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The Punch Line Edition

Previous Thread: >>8264848

>LOCAL UI
A1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>LOCAL MODELS
Pony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749
Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765 *PRE-ALPHA*

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templates
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8267483
Previous Thread Highlights:

TH_24-10-19_-hdg-_a.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/umcuxd.jpg

TH_24-10-19_-hdg-_b.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/univ2e.jpg

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>https://files.catbox.moe/3j671d.jpg
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first kys of the thread
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>>8267483
Can update the OP with:
>>8266698
>https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/pull/2115
>https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/16567
>Error: Field too long
Delete something or keep the OP as it is?
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>>8267498
it will be merged anyway
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>>8267498
>Can't update the OP with:
fixed
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>>8267486
>he put cunny in
oh shit redemption arc
highlighter is based
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>>8267486
love yourself
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>>8267498
I made those PRs. There's no reason to include them in the OP. It's confusing more than anything. Just wait until the next v-pred epoch drops and by that time all the UIs will be up-to-date already to support it.
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why is it so melting
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>>8267506
can i suck your pp?
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>>8267506
OK
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>>8267506
Also, FYI regarding reForge and the ztSNR option toggle in settings from last thread so it's not missed:
>>8267286
>>8267449
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>>8267507
It's hot.
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>>8267483
One Cat Box?
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>>8267507
Global warming
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where do you stick it
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>>8267506
Why is catbox always down?
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>>8267515
in your ass
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>>8267515
i turn 360 degrees and walk away
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>>8267516
he's not catbox website admin, he just made the scripts for 4chan
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>>8267514
why it's so ugly?
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>>8267522
are you the catbox website admin?
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how's it going today, /edg/?
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>>8267524
maybe
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What are your fav artist mixes anon? Testing some of them and I don't know how you guys find good artist mixes, when I try I fail :(
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I make like two posts a day bro relax and take your meds..
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>EPIC now harassing LAX to train SD3
what the fuck is his endgame?
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>>8267532
He wants the chinks to abandon the west and retreat to baidu
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>>8267486

>my Hachikuji and Nadeko slop tests got in but the other stuff didnt.

i guess this means i should change my style.
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>>8267532
he has to be a plant
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>>8267530
hit random keys on your keyboard and let the autofill extension give you artists.

The true schizo method.
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>>8267532
more importantly, how isn't he banned yet? are they actually saints?
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>>8267539
Like with wildcards and such? Is there a wildcard with artists from illu/noob?
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>>8267544
They keep him around as the court jester, nothing he says is taken seriously.
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>>8267532
Got screenshots? Discord doesn't let me join servers currently for whatever reason.
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>>8267547
finally, a gen that I can relate to!
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>>8267483
Last thread someone suggested that Miqo should represent /hdg/ on /h/'s divegrass team instead of Asuka.
Is that something anyone else agrees with?

We are also running a team roster poll to update the /h/ team for next year.
https://s.surveyplanet.com/b414abxw

Stream link and additional info can be found here
https://pastebin.com/ft6Wv9LJ
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>>8267542
earlier he asked if LAX was going to focus on just vpred now that the issues with frontends are fixed and when LAX replied saying no, he still wanted epred and vpred he reacted with a clueless emoji before cowardly changing it to a thumbs up
i want vpred too but god damn is EPIC a ungrateful piece of shit
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>>8267544
You could do that but I mean by using the a1111-sd-webui-tagcomplete extension. Its prob my favorite and most useful extension.
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>>8267551
>Is that something anyone else agrees with?
no, it's a shitpost
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>>8267551
>Is that something anyone else agrees with?
No one agrees to that
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>>8267552
He doesn't even have a GPU, why does he care.
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youre next
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>>8267559
Sense of belonging and importance. He wants to feel like he contributes to a cause.
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>>8267551
+1 vote for miqo
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>>8267551
nobody cares
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lol
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>>8267563
You'll never get my semen
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>>8267551
hell no lol
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>>8267551
4chan cup is where generals go to die
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My first gen. Yeah I'm something of a prodigy, I know
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>>8267563
condombox?
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>>8267567
EPIC will just spout whatever shit his schizo mind can come up with huh?
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>>8265217
>>8265293
Reforge-senpai any news about how it goes with compel?
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>>8267572
A R T
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>>8267572
Is this SD3 or something?
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>>8267572
soul
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>>8267552
I still think it's weird that he won't completely switch gears now that his main worry has been fixed but yeah, fuck jeetpic
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>>8267572
>he's not an adamW
ngmi
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>>8267572
NAI4 already? Jesus fucking christ
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>>8267575
https://litter.catbox.moe/5tqtcf.png

i cant tell if this pad conds setting does anything
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>>8267577
I was trying yesterday but was having some issues, since it is CLIP it is a bit harder since Illya in the past did some patches to make how CLIP works from Comfy into Forge. It is bugging me with intermerdiate_steps. I haven't tried today.
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Did angel publish the illu dataset with tags somewhere? Euge told me that they aren't training with quality tags and are relying on illu for that. I'd like a list of artists with their most assigned quality tags for better style replication.
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>>8267588
noob says it has quality tags in description tho
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>>8267589
>attentionwhoring pedo shitposter
yeah i wonder
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>>8267589
WTF wrong image.
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>>8267590
Just what he told me
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>>8267551
nah, hello asuka is iconic
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>>8267591
>attentionwhoring
I post an image here and there like once a month??
>pedo
All girls posted are of child bearing age.
>shitposter
True!
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>>8267587
nta but if you get it to work I will suck your dick (no homo)

also please stop adding meme snakeoil extensions as defaults, make a common extension repo separate from the base for all the fluff shit please
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>>8267593
oh interesting. thanks for sharing
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>>8267595
kill yourself
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>>8267595
>All girls posted are of child bearing age.
you're talking to an american anon, that's still pedo
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>>8267580
I downloaded the most common model after lurking a bit, pony I'm pretty sure, and just started. I have nothing configured, so it's probably something about lacking the proper tags. I'm figuring it out but it's slow going
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>>8267601
We should just take pony out of the op at this point
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>>8267592
but what's the deal with candles? it always looks like some harlequin cover
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>>8267601
Stop using pony and swap to this
https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl
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vpred is cool
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>>8267606
Nah, it's naigger snake oil. You could do everything on pony if you just used photoshop =)
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>>8267606
My cock can predict the position of your mom's V
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>>8267603
>>8267605
Ah, I didn't wanna start a war about it or anything. I lurked long enough to tell there's some mixed opinions, but since they're all free I'm just going to download every mildly popular one and try them all, I don't see a reason not to
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>>8267587
That's a very usable thing, catboxanon was trying too with forge and gave up on that for some reason, hope you could eventually port it
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>>8267609
>but since they're all free I'm just going to download every mildly popular one and try them all, I don't see a reason not to
Anon, I think you might be a bit too intelligent for this general.
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>>8267608
that's impressive anon. more power to you
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>>8267604
If there aren't any candles, some fag will say "nice rio \(blue archive\) bro, but you forgot hairclip!"
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I want to use Illustrious to help me colorize some lineart I have, but Anytest doesn't seem to want to cooperate with the model. What would be the best way to get something to work?
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>>8267616
idk maybe one of the lineart controlnets?
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>>8267616
make sure you have CN-anytest_v4-marged and not something with "pn" in the name
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Noob is very good at unconventional resolutions
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so what happened, flux was supposed to be the next big thing and then was thrown away a week later?
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>>8267619
Yup, that's what I'm using. It just seems harder to use it with Illust. Before I was able to get it to actually color inside the fucking lines, more or less.
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>>8267624
bruh at least effortpost when you try this stale shit >>8264993
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>>8267626
not everybody withers away here for entire fucking days you loser dork
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>>8267625
mistoline might work, depends on how the sketch looks. make sure it's inverted. https://huggingface.co/TheMistoAI/MistoLine/blob/main/mistoLine_fp16.safetensors
other than that you might just have to play with the strength and end guidance. neither should be set to 1 ideally.
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>>8267624
flux has no anime and no porn.
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>>8267551
nah
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>>8267632
come on now no need to make them saggers...
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noob with no character lora, no regional prompter, like 80% success rate to have all 3 without any dupes

is this something pony could do?
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>>8267486
It's possible that the attention you're receiving, even if it's negative, is fulfilling a need for interaction or validation. Some people may feel a sense of importance or engagement when they're talked about, even if it's in a negative context. However, it's essential to ask yourself why you're seeking this kind of attention and whether it aligns with your broader emotional well-being.
While you may currently feel that you enjoy or are aroused by the negativity directed at you, it's important to consider whether this could have long-term effects on your emotional or psychological health. Over time, exposure to insults, trolling, or hate speech can sometimes lead to negative self-perception or reinforce unhealthy patterns of seeking external validation through toxic interactions.
It's crucial to set boundaries for yourself, both online and offline. Engaging with spaces like 4chan, where anonymity often leads to extreme behavior, can expose you to harmful content. Even if you're currently enjoying the attention, it's important to recognize when lines are crossed and when the interactions might become harmful rather than enjoyable.
If you're finding that your enjoyment of these interactions is complicated or confusing, it might be helpful to talk to a mental health professional. They can help you unpack these feelings and explore whether they stem from deeper emotional needs or patterns of behavior. There's no harm in seeking support to better understand yourself and your reactions to these situations.
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I'm honestly kinda unimpressed by the newest noob. Seems like artist knowledge degraded a lot. Even artist that have always drawn in the same style and have plenty of images look off now.
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Anyone got some working settings for kohya hi-res fix? Every thing I mess with on it I still get 50/50 abominations. It worked before on pony but I liked using raunet more; now raunet shits the bed with illustrious and kohya hi res works but gives me issues constantly to the point of barely useable.
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>>8267636
do not question the narrative
pony bad
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>>8267632
Very based
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>>8267636
Opposite for me.
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>>8267639
Pony is bad. I'm comparing base illu against noob here, retard.
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>>8267639
true!
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>>8267634
Uogh. Hairy older lady pussy......
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>>8267636
also opposite for me. feels like my artist mixes are even closer to NAI than before. I just miss the v-pred & zsnr colors.
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>>8267634
>is this something pony could do?
The answer to this question is always going to be "no"
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>>8267636
I just do not see the point in jumping to such an early version, unless your disdain for Pony is that great. I keep trying to gaslight myself into switching to it, but I just cannot bother anymore.
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>>8267647
for reference
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>>8267636
No way, noob 0.5 is so much better than the early release
It actually got me to stop using base Illust
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Folks, we’ve got a real problem. I’m talking about this faggot Astralite—an Indian guy, big My Little Pony fan, okay? We love India, they make great food, but this Astralite guy? Total disaster. He’s out here with his model called PonyDiffusion —what a name, right? A joke, it’s a total joke. Believe me, it’s terrible.

Now listen, he took these great artists, I’m talking the best—really tremendous people—and you know what he did? He hashed them. I don’t know what kind of fancy tech mumbo jumbo that is, but it’s bad, folks. Hashing them like you’re making corned beef hash or something. It’s disgusting.

And wait for it—he lobotomized the model. That’s right, lobotomized it with sepia, GPO, CES—sounds like a shopping list of disasters. I don’t even know what GPO is, but it sounds terrible. It’s like he took a beautiful, tremendous model and just dunked it in a sepia filter. Horrible! It’s like looking at one of those old-timey movies, but worse!
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>>8267647
>>8267642
Any examples? yd and pononozo were the only ones that got better for me. nanohana, oni-noboru and horosuke seemed degraded.
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>>8267647
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>>8267653
6/10 orange man impression
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>>8267656
you're actually retarded
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What level of autism do you need to obsess over this "sepia"?
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Huh how do I upscale using controlnet again?
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>>8267637
Take the deepshrink pill
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>>8267659
You just need a set of working eyes, and preferably not colorblindness
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>>8267551
>Last thread someone suggested that Miqo should represent /hdg/ on /h/'s divegrass team instead of Asuka.
>Is that something anyone else agrees with?
No.
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>>8267662
Teach me new tech I'm all ears for snake oil.
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>>8267661
Thanks, now I have jaundice
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>>8267665
What ui are you using?
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>>8267666
Happy to help
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>>8267667
reforged, found an extension called deep shrink which I assume is what you're talking about, just installed and reloading ui
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>>8267551
make it the girl 1.5-kun posts every thread
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There were the last 1.5 users, and now we will have the last pony users....
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>>8267672
ponyslop is the new sovl
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>>8267669
reforge already has deepshrink integrated as kohya hires fix. just leave it at default settings and turn downscale factor to 1.5. then choose 1344*1728 as your base resolution
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>>8267675
Yeah I kinda figured, getting none object type iterable errors now it won't gen when I enable the extension.
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also end_percent 0.4 is good for deep shrink/kohya hires
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>>8267676
it's not compatible with cn and regional prompting
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>>8267679
Dunno I tried just using it not changing anything, didn't work. I disabled and I can gen again so I don't know if I'm getting some weird error conclifting with the deep shrink thing being turned on.
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>>8267636
same experience for me. i guess it depends on the artist but a bunch of the ones i liked on base illustrious got butchered and now i'm worried that it will only get worse in the next epochs
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>dip the moment pony comes out
>get back in the moment illustrious comes out
feels good. furries btfo
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>>8267685
sir, the current illustrious finetune includes the entirety of e621 in the dataset
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>>8267630
Thanks, this seems to be good enough to finagle.
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>>8267683
Odd. What does the error in the console read?
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>>8267686
i'm still trying to find where in my post i said the words "noob ai xl"
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>>8267688
it's a duplicate error I'm assuming with it. That being said going back to the original issue is you're saying deep shrink is already turned on in kohya hi res fix default in reforged? And my point of complaint is with settings like that I'm still getting insane body horror constantly.
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>>8267689
if you're sticking to base illustrious then you're based and correct but you're unfortunately in the minority here
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Everyone I don't like is the same person, and he specifically only posts things I don't like to annoy me because I am the main character.
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>>8267691
i don't have anything against e621 in the dataset but it's too early for me to care about nai-xl when i have no issue with illustrious's quirks
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>>8267690
>>8267688
Also potentially related I've been using this aspect ratio extension to just hold quick swaps of the ratios and their sizes, the fucking 4:3 ratio has been doing 1344x1792 which I didn't even bother to check myself which that isn't right til you mentioned 1728. It still worked for the most part with pony whether it was raunet or that but I feel very annoyed but it's funny.
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>>8267702
Deepshrink is this extension and is seperate from normal hr fix.
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Why do textfags get a sota 70b text model from nvidia while imagecels have to cope with sana 0.6b?
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>>8267707
textfags can't run anything decent without multiple 3090s, you should be grateful for being an imagefag
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>>8267586
Can you please repost?
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>>8267709
I'd gladly buy 3 more 3090s if i got the imagen equivalent of Nemotron 70B for it.
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>>8267704
Yeah that was the one I was using, dunno it could just be my loras or the slightly off ratio maybe fucking it that bad I'll have to fiddle with it some more. I liked what it was doing it just was generating so many failures it wasn't worth trying.
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>>8267704
NTA but are you sure that's how it works? i'm getting really bad gens like multiple fingers
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>>8267727
>>8267731
https://files.catbox.moe/nwgwsk.png try this catbox as a sanity check
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When will illustrous leave the alpha beta test phase again?
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>>8267737
never
it's noob or nothing
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What’s stopping you guys from just using images from certain slops artists to make your own LoRA directly instead of trying to figure out which artists mix they use? currently making one from this nigga called renbocloud on pixiv, I really like his BA stuffs
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>>8267739
I don't wanna bake when there's a chance for a good vpred model in the near future
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>>8267737
two more weeks
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>>8267737
never, just follow the progress of noob.
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>>8267736
well i was using euler a cfg++,AYS, 28 steps and 1.5 cfg scale maybe that's why i was getting multiple fingers?
>try this catbox as a sanity check
here, i don't know why it's different from your gen
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>>8267739
this is the most indian post in the past 100 threads
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>>8267710
https://litter.catbox.moe/dbbg1v.png
weird, i have it set to 1 day
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>>8267745
Looks alright. Now just gradually change settings until you find out what breaks it
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>>8267736
Now I've lost it anon.
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>>8267737
you vill use the ponyfied chink version and you vill like it
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Jordach will release a 1.5 model that DESTROYS NAI.
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>>8267737
Unironically hope angel will release them. I kinda like Illustrious more than noob bakes
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>>8267749
rip. guess you'll have to use controlnet upscales
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>>8267754
Very nice
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>>8267754
is that her sister's ghost telling you to fuck her younger sister and continue the fey line?
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>>8267757
bingo
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>>8267695
is rape allowed here? wtf?
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What extensions do you need for img2img?
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>>8267753
Angel isn't releasing shit. He's obviously working for for analtan who intentionally had him release the half baked 0.1 to divide the local community. Kurumuz is also responsible for telling LAX to use all of e621 instead of just scraping high-rated not_furry art.
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>>8267755
Realized I had skimmed cfg + freeu on but they didn't help since I got the same basic image. Out of curiosity what is your CFG Denoiser Type in settings? I'm trying to figure out how mine is so fucked from yours and the other anon's now.
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>>8267760
nigga please
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>>8265209
Why do images I like always lead to the biggest jeetprompt catboxes? Do I have bad taste?
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>>8267765
GIWTWM
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>>8267486
highlight-kun daisuki!!!
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>>8267763
New forge doesn't have that setting, but the same deepshrink settings worked for me when testing vpred on reforge and I had it set to reforge then.
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>>8267767
No, you're just getting outskilled at prompting by schizos. The latents speak to them.
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How exactly do I run noob again?
Do I need reforge or the dev A1111? And any other settings to change in the web UI settings?
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>>8267771
Shit pisses me off I don't want to install a fresh copy but I might cause something just has to be fucked in my files somewhere. Is Forged useable yet since I remember his last update when he updated it was "don't use this this is for me" or something to that effect
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>>8267636
seems to mostly depend on the artists and characters you frequent, some got better while others suffered
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My gens on Illustrious come out really wobbly.
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>>8267773
incredibly based pic
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>>8267772
What kind of psychedelic do I have to take for quality tags like this to appear in my dreams?
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>>8267775
Anons discover that training a model causes changes, more news at 11.
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choosing kohakuslop as a base model was a mistake
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>>8267778
>2024, 2023
kekaroo
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>>8267776
artist issue
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The lora situation HAS to change. Now that local is advancing at a proper rate of development, new tech needs to be devised to keep up. Illust has received a fraction of the loras pony has, which is still a fraction of the amount that 1.5 had. Many unique concepts that aren't properly represented by booru tags. And now we're already at noob which is shitting out new versions every week.
What can be done to address this?
How can a lora ecosystem be sustained while we undergo rapid model developing?
Even updating mods to the latest version of a game takes less effort than this. Loras all have to be retrained and the final file does not contain the settings nor dataset. I wonder if it might be possible to package settings/data in with the .safetensors in a way that can easily be removed by those who don't want it. There seems to be no clear way to avoid having to rebake for massive model shifts (pony->illust, illust->noob-vpred) but the normalization of data releasing could help quickly adapt to new models.
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>>8267774
New forge is stable but you'll have to use obscure forks for some extensions
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>>8267767
not to mention the style mostly stems from a lora baked for pony lol
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>>8267778
Like 2/3rds of those are real Danbooru tags, I expected much worse. The only really questionable ones are like "ultra-detailed" and the year tags since Illu used ones closer to "recent, most recent, old" instead.
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>>8267784
if there were some way to convert loras between models that would help immensely. Failing that just speed improvements would help a lot
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>>8267784
I'm not wasting my time until we have a 1.0 model. I possibly killed a GPU earlier this year because of all of the training I did on it, so I don' see a reason to train right now because the very next day we may have another version of Noob or something.
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>>8267786
Is it worth swapping from reForge? Only extensions I really use are dynamic prompts for wildcards and autocomplete.
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>>8267784
Kill yourself beggar
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>>8267791
Only if you want to use flux or the new inpaint ui
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>>8267776
Not at home so I can't check but I think this is caused by using AYS. Try SGM uni or normal scheduler and see if it helps at all
I had similar and I think this is what I did to help it, sorry if it doesn't though
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>>8267754
>she's behind me, isn't she?
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>>8267768
The guy...right?
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>>8267788
>double masterpiece
>2023, 2024, 1990s style
>watercolor, graphite \(medium\)
Idk chief
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i'm catching up with the last week of threads, we have vpred on reforge now looks like? which branch? do i need a new model or not and if so which ones work?
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>>8267786
I wish the basic image browser extension supported latest Gradio, I really don't like how many clicks infinite image browsing takes and I frequently switch between desktop and mobile. Only thing stopping me from using base Forge over reforge desu.
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nvm >>8262778 had it
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>>8267793
i have baked 20+ illustrious styles for 6000+ steps each and have yet to release a single one. cope
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>>8267802
good, keep your dogshit loras to yourself
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For the new version of noob, euler a with sgm uniform at 28 steps (5 CFG) seems to be good enough now
What are you guys using?
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>>8267806
same as i did on illust, euler a cfg++, 1.5 cfg, sgm_uni
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>>8267807
ah, just noticed the extra thumb. well whatever
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Based /aco/ spammer
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>>8267817
is the /aco/ spammer in the room with us right now??
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>>8267818
yeah:
>>8267816
>>8267815
>>8267814
>>8267813
>>8267812
>>8267810
>>8267818 (You)
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what triggered the schizo this time?
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>>8267811
lurk for 3 weeks before posting again
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vpred is cool and all but the extra training data they added in noob totally nuked the base style knowledge
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>>8267819
none of those are me
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>>8267822
literally who the fuck cares about base style though you're always using artist tags. only issue i would say is not using source:danbooru and source:e621 tags
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>>8267822
>worse bakers make a good model worse
wow!
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>>8267822
noob dataset is garbage. the model is quite literally a 'throw more compute at it' and hope the training sorts everything out
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>>8267794
Eh not really, I'm actually getting more upset by how this aspect ratio thing is just fucking wrong. I'm laughing cause its right on everything else since I double checked, it just thinks for whatever reason 1152x1.5 = 1792. I went digging in the files and I can't find anywhere where it actually does hte maffs; it's just annoying and wild everything else is correct but that.
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>>8267806
dpm++ 3m sde cfg++, 30 steps, 1.6 cfg (iirc comfy's CFG scale is different from 1111's), last step euler A cfg++
and deep shrink 0.4 end_percent, 1.5 scale
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>>8267784
>Now that local is advancing at a proper rate of development
no it fucking isn't lmfao
we're still using SDXL as base, that thing is so fucking shit, poorly trained and outdated you wouldn't believe it
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>>8267829
oh, and AYS
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>>8267783
holy fuck, incredibly based!
thanks for the metadata
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>>8267829
Gotta figure out where to get dpm++ 3m sde cfg++ I guess I only got the 2 version in reForge.
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>>8267830
look, just getting over the pony hill is major progress
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>>8267825
i am talking about artist styles. i put in an artist with 1.3k images and a very distinct style (namori), and it comes out looking NOTHING like it
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>>8267739
slop in slop out
also there is a new model every week i aint baking shit till things stabilize
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>>8267827
>noob dataset is garbage
It's the furryshit that makes it garbage. The danbooru part is the same as illu
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>>8267765
crazy how you have been prompting for hairy guy during all of pony but only now is the guy actually hairy
good stuff as always
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>>8267829
>dpm++ 3m sde cfg++
I was using that too but forge doesn't have them, I may end switching back to reforge
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>>8267830
name the alternatives faggot? overbloated untrainable distilled flux?? garbage pixart/sana with their overly compressed bullshit? cascade? retards like you cried about SAI for months and now that they're gone you're left with nothing but trash model and more complaints.
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>the longer the sampler name the better the gen
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>>8267827
it's working, 0.5 mogs every other service on the internet for illustrated smut
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>>8267844
who are you quoting?
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>>8267843
We'll frankenstein together the sana text encoder with auraflow and a 16ch vae
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>>8267819
Maybe get your eyes checked? Looks very hentai (Japanese for "perverted") to me.
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>>8267844
yes
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>>8267836
or it was just an issue with the prompt or some shit? anyway it does look worse regardless
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>>8267848
>>8267844
ddim eulera doble cfgia+++ 3dm std+ quatro soon brothers.
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>>8267847
It's ugly. The furryshit is seeping in everywhere. We don't even have tags like source_furry to contain it.
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>>8267847
it's not even as good as base illustrious (and angel agrees)
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>for some reason hand adetailer decides to shit the bed with colours again
huh
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>>8267843
no i don't have any alternatives since i already know the other architectures/models are even worse than SDXL, and it's true, we took the biggest L the moment SAI stopped being foss and now local future seems completely fucked without a single spark of hope
saas, with the use of their clusters along with their competent research teams, will never stop getting better and better while local will stagnate or develop at a very slow rate
it's just a matter of time for the gap between local and saas gets so incredibly big it makes local be seen like a fucking ant vs an elephant
it's so fucking over
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>>8267841
A bit embarrassing someone picked up on that but yeah especially pubic hair comes out way better on Illustrious. Been nice getting more than just a few squiggly lines on the legs.
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>tfw inpaint schizo
>realize i can just gen bigger images with "multiple views" to get multiple rolls for a pose per gen and just crop any winners when i go to inpaint
i think i needed this half a year ago
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https://litter.catbox.moe/do9qt0.jpg
Giantess with average sized demi-human male.
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>>8267867
>average sized demi-human male
hey that's me
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>>8267855
Okay but what are you going to DO about it?
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>>8267871
use base illu
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>>8267859
well for what it's worth LAX has stated he would be willing to train on an updated version of Hunyuan if it gets released, as he feels the current version isn't good enough. i also messaged him about the same thing (expanding beyond sdxl) and he said he's willing to consider more models in the future. but really local base models are incredibly far behind as they all choose to download midjourney datasets and run them through shitty llava vlm. this is especially true for chinese models which doesn't give me hope
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>>8267873
based!
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>>8267860

