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Previous Thread: >>8295885

>LOCAL UI
A1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>LOCAL MODELS
Pony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749
Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765
Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templates
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8300546
Previous Thread Highlights

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>https://files.catbox.moe/fa990t.jpg

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>https://files.catbox.moe/kys123.jpg

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>https://files.catbox.moe/d1ek3k.jpg
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>>8300548
Based
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>>8300548
good good
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>>8300548
Gensisters status?
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>>8300548
robust
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>>8300575
This is too authentic looking to be AI, right?
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>most image on danbooru sucks hard
>let train with danbooru images!
>result sucks
>w-what went wrong?
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>>8300575
>>8300582
>>8300586
guys, this is AI thread you know
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>>8300589
tard
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>>8300494
>>8300516
very nice. boxes?

>>8300556
https://files.catbox.moe/x1d827.png
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>>8300616
Nice danbooru image sir
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>>8300616
>ass NSFW huge ass swing sitting anus of the highest quality lacking unquality possessing the trait commonly described as quality unlacking non quality schrodingers quality 2014 crack real no virus gta6 trailer purest quality up voted reddit gold.jpg

10/10 filename I can't fucking breathe
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Anchor post
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>>8300639
Requesting the anchor post after the thread is filled
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>>8300639
I request to be mentioned in the highlights
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>>8300548
eeyup
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>>8300639
i request early bakes for the rest of November
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>>8300546
>>8300639
If we're gonna have one at all, let's have an anchor that's not a total shitpost.
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>>8300676
no
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>>8300676
It was a joke, anon. Nobody wants an anchor here because then it turns the general into an absolute shit hole similar to /slop/ where half the thread is R34 ERP with people begging the 5 people that actually gen images for yet another big boob gacha girl slurping a hyper cock
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>>8300687
this, hdg is never going to end up a shithole
jerking off to computer hallucinations is a serious business
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>try to gen anything but pov slop
>keep getting multiple view comics
aaaaghh make it stop!
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>>8300687
It's a shitty joke that somehow shows up every thread.
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>>8300693
it's noobai
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>>8300693
it's unpruned comic panels and komas
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>>8300693
give the ai an out and it will generate as many views as possible to minimize loss
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>>8300698
This, just like with shitpost highlights, it just shows the dire need this thread has for the request anchor. Please make anchor posts every thread now, keep being based
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Requesting Xianyun buttjob.
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>>8300713
its pony
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>>8300739
a pony did that to our little Megumin?
blimey!
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>>8300725
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>>8300761
Ooh, that's good! Do more please.
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>>8300763
no
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>>8300763
already on it
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>>8300768
Lovely! Now remove her panties please.
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>>8300768
use the small pp in giant butt lora
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g-guys!
it is getting filled!
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>>8300809
IT'S HABBENING
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>>8300809
is that furry semen
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>>8300809
Cancelling my Noob sub and going all in on Pony!!! Let's go, bros!!!
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>switch to pony after being a noobGOD for a month
>faces and especially eyes look melty
Wat nou?
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>>8300869
get skills
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>you will never get a random handjob by a cutie in the subway
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>>8300912
Nice
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>>8300616
Cute, I wonder what else happens in that set.
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download this model https://civitai.com/models/900166/illunext-noobai-illustrious
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>>8300980
I dont think I will, Slurp
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>>8300980
>average download >100
be strong dude
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>anon makes a new thread early
>old thread becomes a text gen shitposter quarantine
>new thread is normal image thread
genius
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are artists just fried to hell and back in noob10
I have to use tiny weights like 0.4
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>>8301063
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OneTrainer can't train vpred loras, right? I wanna make sure I'm not missing some option.
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new to stable diffusion
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>>8300980
Why would I use this instead of anything else?
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>>8301202
Requesting panties added.
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>>8301202
nice
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>>8301202
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>>8301202
>comfyui
>autismmix pony
lol they got him
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>>8300720
if that's the case then ztsnr should drastically reduce the issue, right?
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>Work done
>Good movie to watch
>Gadgets to fiddle with
>Big titty cursed ghost wife

Life good.
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>>8301214
>the only way he can get the model is through exif
>thinks to be smart
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>>8301300
esl please what?
also how can you not tell what model is/a derivative off just by looking at it lol
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how are these threads worse than the /trash/ ones
literally how is this possible
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>>8301313
its noob
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>>8301313
can you link me to threads in /trash/ that are better than this one, anon? I would like to move to the better threads.
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>>8301318
you don't deserve it, shitposter
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>>8301302
you'd understand
if you were a comfy user
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https://mega.nz/folder/ctl1FYoK#BYlpywutnH4psbEcxsbLLg
added abe tsukasa (noobvpredtest)
added arako o (noobvpredtest)
added shindol (noobvpredtest)
added nyalia (noobvpredtest)
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>>8300809
https://derpibooru.org/images/1555919
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>>8301333
Share the training config?
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Is there any way to use inpaint and change just a small part of an image into one using a smaller resolution like 512x512 in comfyui?
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>>8301345
it's the same as the illustrious loras but with vpred/zsnr enabled and noise related settings disabled, but sure. i added the powershell scripts to the z-scripts folder
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>>8301361
Thank you. I missed the z-scripts folder entirely lol.
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>>8301364
no you're not crazy i just added it
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what happens if you merge noob and pony
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>>8301333
Dumb question incoming.
Do you not want to train the TE for artist loras?
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>>8301409
you can but you don't need too
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>>8301406
don't do it, it makes mustard gas
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What's the proper board for this stuff?
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>>8301455
/aco/
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>>8301458
thx
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>>8301302
You can if you are skilled.
Please tell me which models I have used.
They are all baked with the same prompt, no upscale, no inpaint (and you can see it)
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>>8301473
2 4 5 (left to right, top to bottom). did you think this was hard or something?
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>>8301409
you shouldn't, it's destabilizing and you don't need to train the tenc to teach the unet new things. even for concepts you shouldn't be training the tenc desu, it's a huge misconception.
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>>8301490
lmao, wrong, wrong and wrong
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>>8301496
pony refers to every pony shitmix dumbass
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>>8301498
they aren't faggot
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>>8301498
only one is a model that comes from pony, none of the three you named, the others are based on other big checkpoint or directly from SDXL
>b-b-but they reseble a little bit Pony...
It's fucking SDXL you moron!
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>>8301490
>>8301498
Now you have three chances, let mee see how you confuse pony with illustrious or auraflow.
Let me laught at you.
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>>8301473
>won't post the grid with metadata
lol
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>>8301473
>ESL pablo is going to post more garbage pony gens and laugh at us
i'm so excited!
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>>8301510
What is the purpose of the game?
To show how you pony complayers are just unskilled and do not have any eye, you can only read the metadata.
I'll post them after you realize the reality.
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>>8301514
an anon gave his answers. you called him wrong and and yet refuse to post the metadata. fuck off with your garbage bait
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>>8301512
>no skills
>no arguments
>no eye
Do you think it's an insult to tell a guy he knows more languages than you?
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>one thread is quarantine for shitposters
>the other thread has an esl furry sperging out about people calling pony garbage
it's all so tiresome
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>>8301515
I told he still didn't spot the pony picture.
I want to laugh when he'll tell that noobai or whatever is Pony.
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>>8301517
>one thread is quarantine for shitposters
Only 6 more images, faggots
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This is a grand display of tomfoolery! Such rare hijinks in an /hdg/ thread
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>>8301518
>won't post the answers because he knows i'm right
i accept your concession. don't (you) me anymore unless you want to lay the cards on the table you waste of space.
>>8301520
you guys can't get here fast enough, please do
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>>8301509
>>8301510
>>8301512
>>8301514
>>8301515
>>8301516
>>8301517
>>8301518
samefag status?
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>>8301523
the pony picture is 1, 3 or 6.
Pic one.
>>8301525
pic
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>>8301516
wow you really took some time to make sure that one was proper didn't you. proud you of you champ!
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>noobtroon mad he got btfo
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I can just tell it's noodletroon still seething about pony
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>>8301539
I thought noodletroon liked pony. Shitposter sisters, what’s the narrative this week?
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>>8301541
Nice deflection
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>>8300713
nice try
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5357319
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>try to prompt monstergirls on 10
>get furshit unless I specify human features like hair and skin colors
AHH I HATE FURRIES
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>>8300687
implying it's not a shithole already
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>>8301556
I actually went and checked /d/. 170 out of 175 images are 1boy. Not even futa on female, or dick+vagina solo futa, just straight up traps with balls.
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>>8301612
and that's a good thing
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>>8301612
Remember, anything that isn't deleted is within rules. Anons can pretend to be wannabe jannies but they are powerless, so post any slop you want
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>>8301614
I know. Not even the guy he was replying to originally. I gen a lot of hyper penetration but there's no good place to post it.
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>>8301612
gay and furries ruining everything as always
cant even enjoy real futa in peace
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>>8301612
what do you mean by "traps with balls"? like, actually clearly male characters, or are they futas with breasts where the vagina just isn't visible?
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FEELS SO NICE TO BE POSTING IN /SLOP/ DAAAAMN
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>>8301618
>futas with breasts where the vagina just isn't visible
It's just not there. People used to call it "newhalf" back in the day.
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Futa is much more gay than traps.
Thoughts?
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>>8301622
ok unc
it's time for your nap
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>>8301624
Proof?
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>>8301624
truth
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>>8300546
Previous Thread Highlights

TH_24-11-04_-hdg-_a.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/g86juj.jpg

TH_24-11-04_-hdg-_b.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/n1cfr4.jpg

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>https://files.catbox.moe/9090fe.jpg
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>>8301624
trvke
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>>8301631
based!
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>>8301631
kill yourself
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>>8301631
kil... nvm
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>>8301631
>didn't make it
Kill yourself senpai
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>>8301626
With traps you are attracted to the femininity despite the cock. Penis is not the center of attention of most trap doujins and pics. It's there to remind you that it's a failed male that the main character ((You)) is fucking which makes it sweeter.
With futa shit... the focus is almost always on the huge, throbbing dick. It's a grotesque hag... but there's also a gigantic cock and balls attached. That's because that's the whole fucking point of futa, the huge dick that you want to suck.
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>>8301624
Depends on the artist's intent. I can understand them no wanting to draw dudes and futa is a way to still have "regular" sex. But for others "1girl, standing, penis" is the actual fetish.
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>>8301631
do you thing the schizo just mades up the links or actually grabs a dead link? woulkd be hilarious if he makes them up and accidentally gets a right link.
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>>8301631
900 iq
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>>8301637
it's also funny how futas have vaginas just how people can go "see, it's a woman! i'm definitely straight" and then they proceed to focus on the dick anyways
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>>8301631
stop, he's already dead
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I'll now use your illu noob 1.1 shitmix #429
https://litter.catbox.moe/5c31g2.webp
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How do I make good looking anime gens with Noob? I've even tried copying tag lists from Danbooru posts into my prompt but at least 70% of the girls have a snout and half of them are wearing diapers. Is that intended?
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>>8301645
>Is that intended?
It's noob 1.0
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>8301644
didn't ask
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>>8301644
nice
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>>8301644
Which shitmix thoughbeit
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>>8301211
based, bokkusu?
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>>8301624
There's no vagene with traps.
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It looks like Euge might be cancelling vpred since he is encountering bugs using the correct conversion method.
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iatroon status?
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>>8301661
fuck off retard
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>>8301661
Based
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>>8301663
Obliterated
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>8301661
>8301665
samefag
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>>8301663
roping xerself atm
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>>8301663
Dead
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>>8301654
nursebox
https://files.catbox.moe/lfa9do.png
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>>8301663
but who is that dude? from time to time i hear that name and i dont even know where he comes from
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>>8301666
The devil has spoken
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>>8301672
lurk for 10 years before posting
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>>8301672
lurk for 11 years before posting
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oh no no NO NO NO NO
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>>8301677
it's so over
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>>8301677
tell him to just fix it in post with photoshop
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>>8301644
uoh?
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>>8301677
It's so fucking over for localtrannies, enjoy eating your Noob slopmixes for the next 10 years while us payCHADs are getting sucked off by our gens on NAIv6.
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>>8301677
1.0 is shit anyway, so it was over before it even began
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>>8301686
You don't even have nai, poorfag
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>>8301686
v4 status?
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>>8301691
implying shitposters here even gen anything
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>>8301693
Soon
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>>8301691
but i do!
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oh no no no, noobsisters what do we do now?
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>>8301670
kek, sankyu
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>>8301696
Why is it so imageless?
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>>8301694
Why would I bother posting my gens here? You all deserve to wallow in misery for 2000 posts.
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>>8301700
This. Ever since I visited /slop/ I'm never going back
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>>8301699
since when have naifags done gens?
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>>8301699
nyo :3
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tell me why
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>>8301707
so this is the power of nai....
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>>8301697
>>8301698
>>8301699
>>8301700
>>8301701
>>8301704
>>8301707
>>8301709
>>8301710
I just can't help but notice
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>>8301707
>artist:why is it so blurry?
a simple kek
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Meds status?
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why indeed?
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noob status?
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>>8301721
salvataged
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>>8301707
cute
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retrained dark lora for noob 1.0, works better for noob 1.0-based checkpoints than the illustrious one
upload done in a bit on crap internet
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how do you report duplicate threads again?
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>>8301729
yell out your window
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i want to lick an office ladies ass
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>>8301736
i dont think she wiped very well
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>>8301736
sniff box?
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>>8301738
It's a bonus
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what the fuck is going on with the threads?
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>>8301742
this is the correct thread. blame ia schizo for being a retarded attention whore
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>>8301740
https://files.catbox.moe/jkrclr.png

>>8301738
...extra flavor..?
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>>8301742
this
>>8301746
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>>8301726
thats really cute somehow
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>>8301726
download
https://civitai.com/models/915440?modelVersionId=1031514
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>>8301757
it fucks styles tho?
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>>8301742
>what the fuck is going on
take a look ath this thread and you get your answer
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>>8301762
I don't think you can achieve that with vectorscope
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>>8301762
got an xy or a/b?
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>>8301742
The anti-hentai illuminati is performing another attack on our kingdom
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>>8301762
i have figured out that ciloranko specifically is adversarial to dark gens, tries to shove orange light beams and chromatic aberration into the frame by any means necessary
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>>8301762
masterpiece, best quality, absurdres, asanagi,

1girl, hatsune miku, bed sheet, sleeping, dark, night, pillow, under covers, bedroom, window, (moonlight:0.5)
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>>8301757
>for noob10
>not the actually good noob05
y
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>>8301778
1.0 is objectively superior with 0.5's TE, and this is a unet-only model anyways
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>>8301780
How do I use 1.0 with 0.5's te without resorting to cumrag?
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>>8301782
webui has merge features and sheeit
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>>8301780
superior in what way? and no fart on prey doesn't count
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Fuck this guy is amazing but he has too few images, and most are too new to have made it in.

