HomuRun EditionPrevious Thread: >>8319052>LOCAL UIA1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webuiForge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForgeComfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI>LOCAL MODELSPony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESWiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templatesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-loraIOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/installUpscalers: https://openmodeldb.infoBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfIllustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuffUseful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
>>8321698Previous Thread Highlights:TH_24-11-17_-hdg-_a.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/8h3l7u.jpgTH_24-11-17_-hdg-_b.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/2twizz.jpg
God, Homura (akuma) is so hot..
>>8321700Rope
>>8321700kill yourself
>>8321700>made it inyou are no longer brown
>>8321700genuinely poor selections
>>8321700Where's the african male representation? We get plenty of gens per thread with snowbunnies yet you never feature them. What gives?
>>8321700>aom slop>lolis>pregnant sex>low-effort gens>ayakonI guess I'll just shitpost, maybe troll anon was right to complain about the highlightsat least there were some high-effort gens this time
>>8321700Love yourself chad
>>8321700>got innice
>>8321703pls do a creampie of that one
>>8321700>0(zero) cunnykill yourself
>>8321727why is it so... it... so....
>>8321730?? Too much tit meat?
>>8321730isn't this
>>8321721Isn't this inflation, technically?
>>8321730good?
>>8321740hairer
https://files.catbox.moe/vxme0v.png
What's the current fotm shitmix? I don't wanna be left behind using some old model. People will make fun of me.
>>8321742>>8321746good stuff
>>8321751rouwei
>>8321751rouwei>>8321753explain what's good about this slop 1girl sexing
>>8321756>nogen
>>8321756>>8321755Is that related to reweik?
>>8321758no. TIME TO RESEARCH!look up the following models.Illustrious V0.1NoobAI-XL
Does anyone have a cookie cutter .toml for Easy Training scripts? I updates my installation and now none of the ones I had work anymore.
>>8321761>spoonfeed me so i dont have to learn anythingrefer to previous threads
>>8321762Debugging python is as fun as debugging C++.
>>8321757you sound mad
anyone know some cool sketchy / high detail artists that aren't recognized by noob/illust? looking to train some loras
I tried some of those shitmixes and they all suck dick, I don't see how mixing a bunch of fried shit together is supposed to produce a better model.
>>8321756just some good juicy slop, can't eat at fancy restaurants all the time
>>8321765omao
>>8321769What's so funny?
>>8321756good morning bakariso sir
>>8321770You're a funny guy
>>8321772im not xim vro
>rouwei>shitmixi knew you guys were retarded, but this is too much
>>8321770(you)
>>8321776good morning minthy
>>8321776yeah, some shitmixes are actually good, unlike rouwei
>>8321750Exactly how I imagined, thanks king
>>8321777>4 fingersFix those hands bro.
>>8321780geg
>refuse to align your steps>your shit gets friedNyo...
>nyoposter is the aysposternoticing some things dont mind me
So I can't train on Illustrious v0.1 because it might as well be its own finetune when compared to Noob, So what the fuck do I even do? Just sit here with a thumb up my ass and wait until we get the god model that everyone will agree to train on? They already fucked up Noob by training the TE this late, ffs man get your shit together China or wherever Angel is from.
>>8321750Where do I acquire this isu lora, cunnysseur?
>>8321785i was the original nyoposter but now there's several of us and the latest isnt me
>>8321791>i was the original nyoposterProof?
>decide to finally align my steps>steps break my waifus body in half and dismembers her limbs
>>8321792Nyo proof :3
>>8321794Prove.
>>8321790https://civitai.com/models/955988/noob-artist-style-isu
>>8321779chadmix gods.. she means us.
>>8321797>t. chadmix baker
>>8321792To be fair, she's >>8321791 right. I have been nyo posting myself and even created syamefag.
>>8321797it's ntrmix
i introduced at least 5 shitpost memes to hdg including sepia
>>8321802i introduced angryposting
>>8321777>roof beams are curved>left wall is pillowed?>3 fingers>twisted body, terrible anatomy>nonsensical piping>perspective is all kinds of fucked>anachronistic broom from the 1600sthe finest pencil slop
Okay but have you aligned your steps?
>>8321802"Can you gen this beauty for the 291 images remaining?" unironically? That was me.
Jordach status?
Barely any artists on Noob look like the artist save for a few. The rest are only good for mixing, if you want an "accurate" recreation of an artist you still have to train a LoRA, and that's a good thing!
Why is "collarbone" a danbooru tag even? For genning it's useful in subtle ways but it's hard to imagine its usefulness for actual booru user
>>8321810astralite was right
>>8321810try reducing the weight to 0.45 to 0.65
>>8321811for cleavage cutout dresses, etc. i presume
>>8321789People have trained on Illustrious, but even they admit in their whitepaper v0.1 isn't the best and have some graphs where it loses to open baseline models and it took them two more iterations to get state of the art above the testing models for Waifu Diffusion V. And they aren't public yet or may never be public in a fast enough manner (i.e. see the shitshow that Waifu Diffusion did with slowwalking releases) before something else new catches the public's eye so don't get your hopes up.
>>8321815source on the graphs?
>>8321816Their whitepaper at https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.19946
>>8321789use novelai v3
back?
>>8321789What's wrong with training on illu?
> team of phds and masters> 6 moths of 1488 h100svs> 1 retarded ponyfagwho would win?
>>8321829No one
>>8321829jordach
>>8321831>a furfag with 2090I kneel
>>8321791even tho its not /h, box?
>>8321842dunno why you'd want thathttps://files.catbox.moe/bos9qe.png
Which Lora trainer do you suggest to start with kohya onetrainer or negror?
>>8321843>naktanta, but cute style, didn't know that artist
>>8321843its cute
https://files.catbox.moe/4p1nf9.png
>>8321852not clicking that
>pregnant kidswhy?
>>8321853not worth it, it isn't miquella
would you let a blue elf put things in your peehole?
>>8321858>>>/d/
>>8321858No, only Suzuka-sama can do that.
>>8321859this gay nigga things sounding is /d/ material lmao, bet you fuck with your clothes on too
>>8321852holy fucking BASED
bwos i need your most goodest most coomest artstyle mix
>>8321866mmm.... nyo
>>8321866Sharing your best artist mixes on this shithole is like choosing a Down syndrome tetraplegic as the inheritor of your family's secret katana technique that has been passed on for a hundred generations.
>>8321700Made it in 3 times, very nice
>>8321875it's not that deep eslbro
>>8321866opossumachine, wamudraws, asura (asurauser), pija (pianiishimo)
>>8321700>when you only make it in highlight b but not highlight aHow do I improve my gens and guarantee a spot in the Highlight A reel?
>>8321856For me? It's his mother Marika and her Shadow of the Erdtree unplundered anus.>>8321868Based gatekyeeping anyon
>>8321866Sure, here you go.(__ArtistList__, __ArtistList__, __ArtistList__:0.8), __GoodArtistList__, (__GreatArtistList__:1.2)
>>8321881nasty cunnyslop
>>8321885gaybox?
>>8321885based and very not gaygib artists
>>8321893nyo
>>8321892>>8321893But anons..>marika before travelling to lands between.png
>>8321897heterosexual womanbox?
>>8321866ciloranko, yd \(orange maru\), dikko, (incase, asanagi:0.643613)
>>8321888near instant projectionI super upset that 4chan did new anti botting measures and this thread is still shitposted so bad
>>8321897hebe marika and miquella are both based
>>8321902Those "anti bot" measures really only function to cut down thread creation spam on the faster boards. There wouldn't be any noticeable impact on boards like this.
>>8321892>>8321893>>8321899clearlymarikabox: https://files.catbox.moe/tjnev5.png
>>8321908>1girl in the promptit checks out boys, i confirmed it>penis not in the negativeswait a minute...hold up
does anyone use PerturbedAttentionGuidance?
anons, is cosine annealing better than constant with warmup? illustrious v2 is using it
>>8321825nice
>>8321910A-anon.. certainly you're not accusing me of cooking the prompt after the fact.. r-right?
>>8321908thanks>this mixthose are like three out of my personal nightmarescan't believe that it looks good
>>8321914ive got my heterosexual eye on you
>>8321916Pretty old NAI mix I had saved along with some other placebo artists. Pruned it down to those and found it gives some clean results, especially hands and feet.
>>8321920people meme on asurauser but i felt like they were always really helpful in giving cleaner results if you throw them in at a lower weight just because the thick outlines helps a bit i think with the AI actually getting the amount of digits right. same mentality as using nail polish in your prompt
>>8321916>those are like three out of my personal nightmares>can't believe that it looks goodthat's often the case with artist mixing on nai/illustrioussome aco/filth artists do have some good features about them and with right combo they might end up being a good addition
>>8321921he wouldn't be so bad in the mixes if not those overly curvy proportions he makes
>>8321921Exactly what I use it for, anon. Definitely helps with artists with a messier style. Keep it low enough that none of the common asurisms start to creep into your character.
>>8321885that's a dude.
>>8321921except there's multiple artists that can do similarly and doesn't look like /aco/ garbage.
>>8321929List them
>>8321930nyo
>>8321930easiest is nns \(sobchan\)works even on pony without a lora.
but i want pony with a lora
why is it so ugly?
>>8321941It's pony
>>8321939Can you gen this beauty for the 291 images remaining?
>>8321941it's NTRmix
Why is it called ntrmix
>>8321802I created the Ayakon persona, shilled 'art' here and subscribed to myself using dummy accounts to signal boost.I still post slop here to advertise and pretend like I'm ignorant of the mistakes because it pisses people off and drives free engagement.$50 a month for downloading FOTM Genshin/ZZZ/LoL LoRAs off Civitai and slopping out two dozen pony pics is as easy as it sounds.
>>8321955>I created the Ayakon persona, shilled 'art' here and subscribed to myself using dummy accounts to signal boost.Proof?
>>8321949There was a discordfag who hates that his gens never got popular but blacked/NTR gens did. He got banned from the discords for complaining about blacked patreon prompters constantly and eventually ended up here on /hdg/
>update reforge>now there's a gorillion more useless snake oil samplers and schedulers, on top of even more snake oil extensions>yet the only useful extension (raunet) was removedStop adding all this garbage and fix the annoying bug where memory sometimes does not get freed between generations so you have to interrupt and hit generate again. Or the issue where ControlNet breaks when you switch models during generation (refiner). Or the crash that happens when you set it to keep two models loaded and try to load a third one and it doesn't unload the first and OOMs (related to refiner).
>>8321930Trylsc
>>8321943https://files.catbox.moe/i2uop7.pngspam
>>8321960You will use ze DDM a CFG++ Pyramid Negative Dy SMEA sampler with ze Align your Laplace Inverse Sinucosinoidal Polyxponential scheduler and ze Skimmed Unet Latent Alignment Network extension and you will be happy.
>>8321960nobody cares about your raunet snake oil
>>8321960euler asteps alignednothing else needed
>>8321960Use forge, it just werks
>>8321955Good one but he'd have to keep up this persona for 2 fucking years.
>>8321963I'd be jealous too if no one asked my OC be genned that much, anyon.
>>8321866Pija, (asanagi:0.8), blushyspicy, cutesexyrobot, Gonzarez, xiujia yihuizi, (phantom ix row:0.9)
>>8321804It's dystopian noveau avant gart
>>8321976Nice, moar?
>>8321960Reforge guy is falling into the classic developer trap. It's more fun (and easy) to add new "features", you write a couple of lines and slam out some commits.Fixing bugs and weird edgecases? Ugh... that's gonna take an hour to just get started debugging...This is the KEY shittest that separates excellent developers from mediocre ones.
>>8321984still not going to use raunet
>>8321986Raunet was nice but illustrious / noob shit their pants with it for some reason
if you fap to your own gens you use raunet/kohyahrfixif youre an attention whore you use hiresfix
>>8321901holy shit!catbox?
>>8321991What if I just use adetailer no upscale for fapping
There's something wrong with the way voted noob is being trained. I still prefer outputs of Epsilon model. Angel showed some comparisons between newest noob and newest illustrious and it looks way better than noob.
I don't even finish my gens when fapping, just interrupt and start genning another one
>>8321994>Angel showed some comparisons between newest noob and newest illustrious and it looks way better than noob.That shit will never be released so who cares
>>8321986I don't even know what raunet is, I don't use a single snakeoil feature in reforge.Why use anything else when euler, 25 steps just works?
Can you point forge or reforge to a specific folder to look for models/loraas instead of having to put the safetensors in the premade folders? I wanna have both of them installed without having to copy paste the models, to save on space.
>>8321966>Uses ays>doesn't actually lower step count to benefit from the improved speedMany such cases
>>8322000>save on space.Imagine being so poor you can't buy an additional hard drive
>>8322002Terminal data hoarding means I'd just fill any new drive I get in a month max.
>>8321992https://files.catbox.moe/o5bn54.png
>>8322005thank you anon!
so is there an objective best scheduler?
>>8322007>objective anything with AIlol
>>8322007THE STEPS ARE ALIGNING AND YOU WILL BE TESTED ON YOUR FAITH
>>8322000symbolic link
>>8322000Probably, but I have a symlink to the same folder for both
>>8322013>>8322012Thanks.
Question for the lora gods, is BF16 worth it? It make my lora training take 10 time longer...I cant even do a full bake in one night
>>8322000Look up symlink, it breaks when you update but I think there's a work around for it though I think
>>8321997>Why should anyone care if we are training vpred correctly?
noob is incredibly underwhelming for a supposed '512x h100' dream model. even compared to the incredibly underbaked illust 0.1. they really should've just started from cosxl instead of trying this shitty conversion crap. oh well, here's to another year of sdxl!
>>8322017no, it's a minor improvement if you happen to have the spare vram
>>8322024Thanks, I have 24go so it shouldnt be a problem but actually I saw my batch size was at 8 so maybe thats why it was taking so long
What should I try to get my LoRA to get small details? I specifically have a badge I'd like to get at least passably correct.
>>8322022cosxl would have been the same shit
>>8322026at 24gb vram unless you are using gradient checkpointing (don't) on SDXL models you should probably do batch size of 1
>>8322031Alright thats much faster indeed thanks, im up to 3500 steps so maybe i'll tone something down
>>8322028Lower your LR
are you guys prompting the approved way?https://civitai.com/articles/8962
>>8322000no symlink needed, just add --ckpt-dir to COMMANDLINE_ARGS in webui-user.bat
>>8322039>Download ComfyUI>aaaaand tab closed
>>8322039>shills nai and smea That is honestly the snake oil for nai3 and nobody has figured it out somehow
>>8322039>NOOBAI XL is an excellent anime image generation model. I believe it is not inferior to Animagine XL, pony, and other old SDXL models. It can output a large number of accurate characters without relying on any other models, and also supports style adjustments through artist tags. I am very happy that the open-source community has added a powerful model, but I have also noticed that in the closed-source commercial field, there is a model called NAI3, which is also an anime image generation model. Despite having a large lora pony, Animagine XL, or the newly released NOOBAI XL, it seems to be lagging behind. I don't know what technology NAI uses, but the most likely clue seems to be novel's SMEA sampler, which can greatly enhance the detail and lighting intensity of the image and make the image look more "Anime". I look forward to the community having a substitute or even better technology in the near future. Of course, in the end, I would like to thank Laxhar Dream Lab for adding new momentum to the community, and also thank the community groups that have helped NOOBAI XL.>Finally, I would like to put a Linglan image generated by NAI3, which uses the SMEA sampler. Unfortunately, I still cannot generate a similar image in the local model.It's over, kurumuz won
>>8322042holy shitwas noobai nai's project all along? lax did say that he was affiliated with them at some pointsome nai gens on his pixiv tooe621... vpred... nl captions... shit starts making sense now
i have to wonder why nearly every single civit illustrious lora for characters are ones already perfectly recognized by the current models and mixes
>>8322043>and make the image look more "Anime"this technology is called the anime dataset
>>8321965Raunet is actually useful for i2i upscaling.
>>8322043Did the retard never actually read the nai3 paper?
>>8322005Anymore like this? I love this position and “imminent sex” scenario
>>8322043>>8322047>use fart on prey dataset instead of pure anime>bro it must be SMEA or some alien technology that makes NAI look more anime!is this satire?
>>8322043well, you heard it from the man himselfblurry SMEAr sampler wins
>>8322043LMAO. Those people can't even train a proper vpred model and then wonder why they can't achieve NAI looks while noob looks worse than newer illustrious. models.
>>8322043local will literally never catch up to NAI will it...god damnit
no... my local groids...
Just a reminder that the whole noob project started with compute bait and Euge asking what WD tagger to use
>>8322043noobsisters, not like this...
>>8322046Unironically pony-brain. I haven't found a character yet that isn't in the dataset that obviously isn't post compute like some new gacha character. I can get the female white blood cell from that stupid cells anime among other literal whose with like 60 images.
>>8322053they were honestly quite close with 0.5 eps.well until they went full retard and threw shit at the fan instead of continuing with the existing training approach
just deleted noob off my harddrive, what credit card companies does Novel AI allow? can i pay in crypto?
https://civitai.com/models/959736/rillusm-realistic-illustrious?modelVersionId=1074511
>>8322061yes, check dms :)
>>8322059>I haven't found a character yet that isn't in the datasetimagine being this much of a casual
>>8321727Fernbox?
>>8322046Just because model knows the character, doesn't mean it got the details right, or the artist tags makes them worse. From my experience adding few artist tags can completely destroy the outfits of characters.
>>8322063how do i access those here?
>>8322059there are some characters that frustratingly have no data in current models despite an abundance of imageslike karma from league of legends, only one off the top of my head but still
>>8322067just b urself ;)
Claudefag status?
>>8322051i wonder if lack of the SMEA sampler is causing this https://civitai.com/images/39318805literally cover gen of the v-pred 0.5, with proportions fucked as fuck, which is the constant problem on any noob version, worse than underbaked illu 0.1
>>8322071yes, the failure is due to lack of SMEgmA sampler
>>8322072but noob destroys nai when it comes to smegma?
>>8322044kino
>>8322072>SMEgmAWe've got a ton of this already thoughever
>>8322073>>8322076proof?
>>8322071another proof that they have a massive lack of aesthetic bone in their body
>>8322059>>8322046>perfectlythey simply aren't if you care about outfit accuracy at all and it isn't something like 2B with a billion images.