cbox?
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>>8267855
skill issue, simple as

>>8267857
you cannot use base illustrious and even 1st version noob for more than 15 minutes each and think this. and noob 0.5 is obviously superior at everything
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>>8267860
Ah I just saw how messed up the adetailer box is now that I uploaded. Shoot.
>>8267876
https://litter.catbox.moe/b72wuk.png
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>>8267877
You're talking to jeets, it's not worth it.
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>>8267877
By all means, keep using noob, but you're delusional if you think that there is a single image on e621 that would improve the aesthetics of illu.
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>>8267877
>obviously superior at everything
Prove.
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on track to make $1k this month for the first time on patreon. legit had no idea it was this fucking easy lads.
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>>8267874
its actually incredible how smart enough people to design the architectures and code it all are so incredibly retarded
but i guess training on midjourney is easy to then claim their +3% improvements for their research funds grift and pad their gay ass resumes without actually putting any work in or risking anything to ACTUALLY improve the current situation
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what is the point of the "furry is totally seeping into anime prompting guys trust me!" trolling? I was prompting /d/ stuff which dipped into e621 tags for more specific fetish material and there was no noticeable style bleed. if you x/y noob 0.5 and illust using only danbooru tags there's hardly any difference in style unless you're using ones that got better by the extended training. in which case... they got better.
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>>8267521
Catbox?
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>>8267883
see, thats the power of using [insert_model_you_seethe_at]
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>>8267883
drop your twitter broski
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>>8267881
having more tags to work with is reason enough
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>>8267867
>littler
>jpg
I guess you aren't posting box
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>>8267885
question, is noob 0.5 already better at doing hyper than pony? i'm at work so i can't test it right now
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>>8267885
Yeah I have no idea what these people are talking about, it has to be bait or they're genuinely retarded.
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>>8267883
I wish there was a patreon for hardcore stuff.
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>>8267882
https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl?modelVersionId=968495
https://civitai.com/models/795765/illustrious-xl

which one has better output?
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>>8267885
>>8267890
It's alright if you don't see it. No point in arguing then. Same as having the color argument with the zoot guy. Maybe we should link some free college art courses in the op
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>>8267881
it shouldn't change the aesthetics at all.
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>>8267883
how many pics you upload daily? Also, post your page, I may follow
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>spend half a year bitching about how terrible and ugly pony is
>finally a good anime model comes along
>immediately abandon it for the pony-lite version
roru
rumao
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>>8267896
Post an example.
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>>8267895
>doesnt prove his claim
i accept your concession
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>>8267883
sad I can't open a patreon because the only thing i gen is cunny, maybe a fanbox would work?
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>>8267894
literally just subscribestar I think a lot of people use it as an alternative
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>>8267903
I'm pretty sure subscribstar lets you do that (maybe)
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>>8267885
nobody is stopping you from enjoying your sloppa my blind friend
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ive gotten millions of catbox requests from my noob gens btw
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>>8267904
>s*bscribestar
It's 50/50, they either accept you or they don't. It didn't work for me.
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>>8267900
the "people" using noob are the same "people" that saw no problem with using pony before
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>>8267891
What box?
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>>8267902
there's tons of images in each gallery, that's as proof as it gets
base illustrious has very unstable composition especially if limbs start to get entangled, vastly worse finger gacha, and artifacts
smoothFT was a straight upgrade but not much of one
noob 1st version had some color issues but made a ton of progress on composition, fingers and gen quality
0.5 has resolved the color issues and made further progress on stability and fingers
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My model > your model
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https://civitai.com/user/Ligmanese/images
All noob
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we're slowly reaching the point where ai art on twitter is actually getting a ton of traction and people can't tell it's actually ai art until somebody posts some long analysis of it.
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>>8267916
>this is the schizoposter
never post here again
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>>8267917
It's NAI
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>>8267916
>scrolls all the way to the bottom
>a bunch of autistmmix images
Um...anon????
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>>8267917
proof?
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>>8267915
How much are you paid to be this retarded
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>>8267920
>noobshills are ponysloppers
shocking
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>>8267920
autism mix was 3 years ago anon, everyone was using it
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>>8267910
You see no problem with Illustrious?
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>>8267925
So just because your friends are using it means that you think it's okay to use it? I can't believe this.
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>>8267925
>autism mix was 3 years ago anon
Um, anon
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>>8267923
I'm sure you wish you could get paid for that, Rajesh
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>>8267927
it was a different time, standards were lower, schizophrenia was worse
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>>8267917
>see nice image
>go to account
>read runes
>if no proof yet check media
>several high quality images a day
>no food
>no gacha pulls
Blocked.
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>>8267926
There are no problems sir!
... other than the anatomy completely falling apart with any complex gens, horrific artifacting, terrible genitals, etc, etc....
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>>8267932
>no food
this is the big one. if they dont post food more than art then they're not a real artist
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>>8267795
Thanks, I didn't suspect the scheduler would have such a negative effect, especially when it looks nice in other circumstances.
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>>8267605
What's better about this compared to pony?
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>>8267926
every problem illustrious has is a even worse with noob, and noob has more problems in addition to those
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>>8267919
I think this plus the fact smoothbrains realized that they can do more than just base stable diffusion gens with no lora's or artist styles applied
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>>8267938
Ok now the bait isn't believable, you need to try harder.
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>>8267612
Catbox?
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>>8267937
less homogenous style, better composition
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>>8267940
whatever you say rasheed
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What model has the blackest groids?
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>>8267949
it's nai
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>>8267936
Some schedulers just don't work with certain samplers. The current ui design is questionable and should just gray out incompatible schedulers.
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is there a danbooru autocompleter for comfy?
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>>8267953
https://github.com/pythongosssss/ComfyUI-Custom-Scripts is what I use
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>>8267958
ty
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If a character LoRA I made makes everything look smudgy, what could be the issue? Too much training?
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>>8267959
the included tag list is fucking old though so I use anon's from here >>8265564
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>>8267961
b-b-based
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aee aee ae lob little gurls they make me feel so oh uh ah oh yes fuck yeah just like that darling youre so cute and sexy
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>>8267949
noob vpred
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if I recognize an artist from your gen it is cheap plagiarizm
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Hey /hdg/ sorry to bother but I have to RMA my GPU and last time that took like a month so I'm thinking of paying for a month of NAI to fill the gap. Unfortunately it seems like a free account won't let you test image gens.

Does anyone in the thread use NAI? What are the limitations to it compared to local gens?
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>>8267976
but thats what all gens are
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>>8267977
go to aibooru
look at nai gens vs local gens
arrive at your own conclusion

laziest bait.
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>>8267977
>What are the limitations to it compared to local gens?
No precise artist imitation, no precise posing, no precise prompt adherence. It makes nice images but takes a lot of liberty which is sometimes frustrating. Also no recent characters or styles
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>>8267961
huge foreheads on little girls are hot as fuck for some reason

>>8267962
added aliases from the original CSV file for my ESL friends. I might have fucked up something so make a backup just in case. https://files.catbox.moe/9z7iib.csv
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>>8267982
i think Nai implemented some kind of controlnet, but yeah, no Lora freaking suxx
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>>8267980
Actually did not know there was a tag specifically for NAI on aibooru, so that post was actually legitimately helpful thanks.

>>8267982
That's the kind of thing I was afraid of. I've seen people use "vibe transfer" to try to replicate styles and such though.

Trying to figure out if it would be worth $35 for unlimited gens for a month. Maybe if I could run a script to keep gens going overnight? I'm in the NAI website interface now and it doesn't look like there's a way to gen forever.
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>>8267983
>CSV
I forgot to thank you for it in the previous thread so I'll do it now, thank you anon
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>>8267986
there's an API for external tooling
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>>8267982
inpainting is shit on nai, actually fucking awful
infill is good, but only if you want 100% rerolled areas
some artists are plain wrong
you pay for a lot of features like director tools, fast lane image gen el mayo
some tokens will just randomly drop if your prompt gets too long
prompt weighting is super fucking terrible, use Metachs webui addon
limited by resolution unless you pay (1024x1024 and equivalent res)
some concepts just don't work no matter how you guide it
stronger colors and luminosity contrast which is nice
many characters just don't exist on nai
some gens just time out, some gens take forever
if your internet is down no waifus, they often have outages
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>>8267977
The limitations are whatever interests you that has a low amount of images on Danbooru. You want a 100 image artist? Better know how to approximate him from five others. Some concepts are hard to get right as well. Once you gen for a couple of days you'll start seeing the cracks.
Pros: It just werks. Very fast compared to my card. Anywhere and on anything. No startup.
Cons: 25$. No loras. Dangerous for those with gambling addictions. Can't do realistic if you care about that.
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>>8267982
>What are the limitations to it compared to local gens?
>No precise artist imitation, no precise posing, no precise prompt adherence.
literally what are you on about?
no precise posing i get if you're a promptlet but precise poses haven't been a thing since 1.5 openpose controlnet
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>>8267995
>but precise poses haven't been a thing since 1.5 openpose controlnet
xinsir is all 1.5 openpose was and more
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>>8267988
I'm not that anon. I just added aliases. You still need to thank him if you see him again
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>none of them have ever used nai because they can't afford it so they just make shit up
absolutely dire
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>>8267986
You will hit a rate limit and will not be able to generate anymore. They literally can't afford you running "generate forever" script. So be aware of that before subbing.
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>>8268000
trips of truth
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>>8267986
Someone got banned for making a genning script so I'd hold off on getting NAI if that matters to you. IIRC the guy had several tabs of NAI open and was non-stop genning
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>>8267999
Welp, thanks for the aliases then even though I'm just gonna stick with the original csv myself
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>>8267986
>Trying to figure out if it would be worth $35 for unlimited gens for a month. Maybe if I could run a script to keep gens going overnight? I'm in the NAI website interface now and it doesn't look like there's a way to gen forever.
I was generating loads of images back to back for Dataset purposes on NAI for a while. I would typically get rate limited after about an hour or 2. I would stop genning for a bit and then I would get another hour or two before being rate limited again.
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does anyone have a prompt for dildos really deep in the pussy without it hanging most of the way out? prompt editing can only do so much
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>>8268005
>>8268003
>>8268001
>>8267994
>>8267989
Thanks a lot for the info, really appreciate it! $25 isn't a lot for a month so it seems like it might be worth trying but I'd really want to get the absolutely most out of it that I can.

>>8268005
If it's not too much trouble, can I ask for the script you used? I'd want to try testing how frequent gens need to be to get rate limited and then try setting it a bit slower than that to just let it run overnight.
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>>8267986
>>8268001
what kind of mouthbreathing mongoloid leaves his pc on to gen non-stop overnight? what in the actual fuck is wrong with you?
you can get unlimited gens by setting a sensible timeout period in the autogen extension or the nai api extension in auto, you don't need it to gen something new 2 femtoseconds after it's done, that's how you get limited and rightfully so
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>>8268009
>I'd really want to get the absolutely most out of it that I can.
My advice would be start building a collection of prompts beforehand. Searching through boorus for NAI images and having a starting point for artist mixes you like is way better than spending the first couple days of your sub just trying to get a single image you are happy with
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when are we getting a retrain with no comic shit? It's fucking tiresome
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>>8268013
switch to noob or suffer in silence
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>>8268009
>I'd really want to get the absolutely most out of it that I can.
>you don't get it, I NEED it to generate slop 24/7
Fucking Christ dude, do you stick your tongue inside the ketchup packets when you order fries?
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>>8268010
>autogen extension or the nai api extension in auto

