MikuMikuAI EditionPrevious Thread: >>8310810>LOCAL UIA1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webuiForge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForgeComfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI>LOCAL MODELSPony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESWiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templatesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-loraIOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/installUpscalers: https://openmodeldb.infoBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfIllustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuffUseful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
>>8314335Previous Thread HighlightsTH_24-11-13_-hdg-_a.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/who6ug.jpgTH_24-11-13_-hdg-_b.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/v339dp.jpg
>>8314336>got in twicenice
>>8314336>got in noncenot nice
>>8314388It's not nice to lie. All of those gens are mine. This was a test.
>>8314074box? MOAR?
>>8312398>the fuck are you taking about, regional prompter is fully functional, do a fresh install or somethingYeah I was about to call you out but it turns out I was on Forge and not ReForge oops good looking out.
>>8314341box?
>>8314341alisabox?
Pony 7 is coming outIllustrious beware /s
>>8314429>early 2025 (c)besides it's not
Should I train LoRA on NoobAI vPred 0.5, which requires V-parameterization and zero-terminal SNR, or train LoRA on Illustrious? Illustrious lora can still be used on NoobAI, but some say it’s not as good as LoRA trained on NoobAI 0.5
>>8314434Just wait for 1.0?
>>8314434train on illustrious if you use illustrioustrain on noob eps 0.5 if you use noob eps 0.5train on vpred if you use vpredthis isn't very complicated
>>8314436I mean i can train another when 1.0 comes out
>>8314429what will realistically change?
Jordach here, the upcoming Cascade epochs will make Illust/Pony 7 look like a child's toy.
>>8314429We need more Eva girls getting face fucked
>>8314440More furry datapointsBetter scat, better inflation, better knots
Hmm, is AdamW still the way to go? There are so many different options now
Is local saved yet
>>8314444of course that will happen...
>>8314450Unironically yes, I haven't used NAI in a bit and will probably cancel my subscription
>>8314440It'll be un-usable, 24gb+ vram requirement and for every chad that has a xx90 series card that can run it, they'll be making a sepia image every 2 minutes since it'll be un-optimized as shit
>>8314440NAI owners getting rich from selling buzz to all the people who don't have 24GB VRAM and want to generate their expressiveH all disney princesses cluster_1488 sloppa
>>8314458gpt-2 post
>>8314424>>8314425https://files.catbox.moe/yzuhkd.png
>>8314429>Requires 24 GB VRAM>Loli has been pruned>Artists hashedEnjoy your garbage
>>8314462thanks!
>>8314463>>Artists hashedbro, your style clusters?
>>8314468i'm going to cluster your anus
>>8314468I don't want "realistic furry dragon with barbed cock" style, I want deadflow style specifically.
gooning and generating
>>8314471based
>>8314336based anon thx for keeping these highlights. .
>>8314463The bigger problem is that it's AuraFlow, T5 and SDXL VAE
>>8314477spooky
>>8314477Thats hot, more
>>8314477>checks pickup line bookThe human body has 206 bones. Would you like another?
>>8314336kys attentionwhore
>>8314336someone's mad he didn't make it
>>8314335has the troll evolved? I can't tell if this is a troll thread or not, the picture looks too much like aom
>>8314488its noobv7
>>8314488Probably because it is AOM
>>8314336> tfw you're in the highlights, but it's not the gen you thought would be instill got in though
>>8314488AOM is soul
my dump for the day, let's see if I make it in the next thread
>>8314335she builded in a laboratory in hell just for me
>>8314490not the merge we need, but the merge we deserve>>8314494>>8314496aom is life
>>8314498you deserve a medal. nice set.
>>8314502thank you anon
>>8314508sovl
>>8314514sovl
>>8314514thanks i'll post this every time some feces eater posts pony gen
Pony v7 will change the AI generation landscape as we know it, feel free to screenshot this post.
>>8314514ye she w i d e
i didn't make it into the highlights but at least I got the cover of #643 hdg xd
>>8314523SOVL overload
>>8314523that puffy pussy is calling me
>>8314523Very sexy, needs more cum on her abs and some armpit hair!
>>8314523holy. . i would slide in and out of those fat pussy lips like a hotdog in a bun until i was ready to explode all over glaze the titty pussy she is presenting to be glazed
fuck
What are your pony v7 expectations anons? I thought v6 is gonna be good enough for a lifetime but I am so ready for some surprises from AstraliteHeart.
>>8314531super sexy hentai like this >>8314514
>>8314531see>>8314444
Jordach status?
>>8314542Caching latents
>>8314429>hashed artists>superartists>trained by ponyfucker>custom nl tagging/captioning bs>base is using 4ch vae and only follows prompt better than sdxl with slight improvement>requires 24gb vram to run>slower than flux>reason to choose even more messed up base than sd3 is cus license with sd3unironically illust/noob will remain the best anime model for local till some really good arch is picked up by trainers. and not even ponyfucker himself knows how many stuff he messed up during training...
24gb vram requirement with 4ch vae is comically bad, like it was made up by some schizo shitposterbut it's real kek
>>8314551Rinbox?
>>8314554https://files.catbox.moe/9f6lmp.png
>>8314548smartie post more ai gooner slop pls
>>8314523i fucking love a fat pussy
>>8314572cute girl, nice background
>use a billion tokens on white background, simple background>they don't even workThanks noob
>>8314572>>8314581what are you hiding anon?!
>>8314575i told you noob sucks
>>8314551>Rin>vaginalWhat is wrong with you?
>>8314590what better way to showcase her defenseless anus?besides I already did the other way around >>8314447 so I figured I'd go the "has sex with old men for money" trope instead.
>>8314590hes based
>>8314592>"has sex with old men for money" trope instead.based
>>8314069https://files.catbox.moe/qcorez.png
i got a (You) on my picture last thread but i didnt get in the highlights, is this an error? who do i contact to fix this
>>8314601(you)s are not quality controlled, highlights are the expert opinion
>>8314601do better, chud
>>8314611body horror goes to /d/, christ
FYI while it's heavy as fuck and practically unusable to gen smut (especially the anime kind), flux is pretty good and tweaking nonsensical mushy details like jewelry
>>8314611wtf is wrong with the guy's facewhy does she have three fingers
>>8314613nice inpaint seam
>>8314615>>8314612>same nogen still seething
Will v7 deliver darker 'groids?
>>8314612>>8314615it's a reference to the Thing you fucking clueless jealous zoomers
>>8314618so were those issues intentional? im genuinely asking, no idea why you are so defensive
>>8314618I can't even imagine how broken this arm isher forearm has to be broken in at least like 5 places. and then her hand is just fused to a guys chin.Why the fuck do you put your name on this garbage?
>>8314617yeah it still clearly needs hand drawn photoshop blending
>>8314622oh thats supposed to be her arm, i was trying to figure out what was happening
it's ayakon
i still think vaginas appearing at random places were the peak ayakonthis is weak shit
>>8314609nice
>>8314615>>8314612>>8314622be gracefull Ayakon allowed you to witness what you usually have to pay his patreon forhe is giving you away that priceless (5$) right and you are just bitching???
>>8314635you guys are pulling my leg, he doesnt sell those pictures
>>8314611>>8314614>>8314618Based effortposter
>>8314635Jokes on you, I'm one of his (8) subscribers
>>8314636>he doesn't know
>>8314636that's right, the good shit is under paywall. you can have a look if you ain't poor
>>8314611You're the only reason I'm still visiting this shithole. Also saved
>>8314598also need box for >>8313836
>>8314645Zased
>>8314645NAI bros...local is catching up to our niche...
Newfag here. I'm buying a 4090 in the next year, what would I need to train my own Lora?
>>8314649Getting properly dark groids on noob is a gamble, your subscription is still worth it.
>>8314653just buy a 3090
>>8314498>>8314495I wasn't gonna post another one, but here we are>>8314502hope you like this one as well anon
reForge guy here, found the extension that breaks sending images from txt2img to img2img while having controlnet enabled.sdwebui-nai-api extension.Disabling it make everything works as expected. Wondering why it could cause that issue though, I guess it is only compatible with A1111. Tested on normal Forge and had similar issues.>>8314254So yeah anon, the extension that breaks the button is that one, if you have it.Gonna add it to the readme.
>>8314665> nai breaks local genskek
I'm kinda happy that I have my own schizostalker. Feels not so lonely. Thank you
REQUEST: This art of Elphelt, Sin, and Ramlethal in the Guilty Gear Strive style.
>>8314672hello, this is the stalker. do you have my schizo pills?
>>8314672>>8314673>>8314674all me
>>8314675Yes I'm confirming that it was indeed all him
stop talking to me!
