2koma instant loss on illustrious yet?
>>8250811So, would you be erect?
>>8250812>>8250814
>>8250816>large breastsnah, tomboys must be flat and in hebe range
>>8250810Gimme the nootbox.
>>8250818Don't care, it's canon, chud
>>8250816> large breastscompare to whom, though? Asian 15 yo girls?
>>8250818>tomboys must be flat and in hebe rangeit's time to shut down /hdg/
>>8250821Large means C or D cup
>>8250730Looks more detailed than NAI version. Although for me swimsuit and pantyhose looked sexier with NAI!
>>8250822charming point of tomboys is that they look like boys, no amount of cope will change that
>>8250827no it's that they look like girls but don't care or realize
what could be the context for Marnie getting fucked by a fat otaku? a fan? duel defeat? prostitution?started genning a scene on a whim and realize I don't know where I want to go with it, I pretty much never watched/played pokemon lmao.
>>8250802Did you draw this anon???
>>8250514holy based
>>8250833obviously she lost a battle and now she has to pay up
>remember people somewhat making pony style loras compatible with Illu when it first came out by adjusting weights and prompts>import my pony mix that has a bunch of loras just to see what happens>genuinely looks decent, arguably better than it did on pony with the model differencehaving a schizo mix finally paying offstill going to resume baking so i can Theseus' ship this thing
made you look bitch comment easy scripts anon... i beg you for noobai training settings... you're my only hope...
>>8250859why do you need new settings?
>>8250859adamw8bit unet 0.0005, 2k stepsnothin beats that!
>>8250859stop using sloptunes
>>8250863sir, your te lr?
>>8250865>frying te
>>8250867>training is frying
>>8250861the settings they gave me for pony don't just werk anymore, anon...>>8250863check picrel>>8250864but noobai would be almost perfect if not for all my loras looking shiny as fuck
>>8250872>all my loras looking shiny as fuckit's chinknai
what do I prompt if I want a skinny looking girl but with big tits?I can prompt skinny, but also prompting large breasts still gives them too much meat on their bonesI've tried adding ribs to the prompt and yet they have thick thighs and wide hipsI just want a slim but busty girl
>>8250877raita
>>8250877Increase the weight?
>>8250878what's a raita?>>8250879yeah I guess I can play with the weight of skinny
>>8250880Holy shit... how old are you?
>>8250882why is it so fried?
>>8250880Zoomer translation guy who drew shuten or raikou in FGO
>>8250881>he doesn't know some obscure h artist, heh must be underage
>>8250884love hotel tag
>>8250888>Raita>ObscureYou are literally underage
>>8250882Despite Shana being one of my first anime crushes, I have zero to none attraction to her now
>>8250890I'm being hyperbolic because it's unreasonable to believe everyone should know about literally every artist that you know about
>>8250890I hate that I have to use fucking FGO to give examples of who he is, his best shit is from Valkyria chronicles
>>8250785don't like how dick looks like on noob, so added mosaic tag
>>8250891everything girl kugimiya rie has ever voiced has made me hard
>>8250897Even Kagura from Gintama?
>>8250892This is the equivalent of artist mixes and not knowing tangfangye
>>8250897that includes her performance in the fruits basket remake
>>8250898tv series version and movie version, both
>>8250903Based aru
>>8250852yeah that's what I decided to go for, just felt like her getting "defeated" by a fat retard could be too stupid. nobody cares though
>>8250885lol imagine calling someone underage for not recognizing a fucking gacha game artist
>>8250908very fresh bait
>>8250907>just felt like her getting "defeated" by a fat retard could be too stupidThat's what makes it good though. She clearly underestimated the fat retard and now the consequences are catching up to her! Makes her downfall all the more satisfying
is there some trick to not get Illu to gen super simple backgroundsI have location in prompt, and "simple background" in negs, dunno what else it would want
>>8250912illu can't do backgrounds at all unfortunately
>>8250912what kind of background you want?
>>8250912I've tried with putting stuff like (Bed, Bedroom, on bed) together and it's still come out wonky. try adding in stuff you'd see in the background of the room/place you want it in, but bear in mind it's still gonna shit itself 9/10 times
>>8250914gay>>8250915any, reallyi have it on wildcard but it just comes out to vague unshaded brush strokes behind the characters
>>8250912i saw this when scrolling earlier, maybe it's saarslop maybe nothttps://civitai.com/models/839053/better-backgrounds-for-illustriousxl
i can't decide which i like more
>>8250914background was my biggest peeve on pony and somehow illus is worse
>>8250927I dislike both, hope that help
>>8250929i think the only local sdxl model with good backgrounds i've used was tofu, but that only works for simple 1girling
>>8250927Not a criticism, and probably a dumb question, but is the right side having more pink backgrounds a sign that it's starting to have overfitting?