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=huabuwandefeng&z=1
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I like this guy's merge
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>>8301787
without the trained TE fart tubes has no meaning
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>>8301788
>gatchashit
ew
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>>8301775
and a bit more /h/
masterpiece, best quality, absurdres, yd \(orange maru\),

1girl, hatsune miku, bed sheet, missionary position, vaginal, nude, w arms, dutch angle, pussy juice, moaning, dark, night, (sidelighting:0.6), (moonlight:0.5)
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>>8301789
autismmix?
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>>8300592
This is awesome. Box please?
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>>8301726
what training method did you use? can you share the toml?
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>>8301793
https://civitai.com/models/835655?modelVersionId=1023901
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>>8301623
Nice style, can i hav box?
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>>8301798
the locon extraction schizo technology for 20 epochs and about 2000 total steps
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>>8301788
you would get the meltiest hand and eyes if he was working
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>>8301798
>>8301806
https://catbox.moe/c/qplstc
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>>8301810
o, specifically the higher LR 20 epoch one
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So Noob was just the test model, right? When's LAX's team starting on their actual bake?
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>>8301817
vpred soon, the hope/cope is that extra training in that process will restabilize the TE
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>>8301817
Why is it coping
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>>8301817
haha...
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>>8301810
qrd on how to run this?
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>>8301804
that's hot
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>>8301823
put into sd-scripts folder, rename the .py to __extractthis.py, edit the ps1 script to point to the correct locations, run it
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>>8301817
as soon as they manage to wrangle the trainer
currently they are heating the server room for nothing
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Testing other artists styles
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>>8301826
what the hell are you talking about
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>>8301800
huh, looks decent
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>>8301828
>>8301677
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>>8301827
That looks like a wet baguette
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>>8301831
yes, that's still noob. that's not what the person you replied to asked
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>>8301832
so much this mon ami
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Trying to get good muscle girls is harder then I thought it'd be. The model seems to want to default to either lightly toned and sporty at best or outrageously ripped, and trying to get the sweet spot between them is taking work
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>>8301837
that's anime for you
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>>8301827
styles?
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>>8301837
use e621 tags https://e621.net/posts?tags=muscular_female+
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>>8301847
testing the knowledge of 1.0 with artist that ahve only 30 to 200 in the booru.
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>>8301849
im laughing everytime someone post e621
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>>8301800
really liking it as well
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>>8301849
that one's the same as the danbooru tag, retard: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/muscular_female
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>>8301857
why is it so angry
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>>8301859
i'm mad about the chinks fumbling their compute and making a failbake worse than pony
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>>8301864
>failbake worse than pony
trying too hard buddy
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>>8301837
where's this in your range?
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>>8301868
disgusting, can't barely look at that muscular back.
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>>8301869
disdain for pleb
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>>8301869
>can't barely look
hands status?
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>>8301873
masburtating
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>>8301827
>>8301852

Without much success I must admit.
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>>8301868
It's a little hard for me to tell from just the back honestly, but probably on the lower side. Her thighs and arms are still proportioned like a normal persons, and part of what I'm looking for is pronounced biceps/forearms/thighs. A girl who's a bit bigger overall than just a normal anime waifu plus some muscle tone
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>>8301885
id try starting with a big-bodied character and adding toned female, and try things like abs and muscular at low or zero weights
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>>8301892
or oh, aisha clanclan
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off to sleep, have a nice one friends.
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why are you guys posting in a troll thread with ugly op?
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>>8301896
it had more posts and has more momentum than the other thread
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>>8301892
That's what I'm trying to do, though trying different combos of muscular_female, tonned, abs, and biceps all at varying weights to see the results is taking a bit of time is all
Also you're right that the character base obviously affects thing, a girl who's commonly drawn as muscular like Mirko is going to get very different than a regular anime girl. Which is frustrating because I'm trying to get something that works across the board
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>>8301896
it doesn't matter
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>>8301898
i think the degree of the muscle tags is inherently dependent on the base character, as well as on general descriptors of body size
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>>8301817
No. Lax said that they never planned so. It's on discord.
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>>8301902
True. I'm sure the base mix will probably work for the majority of generic anime waifus, but I'll have to adjust for girls who are muscular at base
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>>8301837
Put hyper, hyper muscles in negs, that should help
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>8301896
>please please PLEASE use my attentionwhore thread
rope
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Looks like I found the blue filter
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Been attempting to gen Bulma getting gangraped, while having cock shoved down her throat, but I'm just shit at prompts. Using SDXL on Dreamerscape.
Here's one of my better gens.
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>>8301919
that's a bit much
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>>8301921
use autismmix, the only /hdg/ approved model
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It really does feel like NAI in a way. So many styles to play with but their strengths are all over the place, and I can't predict how they're going to mix either. So I'm just flailing around trying random stuff.
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>>8301928
me in the back
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>>8300467
AHHAHAHAHAHAHA
local really simply CANNOT BAKE. they just do not have the knowledge to implement vpred/ztsnr properly. go back to waiting for cascade
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>>8301948
LOCALKEKS BTFO
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>>8301948
wagecuck naislaves will do anything to shill their model when they can get the same quality for free on local. it's honestly sad
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>>8301955
I am not going to jerk off to this until she has a death grip on his balls.
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>>8301953
>when they can get the same quality for free on local
i fucking wish man. all i want is to train loras on an actually good anime model
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>>8301964
just train a l-
ermmm... ummmmm.. hrrmmmmmmm
c-controlnet??
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>>8301955
nice
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>>8301953
What backwater shithole do you live in where $25 is a significant chunk of your monthly wage?
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>>8301964
Just use style transfer on the NovelAI platform, it's vastly superior to outdated local loras
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What do you guys use to store your prompts? Just pngs? Anyone using just plain text files?
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>>8301953
I think it's actual employees shitting up the thread they fucked up a screenshot a few threads back
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>>8301968
any amount would be too much
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>>8301968
that's true for 80% of the population on earth :(
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>>8301968
What penis mindcontrolled drone do you have to be to pay for porn?
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>>8301948
Looking at the current state of noob, he's right
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>>8301923
Thanks, it's getting better.
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>>8301968
Just wait until NAI v4 shits the bed, then you'll be stuck with a garbage model with no ability to just use the old one
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https://files.catbox.moe/xcnb1d.png
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cumtrolnet
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controlcope
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>>8301968
In my lovely country it would be equal to Americans paying 60$~ for it
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>>8301981
holy cope
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>>8301987
That's still an insignificant amount of money
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24gb of vram chads, what batch size do you train on?
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>>8301984
>>8301986
you must be 18 years old to post here
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0.75 is decent
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Once again asking for some help. Everytime I make an artstyle lora, no matter what settings I use, the lora comes out making the colors wayyy oversaturated and line work very thick (artist uses very thin lines). When doing a gen, if I multiply sigmas by like .4, it actually starts looking like the art style, but anatomy becomes a giant unrecognizable mess. Anyone know what could possibly be causing this?
Toml: https://files.catbox.moe/48bhrf.txt
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>>8301984
>>8301986
based
>>8302001
cringe
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>>8302008
>colors wayyy oversaturated
I get this shit on a character lora I did too so it's not just styles I think
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>>8302008
Never used all those newfangled settings, but if a lora comes out bad it 95% the dataset's fault. Either you have too much style variability in the dataset, low quality images or they're tagged wrong.

I also wouldn't train on 0.75 but on base illus.
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>>8302016
>when you finally have time to think about your life decisions that lead you to this moment
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>>8302008
what's a sigma and why are you multiplying it
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>>8302008
Double/triple the epochs and see what happens.
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>>8302019
*led you

It's not that people don't have time, they keep running from such thoughts. To alcohol, hookups or genning, it's all the same in the end.
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>>8302022
why is it so philosophical
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what is the best noob 1.0 mix?
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>>8302026
turn 360 degrees and download 0.5
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>>8302026
>>8301800
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Haven't had any luck making my gens more aggressive than this.
Oh well...
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>>8302026
still testing https://files.catbox.moe/moahe3.jpg
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>>8302031
Prompt?
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>>8302031
aronahole my beloved
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>>8302031
For pony, merges were important to wrangle its strong base style in different directions. But here with such minor differences, does it even matter?
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>>8301800
I'll try your snake oil this time.
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>>8302016
>>8301983
Box please?!
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>>8302039
snake oil is fake, it does nothing
this clearly does "something", for better or worse
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>>8301959
nice gen
thanks for your sacrifice
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>>8302028
huh seems pretty decent

>>8302031
based, what you like the most atm?
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>>8302043
I guess the goat man was too much it got tagged as furry.
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>>8302021
It increases my time to +10 hours to make
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>>8302046
also hyper
I noticed when you break multiple rules at once jannies come faster
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>>8302039
I'm having fun with it
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>>8302040
https://files.catbox.moe/44p68d.png
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why is noob 1.0 so... burnt?
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>>8302060
it's TE training
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>>8302060
poor training settings
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>>8302061
>>8302062
can it be counteracted in any way?
0.5 was fine
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So many localkeks crying out in pain, it's beautiful. You all deserve nothing, so you should be bowing to your chink overlords for their fried slop handouts.
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>>8302064
the only remaining cope is that the vpred conversion and a few epochs with a frozen te will help
if that still doesn't work then it's over
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>>8302031
kindly waiting for your final decision, based aronachad
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>>8302066
it's so shit that it can't even do "red hair" consistently with an artist that only draws black hair
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>>8302065
whatever you say paypig
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>>8302069
which one?
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>>8302052
Eh... Not what I was expecting, but I'll accept it, I guess.
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>>8302052
Feels more stiff, I'll keep messing with it though.
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>>8302073
Probably. I couldn't tard wrangle base 1.0 effectively so I went with this.
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>>8302074
I was hoping some tard would wrestle with the weights and figure something out with 1.0 after the initial shit posting. I gave up after a day of fucking around with it.
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>>8301982
smugsoles metadata?
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>>8301800
I've tried most of the 1.0 shitmixes so far and no luck. Have this one downloaded to test tonight but to be fair, I'm content with cyberfix1 so I'll keep my expectations low.
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[BREAKING NEWS]
vpred is saved
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>>8302126
Don't give me hope....
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>>8302126
Hurrrah!! though still cautiously optimistic with how dogshit 1.0 is
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>>8302073
Nice tits, box please?
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>>8302137
Explain why you deserve a box without sounding mad.
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>>8302137
https://files.catbox.moe/3yt2qe.png
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>>8302146
nyo
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>>8302126
did they say what was wrong before or did they just forgot to plug in something important?
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>>8302165
6ft vs 5'1"
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>>8302126
i would be more enthuiastic about this if they hadn't doubled down on not cleaning their dataset and released fried slop worse than 0.5 as their 1.0
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>>8302174
no frying is too much so that it can be "supporting D station solo count 80 characters and artistic styles." :^)
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>>8302031
At least post actual box
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THIS JUST IN: A CONFIRMED TO BE ANGEL SCHIZO ANON WAS RIGHT WTFF CHECK THE COORD
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>>8302192
(You) should post a screenshot or fuck off
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>>8302192
based
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>>8302192
literally nobody cares about your room temperature iq "theory" besides you. kill yourself
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>>8302192
cordin' my cock rn...
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>>8302192
What the hell, I thought this was a troll. I can't believe he messed up like that, hilarious.
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>>8302192
>>8302202
Nothing on Eugecord and Touhoucord tho
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>>8302192
>>8302202
samekek
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>>8302197
NTA but what theory? Someone @',d angel and a replied as if it was him (talking in angels unique brand of gookesl). Sort of funny. I guess it makes sense he'd need an alias to talk on other projects unfiltered since he probably has a non compete and NDA contract or whatever
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>>8302204
I know you'll think I edited this or something stupid but lol. Just saying what I see.
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>>8302194
I can't, I just finished a 3day for posting coord screens. It's not that hard to look yourself
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>>8302207
The implications this would have are way too far fetched to be plausible. It would mean that Angel has been part of HDG for a while, and that Angel has been experimenting with flow matching and minor finetunes on civitai and on 4chan. Not to mention that Angel very clearly likes cunny and vtubers, whereas a never showed any indication of this.
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>>8302204
you got me
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>>8302211
And also a and angel's overall activity periods suggest that this person is awake all day
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>>8302207
That's called parody by the way.
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>>8302152
Thank you!
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>>8302210
>3day for posting coord screens
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>>8302211
not him but didn't angel join noobcoord directly after b- posted the link here?
and a said to EPIC his favorite artist was some generic booru guy who I'm 98% sure draws at the very least, funny adjacent prepubescent hebes.
I hate that I'm defending this
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>>8302219
Idk what to tell you, they called it off topic. you get a 3 day for just about anything here if enough reports are sent in
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are you guys pretending to be retarded or what
if i'm going to listen to an incoherent braindead schizo theory it'd at least prefer it to be about something more interesting than trooncord personalities
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>>8302220
He's not on noobcord as far as I can see, only arti one
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>>8302214
>suggest that this person is awake all day
People are awake throughout day, more news at 10!
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>>8302225
Oh wait nevermind yeah he his. oops
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>>8302228
too good for this place
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>>8302230
bro it's insanely fried
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>>8302207
what? a is clearly a native english speaker and uses much more colloquial english than angel does. take your meds, holy shit.
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>>8302225
???
I just looked and he's in it. I remember EPIC waved at his welcome shit or whatever gay ass trooncordery because I had to figure out how to mute that channel
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>>8300713
I'd recognize this post anywhere

Post AI faggot
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>>8302237
Yeah my bad
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https://civitai.com/posts/8802468
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>>8302220
Not sure about the timing at which b- linked the cord invite, but going by how Angel said nothing in the arti code and was working on converting illustrious to v-pred, I think the idea that Angel was looking for code to reference for that conversion is pretty plausible. If a and Angel were one in the same, then Angel would've had that code without having needed to join Eugecord.
Also artists and what they draw isn't much evidence either, especially when it's just a sample size of 1
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>>8302236
A is definitely ESL. Not even saying I agree with this schizo shit but there is no way in hell that guy's first language is English. I'd at best consider he uses a translator, he misunderstands and misreplies to a lot of things, as well as some phrase mix ups that are very clearly ESL
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>>8302241
Original schizo theory was that, that was intentional to cover tracks because a had been worshipping angel as God's gift to the earth who everyone should listen to too much. Or something, I'm not reading back. I don't even care, why do I know all this useless crap
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Why are you guys giving that dumbass the time of day. We really are bored
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>(a)ngel is in the room with us right now trying to convince everyone this is just schizo nonsense
suss you're so quick to try to refute it vs ignore, I'm converting to team SCHIZO!
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>>8302245
and even in that case all a said about angel was that if they were going to finetune illustrious then they should at least fucking read the paper angel wrote about it, which should be obvious to anybody
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>>8302228
Boyrape kino
At least I chose to believe that's what's happening here, even if it's not the intent
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Not sure if it manage to write something coherent kek
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>>8302248
He's gone on like 3 sperg outs about how smart Angel is or some shit now across the two servers. I don't really buy the 'theory' but a is an insufferable Angel assucker. I need to stop reading so much of this gay stuff holy shit
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>>8302253
you made me waste 30 seconds of my time looking up a's posts about angel on both servers and all he said was what i just wrote so fuck you for that
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please astrashart and vpoop hurry up and save the shitposters from their boredom
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>>8302252
The kana is correct and sort of coherent grammatically, but the kanji is complete gibberish. Also, very nice nipples.
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LAX is uploading the first viable v-prediction epochs of 1.0 to HF right now btw.
Will be up here shortly: https://huggingface.co/Laxhar/noob_sdxl_v_pred/tree/main
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>>8302256
I've been unironically reading both discords since the start, every message (I hate myself). He has gone off multiple times now spazzing about it, beyond what you said. Likely he didn't directly use the name "angel" when referring to him hence why you don't see it. I really do not care enough about this to do anything but correct basic information, but I swear it's there and happened. I've actually come to find him one of the more annoying characters because he's so whiny and cocksucky like that
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>>8302261
in what universe is that sort of coherent?
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>>8302262
21 days ago
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>>8302262
where'd he post about it? hate needing to sift through multiple channels and discords to find this shit
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>>8302265
>Will be up here shortly
>>8302266
Artiwaifu Discord, just a few minutes ago.
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>>8302262
well was gonna go to sleep, i guess it is postponed now
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>>8302264
>_siteinara
>sou
>kara
That could fit in a grammatically correct phrase.
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>>8302267
thanks!
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>>8302262
>shortly
>right now
>>checks what was said
>today
ok
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>>8302262
im a doomer but one thing i can give them is that they move fast
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>>8302271
ok you saved me anon, time to sleep then
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>>8302271
...he posted a screenshot of the model files being uploaded, which is a hell of a lot more reliable than anything he actually says since it's all passed through MTL.
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>>8302272
anybody would move fast with 32xh100 (besides troongles)
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first kamala winning and now vpred working. this day just can't get any better!
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>>8302252
booox?
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>>8302280
horse pussy?
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>>8302285
no, just hag

oh wait...
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>>8302285
it's noob
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>for reasons unknown to even Satan himself, yoinked has to yet again try to shill using the neurosis trainer, despite faggles repeated failbakes being blamed on its botched code
I don't get it, does someone pay him for this shit?
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does loras and stuff need to be retrained on the v pred model?
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>>8302289
What's the difference between epsilon and vpred again?
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>>8302293
https://rentry.org/wtfvpred
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>>8302288
i hate that faggot so much
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>>8302285
((dark labia, long labia,pubic_stubble,clitoris)),NoobAI-XL was trained with a billion NSFW images, but he can't generate a pussy properly, unfortunately!!!
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>>8302293
better colors basically. can get perfect black and white with vpred
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>>8302288
To be fair, the only buggy part was their TE training code. The ztsnr and unet stuff worked fine. I tried the wdv alpha and the colours on that model are actually way better than euge test bake of voted
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>>8302274
>20 mins later
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>>8302308
i concede
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>>8302304
>way better than euge test bake
kinda hard to compare there considering his bake was only a few hours of out of pocket GPU time
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>>8302311
tbf so was the wdv alpha
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>>8302304
also helps that they started with cosxl which had working colors to begin with while noob is trying this 'conversion' method which will take way more epochs for it to actually adapt properly
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>>8302030
Oh fuck, I've made a breakthrough.
So, uh... at what point is posting depictions of rape too inappropriate to post here? I mean, yeah, guro isn't allowed, but what about signs of physical abuse, like bruising and bleeding?
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>>8302031
all of them give me that shiny aom shitmix vibes but the personal merge has pretty good anatomy
https://litter.catbox.moe/0x19p3.png
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>>8302315
if it's not guro you're good
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is up
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>>8302317
Cool
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>>8302318
s4 or s5?
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>>8302320
both nigga
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>>8302320
s4000 and s5000
https://huggingface.co/Laxhar/noob_sdxl_v_pred/tree/main/vpred-model
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>>8302322
checked. what's the difference between the two?
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>>8302324
1000 steps of training
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v-pred isnt going to change anything. Loras and inpainting can handle all v-pred has to offer.
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ZERO TERMINAL SIGNAL-TO-NOISE R A T I O
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>>8302325
ty
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Commence the 1girl solo XYZs.
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How many steps until it's finished?
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>>8302332
how long is a piece of string?
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>>8302329
I can't post the 2boys, frotting XYZs as they are against the rules of the board. Sorry.
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>>8302333
At least one atom long.
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>>8302334
catbox them
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>>8302334
catbox it faggot
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>>8302233
define insanely
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>>8302292
this is a grotesque pile of flesh and look dumb
also hot as fuck
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Yep, v-pred will save us, calling it now
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how slow are your fucking dl speeds
xyz where
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first vpred gen for Hex!
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>>8302295
so ermmm how do i use it in forge? idk if they set the flag or whatever, do i have to manually check a box?
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20 (TWENTY) minutes since upload and no verdict yet
its over
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>>8302352
Blurry and dark
Good
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>>8302354
it's better than noob v1 I'll tell you that
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>>8302352
uhh why is it so...
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>>8302358
i don't care if it's so i just wanted to gen hex
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>>8302354
we all downloaded it and are testing it independently retard
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>>8302364
its a joke anon
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>>8302369
it's not a joke, it's over
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Reforge can use vpred if it's updated recently?
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>>8302354
CIA niggers are throttling my download speed
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it's joever
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>>8302374
yeah
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What's the NAI test prompt again?
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>>8302380
1girl, 1nigger, netorare
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>>8302380
>1girl, standing, gpo, ces
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So does base Forge main branch not automatically support vpred?
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>>8302380
2boys, farting on prey, feces bulge
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https://litter.catbox.moe/kkbt3t.png
is good
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naisissies, we (local) stole your sekrit sauce and i have some bad news for you: you all are on suicide watch
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>>8302386
local had a vpred model before nai did thoughbeit
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>>8302352
Box
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Now that the dust has settled, why did vpred fail this spectacularly?
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>>8302391
you're looking awfully prey bro
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I still have no idea what vpred is or why it's good but I'm going to use it to shitpost
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>>8302379
Just updated Reforge, but I don't see it.
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>>8302395
think of the blackest cock your mind can imagine. now imagine it 10x blacker :)
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>>8302394
bro... dont fart on me or im gonna prey_shitting_self,feces_shaped_bulge
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>>8302397
Iirc reforge needed to be the dev branch or something