>>8314676I'm still looking for my pills though
>>8314673it aint gonna happen broi would give you a proper explanation but trust me on this move on
>>8314678I ate them, all
>>8314678Why do you need them when you have me :3
>>8314677nyo~
>>8314680why you gotta be so rude, don't you know I'm human too?>>8314681I'm gonna marry you
I'm horny for anon...
>>8314622none of are are on xir twitter so I assume xe is just trolling you
Anyone knows what style this guy is using?
>>8314688forgot pic
>>8314688it's pony
>>8314691>expressiveH all disney princesses cluster_1488forgot about these
>>8314688it's 19 year old woman
bro calm down
What's wrong with ExpressiveH? It's one of the most used loras out there, I think it's pretty well-done.
>>8314699Zased!
seems like iaschizo made all the retards comfortable posting here, just like he did with /edg/this is already on track for being the worst thread we've had yet
>>8314667AOMbox?
What's wrong with pony?
>>8314704>use the artist rabbit in my mix>sometimes gens rabbit boys fucking the girlnot the worst prank clip has played on me
>>8314704Everything
>>8314705fuck i gave someone a free (you) by misclick
>>8314704Nothing
just realized... most of us are here in the /h/ threads because of some floox porn we came across aren't we?
>>8314715I can here to shitpost and share my slop
>>8314717came*
>>8314715Pretty much, I got into AI after seeing floox's stuff.
>>8314715this time the copypasta is from a couple of months back, cool. you should start digging up naiv1 leak era posts next
>>8314710How is this style called?
>>8314723/aco/
>>8314723it's pony
>>8314724it says "hentai" at the bottom right
>finally get my shitmix right>will probably have to do it again once the next version of noob dropsMAKE IT STOP
>>8314728just train on illu?
>>83147280.75 vpred soon™ followed by 1.0 vpred two days later, followed by 1.01 a day after that, followed by a 0.5 epred to vpred conversion the following day.You WILL like the daily releases.
>>8314733nta but how else am I supposed to heat up my room during the winter?
>>8314741careful with the tentacles bro, jannies don't like it
furries will claim there's no dataset poisoning but sometimes it just does this to my boyshttps://files.catbox.moe/c29q35.jpg
>>8314744oy uwu, cool it with the antifurryism
>>8314744YOU VIL TAKE ZE KNOT
>>8314744>jordach has infiltrated the model
>>8314744>didn't use the negative prompt with 300 furshit tagsnobody to blame but yourself
>>8314744>no metadata
>>8314744That's how the conversion happens, little trick here a bad gen there. Pony v7 will just be bara gay sex with hats between ponies
Do we have to retrain all the LORAs, to make it work with Illusion? Or can the Pony LORAs work as well?
>>8314752Can I stop at kemoshota catboy orgies?
hahahahaha it gets funnier kohya just keeps calling the drhead code shills outbless that Jap I love him
Aty from "Summon Night"
I can't stop genning slop. I'm on 18k pictures in the last 13 days. I just keep adding characters, outfits, artists and poses to my script which runs all day.I don't even care if some parts of the image are fucked up, I just switch to the next one.Inpainting? Never used.The outfit is inconsistent in a set of pics? Don't care
>>8314756nice slime tits, slimebox?
After 1 year and over 1000 lora training runs the ethical xenoblade triple catgirl oyakodon lora is within sight. The technology is finally there, I've found settings that overcome the areas that the AI struggles with, and the datasets are finally done. And now I'm just hours away from being able to gen a catgirl having her daughter and great great grandaughter drink cum out of her pussy while getting gang banged and creampied. Remember to always follow your dreams, /h/
>>8314770Godspeed, anon.
>>8314770based
>>8314770>Remember to always follow your dreams, /h/I have a fetish of female hypnos( the pokemon) mating by hypnotizing humans into fucking them . So far as I know no artist thats done his so ai is basically my best bet off seeing this,But where to start?
What's the best local model atm? I haven't used it for a while. Or are people still using pony?
>>8314773that's fairly popular so a lora will do
>>8314770ty for reminding me that i should actually get around to trainin this, repost bot
>>8314770i'm about to start with manual tagging for sex machines after a break, the end's in sight
>>8314770unironically write a paper about it
>>8314773Probably pony and some lora like https://civitai.com/models/925062/hypno-anthro-pokemon
>>8314774there is a non pony called illsutrous shilled here but it's basically shit with the upside being the pony model maker isn't involved and they are schizo about him
>>8314774yes, yes pony is still good, carry on and do some sexy gens
>>8314770So what was the breakthrough?
>>8314774Pony is still the best.
>>8314770>follow your dreams, /h/way ahead of youi'm already generating my ideal wife being creampied in the missionary position for the express purpose of breeding
Stuff like iterative latent upscale was fucking garbage in 1.5 because even if it was by small steps, there was a pretty hard limit on how clean it could denoise a larger scaled canvas because it was trained on 512x512 so even a 1024x1024 canvas was x4 the pixels of the originally trained resolution. It required higher denoise to completely denoise the artifacts introduced in latent upscale which caused a complete breakdown of the composition.This is mainly why people shifted to img2img based tile upscaler for bigger upscales because upscaling in pixel space resulted in a clean latent before being fed into the sampler for img2img.
>>8314774Noob is what most people have switched to, as a non shitpost answer, though illustrious mixes make a close secondhttps://civitai.com/models/833294?modelVersionId=1022833Try v-pred if you know what those words mean, stick with epsilon if you don't want to bother learning
>>8314783that post was from something like 6 or 8 months ago and it turned out there was no breakthrough. i could do it with illustrious now though
Anyone have any good pony mixes to recommend? I've been using JSConfetti currently but want to branch out.
I will say the guy who made the Pony model is a dickhead though
>>8314788well fuck I got baited by the repost bot
>>8314790He isn't. He gave you model for free, it's his prerogative to do as he likes. Beggars can't be choosers.
https://files.catbox.moe/kk7pmg.jpg
>>8314793>He gave you model for freehe published his model publicly by his free will so he actually has no control what we do with it and we have 0 obligation to him for the publicly released model
>>8314802>leg tuns into second hand>pants floating in midair behind her?
>>8314802why are her pants floatingwhat's that brown thing coming out of her mouth under his dickwhy does he have two left hands
Is that new anime confetti model good?
>>8314804>>8314805it's an mmf with an invisible male. retards, baka
>>8314807tisnt
>>8314793This. He used his own brainpower, creativity and resources to train a model for everyone to enjoy. Pony outperforms every model available and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Artist tags aren't needed when you can just train a lora. If you don't like it you can simply choose to not use my model
>>8314811why is it so unfunny?
>>8314793You're kind of slow if you don't realize that he's obviously doing it for monetary reasons. Even more retarded when he's already asking for money with his censored to hell model lmao.
>had a machine learning methods discussion in a dreamit's over
>>8314813because there isn't a single shed of originality in that shitpost. every sentence is something someone has already posted before and then some
>>8314793Imagine if it was stuck behind a service.
>>8314817Now imagine training inside a dream and actually waiting hours of in-dream time to finish baking the perfect lora, having a whole post-mortem analysis of why it was successful, how to apply it to future bakes, and then waking up.
reForge guy here, as some anons suggested time ago, moved 12 built it extensions to separate repos you can "git clone" if you use them (raunet, skimmed cfg, dynamic thresholding, etc). dynamic thresholding got updated as well.Also updated on dev/dev2: SAG (now works), FreeU, multidiffusion/tiled diffusion.Also x2, updated torch-torchvision-xformers to latest versions.Also x3, I still keep uploading grids of top 35k artists on https://huggingface.co/datasets/Panchovix/noob_top35kartists/tree/mainToday in the evening all artists should be done.
>>8314768https://files.catbox.moe/quaeqf.png
>>8314728I'm feeling weird mix of disgust and pride for having my post be used by the bot
>>8314773Pony doesn't know hypno, a lot of models don't for some reason. Noob does so it shouldn't be hard to do it I've genned the opposite way a few times
>>8314827What? I legit can't tell what it's a repost and what is not
>>8314825el basado
>>8314826cute lizard thing
latent upscaling isnt that bad wish i could halve the effect doe
I haven't gotten around to trying vpred 0.5 until now, and holy shit it's toasty I only use 5 CFG and it burns the colors real bad
>>8314837Use 4, 5 is fried
>>8314838It's ridiculous that you should even need to go that low
>>8314841Uhh no?