>>8322064Tbf i never bothered to stress test much since I just gen the same handful of girls. Ran the ballpark of what I did on pony ti noob at least and everything just works while pony obviously missing random characters even if they had like 9k entries. Fuck that stupid bitch and his aesthetic pruning
>>8322068>>8322066league characters are a good example because all of the skins and variants are thrown under the same tag. Ahri has like 20 different looks that is thrown under Ahri, and stuff like "star guardian Ahri" is not always tagged
>>8322068Sometimes the auto tagger doesn't work right for those and if you adjust how the prompt is it'll work or include an underscore connecting the anime name even if the thing doesn't need it. I noticed some quirks like that
local euler suckssimple as
>>8322079>cufflink is slightly off True I guess.
>>8322079yeah I had the same experience, sometimes the outfit would comes out good but it wasnt consistent and most of the time random shit were added or removedalso I dont mind lora as much because illus handle lora way better than pony
>>8322082Prompt outfit details and it helps guide it, but that's more a fault of damboorus shit tagging. I can check 30 pictures of a character like Meijiro Ardan and the fucjing tags will tell me she has white hair, light-blue hair or grey hair.
>>8322043told you fuckers >>8298491SMEA is unironically NAI's greatest asset which is precisely why it was not mentioned at all in any of their writeups, same with vibe transfer which absolutely destroys the relic that is IPadapter. local will continue coping like usual
>>8322082must be model to modeli actually have ahri, spirit blossom ahri, SG ahri and kda ahri in my character wildcard and they all work perfectly without any additional tag propping
>>8322091but nai3 is still miles ahead of local even if you don't touch SMEA at all?
>>8322091v4 status?
i just SMEAred all over my screen...
>>8322091smea looks like washed out garbage with 3/4 of artist mixest. actual nai user
>>8321727Which artist(s) is this?
>>8322038Lower than 0.0003? Also, anything for Prodigy? I've been testing with both Prodigy and Adamw, and so far the results are different, but I can't really tell which is better or worse.
>>8322028train on a model with a 16ch vae
>>8322092this might just be you having low standards... We can do a comparison.Make a 3x3 of KDA ahris 768x1280s of a pose you choose and give your prompt, then i'll do it with a lora on pony
>>8322101don't, i don't want to look at pony gens
>>8322039>1 girl,(klee \(genshin_impact\):1.2 ),blonde hair,(alternate costume:1.2),(foreshortening ),smug,mesugaki,hand to own mouth,half-closed eyes ,[[artist:wlop]],[ningen_mame],[ciloranko],[sho \(sho_lwlw\)],[[tianliang_duohe_fangdongye, as109]],(azuuru,torino aqua,(fuzichoco,nobaba:1.17),ask \(askzy\):1.15),dynamic angle,depth of field,high contrast,colorful,detailed light,light leaks,beautiful detailed glow,best shadow,shiny skin,cinematic lighting,ray tracing,female focus,+++,open mouth,1girl,bare legs,black ribbon,blonde hair,blue skirt,blush,braid,fang,feet out of frame,hair ribbon,jacket,long hair,looking at viewer,multicolored clothes,multicolored jacket,pleated skirt,ribbon,shirt,simple background,skin fang,skirt,smile,solo,twin braids,white background,yellow eyes,yellow shirt,(((masterpiece,best quality,newest,absurdres,highres)))>lowres,bad anatomy,blurry,(worst quality:1.8),low quality,hands bad,(normal quality:1.3),bad hands,mutated hands and fingers,extra legs,extra arms,duplicate,cropped,jpeg,artifacts,long body,multiple breasts,mutated,disfigured,bad proportions,bad feet,ugly,text font ui,missing limb,monochrome,face bad,Rate this prompt
>>8322103>1 girlit's already over
>>8322103for me it's face bad
>>8322099Yeah, you can also try cosine/CAWR schedulers
>>8322092show me kda ahri with this seed 123456
>>8322103it fucking suckswhere's (cleft of venus, innie pussy:1.6)?
>>8322103>1 girl>face badamazing
>>8322091ngl your example isn't really selling me on SMEA kek. Washed out af
>>8322106Alright, thanks. I'll give it a shot overnight with cosine and 2 instead of 3.
>>8322109you don't want face good, retard?
>>8322005box?
>>8322112Yes sar, me want detailed light,light leaks,beautiful detailed glow,best shadow,shiny skin,cinematic lighting,ray tracing
what is nylia
>>8322115i thought you were more of a lowres, {bad}, error, fewer, extra, missing, worst quality, jpeg artifacts, bad quality, watermark, unfinished, displeasing, chromatic aberration, signature, extra digits, artistic error, username, scan, [abstract], {{{monochrome, greyscale}}}, fat, pregnant, {{{sketch, lowres, bad}}}, text, error, missing, extra, fewer, cropped, jpeg artifacts, {{{worst quality, bad quality}}}, watermark, displeasing, unfinished, chromatic aberration, scan, scan artifacts, nsfw, sepia, @_@, {{cg, 3d, }} kind of guy
>>8322117expressiveH but for illustrious
>>8322117snakeoil
>>8322092>>8322101go on illustrious shills or did you try it and it looked terrible
why did lax suddenly become doomer over SMEA? i mean sure it's definitely a unique sampler that mogs local, but it's not like the rest of noob is an aesthetic masterpiece of the best quality. their vpred implementation is completely fucking fried, their eps model went off the rails too. there are issues beyond sekret teknologee that are still not figured out. why are they throwing NLP into the model randomly?why are they removing artist tags?why did they include furshit?why did they save vpred until the last minute when it was the highlight of the NAI paper?if their goal was to be NAI, why did they do all this shit that strayed off course?
>>8322125box........?
>>8322124turns out that nai's strongest sekrit sauce was having an actually competent team and not shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly with unforced errors
>>8322043is this a fucking joke lmaowe have implementations of smea on local which work pretty much as expected, but it's not really great. even NAI has said it's kinda pointless for them because it's for generating at high base res. it's like LAX really didn't read the NAI paper at all, their secret sauce is just having a shitload of compute and doing lots of aesthetic tuning rounds
>>8322043Why does everyone just ignore the most important line of the NAI paper?>We also used a staged approach, with later stages consisting of more curated, higher quality dataWhy does every local baker ignore the dataset? Of course your model looks shit when you throw everything at it equally. Not every image is equal and does not deserve to be treated as such. Once again local dies with the dataset
>>8322124trust the plan 5000 more stepstheir secret weapon webp artifacts will demolish the evil satan that is naiv3
>>8322129100%it's absolutely ridiculous that fucking astralite is the only local baker who spends more than 5 minutes thinking about his dataset
yawnyou retards are so boringsame old shit every single time
>>8322128>we have implementations of smea on local which work pretty much as expectedtranslation:>local's implementation works like a shitty cheap chinese copy of saasso yes, exactly as i'd expect from local
>>8322129>NAI and Illustrious both outline in papers what local bakers should be doing>Nah. I'm just going to do my own thingEvery fucking time. If you are provided with a recipe that you know works then use the damn recipe and start experimenting after you successfully make the dish once.
>>8322128>their secret sauce is just having a shitload of compute LAX had as much compute as nai3 used. i wonder when local will ever get a chance like that again
>>8322134vpred channel on suicide watch
It's nyover...
Noob openpose when?
This was unironically local's last hopes for a good model
>>83221360.6 vpred model didn't seem too bad.. what's wrong with it?
>>8322139This, all models will be deleted from your hard drives tomorrow morning
>>8322142you're the one who doesn't actually gen if you seriously believe that
>>8322140perhaps thats because euge went with no loss scalinginstead of the many suggestions of the vpred channel, that of course exclude the usage of minsnr 7 mentioned in the nai paper
>racist slurkys iaschizo
>>8322144something something glass houses rocks bad
>noob vpred still broken>eps 1.0 just as bad>illust will never be released in any form>boorus getting worse with more deleted art and untagged ai junk>datasets are getting worse, using compressed poorly rescaled images>lora tech is 2 years old with all the same issues>clip/t5 5+ years old with ever more of the same issues>nai over a year without updates, struggling to bake their own arch>local stuck cope-patching sdxl>flux remains a bloated underperforming museum piece>sd 3.5 finetuning even worse>saas like dall-e and midjourney also over a year old>voice synth never progressed beyond feb 2023 elevenlabs >llms getting more sterile and less interesting>local music completely dead>everyone rushing to video to try and milk the few pennies left >consumer GPU vram still behind 4+ year old enterprise, intentionallyyeah i'm thinking it's just over for ai in general. 2025 is going to be absolutely bleak
is it too late to learn how to draw? pencils are still being made, right?
>racial """"slur""""
>>8322145ooops not minsnr 7, just minsnr but didnt mention a specific value
>>8322145>perhaps thats because euge went with no loss scalingWhat does this mean in practice? I spent several hours testing it earlier and it did colors and fingers correctly with very high success rate.
>>8322151>pencils are still being made, right?No, it's time to practice lucid dreaming I'm afraid
>>8322149This just reads like "the world isn't cyberpunk 2099 yet so everything is bleak" kek
>>8322149Don't forget>models now requiring 24GB VRAM>models will soon require more next year
Just commission artfags. Are you poor or something?
>>8322149thinking the drought will only last a year is still being optimistic
pony v7 will mog nai v4hell, it already does!
>>8322114https://files.catbox.moe/q4y3h5.png
>>8322149i can already make pics i like very much so its perfectanything to improve it from now is a bonus :)
>>8322149the other categories idkbut the upgrade path for image gen is pretty obvious and itll be a pretty decent jump16ch vae, llm encoder, slightly more params, and maybe DiTit only takes 1 team with a big bag that isnt completely and utterly retardedmaybe corpos will be less scared of image regulations now after the election
>>8322168>it only takes 1 team with a big bag that isnt completely and utterly retardedasking for the moon here anon
shut the fuck up
nyo
>>8322170Nyo
Reminder that the ponyfucker is also afraid of 16ch vae
pony fucker is a fraudhis opinion is irrelevant
>>8322174her*
>>8322175ximeirs*
>>8322124It's not very hard to figure out>start off with promise of "infinite" compute>with so much compute we can test everything!!>randomly test x and y>weeks pass>"We are going to take back the compute now sir">fuck.jpg>panic and try to push whatever test model you're training now as the "final one"
do I gen creative stuff or degen stuff tonight?
Why are people ignoring the fact that Angel had the same problem with vpred training like current noob, fixed it, shared it and how to fix it to lax and Euge and they proceed to ignore it based on 0.6v having the exact same problems that are getting worse
>>8322181everyone knows lax is retarded
>>8322180What kind of degen stuff?
>>8322187farting_on_prey
>>8322168we are in a computency crisis. those with compute are incompetent, and those without it think they'd be competent with it. the foundational local models (SD 1.5, SDXL, Flux) were all trained by the same team of people since day 1 and other models (chinkshit like hunyuan/kolors/pixart) are straight up bad. there aren't really a ton of teams out there doing stuff.noob team struggled enough implementing vpred, and to this day they're still yapping about how to fix it in euge's channel. >it only takes 1 team with a big bag that isnt completely and utterly retardedis a bigger ask than you might think. the amount of things that have to line up is quite high. the local image generation community isn't that big, and it's the same names that keep popping up again and again. the most realistic path forward really is for lax to restructure his team and stop making such bad decisions. if he wants local NAI then he needs to copy NAI, not implement experimental slop every epoch
>>8322124TE will align tomorrow
>>8322180Both
>>8322181despite the fact that we have LLMs with the ability to perfectly translate nuance and slang LAX seems to insist on using the worst MTL known to man which greatly affects his ability to absorb info from the non-chinese audience
>>8322187real monsterous monster girl hard femdom
>>8322201Yes. Then post it here.
>>8322043Potential improvements that I can think of:>aesthetic subset training for final epoch >>8322129>Tag-Based Loss Weighting (4.3)>finetuning the VAE (4.4)>fixing the bucketing code to remove annoying grey bars at the sides >>8321703>a few epochs of natural language training with datasets like https://huggingface.co/datasets/KBlueLeaf/danbooru2023-florence2-caption and https://huggingface.co/datasets/CaptionEmporium/furry-e621-safe-llama3.2-11b>>8322168VAE swap is a big enough change that you might as well make a new base model.
>>8322134While cooking food and following a recipe these neanderthals substitute mustard for caramel and whine why the food doesn't taste good and you expect them to use common sense with anything any more complicated?
>>8322181>Why are people ignoring the fact that Angel had the same problem with vpred training like current noob, fixed it, shared it and how to fix it to lax and Euge and they proceed to ignore it based on 0.6v having the exact same problems that are getting worsewhat do you mean by ignoring it? what do you want anyone here to do about it lmaomaybe you should contact EPIC if you think you can contribute your wisdom to LAX through him
>>8322204where is the vae-decoder-finetuner-anon when we need it the most, it could be an straight upgrade and you don't actually need to retrain sdxl from scratch
I have not used SD in more than a year, what's the best current uncensored base model? what new big things had happened?
>>8322223the absolute best scenario you could possibly expect from it would be like a 1% improvement
Why even saction nvidia gpus when this is the power of the chinese phd?
>>8322231still better than needing a whole fucking cluster to retrain a model
>>8322098(mignon:0.15), (puuzaki_puuna:0.15), (nekoshoko:0.15), (enosan:0.15), (yd_orange_maru:0.15), (belko:0.15), (michiking:0.15), (gachou:0.15), (satou_daiji:0.15), (pononozo:0.15), (marushin \(denwa0214\):0.15), (ikuchan kaoru:0.15),>>8322065https://files.catbox.moe/kn6gr0.png
uhhhhh guys? something looks... off...
>>8322240She's missing pubic stubble.
>>8322240>gay pride bikiniyou bet your ass something looks off
>>8322240she's so hot
>>8322248no
>>8322248surethese threads end up with 10x the amount of text posts as images anyway
>>8322248why wouldn't it? post it
>>8322248What's the point if you didn't make it
>>8322248Yeah sure
>>8322248>8chthat's a child
>>8322240noob vpred has a tendency to fry things red. just something i've been nooticing
>>8322257Bro?
>>8322248you mean that blurry arona shit?
So I fell in love with this girl posted in one of the previous threads...This finally is making me take the plunge and try to learn diffusion...So I downloaded yesterday the webUI, download the 3rd most popular Pony Model, learnt what things do like prompts/img2img and those sliders that control tag reinforcement and keeping the image close to the source image but...How do I make the image it generates look actually good like some of the stuff you guys are making? It just kinda looks like the image I provided here but slightly worse with virtually no differences despite changing prompts and giving it more control to modify the base picture.I basically just want to create 1000 variations of this girl and picture in the same quality rather than create something new. What's the best way I can do that? What model would you recommend?
>>8322265>What model would you recommend?The MiqoMixavailable on Civitai
>>8322260NTA but that one I think is a vpred thing, even NAI randomly gives wonky skin colors and what not
>>8322270with NAI it happens to me like once every 500 gens or sowith noob vpred it's more like every 20
>>8322272use apg. it's not snakeoil, I swear to god. flip it on, set guidance scale to 6-8, and it won't happen unless you prompt red skin.
>>8322273hmmmmm nyo :3
>>8322267Thank you, I'll try tonight.I've been generating more of the girl as shown through websites and it's going well but I'm capped daily and limited by them. I just want more of this girl with small variations of what she's doing.
>>8322272I think it depends on artist or something. I haven't experienced that at all, been using the vpred noob for a while
>>8322277Don't listen to that anon. MiqoMix was made when pony was the best thing we had. I suggest https://civitai.com/models/833294?modelVersionId=968495
>>8322275buh-buh-buh-buh-BASED
good morning sirs post more sexy children
Please no sir, think of the advertisers!
>>8322279i second this
txt2vid and img2vid is already shockingly good for its second (notable) public appearance, when are we getting an anime/hentai finetune?
>>8322283>>8322284
>>8322291>3 toesat least check your slop before posting
any recommendation for my next waifu cover/wallpaper?
it is the END OF THE ROAD for localkeks! you retards are FINISHED! apologize, now.
>>8322297Nyo :3
>>8322291Fishine is based
>>8322279>>8322285Thank you both, I'll try that then if you think this model will go best with my waifu.
The personal mix that one of the anons here recommended is kind of nice so I guess I'll test it some more.https://files.catbox.moe/t21n7g.jpg>>8322260It's not really a fair comparison since you need to raise the CFG apparently but for the most part I'll just stick to 0.5 Noob and the personal mix.
>>8322043>ablublublu it's not 1:1 to NAI and we don't have [feature] that NAI has (we actually do) it's so over>local can't even do this 1girl, lying on side gen!lmao the chinks sound just as bad as this thread with nogen whining. "why should I bother if it's not perfect!!!". like just fucking proompt dude whocars.
>>8322308why is it so retarded?
>>8322308why is it so fried?
>>8322308Why is it so fried?
>>8322314child pornography is against the law
I guess the thread is full of edge lords today
>>8322308>noob bakers are retarded and illustrious looks like thisgod damn it has never been so over
can someone give me a detailed guide to training a lora on noob 1.0 pred?
>>8322282I recognize those nipples...
>>8322322you'll get the guide when 1.0 is out
>>8322322train it on NAI instead, noob is garbage
>>8322328give me an h100 plz
>>8322328i would kill everybody in this thread for the chance to bake a single lora on nai3
>>8322318nyo
>>8322334why is it so garbage?
>>8322336it's not NAI
>>8322334it should be blurry, not fried
>why is it so [incoherent sobbing]sorry, can you speak up? maybe attach a gen to your post?
>>8322126It's a shitty fried lorahttps://files.catbox.moe/choai6.png
How did you get the picture of me?
>>8322341don't poke the trolls
>>8322334based
>>8322341i run out of anals so can't create good gens to attach
>>8322308Yeah, that was such a weird addendum, Not sure what was the point of it and there is so much better NAI gens but he picked one where the hand is coming out of her armpits kek
>>8322294Their rabbit girls bwo
What set it off this time?
>>8322351Someone posted an AI generated image. He really hates those.
>>8322358Holy based
>>8322349based....>>8322334>>8322325>>8322308
>>8322359that's an old hag
>>8322358Make the dude pissing into her mouth, sir.
>>8322363what gave it away?
>>8322362retarded nyoposter
i don't know if this appeals to anyone but me but found more images to make my elma lora actually kind of servicable thanks to the X port announcement (her fanart pool is bleak)https://files.catbox.moe/labk49.safetensorsuses her danbooru tag
Mature women status?
>>8322325I like how soft it look, could I get a box?
>>8322370its pony
>>8322371masaka
>>8322369unwanted
>>8322372it does look like pony
So why exactly did minthy lie about "needing" to use "by artist" for rouwei?Haven't been following the thread for a bit, so might have been discussed already>inb4 cilantro etcI chose easily recognizable styles to see if there is any significant difference.