I'm looking at the swagger page for the NAI API now and there's nothing there about autogenning or genning on a timer. Searching for "NovelAI autogen extension" isn't coming up with anything. Do you have a link to what you're talking about?
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Just installed vpred 0.5, any boxes to get the main prompt template guide?
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>>8268009
https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api
It isn't a script, but just an extension meant for A111 or whatever.
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>>8268017
>vpred 0.5
i fucking wish. vpred is a small dataset test bake. eps 0.5 is the 14 epoch main bake. just check the civit example images for one that's decent
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Guys the robot won't stop giving my femboys huge tits
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https://files.catbox.moe/93akbe.jpg
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>>8268019
Thank you kindly! That looks like it's very helpful. If I'm understanding correctly since it converts the inputs in the A1111 UI to be API calls to NAI that would mean using A1111's batch or gen forever would work, right?
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>>8268023
Illu would never
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Did anything new happen since illu dropped?
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>>8268026
Illu finetunes (shitmixes) dropped.
Try mine btw
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>>8268026
i learned how to make chicken alfredo
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>>8268024
I wouldn't try batch since I don't think it works and if it did work then it would be a quick way to get rate limited since you would be making multiple requests at once. NAI seems fine if you are just making a single request at a time so generate forever would be the way to go.
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>>8268030
american spotted
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>>8267498
>>8267511
reForge updated so ztSNR option works now. This means no need to use the advanced model sampling script/extension if you use the patched model (link in quoted post below). https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/pull/149
The next release of the v-pred model will include it, but again here's my notes and a download link for the patched model of the current release with the key to indicate it's v-pred. >>8266731
With this, the latest version of all UIs (A1111/Forge/reForge/Comfy) will now all automatically enable v-pred when applicable. ztSNR doesn't get automatically enabled but that's not a huge concern imo. If it becomes one it can be addressed later, but it's at least straightforward to enable and forgetting to doesn't cause the model to break. Can get a better idea of what it's doing here: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/14145#issuecomment-1837217705
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>>8268030
Good job, anon
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which has better database danbooru or gelbooru?
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i find interesting genning poses in illu, then highres fix them at 0.6 with a pony model in one go
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>>8268026
couple finetunes, e621 bake (noob) that had sepia on the very first released epoch but looks ok-ish now, nothing too exciting
vpred conversion soonTM
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>>8268032
You're awesome anon! I'll probably give this a shot. Anything I can do for you in return? I could try genning whatever you want.
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>>8268036
unironically gelbooru, danbooru is on its way sancuckdom
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>>8268023
>>8267813
>>8267586
nice gens
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>>8268040
I'm good. I'm just happy to help someone out since I don't think many people even realize that the API extension even exists anymore.
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>>8268045
The world could use more people like you anon! Thanks again, and best of luck with all your gens!
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>>8268054
This is an anti-pedophilia general. We do not tolerate your kind here.
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>>8268055
the economy for Foxgirls or fox adjacent species is particularly harsh, and the gig economy is one of few remaining career options when these poor souls are inevitably rejected from adventuring parties for their insurmountable trickster urges.
Because they can take a beating without complaint, they make excellent onaholes.
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Is it possible to merge SDXL models with 8GB VRAM?
The script keeps crashing on me before finishing.
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Why are there so few LORAS coming out of Illustrious-xl?
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>>8268060
Don't worry, someone with 8gb of vram wouldn't have the knowledge to make any worthwhile merges anyway.
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>>8268061
Everyone is holding off on baking because of how fast noob is developing. Wait a few weeks or however long it takes for their "final" v-pred checkpoint and than we'll see lots of baking.
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>>8268061
>no civitai dedicated tag
>can't do 3DPD
>model page says "0.1"
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>>8268060
probably not
try forge/reforge
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>>8268054
T-TENMA?!
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>>8268034
Thanks, but is there any reason of using vpred without ztsnr? Several threads before some anon was explaining about those and he wrote that vpred was some kind of way to help achieve ztsnr or something like that
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>>8268073
yes
https://files.catbox.moe/udolmb.jpg
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>>8268057
artist tags?
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Bros is there a way to upscale with low vram like 6gb? Im trying multidiffusion but keep getting out of memory errors :(
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>>8268061
because loras are outdated tech designed as a stopgap during stagnation back when the nai leak lasted for over a year. nobody wants to train for v0.1 of a model only for v0.2 to come out, and then noob 0.1 to come out, and then noob 0.5 and then noob vpred.
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Anyone tried making a LoRA of zeon_(zzeeonn)'s style?
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>>8268067
Just by not having a dedicated civic tag, you can see that almost no one cares about Illustrious-xl, unfortunately.
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>>8268082
many exist for PDXL, lora land for illu is > noobai but both haven't had remotely enough time to even begin.
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>>8268074
>is there any reason of using vpred without ztsnr?
Unless the model wasn't trained with ztsnr, then no. It should always be used. It's like forgetting to set clip skip = 2 during the SD1.5 days.
I'd like to try getting ztsnr automatically enabled but none of the UIs support that currently, unlike this v-pred change where ComfyUI supported it, and since that backend is used by almost everything now, by proxy all other UIs supported it, it just needed a bit of tweaking to get it enabled.
My concern is if I added a key to auto enable ztsnr, it could break the model from loading at all in some more obscure UIs (the function that normally checks the keys in a state_dict is very strict). I guess I could just say fuck it and implement the check in the 3 repos I have push access to (A1111/Forge/reForge) and hope other UIs will follow, but I don't know how that would pan out. Guess I'm just worried about my decision causing a bad ripple effect.
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>>8268078
https://files.catbox.moe/s4b1fe.png
lora's:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/vzrfyc6lrlb4n75/
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bfq4v9pbtcnwerj/
arako o is trained on noob0.5, deal360acv is trained on the first revision of noob.
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what exactly does automatic scheduling do? is it just an rng flip?
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>>8268083
Civit should support a model hierarchy so instead of saying "Base Model: SDXL 1.0" it would instead link back to illust which would link back to SDXL. this shitty ui needs to be replaced
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>>8268084
gotcha, thanks
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Explain vpred to me. Why should I care? Do I need anything special to make use of it?
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>>8268094
fuck you
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if you need to ask you dont need to care. ignorance is bliss in mumbai
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>>8268095
Ok, will you pretend to be a woman or should I?
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I CAN'T VPRED
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Look at my cute and spooky wife
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>>8268101
finally, some good fucking gens
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andddd just like that the empire of dirt crumbles. we really weren't even close bros...
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>>8268085
>My concern is if I added a key to auto enable ztsnr, it could break the model from loading at all in some more obscure UIs
Ain't you already added 'vpred' key to the fixed model you uploaded?
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>>8268083
Even models vastly more popular than pony never got their own category since they weren't fried as fuck and sdxl base loras worked on them.
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why is it so pedophile?
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>>8268107
it's anime
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>>8268104
Yes, but that's something that's existed for over a year due to comfyanon, so UIs would have caught up with that by now. https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI/blame/7390ff3b1ec2e15017ba4a52d6eaabc4aa4636e3/comfy/model_base.py#L250
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>>8267601
Okay, it's starting to look at least more real, though obviously I'm still not doing something right
This is where I start filling the prompt with a bunch of high quality tags and negative prompt with negative quality tags?
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>>8268109
Well, now that I think about it, guess the irony is that they never did.
I'll probably draft up a PR for all 3 repos for ztsnr auto-enabling and just let L-A-X know.
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>>8268101
best poster itt
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>>8268115
why is it so good?
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>>8268119
it's vpred
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>pedo hours
So tiresome
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>>8268101
do you ever prompt anything that's not your wife?
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What do you gentleman think of the new 0.5 noobai? I found that I have a harder time getting style mixes to look any good, but the anatomy is better. Thinking of sticking to vpred and early ver
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it was made with care by a loving prompter on a model crafted by a passionate and talented team
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Why is it so quantized?
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>>8268101
based based based. glad you're back shutenanon
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>>8268101
had a nice encounter with your wife earlier >>8267769
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>>8268124
Sometimes for fun or for requests as well, dont have anything that isnt a repost right now though
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>>8268132
based
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What happened to that luckystar poster? Wasn't he supposed to be the thread schizo endboss?
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>>8268125
i think youll like it better if you keep tinkering with style
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Can I ask a very basic question?
On the A1111 webui, what does the 0/75 above the prompt space mean? I assumed it was prompt character size, but then it updates to X/150 or X/300 when I type too much
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Anybody had any luck genning rusty trombone on illu? I'm getting the guy doing the rimjob instead of the girl. Guess this is Lora territory
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>>8268137
iirc token limit before the prompt gets broken up into smaller chunks
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>>8268137
That would take a very long explanation and I don't feel like it
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Hentai. For adults. With adults.
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>>8268150
Why are they so black?
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>>8268137
Originally Stable Diffusion was trained with and limited to 75 tokens. Then a workaround was found that allowed unlimited token support by processing them in batches of 75. So that's the token counter, it counts up to 75 and then starts the next batch so goes up to 150, then 225, then 300, etc.

You can force the start of a new batch of tokens with the keyword BREAK.

99% of the time it doesn't matter and you can type whatever prompt you want. However, technically the AI processes the prompt left to right in those batches of 75 tokens which means early tokens can have more effect than later tokens. So theoretically you should put the most important part of the prompt first so it will be the first token in the first batch, and token 76 might have more impact than token 75 since that's the start of a new batch instead of the end of one.

But again, the vast majority of the time the effect is so minimal nobody would notice anyway.
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>>8267941
https://files.catbox.moe/jg81w8.png
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>>8268151
male humans turn black upon reaching maturity
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>>8268124
your wife is very cute and lewd anon
https://litter.catbox.moe/iw5efb.png
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>>8268150
>black dicks with red heads
I hate it
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>>8268158
based
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>>8268135
he killed himself and he was the stage 1 midboss at best
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>>8268158
meant for >>8268101
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>>8268155
Thanks.
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>genning large images with "multiple views" in order to cast a wide net for a pose to crop and inpaint
>keeps giving me cute standing poses i can fix in 3 seconds
the hentai loses its grasp
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>>8268158
sovlless slop
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Pedos, blackedcucks and /aco/sloppers have to leave this thread
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>>8268156
>humans
kek, good one
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>>8268161
The contrast makes it look better. Having it all black looks like shit.
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>>8268169
/aco/sloppers own this thread mr newfag
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>>8268135
he wasn't doing anything other than being annoyed by mods being fags and lamenting that models worth anything couldn't do luckystar characters.
most of the shitposting that they were getting "blamed" for(and all the shitposting doing the blaming) was all the cathag fag.
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>>8268167
specify what should appear in those other poses like ass, panties, posture, etc.
also weight up (multiple views:1.2)
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>>8268174
Can we get a schizo tier list?
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>>8268174
Got any more interesting schizo theories?
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>>8268154
Much appreciated, that explanation helps. I'll keep it in mind and keep tinkering away, see if I can't get this to work
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>>8268174
>avatarfags are always the most insufferable people in any general
many such cases! reminder that the only reason they do it is because they want to namefag without getting ostracized for namefagging
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>>8268174
cathag being the final boss of the thread schizos is a falseflag perpetuated by the real schizo pulling the strings
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>>8268181
Feel free to ask if you have any other questions, I had to RMA my GPU so I can't gen anything currently and I'm just lurking in the thread.
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>>8268179
Zoot is trying his hardest to shill his friend fine-tune and all the post here that make him seem reasonable are him samefagging
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>>8268182
You know the vast majority of image posters here could be classified as "avatarfags".
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>>8268125

vpred potential looks good. Really, just appreciate what they've released so far
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I can't keep up with all these new cast members. Who the fuck is Zoot?
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>>8268178
not really since there's a few hardcore, deeply rooted schizo's that are permanent no-gen and with no discernable characteristics beyond that they shitpost on all sides, incessantly samefag and seem to coordinate with one or two other schizo's for rapid mass reply shitposting(or are so mentally unwell they multi-phonepost to make it appear as such).
they also have a penchant of suggesting/giving completely incorrect and bad advice in an effort of degrading the quality of the thread.
(this has been an on-going thing for well over a year now, which is really fucked up)
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>>8268187
absolutely not true
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>>8268158
catbox?
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>>8268187
lmao there's a big difference between people like the shuten douji poster and the troons on /sdg/
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>>8268193
That difference being...?
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>>8268190
This. You can somewhat discern them by their favorite troll tactic and writing style tho
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>>8268187
there's a difference between people that use their personal style mix/oc donut's and just post with nothing else attached and people who do that while posting trying to build "personality."
ideally image posts should have no text unless it's explaining something really specific to do with whatever they posted or in reply to someone else asking about something they posted prior.
>>8268193
shutenfag is absolutely an avatarposter tho.
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I miss EPIC
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>>8268202
nah.
what he's doing is ritualposting on a level that's one step back from erp shit.
he needs to shut the fuck up, post his image/catboxes and do nothing else to be tolerable.
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>>8268192
https://litter.catbox.moe/ns7v3i.png
>>8268194
post quality and no troonix behavior
>>8268204
also this
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>>8268202
list of /hdg/ approved avatarfags? i dont want to upset the cabal
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>>8268207
Astralite
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>>8268207
it's literally just shutenanon
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I am... forgotten.
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>>8268210
I didn't vote for this, and only my vote matters.
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>>8268213
it's okay, anon.
no one remembers me until they specifically choose to remember me, too.
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>>8268204

t. troongiga zoomer
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>>8268185
Can do chief. I installed and started working like less than an hour ago, so I'm just figuring things out. Frankly I'm willing to believe most of my issues are probably with my pc, here's an attempt at Himeko
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>>8268219
what distro are you on anon, has debo been ignoring your posts lately? what did your therapist say about it?
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>>8268206
<lora:efgos-noob-vpred-v1:0.6> <lora:fellatrix-noob-vpred-v1:0.4>

These LORAs are not available in Civitai, can you post the link?
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so for noob and reforge, for the epsilon pred you have to use discrete-eps and should work?
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>>8268222
I mean if you want to be gay that's on you bro
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>>8268220
It's not your PC, provide a discord handle and I can walk you through everything (preferably an alt unless you don't care).
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>>8268225
for epsilon you don't have to do anything or enable any extension, epsilon is the default
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>>8268220
Hey, if you got everything working and are able to gen images then that's great! Congrats! Now it'd just be about improving your gens.

Did you get the Adetailer extension? That's an easy way to automatically improve gens. It detects things like faces, eyes, and hands and automatically inpaints them to try to fix any issues. Under the "Extensions" tab you can go to "Available" and click the "Load From" button to get a ton of possible extensions. Ctrl+F searching for ADetailer can get you to that one, and you can always get whatever else looks good to you too (there's a ton of stuff for doing things like removing backgrounds, tweaking colors, etc).
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>>8268220
Already doing better with some prompt tinkering. I assume the eyes is a res or something that gets fixed with refinement I don't know how to do
>>8268228
Oh! If you want to I can, I thought most people would be more annoyed by constant newbies flooding this place looking for spoonfeeding, one moment
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>>8268236
has to be bait
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>>8268229
Oh I see, for just the v-pred version you have to use v-prediction, and for the others it should just work?
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>>8268239
correct
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Join AI discord discord.gg/kJZenQhr
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>>8268228
blahblah0226, if you want to. I really don't want to impose though, I can at least try on my own
>>8268232
See that's the type of basic beginner thing I knew I was probably missing, much appreciated anon!
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>>8268204
yes, and?
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>>8268240
Perfect, many thanks anon.
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>>8268236
How would learning this shit take you an entire year?
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>>8268210
>>8268207
gonna include some 'ritual posters' too but here are my favorites

i appreciated kagami anon's dedication to making the perfect lora of his wife

ye olde saya poster with the hallucinogen backgrounds was goated too

i've got a soft spot for the mega man anon that bakes al the girls when a new meta model comes out

oekaki anon put a shit ton of effort into his gens by drawing up everything beforehand

those are the only ones i think were pretty cool
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>>8268248
>still crying about this
i know you're probably just shitposting but man on the off chance you aren't it would be so good
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>>8268238
you're confusing "more tolerable" with "isn't around 24/7"
they're still an annoying cunt. they just end up getting banned consistently and only show up once every week or two rather than being ever present.
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>>8268087
thank you for your saarvice
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>>8268113
Done.
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/16569
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/pull/2115
https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/pull/150
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>>8268254
>you're confusing "more tolerable" with "isn't around 24/7"
literally what's the difference. i don't notice them most of the time compared to the ones on the other board, so they're more tolerable. it's not that deep
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>>8268256
you're a gift to the community, catboxanon
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>>8267636
Same here, some artists and characters simply degraded, maybe I'm just unlucky, V-pred version kinda lame too, don't understand why people are so hyped about it.
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>>8268234
Oh, and what model are you using? Different models can respond to prompts differently. Best way to start out is to find a gen you like in the model you're using and use the prompt from that, then start tweaking it from there.

You can also look into LORAs and Embeddings that are supposed to improve quality. LORAs and Embeddings are both additions to models that can add or refine knowledge.

https://civitai.com/models/119032/unaestheticxl-or-negative-ti is an example of an embedding that's supposed to improve quality when put in the negatives.

https://civitai.com/models/229213/extremely-detailed-no-trigger-slidersntcaixyz is an example of a LORA slider that affects the amount of detail in an image, you can add it with a positive value for more details or a negative value for less.

Really though just figuring out effective prompts for the model you're using is one of the best ways to get better gens, so good luck with that!
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I like shutenanon's gens and I think it's incredibly funny there's actually people who get butthurt over someone saying "look how cute my wife is" and posting a good gen.
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>>8268264
>don't understand why people are so hyped about it.
you're in the general that somehow complained about pony colors (despite being 100% fine) every single hour of every day for an entire year
people here just dont have an eye for art and would rather shitpost
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>>8268268
oh now this is top tier bait. gonna get a lot of big ones with this
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What the helll is even vpred?
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>implementing all this shitty snake oil bloat
>meanwhile controlnet still breaks completely when you enable the refiner
priorities
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>>8268273
>refiner
lol
lmao
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>>8267636
Most of the ones I used got better, do you have examples?
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>>8268266
Such are the nogens. Either too poor for a NAI sub, or even a proper GPU. Or too unskilled to even prompt a 1girl standing.
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>>8268268
unironically not far off from the truth once you add the proviso that everybody who was complaining about pony colors was actually complaining about autismmix colors
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>>8268279

vpredded
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>>8268282
>unironically not far off from the truth once you add the proviso that everybody who was complaining about pony colors was actually complaining about autismmix colors
lmao this is such fucking bullshit, and that's coming from an early adopter of pony who trained on it and ef+hll
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so tell me, is noob slopped? i have used the latest 0.5 and it works decently well for some things but still completely fails for others. i have no doubt that it's better than every local model i've tried so far. however i am curious about it's "full power". if trained for 200 epochs, would it realistically reach the peak of SDXL? or is it being held back by datasets/code? how essential is stuff like the NAI loss-scaling, or a fully uncompressed dataset? what about their bucketing, vpred implementation, etc? is there a limiting factor?
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>>8268272
vpred (v-prediction) is a particular algorithm for training a model that results in that model working differently from standard models. It typically requires a separate .yaml configuration file in addition to the checkpoint file to work at all, and then a CFG rescaler in order to look good.

Vpred was popular with SD1.5 models because it improved training times and gave good results once setup. I haven't hear of anyone getting good results with it with SDXL though.
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>>8268287
it's using all of e621 i.e. it's peak slop
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my headcanon is that the "why are people so excited about vpred?" post is unironically astralite
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>>8268287

yeah its slopped, you better stop genning now.
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>>8268279
holy based
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>>8268293
Not a bad headcannon desu since he's blind
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>>8268279
damn anal brat
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>>8268287
Yeah dude go back to pony
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>>8268285
wow we've got an 1 year oldfag here
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>>8267916
nice art anon
>>8268256
based, were you the anon that said you'd try to add the sigma thing to reforge too?
>>8268264
vpred version looks pretty good if you mess with the snake oil extensions, I agree that some artists look worse on the newest epoch though
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>>8268096
amazing stuff anon,
senranbox?
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That is NOT the type of anilingus I was trying to gen
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catboxing since it feels like zzeeonn got aco'd hard on noob for some reason but the concept that came out of this testprompt is entertaining
https://files.catbox.moe/ypul3d.png
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>>8268290
>I haven't hear of anyone getting good results with it with SDXL though.
Besides NAIv3? And although it was only trained for 1 epoch, the vpred conversion of Noob does colors better too
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>>8268287
Pony is slopped too bro , return to AOM3 . It's peak
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>>8268299
try sd1.2, early waifu diffusion epochs, and textual inversion training nigger
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>>8268264
I also used this lora https://civitai.com/models/808215?modelVersionId=921319
with noob which sometimes improved some artist by a lot, but version 3 is utter garbage for some reason, oof.
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>>8268300
>were you the anon that said you'd try to add the sigma thing to reforge too?
No, but reForge anon added that in yesterday I think. https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/d8b86895dc3c2a9d4bdd0640e59a7729a0b4bc73
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>>8268302
Willingly you forgot to add futa in the negatives.
Willingly you uploaded futa to /h/

your a fgt
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>>8268307
>he thinks people actually used AOM3
how new are you
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>>8268287
this post gives me the same vibes as "I just finished watching/playing thing what did I think about it?" shitposts
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>>8268313
bubby your strawman looks a little funny
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>>8268315
it was a serious question... maybe i misworded it but i was trying to ask what's left to address besides vpred for an ideal final run. i like noob but it's still a bit flawed with some artists and i want the final one to not be as flawed, so i'm trying to ask whether there are more issues or if it just needs more epochs
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>>8268317
if you're gonna pretend like the peak model at the time was AOM3 i'm just gonna call you out on being a newfag or worse a civitai shitter
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>>8268319
the peak model was actually berrymix thank you very much
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>>8268321
nutmegmix anons our response??
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>>8268321
chilloutmix you retard
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For me? It's Cocomix.
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cstaber bros won
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I like the images that I generate with the model therefore I think the model is good.
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return to form
https://rentry.org/berrymix
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fluxstaber when?
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>>8268328
>https://rentry.org/berrymix
sirs...
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>>8268302
enable zero snr faggot
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new version Obsession (Illustrious-XL)
https://civitai.com/models/820208/obsession-illustrious-xl
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https://files.catbox.moe/486zwa.png
https://files.catbox.moe/fjfspg.pdf
do not forget our forefathers and the chink bible.
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>>8268333
>Dataset:50k AI-generated images from Aibooru and Pixiv + 10k images from Danbooru