>>8314844Why wouldn't it be? I think being able to go up to at least 6 CFG (without it frying) for prompt adherence is relatively reasonable
>>83148414 is nothing, you'll have to use cfg 1 in 1.0
>>8314837works on my machine
>>8314837you can try rescale cfg
Pony doesn't look like /aco/Pony doesn't look like sepiaLoras are omnipotent
>>8314836Thanks for announcement! Are you going to preserve the whole dataset in your new models? I am mostly interested in prompting gpo.
>>8314850How does rescale work? Do I just set the multipler around 0.5?
Remember to have a zinc rich diet, it pays off.
>>8314857what are some good foods for zincI used to eat sunflower seeds every morning but I'm not sure that's enough
>>8314852Our top researchers are currently investing whether GPO potentially infringes on an artist's creative property. While we are open to a diverse range of stylistic expression, we do not want to cause any emotional damage to the brave artists who helped make this amazing technology possible.
>>8314860Just buy zinc tablets, they are super cheap and they help you sleep better on top.
>>8314860Literally buy tablets their cheap, 50mg tablets us like $10 for 100 or something
>>8314854not sure how it works, but 0.45-0.5 are good values imo
>>8314860supplements are cheap as fuck bro
>>8314862>>8314865I guess I could look into thatHow many mgs should you eat per day
https://civitai.com/models/944844/2k-ultimate-xl-13gb-fp32 what is this
>>8314836>>8314852>>8314861so this is why the removed the ip counter>>7951932>>7951934 >>7951946 trannitors deserve painful death, every last one of them. incompetent fucking retards
Anyone else decide to pick up drawing after Noob crashed and burned? The process is surprisingly enjoyable.
>>8314861Not giving them acknowledgement for their work by using their name is a disgrace to their artwork.
>>8314869I do 50mg with sunflower lethicin, pygeum amd gonna add arginine back in I think.
>>8314841Lower CFG being required means the model is adhering to the prompt better. I'm not quite sure why people are freaking out about having to turn a slider down to get good results. You can also just use APG, which is a toggle.
>>8314880>>>/ic/
so I heard cascade finetune is doing really good and it's mostly anime despite being done by a furry? results look already better than pony despite being a prototype but not nai3 level, do you think he'll be able to close the gap with the fully cooked model?
>>8314892>cascade finetuneI would love a link or name I can google so I can put those results in the same room as me.
>>8314892it does look promising but i'm going to say no. by throwing it all into the dataset you cannot achieve peak results. a hentai finetune on top of that finetune could potentially, but the base tune won't by nature of it being a booru slopping pot. dataset curation is incredibly underrated and the cascade model is intentionally uncurated.you know how you're supposed to clean and prepare your dataset if you want your loras to not turn out shit? well that same thing needs to be done for a finetune, and it's an opinionated process
When generating an image with Pony models, it seems to subtly apply a random internal style to each image. Sometimes its more realistic, other times more anime, etc. This happens with all prompts. Is there a way to make each generation more deterministic?
>SD still can't make handsI'm tried of re-generating and playing hand gacha, bros
>>8314903isn't naiv3 just whole danbooruwith quality tags?
fucking hope jannies do a mercy blow and kill this trash general for good
>>8314904>Is there a way to make each generation more deterministic?Don't use base Pony, also use a lora (since you can't use artist tags, which is why the base style is so melty and random) to stabilize the outputThis will be fixed in Ponyflow v7 thoughbeitever! You'll be able to prompt style_cluster_95723802128 for a fixed and coherent style of your favorite anthro dragon artists
>>8314906We have no idea what's inside nai and also they may have developed their own ai tools that categorize images based on quality/aesthetics. It's not necessary that they just use booru scores to sort the images, in fact they probably didn't.
>>8314857>>8314860Do not take zinc supplements in and any form except for "chelated". I decided to go cheap once and got citrate instead, I was shitting non-stop for a few days, it was fucking sick and disgusting. Sulfate would be even worse.
>>8314903>and the cascade model is intentionally uncurated.No it's not. He didn't add NL captions to the dataset but he did curated the dataset in some way, I remember him saying something like that. That's why the dataset doesn't reach even 7M (for now)
innate pony character get forgotten when using some artist lora, doesnt make sense to me
>>8314588The tail wasn't showing between her legs and there was a random artist signature in the bottom right. Her hand on her face is still fucked up too but I didn't feel like inpainting
>>8314920lmao that's unfortunate
>>8314923Loras are basically summed up with the numbers in matrices that comprise the base model. Effectively you are changing the base model. If lora is strong, some things may be completely overwritten/erased. Hence why it's really better to just have lots of artists and characters innate so you don't have to deal with these problems.Although I rarely have problems with just one lora.
>>8314904well you could try actually asking it to use a stylealso use autismmix
>>8314928>Hence why it's really better to just have lots of artists and characters innate so you don't have to deal with these problems.no it isn't, just do a proper lora, good loras are better than shit from model
>>8314932this, pony with lora is vastly better than coping with illustrous
>>8314932>>8314933So true sisters!
>>8314932yes it is, it's not even debatableloras destroy the unetyou can't have more than 5 full weight loras even if they are made perfectly
>>8314937more like 2-3, 5 is wild
>>8314937wanting to mix more than 5 things in is mostly on the level of schizo slopping anyway that you can get by merging those loras into the base model
vpred 0.5 is really good, damnI have high hopes for vpred 1.0 now
>>8314932Yeah sure a lora will make that one specific thing you are trying to achieve look better, but what you are doing in order to achieve this quickly is a low-dimension finetune with higher lr. So you WILL nuke a lot of the shit from the base model. Not to mention there are so few good loras, the number is probably still in the single digits despite there being thousands of garbage loras out there. I'd really rather not outsource this process to retards with 12gb gpus.
>>8314942no its not please stop spreading misinformation
do people still use kohya-ss for training LoRAs and shit?
>>8314945yea it sucks. whenever i enable a lora that's made to generate the one specific thing i want all of the sudden i can't prompt things that i don't want to prompt unless i disable that lora. what's even the point?
>>8314937>>8314932>>8314928>>8314923sasuga reposty-kun
If I can ask a retard level question, what's the difference between base prompt and common prompt in regional prompter?
foundational models are goodfinetunes are overfittedloras are hyperfitted garbageif you can get it all into the foundational model (dall-e), that's great. if you can achieve it with a finetune (nai/pony), that's alright too. if you're stuck using a lora, you're coping. loras are quite literally copium tools design to smash information into the model to hamfist an understanding. even the base styles pony still knows are far better than their lora equivalents. even gpo
todays reposts are brought to you by /hdg/ Hentai Diffusion General #519
>>8314956>if you can get it all into the foundational model (dall-e)It all being? Dalle is trash with styles, it barely knows any artists and when you prompt for general styles your anime gen still has that Dalle look in the end with a hint of intended style but not fully there, it feels like using an underbaked lora.
>>8314955base prompt = used for a number of steps in all regions by itself (per base ratio) before switching to region promptscommon prompt = prepended to all region prompts
Baking a new thread at bump limit. Thots?
>>8314965Ah yes, this one is repost, I member
>>8314965>Baking a new thread at bump limitbro? >>8304270
Any good discord AI groups?
>>8314971el meow
>>8314965Wait I'm already baking
>>8314959Huh. I might just be low iq but there does some seem to be a bit of overlap thereSo things like like artist tags should go in base prompt right? And is it right that if I should try and put image composition stuff like 1boy 1girl in base prompt?Oh right, and if I have both I assume it goes base -> common -> regions right?
>>8314971the blacked2hu 'cord
>>8314972What's so funny you retard?
reposty-kun is getting uppity...
>>8314976Link please?
>>8314979aura.
>>8314983where did you get a photo of me
>>8314974I pretty much never use base prompts since their concepts are lost
>>8314983it's an expression of pain
Define /aco/
>>8314992defined nostrils. western eyes. thick outlines. must have at least 2
>>8314825Nice, boy I hope some guy as brave as you will be willing to do one for characters
>>8314996>please gen every character on danbooruruhmao
>>8314992Anything I don't like is /aco/
>>8314825>4526x218827jesus fucking christ
>>8314999*every character that mattersyes
>>8315002This but unironically.
We like /aco/ here
who is we
>>8315008you
>>8315006why is it so anime?
>>8315010(nose:1.8) in the negatives
>>8315005so, only Reimu, Miku and Asuka?that seems easy
>>8315013You forgot Hilda.