>>8250927Left has less fucked up hands, I guess?Also, what settings did you use?
>>8250894cringe
>>8250936probably yes
>>8250936i think so yeah. the backgrounds also go from having flowers to just kind of being weird shapes in a lot of gens but it's hard to say if that's also overfitting or just the dataset>>8250944https://litter.catbox.moe/641yz2.json022 is 0.0003 UNET LR, 023 is 0.0006. otherwise they should be identical
I can't believe the secret to making a nice looking illugen is tianglingading fang dong twice. I've been so blind the past 500 gens.https://files.catbox.moe/oien5z.png
>>8250966Schizo prompting works, more at 11
>>8250973the colors don't pop...
>>8250966>steps 10>DPM++ SDE No Brown>CFG scale 7.5nigga what
>>8250981oh no no no no
>>8250980that wasnt my proudest statement in the past. Illustrious really made me change my tune on that.
>>8250981>doesn't know about the No Brown sampler
>>8250984I need to test if illu knows hilda ware...
>>8250973>>8250984afrobull anoni happened to finish a bake of an afrobull lora, lemme know what you think if you want: https://files.catbox.moe/y2os56.safetensorsno trigger word because i'm baking loras for mixing purposes
>>8250987I'll try to see if it knows hilda.>>8250988I literly just posted mine. but ill check yours out.https://civitai.com/models/841441?modelVersionId=941392
>>8250985My elected meme sampler is DPM++ SDE CFG++
>>8250991oh LMAO
>>8250912It can do backgrounds, at least better than pony. Prompt for things like scenery and beautifully detailed background. Also, backgrounds depend on which artist/artstyle you use.
>>8250911You're right. It's just... imagine *him* winning at something.
>>8250991>I'll try to see if it knows hilda.doesn't look like it unfortunately, lora time
Grandpa here, has Euler a finally been dethroned? What should I be using in reforge w/ illustrious?
>>8250998pic unrelated?
>>8251005?that's better than pony's yellow deviantart backgrounds
>>8251004euler a, or regular euler, or smea. cfg++ is a meme. use dpm samplers if you know what you're doing
>>8251004It hasn't. Euler A is still the most well rounded and useful sampler and you only need something else if it's something very specific you need
>>8251009who cares about pony? still looks like garbage
>>8251013it looks passablewhat are you comparing it against?
>>8251002closest I could get, the earcuff/ear peircings are hard. Will most likely need a lora.
>>8251015naiv5
>>8251015nai3, any 1.5 model
Another beautiful day for schizo enjoyers
>>8251022kinoare you using a lora or how do you achieve such otherwordly gens?
>>8250029>>8250632welp I just made the lora before I saw thisi've added both belko loras to my mega so it doesn't end up being lost in the thread. they look quite similar to each other so just decide which ever one you like best
>>8251004>euler>ayou kind of make me sick. >is the very first thing invented still the best?no. this is literally never the case. >is 1.5 still the best?>is black and white tv still the best?>is horse and carriage still the best? >is spear still the best?
>>8251021>nai3generally look crappy unless you blur them with dof and blurry backgroundthey look """aesthetic""" with those then but no details >any 1.5 modelonly good for nature shit. anywhere else the coherency is awful and i'd rather have no backgrounds that that crap. pony backgrounds were awful because they were same-ish and yellow, also had some western feel to them. just completely unpleasant to look at. illustrious bgs are actually alright imo
>>8251026No lora needed, just be more schizo.
>>8251034I agree that euler a is garbage but plain jane euler is absolutely still king for lowres t2i.
>>8251036>pony backgrounds were awful because they were same-ish and yellow, also had some western feel to themare you just throwing around buzzwords or what the fuck are you talking about
>>8251005>>8251021They were asking about not producing super simple backgrounds, not sd1 level backgrounds. In that regards, illustrious is decent enough.
>>8251000he's literally me thoughand mommy says im a winner
>>8251039you're replying to the bait schizo. >>8251038idk man. every couple months I test samplers and every couple months I come up with SDE samplers run this shit.
>>8251037how does one become schizo enough to create such artcan I have a box?
>>8250029>>8251029What's the rationale for baking artists Illust already knows? Especially belko, an artist with nearly 2k works on danbooru.