RUH
RUHMAOOO
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>>8268331
the beginning of the end...
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wtf are u guys talking about waifu diffusion was peak
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>>8268331
our godfather has been with us from the start... come home astralite...
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>>8268333
Since it's based on noob, I'll try it out of curiosity.
https://civitai.com/models/870578
Here's another one for you
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>>8268333
>50k ai genned images
>10k images off danbooru
rorumao
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>>8268333
>training models on AI images
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>8268333
>After training, this model merged Lucereon into the U-net.
lol
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Seeing as H100s cost only $2/hr now there is no reason to not train your own models.
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Are you retards blind? That's for v1.0, entirely different thing.
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look mom im not replying
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>>8268333

>AI training on AI

This is just the beginning, the slop levels will be immeasurable.
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>>8268344
alright anon let us know when your new illustrious is coming out we'll look forward to it
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(You)
yes, (You)
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>>8268344
makes me wonder what kind of model would be possible if every nai user took their 25 bucks and tossed it into a pool to train a local on
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>>8268347
There are people generating images with pony using loras, taking those images, and than training loras for flux. We're approaching the slop singularity.
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>>8268333
to be fair in defense of this retard the counterfeit models weren't that bad
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>decide to make the bad decision of posting a lora on civitai for once after baking some illustrious loras
>one of the people that adds images to the gallery uses pony scoring tags and has gens that look nothing like the lora's art style
kek
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counterfeit was some of the ugliest sloppa of that era
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https://rentry.org/sdmodels
A trip down memory lane...
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>>8268355
no man i don't think it was even close. i can't name any worse ones off the top of my head since i've forgotten but bro there were some pretty bad ones
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>>8268344
The overall cost for training a model though? I've been thinking about doing it for Flux if the cost was reasonable. Also you'd need to account for the cost of storing all the data for training too.
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>>8268357
>Dreambooth > Gawr_Gura_450img.ckpt
never forgot how far we have come
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wtf i can use my computer to create anime girls
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>>8268357
>this general will never be as comfy as it was back then
sad. nai leak morning and the shills btfo'd was legendary. inevitable end like all things but sad nonetheless
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>>8268363

soul
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>>8268350
Kurumuz would be very sad.
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>>8268350
resonance lmao
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>>8268351
You can get results that way, but I don't trust anyone's ability to deslop their synthetic data.
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>>8268351
its fun to watch the AI collapse that people spoke of actually happen
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>>8268363
omg sick bro, ai is so cool!
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got some renaissance girls too but obviously not /h/
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>>8268374
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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>>8268370
diffusionfanatic sir...
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>>8268363
best post itt
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https://thisanimedoesnotexist.ai/
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Return to our roots
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post cunny
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>>8268381
lmfao what the fuck did you post in august 2022 to get banned for this
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post soul
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>>8268357
This is actually what confused me first coming in here. There are a ton of rentrys or other text guides floating around. I try not to bother thread too much by working on my own, but apparently a lot of them are out of date
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>>8268384
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>>8268374
>pre SD era
>someone tells me about craiyon
>open it on my phone
>type "anime girl with big tits wearing bikini"
>get the blurriest shit ever with a shape vaguely resembling a woman
>cock gets hard instantly
simpler times
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>>8268383
1girl, loli, realistic, william bouguereau
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>>8267587
Are you implementing the original version?
https://github.com/damian0815/compel/blob/main/src/compel/embeddings_provider.py#L139
Or are you using the comfy node as mentioned by another anon.
I could have another look at it if you point me to the relevant sections in reforge/forge
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>>8268350
one that's a lot better if we're talking about base models. people don't realize how fucking awful these base models really are. 2022 era midjourney images are more artistic than what base flux is capable of
https://x.com/tohofrog/status/1597317371038904320
somewhere along the line there became this poisoned idea that 'base model' must mean generic stock photos and text on signs. the "ai art" aspect was lost and now it's a struggle to re-inject art back into the models. base models of today are somehow uglier than 2022's. if the technological improvements of the past 2 years were spent training an actual art-focused model from scratch, the results would exceed what we currently have exponentially. unfortunate
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>>8268382
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>>8268391
She looks like my niece
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I still have some ancient catboxes saved from way back
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>>8268385
/sdg/ in trash is the more general "help with ai but also porn" thread. There's an sdg thread in g too but that's a blue board so only SFW.
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>>8268393
I want to fuck your niece
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>>8268387
you just reminded me of when i used craiyon to gen the body and then waifulabs to make the face and composite them together
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>>8268391
box
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>>8268393
i want to fuck your niece too
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https://files.catbox.moe/k9n7n0.png
respect the schizo neg
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>>8268389
I was trying with the node one that one anon posted.

Relevant code is here https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/tree/dev_upstream/extensions-builtin/reForge_Advanced_CLIP_Text_Encode

Basically inside the advclip folder, there is the 2 same files from https://github.com/BlenderNeko/ComfyUI_ADV_CLIP_emb (adv_encode.py and nodes.py)

To apply it, here is the script file https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/blob/dev_upstream/extensions-builtin/reForge_Advanced_CLIP_Text_Encode/scripts/advanced_clip_encoding.py

It gives some issues related to "intermediate_output ", I added a kinda handle-case for this but didn't work (line 19 to 27)
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>>8268406
i think the neg isnt the most schizo prompt here
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>>8268406
soul...where did we go wrong?
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>>8268406
>more legible than a modern comfy catbox
kek
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>>8268406
all of those artist tags and I guarantee 90% of the style is just being carried by (watercolor)
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>>8268393
Protect your niece
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>>8268411
cute
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>>8268217
Same.
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>start nostalgia posting about old gens
>shitposting slows to a crawl
beautiful
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>>8268414
Why is she missing a finger, anon

Otherwise pretty good shit, the mix of Korean and Japanese in the latents is pretty funny too
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im crAIyonning
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Okay fuckers, if you want to try out the v-pred model without any extra fuckery on Forge or reForge, git pull and update to their latest respective version, and use this version of the model. There's instructions in PR #16567 on the A1111 repo if you want to do it with your local copy yourself. Future model releases will already have this set up.
https://mega.nz/file/wg4wkZZQ#LAwPGflkq3IDwH03SMzddQoSOYlDoCqIbHu-ao2KNf0
Enables v-pred and ztSNR automatically. Should also makes adetailer work without any problems. Plug-and-play as they say.
>>8268328
>>8268363
>>8268380
>>8268406
Holy sovl.
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>>8268426
Any news on whether or not clicking the ztsnr checkbox won't somehow disable the 'dark' tag from doing much of anything besides hue shifting to blue on forge/reforge?
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>>8268384
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>>8268423
>Why is she missing a finger, anon
Jewish tricks
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>>8268429
I haven't experienced any problems like that. ztSNR is supposed to prevent the highlights/shadows of v-pred being blown out anyways afaik. Increase CFG scale maybe? V-pred model benefits from it, might just be due to it being underbaked still.
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is it cstabber again
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>>8268434
what the fuck is this supposed to be? spooky highlight contender?

>>8268402

https://files.catbox.moe/dix690.png
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>>8268438
>highlight contender?
go back
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why is it glowing so bright?
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>>8268431
did she forget to shave
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is there a reason why the snake oil extensions don't do anything with euler a cfg++?
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what are some style tags that make illustrious particularly illustriouspony consistent and without the NAI filter?

it feels worse than when pony first launched in terms of style fuckery and anatomy but character comprehension is so good
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>>8268449
To make illustriouspony consistent you switch to noob 0.5
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>>8268449
you switch to pony
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My friend really likes this character from a VN so I decided to gen something to fuck with him and show the capabilities of Noob but this came out with more clarity than I was expecting

https://files.catbox.moe/89cg3v.png
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>>8268453
subscribed
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>>8268453
slop
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>>8268453
>tfw "that guy" is sending me porn again
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>>8268333
Are most of zenless girls promptable?
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>>8268311
is this already in? none of the sliders do anything for me
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god i really hope LAX focuses on vpred from now on...
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>>8268467
haha...
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>>8268467
how bad is it?
should i get the the vpred model instead of the epsilon thing?
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>>8268462
kek
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gotta pay somehow even if you run out of poke dollars
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>>8268462
I normally just send him some goofy shit but he's a pretty vocal cunny guy so seeing his reactions is pretty enjoyable
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>>8268469
vpred is better colors, contrast, composition
but rn it's a test only, severely underbaked
if we had vpred baked for as much time as eps one it'd be as good as naiv3, unironically
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>>8268426
just tried it on latest version of reforge and it just works, thanks anon
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>>8268477
ic, thanks for the spoonfeed
dont keep up as much anymore
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>>8268469
>>8268477
https://files.catbox.moe/17p0xs.png
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>>8268467
Good news for you is that they are planning to bake v-pred to completion.
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>>8268481
I like both actually but vpred has better colors, yeah.
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I haven't even played the game this character is from, the outfit is just hot
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>finally got one without it putting a collar on her
holy fucking shit why is it so hard
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>>8268407
The codebase is such a rat's nest so I can't really follow what encode_token_weights() you're overriding, but I'm assuming it's going to be the SDXL one from here:
https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/blob/main/ldm_patched/modules/sdxl_clip.py#L55
If this is the case, why don't you handle each text encoder in the same way in your override?
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>>8268482
Convert or bake or both?
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>>8268488
LAX said they're going to try both and see what works best, up to this point they've only been using 8xH100 and now they have 32 so its not a big problem to bake both EPS and V-Pred.
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>>8268488
>>8268489
Nah that was a misunderstanding iirc. They run multiple experiments on those 32 GPUs. So at any one time, 4 bakes are being cooked up at once. With this information in mind, it would probably be both.
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>>8268481
>Negative prompt: nigger
kek
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Just sharing an image without further commentary to avoid giving the impression that I'm trying to establish a "personality."
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>>8268489
I keep hearing this but I read everything in both discords and it seems like he is still only doing the conversion once eps is done, not both??
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>>8268481
can you link a catbox of just the pred version? it looks a lot worse for me
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>>8268467
a few weeks ago someone with 2xa100s would seem like a big deal. now LAX is baking away on 32xH100s. i think ultimately in the end his idea of two models will work out and he has enough compute to do both comfortably and pick the ideal for the super 512x run. right now they're trying to fix their trainer and stacking vpred on top of it likely won't help. i do hope the vpred model does get attention soon, at least 5-epochs worth to really sell it.

reading his actual posts the "LAX is against vpred" shit seems like retarded headcanon concocted by EPIC when really they're just still trying to debug their shit. eps works for everyone and is supported by every single trainer, as it's the default configuration. they're trying to run trainers made and tested on single 3090s across 32x 80gb cards at insane batch sizes. the stuff euge cooked up was on his own code and own GPUs, they still have to implement it into the actual trainer after resolving the OOM issues. trust the plan
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>LAX completely switches to v-pred
>finishes the model
>uses the 512 H100s to convert it to 16CH VAE
Dreaming is nice sometimes...
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Well. With considerable help from anon I'm vaguely starting to understand this, and also get how complicated it. Very basic prompts, no loras or anything, and basically nothing but Adetailer and we're at least getting things that look like anime girls. Obviously I still have miles to go before I have presentable things, and I still have no clue what many of these acronyms mean, but we're making progress!
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>>8268497
Real, trust the plan.
>>8268494
See screenshot
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>>8268471
this bitch is the embodiment of woke shit.
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>>8268496
Vpred is severely under trained, not the full dataset and only a handful of epochs on 7 x 4090 Euge rented out of pocket. You can't compare anything but color with new noob, realistically. I wish more people mentioned that so people who don't know better wouldn't think vpred sucks because they're judging it on a faulty premise
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>>8268487
Honestly this is an inheritance from og old forge, so not sure what is happening exactly there. Any help is appreciated here since I'm not sure what to do, sadly (For sure I got more rusty after these 3 months)

Will still check how I can make this work.
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do you need "by artist" or just "artist" for illustrious/noob?
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>>8268500
uhh, that screenshot doesn't confirm anything at all though..
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>>8268502
I think his looks pretty good but mine doesn't even look like sakura
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>>8268504
Idk about illu but noob is trained to only need the artist name. No by and no artist:
Euge confirmed this himself
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>>8268507
with undertrained model it's pure gacha
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has anyone tried this?
https://civitai.com/models/870578/noobai-vpred-itercomp-test
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>>8268510
we're talking about it in euge's discord
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>>8268510
but on previews it looks worse...
sovl/sovlless literally
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>>8268510
would it work with reforge advanced sampling built it extension?
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Question about artists: Back in the day, Mogudan used to have what I consider a better style than he does today. The checkpoint I will use already has Mogudan as part of its tag library. Will the AI use the knowledge of old and current Mogudan to produce what I want, or will one overpower the other?
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damn... im about to sleep and need to come up with 4 styles to bake on noob overnight...
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>>8268486
good shit
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>>8268510
Wasn't itercomp the model they just trained with a bunch of SD3 outputs?
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>>8268503
My idea was to try and add it natively in:
https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/blob/037b6482e3b48c69c671262da20e53150bea6b83/modules/sd_emphasis.py#L49
Then edit:
https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/blob/main/modules/sd_hijack_clip.py#L269
To support multiple calls to the encoder.
The downside is you have to reimplement the logic from the downweight method again, which is how I found out the comfy node differed from the original compel. Got a bit stuck there since I couldn't decide which one made more sense to implement.
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>>8268518
nothing. bake nothing. go to bed with your pc off
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>>8268517
anon none of us can know that for said model without testing it. but most likely whichever one has more images in the dataset used will be the predominant style, unless both styles were tagged differently
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>>8268517
"newest" and "oldest" are useable tags, might work. there's a few more inbetween but I forget, would need to check the illustrious paper
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>>8268518
atte nanakusa
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>>8268510
idk what this is, but after looks way worse desu
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Tis the season to be eating real good
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https://files.catbox.moe/do8q4a.png
Too bad the girl looks normal, but nice enough.
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Astralite will deliver with V7 in 6 months and become the king, just you wait. We'll all be using anime_42
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>>8268535
Pubes and hairy buttholes are so good on illu/noob, very nice
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>>8268501
punishment is on order then
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Why are my vpred gens coming out with an orange sepia thing?
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>>8268501
Judging from the Pokemon leaks and her bullying backstory, I'd say she's the embodiment of submissive and breedable
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>>8268532
is saitama cucking subaru here? kek
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>>8268532
box?
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>>8268542
Saitama might be buff but he doesn't have this body shape, come on lmao

It's full power black sperm
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>>8268539
don't expect anything out of it yet
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>>8268543
https://files.catbox.moe/vm2xof.png
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>>8268546
thanks chief
>grabbed breast over shoulder
how reliable is this tag typically?
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>those eyes
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https://files.catbox.moe/ozshxn.png
https://files.catbox.moe/7e1ix2.png
Any horror enjoyers still around?
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>>8268538
yeah thats good
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>>8268549
It looks like he fucked a new hole right into the middle of her face. Must've been how the second belly button appeared too. Brutal
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>>8268550
Yeah give me a prompt and ill run it on my horror setup
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is vpred training like a scale, where you specify how 'predded you want it to be? how do we know if euge's implementation is even right? as i often got a lot of monochrome fuckups when testing it. does it just need way more time?
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>>8268554
>does it just need way more time?
yes
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>>8268550
>Horror from beyond tries to appeal to a human male, but is confused about the whole thing. Guy is terrified.
Now write a comic about this.
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>>8268552
https://files.catbox.moe/yr2wpg.png
i can make it worse.
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>>8268559
I'm sorry dude but this style looks like someone traced over an Illusion game screenshot.
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>>8268522
Hmm I see, the "port" is more direct when trying to come from comfy into reforge, but if a "new" or "more" correct method is available for it it would be nice, but that is pretty advanced as well.
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>This page has been removed because of a takedown request.
why the FUCK are bakers still using danbooru? it's actually sabotaged garbage.
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>>8268559
cute choco strawberry
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>>8268563
the bakers were provided a full dump by some mod from danbooru i think. illust recognizes all banned artists, i.e. belko
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>>8268563
it has the best tagging, no dupes and no ai
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>>8268510
tried it on reforge and seems to make every gen worse
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illustrious seems to struggle with blowjobs in this position
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>another artist with broken hands but perfectly fine style otherwise on vpred
this is so sad
https://files.catbox.moe/2tg1kd.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ne84q9.png
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>>8268569
why is it so...yellow? whats the word im looking for
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>>8268561
don't bother. retard has been posting the same slop for a year straight
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>>8268563
bro, your full danbooru backup?
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>>8268569
>perfectly fine
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>>8268548
About 200 results in total so not amazingly reliable but it does work. There's probably a combination of tags that works better but I don't know which two/three tags those would be.
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>>8268569
Might be schizo but when I was prompting the Lose girls I added "game_cg" and it felt like it worked better? Might be schizo though.

Unfortunately we can't prompt Chima no matter how hard we try... My denim hot pants catgirl...
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>>8268568
i feel like most models would struggle with blowjobs in that position
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>>8268581
Sometimes you do gacha into a decent 69 position, even though 69 wasn't prompted lol
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>>8268563
The backups on HF were from before artists started issuing mass takedown requests, and then the newest content is just that. There isn't really a great alternative unless they scrape Gel.
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>>8268575
I don't think anything THAT wrong with style overall?
>>8268579
tbf looks broken on epsilonpread too, adding other artists to the mix and prompting shit like stretched hand helps slightly, but still feels like a gacha https://files.catbox.moe/p4uje1.png
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>>8268569
seems like an issue of skill
https://litter.catbox.moe/j7p4jq.png
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>>8268581
true
>>8268582
also very true lol. case in point
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>>8268565
Good to know. I was about to make a lora for him.
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mmm yummy finger
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>>8268588
Goated.
For some reason my tails tend to be tiny as fuck when I prompt them, not sure why lol
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>>8268553
moonlight, from above, 1girl, 1boy, red eyes, ringed eyes, completely nude, tears, blush, saliva string, saliva drip, saliva string, naughty face, breath, half-closed eyes, nipple slip, after fellatio, after ejaculation, tongue out, coughing, cum in mouth, cum from nose, cumdrip, cum on tongue, cum on penis, saliva on penis, messy, v