>>8322379all local trainers are compulsive liars just look at jordach and euge/lax
>>8322074Thanks
>>8322379Same reason Noob recommends using artist: but it doesn't do anything.
>>8322379what lie? he did train with that token, but that doesn't mean you will get mustard gas if you don't use it
>>8322307Whats your prompt for the third row?My only complains about personalMix is that it turns yellow a lot with most artist i tried
>>8322381>>8322044what artists did you use
>>8322384are you guys illiterate?
>>8322385dunno "mandatory" seems kinda absolute to me
>>8322390why wouldn't he recommend prompting with the same format that the model was trained on? is this your first model?
>>8322388It's a lora actually, AI trained off AIhttps://civitai.com/models/943607/748cm-or-style-for-illustriousnoobai-075
>>8322394slop trained off slop
>>8322393you're hopefully trolling, but in case you're not: mandatory does not mean it's recommended. Mandatory is absolute. I don't really mind it, cause I actually think it works better without which is good, cause "by" is retarded. I'm just actually puzzled why he wouldn't just say it's recommended but chose this specific phrasing.
>>8322398are you autistic or have you never encountered esl english before?
>>8322401Yes? Have you? Do you think ESL learn "mandatory" before "recommended"?>t. esl
>>8322401The difference between "mandatory" and "recommended" is not some linguistic quirk peculiar to the English language that an ESL could miss out on.
>>8321581https://files.catbox.moe/tzsjl2.png
>>8322404sexxxxxxxxxxx
>>8322403you're autistic, got it
>>8322406Just go fix the description already, minthy.
>>8322125where are her ears?
>>8322406kek
>>8322408why is it so (ai-generated:1.3)?
>>8321881>opossumachine, wamudraws, asura (asurauser), pija (pianiishimo)wtf>>8322386You mean third column? Column is vertical, row is horizontal. If you mean the fried vpred, it's probably because I added 'orange theme' in the prompt.https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/orange_theme?z=2
>>8322413It's nyalia
outfit consistency noob vs pony with loraIf someone wants to do a better noob one go ahead because I just ripped a random civitai gen and replaced with ahri description. I don't think it will change how much worse the outfit is by changing the style though(masterpiece, best quality), amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, highres solo, 1girl, looking at viewer, animal ears, blonde hair, fox ears, long hair, breasts, facial mark, jewelry, whisker markings, thighhighs, yellow eyes, tail, choker, large breasts, cleavage, fox tail, bracelet, bare shoulders, earrings, black thighhighs, makeup, multiple tails, idol, nail polish, fox girl, lips, leotard, official alternate costume, (high heels, black footwear:1.5), heart choker, black choker, swept bangs, covered navel, heart earrings, crystal, crystal tail, (latex, shiny latex, shiny clothes:0.8), nail gloss, painted nails, pink fingernails, ahri \(league of legends\), k/da \(league of legends\), k/da ahri, (wlop:0.4)
it's ayakon
Ayakon lora when
>>8322419yeah no shit it is better, the left is close enough for most sloppers who don't want to train lora though
>>8322419who will win? a lora trained specifically on a character or a model that has that character in 0.02% of its dataset? imo noob comes pretty close without a lora
>>8322423>>8322419Now, add like 2-3 artist tags to noob and watch outfit get even worse
>>8322414Yeah column indeed, I really like her body shape
>>8322419>Minor mistakes, but nothing that can't easily be fixed with gacha or a bit of inpainting>vs>3 different poses in totalYup, I'm noticing
>>8322423>>8322425of course this would be obvious but anons above are unironically arguing >i actually have ahri, spirit blossom ahri, SG ahri and kda ahri in my character wildcard and they all work perfectly without any additional tag propping>>8322092
ponyGODs BTFOing slopsissies again
>>8322428there is no pose specified , having your model randomly pose your character without asking it to isn't a positive
>>8322431ok astralite. Looking forward to v7
>>8322419Amazing test! Could you please do one with noob on 15 cfg and after it outputs garbage just claim that the model is shit, fried and unusable?
alright i'm convinced, I am giving up on all illustrious slopmixes, pony just works.Both will be btfo by the next gen of models anyway
>>8322433no need to get so mad bwo
>>8322431>>8322419Is this >>8321955 your post?
>>8322431>your model not being absolutely fried is actually a bad thing
>>8322433I gave you the prompt, that was at 5 CFG. make a 3x3 grid that matches anyway you want with noob and prove it's amazing
What sampling steps do you guys use?
>>8322434>Both will be btfo by the next gen of models anywaySuch as...um...eh...
>>8322439>>8322419what is the purpose of this testwhy are you comparing model performance of noob with lora vs pony with a lora of some obscure outfit of forgotten irrelevant boomer characterno shit lora would be better for obscure shit like thisyou can train a lora for noob too you fucking cretin
>>8322441trust the plan, someone no one has ever heard of is just going to drop a better model from schizomixing in his basement
>>8322440i make sure to align mine
>>8322442>you don't need loras for noob!>actually you can fix the model with lorasuhh so what was the point again in using it over pony
>>8322445ah yes you are rightback to pony i guess
>>8322445Train a lora on noob and pony with the same dataset and compare. If one is better, you have your answer. Having done a lot of loras for noob and illust in general already I think you won't like the answer you get though
>>8322448skill issue
>guys why is the /aco/ model (with a lora) better at /aco/ shit than the anime model (without a lora)?
>>8322368people have ported her xb2 model to kk and mmd i think, a limited amount of fan art shouldn't be an issue. i was thinking about doing a lora for her using some
>>8322449Ah, yes of course. Pony being worse at being trained and needing every lora to be fried to actually work consistently while it "just works" on noob with the same parameters is a skill issue on my part.
>>8322444Don't know what that is but I'll read into it, thanks.Started yesterday.
>>8322451How do you train a cahr lora on 3D images without it looking like 3D slop? Regularization images?
>>8322452all this pony "shilling" is 99% just trollingthere is no way in hell ayakon is actually this fucking retarded, he's just mentally ill and is getting kicks of this high-effort larp and butthurt that it produces
>>8322380>>8322384>>8322103They are fucking retards.LAX for example writes to use "artist:" prefix, then posts this prompt as an example:>... [[artist:wlop]],[ningen_mame],[ciloranko],[sho \(sho_lwlw\)] ...its like he has no idea how tokenizing works
>>8322455>there is no way in hell ayakon is actually this fucking retardedanon...
>>8322456So I guess you have a better idea than him?
>>8322368t bh I want this art style more than the girl
>>8322458nta, but I unironically think some anons here do. That's not saying much though
>>8322451hmm, some of my dataset is already 3D but i'll check it out
>>8322369reasonably basedI would post some too but I'm stuck genning weird styles
>>8322454Reg images are a meme, I don't remember a single person using them successfully in the past year. Just tag your dataset with 3D, if that's not enough train a lora on that specific style and merge it into the base model while you train.
>>8322458kek
>>8322459https://files.catbox.moe/4bo7cb.pngcareful, it's slop
>>8322466lax was paid off by kurumuz
>>8322454it dependson pony you could train a style lora for whatever 3d sources you're training with and that was enough to mostly negate the 3d style. with illustrious that mostly works but you need to put your 3d tokens in the negative prompt as well for best effect and that seems like it can still cause some issues. reg images also don't really work but DOP does and i've been using it. same concept thoughhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/pull/1710picrel was trained using only koikatsu screenshots and as long as i put 3d in the negs or artist tokens in the positive prompt there's pretty much no sign of the 3d style.worth noting that "<style> 3d" seems to work better than just <style> on illustrious and maybe noob. so koikatsu isn't good as an activation token but koikatsu 3d works fine. not really sure why.>>8322461you can have a lot of 3d in the dataset before it starts being an issue.
I am a bit confused. Is it better to use A1111, Forge, reForged...?
>>8322473ComfyUI
>>8322466OH NYO NYO NYO
>>8322467>24 styles in one mixJust train a lora on your gens at that point.
>>8322473A11 is way outdated, Forge doesn't have v-pred support which may become relevant soon. It's really just reForge and Comfy now.
>>8322448i have done this and the results are consistently better on ponyi'm 100% serious
>>8322478>Forge doesn't have v-pred support???
>>8322478>Forge doesn't have v-pred supportFake and lies
>>8321866https://docs.qq.com/sheet/DZWZMemxNZkpVR0VB?tab=BB08J2>>8322039>>8322043keep in mind LAX didn't write this article and it's by some other guy on QQ, it's mentioned right there at the beginning of the article. but yeah it is stupid LAX even posted it to civitai under his name to begin with
>>8322478>Forge doesn't have v-pred supportRetard.
>>8322481>>8322483>>8322485>nogenall me
>>8322487Here's your gen, bwo
>civitai is downIT'S' OVER FOR REAL THIS TIME
>>8322491is it going green forever?
>>8322488finally some good fucking gens for once
>>8322491hope that they removed nsfw as foretold, it would be a whole new age of shitposting
>>8322491>just stocked up on a bunch of loras this morningholy shit, that was a close one
according to the Chinese, prompting this image on local without smea samplers should be impossible
>no one actually posted a better noob ahri genis ayakon actually right
>>8322473A1111, Invoke, and ComfyUI are the only "true" options you have now really, since Forge and reForge are both ComfyUI backend and both have now taken the route of them becoming the developer's playground unfortunately.
>>8322497Why is it fried
>>8322487My bad!
>>8322480well, color me surprised then, cause for me it's always the other way around
>>8322500in what fucking world are you living in where that is considered fried
>>8322498>no one actually prompted a Western character in this hentai generalGee anon, what a mystery. It's almost like there's a reason why league of legends gens are all on /aco/ and /trash/
>>8322501box???
>nsfw ai banned from civitai>tensor art bans nsfw>novelai gets cancelled and banned>nsfw ai forbidden on pixiv>nsfw ai forbidden on 4chan>nsfw ai gets forbidden to use in US and EU>you can gen if you got some shit downloaded before but that's itWhat now?
>>8322503Where do you think you are?
>>8322501I'm pretty sure this is /d/
>>8322500it's anime
>>8322478Forge runs vpred models just fine.A1111 seems to have problems though. I did a pull of the latest dev and all i got were black screens when genning on vpred models .
>>8322497the chinese are in love with smea for the look it produces, not prompt adherence. they could give less of a shit about the latter because they can't into english. just look at the spreadsheet in >>8322484 where they provide a whole separate column for artist mixes with smea enabled.
>>8322507>you can gen if you got some shit downloaded before but that's itThis
>>8322509Eh. Not sure enough to report it, just enough to complain.
>>8322512why don't they just prompt blurrier artists and depth of field etc
>>8322501I never understood why people find erotic a potentially deadly condition. Prolapse can get so bad that it causes internal bleeding that cannot be stopped.
>>8322512Kek yeah I went through that thinking I would get some good mixes out of it but it's like the same variation of 3 blurry styles over and over
>>8322517shut the fuck up
>>8322497I mean, I agree that the article is retarded, but this example is pretty bad. civitai is down now but I'm pretty sure he mentioned the lighting and shading or something like that, which your picture kinda lacks. posting the foxgirl and saying "look we can do the same" is kind of an oversimplification of what he was trying to say. you could do this gen on pony too.
>>8322517Hentai warps your mind.
>>8322517Next you are going to tell me that a stomach bulge when getting penetrated might indicate internal bleeding and cervix rupturing.
>>8322517I find prolapse gross but you sound as annoying as the Xitter feminists complaining about cervical penetration in art because it's painful in real life. Who the fuck cares?
>>8322511Used to work fine on A11 a year ago, did they break it more recently?>>8322507>>8322513Our pony lora rentry still works. Could use/start any other site to share them. Only issue is they're often large files, especially with meme tech like dora, glora, dims over 32, etc.
>>8322517Stupid retard.
>>8322523I care.
>>8322526ywnbaw
smea mixes look good. non-smea looks fried. smea would be perfect if you could dial back the effect it produces. 50% of its current effect would be mint
What's a gross fetish you have that you wish you were allowed to post on /h/?
>>8322520Whatever he was trying to show in that article ending was lost with that example, the face was good but the rest of that image was a clusterfuck
>>8322529Yuri
>>8322529handholding
>>8322529Penis sizes below the average
https://strawpoll.com/3RnYXYOWDye
>>8322484>tfw one of my naislop mixes got thereBros... I made it...>>8322528>smea would be perfect if you could dial back the effect it produces. 50% of its current effect would be mintyou can kinda "dial back" its effect by doing an img2img pass
>>8322528If you're talking about local smea you can just edit the sampler code, it's not too difficult.
>>8322529Bestiality fellatio
>>8322529rating:questionable
>>8322529pantyshot
I haven't done any of this for awhile, is there an updated lora easy training scripts? Koyha_ss is too confusing
>>8322535Pony is way better because it's not loaded with pedophilic tranime garbage.
>>8322515the problem is smea acts as a one-click button that to them magically makes /any/ shit they prompt have that desired look. it's perfect for them due to the language barrier and why for us it's close to worthless.
>>8322529I need a good narrative to actually get off. So posting 95% plot and 5% sex is not /h/ allowed.
>>8322542>pedophilic tranime garbagelol what is diaperfur/cub
>>8322529bestiality, stomach bulge, cumflation, monster girls,...Not necessarily gross, just a lot of stuff feels like it doesn't belong on /d/ anymore unless there's a futa with balls involved.
>>8322544that's both hilarious and sad. I wonder if there's issues with noob we don't even know about yet like very awa.
>>8322548why isnt there a /d/ specific futa thread? youd think the split wouldve happened already with how it overtakes literally everything in that fucking threadas a comparison /trash/ has like 6 different blacked threads
>>8322535Why not both? I prefer having illustrious as a specialized anime base, and keep pony for the rest.
>>8322537there is no local SMEA. no, chinkware doesn't count
>>8322552>pony for the restthe rest of what exactly? all of the good Western artists are on danbooru and noob past 1.0 is unironically the best local model for furry/monster stuff.
>>8322511Which v-pred models? It's not going to work unless it's designated in the file as being v-pred, which only LAX is doing properly to my knowledge.
>>8322552what rest?
>>8322554I still use Pony for some random 3D slop (not 3dpd) because Illustrious isn't all that great at it
>>8322537what >>8322553 said, even the author of "local smea" admits it falls flat compared to NAI and isn't the same thing
>>8322556Ponies
there is no "NAI SMEA" either btw, toggling it on just switches the model to NAIv3.5
>>8322561based schizo
>>8322554photorealism, 2.5D, /aco/ charactersalso ponyshit I guess>all of the good Western artists are on danbooruYeah but what about the less good ones? Pony has more unpruned /aco/ artists than illu has total.
*sigh* im just going to say it... you might hate me for this but.... here goes:neggles would've done a better job with noob's compute
>>8322566incorrect solely because neggles refused to offload the dataset handling to someone else so they could train on loli
>>8321911I do for the Hi Rez step, helps with fine detail>>8322566Neggles had the right ideas but questionable executionsAll sorts of jank model config choices
*baits you*
*bites you*
>>8322558Same. I have a mix of three crappy pony loras and I don't feel like retraining them, they'd probably mix different anyway.
>>8322566So would have my fictional uncle
Why does Lax seething so much over SMEAr, his model not that bad, just fix vpred and it'll mog nai fair and square?
>>8322570
alright i'll try and be as fair as I canPony- Better for 2.5D and anything western aco style- More lora and slopmix support due to higher user count, civitai has 100 different mixes for you- artists, characters and other things are pruned, many can be recovered with lora- the model maker is a retard and fried the clip understanding, destroying a lot of base SDXL which is why backgrounds are shitIllustrious - Newer dataset, has more characters- No pruning, artists and touhous can be prompted without a lora- bad at backgrounds also but no one is sure why- heavily superior out the box - probably not worth switching over to if you already have pony workflows and loras trained that you have spent a lot of time on- new model in 2 weeks that makes it 100 times better for sure this timeIs this fair?
>>8322580Not blurry enough, needs to be blurrier!!
>>8322580it's not LAX saying it, it's some retard from his qq circles.
>>8322570>>8322581hot
>>8322582Go be objective somewhere else faget
>>8322582you can just prompt 3d on illus and get decent 2.5
>>8322529Guro/Ryona, above_view, missionary while they spend their last breath looking_at_viewer with a bloody face is the besthttps://files.catbox.moe/pjx1um.jpg
>>8322590Seek mental help, seriously.
>>8322590Seek jesus
>>8322592>>8322593you need to be 18 or older to use 4chan nonnies
>>8322594Refer>>8322593>>8322592
>>8322582Pony is a dead horse. Just let it go.
>>8322590just drug them before you punch them so they end up liking it. I like harapan, amputee but i don't like it when they suffer
>>8322597I thought it was a small horse
>>8321791I'm bothered by but not surprised that the original nyo poster would be a teto poster
>>8322603That's a pretty nice and coherent kitchen.
>>8322607it's pony
are your steps aligned for what is coming?
>>8322608It's a kitchen, anon.
>>8322613Neigh sir, I don't think it is.
>pick a random gacha slut from my gacha shit>1girl, tan, gyaru, school uniformYep, it's genning time
>>8322615playboy bunny, latex, leotard, animal ears, rabbit ears, fake animal ears, pantyhose, detached collar, wrist cuffs, black leotard, bow, latex leotard, bare shoulders, gloves, rabbit tail, latex leotard, black latex, strapless, high heels
>>8322615good taste for once
>>8322619it's actually fucking over for us
>>8322619CATBOX PLEASE
>>8322616I'm more of a sweater dress, thighhighs, choker, black nails guy
da fuck
>>8322625first time?
Please remove my eyesI need some EyeBleach
Do not train your loras in base illu 0.1 if you're using a shitmixI repeatdo not train your loras in base illu 0.1 if you're using a shitmixThat is all
STOP using shitmixes.
>>8322631Sorry, I prompt more than 1girl, standing. I NEED shitmixes.
>>8322630yeah on what do I train it then
>>8322637...
>>8322632Realistic 3d anything is disgusting, 2d waifus is the only right way
>>8322632you wouldn't post this shit on /jp/ either
>it is now impossible to generate an image with a cool palette on noob vpred 0.6>discord retards will still defend the e621 dataset and vpred
I'm really liking that saibaman artist an anon mentioned last thread. Thanks. https://files.catbox.moe/jpaog2.png
>>8322648Skill issue
>>8322649holy fuck that is a 10/10 tummy
>>8322638What? Do I need to train on the shitmix itself? This has never been the case so dont act like its obvious
>>8322642
>>8322654because it's a finetune, not just a mix
what if the steps are aligning you?
>>8322660It would be extremely painful
>>8322649No metadata?
>>8322654. . .