>>8314581This is a very cute picture, would you share the catbox? I'd like to try make mine too
guys what tagger do you use nowapparently i used to use wd-v1-4-moat-tagger-v2is that still good
>>8314956/h/ will say you're baiting but you're right, loras are a crutch for a bad modelthere's a reason why we're all using pony instead of 1.5 anymore, because it requires LESS lorasideally we'd use zero loras, because loras do ruin the output
>>8315022wd eva02 large tagger v3
https://files.catbox.moe/9tmp70.jpg
>>8315024thanks fren
>>8315022wd14 vit v3
>>8315022use wd-eva02-large-tagger-v3>>8315023reposty-sama~
I am genuinely feeling so stupidCould someone gen a basic ass side by side of any two random characters using regional prompter and put it in a box for me? I need to see what the hell I could possibly be doing wrong here
Does anyone know of any better VAE alternatives compared to the default fp16 sdxl VAE?To elaborate, I'm not looking for a VAE that just adjusts the tone/color of the picture, like XL_VAE_C and it's variants, but rather one that helps with details (I know, it sounds impossible due to the 4 channel restriction)I did try this newer VAE from civit:https://civitai.com/models/888145/aaa-anime-sdxl-vae?modelVersionId=1042046Which claims to help with artifacts on lineart, details, etc. but improvements were either marginal and sometimes the image looked more blurry, but it wasn't too bad. Prob. need to experiment more with it.Another VAE I'm really curious about and which I have not seen before is one called lpips_avgpool_e4.safetensors but I can't find it anywhere (found the name of VAE from metadata in a aibooru post) .Again, are there any other VAE's worth trying out that I haven't mentioned already?
>>8315038>better VAE alternativesno. there was one anon in here fucking with the decoder and getting EXTREMELY SLIGHTLY better results over base, but again, no. that's the best you got
uh oh melty
>>8315006>>8315021good gens. you are valid
>>8315036Like this?https://files.catbox.moe/bwvokb.png
is discard penultimate sigmas a free lunch or snake oil?
>>8315048That should work, let me give it a look and see if I was making some dumbass simple mistake
>>8315038Yeah, the vae I'm using in 2026
>>8315057Still 4ch?
>>8315059Nyes
>>8314996my pc won't be enough for that, I have 2x4090 which have been genning for some days. after like 3 days it will gen the top 35k artists, but for characters there are like prob millions kekwell it would have taken less than that if I did gen just 1 image, but I feel it is too few for a comparison>>8315004yeah they are huge, as hf says i suggest to use qview, but other suggestions are welcome as welll to see these large images
>>8315021sexy stylebox?
>>8315048Uh, actually, as embarrassing as it is, could I get one on an epsilon noob? That's all I'm using right now so just following that is giving me color blobs, which I expect is because of the model difference
>>8315061if you were to do only characters above 1k images you'd still have to gen 2245 characters lmao
>>8315063it's just (wlop:0.6), dino \(dinoartforame\), teddy \(khanshin\), ribiadan, + teardrop lora at 0.5 strength. noob 0.5 epslora doesnt really do much, mostly just fucking around with styles, this one is aight
>>8315066oof, and these 35k artists come from ordering all artists from most to less posts, while having at least 50 postsnot sure how many characters are that have at least 50 posts, which is factible that they may work
>>8315072well going to page 1000 on danbooru takes you to characters with around 70 posts per. so if you wanted to do that, have fun genning 20k characters
>>8315064Not going to switch models for that, but here's some old shit I had lying around that was genned on eps 0.5.https://files.catbox.moe/oh2u8a.png
>>8315071sweet, thanks I'll give that mix a tryis it this lora? https://civitai.com/models/468907/teardrop-style
>>8315080yea
>>8315078This one works, I'll try and reverse engineer where I screwed up from here. Thanks a ton anon
>>8315040>>8315042sometimes i go on the r34 booru and look at the ai generated tabgenuinely 98%+ of it looks like this, SD 1.5 gigaslopare jeets just perpetually out of the loop or are their prompts and parameters just unbelievably bad
>>8315104Both, and they also think it looks good for some reason
>>8315104jeets unironically cream their pants over realism gens
>>8315023Actually the reason I use XL instead of 1.5 is because of how much better it is at details, hands, accessories, eyes, etc.I'd much rather stay on 1.5 with all my style LoRas if I could.
I was NOT aligning my steps properly.....
>>8315104Doesn't help that they can only run SD1.5 on their gtx 1050
>>8315104do that but then check the comments"people" love this
>>8315115I hate to admit that this made my pp erect more than any noob post
>>8315124>rule34 commentsoh no
>>8315104Aom2 never left their hard drive they ran out of bandwidth after that
>>8315126or look at the score, same shit, just pointing out that they love it
What's wrong with AOM?
>>8314976ID 1115713614129680484? If it is then >>8314982 isn't missing out on anything, that server is pretty dead.
>>8315130If you can't see what's wrong with it you should probably pay a visit to your local optometrist
>>8315130Too much soul for the average jaded /hdg/ autist
>>8315087Huh. It might be just using it wrong, or expecting it to do things it can'tLet's say I wanted to gen two people side by side with one in their default outfit and one naked. If I just do the normal tags + completely nude it will probably make them both nakedSo I thought I'd do regional prompter with generic 1boy 1girl side-by-side in common, then region one is girl name and region two is boy name + completely nude but it doesn't seem to be workingIs that an issue with my prompt, or am I fundamentally coming at it from the wrong angle?
>>8314825Just so you know, on the latest commit this setting>Downcast model alphas_cumprod to fp16 before sampling. For reproducing old seeds.Breaking every scheduler when true, except AYS on vpred checkpoints, I don't know why, also keked about alphas_cumprod, don't even know why it ruined everything. Hope you could figure out compel thing anyway
>>8315038he probably tuned it on objective loss only and didnt use a subjective loss like lpips or dists, thats why it looks blurrier, or at least when i looked at metrics they were up but subjective took a big toll even compared to base sdxl
>>8315130nothing
>>8315154Works for me, post prompt
>>8315155Huh that is a weirdly specific bug, but probably could be related to sd_sampler_cfg_denoiser.py, though I changed that months ago. That didn't happen in the past? Does it happen with all samplers or just a1111 samplers? At least that option seems to come from sd_models.py which I haven't touched since some months ago.And yeah I have paused compel a little to focus on other commits, because man I'm not sure how to port it after trying for some entire days
>>8315160https://files.catbox.moe/xa8sfc.pngBefore you ask, yes this prompt is completely bare bones, that's on purpose. I was originally trying something more complex but at this point I just want to get a basic anything with RP working and then build back up. I'm stripping it to bare bones to make sure I'm not cocking anything up
Hmmm thread is moving a little slow (yet again) and seems to have grinded to a halt. You know what this means right?Give me your waifu/girl and optionally your artist mix (if you want), and I will post them getting flattened (in a sexy way) by G-forces in cockpit/centrifuge :)))
>>8315176It works. Did you click this before genning?
>>8315161>That didn't happen in the past?With eps checkpoints no. Not so much time passed since something viable vpredded came out and I was just using ays all the time, so haven't discovered any problems ig>And yeah I have paused compel a little to focus on other commits, because man I'm not sure how to port it after trying for some entire daysowari da...>Does it happen with all samplers or just a1111 samplers?https://files.catbox.moe/05z4ty.png black images not always just erroring, with some it just sampling black image, different errors for different combos
>>8315184Original anon here, just to proof that this is not from the repost bot, I have replied to said mentioned post.
>>8315187For you? Could you post the result you got if soAnd yeah, I did. Just sent it to png info now, clicked that, generated. Same image as before
you guys in the vpred channel are so retarded with your loss scaling snake oil autism you made euge use no loss scaling instead of just doing the minsnr 7 which already got proven by naiimpressive
>>8315202Looks horrible, but it generated exactly what you wantedhttps://files.catbox.moe/4hdl6i.png
>>8315189Huh I see, just if you can and have time, can you test on a1111 for eps models? I have the same code to downcast model alphas cumprod, but maybe on the backend or cfg denoiser is making those issues.I also have updated torch on latest commit (2.3.1 to 2.5.1), so maybe that could be a reason as well?
>>8315210HuhSorry as it is to say then, I guess the only answer is that my computer is just too shit to handle regional prompter, cause that's all I can think of. Unless there's other generation settings that wouldn't get set by the png info being sent to txt2img
>>8315213stop using regional prompter and use forge couple instead it's way less of a headache
>>8315219My rudimentary research said that regional was the direct upgrade to coupling, but hell at this point I'll give anything a shot, let me go try it
Anon, flip your negative and positive prompt RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>8315228it's too cursed, i can't post it
>>8315211It works fine with eps models, despite of guireforge https://files.catbox.moe/k6edwb.pngauto1111 https://files.catbox.moe/c4iman.png lol, total garbage output, but whatever>I also have updated torch on latest commit (2.3.1 to 2.5.1), so maybe that could be a reason as well?Can't see that in reqs, still using torch: 2.1.2+cu121 anyway, does new torch even have xformers?