>>8268556
If only saya no uta showed her in a more grotesque form
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Can noob do amazon press pictures? I don't mean this as a flame war instigator or anything, it's just that it's a pretty complex pose so I'd understand if that's not something that's really out of the box ready
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>>8268589
might be placebo but on noob0.5 try throwing "large tail, fluffy tail," into your prompts
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>>8268569
As a side note, the scene we were promised but never got in game:
https://files.catbox.moe/8mu2zi.png
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>>8268592
Yes. I have got some pretty interesting poses out of noob so far.
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>>8268599
Ooooh, Do you think I could ask for a catbox of this?
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hmm that might be a bit risky
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trying to catch up on hdg stuff, what the fuck is vpred
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>>8267993
>inpainting is shit on nai, actually fucking awful
What's awful about it? It's the thing I miss the most after switching to local again?
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>>8268611
Imagine a tiny spider crawling into your ear and laying eggs, and when the beautiful baby spiders come out they excrete contrast and colors.
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>>8268616
nvm I dont wanna know anymore
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She's having sex with his neck, but we're getting somewhere
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>>8268620
May want to try another aspect ratio for that
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>>8268595
lol
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>>8268624
True, but I just kind of hardly know what I'm doing
Also what do I do if the ai puts text in the image even when I have text and speech bubles in the negative prompt?
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気になるます!
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>>8268054
cute foxy
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>>8268627
Ladies and gentlemen, we have PONIS in VAGENO
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Scrolling through aibooru and seeing Wendy from Fairy Tail reminded me of some official art a while back

https://files.catbox.moe/t2h6xm.png
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>>8268635
The art in question
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1993819
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>>8268630
chitanda box?
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>>8268639
https://files.catbox.moe/x248pa.png
lora's here >>8268087
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Noob can't do anilngus + handjob (rusty trombone) unfortunately
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>>8268411
nekobox pls
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>>8268644
>me when i spread misinformation
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>>8268138
Are you using "female_rimming_male, rusty_trombone" tags? They did work on nai furry when I used them, but I'm yet to use illu. Even if it doesn't work now, it'll probably work with further bake though.
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>>8268138
>>8268644
>>8268655
this has to be bait, but i'll bite
https://files.catbox.moe/866m6e.png
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https://mega.nz/folder/ctl1FYoK#BYlpywutnH4psbEcxsbLLg
added arako o (illustrious)
>>8268630
completely forgot this character exists. season 2 when
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>>8267540
not canon, her boobs are bigger
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https://files.catbox.moe/cvvc9v.png
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>>8267614
artist mix?
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is there a decent tag for making the female smaller in a b/g pic?
size difference and height difference dont do the job as well as i'd hoped
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>>8268670
Some prompt I snatched from a naifag (didn't even clean it up).
1girl, silver wolf \(honkai\: star rail\), solo, joker \(stjoker\), tianliang duohe fangdongye, jonpei, quasarcake, realistic, yamakawa, observerz, zuizi, (onineko,:1.1), lam \(ramdayo\),, (as109,:0.9), (hito komoru,:1.1) year 2023,, (from below,:1.05) tree, feet, foot focus,,,,,,,,,,, looking at viewer, dynamic_angle, cinematic_angle, loli, sitting, night, (pale skin,:1.05) white pantyhose, panties under pantyhose, polka dot panties, topless, nipples,
masterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic, absurdres,
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Does anyone have the link to LORA from fellatrix??
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>>8268583
and that data and caption set would require an unholy degree of sanitizing
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I can't install DanTagGen on ReFore? It's incompatible, isn't it?
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Beginning to realize how strong negative prompts are on noob, and it's pretty based.
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>>8268682
it's the same on illustrious. that's what happens when your model isn't overfit to all hell.
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>>8268682
multiple view clearly doesn't work in negative prompt.
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>>8268686
It does though?
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>>8268686
Shut up, pony bad.
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>>8268686
bro you can just say you're a promptlet, nobody will judge you
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I'm getting pretty nice results.
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>>8268690
i will
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does anyone know where to find the nyalia lora?
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>>8268698
it's lost media
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>>8268698
https://civitai.com/models/834822/nyalia%20Illustrious
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>>8268698
Which one, I have 3 different version, 2 from here. one on civit
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>>8268698
yes
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>>8268700
thanks
>>8268701
I assumed the one in the metadata of some of the images posted these past few threads were from a lora that came from here than civit, so I figured i'd ask
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>>8268698
People are really obsessed with that lora, just find your own mixes ffs
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why so orange
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I think my eldritch monster girl might be suffering from a stroke
https://files.catbox.moe/mcfpfr.png
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>>8268705
it's stable diffusion
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>>8268667
>>8268664
very nice
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>>8268704
what if i want the lora to make my own mixes, ever think of that?
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>>8268703
i'm literally elegg
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>>8268706
have you told her to look more presentable
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>>8268711
Prove.
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>>8268703
This anon made the vpred one
>>8264320

I have this one not sure from who
https://files.catbox.moe/frln8g.safetensors
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>>8267798
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=1990s_%28style%29+&z=5
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=watercolor_%28medium%29+&z=5
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=graphite_%28medium%29+&z=5
>>8268060
Didn't work on Forge for me but did work on Comfy.
>>8268406
What does Schizo Neg look like on modern models?
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>>8268710
Why don't you just find out what artists mix he used for his style and just add them to your mix? I just fucking hate using loras after months of pony, sorry anon you can do whatever you want
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Is 1024x1536 a retarded SDXL resolution?
It's the size I'm used to coming from 1.5. The images also look better to me than 832x1216 which seems to be popular
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>>8268708
The toenails detail, the inferior race representation. Literally NAI level. Only missing vpred in order for colors to pop.
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>>8268719
Should be but I mean if it's working for you keep on keeping on
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So is NAI throttling gens now?
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>>8268718
Does the last noob version actually know these two? Nice
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>>8268722
wdym
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>>8268722
Eeeeeyup
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>>8268722
No! they are making paid gens faster
>I'm splitting hairs?
Ssshhh...
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>>8268725
>Whether you purchase Anlas on-demand or you have a paid subscription that comes with monthly Anlas, you will begin to experience faster compute times while generating images that use Anlas.

The unlimited free image generations for Opus users will not see much of an improvement, unless you use Anlas to pay for the generations (ex. Non standard image size, multi-generations, etc.)
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i like the chibi inset tag
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>>8268602
Cum beer
https://files.catbox.moe/gihw4j.png
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>>8268729
Soul
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i have an image generating on my pc rn
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>>8268732
wtf
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>>8268732
thanks, keep us posted
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>>8268732
How?!
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>>8268732
is it sexy anime?!?
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>>8268732
Are you fucking kidding me?
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>>8268732
1girl?
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>>8268713
i love boom
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>>8268732
Vaxxed?
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>>8268722
nah
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>>8268740
trump lost
again
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>>8268739
omg elegg let me fondle your pudgy belly
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>>8268742
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/trump-tariffs-increase-laptop-electronics-prices
The choice is clear for all AI gooners
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full res: https://files.catbox.moe/w3qj4x.png
comparison with previous lora: https://files.catbox.moe/b70gqj.png
Finished v2 of uoh artists lora, i switched from batch size 1 to 2 and it feels like a large downgrade in style accuracy. It'll probably be a while before I make a v3 though.
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>>8268746
finally a lolicon lora!
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>>8268750
ahem, there are also shota artists in there. this is a kodocon lora.
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Any good models? used a lot of noobaixl but want to experiment
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>>8268753
counterfeit v3
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>>8268751
I hope to see a LORA toddlercon in the future
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>>8268720
does vpred work with comfy?
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>>8268756
Also there, that's what feral lemma is.
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o hey sepia negative is strong
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>>8268759
>>8268760
sovl status?
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>vpred doesn't work with loras
What the fuck is the point?
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>>8268746
Impressive, very nice. Now let's see download link.
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>>8268773
it does though?
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>>8268757
What even doesn't work with comfy? Add ModelSamplingDescrete node, you'll get vpred with zsnr toggle.
>>8268773
Bake new loras for vpred.
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>>8268759
>>8268760
ASTRASISTERS... NOT LIKE THIS...
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>>8268773
the two images above you are literally using vpred with non-vpred trained loras
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>>8268777
gotcha, im still super new to comfy so im trying to figure all this shit out
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>>8268765
>>8268768
boxes please?
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NO.. NO... YOU CANT HAVE A MODEL WHERE NEGATIVE PROMPTING IS ACTUALLY USEFUL... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>8268775
v1: https://litter.catbox.moe/iog5x0.safetensors
v2: https://litter.catbox.moe/t5rb5j.safetensors
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>need separate loras for base sdxl
>need separate loras for pony
>need separate loras for illust
>need separate loras for vpred illust
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>8268782
did you just sleep through pony or something?
negatives being impactful isn't a model thing. it's an architecture thing. And they're impactful on XL.
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>>8268781
https://files.catbox.moe/kfc4pa.png
https://files.catbox.moe/84omh1.png
all the american fat tags are just to balance out the artist mix trying to skeletonize everybody
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>>8268730
that's cute. box?
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>>8268784
hello newfag sir
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overfitting the model on 500k pics vs millions of different images
uh oh!
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Astralite sisters, we need to fight back. I'm starting to see more and more popular pony lora authors using Illustrious.
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is cathag having another meltdown for some reason
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bust inside redheads
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is cathag in the room with us right now?
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>>8268785
so are there any recommended negatives for Noob or is that another wait till the full release thing?
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>>8268783
Thanks, cunnybro.
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>>8268746
ok so, it's a bunch of artists in one lora?
very nice job
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and the painted look was excessive even for me
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>>8268805
show her face
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>>8268810
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>>8268811
Any chance of that norman rockwel lora for illustrious?
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>>8268812
https://civitai.com/models/393322?modelVersionId=919108
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/aco/ hours...
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>>8268813
Thanks. I hate they don't mark it illustrious or pony in title. Make it harder to find.
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>>8268783
.txt with all the artists?
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anyone have good adetailer settings? mine make the faces dog shit
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>>8268810
>>8268811
woah that's cute
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>>8268817
just check metadata
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>>8268814
look at her face thats not fucking /aco/
so sorry that pony brainrot did this to you, hope you can recover from it some day
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>>8268811
>spo_sdxl_10ep_4k-data_lora_webui.safetensors

what's this for?
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>>8268823
it's not active, was testing some a/b and decided it was negative value added overall
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im just having fun
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>>8268801
No problem.
>>8268804
Yup, pretty much an experiment on whether it was even possible to train a lora like this on 8gb.
>>8268817
There aren't many so I didn't think it was necessary.
It's collagen, cromachina, feral lemma, harada takehito, henreader, jairou, lets0020, lolicom, fizrotart, gs-mantis, lokulo no mawashimono, dragoner, pelican \(s030\), typehatena, cocolo \(co co lo\), and custom udon plus kannazuki genshi for v1 and sweetonedollar, ohgnokuni and nanatsuta for v2
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>>8268825
i wanna have fun too, so please catbox
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>>8268826
basado
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>>8268828
cropped it out of https://files.catbox.moe/lmligr.png
i'm generating big images with multiple views tagged so my potential pose net is massive (t. inpainter schizo)
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getting 3 nai months for free almost feels like monkey's paw now but it is what it is
still convenient considering im pretty much always on laptop I guess
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>>8268822
asuka's official material has nostrils, therefore she's not anime, quod erat demonstrandum
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>>8268826
nice
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>>8268826
gonna fap to this
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>>8268827
some artists you can use in a future lora
medaka_ken'ichi
wada_wau
prinny801
team_pervy
mion_orz
miyasaka_takaji
ssb
pears
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>>8268834
>3 nai months for free
how?
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lmao
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>>8268839
some of these have pretty limited datasets even on gelbooru and the only ones who's style I'm really liking are miyasaka takaji and pears. i'll keep those two in mind though
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>>8268843
https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts
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>>8268846
It was a pain in the ass just re-adding sankaku to grabber when i needed to way back when, i just stick to gelbooru
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>>8268840
1 gib from vg i got after checking out their thread
2 months from a friend I payshared with before like 2 times but gave it to me fully
also have a lot of anals leftover combined from different accounts
i was unusually lucky with getting nai free shit in general, been using it pretty much since release of v3 and paid maybe 50 bucks that were from my btc wallet anyway.
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>>8268847
>gallery-dl "https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts?tags=miyasaka_takaji&z=5" --write-tags
it's unironically that easily
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>>8268841
me on the left
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>>8268851
I'll see if manage to not fuck up installing gallery-dl next time, then.
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Using reforge, a good sampler to download? i usually use Euler
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>>8268856
dont change anything
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>>8268841
why is it so washed
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i'm ass at inpainting
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>>8268857
... then i just use Euler?
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>>8268861
better than half the thread who refuse to inpaint whatsoever
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>>8268860
asanagi tag, unironically, actually
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>>8268856
Depends on the model you're using. I've been using Euler Negative, recently.
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https://litter.catbox.moe/tshajg.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/6rtvla.png
I love pedophilia! It's one of the most coolest things in the world!
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>>8267695
Box please?
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>>8268855
>make sure python is installed
>go to a folder you like
>python -m venv venv
>venv\Scripts\activate
>pip install gallery-dl
>now navigate to %appdata%, then gallery-dl folder
>open config.json and set base directory to that folder you like; it will download media here
>"base-directory": "C:/folderwithvenv",
congrats you installed gallery-dl
now i want to download something
>cd "C:"
>cd "C:\folderwithvenv\"
>venv\Scripts\activate
>gallery-dl "https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts?tags=miyasaka_takaji&z=5" --write-tags
and you're done. there's the gallery-dl retard guide. if you need more help, chatgpt. the world is your oyster anon
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>>8268826
i'm guessing the face crop is the issue with these deletions, high ass standard jannies
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>>8268866
only using noobxl
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>>8268856
euler smea dyn, sgm uniform, 30+ steps
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>>8268879
Just post boxes?
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who else using dpmpp sde cfg++ no brown with AYSLF
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on the vpred checkpoint if I turn zsnr on it makes everything kinda glowily washed out and shitty looking on most styles. on others it looks better with it on. I see catbox anon talking about making it automatically be turned on, so I assume that is as its supposed to be. so wtf am I doing wrong that makes it all shitty? or is it just a fault of the vpred checkpoint not being properly baked yet?
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>>8268883
I'm not Sakura anon
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>>8268882
cfg?
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>>8268879
you can post this to /b/ without any issues
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>>8268858
peakperformancebox?
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>>8268867
same desu
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does prompting a neg in the positive prompt not work for Illu? Used to to it on pony
Mainly for character wildcards that necessitate a negative prompt, i'd use (tag:-1)
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>>8268893
you always needed negpip for that to work properly
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>>8268889
like, five
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>>8268883
noone's gonna click it
besides, some people hate cunny and I dont want to force anyone to see it

>>8268890
>/b/
fuck that noise, I'd rather get my vacation than slum with the tourists