someone on discord is saying it's fried, I'm going to cry
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amerifags, how's it going?
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>>8302397
Under "advanced model sampling for forge" on the dev_upstream branch
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OH NO NO NO
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>>8302410
it's over
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>>8302381
You asked for it, cuckie
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>>8302410
why are you screenshotting yourself momoura
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>Watching b -chama's heart break in real time
Mfw thinking about you hurtin'.
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lowering to cfg 3.5 unfries it
>ignore the sausage finger
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IT'S NEVER BEEN MORE JOEVER
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>>8302414
sorry its actually me angel (a) (epic)
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>>8302417
>aom3 cfg
LMAO
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What's it like to get a handjob from someone with clubbed fingers?
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It gets lost during first few steps of generation where composition is involved, that's why you get randomly overblown colors and anatomy. It will learn with time... maybe.
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How do you use the vpred in Comfy? I just switched the model out and now it's generating this green noise.
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>>8302424
ModelSamplingDiscrete node, set it to vpred and enable zsnr.
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>>8302425
Not sure if I'm really doing this right, but I am getting an output now. Thanks.
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>NAI still got the blackest, juiciest BBC even with vpred
It's over
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just did some basic 1girling. feels kind of unwieldy still. reminds me a lot of cascade unironically. getting lots of bad anatomy. not going to call it doom yet
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is the whole selling point of this vpred thing the ability to make images dark? why do people want that?
isnt it better to see whats going on in your image, if its all black and shit then you cant see all the details. am i missing something here??
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>>8302434
>am i missing something here??
Yeah, your brain.
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>>8302434
it has a fuller color range in general, dark images are just easy to show off since other models don't do it as well
https://rentry.org/wtfvpred
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>>8302434
It's not only that, that's more of a side effect of that. It allows you to do more colorful images without it bleeding onto other a aspects.
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>>8302434
vpred zsnr should fix all lighting
standard eps is flawed. if you genned images you've surely encountered random light spots where they shouldn't be. like random lamps or windows.
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i'll cope that it's just underbaked for now
https://files.catbox.moe/yz90i7.png
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It hasn't even been 1 epoch you retards
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>>8302446
yes, that's the problem
it already got fried somehow
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>>8302446
still more training than euge's test on 0.5
full 0.5 vpred conversion when??
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>>8302432
^ this one's vpred
and picrel is 0.5, definitely a big difference in color. haven't noticed any degradation in anatomy yet
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>>8302446
wait, so you're telling me it's a partial epoch?????
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Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but testing it a bit, it feels like it's following my prompt worse than 1.0, which itself is better than 0.5 at the particular prompt I'm testing right now. However, the colors are more accurate to the prompt so that's cool. Not sure yet if the anatomy is worse as it's following my prompt differently now.
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>>8302450
cascadebros...
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from this partial epoch it does seem like their learning rate is like x10 what it should be, idk
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Alright.
I think the anatomy is a tiny bit worse.
Hopefully this can be corrected. I really like some of the kino backgrounds it's generating for me at the moment.
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models do get temporarily "fried" during high lr phases in cosine annealing training
idk what scheduler they're using tho
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Thinking about EasyFluff is making me wonder if Vpred just works better for merge fodder
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>>8302462
yeah? merge with what exactly?
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>>8302460
eyup let the cope begin
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colors looking good https://litter.catbox.moe/af9jz4.png
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>>8302465
EasyFluff was pretty incestuous, it was basically 99% fluffyrock merged into itself until it became stable. The only issue was it became piss colored but HLL 7-9 somehow removed that issue.
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>>8302484
>it became piss colored
it's e621
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>>8302475
>NAI colors
finally
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>>8302484
>it became piss colored but HLL 7-9 somehow removed that issue
furry apologist sisters what cope will we come up with now?
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>>8302486
Fluffyrock wasn't as piss colored as EasyFluff

>>8302490
Actually I think HLL anon did something with noise training to fix it but I keep forgetting what it was
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>>8302446
>Adaptation to the changes described in Section 2 was quite fast. While the initial step, initialized
from the original SDXL weights, showed only noise, our first set of samples, output after about 30
minutes (wall time) of training, was already coherent.
Convert the 256xH100x30minutes to Euge/Lax compute and you get the idea but that isn't really telling because NAI started at the beginning, before any knowledge was learned.
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>>8302488
they really should have just trained on vpred from the start https://litter.catbox.moe/hf9gl0.webp
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>>8302497
this
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>>8302497
Oh shit, yeah those are NAI colors
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well i guess our only h(c)ope is vpred starts locking in
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>>8302475
artists or metadata please? The eyes are cute
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uhhh sirs does this mean they didnt use ztsnr
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>>8302504
atte nanakusa
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>>8302512
ask them, not codelets on /hdg/
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>>8302514
thankies
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>Try to gen good looking men in my prompt
>End with yumejoushi smut

Surely there is a middle ground...
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>>8302524
>good looking men
>>>/y/
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>>8302512
>I didn't enable the ztsnr checkbox because it seems that reforge has issues with this feature. I enable it during training.
From LAXcord
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>>8302527
i see, i will commit sudoku for my underresearched shitpost
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>>8302524
I do that on purpose by putting "yaoi" in my hentai prompts.
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adetailer and img2img are frying my gens with the vpred model on reforge, any ideas? they're all using the same model, same cfg, same samplers and everything
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Topical
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I really wish Comfy had all the schedulers Forge has.
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>>8302541
You can make any custom schedule you want with built-in nodes.
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>>8302545
might as well just draw the image at that point
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>>8302549
retard
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>>8302550
As somene who uses comfy and custom samplers and shit let's not pretend it's not a major pain in the ass
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just use webui
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there are two generals and neither of them are being spammed with shitposts, HOW do I know which one to use??
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What is Euge posting on discord anons...
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>wake up
>check thread
>anons are discussing me like i'm some sort of a celebrity
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Why are there two apg momentums? are they even different? nothing outside of norm threshold seems to do anything substantial.
Or maybe it's a side effect of using hyperXL.
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>>8302541
which? I thought it had all them
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>>8302556
i use whichever stinks of troons the least
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>>8302536
Same here with edetailer, hires fix seems to work fine on the other hand. Img2img I haven't tried though. My guess is that advanced model sampling and znsr aren't enabled on adetailer by default for some reason (using reforge dev)
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>>8302573
duh
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>>8302575
kek
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>>8302575
The cope is going to be Astronomical.
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>>8302192
whatever did we even say that triggered your broken samefag detector? curious
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There's something funny about Euge and the rest of the team failing to train vpred and refusing help with it from only people who succeed while also giving compute to a random chinese dude to train controlnets.
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>>8302587
vpred is... something
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>>8302587
>refusing help with it from only people who succeed
literally who?
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>>8302587
it gets worse
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>>8302587
>a random chinese dude
Do you mean bdsqlsz? Are you retarded? Why do some of you even attempt to have an opinion when you know so little
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>>8302590
So uh... EPs pred is unfinished and te is out of synch, GPUs are dwindling rapidly, vpred is being half assed over top of the fucked up 1.0 model, and they're training a CN that won't even work with the vpred model?

Someone is absolutely taking this project hostage on the inside and forcing bad choices/rushed releases wtf
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Good morning! First gen with the 5000 steps vpred checkpoint
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reading this vpred stuff, it kind of sounds like a mess. why didnt they just start with cosxl or something instead? didnt nai even say how much of a pain in the ass trying to wrangle XL was? now euge's already telling people to shitmix vpred back into 1.0.
why the fuck are they even trying this 'conversion' shit anyway? does it even make sense? yeah hold up as i 'convert' my 30 epoch model into an entirely different method as if that won't just cause the model to fuck itself in such a way that nobody can tell what's wrong. now they're all grasping at air as 1.0 itself wasn't any good and vpred is just broken with no way to tell if it will ever fix itself as the settings they were using since the start were already shit to begin with. "give it time to sort itself out" as if continuing training 1.0 EPS wouldn't just continue to fuck it up more. they're taking already shit settings and compounding them with the uncharted area of vpred.
with their compute there is zero reason to use undertrained illust 0.1 as a base instead of training from xl/cosxl. all they are doing is introducing even more unknowns where it's no longer possible to determine where the fuckup occured.
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>>8302590
I wonder if the depleting GPUs are why they're rushing things and frying the model with te training, excessive LR and raping the in-out blocks of vpred.
the worst part of all of this is it's still going to be the best local has had to offer, even when it's completely fucked up and could've been infinitely better.
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>>8302596
>does it even make sense?
that was the point of the successful test model, yes
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>>8302596
yes
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Freedoms saars.
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>>8302590
>512x
>128x
>32x
>16x.
>8x!!
>4x!!!!
>TWO EXX!!!!!!!!!!
>THE CHINK BAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>8302601
test model? They never planned on baking their own model anon
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>>8302593
>Someone is absolutely taking this project hostage on the inside and forcing bad choices/rushed releases wtf
anon, those people were always this way
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>>8302252
very nice style, do you have a box for that?
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Today is my birthday, can I get some party themed gens to celebrate anons?
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Angel sent a decree in the Eugecord, is local saved?
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Why didn't NAI train controlnets after all this time btw? Is it due to controlnets' licensing or something?
Like there is an explanation why they can't add loras; they trained this director tools so it's not like they are not doing anything. What could be the issue with canny/openpose controlnets for them?
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>>8302627
No? He literally said that he also can't train vpred model. Either they start training cosxl or contact public enemy of hdg to help them. But they will most likely just give up.
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Orange man won, where do I redeem my 16ch vae hentai model?
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>>8302631
>public enemy of hdg to help them
Who would that be?
Kurumuz would show them the finger obviously and Astrashart didn't train vpred so why would they even consider xhem
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>>8302631
I told euge who to ask for v-pred help already. Can't help it if he'd rather listen to discordtroons
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>>8302632
go scream at the chinamen to give up vpred and instead try sd3m
would it be better, who knows
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>>8302500
Why do you keep shitting up our threads, faggot?
>>8301052
>>8301106
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>>8302642
uh oh nogen melty!
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>>8302648
a little too OOC on that expression
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>>8302649
that's her twin sister. see, no leg tattoo. ez
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>>8302642
Because he's a retard, please understand
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highlight sisters...our thread...
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one day we'll get a model that can do three quarter view reliably
maybe I won't even have to pay 100 bucks a week for it
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iatroon status?
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>>8302656
The janny finally went out and archived all other threads. It's only a matter of time for it to happen which is why this one survived. Still a Great night tho. See:
>>8302603
>>8302575
>>8302539
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>>8302658
Previous Thread Highlights

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>>8302658
Previous Thread Highlights

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>>8302658
Xhe's already dead
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I am unable to find any good setting for adetailer on the vpred 5k, it's always frying the images like there is no tomorrow, and all hands are worse than SD1.5 gens.

Hopefully it's just underbaked.
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This month's highlights:
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>>8302658
>>8302664
'sup
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>>8302666
thanks satan
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>>8302668
based
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>>8302674
Based on what?
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>>8302675
loli is based
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>>8302666
EPIC
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is it pony
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>>8302666
the colors are popping
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>>8302671
>>8302672
>>8302677
More of her?
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>>8302681
it's nai
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It's a little ironic how the troon thread got btfo right after the election results
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Total Miqomix victory
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>>8302687
but we are posting in it? still good election results.
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>>8302642
Last two are me, close
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why are there still troons prompting on pony?
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>love how bodies look with certain artists
>love how faces look with others
pain
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They're not biting today, eh
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>>8302694
just use those artists in adetailer with a high denoise
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>>8302694
inpaint face afterwards?
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>>8302696
>just use those artists in adetailer with a high denoise
Does this actually work?
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>>8302696
yeah pretty much but still pain in the ass
and I always inpaint by hand
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>>8302699
why wouldnt it?
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>>8302693
I Just Think They're Neat
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>>8302695
Good night was good.
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3ktextgen status?
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>>8302704
kys
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>>8302701
Because it does consider the rest of the image to some degree. Like how you can't use different artists with regional prompter, the style gets mostly averaged over the whole image.

Anyway, that's what I would expect to happen.
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>>8302706
It will still have noticeable influence. Issue is that the styles might visibly clash, depending on the denoise you are using.
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>>8302704
Not today friend, we're still in the refractory period from the other day
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Why are the 1.0 vpred models not on Civit? Are they heavy WIP or something?
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>>8302709
>heavy WIP
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>>8302704
it would take pony or a completely new model for shitposters to regain their power
i think everyone is pretty much resigned to noob being kinda disappointing
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>>8302643
box please?!
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Did all the troons migrate to /pol/ already? They'll have to work overtime for the next 4 years
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>>8302718
>did all the shitposters migrate to the most prime shitposting place on this site at the moment?
gee anon, who knows
>>
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>>8302721
pol is too fast for shitposts to be enjoyable
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>>8302723
most shitposters are zoomers now that just want instant gratification you's though
nobody gives shitposts time stew and ripen anymore
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>>8302694
name some of each
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>>8302726
I bet it's zankuro
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>>8302729
How do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>8302718
>Did all the troons migrate to /pol/ already?
Yep. If not still in denial, they are either in panic or full damage control.
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>>8302729
RUMBLING
RUMBLING
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>>8302614
Happy birthday anon-sama
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>>8302730
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>>8302733
Thanks!
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>>8302736
cute, best wishes
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Can we get more impreg and creampie gens to celebrate the end to baby killing?
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>>8302074
Coming back after running it overnight. I think i like it quite a bit, fingers seem magically more consistent and there seems to be more coherence. Only thing that sucks is colors look a little flatter from 0.5. Gonna fiddle with it some more and see what else. It's for sure more stiff then 0.5 i get less "cool" variance in gens but it feels solid.
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>>8302614
I forgot to post before I had a nap
Happy Birthday from a nogen, I feel like I'm betraying my people but here
https://files.catbox.moe/qnbm2m.jpg
(Boxed because not really /h/ and anything other than (huge breasts, enormous breasts, gigantic breasts:1.5) is underage to jannies these days)
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>>8302665
Hmm, can't believe nobody answered you, but this was already encountered, and basically you have to set adetailer to vpred separately in forge. There's a separate setting but I don't use forge so I don't remember where. Either search the archives or wait for anons that use forge to answer.
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Does putting the LoRa at the front of the prompt emphasize it more, or does it not matter?
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I'm gonna generate the forbidden loli ero gore, you can't stop me
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>>8302744
it's not that bad, come on. These have been up for days:
>>8297002
>>8297307
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>>8302750
people in here are drama queens as per usual. loli hasnt been removed from these threads in months
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Why is angel so fucking stupid? Using noise offset with vpred and no ztsnr. The whole point is to use ztsnr. Local really is doomed, I'm going to kill myself and call it.
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sakurabox
https://files.catbox.moe/ewp8ij.png