>>8315219Would that behttps://github.com/ashen-sensored/stable-diffusion-webui-two-shotOrhttps://github.com/Haoming02/sd-forge-couple
fuck pony vs illust/noob, how many here are still using nai?
>>8315213>my computer is just too shitHow shit?
>>831525312GB 3060Intel i7-1070016 GB ram
>>8315258I genned that crap on 3050, laptop one at that, so there must be a different explanation
>>8315260Odd as it is to say, it's actually encouraging to hear this is just from me being a fucking tard than my hardware.I wouldn't know where to look in settings or whatever else, the only major difference than that is that your gen was from vpred and mine was from epsilon, but even then the region prompt just flat out didn't take on my end.I'll try different sampling methods and CFG scales for now, see if that does anything
>>8315247the latter
>>8315205Why don't you just say that in the channel instead of yelling into the void here?
>>8315263I'm also using forge, so you might also try that, maybe re-installing reforge will help
>>8315269Eh, it's worth a shot. I'll admit I'm knew enough to this I thought regular forge was still abandoned. Sorry if this are annoying newbie questions
>>8315268i just love complaining
regional prompting is fucking useless, you want to just inpaint the 2nd char with a new prompt in not try force it all in one step
>>8315276fair enough, contributing information that might help means there'd be less to complain about too
>>8315236it is because it changes the libraries based on the launch utils codehttps://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/218cdbf59bb197742266dec4e552cc319f3b7833if you have skip torch version it doesn't re install it I think. And yes, torch 2.5.1 has a working xformers.And so ok I guess it is as how a1111 works.
use couple instead of regional
>>8315281exactly, someone who is not me should fix it and i will continue to yell at the walls in my padded wall room till it happens
is v-pred 0.5 fried or am I doing something wrong?
>>8315298It is, use cfg 4
Why sdxl can only generate 'simple background '
>>8315284>it is because it changes the libraries based on the launch utils codeBut why does it look so much better with reforge anyway? Another lora trained on ancient vpred version that works, and even better, with far epsilon 1.0>if you have skip torch version it doesn't re install it I thinkI had just this --skip-install --skip-version-check, but relaunching without won't update versions, there was some key for forcing torch reinstallation, I remember that for sure
>>8315304>But why does it look so much better with reforge anyway?No idea, seeds are pretty different nowadays and the cfg denoiser implementation of reforge differs from a1111 (and is entirely different vs comfy), so I guess seeds aren't 1:1? Maybe if catboxanon is out there can answer that.>I had just this --skip-install --skip-version-check, but relaunching without won't update versionsWeird it doesn't update the versions for you, I tested on a old venv and it seems to have worked D: I guess you can do, on your reforge venvpip uninstall torch torchvision xformers -yand then just launch it again normally and it should install them
i always feel a little shocked when i remember there are "people" too stupid to use regional prompter
euler A seems broken also in vpred? bro what
>>8315286>nai agrees with my opinion on min snr shitahaha
>>8315311It is, use regular euler
>>8315311If not using regular euler, you can use other samplers but with rescale cfg
>>8315306I'm a bit stupid, what can I say
>>8315311Certain noise schedulers are weird with ancestral samplers on vpred, which one are you using? I use Euler A with AYS, and APG which helps reel things in.
>>8315311it's euge
>>8314979Bored Box?
>>8315313have you seen the nai gens anon? not only they look better, but they also have more e621 than even pony. why name it pony if furry stuff is so tame? worth every penny anyway
>>8315305>so I guess seeds aren't 1:1?It's not just seed different, it's absolutely night and day diff with a11 pure garbage as output>pip uninstall torch torchvision xformers -yIt's fine, I just added --reinstall-torch --reinstall-xformers for one run instead of old args. Alphas still cumprodding into my scheduler, but whatever, that setting was for old eps reproducibility of the seeds anyway
1. enable ztsnr2. use karras3. steps = 404. start_at_step = 15enjoy your vpred
Does anyone know what paruparu is? I saw the 5ch threads talking about it a lot but it got taken down.
>>8315336Do not do this, it makes mustard gas.
>>8315298it's fried and borderline unusable
>>8315336>start_at_step = 15What is this
>>8315272Tried out forgeVAE / Text Encoder defaults to blank for some reason. It's a generic sdxl_vae.safetensors in reforged, but even searching for that file I can't find where it is to move it over to forgeMy gens all look notably lower quality in forge, which I have to assume is because of the aforementioned missing text encoder or some other setting I forgot to adjust, but it is what it isMost annoyingly enough, I can't even test regional prompter to see if it works. I install it but the tab just outright does not show up like it does in reforged
>>8315337Also here are some others the moonies were talking about that didn't get deletedhttps://huggingface.co/hybskgks28275/checkpoint/tree/main/HarmoniqMixhttps://huggingface.co/Qnuk/Illustrious_Models_AsumaXL/tree/main
btw what happened to the guy who was finetuning the vae encoder of sdxl????
>>8315006>>8314839>>8315039>>8315075Boxes...p-please?
>>8315344>sdxl_vae.safetensorsIt's in vae folder, goes to the same folder in forge>Most annoyingly enough, I can't even test regional prompter to see if it works. I install it but the tab just outright does not show up like it does in reforgedI think you're supposed to use a different fork of RP in forge
>>8315354It isn't though, that's the odd thingIn my reforged folder there's nothing in there https://files.catbox.moe/cx6l8t.PNG Like so, and yet when I actually open reforged it still shows up right at the top next to checkpoint. I'm trying to check around settings to see if I can find the filepath it's coming from. Failing that is it something basic I can just download online?I fixed the quality issue though, I was using some sampler in reforge that isn't there in forge, and a super small cfg. Pushing the cfg back up fixes thingsAnd I'll poke around at other extensions to see what I can find
>>8315338my first and the last picture in this shithole, this is euler a btw>>8315343KSampler (Advanced)
>>8315333cute feet
>>8315362>Failing that is it something basic I can just download online?Just Google it, there's definitely snake oil one on civitai
>>8315336My steps feel so misaligned
>>8315344>I install it but the tab just outright does not show up like it does in reforgedTry this forkhttps://github.com/jessearodriguez/sd-forge-regional-prompter
>Post centrifuge/G-force gens here based on /hdg/ anons requested waifus>Get praised, a "based", the occasional kek and lul.>Do the same thing in the /slop/ thread on /trash/>*crickets*/hdg/ is many things, but one thing for sure is that you guys have very good taste compared to those over at /slop/.
>>8315375Isn't that thread just for blacked nai shit or something?
>>8315375I mean, those are kind of impressive in a way, disgusting but impressive, they just don't care about the effort there we do at some degree
>>8315375its not about taste but at least its some effort and different from the rest so it stands out
Okay but what sampler and cfg for epsilon models
>>8315380Euler a cfg 5
>>8315380Can use up to 6.5 CFG for both eps 0.5 and 0.75don't use eps 1.0 its complete utter garbage, even vpred 0.5 is a better option but obviously you gotta use other settings
>>8315380I'm using those weird euler cfg++ things at like 1.5
>>8315368kek ty
>>8315377>Isn't that thread just for blacked nai shit or something?Sometimes, it's everything at once IMO, femboys, figurines, aco, loli, blacked etc. It's sort of the wild west in terms of ai nsfw gen.>>8315378>kind of impressive in a way, disgusting but impressive,Thank you, but yeah seems like they don't care as you mentioned. I can always count on you guys though c:Though how can I make it "less" disgusting and more appealing? Like is there any way I could make it to the highlights if I toned down some things in my G-force focused images, without removing the concept entirely?>>8315379>its not about taste but at least its some effort and different from the rest so it stands outI like this take.
>>8315375I mean, it's a thread literally devoted to masturbation to the gens. I doubt anyone actually gonna get horny to g-forced wrinkly asuka, they don't really care about the tech.>>8315377Nah, they bully blackedfags out of threads immediately, at least they did back when I lurked there.
>>8315389I'm gonna keep it real with you bro, I don't think there's any way you can make your anime girls in centrifuges fetish appeal to normies regardless of how you gen it
>>8315330schizo moment
>>8315374Well god dammit now they're BOTH therehttps://files.catbox.moe/xlondy.PNGOkay well, at least I have something to test now
>>8315390>I doubt anyone actually gonna get horny to g-forced wrinkly asukaI mean, I know some who do... (pic related)>>8315395>I don't think there's any way you can make your anime girls in centrifuges fetish appeal to normies regardless of how you gen itOnce inter-planetary space travel becomes more common, your grand kids are gonna love this shit /s
>>8315395But also thanks for being honest about it. Probably at some point in the near future I'm gonna be tired of this concept as well and do less of it.