>>8268891
https://files.catbox.moe/dbzhh3.png
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>>8268890
>/b/
how are the threads nowadays?
are they still full of zombie clowns, scat, toddlercon and darth vaders?
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>>8268900
Based firm conviction anon.
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>>8268902
last i checked it was like six namefags who must have been posting every single gen they made based on the timers and only talking to each other
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>>8268902
They have always been terrible and will remain terrible. I posted there several times because I'm not very picky when horny but it's a shithole, a slum.
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what the fuck is the difference between euler a and euler a comfy
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>>8268900
El Basado Anónimo.
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>>8268867
No girls like little girls!
https://files.catbox.moe/47frs2.png
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>>8268914
did she hit her head?
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>>8268916
are you sure that's a girl
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>>8268918
I'm absolutely positive this is not a middle aged salaryman
https://files.catbox.moe/nzh8k3.png
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>>8268917
Nope, she's just thinking about lewd things.
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I'm guessing Noob doesn't include Gelbooru? I found an artist style I wanted to try that only Gelbooru has and it's giving me nothing
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=karasu_raven
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Cunnybox: https://litter.catbox.moe/p4e1pe.jpg
>>8268900
I click random catboxes all the time. Also, you can just warn anons beforehand. Like so.
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>>8268923
What's she thinking about
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>>8268930
bbc
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>>8268923
it does look like she hit her head desu
(I hit her head with muh dick)
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>>8268931
No wonder she looks so distressed
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>>8268931
Why is she thinking about british tv?
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>>8268943
cause it's terrorist propaganda
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>>8268886
>or is it just a fault of the vpred checkpoint not being properly baked yet?
this. the current version was trained on 300k images for 1 epoch which is almost nothing compared to full dataset
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>>8268949
incidentally, baking an artist lora for it is enough to make it palatable style-wise
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>>8267784
Loras trained on base illust work just fine on noob, even on vpred. Some pony and base SDXL/animagine loras work as well.
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>>8268953
>even on vpred
Of course it "works", but it just undos the color range and you get washed out colors. LoRAs for vpred need to be trained on vpred for the best effect. Look at the ones anon dumped here a couple threads ago.
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>>8267784
Instead of loras we should bake another tiny models which will be suitable as a teacher model. Then you just train the model at runtime. How's that?
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uohtest anon, please explain this fuckery
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>>8268959
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I've been converted to noobai
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>>8268964
cute
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>>8268959
or rather, more like this kek
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Anyone else noticed that adding huge breasts to a prompt reduces quality somewhat? More anatomical errors, I mean.
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>>8268957
it does not though? illustrious lora’s on vpred vs base illustrious still look night and day in terms of color contrast and range. if you’re gonna make claims like this post some x/y grids instead of assumptions
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>>8268972
Doesn't really make sense to me. what are you even teaching the Lora teacher during pre training?
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>>8268960
i trained with a batch size of 2 so it trained two images at once instead of 1
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>>8268979
you trained for one epoch only?
hey if it works it works
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>>8268870
uninpainted box https://litter.catbox.moe/2kbfog.png
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>>8268924
this anon has a decent lora for him in that mega
>>8268664
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>>8268981
with the settings I need to use to crunch this shit down into 8gb of vram, one epoch takes over 10 hours with the amount of images I have. >>8266771
i would do more if I could, trust me, but I like being able to use my computer.
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>>8268961
luv unintentional nudity, simple as
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>>8268977
mhm, yep, sure
left = non-vpred on v-pred, right = v-pred on v-pred
loras were trained identically otherwise
https://files.catbox.moe/0k2w1k.png
https://files.catbox.moe/f3l03q.png
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>>8268987
your efforts are commendable, much appreciated.
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>>8268978
Don't quote me on specifics, I'm the idea guy.
Maybe you can train a tiny diffusion model, or a scoring model which will tell which of the two samples is better. Controlnet is also worth considering.
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>>8268989
and here is the non-vpred on non-vpred for reference. the quality only gets fucked when you try to use on v-pred models, as it should.
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>>8268949
rip, guess nothing to do but wait for them to hopefully pump out a vpred model at warp speed, couldn't care less about EPSpred at this point
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if i want trigger words for my lora do i need to train both the text encoder and the unet?
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>>8268994
no, training the unet is enough. there was a technical explanation for this maybe a dozen threads ago. almost all models freeze the text encoder.
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>>8268995
thanks
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>>8268990
oh yeah, while i didn't save the toml for v2 i did for v1
https://files.catbox.moe/qetlbp.toml
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>>8268989
Wtf why does vpred on vpred look way worse
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>>8268991
You could train a model (not diffusion) on pairs of finished loras and their datasets. However this approach would severely degrade Lora quality and there isn't enough data to train such a model in the first place
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Do you like chubby girls?
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>>8269002
succubox pls
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>>8268989
I like the left more...
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>>8269006
>>8268998
not him but why? maybe right is slightly overexposed, but it's more vibrant, has better contrast and represents style much better.
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>>8268997
>keep_tokens_separator = "|"
Huh What kind of fuckerty is this?
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>>8269006
maybe you like it more but it is more washed out and not adhering to the training data as well
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>>8269007
Dunno, it just feels like it has more details and volume, especially on the nips and hair.
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>>8269007
Maybe I just find the style and clashing colors ugly, I guess? It looks really bad to me, very bland and ugly, but I'm not familiar with the source material so maybe that's the problem
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>>8269005
https://litter.catbox.moe/fu2ufm.png
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>>8268997
Mind sharing the dataset? Wanna try to train a fine-tune on it.
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>>8269011
>>8269012
I guess left looks "softer" which is easier on the eye
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>>8269013
cheers mate
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>>8269011
>it has more details and volume, especially on the nips and hair.
This is definitely it for me. Left to me looks like nice art you might see in a game cg, where right looks like something a color blind troon doodled in mspaint..
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>>8269008
I keep the artist tag and quality tags as the first tokens and then shuffle the rest. The pipe is just a way to mark where I want to stop shuffling.
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/blob/main/docs/config_README-en.md#options-for-subsets
>>8269014
Alright, let me zip it up for you. Just wait one sec.
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>>8269018
>sees pic stylized as pixel art
>thinks of troons
Deranged.
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>>8269020
No, I like pixel art normally. It's the ugly color combinations and flat autistic type styling that reminds me of troons. Very distinct difference
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Noob / Illust actually made me unsubscribe from NAI
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>>8269020
I get what he means tho... it's like the same aesthetic sense you get when a troon tries to emulate an actual woman... surreal this is a thing kek
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i'm using the easy training scripts gui, is there a way to stop training and resume where i left off?
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>>8269026
Post this in Nai discord for the lols apparently they melt down if you so much as mention it there
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>>8269028
you have to use the save/resume ARGs in the extra ARGs thing. I think it's --save_state and --resume_state but I don't remember 100%. should be listed on the kohya sdscripts GitHub readme
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>>8269031
fugg.. i thought you could resume with the loras it saves every few epochs. thanks anon, i'll look into it
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>>8269028
>>8269031
I cba to find it while I'm in bed on mobile but https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/issues/466 describes it in more detail. just for lazy scripts it gets slapped in the extra ARGs thing
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>>8269034
>but we can use --network_weight option to continue training from the trained model.
oh maybe i'm saved
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>>8269033
I think you kind of can but it fucks it up because it restarts the LR optimizer etc over and warmups etc
sorry I'm half asleep on knock out cold meds but I think kohya mentions in >>8269034 the command for that too, just recommends you use the other way for that exact reason
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>>8269035
yeah that's the one lol goodluck I'm passing out
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I'm really feeling the improvement in 0.5 with the styles I've been using, love the slop right now
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>>8268989
Both seem fine but point taken
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>>8269026
yeah they no longer have the exclusivity pretty much, I wouldn't use it if I didn't get gibs. the speed is still nice compared to middling hardware though, but the no-lora thing is really annoying when you compare it to local.
i bet they thought local wouldn't catch up by now so they weren't in a rush with v4.
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Why is your dick shivering so much, anon?
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>>8269042
Them not updating v3 and/or stalling out v4 is what did it in
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>>8269042
I'm sure they're still in no rush now when their chatbot site has taken over 2 years with no release in sight and there are loads more better options for such things
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every time I look at the NSFW channel on the noobxl discord I want to kill myself. why the fuck do I keep looking
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>>8269048
At least post the images
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>>8269044
you think if she brushes her teeth long enough she could make them normal?
*insert monogatari scene here*
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>>8269048
Share an example so I can want to kill myself too.
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>>8269049
they're feral furry and futas
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>>8269052
sounds based desu
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>>8269048
wtf is noobxl discord? it's not euges one, right?
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>>8269045
>>8269047
v3 was november so we'll see then I guess. if they're struggling with v4 at least some sort of v3.5 update would be reasonable too, i bet plenty of their users are frustrated with lack of newest gacha whores (and Fern)
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>>8269052
Well it is discord. You only have yourself to blame.
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>>8269054
It's the one listed on the Civitai upload of noobxl. it's 99.8% civitjeets, furfags and EPIC being retards, very bleak
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>>8269057
ah, so an asylum, very well.
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>>8269056
I know. I originally wanted to keep tabs on checkpoint info, but now the chinks don't even post to it and I'm trapped rechecking it like I'm watching a train wreck I can't look away from. I think it might count as a form of self harm at this point
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>>8269037
your sacrifice won't be in vain
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>>8268698
>search for nyalia on danbooru after seeing several bakes of this style
>realize it's just on pixiv
>it's relatively standard nai ciloranko account
am I missing something
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>>8269064
just your typical ai grifter
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>APG is your cfg
I need an adult to tell me about this new snake oil I hadn't updated reForged in awhile. Is there somewhere documenting all the snake oil at this point?
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>>8269067
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2410.02416
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>getting relatively low views and likes on pixiv
>but plenty of comments (2-5) on almost every post
what does this mean
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>>8269072
probably that you're hitting a niche audience instead of a wide one
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>>8269072
That's normal
There's always gonna be a vocal minority among your subscribers, and they're also the people who arrived/subscribed first
your views and subs will go way up eventually but average comment number will grow much, much slower
t. haver of non-slop pixiv account
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>>8269014
i almost conked out and then it took a while to upload to gofile, sorry
https://gofile.io/d/PkNnOs
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What's the meta for training on noobnai vpred? Do I need to change anything or can I just use the same settings as the first release?
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>>8269072
Anon putting anime girls in g force training centrifuges here.
Happened to me as well on my pixiv - and as another anon said, you probably hit a niche.
My audience is much more verbal on my previously mentioned niche stuff compared to my more "normal" posts, where it's usually either silence or that elephant nosebleed reaction emoji they post. Normal posts gets more bookmarks/likes, niche stuff gets comments.
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>>8269054
Euge's discord is very comfy despite the failed troon hostile takeover
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>>8269083
see >>8268426
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>>8269038
imagine how good it will be when its finished
also nice melons
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>>8269086
thats for running the model not training it
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>>8269088
i'm retarded. see >>8264276
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It already surpasses the expectations I had when I first heard of it, can't wait for the final version
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>>8269083
In easy scripts I enabled v param and ztsnr, disabled minsnr and all noise offset args and added the fixed version of debiased estimation as an extra arg (Not sure if the last one worked)
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>>8269082
>11GB
Damn, that might take some time to download and unpack...
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>>8269092
Probably could've compressed it even more but it's just a fuck ton of images.
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>>8269092
>11GB
Man I hope its dolphin porn
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>>8268989
I love left nipples
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>>8269096
Well... At least he'll train a dolphin porn lora...
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>>8269087
This got me thinking, since now that Illus based finetunes have almost filled out any niches that were lacking in ponv based checkpoints, what is the appeal of the future auraflow based ponyv7? Artists, probably certain concepts and characters, are pruned like last time. They are training on a model filled with synthetic data, that also still only has a 4 channel vae. The only saving grace IMO would be if it's prompt adherence is good with NLP and tag based prompts, and does multiple characters better. Otherwise you'll end up with a model that basically does the same as any illus finetune, but larger, and more resource-intensive to both train on and gen with. Not to mention an unknown amount of artists/concepts/characters are pruned because of "ethics" or because a certain Astra hates a certain fanbase (Touhou, certain vtubers).
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>>8269102
too many words for stating the obvious
astratroon is a faggot
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>>8268568
>>8268549
catbox onigai?
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>>8269072
I have like 10k followers on pixiv and my views barely increased, I get like 1-3k views per post and some hit that go up to 10k which isnt really a lot but I dont really mind
Barely got any comments tho
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>>8269102
Next steps forward would be
>better text encoder, something like the small gemma llm in sana
>16ch vae
>raised parameter count
>More diverse anime dataset
V7s only potential saving grace is the dataset since he spared no expense to get something unique here. Probably won't be able to capitalize on it tho.
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>>8269106
>I have like 10k followers on pixiv and my views barely increased
probably got them before ai started being hidden by everyone and suppressed on pixiv? it's kinda bad in that regard right now
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This is the update for improving vpred, right? Do you guys just enable it with the default settings or should I be changing these values?
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>>8269119
latest reforge doesn't require any of that now if you use the model here >>8268426
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>>8269113
>>8269106
I was wondering, based on any here who has a pixiv account and posts there regularly, what are your observations in regards to what your audience likes the most? For instance I have noticed my audience prefers more (based on bookmarks/likes) my images where the male is more submissive/smaller and female is more mature and in control. I think my audience has mommy issues.
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>>8269123
im blind ignore this post. yes the sigma stuff is what some are claiming improves it
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>>8269086
>>8269123
anons are blind as shit today
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>>8269125
i started with 1girl effort cunnyposts but with time started drifting to them getting fucked by fat bastards while lowering refinement standards. not only cunny cunny, but older girls as well. started getting considerably more views/comments.
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Jordach status, if any? Last time he showed experimental v-pred sd 1.5 test model (was all furry so useless for us), where the purpose was to test their code before beginning training on SDXL.
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>>8269133
boxx?
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>>8269130
I don't think anything can beat that >>8264733 one
dude is genuinely unwell and milking him now would be kiwifarms level
just let him be. if you donated money, ask him directly.
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>>8269125
>>8269129
so mature dominant hags having sex with submissive small fat bastards is the way to get famous on pixiv? someone test this
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>>8269138
>dominant hags having sex with submissive small fat bastards
does anything like this exist? maybe we're on the verge of finding new niche just like those bbc patreons did back in january
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>>8269094
You forgot to exclude latents in .npz files
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>>8269141
oh yeah i meant to delete those but it's past midnight i literally cant think correctly
unless you mean something else, in that case it's going over my head
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>>8267538
The open sores community is fully capable of sabotaging itself without outside help.
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>>8269113
My first post was in May so AI was definitely already hidden
>>8269125
All my post are pov stuff so idk about size difference but I definitely get more views the bigger the boobs are
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>>8269143
epic is not a part of "community"
he's just a boy who wants to be one of the "cool guys" and everyone is just too polite to tell him to fuck off
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>>8267717
baldiebox?
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why aren't you catboxxing cunny here?
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>>8269147
back in my day we would bully those kids until they behaved
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>>8269082
Okay... 16 epoch is a bit too much...
Let's see if it'll even work after 1 or 2.
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>>8269151
ganbatte
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>>8269137
I was just curious, I never were one of the original donators to begin with.
Btw never knew what kiwifarm was, now I regret looking it up ._.' if that's the level of pestering Jordach is rn dealing with, yeah best to leave him alone.
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>>8269153
>if that's the level of pestering Jordach is rn dealing with
Jordach isn't dealing with any pestering. The original poster was just insinuating that jordach has reached lolcow levels in the realm of chrischan because of his mental illness
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>>8269153
no one is bothering Jordach beside his inner demon
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>>8269165
twisting that dick at the speed of light
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>>8269165
cutie
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>>8269168
Not sure if it's skill issue but the afterimage / motion blur tag is really random. I wish I could specify horizontal / vertical or something because a lot of them come out looking like a DBZ move
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>>8269172
didnt you already do this gen a long time ago?
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>>8269172
love those two, effort-kun
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>>8269170
Probably not a skill issue, its hard for the ai to understand things like direction
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>>8269165
Great eyes...
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>>8269174
good memory.
yep, wanted to see if I could clean up some of the blur and add mixed lipstick marks, which didn't work in 1.5 days.
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>>8269149
https://files.catbox.moe/octktg.png

>>8269178
which artist does these round light highlights like those on their tits?
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slop , but interesting pose
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>>8268983
based thanks
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>>8269186
haha smol pp
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>>8269178
>wanted to see if I could clean up some of the blur
Didn't work out it seems
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>>8269188
thats a good summary
happy to see that outfit work better than on pony
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>>8269188
that's the good type of slop
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Could've ended so well if the MC realised what he had
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>>8269188
>black african man, dark-skinned male, huge size difference, very dark skin, interracial
never change naicucks
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>>8269196
I didnt gen this, was looking inside it's prompt. But couldnt find decent tags that triggered that pose
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>>8269195
is that hews?
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>>8269170
yeah it happens a lot https://litter.catbox.moe/8ebxd8.jpg
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>>8269198
Surprised you noticed, yeah it is. Couldn't think of an artist I wanted Ikaros to be drawn in the style of so I just looked at my twitter and picked the first one lol
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>>8269201
Not sure if it's agood thing I can recognise him by the ass/pussy/anus...
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why is it so fucking shiny
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>>8269205
it's nai (v1)
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>>8269205
This is fucking shiny
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>>8269208
AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY EYES
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>>8268138
use the newest noob model, and put "solo focus,female rimming male"

https://files.catbox.moe/wh7qmo.png
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can vpred do ces?
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>>8269208
based
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>>8269197
>was looking inside it's prompt
the prompt is a mess (as usual with bbc grifters) and will give you all sorts of different poses
i actually remember doing similar pose but that's only reliably done with inpaint
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>>8268708
boxo?
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>>8269216
Yeah. Locally generating via lora a lot easier. This prompts too random
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>>8267778
>mix of nai v1 and nai v3 quality tags
>random shit
s m h my head
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>it actually managed do to a proper horn grab without fucking it up too much
Impressive.
Also these backgrounds suck dick, holy shit.
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Does NAI recognise hikage_eiji's artstyle prompt?
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>>8269208
>>8269212
shinybox? I need more shiny in my gens
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>>8269203
I can recognize his shitty shading, the face would make it quite obvious tho
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>>8269195
The hdg favorite, yd, just captures the spiral hair ribbons and layered hair better
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>>8269221
looking at nai metadata on aibooru always leaves me scratching my head. it often doesnt adhere to prompt, but by the same token sometimes realigns perfectly coherently on something vaguely related, like a tornado lifting a whole house and depositing it in oz
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>>8269177
Sex with eyes...
>>8269200
Yeah I'd say about 75% of the time it'll be that horizontal one where it's just her shaking the shit out of the penis. I assume because most motion lines are horizontal with sex positions or something.
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>>8269225
entire prompt is in the filename, lol
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>>8269230
Woah... the one eye to rule them all, that's one nice pusseye...
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>>8269191
:(
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>>8269234
the fuck is wrong with her pits
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>>8269239
they are fermented, imagine the aroma
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>>8269231
I can't see the full filename
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>>8269165
box for tornado handjob
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>>8269247
i saw stealth metadata
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>>8269247
https://litter.catbox.moe/iapbwd.png
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Western art is disgusting
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What’s “gooknai”? Is it NAI? Are people really paying for it?
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>>8269246
https://files.catbox.moe/moutl4.png
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>>8269259
It's free, but will take your anal virginity
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>>8269258
And yet all eastern art is heavily influenced and inspired by it. Curious.
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>>8269259
worst korean government paid to train kohaku to completion
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>>8269263
kys cathag
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>>8269263
kys cathagretard
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>inb4 is in room with us right now reply
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>>8269215
autism mix. home. at least it was until i slopped everything up
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>>8269267
is this inb4 reply in the room with us right now?
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>>8269270
they're always watching
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>>8269234
Is this just neisan?
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Why yes. I am here 24/7.
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>>8269259
>>8269262
>>8269264
Kohaku-XL? Is that it?
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>>8269260
very based, thanks a lot
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>>8269277
gmt+2
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>>8269273
are they a voyeur?
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>>8269278
It's called "Pony Diffusion v6", go check it out!
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>>8269277
The (You)s are verbally abusing you while you caress their dicks... That's a high level of masochism.
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Are we using the noobnai vpred test or the episolon-pred 0.5 version on civitai? I've messed with both kinda hard to tell which is better.
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>>8269286
Anon is just being tsundere.
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>>8269287
vpred was just a personal experiment by euge, so it is an older version than the 0.5 one
better to wait for vpred to catch up
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>>8269289
Alright, thanks for the spoonfeed.
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i blame koikatsuslop fag
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Does comfyui support stealth metadata?
also is there any program for ai images browsing? Would be godly if it supports stealthinfo too but i doubt...
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Is there a way to enable v-pred on Forge?
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>>8269298
catboxanon forked stealthpng to comfy here https://github.com/catboxanon/comfyui_stealth_pnginfo
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>>8269298
>Does comfyui support stealth metadata?
it doesn't but an anon made a node for it
https://github.com/catboxanon/comfyui_stealth_pnginfo
I haven't tried it myself though
>also is there any program for ai images browsing? Would be godly if it supports stealthinfo too but i doubt...
Not sure what you're asking for. Are you asking for a repository of various AI images people have made? Because there is an AI booru https://aibooru.online/
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why is the koikatsu game style so hard for illustrious to learn
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>>8269300
Lazy way is to pull latest then add some metadata to the safetensor file by using the python here:

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/16567

I didn't bother before so I don't know how to do it manually in forge.
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>>8269305
I feel like Illustrious seems to have some styles that it just has a hard time learning for whatever reason.
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>>8269303
Cute style! Mind sharing?
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>>8269276
yes
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>>8269305
because it's a transphobic model
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>>8269305
That kind of looks like promotional art for the older Illusion games though, neat find.
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>>8269305
because it's a good model
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>>8269305
Illustrious removed 3d and realistic shit from the training set
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>>8269308
https://files.catbox.moe/61z1kb.png
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>>8269314
based
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do illu loras work on noob?
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>>8269320
ye
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would be funny if on halloween instead of kids going around collecting candy it was their moms collecting cum haha
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>>8269324
based doujin idea haver
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>>8267917
Post some. It's always funny to see.
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>>8267993
>infill is good, but only if you want 100% rerolled areas
But it's actually really good at that.
>director tools
Free with opus if you are within the usual resolution limits, except for background removal.
>many characters just don't exist on nai
Mainly those posted after September 2023.
>they often have outages
Not that many lately.
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>>8269306
dang it works, thanks!
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>>8269324
that bucket is a proof she's really good at it...
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nai shill has arrived
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So this is the power of Novel AI Diffusion V3!
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>>8268130
It's FLUX
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>>8269350
cute pantsu
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https://catbox.moe/c/f7opjh
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>>8269350
>this will be 35$ a month plus tip
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>>8269350
>>8269353
local won, it's over for naisissies
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>>8269350
Reminds me of that one scene from Suspiria.
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>>8269350
it's sdxl
it's sdxl
it's all sdxl
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>>8269324
how in the world did you get it to gen a bucket of cum
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>hay look at pathetic naishills how bad their model is-
it's sdxl
>ermm... hehe at least illustrious is better at-
it's sdxl
>uhhh well nothing pony can't do-
it's sdxl
>ummm when noob ends it's training we'll have the best local model avail-
it's sdxl
>b-b-b-but
it's sdxl

it's sdxl
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>>8269371
it's nai
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>>8269372
remember that the world would be a better place without you
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>>8269373
Nobody likes you schizo, your mere existence is a burden
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>>8269372
Who are you quoting
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>>8269371
it's definitely inpainted
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>>8269303
>Not sure what you're asking for
Imagine a local gallery but for your ai generated images, that can show prompts and stuff so i can browse all my stuff and find "that one" thing
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sdxl sisters im LAIONing
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Crazy noob can do tentacle blowjobs
https://files.catbox.moe/0ubuzb.png
https://files.catbox.moe/9nx67n.png
https://files.catbox.moe/6orfkz.png
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>>8269382
What are some fetishes that help determine closet faggots?
>rimjobs
>mmf
>penis awe
>smegma
Anything else?
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Transparent babydoll works well, but it's hard to make it be consistent on its design.
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>>8269371
cum in container, simple as
>>8269383
nope
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>>8269387
bukkake, cum focus i think
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>>8269387
>hairy anus
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>>8269389
how tf did it understand that the cum had to be in the pumpkin? Incredible also catbox plz
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>>8269387
was mentioned many times but lolifags are as homo as it gets. literally attracted to lack of female features
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"orks."
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>>8269387
anything involving a penis
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>banned for saying jeetmix
anddd thats my tipping point, I'm going to shit up these threads harder than ever. nonstop spam, inflammatory posting, false flagging, insulting every gen, and generally turning it into an even more miserable shithole until people get the message and move on. this place has become infested by trannitors who deserve to be killed. I enjoyed posting in good faith and laughing about civitai but an innocent comment about shitty illustrious mixes is enough for a ban now? nah, you're all going down with me.
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>>8269395
>retard who can't think critically overlaps loli with toddlercon