>>8302715
https://files.catbox.moe/mu6c8r.png
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>>8302751
dementia status?
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>>8302748
You mean the <lora:loraname> bit? WebUI/Forge eats it, so the model will never even see it. Though if the lora has a trigger prompt, its position matters.
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>>8302755
you tell me grandpa
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which sampler/scheduler you guys use with noob?
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it's so fucking over for localkeks
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>>8302751
Ask the oekaki anon who is bitching on treech every 5 days about getting banned here despite catboxing 90% of his images:)
If you have dynamic ip address you can roll the dice without fear, if you don't, well...
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>>8302751
false. I got a vacation a week or two ago
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>>8302751
Bait or retarded? Kill yourself
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>>8302761
that whole board only exists for him to vent now kek
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>>8302761
his stuff only gets removed because its /aco/
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>>8302753
I think it's hilarious he's finally chiming in on vpred training after seething, shitting and pissing himself and posting racist remarks against the chinese. Saas vulture and a troon, Angel is a clown
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>>8302754
Nice, thank you!
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>>8302753
>>8302713
It's all just overblown expectations. We hit diminishing returns with SDXL months ago, better color balance won't make the model significantly better than what you could already achieve with Vectorscope. Retraining on different datasets won't do much other than change the baked-in style bias. Even a NAIv3 leak wouldn't be massive at this point. We need a paradigm shift, either a new UNET arch, new TE or a more efficient way to finetune Flux.
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>>8302766
you out of worm bait fisherfriend?
captcha 8TARD
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>>8302767
>Angel is a clown
this desu
>>8302769
I'm pretty sure people aren't expecting miracles, were comparing to Nai which uses -- this will shock you - SDXL!
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>>8302769
Vpred ztsnr isn't just about better color balance.
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>>8302758
Euler a
Everyday
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>>8302769
nah vpred is pretty big for gen quality. I don't get what the fuck are the issues now though? The vpred test model euge made few weeks ago was pretty good for what it is (proof of concept). what's different with vpred now?
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>>8302767
can i get screenshots of the seething and shitting and pissing and racist remarks?
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>>8302760
its never over
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>>8302775
>what's different with vpred now?
I don't get this either, it seems like they're forcing him to use some suboptimal set up. he implied he trained with frozen out layers on his test but can't do that with the Nai tuner the noob team is using?
There's literally no hope if they can't fix this because they ruined their eps model training the TE
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>>8302776
sure, go look them up in archives they were posted here when it happened
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>>8302779
Sorry, frozen IN layers*
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>>8302706
I did a bunch of gens like this for the funny, it works fine as long as you properly consider the adetailer prompt and use decently high blending settings.
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>>8302729
Box please?
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the more i gen the more boring my ideas and tastes become its over for me
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>>8302788
I just scroll twitter or danbooru for character/pose inspiration
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>>8302788
rusty trombones are temporary, 1girling is eternal
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>>8302788
>the more i gen the more boring my ideas and tastes become its over for me
Its totally okay
Generate whatever pleases your autistic fixations
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>>8302791
this
I stopped genning for /h/, just make whatever I feel like then sort it into the correct thread.
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why don't they ask lodestone for help considering he did his vpred+ztsnr conversion of 1.5 like 100 epochs in lmao. are they just unaware?
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>>8302776
https://archived.moe/h/thread/8283184/#8285547
There are other screens in that thread and more seething from Angel but that'll get you started. I'm half convinced he's talking about using noise offset in the noob discord to try to sabotage them further, kek.
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>>8302794
kek..
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>>8302793
Every time they've asked lodestone for help lodestone goes off on some retarded tangent about whatever irrelevant project he's now or once worked on, he's useless. I'm not even sure why he's in that discord because it seems like he just wants to blog, not offer any meaningful information or advice.
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how do you balance small datasets? more repeats or more epochs? or just run standard 16epoch/2k iters?
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>>8302798
I feed Claude or Chatgpt my settings and tell it what the dataset size is then ask it what it thinks. It usually turns out good.
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>>8302800
But what's the general advice here? Do more steps? Or just pad the data with repeats to standard ~500 images per epoch and run old settings?
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>>8302802
There is very little difference between more repeats and more steps. And at batch size 1 there is in fact no difference at all.
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what are people using to caption these days? mixing cog with wd looks interesting but the llm taggers take a long time with a big dataset
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>>8302804
just wd tagger
I never prompt NL anyways so no need to confuse my lora
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>>8302804
vit-large/eva2-large with p=0.26/0.52
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>>8302804
Cog seems utterly fucking useless for /h/ purposes.
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>>8302806
shitposter-kun...
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>>8302808
not like florence any better
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>>8302809
please explain yourself
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>>8302811
That one's just WD but WAY worse.
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1.0 vpred status?
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>>8302788
Nice style. Box?
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>>8302816
doomed by retarded chinks and dying GPUs
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vpreg
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>>8302819
Can't they just ask Jordach for his cluster?
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>>8302821
His cluster (1x2090) is busy training 1.5...
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>>8300873
>>8300799
https://files.catbox.moe/6qn0pc.png

>>8299977
it's OC, you can summon her with: ninja,short hair, twintails,purple hair,puffy nipples, (petite), small breasts, red highleg leotard, toned,wide hips, thick thighs,purple eyes
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>>8302818
https://litter.catbox.moe/qf73b6.png
lora, might cause burning though: https://huggingface.co/4s8q9z3r4y7q617y/ydmix/blob/main/run_1/ydmix.safetensors
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>>8302825
Based
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https://files.catbox.moe/t7m17r.png
you know what, i'm happy with what we got now
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>>8302828
you find that merge better than either of them alone?
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>>8302785
this is cute, box?
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catboxcucks getting uppity again
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>>8302833
i guess? they're both good
cyberfix is kinda too dark for me
just experimenting
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>>8302832
Hildabox?
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>>8302835
don't you have a /pol/ thread to shit up instead?
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>>8302834
https://files.catbox.moe/nr4kjn.png
>>8302838
https://files.catbox.moe/0c26pd.png
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>>8302840
Thanks
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I notice no one is using the SPO lora for noob
anyone tried it?
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cvnny diet
https://files.catbox.moe/hucipc.png
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>>8302843
wao
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>>8302843
cnuuy bekfast
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>>8302843
total cvnny subsistence
https://files.catbox.moe/mvmh7j.png
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>>8302847
why are the eyes so fried?
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>>8302849
it's not that fried but adetailer machine broke
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hoeee... cnnuy....
https://files.catbox.moe/hydx2i.png
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>>8302851
>tummy
based
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>>8302852
super clean, box?
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>>8302854
it's pony
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>>8302855
it's animagine
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>>8302854
https://files.catbox.moe/lohj53.png
>>8302855
Obviously not.
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>>8302857
>it's nai
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>>8302858
Congratulations. You got me to do a search in civitai.

https://civitai.com/models/350642?modelVersionId=1008232
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>>8302853
it just werks
https://files.catbox.moe/477qcc.png
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>>8302860
wtf
actually a based model
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>>8302859
/e/ has been using this one for ages. I didn't realize it was capable of sex.
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>>8302746
Oh! thanks for the info, makes sense, I thought that it might have taken the same sampler if the advanced was enabled, I'll look for it.
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>>8302862
i mean the previous version was an animagine finetune and this one is an illustrious finetune
also by /e/ you mean literally one guy
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>>8302744
Thanks anon! Much appreciated!
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>>8302860
it's an alias for belly on e6
looks over the top, but downweightet will be erotic
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>>8302866
i've tested that theory and came to a conclusion that all of them look erotic and make me want to paint that child belly in jizz then fuck a baby into her
https://files.catbox.moe/x7ju0o.png
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>>8302869
0.7 is the best imo
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>>8302863
>>8302746
From waht I found out there is no fix / way yet in reforge, I'll switch to comfymeahwile then.

Searching by

>adetailer vpred

on archived.moe
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>>8302864
Possibly. The less interesting posters sort of blend together.
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>>8302871
https://archived.moe/h/thread/8260385/#8262341
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>>8302871
There is a way, you add advance model sampling to the enabled script list in adetailer settings. If you use the native impl by adding the state dict key to the checkpoint then this isn't necessary, but it is if you're using the extension.
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>>8302869
this gave me a boner
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>>8302878
Brother return that gen
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>>8302869
based
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>>8302878
The glitching out contrast mostly sticking to the border is honestly kinda aesthetic.
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>>8302278
oh no...
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>>8302873
>>8302875

Ah fuck, wrong search terms on my part hen, thanks anons!

Lets see how this works...
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>>8302879
I can't tell if you want a catbox or want me to delete it because I fried it.
https://files.catbox.moe/r6t1gt.png
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>>8302873
I know we are not fond of spoon feeding but this might be good to have in the OP for a few threads.
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Why are there no schizos today?
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>>8302890
They goon'd themselves too hard on the election. Turns out it was actually /pol/ all along.
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>>8302890
all on /pol/ probably
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>>8302890
Either celebrating or dooming over the election
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>>8302888
Agreed, and to save others the hassle you have to add 'advanced_model_sampling_script' to this setting to get adetailer to use vpred, it's the name of the python script in the advanced sampling extension
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>>8302898
chikanbox??
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>>8302890
the wave of noob 1.0 shitposting already passed. we might get some more shitposting once the vpred model is done unless everybody gave up on that already
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>>8302093
https://files.catbox.moe/7vha6w.png
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>>8302913
spunchbop
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fuck my life
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>>8302918
anon think of your poor ram...
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>>8302920
Peak.
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Okay the latest vrped model, on reforge with ztsnr + rescale seems to work really good.

Some people suggested APG, will have to check it.
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>>8302920
I'd vote for you.
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>>8302919
I'm OK for now, what I need is more vram.

I don't have high hopes for the 6th of jan when the 5000 series is announced, but I'm hoping for a 5080 24gb for ~1500€, else I'll go for the 5060Ti 16gb if they repeat the lineup form the 4000 series
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>>8302898
>>8302902
>>8302907
box please?
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>have regular commissioner
>they only want loli
>i don't like loli
first world problem
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>>8302926
send him to me
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>>8302893
love all the skindentation
catbox?
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>>8302924
24gb 5080 might release a year from now, honestly consider a used 3090, it just works
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>>8302926
it's a based commissioner, but you aren't. simple as.
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>>8302933
Base one is staying at 16gb so maybe the super goes to 24gb. I'd pay for that I just feel physically ill buying a 5090 for $2500. That's a whole ass fucking pc
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>>8302926
be the centrist then and do hebes
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>>8302922
>ztsnr
how do I use that?
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>>8302939
you enable it
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over status?
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>>8302941
under
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>>8302941
IT'S NOT OVER YET
Hellfire
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>>8302941
we're so barack
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ovaries status?
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>>8302941
noob is dead. long live noob
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>>8302945
fertilized
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>>8302941
we wanted vpred but we're getting fprey
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>>8302933
Then if the 5060Ti with 16gb comes out earlier and cheaper I'll just get that.
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>>8302941
i never stopped using illustrious
which kind of sucks because i'm having a much more difficult time getting good results out of it than pony wrt character training. not really sure why
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>>8302947
how, all the 500k eggs?
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>>8302955
for me character training is much easier but style training feels very schizo
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>>8302955
What do your training settings look like? My experience was the opposite, base Illu learned fine details much better without frying style when training characters.
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>>8302941
>>8302942
>>8302943
>>8302944
all me status?
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>>8302955
gen with noob refine with illus?
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>>8302960
unschizo'd
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>>8302887
nta but that look really unique so thanks for the box
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>>8302945
What do your training settings look like? My experience was the opposite, base Illu learned fine details much better without frying style when training characters.
>>8302947
What do your training settings look like? My experience was the opposite, base Illu learned fine details much better without frying style when training characters.
>>8302950
What do your training settings look like? My experience was the opposite, base Illu learned fine details much better without frying style when training characters.
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>>8302964
reschizo'd
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great the schizos are back
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>>8302959
https://litter.catbox.moe/2qssf8.json
this is the latest iteration that i'm testing. using DOP has managed to mostly completely negate style learning if i use the appropriate captions in the negatives but the actual character detail is fucked. i've tried schedulefree and different LRs and batch sizes and training on the base model or style merges and there's pretty much always a noticeable lack of detail and i think it's because illustrious's base understanding of this character is inherently fucked up
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>>8302957
for me character training is much easier but style training feels very schizo
>>8302956
i never stopped using illustrious
which kind of sucks because i'm having a much more difficult time getting good results out of it than pony wrt character training. not really sure why
>>8302962
gen with noob refine with illus?
>>8302964
over status?
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schizo status?
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>>8302926
i have to know if he is based, which loli?
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>>8302967
*black
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>>8302960
confirmed
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>>8302966
https://litter.catbox.moe/2qssf8.json
this is the latest iteration that i'm testing. using DOP has managed to mostly completely negate style learning if i use the appropriate captions in the negatives but the actual character detail is fucked. i've tried schedulefree and different LRs and batch sizes and training on the base model or style merges and there's pretty much always a noticeable lack of detail and i think it's because illustrious's base understanding of this character is inherently fucked up
>>8302967
I'm OK for now, what I need is more vram.

I don't have high hopes for the 6th of jan when the 5000 series is announced, but I'm hoping for a 5080 24gb for ~1500€, else I'll go for the 5060Ti 16gb if they repeat the lineup form the 4000 series
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>Finally get around to doing my shitmix on noobv10
>vpred is already being previewed and likely dropping in the next few days
It never ends, does it?
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>>8302970
what are people using to caption these days? mixing cog with wd looks interesting but the llm taggers take a long time with a big dataset
>>8302972
what are people using to caption these days? mixing cog with wd looks interesting but the llm taggers take a long time with a big dataset
>>8302973
what are people using to caption these days? mixing cog with wd looks interesting but the llm taggers take a long time with a big dataset
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>>8302945
Empty and dry.
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>>8302978
HAGSEX
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>>8302977
>Not tagging by hand
Ngmi
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There's something funny about Euge and the rest of the team failing to train vpred and refusing help with it from only people who succeed while also giving compute to a random chinese dude to train controlnets.
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>>8302983
the chinese love making desaturated 1girl, standings with controlnet that's why they invented it
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>>8302983
please use a different comment to copypasta that doesn't come from a wdV troon
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okay, it's been fun having a nice non-retarded thread for a couple of hours, see you next time
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>>8302983
I've been unironically reading both discords since the start, every message (I hate myself). He has gone off multiple times now spazzing about it, beyond what you said. Likely he didn't directly use the name "angel" when referring to him hence why you don't see it. I really do not care enough about this to do anything but correct basic information, but I swear it's there and happened. I've actually come to find him one of the more annoying characters because he's so whiny and cocksucky like that
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A small comp with the s4000 vpred model
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>>8302986
same here, going to the other thread
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>>8302984
okay, it's been fun having a nice non-retarded thread for a couple of hours, see you next time
>>8302986
please use a different comment to copypasta that doesn't come from a wdV troon
>>8302983
>Not tagging by hand
Ngmi
>>8302988
nta but that look really unique so thanks for the box
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Why shouldn't I goon to the same character every day?
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How do I replicate the OR effect for keywords with forge? Let's say I want the hair color to be either red or blue (not both), so for example batch/pic #1 to use "red hair" and batch/pic #2 to use "blue hair", then again "red hair", etc. I suspect maybe matrix or x/y plot can be used for that but I don't get how to use them and finding coherent guides for this is a pain. Help me OR ELSE.
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>>8302995
it's pony
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>>8302993
I'll go visit /slop/ meanwhile
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>>8302981
You shouldn't call the earthly avatar of God that.
>>8302997
Something like this?
https://github.com/adieyal/sd-dynamic-prompts?tab=readme-ov-file#magic-prompt
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>>8302999
please stay in your containment thread
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>>8303002
why is it so mad?
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>>8303002
mmmmm... nyo :3
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>>8302998
I don't get this either, it seems like they're forcing him to use some suboptimal set up. he implied he trained with frozen out layers on his test but can't do that with the Nai tuner the noob team is using?
There's literally no hope if they can't fix this because they ruined their eps model training the TE
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>>8303002
>>8303003
>>8303004
>>8303005
models do get temporarily "fried" during high lr phases in cosine annealing training
idk what scheduler they're using tho
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>>8302999
just wd tagger
I never prompt NL anyways so no need to confuse my lora
>>8303002
Congratulations. You got me to do a search in civitai.

https://civitai.com/models/350642?modelVersionId=1008232
>>8303003
Alright.
I think the anatomy is a tiny bit worse.
Hopefully this can be corrected. I really like some of the kino backgrounds it's generating for me at the moment.
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>>8300687
I post in slop occasionally and the way genning "[random popular anime girl] with big butt please" for someone ONE (1) time spirals into him begging for his waifu in a billion poses so fast needs to be studied
>>
So how's the new vpred?
Worth switching to from the old test version? Because I've been having the best results from all the models with that one.
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>>8303000
Oh this looks like it should work but god damn why is every little thing that feels like it should be easy and straightforward requires me to AAAAAAAAAAAA

To be fair though boorus don't support OR tags themselves and I also hate that.
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>>8303010
why don't they ask lodestone for help considering he did his vpred+ztsnr conversion of 1.5 like 100 epochs in lmao. are they just unaware?
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>>8303010
i mean, what kind of "people" do you think lurk those threads without being able to gen for themselves?
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>>8303010
it just feels like there are 5-6 people constantly edging in those threads and they get an image, stroke a bit, and type with one hand "please do buttjob girl with cum please big boob" as they await their next slop image
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>>8302997
Dynamic prompts. Enable combinatorial generation if you want 1 pic with option 1 and 1 pic with option 2.
Give me your box. Now.
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>>8300809
I'm waiting on more noobai generations at this point, not going back to pony's artist hashing bullshit after this (and the difference in quality between noob 0.5 and 0.1 is pretty impressive considering how close they are)
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adetailer and img2img are frying my gens with the vpred model on reforge, any ideas? they're all using the same model, same cfg, same samplers and everything
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>>8301062
how baked they are directly correlates to image count on danbooru, so an artist with 1000 posts will snuff out one with 100 even though 100 should be enough to pick up the style unless you fuck with weights. It's a learning curve but I think it'll be worth it
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>for reasons unknown to even Satan himself, yoinked has to yet again try to shill using the neurosis trainer, despite faggles repeated failbakes being blamed on its botched code
I don't get it, does someone pay him for this shit?
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>>8303024
you posted this yesterday anonie
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>>8303025
How do I make good looking anime gens with Noob? I've even tried copying tag lists from Danbooru posts into my prompt but at least 70% of the girls have a snout and half of them are wearing diapers. Is that intended?
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>>8302992
bottom is pretty good
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>>8303026
It's pony.
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>>8303018
>Dynamic prompts. Enable combinatorial generation
Don't see that anywhere in the forge

>Give me your box. Now.
Sorry that wasn't AI art...
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>>8303029
snake oil is fake, it does nothing
this clearly does "something", for better or worse
>>
hello janny?
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>>8303030
You have to download the plugin if you want to use it.
>that wasn't AI art
You can't post actual good art here, it's like giving heroin to a guy that just got over his addiction, come on man.
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>>8303030
I am unable to find any good setting for adetailer on the vpred 5k, it's always frying the images like there is no tomorrow, and all hands are worse than SD1.5 gens.