>>8322664nta but it's sabamen
forge has 4 different ways to align your steps... what if I choose the wrong one
>>8322676You'll make a fool of yourself in front of Rinoa and all the other sneeds
>>8322679really fucking nice, just a shame the top of her hair merge so much with the night
My mom said if I don't align my steps she won't give me m
>>8322676Utilizing the Sampler DPM++ 2S Ancestral CFG++ with the React Cosinusoidal DynSF Scheduler with Perturbed-Attention Guidance with Kohya HRFix Integrated on the possible resolutions of 1536x2048 or 2048x1536 with 4 Adetailer models is the right choice
>>8322680The real annoying part was the condom belt tag fusing with the tucked money tag. That was the first one in like 20 gens where the top of the condoms weren't just money like pic related.
>>8322656stop it. get some help.
>>8322570>>8322581Gomen mari...
>>8322656>mattress on the floorhave some standards for god's sake
Just fry my shit up senpai
>>8322700I ain't clicking this shit nigga
>>8322700WTF HOW DO I CLEAR MY HISTORY
>>8322664>>8322652Here you go anon, thanks for the (you)s. https://files.catbox.moe/vphlik.png
https://files.catbox.moe/6yvvxi.pngi'm basically writing damn fanfiction here
>>8322466I swear to god man we'll never have something that just fucking works
>>8322581bitch
>>8322709homosexual opinion
>>8322707very punchable tummy!
>>8322709>not picking both and railing cat while you eat bat cunnyNGMI
>>8322708Elma is great, but for me, Celica is exquisitehttps://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/3997753
>>8322709for me it's Tsukihi
since sabamen was brought up recently, what are some other artists that fit into that slender bodytype/good anatomy category? I can think of henreader, healthyman, and ponsuke. any others?
>>8322722what's fucked up is that celica's fanart pool is probably more viable for making a lora than elma because so much of elma's art is either very poorly made or a very static pose at the same 2 angles
>>8322679it's weird how something like this is great in hentai/fantasy, but in real life i think most people would find it disgusting having some chick showing or offering herself to you, after you know she's fucked at least two dudes that night (aside from being 3dpd). same with condoms as a whole, some people think they're erotic in hentai but then most men would agree that they're fucking awful compared to bareback in reality. sorry for shower thoughts, not really that deep but just interesting to think aboutthis and your other gens are nice, keep it up anyon
>>8322725very hot grease covered pony gen sar please make her piss and poo too
>>8322731The more niche the character, the more time one has to spend downloading images from Pixiv that are not on danbooru
>>8322708always respecting effort being put into obscure charactershow'd you recreate the text boxes goddamn flawlessly though?
>>8321885why does she want you to wear a condom. does she have aids?
>>8322730t. who left the stub about sabamen yesterday besides very mainstream shit like as109, idkwas asking this question here tooi will spend couple next days going thru all the artists on danbooru +100 pics and will make spreadsheet or somethingand, sabamen is actually very good at making hebes, by thinning down too curvy proportions of different artists
>>8322733That's the magic of hentai. I wouldn't want to watch a fat old man have sex with a cute girl in real life either, but it gets me going when it's drawn.
>>8322753yeah but the pic implies she wants anal lol
https://litter.catbox.moe/sj3pj4.png
>>8322748https://files.catbox.moe/jc7l4k.pngautism primarily
>>8322752'She' suffers IBS. Doesn't want to shit on your dick or get upset guts when you splatter the baby batter.
>>8322755I look forward to your research, I need to start compiling some "artist by genre" lists too. In the mean time I will continue searching and playing with what I'm familiar with.
>>8322760My man's using clip studioFancy
>>8322759basdo
>>8322730rustle
>>8322683>1536x2048 or 2048x1536Easy way to get deformed pictures with 2-3 navels
Did anyone ever make something like that "kitchen theme" extension function that lets you easily re-order and edit prompt tokens but not part of a whole UI and also not quite as shitty?If not I might try and figure something out later maybe after I finish other projects.
>>8322707this artist mix is the shitthanks cunnykinghttps://files.catbox.moe/25c8xs.png
>>8322768He's probably just memeing but you can try smea-dyn + raunet. I did manage to gen at 1600 base res like that, could probably go higher.
>>8322778thanks for the advice, chief
I feel like every mix I tried or artist I used give me narrow eyes instead of rounder eyes if that make senses, am I doing something wrong or is illus biased toward that?
>>8322785It's made by the Chinese. For them, that's how normal people look like.
>>8322770Glad you like it, anon. Even though I just simply added the artist to an old mix. Really good gen you did there, also watch out the sakura anon will get mad at you for that pic, though it's very obvious he actually wants to see more
>>8322354box please?
>try to go back to eps 0.5>colors don't popFUCK
>>8322759what's with the dithering?
>>8322797A method to create the illusion of color shading/blending through varied spacing of different-colored pixels from a limited palette.Common in animated GIFs and other 8-bit color formats, especially when representing true-color 24-bit photographic images.Also called bitmapping.
>>8321811>Why is "collarbone" a danbooru tag even? For genning it's useful in subtle ways but it's hard to imagine its usefulness for actual booru useri like skin, the way it drapes over muscle, pulled taught and loose in different places, how it houses hair, how it changes, i like the muscle underneath, their insertions, the legs, the thighs, the hips, the ass, the tummy, the ribs, the pits, the biceps, the pectorals, the tits, the neck, the jaw, the skull, the way bone manipulates muscle, the human skeleton and its parts, the blood that runs inside and the blood that spurts outside. i like the entire human body, including the collarbones.
>>8322797I reduced color depth to 8bit 4fun.
>>8322427Oh if you want the body shape it's '[plump:toned:0.3] female' though it varies depending on the artist. Haven't really tested it but that's what I settled on since I want the plump body shape but a more firm stomach.
>>8322789he's in luck thenhttps://catbox.moe/c/vs33zy#
>>8322570box it
>>8321698Isn't it time to remove the NAI ad from the OP?
>>8322808why do you say that
>>8322810it's CF
>>8322810Because it's 1-year-old and it doesn't deserve ad space in the OP?
>>8322770Fuck off, pick another character for this
Blacked Nobara ntr
>>8322810weekly fillyfucker visit
>>8322808True, I haven't seen a single nai post since Noob dropped
>>8322818bored because you keep getting instabanned on /aids/?
>>8322819I'm in your walls
>>8322820HES IN THE WALLS....
>>8321698You can also remove the /vg/aids/ link from the OP, that thread is dead.
>>8322819did someone actually apply for a janny there?
>>8322823indeed
>>8322816how is it NTR if she has no canon romance
If by "dead" you mean no shitposting, then yes. This thread only looks "alive" because it's 90% worthless shitposts
>>8322814hmm.... nyooo?https://files.catbox.moe/gflr22.png
>>8322826cucks have such low self esteem that they self insert in the cuck chair because they cant even fathom having skin contact with a woman
>>8322358*cough* sir.. p-please.. a shade.. darker? o-onegai, senpai. Ooo..negai!
>>8322825https://files.catbox.moe/ayyr9h.pngthat style mix is pretty far off on vpred so I'm experimenting with my own, remembered collagen is also a good artist for this kind of stuff
>>8322825how do you get a slightly see-through dress... its too lewd
>>8322358saved, very nice
>>8322816regular
>>8322804Thats a good idea, mind sharing the artist used? its really nice
>>8322756This nigga straight up going in all my JAV porn.
>>8322752How else would you knock up not Miquella, anyon?
>>8322841cosplay jav doesnt count, its basically hentai
>>8322859just threw up a little
>>8322828It's dead dead.
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>8322859>>8322862samefag status?
oh no i opened it
>>8322511vpred works on A1111 but some options had to be disabled I think, and model needs to have the state dict keys of vpred-ztsnr to workhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/issues/16650
if the steps are aligned what use is there left for you
should I align my steps, gits it, 11 steppers or 32 stips?
Some urban youths laughed at me when I missed my bus and had to race it to the next stop. I guess my steps weren't aligned while I was running.
>>8322857they both seem cute
>>8322880>urban youths*cough* s-sir.. o-onegai.. just a tad more.. melanin.. *cough*
>>8322885kek
Grids without the prompt are so useless why do people keep doing this
>>8322887my prompt is state secret
>>8322887they just exist so that i can say local is dead or based or something
>>8322887>1girl, standing,There. You know about 95% of the prompt, anon. Only the real ones add more than one character and sexoooooooooooooo to see how the model performs under actual stress.
What are you doing step-aligner?
>>8322890kys spic
uh oh latinx meltie
>>8322890I mean sometimes it's pretty obvious an artist was prompted but they will refuse to say what artist so I can't actually tell what is the more correct output.People will post a grid expecting you to just automatically think the glossy, smooth lined examples are better while neglecting to mention the artist is supposed to be sketchy with rough colors.
i fucked up the dataset settings on the catgirl oyakodon lora...
>>8322896I'm with you, anon. To build on what I said, that's why I hate basic grids because it's not a good representation of what the model can do if your prompt goes beyond 75 tokens or some shit. I like to test the shitmixes for fun and the 1girl'ing examples look fine but once you add another character or have the character not standing upright, it falls apart. Not to mention the artist style fidelity which you already covered.
ntrmix, chadmix, miqomix sisters.. OUR RESPONSE? https://civitai.com/models/959490/holy-mix-illustriousxl-vibrant-anime-checkpoint?modelVersionId=1074235
>>8322903why does it just look like...well...you know...
>>8322876you need me for putting your favorite anime girls into sexy perilous situations where they endure many G-forces :)))speaking of, I managed to make a lora on vpred noob that gens centrifuges (just the things that go spinny spin where a pilot/astronaut is inside them suffering). have to say dataset was difficult to procure and don't get me started on training a concept that not even base sdxl knows - yikes.Examples:https://files.catbox.moe/mg3bnx.pngThough it does real bad at generating people beside them:https://files.catbox.moe/h8avs8.pngbut that wasn't really the point to begin with, can always inpaint them in later, or make a future lora where they are included in the pictures.anyhow, does any anonnie have one request for someone to put into the fuge and experience many G's :)))? can only do one tonight unfortunately, so first come first serve.
>>8322905it's holy
confess your darkest sins, /h/
>>8322907gen your waifu walking up to the centrifuge like they're going to space. 3 hours.
>>8322909i gen an ungodly amount of blacked hentai but id never post it here
>>8322351gooood morning sar, box please?
>>8322911*cough cough*
>>8322910>3 hours.3 hours of inpainting? anon i have work to do in the morning :c could you just hand me waifu of yours that I can gen quick?plus i don't even know my favorite girl/waifu!but still I like the scenario. was thinking of a similar one where said waifu/girl walks out of the centrifuge cockpit with wobbly legs and unzips their bodysuit where they it's revealed they are completely dripping with sweat/steaming due to exhaustion/intensity during the ride :)))...WTF am I am doing with my life?
ngl getting real tired of shit shitmixes
>>8322909I aligned your steps
I can't stop cooming to sakura
>>8322918You could just not use them
>>8322922I use shitmixes tho
>>8322921For me? Miquella catboxes.
I've done nothing but generate porn 16 hours a day for the past week
>>8322929maybe you could post some of itkeep the thread going
>>8322929What are you, some sort of stinking genner? Don't listen to >>8322933 and support the texter movement, anyon.
>>8322933I don't know how to get crisp, clean upscales like you guys do
>>8322956stop using pony
>>832290990% of my output folder is miku portrait shots
>>8322966based
>>8321847Easy trainer (has kohya backend)
>>8322040Oh, I didn't know about that argument. Thanks a lot. Saves me the effort of setting up a symlink.
>>8322362box? cute teto
>>8322909I fap to my gens
>>8322956Literally looks fine though?
I got consistent vacations for posting homerun not even a couple months ago wtf happened?Still, based
marsey the cat
>>8322994big fan of her 4 fingers. is there lore behind that?
>>8321825>>8321833Kayocute box?Nice eyes
>>8322994basid
>>8322994Actually didn't realize it was ayakon at first glance
>>8322996her other hand only has 1 finger!!!!
>>8322996Based lore enjoyer anyon.
what best sampler + scheduler + cfg for vpred 0.6
>>8323009It's euler beta/sgm uniformat sub 4.5 cfg
>>8323011do you use anything like APG or rescale or is it snakeoil
mirko
>>8323014Oh yeah, cfg rescale is legit on vpreg
>>8323018just default 0.7 im assuming
>>8323016no lore needed for hands when the hands are hidden, ill close the book on this one.
>>8323016I like this bunny
>>8323019.7 works fine, I've played around as low as .5 without any issues though
>>8322903the colors really pop
>>8322903>WAIalready garbage from the start
>>8323025wai was one of the best pony shitmix
>>8323016bosed
>>8322871Didn't notice that, thanks. There was a bug in safetensors (actually torch but a workaround was added) and it just needs a version bump. Will be fixed by this PR. https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/16667
>>8323030It's made by Chinese so it's instantly bad
>>8323030I don't remember anyone using it
>>8323046moustache eyelashes
>>8323047M*qo and it's consequences has been a disaster to the hdg thread
>>8323048Put a paperbag on it
>>8323048Dont know what you really mean by that but ok.
>>8323046box?
>>8323055You were ok for a few days with some prettier mixes and then you regressed hard again with this abomination.
can you explain miqoanon and cathagfaggot to me?you have generative ai that's capable of creating absolutely anything in any styleyet they just gen one single character and/or in same """art"""style for months on end.
>>8323061vanilaslop
>>8323061no i don't want to talk about wannabe ecelebs
>>8323058https://files.catbox.moe/8be6hm.png>>8323059I think the style is unique and makes cool stuff, so I enjoy using it.
>>8323046>>8323055biased
>>8323046>>8323055Hottest gens itt BY FAR
>>8322994>>8323016Decent pictures in the thread finally.
>>8323084pony could never
>>8323095Now that I look though I see that the campfire is lit within the tent, but oh well.
Anywhere I can download up to date tag autocomplete for noob?
why is noob so bad at doing small details holy shitis it because of the webp dataset?
>>8323107it's because of no SMEA(euler a is shit and blurry)
>>8323107that and 4ch vae
>>8323107use kohya deep shrink
>>8323107it's 4ch vaeeven nai isn't really immune to this which is why slighty blurry/fuzzy/painterly styles are so popular
>>8323114how do u use it. i tried it and i think im retarded
>>8323111>>8323112>>8323120wtf does that means pony was always better at small details?
>>8323123of course, you could always see bumps on 'ces piles
>>8323082Biased towards what?
>>8322997https://files.catbox.moe/8x8z3z.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/c2jxba.png
>>8323121sorry bro not on pc rn to check for settings
>open box>nyalia>close box
>>8323128kayosexo
>>8323131give me one good reason nyalia is bad
any tips for genning a girl squeezing her own breasts, as if milking it, from the very base of it (milk not coming out tho)
About Nyalia, I was experimenting with it once and noticed that it often liked to give you gens where the hair is backlit with subsurface scattering, like when sunlight is on the leaf of a plant and you view it from the back side, it has a pretty aesthetic glow to it. Does anyone know if there's a way to prompt specifically for this effect (on hair, but also separately on objects)? The backlighting tag works sometimes, but it's not always reliable, and art style tags often override the ability to get subsurface scattering on the hair.
>>8323112>>8323120i asked cuz i was trying to replicate an artist mix i found for nai but on latest vpred noob, when i tried the artist mix no matter what i did the gen came out so fucking bad compared to nai, it even looked really bad specially when you zoom in, nai in comparison didnt looked bad but instead looked kinda sharp, and no the artist mix on nai wasnt using smea or dyn, just euler a and karras
>>8323140different model produce different resultshocking I know
>>8323140what mix
>>8323140>>8323141forgot to add but i really cant get why is it like this, i mean, isnt both nai and noob sdxl models that uses the same dogshit 4ch vae? why are the results so different on each model? >different model produce different resulti refuse to believe this is simply the reason why, it just sounds so retarded
>>8323150noob is simply a much worse model than nai3, it is what it is
>load in nyalia, expressiveH, All Disney Princess XL LoRA Model from Ralph Breaks the Internet>lotion bottle 3/4th full>fresh box of napkinsIt's gooning time, bros
>>8323157based
Do you guys actually use someone else artist mix? I usually take one or two artists from it but never the whole thing
>>8323161what the fuck are you talking aboutwho the fuck cares
>>8323150what make you think the vae is what will decide how a model will understand an artist?
>>8323161I exclusively use other's mixes to prompt a 1girl, then inpaint myself as an ugly bastard (1:1) with my mix as a way to NTR them.
>>8323157Catbox your best one.
The artist:name change in vpred 0.6 imo is pretty decent. No longer getting bananas in my banana oekaki gens, if only they had this foresight back when they started training though
>>8323164if i gouge your eyes will you be able tell shadman and butcha-u apart?
>>8323167Why is it so sepia?
>>8323166I also nyever provide catbox to NTR your requests. Nyeh~
>>8323167slowly morphing into pony
>>8323169https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8352463idk you tell me
>>8323173it's e621
>>8323168retarded answer as expected
>>8323169it's pija
>>8323167you could do this even before, CLIP is pretty dumb but it's not that dumb
>>8323179nah it really is that dumb
>>8323179You mean by using artist: as a prefix? Thought they only started training this in recently
>>8323181whats the tag for areola like that?
>>8323181yeah. I'm not even sure where you're reading they started doing that, because I was using that strategy to fix "muk (monsieur)" even before v-pred
>>8323184oh, I just checked the civitai article, I see now. sounds like it's been that way since the beginning though, nothing new
>>8323184you're placeboing yourself
>>8323183https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/glands_of_montgomery?z=2
>>8323187try to generate with that artist and not create slime monsters
>>8323189already do
>>8323184Yeah nvm had to check the images on the civit page again, I see they've also been using "by artist" too which is odd. >>8323183By using every breast tag under the moon: large areolae, large breasts, veiny breasts, puffy nipples, huge nipples, [glands of montgomery:0.4]Also the recent artist's works (banana oekaki, 2023) helps a lot
>>8323150They have different datasets, they have different configs, they have different tagging etc etc. If you are eventually expecting noob to poof become NAI one day, even if they fix all the training stuff, it won't, just not how this stuff works.
>>8323192Wait mb that was the gen before the one you replied to, the artist here is takenoko_no_you
>>8323181box please?
>>8323196https://files.catbox.moe/mbjwqu.png
>>8323197based thank you
>>8322590blood on face = guro these days?
Why does AI suck at m-da_s-tarou and nyamota so much
>>8323204it's vpred
>>8323202>these daysOnly if you're a vanillasissy, like the first two faggots that replied to him.