https://files.catbox.moe/cg41fk.jpg

ah yes so masculine indeed
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>>8269399
>>8269397
Yeah it's already obvious you started shitting up thread, buddy. Just don't shoot up a school and it's fine :)
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>>8269399
We just need to bully faggots like 8269382 out of the thread and I guarantee the quality will improve immensely.
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>>8269399
You have been trying to derail the thread for quite some time, nogen-kun.
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>>8269389
impressive
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>>8269395
this sounds like a troon porn argument
>i-it's not gay guys they have female features
the only thing that matters is if they have a real pussy or not
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>>8269404
samefag
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>>8269400
That looks like a little boy tho?
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>>8269395
This is why fucking shotas is one of the manliest things a man can do. You're STEALING their nubile masculinity and converting it into femininity in their body.
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>>8269395
so true cathag /ss/ fan! we /ss/ fans literally are the peak hetero! btw don't you love how cute the boys on your gens are?
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>>8269399
I got one for saying that pedos are gay
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>>8269399
>>8269412
So you literally admit to ban evasion? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>8269412
>gaypedo janny got triggered
lmao
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>>8269414
just don't break the rules retard
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>sending the generated pic to img2img and playing around with noise and cfg before upscaling
I have trouble finding the correct cfg to noise ratio, any advise?
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>>8269399
why is it so whiny
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>>8269406
You need pussy and female features for it to be straight
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>>8269418
it's cathag
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>>8269399
>innocent comment
>racist insult
Do you listen to yourself?
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Funny how one can post in this board for years and not get banned even once.
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i tried training a lora on illu to use in noob but it comes out pretty blurry. should i be training on noob 0.5 or am i being a noob?
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>>8269427
>bragging about being a goody two shoes
whatever, four-eyes
breaking rules is cool and being cool gets you chicks
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>>8269428
stop listening to shills and train on pony
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I like this Murata-like style but the contrast looks very artificial, I wonder how I could make it more anime without it becoming aom-like slop
https://files.catbox.moe/5wovn3.png
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Before I take the plunge and pay for a month of NAI for $25, their FAQ page suspiciously leaves out any mention of censorship either positive or negative. It's my understanding the platform is supposed to be uncensored. Has anyone in the thread used it and can vouch for it?
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>>8269428
You're probably experiencing the same affect that >>8268989 did. Training on the same base model you're using will fix it.
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>>8269427
the secret is not being literally mentally ill and with zero self-awareness caused by schizophrenia
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>>8269432
are you stupid?
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>>8269427
yeah it's not that hard you just have to add (((huge breasts))) to all your gens
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>>8269432
You can use pony for free
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>>8269432
it is indeed uncensored, and a very valid option for people without a powerful pc, but remember that there's no way to make your payment options truly anonymous.
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>>8269438
you mean a valid option for people who want to use the best model?
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>>8269387
What's wrong with penis awe, retard?
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It's only now that I realized that Illustrious only knows how to do lolis well, generating any style that's different from the standard Japanese anime/manga, he does it in a garbage way.
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>>8269439
>>8269441
why is it so blurry
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>looking back
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>>8269441
>what's wrong with lusting for cock
least obvious faggot
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>>8269428
as noob's training continues it will stop working as well with illust loras as it diverges
>>8269427
it took years but i finally got a random loli ban a month ago
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>>8269432
just be aware that their model was trained with racial bias in mind to only generate blacked images
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>>8269445
I mean, that's some strong prompt adherence right there
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>>8269446
>he self inserts as the girl lusting for the cock
you're projecting your homosexuality anon
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>>8269443
>>8269445
it's gook
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>>8269452
I always self-insert as a girl, what's wrong with that
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>>8269431
add some flat shading artists? or find some artists that do flatter shading on faces but retain softer shaded bodies
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>>8269431
Throw quasarcake in the negatives
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>>8269449
if you prompt for nyantcha that's all you deserve
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>>8269452
>generates cock focused images
some one sure is projecting but it ain't me
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>>8269454
That's fine, you just shouldn't throw rocks in your glasshouse
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I got banned concerningly often for shitting on pedos, jews and seatizens
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Anything that makes me hard isn't gay because I'm not gay, simple as.
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>>8269461
keep your racist bs on /b/
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if imagery with penises makes you hard you're gay. simple as.
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>>8269461
being antagonistic bruh what are you doing?
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>>8269324
>>8269389
boxes for either of these?
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>concerning yourself with what other men are generating/masturbating to on a mongolian macrame message board
that's the real gay right there
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>>8269462
>>8269464
>>8269459
>>8269446
(you)
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>>8269428
The main issue I have with noob is getting it to stop showing the damnable patreon logo.
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>>8269461
We love SEAchads here
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>>8269451
tomu \(tomubobu\), jaggy lines, oekaki
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>>8269468
>Using the ugliest, flattest amanojaku known to man as an avatar
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>>8269468
denial is just one step on your journey, closet fag. you'll get over it eventually
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>>8269469
look at your gens before posting jesus christ
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>>8269441
>>8269468
/aco/
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>>8269476
That's what noob gives me.
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>>8269459
>he can't fathom that the focus isn't on the cock but on the girl being into (You)r cock
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>>8269400
>>8269421
Everyone's BORN female and only develop MALE characteristics later in life.
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>>8269478
Use a better model? Autismmix is still meta.
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We love /aco/ here
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>>8269484
>>8269485
is every poster here fat?
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>>8269482
I am merely testing what some anon is saying and corroborating his results. Noob gives blurry results, and not even passable ones at that. This thread is more for learning and experimentation.
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>>8269481
Sounds like something a tranny on puberty blockers would say
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>>8269456
damn this did the trick, thanks!
The problem is that this artist really destroys the fingers for some reason, ugh
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>>8269151
>>8269082
Here's the first checkpoint, the end of the first LR cycle and epoch 2
Tried a few artists and it definitely picked up the style. You can you use asuna prompt for a proper A/B test to compare it to the base illu and your bake.
https://gofile.io/d/YM9DXv
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>>8269479
(You) don't have a 12 incher lil baby dick faggot ;)
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>>8269481
Yeah, like 3 months after the egg gets implanted, after the cell taco phase.
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>>8269493
You can also lower cfg to 4 or if you don't want to, add cfg rescale. It seems that vpred requires lower cfg.
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>>8269493
Yeah I found there are a few specific artists in illustrious that are super heavily weighted, quasarcake being one of them. Anytime I ever want to mess with skin textures, I throw that in the negatives and play with weights
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>>8269485
>1boy, large penis, hairy male, veiny penis, muscular male, precum, precum drip, muscular male
anon was right, you guys are gay as fuck
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>>8269499
Ah shit I had muscular male in there twice, thanks.
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>>8269495
Yeah I do
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>1girl, 1boy, large penis, hairy male, veiny penis, muscular male, precum, precum drip, muscular male, manly male, muscular man, very huge man, hairy manly armpits
i'm straight guys im prompting hentai
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>>8269497
it does indeed reduce the artificial contrast but is it me or it follows the prompt less, with lower cfg?

>>8269498
I'll try to remember it, amazing tip, thanks anon
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>>8269510
At least it's not loli who look just like boys!!!!
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Does anybody have a good toml for Illustrious style loras? I was using fishine anon's but they keep giving me mangled anatomy. My datasets worked fine when I baked them with pony so I don't think they're the problem.
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How do you create an image of mature women, and she doesn't have the face of a 10 year old girl?
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>>8269526
put child, loli in the negatives
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>>8269514
Cfg rescale is supposed to solve it. Lowers the contrast while maintaining prompt adherence.
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>>8269519
just use pony retard
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>use pony
stopped reading there
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>>8269529
damn I had forgotten about it! Thanks, what a difference
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>>8269537
rope
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>>8269526
ngmi
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>1boy, dark skin, dark-skinned male, bandaid on face, bara, rainbow hair, chest tattoo, ear piercing, green eyes, grin, jewelry, lifeguard, looking at viewer, male focus, male swimwear, multicolored hair, muscular, muscular male, navel, necklace, nipples, pectorals, large pectorals, nipple piercing, short hair, smile, tattoo, teeth, two-tone hair, whistle, whistle around neck, large penis, huge penis, black penis, veiny penis, precum drip, (1girl, cum on body:0.1)
not gay
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>>8269125
Definitely big breasts, posts with girls with large breasts got more views. Also I found out elevens hate tanlines. But for content wise my best stuff was big breasts / underboob content of all things, far and away the highest view counts so yeah it might be some dom hags thing.
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Why are you losers so tribalistic?
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>>8269551
>>
>schizo gets banned for breaking rules
>goes on a shitposting rampage
Its all so tiresome
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>>8269556
>Uhh just live and let live, bro
Kys fgt
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>>8269559
>he fell for the divide and conquer scheme
the elite club won (you aren't invited)
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>>8269562
kys hippie retard
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>>8269544
RoPE is a technique for language model context windows, don't think it applies to anything used in this thread.
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woah big bazonga mommy milkers tetona leche humina humina etc etc.
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>>8269563
you sound mad
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>>8269566
bigger
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>>8269565
It applies to your neck.
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>>8269566
wew
I want to stick my tongue in her inverted nipples
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>>8269566
>>8269568
>>8269573
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Okay, so it seems like NAI definitely isn't as good as local gens. But had to RMA my GPU so I'm stuck with it for a month probably. How's pic related look to everyone? Any advice for improving quality, especially getting better hands?
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>>8269576
Just use colab?
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>>8269576
just use pony with astra's discord bot, it's good enough for a month. NAI is unusable shill trash
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>>8269576
>Okay, so it seems like NAI definitely isn't as good as local gens.
naiggers not gonna like this...
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>>8269576
you're in your early stages of ai, grind. NAI is a very good beginner tool
>>
Why does Stephen regret his decision to study in Paris?
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>>8269576
no, you're just extremely new. nai3 is currently the best anime nsfw model by far
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>>8269578
qrd? does it use pony or autismmix?
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>>8269432
They're a bunch of anons from /aids/ and founded the service in response to AIDungeon introducing censorship and reading stories. It's very privacy focused and uncensored. Images aren't even saved in your account and your history is gone if you reload, so keep that in mind.
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>>8269576
Go to aibooru and look up artist mixes, base look is pretty ass but there's gold to be had once you get good
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>>8269576
>that prompt
if you're not trolling just steal prompts from people that know what they're doing
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>>8269586
base pony but it's really good with skilled prompting and costs much less then nai.
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>>8269591
vpred?
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>>8269594
It's nai so yes vpred
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>>8269580
Unfortunately I'm really not, I've been using local gens for years but I'm not paying for another 3090 so I'm screwed until I get it back.

>>8269583
It seems like the NAI model has a problem I've seen with a lot of anime models, that the face ends up a lot flatter than the body and ends up not matching. Using ADetailer seems to help with that sometimes, but not always. Any advice for using it?

>>8269590
Oh! If the model recognizes artists by default then that's an advantage it has over PonyXL/AutismMix. Thanks for mentioning that, I'll do that now.

Pic related is same prompt adding a bunch more years to the negatives, seems to help add more shading/depth.
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>>8269591
catbox me up doc, amazing gen
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>>8269576
Use commas.
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>>8269597
protip: add this to the start of every nai prompt
artist:j.k., artist:blushyspicy, {{{artist: yd orange maru}}}, artist:Cutesexyrobutts, artist:redrop,realistic,2023
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>>8269566
Me gustan mucho las leches de las vaquitas con tetitas gorditas
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Alright, so after yesterday I at least have the thing up and running locally. I'm still clueless about what many of the settings mean, but I'm sure that will come with time, for now I can manage to get pictures of anime girls that mostly adhere to the prompt I put in, so we're making progress
The next steps, from what I understand, are learning how to do artist mixes to get a reliably style I like, and then learning about inprinting, which is a feature I haven't touched yet. And also to fiddle with LoRA's on models that aren't noob
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>>8269601
Also, use the default "Human Focus" UC instead of that shit you got in there
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>>8269603
Where's nyantcha?
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my webui keeps crashing (or hanging up for nearly a minute) whenever I want to switch models, is there a fix for this?
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>>8269566
Why is it so boobs?
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>>8269604
>7 fingers
ebin
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which prompts help me achieve a nice clean pupil?
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>>8269607
dead in a ditch hopefully
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>>8269605
>>8269608
not your personal army
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>>8269566
box?
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>>8269611
Neg heart-shaped pupils and/or @_@
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Is there a way to sort search results on AIbooru? It'd be great to see what the most upvoted images on the site are.

>>8269601
Commas take up tokens though, do they actually help?

>>8269603
Thanks, will steal that mix.

>>8269605
Also check out the "Extensions" tabs when you're ready for more advanced stuff. Go the "Available" there and click the "Load From" button to get a ton of possible extensions. The best one is probably ADetailer which can automatically inpaint faces, eyes, hands and such, but there are many others too.

>>8269608
That sounds like a VRAM issue. Try freeing up as much VRAM as you can by closing down everything else.
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>>8269613
I'm asking because github doesn't come up with any answers
>>8269616
I don't have much else running when I try to switch the model, but I notice that when it tries to switch before crashing my ram usage spikes
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>>8269597
>>8269601
>>8269606
Cleaned that up for you. Keep in mind that order is very important:
nsfw, 1boy, 1girl, character, copyright, artists, everything else
You can deviate from it (stuff at the front is stronger), but this should be the basic template you follow.

>>8269616
>Commas take up tokens though, do they actually help?
Yes, use them.
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>>8269616
fuck off shill and take your blurry garbage with you
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>>8269616
order:score
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>>8269616
she cute
now post her getting railed
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>>8269616
she cute
now post her getting naked
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I am retarded
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>>8269622
>now post her getting naked
and getting fucked, by a dog
forgot to add
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>>8269624
kys falseflagging furnigger
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>>8269616
>>8269618
>>8269621
>>8269622
>>8269624
dont need to show screenshots its that obvious.
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fuck off illusion schizo
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>>8269618
That definitely does look a lot more show accurate, thank you kindly for showing that off! Did you do anything different than changing the prompts? I'm stuck genning at a lower resolution than that to keep the unlimited gens for the month and don't want to hi-res anything until I get all the quality stuff worked out.

Also it seems like NAI's inpainting is more prone to issues, it kept wanted to add extra hands when inpainting the face here.

>>8269620
Fantastic, thank you very much! Will look there for artist mixes and such.
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Why so many schizos today? is kurumuz so scared of NAI getting dethroned?
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uh oh schizo meltie
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Are those schizos in the room with us right now?
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>>8269634
obviously thats why he sent the shitposters and "fake nai newfag"
this place is where literally everything in ai world happens and if nai makes it unusable they win. they already sent epic to ruin discords (despite them being mainly irrelevant compared to hdg)
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>>8269637
Always have been
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>>8269635
>from side paizuri
uh oh... local sissies, our response??
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so, we agree that noob is trash even with vpred
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>>8269644
yes, even angel agrees
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>>8269642
it's an img2img from based64 dumbass
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>>8269634
it's literally just >>8269382 having a melty after anon called out his faggotry
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>>8269616
Oh I already had that one installed, it's one of the first recommendations people provided me with
I'm trying to keep questions light because I'm sure it gets annoying hearing the same newbie confusion over and over, but I'm sure I'll have more to ask later
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>>8269645
Proof?
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>>8269650
i'm sure you're able to do a discord search yourself
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Pic related is a comparison with and without "masterpiece" in the positive prompt. Opinions on which looks better?

>>8269635
Thanks for sharing the catbox! I noticed that you had the artists there as "artist:INSERTNAMEHERE," is that how the NAI model was trained? I'm used to just doing "by ARTISTNAME" for local models.
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>>8269594
It's Noob 0.5, not even vpred.
>>8269600
I'll post it later (if I remember)
I've just gone out.
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>>8269655
Kek
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>v-pred

Will updating reforge get me this or I need to follow this step? >>8262778
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>>8269655
Anon, is that you on the right? Cute
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>>8269655
now post it in pony discord
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>>8269652
There's like a billion different trooncords, just post the screenshot
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>>8269655
The straightest /hdg/ anon.
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>>8269655
finally some hentai for straight men
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Sirs, I'm looking to expand my cunny characters wildcard.

I'm accepting submissions
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>>8269633
Changing the prompt and negs was the main thing. >>8269635 is a gen at base res with some artists and other things added. Just drag my image into NAI or https://novelai.net/inspect to compare settings.

>Also it seems like NAI's inpainting is more prone to issues, it kept wanted to add extra hands when inpainting the face here.
The inpainting works different from local inpainting. It completely rerolls the section you select (make sure to always enable the keep original image checkbox thing). It's also very sensitive to what is at the edge of the mask, so if you are trying to get rid of something, make the mask a little bigger to make sure it doesn't see anything of what you're trying to replace.

>>8269653
NAI uses "artist:ARTISTNAME", yes. Don't use masterpiece, NAI doesn't use that tag anymore. Read this: https://docs.novelai.net/image/qualitytags.html
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>>8269655
don't worry, there's a girl lusting on him off-screen so this is confirmed 100% heterosexual
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>>8269664
why is it so blurry
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>>8269667
it's turk
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>>8269657
reforge already supported v-pred (on dev_upstream), but if you want to use the Autodetection one with zsnr, updating to latest version of reforge makes it work without having to change anything (for that specific model, aka noobaiXLNAIXL_vPredTestVersion_Autodetection)
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>>8269657
don't use noob, it takes the soul of Illu
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>>8269664
You are very helpful anon! Thanks for this kind of advice, really appreciate it. Anything else come to mind as something that would be good to know for using NAI?
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>>8269494
how do i use it?
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>>8269672
>>8269673
>>8269667
funniest thread in months
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>>8269334
>But it's actually really good at that.
Yeah that's why I recognised it, I don't use infill at all so it's not good for my use case and likely some other % of users. When local beats SaaS in any capacity whatsoever, that also needs to be recognised.
NAI is SOTA anime, when SOTA is being contested we need to factor in everything, including wonky edge case uses.
>except for background removal.
Let's be honest it's kinda terrible having to pay anals for certain features on an unlimited plan, including the fast-lane stuff. It's enshittification by any other name.
I guess it's unsustainable for them which is understandable, just lame when local does a lot of it (lineart color, object removal, whatever) for free and unlimited to a decent degree of quality. NAI's "prompt -> inpaint" director thing is cool but it's imprecise, I'd rather just inpaint manually and precisely than mess about with inpaint prompt engineering that processes the entire image, ruining parts I didn't intend.
>Mainly those posted after September 2023.
Yeah, not an issue with local, same as above we need to recognise all shortcomings not matter how slight. This is SOTA, it should be held to the highest standard when the alternative is literally free.
>Not that many lately.
I want 0 outages, or 100% of outages compensated. This nonsense of "aw it was just CoreWeave" is not professional and isn't an issue locally. There have been times where it's happened over and over on the same day, or every day. Sure, it's less often now but that it happens at all is something they should have resolved a long time ago. If I'm paying for a service I want access to it when I feel like it.

I don't mind cutting NAI some slack, but that slack is getting really short these days as their lead evaporates.
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>>8269672
see? not gay in the slightest
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>>8269673
more
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>>8269474
it's momoura
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>put flat color in the prompt
>only colored skin even if you put it in negatives
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>>8269677
kill yourself
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>>8269672
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>>8269614
https://litter.catbox.moe/ij6brh.png
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It seems like all of the top rated stuff on AIbooru is either PonyXL or unsourced, which is not helping me find artists. Does anyone know really good artists or artist mixes?

>>8269679
Is bestiality allowed on /h/ ? Didn't see a thread for it and don't want to bother with the ban.
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>>8269677
>as their lead evaporates
lol
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>>8269675
That's a regular locon, extracted from the checkpoint - linear dim 64, conv dim 32.
You just drop it into the lora dir and use as a regular lora.
Trigger tags are the same as for the base uohhanon loras.
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>>8269686
Why not just search the novel_ai tag if you're looking specifically for NAI prompts
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>>8269677
>ruining parts I didn't intend.
Just use photoshop and layer mask the rest, bro.
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>>8269684
More, I can't stop laughing at this stupid shit
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>>8269694
he's so pretty~ delicious cock
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>>8269684
that's it. /hdg/ has peaked.
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More eldritch girl
https://files.catbox.moe/xshwvf.png
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>>8269641
I also keep a schizo under my desk to suck my dick
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>>8269681
I really suggest to just wait until they start training vpred for real. This version can be fun, but expecting consistently good results from it is asking too much.
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>>8269681
cute
beetrootbox?
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>>8269686
Since I took most of these mixes from /hdg/ or patreon grifters I don't really have an issue with sharing it.
https://files.catbox.moe/0ic7vb.txt
You can also go to somewhere like Gelbooru and just look at the artist tags and anyone that has over 200 images should work for the most part.
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>noob does furry concepts better than pony
lmao
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Anyone here trained a lora of their own cock to avoid the gay allegations? How many pictures would I need
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>>8269697
needs some brownian noise
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>>8269705
I just prompt onee-shota for that
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>>8269705
>avoid the gay allegations?
why do you care though
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>>8269697
kino
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>>8269703
You are fantastic anon! I'm actually looking at the highest scoring post from boorus to find artists like you said. Sometimes it can be hard to tell what's a recognized style and what's just random noise making a difference though. Pic related as an example comparison.
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>>8269697
nice, post moar
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>>8269702
https://files.catbox.moe/br8pvg.png
>>8269701
I know, but being a very weak minded gooner it still keeps me hooked with its potential.