Hopefully it's just underbaked.
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>>8302997
>>8303013
I mean you could just use a wildcard?
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>>8303031
is there a bot just posting random shit here and replying to random people?
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>>8303036
yes
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>>8303031
Reforge can use vpred if it's updated recently?
>>8303032
Why are the 1.0 vpred models not on Civit? Are they heavy WIP or something?
>>8303033
So uh... EPs pred is unfinished and te is out of synch, GPUs are dwindling rapidly, vpred is being half assed over top of the fucked up 1.0 model, and they're training a CN that won't even work with the vpred model?

Someone is absolutely taking this project hostage on the inside and forcing bad choices/rushed releases wtf
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>>8301333
are you taking requests? I assume this is for artists with little enough art that the style doesn't show up in noob
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>>8303036
its copying earlier post and reposting it while quoting random post, we already had this shitpost tactic a few weeks ago
guess the shitposter is having a melty with the election or something
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what the actual fuck
cursed shit
https://files.catbox.moe/2uahdu.png
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>>8303041
If the cross was upside down, it'd look like a plausible enemy design for FAITH desu.
>>
with prompt editing and noob 1.0 you can do real depraved shit
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>>8303041
kinda kino
thats quite a lot of artist tho
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>>8303041
>Adaptation to the changes described in Section 2 was quite fast. While the initial step, initialized
from the original SDXL weights, showed only noise, our first set of samples, output after about 30
minutes (wall time) of training, was already coherent.
Convert the 256xH100x30minutes to Euge/Lax compute and you get the idea but that isn't really telling because NAI started at the beginning, before any knowledge was learned.
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>>8303033
My apologies...

>>8303035
Still requires extension no?
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>>8303039
not really requests. suggestions sure and only for noobvpredtest. not messing with 1.0 until vpred comes out
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>>8303041
as someone who's been going out of their way for cursed shit this arouses me
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>>8303040
nah vpred is pretty big for gen quality. I don't get what the fuck are the issues now though? The vpred test model euge made few weeks ago was pretty good for what it is (proof of concept). what's different with vpred now?
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>>8303048
if I may ask how much does vpred tend to help? Should I anticipate a similar quality jump to the one from 0.5-1.0?
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>>8303030
since someone else posted feet I'll take it as a sign I can post the footfag gen I spent like 30 minutes inpainting
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why is the schizo reposting bait instead of making his own? lazy ass baitie, needs correction!!
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>>8303051
Okay the latest vrped model, on reforge with ztsnr + rescale seems to work really good.
Some people suggested APG, will have to check it.
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>>8303051
it'll be a quality jump in color range and contrast. i wouldn't expect much more than that, although keep in mind i don't think the 1.0 version we got is being converted to vpred--afaik they are still training eps some more
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>>8303053
No? He literally said that he also can't train vpred model. Either they start training cosxl or contact public enemy of hdg to help them. But they will most likely just give up.
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>>8303051
the current vpred test is super scuffed so don't expect too much. the old one is a lot more stable but less knowledgeable. i recommend apg over rescale.
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>>8303048
Out of curiosity, what would you say is the biggest difference between training for a character and training for a style for Vpred? I've been doing prodigy bakes with around ~1.2k steps for 60 pics and they've been pretty good, but I wanna do some styles too since almost nobody shares vpred loras save for you and the mediafire guy who's my GOAT.
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>>8303052
foot fag gens have always had a place here
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>>8303044
>thats quite a lot of artist tho
artist spam is common for nai, and I was experimenting right now anyway
but yeah this mix keeps producing weird shit with this prompt
https://files.catbox.moe/e2yk0i.png
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>>8303051
id try starting with a big-bodied character and adding toned female, and try things like abs and muscular at low or zero weights
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funny
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>>8303056
I'll just stick with 1.0 for now, I guess. It tends to get a lot more creative with posing and composition which I prefer even if it results in more wonky anatomy to inpaint when it gets ambitious
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>>8302992
How did you make cfg rescale to work on reforge? Doesn't change the image at all for me
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>>8300548
WHY THE F*UCK DO THESE NOT WORK?
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>>8303061
>>8303062
>>8303064
>>8303066
>>8303068
bot posts
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>>8303069
you dummy
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>>8303069
Catbox blocked India
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>>8303059
i haven't had a character that i've wanted to gen that illus/noob doesn't know so i haven't bothered with character training but i'd see no reason why there would be a difference outside of the traditional differences between style and char loras (i.e. char loras take less steps and train faster typically)
>>8303066
whenever i haven't felt like messing around with dark/vibrant scenes i've been using 1.0 with vpred loras and they work perfectly fine
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>>8303073
>i'd see no reason why there would be a difference outside of the traditional differences
Gotcha, thanks.
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>pony can do different colour blushes
>noob can do non-melted eyes without inpainting
>neither can do the other's strength
aieee
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>>8303076
no
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>>8303077
just train a lora bro
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>>8303077
obviously we should mix them
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>>8303079
It's such a small detail that I have absolutely no clue how I'd go about training that.
>>8303080
True. Renting a setup with 2 a6000s right now.
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>>8303079
this but unironically (color blushes)
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>>8303081
>>>/trash/
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>>8303082
Dunno, find a bunch of pictures of blushing girls with colored skin and tag the [color]_blush with a script matching it to their skin color or something. No idea if that would actually work
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>>8303077
there are layers to this bait
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>>8303086
Despite this thread being 90% bait, I have never posted bait.
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>>8303081
Shes cute
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>>8301333
which vpred version is this for?
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>>8303077
>>8303087
do you mean cheek blush? just use prompt mixing like [green mask:makeup:.2] or something.
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going back to just batch size 1 and training for 3k steps has worked pretty well, i guess it just needed more steps to get the shapes of everything right.
still a big problem with the "nia" token being inherently fried in illustrious. i tried using synonyms before but that mostly just made training shit itself for some reason. i don't know if any amount of training is going to be able to fix that
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>>8303089
https://civitai.com/models/833294?modelVersionId=962003
noob vpred test
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>>8303090
Oh right danbooru has the "rouge (makeup)" tag so you could probably use that also blush is leaning pink. Pretty much anything color wise can be done with prompt mixing.
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>>8302997
>>8303000
>>8303018
>>8303035
Actually I figured out the way with just forge.

Script > Prompts from file or textbox
Insert prompts at the [end]

List of prompt inputs (example):
red hair,
blue hair,

Need to make sure you have a linebreak for each tag or tag group.
For every batch it creates amount of variants corresponding to amount of lines in list of prompt inputs. So if you have batch count = 1, it will generate 1 batch for red hair, 1 batch for blue hair, etc.

>>8303052
Still need to learn how to inpaint.

>>8303060
Based.
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>>8303090
>>8303093
You got a guide for prompt mixing? I've never actually used this (or seen it used).
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If I'm training a lora on a vpred model, are there any other settings I need to enable compared to the default ones?
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>>8303099
--zero_terminal_snr, v_parameterization. scale_v_pred_loss_like_noise_pred
I don't know what the arguments are for the last two, since I use the gui.
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>>8303027
I agree.

>>8303068
I just enable it, nothing happens or you get an error?
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>>8303097
I use it heavily since it can be a way of making new tags or switching from an artstyle with good anatomy to one with good color.
I don't think there are any great guides since it really varies from prompt to prompt.
>[first half of steps:last half of steps:step to switch on]
the step to switch on can be something like 10 for step 10 or .5 for half way through in general.
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>>8301551
Box?
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>>8303105
I see. When I tried that first green mask one, it put a mask on a wall next to the girl lol. Now that I know what it's actually doing, I think I can make it work.
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so is 1.0 better than 0.5?
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>>8303107
Yeah sorry that was more just an example. If you can find other color specific face tags on danbooru you might have a better shot with it.
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>>8303077
works on my machine
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>>8303112
What's the prompt?
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>>8303114
((blue) blush) got it to work a good 2/3rds of the time for me
https://files.catbox.moe/mdd5xl.png
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>>8303109
I like s4000/s5000 1.0, rescale CFG is a must tho, over 0.5-0.75.

the first vpred test version is really good tho, I keep using it as well.
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I have not been able to test Noob 1.0, are the colors like 0.5 or 0.75? Because 0.5 worked great for me, but 0.75 was always too saturated and cartoony (for my taste)
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>>8303117
1.0 is even more saturated than 0.75
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>>8303115
tight robopussy...
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How come nobody's been posting NAI gens? You guys know it's only $25 a month for unlimited* free generations on their state of the art anime model, right?
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>>8303123
the fish aren't even nibbling anymore
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>>8303123
It has an outdated dataset and is biased towards cuckshit (i.e. put "multiple boys, group sex, dark-skinned male" in the negatives and STILL get a nigger gangbang).
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>>8303123
I like NAI for certain basic bitch 1girl type gens, but that's obviously not the sort of thing I'm going to post around here
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>>8303123
noob exists now
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>>8303127
ononoki's fat, frigid ass...
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>>8303123
nai only does good gens at full res and only richfags like shutenanon can do that nonstop and he's dead
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so what to use to train loras for illustrious?

Base illustriousXL_v01 or the new noobai v1 finetune?
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>>8303103
Nevermind, I was trying to use old extension for that. Usable even for epsilon version though
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anyone here is genning hebes? artists mixes good for it?
so far it's all or nothing, it's either very loli or just regular wide hips basic bitches
i'm trying mixing cunny artists with non cunny ones, weighting and switching between positives and negs tags like loli, curvy, petite, wide hips etc. but the results are very meh
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why cant I use 10 loras and not get blurry stuff?
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>>8303136
unironically hebes come out better with /aco/ styles
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>>8303136
maybe try blue borscht at low weight
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>>8303137
it means at least one of them is fried, try to add them one by one
you may have to reduce weight below 1.0, you will often see authors recommend using their loras at for example 0.6~0.9, i tend to use loras at 0.3~0.5
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yet another day of praying for nai3 to leak
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>>8303142
this but dall-e 3
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>>8303133
shitbox status?
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>>8303143
but you wouldn't be able to run dall-e 3
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>>8303143
i dont think dall-e would be good for /h/ gens
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>>8303146
Sure, but it should be freed from Microsoft anyway as a matter of principle.
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>>8303150
i love how smug she is
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>>8303140
already tried to age up styles like healthyman, oppossum, it just doesn't work well
sad that there is basically no artists making mainly this body type, like maybe as109 to some extend but still that's mostly just loli
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>>8303154
>>8303150
holy fuck pls gib data...
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>>8303157
lmao
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>>8303150
>>8303154
attentionbox?
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What I did some time ago was delete my sdxl setup, setup flux instead and wait. Nothing happened till now, should I give up on flux and setup noob
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>>8303127
>>8303020
nice bro
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>>8303156
looking for random artists a bit remora180 might be able to pull it off with the right tags, your best bet is probably just fucking with weights until something works
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>>8303127
bootybox, please
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>>8303161
Just buy a NAI sub.
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>>8303165
https://files.catbox.moe/we3tre.png
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>>8303133
anon delete this before they catch you or the shitposters mass report you
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>>8303136
what the fuck are hebes? jews?
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>>8303133
>>8303162
Box?
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>>8303164
thanks, i'm trying to search flat_chest -loli on gelbooru, but most of good ones are just random singletons, no dedicated artist whatsoever
weighting negs works mostly for one singular pose, just different angle and proportions will change completely
>>8303172
lolis basically, just not oppossum borderline toddlercon shit
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>>8303136
I'm genning on nai but I like tsurui, pottsness, ratatatat74, kawakami rokkaku, fkey, atte nanakusa (kinda leans loli-ish maybe), alphonse (white datura), yamamoto souichirou, kotoyama
those that came to mind kinda
not an artist mix but the tags might be useful for hebes
I also add acoshit artists like incase sometimes but might release mustard gas
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>>8303136
sincos
https://files.catbox.moe/6joxsr.png
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>>8303180
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>>8303168
cute https://litter.catbox.moe/8vt82l.png
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>>8303178
I wonder how they determine if pic is allowed on danbooru. I checked Magnetus, he's got a page there with all the socials linked but zero images. But Incase stuff gets to stay?
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>>8303186
Props to the chiaroscuro anon for his lora. Really fun stuff. Mood makes or breaks a prompt.
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>>8303189
danbooru's moderation queue is kind of a joke and builders and up can just bypass it to upload whatever slop they want
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thanks
>>8303179
>>8303178
ah, i didn't tried to make Kuro on noob yet
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is it normal to have to neg blue background for the new vpred version?
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>>8300607
Don't have them anymore, so here's the artist combo
(by quasarcake, by merrytail, by dino \(dinoartforame\), by omone hokoma agm, by nanoless:0.9), (by yaegashi nan, by xingzhi lv, by arsenixc:0.4),