>>8315398URETHRA! IT WORKS!I'm going to try installing the fork anon linked me on reforged to see if it works over there. Baring that I can just move to regular forged full time, but there are one or two things it's missing that I'm curious about if I have to end up making a permanent switch
>>8315406I meant that more as ribbing than like an attack on your gens, in case that didn't come across. They are absolutely fantastic work no denying, I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if they don't get as much attention as an anime girl with a huge ass twerking it among normal company you know?
>>8315396come on anon, who doesn't like furry dick fanout? >>8309054 the art is plain amazing
>>8315411No no I didn't take your response as critique at all!>They are absolutely fantastic work no denying, Thanks manI'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if they don't get as much attention as an anime girl with a huge ass twerking it among normal company you know?I just thought based on some other anons responses here that /slop/ would want anything, but that doesn't seem like the case. Just wanted to try and post there for fun honestly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Also kudos to you for being nice, we need more anons like you.
>>8315352https://files.catbox.moe/qhgiia.png
>>8315414I haven't seen your gens so far. are you gonna post again?
>>8315417I asked if anyone had a waifu/girl in mind I could put in the fuge for some G's, but none responded :c
>>8315408Okay yeah, it's absolutely some issue with reforged. To summarizeLooks like https://github.com/hako-mikan/sd-webui-regional-prompter doesn't work in reforged, I'm just not getting next to any input when I try and use it on therehttps://github.com/jessearodriguez/sd-forge-regional-prompter gets me a plain old 'NoneType' object is not iterable in reforgedBut they work in regular forge. So for the time being I'm going to have to swap over, or at the very least I'll have to use forged for any regional prompting and reforged for everything else. I'll also try some of those other couple extensions people posted above in reforged, because I honestly would prefer to stay over there.
>>8315417But if you're asking for a collection of my gens if you haven't seen any of them before, I can send them all to you via catbox id you'd like!
>>8315419I'll bite. can you do rebecca or lucy?
>>8315421so fucking BASED
>>8315425I might be able to do both at the same time actually - both characters from Cyberpunk right?
>>8315428cyberpunk, yes. up to you which one you wanna do
Any good collection of wildcards for sex positions for noob?
>>8315421Naked doing a full split, both 2 shots one from the front and one from behind.Another in a wedding dress with thin see through skin tight white silk dress so one can see her navel, coochie and nipples holding a bouquet of white roses in one hand.
Guys I got a copyright mail infringement from nintendo
>>8315441are you using pony to gen pokemon anon? nintendo are pretty sensitive about that
>>8315441if it's for princess peach then very deserved
>>8315444Well they are retarded and linked other stuff that was in the strike wave in the mail and most of it is not ai>>8315449Its for pokegirls
>>8315421do some chibis, any topic, any clothes
Actually there's really only one thing I'm worried about moving from reforged to forge. Reforged has these 'CFG++' samplers, variations of pretty much all the basic ones. I got recommended them when I first started (not that long ago in case my basic questions didn't make it clear) and they work well at very low CFGIs there a way to get those over to forge? And baring that, what CFG should I be running regular samplers at?
>>8315441i didn't
>>8315477fucking keki wasted tons of time trying to do reference sheet stuff with walls of negs on local, without success, and NAI can do it effortlessly
>>8315485The opus level subscription for NAI really is such an incredible value
>>8315311Use Euler B instead.
>>8315380>dpm++ 3m sde / SGM uniformLove those lil' niggas like you wouldn't believe.
fun at the kids poolhttps://files.catbox.moe/h8ubs5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/63rgoo.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/aymhrf.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/pjhmq4.png
>>8314665That's funny. I do have the NAI extension but never figured that would somehow intervene with local gens. Go figure. I rarely even use NAI these days so at least it's an easy fix. Thanks, reforge anon.
>>8315495Children.....
/hdg/ on NAI V3 release day: https://archived.moe/h/thread/7656173/It's depressing seeing the generation quality take a nosedive from this point as NAI subs expire and NAI genners leave.
>>8315502no more posts, kay?
>>8315504?
>>8315495can you make a loli version of hilda or rosa
>>8315501definitely too loli for me, but very cute tummies
>>8315502noice
>>8315512Here's a quick one for you then bro
>>8315515thanks, although it feels somehow uncanny to see her like this
>>8315515Here is an Ibaraki for your Shutenhttps://files.catbox.moe/0rbi72.png
>>8315511I've done some of that a while agohttps://files.catbox.moe/92t5q7.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/iwx9qt.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/o7v05a.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/yoaf7r.png
>>8315375It's maybe not my taste but I can still appreciate effort and you seem you have the good person type of autism over some people in these threads who have the hateful type
>>8315519Cute oni
>>8315512That's the perfect body type tho
>>8315520Nice thanks
>>8315432I ended up doing Rebecca anon, I could do more touch ups probably, but it's getting late!I added a magic wand to her pussy to make it extra spicy and sexy :))), and tried having less emphasis on wrinkles and more so on some parts of the body getting kinda squashed/flattened from G-forces so it has more appeal. But I can really feel that the original Locon that I trained on illus is starting to have less of an effect/harder to use on newer noob checkpoints, so might have to retrain. E.g vpred 0.5 never gives me a coherent result with my current Locon.>>8315521Thanks man, I appreciate it and it means a lot!Guess I did get the good person type of autism :D
Has anybody tinkered with SpotDiffusion yet?
>>8315524i like flat hebes the mostbut models really don't like to gen this body type
>>8315518Fair, probably better to switch art styles for something like that
>>8315532the dream is that some day someone will be autistic enough to create an "age slider" for models to acquire the perfect 1girl
if I want to retrain my loras for illustrious/noob/whatever the hot model is, which one should I pick or what are they based on? Or are they the base models? I remember reading some months ago that it was better to use a model with common ancestry example nai instead of anything v5,anylora, etc in the 1.5 days and so on. Also from my results I used this illustrious mix and liked it much more than noob but is noob better now since I see it shilled more?https://civitai.com/models/811067?modelVersionId=907264 (illustrious I used, SPO)https://civitai.com/models/833294?modelVersionId=968495 (noob I used, 0.5 epsilon I see it's outdated now)
>>8315485I feel like I have gotten okay sprites as long as I also maybe throw in a controlnet image to get a good negative space ratio but that one with the cherry tree background is enviable. Has that semi photo conversion fighting game background look. Also the items looking more like game item style where I feel like local misses the mark and tends to pull more form aliased pixel art "styles" instead of actual utility based pixel-art. But I think that comes down to the theory of Nai using some official concept art library to supplement for official art styles or something.
>>8315245catbo?
>>8315416thankyu
>>8315474>>8315501So based, thanks shuten cunny god,
>>8315537illust until noob vpred 1.0 is released
>spend all day trying to figure out why multi-style lora isn't learning one of the styles>4 iterations and 9 hours later realize that i forgot to add that style to the datasetim so fucking retarded
>>8315552what makes you think it will be good?
>>8315537ancestry only applies to shitmixestrain the lora on whatever model you use
>>8315557i don't know if 1.0 will be good. but i think that 0.5 is, when the loras i trained for it worked they turned out better than illustrious equivalents in most regards. once 1.0 is out they will ideally be finished releasing new v-pred iterations and at that point i'm planning to to pick the best version of it to stick with.
>>8315483blackbox?
>>8315501why is it so much better than everything else itt?
>>8315567Because it's not even prepubescent in shape.
>>8315556What styles you training cuh?
>>8315573darker
>>83155723d
>>8315502miqobox?
been out for a month. has pony v7 released yet? and has flux succeeded at making porn yet
>>8315567Because you're a pedo?
>>8315576got you bro
>>8315585yes, but why is it so much better than all the other pedo gens here?
>>8315577what artist is this?
>>8315587DARKER, NAI levels zesty
>>8315589it's pony
>>8315018https://files.catbox.moe/6gqrgc.png
why are the pedos back
>>8315590Sir
>>8315596perfect
nipples were missing in image lol>>8315582https://files.catbox.moe/bce9qv.png>>8315589its for my newest lora for an artist called M0_Chi.https://civitai.com/models/944967/m0chi-or-artist-style-or-illustrious-xl
which lora is this?
>>8315599why is it so /aco/?