>>8251034which sampler do you like? :)
>>8251045an artist having a preferable recent style when the model is likely trained on everything by themgood examples are rizdraws or mimonel
>>8251044That one is in the first link, all have metadata.https://civitai.com/posts/7725824https://civitai.com/posts/7712921
>>8251045the real question is what's the rationale for baking on an early access model? do people expect the loras to still work when the next version comes out? >>8251047>>8251043
>>8251045nta and can't speak for that particular artist but the model doesn't necessarily know all artists perfectly and you might also want to focus on really specific aspects/qualities of their art that isn't expressed in everything they do. The artist tag in model could also have weird conflicts with other artists tags that a lora might not.Also you generally want a lora on regardless for stabilizing reasons so doing one of the primary artist you want driving your output isn't exactly a bad idea.
>>8251051basedbox me
>>8251050>artist: healthymankek'd
>>8251050based, love this shit
>>8251051Flawless but the style... you know...
>>8251056It's for good luck, and I know the artist: does literally nothing but that's the beauty of schizo prompting, who the fuck cares
>>8251045NTA but some artists are very inaccurate, undercooked, or overfit on certain details. Ilustrious' inherent knowledge is excellent for mixing to make new styles. But baking a LoRA lets you get a 1:1 match with whatever subset of an artist's works you prefer.
>>8251052because this is the only version of illustrious we will ever get
>>8251052>the real question is what's the rationale for baking on an early access model?Why not?It works and lets you do things and if you already have the datasets it's just a bit of GPU time that you can probably give up overnight while you sleep.Downloading and hoarding them en masse might not be the correct approach but there's no real reason not to train lora's at all if you're actually inclined and want certain things the model can't provide otherwise.
>>8251060actually wasn't about "artist:", just funny you'd plug a cunny artist for such pics
>>8251050based thanks
If I don't make highlights this time I'm going to kill myself
>>8251051why are you genning wegs
>>8251055I'm afraid it's not gonna help you much, I hand draw then inpaint the shit out of my gens https://files.catbox.moe/55kt21.png
>>8250924well it definitely does what it advertises buti think i'll use it but just for inpainting
>>8251051>>8251037>>8251022>>8251000stop adding this noise to gens it looks like shit
>>8251063that is a harrowing thought.>>8251064anatomy and details are too far off for me to consider baking or downloading loras. I had a blast digging through artists and seeing who it knew though.
>>8251073film grain is kino
>>8251073one day in school you're gonna learn the difference between opinion and fact
>>8251073its art
>>8251073i think it's a byproduct of manually turning up the Hue due to NoobXL's lack of coloranons who do this, most art programs have noise removal please redeem
>>8251079>turning up the Huei mean saturationgay lingo
>>8251074>anatomy and details are too far offI had significantly more weird anatomy issues with pony than illustrious.Though I also immediately trained a lora and haven't used the model without one since day1. And lora's improve those sorts of things significantly.
>>8251079Noise removal is never perfect, it can and will remove detail that it mistakes for noise. Also you may make it look even more like machine-produced sloppa.
>>8251082illustrious definitely screws up anatomy more often than pony if you're prompting anything other than 1girl or 1girl, pov
>>8251079>he thinks he can teach proompters on that level something when he doesn't even understand why it looks good and thinks it's an artifact
>>8251082>>8251085yeah it's almost fully there for e, but not nearly done for h. >loras improve these sorts of things significantlyanatomy? definitely not. if that were the case animagine wouldn't be abandonware and pony wouldn't have needed to exist.
>>8251088Wizard here, I apply it on top with photoshop, I like how it looks. Maybe I should tune it down a little tho
>>8251088this! do you also happen to like aom2 aesthetic?
>>8251091>>8251095ponysloppers SEETHING
>>8251084Yeah I am using a denoising upscale and it just fucks up sweat/cum and steam
Speaking of film grain, are you prompting for it or adding it in post?
>>8251102You'll always want to add film grain in post, prompting for it can help gens have more soul though.
>>8250981What's the problem? Stuff is clearly not completely fried so CFG should be fine.
>no brown
>>8251107>What's the problem? Stuff is clearly not completely fried so CFG should be fine.Fair enough, it was just weird to see those settings
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>>8250802You have never explored worst quality, very displeasing space.
>>8250818Those are danbooru "large breasts". The meaning is clear.
>>8251045does illust know belko?i thought his art was banned from danbooru
>>8251045>Why would you bake artists that are on Danbooru>Picks one of the few artists taken down from DanbooruAnon... Did you get into the glue jar again?
>>8250782>trypophobiafuck you for reminding me about it