>>8301199
you can
the Rescale Noise Schedule toggle enables ztSNR + v-pred
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>>8303199
>you can
Oh shit, thanks.
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local is fucking doomed
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>>8303175
sure
https://files.catbox.moe/kk5vjg.png
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>>8303213
so this is the power of noob
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kek
shitty gen but I love those random cummy hearts
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>>8303213
nice colors, very vivid
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>>8303216
schizo take
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>>8302441
there's still the basic problem that booru compositions are bright as fuck and there are zero tags that independently control light level. 95% of the images under the "dark" tag are bright as fuck.
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>>8303224
okay train your own vantablack nigger model then retard
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>>8303225
i did
pixeldrain u/7M69yR25
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based chadmix GOD dabbing on the nogens
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okay im out of the loop
personalmix 1.0, better than noob 0.5? or am i getting snake oiled
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>>8303231
It mogged 0.5, 0.75 and 1.0 in all my tests. Unless you have some kind of data cap I don't see why you wouldn't just test it yourself though
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>>8303231
i havent tried that one because i instantly recoiled at the merge from some random XL realism model
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>>8302437
>While ztSNR is a huge benefit that only v-pred makes possible, v-pred is prone to overfitting and makes certain concepts impossible to generate that are possible in an eps-based prediction model
>certain concepts impossible to generate that are possible in an eps-based prediction model
Any examples? I thought there are no downsides to v-pred
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>>8303231
it's been good for me so far
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Anyone get just a blob of color as the output sometimes on vpred?
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>>8303233
also using the 1.0 TE sounds objectively wrong unless you're making specialized tentacle gens describing the shape and texture of the tentacles or what have you
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>>8303231
sidegrade from it at best adds the shiny realism garbage that all these mixes do too. it's better than 1.0 though because it's not fried
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I wish the styles section was more like extra networks so I could save artist mixes. I tried making an extension that does that but then hit the roadblock of apparently activation text in hypernetworks code functions differently than styles.csv so if you put a lora in there it fucks up prompt injection so it's more like it would need a re-write.
I know we all mostly just use it as a quick way of adding quality tags but if it's going to be called styles I should be able to have visuals.
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I wonder if there's a chance for NAIv3 to leak when they are forced to shut down once Trump gets into office, since they plan to ban all pornographic content.
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man the s4000-s5000 vpred models without rescale cfg burn my eyes, too much contrast/colors
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>>8303233
I think you're thinking of NobbAiCyberfix, personalmerge doesn't seem to have any random xl realism model merged into it. it's a merge of a shitload of shitmixes though
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>>8303241
begone fillyfucker
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>>8303242
just use rescale then?
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>>8303243
then wtf does this mean in the description?
>Seems to be quite an improvement for hands and human body, thanks to NoobaiCyberFix fix recipe.(hands and human body from CyberRealistic XL and text encoder CLIP from NoobAI-XL v1.0)
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>>8303246
Weird, maybe he meant to link the cyberfix shitmix instead of noob 1.0? I only looked at the merge recipe, my bad
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>>8303241
what the fuck do they have to fear in roachland?
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>>8303248
personal has noob inside
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>>8303231
>personalmix
The what? Civitai search isn't returning anything.
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>>8303251
Well yeah but maybe the base was cyberfix instead of noob 1.0
>>8303252
It's actually called personal merge https://civitai.com/models/835655?modelVersionId=1023901
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>>8303253
The side you linked exactly tells you what he used. 8:4:2:1:1 with noob being the 8
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>>8303240
why aren't you just waiting for ani's gui?
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>>8303255
I haven't been on /g/ for a year is Ani making a GUI now?
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>>8303240
Can you not use the dynamic prompt and wildcard. It gives you nice drop down when you call it with all the tags and stuff you saved.
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>>8303258
he's making a c++ app for sdcpp and comfy
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>>8303260
Any screenshots? I kind of thought he went off the deep end so I'm surprised hes doing anything.
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>>8303253
Seems like snake oil tbqhwyf. Also fucks up her original outfit way more.
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>>8303262
https://github.com/FizzleDorf
the only thing we know of is he is pounding away every single day
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>>8303264
nice gen though
only those earrings look out of place
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>>8303265
>sai employee
when did that happen?
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>>8303267
>6 fingers where even Noob 1.0 got them right
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>>8303265
Oh so there really isn't anything yet
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holy shitmix, it's got cunny, ojisans and nearing 1.5 backgrounds. Only V-pred left to wait for.
https://files.catbox.moe/7p3yq7.png
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>>8303272
I'm not sure what there is, he kind of stopped posting. I'm hoping we hear from him soon about it it's already been a long time
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>>8303273
seems like the more you shitmix the more you converge to pony
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>>8303273
>it's got cunny, ojisans and nearing 1.5 backgrounds
and that's a good thing
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>>8303275
He probably hit the bottle again anon...
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threw an older random gen into the new snake oil, noob 0.5 vs personal 1.0
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>>8303269
>got them right
those look right to you? seriously?
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>>8303283
Well, both hands have 5 fingers so that's a start.
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>>8303276
The biggest issue is the realism/SDXL merge completely ruins contrast, since they didn't train with the zt-snr. Impossible to get dark scenes on shitmixes.
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for noob there are only slopmerge shitmixes, noobieater, and chadmix
illu 0.1 checkpoints are replicating early pony slop with overfitted styles
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>>8303285
the fingers are way too long though. That's not right, that's just a different kind of shit.
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>>8303288
IMO much less glaring of an issue than extra/missing fingers.
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>>8303276
Some people enjoy the sloppa 2.5d "realism" anime look and the anime only models can't replicate it
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>>8303291
nta, yeah and I don't hate those styles. But pony does them very well already. I don't see the point of pushing illu in that direction, it's a specialized anime model.
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>>8303291
>>8303293
niggas don't even know they can just prompt (dikko:1.4) and get the aom2 fried 2.5d style...
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>>8303295
early illu/noob adopters were the only ones that liked anime
the core civitai users WANT inane slop
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>back orb doesn't show up unless it's super weighted and chest jewel is super weighted, still usually either the wrong color or wrong shape or just doesn't appear
>leg spots don't show up unless it's heavily weighted and then it just turns her into a furry
>still in the wrong place anyways
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oh my efforterino can i subscribe to your patreon saar
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>>8303273
>1.5 backgrounds
Now you have my attention. Will test, early results are looking promising compared to my current meta.
https://files.catbox.moe/cixp76.png
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>>8303302
hands status?
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>>8303301
what model? and 1.0 or 0.5 TE?
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>>8303304
wrapped around my black cock
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>>8303301
thanks uhh umm ermmm clip maybe?
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>>8303305
illustrious
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>>8303309
0.1 base? nobody's actually using that
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>>8303310
kys shill
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>>8303310
people who like actually like anime art are using it
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>>8303313
t. hates furry
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>>8303313
you could at least use smoothft
base 0.1 has the knowledge but it's not aesthetically tuned at all
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>>8303308
i don't think that this is clip. i'm using chest jewel for the chest jewel and back gem for the back gem but i think that gem and jewel are close enough to each other conceptually that the ai has a hard time differentiating them because of latent space or something idk
>>8303310
i am
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>>8303315
you just train a lora, unironically
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>>8303317
you can also train a lora to style wrangle noob which is arguably a better route since you get better fine detail and subject broadness
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>>8303317
which is fine, but probably better if you just did your own checkpoint instead of settling for low rank
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>>8303318
not interested in training on a furry poisoned model again after i already escaped pony unless vpred turns out good
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>>8303303
but what is this model?
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>>8302832
>Hilda
Based
>not taking it in the ass
I mean, I still love it, but it just ain't the same.
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>>8303320
if you load the illu text encoder you are literally just getting a better booru model
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>>8303321
she looks ready to defeat orc cocks
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>>8303326
but noob's unet is also trained on several epochs on all of e621?
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Why is it called v predator?
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>>8303333
Vagina eater
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>>8303333
Because it's paired with an f prey model
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i’ve never trained a lora but i’m interested in training a style lora for Noob, how hard is this? also does anyone have a tutorial i could follow?
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>>8303341
yes, there are tutorials you can follow
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>>8303345
(amputee)
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Now I'm conflicted. It does some things good, like composition and body part accuracy. But it getting some things wrong, like color and style. The backgrounds and overall image are also more simplistic and rigid.

https://files.catbox.moe/v4si29.png
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https://files.catbox.moe/5ip6e1.png

>>8303322
It's in the images.
https://civitai.com/models/835655/illustrious-xl-personal-merge-noob-10-merge-updated
https://civitai.com/models/852957?modelVersionId=954302
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>>8303349
I think I'll just go back to using 0.5 until vpred
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>>8303342
mind pointing me to one? how hard is it?
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>>8303349
We should disqualify that one based on the name alone, it'd be stupid to call it "personal merge".
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>>8303199
other than rescale, what else do I have to enable/change in OneTrainer? I'm getting NaNs.
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>>8303349
IillustriousXLPersonalMerge_v30Noob10based was the best model of all the ones I've tested so far, it does everything better than the others.
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>>8303357
based
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I'm just too stupid to use noob correctly

https://litter.catbox.moe/ebp6xi.png
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>>8303356
don't enable any noise modifiers like noise offset, perturbation noise, etc
Don't use debiased_estimation unless you edit the code and use the version specifically tweaked for vpred
Just use uniform to be safe
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>>8303362
Does that mean I should also switch max noising strength to 0? Or does it not matter since the weight is at 0?
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>>8303358
There's more body accuracy, but there is also color bleeding and loss of prompt knowledge compared to base ill. The backgrounds aren't as strong as zoo. I think I'll be staying with zoo after all.
https://files.catbox.moe/vdiorf.png
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>>8303364
nah that should be at 1 as usual
that's part of the noise defenition rather than an additional modifier really
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>>8303369
the backgrounds on the left are unironically better and more accurate though?
you didnt prompt for any of that shit zoot put there
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>>8303349
>>8303369
You're not even prompting any backgrounds, of course you're gonna get garbage.
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so is noobai better than nai atp?
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>>8303372
why is that slut letting him touch her?
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>>8303375
both bad, we are waiting for the real next revolution in AI images. The ones now are all the same shit.
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>>8303375
Better for farting_on_prey and I_can't_believe_it's_not_feces maybe.
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>>8303376
Why not?
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>>8303381
>I_can't_believe_it's_not_feces
but NAI is still the king for blacked porn
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>>8303373
>>8303374
I'm not saying personal can't make backgrounds. I'm just saying I like zoos results better. I shouldn't have to ask for every little detail in a background. In this case, the additional items from the tag "izakaya" is implied.
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>>8303388
link of zoos?
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>>8303388
some might object to making Ram look 5 years older
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>>8303389
Both models are here. Check and test them for yourself.
>>8303349
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illustrious and noob's biggest consequence is separating the slop genners and the prompt whisperers
slop genners relied on the random insertions by overfitted models and resent regressions in 1girl, dark-skinned male proompts
prompt whisperers feel liberated by the stricter, more coherent adherence to tags. unfortunately finding such proompters is very difficult with civitai gens balkanized between dominant slop merges and a thousand niche model pages. and aibooru being firmly in the slop sucker category still dominated by homogenized pony and novelai'ers.
/hdg/ unironically has the most prompt innovation in one place in spite of the shitposts
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3D on illu needs a lot of work
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>>8303393
Thanks anon, I try my best
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>>8303394
just boot up koikatsu, bro
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>>8303393
What's weird to me is that despite calls for "prompt innovation" /hdg/ is one of the strictest threads on the board, when it comes to "permitted" styles.
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>>8303394
your taste is what's lacking
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>>8303273
>shitmix
its the best mix of noob so far
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>>8303400
we welcome all styles as long as they feature black gentlemen and nyalia lora
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>>8303397
koikatsu will never get any better. And Illusion is content with re-releasing the same crap every few years with no innovation, it's a dead end.
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>>8303404
did you mean nyantcha
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>>8303402
jeets outdoing themselves to replicate pony are the funniest thing in a while
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>>8303406
no I mean this fucking garbage https://civitai.com/models/834822/nyalia-illustrious
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>>8303402
how many others have you tried
post a few prompts of yours you think turned out nice
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>>8303370
Oh yeah, should I set loss weight function to min_snr_gamma?
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>>8303407
>to replicate pony
you didnt even read the info of that mix or use it
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>>8303409
this and dj sloppa lora is the closest local can get to NAI
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>>8303394
just train a lora
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>>8303414
>koikatsu-style slop
>6 fingers
holy sovl
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>>8303400
>strictest threads on the board, when it comes to "permitted" styles
That wasn't always the case. It's partly a reaction to excess of trash ponyslop, and partly shitposting. Pre-XL hdg barely had any style meltdowns apart from obvious 3dpd cases.
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https://civitai.com/models/879640/noobieater
this has the best image fidelity out of any showcase ive seen including my own shitmix, good job faggot i know you post here
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>>8303413
I honestly dont understand everyone being obsessed with nai
and nyalia gives everything that repulsive "anime if it real" look
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>>8303418
u r chadmix anon?
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Wait pool tags work?
We really need a noob specific csv
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>>8303420
yes
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>>8303415
it can 1:1 mimic the base koikatsu shader look, it's awful
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>>8303422
and what version of noobieater are you talking about? all 3?
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>>8303427
just 3
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>>8303407
Sloppers still fucking love pony and can't wait for v7. I guess if you are completely aesthetically blind cretin pony really is fucking amazing. Noob kinda requiring artist tags is a quite a major disadvantage to them.
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>>8303424
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>>8303430
>if you are completely aesthetically blind cretin
post your aesthetic kino high class da vinci gen
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zootlustrious isn't bad but depending on sampler it's nearly fried in how much detail it tries to insert into every nook and cranny
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>>8303436
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>>8303286
cyberfix1.0 is great for dark scene prompting. If you also prompt a lamp, for instance, it'll gen the light from it onto the darkness. It's impossible with 2.0 however due to noob 1.0
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>>8303437
sorrry didn't notice your comment at first. those are my gens:
>>8303424
>>8303436
>>8303440
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>>8303443
I fucking kneel
forgive me for doubting you, anon-dono
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>>8303443
What do my images have to do with this?
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>>8303450
the fact that you are blind subhuman, spamming this thread with off-topic garbage, because you had meltdown months ago about the "anime bigots"
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>>8303452
>meltdown months ago about the "anime bigots"
qrd?
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why is SDXL so fucking bad at object permanence and why does 1.5 has no problem dealing with that?
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>>8303454
what's to qrd about it?
civitjeet got angry that his innovative and unique 2.5d "anime" style isn't welcome here
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>>8303457
vpred noob?
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>>8303455
zzz
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Haven't been here for a couple months. What is the best bait to use if I want to get the most you's?
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astragod possibly saving local AGAIN
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>>8303461
>I may just retrain AF to use FLUX VAE instead.
that may be his first w holy shit
16ch vae oh yeah baby
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>>8303461
>may
do it faggot
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>>8303461
just a reminder that the "quality he see" is probably jordach tier level
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>>8303345
>>8303150
box plz?
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>AF
ATF's booru as dataset when?
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>>8303448
iyanakao feeling
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>>8303461
He's planning on training a 6.8B model from scratch with his 10 A100s or whatever? On a dataset smaller than what LAX's team used for an SDXL finetune? I'd ask if he's retarded but it's pretty obvious at this point. I genuinely feel bad for anyone naive enough to buy into his shit.
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>>8303462
>>8303457
box?
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>>8303448
cunny box?
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>>8303473
he saved local once he can do it again
pony god we are so fucking back
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>>8303474
>>8303475
https://files.catbox.moe/fbfpxs.png
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>>8303473
i don't think astra has more than 5 a100s
and LAX's compute is a complete outlier anyways, we're probably not gonna see that amount of compute for an open weights local model in years
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>>8303458
yeah
>>8303474
https://files.catbox.moe/dbc1j3.png
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>>8303479
Why is it so >>>/aco/?
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>>8303478
people said the same before they came out of nowhere with massive compute and 0 idea what to do with it, we dont know shit on who will do what and when
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>>8303482
it's pony
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>>8303482
there is literally japanese words on the picture though
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>>8303482
I can't post these images here?
An image I posted earlier has disappeared
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>>8303485
that looks more like a weird combination of chinese and korean desu
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>>8303448
ummm bro thats a child...
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>>8303489
I am using this LoRA
https://civitai.com/models/487032/0621-av-cover-page

Don't pay attention to the letters, I'm just using this LoRA because the images are being generated very well with the combination of LoRAs
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>>8303473
Bigger models learn faster than smaller ones actually. That's why you see bigger and bigger LLMs because it's cheaper to undertrain a bigger model than it is to bring smaller one to the same level.
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>>8303448
>biblically accurate Dawn
Lovely!
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>>8302887
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Anyone know if there is a tag for when someone goes limp while sleepy or intoxicated. Sleepy is more about rubbing your eyes and sleeping isn't quite right.
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>>8303502
Uneven eyes
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bonus, since the perspective on this is royally fucked to being unsalvageable and I'm not going to put any effort into it
https://files.catbox.moe/4w50bv.png
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>>8303300
Is Tomoko even a loli? She just has small, miserable tits.
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>>8303506
my goat
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>>8303505
I mean the body being limp like incapable of holding yourself up, but I did forget that was the tag to use over asymmetrical eyes for a different thing
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>>8303507
she's a high schooler so yes she is underage
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>>8303511
unconscious maybe?
dead could work too but insane bleed probably
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Decided to plug in my old 2060 and give this a shot, not too bad for a first try. Face looks weird tho.
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>>8303513
Oddly enough I tried corpse earlier and it did nothing unconscious also kind of just turns to sleeping.
Guess its gonna just be one of those RNG things.
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>>8303496
Smaller LLMs hit saturation and overfit faster, to disastrous results. It's really not the same thing as undertraining an imagegen model. Pony was overfit, but that's only because the retard blasted it with super high LRs. NAI is *barely* overfit on some concepts, and the compute that went into it was absurd for a 2.6B model.
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https://civitai.com/models/900166?modelVersionId=1035303
NoobAI+Illustrious with weight sum
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forget astra, when is jordach saving local
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>>8303514
Another try.
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>>8303430
after moving to noob I'm never going back to pony, I get that I've sunken months into learning to tard wrangle it but noob is basically like that right out of the box; I genuinely don't know how anyone could be excited for pony when a new model with a better style, none of the hashing bullshit, and fairly promising, fast-moving development has appeared
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>>8303522
don't worry, you'll be back on v7 the day it releases
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>>8303522
we have no idea how v7 will be (probably shit but maybe not), I have no loyalty to model or baker so whatever is the best I will use and I find it weird that you are so assblasted by pony
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https://files.catbox.moe/wcfokb.png
https://files.catbox.moe/orjy94.png
https://files.catbox.moe/jq1biw.png
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>>8303521
For some reason the faces keep coming out weird, not sure why tho.
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>>8303530
based senseis
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>>8303526
unless it has some godlike composition I really don't see the point
>>8303528
I don't know get how thinking pony sucks would make me assblasted by it
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Way better than the usual shitpost I guess
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>>8303520
his 50 gt1030 cluster is cooking
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>>8303538
we're so back
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>>8300592
Prompts? YSN
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How was this generated? NAI should have no knowledge of ZZZ characters.
https://x.com/Ai_Paruwa/status/1853171762034516425/photo/1
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>>8303544
AYO DIS NIGGA PAYING FOR NAI
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>>8303544
nicole is the one singular zzz character it actually should know.
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>>8303544
Just train a lora NAIbro
Oh wait...
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Where can I get the LORA from this meme for IL?
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Is there a setting I'm missing that's making the weird ass faces?
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pony status ??
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>>8303557
You're missing the ADetailer extension
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how do you get facedetailer to work with vpred on comfyui?
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>>8303560
Thanks bro. That would be this, correct? https://civitai.com/articles/6735/adetailer-enhance-any-image-with-these-few-steps-beginnerintermediate
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anyone have a flow to making decent ~90px size sprites?
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>>8303552
>>8303564
why dont you people go to /g/ wtf
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>>8303461
Why not SD3.5?
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>>8303506
My king... box... I beg
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>>8303563
ye
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>>8303564
use pixeloe after prompting for pixel art or using a lora
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>>8303567
He hates SAI and by taking FLUX schnell's vae he can monetize the model.
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>>8303571
lowres(metadata https://files.catbox.moe/iia0qt.png
lowres with a bad scribbled in penis to use for upscale(no metadata) https://files.catbox.moe/xiartd.png
upscale(metadata) https://files.catbox.moe/0hziwd.png
extremely lazy inpaint for BLEACH purposes(look closely and you can see the inpaint seems - also make note of the addended negative prompt) https://files.catbox.moe/1fzizl.png

lora's can be found here
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/c449c4yww5y7t/noobpoint5
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>>8303577
is there a gui for this pixeloe thing? or is it an extension?
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>>8303593
raw python but you can just ask claude to make you a gui if you need one
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>>8303596
I don't know how to use raw python or claude. thanks anyway
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i think i figured out a better way to merge itercomp than a straight add_difference, double the magnitude of your add_difference and slerp it by half with the original
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>>8303564
https://captain4lk.itch.io/slk-img2pixel
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>>8303564
upscale sprites using nearest neighbor to a canvas approximating 2048~ total pixels
train a lora
use lora
upscale to increase detail of outputs
manually downscale to desired resolution using, again, nearest neighbor. Though 90px may be slightly on the small side to really try this process.
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>>8303606
json workflow? Also, it can be done with vpred models?
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Haven't tried 1.0 yet but I feel like I'm missing something that makes the style pop out more. Comparing Autismmix agawa ryou with Noob agawa ryou and the difference in how the model replicates the shading is drastic. No Loras of course.