>>8315601>no nostrilsnot quite. shading is rather ponyesque though
>>8315594why are (you) back in our thread
>>8315603couldnt be pony since it has no clue what a casino is
>>8315605nevermind, looks like they got properly wiped out
>>8315606that actually looks just like what pony gives you if you prompt for casino
if you have not aligned your steps, it may already be too late
>>8315599the miqo longs for a return to pony
>>8315607good job, trannie
how few images can you train a style lora off of
I guess you could say... it's a no chuddie zone :^)
>>8315610just an artist I found that I wanted to make a lora for. if you have any other artists you want throw them my way.
the steps align you are you align them
what if the aligned steps become misaligned
>>8315619>>8315620ok i can't ignore it, my meme lora is not just a small effect on 0.75's gen quality, it's often a major upgrade. xys coming soon. a good dedicated aesthetic tune would be absolutely incredible. my lora is just a locon extraction, maybe i should upload the full checkpoint to civitai and pass it off as an incredibly aesthetic meme mix meanwhile this shit is in the dataset
>>8315621buy an ad
Can we bake a new thread?
>>8315627why? you hate it here?
>>8315615I'd say around 20 images is a safe enough zone.
>>8315631Let this thread be a containment for the shitposters and another thread for images
While this is working, I'm curious, does regional prompter work on reforge for anyone else? I'd find it weird if I was the only one having this problem.I'll give just uninstalling and reinstalling reforge a try, see if that fixes it
>>8315432Box?
>>8315536yeah, sadly there are no artists that exclusively draw hebes, unlike lolicon, so can't promt for themthere was something like this for pony and don't think it was too goodthe problem is that models basically don't understand concepts of character height, hips and shoulders widht, etc.also base proportions on noob are pretty shit and it somehow got worse than base illu, so hard to imagine it would work
>>8315637Baking
>>8315637just fill this thread with your own gens then? so it stops being full of nogens
>>8315573box?
>>8315641SIR DO NOT REDEEM THE BAKE
>we're on page 8sasuga board slide schizo.>>8315615I've done 6, which ended up being pretty stiff but was good enough to then do another 10 to backfill.16 can be perfectly fine/serviceable as long as they're stylistically consistent.
>>8315627>t. threadshitter
>>8315645Too late>>8315648>>8315648>>8315648
>page 8Wait did the schizo really up his game with thread-specific posts now? Holy shit
Page 8 already. We're so dead bros. What happened? I don't remember it was this dead during pony months
>>8315651>bunch of threads mysteriously bumped with one post around 8 hours agothey wanna see us lose, bwo
>>8315651RIP
I blame /ic/ discord fags
>>8315658i blame (You)
Does it really matter what page we are on? A new thread will be made. People will continue to post images.People will continue to shitpost.
>>8315659I also blame (You)
going through the threads some seem organic, but most are indeed strange one-liner bumps
Baking (for realsies)
ideal way to make an ms paint sketch and have it reasonably retain the composition? im not good at this, and i keep ending up setting denoising to 1 for img2img sketch
Migrate>>8315436>>8315436>>8315436
>>8315667Based
>>8315666don't make lines, make blobs and set the control weight very low
>>8310574>Cute elf btw, care to share the box?Sorry for the late reply, it's pretty much your prompts so I'm surprised but here you go.https://files.catbox.moe/9izhcm.png
>>8314609aaaa holo box pleasewhich loras are you using
>>8315673How geet thiis lok on noob?
>>8315676idk its illustrious
>>8315676it's pony
>>8315677Box?
Migrate>>8315678>>8315678>>8315678
>>8315688kill yourself.
>>8315684https://files.catbox.moe/paxgws.png
>>8315688love yourself
>00005-154432900.png: File too large (file: 4.07 MB, max: 4 MB).Fine.
Fin
>>8315688based
>>8315692>dropped his gen like a nuke
return of cattroonreturn of cattroonreturn of cattroon say nonono
>>8315692>>8315712samefag
>>8314944catbox?
>>8314709box plz
>>8315692>>8315709>>8315712>>8315713>>8315716all me
what are you retards doing, I'm going to just wait and see which thread gets nuked first I guess
>the increased level of schizo shitposting in addition to the board sliding actually has killed the threadamazing
>>8315618Not them but would you consider baking a HoneyLala LoRA? not sure how much is up on danbooru considering they went MIA but I could probably upload a VNCG set.
>>8315726I can take a look. if you could share the cgs that would be a nice too.
https://huggingface.co/datasets/Panchovix/noob_top35kartists/tree/mainokay finally, top ~35500 artists, ordered by most to less post count, while having at least 50 posts, comparison on noob eps 1.0took 5 days on 2x4090time to rest
>>8315738>noob 1.0into the trash
nai declutter is such a great toolif only it didnt squish your image down to a tiny size and make it look like shit
>>8314733i thought the vpred version is a conversion
>>8315734cute butthole
Should I use comfy? Forge? Reforge? a111? I just want to coom...
>>8315734very noice
>>8315733My warning is that 50% of this is gay sex since that is pretty much all she worked on that isn't old.pixeldrain/u/mURWEubz
>>8315751>50% of this is gay sexoh.
>>8315738This retard unironically uploaded gigapixel PNGs instead of downscaling everything by 75% and saving a 20mb JPEG.
is there a unload models button in forge/reforge like in comfyui? i like to switch between uis and it's annoying to have to close the ui to free up vram
>>8315760you gonna cry because your 3rd world chromebook can't open an image file? fucking baby.
>>8314948sorry daddy kurumuz I meant to say noob sucks and nobody should use it
if there are anons that bake for noob eps, somebody is interested in making one from this artist? https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=1&tags=ro_g_%28oowack%29+innate style on noob for it is pure garbage
>>8315760NTA but can you even transform an image with that resolution into .jpg?
>>8315672god damn
>>8315768>innate style on noob for it is pure garbagemany such cases
>>8315738Gracias Panchito
>>8315773yeah, but this one is especially bad, probably because of how schizo and inconsistent it ismaybe only half of the pics are usable
>>8315777many artist are like that, like I would get completely different style depending of the seed with the same promptsomething fucked
>>8315662They are at least trying to make it look like it belongs to that thread this time around.
>>8315751>>8315755 (me)yeah.... im not doing that, sorry anon
>>8315788looks like a lora overcooked on the worst of SD 1.5
Is it just me or does reference controlnet on ReForge do nothing
>>8315788>>8315791do you know the answer to this question >>8315762
>>8315796go jerk off to ur ponies
>>8315809sorry that i offended you bro
>>8315812sorry that ur fucking clueless
>>8315816why are you angry about your gens looking like sd 1.5
>>8315809>>8315816BASED defensive anon. Take no shit, bro!
>>8315809>>8315816BASED AOM CHAD
>>8315821HOT
>>8315821>trying to cheat that hard into the highlightsand anon, that's still /e/ tier. turn the river into a river of cum or something.
>>8315821should've added a crowd of guys lounging in the water. high effort low creativity
>>8315827>>8315828Alright, alright, which 2hoe should I do?
>>8315829be boldbe daringdo ranma 1/2 instead
>>8315831MC or other girl?
>>8315829Sekibanki
>>8315832ranma-chan.if you want to go all out do ranma+ranma+shampoo ffm I guess.
>>8315838the perfect female doesn't exi
>>83158332hoe delivery, I honeslty wanted to do something more interesting since she's a dullahan but>effort for a shitpost genlol>>8315836>ranma+ranma+shampoo ffmBoth the male and female version at the same time? interesting, I could try it but I probably not going to do it today since it's pretty late here
noob 0.5 is fried, its so sadge
Any new shitmixes or is complexnoob2 still the go to?
Please, Are there any e-hentai search autists here?I'm looking for good paizuri/cowgirl references to use with controlnetI'm guessing artist cg is the bestbut how the fuck does that search system work? especially if I want to look for a specific parody title (say bleach or something)Plz, I know picrel is not /H/, this is the best I can do with pony
insane trolling lately
>>8315853there are also dotted outline tags and solid ouline tags, I'm guessing dotted outline tags are less certain than solidis there a way to only filter tags by solid outline?
Oh right, I forgot to upload the Bishoujo Mangekyou lorahttps://mega.nz/folder/11ZjjD7Z#-fjPGNjXYKzSDJ7P3Lb0rADon't really have much to say about the training this time other than snake oil works with AdamW8Bit I guess. The chara prompts are oyoso like this still: https://civitai.com/models/516442/bishoujo-mangekyou-orI'll update the civitai page with examples if ever I'm fucked to do so, so make do with picrel for now
>>8315860Oh right it was trained on vpred 0.5 too
>search for ranma-chan and selfcest on danbooru>two literally nothing tier results>gelbooru isn't much betterhuhwell that's unexpectedoh well.