>>8323207Was a bit disappointed since I figured it would be at least throat cutting/torso stabbing with the guro mention.
Remember these two sluts?
>think I found a super secret fluke shitmix>fucking insane prompt adherence>let's try another artist mix>oddly similar to the first artist mix>ok.. let's try another one>oddly similar to the first artist mix>try one artist with a distinct style>oddly similar..Very cool.
>>8323210Yeah, I tried generating Cinnamon and Shigure as well but they're just not promptable, I suppose
>>8323204Nyamota aside, m-da_s-tarou seems ok if you ignore thevantablack gloves.
>>8323202it's not really a matter of being guro or not.blood anywhere other than from implied hymen tearing is considered hardcore.(bruising/cuts/whatever is considered fine! as long as there isn't any actual blood and there's no depiction of physical violence!)
>>8323216I don't care if that's considered "hardcore" around here. It's dumb to say the catbox had "guro" when it was only softcore ryona.
>thread is almost day old>113 imagesits over
what if i think 0.6 vpred is not that bad
>>8323228We're used to shitposting in these parts, anyon.
>>8323228Yeah I am enjoying the heck out of it
>>8321698Previous Thread HighlightsTH_24-11-14_-hdg-_a.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/fa990t.jpgTH_24-11-14_-hdg-_b.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/kys123.jpgTH_24-11-14_-hdg-_c.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/d1ek3k.jpg
>>8323225thanks for the sauce
>>8323241Why is it so lateWhy is it so ass
>>8323241based based
>>8322806https://files.catbox.moe/xgerts.png
>>8323245It's the thought that counts
>>8323249box
https://files.catbox.moe/eh8met.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ccwcvz.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/lodww7.png
>>8323241404 not found
>>8322983https://files.catbox.moe/kj6hm0.png
guys I'm finetuning a new model on ayakon's gens since they are literally the best. where can I find more of his gens? I only have the ones on 4chan
>>8323272subscribe to his patreon
>>8323272No need to, he's built inHis tag is AI-Generated:1.2Just select some character with hundreds of images and you're setAnd don't forget to include absolutely 0 expression tags
>>8323224I won't post any of my gens until the trolling and baiting stops
>>8323275jealous peasant
>>8323274I spent all my money on a 4090, but I can spare some for his work of art>>8323275a fine tune for ai-generated:1.2 will work much better though. can't be relying on a tag when a lora is much better
>>8323275kek.
>>8323272can anybody share a toml they have? mine works decent, but who knows what I'm missing
>>8323276so never?
>>8323285artist?
>>8323289gachou
>>8323285Is she a sleepwalker?
>>8323291thanks, very nice
>>8322913https://files.catbox.moe/6ot75q.png>>8322790https://files.catbox.moe/3l08il.png
>>8322394these look great
>>8323296NTA I am seeing noise schedule as set to default. Should we not set it to ztsnr for the vpred versions?
>>8323301I'm on forge, ZTSNR probably doesn't show up in the metadata since it's set automatically on loading the model.
>>8323272Can you make a multi-character LoRA in Ayakon style for Pony? It needs Ahri from LoL (When are they going to add her to Arcane?), Dehya from Genshit and Burnice from ZZZ (God I can't wait to login and do my dailies today!!!). There's a few others but I can just pick those up off Civitai. Thanks!
So, consistently posting good gens and having a successful patreon is all it takes to become hdg's boogeyman?
>>8323317this place is choke full of petty, jealous, tasteless, talentless faggots, but what else is new?
lol, lmao
>>8323311sorry but pony is outdated. I'm only training on noob right now. your request has been noted
>>8323204I don't think it's AI in general, I think it might be because he's been drawing for like 20 years and completely changed his style more than once, but the old images are still there and tagged the same. Nyamota was pretty accurate on pony just overtained. Looked much better with 0.8-0.9 strength, or near the end of the prompt. So perhaps it only used the newer images.
>>8323311I can't tell where the joke starts so just fyi Ahri and Dehya work on base pony
>>8323282Just sit back and wait until the trolls are bored out of their mind, they will leave when they stop getting (you)'s
>>8323326>ponyfound it for you
>>8323326They both work? Gee I'd have never guessed!
>>8323327I used a genner like you, but then I got no (You)s
>>8323317For me it's when people ignore glaring issues because the overall look is nice. Having a patreon gives you a different mindset I suppose, I feel like we used to post with more humility. Thinking your gen is shit by default unless you put effort in with inpainting too, not just the composition and style.Though these days we don't get enough gens to afford complaining, so I try to let him be.
>>8323330No one cared who I was until I started to shitpost.
>>8323333I am once again asking for (You)s
>>8323329I mean he mentioned a zzz girl as well but she's too new to be in
>check back in on /hdg/ after an hour>1 image with some bait biters in the fraysee you later
>>8323347you should've seen when the edge lords were here. dark times. dark times.
>>8323347the image was also more a test than a real gen
>>8323347Sorry, I only gen cunny
>>8323351iIulu is a cunny
Can we be perfectly honest for one second? If not for us texters, this thread wouldn't exist. We do all the heavy lifting and dirty work meanwhile genners come in here fishing for (You)'s with their fried asf 1girl standings.
>>8323354What about bakers?
>>8323354truer words have never been spoken
>>8323354>heavy liftingpoint out 20 examples in this very thread
>>8323357post a gen
>>8323358your concession: accepted
>>8323359your gen: missing
>>8323360check the highlights ;)
>>8323362all me
>>8323363im detecting a hint of anger stemming from this post, care to explain?
>>8323364you get that from 2 words? you must be nostradamus
wow you guys are so funny
>you're le mad!Concession accepted
dunno man, I was just shitposting. I wasn't even the anon who said that about heavy lifting lol
I'm at a loss here: who is winning the argument?
>>8323370It's not a competition, we're all in this together
>>8323354this post: basaded
>>8323370we're just kicking rocks until something happens
meI have won(I wasn't participating - which is how and why I have won)
>>8323376you just participated btw
>>8323376Don't lie to me, all the 50 posts above were you
>>8323374what do you need to happen, retards?this is a gen thread and you have all the tools available to you>nogeni gen cunny, it's not for your faggot eyes
>>8323379you're just spouting common nogen excuses doebeit.
>>8323379suuuuuure
>>8323379>this is a gen threadahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
tfw actual gen thread: >>8315678
I wish Janny-sama would save me
I want to transfer my 3D mix to illustrious to use its character knowledge. Does anyone have experience genning images to train a style, not characters? I've done it with a character before, where you just need 1girl standing in different angles and styles. But here I'm not sure about the kinds of images to include. Even just the choice of simple background vs detailed will give the style a bias, same for lighting, colors, angles, clothes,...
>>8323383I suppose having three threads going at once is part of the issue. It's been like this for weeks now, how did we even get here.
>>8323389spitebakers joined our threads
The only spitebaker here is iafaggot thoughbeit
all the text posts make the thread feel alive at leastgo look at edg if you wanna see how thread with just gens looks likeboring and soulless
Was about to ask why the other thread is in page 1 and this thread is page 5 despite having more everything
>>8323390>XENOSANON USE SPOILERS!!1![spoiler]good gen otherwise[/spoiler]
>more everything
>>8323398we do have more of everything tho
>we
(you)
>>8323387I now remember I wanted to bake her swimsuit pretender lora
>>8322265lol that's my image. I guess you could use the catbox as an idea.https://files.catbox.moe/781ufp.pngModel for that image was illustriousXLPersonalMerge_v30 which can be found on CivitAIBasically most people are using the Noob model and it's variants now, Pony not so much.
>>8322265Also I use forge instead of Webui in case that makes a difference
>>8322265>>8323405>"fell" for the generic slop mixture of all 1girl features personalmerge shits out by defaultlmao what a sad cuck
>>8323410acting like a retarded faggot is a second nature to you, i'll give you that
>>8323410liking something = cuck, ok
>>8323410I wouldn't go that far at all, but I will say it feels kinda gay since someone else made the image.
>>8323412>>8323414>noooo how dare you speak ill of my precious slop waifuSAD!
>>8323416i think personalslopmix is pretty good
>>8323416Based nyo poster
1.8 weighting?
>>8323419>>8323416sametroon status?
>>8323417it is the best epsilon shitmix in my opinion toobut v-pred colors are too juicy and it gets a lot of artists so much better like imazawa here
>>8323424why is it so fried?
>>8323426I'm not sure it is, overblown contrast is probably just part of the style here
>>8323424yea true vpred colors are pretty nice, i dont like how it gens namako_daibakuhatsu though. maybe i just suck and not using the right settings
>>8323420>1 girlIt was over before it even began
>>8323403Good luck anon
>>8323434I'm gonna need a box, king
>>8323434>Satori in school uniformI know what I'm genning today
>>8323435box?
>>8323438https://files.catbox.moe/dfbm5d.png
https://files.catbox.moe/cojw55.pngsomeone's gotta clean that up...
>>8323440Lovely work on this paizuri piece.>>8323435That creampie came out so good, and the high heels on this one is great.>>8323434I love the boob squish on this one. Is this a 2hu girl?>>8323425very nice great work sirs
>>8323457shut the hell up
>>8323457>Is this a 2hu girl?based clueless but cheerful anon
...positivity in our shitposting cesspool?get the fuck out!
>>8322414AYO is that Laois from Dungeon Meshi?Its so hot seeing him pound cheeks. I think either him, Toji from JJK or Denji from Chainsaw Man are my favorite males to see in hentai scenes
>>8323459>based cluelesskek, ironic. that is a shitposter you are replying too
fox.
>>8323462I choose to believe that anon is genuine
Man fuck this post wait time I'm gonna mass reply>>8321885Not into anal but this stirred me>>8321791How do you generate closeups on the face like this? I've done portrait as a tag but it generates the entire head + neck and shoulders. >>8321746>>8321742This girl looks familiar. Is she from a magic girl anime?
>>8323463That's a dead fox
>>8323466bro?she's literally coming back next patch as an SSR
>>8322164How big's that dick, boy?
>>8323436
>>8323436>>8323470I'm retarded, I forgot to paste the linkhttps://files.catbox.moe/vzmkur.png
>>8323471Thanks king42 steps though holy shit
my steps are aligned
I can tell it's pone from a preview
we all can
what forums do the nips and chinese use to discuss and share metadata similar to /hdg/?
>>8323479>nips>share metadatahaha, good one anon
>>8323479>share metadataThey usually don't.Nips use some shitty blogs to share some info.Like this https://note.com/redrayz/n/n6dce02a57498
>>8323479they don't and they're extremely outdatedif retards here still use pony, they're using some 1.5 garbage (or something style aligned to that)
How about you align some bitches on your dick
>>8323472Is it really that much? I see people doing 60 steps.
>>8323484Satori would not suck some stranger's dick in a public toilet. This is AI-generated
>>8323463foxbox?
>>8323485She actually would after her mind gets overloaded by lewd thoughts from all the middle aged salaryman riding on the train with her.
>>8323487https://files.catbox.moe/a335jk.png
>>8323484Haven't used that sampler but I would assume it's overkill, usually 25-30 is good I think. Try running some xyz grids to be sure though
>>8323489foxbased, thanks.
>>8323490Yeah, I did a small test and around 25 seems to have good results while cutting the gen time, thanks for saving me several hours across days of slopping.
>>8323496why is he white
sex with ghosts
>>8323497Are you having a stroke?>>8323498
>>8323501Didn't mean to quote that second post. Am I having a stroke?
>>8323497bias in training data
nyo... she's eating him alive...https://files.catbox.moe/f6ljh2.png
>>8323497Is this what "white" looks like in India?
>>8323504based
>>8323504>six fingers
>>8323498looks like https://i.pinimg.com/originals/19/1f/7e/191f7e8f8f129fd017be709a211a13ce.jpg
>>8323509woah I was too busy looking at that cunny to notice
>>8323511the cunny isn't very detailed too
>>8323504why is it so erotic?
>>8323514it's child belly
Why don't half the controlnets work with noob? It's just another SDXL model, isn't it? What did they do to fuck the model so hard?
>>8323518retard
>>8323512is this any better, Mr. Cunny Connoisseur?https://files.catbox.moe/l9469x.png
>>8323519some people don't know how to read, you gotta understand them
>>8323521>>8323519So you don't know either, huh. Sorry for your pain.
>>8323520much better, yeah
Absolutely retarded mongoloids. Faggots, even
>>8323497
>>8323524anonie.... why would you say that? i thought we were friends
>>8323526you're not my friend buddy
>>8323524Rude.
>>8323504Now show her topless but covering her nipples with her hands.
>>8323167catbox onigai?
>>8323527im not your buddy, guy
>>8323527n-n... nyo...
>>8323531I'm not you guy, friend
>>8323530https://files.catbox.moe/ek2a2q.png
>>8323477>>8323478Forgot to do your request last thread, here you go
>>8323533bosnia and herzegovina
wrap it up with these p*ny gens, buddy
It's not perfect but for only having a total of 3 images in the dataset I'll take it. If anyone knows where I can find more Happoubi Jin data for Ichika, do let me know
at least it's not n**b
funny shitpost mate
>>8323545shortly after pony release
>>8323545shadow what the fuck are you talking about
Why is it always nogens shitting on Pony?
>>8323542why is noob considered bad
>>8323536arrigato
>>8323550why is pony considered bad
any good noob vpred training .toml?>>8323552it's fucking ugly
>>8323549More like 1 nogen
>>8323549>>8323552An autistic guy from Astralite's discord server got banned and he's sworn vengeance against him every since. Every time he sees a pony-adjacent model get used on these threads he shitposts at them
Pony is good for /aco/, but this is thread for anime (moe)
>>8323556wrong reply buddy, here>>8323550
>>8323016super hotstrokin my shit rn
every "pony defender" falseflagging shitposter was dropped on their head in childhood
>it's FALSEFLAAAGcope all you want
multiple layers of irony won't hide the fact you're retarded
keep coping, retard
>>8323548nice style, data?
So when I upscale to x2 with SwinIR_4x the picture gets FUBAR.is going 1024x1024 -> 2048x2048 a bad idea? How do i increase image size without ruining the gen?
>>8323569Yes
This thread reeks of horse shit
>>8323568Lower the denoise, 0.7 is way too much. Try something like 0.3 and go higher if the upscaled picture is not detailed enough.
>>8323573circle the spam for us
This thread reeks of pedo shit
>>8323573you don't like pony gens BRO?
He clearly wants more cunny gens
>>8323569>>8323570>>8323572basided
this is /b/ though, you know, horse feces eating general
retard
>>8323567It's the Sunflower v1 model on pixai.artThey wipe the metadata after every download but here's what I put in>source_anime, best quality, highly detailed, dark background BREAK>galko, perfect eyes, beautiful eyes, spread pussy, 1girl, nude, nipples, pussy juice, spread legs, blue eyes, pink eyeshadow, blonde hair, pink_lips, black thighhighs, long fingernails, pink_nails, huge breasts, blushing, belly button, looking at viewer, shy, choker, looking at viewer, bracelets, rings, BREAK,negative>nsfw, lowres, bad anatomy, bad hands, text, error, missing fingers, extra digit, fewer digits, cropped, worst quality, low quality, quality bad, hands bad, eyes bad, face bad, normal quality, jpeg artifacts, signature, watermark, username, blurry, artist name>sampling steps: 25>cfg:6>sampling method: Euler aI made these before Pixai went SFW only though, so you may not be able to remake smut on there
>>8323587fuck that's so goodstill, there's much to learn, like from these fellas>>8323569>>8323570>>8323572
>>8323574r00d
>>8323587that aint my plump gal galko i want a refund
Pony requiem is upon us
I aligned my steps
eps:>works out of the box>proven by previous local SotA>good color balance>crisp linesvpred:>needs 3 different extensions to work>only local model that used it was a furfag's (for extra yellow probably)>everything is dark>blurry as fuckso we can agree vpred was a NAI psyop, right? they should be sued for putting misleading info in their paper.
>>8323594you should also consider killing yourself
>>8323594Bait used to be believable
>>8323594>noge
>>8323595>>8323597>>8323595>no argumentsHello, kurumuz.
>>8323599>nyogen
>>8323599my argument >>8322488
>>8323591>that aint my plump gal galko i want a refundYeah, to make specific girls I had to switch to yodayo. Then they went no NSFW after that too. Finding generators that do Galko is a bit hard now
>>8323595>>8323597>>8323598>>8323599>>8323600>>8323601I accept your concession
>>8323603>still nogen
>>8323603conCESsionare we talking about pony again, BRO?
>>8323605Kek
Shinobu cunny is melting my brain
your deflection bro?
vased
>>8323610uh oh... jannies are about to have a melite!!!
prepare uranus
>>8323614Ayo I did NOT need to see that shitgonna need therapy after that one
>>8323610*lick lick lick*
SLRP
>>8323620Why is it so (ai_generated:1.8)
>>8323593>I aligned my stepswhat does that mean
>>8323610Too based for this shitpost ridden thread.
>>8323624what's her body count?
>>8323610What's with the wrinkled skin? Is she a hag?
>>8323615This 95% looks drawn in mspaint, it's god tier
>>8323626So far 1, only generated her getting fucked once. MiqoAnon knows her real body count tho
>>8323630Yes, pony is garbage
>>8323628
>>8323627she's 600 years old so yeah kinda
>>8323632sovlnvke
samefag
You wanna know what your anny may girls look like in 30 years?
>>8323636Holy shit! Is that incase style lora? Moar?
The only worthwhile comparison is noob vpred 0.5 vs noob vpred 0.6
as you align each step, it also aligns you
battle not with miqomixers, lest ye become a miqomixerand if you gaze into the adetailer, the adetailer also gazes into you
as each shitpost aligns the ces arises...
>>8323134What post is Nyalia?
>>8323627Yes sir
>>83236417th box?
I think a lot of the jokes that people use in these threads never get old and it makes me laugh every single time they're posted.
Why doesn't flooxyfloox work? Installed ReForge but it just wont gen
>>8323657How very meta of you.
>>8323656https://files.catbox.moe/wguvvd.png
I tried something interesting, why do loras die when you overtrain them compared to fine tunes getting better with more training?I knew this would be shit but I trained a lora on 10 repeats of almost every bowsette image on booru, this was 40k steps.It is just autismmix but it seems to have got weirdly 3d and monochrome, what is the reason this is not just a really "good" lora.
is this canon?
>>8323661The math under the hood is differentIt's like hovercrafts compared to maglev trains
can we please catbox the pony gens from now on so i don't get forced into looking at these atrocities?
>>8323661to add to it, 10 repeats of each image on a smaller dataset produces a good result, so by adding more different images I made a lora worse?