>>8303544
Vibe transfer
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>>8303616
I feel like prompting two artists works better than prompting one with noob sometimes. I will just try and get two similar artists and put the prominent one first.
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>>8303544
Nicole was revealed and had a substantial amount of fanart made ~2 years ago.
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there's something about grabbing idolmaster girls and putting them into implied prostitution scenario...
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>>8303622
you forgot the image
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you got your thread archived, iafaggot. what are you going to do about it? are you prepared to get it archived, again? im waiting, faggot.
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>>8303624

>>8303627
seek help
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Good morning I love PM noob.
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>>8303629
you forgot the image
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>>8303607
this is cool, thanks
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>>8303629
Good day sar. I love vpred-e0_s5000.safetensors
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>>8303630
no?
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what rescalecfg value for vpred on reforge?
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>>8303634
I have been using 0.3-0.5 and works fine. More than that and I feel it loses too much color.
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>even most of nips are realizing the true power of illustrious and are jumping off the pony ship
I don't feel so good ponybros....
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>>8303640
have you been in a coma for the past month and 2 weeks? nips dropped pony the day illustrious leaked
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>>8303642
I don't browse the japanese reddit.
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>>8303640
why are you so surprised, nips do have higher average iq
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god dammit why is 1.0 so bad? 0.75/0.5 is miles superior, i downloaded a 1.0 shitmix and it doesnt stop it from being crap
guess ill stay on 0.75 until final vpred release or sum shit
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>>8303647
skill issue, we already figured stuff out
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>>8303647
wym? fart and diaper concepts are finally starting to lock in
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>>8303647
Go back to p*ny
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>>8303648
not bad for a pony gen
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>>8303628
Your gens are intriguing to me and I wish to download your shitmix.
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>>8303411
you can if you really want to, but if you are using it, set it to 1
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300+ new messages on vpred issues and no solution on how to fix it. Are we doomed anons?
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hi guys im trying to train my first lora and i keep running into this error, can someone help parse this and tell me the issue?
03:38:04-139650 INFO Start training LoRA Standard ...
03:38:04-142198 INFO Validating lr scheduler arguments...
03:38:04-143641 INFO Validating optimizer arguments...
03:38:04-145264 INFO Validating /workspace/lora2/log existence and
writability... SUCCESS
03:38:04-146946 INFO Validating /workspace/lora2/model existence and
writability... SUCCESS
03:38:04-148648 ERROR Validating
workspace/stable-diffusion-webui/models/Stable-diffusio
n/noobaiXLNAIXL_epsilonPred10Version.safetensors
existence... FAILED: does not exist
03:38:04-150400 ERROR Validating
workspace/stable-diffusion-webui/models/Stable-diffusio
n/noobaiXLNAIXL_epsilonPred10Version.safetensors
existence... FAILED: does not exist
03:38:04-151978 INFO Validating
workspace/stable-diffusion-webui/models/Stable-diffusio
n/noobaiXLNAIXL_epsilonPred10Version.safetensors
existence... FAILURE: not a valid file or folder


im not sure why it says my model does not exist??
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>>8303667
works on my pc
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>>8303618
Bummer, feels so close to NAI yet so far. Much better prompt comprehension though so I'm still having fun.
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>>8303668
Look at your ERROR Validating output.
I believe in you anon. You can figure it out.
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>>8303676
im so lost.... it just lists the model location and states it does not exist right? or is it just saying i cannot train with this model? ive been trying to get this to run for hours .... help me.........!!
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>>8303676
i figured it out.... it was missing the / ..... im retard,
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ok my gens on noob 1.0 started to look better but only when i tuned cfg down to 5 instead of 7, but why? euler a cfg 7 works fine on 0.75/0.5, i don't get it
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>>8303684
its fried thats why
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>>8303477
>>8303480
thanks
https://files.catbox.moe/71tj31.png
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>>8303680
I feel this spiritually
the amount of times I've done something like this, spent hours, realized it was something so small and stupid
rip..
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>>8303684
CFG scale doesn't have any absolute meaning, its behavior has always depended on the model/prompt. There is no benefit to using higher CFG over lower, it's just a different scale.

CFG is really just a kludge to accelerate convergence in a certain direction at the cost of artifacting/burnout. Models with better training generally converge faster and use lower CFGs.
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Does someone know why reforge crashes whe using this "--unet-in-fp8-e4m3fn" in COMMANDLINE_ARGS
I just updated to get the cfg++ samplers
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>>8303706
i don't think reforge works with fp8
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>>8303707
I see so they changed that damm because before it worked fine, now with 6gb vram i cant upscale reliably
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is there anyway i can make a pony lora work with NoobAI? i really want to use a style lora but it just bakes the fuck out of all the gens, im trying to train my own rn but it turns out in dogshit at training
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>>8303718
share your dataset and pray someone will bake it for you
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>>8303720
how large should i make my dataset? i am specifically trying to replicate the 90's evangelion look with a focus on asuka, i have like 60 images in my current data set and the results from my first bake were subpar

i'll add more to my dataset if its a good idea, also i did not use any regularisation images bc the tutorials said it wasnt necessary
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>>8303722
cant you just do that without a lora? use anime screencap, etc tags
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>>8303726
ive tried a bit but havent had much success, its a pretty specific vibe and artstyle that simply tagging for 90's anime doesnt provide
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What's the best way to clean up jpg artifacts for a dataset?
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>>8303727
togabox?
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man... all these shitmixes are 99% artist-dependent. Some tags don't work unless you specifically specify an artist.
Where's the autism guy when you need it?
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>>8303727
That's a juicy render of penis in vagina.
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What's /hdg/ recommended workflow's with ComfyUI? I just started using it but making upscaled images, detailing, can be complicated, and IPAdapter I'm not sure what its for.
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>>8303722
Sounds more like an issue with the training parameters. All those tutorials are ancient. Search for a toml from previous threads.
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is this comment true?
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>>8303746
I haven't tried training on 1.0 at all because it's fried to fuck but I wouldn't be surprised. .75 was also really not good for training with what little I tried on it because, again, shit is fucking fried.
.5 seems pretty much perfectly fine, though.
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>>8303746
Pretty much, minus the pony cock sucking. On that note the vpred version was pretty good for training loras so looking forward to the final vpred release.
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>>8303748
>>8303749
which noob model should i use seeing as v1.0 is a bit fried? i really like how capable it is at handling complex subjects and feels the closest to nai
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>>8303749
>he doesnt know
oh no no no
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>>8303750
Two words.
Wait for Vpred.
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>>8303746
this person seems dumb as shit so even if its true its hard to believe from their mouth.
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>>8303753
what is that and how long should i expect to wait?
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>>8303755
4 weeks minus 2 weeks
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>>8303746
I made one off Illusion model, I don't think its that bad..
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>>8303757
melting...
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>>8303758
Looks like regular sweat to me
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>>8303759
would fap anyway
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>>8303757
mine have all been bad :(
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>>8303764
b-chama...
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>>8303738
what is a toml?
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>>8303756
kek
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>>8303622
>>8303628
based
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I'm sorry anons I got banned for a day and couldn't answer you earlier. Anyway, I didn't expect to get that many (you)s over a quick test heh... thanks. I've been wanting to post the whole day so allow me to mass reply please

>>8302034
>>8302189
>>8302035
aronabox https://files.catbox.moe/5518gy.png

>>8302045
>>8302068
Imho these two anons >>8302036 >>8302316 are kinda right, there is not that much of a difference between every shitmix and you should choose whichever you think is better. Almost everything has already been said about every shitmix in this thread so I don't know if my opinion even matters but overall the personal merge and noobieater seem to provide better anatomy, background and object permanence than the rest. I also kinda like illustrious_solid tho.
https://files.catbox.moe/x2rw9w.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/vir0ds.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dwd2gb.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ln9457.png
I think, in the meantime, I'll just stick to either of them until we get a proper vpred version so i can drop every fucking shitmix (stop making more please, I'm done testing). The colors in this vpred version are way better but the anatomy sucks at least when you add multiple people, that goes without saying because it's not even an epoch tho, same prompts different seed on this new vpred version https://files.catbox.moe/94gtic.png

>>8302614
Happy birthday anon

Well, I'm going to sleep. Good night anons
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>>8303789
>upside down dick
>6 fingers
>artifacts everywhere
>cumrag UI
anon...
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can someone post lora training guides for noob im too stupid to figure it out
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>>8303792
shouldn't we train on illu instead?
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>>8303795
i have no idea and do not honestly know the difference
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>>8303795
if you're using a version of noob you should be training on the version you're using(and you should be using 0.5).
if you're using illustrious you train on illustrious.
noob is a finetune, not a shitmix. It's going to work better with a lora trained on it than one trained on illustrious.
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>>8303800
excuse me for the dumb question but i recently swapped from nai to local and so i have no idea what im doing, where do i find noob 0.5? i dont see an older version option on civit
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>>8303667
i really hope their training code is fucked as that would imply it could actually be fixed
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>>8303801
https://files.catbox.moe/dyz3mo.png
do you see the little name tabs right under the model title banner?
Click those and it'll switch to the named version.
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>>8303791
Forge and its forks don't have cu124/torch2.5 yet.
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>>8303805
>cu124/torch2.5
1. it's not that hard to upgrade it yourself
2. what's the point of having them? 0.2% performance uplift?
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>>8303804
tyvm!
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>>8303808
Since switching from autism to noob it went from 20 seconds to over a minute (txt2img), and img2img hiresfix it takes 2 minutes to complete now.
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can someone explain what a toml is and how i apply it to lora training?
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>>8303812
your setup is fucked, it takes like 30s for t2t+upscale+adetailer
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>>8303820
Card?
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>>8303821
4080
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>>8303817
Tom's Obvious, Minimal Language
config file format used by derrian's lora training gui. you save/load training settings into them
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>>8303825
kinda gay
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>>8303825
Wait a minute...
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>>8303824
thank you! im running kohya, is it typically baked into the kohya gui or is it an extension?
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>>8303820
>>8303821
>>8303822
I guess nvidia fucked over rtx 3070
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>>8303301
the one with the orb in the dick is something else. like he is the blade and she is using him like a literal sex bot.
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>>8303616
I noticed the same thing with other artists, less contrast and rougher lines than they had on pony. I think it may just be worse at telling apart low-effort/WIP works from high quality ones.
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>>8303786
Banned for being too based
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Requesting lora of this bitch
https://files.catbox.moe/jvt3op.jpg
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>>8303388
got more of that bude qt at the right?
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>>8303833
If you aren't using derrian distro (it has kohya as a back end) you'll have to open the toml up in notepad or whatever and copy the settings manually
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>>8303786
>>8303840
it's really hard to pick between first two though
https://files.catbox.moe/iv0aij.png
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>>8303850
>Requesting Lora
Where are the artists making bank by making Lora dataset commissions?
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>>8303393
>illustrious and noob's biggest consequence is
read that as "Illustrious and it's consequences have been a disaster for the prompting race..." and went like that for the rest of that post. guess I need to get off the internet for a while. gotta agree on the last point though.
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>>8303668
try putting / on the front of the workspace idk
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thought this was cool to see how many optimizers just shart themselves
https://github.com/kozistr/pytorch_optimizer/blob/main/docs/visualization.md
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>>8303866
qrd for ML'lets?
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>>8303860
You need datasets?, i can give you one
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>>8303372
Is this his first deleted post/ban?
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good morning
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>>8303866
>AdaHessian
wtf kek
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'ate foreheads
bangs for life
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>>8303874
foreheads on hebes is peak
on hags they're bad
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>>8303867
green dot is like a white woman in india
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>>8303877
didn't even consider hags here
exposed foreheads make the heads look too big
dont like 'em
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>>8303867
That's gradient map, local optima in the center (green rombe), red lines are optimiser steps. The closer optimiser to the local optima - the better.
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B -chama is cute, like a child trying to help the adults.
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>>8303882
i thought that's epic-sensei's role
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>>8303878
>>8303881
do we have one clear winner? good old adamw?
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>>8303883
He's been MIA in recent episodes.
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>>8303883
who would win a fight?
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When you get character loras from civitai what lora strength do you typically use?

My current theory is it works like this, tell me if I'm correct:
strength 0.8: worse likeness, better prompt obeying
strength 1.0: better likeness, worse prompt obeying
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>>8303888
Depends how shittily they trained the lora
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i hate loras so damn much
thank god i haven't used one since illu release
bless asians
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>>8303606
yes ive seen it used on vpred
https://files.catbox.moe/4sqs17.json

mixing at 1.0 overall intensity (here 2.0 difference, 0.5 slerp) is the most normal way of using it directly. i played with 2.4 difference which seemed like an upper limit before things started frying but i wouldnt use that directly as a checkpoint but as a base for a finetune
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I ended up making something weird. Is this style anime?
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your 99% chocolate sir
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>>8303894
ty 1.5-kun
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it's impossible to make a decision

>>8303896
we need vpred to go 100%
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miqote lora for illustrious?
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>>8303442
Oh, so it's Noob 1.0 that completely fucked the contrast? Did they not train with zt-snr like retards or what
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>>8303899
Guy's dead probably. Even the last month of pony was just shitposters reusing his old gens.