>>8315836>>8315842nvm I got a nice seed to work with pretty early>page 9lol?
>>8315868This slaps, love me some Shampoo. Also wow that's insane, page 9 in one day
>>8315868>>page 9>lol?They are still at it, bumping threads all around.
>>8315883based
while it's cool that I get to just prompt artists like haguhagu and asterc and get the style, I can't help but miss autism and my 100gb of lora, but I'm too lazy to move shit back and forth between my hdd and tiny spare 120gb ssd. probably skill issue but my gen also look kind of dry on noob, anyway, please recommend me some cunny artist and/or lora and some tricks you guys use to improve ambience and get shiny/sweaty skin without cranking the tags up to 1.2
>they picked back up speed on slidinggeeisn't nonexistent moderation such a grand thing?
>>8315528I was half-expecting something way worse. the art style I can appreciate, bit it's not really my jam. anyway, you do you anon, who knows what space punk future awaits us>>8315639the lora for this one is up on civit anonhttps://files.catbox.moe/6denlq.png
>>8315860>Bishoujo Mangekyou loranice
>>8315734I know you're using a lora, but what's that line style called? I search for "colored linerart", but it doesn't do anything in noob
>>8315889most organic thread bump
is this /qa/? fucking kek
>>8315352https://files.catbox.moe/yz2309.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/bcaffn.png
>>8315930it's about 70% one of the lora's I'm using and about 30% the supplemental schizo style prompt I have alongside it(which intentionally pulls more stuff out of said lora).the artist for the lora has a lot of off-color sporadic highlight linework and I'm also (lightly) calling ciloranko on the supplemental styling, which adds an amount of defined lines that the lora grafts to(which tend to be red hue's). Adding "colorful" to the schizo styling bit also draws it out a lot more from the lora.I don't have the rin prompt setup directly at hand so instead using >>8315867 as an example;lowres for reference https://files.catbox.moe/z0louq.pngupscale with colorful added to prompt https://files.catbox.moe/uu098f.pngsame seed but without colorful added https://files.catbox.moe/uu098f.pngupscale with colorful but without any lora's https://files.catbox.moe/25b2a4.pngiirc chromatic aberration can also manifest it to a degree but also fuck some things up.
>>8315947oh whoops, copied the wrong link for the upscale without "colorful" added to prompt.here's the correct one https://files.catbox.moe/611t20.png
>>8315938>https://files.catbox.moe/yz2309.pngwho
>>8315970me
>>8315764Why be a retard on purpose? It's a grid of shitty simplistic anime 1girl pictures. The aim is to showcase differences between artists, not highlight some intricate details that can only be seen in the full resolution. Nobody is gonna zoom in on that shit anyway.
If I want to make a style lora of multiple artsists with similar styles for noob, how many images should I use?
>>83159764
I'm nervous, bros. Page 10 is here..
>>8315980this was your doing, bro
>>8315947that lineart hits a certain note with me desu. I might have to train a lora for it if I cannot find a good tag for it
>>8315980with 3 maxed out thread before this one? there is some time yet
>>8315980the troll is gonna start making a new thread soon, I'd be nervous too
>>8315981It was just a prank, bro.>>8315983I dunno, bro. That Ayakon edition is picking up traction.>>8315984Our 100 gens in this thread are on the line..
>>8315986Why is she melting?
>>8315988not enough cum
Thread almost dead. Migrate.>>8315678>>8315678>>8315678
>>8315992I'm getting my slopiest slop ready especially for your thread, just let me cook anon
>>8315992>does not even has the /hdg/ logo on the op
Move>>8227771>>8227771>>8227771
>>8315992I'm not using a shitpost thread.
>>8315992AYAKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>8315995put the groid to shame
>>8315992If there's no /hdg/ logo it's not a real thread and we're not using it, simple as
>>8315992>troll thread
>>8316018sexy
>>8315992ok
New Thread:>>8316025>>8316025>>8316025
>>8316026>troll thread
>>8316032without seething explain how its a troll thread
>>8316016without seething explain how its a troll thread
>>8316036no /hdg/ logo
>>8316034Not created by highlight anon.
>>8316040Even with the logo you would still seethe, who are you kidding?
>>8316043Yourself apparently, people have been particular about the hdg logo since time immemorial
>>8316043>>8315985shamefag
>>8316041With only 100+ images there can be no Highlights. That and the fact that this thread was sent so quickly into page 10 by the trolls is why the next thread is #643.1 instead #644.
>>8316048you are not iafag
>>8316048Oh, I see.I am so sorry you get so much hatred from 1 fucking troll for all your hard work.
>>8316050Is this "IAfag" in the thread with us right now? Is he touching (You)?
>>8316054Yeah... Yeah
>>8315985>>8316043>>8316047all me
>tfw troll thread use better gens than the real one
>>8316079it's Ayakon
>>8316079The power of Ayakon-sama
>>8316079>he thinks 1girl, skeleton, pov beats score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, rating_explicit, rating_questionable, highest quality, high quality, absurdres, highres, fine detail, extremely detailed, masterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic, source_anime, best quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, detailed background, <lora:Xilonen_Genshin_Impact-PONYXL:1.4>, Xilonen, Genshin Impact, xilonen_(genshin_impact), black choker, bracelets, choker, jewelry, nude, nude female, animal ears, cleavage tan, blonde hair, blue hair, breasts, female, green eyes, large breasts, medium hair, multicolored hair, navel, shiny skin, stomach, tail, tanned, tan skin, thighs, three-tone hair, vagina, looking at viewer, pov, 1girl, solo, jaguar ears, jaguar girl, jaguar tail, simple background, black background, shinythink again bub, a lot of effort goes into those prompts and then there's all the touchups and post fixes
>>8316100>no expressiveHweak troll ahh nigga
>>8316101back to the tik tok alphoomer
>>8316100>imagine liking aom slopbut seriously, I've trained loras on ai gens I thought were great, turned out not so greatyou can tell by the great hair the model is producing. not even mentioning the insane 20-pack abs of the guy. or the gravity defying boobas
why do we have only 3 threads?shouldn't there be at least 7 different hdg threads at one time?
why haven't you applied to janitorship yet?
>>8316131i'd do a great job as a janny, but part of the job is subjecting myself to discory tranny mods to which i categorically refuse
>>8316132you didn't pass esl test already
>>8316125GOD, I wish. Imagine the slop, bro.
>>8316126box?
>>8316137i'm white
>>8316098boxo?
>>8316125you know, the funny part is that if the faget bumping old threads would fuck off, we unironically probably would have 3+ threads(with two of them at image cap) not archived because this is a semi-fast thread on a slow fucking board.
>>8316125Let's make a thread for each poster
>>8315938based thank you
do you prune things like "navel" and "cleavage" in char loras? These things tell you nothing about the character itself they are just generic
>>8316161You keep generic tags, you prune tags that are permanent characteristics because you want them to be associated with your trigger word(a). Ie. Eye color, hair color, outfits, etc, get pruned. Everything else that would change image to image (like navel, cleavage) stays
>>8316166>word(s)
>>8316166>>8316161I don't prune any of those because it lets your char lora be more flexible. if you want the character with and without their hat, or if you want them to be partially nude, it is a lot harder if you have bound idk asukas bodysuit to "asuka"
>>8316161navel is a useful tag though? if the navel is covered by clothing, perspective, etc, you dont want it
>>8316173You aren't supposed to bind the body suit to Asuka, you're supposed to bind it to a trigger word specifically for the body suit. Each different outfit should get it's own word. That's the point.
anyone else been so stockholmed by the text posts that it's jarring now when people post images
https://huggingface.co/datasets/Laxhar/noob-wikiDanbooru artist: https://huggingface.co/datasets/Laxhar/noob-wiki/blob/main/danbooru_artist_webui.csvDanbooru character: https://huggingface.co/datasets/Laxhar/noob-wiki/blob/main/danbooru_character_webui.csve621 artist: https://huggingface.co/datasets/Laxhar/noob-wiki/blob/main/e621_artist_webui.csve621 character: https://huggingface.co/datasets/Laxhar/noob-wiki/blob/main/e621_character_webui.csv
>>831618780k banned artists dang
>>831619080k posts of banned artists, not 80k of banned artists.
>>8316191well yea but thats a lot
>>8316186I fucking hate genners. Self-conscious coomers looking for ass pats.
>>8316194this. total genner death. they contribute absolutely nothing to the thread.
>>8316190all of them are included actually kek
>>8316141https://files.catbox.moe/fwfhoh.png
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what the fuck are pages?
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How many pages can we reach