>>8323660nta but thanks. that 7th is really good.
>>8323664>non-euclidean gloryholesbased pony
>>8323666seethe paypig
>>8323660based, thanks
>>8323666No.
I have been genning nothing but blacked /ss/ on Noob.
>>8323676show us on >>>/b/degen
>>8323674>>8323673>>8323664bautiful imagery sirs
>>8323676catbox it, now
>>8323666but i don't want to look at anime garbage, so do the same with noob gens
>>8323674zesty ahh nigga
>>8323273>>8323541catbox?
https://civitai.com/models/694899
>>8323685>>>/civitai/>>8323691
>>8323691>check the examples>someone making shark girls with itI have even more questions.
>>832369399% of civitai lora galleries will have multiple pictures that have 0 correlation with the lora.
>>8323691I guess we discovered the reason civitai is going green
Requesting a 4B bitch who is bald, with stupid glasses, wearing a covid mask and a blue bracelet getting fucked by a man and loving it
>>8323690https://files.catbox.moe/caqjd4.png
>>8323698>4Bthey made a sequel to nier automata?
>>8323703it's her brother
Any LoRA bakers been having issues where their old non vpred loras baked on noobai 1.0 work better on the noobai vpred checkpoints than their new vpred loras baked on the noobai vpred checkpoints? I've tried a few different optimizers (CAME, adam, and prodigy) and learning rates and the vpred LoRAs just don't seem to generalize as well. If I make a gen that's close to an image in the source dataset it'll look ok but once I start adding in new stuff it slowly moves away from it. This is happening with styles and characters. I've added --v_parameterization and --zero_terminal_snr to the command line args but haven't really changed much else aside from toying around with learning rates and optimizers.
>>8323707multires noise and min_snr_gamma benefits probably
>>8323707try scale vpred loss like epred, it's hit or miss whether it works for me but generally prevents frying
>>8323387i can jerk off to this
>>8323691finally... a proper representation for my BBC gens...
>>8323707Have some empirically tested snake oil, run this for 4500 steps and it should work (at least on v-pred 0.5)https://files.catbox.moe/w5g18h.toml
>>8323707that seems more like your lora is overfitting some, you might want to test out training on a larger dataset or a lower step count with a higher batch size. or a lower step count with a higher batch size. i don't really know anymore
i've noticed 1280x1280 gens look better than 1024x1024.Isn't that kinda strange when models are 1024 based
>>8323720what? how?
>>8323720My default gen res has been 1024 x 1280 for a while now even though it is non-standard. It just works.
Suddenly, Dr Manhattan.
>>8323720I need a faster gpu for thatOn a 4090 is already slow to upscale from 1024x1024 at x2 for 2048x2048 with hi-res fix, more base res would be ripWill have to wait for 5090 to use higher resolutions prob
>>8323661>>8323667lora basically never look good over 10k steps, idk why maybe someone who knows more can say
>>8323707same experience for me. style training already felt very inconsistent on base noob eps and it feels even more so on noob vpred
He left as quick as he came.
>>8323734>x anus what the fuck
>>8323736>>8323734x anus is cute tho
>>8323739bitch is using pepper spray as lotion
https://files.catbox.moe/nnzk6u.png
>>8323741It's magic (supposedly)
>>8323736Did you lose your mind the first time you saw Miffy?
>>8323714Box?
>>8323707i've been trying my hand at training loras for noob 0.5 vpred and i have similarly found that convergence is fairly inconsistent. it feels like the finer features within the styles aren't easily picked up during training.
>>8323749I sincerely hope you're being ironic
>>8323750>it feels like the finer features within the styles aren't easily picked up during trainingThis feels like an issue in general with Noob be it vpred or EPS while with Pony It felt like I was getting those fine details since even how the artists would handle censorship would carry over to the lora.
>>8323752>with Pony It felt like I was getting those fine detailslol, lmao even
Just let pony die
>>8323756have you ever trained a lora?
>>8323758it's already deadjust some degenerates are into zoophilia necrophilia
>>8323762unlike you, yes
>>8323764>unlike you, yes (no)
>>8323758It will never die, everyone on civitai is still using it because most people actually love its style for some reason.
>>8323764>nolora
The amount of details pony was able to capture even with its 4ch vae was extremely impressive and still is. I am honestly still not sure if the innate character knowledge of noob is worth it, I've been contemplating switching back to pony last few days
>>8323752it's as if the concepts in noob are strong and are not easily swayed with loras. i've been training on e-note's style but found that the finer details such as the nipple indentations are not reflected well in the outputs. i'm uncertain if this issue is due to how strong the tags are in noob or due to the rescaling of images / training resolution.>with Pony It felt like I was getting those fine detailswith pony i was able to get decent representation of finer details as well. however pony's inherent style tended to overpower the shading / lining style of the artist.
>>8323707I noticed baking on vpred 06 was a lot worse than 05 even if you inference on 06. Still testing a lot of different settings but I've had okayish results so far.
>>8323767>for some reasonbrown
>>8323767I hope that civit green shit is true
>>8323767>for some reasonMaybe you are in the wrong? Maybe you and the other autistic weeaboos who only care about recreating fotmslop anime artstyles and gacha characters are the minority?
>>8323776Yeah, and that's exactly why everyone uses 3.5L and Flux, right?
>>8323762NTA but I trained a shitload of LoRAs on Pony and fine details were the thing they always struggled with. LoRA, LoCon, DoRA, they all suffered the same issues with frying small details and failing to learn character elements without overbaking style. The very first test LoRAs I baked on Illustrious didn't suffer this at all and easily learned things like tiny hair ornaments without raping style.
>>8323776trvthnvke
>>8323752for me it was more that with pony i could consistently get 70% of an artist's style no matter what (and it was almost impossible to go higher than that), but for noob it'll often burn before learning even 40% of their style seemingly at random, although it can also get up to 90% sometimes (also seemingly at random)
>>8323780nah
>>8323783skill issue
so much money wasted on dogshit sdxl because stability cant release a decent model to literally save their companies life
>go to hentai board>why do you like hentai, retards
>>8323786i hope so but i see a lot of people report similar issues both here and on other places
>>8323802this is hotter if it's a dominant 1girl on top
>>8323803amazon position is futa adjacent homo shit
I'm still using Pony based mixes.
>>8323496reimubox?
>>8323805low test fag spotted
>>8323813sure dude. just like futa is so "high test" as well because she has a dick
>>8323818finally a proper /h/ gen
I have a confession to make, I'm still fapping to my slop pony gens I made more than 5 months ago because I'm too lazy to revisit the concept on noob
>>8323818I lost, box?
>>8323818cursed
>>8323803cringe sóyfaggot
>>8323822https://files.catbox.moe/28qhe6.png
>>8323707the fuck is a vpred
>>8323827lurk for 50 years before posting
>>8323821>I have a confession to make, I'm still fapping to my slop pony gens I made more than 5 months ago because I'm too lazy to revisit the concept on noobSame, I have acclimated to Pony, but still fap to good gens I find on herePic related
>>8323831Pic unrelated?
vpred 0.6 is pretty great so far
vpred 0.6 is pretty fired already...
>>8323831The classic 6 finger job
>>8323833What.in.the absolute fuck.is.V P R E D.I'm done asking nicely. Don't make me fuck you up.I will reddit space you until you fucking DIE.TELL ME.
every noob model after eps 0.5 has been inferior at best
>>8323831Is that 1.5?
>>8323838>TELL MEOH YOU'LL FIND OUTI'M ABOUT TO SUMMON IT
>>8323838It stands for V(ore) predator.
>>8323826jej
>>8323838vpred is snake oil
>>8323838vpredator and you are epsilonprey
Which illustrious version is best?
>>8323859it's all been downhill since base illustrious 0.1
>>8323859Whichever one that (You) prefer.
Skin, muscle, and fat gets thinner when it gets stretched, and sometimes it makes the bones underneath more visible. Particularly in the arched_back situation, the structure of the ribs becomes obvious. However, a lot of artists fail to draw this properly, so either the character's fat level is inconsistent or their anatomy becomes tube-like so the underlying rib structure basically doesn't exist anymore.Are there any artists that do this well that can be prompted for?
>>8323862why not just put the ribs tag in your prompt
>>8323862use real pictures as a controlnet, I did here even if the face got messed up later from inpainting as sideways heads generally go terribly (I should have rotated the picture before inpainting)
>>8323865Because it draws the ribs in a naive way. It's like it first draws the body and then put some lines on, which ultimately are anatomically wrong.
>>8323866incredible pic btw, love the face, very erotic expression
>>8323838>What. in. the absolute fuck. is. V P R E D-I'll try to explain it in layman's terms if you don't mind anon. Vpred is a model training technique, that applies some different algorithm/math during training of images, that allows the model being trained to better represent the colors of the actual images it has been trained on. For instance Vpred models can generate true black color (#000000) while for epsilon based models (base SDXL, pony v6, etc.) it's almost impossible to do the same.The math/algorithm used for denoising/noising images during training makes it so the epsilon model leans more towards a greyer/sepia/muted tone in terms of colors, compared to vpred models where colors "pop" more if that makes sense.I'm also not sure if this is 100 % correct, but due to being able to learn the colors of images better during training, certain concepts and styles might come out looking better/more accurate on vpred models compared to epsilon based ones.
some retard said using - makes for better prompt adherence, like, aqua-hair instead of aqua hair, thoughts?
I was young my an' you were mineMy enemy you were, my an' I was yourYour enemy you were, my an' I was yourYour enemy you were, my an' I was onceYOUR ENE-
>>8323873depends on what the tag was set as in your dataset...
>>8323876I meant in the whole noob model
>>8323859NTR MIX
>>8323873that was neggles, xzshe even wrote an extension for thathttps://github.com/neggles/sd-webui-tag-separatorsounds like bullshit and considering that xzsheirs gens are crap I wouldn't bother
>>8323880make an xyz grid replacing "aqua hair" with "aqua-hair" and show us all the comparison
haaaah haaah haaah ghuoaaa rrrrrrrrr
>>8323859>Which illustrious version is best?Well currently there is only "one" version of the original Illustrious v0.1, however there are merges/fine-tunes of it already.There is a mix called "personalmerge/mix" on civitai that has been held in high regard here. You can also try any of the NoobAI checkpoints (NoobAI is a large finetune on Illustrious). Usually people say the 0.5 epsilon and the vpred 0.6 versions of NoobAI are good.I also tried a checkpoint mix called complexnoob (also on civitai) which delivered very good results during my testing. I hope the author of said mix makes a vpred version soon based on the newer Noob vpred checkpoint.
>>8323883I wont, i'm a comfy user
>>8323859the ones available on saas, thats for sure
>>8323885>There is a mix called "personalmerge/mix" on civitai that has been held in high regard hereonly by braindead idiots
>>8323886wow comfy sure sounds convenient you can't do such a simple task to work out yourself which of two things is better
>>8323889you can, that anon is just retarded
>>8323889I mean I do consider it better I just wont bother searching for a node/workflow/tutorial for a xy plot
Anybody know the right tag for fully glowing eyes? As in, no iris, pupil or sclera, all glowing white
>>8323873>some retard said using - makes for better prompt adherence, like, aqua-hair instead of aqua hair, thoughts?I doubt that due to the way clip works, it sees the "-" as an extra token, and if the text-encoder is trained from the beginning on "aqua hair", why not just keep it like that? I have a feeling that regardless if you train/use a tag with/without "-" instead of spaces, it will have similar results. It just adds extra noise, but I could be wrong. >>8323888>only by braindead idiotsWell in that case - anon what do you recommend instead?
>>8323892I think it depends on the artist. You could try the solid circle eyes tag but that might make it more chibi than anything else
>>8323892>Anybody know the right tag for fully glowing eyes? As in, no iris, pupil or sclera, all glowing white"solid eyes" or "blank eyes" might be the tag you're looking for? combine with "glowing eyes" + your preferred eye color:https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/solid_eyes?z=2
>neither illust nor noob support anytest/posetestDogshit models desu.
>>8323893noob eps 0.5 and pray that vpred 1.0 won't be a half-broken mess
I truly don't think I can go back to 3DPD womenIm just genning and enjoying myself fullyI think I'll just start ordering sex toys and figurines now which was something I avoided doing beforeI used to feel pressure about getting a family but I just can't be bothered with this life
>>8323900subscribed, keep the updates coming!
>>8323838not e-pred
>>8323900Based. Get into chatbots as well for maximum aincel experience
>>8323898>noob eps 0.5 and pray that vpred 1.0 won't be a half-broken messI pray with you anon.Though it seems vpred 0.6 isn't half bad in my testing at least. APG seems to alleviate the issues with frying/oversaturation that I had to begin with.>>8323900>I used to feel pressure about getting a family but I just can't be bothered with this lifeWell if you're still in your 20's or 30's or earlier there's still plenty of time. But there is nothing wrong with being single either, but it's important to surround yourself with friends and family who support you. Also consider this as an hobby, but if you feel like it's distracting you from real life tasks, perhaps set some form of boundaries if you can.
>>8323907>APGWhat is that
>>8323908men who get aroused by thinking of themselves as women, leading cause of troonism
>>8323900Your eyes have finally been opened. Enjoy the blissful world of 2D brother, and forgo 3DPD utterly.
Did LBW break on reforge? <lora:1:0> was working the other day but now it just defaults to 0
have (You) fed your succubus today?
Who the fuck is that.
>>8323908It's a extension in reForge if you're on the experimental branch (might be on the other branches, I haven't checked) that allows you to turn CFG waaay higher up without stuff frying. It kind of replaces CFG.You can enable it in it's own tab below in txt2img, together with the other extensions (kohya hrfix, regional prompter, etc.). Leave the settings to their defaults when using it.
ngl I'm kinda tired of the melty, slightly slop-looking stuff bros.When the fuck are we getting the next technological leap? SD 3.5 and flux didn't do shit
>>8323919nta, I'm on the dev_upstream branch but I can't find the damn thing. Am i retarded?
>>8323859I need that sheepbox
>>8323712Enjoy anonie :3
>>8323924why not try a new artstyle
>>8323866take that hat and the boots off please
>>8322840>mind sharing the artist usedpija \(pianiishimo\), taran fiddler, gloss \(hotglossed\)>>8323461KEK nope just some random male actor the AI decided to gen.
>>8323931that doesn't do it for me boss, I can tell when stuff is AI now, it's not the style that I need, but super clean lines, no melty details, and an ai that truly obeys directions so that people can get truly creative in scenarios and storytelling.The "I'll install a new lora and generate 1girl standing in another style" honeymoon phase is over
>>8323892Just prompt no pupils and glowing eyes with weights. If those don't do it add empty eyes
>>8323937have you tried drawing?
>>8323924>When the fuck are we getting the next technological leap?Hard to say, we know that the Pony V7 finetune on auraflow will be available early 2025, but given what we know and have seen so far, it doesn't look that impressive compared to what we already have. We'll have to wait and see.I think the next logical next step would be to make a hentai/anime finetune on SD3 large, because (from what I've heard) it should be easier to finetune it for NSFW than flux due to it being not distilled? Something along those lines Also 16 vae.>>8323928dev_upstream and older branches are removed/deprecated, APG might not be available due to that. You need to pull out git and do some commands in your webui folder. See here:https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/discussions/175
>>8323934Thanks
>>8323938box?
>>8323924flux and sd3.5 are 'fine', they're shit but better than XL at least. local simply can't figure them out properly. any technological leap greater than that will be even more difficult to work with. sdxl is the gatekeeper and even that is proving to be too difficult.
>>8323942after all it's still sdxl, what miracle can they pull off? We kinda reached the limits of the technology by now, what we need is a generational leap, either in prompt adherence and quality, or speed (ie sdxl but it gens instantly in HD on normal hardware).I've heard that flux has issues but I've seen people do loras for it on civitai, but it's still so absurdly slow and heavy.Same goes with SD 3.5, which shouldn't be as stupidly limited as SD 3, isn't it ridiculously slow?
>>8323942thank you sar
>>8323433:D
>>8323951painterly bazonka-foxgirls box please
>>8323859beyond based anila fan
>>8323948>what miracle can they pull off? We kinda reached the limits of the technology by now, what we need is a generational leap, either in prompt adherence and quality, or speed We have to wait. Also before what I meant was SD3.5, not SD3, sorry. >>8323949No problemo :D
>>8323866why does her face look like someone slammed it with an anvil?
>>8323948anything with a 16ch vae will be slower than an equivalent with 4ch since you are generating or training at 4x the sizebut 4ch and other super compression copes just arent enough, can only hope for some breakthrough
>>8323966well, I remember when local text models were super slow and heavy as fuck, while now they're very fast and almost perform on the level of much bigger cloud based ones, I was hoping for some wizardry like that
Give me your must-have extensions for ReForge right meow!
>>8323962(looney toons:1.3)
>>8323971https://github.com/DominikDoom/a1111-sd-webui-tagcomplete (self-explanitory)https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api (NAI's website sucks ass)https://github.com/butaixianran/Stable-Diffusion-Webui-Civitai-Helper (to fetch LoRA metadata so I can cope compress my LoRA library by deleting the .safetensors files and appending .safetensors to the metadata files so the tag autocomplete extension still thinks I have the LoRA and I know my options)
>>8323968bitnet is my hopium
>>8323979I second tab autocomplete best extension by far
>>8323979thank you for reminding me to download tagcomplete so that i can stop looking up how to spell caltropsasso
>>8323954https://files.catbox.moe/e9pjey.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/4bkobi.jpg
>>8323986>>8323979Someone on civitai also made and uploaded an updated .csv for that too which included tags up to the date of noob or something. It's not much but it helps.
>>8323971https://github.com/Physton/sd-webui-prompt-all-in-one (Can't use ReForge without it at this point)https://github.com/zanllp/sd-webui-infinite-image-browsing (it's like my own personal gallery, helps with managing styles as well if you use custom folders)https://git.mmaker.moe/mmaker/sd-webui-color-enhance.git (helped with brightness for pony gens but i don't use pony anymore)That's it.
>>8323994can you link it?
>>8323998box??
>>8323946https://files.catbox.moe/99da2u.png
>>8323996https://civitai.com/models/862893/updated-danboorucsv2024-10-16-for-webui-tag-autocomplete
>>8324001Thank you anon, very cool!
>>8323833Explain why it is better than vpred 0.5 without sounding mad
>>8323980nta but what is zat? anotha snake oil? Qrd?
>>8323924>flux didn't do shitJust because no one wants to attempt at finetuning it, doesn't mean that this model is not a leap.With a single lora, you can already make indistinguishable stuff from real one.