Could try baking one, but is there a point? Pony does the style better. I guess for the character knowledge, or mixing with other styles?
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how would i go about ensuring something like film grain comes through when training a lora?
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>>8303901
he's been posting noobai miqotes though
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>>8303895
too weird. more like an in-between /d/ and /aco/
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>>8303904
Oh right nvm, I've been gone too. It's easier to do NNN in any other month.
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anyone know a site that has mass dumps of anime screenshots for the purposes of training loras?
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>>8303909
https://fancaps.net/
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>>8303909
Are boorus not enough? Like this:
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=angel_blade+screenshot
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>>8303910
>sexsexsex
>no sex happening
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>>8303235
They are speaking out of their ass, there is nothing special about vpred that makes concepts "impossible" that you could do on epsilon prediction. Also a complete lie about zt-snr not being possible on epsilon prediction.
The only possible limiting factor is that in a vpred setup, the model has two weighted prediction targets, that change according to the SNR. It has to both predict the noisy part of the input as well as the image part, whereas in the epsilon case it only had to care about the noise.
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>>8303892
why is the clock girl the most popular from datealive?
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>>8303919
because she wears a sexy lingerie and is crazy? i don't even remember anyone else from that title apart from the red haired imouto
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>>8303919
Obligatory "a live what?"
Anyway she's the only one unique enough to be recognizable, Tsunako sucks at making OCs.
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>>8302992
Any metadata for these?
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>>8303920
can see that happening
>>8303921
>she's the only one unique enough to be recognizable, Tsunako sucks at making OCs
and the funny thing is that the character comes mostly from the novel's author
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>>8303919
because she is the only one who dare to say "ara ara" lol, and yeah she looks pretty hot
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>>8303910
thanks for remanding me that i haven't tried cum on forehead on noob yet
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>>8303930
what is the dick attached to
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>>8303942
it's her dick she's sitting on a rock
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>>8303942
a guy leaning back
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>>8303946
she's got a big dick
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>>8303930
>trusting a fairy
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>>8303906
foxbox?
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>>8303951
yuki box?
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>>8303949
4u
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People who are playing with noob vpred, what sampler/CFG/snakeoil setup are you running?
Stuff that worked fine on epsilon is smearing and frying on vpred
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>>8303972
https://files.catbox.moe/2dsat3.png

Supposed to be a wolfu. I've failed.
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>>8303967
box please
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>>8303825
+8k
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>>8303978
I think you need to activate RescaleCFG for ReForge if you want to get anything that is not fried. Ime the actual CFG can work between 4 and 7 depending on the artist mix.
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How come noob 1.0 doesn't work with adetailer? It basically does nothing, unlike pony or even illustrious where it actually fixed faces. Same settings, nothing changed on my end.
Using forge, not reforge.
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>>8303999
check the cmd, it probably says it didn't detect a face. you might have to find a different detection model, although you'd have to ask someone else for that since I just prefer to inpaint faces
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>>8303999
Adetailer is just inpainting. Plus face auto-detection, but that part doesn't even use the checkpoint. Can you be more specific, or show examples?

Works fine for me but I'm using Comfy's detailer node. They are the same under the hood though.
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i'm like idk how late to the party but damn "new" forge is great for vramlets, no more 30~ second model loading while using loras, takes literally just one minute for batch size 2 generation with two loras and 20 steps (on noob) and doesn't look bad
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my fans whirr very loud now when i bake loras
it didn't used to be like that...
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>>8304001
It definitely detects the face and it does something, but it doesn't really fix the faces unlike previous models.
>>8304002
Noob 1.0
No adetailer: https://files.catbox.moe/3oxpa1.png
Adetailer: https://files.catbox.moe/02xxq8.png

illustrious SmoothftSPO
No adetailer: https://files.catbox.moe/m7kaad.png
Adetailer: https://files.catbox.moe/csm1s1.png

Adetailer on illustrious fixes eyes up a lot better while Noob 1.0 just fries eyes in a different way rather than fix them.
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>>8304006
Maybe your old settings didn't wholly fit into vram. That slows down training so the gpu doesn't work as hard. Or maybe your gpu heatsink is full of dust and doesn't work as well anymore.
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>>8304006
It happens to me too when I gen but immediately winds down. At least it stopped crashing my file explorer randomly.
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man noob 1.0 is shit
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who said you can't generate dark images with vpred 1.0? just genned this with the 5k steps checkpoint.
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>>8304011
Also this
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>>8304012
it looks like she is eating...you know...
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>>8304013
sea cucumber?
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>>8304013
whatever it is, she loves it.

I actually don't knwo why I'm getting these images, I have
>morning, sunlight, high contrast, colorful, magic

in the prompt.
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>>8304015
It's the high contrast tag most likely. Colorful really only seems to add random rainbow stuff sometimes but I've noticed high contrast will give me very deep blacks
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>>8304016
Might be
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>>8304018
fried
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>>8304020
i dont think its a fryer, i believe its some type of sex machine
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>>8304021
it's both
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>>8304012
this is the type of schizo posting I like but anon... that upper lip makes her look like one of the puppets from the og beetlejuice
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>>8303718
>>8303720
>>8303722
upload it and i'll bake it
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>>8303739
box? nice.
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>>8303400
you can get away with posting a lot of stuff as long as it isn't obvious pony trash
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It wasn't wise of lax to post their malfunctioning new vpred tests publicly everywhere, now all the tards think this is what vpred is like when in reality their new version is broken and has to be fixed if not retrained.
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>>8304033
i don't get why they bother posting anything unless it's decent
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>>8304032
I mean in terms of people appreciating the gen, not trying to "sneak in" something that nobody likes anyway.
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i recently came back and downloaded this vpred thing people have been talking about for several threads but all my results turn out like shit

is this supposed to be the future of local? why are people trying to shill this?
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>>8304034
It made some sense when it was in a limited capacity to the artiwaifu discord for people to test and help troubleshoot but it feels like they're giving increasingly less fucks as time goes on.
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>>8304036

>>8304033
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>>8304036
hmm.
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>>8304038
i get the impression l-a-x doesn't care about this project much desu
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the dream is dead, guess I'll go back to learning to draw
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>>8304036
do you even have the current ui to run it?
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>>8304046
anonie you're responding to a shitposter throwing out the lowest quality bait
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>>8304041
animal farts acquired so his job is done here
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>>8304017
>I CAST SCHIZO
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>>8304048
My knew theory is kurumuz paid him off to sabotage his own project, he did say he worked with NAI before. That or he could only get renewed cluster time if he showed his sponsors a model and his real desire was to use it with LLM.
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vpred with loras is too bright, my eyes...
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>>8304063
just wait til they fix it, their latest vpred release is broken
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>>8303989
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>>8303886
cute shark
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>>8303996
Thanks, starting to look better now. Any fix for the washed out colors? Is it back to negging monochrome and adding all the crazy color tags?
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>>8304065
insane work wowie
also on second thought its probably +10k, I was lowballing it
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>>8303418
>good job faggot i know you post here
Yes, I do. Thanks by the way
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>making a sparkle lora
>foot focus image removal takes out 10% of her images
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>>8304073
raiden?
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so they went from 512x h100 to 32x h100 to 16x a100
soon enough they'll be baking on 2x4060s
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>>8304084
So they lost h100s for good?
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>>8304075
i'm not a footfag, but still can understand why her feet are so popular
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>>8304084
>2x4060s
jordachbros...
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>>8304090
no idea, see >>8302590
seems like their access is coming to an end sooner than they expected
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>>8304091
>i'm not a footfag, but
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>>8304094
shitposting aside, it's fucking grim if that's the case and the vpred fails and all we gonna have left are those limbo models
much better than horseshit of course but so much potential wasted
and i still don't get why was can't they bake the vpred model they way the did that test one
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what
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>>8304097
listen, it only takes a cute anime girl to be attracted to something to which one normally is not
i just can't not appreciate how elegant shape of the soles is and how cute those short plump toes are
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1.0 is so bad not even a vpred bandaid will help the furry garbage added is beyond redemption they need to go back and train from .5 without it which wont happen
oh well tho
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>artist trained on danbooru dataset
>half the shit they upload are unfinished sketches
>half their shit is pruned by danbooru mod team's shit taste
>danbooru is lacking high quality paid content
>half the images are further pruned out on training because comics and other slop
honestly it's not worth using styles baked into the model, we'll forever need to do our own loras
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>>8304020
its the artists i prompted
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>>8304106
So what I'm reading is
>RETVRN TO PONY
Like seriously, the only reason to use Noob over it are intact artist tags. If you disregard that, Noob is just Pony with worse anatomy.
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>>8304109
low quality bait
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>>8304109
Not exactly. The pony retard pruned danbooru's emoticon faces so you can't prompt expressions on pony
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>>8304106
Should've used gelbooru instead. Most of their images are taken from danbooru along with the tags, and they don't get removed afterwards.
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>>8304109
this is the kind of bait that some retards think is actually true
I've seen this unironic opinion that noob is basically worse pony but more characters and artist tags
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>>8304110
>>8304113
I'm not baiting, genuinely, how is this not the case?
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>>8304109
artist tags
oh and characters
oh and pruned tags
oh and medium tags
gee i wonder what type of captions xis v7 has
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>>8304110
>>8304113
if you know it's bait why do you bite it
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I just won't use Pony because I have dignity and self respect.
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>>8304106
>danbooru
alternatives to this?
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>>8303992
nta but thanks
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>>8304117
not really biting it
just saying I know that there are people out there that unironically, genuinely think this way
pony is some sort of ultimate slop model that attracts streetshitter prompters of the lowest caliber
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>>8304119
gelbooru is based but their tags are ass
else exhentai
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>>8304016
DId more tests (not gona post any as none seem very good) and it seems that it was the horror (theme) that I had forgotten in the prompt causing it, seems that it needs to be lowered to 0.2 or so to not overtake the full pic.
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>>8304118
You're just being silly. Don't use pony for anime, it makes no sense there. But if you decide to gen anything else, it's the best option.
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>>8304125
>But if you decide to gen anything else
But that's exactly it. I only gen anime because I have dignity and self respect.
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>>8304113
"better anatomy" mantra thrown by retards who have no idea what it means, is completely unironic in many cases outside of hdg
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>>8304005
nice tits, what artist mix?
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>>8304041
because of MMMMUUUUUUHHHH LLMs that will get outperformed by another corpo using an even bigger cluster. literal fucking retard, doesn't realizes how relevant and big he is for local ai imagen right now, what a fucking waste of potential.
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>go on danbooru to look for inspiration
>instantly greeted with a pokemon furry male bara hanging his cock out into (your) face
>not filtered because muh pokemon is not furry
>it's also instantly approved by the uploader
make them go away aaaaaaagggh!!!
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>>8304127
>who have no idea what it means
What could it POSSIBLY mean other than more consistently correct hands/poses and lack of nonsense like floating palms?
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>>8304125
>anything else
Like what? Plastic "realism" porn? Ponies?
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>>8304128
>kanikama, ciloranko, agawa ryou
But also a weak 0.25 controlnet off a SD1.5 photorealistic pic. Can't get the anatomy otherwise.
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>>8304132
idk, proportions? control over it?
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>>8304099
i dislike a lot of noob's overall slopped decisions, but it was surreal seeing local have that much compute. for months it was doom about how astralite was the only one who could bake because of his 3 a100s
then jordach came along and it was fundraiser spam for another 2 months and even with his secret donor, the funds he raised wouldn't even be enough to rent 32xh100s for even a single week. it really puts into perspective how important compute really is. noob fucked up at least 6 times already, imagine trying to do this shit on kohaku-tier compute where a single epoch takes the entire month. really without compute local is absolutely fucked. even with noob's less-than-ideal settings i still hope they manage to keep baking somehow. there is simply nobody else
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>>8304103
anime feet are way better than disgusting 3D2P so that make sense
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>>8304131
wow you're such a pussy
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>>8304132
that may be dollar store atdan but boy it goes places
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>>8304123
just retag all the pictures with a good autotagger (doesnt exist)
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>>8303992
this one's so fucking good
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>>8304141
manual tagging is the only way
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>>8304132
there is not a single model that can consistently gen this correctly in one go. it's not about the 'anatomy' it's just a simple limitation of tagging and txt-2-img in general. you likely had some sort of masturbation/fingering prompt in there and with current architecture there's no way to actually specify who is doing what so it makes assumptions based on the training data. this will never get truly solved regardless of parameter count until the architecture evolves somehow.
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>>8304133
Pony has more /aco/ artists unhashed that NAI or illu have total, it's the only model so far trained on R34. I assume the same is true for furry and pony. Plastic realism is fixed using a proper realistic model as a refiner; pony lets you prompt realism with booru tags instead of NL, and make actual hardcore pics. I also like its 3D look (with loras) better than illu, but it's not a huge difference there.
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>>8304131
>go on danbooru to look for inspiration
>this happens
>it's not pics, it's all artists

yes it's gotten worse since yesterday
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>>8303901
not dead just less active on certain days, ive pretty much gone full noob and ill.
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>>8304054
Love the style
box p-pls?
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>>8304145
>Plastic realism is fixed using a proper realistic model as a refiner; pony lets you prompt realism with booru tags instead of NL, and make actual hardcore pics.
Could you catbox some of the results of that process? Actually wondering.
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>>8304147
hagsisters...is it over? i mean look at that it barely even has curves anymore
#notmymiqo
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>>8304141
bro your wd taggers?
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>>8304147
unironicslly, as one of your biggest haters i applaud you that you're willing to improve now, ditching that god awful pony.
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>>8304144
Pony can do this pretty consistently. Even Noob can whenever it feels like it, it just fucks up way more often in far more noticeable ways.
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>>8304147
Nice suit.
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>>8304135
thanks
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>artist's newer work has shiny boobs
>train lora exclusively on shiny boob era
>upscaling removes shiny boobs 90% of the time
>mixing with other artists removes shiny boobs
fuck
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>>8304154
how can this be???? shouldnt noob have the benefit of even more e621 anatomy?? how did astralite do it?
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>>8303884
wanted to see someone elses thoughts as well, but my ranking just for the ones that looked like they converged on both tests, in that order, schizo ones in random order:
DiffGrad
GrokFastAdamW

AdaNorm
Aida
Prodigy

SCHIZO:
ScalableShampoo
NovoGrad
MSVAG
LARS
AdaSmooth
apollo
Lamb
asgd
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>>8304158
>lots of shiny skin tags
>none of it applies to the skin on the face
send help
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Different style
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>>8303886
Catbox?
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okay
umamusume fags
do they get pregnant from humans or horses?
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>>8304172
futa horsegirls
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>>8304172
yes
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>>8304172
>umamusume
remember hearing that the series has/had a sort of ban on hentai art. is that for real?
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>>8303884
as always.
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GOAT just dropped
https://civitai.com/models/926443/
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>>8304176
yeah, but who the fuck cares
i'm not a jap
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>>8304178
god, some people should've been aborted.
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>>8304178
top kek
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>>8304178
>NTR Mix
>it offers the ability to render more subtly contrasted color tones.
kek
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>>8303892
catteboxe?
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>>8304172
Umas are futa canon
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>>8304188
faggot cope
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>>8304189
lickable
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>>8301726
whats your workflow?
Dud you finetune the checkpoint and then extracted lora?
Also did you use vpred when finetuning?
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>>8304148
https://files.catbox.moe/79rrqf.png
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>browse sadpanda galleries for inspiration
>see a good image, want so see more
>go to check the artist on booru
>the image isn't on danbooru or gelbooru
>artist is missing a ton of images in general
what's the solution to this really? there are so many images just not on the boorus that even with the best training settings and well curated dataset you'd still be missing tons of good data. plus boorus are deleting even more. is baking a lora really all one can do?
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>>8304194
yes, until we have some sort of adapter like https://github.com/gustproof/sd-webui-forge-style-components loras are the only way, unfortunately
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>>8304194
lora needed
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>>8304178
NAI bros....
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>>8304190
Not as gay as the yakuza for banning uma doujins and porn. Thank god for ai.
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>>8304196
style components is fucking shit, the model is way too small
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>>8304194
...train a LoRA? are you retarded? maximum data also isn't necessary for a style lora, you start to see diminishing returns past like 100 image datasets unless they draw a lot of subjects in specific ways
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>>8304194
finetune for every artist missing and every time a new gacha character comes out
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for me it's https://civitai.com/models/820208?modelVersionId=1033430
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https://civitai.com/models/920832/complex-noobai-epsilon-05075?modelVersionId=1036254
What do >we think? It has the well-received Noobieater in it.
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AHHHHHHHHH WHAT SHIT MIX DO I USE
>just test it yoursel-
NOOOOOOOO JUST TELL ME
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>>8304211
miqomix
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>>8304211
based
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>>8304211
just be yourself
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all these shit mixes remind me of pony
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>>8304209
>>8304210
i will now download them and depending on which one does umamusume smegma futa cock better wins.
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>>8304217
based
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>>8304217
I dont think any of them do smegma well at all and pony somehow couldn't do umamusume
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>>8304221
Requesting topless edit.
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>>8304221
how do you prompt this
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>>8304220
>pony somehow couldn't do umamusume
yeah i wonder why...
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new vpred version probably soon on 15000 steps while autists keep arguing in euge trooncord about meaningless shit
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fucking spent all day tinkering controlnets. its a balancing act between style and temporal cohererence.
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>>8304223
its a lora
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>>8304223
it's inpainted
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>>8304228
it's not
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>>8304225
or not owari da
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Waiting for IAchad now.
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>>8304234
>>8304234
>>8304234
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getting all girls in frame is not easy
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>>8304193
thankyou
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>>8304232
shybox pls?
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>>8304226
kinda decent actually but feel like 5 fps, I would guess it goes to shit if you have a background
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>>8303468
Oh it's that one snake girl. Nice.
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>>8304194
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>>8300761
Bigger resolution: https://files.catbox.moe/ioq3kh.png
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>>8300768
Bigger resolution: https://files.catbox.moe/2pm3u0.png
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>>8304170
https://files.catbox.moe/l9tmza.png
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pa5cfv0u2t0fz/gestart
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>>8304031
https://files.catbox.moe/g43reb.png
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>>8304545
>>8304555
>>8304728
>>8304734
Thank you!
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fine
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>>8304037
character name?
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>>8304192
grabber, supplement danbooru tags with 0.5 confidence eva02, go through each one individually with 0.25 confidence eva02
locon extraction yeah
no vpred, that's on noob eps 1.0
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>>8303604
THIS GUY DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO USE A CHATBOT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



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