Dopamine works at its maximum strength when it's not given at every single try, that's why to train dogs you don't have to reward them at every single executed command
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>>8269708
this. it's perfectly okay to be gay
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>>8269712
thanks
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>>8269686
>Is bestiality allowed on /h/ ? Didn't see a thread for it and don't want to bother with the ban.
I'm curious about this as well, nothing in the global or /h/ rules states directly that bestiality is forbidden, but janitors on /h/ might argue it belongs elsewhere like /b/ or /trash/ because it's close to furry or something. Any anons that can shed more light on this?
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>>8269721
transbians are cringe, sis.
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>>8269725
finally some good hentai
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>>8269725
anon... the earring becomes hair, you can do better
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>>8269725
RETURN TO PONY
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Holy ugliness. Imagine having half a year of only this, no wonder this place turned into depressive shithole.
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but enough about NAI
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>>8269686
>>8269719
To append my post, on the main rule page of 4Chan, both /aco/ and /d/ directly state that bestiality is not allowed on their boards. /d/'s 2nd rule:
>Images depicting bestiality, guro, scat, or generally seen to be "extreme" in nature are not to be uploaded.
/aco/'s 2nd rule:
> ...Images depicting bestiality, scat, or generally seen to be "extreme" in nature are not to be uploaded.

But nothing in /h/'s rules states posting bestiality is not allowed, only furry stuff. Sooo... Bestiality on /h/ is technically allowed?
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>>8269692
>Just use photoshop and layer mask the rest, bro.
I do this already with manual inpainting. their product is imprecise by default, I already use more precise tools.
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>>8269733
but it's even worse now that pony is gone?
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>>8269725
moar blacked hags please im gooning hard. preferably autismmix cant stand new models
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>>8269718
eyes and lighting effects are so good here holy fuck does it feel good to have lighting/glow effects actually rendered properly
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why is it so fried?
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it's not fried enough
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>>8269747
it's not pony
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>>8269743
based sensei taking the matter in his own hands
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>>8269746
just use pony with a lora bro
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someone here made a LORA of fellatrix for NoobAIxl, but didn't post it anywhere does anyone have a link?
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>>8269743
pretty nice composition, also what's the tag for the mask on the guy?
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>>8269743
(amputee:1.5)
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>>8269755
doodle sensei \(blue archive\)
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what illustrious model should I try?
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>>8269704
i can actually gen tailjobs on noob whereas pony barely could manage
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Teacher teacher, I have a question!
What does "lora" stand for?
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>>8269752
Yeah? Pony is a local model. If you can't achieve something with it, you only got yourself to blame. Local tools are vast and loras are extremely potent.
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>>8269759
>>>/aco/
ask there
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>>8269763
fuck off troll
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>>8269759
>characters look like midgets
>furniture somehow even smaller than the midgets
holy mother of slop
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>>8269759
Try 2.0 first
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>>8269767
Anon, you're a troll
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>>8269759
noob, smoothft,
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>>8269767
explain how redirecting /aco/ to /aco/ is trolling without sounding mad
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>>8269759
If you're looking for an honest answer, search for noob-ai xl on civitai. It's a good place to start.
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>>8269772
you sound mad
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Still just starting out. Noob with a basic nekoda prompt and adetailer gets some decent feet as is. Anyone have any better artist mix recommendations for soles?
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>>8269686
When browsing aibooru for prompts make sure to include "has:metadata". Those posts contain a textbox at the bottom with the full prompt. I don't know if sorting by highest score is very smart I'd imagine people have gotten better at prompting over time.
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>>8269778
>noob
>score 7 up in image
holy shit lol
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guys I can't wait for the day that AI stops doing melted details, imagine...
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>>8269778
Anon, you're not including score_7_up and other score tags in your prompt... Right? Those only work on pony and pony-based checkpoints. Use "masterpiece, best quality" instead.
Also don't use any source_x tags, those don't work either. For negatives use "low quality, worst quality, 4koma, multiple views" to start out with.
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>>8269781
It already did, just buy a NAI subscription.
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>>8269780
>>8269783
I have a genuine defense, I got my set up only yesterday and I lurked enough before hand to understand that asking "Hey guyz which model is the best???" would only be taken as bait, so instead I just downloaded multiple of the most popular ones and tested them myself. So I put a general prompt in and just switched between models without altering the prompt because I was too lazy
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>>8269768
Anon use your imagination. Maybe it's a teacher you for whatever reason shrunk to keep in a dollhouse, or reverse the idea and both of you are growing larger for some convoluted reason. We can't expect the machine to do all the work, some of the lewd you have to provide yourself.
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>>8269778
>wrong foot
you're a disgrace to us footfags
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>>8269786
All you need is base Noob eps 0.5 for now
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>>8269743
BAfags are delusional as fuck. Their artists would draw a ugly fat dark skinned bastard put a fucking paper on its face and call him sensei lmao
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>>8269781
box for the artist mix?
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>>8269791
>lolikon
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>>8269791
>only a warning for loli
you got lucky
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>>8269789
I appreciate the advice, but I saw enough talk going back and forth I figured I'd just tinker with them all and figure things out for myself the hard way. I get that I'm probably making things slower for myself by doing it this way instead of taking peoples advice, but I've always just been a very hands on learner, what can I say
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>>8269743
Why does this get deleted but the barafaggotry is still there? The girl had small breasts and was even covered
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>>8269786
That's does make more sense, and as a beginning I ofc won't judge you pr anything, was just trying to help!

Other stuff you can add to your positive prompt when using noob-ai is "absurdres, highres". Can also add other styles not necessarily tied to an artist like pencil \(medium\), oil painting \(medium\), minimalism, flat color, pastel \(medium\) etc.

Negatives you can also add monochrome greyscale, pale color, muted color, low contrast for more saturated colors. lowres, bad anatomy, bad hands might help with quality too.
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>>8269800
Because that's rules you dumb faggot?
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>>8269799
Much better approach than just box begging desu
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>>8269800
loli posters mass report anything they think they can get away with to continue their falseflag crusade against this general
the gay bara porn getting removed wouldnt assist their narrative
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>>8269800
Jannies are gay, more news at 10
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>>8269792
https://files.catbox.moe/8rca1n.png

let me know if you manage to sharpen up the eyes without mushing out the rest
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>>8269799
You're winning bigly and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. All good genners have tested everything a dozen times over.
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>>8269791
should have been a ban
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>>8269809
based
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>>8269812
quit whining
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>>8269812
>be small penis self-inserter
>everyone thinks I'm genning shota
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>>8269711
https://files.catbox.moe/w1t9hd.png
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Testing the impact of different years in the positive prompt. Didn't seem to make much of a significant difference until getting to 2021. Does anyone use any years in their prompts?
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>>8269778
laserflip is pretty good with feet, this pic was quicky gen'd with them and other generic slop artists
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>>8269818
scary...
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>>8269825
impressive. very nice.
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>>8269827
>Good with feet
>Posts that shit
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>>8269826
It looks like you're using NAI, the advantage of using years is that they can be combined with artist tags. So if an artist's style has changed over time, tagging the specific time period you prefer their style will pull it in that direction.
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>>8269818
Would
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>>8269817
>7 inch
>medium girth
>have hurt girls IRL
>(small penis) to make 2d images that look realistic
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>>8269812
>>8269817
How do you gen small penis and non muscular male pov? Don't care if shota or not I just want a thinner male frame without the kind of arms I strive towards in the gym. Do you need a lora cause I'm having no luck doing it on NAI with the tag no matter the emphasis. Putting veiny, girthy, and huge penis in negs just makes it harder to get any penis at all and there's few examples on the booru.
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>>8269826
Use only one year tag. Using multiple will just dilute the effect. You are right though, recent years are pretty similar. If you put in something like 2014, you'll see a big change though.
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>>8269827
This is a man
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why do all the gens here look so bad compared to civit?
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>>8269843
it's his transbian self insert
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>>8269844
we save our good posts for civitai for that sweet Buzz
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>>8269841
That was a very good point and it definitely makes more of a difference for sure! Still not sure how to feel about which one looks the best though.
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>>8269844
post examples
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>>8269837
>18cm/ 7" length
>14cm/ 5.5" girth
>not even pressing to bone
>will most likely never use it
>sph fetish
What a life
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>>8269851
Just treat them as different styles you can use, and like how >>8269833 said.
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Request anchor
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>>8269855
>18cm
what a dicklet
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>>8269857
1girl pleasuring herself with a candy cane and then sucking it off
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>>8269681
give her horns and you get a cute oni
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>>8269857
requesting (masterpiece, highres, best quality) advice. i want to train an illustriousxl lora on an artist who's style has changed alot over time, would it be a good idea to add 'old', 'recent', 'newest' or 'year 2024', 'year 2023' tags to the dataset?
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>>8269857
>that picture
LMAO
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>>8269857
Alright +2. That's actually a little funny, made me chuckle
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>>8269857
1girl, standing, looking at viewer
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>>8269857
Can I request anons find an image that was posted in this thread and give it a single compliment? :)
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>>8269868
avoid using already trained tags for this purpose
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>>8269857
A cute couple floating and having sex in zero gravity inside a space station floating above a planet, where said planet can be seen through the window. Fluids like sweat and pussy juice is floating around them
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If I don't get into the highlights this time, I'm going to kill myself and put your name on the suicide note. Choose wisely.
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>>8269873
ywn make it to the highlights
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>>8269873
careful or you'll summon Le Critique
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>>8269873
I always compliment gens I like
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>>8269790
Actually this is a good idea. I'll start doing it so I can avoid people calling me a cuck
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>>8269873
but there's no image worth complimenting?
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>>8269691
nice bendy pose >>8269873
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>>8269874
that is a good point, thank you anon
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>>8269888
you weren't supposed to samefag
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>>8269880
fuck don't name namefags that makes them appear like Beetlejuice or skinwalkers
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>>8269891
sad!
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>>8269865
I have unlimited NAI gens so I want to make the most of them, I can't promise quality though.
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>>8269868
If style change is noticeable between years, and if there are enough images for each style by the same artist, why not train seperate loras for each? One for their newer style and older style, etc.
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>>8269894
Sir, why is it melting?
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>>8269894
Just as an FYI, you can just upload NAI images directly to 4chan and it retains metadata, you don't have to use the catbox extension
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>>8269893
>he found the (You) toggle in 4chanx
impressive!
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>>8269857
Lost your way, little fuzzy? Here, let me help you out: >>>/trash/blacked
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>>8269895
>why not train seperate loras for each?
i wanted to try something cool
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>>8269875
No idea how to get the zero-g cum effect, but gave this a shot.

>>8269897
Thanks for the heads up! Since I usually local gen catboxing everything is just a reflex.
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>>8269857
Requesting a list of the best hentai artists you know that will be recognized by models
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>>8269905
why is there a panties on her hands
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>>8269905
Catbox?
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>>8269844
cause we are missing the secret sauce (((((amazing masterpiece, beautiful perfect image, super hot sexy, perfect flawless hot sexy ass, greatest image ever)))))
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>>8269909
>>8269910
it's inpainted
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>>8269909
Humiliation thing, it's hot. Shows off her dirty panties to anyone using her. And imagine her wet spot rubbing against her hair.
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>>8269904
Not bad anon! Didn't actually expect anyone to take my request seriously.

My method for doing zero g fluids is just to draw quickly as floating blobs of appropriate color in a paint program, then I paint over them with inpaint at low denoise. Add "bubble,[liquid name],floating" to prompt.
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>>8269915
Kinda weird bro ngl
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>>8269916
i recall some schizo meme tinkering i did with pony
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>>8269916
Using NAI while my GPU is being RMA'd and need to get good with it, figured I might as well do requests in the meanwhile. I don't think I can img2img for free though even at the highest level $25 I paid for, so that sucks. Good to know that technique though, thanks for explaining.

Here's another shot adding "bubble,cum,floating" to the prompt like you mentioned. It did add generic bubbles at least.
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>>8269913
Bloody bitch why you break my PC bastard!!
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I really want to get better eyes from NAI. Usually I use ADetailer for eyes, but with NAI's inpainting it's not working out well. What do people think about the "cute eyes" tag? Yay or nay?
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your commas, retard?
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>>8269931
use artist tags idiot
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>>8269936
But that's plagiarism.
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>>8269931
There is extension for NAI for a1111 (and i think forge?)
You can use only masked inpainting to enhance detail, or adetailer like normal.
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>>8269924
>I don't think I can img2img for free though even at the highest level $25 I paid for, so that sucks.
You can, as long as the resolution is at or below 1024*1024 pixels.
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your noodles, retard?
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>>8269931
Make sure to use human focus UC preset.
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I'm gay
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my noodles? dead, of course
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>>8269277
based catbro
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>>8269943
Yeah, we know
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>>8269943
That's nice anon! And nothing wrong in that.
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>>8269894
based thanks
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>>8269277
The only good poster left
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>>8269950
this but unironically
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>>8269839
try putting muscular male, mature male in the negs
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>>8269950
this but unironically
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>>8269943
lol ur gay
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>>8269922
absolute Cinema
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>>8269857
Sex
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Sir, a penis has entered the building.
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>>8269955
good
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>>8269959
we all love dicks here newfag
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>>8269955
>That dross watermark in the lower left corner
Based.
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I'm not a newfag, friend?
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Don't you ever get tired of shitposting every day?
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>>8269968
lol
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>>8269955
What's the artist mix? I'm trying to get clean outline style.
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>>8269970
That was literally just a quick slop in NAI, dross was the only one I'm pretty sure
Had to fight for my life to get it to stop giving him tits though
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What about jordach, why does he wear the fursuit?
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>>8269972
>Had to fight for my life to get it to stop giving him tits though
Wouldn't be a problem in pony
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>>8269968
i come here daily and i haven't posted a gen in over a year
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>>8269942
Yes, thanks to the anon who directed me to the documentation of what that includes, I've been including it in the negative prompt.

>>8269940
>>8269939
That is good to know! I didn't see a way to actually inpaint in the NAI web interface, but I have a plugin for A1111 so could use the img2img tab there if it works.

>>8269936
Been testing tags and mixes, but not sure which ones are good. What do you think is the best?

Testing artists I've noticed NAI has the same problem a lot of anime models do: the faces tend to have a flat anime look separate from the rest of the image, so they can look out of place. There's a few in pic related that show that.
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>>8269975
also isn't a problem for nai if you're not retarded
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>>8269977
>that mismatch between body and face
ugh
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>>8269922
portraitbox?
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>>8269913
kino
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>>8269972
Cute, would smash.
If you're looking for more artists that draw cute femine heterosexual boys try 2n5 or po-ju. Maybe Nagano Rira but there will be a lot of text in gens.
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>>8269976
King. Fuck gensissies
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>>8269975
I just use NAI for quick and dirty sloppa stuff anon, don't take it as a deceleration of superiority or anything
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>>8269976
based
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>>8269985
why are you responding to a shartposter as if their comment had any sort of actual sentiment behind it
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>>8269976
based!
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Unholy babies
https://files.catbox.moe/v0hi4n.png
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>>8269977
>That is good to know! I didn't see a way to actually inpaint in the NAI web interface
The second icon from the right above the image, next to the arrow one is the inpaint function. The magic wand, fourth from the right, is I2I.
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>>8269972
Put 1boy at the front and otoko no ko earlier. Position is stronger than emphasis.
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>>8269991
I'm not sure if it was on purpose, but the eggs looking like a black hole is a very nice touch
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>>8269991
noob is so good at schizo gens like this
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i really wish the liru shitposter would die already
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Serious question, why do threads seem to slow down when close to image limit? Or does this have more to do with hours during the day?
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>>8270000
Literally who?
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>>8270003
Nobody wants to waste images because the cutoff for highlights is usually around image ~280 or so.
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>>8269913
God, this feels almost nostalgic
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>>8270007
nice
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Where is EPIC? I miss him in the 'cord...
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I love small cock worshipers
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>>8270003
What? Are you eager to post your highlights uh, fag
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what you gaize use to caption your datasets?
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>>8270008
Huh, interesting that someone managed to figure that out by looking at highlights. Even though people tend to flame the highlighter poster (though I admit the selection has gotten much better recently)
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>>8270016
vit-large/eva2-large
But I mainly tag manually, using taggers to get some grasp on what to tag
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>>8270014
>I love cock
we know
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>>8270003
I could spam my random muscle girl sloppa to get thus there, but that'd probably be considered bad form
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>>8270003
I'm genning /ss/ right now, sorry
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>>8270027
Then we are stuck here for all eternity
...or until text limit is reached. Is there a text limit?
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>>8270019
>vit-large/eva2-large
what do you use to run it? python script with transformers or something else?
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>>8270031
Mainly BDTM
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I have been out of loop for a long time, can I still use Forge? or should I install reForge instead?
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>>8270023
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>>8270033
>can I still use Forge
Yes
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>>8270033
Use comfy
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>>8270032
>BooruDatasetTagManager
i wasn't aware of this, i'll give it a try, thanks
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>>8270034
God middle finger is such a good tag. Can barely resist putting it in everywhere
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can someone post image of hot milf eating beans, but only do it if they want to, i'm not forcing anyone to do it.
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>>8269339
Box?
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>>8270045
very hot sexy hentai fuck
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>>8270016
All auto taggers are pretty garbage.
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>>8270040
It's great, I'm glad it works so consistently
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>>8270003
It's a good time to cool off.
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Best Illustrious Shitmix?
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>>8270054
Noob but I wouldn't call it a shitmix
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Question for the thread: have you ever used a famous mangaka or anime artist for your gens? If so which ones and how did they turn out?

>>8269993
Oh I see! You actually have to generate the image in the Webui before it displays the options. I'm actually using A1111's interface with a plugin that calls the NAI API since it lets me do ADetailer and wildcards and such.
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>>8270033
Just use A1111, it's the most consistently supported of all of them.
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>>8270058
Define famous.
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New Thread:

>>8270060
>>8270060
>>8270060
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>>8270058
Asanagi, obviously.
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>>8270058
Gomu
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>>8269104
https://files.catbox.moe/1wn93a.png
already scapped them but i managed to fish this out of the recycling bin, which should be similar enough to work with
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>>8269133
box please?
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>>8269228
box?
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>>8269305
its just not trained in v0.1. pretty sure angel has posted some 3d in cord
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>>8269847
Box?
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>>8270513
https://litter.catbox.moe/x68a53.png
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>>8270519
thanks king
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>>8270522
You bet
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>>8269548
cumbox pls
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>archived
>no new thread

It's over
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they nuked us, gg
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>>8271187
>Non Dr head fix: proper black, nice composition
>Dr head fix: ugly color issues that make it look like epspred, random nonsensical light source, flowers randomly coming out of the side of the image in a nonsensical way
How the fuck can any of you look at this and in good faith believe it's superior, what the fuck were they thinking? THESE are the people trying to take over noobxl training? Holy fuck, we're doomed
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>>8271254
linking my post about kohya deep shrink and controlnet because i think it's useful to know
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How does a newer thread gets archived faster than the older ones?
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>>8271262
Jannies are faggots, like usual
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Tony SSS: My theory is that to make complex costumes work in a character lora I need 7 repeats on those folders
Also Tony: WHY ARE MY COSTUMES NOT WORKING?! IT'S NOT MY DATASET REEEE
he actually makes EPIC seem tolerable holy
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>>8271260
good morning epic
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wait what the fuck does this mean that the images i posted last thread wont be in the new thread's highlights? are you saying i wasted a fucking image????
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migrate

>>8271264
>>8271264
>>8271264
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>>8271260
i like the right the most, prompt itself probably needs work too
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>>8271266
Please redeem the licking of my ass bluvoll sir
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>>8271260
yeah I don't get it either, the Drhead images look legitimately bad to me?
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>>8271271
>>8271266

turd worlder fight GO
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>>8271262
This post was too Wholesome >>8271254



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