>>8323998https://files.catbox.moe/uze394.png
>>8324011i know this was supposed to be a reply to me, thank you
Oops>>8324012lmao my bad.
>>8323993thanks mate
>>8324010it's too fucking heavy to run
>>8324010>With a single lora, you can already make indistinguishable stuff from real one.It's highly likely a skill issue, but I didn't manage to make the dev branch look any closer to any artist I tried.
>>8323924Kek in your case I think that's good thing that you are finally getting tired of it. You definitely don't have a healthy relationship with this tech.
>>8324019How do you get contrast this good? My stuff always comes out fully lit.
>>8324023it's vpred
>>8324019box?
>>8324023Probably it's the artist mix, but check the catbox and see if there is anything else you think may help.>>8324025https://files.catbox.moe/ofaloq.png
>>8324021ouch
>>8324021>>8324029Yeah if youre not getting the same high or enjoyment from this hobby, youre defnitley running a hedonistic treadmill trying to get to that high point again at this point lol
>>8323919>>8323720>increase base resolution from 832x1216 to 1024x1472>enable APG and more than double the CFG from 5->12>final image comes out way better and more accurateWell, shit. This information is better late than never I suppose. Thanks guys, I should be experimenting more.
>>8324019a single tit woman
>>8324029I think he's trying to say that you actually have potential and imagination to become a real artist, anon. I really like your drawings
>>8324027>(masterpiece, best quality, newest, absurdres, highres:0.8)why tho
>>8324027>>8324034bro? your "very awa"?
>>8324029Hey man I too have come to the realization that this not a healthy hobby in the long run. It's about moderation and setting limitations for yourself while not going full cold turkey, because doing that (according to my psychologist) makes you miserable and more prone to fall prey to ones addictions again.One thing you could try, that sometimes has helped me, is to have something that distracts you from genning and gets you away from your pc once in a while - be it an alarm or something else that requires your attention. It's basically a way to "reset" your brain and causes it to break its hyperfocus on the AI anime booba.>>8324031>enable APG and more than double the CFG from 5->12Glad that worked for you!>increase base resolution from 832x1216 to 1024x1472Huh, this is new, I guess I better try this.
Stop stealing my prompts you fucks
>>8324030>>8324042jokes aside, I know it's actually good, and I know that the moment a reasonably easy to run generational leap will drop I'll spiral down into it againI've been making toy robots for underprivileged children in the meantime. Which, if you think about it, it's a pretty fucked up contrast to the 24/7 AI gooning loop I was into not too long ago.The focus break technique doesn't work on me, I'm severely autistic. I forget to eat and use the bathroom, you think an alarm will stop me? The only thing that snaps me out of it for a bit is to jizz, but AI at the moment is "75%" good, which is a lethal level to be it, since you never are fully satisfied by the results, but they're good enough to be wanting to try again. Thanks for the tip though, I appreciate it>>8324033What do you mean? I'm already an artist, as you can tell by my uncannily photorealistic portraits https://files.catbox.moe/4wc2o1.png
>>8324034Because it pleases me.
>>8324046Start training loras, unironically.
>>8323993<lora:hg_ILLNOOBv1_001a_64ld32cd_extract:2>what's this lora? It doesn't come up when I google it
>>8324051>64ld32cd_extractnta but thats a locon extract probably
>>8324013hot tip toe
>>8324052I don't know what that is nor what it's supposed to do
>>8324046Totally agree with >>8324050. Had a massive problem with staying up the entire night because I was genning so much, and training loras/finetuning puts stops in place. You just can't gen while your gpu is busy, and at least in my case, it still scratched that itch. Granted, I didn't gen booba as much as cute girls, but I don't think it'll be that different.Give it a try, and maybe it helps. And if it doesn't you'll still have a new toy to play with
QUESTION do I use noise offset when training character? I tried reading about it but didnt find anything concrete about it
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>>8324046>>8324056Training LORAs is definitely a a thing of its ownbut its even more productive given that you can share said LORAs and have other anons gen with them.>>8324059From my understanding it helps shake off some of the style transfer from what youre trying to train, I have no idea whether it actually works or not I just use it when my dataset is too uniform in terms of style.
>>8324059noise offset is a meme, use pyramid noise at 8-10/0.4
>>8324061>>8324063Thanks, i'll try that with my next bake then, somehow everytime I tweak something I feel like it get worse
>>8324061>more productive given that you can share said LORAs and have other anons gen with themNot just that, but you also learn more about the model, optimizers, and stuff.
>>8324063snake oil
>>8324016But you offset that with less rerolling and higher quality images>>8324020Obviously it is going to be hard to beat anime based model vs base model with single anime lora. My point is that you can easily see how flux picks up stuff that is literally impossible for SDXL to do. Here for example is my roborobocap lora for flux.
>>8324044NO
>>8324069the speed to quality ratio isn't in its favor compared to finetuned sdxl
>>8324016flux really needs a lighter version or we just need to wait until technology catches up because if you don't gen on it using anything that has more than 12+ gbs of vram its probably not worth it.
>>8324067Introducing noise of different frequencies actually helps in capturing small features in these frequencies, also helping with colors.Noise offset just shifts noise frequency overall, slightly improving the colors.
>>8324072I disagree.
>>8324073that's clean af
>>8324079Yeah I was pleasantly surprised the hand under clothes tag seems to work alright. The issue is I had to change the outfit because it kind of defaults to grabbing from below so I had a leotard originally and it just kept destroying the outfit. Couldn't really get it to grab from the sides.
>>8324076do you have like example images to demonstrate what you mean?
>>8324082how the fuck are the lines so sharp?
>>8324085its goat anon, always good
Is there a tag for that sort of wavy uneven smile people are sometimes drawn with to show they're a little embarrassed/shy?
Jfc this thread feels like it's been going on forever
>>8324091embarrassed smile, wavy mouth, closed mouth?
>>8324091nervous_smile
is epic saying the truth?
>>8324093>wavy mouthThat's the one, thanks
can we add the wizard's booru tag cleaner in the op? I keep losing the link
>>8324097proof 10 seed xy plot
>>8324099just type "cleaner" in your search bar and the suggested will auto complete
>>8324102ah shit you're right, he put it in the title of the website, even if it's not in the url it comes uphttps://coomwizard.neocities.org/
>>8322730>>8322762try shennai mishait's consistent and nobody is using it heregoing thru all the artists and making grids will take me probably about a week
>>8324103what is that thing supposed to do?
>>8324105you find an image on a booru that you like, you copypaste all the tags in it, and it spits them out in a format you copypaste into webui
>>8324108I have a python script for that
>>8324101>>8324097ppl are saying it works
>>8324109I bet your mom is proud
>>8324108ah,ok, that's neat
>>8324110what if it learned the tag correctly but e621 tags are dogshityeah
>>8324111Anon's mom?
>>8324111Just retarded to use some website when you can do it locally.
>>8324120"ara ara you're so smart anon kun"
>>8324111My mother is long dead
>>8324117They are probably fine for animal characters with no thumbs, but applied to humans they shit the bed.
>>8324120Just retarded to do it locally when there's a website for it
>>8324103seems kina pointless when this exists https://github.com/FSpark/Danbooru-Tags-Exporter
>>8324125good day to you kurumuz
how do I get free anals
>>8324128Are you cute?
>>8324103>>8324126I stopped doing this since I got a sense that the models actually do better with manual tag ordering. So I simply just use the autocomplete extension thing.
>>8324126the website is universal, needs no knowledge, portable and has funny deranged pixel art cat in it
>>8324130do models care about tag order besides quality tags? rip, i have been probably doing it all wrong
>>8324133I mean, the order does change the generation, but it doesn't mean it's gonna be better, it's only the reason why you shouldn't change it if you're working on something you like
>>8324133They don't and everyone who claims the opposite is a x/yless faggot
>>8324132hello creator of the website
>>8324097>>8324110Updated all my presets featuring anti-furshit prompts, this better work.
This shit doesnt work, anyone knows why?
>>8324109that's also neat
Man, forge couple is so messed up on reforge. Anybody know how to fix it, or an alternative?https://files.catbox.moe/sxrwvq.png
I wish vpred was good...
>>8324152Congratulations, your wish has been granted. Oh. You meant a specific vpred model was good? Should have specified then.
>>8324152rouwei vpred 1.0 will save us
vpred illusob feels nice so far but it's really throwing the shota beam at any men in the picture.
>>8324154There's only 1 (one) relevant vpred: it's noob. Why is it so fried?
>>8324157Mhm, 0.6 doesn't feel fried to me. What sampler/cfg are you using?
>>8324159Maybe autism mix ruined my prompting abilities, but I can't achieve anything decent with it
>>8324159Euler A, auto/ays, 5 cfg (it's working okayish with cfg rescale snakeoil)
reforge guy here, added a probably useless extension to do random resolutions per gen, like a wildcard for resolutions I guess? Fun to test I think.>>8324148if main branch it should work fine (using older forge couple versions)if not main branch, regional prompter should work, but not latent mode, just attention mode.
>>8323390creampie pls
>>8324164I think LBW might also be acting up or at least the ability to do <lora:1:0> to have lora start full strength and wind down to none by the last step. I could have sworn when your first put it in it was working but today only :stop= is working for that sort of thing.
>>8324164>like a wildcard for resolutionsThanks I have been looking for that, I was using multiple tab with each their own resolution and make different to have variety
>>8324160>>8324161Fwiw, haven't had many issues with just euler normal cfg 5-5.5 25 steps so far
>>8324168Hmm well I separated because some issues, but I can restore it to earlier versions.With commit https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/29d88ff4f9227a7aabd1803fed61b794ba4482d9 worked? Remember if you test those, remove the external extension.
>>8324168>>8324173forgor the other link, this onehttps://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/7fe93e044c02108543673813deba7bd52eb5c7e9
Do NoobAI-XL works with Forge WebUI I'm only getting blue ugly images with it.
>>8324180yes
>>8324180>>8324181It was my prompt, I used the weird system with slashes and I got weird blue images. I copied a prompt from civitai without the slashes and it worked.
>>8324186no
>>8324164New Sampler is amazing, thank you bwo
>>8324060nice pose, box?
Try my sampler shitmix.
>>8324177Trying to roll-back and yet I'm still not getting the same results so later I'll try and see what I was doing on my end to change things.I might of had one of the LBW forks left in my extensions folder when it was working or something.
>>8324110Any XYZ tests yet?
>>8324190I genned it on vpred and upscaled on epred, so it might not work as well on epsilon modelhttps://files.catbox.moe/h247yw.png
>>8324202>netorare
>>8324204yeah she's cucking me right now
>other thread deletedwut
>>8324204yeah, it just werks. dont ask why
>>8324209probably the cunnyposting
>>8324216So ban those posters, why delete the thread?
>>8324204ntrmix bros ALWAYS winning. I hate it.
Is NoobAI technically and effort-wise on the same level as PonyXL? Didn't Pony make a new model from scratch? Did NoobAI do the same?
>>8324210things like yandere work as well
>>8324217because there were fucking 5 active /hdg/ threads on a board that's otherwise slow as balls?
(foreshortening:2.5)
is illustrous the new king of the hill or is pony still holding them all off?
>>8324227pony won
>>8324226eh, just another day at the job
>>8324232what would a thousand year old bush look like, how long realistically could it get
>>8324229anything else coming up? is flux / aura / sd3 getting ponyfied?
how do i sort by score on gelbooru?forgot and can't find any faq or something
>>8324229ponyfucker got a lot of flak but they sure made a model that has stuck around for... what 6? 9? mos and no signs of slowing down yet?
>>8324235another 10 years of pony
>>8324238hail to the king, baby!
>>8324236order:score
>>8324236>>8324241nm i misread thatgelbooru/r34 is sort:score. danbooru is order:score. don't ask me why
>>8324242thanks
told ya faggots will crawl back to pony and ask for forgivenessit just fucking works
https://files.catbox.moe/fm6tzh.png
>>8324245You are right. I see the error of my ways. Pony is all you need. Forever.
Kohaku LoNyu Yog is a game changer
If pony was the only option at this point I'd just give up on AI. Before illu/noob I was unironically training SFW for flux because I was that fucking done with pony. Good riddance. Noob could continue to fuck up their bakes in unimaginable ways and I'd still not return to shitass pony. I'm so free, so finally free Infact, at this point I hate pony so much that even if the new model was God's gift to this earth, magically worked with next to no VRAM and 3d printed me an onahole in the shape of my waifus vagina, I wouldn't use it. Fuck that retarded shit
>>8324252very awa anon
>>8324252same desu.
but at no point has pony ever been the only option? also don't worry, you'll be using v7 like it or not ;)
>>8324198If you have one please let me know, since you can send a PR.Or I could default it to an older version of LBW that should work in theory (but I have to modify the script to detect LBW prompts)
>>8324252Based status?
>>8324251Too bad gens with it take fucking forever, at least on Forge.
>>8324252Based spitefag.
>>8324251when was this added on reforge
>>8324252pony dominance was CES, GPO from start to end
>>8324252imagine being this mindbroken
>multires noise offset has better lines/colors but shitty simple backgrounds and hands>no offset has better hands and simple backgrounds but shit colors and linesvpred illustrious please
>>8324252this
>>8324252I only came back to image gen because I saw that we'd moved on from poopny. Feels good.
>>8323405Thank you based god, I got into learning AI because of this picture. I've been genning pictures of her for three days straight, unhappy with the results overall from img2img. Been trying out 7 different models. Anything extra you can share about how you made her would be great. Been trying to recreate her in all kinds of ways to build a foundation of learning. Want to generate pictures with her consistently if possible.Is there any way to give her a name and so the model can reference it?
>>8324251>>8324261Is this on main branch or dev? I don't want to jump off main.
>>8324270It's part of that broken smea sampler extension and snakeoil anyway
>>8324252Based pony hater. Pony did more damage to this general than any single schizo or paid shills could ever do. The amount of cope needed to use that piss of a model was just too much to remain sane, I guess.
>>8324272but this general has been way worse since illu's release?
>>8324273For /aco/sloppers it has certainly been rough
>>8324275who's talking about gen quality?
>>8324273nah
>>8324198>>8324256Okay just did a new commit to the extension, now it should work fine, tested with lbw=preset and start, stop and step.>>8324270it is on all branches, including main yes
>>8324252I've been signing up astrakikes purpleai emails to every kind of spam and newsletter site I can come across for over half a year now. Sometimes I just let a script handle it, but there's a kind of joy in doing it myself. For a while I'd link artists to his opt out thing but I got bored of that and not many of them responded to my messages. It's not even about disliking the model at this point, I just really dislike astrajew. Whenever his orbiters post something that links them to an account or if they have one in their discord profiles, I do the same to it, too. I don't commit much time to all of this, mind you. Just here n there. I've considered hiring services to do more targetted harassment for me but I'm pretty lazy to bother.
>>8324251Only for inpaint or img2img upscales
>>8324281based schizo retard
>>8324251I have been speaking it's praise for a few months now in regards to how well it cleans up a gen but it is still situational. Sometimes stuff in the background looks extra weird with it.
>>8324283It's a rough path to follow, but someone must do it.
>>8324248can you please not use sakura for this?
Samplerautists are at it again?
>>8324281kinda basado
>Euler a>AutoamticThat's all you need.
>>8324292unpopular opinion butI've always liked plain Euler 10x better
where do the aligned steps lead
>>8324281using pixar shit in the model isn't copyright infringement?it's documented in his last civit strem :^)
>>8323405>>8323406Also is there any special way you got the character to have blue underdye in her hair? Where the outer layer of the hair is black but the inner layer is blue. It looks so good.
>>8324292I wonder what scheduler "automatic" resolves to, in the end.
>>8324295Someone did report him to Hasbro a while back. Someone.
I don't understand all the spite, to be honest. Having more options is always good, you don't have to use the model yourself if you don't want to.
>>8324052correct>>8324054I finetuned the noobv1epsilon model and then extracted lora from it.Finetune was on made on 150 movie stills (characters + scenery shots, like from harry porter etc.)Im using it to adds a bit of realism/film grain to noob/ILL gens
>>8324300/aco/
>>8324299You don't have to understand. Some men just want to watch the faggot brony burn.
>>8324268do you mind if I'll make her have sex with several african american gentlemen?
1homu
>>8324301actually as109
>>8324303Original anon here, yeah sure go ahead, don't forget to use a neat style like Truck-kun's does :)
>>8324296Literally >black hair, blue inner hairIf it doesn't work emphasis or space them further out on the prompt since it may want to make the whole head blue.
>>8324299nta but i get it. i hate astratroon as a """person""" enough that i'd be ok with a model getting sacrificed if it nets a laugh at his expense. should've been here when he'd come to hdg trip on to try to insult anons lol.
>>8324252score_9, score_8_up, source_anime
>>8324303This girl only reaches perfection when it's done in the style of this with the oddly pastel colours...https://files.catbox.moe/781ufp.pngThe ones I genned myself in my pics and yours are great but not quite god tier. Either way you are free too but I like the suggestive just touching stuff more.>>8324307Thank you, I appreciate that a crap ton. More than you know. I'm such a sucker for it and I need to learn everything I can for BlueGirl.
>>8324308I don't usually consider myself a very sadistic person. But I'd genuinely find it hilarious if he went broke and became homeless.
>>8324300kys aco slopperall your posts are sudo realistic shit that has nothing to do with animeand the fact that you are using lora trained on underage actress is just cherry on top
>>8324304great gen, very clean
r34 comments on my pics are so boring>"ugh wish i was her">"need a slut to fuck like this"shut up assholes
>>8324296Try 1girl, blue eyes, black hair, white serafuku, blue shirt, red bow, blue hair, standing, double v, medium hair, medium breasts, bob cut, blue inner hair,
>>8324317Will do, thank you. When I generate my own text to images I think they usually come out great if not for some tweaking needed.img2img is harder though, I just struggle with taking a character in a picture that someone created, that doesn't have a name, and try to consistently replicate them in a way consistent to the source. Any ideas?
>>8324280Thanks mate!>>8324251After trying it I think I might be a believer. It's slow as fuck but the results are noticeable.
>>8324318why are you even bothering with img2img? I just use text to image personally, I have no issues replicating my characters with text consistently. Ofc if you become dedicated enough you can get a lora made of her but I don't think that is necessary, and it would be tricky since she is fully ai, you would need someone to draw art of her or make really good stuff for the dataset.
https://files.catbox.moe/dtvxfx.png
>>8324324Well I didn't create BlueGirl so I don't know exactly what prompts created her down to the little details. Like even controlling the age is tough. Like I've done a few of my own creations and they follow what I'd imagine is 85% of her prompts but then it's very hard to control minute details such as the shape of her eyes or her age in original creations. I think my own creations look great though I need to refine more but then it's not quite BlueGirl. Control those details is difficult. Like how do you create a prompt that makes eyes look like say Carmine from Pokemon who has similar eyes to BlueGirl? Can't imagine what I would write but an AI could potentially replicate it with img2img.Carmine for reference, similar to BlueGirl.
>>8324316I dont even get the point of those comments, do they get a big rush of adrenaline when posting it or something?
>kiwimixXLI guess that one anon was recommending this because you need to wrangle the AI to NOT generate lolipedo and furry.
>>8324332i tell myself they're just botted comments to convince advertisers that engagement on the site is highi cant accept the reality that legitimate human beings make those comments
I can't get over how shit eyes look on noob/illustrous, it's always blurry and fucked up compared to pretty smooth on pony after adetailer
https://files.catbox.moe/bj1o5s.png
>>8324335I regret to inform you that this sort of behavior is endemic on western sites. I have seen it since the 90s, and nothing has changed since then.
>>8324340Good, fresh tuna is a delicacy.
>>8324340based
>>8324330>Well I didn't create BlueGirl so I don't know exactly what prompts created her down to the little details. Like even controlling the age is tough.eh I think you can get close enough with genaric guessing and prompting like with what I sent, age wise I don't know what you are after exactly but breast size can often impact how old the character can look IMO. >Shape of her eyes or her age in original creations.This makes it a lot harder, if this is what you are after. I checked the metadata on the original image that the original creator made and she doesn't have any prompts its just 1girl so shes pure rng. One thing that can get you closer is maybe if you could find an artist that draws eyes in the way you like, as that may be massively artist depended. Eyes tend to change a lot style wise between artistsI think you are better off making your own version of bluegirl that you are happy with and trying artists til you find a combo you like.
>>8324316that's what all r34 comments are like
>>8324333pretty sure that was the model used for the latest twitter meltdown
>>8324352>latest twitter meltdownqrd?
>>8324346Thank you for looking, I appreciate you trying to figure out for me. Had no idea you can look at meta data for images. >I checked the metadata on the original image that the original creator made and she doesn't have any prompts its just 1girl so shes pure rng. Shit I was worried about that. There's something about the eyes like in BlueGirl or Carmine where the eyes are like a hag/older lady up to no good. Like you know the vibe but there's not a word for it.How do I look at the meta data of a picture to get prompts?This is one of the pictures I generated myself that I like but as you see, similar to her, but ends up looking older, more mature and stuff. More like a grown lady. Still happy with it considering I just started and am learning different models.
>>8324328this her?
>>8324359The old "back hair is blue" thing... I miss it
>>8324359BlueGirl clones, my beloved.
>>8324356>cat miku>some can't tell if it's AI or not>someone tells them to pick up the pencil -> they actually did and made a quick competent sketch>more malding ensueshttps://x.com/furkiwi/status/1856654658540097868
Came back here after ages to try out Noob, why the fuck do I get blue girls
>>8324357>How do I look at the meta data of a picture to get prompts?Not all images have metadata unless the uploader drops them into a catbox link or they have an extension that allows it to be saved. But if you ever see a link that says catbox you can drop that image in the PNG Info tab of Forge (Assuming you use forge) and see the prompts. Heres my bluegirl in a catbox. open the link and drag the image into your png info box to see the prompts. https://files.catbox.moe/mbrnhn.png
>>8324365some comments are funny ngl
>>8324371I'm gonna start learning how to use Forge tomorrow. The original creator of BlueGirl was in this thread and said he uses it and dropped the catbox to the original.https://files.catbox.moe/781ufp.pngI didn't realize it was so important that it had to be cat box. I appreciate the help a ton, wish me luck in my quest to recreate BlueGirl. The owner also told me the model so that helps greatly in recreating the style.Gotta learn everything just to satisfy mah heart.
>>8324376>godIwishthatwereme(the_male).gif
>>8324374gl anony, gen enough images of her and with a high quality dataset and you can train a synthetic LORA for her.
>>8324310box?
>>8324376Kek from the thumbnail her butt looks like cartoonishly round balls, her torso the shaft with the indent of her shoulder blades being the head of the penis
>>8324374not to be confused with La Blue Girl
>>8324374the trick to eye shape and glint is personalmerge checkpoint, (blue borscht:0.8) tag and euler a with ENSD: 31337
>>8324376>>8324382i see it
>>8324379I'm still mega new so LORA and training a LORA seem a bit too far in the future but I'll try damn it. I'm just fighting on with a 1060GTX 6GB seeing how far I can go. >>8324383She's gonna be The Blue Girl. Or at least that's what I'm calling her till her creator GOD gives her a name.If she was a real anime character/gacha girl I'd whale for her.
>>8324357>There's something about the eyes like in BlueGirl or Carmine where the eyes are like a hag/older lady up to no good. Like you know the vibe but there's not a word for it.Maybe you can get that with "tsurime".
>>8324385>(blue borscht:0.8) tag and euler a with ENSD: 31337Hmm I understand that I just put (blue borscht:0.8) into prompts using personalmerge model that the creator used and told me I imagine.>euler a with ENSD: 31337I don't really understand this though...Also cute BlueGirl variant...
>>8324365those guys brain are wired in one direction and they cant fathom anything going any other ways
>>8324397yeah artists are usually derangedt. "Artist"
>>8324391>euler ascheduler>ENSD: 31337just search for ENSD in settings once you install forge and you'll find it
>>8324390I'll make a note of that, try it out in my testing. The eyes are more wide then they are in height. Slanted. Alluring. Mature. Like a ratio of 4 wide and 2 high. Tough to pin down. Also is that Yomiko Readman from Read or Die? Looks a lot like her. It's great. It legit looks like a H-scene in a good 2006 Visual novel game. Artists have no hope.
>>8324359what the anatomy bro??
>>8324401Alright definitely will do when learning forge tomorrow.Your BlueGirl is quite different but it's very cute. Also quick question should I be generating pictures in 512x512 and then upscale them to 1024x1024 or should I just take the extra time and gen them in 1024x1024?My first tests in 512x512 went bad but I can't tell if that was just a skill issue but my gens in 1024x1024 all look pretty decent...Only problem being it takes me like 20ish-minutes to make a single pic on 1024x1024.>Pic related one of the """better""" 512x512 ones
>>8324400"pick up the pencil" was always cope by retards who were unable to learn how to draw
>>8324408i decided to try the pencil, one day i will draw my own controlnets
>>8324408you're not wrong, id bet my left nut most of those comments are failed art students who didn't make it big
How do you discover new artists on illu? I'm so used to browsing civitai loras or grabbing fresh ones from the thread, feel like I'm lost now. Just trying random shit from the booru is pretty hit and miss, most styles look worse than I'd expect them to.Maybe just gen a huge chart of the top 1000, but with what prompt? It often ends up looking like a sketch or a "one hour challenge", with just the change of a seed.
kemono's patreon is back
>>8324397There's so much AOMslop and Ponyslop and Tiangdingdongslop that I kinda don't blame them but seems like some are waking up
>>8324407you should def gen at res as high as your gpu allows, unless you're going for some specific low-res style or something
>>8324413>How do you discover new artists on illu?https://danbooru.donmai.us/
>>8324164>like a wildcard for resolutions I guess? Fun to test I think.Holy based. Have you tested it with Prompt S/R? Even if it doesn't work this is yuge, thanks Reforge anon.>>8324413>How do you discover new artists on illuYears of following JP artists and getting involved in commission platforms like Skeb.
>>8324416Huh, yeah somehow I always thought it'd be rustle or bosshi the lolifags would crowd to.
GPU prices are never coming down, are they?
>>8324365cute and funny GODS
>>8324416>TiangdingdongslopMy beloved
>>8324407>My first tests in 512x512 went bad but I can't tell if that was just a skill issue but my gens in 1024x1024 all look pretty decent...>Only problem being it takes me like 20ish-minutes to make a single pic on 1024x1024.if youre genning in SDXL do one of the pic related resolutions, otherwise in SD1.5 models you can do 512x512 and the like>>8324426Better hope the fad dies down or the global economy recovers somehow last I checked COVID fucked it hard, otherwise work that back, and pull out that wallet.
>>8324419The chest looks really good on your pictures.But alright I'll stay at 1024x1024 for the time being. I think the end result looks excellent when I gen pictures.
>>8324426Don't lose hope yet.
>>8324426That depends on AMD, really.
>>8324365All the comments saying the sketch is better because it has "soul" LMAO
>>8324426enjoy the tariffs
>>8324436I wonder if the sketch is AI generated too
>>8324437yeah thats true, prices should drop a lot once those are in place
>>8324439retardGODs
>>8324435>completely dropped out in the high end market
>>8324440Can't expect everyone to sit through Econ101 before going to vote. They wouldn't even do it for their own good.
>>8324438https://lllyasviel.github.io/pages/paints_undo/Could be, but very unlikely, the current best implementation is low resolution and makes many continuity mistakes
>>8324441How did that even happend? Still remember one of their bosses said "Only rwal men have fabs!" back in the day.
>>8324445I didn't realize he posted a timelapse"finished" sketches you can just prompt on any SD model
>>8324443who cares about the increase in electronic import prices when all the other daily cost goes down. Doesn't really matter though since there's a looming possibility of NK invading SK and China following suite.
>>8324412>failed art studentsmore like attentionwhores, failed at getting 100k followers on twitterthanks to genning, i realized that i must really learn stuff to do things that i like and how to do this
>>83244467900xtx could not compete with the 40907900xt was horribly pricedNot having any practical use cases outside of gamingyou knowAMD things
>>8324422>Holy based. Have you tested it with Prompt S/R?I haven't because I would need to add support for it, will check how to do it.
>>8324314here is your (You), no-gen fag.Sorry if my gens are not up to your exquisite taste, but I prefer more realistic styles (favs are Jun Tsukasa or Takehiko Inoue)And If it makes (You) sleep better: The dataset used to train "high grain" lora was mostly scenery shots.40 shots from Hellboy movies(characters, machinery, creatures), 60 shots from the LOTR movies (mountains, caves, meadows, dwarfs, elves),20 shots from harry potter (castle/library/cave/shop), 30 shots from steven king's IT (monsters, dark scenery). Tags: scenery x142, 1girl x11, 1boy x26, monster x44
you have entered the blue girl thread
>>8324448Why would your daily costs go down when you can't use chinese slave labor for the input resources
>>8324450>you know>AMD thingsThis would not have happened if the Alpha Architecture was still around.
>>8324304love stra8 homu so muchcatbox?
>>8324454>but I prefer more realistic styleshere's the thread full of like-minded individuals >>>/aco/sdg
>>8324416No, what I meant is that they cant fathom that someone that know how to draw will still chose to use ai because its faster and easier, there is always all those retards lying to themselves calling their toddler drawing full of soul or even the one going "damn i loved it but now that I knowi ts ai I hate it !!!", actual brainrot
>>8324455much better, I can almost not see the au_delete
>>8324210Amazingly enough, putting this in the negatives has prevented guys in my prompts from making creepy smiles, so thanks.
>>8324455MORE BLUE GIRL AND WITH PARTED BANGS, HER OFFICIAL HAIR.
>>8324468so many of the people complaining about ai are generally such dogshit, like I am better at them either way and most of my drawing skills has come from fixing ai with my tablet
today it's squeezable butts
>>8324476cute butt where anus?
>>8324210Huh, interesting. Making a note of this.
>>8324452It's probably going to be a pain in the ass because of how the grid is formatted so eh, I would suggest not bothering but if you really want to feel free.
is karras just fucked on vpred noob? any snake oil cfg extension doesn't help
>double navelAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>8324481nah, it's a womb incision so when she is so full of cum it helps vent itlike those cows where you have to pierce their gut to let out the methane
>>8324477In reptiles, the anus is located under the tail.
>>8324468Many may not be artists at all, just echoing the opinions of others in their twitter bubble. We aren't so different here, disqualifying images because "it's pony".
>>8324483interesting, i was not aware of that
>>8324479isn't this just miqomix with worse shading
>>8324486>>>/aco/
Pony was unironically dogshit tho
>>8324477Not the (you) I was looking for but I'll take it. You can pretend it's there, in the dark. Figured if you squeeze her cheeks together you shouldn't be able to see the butthole, but I don't have a girl on hand to check.
>>8324490it still is
>>8324489When's the last time you've been to /aco/? Or even the rest of /h/ outside this general.
>tfw I like PonyArt
>>8324490*at animeWe sacrificed style for prompt comprehension and sex knowledge.
I always shitposted that new samplers were snakeoilThis new kohaku sampler is insanely goodI'm retarded for not trying this sooner
>>8324360I think she wants more.
>>8324498but have you aligned its steps?
>>8324498Could you post some XYs, or explain in specific terms what it does better?
if you like kohaku_lonyu_log you're allergic to fine details
how do i make tiled upscale not bad on new reforge
>>8324501My penis is erect and the steps are aligned
>>8324505endurance training be like
please be patientshe has autism
>Going through ancient catboxes shared here>Remember that one anon who liked to post his OC hereHope you are doing ok, anon. This is your prompt, used on a newer model.
>>8324513Think I saw her recently, in some pixelart lora previews
>>8324502try it bwo, it's was recently added on reforge
>>8324518why is it so blurry (smooth)?
>>8324518I will consider updating comfy once it's on there
align your mind as you align your steps
blue hair seggs
>>8324410hexbox?
>>8324513>kiwi almost writes legible japanese.lmao
>>8324524do not segs the hair
>>8324529can AI even do hairjobs?
>>8324524Very seggsable
>>8324530...like a barber?
>>8324524I love ADO SEX
noo ...........
>>8324534don't worry bwo, someone found a fixhttps://github.com/Koishi-Star/Euler-Smea-Dyn-Sampler/pull/31/commits/b1da64be6b20459f0e88cb6c32c74e8283be45e0
this feels like the based64 days of xl. noob so underwhelming that people resort to shitmixing barely a week into a new epoch.
>>8324537to be fair noob 0.75 and 1.0 are really hard to tard wrangler
>>8324513I didn't exactly go anywhere. I just don't post oc donut much since more often than not it ends up in me getting banned. Also original characters don't really get shit for views on pixiv/wherever so I don't do a super huge amount of her all that often.for the moment she just lives on as my default lora preview prompt and I make sure to do stuff for her on random holidays.(she was shimakaze for halloween https://files.catbox.moe/spbw1o.png )
>>8324537Those days were great
what's your reason you're not using vpred 0.6?
>>8324537Who stuck with base models over eventually going to a shitmix for any of the eras?
>>8324543>vpred 0.6Wazzat?
>>8324543give me a good template image with metadata to start with then ill consider
>>8324539>>83245370.5 eps to vpred conversion onegai... Why they had to fry the te, nyoooo...
>>8324543i did and it was garbage
>>8324543I'm too lazy
ahri
>>8324543I don't really feel like redoing all my artists mixes + new versions are coming out
>>8324543It's weird enough having to use an anime model after so long, not sure I even like these styles anymore. Don't want to deal with color changes as well.
>>8324547/hdg/ funded 0.5 eps conversion when? jordach was able to get 1000$ out of this thread for his fursuit scam, surely we can pool a similar amount of money for an actually good vpred model
>>83245430.77 is better
>>8324544the only time shitmixes ever made sense was 1.5 era since base NAI leak was really not very great. Also that was the timeframe before lora loading stuff got optimized so the more lora's you ran, the longer it took to gen shit - but if you merged everything into a shitmix it didn't have to load lora's so it gen'd faster.Pony shitmixes made no fucking sense since the base model was "good enough" and all using a shitmix would do is dampen the fuck out of style lora's which is counter to the point.same goes for illustrious/noob. Train on one of the base models, use that base model. Using a shitmix is just going to make anything you try and train on top of it worse.Shitmixes are more or less for lowest common denominator shitsloppers. The ones that don't do any of their own training and just download random shit and often also won't use lora's.>>8324543shit's fried.I ignored all noob releases after .75 - there's just really no point with how they fucked the TE. And then they go on and do shit like training noise offset on vpred to cement the decision.
>Add "3d, game screenshot" for funsies>AI accurately recreates poor topologyI am honestly impressed.
>>8324557absolutely. i don't understand how we regressed so far as a thread that most people here see no problem with using shitmixes
>>8324561>1400+ text postsMost of the actual gennners left.
>>8324562nothing wrong with legit AI discussion, we've always been better than /g/ when it comes to that. nobody likes image spam
>>8324560boxu?
Hags. Love.>>8324564Why would you want my shit prompt...?https://files.catbox.moe/btqup7.png
>>8324543nothing has convinced me that any illustrious based models are better than pony to the extent I want to retrain loras
does including the series really make a difference when prompting for chars?
>>8324570It does with insanely popular characters, like Roll from Megaman, since there are several "Roll"s.
>>8324570yes depending on the context / character.
>>8324563harsh
raw /ss/ genhttps://files.catbox.moe/so9aoy.jpg
>>8324570if you mean something like>hakurei reimu, touhouprobably not really but if you mean something like>kaga \(kancolle\)Yeah it's kind of required. It's literally how it's tagged and trained for the character.you're better off adding additional secondary characteristics(clothes, hair type/color, eye color, etc.) to improve character accuracy than just adding their IP to prompt.
>>8324576you don't need \( or \)
>>8324562>Most of the actual gennners left.where did they go?
the final image of the thread approaches, did you align your steps or will you persist in the doomed world
>>8324578pony is the more popular image model and a handful of screeching autists complaining about anyone posting it probably makes them not want to
>>8324581just say civitai gallery bwo
>>8324578>spend every day for months telling every single poster to go to /aco/, /trash/, /d/, /b/, etc.>where did they go bros?????
>>8324574I personally find /g/ to be far worse. It's filled with attention whores, larpers, assorted shitposters and other profligates. I would take you guys over them any day of the week.
>>8324533yes
>>8324585Based
New Thread:>>8324587>>8324587>>8324587
>>8324577anon, the \'s are just separators to make the ()'s read as () and not as a tag emphasis.and yes, you do need them if the actual character tag has the IP listed to disambiguatehttps://files.catbox.moe/wetou4.pngnotice how the ones not tagged correctly drift to a different eye color
>>8321740uh prompt
>>8324569Waiting for a better refinement?>>8324584If you put it like that then it does make sense.
>>8324592( and ) are not part of the IP.
>>8324189which one?
>>8324422box?
>>8324432Oh thank you anon, was catching up on the thread and I finally can save this chart for reference
>>8324233Hairs pretty much anywhere besides the scalp are on a cycle where every so often they fall out and start over
